Re: [Elecraft] K4D for bargain price on eBay

[John Stengrevics]

Tie wraps work also.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 14, 2024, at 10:59 AM, jerry  wrote:
> 
> On 2024-03-14 07:51, Gregory Mitchell wrote:
> 
>> think the cost per toroid/snap-on
> 
> Here's something I found out about snap-on ferrites:  Don't depend on the 
> plastic shell.  I had installed snap-ons
> on the power leads of my homebrew LDMOS linear.  When I transmitted, I could 
> hear my voice coming out of the box.
> It was the ferrites buzzing.  I popped them apart, reinstalled with a drop of 
> cyanoacrylate glue on each surface, and
> all was well.
> 
> - Jerry, KF6VB
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Re: [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?

[John Stengrevics]

I would very much like to read a comparison from someone who has had the 
opportunity to run both rigs.

73,

John
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> On Oct 24, 2023, at 3:52 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I do not see where Eric said to close this thread.  He said it is perfectly
> OK comparing another manufacture's product to an Elecraft one.   I do not
> think anyone really answered WB5THT's question.
> 
> John KK9A 
> 
> 
> 
> [Elecraft] TS-890 vs K4D performance?
> Keith Trinity WE6R wrote:
> 
> Guys GUYS! ... guess where I learned this :)
> Eric asked that everyone stop posting about this and CLOSED the thread 
> Monday!
> Please read his post below.
> If you need to comment, send me a private email as several folks have done.
> 
> Keith WE6R, list manager and K3/K4 Tech (I have radios to repair... and 
> play with)
> 
> 
> 
> Folks - It is perfectly OK to have -civil- discussions here comparing our
> rigs to other rigs (within a reasonable length.) .
> 
> And it's ok to post Elecraft products for sale here.
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> It is NOT OK to be rude or get personal and criticize other's postings.
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Re: [Elecraft] [Elecraft-K4] wtb SP4

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Darrell,

You may want to shop around for an SP3.  Same speaker on the inside.

73,

John
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> On Jul 20, 2023, at 9:10 PM, Darrell - AB2E  wrote:
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> Hi All,
> Bought a nearly new K4D a few months back without a speaker, now Elecraft has 
> them backordered.
> Anyone have a spare, or one they would be willing to sell>?
> Contact me offlist a...@comcast.net 
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Re: [Elecraft] Recommendation for Microphone for K3s?

[John Stengrevics]

I have a Heil PR40 which has always received great reports with my K3S.  To the 
extent that I am not hankering for CESSB on the K4.

John
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> On Nov 1, 2022, at 6:08 PM, Brian Hunt  wrote:
> 
> Like you I’m 99% CW OP but for years I’ve used inexpensive (~$20) computer 
> headsets with my K3.  Light weight and don’t clamp your head. Comfortable to 
> wear for hours. They’re a bit hard to find these days because most are 
> Bluetooth. The K3 TXEQ can make it sound good. 
> 
> 73,
> Brian, K0DTJ
> 
>> On Nov 1, 2022, at 14:13, Bernie and Cheryl  wrote:
>> 
>> Dear Folks:
>> 
>> Although I'm primarily a CW op, and dabble in FT8 (sadly, sometimes there's 
>> no one on anywhere else except for FT8), I'm thinking about expanding my SSB 
>> presence on the bands.  I have a K3s and would be interested if anyone has a 
>> specific recommendation for a good microphone?  I'm thinking about one of 
>> the Heil microphones (either the Heil Gold or the Heil HM-10XD) but am 
>> willing to look at anything else someone may recommend.
>> 
>> Thanks and 73 de Bernie, KF0QS
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Re: [Elecraft] External Preamp & RX ANT IN/OUT

[John Stengrevics]

Thanks all for the helpful comments.

Don, I will try to call you this afternoon if you have time.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 31, 2022, at 9:34 AM, Joe Subich, W4TV  wrote:
> 
> 
> What preamp are you using?  Specifically, what are you trying
> to accomplish?
> 
> The basic answer is: connect RX Ant Out to the preamp input and
> connect the preamp output to RX Ant In.  Activate (tap) RX ANT
> to toggle the external preamp in/out.
> 
> If the preamp has its own bypass relay you can use CONFIG:DIGOUT1
> (and any necessary external circuitry) to bypass the preamp on
> a per band basis.  See: CONFIG:DIGOUT1 in the K3/K3S Owner Manual.
> 
> 73,
> 
>   ... Joe, W4TV
> 
> 
> On 2022-08-31 8:33 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> I was told that a preamp can be connected across the RX ANT IN/OUT jacks and 
>> that certain settings are then changed to make this work.
>> However, I cannot find anything in the manual or the Cady book that 
>> discusses this.
>> Appreciate any comments.
>> John
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[Elecraft] External Preamp & RX ANT IN/OUT

[John Stengrevics]

I was told that a preamp can be connected across the RX ANT IN/OUT jacks and 
that certain settings are then changed to make this work.

However, I cannot find anything in the manual or the Cady book that discusses 
this.  

Appreciate any comments.

John
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[Elecraft] K3S Antenna Selection

[John Stengrevics]

I have a K3S without antenna tuner.  Is there any way to enable ANT2  to use a 
different antenna than ANT1?  For example, I have a 6 meter antenna connected 
to ANT1 and would like to use ANT2 for a 10 meter antenna.  From what I am 
reading in the manual and Cady’s book, this doesn’t seem possible.

Thanks.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Firmware Updating

[John Stengrevics]

There is no way to update wirelessly?

John
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> On Apr 25, 2022, at 4:00 PM, Rick Tavan  wrote:
> 
> No other setup that I'm aware of. Just plug in wired RJ45 Ethernet with
> active DHCP and an IP address appears on the K4 menu. Tap Fn|UPDATE and
> you're in dialog to download the latest or a prior release. Easy peasy.
> 
> If you don't have easy access to wired Ethernet, use a so-called Ethernet
> Extender with an RJ45 jack and use your in-home WiFi signal.
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
> /Rick N6XI
> 
> On Mon, Apr 25, 2022 at 11:47 AM Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
>> That is only true if DHCP is enabled in the router [it almost always is
>> in home situations], AND the device you're connecting is configured to
>> negotiate with DHCP for an IP address lease.  I don't have a K4 but I
>> suspect there is at least one other attribute for the IP address setting
>> that will activate DHCP negotiation with your router.
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
>> Sparks NV DM09dn
>> Washoe County
>> 
>> Dave wrote on 4/25/2022 11:28 AM:
>>> When you plug in the Ethernet connection from the radio to your router
>> then router should assign the radio an IP address then you can do the
>> akftware updates.
>>> 
>>> Dave wo2x
>>> 
>>> Sent from my waxed string and tin cans.
>>> 
 On Apr 25, 2022, at 2:24 PM, Roy Morris, Jr. via Elecraft <
>> elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:
 
 Can I connect the ethernet port directly from my internet sevice
>> provider router to my K4 for firmware updates?  If so, would I need to go
>> into the K4 menu and change the IP address since NO ETHERNET is the default
>> setting?  Thanks.  Roy Morris  W4WFB
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Frequency Calibration

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Pete,

The WWV method worked for me until it didn’t.  On the advice of one of the K3 
gurus, I am now using a Leo Bodnar frequency source.  Works great.

73,

John
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> On Dec 16, 2021, at 4:34 PM, Pete Smith N4ZR  wrote:
> 
> I've been wondering for some time if my 10-year-old K3's frequency 
> calibration was off, because it seemed like most spots of me were well off 
> when I clicked on them, usually in one direction.  Not having a frequency 
> counter, I went to the alternative method outlined in page 49 of the manual.  
> I thought I did it all "by the book", but found that when I was done 15-MHz 
> WWV's carrier frequency (determined by zero-beating the carrier) was almost 
> 400 Hz low. Since I wasn't looking for FMT-level accuracy, I went back to WWV 
> and adjusted the REF CAL setting by ear until 15.000 on my RX dial was as 
> close to zero-beat with WWV as I could tell. We'll see how it worked out, but 
> I wonder if I simply have some fundamental misunderstanding of what's 
> involved.  Wouldn't be the first time...
> 
> -- 
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Re: [Elecraft] HELP! XFINITY SHUT OFF INTERNET DUE TO HAM ANTENNAS

[John Stengrevics]

Give the legal folks at ARRL a call.

John
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> On Oct 20, 2021, at 2:21 PM, eric norris via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Dear Gang:
> Xfinity, our internet provider, showed up at 7:30am this morning, to explain 
> to the XYL that we were being cut off for good because my amateur radio 
> activities had caused wide area outages.  Oddly, these wide area outages did 
> not include my own house.  They told her the antennas themselves--absent any 
> power--were the problem
> The last time I was threatened, I installed chokes and opto-isolaters on our 
> shielded ethernet lines, and after being told they use 14Mhz as their carrier 
> frequency, I have stayed off 20m, only using 100w unless I'm in a rare 
> contest.  I asked to speak to a technical guy--they gave me a number which I 
> called, but he never called back.
> Any Ideas?  Does anyone have a contact at the ARRL, or know a communications 
> lawyer?  Comcast/Xfinity will be back out here at 2pm Pacific time--I'd 
> appreciate any help.  
> My XYL depends on an internet connection to work.  Being off the air is 
> unimaginable.
> Frantic,
> 
> 73, Eric WD6DBM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 / WSJT-X Delayed Transmit

[John Stengrevics]

James,

I had the same problem here running a Mac.  Solved it by going to CAT, Mode = 
None, Split = None.

I have no delay now.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Oct 11, 2021, at 1:31 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Hi Folks,
> 
> Wondering if someone on the list might be able to solve this one. I’m using a 
> K3 and while CW is my main passion, I do dabble in FT8 occasionally. I’ve 
> noticed that the radio does not start transmitting right at the start of the 
> 15 second FT8 cycle. It will start anywhere from 2 - 5 seconds into the 
> cycle. I can’t help but think that is not a good thing and could be the cause 
> of an occasional missed QSO. I DO make QSOs but this kinda bothers me. The 
> audio signals are delayed this amount of time, as is the red TX light coming 
> on - I am using VOX . Same thing happens when I press the TUNE button - it 
> takes anywhere from 2-5 seconds for the rig to go into transmit mode.
> 
> I really doubt it is due to computer overload, as the only applications 
> running are WSJT-X, MacLoggerDX (my logging program), and JT-Bridge  - all 
> other applications have been ended. Since this happens when I press TUNE, 
> that pretty much eliminates JT-Bridge and MacLoggerDX as the cause. Some 
> hardware and software specifics:
> 
> Mac mini, 32 GB RAM, 3GHz processor, 6 cores, Intel Core i5.
> Mac OS Big Sur 11.5
> WSJT-X 2.4.0
> Audio Interface: Tascam US-125M external USB device
> Values in the DT column are consistently about 0.1 - 0.4
> 
> Wasn’t sure if I should post this here or on the WSJT-X list, but I thought 
> I’d start here. Any ideas?
> 
> 
> Jim / K7TXA
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Re: [Elecraft] K3/K3S Options and Upgrades

[John Stengrevics]

Tom,

W3DVX posts occasionally here offering Elecraft rig service.  At this time, 
this is probably the best bet for timely service.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 2, 2021, at 9:26 AM, Thomas Donohue  wrote:
> 
> Given the termination of options and upgrades, I’m concerned that the same 
> thing will happen to K3/K3S service and repair. There are a lot of us here in 
> customer land that will need that capability well into the future, therefore 
> it’s loss or diminishment would adversely affect lots of folks.  I attempted 
> to post this item on the K4 reflector and it was denied in part because it 
> was off topic; however, it seems to me  that the increasing attention being 
> paid to the K4, has resulted in less attention going to the K3/K3S. So, I 
> would like to know how some of you out there feel about that? 
> 
> Best 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Not Able to hear CW

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Unfortunately not that simple Andy.  When switching to CW mode, I tune around 
to make sure that it’s not a shift causing this .  But , no luck.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 20, 2021, at 5:50 PM, Andy Durbin  wrote:
> 
> "I can hear a 6 meter beacon on Data mode, but when I switch to CW I get no 
> copy at all."
> 
> Does the K3, like the TS-590, have a user option that defines how the change 
> to CW is handled?  The options are typically to keep the dial frequency the 
> same and shift where the RX is listening, or to keep listening in the same 
> place and shift the dial frequency.  In either case the shift is the chosen 
> CW pitch.
> 
> 73,
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[Elecraft] Fwd: Not Able to hear CW

[John Stengrevics]

Oops - on my K3S

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Stengrevics 
> Subject: Not Able to hear CW
> Date: May 20, 2021 at 4:51:54 PM EDT
> To: elecraft 
> 
> I have an unusual phenomenon.  I can hear a 6 meter beacon on Data mode, but 
> when I switch to CW I get no copy at all.  Any thoughts?
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
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[Elecraft] Not Able to hear CW

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I have an unusual phenomenon.  I can hear a 6 meter beacon on Data mode, but 
when I switch to CW I get no copy at all.  Any thoughts?

73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] Where are the K4 reviews?

[John Stengrevics]

During the online event some weeks ago, Eric said he expected to finish Group 1 
by May.  

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 30, 2021, at 2:51 PM, Steven Kline via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Paid in full here since last year and ordered June 2019, try rationalizing 
> that with spouse.  Down to my last TT Orion of two, barely keeping it on the 
> air.  Almost at point of needing to cancel and ask money be returned so I can 
> get something else and keep operating.  Seeing nothing, hearing nothing (not 
> even from anyone receiving a K-4 - assuming some are shipping).  Latter I 
> don’t understand how anyone would allow themselves to be bound in secrecy.  
> If occurring must be significant benefit for observing code of silence.  I 
> see no light at all inside the tunnel.
> 
> Steve - W5JK
> 
>> On Mar 30, 2021, at 10:55 AM, Lyn Norstad  wrote:
>> 
>> I can’t imagine how it would feel to know that I had laid out $4k two years 
>> ago, and still be waiting for fulfillment.  NO, actually I can.  
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Several years ago, an up-and-coming system integration business I had been 
>> associated with for several years (as a VAR) was going thru many of the same 
>> types of growing pains in bringing a wonderful new product to market.  The 
>> CEO vowed he would run the business as if they were broke, which they very 
>> nearly were.  But the employees were faithful believers in the company and 
>> the product, and worked very hard to make it a success.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Early one Monday morning, I had a call from that CEO advising me that they 
>> had sold the company to another industry player (a non-competitor) and that 
>> they wanted me to join them for lunch to discuss the deal.  My fear and 
>> trepidation slowly disappeared that day as I met the new management “team” 
>> (with all the old R&D team still hard at work), got viable answers to all 
>> the hard questions and quickly recognized how an immediate cash infusion 
>> ($10 Million) had an amazing ability to totally turn things around, grease 
>> the wheels, and create an industry shakeup that precipitated a wave of 
>> further consolidation and rapid development.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> It was a win-win situation born out of the impending potential disaster we 
>> had all feared.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Hang in there.  Times might seem tough, but there are some very smart people 
>> at work here.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Lyn, W0LEN
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> From: elecraft...@groups.io [mailto:elecraft...@groups.io] On Behalf Of Ted 
>> Roycraft
>> Sent: Monday, March 29, 2021 4:44 PM
>> To: elecraft...@groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [Elecraft-K4] Where are the K4 reviews?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The natives are getting restless and it would be good to hear something 
>> official from Elecraft.  It's been too long since we've heard much of 
>> anything.  I would like to know if I can expect my Group 1 order, submitted 
>> on August 8, 2019, has any chance of getting to me before summer, 2021 
>> begins or is it likely that I will have to wait another year.  I could have 
>> asked much the same question a year ago never expecting that a year from 
>> then, there would still be no K4 sitting on my table by now.  By the way, 
>> when I submitted my order the expected shipping date was estimated to be 
>> November or December, 2019.  That's pre-pandemic.
>> 
>> 73, Ted, W2ZK
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Re: [Elecraft] Why is my K3 off frequency?

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Charles,

Maybe you’ve done this, but if not, you should do frequency calibration per the 
manual (p.53 in mine).  

This worked well for me until it didn’t.  I then had to go to a 10 MHz external 
source which works well except that my 2 meter transverter is 600 Hz low (all 
other frequencies are perfect).  Tech support provided an adjustment solution 
for the transverter which  is beyond what I can do.  Will send it back to 
Elecraft when my K4 arrives.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 23, 2021, at 8:27 AM, Michael Walker  wrote:
> 
> If your Net Control station has an accurate enough ear to tell you are 12Hz
> off frequency on an SSB net, I would ask him to align it for you.
> 
> On 80M, you may be only off frequency by a few hz.
> 
> 12Hz at 50Mhz is really nothing.  If it concerns you, you will need to
> align it with the correct alignment tools and a trip to a repair facility
> with a calibrated frequency standard is in order.  If it was me, I wouldn't
> worry about it too much.  You can remind your Net controller that that is
> what the RIT control, is for on his radio.
> 
> If I remember correctly, the K3 accuracy is 5ppm and at 50Mhz that is +/-
> 250hz at 50Mhz.  It is only 15Hz at 80M.   If my assumption is correct or
> PPM, your radio is within Spec.  I'm sure others will correct me if I
> am wrong.
> 
> Mike
> 
> 
> On Tue, Mar 23, 2021 at 6:19 AM Charles Tropp  >
> wrote:
> 
>> Hi,
>> Last night my local ham club scheduled their first ever 6Meter Net and
>> Roundtable for 50.135Mz. I operate USB very rarely, preferring CW for all
>> of my Contesting and DX work. Last night the net control station advised me
>> that I was 12Hz too high and that he had to use his RIT control to tune to
>> me. When I turned on my XIT and transmitted down 12Hz I was right on his
>> frequency. This was confirmed by other callers as well. I have also heard
>> this problem mentioned in the past when checking into occasional 75M nets.
>> Is there an adjustment that I can or should make aside from using my XIT?
>> 
>> Thanks for any assistance you can provide.
>> 
>> --
>> *73, Charles N2SO*
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Re: [Elecraft] Different focus

[John Stengrevics]

Evert,

As one who suffers from such noise, I too look forward to such improvements.

The K4 will have a “subtractive” noise reduction/noise blanking algorithm that 
essentially subtracts noise form a signal being copied.  During the recent Zoom 
call, I was told it would be available in about 3 months.

I think you can find a demonstration of this on YouTube somewhere.  It is very 
impressive.

73,

John 
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 24, 2021, at 11:35 AM,   wrote:
> 
> For many years dynamic range and other receiver performance figures (see 
> Sherwood) and digital “features” like NB, NR, APF, Notch etc got a lot of 
> attention (which was good).
> 
> The transition from hardware to software opened a new world of possibilities.
> 
> But ….
> 
> Today, most of us are battling near-field man made noise instead of receiver 
> overload.
> 
> Reality tells us that this noise is not going to reduce the next decade or so.
> 
> Receivers will outperform competitors if they enable noise reduction and 
> improve S/N ratio.
> 
> This will be a combi of hardware (antenna’s and receivers) and smart software 
> solutions (algorithms etc.)
> 
> 
> 
> Just wondering if during the K4 design this “chance” was considered and if 
> so, how this was implemented ?
> 
> 
> 
> 73, Evert PA2KW
> 
> 
> 
> (waiting for the K4 kit)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Mac vs K3s - Again

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Richard,

I’ve never downloaded a driver to use my Mac with my K3S.

73,

John
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> On Jan 23, 2021, at 11:50 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> Working hard to wean my K3s off a SignaLink and connect it directly via a 
> standard A/B USB cable. Results have been frustrating but encouraging. The 
> particulars are these.
> 
> Mac mini
>   Late 2012
>   2.5 GHz Intel Core i5
>   8 GB RAM
>   Running 10.12.6 Sierra
> 
> K3s 100
> 
> I’m going to try replacing the probably out of date FTDI driver with a new 
> driver from SciLabs. Do I need to remove the old FTDI driver before 
> installing the new SciLabs driver?
> 
> NOTE: I have a grand old IC-706MkIIG now also running WSJT-X 2.2.2 through a 
> SignaLink with absolutely no problems. Assuming this setup uses the old FTDI 
> driver, dare I risk messing up that setup by changing to the new SciLabs 
> driver? I really don’t want to do that.
> 
> Replies here are fine but please CC me at flat...@comcast.net
> 
> Cheers!
> 
> Richard Kunc - W4KBX
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Re: [Elecraft] 2M internal Xverter now 3.5 kc lower

[John Stengrevics]

I have the high stability reference oscillator and External RefLock.  External 
oscillator in use and am 800 Hz low.

The directions I received from tech support required exposing a capacitor on 
the RefLock board and adjusting it.  Beyond my capabilities.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 16, 2020, at 10:47 AM, Randy Diddel  wrote:
> 
> Hi Ben,
> 
> I bought the K3s used and I am really not sure which TXCO I have. It is a 
> fairly loaded on so maybe-when I crack the case of the 10mHz RefLock module I 
> ordered last week, I will verify what I have. I have the 10mHz reflect module 
> on order as of last week but I have yet to hear anything about it shipping 
> from Elecraft.
> 
> The radio has been on all night sitting at 144.965.50 and the net was right 
> there this morning. I followed the instructions for installation of the 
> XVerter and the ref-lock and for over a month, the setup was working fine. 
> This just started Monday.
> 
> 73
> 
> K5RHD
> 
> /randy
> 
> 
> 
>> On Sep 16, 2020, at 8:41 AM, w4sc  wrote:
>> 
>> Randy,
>> 
>> I would be interested to know:
>> 
>> Do you have the high stability 49.380 MHz reference oscillator installed?
>> Do you have the 10 MHz RefLock option installed and enabled?
>> 
>> I see you have the 144MHz RefLock installed.  There is quite a procedure to 
>> install and enable this option.
>> 
>> I suggest as a test, power your radio on at least an hour before net. 
>> Movement of 3.5 KHz  is a lot.
>> 
>> I currently have my K3S at Elecraft for updating and installation of the 
>> KXV144 2 meter option and the 144MHz reflock.
>> 
>> 73 de Ben W4SC
>> 
>> Sent from Mail  for Windows 
>> 10
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 -- Spectral subtraction noise reduction

[John Stengrevics]

And, it will work on digital modes.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 11, 2020, at 6:30 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> You can’t really compare an NIR-12 to a more current implementation.  The 
> KiwiSDR algorithm runs on a BeagleBone processor with virtually no 
> discernible artifacts.  The artifacts were the achilles heel of the NIR-12.  
> I had one for a while.  Never liked it.
> 
> Presuming Elecraft delivers what they have said they’re working on, it will 
> be a great addition to the radio.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 3:23 PM, Tom Doligalski via Elecraft 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> Spectral subtraction was used in the JPS noise reduction units long ago. I 
>> still have my NIR-12. 
>> 
>> Tom W4KX
>> 
>> Sent from my iPad 
>> 
>>> On Sep 11, 2020, at 12:21 PM, Wes  wrote:
>>> 
>>> https://www.rtl-sdr.com/forum-talk-videos-from-hamvention-2017/ 51 minutes 
>>> in.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem

[John Stengrevics]

Skip,

I thought so.  However, one respondent said that if that was done, all the low 
band & 6 meter frequencies would be off, so I just had to live with it.  

Elecraft tech support emailed.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 12, 2020, at 12:50 PM, Skip Davis  wrote:
> 
> John, Isn’t that what the XVn OFS menu function is for? Try to set this to + 
> or - 0.800 which ever direction it is and see if that corrects you frequency 
> reading error. 
> 
> Skip Davis, NC9O
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference

[John Stengrevics]

Ben,

The K144XV & Phase lock calibration steps have already been performed.  The 
problem arises when using an external reference oscillator.  

Elecraft support emailed.

Thanks,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 7:14 PM, w4sc  wrote:
> 
> Read the following: 
>  
> K144XV manual pp20
> K144XV Reference Oscillator Phase Lock Option Manual. Pp 11
>  
> Once the K3S 49MHz oscillator is calibrated, leave alone.
>  
> The LOs (plural,,,116MHz and 118MHz) are locked to the 10MHz reference 
> (which, depending where you are in the 2M band).  If there is no 10MHz 
> reference applied, keeping the desired accuracy may be impossible over a 
> range of temperature.
>  
> You should be able to attain +- 10Hx accuracy according to the K144XV 
> manuals.  If the 800Hz error cannot be corrected by the procedure outlined, I 
> suggest contact Elecraft support.
>  
> Ben W4SC
>  
> Sent from Mail  for Windows 10

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Henk,

Thanks for that info.  That does make me think I could adjust the offset on the 
Config menu to account for the 800 Hz, no?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 2:18 PM, Henk de Vries  wrote:
> 
> Hi john,
> 
> Correction of the frequency for HF/6 takes place at synthesizer/DSP level 
> (Elecraft has not answered my questions where exactly) and takes the 
> frequency deviation of the main TCXO into account. So this does not correct 
> the TCXO itself.
> 
> The 2 meter K144RFLK locks directly to the main TCXO. As said, this frequency 
> cannot be corrected. 
> 
> The 2 meter transverter does not "communicate" with the rest of the K3 as 
> well so no correction on synthesizer/DSP level takes place and any TCXO 
> frequency deviation will show up on 2 meters.
> The 800 Hz cannot be corrected.
> 
> You could change the TCXO by a more accurate one.
> 
> 73 Henk
> PA0C
> 
> Henk
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, Aug 11, 2020 at 2:21 PM +0200, "John Stengrevics" 
> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency.  The resulting 
> frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters.  However, on 2 
> meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low.
> 
> The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency 
> but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate).  There 
> is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator.
> 
> I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss.  I would 
> appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Mike,

Yes, the Phase Lock option is installed according to instructions from 
Elecraft.  But, I am 800 Hz off.

73.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Aug 11, 2020, at 10:51 AM, Mike Harris  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Can we assume that the K144XV Oscillator Phase Lock (option) is installed. It 
> works for me.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Mike VP8NO
> 
> On 11/08/2020 09:20, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency.  The resulting 
>> frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters.  However, on 2 
>> meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low.
>> The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency 
>> but that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate).  
>> There is no procedure given for calibration with an external reference 
>> oscillator.
>> I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss.  I would 
>> appreciate any suggestions.
>> 73,
>> John
>> WA1EAZ

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[Elecraft] K3S & 2m Internal Transverter Calibration Problem Using External Reference

[John Stengrevics]

I am using an external reference to lock the K3S' frequency.  The resulting 
frequency is 100% accurate on the low bands and on 6 meters.  However, on 2 
meters, the frequency is approximately 800 Hz low.

The manual states that using an external reference will lock the frequency but 
that it will be somewhat less accurate (not 800 Hz less accurate).  There is no 
procedure given for calibration with an external reference oscillator.

I suppose I could play with the offset, but that seems hit or miss.  I would 
appreciate any suggestions.

73,

John
WA1EAZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K-4 and Expo

[John Stengrevics]

  I don’t have an extremely noisy QTH, but noisy enough that it keeps me from 
successfully working EME on 6 meters with my K3S.  So, effective noise 
reduction on digital modes could be a game changer for me.

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On Aug 9, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Victor Rosenthal 4X6GP  
> wrote:
> 
> Eric said the same in the K4 demonstration video.
> 
> 73,
> Victor, 4X6GP
> Rehovot, Israel
> Formerly K2VCO
> CWops no. 5
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>> On 09/08/2020 20:09, Jstengrevics wrote:
>> Wayne seemed to say that noise reduction would be effective on digital modes 
>> as well as CW & SSB.  Do I have that correct?
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> Sent from my iPad
 On Aug 9, 2020, at 12:35 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> On 8/9/2020 6:35 AM, Art Suberbielle wrote:
 Did Elecraft answer the big question-When will they start shipping the K-4?
>>> 
>>> Hi Art,
>>> 
>>> It's all governed by what they can do during COVID. including what they can 
>>> get from their vendors.
>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Can't Hear My Sending CW on K3S

[John Stengrevics]

Yup…I’m good…all is fine.  :)

> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:51 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> Have you turned up MONitor volume ….??
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
> 
> 
> 
>> On Jul 16, 2020, at 2:36 PM, Doug Daniels  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm having the same issue with the KX2, what would be the adjustment on
>> that? Is that the Transmit Gate?
>> 
>> On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 1:03 PM John Stengrevics 
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> When I send CW on my K3S, I cannot hear it either on the speaker or
>>> phones.  As most probably are, I am dependent on the auditory feedback to
>>> send CW properly.
>>> 
>>> I suspect I have a setting wrong.
>>> 
>>> Any advice would be much appreciated.
>>> 
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[Elecraft] Can't Hear My Sending CW on K3S

[John Stengrevics]

When I send CW on my K3S, I cannot hear it either on the speaker or phones.  As 
most probably are, I am dependent on the auditory feedback to send CW properly.

I suspect I have a setting wrong.

Any advice would be much appreciated.

73,

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Re: [Elecraft] I'm building a personal email list....

[John Stengrevics]

Opt Out

> On Jun 20, 2020, at 11:03 AM, Jim Sheldon  wrote:
> 
> Ken,
> Exactly as Gwen Patton said, CONTACT list fine as my email address is also on 
> QRZ but if you are starting a reflector.  Do NOT put my email address in 
> automatically.  IF I don't have the prerogative to OPT-OUT, I want no part of 
> it.
> 
> Jim, W0EB
> 
> 
>> I'm confused. Do you mean a personal CONTACT list, or a mailing list like
>> the Elecraft reflector?
>> 
>> If it's the former, I don't mind if you associate my address with, say, my
>> call sign, so you can contact me if you need to. That's because you could
>> look me up on QRZ and find my email address. It's no big deal.
>> 
>> But if you mean a REFLECTOR, including me in mass mailings, then I'll have
>> to say no, thank you. If you want to have a reflector of your own, I
>> strongly suggest that you make it opt-in, not opt-OUT. I get hundreds
>> of emails a day, and need to choose the reflectors I subscribe to very
>> carefully.
>> 
>> So if you just mean your contact list in your email program, I don't see
>> any harm in it. But please don't jam-cram me into an email reflector. I
>> would prefer being told about what it might offer, and make the informed
>> choice to join it or not. I hope you will understand.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Gwen, NG3P
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S dead after attempted firmware update - Fixed

[John Stengrevics]

Agree.  Macs don’t have this problem.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jun 7, 2020, at 4:44 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> That would be a terrible way to handle updates.  If a user has set specific 
> parameters to meet their needs, Windows should simply leave them alone — 
> unless they no longer exist in the updated version, or their effect/context 
> has changed.  If macOS reset everything to defaults every time there was new 
> version, Apple would find my several Macs in front of the nearest Apple 
> Store,  “kitted out” with a sledge hammer .. :-)
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On Jun 7, 2020, at 4:21 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
>> 
>> Since Microsoft does not know of every piece of software, on every Windows 
>> computer in the world, for simplicity, very often a Windows update will set 
>> values to DEFAULT values.  Therefore, it is necessary for the user to set 
>> certain parameters to their preferred values after an update.I view that 
>> this is no fault of Windows, it is just the way they handle updates.
>> Unless one is very familiar with the in-depth operation of Windows,  it is 
>> wise for anyone to make notes of values, locations and they way one access 
>> certain application settings.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Bob, K4TAX
>> 
>> On 6/7/2020 2:48 PM, barry halterman wrote:
>>> This is a classic case of CRE or Cosmic Ray Effect. No reason, just happens.
>>> 
>>> On Sun, Jun 7, 2020, 1:51 PM Ian Kahn, NV4C  wrote:
>>> 
 Ray,
 
 By any chance did your first computer receive any updates from Microsoft
 recently? MS updates are well-known to completely bugger custom
 settings, including COM port settings.
 
 Just a thought.
 
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[Elecraft] Tech Support - I Appreciate the Difficulty...

[John Stengrevics]

of the current situation, but wow…

I have been going back and forth with tech support via email (which of course 
is half the problem) for 3 weeks now.  I send an email, it gets passed to the 
K3S expert, he gets a garbled message, I get a response that makes no sense, I 
send another message, it gets passed along, I get another response that makes 
no sense, and on and on ad infinitum.

John
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Re: [Elecraft] New Astron Switching PS RFI?

[John Stengrevics]

Has anyone encountered noise on 50 MHz with the Elecraft/Powerwerx power supply 
for the K3S?

Thanks & 73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 18, 2020, at 2:51 PM, K9FD  wrote:
> 
> I had two of them and both had RFI,  on 12 meter band,  it was a broadband 
> noise of
> S2 or so.   If your noise level is higher than S3 then you may not even 
> notice it as it
> was noise similar to the noise floor, as wide as the band.
> Had other "spots" on other bands that had hash but not too bad.
> Have tried many switchers and every one I have had put noise someplace,  if 
> you mention
> that on this reflector all you get is a tirade of people with S5 to S6 band 
> noise levels
> screaming they hear nothing,  they are correct they hear nothing.
> Elecraft even admits the switcher they sell has noise.
> I have a very very low external noise level at this QTH, so linear supplies 
> are the only way
> I am sure to be free of noise, birdies, and crap internally. YMMV
> Merv K9FD
>> EME on 6m,  terrestrial on 2 & 432 with antennas directly above the shack. 
>> Noise floor very low (usually) so anything added very apparent. I haven’t 
>> noticed anything at HF.
>> 
>> The only problems I’ve had at HF were a particular model of Samsung monitor, 
>> and PGE powerlines where HV ran on the old ceramic insulators. K6TU’s 
>> recommendation to file complaints with PUC was effective in getting those 
>> replaced.
>> 
>> These SS-30M supplies have been around a long time. Do others report RFI 
>> problems?
>> 
>> 73
>> Josh W6XU
>> 
>> Sent from my mobile device
>> 
>>> On May 18, 2020, at 10:30 AM, Jim Brown  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Sounds like it's quiet on the bands where you do EME. What bands are 
>>> those?  Anything on HF?
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC
>>> 
 On 5/17/2020 9:47 PM, Josh Fiden wrote:
 Only when the moon’s at the same heading!
 Shack is E of array which is on about 25’ of Rohn 45, so bottom antennas 
 are quite low.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Many thanks David for your patience.

I have to say, that without your expert assistance, I was dead in the water.  

73,

John
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> On May 12, 2020, at 2:14 PM, John Stengrevics  
> wrote:
> 
> David,
> 
> Yes!  Window > Default Position worked!
> 
> I then sent all new files to the K3S.
> 
> So, I guess I am done?
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 2:09 PM, David Fleming  wrote:
>> 
>> John, on the menu at the top of the screen, click Window --> Set to Default 
>> Position. See if that restores the window.
>> 
>> David, W4SMT
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> 
>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 02:01:19 PM EDT, John Stengrevics 
>>  wrote: 
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> If I try to click on anything in the Utility pane, it immediately disappears.
>> 
>> The lower box shows:
>> 
>> Elecraft K3 Utility OS X Rev 1.19.9.6
>> OS X Version 10.15.4
>> K3 MCU Revision 05.60. RS - 232 Speed 38400 bps
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

David,

Yes!  Window > Default Position worked!

I then sent all new files to the K3S.

So, I guess I am done?

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 2:09 PM, David Fleming  wrote:
> 
> John, on the menu at the top of the screen, click Window --> Set to Default 
> Position. See if that restores the window.
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> 
> -
> 
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 02:01:19 PM EDT, John Stengrevics 
>  wrote: 
> 
> David,
> 
> If I try to click on anything in the Utility pane, it immediately disappears.
> 
> The lower box shows:
> 
> Elecraft K3 Utility OS X Rev 1.19.9.6
> OS X Version 10.15.4
> K3 MCU Revision 05.60. RS - 232 Speed 38400 bps
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

David,

If I try to click on anything in the Utility pane, it immediately disappears.

The lower box shows:

Elecraft K3 Utility OS X Rev 1.19.9.6
OS X Version 10.15.4
K3 MCU Revision 05.60. RS - 232 Speed 38400 bps

John
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> On May 12, 2020, at 1:47 PM, David Herring  wrote:
> 
> Right click on said icon in the icon bar and choose “Show all windows”  — the 
> Utility’s main pane should appear alone in the middle of your screen and you 
> should then be able to click on it and use it.
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:41 AM, John Stengrevics > <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Yes, the K3 icon appears on the icon bar with a dot beneath it.  Clicking it 
>> makes K3 Utility appear at the top of the screen.  Unfortunately, there’s 
>> nothing useful there.
>> 
>> John
>> WA!EAZ
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:37 PM, David Herring >> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It feels like the utility pane is just simply “hidden” (one can do that 
>>> with command-h, why one would want to I don’t know ;-). ) Anyway, when the 
>>> Utility is running, is there an icon with a dot under it in the icon bar 
>>> (presumably) at the bottom of your screen? If there is, click on it and see 
>>> if that would bring the Utility pane up.
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:25 AM, John Stengrevics >>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David,
>>>> 
>>>> The “About” pane does show up.  It offers the user to read the agreement, 
>>>> but NOT to agree.
>>>> 
>>>> The Utility pane does NOT show up.
>>>> 
>>>> Tried it from Applications but, same result.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:21 PM, David Herring >>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, from these answers we can deduce that the app is actually running. 
>>>>> The question is where the pane is...
>>>>> 
>>>>> John, I’ve had this happen to me before on other things…so launch the 
>>>>> utility, go up to the top and under Elecraft K3 Utility, and choose 
>>>>> “About K3 Utility”
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does the “About" pane show up anywhere? And does it bring with it the 
>>>>> actual utility pane with it, by chance? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like I say, this has happened before where opening something else in an 
>>>>> app makes the app show up.  Worth a shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding location of the app, yes it absolutely should be in 
>>>>> Applications, but I just launched mine from Downloads and it still works. 
>>>>> But moving it to Applications would be well advised.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman >>>>> <mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know guys.  It starts up fine here. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Macbook Pro 2018, i7, latest Catalina.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jack W6FB 
>>>>>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>>>>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  N5DCH
>>>>>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>>>>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>>>>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on 
>>>>>>> usb serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  W4SMT
>>>>>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About 
>>>>>>> K3 Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>>>>>> I’ve rebooted countless times

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

There it is!  Let me try it now.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 1:47 PM, David Herring  wrote:
> 
> Right click on said icon in the icon bar and choose “Show all windows”  — the 
> Utility’s main pane should appear alone in the middle of your screen and you 
> should then be able to click on it and use it.
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:41 AM, John Stengrevics > <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> Yes, the K3 icon appears on the icon bar with a dot beneath it.  Clicking it 
>> makes K3 Utility appear at the top of the screen.  Unfortunately, there’s 
>> nothing useful there.
>> 
>> John
>> WA!EAZ
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:37 PM, David Herring >> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It feels like the utility pane is just simply “hidden” (one can do that 
>>> with command-h, why one would want to I don’t know ;-). ) Anyway, when the 
>>> Utility is running, is there an icon with a dot under it in the icon bar 
>>> (presumably) at the bottom of your screen? If there is, click on it and see 
>>> if that would bring the Utility pane up.
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:25 AM, John Stengrevics >>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> David,
>>>> 
>>>> The “About” pane does show up.  It offers the user to read the agreement, 
>>>> but NOT to agree.
>>>> 
>>>> The Utility pane does NOT show up.
>>>> 
>>>> Tried it from Applications but, same result.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:21 PM, David Herring >>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> OK, from these answers we can deduce that the app is actually running. 
>>>>> The question is where the pane is...
>>>>> 
>>>>> John, I’ve had this happen to me before on other things…so launch the 
>>>>> utility, go up to the top and under Elecraft K3 Utility, and choose 
>>>>> “About K3 Utility”
>>>>> 
>>>>> Does the “About" pane show up anywhere? And does it bring with it the 
>>>>> actual utility pane with it, by chance? 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Like I say, this has happened before where opening something else in an 
>>>>> app makes the app show up.  Worth a shot.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regarding location of the app, yes it absolutely should be in 
>>>>> Applications, but I just launched mine from Downloads and it still works. 
>>>>> But moving it to Applications would be well advised.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman >>>>> <mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I don’t know guys.  It starts up fine here. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Macbook Pro 2018, i7, latest Catalina.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>>> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>>>>>> questions:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jack W6FB 
>>>>>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>>>>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  N5DCH
>>>>>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>>>>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>>>>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on 
>>>>>>> usb serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> David  W4SMT
>>>>>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About 
>>>>>>> K3 Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>>>>>> I’ve rebooted countless times
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> John
>>

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

David,

Yes, the K3 icon appears on the icon bar with a dot beneath it.  Clicking it 
makes K3 Utility appear at the top of the screen.  Unfortunately, there’s 
nothing useful there.

John
WA!EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 1:37 PM, David Herring  wrote:
> 
> It feels like the utility pane is just simply “hidden” (one can do that with 
> command-h, why one would want to I don’t know ;-). ) Anyway, when the Utility 
> is running, is there an icon with a dot under it in the icon bar (presumably) 
> at the bottom of your screen? If there is, click on it and see if that would 
> bring the Utility pane up.
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:25 AM, John Stengrevics > <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> David,
>> 
>> The “About” pane does show up.  It offers the user to read the agreement, 
>> but NOT to agree.
>> 
>> The Utility pane does NOT show up.
>> 
>> Tried it from Applications but, same result.
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:21 PM, David Herring >> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> OK, from these answers we can deduce that the app is actually running. The 
>>> question is where the pane is...
>>> 
>>> John, I’ve had this happen to me before on other things…so launch the 
>>> utility, go up to the top and under Elecraft K3 Utility, and choose “About 
>>> K3 Utility”
>>> 
>>> Does the “About" pane show up anywhere? And does it bring with it the 
>>> actual utility pane with it, by chance? 
>>> 
>>> Like I say, this has happened before where opening something else in an app 
>>> makes the app show up.  Worth a shot.
>>> 
>>> Regarding location of the app, yes it absolutely should be in Applications, 
>>> but I just launched mine from Downloads and it still works. But moving it 
>>> to Applications would be well advised.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> David - N5DCH
>>> 
>>>  
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman >>> <mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I don’t know guys.  It starts up fine here. 
>>>> 
>>>> Macbook Pro 2018, i7, latest Catalina.
>>>> 
>>>> Grant NQ5T
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM, John Stengrevics >>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>>>> questions:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Jack W6FB 
>>>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>>>> 
>>>>> David  N5DCH
>>>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on usb 
>>>>> serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>>>> 
>>>>> David  W4SMT
>>>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About K3 
>>>>> Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>>>> I’ve rebooted countless times
>>>>> 
>>>>> Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:31 PM, David Fleming >>>>> <mailto:df...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi John,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Does the K3 Utility menu appear at the top of the screen when you double 
>>>>>> click the app? Are you sure you’re clicking on the actual app and not 
>>>>>> the .ZIP file?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Have you tried a reboot? The most current version (1.19.9.6) should run 
>>>>>> fine on Catalina. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> David, W4SMT
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:23 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>>>> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> 
>>>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.
>>>>>

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

David,

The “About” pane does show up.  It offers the user to read the agreement, but 
NOT to agree.

The Utility pane does NOT show up.

Tried it from Applications but, same result.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 1:21 PM, David Herring  wrote:
> 
> OK, from these answers we can deduce that the app is actually running. The 
> question is where the pane is...
> 
> John, I’ve had this happen to me before on other things…so launch the 
> utility, go up to the top and under Elecraft K3 Utility, and choose “About K3 
> Utility”
> 
> Does the “About" pane show up anywhere? And does it bring with it the actual 
> utility pane with it, by chance? 
> 
> Like I say, this has happened before where opening something else in an app 
> makes the app show up.  Worth a shot.
> 
> Regarding location of the app, yes it absolutely should be in Applications, 
> but I just launched mine from Downloads and it still works. But moving it to 
> Applications would be well advised.
> 
> 73,
> 
> David - N5DCH
> 
>  
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:06 AM, Grant Youngman > <mailto:ghyoung...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> 
>> I don’t know guys.  It starts up fine here. 
>> 
>> Macbook Pro 2018, i7, latest Catalina.
>> 
>> Grant NQ5T
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:58 PM, John Stengrevics >> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>> questions:
>>> 
>>> Jack W6FB 
>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>> 
>>> David  N5DCH
>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on usb 
>>> serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>> 
>>> David  W4SMT
>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About K3 
>>> Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>> I’ve rebooted countless times
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> WA1EAZ
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:31 PM, David Fleming >>> <mailto:df...@yahoo.com>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> Does the K3 Utility menu appear at the top of the screen when you double 
>>>> click the app? Are you sure you’re clicking on the actual app and not the 
>>>> .ZIP file?
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried a reboot? The most current version (1.19.9.6) should run 
>>>> fine on Catalina. 
>>>> 
>>>> David, W4SMT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:23 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> 
>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve emailed tech support again (twice yesterday) - not holding my breath.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:06 PM, David Herring >>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just downloaded the K3 Utility version 1.19.9.6 from the Elecraft 
>>>>> website. I installed it on my macOS Catalina machine, double clicked it 
>>>>> and it ran just fine. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Initially I thought I had recreated your problem, in that when I 
>>>>> double-clicked seemingly nothing happened,  but I discovered that there 
>>>>> is a “click to accept license terms and conditions” pane that appears 
>>>>> under everything else on the desktop. Once I found that and accepted 
>>>>> their terms, the app popped right up. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you just installed this app, maybe dig around under things to see if 
>>>>> it’s waiting for input from you somewhere. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Otherwise, a quick note to Elecraft support may be in order.  Also I 
>>>>> think the author of the app may monitor this reflector and might respond 
>>>>> at some point if we don’t get it going for you before long.
>>>>> 
>&g

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Good to have the experts on board!

I moved the K3 Utility from Downloads to Applications.  No luck.. Double click 
and same result.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 1:15 PM, Grant Youngman  wrote:
> 
> That shouldn’t really matter … I just downloaded a fresh copy, and ran it 
> straight from the Downloads folder.
> 
> Grant NQ5T
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 1:12 PM, Jack Brindle via Elecraft 
>> mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> What directory is the app located in? If on the desktop, move it to the 
>> Applications folder. In Catalina certain directories are restricted - you 
>> have to give permission to access files there. This sounds like the app is 
>> unable to access some of its resources.
>> 
>> By the way, you have two of us who are associated with Elecraft involved 
>> now. W4SMT is the application author. He knows the app inside and out.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Jack, W6FB
>> 
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:58 AM, John Stengrevics  
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your 
>>> questions:
>>> 
>>> Jack W6FB 
>>> Version 1.19.9.6
>>> Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing
>>> 
>>> David  N5DCH
>>> Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click 
>>> Open, the app appears on the dock
>>> Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on usb 
>>> serial - A503xyao at 38400 bps
>>> 
>>> David  W4SMT
>>> The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About K3 
>>> Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
>>> I’ve rebooted countless times
>>> 
>>> Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.
>>> 
>>> John
>>> WA1EAZ
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:31 PM, David Fleming >>> <mailto:df...@yahoo.com> <mailto:df...@yahoo.com 
>>>> <mailto:df...@yahoo.com>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi John,
>>>> 
>>>> Does the K3 Utility menu appear at the top of the screen when you double 
>>>> click the app? Are you sure you’re clicking on the actual app and not the 
>>>> .ZIP file?
>>>> 
>>>> Have you tried a reboot? The most current version (1.19.9.6) should run 
>>>> fine on Catalina. 
>>>> 
>>>> David, W4SMT
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:23 PM, John Stengrevics 
>>>> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> 
>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi David,
>>>> 
>>>> That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.
>>>> 
>>>> I’ve emailed tech support again (twice yesterday) - not holding my breath.
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 12:06 PM, David Herring >>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com 
>>>>> <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just downloaded the K3 Utility version 1.19.9.6 from the Elecraft 
>>>>> website. I installed it on my macOS Catalina machine, double clicked it 
>>>>> and it ran just fine. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Initially I thought I had recreated your problem, in that when I 
>>>>> double-clicked seemingly nothing happened,  but I discovered that there 
>>>>> is a “click to accept license terms and conditions” pane that appears 
>>>>> under everything else on the desktop. Once I found that and accepted 
>>>>> their terms, the app popped right up. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If you just installed this app, maybe dig around under things to see if 
>>>>> it’s waiting for input from you somewhere. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Otherwise, a quick note to Elecraft support may be in order.  Also I 
>>>>> think the author of the app may monitor this reflector and might respond 
>>>>> at some point if we don’t get it going for you before long.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> David - N5DCH
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:29 AM, John Stengrevics >>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net 
>>>>>> &l

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Thanks to all for taking the time to help.  Here are answers to your questions:

Jack W6FB 
Version 1.19.9.6
Several times it showed ”initiatializing” then nothing

David  N5DCH
Yes, warned about running something downloaded from the web.   I click Open, 
the app appears on the dock
Right click on the app:  Elecraft K3 Utility V1 19.9.6 -S/N 10755 on usb serial 
- A503xyao at 38400 bps

David  W4SMT
The K3 Utility menu appears but there is very little under it:  About K3 
Utility, Services, Hide, Quit
I’ve rebooted countless times

Any other suggestions would be much appreciated.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 12:31 PM, David Fleming  wrote:
> 
> Hi John,
> 
> Does the K3 Utility menu appear at the top of the screen when you double 
> click the app? Are you sure you’re clicking on the actual app and not the 
> .ZIP file?
> 
> Have you tried a reboot? The most current version (1.19.9.6) should run fine 
> on Catalina. 
> 
> David, W4SMT
> 
> 
> On Tuesday, May 12, 2020, 12:23 PM, John Stengrevics 
> mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> 
> Hi David,
> 
> That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.
> 
> I’ve emailed tech support again (twice yesterday) - not holding my breath.
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
> > On May 12, 2020, at 12:06 PM, David Herring  > <mailto:david.n5...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > I just downloaded the K3 Utility version 1.19.9.6 from the Elecraft 
> > website. I installed it on my macOS Catalina machine, double clicked it and 
> > it ran just fine. 
> > 
> > Initially I thought I had recreated your problem, in that when I 
> > double-clicked seemingly nothing happened,  but I discovered that there is 
> > a “click to accept license terms and conditions” pane that appears under 
> > everything else on the desktop. Once I found that and accepted their terms, 
> > the app popped right up. 
> > 
> > If you just installed this app, maybe dig around under things to see if 
> > it’s waiting for input from you somewhere. 
> > 
> > Otherwise, a quick note to Elecraft support may be in order.  Also I think 
> > the author of the app may monitor this reflector and might respond at some 
> > point if we don’t get it going for you before long.
> > 
> > 73,
> > David - N5DCH
> > 
> > 
> >> On May 12, 2020, at 9:29 AM, John Stengrevics  >> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net 
> >> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>> wrote:
> >> 
> >> Thanks Bill.  That’s really odd.  It won’t run on my MacBook Pro with 
> >> Catalina same as yours.  
> >> 
> >> I assume you just double click it?
> >> 
> >> 73,
> >> 
> >> John
> >> WA1EAZ
> >> 
> >>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, William Hammond  >>> <mailto:a...@me.com> <mailto:a...@me.com <mailto:a...@me.com>>> wrote:
> >>> 
> >>> Hi John, I have an oldish iMac but the latest OS software; 10.15.4, 21.5 
> >>> Late 2013, 2.9 MHZ I5, it runs the utility just fine.  I tested it just 
> >>> before this email , where I discovered there is a new load that requires 
> >>> a gain adjustment on the K3s for six meters.  I downloaded it and 
> >>> installed it and made the gain adjustment.
> >>> 
> >>> The utility is 1.19.9.6, Sept 12, 2019, not the same version as the 
> >>> Windows utility.
> >>> 
> >>> Just to let you know it will work great..
> >>> 
> >>> 73, Bill-AK5X
> >>> 
> >>>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:33 AM, John Stengrevics  >>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net 
> >>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>> wrote:
> >>>> 
> >>>> Further to my earlier email:  The Utility does not run.  Perhaps 
> >>>> incompatible with the latest MacOS Catalina?
> >>>> 
> >>>> John
> >>>> WA1EAZ
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Begin forwarded message:
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> From: John Stengrevics  >>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net 
> >>>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>>
> >>>>> Subject: K3S Firmware Update for Mac
> >>>>> Date: May 12, 2020 at 8:55:33 AM EDT
> >>>>> To: Elecraft Mailer  >>>>> <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net> <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net 
>

Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Hi David,

That box asking to accept terms doesn’t come up for me.

I’ve emailed tech support again (twice yesterday) - not holding my breath.

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 12:06 PM, David Herring  wrote:
> 
> I just downloaded the K3 Utility version 1.19.9.6 from the Elecraft website. 
> I installed it on my macOS Catalina machine, double clicked it and it ran 
> just fine. 
> 
> Initially I thought I had recreated your problem, in that when I 
> double-clicked seemingly nothing happened,  but I discovered that there is a 
> “click to accept license terms and conditions” pane that appears under 
> everything else on the desktop. Once I found that and accepted their terms, 
> the app popped right up. 
> 
> If you just installed this app, maybe dig around under things to see if it’s 
> waiting for input from you somewhere. 
> 
> Otherwise, a quick note to Elecraft support may be in order.  Also I think 
> the author of the app may monitor this reflector and might respond at some 
> point if we don’t get it going for you before long.
> 
> 73,
> David - N5DCH
> 
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 9:29 AM, John Stengrevics > <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Bill.  That’s really odd.  It won’t run on my MacBook Pro with 
>> Catalina same as yours.  
>> 
>> I assume you just double click it?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On May 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, William Hammond >> <mailto:a...@me.com>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi John, I have an oldish iMac but the latest OS software; 10.15.4, 21.5 
>>> Late 2013, 2.9 MHZ I5, it runs the utility just fine.  I tested it just 
>>> before this email , where I discovered there is a new load that requires a 
>>> gain adjustment on the K3s for six meters.  I downloaded it and installed 
>>> it and made the gain adjustment.
>>> 
>>> The utility is 1.19.9.6, Sept 12, 2019, not the same version as the Windows 
>>> utility.
>>> 
>>> Just to let you know it will work great..
>>> 
>>> 73, Bill-AK5X
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:33 AM, John Stengrevics >>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Further to my earlier email:  The Utility does not run.  Perhaps 
>>>> incompatible with the latest MacOS Catalina?
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>>>> 
>>>>> From: John Stengrevics >>>> <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>>
>>>>> Subject: K3S Firmware Update for Mac
>>>>> Date: May 12, 2020 at 8:55:33 AM EDT
>>>>> To: Elecraft Mailer >>>> <mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
>>>>> Cc: donw...@embarqmail.com <mailto:donw...@embarqmail.com>
>>>>> 
>>>>> I have downloaded the latest K3S Utility.  However, I don’t see an option 
>>>>> for updating firmware on the Utility.  
>>>>> 
>>>>> I’m probably overlooking something simple.  Appreciate any suggestions.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 73,
>>>>> 
>>>>> John
>>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Thanks Bill.  That’s really odd.  It won’t run on my MacBook Pro with Catalina 
same as yours.  

I assume you just double click it?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 12, 2020, at 11:12 AM, William Hammond  wrote:
> 
> Hi John, I have an oldish iMac but the latest OS software; 10.15.4, 21.5 Late 
> 2013, 2.9 MHZ I5, it runs the utility just fine.  I tested it just before 
> this email , where I discovered there is a new load that requires a gain 
> adjustment on the K3s for six meters.  I downloaded it and installed it and 
> made the gain adjustment.
> 
> The utility is 1.19.9.6, Sept 12, 2019, not the same version as the Windows 
> utility.
> 
> Just to let you know it will work great..
> 
> 73, Bill-AK5X
> 
>> On May 12, 2020, at 8:33 AM, John Stengrevics  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Further to my earlier email:  The Utility does not run.  Perhaps 
>> incompatible with the latest MacOS Catalina?
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> Begin forwarded message:
>>> 
>>> From: John Stengrevics 
>>> Subject: K3S Firmware Update for Mac
>>> Date: May 12, 2020 at 8:55:33 AM EDT
>>> To: Elecraft Mailer 
>>> Cc: donw...@embarqmail.com
>>> 
>>> I have downloaded the latest K3S Utility.  However, I don’t see an option 
>>> for updating firmware on the Utility.  
>>> 
>>> I’m probably overlooking something simple.  Appreciate any suggestions.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> John
>>> WA1EAZ
>> 
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[Elecraft] Fwd: K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Further to my earlier email:  The Utility does not run.  Perhaps incompatible 
with the latest MacOS Catalina?

John
WA1EAZ

> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Stengrevics 
> Subject: K3S Firmware Update for Mac
> Date: May 12, 2020 at 8:55:33 AM EDT
> To: Elecraft Mailer 
> Cc: donw...@embarqmail.com
> 
> I have downloaded the latest K3S Utility.  However, I don’t see an option for 
> updating firmware on the Utility.  
> 
> I’m probably overlooking something simple.  Appreciate any suggestions.
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ

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[Elecraft] K3S Firmware Update for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

I have downloaded the latest K3S Utility.  However, I don’t see an option for 
updating firmware on the Utility.  

I’m probably overlooking something simple.  Appreciate any suggestions.

73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 S-meter characteristics

[John Stengrevics]

Agree completely.  I find all S meters to be totally inaccurate and next to 
useless, including my K3S’.  

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 7:43 AM, Morgan Bailey  wrote:
> 
> Maybe it is just me but, Turn the radio on, adjust the audio/rf/agc
> controls, hear the station, work him, move on. I dont need a fancy dbm or
> an iconic number of engineering controls, to say what the dbm was when I
> worked the guy. When you contest, who the hell cares, hear him, work him,
> move on. In simple terms, I just want selectivity, and no agc pumping and
> no front in desensing from a 40 db over nine station 2khz away.
> 
> Im looking forward to a quiet front end, that keeps me from having to
> listen to 48 hours of static that is generated by the stages with in the
> radio. Love my K3S, great radio. Simple to operate once you learn its
> controls and never has failed me.
> 
> Looking forward to K4 delivery.
> 
> Vy 73,
> Morgan Bailey NJ8M
> 
> 
> 
> On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 11:33 PM Al Lorona  wrote:
> 
>> Now that the K4 has exact knowledge of its gains and losses through the
>> preamps, attenuators, splitters, bandpass filters and so forth, could this
>> enable an alternate way of visualizing the receiver's range? This alternate
>> measurement would be quite useful in setting the controls optimally for any
>> situation.
>> 
>> Imagine a scale -- I suppose it would be in dBm -- showing the K4's total
>> dynamic range. Say it's 100 dB in total. The lowest point is the minimum
>> discernable signal (MDS); the highest point is the damage level, or if
>> that's a bit too frightening, call it the maximum ADC level or something
>> else to denote it as a Level Not To Be Exceeded.
>> 
>> Since the K4 will know not only what the noise floor of the band you're
>> listening to is, but the absolute value of that level in dBm, the scale can
>> be annotated with a dynamic marker to show where the band noise falls in
>> that 100 dB range. I'm calling it 'dynamic' because it'll vary a few dB as
>> band noise does, but it will sit at a calibrated level, relatively
>> motionless on the scale as Wayne described the S-meter doing.
>> 
>> As the operator kicks in more gain by turning on preamps or turning up the
>> RF Gain, the scale shifts downward by the same amount. For instance, if the
>> scale was showing -120 to -20 dBm -- a 100 dB range -- and then the
>> operator turns on a 10 dB preamp, the scale must change to -130 to -30 dBm,
>> because the preamp has made the receiver more sensitive while also reducing
>> the max permissible level.
>> 
>> Conversely, if the operator turned on 10 dB of attenuation, then the scale
>> would shift upward to -110 to -10 dBm, indicating clearly that sensitivity
>> is being sacrificed for greater large signal handling capability. The noise
>> floor, being a relative constant, would move closer to the bottom of the
>> window, or rather, the window would move relative to the noise floor in
>> such a way as to place it 10 dB closer to the bottom end.
>> 
>> So actually, as I'm thinking about this, the meter wouldn't move at all.
>> It's the noise marker that would float higher and lower within the window
>> as you varied the controls, just as on an S-meter. I guess what I'm
>> describing here is more or less an S-meter calibrated in dBm!
>> 
>> But perhaps the best reason for looking at the receiver this way would be
>> to tune the controls precisely for a given noise floor. Twenty meters, with
>> its -120 dBm noise floor, will require one combination of preamps and/or
>> attenuators. On 80 meters, if the noise is, say, -100 dBm, the operator
>> knows (because he can see the graphic) exactly how much attenuation is
>> acceptable while still keeping the band noise marker in the operating
>> range. It would behoove the operator to keep the noise floor marker near
>> the bottom to 1) give him the maximum dynamic range under those conditions,
>> and 2) to avoid becoming "my K4 is noisy" guy.
>> 
>> Presumably, as each K4 goes through RF calibration at the factory it will
>> know exactly the gain of each preamp, attenuator, filter, and splitter in
>> its path. The scale could be custom for each individual unit, although I
>> wouldn't want to start any "my K4 is more sensitive than yours" wars.
>> 
>> I leave it to the programmers to decide on the specific eye candy of such
>> a readout. I for one would find this type of meter fun and useful in
>> getting a mental picture of where in dynamic range space the receiver is
>> sitting.
>> 
>> Can anybody see any flaws in this idea? I can foresee at least one. I
>> don't know how the front end of the K4 will work, but if it is constantly
>> moving the receiver range in response to what it hears, that is, in
>> response to the total amount of power incident on its antenna port, then
>> perhaps that might pose a real challenge to giving this type of feedback to
>> the user. I don't know.
>> 
>> Al  W6LX
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft K3s, etc. bonding

[John Stengrevics]

My tower grounds are my house grounds.  All hardline is separately grounded 
though individual rods and tied to the house ground.  My transceiver is tied to 
the house ground.

I seriously doubt tying other equipment to that ground will reduce noise levels 
at all, not to speak of the difficulty of trying to tie my laptop to same.  I 
operate primarily 6 meters.

To confirm this, I have recently used a portable spectrum analyzer with a near 
field antenna to look for noise sources in the house.  Not only does my 
equipment produce no noise, nothing else in the house does either.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 24, 2020, at 2:18 AM, Rick Bates, NK7I  wrote:
> 
> And in the meantime, lightning protection helps to reduce the noise and risks 
> of 'everyday' static noise sources like wind, snow, blowing dust and even 
> rain static.  HELPS, not removes.
> 
> Having (last fall) just installed a basic dissipation system, the difference 
> can be quite startling and can allow one to hear a LOT better.  My noise 
> floor also dropped from 10-35 dB with an average of 20 dB the moment I tied 
> it into the existing house safety grounds.  And that was not only increased 
> safety but was cheaper than most low band reception arrays (which I'll add as 
> well). 'New' DX; SCORE!
> 
> Just as any other station feature, one can continue to enhance or upgrade 
> lightning protection and bonding over time until there is less return than 
> cost expended.
> 
> One more often forgotten note:  ALL wiring coming into a building, must be 
> bonded to the common safety ground; satellite dishes, telephone/DSL wires, 
> cable TV... ALL of them or lightning will 'find a way' to ruin your day.
> 
> Rick NK7I
> 
> 
> On 4/23/2020 10:44 PM, Vic Rosenthal wrote:
>> Serious lightning protection is something else, and can be very expensive. 
>> But although bonding the equipment won’t protect you against direct 
>> lightning strikes, it does help to keep everything at the same potential and 
>> reduce the possibility of damage from less violent static discharges.
>> 
>> Victor 4X6GP
>>  
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Re: [Elecraft] KAouT3A Question

[John Stengrevics]

If I had one, I would certainly give it a try!  I am trying to decide if I 
should buy one.

John 
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 8:23 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Why not try it. 
> 
> The KAT3(a) can tune many a strange antenna. 
> 
> It seems so easy to hook up the antenna and tap the button to see if it works 
> instead of typing a query here and getting many responses. A lot of which 
> will suggest “Try it and see. “
> 
> Good luck. 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Apr 11, 2020, at 5:08 PM, John Stengrevics  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My 6 meter antenna reads an SWR of 10:1 on 10 meters.  The KAT3A specs 
>> suggest it can tune that degree of mismatch.  Is it reasonable to think that 
>> the KAT3A could match my antenna well enough for 10 meters?
>> 
>> Thanks & 73,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
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Re: [Elecraft] KAT3A Question

[John Stengrevics]

I would if I had one!  😁

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 11, 2020, at 5:15 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> Why don't you tap the ATU TUNE button and see what happens?
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 4/11/2020 5:06 PM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> My 6 meter antenna reads an SWR of 10:1 on 10 meters.  The KAT3A specs 
>> suggest it can tune that degree of mismatch.  Is it reasonable to think that 
>> the KAT3A could match my antenna well enough for 10 meters?

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[Elecraft] KAT3A Question

[John Stengrevics]

My 6 meter antenna reads an SWR of 10:1 on 10 meters.  The KAT3A specs suggest 
it can tune that degree of mismatch.  Is it reasonable to think that the KAT3A 
could match my antenna well enough for 10 meters?

Thanks & 73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft CW Net Report

[John Stengrevics]

Cycle 25 sunspots have been appearing with increasing regularity:  
https://www.youtube.com/user/SpWxfx 

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 7, 2020, at 1:11 PM, Fred Jensen  wrote:
> 
> There have been a small handful of high latitude, Cycle 25 polarity spots 
> show up.  Most haven't lasted long enough to get #'s assigned but it's a good 
> sign.  All you ever want to know about the sun can be found at solarham.com
> 
> 73,
> Fred ["Skip"] K6DGW
> Sparks NV DM09dn
> Washoe County
> 
> On 1/6/2020 9:16 PM, Keith N6JPA wrote:
>> Not according the space weather gal!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 1/6/2020 5:15 PM, Bill Johnson wrote:
>>> I don't think sun spot cycle is here yet. The observers haven't noted the 
>>> tell-tale sign of the spots reversing polarization.  The cycles don't run a 
>>> calendar from what I have learned and because this cycle is one of lowest 
>>> in recorded history, possible we won't see the change from now until 2021.  
>>> Once the expected polarization happens then that should be the beginning.  
>>> But at least we have experienced a couple.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Bill
>>> K9YEQ
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 YouTube Video List by Date

[John Stengrevics]

Max,

Perhaps my fault for being less clear than I should have been.  

As I said to another person who replied to me, my interest is almost 
exclusively in 6 meter DX.  So, what is important to me (and perhaps not to 
that many others) is better NB particularly on EME where I am currently limited 
in the size of array I can put up (currently 9 element LFA with no elevation).  
And, more sensitivity can only help.

I am not debating at all that the new platform will have many capabilities 
beyond those of the K3S.  But, they may be less of interest to me for my 
specific needs and interests.  And, I applaud the Elecraft team for advancing 
the state of the art.  

73,

John
WA1EAZ

On Dec 23, 2019, at 1:36 PM, M. George  wrote:
> 
> John, that's the beauty of it all... you can play now (or rather in the near 
> future) or you can wait and decide for yourself after all the ‘glorious 
> independent reviews come in' (grump around like the Grumpy Old K3 Grinch who 
> stole Christmas). "When I was a young man we used a K3 or a K3S and by golly 
> we loved it" You young whipper snappers with your new fangled K4 gizzo 
> radios! :)  Is someone making you upgrade to a K4?  Twisting your arm? You 
> totally missed the point.
> 
> The K4 isn't ONLY about the receiver specs... maybe for you so you have no 
> choice but to wait...  I get it...  However if that was the case, then you 
> would have bought some other transceiver that has already exceeded some of 
> the K3S's specs. No? The point here is that there is far more to the new 
> platform than receiver specs alone and the potential truly leaves the 
> exhausted K3's processing and now static capabilities in the dust (Elecraft 
> is moving on whether you like it or not... that ship has already sailed!). 
> Plus sensitivity is only as good as the noise floor your antenna system 
> provides... I'm not aware of an HF antenna system that provides a ~-133dBm to 
> -145dBm MDS noise floor.  So sensitivity is all relative to your antenna 
> system.  Blocking dynamic range is far more important to me.  It's time for 
> Elecraft to move on to a platform they can build on.  I'm sure many will 
> shake their fist in the air, weep and wail and gnash their teeth, holding on 
> to the K3s for years and years to come (a testament to K3 success), but many 
> will be excited for what the K4 will bring and are willing to go along for 
> the ride right from the start.
> 
> You can stomp your feet and do what you like...bark at the moon and pound 
> sand and continue to stick with the K3 until the end of times, nothing wrong 
> with that... try to convince yourself that the creators of the K3 can't do 
> any better.  I'm in the camp that they have already done better and I want to 
> go along for that ride.  Doing better includes far more capabilities than 
> dropping the MDS by a few dBm what will net nothing. Onward and upward I 
> say... it's exciting to see that there is and continues to be a market to 
> keep pushing the envelope in the HF transceiver market.
> 
> Max NG7M
> 
> On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Stengrevics  <mailto:jstengrev...@comcast.net>> wrote:
> POTENTIALLY better NR & NB will have to wait for hard data and independent 
> reviews.
> 
> And, this will absolutely determine whether or not I transition from the K3S 
> to the K4 (along with improved sensitivity).
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
> > On Dec 23, 2019, at 9:43 AM, M. George  > <mailto:m.matthew.geo...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> > 
> > It's not surprising that there many looking for all the information they
> > can get on the K4 etc.. Here is a YouTube link that lists K3 related
> > video 'Search
> > for Elecraft K4 Sorted by Date for Video posted this year'
> > <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D
> >  
> > <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D>>
> > :
> > https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D
> >  
> > <https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D>
> > 
> > Just use the filter option in YouTube in this case to narrow down the
> > videos to the latest postings based on the search criteria to get the
> > latest video by date.
> > 
> > The first video in this list contains a lot of detail at 38 minutes long
> > (Eric). (ELECRAFT K4 IN DEPTH with WA6HHQ at Waters & Stanton Ltd
> > Portsmouth UK).  Take the time and watch the whole video... there is a lot
> > of detail in this one.
> > 
> > For the questions that seem to per

Re: [Elecraft] K4 YouTube Video List by Date

[John Stengrevics]

POTENTIALLY better NR & NB will have to wait for hard data and independent 
reviews.

And, this will absolutely determine whether or not I transition from the K3S to 
the K4 (along with improved sensitivity).

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Dec 23, 2019, at 9:43 AM, M. George  wrote:
> 
> It's not surprising that there many looking for all the information they
> can get on the K4 etc.. Here is a YouTube link that lists K3 related
> video 'Search
> for Elecraft K4 Sorted by Date for Video posted this year'
> 
> :
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D
> 
> Just use the filter option in YouTube in this case to narrow down the
> videos to the latest postings based on the search criteria to get the
> latest video by date.
> 
> The first video in this list contains a lot of detail at 38 minutes long
> (Eric). (ELECRAFT K4 IN DEPTH with WA6HHQ at Waters & Stanton Ltd
> Portsmouth UK).  Take the time and watch the whole video... there is a lot
> of detail in this one.
> 
> For the questions that seem to persist about how the K4 will compare to the
> K3... you quickly begin to understand that the receiver specs will be
> similar to the K3S, especially once you understand the K4 design approach
> with the hyrbird direct sampling approach and superhet addition in the
> K4HD.  At the same time, I'm not going to underestimate the potential for
> some eye popping numbers when the K4HD module is introduced. (think
> Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced rankings).  However if the specs
> are similar to the K3S or even a little better, it's becoming more clear to
> me that the K4 platform and it's future potential with advances and
> refinements in the software are where the real advantages are.  Big leaps
> here over the K3S.  Leaps that the K3S can simply never take do to the
> limited processing power.  The K3 and K4 are not even in the same league in
> this area.
> 
> You also begin to see the much higher potential the K4 has as far as noise
> reduction / noise blanking capability due to algorithms having access to a
> much wider bandpass with the SDR direct sampling approach.  Just my
> opinion, but I suspect there will be some big improvements in these areas
> as compared to the K3/S line.  The speed of the processing power and access
> to bandwidth will allow for better noise reduction etc... plus the software
> improvements over time and head room for processing power sets up the K4
> for some big performance leaps improvements are made in software (IMHO).
> You can glean all of this from the videos (reading between the lines) in my
> opinion. i.e. Elecraft potentially adding the capability with diversity
> receive to do phase shifting to null out noise, similar to the capability
> you get with a NCC-2 box for example.  And consider the design approach to
> upgrade the ADC processing... the K4 seems to be setup for a long life with
> some interesting improvements down the road, not only with the software,
> but think hardware processing upgrades too.
> 
> I can't speak for anyone else, but since the K4 has been announced I have
> gone through a phase of trying to convince myself that the K4 isn't any
> better than my K3S, so why would I consider a K4?  ($4K to $6K for a new
> rig sure isn't chump change and could be spent on other station
> improvements right?) As far as some of the tell-tell specs like dynamic
> range blocking with strong signals near your band-pass etc... I think with
> the K4HD, the specs will be similar, but overall, what is beginning to
> interest me is the amazing potential the K4 design has.  We are talking
> about two very different animals here. (with the same linage)
> 
> I have also spent a considerable amount of time looking at the direct
> sampling competitors and as I start to dig in, I'm really seeing some
> lacking features as they relate to a CW operator's rig.  I guess I'm biased
> as a current Elecraft Fan-Boy / CW operator (I'll admit it), but when I
> look at what I would be giving up in regard to CW operating features that
> have become second nature to me, I think I would be very disappointed. If
> you spend some time in the competitors user groups you will understand what
> I'm talking about, but that's just me.  Owners in these other groups have
> been begging for some common CW features that never seem to materialize.
> However competition is good and it's great to have options.  You can't go
> too wrong with any of the high end rigs these days, including any of the
> direct sampling designs that are shipping now.
> 
> So to end this tome of a post... if I had to place an order today for a new
> rig, it would be a an order for a K4.  Wink / wink, maybe I already did.
> ;)  And if I did, I'm happy to wait X number of months for the K4 to emerge
> only when it is ready for prime time.  My trusty K3S at my side as I type
> away at the keyboard here will make the w

Re: [Elecraft] NB/NR for K4 vs K4D

[John Stengrevics]

And, versus the K3S.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Dec 22, 2019, at 11:38 PM, Drew AF2Z  wrote:
> 
> I'm not overly anxious about the K4 initial release date because I'll be 
> waiting for the kit version. But in choosing between a K4 and K4D I'm 
> wondering how much performance difference there is in NB/NR for the two 
> models. It could be significant, no?
> 
> 73,
> Drew
> AF2Z
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Re: [Elecraft] TCXO drift and calibration

[John Stengrevics]

Gary,

I had the same problem.  After 3 years, I had to replace the TCXO which had 
clearly become defective.

I still need to recalibrate periodically.

I don’t operate HF, so hearing WWV is sometimes difficult.  A good way to 
calibrate is to have a local, who is dead-on calibrated, send CQ on FT8.  You 
can adjust the ref cal to get it right.

73,

John
WA1EAZ 

> On Dec 6, 2019, at 2:24 PM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> To add a little to what Wes said:
> 
> The K3 TCXO rest freq is 49,380 KHz.  It is a temperature corrected 
> oscillator so will still drift with radio warm up but less than a 
> non-compensated oscillator.So best to calibrate after at least 30-minutes 
> warmup.  If you have the 100w model K3, there will be some temperature drift 
> when transmitting (varies with mode and frequency band).
> 
> I have the EXREF installed with the TCXO-03 and that holds my 50-MHz signal 
> within 3 Hz.  But if you check the TCXO frequency (CONFIG: REF CAL) you will 
> see the frequency drift.  Mine seems to top out at about 49.380.090 and then 
> hold within a few .001.
> 
> The EXREF takes the need for periodic re-calibration away.  But your 10-MHz 
> reference needs to be very accurate/stable.  I use a surplus OCXO that needs 
> re-calib about every 4-6 months (usually only 1-Hz drift).  My OCXO runs 24/7 
> to avoid warm up drift.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 73, Ed  - KL7UW
> 
> From: "Gary Peterson" 
> To: 
> Subject: [Elecraft] TCXO drift and calibration
> Message-ID: 
> Content-Type: text/plain;   charset="iso-8859-1"
> 
> Last February, I purchased a factory assembled K3S including a 1 ppm TCXO.  
> The transceiver is serial number 11803 and the firmware was updated on May 
> 5th of this year.
> 
> Last July, I noticed that many of the signals on 50.125 MHz sounded as if 
> they were a bit off frequency as they were higher pitched.  This led me to 
> believe that the reference oscillator may have drifted, possibly due to 
> crystal aging.
> 
> Subsequently, I used method 2 and WWV, as described on page 53 of the 
> Elecraft K3S manual.  The REF CAL frequency was lowered from 49.999.996 to 
> 49.379.448.  That seemed to make the signals on the 6 meter calling frequency 
> sound like they should.
> 
> A few days ago, I caught a six meter opening and signals on 50.125 sounded 
> higher pitched again.  I repeated the reference oscillator calibration again, 
> using method 2.  Now, the REF CAL frequency is set to 49.379.110.  I have not 
> had the opportunity to hear any six meter signals, since I changed the 
> reference oscillator.
> 
> I am wondering if the REF CAL frequency change that I have seen in less than 
> a year is normal, or whether I have a TCXO problem.
> 
> Any thoughts would be most appreciated.  Thanks in advance for any time taken 
> to reply.
> 
> Gary, K0CX
> Rapid City, SD
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] K-4 features

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Wayne,

Do you have any information about:

1.  Sensitivity or noise floor of the K4 relative to the K3S?

2.  Noise blanking and noise reduction effectiveness relative to the K3S?  In 
the regard, will noise reduction be disabled on digital modes as does the K3S?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Nov 10, 2019, at 3:33 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> 
>> Art Suberbielle  wrote:
>> 
>> Wondering if the K-4 will remember settings of RF/AF gain per band?
> 
> Hi Art,
> 
> RF gain and squelch are per-band, per-receiver, as are the preamp and 
> attenuator controls. 
> 
> There's an AF gain control for each receiver that applies to all bands. 
> 
> 
>> Also, what amount of reduction in db will the Attenuation provide?
> 
> Attenuation ranges from 0 to 21 dB in 3 dB steps. There are also three preamp 
> settings per band (off, 1, 2).
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Turnbuckle Threads

[John Stengrevics]

Oops…I meant galvanized.  Just not stainless.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Nov 2, 2019, at 11:09 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX  wrote:
> 
> Rohn tower hardware is hot dipped galvanized steel.  I'd take their knowledge 
> over any "tower guy" or any other person for that matter.
> 
> Remember, your tower and perhaps someones life may depend on your tower 
> hardware, use and installation.
> 
> 73
> 
> Bob, K4TAX
> 
> 
> On 11/2/2019 9:59 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> My tower guy says stainless is too brittle.  Use anodized instead.
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Richard:
>>> 
>>> If you are asking about anti-seize, I use Nickle anti-seize on stainless
>>> hardware, even in Aluminum.
>>> What is your environment? Are you near salt water? What are your
>>> temperature extremes?
>>> I am in a dry climate so Aluminum - Stainless Steel galvanic corrosion is
>>> not a big issue.
>>> 
>>> John:
>>> 
>>> What is the reason to not use stainless steel if properly rated for the
>>> load?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> 
>>> Mark
>>> W7MLG
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 7:27 AM John Stengrevics 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I would not use stainless.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> John
>>>> WA1EAZ
>>>> 
>>>>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Richard  wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> For stainless steel/stainless steel turnbuckles being used on guys
>>>> ropes, what’s the best stuff with which to protect the threads?
>>>> 
>>>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Turnbuckle Threads

[John Stengrevics]

My tower guy says stainless is too brittle.  Use anodized instead.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:56 AM, Mark Goldberg  wrote:
> 
> Richard:
> 
> If you are asking about anti-seize, I use Nickle anti-seize on stainless
> hardware, even in Aluminum.
> What is your environment? Are you near salt water? What are your
> temperature extremes?
> I am in a dry climate so Aluminum - Stainless Steel galvanic corrosion is
> not a big issue.
> 
> John:
> 
> What is the reason to not use stainless steel if properly rated for the
> load?
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> Mark
> W7MLG
> 
> 
> On Sat, Nov 2, 2019 at 7:27 AM John Stengrevics 
> wrote:
> 
>> I would not use stainless.
>> 
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Richard  wrote:
>>> 
>>> For stainless steel/stainless steel turnbuckles being used on guys
>> ropes, what’s the best stuff with which to protect the threads?
>> 
>> 
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Re: [Elecraft] Turnbuckle Threads

[John Stengrevics]

I would not use stainless.


John
WA1EAZ



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> On Nov 2, 2019, at 10:17 AM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> For stainless steel/stainless steel turnbuckles being used on guys ropes, 
> what’s the best stuff with which to protect the threads?
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Richard Kunc - W4KBX
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 CW Text Decoding

[John Stengrevics]

In my experience, it only works on a big signal, which is when you don’t need 
it.

John
WA1EAZ

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> On Oct 8, 2019, at 2:11 AM, B Deuby  wrote:
> 
> I am unable to get the Text Decode function on my K3 to produce accurate 
> results. I have employed the tweaks suggested in the K3 manual, but the text 
> produced bears little resemblance to the code that was sent. 
> 
> Ordinarily I would ascribe a problem like this to operator error - but I 
> don’t think that this is the case. 
> 
> Any suggestions and/or observations would be appreciated. 
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Brian, K8GRR 
> 
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[Elecraft] K3S Frequency Calibration Issue

[John Stengrevics]

I have followed the calibration procedure in the manual (WWV as I don’t have a 
frequency generator).  On 50 MHz, I am spot on.  However, on 2 meters, I am off 
by 1 KHz.

I have recently replaced the TCXO, so I don’t believe that is the cause. 

Any suggestions as to how I can get 2 meters to agree?

73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] (no subject)

[John Stengrevics]

A bit off topic, but I thought I’d ask anyway.  Would using a HA1YA 6 meter 
transverter with the K3S improve performance on noise level reduction and 
sensitivity over the stock K3S?

73,

John
WA1EAZ



> On Jul 5, 2019, at 3:17 PM, Conrad PA5Y  wrote:
> 
> Hello Ed, the HA1YA and DB6NT transverters are also considerably better than 
> the DEMI designs which are 3 generations behind. I have been in serious 
> pursuit of low PN and low IMD on 144 and 432 and I found that either of the 
> aforementioned transverters with a K3S were many times better than anything 
> else. I looked at almost everything out there, it took 2 years but there 
> really was no other choice. There used to be 3 choices but sadly the Anglian 
> (144) and Iceni (432) kits from G4DDK are no longer an option, on 70cms I 
> have an Iceni. With the K3S , Iceni and a TV TX I am achieving TX 3rd orders 
> of -53dBc, I am so pleased with this. The composite noise @ 20kHz is 33dBc/Hz 
> better than any other radio that I have measured. On 2m 25dB better for 
> composite noise I am still working on 2m intemods, so far the whole chain is 
> -40dbc 3rd orders but I would like to improve this by at least 6dB, the 
> problem is an LDMOS driver and nothing to do with the K3S or HA1YA 
> transverter.
> 
> I have a bit more to say about the K3S and TX IMD on 6m in another post.
> 
> Regards
> 
> Conrad PA5Y
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net  On 
> Behalf Of Edward R Cole
> Sent: 05 July 2019 18:02
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] (no subject)
> 
> Kjeld,
> 
> I agree with Conrad PA5Y,  both Kuhne Engineering or  HA1YA make very good 
> transverters and are available in EU.
> 
> I would add the DEMI L-series transverter which now is made by a company 
> called Q5 (located in US) for any NA hams reading the mail on this topic.
> I use DEMI transverters on digital-eme on 144, 1296, and higher (have had 
> 144,222, 432, 1296, 3456, and 10-GHz models).
> 
> I also use preamps located at antennas on 6m, 2m, 432, 1296+  Even though 
> local electronic noise can be high at times, when its not they make a huge 
> difference.  Only for 6m (50-MHz) would I agree that it might not give much 
> help (but if you have a K3, it needs either a PR6 or other preamp to bring up 
> 6m &10m sensitivity; not an issue with K3s or K4).  MY KX3 with internal 
> preamp ON = my K3 + PR6 in sensitivity on 6m)
> 
> The early reports on the IC-9700 were not favorable for freq stability 
> (though I read they had addressed this, lately).  Still investment in K3s + 
> good transverter will beat the IC-9700 without a doubt.
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
> 
> From: Kjeld Holm 
> To: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: [Elecraft] Digital modes on 144MHz only
> Message-ID:
> 
> 
> 
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
> 
> Digital modes on 144MHz only
> 
> I plan for a second station to use for digital modes on 144MHz only. 
> If you look at performance only (no price, no ergonomics, no use outside 
> digital modes on 144MHz) what would you prefer
> 
> 1)   K3/K3S with internal transverter
> 2)   IC-9700
> 
> In both cases I plan to use a 1kW amplifier.
> 
> Vy 73 de OZ1CCM, Kjeld
> 
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] More than you ever wanted to know about solar cycles

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The evidence has already made this article obsolete.  No grand minimum.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jun 24, 2019, at 9:55 PM, kevinr  wrote:
> 
> I found this paper and thought some of you would be interested. Warning: 
> things look grim from 2019 to 2055 since we'll be in a grand solar minimum.  
> Looks like the next three 11 year cycles will not be too good.  Better 
> prepare space for your 160 m antennas.
> 
> 
> Oscillations of the baseline of solar magnetic field and solar
> irradiance on a millennial timescale
> 
> https://www.nature.com/articles/s41598-019-45584-3
> 
> It does get a bit dry but the math is minimal.
> 
>GL,
> 
>   Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] The K4's new noise reduction

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Wayne,

The K3S’ NR algorithm is not operable on digital modes.  Will that be the case 
on the K4 as well?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 31, 2019, at 1:11 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> We've recently started testing a new DSP NR (noise reduction) algorithm for 
> the K4. Our early testers are saying it's as good or better than anything 
> else they've used, removing stochastic noise without the characteristic 
> "hollow" sound of earlier algorithms. In my own tests, I'm finding weak SSB 
> signals I simply couldn't copy without it. It goes beyond just reducing 
> listening fatigue. This type of NR operates in the frequency domain, like 
> spectral subtraction, but without the usual artifacts (musical tones) or long 
> sampling delays. 
> 
> Once the full implementation is complete, we'll post audio samples and 
> additional details.
> 
> (In answer to the inevitable question:  Unfortunately, we won't be able to 
> port this to the K3/K3S. The new algorithm requires the new, much faster DSP 
> chip we're using in the K4.)
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Wayne,

I think you answered someone else’s question!?

John
WA1EAZ

Sent from my iPhone

> On May 29, 2019, at 11:47 AM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:
> 
> Yes. Historically a significant percentage of our K2 and K3 buyers chose the 
> QRP model. In some cases operators use the radio as an IF for transverters, 
> etc.
> 
> 73,
> Wayne
> N6KR
> 
> 
> 
>> On May 29, 2019, at 4:15 AM, John Stengrevics  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hi Wayne & Eric,
>> 
>> I’ve asked this question twice already with no answer.  Perhaps it’s the way 
>> I phrased it.  So, let me ask it a different way:
>> 
>> 1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, 
>> it says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider 
>> bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance 
>> noise reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the 
>> K4 over the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?
>> 
>> 2.  Sensitivity:  Rob Sherwood’s transceiver test data shows the following 
>> sensitivity for the K3S (in microvolts):
>> 
>> 0.27
>> 0.20b <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
>> 0.0810 <http://www.sherweng.com/table.html#key>
>> 
>> b  Built-in preamp actuated
>> 10   10 meter data, preamp ON
>> 
>> How does the K4 compare with the K3S on this measure of sensitivity?  
>> 
>> 
>> Thanks in advance.
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>> 
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>> Sensitivity
>> (uV)
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
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[Elecraft] K4 Noise Blanking & Sensitivity - Again

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Wayne & Eric,

I’ve asked this question twice already with no answer.  Perhaps it’s the way I 
phrased it.  So, let me ask it a different way:

1.  Noise Blanking:  On the website, under K4 FAQ - Performance Differences, it 
says "In a direct-sampling radio like the K4, the DSP can “see” a wider 
bandwidth in its signal chain, allowing it to provide higher-performance noise 
reduction, noise blanking…”  Can you quantify the improvement of the K4 over 
the K3S regarding noise reduction and noise blanking?

2.  Sensitivity:  Rob Sherwood’s transceiver test data shows the following 
sensitivity for the K3S (in microvolts):

0.27
0.20b 
0.0810 

b  Built-in preamp actuated
10   10 meter data, preamp ON

How does the K4 compare with the K3S on this measure of sensitivity?  


Thanks in advance.

John
WA1EAZ





Sensitivity
(uV)

Sensitivity
(uV)
Sensitivity
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 Observations

[John Stengrevics]

Buck,

Did you happen to discuss:

1.  Noise blanker improvement

2.  Improvement in sensitivity

Relative to the K3S?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 18, 2019, at 11:09 PM, Buck  wrote:
> 
> The following is offered based on my observations and discussions at the 
> Elecraft booth.  I am *not* an official, or even unofficial, Elecraft 
> spokesman and stand willing to be corrected.
> 
> First, this is going to be another game-changer from Elecraft.  The radio 
> will have outstanding performance figures and an interface to die for.  The 
> screen is beautiful and functions can be controlled from either buttons or 
> the touch-screen.  There is band-stacking on the touch screen, a nit people 
> have complained about on the K3.
> 
> The radio is full SDR as opposed to the analog front end of the K3. However 
> an option, the K4HD, is a superhet receive function.  Like previous Elecraft 
> radios, this can be added later if you think you need it.  Preliminary is 
> that it will not be necessary unless you operate in the presence of strong 
> stations (multi-multi).
> 
> Another option has a second set of band pass filters and ADC module that will 
> allow the two receivers to operate on different bands or antennas (K4D).
> 
> The radio contains a Linux computer so all this magic does not require an 
> external computer except for logging or audio input. The rig will be 
> addressable locally or over the internet with no additional software.  I saw 
> it operated from an iPad and Android is coming.  The iPad screen looked 
> exactly like the front panel, including the panadapter.
> 
> There are multiple USB ports, an Ethernet port, RS232 and an HDMI port so you 
> can project the front panel, or parts of it, to an external monitor.  The 
> panadapter looks awesome on the external monitor and you will be able to 
> point and click to QSY the radio.
> 
> The prices are targets but I got the impression the final will be very close. 
>  The cost is less than a fully loaded K3s. The kit version will be cheaper 
> than factory-assembled and ship several months later to allow time to write 
> the assembly manual.  Target for the factory version is November.
> 
> I suspect the K4 will replace the K3 series as K3s sales are sure to suffer 
> because of product age and competition from the K4.  I did not hear any talk 
> about sun-setting the K3s when the K4 comes out.  I am sure there are many 
> people who will want to buy the basic K3s and upgrade over time (or not) 
> rather than plunk down $4,000 for the K4.
> 
> What does this do to the value of a K3 or K3s?  I expect there will be some 
> coming on the market.  Anyone who buys, or retains, a K3 or K3s will still 
> have one of the finest radios ever made.  We are at the point where the 
> difference among the top 5 or so on Sherwood's charts is a decibel or two, 
> almost within the margin of error and certainly beyond the ability of the 
> human ear to discern.  So, don't panic.  The demand for the K3 series will be 
> strong for many years to come.
> 
> Keep an eye on the website as more information comes from Watsonville.
> 
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K4

[John Stengrevics]

One of my two questions.  The other is regarding relative sensitivity/noise 
floor compared to the K3S.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On May 18, 2019, at 10:13 AM, K9MA  wrote:
> 
> I'm very satisfied with my K3, but one feature that might tempt me to buy a 
> K4 would be a really effective noise blanker. It seems to me that a direct 
> sampling receiver ought to be able to do this extremely well. It wouldn't 
> surprise me, though, if the software to do it isn't initially available.
> 
> 73,
> 
> Scott K9MA
> 
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[Elecraft] K4 Critical Aspects

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Wayne & Eric,

A very happy K3S owner here.

I am mostly interested in 6 meter DX operation.  So the critical aspects for me 
revolve around the following:

1.  Is the noise floor of the K4 lower than the K3S (is it more sensitive)?

2.  Is the noise blanking capability improved over the K3S?

Thanks!

John
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[Elecraft] K3S RIT Problem

[John Stengrevics]

I seem to be reading signals about 800 Hz high. 

I have cleared RIT.   I suspect I have hit some other setting by mistake.

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

73,

John
WA1EAZ
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Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

[John Stengrevics]

I would add to that:  Significantly improved noise blanking and noise reduction.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 25, 2019, at 1:08 AM, Martin Sole  wrote:
> 
> Well since you asked and made this sort of official, here's a few things, 
> though in no particular order of merit:
> 
> Integrated 7” (or bigger) panadaptor with touch screen.
> 
> ‘Proper’ band stacking registers.
> 
> Equal sized vfo knobs for A and B.
> 
> Individual mode buttons.
> 
> AGC, NB, NR all with front panel controls adjustable on the fly.
> 
> More digital mode integration, built in FT8 with up-gradable software as digi 
> modes develop.
> 
> Integrated PSU for 100-250 Vac.
> 
> 50V minimum PA.
> 
> Ground Breaking earth shattering TX IMD.
> 
> Using the built in touch screen full descriptive menu.
> 
> Bigger rotary controls with more space.
> 
> RF performance equal to or better than best of the best.
> 
> Modular design with bare bones to fully loaded capability.
> 
> PA options from 10 to 500 watts fully integrated with ATU (KPA500/KAT500).
> 
> I/Q output.
> 
> Proper base station radio without concern for portability (K3S is already the 
> leader there).
> 
> More extensive API giving ability to do literally everything the radio can do 
> from a computer.
> 
> Removeable head so the base radio can be remoted and the control head used 
> from where you need to be.
> 
> More ‘And’, less ‘Either or’ (Mic/Line selection level etc).
> 
> 
> Martin, HS0ZED
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 25/03/2019 07:14, Eric Swartz WA6HHQ - Elecraft wrote:
>> Inquiring minds want to know:
>> What would you all like to see as a “K4” ?
>> 
>> Eric
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Re: [Elecraft] Will there be a K4

[John Stengrevics]

Cardinal rule of business:  New products, new products, new products.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 24, 2019, at 7:28 PM, Michael Walker  wrote:
> 
> Will there be a K4?
> 
> It comes down to economics and the all mighty dollar.
> 
> Will hams buy enough radios for them to be economical to fund development,
> manufacturing and pay staff?
> 
> Economics 101.
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Problem - Frequency Jump

[John Stengrevics]

Thanks Bill.  Yes, that seems to have been the problem.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Mar 7, 2019, at 10:24 AM, Nr4c  wrote:
> 
> Check RIT/XIT. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
> 
> 
>> On Mar 6, 2019, at 9:24 PM, John Stengrevics  
>> wrote:
>> 
>> I have been using my K3S on WSJT-X without any problems.  Today, the 
>> frequency appears to have shifted .7 KHz low.  That is, if I were on 50.313 
>> MHz FT8, I now have to tune to 50.3137 to decode signals.
>> 
>> I would appreciate any suggestions.
>> 
>> Thanks,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
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[Elecraft] K3S Problem - Frequency Jump

[John Stengrevics]

I have been using my K3S on WSJT-X without any problems.  Today, the frequency 
appears to have shifted .7 KHz low.  That is, if I were on 50.313 MHz FT8, I 
now have to tune to 50.3137 to decode signals.

I would appreciate any suggestions.

Thanks,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] KPA-1500 failed!

[John Stengrevics]

Who uses PL-259s?  They suck.  I ordered my K3S with Ns and really should have 
specified DINs.  But, that is a retrofit project for another day.

John
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> On Feb 16, 2019, at 2:47 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 2/16/2019 9:39 AM, Bob McGraw K4TAX wrote:
>> Do not trust PL-259 connectors installed only "finger tight". Today many of 
>> those PL-259 connectors "look good" but are really poor quality connectors.
> 
> If you live in North America, the ONLY good PL-259 connector is one that 
> labeled Amphenol 83-1SP.  Most others are JUNK.  I'm told there are some 
> other decent brands sold in EU.
> 
>> ALWAYS snug the PL-259's with a pair of 4" channel lock pliers.
> 
> RIGHT. And always be VERY careful about how you solder them, especially the 
> shield.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Mac to use with KX3

[John Stengrevics]

Kiichiro-san,

Please contact Elecraft support:  supp...@elecraft.com 


73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 29, 2019, at 3:45 PM, Keith Onishi  wrote:
> 
> Hello,
> 
> I am Kiichiro Onishi, JH3SIF, having K3 with SN 07902.
> 
> I hoped my K3 had been shipped with 60m transmission disabled since my KX3 
> was shipped with 60m transmission disabled and your signed certification 
> indicating the disablement.
> As you may know, hams operating in JA are not allowed to transmit on 60m and 
> all TX/TRX MUST not be capable to transmit on the band,
> So, my K3 MUST have 60m transmission capability disabled so that I can have 
> regal permission to operate my K3 in JA.
> Can you help me to disable the 60m transmission?
> 
> 73 de JH3SIF, Kiichiro
> 
>> 2019/01/28 2:08、Steve Grimaud (Gmail) > >のメール:
>> 
>> I'm trying to find a good new or used Macbook or Mac mini to begin using 
>> with my KX3. I had used a PC with ASUS Xonar U7 and/or Signalink USB. What 
>> will I need to keep, drop or use in a different way to get a Mac unit 
>> working with my KX3? I'm especially interested in digital signals. Who here 
>> knows what works best.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Steve w3swg
>> 
>> -- 
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>> 240-753-5380
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Re: [Elecraft] Best Mac to use with KX3

[John Stengrevics]

?? I use a MacBook Pro (new).  just connect the Mac to my K3S via USB.  I 
imagine KX3 is the same.  That’s all there is to it.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 27, 2019, at 7:50 PM, James Bennett via Elecraft 
>  wrote:
> 
> Steve - I normally use an iMac (27”) here in the shack with WSJT-X and in the 
> past have flip-flopped between a KX3 and my K3. Sold the KX3 and now use a 
> KX2 alternately with the K3. In 2016 I took my KX3 to the southern 
> Philippines along with a MacBook Pro Retina and used it with WSJT-X. The 
> external audio “ sound card” I use is a Tascam US-125M. 
> 
> So, what you get will dictate what you’ll need to acquire, if anything. 
> Several years ago Apple made a change in their OS in how it handles USB-2. 
> Basically they screwed it up. And they are not inclined to fix it. From that 
> point on there have been a bazillion Mac users (including myself) that are 
> going along with digital modes working fine and all of a sudden, the audio 
> starts coming out the internal speakers instead of the sound card. Numerous 
> work-arounds are out there - the one I have been very successful with is to 
> change the sampling rate to 44,000. This issue, from what I’ve heard, does 
> not affect USB-3. If you get a relatively new Mac and it has USB-3, you’ll 
> probably be OK. My iMac does not, so I use USB-2 and 99.9% of the time I’m 
> OK. My MacBook Pro does not have USB-3, but it DOES have a Thunderbolt port. 
> I got a Thunderbolt to USB converter on Amazon and that took care of this 
> problem on the laptop.
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> p.s. - be sure you’ve got a beefy heatsink on that KX3 if you plan on running 
> it barefoot at 15 watts on digital. The one that came with my KX3 (serial 
> number 5539) wasn't up to the task and after a few minutes would fold back to 
> 5 watts. This was prior to FT8 - the JT65 and JT9 modes run for considerably 
> longer and do cause heat build-up. I eventually got a third-party heat sink 
> and never had a problem with fold-back afterwards.
> 
> 73, Jim / W6JHB
> 
> 
>> On   Sunday, Jan 27, 2019, at  Sunday, 9:08 AM, Steve Grimaud (Gmail) 
>>  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying to find a good new or used Macbook or Mac mini to begin using 
>> with my KX3. I had used a PC with ASUS Xonar U7 and/or Signalink USB. What 
>> will I need to keep, drop or use in a different way to get a Mac unit 
>> working with my KX3? I'm especially interested in digital signals. Who here 
>> knows what works best.
>> 
>> 73
>> 
>> Steve w3swg
>> 
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>> steve.grim...@gmail.com
>> 240-753-5380
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Re: [Elecraft] New DSP Idea

[John Stengrevics]

Given the increased noise levels most hams face, I emailed Wayne to ask if 
improved noise reduction & noise blanking were on their project list.  He said 
no.  So, any improvements are apparently a long way off.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jan 14, 2019, at 7:29 AM, Wes Stewart  wrote:
> 
> Lyle is retired here in Tucson.
> 
> Wes  N7WS
> 
> On 1/14/2019 3:00 AM, Bill W4ZV wrote:
>> David Gilbert wrote
>>> Yes, I agree that the computation needs to be done in the frequency
>>> domain with an FFT.  I have no clue whether or not the K3 and K3s have
>>> enough computational power to do so, but Lyle (Elecraft's DSP guru)
>>> briefly discussed this idea with me when I suggested it several years
>>> ago and he seemed to think it might be feasible.  At the time the K3
>>> synths wouldn't preserve lock when you changed frequency so it wouldn't
>>> have been very practical back then, but the new synths are fed by the
>>> same oscillator now.
>> You asked a good question Dave.  I recall Lyle telling me the same years ago
>> (where is Lyle anyway...buried in K4 firmware?).  I've used the NCC-1,
>> MFJ-1025 and ANC-4 over the years to phase parallel staggered Beverages.
>> This is probably beyond the processor in the K3 but it remains a good idea
>> to investigate for the K4.  The downside to phasing two identical antennas
>> internally is that you must give up diversity.  Using the NCC-1 output for
>> one input to the K3 diversity and a different antenna for the other allows
>> both simultaneously (but for two different purposes).
>> 
>> I'm afraid the market for users who want to do this sort of thing may be
>> small, but clearly there is a decent market for noise canceling devices.
>> BTW noise canceling boxes ONLY work well for canceling a single local noise
>> source which requires a nearby sense antenna for one input (groundwave only
>> since propagation introduces constantly shifting relative phase changes).
>> 
>> 73,  Bill  W4ZV
>> 
>> P.S.  The bottom 2 plots in the link below show what can be done by phasing
>> two parallel staggered Beverages:
>> http://users.vnet.net/btippett/new_page_10.htm
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[Elecraft] Fwd: 6m meteor scatter

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> Begin forwarded message:
> 
> From: John Stengrevics 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 6m meteor scatter
> Date: December 5, 2018 at 4:39:30 PM EST
> To: Wes Stewart 
> 
> MSK144 decodes FAR more efficiently than what is possible on CW or SSB,  Mind 
> you, there’s nothing wrong with those modes.  But digital works better.  
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
>> On Dec 5, 2018, at 2:44 PM, Wes Stewart  wrote:
>> 
>> Why not just use CW (or even SSB)?
>> 
>> Disclaimer.  I have zero experience with 6M MS.  That said, I have confirmed 
>> QSOs with every continental state west of the Mississippi and a few east on 
>> 2M MS (or tropo) :-)
>> 
>> Wes  N7WS
>> 
>> On 12/5/2018 12:08 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>>> While MS QSOs can be made with random CQing on 50.260, most are scheduled 
>>> via Ping Jockey or ON4KST chat. There's a learning curve to operating MS, 
>>> and QSOs via MS can take a while to complete. It's not unusual for it to 
>>> take 30 minutes for "rocks" to align in the space between QSO partners to 
>>> provide the reflections for pings that WSJT-X decodes to complete all the 
>>> steps of the QSO.
>>> 
>>> MS is NOT a good mode for QRP, and while QSOs can be made with 100W, more 
>>> power increases the likelihood of a good ping and shortens the time it 
>>> takes to complete.
>>> 
>>> If you're chasing grids on 6M, MS is a great way to fill in those that are 
>>> beyond the range of tropospheric propagation and too close for E-skip.  The 
>>> limit for MS is about 1,300 miles, and even that distance requires great 
>>> rocks, high power, decent antennas, great ops, and persistence.
>>> 
>>> MS is one of the propagation modes for which the exchange format and 
>>> progress of WSJT mode QSOs was developed, and it is rigidly followed.
>>> 
>>> 73, Jim K9YC 
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Disabling TX INHIBIT on K3S

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Tom,

I was told that.  All I can say is that there is no delay from the K3S when I 
transmit on WSJT-X.  I increased the delay to .3 seconds under ADVANCED in 
WSJT-X settings and the problem is solved.

73,

John
WA!EAZ

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 11:12 PM, Tom  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> WSJT-X does not touch TX Inhibit.
> The only command that WSJT-X sends is a TX; command to enter transmit mode or 
> it asserts DTR or RTS.  The same is true for Yaesu and Icom transceivers. Now 
> if the radio does this itself behind the scenes, that is another story. But 
> 100% for sure WSJT-X does not send the TX inhibit menu command.
> 73 Tom
> va2fsq.com
> 
> 
> -Original Message- From: John Stengrevics
> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2018 2:35 PM
> To: Elecraft Reflector
> Subject: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Disabling TX INHIBIT on K3S
> 
> I asked this question previously and was told that the WSJT-X would not 
> effect TX INHIBIT on the K3S.
> 
> In trying to confirm this just now, TX INHIBIT is clearly disabled when I 
> call CQ on FT8 digital mode.
> 
> Any thoughts?
> 
> John
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X Disabling TX INHIBIT on K3S

[John Stengrevics]

Don,

Thanks for that.  

Just in case anyone else asks, I thought you could only select .1 or .2 seconds 
delay under ADVANCED settings in WSJT-X.  It turns out, you can enter any delay 
you want.  So, problem solved.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Nov 13, 2018, at 2:54 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> Contact the WSJT-X developers to see if any command they issue would disable 
> K3 TX Inhibit. Since the exchange on FT8 is so rapid, my guess is that they 
> may very well disable TX Inhibit as a "safety" measure.
> 
> There is nothing about DATA A mode operation of the K3/K3S that would cause 
> TX Inhibit to be disabled.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 11/13/2018 2:35 PM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> I asked this question previously and was told that the WSJT-X would not 
>> effect TX INHIBIT on the K3S.
>> In trying to confirm this just now, TX INHIBIT is clearly disabled when I 
>> call CQ on FT8 digital mode.
>> Any thoughts?

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[Elecraft] WSJT-X Disabling TX INHIBIT on K3S

[John Stengrevics]

I asked this question previously and was told that the WSJT-X would not effect 
TX INHIBIT on the K3S.

In trying to confirm this just now, TX INHIBIT is clearly disabled when I call 
CQ on FT8 digital mode.

Any thoughts?

John
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[Elecraft] K3S TNX INHIBIT & WSJT-X

[John Stengrevics]

To provide enough time for relays protecting a preamp to switch, I have enabled 
TNX INHIBIT on the K3S.

Does anyone know if operating WSJT-X disables TNX INHIBIT or effects it in any 
way?

73,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25

[John Stengrevics]

That is precisely why I posted what I did.  People take somebody’s forecast and 
accept it.  Despite the progress made in understanding sunspot cycles, 
prediction is a very uncertain undertaking.

Take any prediction with a huge block of salt.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 3:14 PM, Dave Cole (NK7Z)  wrote:
> 
> Ted,
> Thanks for sharing that info...  Bad as it seems...  Hopefully it turns out 
> to be not what happens...
> 
> 73s and thanks,
> Dave (NK7Z/NNR0DC)
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> On 10/9/18 10:37 AM, Dauer, Edward wrote:
>> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very 
>> much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming 
>> sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported 
>> studies,  “ . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and 
>> will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could 
>> be the last solar maximum we’ll see for a few decades . . . .”  Guess I’d 
>> better gear up for FT8.
>> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full 
>> implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to 
>> the article.
>> Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] OT -- Sunspot Cycle 25

[John Stengrevics]

These predictions are completely uncertain.  Recent info presented by Tamitha 
Skov (space weather scientist) suggests the next cycle will not be delayed and 
will begin early 2019.

In a paper presented at Central States VHF, Jim Kennedy reviewed many studies & 
predictions and found that they differed by 115%.

In fact, nobody really knows.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Oct 9, 2018, at 1:37 PM, Dauer, Edward  wrote:
> 
> For those who do not take CQ magazine, there is an article this month very 
> much worth reading.  It summarizes recent findings about the forthcoming 
> sunspot cycle and its effect on propagation.  To quote from the reported 
> studies,  “ . . . the start of Cycle 25 could be delayed to 2021 or 2022 and 
> will be very weak, if it even happens at all . . . .  this (Cycle 24) could 
> be the last solar maximum we’ll see for a few decades . . . .”  Guess I’d 
> better gear up for FT8.
> 
> I personally cannot assess the quality of the research nor its full 
> implications.  Just thought I would alert others who may be interested to the 
> article.
> 
> Ted, KN1CBR
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Re: [Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

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Thanks Ed, I have Jim’s control board in the amp.  Just trying to figure out 
the connections.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 24, 2018, at 2:46 AM, Edward R Cole  wrote:
> 
> Since this is for 6m which kind of considered VHF, then use of a sequencer 
> should be considered.  With either K3 or K3S the last stage of the sequencer 
> can control TX INHIBIT control line of the K3/K3S which will delay RF output 
> into the PA until after LNA and TR relay switching has occurred.  W6PQL sells 
> both an amplifier control board with sequencing or separate sequencer:
> http://www.w6pql.com/v63control.htm
> http://www.w6pql.com/relay_sequencer.htm
> or from DEMI:
> http://01895fa.netsolhost.com/PDF/LTRS_PD.pdf
> 
> See:  http://www.kl7uw.com/TX-INHIBIT.htm
> 
> 73, Ed - KL7UW
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Re: [Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Don,

Ordinarily, the W6PQL amp’s control board does this via ALC on the exciter.  
But, since that is not an option with the K3S, setting TX DELAY on the K3S to 
20 milliseconds should do the trick.  That is what Jim, W6PQL, suggested I do.

I have been using the W6PQL amp with the K3S without any problems heretofore.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> There is TX Inhibit that will prevent RF from the K3 until that signal is 
> dropped.
> Of course, it requires a signal from the amplifier or sequencer to indicate 
> that it is ready for RF.
> 
> Trying to use ALC for that purpose is not a good idea.
> Does the amplifier control the high on ALC, or is that left to the exciter to 
> implement?
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 9/23/2018 11:29 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> That was timely as I just got off Skype with Jim, W6PQL.  He mentioned that 
>> the ALC should be held high for some milliseconds to allow for the amp’s 
>> relays to switch over thereby protecting the LNA.
>> 
>> Since the K3S works differently than most, he suggested that I look for an 
>> RF Hold-Off setting on the K3S and set it for around 50 milliseconds.  That 
>> being said, I don’t see that in the manual or in Fred’s book.  Any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> I do not understand how the amplifier or the ALC could protect the LNA.
>>> I assume the LNA is only used on receive, so if you have good sequencing 
>>> between receive and transmit, no damage could occur.
>>> ALC is only applicable to transmit, and Elecraft does not recommend using 
>>> ALC to limit the drive to the amplifier.  Set the power to the amp properly 
>>> and all will be well.
>>> Using ALC to control the exciter power is a bad way to do things, it will 
>>> only lead to distortion and spurious emissions from the amplifier.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>> On 9/23/2018 10:58 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>>>> My apologies - I should have added that I am using a Downeast Microwave 
>>>> DTR relay to take the LNA out of the line when voltage applied to the 
>>>> relay drops as a result of transmission.
>> 
> 

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Re: [Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

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Hi John,

Aha!  I see that now.  OK, I will follow the instruction in Fred’s book to set 
this.

Thanks & 73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:53 AM, John Simmons  wrote:
> 
> I think it is called TX DELAY. I know the setting is in there.
> 
> -John NI0K
> 
> John Stengrevics wrote on 9/23/2018 10:29 AM:
>> Hi Don,
>> 
>> That was timely as I just got off Skype with Jim, W6PQL.  He mentioned that 
>> the ALC should be held high for some milliseconds to allow for the amp’s 
>> relays to switch over thereby protecting the LNA.
>> 
>> Since the K3S works differently than most, he suggested that I look for an 
>> RF Hold-Off setting on the K3S and set it for around 50 milliseconds.  That 
>> being said, I don’t see that in the manual or in Fred’s book.  Any 
>> suggestions?
>> 
>> 73,
>> 
>> John
>> WA1EAZ
>> 
>>> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>>> 
>>> John,
>>> 
>>> I do not understand how the amplifier or the ALC could protect the LNA.
>>> I assume the LNA is only used on receive, so if you have good sequencing 
>>> between receive and transmit, no damage could occur.
>>> ALC is only applicable to transmit, and Elecraft does not recommend using 
>>> ALC to limit the drive to the amplifier.  Set the power to the amp properly 
>>> and all will be well.
>>> Using ALC to control the exciter power is a bad way to do things, it will 
>>> only lead to distortion and spurious emissions from the amplifier.
>>> 
>>> 73,
>>> Don W3FPR
>>> 
>>> On 9/23/2018 10:58 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>>>> My apologies - I should have added that I am using a Downeast Microwave 
>>>> DTR relay to take the LNA out of the line when voltage applied to the 
>>>> relay drops as a result of transmission.
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Re: [Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Don,

That was timely as I just got off Skype with Jim, W6PQL.  He mentioned that the 
ALC should be held high for some milliseconds to allow for the amp’s relays to 
switch over thereby protecting the LNA.

Since the K3S works differently than most, he suggested that I look for an RF 
Hold-Off setting on the K3S and set it for around 50 milliseconds.  That being 
said, I don’t see that in the manual or in Fred’s book.  Any suggestions?

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 23, 2018, at 11:12 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
> 
> John,
> 
> I do not understand how the amplifier or the ALC could protect the LNA.
> I assume the LNA is only used on receive, so if you have good sequencing 
> between receive and transmit, no damage could occur.
> ALC is only applicable to transmit, and Elecraft does not recommend using ALC 
> to limit the drive to the amplifier.  Set the power to the amp properly and 
> all will be well.
> Using ALC to control the exciter power is a bad way to do things, it will 
> only lead to distortion and spurious emissions from the amplifier.
> 
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
> 
> On 9/23/2018 10:58 AM, John Stengrevics wrote:
>> My apologies - I should have added that I am using a Downeast Microwave DTR 
>> relay to take the LNA out of the line when voltage applied to the relay 
>> drops as a result of transmission.

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Re: [Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

[John Stengrevics]

My apologies - I should have added that I am using a Downeast Microwave DTR 
relay to take the LNA out of the line when voltage applied to the relay drops 
as a result of transmission.

73,

John
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[Elecraft] Using A 6 Meter LNA & Amplifier with the K3S

[John Stengrevics]

I am installing an LNA at the feed point of my 6 meter antenna.  I also drive a 
W6PQL amplifier.

My reading of the manual, and Fred Cady’s book, suggests that no external ALC 
is necessary to protect the LNA.  Can someone using a similar set-up confirm 
this?  Or, suggest a procedure to follow if my interpretation is incorrect?

Thanks,

John
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Re: [Elecraft] Time Sync Program for Mac

[John Stengrevics]

Richard,

In System Preferences, input us.pool.ntp.org 

Works fine for my Mac.

73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Sep 17, 2018, at 10:13 PM, Richard  wrote:
> 
> What’s a good simple stand-alone application to keep my Mac’s clock razor 
> sharp for FT8?
> 
> I find that WSJT-X 1.8.0 is triggering my K3S’ transmitter up to a full 
> second late sometimes, typically 0.5 second late.
> 
> Cheers!
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Re: [Elecraft] New owner with New K3S kit need help?

[John Stengrevics]

Sorry - spell check strikes again:

2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF IN on the K144XV with Reference 
Oscillator Phase Lock Option installed.

John

> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:51 AM, John Stengrevics  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi Glenn,
> 
> I had problems with this as well.  I asked tech support and they sent an 
> email showing the following correct cable placement:
> 
> 1.  From J2 on KREF3 board to J83 on the Main KSYN3A board.
> 
> 2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF I note K144XV with Reference 
> Oscillator Phase Lock Option Installed.
> 
> Hope this is helpful.  
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
>> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:41 AM, WA7SPY  wrote:
>> 
>> I have a new K3S kit and P3 kit that I put together. The following options 
>> are installed:
>> FL1 - 13khz FM filter
>> FL2 - 2.7 khz filter
>> FL3 - 400 hz filter
>> FL3 - 200 hz filter
>> KPA3A 100 watt PA
>> KAT3A 100 watt Tuner
>> KBPF3A General coverage band pass
>> KTCX03-1 High stability TCXO
>> K144XV internal 2 meter module
>> K3EXREF external 10mhz reference
>> K144XV phase lock board.
>> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off 
>> frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a 
>> complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. 
>> Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 
>> meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now 
>> the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is 
>> where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have 
>> one end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the 
>> other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do 
>> I have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little 
>> confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used 
>> on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are 
>> installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. 
>> Which one is 
 c
> or
>> rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
>> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my 
>> GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency 
>> was off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and 
>> doing the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on 
>> the KSYN3A board?
>> 
>> Thanks for any help,
>> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
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Re: [Elecraft] New owner with New K3S kit need help?

[John Stengrevics]

Hi Glenn,

I had problems with this as well.  I asked tech support and they sent an email 
showing the following correct cable placement:

1.  From J2 on KREF3 board to J83 on the Main KSYN3A board.

2.  From J1 on the Main KSYN3A board to REF I note K144XV with Reference 
Oscillator Phase Lock Option Installed.

Hope this is helpful.  

John
WA1EAZ

> On Jul 14, 2018, at 10:41 AM, WA7SPY  wrote:
> 
> I have a new K3S kit and P3 kit that I put together. The following options 
> are installed:
> FL1 - 13khz FM filter
> FL2 - 2.7 khz filter
> FL3 - 400 hz filter
> FL3 - 200 hz filter
> KPA3A 100 watt PA
> KAT3A 100 watt Tuner
> KBPF3A General coverage band pass
> KTCX03-1 High stability TCXO
> K144XV internal 2 meter module
> K3EXREF external 10mhz reference
> K144XV phase lock board.
> The K3S and options are all working. I had a problem with 2meters being off 
> frequency after adding the K3EXREF and the K144XV reference board. I did a 
> complete reset to factory defaults. I removed the K144XV reference board. 
> Then set the 2 meter offset back to what was labeled on the module. The 2 
> meter frequency was accurate. I put the K144XV reference board back in. Now 
> the 2 meter frequency is accurate with the board back in. My question is 
> where is the TMP cable suppose to be connected on the KSYN3 board? I have one 
> end connected to REF IN on the 2 meter module. I initially connected the 
> other end to J4 on the KSYN3. I now have it connected to J1 on the KSYN3 do I 
> have the TMP cable connected correctly? The documentation is a little 
> confusing to me. Figure 13 page 15 on the K3EXREF manual shows J4 being used 
> on the KSYN3A if both the KXV144 reference board and the KEXREF options are 
> installed. There is an Errata sheet showing to use J1 on the KSYN3 board. 
> Which one is c
 or
> rect to use for my set up J1 or J4?
> The K3EXREF is working with very accurate frequency on the HF bands with my 
> GPS 10 MHz disciplined oscillator clock  connected. The 2 meter frequency was 
> off when connected to J4. I am not sure if it was corrupt software and doing 
> the reset corrected the issue and am uncertain where to connect to on the 
> KSYN3A board?
> 
> Thanks for any help,
> Glenn Maclean WA7SPY
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Re: [Elecraft] Boldly OT: 6 meter Sporadic-E season and the FT-8 microjuggernaut

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I worked D41CV on 6 meter FT8 a couple of weeks ago.  He was running 15 watts 
and was -18dB here.  If that’s not sub-noise floor, I don’t know what is.

73,

John
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> On Jun 1, 2018, at 5:03 PM, Josh Fiden  wrote:
> 
> FT8 is *not* a "sub-noise floor" mode like JT65. You can complete faster on 
> CW. It's great that there's so much activity, but far too many crap 
> overdriven signals calling relentlessly. 
> 
> 73
> Josh W6XU
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s/KX3 CW decoders

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Really?  I have found just the opposite - that a CW signal has to be hugely 
strong to be decoded.  And, I don’t need it when a signal is strong.  I need it 
when signals are weak.  

How do you have it configured?

John
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> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:54 AM, Michael Blake  wrote:
> 
> I have found that the K3s and KX3 CW decoders work quite well.  Are they 
> original work or based on something like CW Get or fldigi's algorithms?
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps

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I don’t mean to be combative, but just update your apps after an OS update.

I’ve had no problems moving to the latest High Sierra 10.13.4.

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 15, 2018, at 10:33 AM, Raymond Sills  wrote:
> 
> 
> HI Bill:
> 
> 
> /rant
> 
> 
> It's nice that people are getting a warning but IMO, I'd just as soon 
> stay at a lower level OS where all the applications that I need will still 
> work just fine.   I got viciously snagged by an OS upgrade, which rendered my 
> entire Time Capsule backup useless.  So, all the files that I wanted to keep 
> simply are unavailable to me after my older iMac's HD tanked, and I bought a 
> new iMac, ASSUMING (bad idea) that I could restore them to the new machine.  
> Nope.  So, that's left a bitter taste in my mouth.  And, I'm a long time Mac 
> user.   This is the first time I've been seriously burnt by an OS "upgrade".
> 
> 
> So have a number of professional colleagues who depended on their apps 
> running properly on High Sierra... who sadly discovered that their income 
> stream ground to a halt, since they no longer to use their computers for 
> professional audio and video post-production.  Eventually, their apps will be 
> supported by HS... but for many, this is a big deal. Fortunately, some of 
> them were able to "downgrade" back to the OS that works but not all were 
> able to do that.
> 
> 
> So, for now... I do not upgrade an OS unless and until I know that my apps 
> will run properly.
> 
> 
> /end rant
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Bill Frantz mailto:fra...@pwpconsult.com>>
> To: elecraft mailto:elecraft@mailman.qth.net>>
> Sent: Sat, Apr 14, 2018 9:44 pm
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] 32 bit Elecraft Utility Apps
> 
> When I launched the K3 utility, I got a message saying in 
> essence, that it was using obsolete technology. It referenced 
>  which says that soon 
> 32 bit applications will not run. To quote:
> 
> "Starting with macOS High Sierra 10.13.4, apps that have not 
> been updated to use 64-bit processes produce a one-time alert 
> when opened. This gives users advance notice that they are 
> running 32-bit software, which will not be compatible with macOS 
> in the future."
> 
> They don't say when the change will be effective, but the clock 
> is ticking.
> 
> 73 Bill AE6JV
> 
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

[John Stengrevics]

I have recently been using the 6m ARR GaAsFET Preamp ahead of my K3S.  I also 
find that it has lower noise and perhaps more gain.  The proof is that I have 
been able to work moonrise/moonset EME with it (no elevation on my antenna).

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 11:16 PM, Jim Brown  wrote:
> 
> On 4/6/2018 5:58 PM, j...@kk9a.com wrote:
>> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
>> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
>> preamp 1 is also off.
> 
> I've had the opposite experience. MDS of the original K3 was woefully poor 
> above 15M, even with the preamp switched in. As luck would have it, I have a 
> very nice ARR GAsFET 6M preamp on the shelf that I'd used in Chicago that I 
> inserted at the RX antenna patch point; I found that it improved the MDS all 
> the way down to 12M. I would have missed a LOT of QSOs without that preamp. 
> Of course, like everyone else, sometimes my noise level is lower than at 
> other times, and a solar system 500 ft from my main antenna raises it by 10 
> dB on 10 and 6 when the sun is hitting it.
> 
> When the K3S was introduced, I quickly replaced the Synth boards and the 
> Transverter board to get that improved preamp, simplifying my RX antenna 
> switching. I do find, though, that the GAsFET preamp has a slightly lower NF, 
> so I continue to use it during the 6M season.
> 
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S Enable Preamp 2 Without Preamp 1

[John Stengrevics]

Hi John,

I operate mostly 6 & 2 meters.  On 6m, I have a third preamp between the K3S 
and the amp.  When operating EME, I have to disable Preamp 2 because 3 preamps 
create too much noise.  So, I have disabled Preamp 2.  This has allowed me to 
work EME successfully.

I wanted to try an experiment, disabling Preamp 1 and enabling Preamp 2 while 
using my 3rd preamp.  From what I understand, enabling Preamp 2 disables Preamp 
1.  But, I don’t know this for sure.

Let me know your thoughts on this.

Thanks & 73,

John
WA1EAZ

> On Apr 6, 2018, at 8:58 PM,   wrote:
> 
> I am curious what the reason would be for this?   
> 
> I have operated from several countries using my K3S and I am never so
> fortunate to have a noise floor low enough use preamp 2. Most of the time
> preamp 1 is also off.
> 
> John KK9A  (PJ4R in 2018 WPX SSB)
> 
> 
> Stengrevics Jstengrevics wrote:
> 
> Is there some way to enable preamp 2 without enabling preamp 1?  Perhaps
> electing attenuation on preamp 1?
> 
> 73,
> 
> John
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Re: [Elecraft] Macbook Pro, K3, FT 8 audio quits

[John Stengrevics]

Sorry, I should have added that I am using a MacBook Air, macOS High Sierra, 
10.13.4.

> On Apr 3, 2018, at 2:27 PM, John Stengrevics  wrote:
> 
> 
> I can’t add anything specific to resolve your issue.  All I can say is that I 
> have been using WSJT-X (currently v1.9.0 - rc2 r8533) with my K3S with 
> absolutely no problems.  I simply connect the the 2 with a USB cable and 
> follow the instructions to set it up.  Perhaps the problem is related to 
> having a K3 and an external sound card?
> 
> John
> WA1EAZ
> 
>> On Apr 3, 2018, at 12:16 PM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:
>> 
>> Look at your computer for the answer.
>> There have been several reports of "strange things happening" with WSJT-X 
>> from MAC users lately.  I can't say whether the problem is the MAC OS or the 
>> WSJT-X software's interaction with the OS.
>> 
>> Windows users do not seem to have similar problems.
>> 
>> Maybe the MAC is like my new car, its computer thinks it is smarter than I 
>> am.
>> 
>> 73,
>> Don W3FPR
>> 
>> On 4/3/2018 11:53 AM, Craig Taylor wrote:
>>> I am running a MacBook Pro with my K3.  In WSJT-X, the audio will work fine 
>>> for awhile.  The audio switches back to the internal IO in the computer.  I 
>>> have to restart the program to make it work again.  I have the upgraded 
>>> KIO3B installed.  What am I doing wrong?? W9OD
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