Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
I personally have used the microHAM SO2R unit and it is the #1 unit out there has features none of the others have. All I use anymore in the shack are microHAM units (2) microKEYER II's, (1) DIGIKEYER, (1) DIGIKEYER II and the SO2R unit. One thing I like the most about them is the fact you can have multi programs running at one time and have use of which ever you need on the fly being it logger or mode all the virtual com ports. 73, Fred/N0AZZ -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of John Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 11:42 PM To: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R controllers. It will be controlling two K3's. I am considering the microHam micro2R and the Top Ten DX Doubler. Each has its advantages: micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK, & SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. DX Doubler: CW & SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the "manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. Any inputs would be greatly appreciated, - 73, John, N0TA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html - No virus found in this message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.1913 / Virus Database: 2425/5034 - Release Date: 05/30/12 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
Neat! You can see an overview presentation on this kit at: http://www.k1xm.org/SO2R/Downloads/SO2R_Box_Presentation.pdf 72/73 & DX, Craig W. Behrens -- NM4T > Date: Wed, 30 May 2012 23:19:35 -0700 > From: j...@audiosystemsgroup.com > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers > > On 5/30/2012 9:42 PM, John wrote: > > Any inputs would be greatly appreciated > > You want the YCCC box. Google to find it. It's a kit, roughly $200. > Takes roughly 6 hours to build, easy soldering, including the interface > cables. Very well thought out. A bunch of NCCC guys have built them and > all love them. > > 73, Jim K9YC > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater
Hello David, If a PSK signal is generated in an early stage of a transmitter (or is fed into an input of a transmitter), then all of the transmitter's stages which follow should be "linear" to keep the signal clean. In the case of the basic type of PSK 31.25 signal consisting of a single tone, whose phase is changed by 180 degrees, the change of phase results in sidebands spaced 31.25 kHz each side of the main signal. If the transmitter's stages which follow are not adequately linear, then IMD products could create "splatter". In the case of solid state linear amplifiers, especially those using a "12 V" DC supply, to prevent poor linearity it is necessary to use a DC supply and interconnecting cables/ connectors which do not allow the supply voltage to "sag" with increasing current draw. I note that you said that there is almost a difference of one volt between 25W and 100W key down. 73, Geoff LX2AO On May 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, David Moes VE3DVY wrote: > Question, What can cause splatter when using PSK-D I had the power > dialed to 25W so I certainly wasn.t running to much power, and just > to be sure that I was actually using PSK -d I had pulled the audio > line in/out from the K3. Am I missing something? __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater
Oooops :-( In my message to David Moes, I said: > phase results in sidebands spaced > 31.25 kHz each side of the main signal. If the transmitter's stages which > follow are not adequately linear, then IMD products could create > "splatter". I meant 31.25 Hz not 31.25 kHz. 73, Geoff LX2AO __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] INTERNET PURCHASING
Folks, This thread has already been closed. 73, Eric List Moderator www.elecraft.com _..._ On May 30, 2012, at 10:33 PM, "Edward R. Cole" wrote: > There are NO = NONE = NADA ham radio equipment dealers in > Alaska. So - ordering equipment is either On-Line or by > Land-Line (telephone), according to one's preference. > > Of course our "Local Dealer" is only 2400 miles away in Seattle! No > problem 12-days RT drive (or $500 air-fare) and only $540 worth of > gasoline later you are supporting the tax-base of Washington (and > communities in Canada) instead of your home town. Oh, better add > hotel and meal costs in there. > > BTW there is no state sales or state income tax in AK. Schools are > financed thru property tax, so buy your home locally and not thru the > internet! HA! Oh, senior's are forgiven property tax up to $250K > valuation. I guess 45-years of taxes raising a family is adequate. > > Regarding dealers: The whole deal of stocking inventory is to get a > "wholesale" price which gives the retailer a mark up (called gross > profit). Some manufacturers subscribe to "Fair-Trade" which means > the price is fixed by the manufacturer so it will not vary from > dealer or direct. I particularly dislike this practise since it is > anti-competitive. (sort of like all gas stations having the same > price on their pumps). > > The buyer "votes" with his dollars! Why should he pay more than need > to? POS outfits offer immediate gratification - at a > price. Certainly one should weigh custom's duty and shipping when > doing competitive pricing. ALL (successful) businesses do! Is this > hard on local businesses? It can be. But this is reality - no > getting around it. Support your local businesses but be smart with > your money, too! > > The new merchandising model is direct-sales via internetbetter > believe it! 20-years ago it was catalog sales. 100-years ago it was > local sales. > > > 73, Ed - KL7UW, WD2XSH/45 > == > BP40IQ 500 KHz - 10-GHz www.kl7uw.com > EME: 50-1.1kw?, 144-1.4kw, 432-QRT, 1296-?, 3400-? > DUBUS Magazine USA Rep dubus...@gmail.com > "Kits made by KL7UW" http://www.kl7uw.com/kits.htm > == > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 Woes: Radio Shuts Off at Power Levels >20
COMMON MODE RF can cause loss of regulation (low voltage, high voltage, supply shutdowns) of Switch-Mode power supplies, Such as the SMPS models you have listed, that you are using. 1. TEST with a 50 ohm resistive dummy load 2. Correct your Antenna System. You mistakenly believe that low SWR means antenna system is OK. 3. Eliminate that Common Mode problem from this unbalanced antenna system. W9gb __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KX3] Transmit Gain Calibration
I'm going through the set-up for my KX3 kit (212) and everything seems great except for a small(I hope) problem with the transmit gain calibration. Using the automatic setup with the KX3 utility, it goes through 160-10 meter bands with no problem but fails the 4 watt test at 52mHz due to high current. I tried the manual calibration, and it works with no problem at 6 watts, but again fails at 4 watts with a high current message. Any help greatly appreciated! Bernie W1AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
The DX Doubler is too simple - you can't hear hand sending when doing true SO2R without throwing a switch before and after using the paddle. The MK2R+ is too complex - hundreds of settings to learn and try to nail down. Yes, Joe's support is excellent but you need lots of it. The micro2R appears to be simpler but still uses the @*&%! microHam uRouter software. I love the YCCC SO2R Box Plus. It's just right, does everything I need and not much else. Only problem is, it's a club project and not available off the shelf. But if you can get in on one of the group buys, it's the best SO2R controller I've used or heard of. See my review at https://sites.google.com/site/rtavan/yccc-so2r-box-product-review . /Rick On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM, John wrote: > I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R controllers. It > will be controlling two K3's. I am considering the microHam micro2R and > the Top Ten DX Doubler. Each has its advantages: > >micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK, & SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears >to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. > >DX Doubler: CW & SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the >"manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer >connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. > > Any inputs would be greatly appreciated, > - 73, John, N0TA > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Rick Tavan N6XI Truckee, CA __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 / P3 Bug?
Hi David, On Wed, 2012-05-30 at 21:14 -0700, David McClain wrote: > Hi, > > A few weeks ago I upgraded my P3 and K3 to firmware P3 MCU: 1.16 and > K3 MCU: 4.48. Since then, when I try to observe my Rb oscillator's 5th > harmonic at 50 MHz, the P3 flatlines (no baseline noise at all, just a > flat line), and when I try to adjust the Span of the P3 display it > shows "nan" next to the span readout and refuses to adjust. "nan" means "not a number." It sounds like somehow the span value got set to an illegal floating-point number. Try doing a "Parameter Initialization" as described in the manual. (Basically hold the LABELS key and tap the POWER key.) Be aware that a param init resets all your function keys and other settings. > Is this a known bug? No I've never heard of that one before. Congratulations on being the first. :=) Alan > Dr. David McClain > d...@refined-audiometrics.com > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
I'd like to see a K3 FW feature change. I'll back off if anyone believes it's a bad idea. CURRENT: Turning on the KPA500 scrolls a message in VFO B that I've just turned the KPA500 on. Actually, I knew that and didn't need the message. Mine is set to come up in STBY [also when I change bands]. When I go to OPER, another message scrolls in VFO B telling me that I just did that. I also knew that and didn't need the message. CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays at low power when I go to STBY. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [KX3] Logging/rig control software and the KX3
I have been told by the proverbial "trusted source" that KX3 owners will be pleased with the KX3 rig support in the 6.x versions of Ham Radio Deluxe, so I am passing that along for what it´s worth. I have no further information than that, nor can I offer more specifics (my proverbial "trusted source" didn't trust me with them). If you are a fan of HRD and considering a KX3 purchase I thought that comment might be of interest. My point is just how quickly we see some of what I would call "peripheral vendors" embracing even the newest announced Elecraft products and responding quickly to them. That speaks loads for the Elecraft reputation in the market. And, that has not always been the case when "the other guys" released new transceiver models. I've always found it interesting to observe how our hobby's peripheral accessory vendors "place their bets". Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with HRD or any other software company. And, I don´t even own a KX3 :o( YET! Terry, WØFM K3 #474 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
I'm a fairly new Ham and want a nice portable rig. I've read all the threads I can find on the K2 vs. KX3 and I'm pretty sure I'm going to get a KX3 but before I finalize my order I thought I'd see if you guys think a K2 would be a smarter choice. I would buy a used K2 or build a new KX3. I have little to no time to build a K2. I want a portable rig to take camping and occasionally to the beach or on trips. I'd say I'll have a deep cycle battery available if I want to lug it along for camping, but I'd rather use an internal battery. I've been using a ZS6BKW or a YO-YO inverted V configuration for an antenna. Mostly working 20, 40, 80 meters. I do a mix of 50/50 CW SSB. I've been taking my Ten-Tec Scout or Eagle so far. Any input would be much appreciated. 73 Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
*Fred, Essentially I agree but it might be better if the K3 FW was switchable for those who wish to have the confirmation message? With regards to the anomalies you mention, I thought I was seeing things but you just confirmed that it really does happen. Put me on the 'Agree' list but with the switchable option included. 73's Gary * On 1 June 2012 05:22, FredJensen wrote: > I'd like to see a K3 FW feature change. I'll back off if anyone > believes it's a bad idea. > > CURRENT: Turning on the KPA500 scrolls a message in VFO B that I've > just turned the KPA500 on. Actually, I knew that and didn't need the > message. Mine is set to come up in STBY [also when I change bands]. > When I go to OPER, another message scrolls in VFO B telling me that I > just did that. I also knew that and didn't need the message. > > CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power > will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power > levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, > after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE > [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which > faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays > at low power when I go to STBY. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 > - www.cqp.org > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
Since Rick chose to make one of his typical swipes at the microHAM hardware and software, I guess I need to weigh in on this topic - something I have refrained from doing so far. > The MK2R+ is too complex - hundreds of settings to learn and try to > nail down. MK2R+ is without question the most flexible and powerful SO2R box available but with flexibility comes complexity. *HOWEVER*. like any other advanced amateur radio product - including the K3, P3 and KPA-500 - if you read the manual and use the product as it was designed to be used you will have no problems. If on the other hand, you decide that you know better than the designers how the device *should* work and fail to read the manual, or try to use it as you think it should work, or the way you *wish* it would work, or the way your *think* another product used to work, you will get in trouble. MK2R+ is still the overwhelming choice of leading contesters AROUND THE WORLD. > The micro2R appears to be simpler but still uses the @*&%! microHam > uRouter software. micro2R is much more basic but it does provide features like split audio (stereo), the ability to hear your own manual sending, the ability to force receive focus on the non-transmitting radio when sending canned messages, etc. microHAM's Router driver/control software is an integral part of the system and makes available many features *not possible* with other products (including logger driven antenna selection, etc.). Again, when one is too stubborn (stupid) to read the manual and use the products as designed, and worse yet gives others incorrect information about the operation (just like Icom and Flex zelots who trash Elecraft), you get into trouble. As to the YCCC box ... it's a nice toy and shares many concepts with the microHAM products which preceeded it by more than five years. However, with the YCCC box you're dependent on a small group of volunteers for support and software. What happens when the key people lose interest, have personal crises, or simple get tired of the project - where do you go for support and software fixes? Are you willing/comfortable to build a kit on the hope that one or two key persons will be willing to provide free software support for life? 73, ... Joe Subich, W4TV microHAM America, LLC. http://www.microHAM-USA.com http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM On 5/31/2012 1:10 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: > The DX Doubler is too simple - you can't hear hand sending when doing true > SO2R without throwing a switch before and after using the paddle. The MK2R+ > is too complex - hundreds of settings to learn and try to nail down. Yes, > Joe's support is excellent but you need lots of it. The micro2R appears to > be simpler but still uses the @*&%! microHam uRouter software. I love the > YCCC SO2R Box Plus. It's just right, does everything I need and not much > else. Only problem is, it's a club project and not available off the shelf. > But if you can get in on one of the group buys, it's the best SO2R > controller I've used or heard of. See my review at > https://sites.google.com/site/rtavan/yccc-so2r-box-product-review . > > /Rick > > On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM, John wrote: > >> I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R controllers. It >> will be controlling two K3's. I am considering the microHam micro2R and >> the Top Ten DX Doubler. Each has its advantages: >> >> micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK,& SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears >> to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. >> >> DX Doubler: CW& SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the >> "manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer >> connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. >> >> Any inputs would be greatly appreciated, >>- 73, John, N0TA >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > -- __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
I really like that idea. I never quite trust the lower power setting of the K3 when the amplifier is put on-line and always manually check it to be sure it is where I hope it is. It would be *much* better for the K3 to display the new power setting instead of those unnecessary 'KPA ... ' messages just as Fred suggested. Don K7FJ snip CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays at low power when I go to STBY. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Logging/rig control software and the KX3
Speaking of HRD, before I submit yet another bug report; do the FL1, FL2 etc. buttons in the radio pane work for anyone? I'm using HRD version 5.22.0.02, if it works for anyone in an earlier version, I'd like to know as well. 73 de Sebastian, W4AS On May 31, 2012, at 3:48 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > I have been told by the proverbial "trusted source" that KX3 owners will be > pleased with the KX3 rig support in the 6.x versions of Ham Radio Deluxe, so > I am passing that along for what it´s worth. I have no further information > than that, nor can I offer more specifics (my proverbial "trusted source" > didn't trust me with them). If you are a fan of HRD and considering a KX3 > purchase I thought that comment might be of interest. > > My point is just how quickly we see some of what I would call "peripheral > vendors" embracing even the newest announced Elecraft products and responding > quickly to them. That speaks loads for the Elecraft reputation in the > market. And, that has not always been the case when "the other guys" > released new transceiver models. > > I've always found it interesting to observe how our hobby's peripheral > accessory vendors "place their bets". > > Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with HRD or any other software company. And, > I don´t even own a KX3 :o( YET! > > > Terry, WØFM __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
I built a K2 more than 12 years ago, and over time added most of the options and had a great radio. Due to things that happened a year ago, I found myself in your situation, another K2 or order a KX3 when it was released. I ordered a KX3 kit a few hours after Elecraft started taking orders. Like many others, I am waiting for my KX3 to be shipped I feel that the KX3 does much more than even a fully loaded 10 watt K2 in a box that is about 1/4 the size of a K2. Making it much more suitable for portable use or in a mobile installation. Joel -- N1JEO On 5/31/12, ae7...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm a fairly new Ham and want a nice portable rig. > I've read all the threads I can find on the K2 vs. KX3 and I'm pretty sure > I'm > going to get a KX3 but before I finalize my order I thought I'd see if you > guys > think a K2 would be a smarter choice. I would buy a used K2 or build a new > KX3. > I have little to no time to build a K2. > > I want a portable rig to take camping and occasionally to the beach or on > trips. > I'd say I'll have a deep cycle battery available if I want to lug it along > for camping, > but I'd rather use an internal battery. > > I've been using a ZS6BKW or a YO-YO inverted V configuration for an > antenna. > Mostly working 20, 40, 80 meters. > I do a mix of 50/50 CW SSB. I've been taking my Ten-Tec Scout or Eagle so > far. > > Any input would be much appreciated. > > 73 > Stan AE7UT > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
Personally, I'd go with a K2 unless 6m is important to you, but I'm biased ... I love my K2 for field events. With a KX1, K3/KPA500/P3, and a KAT500 on order, I'm going to have all the E-radios I'm likely to need or want. KX3 is really attractive and I can understand all the buzz about it, I'm just partial to my K2. I built it, that's a big part of it for me, mine is #4398. The K2 will be cheaper than a KX3, I think the KX3 may be lighter. I get plenty of operating time [CW] from an A123 4S1P LiFePO4 battery that I can charge from my truck. But, it's just about impossible to go wrong with anything Elecraft. Regardless of which you choose, one of Rose's really cool travel cases is well worth the money. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org On 5/31/2012 7:52 PM, ae7...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm a fairly new Ham and want a nice portable rig. > I've read all the threads I can find on the K2 vs. KX3 and I'm pretty sure > I'm > going to get a KX3 but before I finalize my order I thought I'd see if you > guys > think a K2 would be a smarter choice. I would buy a used K2 or build a new > KX3. > I have little to no time to build a K2. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
Hi Stan, The K2 has an optional internal 100-W amplifier and is of course a full kit. But if 12 W is enough power for your planned usage, and you wouldn't be building the K2 anyway, I'd suggest going with the KX3. The KX3 has several advantages: 160-6 meter/all-mode coverage, much more comprehensive display, data-mode and CW text decode built-in, advanced DSP and SDR features, and a high-performance attached keyer paddle. And of course you could put several of them inside a K2 :) I think of the KX3 as the ultimate portable rig, but of course I'm biased. I'm sure you'll get a few other opinions. 73, Wayne N6KR On May 31, 2012, at 12:52 PM, ae7...@gmail.com wrote: > I'm a fairly new Ham and want a nice portable rig. > I've read all the threads I can find on the K2 vs. KX3 and I'm > pretty sure > I'm > going to get a KX3 but before I finalize my order I thought I'd see > if you > guys > think a K2 would be a smarter choice. I would buy a used K2 or > build a new > KX3. > I have little to no time to build a K2. > > I want a portable rig to take camping and occasionally to the beach > or on > trips. > I'd say I'll have a deep cycle battery available if I want to lug it > along > for camping, > but I'd rather use an internal battery. > > I've been using a ZS6BKW or a YO-YO inverted V configuration for an > antenna. > Mostly working 20, 40, 80 meters. > I do a mix of 50/50 CW SSB. I've been taking my Ten-Tec Scout or > Eagle so > far. > > Any input would be much appreciated. > > 73 > Stan AE7UT > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KBX30/80 Module
I have finished installing the KBX3080 module along with the power module. Things appear to be going well, but I did note that when I took a reading with my VTVM and RF probe on the antenna output, my readings on 80M were quite a bit higher than on the other frequencies. 80M 6.6 volts 40M 5.2 volts 30M 5.2 volts 20M 5 volts. Is the normally what is expected? Thanks. -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/KBX30-80-Module-tp7556858.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
Fred/Gary, When you experience these power anomalies, do you see the KPA operate/bypass messages on the K3 or not? I realise that it's one of those cases where you don't know that you need to pay attention until it's too late . but then the same could be said for your proposed solution 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > *Fred, > > Essentially I agree but it might be better if the K3 FW was switchable for > those who wish to have the confirmation message? > > With regards to the anomalies you mention, I thought I was seeing things > but you just confirmed that it really does happen. > > Put me on the 'Agree' list but with the switchable option included. > > 73's > Gary > * > On 1 June 2012 05:22, FredJensen wrote: > >> I'd like to see a K3 FW feature change. I'll back off if anyone >> believes it's a bad idea. >> >> CURRENT: Turning on the KPA500 scrolls a message in VFO B that I've >> just turned the KPA500 on. Actually, I knew that and didn't need the >> message. Mine is set to come up in STBY [also when I change bands]. >> When I go to OPER, another message scrolls in VFO B telling me that I >> just did that. I also knew that and didn't need the message. >> >> CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power >> will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power >> levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, >> after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE >> [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which >> faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays >> at low power when I go to STBY. >> >> 73, >> >> Fred K6DGW >> - Northern California Contest Club >> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 >> - www.cqp.org >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html >> > > > > -- > Gary > VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile > Elecraft Equipment > K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? > Living the dream!!! > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
The DX Doubler met my SO2R needs for fifteen years until last year when I migrated to computers that don't have native LPT (or, Serial) ports. That was really the only impetus to look into other SO2R controllers. I considered the YCCC SO2R box, the microHAM MKR2 and the newly released microHAM u2R. The u2R was the clear choice for me: 1. The YCCC SO2R box has all the disadvantages that Joe has outlined plus it requires an external level translator circuit for FSK.That detracts from the advantage of an integrated box and lowered my confidence in the design choices made in this unit. 2. The MK2R had way more features than I needed or wanted, so I was less motivated to come up the learning curve on its necessary complexity. The opinions you have received from all of us are heavily biased by how well a given SO2R product meets our individual SO2R needs. For example, N6XI does SO2R in a (popular) way that makes the DX Doubler inadequate for monitoring his sent CW. I always listen to both receivers (sometimes more than two!), so this was never a limitation for me with the DX Doubler. The notion of complexity is relative to what your needs/wants are. The MK2R is complex for me primarily because it contains a lot of flexibility and features that I don't use. For those who want most of that capability, the learning curve is satisfactory. They are delighted to have the MK2R's integration of all those features. Just like the unanswerable question, "Which logging software is best?", the SO2R controller that is "best" for each of us will vary based on our personal SO2R needs. The good news is that there is a spectrum of alternatives and each of them is great ... for a specific focus of user needs. Ed - W0YK John , N0TA, wrote: > I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R > controllers. It will be controlling two K3's. I am > considering the microHam micro2R and the Top Ten DX Doubler. > Each has its advantages: > > micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK, & SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears > to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. > > DX Doubler: CW & SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the > "manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer > connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. > > Any inputs would be greatly appreciated, __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
U ... if I understand your question, "yes." I've never seen a time that the OPERATE/STANDBY messages did not appear when I switch between OPER and STBY, regardless of whether I go to standby with the button or by changing bands. If it's in STBY and I change bands again, I get no message [or course]. The most prevalent "anomaly" is staying at 5W after using the K3 TUNE function. It's immediately apparent because I only get about 50W out of the KPA500 when I put it in OPER, and when I adjust the PWR setting, it is at 5W. It doesn't happen all the time. The second most prevalent is when I put the KPA500 in STBY and then find that the K3 power is still at 26W. Putting the KPA500 in OPER and having the K3 power stay at 100W has only happened once. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org "Anomaly" is a term used by NASA to describe anything from a burned out panel lamp to the rocket ending up pointy-end down in the desert outside of Tucson. On 5/31/2012 9:21 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > Fred/Gary, > > When you experience these power anomalies, do you see the KPA > operate/bypass messages on the K3 or not? I realise that it's one of > those cases where you don't know that you need to pay attention until > it's too late . but then the same could be said for your proposed > solution > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
*Iain, In my case, I did not notice any alert. I placed the kpa-500 in STBY and tuned the antenna first with the K3 and then when I went to OPER to check the tune, the kpa-500 worked as it should. When I transmitted the K3 had remained at 5W..it has done this several times of late. The second thing I have noticed is that sometimes and I cannot be certain why or what I have done, is that after a tune on the K3 I go to straight to OPER and keying the K3 results in a fault due to overdriving. Again it is not consistent and I am unable to repeat it on a regular basis. Having said this, it is not a 'common' occurrence here, just appears to be a random event. I have left myself a little note to make a list of what I did next time this happens with either anomalie. 73's Gary * On 1 June 2012 07:21, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > Fred/Gary, > > When you experience these power anomalies, do you see the KPA > operate/bypass messages on the K3 or not? I realise that it's one of > those cases where you don't know that you need to pay attention until > it's too late . but then the same could be said for your proposed > solution > > 73, > >~iain / N6ML > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 1:05 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > > *Fred, > > > > Essentially I agree but it might be better if the K3 FW was switchable > for > > those who wish to have the confirmation message? > > > > With regards to the anomalies you mention, I thought I was seeing things > > but you just confirmed that it really does happen. > > > > Put me on the 'Agree' list but with the switchable option included. > > > > 73's > > Gary > > * > > On 1 June 2012 05:22, FredJensen wrote: > > > >> I'd like to see a K3 FW feature change. I'll back off if anyone > >> believes it's a bad idea. > >> > >> CURRENT: Turning on the KPA500 scrolls a message in VFO B that I've > >> just turned the KPA500 on. Actually, I knew that and didn't need the > >> message. Mine is set to come up in STBY [also when I change bands]. > >> When I go to OPER, another message scrolls in VFO B telling me that I > >> just did that. I also knew that and didn't need the message. > >> > >> CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power > >> will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power > >> levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, > >> after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE > >> [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which > >> faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays > >> at low power when I go to STBY. > >> > >> 73, > >> > >> Fred K6DGW > >> - Northern California Contest Club > >> - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 > >> - www.cqp.org > >> __ > >> Elecraft mailing list > >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >> > >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Gary > > VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile > > Elecraft Equipment > > K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? > > Living the dream!!! > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
The change gets my vote. Good idea. 73 to all Geoff G3UCK -Original Message- From: FredJensen Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 8:22 PM CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
Interesting. I asked because failure of the message being displayed might suggest a flaky AUXBUS connection, where failure of the correct action being taken (following the message being displayed) suggests a K3 firmware bug. 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, FredJensen wrote: > U ... if I understand your question, "yes." I've never seen a time > that the OPERATE/STANDBY messages did not appear when I switch between > OPER and STBY, regardless of whether I go to standby with the button or > by changing bands. If it's in STBY and I change bands again, I get no > message [or course]. > The most prevalent "anomaly" is staying at 5W after using the K3 TUNE > function. It's immediately apparent because I only get about 50W out of > the KPA500 when I put it in OPER, and when I adjust the PWR setting, it > is at 5W. It doesn't happen all the time. The second most prevalent is > when I put the KPA500 in STBY and then find that the K3 power is still > at 26W. Putting the KPA500 in OPER and having the K3 power stay at 100W > has only happened once. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 > - www.cqp.org > > "Anomaly" is a term used by NASA to describe anything from a burned out > panel lamp to the rocket ending up pointy-end down in the desert outside > of Tucson. > > On 5/31/2012 9:21 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: >> Fred/Gary, >> >> When you experience these power anomalies, do you see the KPA >> operate/bypass messages on the K3 or not? I realise that it's one of >> those cases where you don't know that you need to pay attention until >> it's too late . but then the same could be said for your proposed >> solution >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] KPA500 anomaly?
I had the entire K-Line on and needed to reload the P3 software. I shut down the K3 and reloaded the P3 software. It takes a while. During the reload the fans came on on the KPA500 and then cycled off several times. Apparently there was some interaction between the K3 powered off and the KPA500. Not a problem as the fix is to turn off the KPA500 too. I just thought it was odd. :) Bill Hammond wham...@aol.com Bill Hammond-AK5X a...@mac.com a...@sbcglobal.net K3 #69 P3 #817 KPA500 # 149 K2/100 #4637 K1 #2033 KX1 #1023 KX3-K someday December 28 order. T1 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
If we are voting, then I vote to leave it as is. I do not have a problem with the wrong power selection. I turn on the K3 before turning on the KPA500 & turn off the KPA500 last during power down. I do like verifying the KPA500 status from the K3. I have not used the K3 tune function after installing the KPA500. If there is a FW issue when going to/from Tune mode, then document the issue as completely as possible with Elecraft service. They have fixed such issues in the past; usually very quickly. George AI4VZ -- From: "Geoffrey Downs" > The change gets my vote. Good idea. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 bandwidth anomaly
Hello! Over the last week or two I have noticed a strange phenomenon when I open up the bandwidth and shift the passband up to 1.5 so I have a nice flat passband for JT65A operation. Suddenly the passband will become narrow again! But as soon as I turn the dials WIDTH dial slightly, it pops back to the proper position and stays there. I not sure what is going on and have not properly analyzed the sequence that causes it yet, but thought I would raise the flag and ask if anyone else has noticed this. I am using the most current firmware, and I never have seen this in the previous years of operation VY 73, Lance -- Lance Collister, W7GJ (ex WA3GPL, WA1JXN, WA1JXN/C6A, ZF2OC/ZF8, E51SIX, 3D2LR, 5W0GJ) P.O. Box 73 Frenchtown, MT 59834-0073 USA TEL: (406) 626-5728 QTH: DN27ub URL: http://www.bigskyspaces.com/w7gj Windows Messenger: w...@hotmail.com Skype: lanceW7GJ 2m DXCC #11/6m DXCC #815 Interested in 6m EME? Ask me about subscribing to the Magic Band EME email group, or just fill in the request box at the bottom of my web page (above)! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
*I agree. I will try and stay focused next time I see this happen. Like Fred stated, it does not happen often, but enough to cause you to think just before you slap your foreheadDOH! Gary * On 1 June 2012 08:05, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > Interesting. I asked because failure of the message being displayed > might suggest a flaky AUXBUS connection, where failure of the correct > action being taken (following the message being displayed) suggests a > K3 firmware bug. > > 73, > >~iain / N6ML > > > On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 2:40 PM, FredJensen wrote: > > U ... if I understand your question, "yes." I've never seen a time > > that the OPERATE/STANDBY messages did not appear when I switch between > > OPER and STBY, regardless of whether I go to standby with the button or > > by changing bands. If it's in STBY and I change bands again, I get no > > message [or course]. > > > The most prevalent "anomaly" is staying at 5W after using the K3 TUNE > > function. It's immediately apparent because I only get about 50W out of > > the KPA500 when I put it in OPER, and when I adjust the PWR setting, it > > is at 5W. It doesn't happen all the time. The second most prevalent is > > when I put the KPA500 in STBY and then find that the K3 power is still > > at 26W. Putting the KPA500 in OPER and having the K3 power stay at 100W > > has only happened once. > > > > 73, > > > > Fred K6DGW > > - Northern California Contest Club > > - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 > > - www.cqp.org > > > > "Anomaly" is a term used by NASA to describe anything from a burned out > > panel lamp to the rocket ending up pointy-end down in the desert outside > > of Tucson. > > > > On 5/31/2012 9:21 PM, iain macdonnell - N6ML wrote: > >> Fred/Gary, > >> > >> When you experience these power anomalies, do you see the KPA > >> operate/bypass messages on the K3 or not? I realise that it's one of > >> those cases where you don't know that you need to pay attention until > >> it's too late . but then the same could be said for your proposed > >> solution > >> > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] KBX30/80 Module
Is that into a 50 ohm dummy load (not an antenna, even if "resonant")? What does the KX1's power meter indicate? Ron AC7AC -Original Message- I have finished installing the KBX3080 module along with the power module. Things appear to be going well, but I did note that when I took a reading with my VTVM and RF probe on the antenna output, my readings on 80M were quite a bit higher than on the other frequencies. 80M 6.6 volts 40M 5.2 volts 30M 5.2 volts 20M 5 volts. Is the normally what is expected? Thanks. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
*The ability to be able to control what is displayed is one of the great features of the K3. This 'feature' for want of a better word would allow each operator to 'see' and 'confirm' what is happening if it was 'user selectable'. Before those who bemoan too much menu activity, please remember this would be a rarely used menu item that could only be accessed within the 'Config' menu for example. The one thing I think I can recall is that i do not remember seeing this issue with the Tune function prior to FW 4.51. I am not at all certain of this but I think this has only been a very recent occurrence? regards, Gary * On 1 June 2012 08:29, G Danner wrote: > If we are voting, then I vote to leave it as is. > > I do not have a problem with the wrong power selection. I turn on the K3 > before turning on the KPA500 & turn off the KPA500 last during power down. > I do like verifying the KPA500 status from the K3. > > I have not used the K3 tune function after installing the KPA500. > If there is a FW issue when going to/from Tune mode, then document the > issue > as completely as possible with Elecraft service. They have fixed such > issues > in the past; usually very quickly. > > George > AI4VZ > > -- > From: "Geoffrey Downs" > > > The change gets my vote. Good idea. > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 on 6 meters
Just got the P3 assembled from Dayton purchase. Hoped it might help during VHF contest. I still have to figure out what is what, but the first observation was on 50 MHz band as I tuned the K3 higher in freq the P3 seemed to indicate I was tuning lower, the other direction. I checked several other HF bands and they seem to indicate the correct direction I was tuning, for both USB, LSB and CW, Is this normal for 50 MHz band set up with the K3 / P3 ? Pete W4WWQ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
There is something about the intuitive controls and Elegant simplicity of the K2 that I have gotten accustomed to - plus the fact that it I built it from scratch. I will always have a K2 regardless. The K2/100 is the icing on the cake. Just turn the crank and have 100 watts is nice. Between a k2/100 and a KX3 - get a K2 ESP as a new ham. Then get a KX3. Ariel NY4G Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 4:59 PM, "FredJensen" wrote: > Personally, I'd go with a K2 unless 6m is important to you, but I'm > biased ... I love my K2 for field events. With a KX1, K3/KPA500/P3, and > a KAT500 on order, I'm going to have all the E-radios I'm likely to need > or want. KX3 is really attractive and I can understand all the buzz > about it, I'm just partial to my K2. I built it, that's a big part of > it for me, mine is #4398. The K2 will be cheaper than a KX3, I think > the KX3 may be lighter. I get plenty of operating time [CW] from an > A123 4S1P LiFePO4 battery that I can charge from my truck. But, it's > just about impossible to go wrong with anything Elecraft. Regardless of > which you choose, one of Rose's really cool travel cases is well worth > the money. > > 73, > > Fred K6DGW > - Northern California Contest Club > - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 > - www.cqp.org > > On 5/31/2012 7:52 PM, ae7...@gmail.com wrote: >> I'm a fairly new Ham and want a nice portable rig. >> I've read all the threads I can find on the K2 vs. KX3 and I'm pretty sure >> I'm >> going to get a KX3 but before I finalize my order I thought I'd see if you >> guys >> think a K2 would be a smarter choice. I would buy a used K2 or build a new >> KX3. >> I have little to no time to build a K2. >> > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 on 6 meters
The K3 IF is inverted on 6m. I'm sure the P3 is supposed to handle that (I don't have one), but it would have to know what frequency the K3 is on. Do you have the serial connection place between the K3 and P3? Is the P3 displaying the correct dial-frequency from the K3? 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Pete Lascell wrote: > Just got the P3 assembled from Dayton purchase. Hoped it might help during > VHF contest. I still have to figure out what is what, but the first > observation was on 50 MHz band as I tuned the K3 higher in freq the P3 > seemed to indicate I was tuning lower, the other direction. > > I checked several other HF bands and they seem to indicate the correct > direction I was tuning, for both USB, LSB and CW, > > Is this normal for 50 MHz band set up with the K3 / P3 ? > > Pete W4WWQ > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
Just realized that my posted response addressed the other responses more than John's original query, so here is more direct input. The u2R is a superset of the DX Doubler feature set and more expensive. It is an individual decision as to whether those additional features are worth the higher price for one's needs/wants: 1. The u2R also has a manual mode, without computer connection, once it is configured with the Router on the computer. The manual features are less than the computer-connected features, but still everything available with the DX Doubler. 2. The u2R has both USB and LPT connectivity. The DX Doubler requires a complete LPT port, i.e., a USB-LPT adapter only supports printers, not the signal(s) needed by the DX Doubler. 3. The u2R receive audio switching is user-configurable to virtually any alternative. The DX Doubler has only 2-3 choices, but that may be all you want. 4. The u2R has transmit audio level controls for each radio, FSK keying for each radio, DVK, WinKey and a PS/2 jack for a numeric pad or keyboard. 5. The u2R has isolated USB, LPT and soundcard ports, although the latter are not needed with the K3's transformer-coupled LINE IN/OUT ports. 6. microHAM does not produce cables for the u2R, but I made mine up easily with parts from Mouser (DB9 connectors, DB9 hoods, and nice molded connector cables with phone or RCA Phono plugs on one end and tinned pigtails on the other end). 7. The u2R is expandable to MK2R capability by adding 2 microKEYERs in the future. In fact, most (all?) of the microHAM products can be integrated together all using a single installation of the Router software, with a tab for each box. The documentation shows the detailed interconnection of all the reasonable combinations of microHAM products. 8. Both TopTen and microHAM have excellent support that has been demonstrated for many years now. Ed - W0YK John, N0TA, wrote: > I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R > controllers. It will be controlling two K3's. I am > considering the microHam micro2R and the Top Ten DX Doubler. > Each has its advantages: > > micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK, & SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears > to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. > > DX Doubler: CW & SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the > "manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer > connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 - For Sale - complete K-Line in Australia
Due to a loss of interest in Amateur Radio I have the following items for sale. Elecraft K3 Transceiver #4257 + Elecraft P3 Pan Adaptor #1629 + Elecraft KPA500 Amplifier #161 + Yamaha CM500 Headset + Footswitch. All Elecraft units have the latest firmware installed and are all to the latest hardware spec. The Transceiver is in perfect condition, has all manuals for all options and accessories and is fitted with the following options: KAT3 - INTERNAL ANTENNA TUNER KXV3A - TRANSVERTER INTERFACE K144XV - 2 METRE INTERNAL TRANSVERTER K144RFLK - REFERENCE LOCK BOARD FOR 2M TRANSVERTER KTCX03 - 1 - 0.5ppm TCXO KDVR3 - DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER KBF3 - GENERAL COVERAGE RECEIVE BANDPASS MODULE PR6 - 6M PRE-AMP K3SSKT - STAINLESS STEEL SCREW KIT MH2 - HAND MICROPHONE And the following filters are fitted: KFL3A-1.8K - 8 POLE 1.8KHz 8 POLE FILTER KFL3A-2.8K - 8 POLE 2.8KHz 8 POLE FILTER KFL3A-6K - 8 POLE 6.0KHz 8 POLE FILTER KFL3B-FM - 8 POLE 13.0KHz FM 8 POLE FILTER The P3 Pan Adaptor serial #1629 is in perfect conditon and is complete with all cables and manuals The KPA500 Amplifier serial #161 is in perfect condition, is complete with all manuals. The radio is 12 months old, the P3 is 6 months old and the Amplifier is 5 months old. The landed new price in Australia for everything above is approximately $9500.00 for all items, I am asking only $8000.00 for the complete package! (Sorry, I won't separate) Please contact me (Jeff) via email off list or you can ring me on +61-740616760. - Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA Innisfail, QLD, Australia. Elecraft K3 #4257 + P3 #1629 + KPA500 #161 + PR6 + K144XV = OMFG! -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-For-Sale-complete-K-Line-in-Australia-tp7556876.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
"The most prevalent "anomaly" is staying at 5W after using the K3 TUNE function. It's immediately apparent because I only get about 50W out of the KPA500 when I put it in OPER, and when I adjust the PWR setting, it is at 5W. It doesn't happen all the time. The second most prevalent is when I put the KPA500 in STBY and then find that the K3 power is still at 26W. Putting the KPA500 in OPER and having the K3 power stay at 100W has only happened once.:" I've never seen any of these problems - at least not since my early field testing. I use the TUNE feature of the K3 all the time as I have a remote autotuner (MFJ-998RT). Then I put the KPA on line. The K3 power always adjusts correctly depending on the KPA500 status. I think someone else suggested a flaky AUXBUS connection. That might be something to look at. Phil - AD5X __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 on 6 meters
I was in a hurry to see it play. No the serial cable isn't connected. I will read the book :-( Pete W4WWQ - Original Message - From: "iain macdonnell - N6ML" To: "Pete Lascell" Cc: Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 7:03 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P3 on 6 meters The K3 IF is inverted on 6m. I'm sure the P3 is supposed to handle that (I don't have one), but it would have to know what frequency the K3 is on. Do you have the serial connection place between the K3 and P3? Is the P3 displaying the correct dial-frequency from the K3? 73, ~iain / N6ML On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 4:05 PM, Pete Lascell wrote: > Just got the P3 assembled from Dayton purchase. Hoped it might help during > VHF contest. I still have to figure out what is what, but the first > observation was on 50 MHz band as I tuned the K3 higher in freq the P3 > seemed to indicate I was tuning lower, the other direction. > > I checked several other HF bands and they seem to indicate the correct > direction I was tuning, for both USB, LSB and CW, > > Is this normal for 50 MHz band set up with the K3 / P3 ? > > Pete W4WWQ > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
Thanks for all the input so far. I guess part of my partiality to KX3 is that I WOULD build it and that would make it a bit more of a "personal" rig for me. If that makes sense. Stan AE7UT -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850p7556880.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - For Sale - complete K-Line in Australia
Sorry to hear about the loss of interest. Best wishes and we hope we hear you on the bands again in the future. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 5:12 PM, Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA wrote: > Due to a loss of interest in Amateur Radio I have the following items for > sale. > > Elecraft K3 Transceiver #4257 + Elecraft P3 Pan Adaptor #1629 + Elecraft > KPA500 Amplifier #161 + Yamaha CM500 Headset + Footswitch. > > All Elecraft units have the latest firmware installed and are all to the > latest hardware spec. > > The Transceiver is in perfect condition, has all manuals for all options and > accessories and is fitted with the following options: > KAT3 - INTERNAL ANTENNA TUNER > KXV3A - TRANSVERTER INTERFACE > K144XV - 2 METRE INTERNAL TRANSVERTER > K144RFLK - REFERENCE LOCK BOARD FOR 2M TRANSVERTER > KTCX03 - 1 - 0.5ppm TCXO > KDVR3 - DIGITAL VOICE RECORDER > KBF3 - GENERAL COVERAGE RECEIVE BANDPASS MODULE > PR6 - 6M PRE-AMP > K3SSKT - STAINLESS STEEL SCREW KIT > MH2 - HAND MICROPHONE > And the following filters are fitted: > KFL3A-1.8K - 8 POLE 1.8KHz 8 POLE FILTER > KFL3A-2.8K - 8 POLE 2.8KHz 8 POLE FILTER > KFL3A-6K - 8 POLE 6.0KHz 8 POLE FILTER > KFL3B-FM - 8 POLE 13.0KHz FM 8 POLE FILTER > > The P3 Pan Adaptor serial #1629 is in perfect conditon and is complete with > all cables and manuals > > The KPA500 Amplifier serial #161 is in perfect condition, is complete with > all manuals. > > The radio is 12 months old, the P3 is 6 months old and the Amplifier is 5 > months old. > > The landed new price in Australia for everything above is approximately > $9500.00 for all items, I am asking only $8000.00 for the complete package! > (Sorry, I won't separate) > > Please contact me (Jeff) via email off list or you can ring me on > +61-740616760. > > > > - > Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA > Innisfail, QLD, Australia. > Elecraft K3 #4257 + P3 #1629 + KPA500 #161 + PR6 + K144XV = OMFG! > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-For-Sale-complete-K-Line-in-Australia-tp7556876.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 psk D splater
Thanks Geoff Understood. I have already shortened the leads quite a bit. and made a decent change in the voltage drop cant remember the difference. Last night I was also able to make some tests (before the lead length change) using the K3 into a dummy and the second reciever with a very short antenna and DIGIPAN My signal on PSK D looked great right up to full power. so I think I have everyting right and shouldn't have worried about what the other guy had said. The reason it had me going was that having worked PSK31 for many years using my old rig an then the K3 using DATA A I dont think Ive had any complaints for a long time. and on the first QSO I had with PSK-D someone complained. Murphy s law I guess. David Moes VE3DVY PS sorry that you are getting this twice Geoff initially I sent to wrong address I intended to post to the list On 5/31/2012 10:52 AM, Geoffrey Mackenzie-Kennedy wrote: > Hello David, > > If a PSK signal is generated in an early stage of a transmitter (or is > fed into an input of a transmitter), then all of the transmitter's > stages which follow should be "linear" to keep the signal clean. In > the case of the basic type of PSK 31.25 signal consisting of a single > tone, whose phase is changed by 180 degrees, the change of phase > results in sidebands spaced 31.25 kHz each side of the main signal. > If the transmitter's stages which follow are not adequately linear, > then IMD products could create "splatter". > > In the case of solid state linear amplifiers, especially those using a > "12 V" DC supply, to prevent poor linearity it is necessary to use a > DC supply and interconnecting cables/ connectors which do not allow > the supply voltage to "sag" with increasing current draw. I note that > you said that there is almost a difference of one volt between 25W and > 100W key down. > > 73, > > Geoff > LX2AO > > > On May 30, 2012 at 3:13 PM, David Moes VE3DVY wrote: > > >> Question, What can cause splatter when using PSK-D I had the power >> dialed to 25W so I certainly wasn.t running to much power, and just >> to be sure that I was actually using PSK -d I had pulled the audio >> line in/out from the K3. Am I missing something? > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
I have had a Microham MK2R+ for a long time. It works great. It is no more difficult to set up than the Logging software you are going to use with it. So if you can't figure out N1MM or Writelog you probably won't figure out any of the SO2R setups. There is a learning curve with anything. Was anyone an expert with their K3 the first day? NO! I learn new tricks with my K3's all the time and to an extent the same could be said for the MK2R+ and finding better and more efficient ways to use it. Router runs on the computer. If you computer dies you are probably done contesting anyway right? I not going be too competitive trying to find paper, pencil and then trying to remember who I worked etc. We used two Microham Microkeyer II's at J6M and never had a hiccup. Whether you like Joe or not the guy knows his stuff and you will find his help just as timely if not quicker than Elecraft. I ran SO2R rtty in one contest and I felt like I was cheating it was so easy! I am very happy with all my Microham products and their excellent support. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 2:05 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > Since Rick chose to make one of his typical swipes at the microHAM > hardware and software, I guess I need to weigh in on this topic - > something I have refrained from doing so far. > >> The MK2R+ is too complex - hundreds of settings to learn and try to >> nail down. > MK2R+ is without question the most flexible and powerful SO2R box > available but with flexibility comes complexity. *HOWEVER*. like any > other advanced amateur radio product - including the K3, P3 and KPA-500 > - if you read the manual and use the product as it was designed to be > used you will have no problems. If on the other hand, you decide that > you know better than the designers how the device *should* work and > fail to read the manual, or try to use it as you think it should work, > or the way you *wish* it would work, or the way your *think* another > product used to work, you will get in trouble. > > MK2R+ is still the overwhelming choice of leading contesters AROUND > THE WORLD. > >> The micro2R appears to be simpler but still uses the @*&%! microHam >> uRouter software. > micro2R is much more basic but it does provide features like split > audio (stereo), the ability to hear your own manual sending, the > ability to force receive focus on the non-transmitting radio when > sending canned messages, etc. microHAM's Router driver/control > software is an integral part of the system and makes available many > features *not possible* with other products (including logger driven > antenna selection, etc.). Again, when one is too stubborn (stupid) > to read the manual and use the products as designed, and worse yet > gives others incorrect information about the operation (just like > Icom and Flex zelots who trash Elecraft), you get into trouble. > > As to the YCCC box ... it's a nice toy and shares many concepts with > the microHAM products which preceeded it by more than five years. > However, with the YCCC box you're dependent on a small group of > volunteers for support and software. What happens when the key > people lose interest, have personal crises, or simple get tired of > the project - where do you go for support and software fixes? > > Are you willing/comfortable to build a kit on the hope that one or > two key persons will be willing to provide free software support for > life? > > 73, > > ... Joe Subich, W4TV > microHAM America, LLC. > http://www.microHAM-USA.com > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/microHAM > > > On 5/31/2012 1:10 PM, Rick Tavan N6XI wrote: >> The DX Doubler is too simple - you can't hear hand sending when doing true >> SO2R without throwing a switch before and after using the paddle. The MK2R+ >> is too complex - hundreds of settings to learn and try to nail down. Yes, >> Joe's support is excellent but you need lots of it. The micro2R appears to >> be simpler but still uses the @*&%! microHam uRouter software. I love the >> YCCC SO2R Box Plus. It's just right, does everything I need and not much >> else. Only problem is, it's a club project and not available off the shelf. >> But if you can get in on one of the group buys, it's the best SO2R >> controller I've used or heard of. See my review at >> https://sites.google.com/site/rtavan/yccc-so2r-box-product-review . >> >> /Rick >> >> On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 9:42 PM, John wrote: >> >>> I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R controllers. It >>> will be controlling two K3's. I am considering the microHam micro2R and >>> the Top Ten DX Doubler. Each has its advantages: >>> >>> micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK,& SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears >>> to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. >>> >>> DX Doubler: CW& SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the >>> "manual" mode that does not appear
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
KX3. It is newer. Not nearly the pieces parts kit that the K2 is. It doesn't sound like you were going to build your K2. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 5:37 PM, ae7...@gmail.com wrote: > Thanks for all the input so far. > > I guess part of my partiality to KX3 is that I WOULD build it and that would > make it a bit more of a "personal" rig for me. If that makes sense. > > > Stan AE7UT > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850p7556880.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
The amp will fault out if the radio puts out too much power. Unless you mess with the knobs while amp is in operate mode the power out is not going to magically change. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 2:08 PM, donehrl...@q.com wrote: > I really like that idea. I never quite trust the lower power setting of > the K3 when the amplifier is put on-line and always manually check it to > be sure it is where I hope it is. It would be *much* better for the K3 > to display the new power setting instead of those unnecessary 'KPA ... ' > messages just as Fred suggested. > > Don K7FJ > > snip > > CHANGE: Replace both messages with one that tells me what the K3 power > will be when I next tap the paddle [or talk]. I've got the two power > levels for each band set, and most of the time it works. Occasionally, > after adjusting the high power antenna tuner with just the K3 in TUNE > [5W], going to OPER leaves the power at 5W. Once, it went to 100W which > faults off the KPA500 instantly, of course. Occasionally, the K3 stays > at low power when I go to STBY. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California > Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org > __ Elecraft > mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: > mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
True building is winding toroids and making hundreds of solder joints plus mechanical assembly. The k2 qualifies as a real home brewed rig for several club contests. The KX3 is a great rig but does not qualify as a true kit in the eyes of many contest sponsors. Ariel NY4G Sent from my iPhone On May 31, 2012, at 7:38 PM, "ae7...@gmail.com" wrote: > Thanks for all the input so far. > > I guess part of my partiality to KX3 is that I WOULD build it and that would > make it a bit more of a "personal" rig for me. If that makes sense. > > > Stan AE7UT > > -- > View this message in context: > http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K2-vs-KX3-which-would-you-get-tp7556850p7556880.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] K3 and satellites
Hello folks, I've been googling (and checking the elecraft reflector) the K3's satellite capabilities (with transverters). >From what i've been able to determine it WONT work so due to it's inability to provided cross-band full duplex. (i.e. xtmit on 2 meters and hear myself on 440 or similiar). But I've also read where it was' possible' or in the design works or ? So, could someone please update me as to whether the K3 is satellite capable (is anyone here using it) and can provide full duplex operation? (Or if mods are available to do so?) thanks for any info. chuck af4xk -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-and-satellites-tp7556887.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
On 5/31/2012 10:59 PM, Gary Gregory wrote: > *The ability to be able to control what is displayed is one of the great > features of the K3. This 'feature' for want of a better word would allow > each operator to 'see' and 'confirm' what is happening if it was 'user > selectable'. Gary has a very good point. Making it selectable shouldn't be all that hard [he who used to cringe when one of his users said that and he had to make it happen :-) ] Not everyone may like my suggestion. I suggest this would be a "try it both ways, decide, and you probably wouldn't touch it again." > The one thing I think I can recall is that i do not remember seeing this > issue with the Tune function prior to FW 4.51. I am not at all certain of > this but I think this has only been a very recent occurrence? I'm not real prompt in FW upgrades if it doesn't do something I care about. I was last on production v.4R48 before v.4R51, and it was doing it then too. Honestly, I *think* but don't *know* that it was doing it before I got the KPA500. I made a couple DX contacts and was then surprised I did it at 5W and not 100. I will get behind the rig, where one wonders why they call this "wireless," find the right cable and re-seat it a couple of times. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Elecraft] K2 vs. KX3 which would you get?
Hi Stan, it's been a while, I thought I reconized the call and name. I was just thru Nephi last week, if I'd of thought about it, I would have stopped in at the hospital. Next time, in Nov ! I have my KX3 now, s/n 45 ! I'd go for the KX3 Stan, you won't regret it one ioda !! Pick up a used K2 later ! I also have the K2, and the K1, and KX1. All great radio's, but for what you want to do, get the KX3, order it now !! You'll have it by fall I would think ! And you also have Wayne's input, you can't go wrong there !! Good luck and maybe we can hook up again on CW some late night !! Glad to see you're still out there !! Best RegardsEd N7EDK in Marana,AZ __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P3 assembled
Yesterday the UPS man brought me a nice white box from CA. It was the P3 I ordered in Dayton! Today I carefully assembled it and placed it lovingly beside my K3. Then I went to hook it up and realized I did not order the KXV3A for the K3. Oh well! The colors on the P3 screen look nice and assembly went well. Now I have to be patient for another week and a half for the KXV3A to come all the way from CA. The best laid plans.. Keith Hamilton N8CEP __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 - For Sale - complete K-Line in Australia
Sorry to hear about the loss of interest. Best wishes and we hope we hear you on the bands again in the future. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com Thanks Mike, one never knows where or when I might pop up. - Jeff Cochrane - VK4XA Innisfail, QLD, Australia. Elecraft K3 #4257 + P3 #1629 + KPA500 #161 + PR6 + K144XV = Performance with a capital E! -- View this message in context: http://elecraft.365791.n2.nabble.com/K3-For-Sale-complete-K-Line-in-Australia-tp7556876p7556891.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P3 assembled
Do you have the KXV3A should probably be a question asked to anyone buying a P3. Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 7:31 PM, Keith Hamilton wrote: > Yesterday the UPS man brought me a nice white box from CA. It was > the P3 I ordered in Dayton! Today I carefully assembled it and > placed it lovingly beside my K3. Then I went to hook it up and > realized I did not order the KXV3A for the K3. Oh well! The > colors on the P3 screen look nice and assembly went well. Now I > have to be patient for another week and a half for the KXV3A to > come all the way from CA. The best laid plans.. > > Keith Hamilton N8CEP > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] [K3] MON on headphones only please?
Hi Wayne, When I'm using my K3 for SSB I mostly use a headset, and I like to have the MON level set so I can hear my own modulation. But I also very often use SPKR+PH=Yes most of the time as I often put down the headphones and walk around the room or do other things (I also mainly use my speakers for CW). But when I don the headset I often forget that the speakers are still on (and MON is above 0), and this causes echo and nasty audio. I would really like an option where MON would be automatically set to 0 if the speakers were enabled. 73, Thomas M0TRN __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] MON on headphones only please?
This would be a good option! Mike W0MU W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com Http://www.w0mu.com On 5/31/2012 8:23 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote: > Hi Wayne, > > When I'm using my K3 for SSB I mostly use a headset, and I like to have the > MON level set so I can hear my own modulation. But I also very often use > SPKR+PH=Yes most of the time as I often put down the headphones and walk > around the room or do other things (I also mainly use my speakers for CW). > But when I don the headset I often forget that the speakers are still on > (and MON is above 0), and this causes echo and nasty audio. > > I would really like an option where MON would be automatically set to 0 if > the speakers were enabled. > > 73, Thomas M0TRN > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] P2 Span Question
I have been playing with my new P3 and wonder how others use the "span" feature on different modes. I have been using a span of: CW - 10 to 15 SSB - 50 to 60 RTTY - 40- 50 What do others use for "span?" Lee - K0WA In our day and age it seems that Common Sense is in short supply. If you don't have any Common Sense - get some Common Sense and use it. If you can't find any Common Sense, ask for help from somebody who has some Common Sense. Is Common Sense divine? Common Sense is the image of the Creator expressing revealed truth in my mind. - John W. (Kansas) Never interfere with anything that isn't bothering you. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P2 Span Question
On 6/1/2012 2:36 AM, Lee Buller wrote: > I have been playing with my new P3 and wonder how others use the > "span" feature on different modes. > > I have been using a span of: > > CW - 10 to 15 > SSB - 50 to 60 > RTTY - 40- 50 > > What do others use for "span?" > I keep it pretty simple ... I'm mainly CW, I have FN1 set for Peak/Span 4, FN2 for FixTrack/Span 20, FN3 for MKRA zero/Span40, and FN4 for MKRB zero/Span 200. I have never used the Markers, I never use Freeze, I never use Span 200, and I'm always in FixTrack. It appears I have an overabundance of programmable function keys.:-) 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012 - www.cqp.org __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P2 Span Question
I find that I'm leaving the span at +-10 kHz on SSB and may narrow it on CW. I try to keep the ref lvl set so the noise is at the bottom of the spectrum display and then have the waterfall set to about 30% of the screen. Watching the P3 has become such a habit that I can't imagine not having it now! 73, de Nate, N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
[Elecraft] Need pricing help for used K2 system
Last summer W6EB and I took on selling off the station of Doug Westover, W6JD (SK). Doug was an early fan of Elecraft. We sold most of Doug's stuff, including his antennas and his early K3 in 2011. With most of the substantial "big" items gone, we "suspended" our efforts with his K2 system still unsold. We would like to find it a home now. Here is what is included: * K2 S/N 1626 * KSB2 * KNB2 * KBT2 * KAT2 * KAF2 * KPA100 * KAT100-2 * EC2 * ETS2 * KIO2 * KDSP2 The rig is, of course, in two boxes. We did fire it up on all bands last summer, and all seemed FB. Physical condition is good; I have it here in my shack, but not online. WE have most of the original invoices, but that was then and this is now. We would like to establish a reasonable estimate of current market value, sell it for the widow, and move on. We are not seeking to squeeze every last dollar--just get a fair price. Some help, please? Garry, NI6T __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] MON on headphones only please?
*Would that not disallow MON for those that can use it when the external speaker is in use? I don't own an external speaker by the way so no chance of it happening here..:-) or are you meaning this action would only apply to the K3 internal speaker. I have MON set @4 all the time, headset or desk mic. Gary * On 1 June 2012 12:28, W0MU Mike Fatchett wrote: > This would be a good option! > > Mike W0MU > > W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net:23 or w0mu-1.dnsdynamic.com > Http://www.w0mu.com > > > On 5/31/2012 8:23 PM, Thomas Horsten wrote: > > Hi Wayne, > > > > When I'm using my K3 for SSB I mostly use a headset, and I like to have > the > > MON level set so I can hear my own modulation. But I also very often use > > SPKR+PH=Yes most of the time as I often put down the headphones and walk > > around the room or do other things (I also mainly use my speakers for > CW). > > But when I don the headset I often forget that the speakers are still on > > (and MON is above 0), and this causes echo and nasty audio. > > > > I would really like an option where MON would be automatically set to 0 > if > > the speakers were enabled. > > > > 73, Thomas M0TRN > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- Gary VK4FD - Motorhome Mobile Elecraft Equipment K3 #679, KPA-500 #018 KAT-500#?? Living the dream!!! __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [KX3] Logging/rig control software and the KX3
Sounds good. However, supporting the KX3 after already supporting the K3 should be minimal work -- if any at all -- for HRD. I will have to look into HRD though -- currently not a user but I am always curious. Don't use computers very much with ham radio -- probably because I am a computer programmer and that is what I do all day long! 73, phil, K7PEH On May 31, 2012, at 12:48 PM, Terry Schieler wrote: > I have been told by the proverbial "trusted source" that KX3 owners will be > pleased with the KX3 rig support in the 6.x versions of Ham Radio Deluxe, so > I am passing that along for what it´s worth. I have no further information > than that, nor can I offer more specifics (my proverbial "trusted source" > didn't trust me with them). If you are a fan of HRD and considering a KX3 > purchase I thought that comment might be of interest. > > My point is just how quickly we see some of what I would call "peripheral > vendors" embracing even the newest announced Elecraft products and responding > quickly to them. That speaks loads for the Elecraft reputation in the > market. And, that has not always been the case when "the other guys" > released new transceiver models. > > I've always found it interesting to observe how our hobby's peripheral > accessory vendors "place their bets". > > Disclaimer: I am not affiliated with HRD or any other software company. And, > I don´t even own a KX3 :o( YET! > > > Terry, WØFM > > K3 #474 > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] P2 Span Question
I use Cw almost exclusively with an occasional RTTY QSO. In a contest I will use +-4. When trying to work a DX split I will open up the span to include where ever the DX happens to be listening. In a contest I hardly ever look at the K3 freq., I keep my eye on the P3 display. When S&Ping I look for spikes. When ready to run I look for as wide a valley as I can find ;o). 73 Joe K2UF No trees were harmed in the sending of this e-mail; however, many electrons were inconvenienced. -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Nate Bargmann Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2012 11:02 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] P2 Span Question I find that I'm leaving the span at +-10 kHz on SSB and may narrow it on CW. I try to keep the ref lvl set so the noise is at the bottom of the spectrum display and then have the waterfall set to about 30% of the screen. Watching the P3 has become such a habit that I can't imagine not having it now! 73, de Nate, N0NB >> -- "The optimist proclaims that we live in the best of all possible worlds. The pessimist fears this is true." Ham radio, Linux, bikes, and more: http://www.n0nb.us __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
> 7. The u2R is expandable to MK2R capability by adding 2 microKEYERs > in the future. To *almost* MK2R capability ... there are some headphone switching options and a couple of advance control features that can't be duplicated. However, by using an MK II and a DK II with micro2R one has even more flexibility for digital mode (RTTY) contesting including support for simultaneous dual receiver operation that is not available with MK2R/MK2R+. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 5/31/2012 7:12 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > Just realized that my posted response addressed the other responses more > than John's original query, so here is more direct input. The u2R is a > superset of the DX Doubler feature set and more expensive. It is an > individual decision as to whether those additional features are worth the > higher price for one's needs/wants: > > 1. The u2R also has a manual mode, without computer connection, once it is > configured with the Router on the computer. The manual features are less > than the computer-connected features, but still everything available with > the DX Doubler. > 2. The u2R has both USB and LPT connectivity. The DX Doubler requires a > complete LPT port, i.e., a USB-LPT adapter only supports printers, not the > signal(s) needed by the DX Doubler. > 3. The u2R receive audio switching is user-configurable to virtually any > alternative. The DX Doubler has only 2-3 choices, but that may be all you > want. > 4. The u2R has transmit audio level controls for each radio, FSK keying for > each radio, DVK, WinKey and a PS/2 jack for a numeric pad or keyboard. > 5. The u2R has isolated USB, LPT and soundcard ports, although the latter > are not needed with the K3's transformer-coupled LINE IN/OUT ports. > 6. microHAM does not produce cables for the u2R, but I made mine up easily > with parts from Mouser (DB9 connectors, DB9 hoods, and nice molded connector > cables with phone or RCA Phono plugs on one end and tinned pigtails on the > other end). > 7. The u2R is expandable to MK2R capability by adding 2 microKEYERs in the > future. In fact, most (all?) of the microHAM products can be integrated > together all using a single installation of the Router software, with a tab > for each box. The documentation shows the detailed interconnection of all > the reasonable combinations of microHAM products. > 8. Both TopTen and microHAM have excellent support that has been > demonstrated for many years now. > > Ed - W0YK > > > John, N0TA, wrote: >> I want to try out S02R, and need some inputs on SO2R >> controllers. It will be controlling two K3's. I am >> considering the microHam micro2R and the Top Ten DX Doubler. >> Each has its advantages: >> >> micro2R: Capable of CW, FSK,& SSB. Includes WinKey keyer. Appears >> to have a lot of active support from Joe Subich. >> >> DX Doubler: CW& SSB (I can work the FSK interface). I like the >> "manual" mode that does not appear to require any computer >> connection. Device and K3 cables available at a reasonable cost. > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] [K3] SO2R Controllers
On 5/31/2012 2:27 PM, Ed Muns wrote: > The YCCC SO2R box has all the disadvantages that Joe has outlined plus > it requires an external level translator circuit for FSK. FSK is not important to everyone. It isn't to me, even though I'm an active RTTY contester. And it's trivially easy to do SO2R AFSK with any decent sound card with major contest loggers. . . > That detracts > from the advantage of an integrated box and lowered my confidence in the > design choices made in this unit. I strongly disagree with your implication that the YCCC box designer(s) were not very good. They WERE, and the box is really well thought out operationally. They simply have different priorities than you do. :) My only fault with it is that the designer(s) are totally ignorant of the fundamentals of shielding, but there's so little active circuitry in it that it doesn't matter. I'm using a pair of low cost USB audio interfaces to feed K3 audio to a couple of computers for RTTY decoding. I have no comments on Joe's boxes -- I've never used one nor felt the need to do so. And what I've seen of the DXDoubler at stations where I've operated strongly suggests that it's got Pin One Problems, which can cause hum, buzz, and RFI issues. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 KPA500 Oper/Stby Alert
Please folks leave it alone, there are enough menu items to fiddle with as it is. My K3 is set for power per band into the KPA500, I also operate QRP CW at the 5 Watt level and I do not have a problem with the way the operate/standby works. 73 Dave, G4AON __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
