[Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

[M. George]

I have done some research to see if this feature has been discussed /
requested before...  After getting back into hobby in the spring of April
2009, I dusted off my old 1000MP and started operating on a regular basis.
 It had been in the box for almost 9 years of non use.  Anyway,  many on
the list had or still have the 1000MP, a great radio.  It's fun to be back
active again on HF.  I'm trying to catch up for all the lost time by
spending a lot of $$$ now. ;)

Well, this spring I decided to pull the trigger on a K3 after really
getting to kick the tires on several at a couple of N3RS ARRL CW efforts
over the last 3 years.  It was time for a new radio and I loved the
portability of the K3 and what I was hearing / using at the N3RS CW contest
operations.

So I put a kit together a pretty loaded up kit version in April and I'm
really loving the K3 and there is certainly no going back to the 1000MP.
 It was perfect on a county line expedition I did for 7QP.

Back to the real reason for this email to the list... There is one thing I
really miss from the 1000MP (the only thing really) and it's the auto
memory of the last frequency you used per mode / band.  I'm sure this
wouldn't be fore everyone so it should be optional.  I really like how if
you were operating on 14008.5 CW for example and you pushed the Mode for
SSB, you will change to SSB (obviously) and the frequency would jump to the
last frequency you had used SSB on for 20 meters in this case, 14220 for
example... if you popped back to the CW mode, you would jump right back to
14008.5 in this example.  I find it really clunky to change the step or
manually enter a frequency.  It was so nice to get you into the band area
for the mode automatically and then just tun around from there.

Have I missed something obvious for the K3?  Is there a way to creatively
do this now?  With a macro maybe?  I tried to hunt around and see if
someone had the same question or suggestion, but maybe I'm searching for
the wrong terms.

de Max NG7M
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Suggestion - Remember Frequency per Band Mode

[M. George]

Gentlemen, thanks for the details on the quick memories and several
suggestions on how to do this.  I will spend some time reading up on the
quick memories.  The key was that they are obviously are set per band.  I'm
sure I can come up with a good work around now.

If there is still some room left in the K3 firmware address space... I sure
wouldn't complain if this was added in a future update... hint, hint,
nudge, nudge... ;)

Thanks again for the responses everyone.  de NG7M Max
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Re: [Elecraft] SDR_Sound_Cards

[M. George]

I'm running a 0204 with NaP3 on The Release to Manufacturing build of
Windows 8.  64 bit, it all works great as expected They don't have the
Windows 0204 drivers on the website because it comes with them in the
box.(I found it curious why they don't have them on the website for the
0204)  I also have a 0202 that works find in Windows 7 64 bit, you can
download these drivers on the creative website and to be honest, I think
they are the same drivers that come in the box with the 0204.

All running with an LP-PAN II of course.  It by far has exceeded my
expectations.

LP-Bridge + LP-PAN II + K3 + E-MU 0204 + Windows 7/8... solid and reliable.
 With N1MM or DxLab... with NaP3 cranking away.  Very little CPU usage on a
nice i5 setup with a $120 AMD discrete video card.

If you want a plug and play toaster, get the P3... if you want
total flexibility with a smooth as silk sizable window with a great mouse
interface, go with the Creative E-MU  0204 and the LP-PAN II.  If you are
trying to run this on some old dog single or dual core setup with a 13 year
old OS like XP... well then good luck.

de NG7M

KQ8M wrote
>
> I'm sorry but it is true. I have 2 0204's and neither work for crap on Win
> 7. I have been on Creative's forums and read all of the
> big audiophile's that used the 0204 on XP but cannot get it to work worth
> dung on Vista or Win 7. I have tried. Go to Creative's
> website and see if you can download drivers for an 0204 for ANY Windows
> platform!
>

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[Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R

[M. George]

I'm looking for a Trimble ThunderBolt Rev E primarily for an external
reference to be used on the NC7J CW Skimmer Server (which I sysop) for
our QS1R SDR.  telnet:dxc.nc7j.com

Poking around and doing some research, it's clear I missed the opportunity
a number of years ago to get one for less than $100.

If anyone has one sitting around or an extra they would like to sell, let
me know... on eBay I see them going anywhere from around $125 to $250 at
times, but the auctions are not showing up on a regular basis.

Hit me up off the list here if you have one you would want to sell.  I'll
put it to good use keeping the skimmer server spots at NC7J spot on. ;)

Max NG7M

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Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R

[M. George]

Pete, Brian and Bob, thanks for the nice feedback.  I looked the RB
solution, but I had not found the Chinese all in one GPSDO.  And Pete I'm
glad you jumped in, thought I read that the QS1R would lock on a frequency
from 10-125.  I'll ping you separate off line... I had some other projects
I mind for the Thunderbolt, but based on the input here I will do more
research.  Max NG7M
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Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R

[M. George]

After posting my message about using an external frequency reference for a
K3 and a QS1R, I got some really nice input and feedback from W7AVK, K3KO,
N4ZR and NK4I. A big thanks to these gents for sending me input and
experience with different solutions.

All the input has been very useful this weekend as I have searched around
for a single time reference solution for my needs. (everyone is going to be
different)  I thought this might help others that want to go down this path
if they have similar wants / needs.

I decided to still go with a Trimble Thunderbolt Rev. E ~2004 manufacture.
This isn't going to be the lowest cost solution, but it covers my needs for
the following:

1. Provide a very stable 10mhz external reference for my K3... mainly for
fun and I might send in some reports to the ARRL FMT etc..  so there goes
$$$ for the external freq reference add on for the K3.

2. The main reason I started going down this path was to use the external
frequency reference input on the QS1R I run for the NC7J CW Skimmer.  NK4I
saved me a bunch of time (no pun intended) and pointed out the fact that
the direct output on the Trimble TBolt won't work with the QS1R.  Pete
pointed me to Graham VK3XDK and David VK3HZ's XRef which will provide a 125
MHz reference for the QS1R from the TBolt 10 MHz output
http://www.vk3hz.net/XRef/XRef_Home.html#XRef-Vx  I exchanged email with
David and have a XRef-Vx on the way... some more $$$ for the XRef-Vx
shipped.  Seriously not bad at all considering it has a TCXO on board that
will take over if the Trimble output lock is lost.

3. Use a PPS reference to drive an NTP Stratum 1 server from my house.  I
get this out of the TBolt and also from most of the other solutions
provided, but the TBolt has some other really nice monitoring
capabilities.  So for the NTP server, I ordered the latest Raspberry PI $50
with a case shipped and I searched high and low for other implementations
using a TBolt with Linux / Raspberry PI for a GPS disciplined NTP PSS
reference.  Google 'time nuts' which I'm sure many on this list are
familiar with... and I quickly found KO4BB's Thunderbolt Monitor Kit:
http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/kit.php  Which will be a nice
display for the serial output on the TBolt as it drives the NTP server (and
QS1R and K3 when I'm operating) ARound $80 for this kit when Didier gets
the next batch ready.  This monitor kit also includes a PPS stretcher to
increase the 10uS PPS pulse output by the TBolt to ~1mS.

So that is my reasoning to stick with a TBolt...  they seem to be holding
their value if not getting more expensive and there is all the nice work
and comparisons that have been done by KE5FX
http://www.ke5fx.com/gpscomp.htm along with his Lady Heather software.
It's pretty clear that the TBolt can still hold it's own.

At the end of the day, do I need all this precision?  Not really, but it's
obsessive and fun!  I get to spend more $$$ and have stuff shipped to me
from around the globe and play with ntpd and cool software... provide a
better service to the CW Skimmer community and precision time community
with the NTP server.  Plus I'll give the ARRL FMT a try and have some more
fun.

Thanks again for all the input off the list by the guys above.

Max NG7M

On Wed, Apr 1, 2015 at 8:27 AM, M. George 
wrote:

> I'm looking for a Trimble ThunderBolt Rev E primarily for an external
> reference to be used on the NC7J CW Skimmer Server (which I sysop) for
> our QS1R SDR.  telnet:dxc.nc7j.com
>
> Poking around and doing some research, it's clear I missed the opportunity
> a number of years ago to get one for less than $100.
>
> If anyone has one sitting around or an extra they would like to sell, let
> me know... on eBay I see them going anywhere from around $125 to $250 at
> times, but the auctions are not showing up on a regular basis.
>
> Hit me up off the list here if you have one you would want to sell.  I'll
> put it to good use keeping the skimmer server spots at NC7J spot on. ;)
>
> Max NG7M
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Re: [Elecraft] WTB Trimble ThunderBolt for K3EXREF / QS1R

[M. George]

A follow up to my write up... I should have included more details from
personal emails I received from Dave, G3TJP.  Bob W7AVK also mentioned the
BG7TBL GPS Disciplined Clock and I totally got my wires crossed and didn't
mention G3TJP in my write-up. Sigh  Apologies to Mr. Lankshear... Dave
took some time in a personal email to point out the follow about the BG7TBL
which is going for ~144.00 on ebay... it really is a nice package... here
are some of Dave's comments (in hindsight, I wonder if this would have been
the way to go):

G3TJP: "It’s a very neat and small unit, very professionally produced and
comes complete with power supply and GPS antenna.  I bought one and then a
second one as a gift to a good friend.  It uses the Morion double oven
10MHz xtal oscillator, or equivalent.  The output is a decent sine wave
with just enough distortion to give good harmonics at 10MHz intervals up to
at least 50MHz, which is as far as I’ve checked.  The Morion is actually a
5MHz oscillator that’s doubled to 10MHz, so you have a usable, locked
signal at 5MHz also."

Dave also mentioned that the seller 'fly-xy' is a decent guy and will ben
over backwards to help you as you treat him fairly.  i.e. if something
needs to be returned or corrected.  Plus, this unit is a turnkey package
and he also sells a 10mhz distribution amplifier that looks interesting...
another BG7TBL design.

KE5FX has also reviewed Bob W7AVK's BG7TBL and has a nice comparison write
up on his website (KE5FX of Lady Heather fame).  The comparison is easy to
find on KE5FX's site.

Again, thanks to everyone that had input... I tried to mention everyone
that pointed me in the right direction off the list and leaving out Dave
G3TJP was my mistake.

Regards, Max NG7M


On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 8:59 PM, M. George 
wrote:

> After posting my message about using an external frequency reference for a
> K3 and a QS1R, I got some really nice input and feedback from W7AVK, K3KO,
> N4ZR and NK4I. A big thanks to these gents for sending me input and
> experience with different solutions.
>
> All the input has been very useful this weekend as I have searched around
> for a single time reference solution for my needs. (everyone is going to be
> different)  I thought this might help others that want to go down this path
> if they have similar wants / needs.
>
> I decided to still go with a Trimble Thunderbolt Rev. E ~2004
> manufacture.  This isn't going to be the lowest cost solution, but it
> covers my needs for the following:
>
> 1. Provide a very stable 10mhz external reference for my K3... mainly for
> fun and I might send in some reports to the ARRL FMT etc..  so there goes
> $$$ for the external freq reference add on for the K3.
>
> 2. The main reason I started going down this path was to use the external
> frequency reference input on the QS1R I run for the NC7J CW Skimmer.  NK4I
> saved me a bunch of time (no pun intended) and pointed out the fact that
> the direct output on the Trimble TBolt won't work with the QS1R.  Pete
> pointed me to Graham VK3XDK and David VK3HZ's XRef which will provide a 125
> MHz reference for the QS1R from the TBolt 10 MHz output
> http://www.vk3hz.net/XRef/XRef_Home.html#XRef-Vx  I exchanged email with
> David and have a XRef-Vx on the way... some more $$$ for the XRef-Vx
> shipped.  Seriously not bad at all considering it has a TCXO on board that
> will take over if the Trimble output lock is lost.
>
> 3. Use a PPS reference to drive an NTP Stratum 1 server from my house.  I
> get this out of the TBolt and also from most of the other solutions
> provided, but the TBolt has some other really nice monitoring
> capabilities.  So for the NTP server, I ordered the latest Raspberry PI $50
> with a case shipped and I searched high and low for other implementations
> using a TBolt with Linux / Raspberry PI for a GPS disciplined NTP PSS
> reference.  Google 'time nuts' which I'm sure many on this list are
> familiar with... and I quickly found KO4BB's Thunderbolt Monitor Kit:
> http://www.ko4bb.com/Timing/GPSMonitor/kit.php  Which will be a nice
> display for the serial output on the TBolt as it drives the NTP server (and
> QS1R and K3 when I'm operating) ARound $80 for this kit when Didier gets
> the next batch ready.  This monitor kit also includes a PPS stretcher to
> increase the 10uS PPS pulse output by the TBolt to ~1mS.
>
> So that is my reasoning to stick with a TBolt...  they seem to be holding
> their value if not getting more expensive and there is all the nice work
> and comparisons that have been done by KE5FX
> http://www.ke5fx.com/gpscomp.htm along with his Lady Heather software.
> It's pretty clear that the TBolt can still hold it's own.
>
> At the end of the day, do I need all this 

Re: [Elecraft] Win4K3Suite ?

[M. George]

Bob, I just saw your question about Win4K3Suite.  I can add my
recommendation to the others that have responding.  I highly recommend it.
I even took the time and made a very detailed YouTube video that you might
be interested in.  It focuses on the capability of sharing the K3/S CAT
feed across multiple software apps and hardware.  Here is the link
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U>if you want to take a look...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U

I pack a lot of detail in the video... you can jump forward 10 seconds or
back 10 seconds by using the 'J' and 'L' keys on your keyboard or 3 second
jumps using the arrow keys.  This video will give you some good context of
how you can leverage the 'virtual' CAT feeds.  I love this solution because
it's 100% transparent to the software or hardware you are using.  In all
cases, the software or hardware thinks it's directly connected to your K3/S.

Max NG7M

> Thanks to all who responded to my question abt the Win4K3Suite.Sounds
like exactly what I need and a very good program.I'll let you know how it
works out for me.73 de Bob K4RLC

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[Elecraft] Elecraft K4 NG7M YouTube Q&A Video with Eric Swartz WA6HHQ @ Hamvention 2019

[M. George]

I cornered Eric Swartz WA6HHQ for a few minutes Sunday morning and did a
quick Q&A on the K4.  ~7 minutes on the video from Sunday morning @
Hamvention 2019 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehH4xYt2Ls>.  His
comments on full-duplex / SO2R in a box were interesting. It appears that
full-duplex isn't out of the question for the K4.  Eric gives a quick
overview of the three different version of the K4, K4 HD and the K4 HD with
the Superhet module, plus touches on several other topics based on my
random questions.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RehH4xYt2Ls

Max NG7M

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[Elecraft] 4K Ultra High Def version of Elecraft K4 Q&A Video Posted by NG7M

[M. George]

Hi everyone, I was surprised to see that Elecraft included a link to the
YouTube video I posted of my quick Q&A with Eric WA6HHQ at Hamvention.  If
I would have known Elecraft was going to share the link, I would have
waited to upload the 4K version of the K4. :)  If you have 4K capabilities,
you can now see Eric Swartz immortalized in 4K 60 frames per second
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QakxQGFaDwA> on your high computer or 4K
capable big screen TV.

Is this overkill for an interview / Q&A video, yes... but hey, it's 2019
and the long awaited K4 has been announced, so it makes sense to have a 4K
UHD video of the K4 (Palindrome <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palindrome>).
This version is a full frame version compared to the original video.  The
quality is much better and you can select resolutions all the way up to 4K
60fps (if you have the hardware to view UHD video that is).

On YouTube you can't replace a video and keep the same URL link, so I'll
leave both versions up on my YouTube channel.

Here is the new direct link if you want to see the higher quality version:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QakxQGFaDwA

Max NG7M

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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Counter for Calibrating K3S

[M. George]

If you end up still wanting to get a frequency counter and want to spend a
few bucks, I would keep your eyes peeled for a good deal on an HP 5385A or
something similar on fleaBay, don't mess with the sub $100 cheap ones.
Then get a 10mhz GPSDO reference like the Leo Bodnar GPSDO
<http://www.leobodnar.com/shop/index.php?main_page=product_info&products_id=234>...
setup a simple GPS antenna outside your shack and then finalize the setup
with the K3EXREF.  Then distribute the 10mhz signal from the GPSDO to your
Frequency Counter and your K3.  You then end up with a lab grade accurate
frequency counter and you never need to worry about the K3 accuracy ever
again.   Then run out and get a frequency generator because you spent
several hundred bucks on the above setup and because the XG3 is just to
practical and simple... look for an HP 8656B or something similar and use
your GPSDO as a reference for that.  Oh and then you might want to get an
HP power meter like a E4418A and sensors to check the accuracy of the
frequency generator. (sensors at $150-$400 a pop) :)  Oh, and then if you
have a PPS output from your GPSDO you can setup your own Raspberry PI or
Odroid Stratum 1 NTPD server and have a NTP clock reference that is
accurate into the potentially nano second range to sync your PC clocks
against.  (all just because you can ... lol!)

Of course, I agree with the other posts... it's crazy simple to zero beat
with WWV and or switch back and forth between the CW side bands to zero
your REFCAL setting on the K3.  And it's free too. ;)  But some of us like
buying and tinkering with this stuff.  I'm guilty as accused.

Max NG7M

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 12:25 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> Some people seem to have a lot of trouble detecting "zero beat" but once
> the
> technique is learned, it's easy to calibrate the K3/K3S to within 0.2 Hz of
> WWV's carrier (one beat every 5 seconds). One could get closer depending
> upon your patience.
>
> It's useful to wait until WWV transmits a steady carrier with no tone,
> otherwise it's easy to accidentally zero beat one of the sidebands produced
> by the tone so you end up off by the frequency of the tone.
>
> The K3 makes a great tunable frequency meter. Nowadays I use the K3
> (calibrated against WWV) to check the calibration of the counter's master
> oscillator.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Bill
> Frantz
> Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2017 10:01 AM
> To: stengrevics
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] Frequency Counter for Calibrating K3S
>
> Frequency counters will also need to be calibrated. I have been quite happy
> using WWV with my K3, and you can't beat the price.
>
> 73 Bill AE6JV
>
> On 2/11/17 at 9:39 AM, jstengrev...@comcast.net (stengrevics) wrote:
>
> >I am considering buying a frequency counter to calibrate my K3S.  I see
> >that Amazon has several for <$100.  Has anyone had any experience with
> >these? Are they just a waste of money?
>
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[Elecraft] K3S KRX3 carrier-operated relay noise at 20w plus... gets louder

[M. George]

I'm pulling my hair out on this one... all morning trying to do my due
diligence.

I picked up a used K3S which is like new... I got a great deal.  Anyway, I
verified with Elecraft that this K3S was factory assembled and there were
not any field upgrades installed based on the verification of the original
invoice with Elecraft.  All the goodies with the factory build are
installed.

The first thing I did when I got it was to reset all the settings back to
defaults and then take the time to go through setting everything up again
and running through all the calibrations etc...  It would have bugged me to
not know how everything was setup, plus I have done this many times over
the years with K3 kit builds etc...

My (new to me K3S) has the KRX3 installed and everything is working as
expected, except that I'm hearing the carrier-operated relay come on when
keying CW into a dummy load on ANT1.  I have verified that the KAT3A which
is installed to is not setup to send any RF input to the KRX3, but the
standard build is in place with the AUX RF BNC connector is connected
directly to the back of the KRX3 input.

I don't have a receive antenna hooked up to the AUX RF connector and in
fact I have put a dummy load on it just to be sure there shouldn't be any
funky RF getting into the KRX3.

I setup the CONFIG KRX3 setting to Ant=bnc and I have powered off the radio
and back on etc... but I still get the problem with the carrier-operated
relay coming on.  There is some info in the manual about an issue with VCO
CAL needing to be run again if you have this issue, but I don't believe VCO
CAL applies for the K3S with the new synth boards.

I have a solid dummy load connected to ANT1 and I just can't see what would
be causing the carrier-operated relay to start to switch on as increase
 power to the +12 watts point where the KPA3A kicks in.  I can start to
hear the relay to start switching around 20 watts plus as already mentioned.

H, any thoughts... hope someone made it this far into the post.  I hope
I'm not having an RTFM or STFI moment here and missing something obvious.

Max NG7M

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S KRX3 carrier-operated relay noise at 20w plus... gets louder

[M. George]

I figured out what was going on here...  I'm assuming that the carrier
sense relay is only on the new KAT3A?, and in this case, it helped me solve
an RFI issue in my shack.  I was powering a receive antenna pre-amp and a
10mhz reference signal distribution box with the same PS as I was using for
the K3S.  Not a great idea where both devices in this case had outputs
(obviously) back into the K3S.  i.e. the RX antenna input and the K3EXREF
input from my 10mhz reference.  Sigh... it has been a long day gyrating
around with things... removed all the ground connections to everything and
as luck would have it... the light finally turned on with the PS powering
the two boxes mentioned above.

Max NG7M



On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 3:23 PM, M. George 
wrote:

> I'm pulling my hair out on this one... all morning trying to do my due
> diligence.
>
> I picked up a used K3S which is like new... I got a great deal.  Anyway, I
> verified with Elecraft that this K3S was factory assembled and there were
> not any field upgrades installed based on the verification of the original
> invoice with Elecraft.  All the goodies with the factory build are
> installed.
>
> The first thing I did when I got it was to reset all the settings back to
> defaults and then take the time to go through setting everything up again
> and running through all the calibrations etc...  It would have bugged me to
> not know how everything was setup, plus I have done this many times over
> the years with K3 kit builds etc...
>
> My (new to me K3S) has the KRX3 installed and everything is working as
> expected, except that I'm hearing the carrier-operated relay come on when
> keying CW into a dummy load on ANT1.  I have verified that the KAT3A which
> is installed to is not setup to send any RF input to the KRX3, but the
> standard build is in place with the AUX RF BNC connector is connected
> directly to the back of the KRX3 input.
>
> I don't have a receive antenna hooked up to the AUX RF connector and in
> fact I have put a dummy load on it just to be sure there shouldn't be any
> funky RF getting into the KRX3.
>
> I setup the CONFIG KRX3 setting to Ant=bnc and I have powered off the
> radio and back on etc... but I still get the problem with the
> carrier-operated relay coming on.  There is some info in the manual about
> an issue with VCO CAL needing to be run again if you have this issue, but I
> don't believe VCO CAL applies for the K3S with the new synth boards.
>
> I have a solid dummy load connected to ANT1 and I just can't see what
> would be causing the carrier-operated relay to start to switch on as
> increase  power to the +12 watts point where the KPA3A kicks in.  I can
> start to hear the relay to start switching around 20 watts plus as already
> mentioned.
>
> H, any thoughts... hope someone made it this far into the post.  I
> hope I'm not having an RTFM or STFI moment here and missing something
> obvious.
>
> Max NG7M
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Re: [Elecraft] There is a new release of Win4K3Suite available

[M. George]

I'm throwing out an unsolicited and not so shameless plug for Tom and
Win4K3Suite.  If you look at the eham reviews, you will see that I wrote up
a verbose review and gave Win4K3Suite a 5.  For sharing the CAT interface
on your K3/K3s, I'm not aware of anything better and as stated in the eham
review, it's worth the price just for the CAT interface sharing via com0com.

For years I have been an NaP3 and LP-PAN2 / LP-BRIDGE (CAT sharing) user.
While LP-BRIDGE works pretty well, NaP3 as always been a mixed bag where it
just hasn't been rock solid over time... in my opinion anyway.  Waiting for
LP-BRIDGE to create it's virtual serial ports is a minor nit-pick, but
Win4K3Suite and com0com have been a very rock solid / reliable solution for
me since November of last year and there is no wait for virtual com port
creation at boot time or when you start up Win4K3Suite.

As I mention in the review, I was a tough sell at first and really didn't
give it a chance.  However, I bought an SDRPlay to tinker around with on
the side and so I revisited Win4K3Suite.  Once the light turned on around
the K3/K3s CAT sharing capabilities and I took some more time to use the
band scope in Win4K3Suite, I was sold.  The feature set on the band scope
isn't as robust as NaP3, however I have grown to prefer the simplicity of
Tom's band scope implementation.  And the huge plus for Win4K3Suite is the
active support and feature updates.

I have returned to using LP-PAN2 as my pan adapter with Win4K3Suite.  The
SDRPlay is an interesting one cable solution, but the receiver and blocking
dynamic range that the SDRPlay has is not even in the same league as the
LP-PAN2 and a good 192khz sound card (not in the same universe for that
matter).  I haven't tried the new SDRPlay RSP2, but it may be worth a
look.  If you are a contester and don't want to watch a pumping spectrum
display with strong signals anywhere in the view, then I would recommend
staying away from the SDRPlay RSP1.

If you have wanted to trying something else out there for CAT interface
sharing with your K3/K3S (and other K line transceivers), you should give
the Win4K3Suite a try with the 30 day demo.  Tom has been very responsive
to resolving issues in my experience and also very responsive to questions
etc... also, if you want a solid spectrum scope / pan adapter solution that
just works and requires no baby sitting and tweaking, you should give it a
try.  The irony here is that I haven't even touched on the full graphical
interface Win4K3Suite exposes to control the Elecraft radios.

End of the unsolicited plug for Win4K3Suite... oh, one more thing, the new
3D spectrum display looks like a really cool piece of eye candy and the
remote power tool will be another nice addition.

Max NG7M

On Fri, Feb 17, 2017 at 4:39 PM, Tom  wrote:

>
> Hi,
> There is a new release of Win4K3Suite available.  This one adds a macro
> tab in the Mini-screens allowing you to easily customize the controls you
> wish to use as well as a few fixes.
> Win4K3Suite is a comprehensive control program for the Elecraft K3, K3S,
> KX3, KX2 and allows use of the KPA500 and KAT500 with all the radios.  It
> includes support for the P3, the SDRPlay RSP 1 and 2 as well as LPPAN.  All
> third party hardware and software work with Win4K3suite via built in
> Managed Virtual serial ports.
> You can read reviews here:
> https://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11214
> and see videos of it in action here:
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=win4k3suite
>
> Soon there will be a new product! Power4K3 – This is a turnkey solution
> for powering on your K3 or K3S via software.  It is also dual purpose, it
> has a built in serial port PTT jack allowing you to have hardware PTT with
> software like N1MM+, FLDigi and others.
> Also, check out the 3D spectrum prototype on the YouTube link.
> 73 Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[M. George]

I used LP-Bridge for many years and never was satisfied with the
reliability... plus the time it takes to create the virtual ports was
always irritating to me. It is pretty good and the price sure is right
however!

I have switched to Win4K3Suite with com0com for the CAT sharing of the
K3(s) and it has been rock solid.  As others have mentioned, you can share
the K3 CAT interface with up to 4 other applications and the lastest
version of Win4K3Suite also adds 3 or 4 (off the top of my head) read only
interfaces that you can use... i.e. like an SDA100 SteppIR controller or an
Amplifier that will track the transceiver frequency.  VSPE looks pretty
good, but the license feed for the signed 64 bit version is ~$25 and that
gets you half way to the cost of Win4K3Suite... Win4K3WSuite in and of
itself is really nice.  The more I use it, the more I like it... for
example, pre defined RX EQ settings are so nice where you can just push a
button and change the EQ settings on the K3 in a few seconds and if you are
tweaking the EQ settings, you get to hear things live without having to
leave the Config menu.  Anyway, I'm really like the spectrum display to in
combination with an LP-PAN2.  It's become the replacement to NaP3.  It's
all together just a much more reliable solution than LP-Bridge and NaP3
IMHO.  I can't live without my LP-PAN2 by the way... but now I no longer
need to deal with LP-Bridge and Win4K3Suite starts right up with no delay
where the com0com ports are created when Windows 10 starts up.

Max NG7M

On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Tim Tucker  wrote:

> I have used LP Bridge in the past but found that it crashed too often to
> suit my tastes.  I am currently using VSPE 64 bit on two machines (for the
> past 2 years) without any problems.
>
> Tim
>
> On Wed, Mar 1, 2017 at 9:31 AM, buddy s  wrote:
>
> > i have a laptop, win 10, usb cabled to my k3, and the com port is
> > identified as com3.  i would like to use ham radio deluxe and logic
> > simultaneously.
> >
> > if someone has a similar situation and solved the problem i would
> > appreciate the details.  i have tried VSPE, unsuccessfully.
> >
> > thanks, es
> >
> > 73 de
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Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic with k3 and a laptop with only com3

[M. George]

Hi Tony, first off I can help you with LP-Bridge sending data to your ACOM
2000a.  In LP-Bridge, the read only outputs are hard coded to the kenwood
protocol at 4800 baud.  So you can use LP-Bridge to get your ACOM 2000a to
track your K3 if you set the ACOM 2000A to Kenwood on the radio interface.
I had this configured and working on Jim's W7CT's setup a few months back.
I exchanged a few emails with Larry N8LP and he pointed out the hard coded
Kenwood / 4800 baud protocol on the output option in LP-Bridge.

Like you I didn't get excited about Win4K3Suite at first and I too saw the
RX eq settings reset.  But after thinking through it, I love the RX eq
settings being controlled by Win4K3Suite now.  There is no way to do that
from a K3 macro as far as I know... on the RX side.  So with Win4K3Suite,
you can store RX eq presents and switch between them on the fly AND you can
change the RX eq settings in real-time and hear the change, you can't do
this via the Config menu.

It does take a few seconds for Win4K3Suite to manipulate the RX eq settings
because it's doing some tricks to change the settings on the fly.

The reason Win4K3Suite resets the eq settings is because there is no way to
read the settings from the K3 to store them in the first place... so it
resets the settings for TX and RX eq at start up and then once you change
them in W4K3S and exit Win4K3Suite it stores them in the Win4K3Suite config
on disk... so then the next time you start up, it restores the settings to
your K3.  I was annoyed by this until I read Tom's FAQ here:
http://va2fsq.com/faq/  Then the light turned on.  There is no way to read
settings from the K3 eq, so to externalize this, Tom is working around that
limitation.  Once you set them up in W4K3S you are golden.  And it's a
major bonus to changes those on the fly as I have described.  BTW, I'm just
a happy user of W4K3S if you are wondering... I have no reason to try and
tout it other than I have been happy with the updates and support.

Even if you don't use the spectrum display in W4K3S, based on my many year
experience with LP-Bridge and NaP3, I still think it's well worth it on how
it shares the K3 CAT data.  It has been totally reliable too...

Anyway, give it another try and play around with the multiple and
dynamic UI settings for the eq in your K3.

Max NG7M



On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 1:06 PM, N2TK, Tony  wrote:

> I have been using LP-Bridge since its inception without major issues.
> I had tried Win4K3Suite one day. I did not spend much time with it, but two
> things didn't seem right. Maybe I just didn't know what I was doing though.
> It seemed each time I started the program I lost the equalizer settings and
> had to reenter them.
> Also there was an issue about the resolution had to be set to 3 decimal
> places. I would rather have the resolution to two decimal places for CW and
> for SSB depending if I am running or just going up and down the band I want
> to have 1 or two decimal places.
> And again, maybe I just didn't know what I was doing. And since LP-Bridge
> handles all of my devices fine I didn't get too serious with Win4K3Suite. I
> have the P3 with external monitor so not too interested in another band
> scope.
> The one thing I can't seem to do with LP-Bridge is have the Acom 2000A
> track
> my K3's receive frequency in order to pretune. I have N4PY's program doing
> that in the background.
>
> Tell me I didn't do things correctly and that if I set up Win4K3Suite
> properly I  can just start the program and it will start my other interface
> programs such as N1MM+, DXBase, AXETTY,  like LP-Bride and be seamless.
>
> 73,
> N2TK, Tony
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Elecraft [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of M.
> George
> Sent: Wednesday, March 01, 2017 8:36 PM
> Cc: Elecraft Reflector 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] list submission, using ham radio deluxe and logic
> with k3 and a laptop with only com3
>
> I used LP-Bridge for many years and never was satisfied with the
> reliability... plus the time it takes to create the virtual ports was
> always
> irritating to me. It is pretty good and the price sure is right however!
>
> I have switched to Win4K3Suite with com0com for the CAT sharing of the
> K3(s) and it has been rock solid.  As others have mentioned, you can share
> the K3 CAT interface with up to 4 other applications and the lastest
> version
> of Win4K3Suite also adds 3 or 4 (off the top of my head) read only
> interfaces that you can use... i.e. like an SDA100 SteppIR controller or an
> Amplifier that will track the transceiver frequency.  VSPE looks pretty
> good, but the license feed for the signed 64 bit version is ~$25 and that
> gets you half way to the cost of Win4K3Suite... Win4K3WS

[Elecraft] K3s Hearing low level rear speaker audio with SPKR+PH no and low AF set

[M. George]

I just noticed that I have low audio output on my K3s rear speaker out when
CONFIG->SPKR+PH is set to no.  I always chalked this up to being able to
hear audio from my headphones sitting on the left side of the desk here,
but I'm getting a low audio out of primarily the left speaker still when
spkr+ph is off.  I'm going out of the speaker output on the K3s KIO3B into
some high end speakers, but I can duplicate the issue with a pair of
headphones too.  So it's not the amplified speakers picking something stray
up.

The CONFIG AF GAIN is LO and when I switch between LO and HI, the output
gets louder with the SPKR+PH off.  The output is primarily on the left
channel too?  Scratching my head.  A bad relay on the KIO3B?  When I switch
the SPKR+PH to ON, all is well for the left/right output on the output and
of course the volume / AF level goes way up like it should.

By the way, I have SPKRS set to 2 as expected.  Hmmm... am I missing
something obvious here?  RTFM? :)

Max NG7M

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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Hearing low level rear speaker audio with SPKR+PH no and low AF set

[M. George]

Bill, I was beginning to wonder if anyone would comment.  Thanks for taking
the time to reply.  The problem is real and it's not trivial.  This morning
I pulled out every connection on my K3s and even unconnected the ground.
Nothing changes.  Even with the antenna not connected, you can hear white
noise, primarily out of the left channel.  The level on the right channel
is just not as pronounced.  Again, the CONFIG AF level is low and if I turn
up the AF gain even half way, I can hear receiver output.  Something is not
right here.

Off to work for now, but I'll make a video of this tonight and post it.  I
still have a second K3 and if needs be, I'll hook it up to compare.

Max NG7M

On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Nr4c  wrote:

> I commented on this over a year ago and was tole that it was not possible.
> BUT IT STILL DOES IT!
>
> Thanks for your input.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:43 PM, M. George 
> wrote:
> >
> > I just noticed that I have low audio output on my K3s rear speaker out
> when
> > CONFIG->SPKR+PH is set to no.  I always chalked this up to being able to
> > hear audio from my headphones sitting on the left side of the desk here,
> > but I'm getting a low audio out of primarily the left speaker still when
> > spkr+ph is off.  I'm going out of the speaker output on the K3s KIO3B
> into
> > some high end speakers, but I can duplicate the issue with a pair of
> > headphones too.  So it's not the amplified speakers picking something
> stray
> > up.
> >
> > The CONFIG AF GAIN is LO and when I switch between LO and HI, the output
> > gets louder with the SPKR+PH off.  The output is primarily on the left
> > channel too?  Scratching my head.  A bad relay on the KIO3B?  When I
> switch
> > the SPKR+PH to ON, all is well for the left/right output on the output
> and
> > of course the volume / AF level goes way up like it should.
> >
> > By the way, I have SPKRS set to 2 as expected.  Hmmm... am I missing
> > something obvious here?  RTFM? :)
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Hearing low level rear speaker audio with SPKR+PH no and low AF set

[M. George]

Hi Don, thanks for jumping in, this isn't an issue of hearing loss, nor is
it a problem of subRX AF audio.  The problem is that the rear speaker
output on the KIO3B has audio on it after turning SPKR+PH to 'no'.  I can
sit at the radio and copy CW for example from the speaker output when there
should be NONE and the level is most pronounced from the left channel.
Bill apparently tried to get some legs on this issue a year ago per his
post.  I have AFX off by the way, it's nothing to do with AFX either.

I don't have the subRX on either.  I'll make a video of the problem this
evening.  It's not like it's a low, low AF output from the rear speaker out
(when the output should be off / zero), the output is real and it's the
main receiver output.

Max NG7M



On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 7:23 AM, Don Wilhelm  wrote:

> Max,
>
> Is it not easy to adjust the relative volume from the main and subRX using
> the concentric AF Gain knobs?  They do not have to be "locked together".
> The separate controls must be there for a reason.
> For instance, some have more hearing loss in one ear as compared to the
> other and different volume levels is desirable.
>
> 73,
> Don W3FPR
>
>
> On 3/6/2017 9:11 AM, M. George wrote:
>
>> Bill, I was beginning to wonder if anyone would comment.  Thanks for
>> taking
>> the time to reply.  The problem is real and it's not trivial.  This
>> morning
>> I pulled out every connection on my K3s and even unconnected the ground.
>> Nothing changes.  Even with the antenna not connected, you can hear white
>> noise, primarily out of the left channel.
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3s Hearing low level rear speaker audio with SPKR+PH no and low AF set

[M. George]

Same problem here Bill.  I never noticed this on my K3.  I sent an email to
Elecraft support.  I'll see what Elecraft support comes back with.  As you
mention, the output is not super low either... anyone in the room could
hear it.  Primarily on the left channel, but the output is on the right
channel too, just much lower.  We have the exact same issue, there is no
question about it.

Max NG7M

On Mon, Mar 6, 2017 at 8:24 AM, Nr4c  wrote:

> This has only been a problem with my K3S, my K3 doesn't exhibit this
> anomaly.
>
> I frequently operate after wife goes to bed and I want the speakers OFF.
> but the left one never really is OFF. Only much reduced output.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
> ...nr4c. bill
>
>
> On Mar 6, 2017, at 9:11 AM, M. George  wrote:
>
> Bill, I was beginning to wonder if anyone would comment.  Thanks for
> taking the time to reply.  The problem is real and it's not trivial.  This
> morning I pulled out every connection on my K3s and even unconnected the
> ground.  Nothing changes.  Even with the antenna not connected, you can
> hear white noise, primarily out of the left channel.  The level on the
> right channel is just not as pronounced.  Again, the CONFIG AF level is low
> and if I turn up the AF gain even half way, I can hear receiver output.
> Something is not right here.
>
> Off to work for now, but I'll make a video of this tonight and post it.  I
> still have a second K3 and if needs be, I'll hook it up to compare.
>
> Max NG7M
>
> On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 10:22 PM, Nr4c  wrote:
>
>> I commented on this over a year ago and was tole that it was not
>> possible. BUT IT STILL DOES IT!
>>
>> Thanks for your input.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> ...nr4c. bill
>>
>>
>> > On Mar 5, 2017, at 8:43 PM, M. George 
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I just noticed that I have low audio output on my K3s rear speaker out
>> when
>> > CONFIG->SPKR+PH is set to no.  I always chalked this up to being able to
>> > hear audio from my headphones sitting on the left side of the desk here,
>> > but I'm getting a low audio out of primarily the left speaker still when
>> > spkr+ph is off.  I'm going out of the speaker output on the K3s KIO3B
>> into
>> > some high end speakers, but I can duplicate the issue with a pair of
>> > headphones too.  So it's not the amplified speakers picking something
>> stray
>> > up.
>> >
>> > The CONFIG AF GAIN is LO and when I switch between LO and HI, the output
>> > gets louder with the SPKR+PH off.  The output is primarily on the left
>> > channel too?  Scratching my head.  A bad relay on the KIO3B?  When I
>> switch
>> > the SPKR+PH to ON, all is well for the left/right output on the output
>> and
>> > of course the volume / AF level goes way up like it should.
>> >
>> > By the way, I have SPKRS set to 2 as expected.  Hmmm... am I missing
>> > something obvious here?  RTFM? :)
>> >
>> > Max NG7M
>> >
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Re: [Elecraft] Linear thoughts

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I have a 2K-FA and as Jim mentions, you can use the bare basic RCA cable to
key it etc...  however, depending on your setup, it's certainly easy to
make up some custom cables  Get some CAT5 stranded cable and read the
manuals (RTFM).  The CAT control input on all the SPE amps have the same
pinout and the amplifiers ship with the DB15 connectors and hoods.  It's
not rocket science to make a cable which is custom to your needs.  Plus,
you can take advantage of the key out on the K3 acc port and have the SPE
amp control TX-INH if you want etc...  making a cable up is probably easy
enough that a typical cave man could do it, if he/she has bare bones
soldering station etc...

Download the manuals and spend some time studying up on what you can do and
how to interface it with your K3... the last time I checked it's still
legal to use a soldering iron and some wire strippers.  If you order up
cables, you will get what you get and there are several different things to
consider when interfacing your rig with an SPE amp.  Why not get what you
want for cheap and learn something long the way rather than paying for some
pre made cables in this case. ;)  And yes, there are cases where we get
older and have a hard time with tiny connectors etc... and our eyes get
bad, so I get that.  Get a ham buddy to help you out.

Anyway... another thread lives on about Elecraft building a KW amp etc...
the Ever-Ready bunny keeps going and going and returning. :)

Max NG7M

Max NG7M

On Thu, Mar 16, 2017 at 10:54 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On Thu,3/16/2017 8:36 PM, James F. Boehner MD via Elecraft wrote:
>
>> Expert Linears Dan Tassell KC5PCB makes up a custom plug-and-play cable
>> for the K3/SPE, so interfacing is really not a problem.
>>
>
> NO special cable is required. All you need is the RCA - RCA keying cable
> between the K3 and the amp and coax for RF. That's all I'm using with an
> SPE-1K. The SPE senses the frequency of RF drive and switches. It also
> recalls previous tunings of the built-in antenna tuner.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] No "REF CAL"

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Go to the CONFIG:TECH MD menu and turn it on... that will enable the other
more technical menu options.

Max NG7M

On Mon, Mar 20, 2017 at 11:15 PM, Eddy Avila  wrote:

> Greetings again, following my KX3 manual rev C5, on pg 31 and menu key, it
> sez to hold menu key and rotate vfo/b to find REF CAL
>
>
> Following manual I never see REF CAL  !
>
>
> Any suggestions?
>
>
> Tnx and 73
>
>
> k6sdw
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[Elecraft] RigExpert TI-5 with K3 Cable Set / Pictures

[M. George]

Up for sale if my RigExpert TI-5 with factory K3 cable set, original box,
manual etc...

If someone wants to add KIO3B functionality to their K3 for a lot less than
the upgrade to the KIO3B, this is a very clean and slick solution.  With
the TI-5, you have one USB cable to your computer and then the cable set
plugs direct into the back of the K3.  You can think of it as an external
KIO3B with FSK built in.  With the single USB connection, you get a sound
card interface which uses the standard USB Codec just like the KIO3B, plus
4 virtual serial ports which cover CAT interfacing to the K3, FSK input to
the K3 (no keying interface circuit required), CW keying and PTT via one of
the virtual ports if desired and last but not least a WinKey compatible
serial port for CW keying of your K3 where there is a paddle input on the
TI-5.  Damn, I'm almost talking myself out of selling it by describing it!
;)

It's a nice little interface, but I have a K3s now and I upgraded my K3
KIO3A to the KIO3B.  So the IT-5 needs a new home.

I'm asking $125.00 shipped to the CONUS... or a reasonable offer based on
how many responses I get.

Here are a couple of pictures of what you get:

http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%2FRigExpert%2FTI-5%2FIMG_1892.JPG

http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%2FRigExpert%2FTI-5%2FIMG_1891.JPG

The TI-5 has been superseded by newer versions, but the new versions have
removed the WinKeyer built in interface.  All the downloads for the TI-5
are on the RigExpert website.

Thanks for reading.

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Re: [Elecraft] RigExpert TI-5 with K3 Cable Set / Pictures

[M. George]

The RigExpert TI-5 has been sold.  Thanks for looking.  Max NG7M

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 9:42 AM, M. George 
wrote:

> Up for sale if my RigExpert TI-5 with factory K3 cable set, original box,
> manual etc...
>
> If someone wants to add KIO3B functionality to their K3 for a lot less
> than the upgrade to the KIO3B, this is a very clean and slick solution.
> With the TI-5, you have one USB cable to your computer and then the cable
> set plugs direct into the back of the K3.  You can think of it as an
> external KIO3B with FSK built in.  With the single USB connection, you get
> a sound card interface which uses the standard USB Codec just like the
> KIO3B, plus 4 virtual serial ports which cover CAT interfacing to the K3,
> FSK input to the K3 (no keying interface circuit required), CW keying and
> PTT via one of the virtual ports if desired and last but not least a WinKey
> compatible serial port for CW keying of your K3 where there is a paddle
> input on the TI-5.  Damn, I'm almost talking myself out of selling it by
> describing it! ;)
>
> It's a nice little interface, but I have a K3s now and I upgraded my K3
> KIO3A to the KIO3B.  So the IT-5 needs a new home.
>
> I'm asking $125.00 shipped to the CONUS... or a reasonable offer based on
> how many responses I get.
>
> Here are a couple of pictures of what you get:
>
> http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%
> 2FRigExpert%2FTI-5%2FIMG_1892.JPG
>
> http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%
> 2FRigExpert%2FTI-5%2FIMG_1891.JPG
>
> The TI-5 has been superseded by newer versions, but the new versions have
> removed the WinKeyer built in interface.  All the downloads for the TI-5
> are on the RigExpert website.
>
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[Elecraft] FS: Billet Bronze Chrome K3/K3S A/B VFO Knobs / Pictures

[M. George]

I have been cleaning up my shack and I have a 'like new' set of Chrome
replacement knobs
<http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FElecraft%2FBronze+VFO+Knobs/>
for a K3 or K3S.  They are really nice, and I know a lot of operators
really like thess heaver knobs on their K3/S.

It appears that the seller in Bulgaria is no longer selling these.  I can't
find them anymore via google.
They just didn't fit the way I like to tune the K3, after I used them for a
little while.  So they are up for sell if someone is interested.  I think I
paid around $140? and it was a special order to get the VFO B knob inset
with the black color to match the VFO A knob.  I would let them go for $90
(paypal preferred) shipped to the 'CONUS' / to your door or make me a
reasonable offer.  They are getting lonely inside the original box from
Bulgaria. ;)

Max NG7M

Direct link to the pictures... these are pictures I took of the actual
knobs you would be buying.

http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FElecraft%2FBronze+VFO+Knobs/

P.S. please don't start / resurrect a new/old thread on if heavy knobs are
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Re: [Elecraft] question about the KX3

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You should be able to send CAT commands to key FSK on your KX3.  K8ZT has a
good write up on doing this in N1MM+:

http://k8zt.blogspot.com/2016/07/using-elecraft-kx3kx3-ky-codes-to-allow.html

mg

On Tue, Mar 28, 2017 at 5:06 PM, Rick  wrote:

> Can anyone tell me whether the KX3 can operate FSK (not AFSK) using an
> input from a computer, not the CW key?
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Re: [Elecraft] FS: K2 Weighted Knob

[M. George]

I had them installed on a K3 with a serial number 6384 which was purchased
in March of 2012.  I didn't know there was a change on the shaft size, so
this is good to know.

mg NG7M

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 9:49 AM, Jim Allen  wrote:

> Is this for the 6 mm shaft or the newer 1/4" shaft?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] [OT] Morse is back!!

[M. George]

Yeah, its be been back for 5 years now.  That was from 2012 April fools
5 years ago.  I suspect that Google has something new out today. ;)

On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 11:17 AM, Doug Turnbull  wrote:

>
> Dear OMs and YLs,
> We CW ops will be happy with this piece; Morse is back:
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1KhZKNZO8mQ
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Re: [Elecraft] kx2 utility for linux on Raspberry Pi

[M. George]

This (ExaGear desktop) might be worth a try/look for those interested in
seeing if they can get the kx2util software to run on a Raspberry Pi.  Wine
as a Win32 emulator on it's own won't work with an ARM processor, but the
ExaGear desktop claims to bridge the gap to allow x86 code to execute with
Wine on an ARM processor..

https://eltechs.com/product/exagear-desktop/

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Re: [Elecraft] Sub Receiver & KBPF3

[M. George]

I don't see what all the consternation is about either.  Its not that big
of a deal and I have the K3XREF (a little less room) in a K3s and a K3 and
both radios have the sub receiver.  Fiddly???

really?
I don't think so.  You need to consider the design!  This isn't a 60lb
transceiver we are talking about that you can't upgrade hardly at all.
The foot print and weight as compared to the performance can't be beat and
the modular design is very impressive.  It's a portable radio!  For real!
And if you want to talk PITA, try rolling a 60 lb radio around to remove
this, that or the other.

Taking out a couple of screws and gently lifting up the sub receiver and
remove the coax connections?  Sheesh... it's like it was the end of the
world or something.  Take a few pictures with your phone and take your time
and RTFM!.  Its not like there is a need to remove the sub receiver on a
weekly basis.  I swear, I think if you were to give a $20 bill to some
folks, they would complain that you didn't give them two $10 bills. :)
 Just take your time and install things back again and refer to your
pictures from your phone and did I mention RTFM?.  And on another note the
sub receiver as installed is solid and sound mechanically IMHO.

Maybe if I was 99 years old and my fingers were the size of uncooked
bratwursts and my thumbs were the size of cucumbers, then it would be
Fiddly (and I chewed my thumb and finger nails profusely).  I say move on
folks!  Off my soab box... it's getting Fiddly
up
here!

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Re: [Elecraft] K3S + P3 + SPE Amp

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Hi David, I have a 2K-FA interfaced with a K3s.  I don't have a P3 in the
mix, but I made a YouTube video back in March that describes in detail
(maybe too much detail!) how I use Win4K3Suite and com0com to share the CAT
interface on the K3s.  My solution leaves the RJ45/RS232 out of the mix
with the 2K-FA integration so that I believe you could still use the
special P3 cable along with the output of the RJ45/RS232 to allow your P3
to follow your K3s.

You could also accomplish what I'm doing in the video with LP-Bridge to
share the CAT IO on the K3s, however I prefer Win4K3Suite with the com0com
virtual serial port pairs.  I get into the details in the video.

Anyway, here is a link to the video
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8Gyl0amRY&t=485s>: (
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8Gyl0amRY&t=485s)  In general this video
will give you some ideas on sharing the CAT interface with several software
applications and hardware (the 2K-FA in this case).  Plus I go into detail
on the interface cable and wire up the 2K-FA to use transmit inhibit and
external ALC with the amp. (both easily turned off in the K3/S if you so
desire on the fly).  You won't use the external ALC in this case to control
the output level on the 2K-FA... again, I discuss this in the video.
EXTALC in this case is only a safety measure to let the amp back off the
drive of the K3s.

I hope you find the video helpful... Max NG7M

On Sun, Jun 4, 2017 at 10:43 PM, David Holton 
wrote:

> Gentlemen,
>
>
>
> My first post to the list , although an avid reader.
>
> Has anyone here done the connection of a K3S plus a P3 Panadaptor with the
> P3SVGA and Monitor functions , to a SPE 2K Amp?
>
> Is there special cabling?
>
> What Config Menu settings are used?
>
>
>
> The cable supplied with the Amp is a DB15M (amp end) to a DE9M (K3S end). I
> am using this in conjunction with the Elecraft  Cable E980297 which is an
> RJ45 to DE9 Female. Config menu is set to RS232 at 9600 Baud , this works
> fine and the amp follows the K3S.  However I lose the Frequency readout on
> the P3 by having to disconnect the CBLY3Y Y cable at the RJ45 connector on
> the back of the K3S. If I connect the DE9m of the supplied Amp cable to the
> DE9 of the "Y" cable , when plugged into the K3S , amp will not Band change
> from K3S.
>
>
>
> Is there another method of cabling so as One does not lose control of the
> P3?
>
>
>
> Thanks & Regards
>
> David
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> VK4DH
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Re: [Elecraft] Using the K3s with a Tokyo Hy-Power HL-1.5KFX amp.

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A quick google search will return this link for the manual in pdf format:

http://www.radiomanual.info/schemi/ACC_PA/Tokyo_Hy-power_HL-1.5KFX_user.pdf

Page 14 has the details on making a cable for band data / switching.  Setup
a cable for the Kenwood and match the details for the ACC port on the K3.
I suspect you should be good to go.  I don't see any cable making 'rocket
science' that would be required. :)

Max NG7M

On Mon, Jun 5, 2017 at 8:33 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> Send me a manual in PDF for your amp and I'll take a look  I've been
> making custom cables for 20+ years
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> > Is there a cable available to allow automatic band switching of this
> > amp from the K3s?(Or advice on how to make one up.)   The amp and
> > rig work well together, but automatic band switching would be nice!
> > The only reference I have found online refers to adding pull up
> > resistors to the (older) K3 board. (KI03?)
> >
> > Thanks for any suggestions.
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operating Time Sync

[M. George]

Jim, it's all a matter of how long the JT software on the receive side /
transmit side is written implemented.  It's simply a window where your
software is listening, there is nothing going on then then when to start
listening and when to stop listening / when to start transmitting and when
to stop transmitting.. The point I was trying to make was that in a pinch,
you should be able to use WWB and manually synch your clock within a
second.  All is not lost if you don't have a NTP implementation with
internet access.  Getting your clock with-in 1 second of WWB is not rocket
science if you can hear the signal, and there are other HF transmitted time
sources than WWB for other parts of the world.  Plus most OS
implementations of NTP will only sync your clock on a weekly basis and
depending on how bad your PC clock is in parts per million PPM, a week of
no synch could have you off by many seconds if not by a minutes.  Google
would be a good place to start if you are looking of manual ways to sync
your clock...  The Elecraft reflector is not the first place I would start,
but it is a way to generate a bunch of email messages and get a bunch of
opinions, there is no question about that. :)

The JT modes are so unbelievably slow and painful, you can multitask and
watch a baseball game at the same time you are working stations every 5
minutes (JT mode  water boarding at 5 minutes per Q in the best scenario).
You could do a SO8R setup and still have time to drink a cup a coffee while
you are keeping track of everytihng. ;)  With all time you have between TX
and RX, someone might want to look (google it up?) at the spec and see what
the published window is suppose to be.  And yes, of course if one station
is 2 seconds fast and another station is 2 seconds slow, you might have a
problem because the software on both ends misses the start or finish where
each station's clock is off in opposite directions.  I'm sure there are
whole JT mode related groups where you can spend hours and hours talking
about how accurate your clock should be.  It's a total yawner mode, but
hey, it's still fun at times.. I'll admit to that.  ;)

Max NG7M


On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 1:28 PM, Jim Brown 
wrote:

> On Thu,6/15/2017 11:59 AM, Matthew George wrote:
>
>>   The jt modes will be fine even if you are a second or two off.
>>
>
> Two seconds is stretching it. I've seen very strong JT65 signals that
> don't decode with a time error of 1.7 sec!
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Remote Operating Time Sync

[M. George]

I should have mentioned that there is an obvious way to sync your clock for
JT mode operation... per the spec:

The JT65 protocol states that a transmission will begin at precisely 1
second into a new minute and end 46.811 seconds later.

So if you have no time source and if you can't hear WWV and you have no
internet... just sync up with the other signals you hear.  Get your clock
setting routine ready to roll for 1 second past the current minute and wait
for the beginning of a melee of signals / JT transmit cycle.  It might take
you a few tries, but you will be good to go.  It certainly doesn't need to
be perfect or in the millisecond time frame.  Use your ear and sync your
clock to one second past the current minute.

On another topic... for a couple years now I have hosted and run a Stratum
1 ntp time server (as many others around the globe have, this is nothing
new).  If you want to point to a dedicated stratum 1 NTP server that is GPS
synchronized (and runs in the low nano (yes it's in the low nano range)
second accuracy range), point your NTP configuration / Windows time sync
configuration to: time.nc7j.com  (via NTP over the internet, the best you
will do is usually mid micro second accuracy if you have a fairly low ping
time to the source... I'm in Syracuse Utah with my host IP out of Salt Lake
City for this ntp server)

You can see the status of my NTP server here: http://www.pool.ntp.org/
scores/time.nc7j.com

If you are in the US, you will get a much more accurate consistent sync
from time.nc7j.com than you would from other pooled sources.

Max NG7M

On Thu, Jun 15, 2017 at 12:59 PM, Matthew George  wrote:

> Tune in to wwv and synchronize your clock.  The jt modes will be fine even
> if you are a second or two off.  Or get a gps and synch to the gps clock
> via nema.  Use google and search on all your options.  You could setup nptd
> on your mac and use a pps signal from a gps too.  Max Ng7m
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> > On Jun 15, 2017, at 12:46 PM, James Bennett  wrote:
> >
> > I have a MacBook Pro Retina Display running Sierra 10.12.5 that I use
> with my KX3 when operating portable. Part of my operating is done with
> WSJT-X, for JT65 and JT9 modes. This software is very time sync critical -
> the computer clock needs to be within +- one second accuracy. Here at home
> on my wireless network connected to our cable company, works great.
> >
> > However, a recent trip to the southern Philippines as DU8/W6JHB with
> this equipment was an eye-opener. I completely forgot that the laptop clock
> would not keep that sort of accuracy without having Internet access. I saw
> many signals, but WSJT-X decoded nothing at first. Luckily I realized what
> was happening and was able to access and connect to the WiFi network at the
> resort we were staying at. This connection provided the accuracy the
> software needed and all was good.
> >
> > But - when we return on our next "vacation" we may not have the luxury
> of a resort having WiFi for it's guests. So, I'm looking for some sort of
> device that I can use to keep the laptop clock accurate. Internet access
> would be a bonus, but of most importance is that internal clock.
> >
> > Any suggestions? By the way, a mega-buck device is pretty much out of
> the question. Just ask my wife... :-)
> >
> > 73, Jim
> >
> > Jim Bennett / W6JHB
> > Folsom, CA
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[Elecraft] OT: PI Zero W Desktop Clock Project / Video / For the Time Obsessed Ham

[M. George]

I just finished a fun project that can be found on hackaday.io by Nick
Sayer.  This is for the time obsessed / time nut Ham.  Below is a link to a
couple of one take videos <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXFDt3PBJg> I
made of the clock.  It's a nice piece of eye candy in the shack for the
truly 'time obsessed ham' (eye rolling is appropriate!).  In conjunction
with your NTP synchronized PC, you can sleep at night knowing you are
transmitting and listening to the JT modes at the right time. ;) (as you
take a nap between TX and RX)

YouTube Video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXFDt3PBJg>:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAXFDt3PBJg

Pictures
<http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FRaspberry+PI%2FPI+Zero+W%2FDesktop+NTP+Clock>
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http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FRaspberry+PI%2FPI+Zero+W%2FDesktop+NTP+Clock

I have no connection to the creator of the project, Nick Sayer on
hackaday.io
<https://hackaday.io/project/20156-raspberry-pi-zero-w-desk-clock>, but I
suspect he might get a few more looks at this project now:
https://hackaday.io/project/20156-raspberry-pi-zero-w-desk-clock

Enjoy, Max NG7M

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Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite

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Tom, this new release with the optimization of the polling for the CAT data
sharing from the K3(s) is a big improvement.  Well done.  With the new
release the CAT data update in N1MM+ as shared from Win4K3Suite is very
smooth and responsive... I share CAT data to an SDA100 SteppIR controller
and to an SPE 2K-FA.  The frequency data updates hit all the devices in
near real-time now through the com port sharing with com0com.

Max NG7M

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Tom  wrote:

> Hello,
> There is a new release of Win4K3Suite for the Elecraft K3-S, KX3, and
> KX2.  This release provides polling performance improvements and fixes an
> issue with the compression and monitor sliders.
>
> Win4K3Suite is the ultimate computer control and integration program for
> your Elecraft Radio.  It interfaces with all Elecraft hardware allowing
> even the KX2 to control and integrate the KPA500 and KAT500.  In addition,
> it has built in virtual port technology which allows up to 4 software or
> hardware devices to share the radio.  Integrates with HRD LogBook and
> DM780, DXLab, Log4OM, you name it!  Includes a built in Panadapter
> supporting LPPAN, and SDRPlay.
> You can see an overview here:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVlc9x0IoU
>
> and some reviews here:
> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11214
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Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite

[M. George]

Tom, double checked and I'm feeding the SteppIR SDA100 off the K3s RS232
data out port... On the K3s you have the USB serial interface and when you
are in the USB mode the K3s still has a read only output on the RS323
port.  So in the case of the SDA100 and my K3s, I'm not using a com0com
pair to share the CAT feed.  I also have a K3 that only has the RS232 I/O
and when I was using it, I had a com0com pair setup to share the output to
the SteppIR in a readonly mode as configured in Win4K3Suite.

At the end of the day right now, it's so easy to get 4 full CAT feeds setup
if required.  I can have N1MM++ going along with DXLab Commander and the
full feed to my SPE 2K-FA.  Its nice to know I can add more gadgets as
needed to get the K3s CAT feed.  I have been tempted to ask you if there
would be potential to add additional port sharing... bump up from 4 ports
to 6 etc... maybe we can take that off the Elecraft list.

Thanks Max NG7M

On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 8:19 PM, tomb18  wrote:

> Cool.
> Just for my info, how are you using the steppir?
> 73 Tom
>
>
>
> Sent from my Samsung Galaxy smartphone.
>
> -------- Original message 
> From: "M. George" 
> Date: 2017-07-07 9:52 PM (GMT-05:00)
> To: Tom 
> Cc: Elecraft 
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] New release of Win4K3Suite
>
> Tom, this new release with the optimization of the polling for the CAT
> data sharing from the K3(s) is a big improvement.  Well done.  With the new
> release the CAT data update in N1MM+ as shared from Win4K3Suite is very
> smooth and responsive... I share CAT data to an SDA100 SteppIR controller
> and to an SPE 2K-FA.  The frequency data updates hit all the devices in
> near real-time now through the com port sharing with com0com.
>
> Max NG7M
>
> On Fri, Jul 7, 2017 at 10:06 AM, Tom  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>> There is a new release of Win4K3Suite for the Elecraft K3-S, KX3, and
>> KX2.  This release provides polling performance improvements and fixes an
>> issue with the compression and monitor sliders.
>>
>> Win4K3Suite is the ultimate computer control and integration program for
>> your Elecraft Radio.  It interfaces with all Elecraft hardware allowing
>> even the KX2 to control and integrate the KPA500 and KAT500.  In addition,
>> it has built in virtual port technology which allows up to 4 software or
>> hardware devices to share the radio.  Integrates with HRD LogBook and
>> DM780, DXLab, Log4OM, you name it!  Includes a built in Panadapter
>> supporting LPPAN, and SDRPlay.
>> You can see an overview here:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=htVlc9x0IoU
>>
>> and some reviews here:
>> http://www.eham.net/reviews/detail/11214
>>
>> 73 Tom
>> va2fsq.com
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Re: [Elecraft] Flash mob experiment, 21040 +/- 5 kHz, now until 2100 Z

[M. George]

Wayne, the NAQP RTTY contesting going on... it started at 1800Z today.  It
goes for 12 hours.  There are a lot of signals on 15 meters, about half as
many as I'm seeing on 20 meters here in Utah.

Max NG7M

On Sat, Jul 15, 2017 at 2:04 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> Based on info from dxmaps.com, 15 meters should be open. Hearing a few
> signals.
>
> If you’d like to participate in a 15 meter “flash mob” experiment, please
> drop by on 21040 +/- 5 kHz. Initially, callsigns ending in A-L listen, M-Z
> call CQ (myself included).
>
> Not a contest, no rules, no award credit, just an excuse to get on the air.
>
> 73,
> Wayne
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[Elecraft] NG7M / 2 Videos on FSK RTTY timings generated with EXTFSK/64 on new and older PC's via USB FTDI Com Ports

[M. George]

This is a bit of a cross post related to Elecraft K3/K3S internal FSK
timings generated with a USB FDTI chipset com port. I wanted to get some
hard measured numbers in a video so I took the time to make the following
two videos.  Sorry if you are subscribed to multiple lists and get a
duplicate or two on the video links.  I do think it's interesting... if you
can make it through my verbose videos!  They don't lack for details on
making sure I'm transparent with the setup.  If anything, it will give
something to reference as the discussion/debate continues.

Video #1 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN0SlOHcMQw> Showing Higher End
PC's Generating FSK Diddle Timings:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FN0SlOHcMQw

Video #2 <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L48mebqLigs> (new as of this
morning) Showing a 13 year old single core, 1.1ghz Pentium Laptop
Generating FSK Diddle Times (32 bit Win 7 with MMTTY):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L48mebqLigs

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[Elecraft] NG7M / 2 Videos on FSK RTTY timings generated with EXTFSK/64 on new and older PC's via USB FTDI Com Ports

[M. George]

 displays
etc... please, see the #1 video, I detail all of this out.

In the first video above you are going to see what really is the bleeding
edge of single thread performance in a 6 core (12 logical thread Intel i7
8700K).  Believe me, what you described as a heavy load contest situation
is a stroll through the park on an i7 8700K.  It's really laughable load
for an 8700K.  And when I say laughable, I mean laughable. Please, if you
haven't done so... watch the first video. The jitter presented there under
high load while recording 4K video is in the 10s of microseconds.  Under
typical contest load the CPU in the demonstration wouldn't even break a
sweat.

If I was to pick a starting point (which is anecdotal really) for a contest
level computer, running CAT feeds and multiple serial devices and a heavy
RBN cluster feed etc... I would say that a true 4 core second or 3rd
generation Intel CPU is a good start.  However, my experience is that the
quad core AMD's do a fine job too if you don't get too crazy.

Also, has anyone actually tried to document and do any real world
measurements on SNR and FSK RTTY jitter at some repeatable level where we
have some real world numbers to back things up?  I certainly haven't.  I
would love to see some video and data.  If someone is so included, I think
you should make the measurements and present the data.  I would really love
to see it.  Take the time to setup the testing and make it repeatable and
present the data and video make your conclusions.  Then put it out for peer
review and discussion.  This is what makes this all interesting.

Again, please watch all the content in my videos, so we know we are on the
same page as to what we are talking about.  And thanks again for watching
if you have already completed reviewing all the content.

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[Elecraft] NG7M / 2 Videos on FSK RTTY timings generated with EXTFSK/64 on new and older PC's via USB FTDI Com Ports

[M. George]

Joe, your 2010 data (which you haven't looked up and provided, but I assume
exists? from 8 years ago) isn't a good comparison to changes at the OS, CPU
/ hardware level between 2010 and 2018.  You are very good at telling
everyone the way things are, but not very good at showing folks the way
things are / work with actual experiments and data / video.

This exercise isn't productive until you actually watch all of my content
and start reproducing my results on a scope etc... If you are not willing
to do that in 2018 with your own equipment and continue to rely on
microHam's numbers from 2010... (or someone else's data) There is no point
to the discussion.  A lot has changed since 2010.  Plus I made it crystal
clear in my video that my main computer setup is much faster than most
other Ham shack computers at the moment (2018). You act like I expected
everyone to have the same setup... which clearly shows that you cherry
picked sections out of the video to confirm your preconceived conclusions
before every clicking on the video links.  You insist on leaving out all
the detail provided in the Video, because it can't be conveyed via a few
paragraphs of text in an email.

As usual, (which is well known), you will get the last word in... Until you
produce something new for 2018, a response from myself isn't productive at
all.  And will not take place.  For now I'll let my video speak to the
experiment and 2018 current state of what I recorded.  As I do other tests
and present other findings, I will be willing to change my
understanding/conjecture/opinion based on data collected and presented.

In the 2017 CQWWRTTY contest (using a 5 year old Ivy Bridge i7 Intel cpu)
with my K3S / internal FSK keyed by the same FTDI serial interface in my
video presented this last week, I'm shocked I was able to work 1285 QSO's
and 184 band countries.  My FSK generated signal on the other end of the
QSO's must have been horrible with this setup (jitter all over the place
I'm sure).

Band QSOs Pts  ZN   Cty  SP   Pt/Q
 3.5  62  7486   30   1.2
   7 338 599   27   58   50   1.8
  14 6891519   31   84   50   2.2
  21 194 370   23   34   37   1.9
  28   2   4221   2.0
   Total12852566   91  184  168   2.0

Score : 1,136,738

I look forward to your updated data and visuals / video using data gathered
from 2018.  That will be very interesting indeed.

73 de Max NG7M


>W4TV:
​Unfortunately, your first video is completely unrealistic as the vast
majority of amateurs uses computers significantly less powerful than
your lightly loaded (less than 40% CPU utilization by your own video)
six core, 3+ GHz CPU with the EXTFSK port on a dedicated motherboard
USB port with no loading from multiple (high priority) sound cards
(they are on a different USB Root Hub) and no contest level cluster
spots.

From my customer support support experience, the typical amateur station
is a 2-2.4 GHz Core2Duo (two cores, 4 execution units) with 1 GB RAM and
all USB ports (typically 4) served by a single USB Root Hub.  The system
typically runs a logging program that polls one or two transceivers for
eight parameters every 50 to 100 msec along with one or two 96 or 192
KHz sample rate USB sound cards for a software panadapter (or
equivalent USB I/Q SDR receivers) and another 16 bit, 48 KHz sample
rate USB sound card for digital operation.  In addition, those systems
are connected to a DXCluster node with CW/RTTY Skimmer providing a
net spot flow of > 100 spots per minute.

I've provided jitter data as measured by microHAM in 2010 multiple times
on the RTTY list ... and that data has been verified by JA7UDE (author
of EXTFSK an ETFSK64) who also confirms the added jitter when the USB
system (single USB Root Hub) is loaded with heavy data transfer.  Oba's
results have also been reported on the RTTY list and are available on
his EXTFSK64 page.

73,
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[Elecraft] K3S Won't Power Up / Obvious Things checked...

[M. George]

Hi, this morning I got off on a tangent (when I should have been running
JA's in the WPX contest on 40m at 6 points a Q!).  My K3S has been powering
back on right after powering it off.  As I was diagnosing things and
removing the ACC connection etc... on one of the power off attempts it
stopped coming on at all??  I reverted to my backup K3 and finished my
lackluster effort in the contesting and now I'm scratching my head over the
K3S not powering up.  If I removed the acc connector the K3S would stay
powered off... and I don't have anything on pin 8 for the remote power
on... anyway, the bigger issue now is that I can't get it to power back on.

I checked the obvious stuff like the breaker on the back and then pulled
out the KPA100 and removed the bottom panel to poke around and check the
polarity protection diodes.  I'm not seeing anything obvious and the diodes
are fine,  I'm getting voltage to the mosfet source pins 1,2 and 3 on
switching package U2 (DMP4015SSSQ)... the typical diodes along that path
check out fine from what I can tell where the drain pints 4,6,7, 8 send
power to the external 12v RCA jack on the back of the K3S.  However
pressing the power button doesn't seem to be charging the gate on the
package and there is likely some other circuit in the mix anyway.

I also tried the 10 second power button hold to get into the MCU boot
loader mode, thinking something got jacked up on one of the power off power
on cycles and I need to reload the firmware of something... nothing...
There is no life at all or any indication of power in the front panel
etc...  It's a sick little puppy!

If anyone knows something I couldn't find via google, I'm all ears, and
I'll fire off an email to Elecraft support and ship it in for service.  I'm
not sure I want to get too crazy chasing thing down from the front panel
all the way though.

Thanks for reading.  Max NG7M

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[Elecraft] Win4K3Suite YouTube Video - Detailed - Demo on creating and using Virtual K3/S CAT Ports with Software and Hardware

[M. George]

For those that want a highly detailed overview and demo of CAT sharing
across software and hardware with Win4K3Suite, I just posted a 57 minute
YouTube video. <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U>  Here is a
link to the diagram
<http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%2FWin4K3Suite%2FStation+Diagram%2FNG7M-Win4K3Suite-CAT-Control-Station-Diagram.jpg>
used in the video.  My only connection to Win4K3Suite is that I'm a happy
customer and continue to be impressed by how stable it is and how well it
facilitates the creation of virtual K3 CAT feeds which are transparent to
software and hardware you are using in your shack.

The video is very detailed and if you find this interesting, you might find
it useful to jump back 10 seconds and forward 10 seconds at a time using
the 'J' and 'L' keys while you are watching from youtube.com.

Video Link direct: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U
Station Diagram direct link:
http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%2FWin4K3Suite%2FStation+Diagram%2FNG7M-Win4K3Suite-CAT-Control-Station-Diagram.jpg

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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Odd ALC behavior

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and an oscilloscope
>>>>>> today.  I had the same problem as described.  Looking at my USB soundcard
>>>>>> output to the K3, the amplitude of the audio from FLDIGI in TUNE mode was
>>>>>> rock solid. Looking at the MON output from the K3, the level oscillated 
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> time with the ALC "pumping" at about 2.4 Hz (timed with a stop watch).  
>>>>>> At
>>>>>> the same time the K3 power output into a dummy load was rock solid at a
>>>>>> selected 10 watts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Then I changed the carrier frequency in FLDIGI slightly off 1500 Hz
>>>>>> and the "pumping" went away!  At 1515 Hz I could easily set the ALC to 
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> desired 4 bars solid, 5th flickering.  Then I remembered (and verified)
>>>>>> that the default filter center in DATA A mode is 1500 Hz. I changed the
>>>>>> filter center frequency to 1450 Hz and moved the FLDIGI frequency around
>>>>>> but couldn't reproduce the "pumping".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I plan to repeat the same tests with WSJT-X 1.8 but wanted to get
>>>>>> this out to the group.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Brian, K0DTJ
>>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Odd ALC behavior

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"pumping" affect with carrier tones of 1000,
>>>>>> 1500 and 2000 Hz (couldn't select 500 Hz).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The affect is very narrow with frequency.  10 Hz either way and the
>>>>>> output and ALC display and MON output is rock solid.  Changing the K3
>>>>>> filter center frequency has no effect on the above.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>> Brian, K0DTJ
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/4/2017 10:58, Brian Hunt wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spent some quality time with my K3, FLDIGI and an oscilloscope
>>>>>>> today.  I had the same problem as described.  Looking at my USB 
>>>>>>> soundcard
>>>>>>> output to the K3, the amplitude of the audio from FLDIGI in TUNE mode 
>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>> rock solid. Looking at the MON output from the K3, the level oscillated 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> time with the ALC "pumping" at about 2.4 Hz (timed with a stop watch).  
>>>>>>> At
>>>>>>> the same time the K3 power output into a dummy load was rock solid at a
>>>>>>> selected 10 watts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I changed the carrier frequency in FLDIGI slightly off 1500 Hz
>>>>>>> and the "pumping" went away!  At 1515 Hz I could easily set the ALC to 
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> desired 4 bars solid, 5th flickering.  Then I remembered (and verified)
>>>>>>> that the default filter center in DATA A mode is 1500 Hz. I changed the
>>>>>>> filter center frequency to 1450 Hz and moved the FLDIGI frequency around
>>>>>>> but couldn't reproduce the "pumping".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I plan to repeat the same tests with WSJT-X 1.8 but wanted to get
>>>>>>> this out to the group.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 73,
>>>>>>> Brian, K0DTJ
>>>>>>>
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Re: [Elecraft] "Contester's Spectral Display" feature of N1MM software will be supported soon

[M. George]

This is great news.  I knew Tom was working something out Wayne, but it's
nice to see the confirmation here.  It's been nice to see Win4K3Suite
progress on the feature set.  This will be icing on the cake with the new
N1MM+ spectrum display along with all the other features of Win4K3Suite.
K3/s settings software control / CAT sharing etc...

Max NG7M



On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 1:12 PM, Wayne Burdick  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> You may have heard that the popular N1MM program now has a “contester’s
> spectral display” window. Very soon, we anticipate a new release of N1MM
> that provides support for this feature when used with the K3, K3S, and KX3.
> (The Win4k3 software package was just modified to provide the spectral data
> that N1MM needs. Thanks to Tom, VA2FSQ, for fast-tracking this addition.)
>
> I’ve already seen the demo, which is quite impressive. When the release is
> finalized, we’ll do another announcement with full details.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3: Frequency Stability of radio

[M. George]

Here is a link to the K3EXREF, it will explain how it works the REFCAL
will adjust dynamically based on the reference input... what you tune to
will stand on frequency as far as the frequency displayed, just the
reference frequency will adjust on the fly.

http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3%20EXREF%20Installation%20and%20Operation%20Manual.pdf

mg NG7M

On Sat, Aug 12, 2017 at 5:00 PM, Dave Cole  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> I use a program called SBSpectrum to graph very subtle changes in Doppler
> of the Ionosphere, while using WWV as a standard.  The changes are on the
> order of only a few Hz at most.
>
> I have noted the K3 makes frequency corrections every few minutes in
> discrete steps.  These steps are too large for what I want.
>
> If I add an external frequency standard, like a GPSDO, will the K3 still
> display these steps in frequency correction, or will the K3 simply lock to
> the external signal source and not move in frequency?
>
> I asked this once before about a year ago, and got an answer, but I have
> forgotten that answer...  Sorry for the repeat question.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Win4K3 and Elad S2

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I don't believe the Elad is supported... I would ask Tom via the support
email listed on the Win4K3 website, he is very responsive. mg NG7M

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 6:50 AM, Dan Atchison via Elecraft <
elecraft@mailman.qth.net> wrote:

> Has anyone successfully installed Win4K3 + an Elad FDM-S2 for spectrum
> control?
>
> 73,
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Re: [Elecraft] Time Syncronization

[M. George]

I use the free Meinberg NTP build on Windows 10.

https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm

It disables the windows time service and runs as a service, plus there is a
cool monitor you can download too.  This full ntp implementation will
discipline your clock and allow you to select your ntp servers.  By far
this NTP time sync service will keep your clock synchronized better than
anything else even if not connected to the internet.  It will determine the
drift of your clock in PPM and continually tweak it via PLL logic to keep
it in check.

I also run a stratum 1 NTP server you can use if you like when you install
the Meinberg build of NTP: time.nc7j.com

Max NG7M

On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 6:48 AM, rich hurd WC3T  wrote:

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>
> On Wed, Sep 13, 2017 at 07:26 Krug261--- via Elecraft <
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> > After 15 years away from radio, I'm back, and want to enter the digital
> > modes. (How things have changed!) There is much opinion that a computer's
> > onboard time system (Win 10 for me) is inadequate for digital, e.g., the
> > WSJT-X user manual. So...
> > 1. Is this a correct assumption in all/most cases?
> > 2. Assuming you do feel it's necessary, which synchronization program
> > would you suggest? Considerations: ease of installation, ease of
> operation
> > (fully behind the scenes transparent?), least "invasive", etc.
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Re: [Elecraft] SDRPlay as panadapter

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I used a SDRPlay RSP1 for awhile after using an LP-PAN2 with a
Win4K3Suite.  It didn't take me long to switch back to the LP-PAN2.  The
RSP1 was horrible in crowded band conditions like a contest or a DX
pileup... the display and noise floor would pump up and down really bad and
was very annoying.  I have been tempted to try the RSP2 which is out now
because it has band filtering...

Anyway, the LP-PAN2 setup has 30dB better filtering and the fact that you
are taking the IF out of the K3, you also get the rigs band filtering in
the mix.  If you want performance and are going to try something other than
a P3, I think the LP-PAN2 with Win4K3Suite is the best solution in my
opinion.  The SDRPLay is a very simple setup however with Win4K3Suite where
LP-PAN2 and a sound card will require more setup.

For the total turnkey setup, I suspect the P3 might be the easiest... and
the performance is going to be great too... it's just more $$$ than the
other solutions.

Big thumbs up for Win4K3 Suite however... the latest version also pumps out
a UDP feed for the new N1MM+ spectrum display too, which works very well.

Max NG7M



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> panadapter?  How does this compare with the P3?
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Re: [Elecraft] SPE 1K-FA Amp hookup and ALC Question

[M. George]

I have an SPE 2K-FA I'm using with a K3S... very happy with it.  I made a
verbose YouTube <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8Gyl0amRY> video early
on after I received the amp which gets into the details of making the
interface cable.  (these days guys can pass the Extra Class exam but they
can't make a simple interface cable to an amplifier... ;) )  All of the
details would apply to the 1K-FA.

As others have stated, don't use ALC on the K3 to control the output of
your SPE amp, however it is viable as a safety measure to let the amp drop
the K3 output if it's software deems necessary. (despite what you will read
in the SPE manual where it says just crank the power output on your exciter
all the way up and let the amp control the output via ALC)  I get into the
details around this in the video several times.  You can fast forward and
find the areas you are interested in related to the cable interface to the
K3.

Here is the link to the video again... I hope you find something helpful...
related to your 1K-FA.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8Gyl0amRY

Max NG7M





On Mon, Oct 9, 2017 at 4:05 PM, Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> I agree with Jim, K9YC on the ALC points.
>
> With older radios, namely tube types which required the exciter PA to be
> loaded correctly to be linear, this power level would overdrive many
> amplifiers.   Hence ALC from the amp to the transceiver/transmitter was
> required to control the drive power.
>
> Today's radios have much more accurate power control methods. These
> methods are far superior to those found in most amps.   Most solid state
> amps have adequate protection with regard to overdrive, again ALC from the
> amp to the radio is not needed. And as Jim indicated, if one chooses to use
> ALC from the amp to the transceiver and it is not properly adjusted, one
> can expect signal report issues and unfriendly neighbors on the radio
> spectrum.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 10/9/2017 4:50 PM, Jim Brown wrote:
>
>> On 10/9/2017 12:48 PM, Clay Autery wrote:
>>
>>> I'm being given an SPE 1K-FA for use with my fully current K3s.
>>>
>>> I'm being told that the K3s and SPE don't play well together using "ALC".
>>> A conflicting report is telling me that Elecraft addressed the ALC issue.
>>>
>>
>> I owned one of these amps for a few months, having bought it to get more
>> power on 6M than the KPA500 did.  I didn't like it much. You probably know
>> that ALC should NEVER be used between a rig and an amp to set the output
>> power. That's a recipe for creating harmonics, clicks, and splatter. The
>> right way to do it is to reduce drive power. If you're going to use ALC at
>> all, set output power by reducing drive and use ALC ONLY to protect the amp
>> when something goes wrong with an antenna (like the operator connecting the
>> wrong one). :)
>>
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Re: [Elecraft] K3S and P3 pinout/cable stuff... (How to drive yourself mad integrating an SPE amp into your system)

[M. George]

Clay, you are doing the right thing to make your own cables.  Digging in
and learning all the details will pay off in the long run.  Plus, if you
buy a pre-made cable you will be at the lowest common denominator and end
up fighting it or re-working it down the road when you get new equipment.

Good for you for sticking with it and digging into the manual and details.

Max NG7M

On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 1:25 PM, Clay Autery  wrote:

> In my efforts (more of a quest now it seems) to comprehend the K3s and P3
> pinouts for RS-232 and ACC, et al., I have become convinced it is a
> conspiracy to drive me nuts.
> Trying to figure this all out so I can build a custom cable to connect all
> the following with the indicated functionality:
>
> K3s (to computer via USB, to P3 via CBLP3Y or NEW custom cable
> incorporating CBLP3Y wiring with additions to add SPE)
>
> P3 (using CBLP3Y or custom to accomodate additional Y to SPE for
> RS-232/common)
>
> SPE 1K-FA (CAT, KEY/RELAY, ALC (failsafe only), Remote On, and TX INH via
> CAT connector, AND RS-232 direct to computer via USB)
>
> External Tuner (Denon MLT-2500 for now, Palstar HF-Auto eventually whent
> eh SPE will go in favor of a KPA1500 and this ALL becomes moot)
>
> Questions:
>
> 1) Does the K3s adhere to RS-232 standards on signalling?
> 2) Is the pinout on the RS-232/P3 Port (8P8C, aka RJ45 jack) static, or do
> the signal lines change based on some logic setting in the firmware?
> 3) The E980297 cable (RJ45 to DE9F) pinout has DTR and RTS and the CBLP3Y
> does not  Is this because when this cable is used, the connection to
> the computer is via a serial cable from the P3's PC port (serial)?  And
> with the CBLP3Y, the DTR/RTS traffic goes to the computer via the USB cable?
> 4) Is the K3S a DTE or DCE device?
>
> The TXD/RXD/GND signalling appears to change depending on how the K3s
> "sees" the computer.  Or I am seriously confused... maybe both.  
>
> _*Bottom Line:*_
>
> Can someone give me a DEFINITIVE pinout for ALL 8 pins on the K3S'
> RS232/P3 Port?
>
> Pin 1 is (appears to be secondary/second/#2) an RS-232 Common (ground)
> Pin 2 primary RXD or TXD?
> Pin 3 secondary RXD or TXD?
> Pin 4 is (appears to be primary/first/#1) an RS-232 Common (ground)
> Pin 5 primary RXD or TXD?
> Pin 6 Secondary RXD or TXD?
> Pin 7 is DTR
> Pin 8 is RTS
>
> Bottom of Page 19 in K3S manual gives the RJ45 pinout as follows when
> using the E980297 cable:
>
> _*RJ45   DE9F (P3 XCVR)*_
> 1 NC
> 2 RXD__2 (RXD)
> 3 NC
> 4 Common___5 (Common/GND)
> 5 TXD__3 (TXD)
> 6 NC
> 7 DTR__4 (DTR)
> 8 RTS__7 (RTS)
>
> I need to know what 1,3, and 6 are called on the K3S RS232/P3 (RJ45 port
> before I can figure out the rest of the puzzle they are obviously
> TXD/RXD/GRN set, and #1 is for sure the second ground as shows continuity
> with the other ground using a meter.  But it looks like there is either a
> traffic direction change on some of the signal lines or there's a wired in
> "null modem" crossover somehow when the computer connection goes from the
> serial cable between P3 and computer versus the USB cable between the K3s
> and computer.
>
> Until I verify exactly what each pin is as connected with the CBLP3Y to P3
> and USB from K3s to computer and which way traffic is flowing on each sig
> line, I won't know where to patch in the SPE's RX232 and TX232 lines.
>
> Probably should have just had Dan Tassel make the cable(s), but I like
> making my own cables, and I want to go a bit beyond the "minimum".
>
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Re: [Elecraft] sharing K3 RS232 to CAT and Remoterig

[M. George]

​If you want to share the K3 CAT RS232 port and feed with other hardware,
the best way I have found is using Win4K3Suite.  Not only will Win4K3Suite
let you share the CAT feed of your K3 with multiple software applications
at the same time, but you can do it with physical serial connections too.
Win4K3Suite connects to your K3's direct CAT/RS232 port and then manages
the feed to other physical ports and or virtual RS232 port pairs for
software connections.

For example, I can have N1MM+, DXLab Commander and WSJT-X all sharing the
CAT feed, each program follows the other if you want them all running at
the same time... and beyond that I can setup another connection to my 2K-FA
amp.  In this example, all three software applications think they are
directly connected to the K3.  They all can poll the K3 data and they all
receive the output data.

The latest version of Win4K3Suite lets you setup up to 6 Aux/CAT ports for
this purpose.  They can be virtual com port pairs for software or direct
connections to physical serial ports for an amplifier, SDA100, auto antenna
tuner etc...  It works very well and is rock solid reliable in my
experience.

I have a YouTube video that shows this... around minute 18 of the top of my
head.  In the quick demo in that part of the video I should the 2K-FA
following the K3 along with a couple software apps, N1MM+ and DXLab
Commander, if memory serves me correct.  Jump to minute 18 a watch for a
few minutes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku8Gyl0amRY

I'm assuming this is what you are looking for with your remote rig
connection to your K3.  You want the remote rig box to think it's directly
connected to the K3 at the same time other software and hardware think they
are directly connected.

Win4K3Suite provides the best way to handle this IMHO and I have tried a
number of solutions that will work too... LP-BRIDGE, Omni-Rig etc... but
the other fall short when it comes to a transparent share across software
and hardware.

Max NG7M​

On Tue, Nov 14, 2017 at 1:23 PM, Jorge Diez - CX6VM 
wrote:

> Hello
>
> At my station, I have Elecraft K3, Bandmaster III, SixPack, CAT cable
> connected to K3´s RS232
>
> So when I change bands in the radio, antenna is selected automatically
> through CAT cable and band decoder (Bandmaster III)
>
> Today I connected remoterig box, so needed to remove CAT cable to connect
> remoterig.
>
> So now I lost the feature to change antennas automatically when I change
> bands on the K3
>
> How can I do to share RS232 to have CAT and remoterig at the same time?
>
> thanks,
> Jorge
> CX6VM/CW5W
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

[M. George]

Maybe the following link will be a good way to end this 'never ending
thread' that has now gone off the 'I know what is best for CW and amateur
radio' rails. :)  I hope everyone gets a chuckle out of this meme
<http://www.nc7j.com/downloads/memes/hamradio/mostinterestingcwop.jpg>.

www.nc7j.com/downloads/memes/hamradio/mostinterestingcwop.jpg

8-) Max NG7M

On Mon, Nov 27, 2017 at 8:30 PM, Ron D'Eau Claire  wrote:

> I certainly sympathize with your feelings Fred. I too quit contesting when
> all RSTs were 5NN and rude behavior became acceptable. That was a long,
> long time ago.
>
> I just segue to 30 meters or QRT until the mayhem is over and I can have a
> real QSO with someone.
>
> Operating is, for me, a form of meditation that reduces stress. The hand
> that reaches for my key has gotten a lot older over the past 65 years of
> pounding brass but the effect on me is still the same.  I choose to keep it
> that way.
>
> 73, Ron AC7AC
>
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-bounces@
> mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Moore
> Sent: Monday, November 27, 2017 5:09 PM
> To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder
>
> CW skimmer can copy almost anything.  I will not play in their sand box...
>
> I think we need a good contest where each ham sends an actual RST he
> copes, and a personally designed 3 alpha numeric check sum.  The check sum
> get published when he/she turns in their log.  The logs get computer
> compared any call where RST and Checksum that is copied correctly during
> the exchange gets 5 points anyone that is incorrect looses 100 points for
> that QSO.  The contest sponsor should be putting out false calls and
> frequencies on the frequency spotter list, if any of those calls show up on
> any list the whole log gets tossed and their name published as a cheat..
> There should also be people who only call CQTEST and never answer a call,
> if there call shows that log is also tossed.
>
> I have not use for CW decoded qso's as a learning tool or otherwise.. off
> my soapbox
>
> Fred Moore
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> phone: 321-217-8699
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Re: [Elecraft] CW Contest and Elecraft K3s decoder

[M. George]

Thanks for posting the videos Dick K6KR and John KK9A.  Fun to watch...
this thread just keeps going but I'm glad to see some more rounded
responses regarding contesting.  I made a couple of videos running stations
in the ARRL SS if you would like to see the perspective of a more involved
exchange.  I'm only running one radio, but you get some commentary along
with me running the stations.  You can't do any of this with a CW reader...
it's just not possible or practical for that matter.  I certainly don't
have a huge pile up calling me, but it would just never work trying to use
something that is decoding the CW.  The only thing you use is the grey
matter between your ears.  I also make several fills using the paddle as
you can see in the videos.

*Here are the videos:*

20 Meters :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bTX255sEVpQ

15 Meters :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_GPhl8hiGgs

Most would never put themselves out there for commentary... so here I go
anyway.  I hope someone finds the video interesting.  The setup is a 4K
desktop showing the new N1MM+ spectrum scope as fed by Win4K3Suite.  I'm
running along at a pretty good clip, but if you watch the videos, you will
see that I QRS several times based on the speed and or copy of the calling
station.

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Re: [Elecraft] SVGA capture

[M. George]

Jim, you should try the DirectShow feed with Win4K3Suite, I don't have a
P3, but I know it supports a couple of different VGA capture devices and
I'm pretty sure it's using a DirectShow feed.  There is a trial of
Win4K3Suite, you should give it a try.  Then you have an integrated setup
for your K3 and you won't need to use VLC.  It's worth a try, maybe Tom the
author of Win4K3Suite will chime in.

Max NG7M

On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 6:52 PM, Jim Miller  wrote:

> A little victory here for me. Finally downloaded a new driver for my
> Startech USB3 video capture box and also a new version of VLC media player
> (free, open source, donation would be nice...)
>
> After installing the driver I fired up VLC, opened the media menu, opened
> capture device and selected DirectShow.
>
> P3 SVGA came up instantly in a resizable window nice and clean. I'm just
> using a NUC i5, Win10 and it's consuming about 5% CPU time which is very
> reasonable.
>
> For extra points I modified the properties of the desktop shortcut for VLC
> putting "dshow://" after the program invocation which was already in
> quotes. Include the quotes in the dshow portion.
>
> Clicking on the link now goes directly to showing the SVGA stream.
>
> I'll do some further testing to see if anything weird crops up when running
> N1MM+ and sending CW, etc., but looks good so far!
>
> woo hoo!!
>
> 73
>
> jim ab3cv
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 port sharing and FT-8

[M. George]

Wes, I wanted to jump in where Tom mentioned my YouTube video of sharing
Virtual K3 CAT feeds with Win4K3Suite
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U>.

I'm just like you, I like to turn the knobs primarily.  Don't be confused
by the graphical interface that Win4K3Suite provides as it relates to
sharing your K3/S CAT feed.  Early on I purchased the software primarily
for the ability to share full on Virtual CAT Feeds and not the graphical
interface.  The CAT sharing is just one aspect of Win4K3Suite.  The PAN
Adapter support and graphic interface are simply additional features you
can use if you like.  And for remote operation the graphical interface is
excellent as you will learn if you operate remote.  Or just minimize
Win4K3Suite and don't use it... twist the knobs on your radio and just use
the CAT sharing via the Virtual K3 CAT feeds it provides.

I would highly recommend that you watch my video.  It's very detailed... to
a fault some will say, but you can jump ahead by 10 seconds and back using
the L and J keys and pause with the K key.  Or jump ahead 5 seconds and
back with the arrow keys and pause with the space bar.

I too used LP-Bridge many years ago and it did work, but it isn't even in
the same ball park for reliability as Win4K3Suite for sharing CAT Feeds.
Not even close.

The beauty of :Win4K3Suite is that it creates true Virtual K3/S CAT feeds.
The software or hardware you are using has no idea it's not connected
directly to the K3/S CAT port / USB CAT port direct.  No funky API's like
Hamlib or Omni-rig that requires software support to use the abstraction
layer required.

If there is hardware or software that expects to be connected directly to a
K3/S CAT port / feed, it will work with Win4K3Suite Virtual K3/S CAT
interfaces.

Watch the video and give Win4K3Suite a try.
<https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U> The com0com port setup trips
most guys up, but you have the same problem with LP-Bridge too.  I go into
great detail on com0com in the video.  It's not bad once you understand the
concept. You won't go back to LP-Bridge... my two cents.  And again, you
are not required to use the graphical interface to the K3 for anything, but
you might just start using it after awhile, for remote control like I did.
Not to mention all the other features... like using it with LP-PAN2 or
SDRPlay.  I switched from NaP3 long ago and never looked back.  By the way,
i'm a big N8LP fan too... I love the LP-PAN2 setup and LP-700, but NaP3
plays second fiddle to Win4K3Suite's spectrum display and you can now pump
a UDP feed of the spectrum to N1MM too... Have fun.

Max NG7M


Tom,

I've downloaded and tried your program several times (perhaps that why your
site
won't let me do it again).? Nothing personal, but I just don't like running
the
radio from the computer that much.? I know that flies in the face of my
desire
to tune (sometimes) the frequency with the mouse on the panadapter.?
Otherwise,
I like the knobs.? That said, your mention of Omni-rig got me thinking and
I
installed it and at first blush it appears that I can now connect
everything to
everything else using LP-Bridge.

I'll call this the beta test stage, but did want to put this out there for
the
folks who said it would work.

Wes


On 6/11/2019 4:00 PM, Tom wrote:
> Hi
> 7 years ago, I tried to write some small software projects that used
LPBridge to share ports. I quickly found out that it does not pass all
commands through the radio. In addition, there were many cases of
collisions between software products if they tried to write to the comport
at the same time.
> So, a long story short, I developed Win4K3Suite.
> It is completely different than passive comport sharing utilities.  It
has 6 "Virtual radios" that act pretty well identical to the K3, KX3 or
KX2.  It listens to commands from software products and then delivers
results either from memory or if a write is necessary, then all threads are
synchronized and prioritised so that one application cannot clobber the
other.
> You can run 6 applications simultaneously as well as HRD Logbook.  It
also works with hardware devices like SteppIr antennas and tuners.  Here is
a video from Max, NG7M who uses it extensively to connect all kinds of
software and hardware together. https://youtu.be/zbf7BPfcj4U
> It does use com0com, but not as a sharing tool but rather com0com
actually behaves just like a null modem cable.  You create a Pair of
comports which form a null modem cable and you connect one side to Win4K3
and the other to the other software.  It is 100% reliable and tested with
thousands of users.
> There's a free trial and updates are free.  There are numerous videos
under Documentation, Video Tutorials.
> In any case, I would not use HamLib for connections.  Always use
Omni-rig.  Much more stable.
> 73 Tom
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Port sharing redux

[M. George]

Wes, I think you are pretty well set on the continued use of LP_Bridge.
 Keep in mind that Larry hasn't touched / updated LP_Bridge for 3.5 years,
plus it's painful to wait for it to start up the virtual eltima IMHO.  You
just do not get true virtual K3 CAT instances with LP_Bridge that support
all the K3 CAT commands etc.  Plus with LP_Bridge you can't supply a K3 CAT
read only feed direct to hardware at anything faster than 4800 baud, and
when you do that, the hardware must be set to Kenwood protocol IMHO, again
the hardware won't see the full K3 CAT command set.

There is no reason to use Omni-rig with Win4K3Suite.  Again, the beauty to
true virual K3 CAT feeds.  The software and hardware thinks it's connected
direct to your K3/S.  No more fooling around with another abstraction layer
and required support by the hardware you are using.

com0com port setup couldn't be easier when you use the com0com graphical
setup program.  No need to look at the device manager at all.  And the port
pairs are created at boot time without a laborious wait for Eltima drivers
to load like LP-Bridge.  The control you get with com0com and Win4K3Suite
is much more robust and powerful than LP-Bridge.  Hands down... as I said
before... LP-Bridge isn't in the same ball park, and I also ran LP-Bridge
for years, but I would never go back at this point.  However, you can tell
I'm a Win4K3Suite fan boy. :)  Did you watch my video?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U

You are really limiting yourself with LP-Bridge, especially if you use
Omni-rig too?  No reason for that even with WSJT etc.  You just don't need
any of that abstraction layer API nonsense with Win4K3Suite.

As far as the auto launch question, you should join and post int he
Win4K3Suite Groups.io group.  Personally, I don't use any auto launch
because with Win4K3Suite, once it's started and it does start up fast
unlike LP-Bridge (talk about a PITA), you can then just launch the software
you want to use for the type of operating you are doing.  I start
Win4K3Suite and Launch N1MM if I'm going to contest, or DXLap for general
operating and WSJT for FT-8, or run them all at the same time.  You can see
this in the video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zbf7BPfcj4U>.  By the
time LP-Bridge finally starts and creates the virtual ports, you could have
everything running twice with Win4K3Suite.

As far as the UAC prompt, are you saying that LP-Bridge launches your app
without sowing the UAC prompt to run the software as an administrator?  Are
you starting LP-Bridge as an admin in this case?  Try running Win4K3Sute as
an admin and launch your apps?

Anyway, my two cents... I'm a Win4KSuite fan so its clear I'm very bias at
this point, big time and I like the ongoing updates and full support of the
K3 full CAT command set.

Good luck, I really think you are making it harder than it needs to be
where you are trying to use Omni-rig and LP-Bridge and mixing a semi
virtual K3 CAT via LP-Bridge and then using UDP broadcasts with Omni-Rig
and or a direct Omni-rig connect to a virual port in LP-Bridge?  You could
do the same thing with Win4K3Sute, but there is no need to introduce
Omni-Rig for WSJT, just connect WSJT to a virtual K3 CAT feed from
Win4K3Suite or LP-Bridge for that matter.

I could go on and on... you are very limited with LP-Bridge... where with
Win4K3Suite, you can setup 6 Virtual K3 CAT feeds... using software and or
hardware and whatever baud radio you want and you can control if they are
read/write polling or not K3 CAT feeds.  It's the best $50-$60 software I
have bought for my station needs.  But then again, LP-Bridge is free.  It
comes down to good, fast and cheap you can only ever have two of those
three options and sacrifice the third one. :)

Max NG7M


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Re: [Elecraft] K3 Port sharing redux

[M. George]

Wes, maybe I read your email wrong, but you implied that setting up
the com0com pairs was a PITA. You used the acronym PITA and I assumed
you were talking about com0com.  That's why I commented that you
actually do not need to look at the device manager because it appears
that confused you. Like anything, it isn't a PITA after you understand
how it works. I showed that in the video because it would be a natural
question for guys to look at.  But again, you do not need to look at
the device manager unless you are curious.  I find it humorous you are
using a 12 year old logging program that is no longer supported. ;)
wink, wink. Wow. :) DXBase must really be something special. ;) I
doubt I'll be switching to DXBase any time soon.

You said you were using Omni-rig with WSJT... there is no reason for
that with Win4K3Suite.  You could probably use LP-Bridge too and avoid
using Omni-Rig.  You could if you needed to (use Omni-Rig with
Win4K3Suite) but I see no reason for it unless you like to complicate
your setup... that's what I said in my previous email. The mis-mash of
LP-Bridge and Omni-Rig etc... gets ugly.  And if you were using NaP3
with LP-Bridge you would see the instability issues much more often...
the dreaded red X in the NaP3 screen.  But again, it doesn't sound
like you are doing that.  You are using SpectraVue?? and I'm not
familiar with that, but if it directly supports the K3 CAT feed
connection you could simply setup a virtual com0com pair there and
SpectraVue would think it was directly connected to the K3.

If you leave your computer running all the time, I'm not sure why the
UAC and or start up of software is a concern either.  That seemed like
a big deal for some reason in your email I replied to.

If auto start of DXBase from Win4K3Suite is a show stopper, you better
stick with LP-Bridge, but I see no reason why you couldn't setup a
batch file for that and have Win4K3Suite start up the batch file that
runs DXBase.  You can see that when you select an auto start program,
.bat is one of the options.

Anyway, good luck... if you want to keep this discussion going, I
would suggest we take it off the list here and send direct email.  You
asked for input on sharing the K3 CAT feed and if you wanted my
opinion on Win4K3Suite you certainly got it... :)  I won't be replying
on the elecraft list again related to our discussion.  Send me an
email direct.

Max NG7M




Max,

I'm not necessarily set on using LP-Bridge, although it is suiting my
needs.  As
to its age, my logging program hasn't been updated in 12 years and it still
works fine. I don't have a problem with the start up time, generally, the
computer is on all of the time and my programs are all loaded.  I don't really
care about CAT commands as long as 1) my logging program can read the K3
frequency and mode, 2)  SpectraVue can communicate with the K3 and vice versa,
3)  a couple of other programs can do the same.

I never said I was using Omni-rig with Win4K3, that I found necessary
to run FT8
using LPB at someone's suggestion.

I find it a bit humorous to have you tell me that I didn't need to look at
Device Manager since I got the idea by watching your video @29:30  (Yes, I did
watch it and it was helpful).

I launch DXBase using a Windows task to avoid the UAC prompt.  I have a desktop
shortcut that points to that task.  I can run that script in LPB to autostart
DXBase but AFAIK it won't autostart in Win4K3.

Wes


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[Elecraft] Windows update clobbered me

[M. George]

Dave, I just read your message and all of the replies don't ask what kind
of virtual serial ports you are using.  If you are using com0com ports, the
signed driver on the 64 bit version of the com0com drivers expired.

If this is the case, just a hunch here, go into the device manager and
right click on the driver / item that has the yellow option where it's not
working anymore.  Select search online to update the driver and if this is
the issue, you will get a new driver and then reboot.  All will be back to
normal after that.

Hope my hunch was correct. Max NG7M


I realize this is not a Windows list, but it relates to my K3 as I use
it and the K3 Utility to do things...

early this morning, Windows tried to install (but failed) 2019-07
Cumulative Update for Windows 10 Version 1803 for x64-based Systems
(KB4507435).

As a result, I have lost my virtual com ports...

in Device Manager, under USB controllers, they show as USB Serial
Converter (with a yellow triangle with an exclamation mark inside it),
and have the correct driver loaded, but somehow they are not working,
not findable in the K3 Utility, and so I am at a loss what to do /change
/ fix next...

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks & 73 de Dave, W5SV

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[Elecraft] K4 YouTube Video List by Date

[M. George]

It's not surprising that there many looking for all the information they
can get on the K4 etc.. Here is a YouTube link that lists K3 related
video 'Search
for Elecraft K4 Sorted by Date for Video posted this year'
<https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D>
:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D

Just use the filter option in YouTube in this case to narrow down the
videos to the latest postings based on the search criteria to get the
latest video by date.

The first video in this list contains a lot of detail at 38 minutes long
(Eric). (ELECRAFT K4 IN DEPTH with WA6HHQ at Waters & Stanton Ltd
Portsmouth UK).  Take the time and watch the whole video... there is a lot
of detail in this one.

For the questions that seem to persist about how the K4 will compare to the
K3... you quickly begin to understand that the receiver specs will be
similar to the K3S, especially once you understand the K4 design approach
with the hyrbird direct sampling approach and superhet addition in the
K4HD.  At the same time, I'm not going to underestimate the potential for
some eye popping numbers when the K4HD module is introduced. (think
Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced rankings).  However if the specs
are similar to the K3S or even a little better, it's becoming more clear to
me that the K4 platform and it's future potential with advances and
refinements in the software are where the real advantages are.  Big leaps
here over the K3S.  Leaps that the K3S can simply never take do to the
limited processing power.  The K3 and K4 are not even in the same league in
this area.

You also begin to see the much higher potential the K4 has as far as noise
reduction / noise blanking capability due to algorithms having access to a
much wider bandpass with the SDR direct sampling approach.  Just my
opinion, but I suspect there will be some big improvements in these areas
as compared to the K3/S line.  The speed of the processing power and access
to bandwidth will allow for better noise reduction etc... plus the software
improvements over time and head room for processing power sets up the K4
for some big performance leaps improvements are made in software (IMHO).
You can glean all of this from the videos (reading between the lines) in my
opinion. i.e. Elecraft potentially adding the capability with diversity
receive to do phase shifting to null out noise, similar to the capability
you get with a NCC-2 box for example.  And consider the design approach to
upgrade the ADC processing... the K4 seems to be setup for a long life with
some interesting improvements down the road, not only with the software,
but think hardware processing upgrades too.

I can't speak for anyone else, but since the K4 has been announced I have
gone through a phase of trying to convince myself that the K4 isn't any
better than my K3S, so why would I consider a K4?  ($4K to $6K for a new
rig sure isn't chump change and could be spent on other station
improvements right?) As far as some of the tell-tell specs like dynamic
range blocking with strong signals near your band-pass etc... I think with
the K4HD, the specs will be similar, but overall, what is beginning to
interest me is the amazing potential the K4 design has.  We are talking
about two very different animals here. (with the same linage)

I have also spent a considerable amount of time looking at the direct
sampling competitors and as I start to dig in, I'm really seeing some
lacking features as they relate to a CW operator's rig.  I guess I'm biased
as a current Elecraft Fan-Boy / CW operator (I'll admit it), but when I
look at what I would be giving up in regard to CW operating features that
have become second nature to me, I think I would be very disappointed. If
you spend some time in the competitors user groups you will understand what
I'm talking about, but that's just me.  Owners in these other groups have
been begging for some common CW features that never seem to materialize.
However competition is good and it's great to have options.  You can't go
too wrong with any of the high end rigs these days, including any of the
direct sampling designs that are shipping now.

So to end this tome of a post... if I had to place an order today for a new
rig, it would be a an order for a K4.  Wink / wink, maybe I already did.
;)  And if I did, I'm happy to wait X number of months for the K4 to emerge
only when it is ready for prime time.  My trusty K3S at my side as I type
away at the keyboard here will make the wait easy.  Take your time Elecraft.

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Re: [Elecraft] K4 YouTube Video List by Date

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John, that's the beauty of it all... you can play now (or rather in the
near future) or you can wait and decide for yourself after all the
'glorious independent reviews come in' (grump around like the Grumpy Old K3
Grinch who stole Christmas). "When I was a young man we used a K3 or a K3S
and by golly we loved it" You young whipper snappers with your new
fangled K4 gizzo radios! :)  Is someone making you upgrade to a K4?
Twisting your arm? You totally missed the point.

The K4 isn't ONLY about the receiver specs... maybe for you so you have no
choice but to wait...  I get it...  However if that was the case, then you
would have bought some other transceiver that has already exceeded some of
the K3S's specs. No? The point here is that there is far more to the new
platform than receiver specs alone and the potential truly leaves the
exhausted K3's processing and now static capabilities in the dust (Elecraft
is moving on whether you like it or not... that ship has already sailed!).
Plus sensitivity is only as good as the noise floor your antenna system
provides... I'm not aware of an HF antenna system that provides a ~-133dBm
to -145dBm MDS noise floor.  So sensitivity is all relative to your antenna
system.  Blocking dynamic range is far more important to me.  It's time for
Elecraft to move on to a platform they can build on.  I'm sure many will
shake their fist in the air, weep and wail and gnash their teeth, holding
on to the K3s for years and years to come (a testament to K3 success), but
many will be excited for what the K4 will bring and are willing to go along
for the ride right from the start.

You can stomp your feet and do what you like...bark at the moon and pound
sand and continue to stick with the K3 until the end of times, nothing
wrong with that... try to convince yourself that the creators of the K3
can't do any better.  I'm in the camp that they have already done better
and I want to go along for that ride.  Doing better includes far more
capabilities than dropping the MDS by a few dBm what will net nothing.
Onward and upward I say... it's exciting to see that there is and continues
to be a market to keep pushing the envelope in the HF transceiver market.

Max NG7M

On Mon, Dec 23, 2019 at 10:20 AM John Stengrevics 
wrote:

> POTENTIALLY better NR & NB will have to wait for hard data and independent
> reviews.
>
> And, this will absolutely determine whether or not I transition from the
> K3S to the K4 (along with improved sensitivity).
>
> 73,
>
> John
> WA1EAZ
>
> > On Dec 23, 2019, at 9:43 AM, M. George 
> wrote:
> >
> > It's not surprising that there many looking for all the information they
> > can get on the K4 etc.. Here is a YouTube link that lists K3 related
> > video 'Search
> > for Elecraft K4 Sorted by Date for Video posted this year'
> > <
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D
> >
> > :
> >
> https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAISBAgFEAE%253D
> >
> > Just use the filter option in YouTube in this case to narrow down the
> > videos to the latest postings based on the search criteria to get the
> > latest video by date.
> >
> > The first video in this list contains a lot of detail at 38 minutes long
> > (Eric). (ELECRAFT K4 IN DEPTH with WA6HHQ at Waters & Stanton Ltd
> > Portsmouth UK).  Take the time and watch the whole video... there is a
> lot
> > of detail in this one.
> >
> > For the questions that seem to persist about how the K4 will compare to
> the
> > K3... you quickly begin to understand that the receiver specs will be
> > similar to the K3S, especially once you understand the K4 design approach
> > with the hyrbird direct sampling approach and superhet addition in the
> > K4HD.  At the same time, I'm not going to underestimate the potential for
> > some eye popping numbers when the K4HD module is introduced. (think
> > Third-Order Dynamic Range Narrow Spaced rankings).  However if the specs
> > are similar to the K3S or even a little better, it's becoming more clear
> to
> > me that the K4 platform and it's future potential with advances and
> > refinements in the software are where the real advantages are.  Big leaps
> > here over the K3S.  Leaps that the K3S can simply never take do to the
> > limited processing power.  The K3 and K4 are not even in the same league
> in
> > this area.
> >
> > You also begin to see the much higher potential the K4 has as far as
> noise
> > reduction / noise blanking capability due to algorithms having access to
> a
> > much wider bandpass with the SDR direct sampling appro

[Elecraft] Ham Radio Workbench Podcast K4 Update Eric Swartz / Nov 5th

[M. George]

I searched through the Elecraft Archives and didn't see a reference to the
Ham Radio Workbench podcast where Eric gives an update on the K4 (published
on 11/4).  Not sure if there are any new tidbits that can't be found on the
other update sources / youtube etc, but I thought I would pass this along.
I believe this is the newest and latest interview with Eric as far as
details on the K4.  I hope it's not a duplicate post I missed...

https://www.hamradioworkbench.com/podcast/elecraft-k4-update#

Jump forward  to about 45 minutes in to get right to the point where the
interview with Eric starts.  The interview is right around 60 minutes long
and took place after the interview Eric did in the UK.

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Re: [Elecraft] K3 - KEY OUT problem

[M. George]

Bob N7WY motivated me to provide a few more details on the KEY OUT
mosfet/Q3/IRFI630 replacement.  I took the bottom off my K3 to show the
location of the IRFI630 on the bottom of the PCB.  It was a little more
tricky than I remembered, so you will need to access the main PCB from the
top of the K3 by removing the KIO3 board and the IO board that has the IF
output.  I did the replacement without removing the back panel which would
have been very painful.  Again, I do remember being able to do this without
a major disassembly.  I de-soldered from the bottom of the PCB and pulled
and replaced the IRFI630 from the top.  It was tight, but it sure beat
sending the K3 back to Elecraft and you can do a clean job if you are
careful.

Here are some new pictures that I just took
<http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FRadios%2FK3%2FSmokedKeyOutIRFI630G%2F>
and annotated with more details of the location of Q3 along with a snippet
from the Elecraft Schematic where Q3 is located.  Your mileage may vary
based on your re-work skills but I wouldn't consider this a difficult
replacement... medium effort at worst.  When in doubt, send your radio in,
but it's not rocket science:

Updated Pictures:
http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FRadios%2FK3%2FSmokedKeyOutIRFI630G%2F

Good Luck!

Max NG7M

On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:20 AM M. George 
wrote:

> Pete, just saw your question on the PTT OUT not working for you.  I had an
> issue with this back in 2016... I can't remember what I did, but it wasn't
> smart and it was my fault... Anyway, I let the smoke/metal out of the IRFI630G
> that is used on the PPT out.  It's beefy and can take a lot of abuse, but I
> still managed to destroy it.  Anyway, it's an easy replacement and saved me
> from shipping my K3 back to Elecraft.  Total operator error in my
> situation... maybe attached 12v to the PTT out?  Again, I can't remember.
>
> Here is a picture of what my damaged MOSFET looked like at the time... see
> the crack and leakage ;)
>
>
> http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=imageview&var1=NG7M%2FRadios%2FK3%2FSmokedKeyOutIRFI630G%2FIRFI630GFried.JPG
>
> And here is the Mouser part I ordered to replace it:
>
>
> https://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Vishay-Siliconix/IRFI630GPBF?qs=%2Fha2pyFaduhSYcFgYMU8ma88%2Fb96%2Fl4SGKWFSYSWEuEDdoRAAyNpCg==
>
> Here is the schematic link:
> https://ftp.elecraft.com/K3/Manuals%20Downloads/K3_Schematics_Jun_2010.pdf
>
> Search for IRFI630 in the PDF, you will find it straight away... and I
> don't remember it being tough to expose the damaged mosfet and replace
> it...
>
> Max NG7M
>
> On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 8:57 AM N4ZR  wrote:
>
>> Thanks to everyone who responded.  I've now written to Elecraft Support,
>> and anticipate that it will have to go back to the mother ship.
>>
>> --
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>> 73, Pete N4ZR
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Re: [Elecraft] CW skimmer

[M. George]

Amen Bob, I totally agree.  With an API to the K4 and the I/Q output over
the LAN, applications that are much better at what they do, can interface
and get access to everything they need in the K4.  I can't imagine
community support or Elecraft support starting with the question: What
hodgepodge of apps are you running on the embedded linux OS of your K4?
"Well, I'm running a Chromium Browser, a Chess Game, Tetris, a graphical
Rubik's Cube and Spotify for Linux so I can listen to Taylor Swift while
working DX and running stations in a contest."  Why do you ask? ;)

To quote a famous software/hardware engineering quote we all love and know:
"Eventually Elecraft will shoot the software engineers and ship the
product".  It sounds like it's getting close but I'm happy to wait for the
finishing touches for the first release.  Let's worry about running Spotify
on our K4 and listening to Johnny Cash, Megadeath or Metallica while
operating the radio until release #2 of a K4 Linux OS image.  However,
maybe Elecraft should support my favorite Financial Market active trader
program so I can get streaming real-time market data quotes on my K4
display and also NASDAQ Level 2 quotes and time and sales data as I try to
play market maker while operating a contest day trading.  I think we really
need that as an embedded app running on the K4, don't you?  Makes perfect
sense.

Max NG7M

On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 12:22 PM Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> Thoughts on this.I would expect the K4 to be a high performance
> product in both the on air performance and the communications interface
> performance.   I would not expect it to have any embedded applications
> as there are just to dang many;  CW ones, Digital, ones, Logging ones,
> and etc.   Everybody has there favorites of each of these.
>
> Trying to embed just a few applications raises the question of "what
> few?".   We all use an outboard computer to do station house keeping.  I
> say keep it that way and every one can then use their favorite
> application.   I'd speculate if there were a number of applications
> embedded, then Elecraft would have to ship a "crying towel" with every
> radio.  There are just those folks that seemed not to be pleased,
> regardless of what ever it is in front of them.   As 'tis said; "one can
> please part of the people part of the time and all of the people none of
> the time".Lets just keep the radio doing what a radio should do and
> the computer keeping the operator happy with what ever application they
> so choose.
>
> Happy New Year to all
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
>
> On 12/31/2019 10:24 AM, Barry wrote:
> > If Elecraft makes the K4 I&Q data avail in MME format, there will be
> > no need to implement these on the radio itself. They can all reside on
> > the computer that is used for control and whatever else. It will be
> > basically like running with a KX3.
> >
> > 73,
> > Barry
> > K3NDM
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] When might there be a P3 sale or drop in price

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d luck and could buy a used P3 for
> a reasonable price. Not fully loaded, but I can second it was worth the
> investment. I played with different panadapters and SDR-software in the
> past and have given up on this. The integration/configuration is not a
> dream. Keeping the config stable with "plug'n'pray" USB-Soundcards isn't
> fun.
> The only thing I would like to see in the P3 is a smaller size given the
> box is mostly empty.
> 73 good luck
> Gernot DF5RF
>
>
> Am 17.02.2020 um 16:42 schrieb ae...@carolinaheli.com:
> > I've been fighting getting the P3 for years. After trying to get SDR
> based
> > pan adapters to work reliably (I like the mouse point and tune feature)
> I've
> > decided I want to buy a toaster.
> >
> > Just plug it in and it works.
> >
> > A fully loaded 200watt P3 with video card..etc is hard to swallow when I
> can
> > buy a new HF rig with the Pan adapter built in for less.
> >
> > Are there plans to have a sale or bigger discount?
> >
> > My time frame for purchase is March. I'll probably be going to the
> > Charlotte, NC Hamfest for the purchase unless I'm on call that week.
> >
> > Thanks in advance.
> >
> >
> >
> > Jerry Moore
> >
> > AE4PB
> >
> >
> >
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] K4 news?

[M. George]

I guess it's been a few weeks, so it's time for a new 'Elecraft K4 / any
new news' thread.  At least it's predictable. Give or take a few days. ;)

1. It's just a wild hunch (call me crazy), but I think any new news will be
posted here on the Elecraft website first:
https://elecraft.com/pages/k4-pre-order  Scroll down and click on the K4
updates tab.  Yes, no updates since the last update... on January 15th
2020.  You can pound on your F5 / page reload key a few times to see if
your browser has an older cached version of the content.  If no update...
then you have the latest update.

2. If you think there is a rogue / secret video that has been posted and
not announced, I would suggest a YouTube search for the term 'Elecraft K4'
sorted by latest video uploads:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=elecraft+k4&sp=CAI%253D  Nope,
no new videos that I haven't seen.  I guess there are no new updates posted
on YouTube.

3. Or maybe one could go all NSA and be super sneaky, and look for a super
duper secret directory on the ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K4/ (ftp) server...
nope nothing new about the K4, other than the original brochure... woe is
me! (the brochure is a pdf file there which might bring to life the thread
about getting text out of a PDF file.. for the love of Elecraft, let's hope
not!)

4. We could speculate on how long this thread will live... 10 responses?
20? 30? 40?  I'm all a twitter thinking about how long it will last. ;)

All in good fun! :)

mg NG7M

On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 2:04 PM Wes  wrote:

> They will deliver before FD.  What year is the question.
>
> Wes  N7WS
>
> On 3/3/2020 1:39 PM, Joseph Trombino Jr wrote:
> > Howdy Gang.
> >
> > Has anyone picked up any news from the Mothership as to the K4
> production process and timeline?
> >
> > Sure hope they can start deliveries well before Field Day.
> >
> > Keep sending those ditties.
> >
> >   73, Joe W2KJ
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Re: [Elecraft] K-4D for SO2R

[M. George]

I asked Eric last year in Xenia about supporting full duplex / i.e. so2r in
a box.  He didn't say no, and he hedged a bit around the topic. A bit of a
wink, wink. So maybe eventually... let's cross our fingers:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QakxQGFaDwA

Max NG7M

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:52 AM Art Suberbielle  wrote:

> Will the K-4D be able to receive on one band while transmitting on a
> different band?
>
> Still wondering how the radio will transmit CW via remote with my iPad...
>
> 73,
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Elecraft email from 2000 onward

[M. George]

The mailman qth archives go back to December of 2001:
http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/elecraft/

mg NG7M

On Thu, Mar 12, 2020 at 4:52 PM kevinr  wrote:

> I was digging in my computer backup files and found some Elecraft
> email.  When I build a new computer I back the old one up on it. Since
> drive sizes are increasing with time it became easier. Currently my main
> server holds the data from at least twenty different computers I've
> owned from 1982 until today.  My first four computers were not archived.
>
> I was using Opera as my browser and my email client back then so the
> messages get stored in databases.  But the format changed over the
> years.  I also deleted email back then so coverage is not complete.
> Between 2000 and 2002 things are very spotty.  I was in grad school so
> life was hectic and amateur radio was my respite of sanity.  Building my
> K2 helped a great deal.  Beating undergrads into shape is hard work.
>
> It is fun to read the net reports from 2002 onward.  Many of the people
> who checked in then are still checking in today.  But others are now
> gone or into other things.  Given time and a number of Perl, awk, and
> sed scripts I should be able to reassemble many Elecraft messages from
> when the K1 was young.  I am trying to find the first Elecraft CW Net
> announcement but the database system makes searching difficult.
>
> I remember email messages about the Elecraft naming scheme in 2001.
> This was when I first heard about the K3 and K4 but only as a numbering
> system.  I mentioned the K4 late in 2005 for other reasons.  There were
> no KX anything in those days.  I did find the email about me taking my
> K2 to the Duke City Hamfest in 2002.  I got my first Elecraft shirt that
> year.  Lisa also sent me a chocolate bar but that got eaten by someone
> else ( she will remain nameless the shameless chocolate bar stealer :)
>
> One of these days I may have some net reports retrieved and formatted.
> Somewhere around 2009 I switched to Thunderbird as my mail client so
> I'll need another set of scripts to dig through those files.  I threw
> out many fewer emails after that so I have a more complete record.
>
> Now to go back to what I was looking for when all of this started :)
>
>73,
>
>Kevin.  KD5ONS
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Re: [Elecraft] KXUSB pinout

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Is the same cable as you would use with the Elecraft XG3, take a look at
the end of the XG3 manual:
https://ftp.elecraft.com/XG3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740154%20XG3%20Owner%27s%20Manual.pdf

The tip(1) is TX and the Ring(2) is RX... and well you guessed it... the
Sleeve(3) is Ground. So on a DB9 (D-Sub) connector, pin 3 goes to the Tip,
Pin 2 goes to the Ring and Pin 5 to the Sleeve.

Max NG7M

On Tue, Mar 17, 2020 at 7:36 PM Mike Short  wrote:

> I need the pinout for the KXUSB cable, and can't seem to find anything on
> Elecraft website.
> I need to make an adapter to use the KXUSB cable with a K3.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 doesn't work in AFSK-A mode but DATA-A does work. What's broken?

[M. George]

Joe, I created a super detailed and verbose YouTube video on the K3 RTTY /
FSK setup <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EToCJ5GeZSE>.  If you are not
interested in setting up FSK, you still might find it handy on setting up
the receive side of the equation.  It goes in to great detail on selecting
the tones you prefer and demos everything due to the fact that I made the
video while an active contest was going on.  You can jump head and back 10
seconds at a time on YouTube with the J and L keys and pause with the K or
space bar... or jump ahead and back with the arrow keys 5 seconds.

If you devour the whole video, it pretty much covers about all there is to
cover on a K3 RTTY setup with N1MM and MMTTY / FSK.  Again, the audio
receive setup would still be helpful if you decide to go the AFSK route
which is fine too.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EToCJ5GeZSE

Based on comments over the last several years, many have found this useful
and I only needed to go through the explanation once. :) Max NG7M

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 6:40 AM Joe N9OK  wrote:

> I've reached out to Elecraft Tech Support on this issue. With their locale
> on lockdown, I think they have their hands full just trying to maintain
> some sense of normalcy. So I'm hoping someone here can point me in the
> right direction.
>
> I've recently upgraded my K3 with numerous "last time buy" options (KAT3A
> antenna tuner, 2 KSUN3A synthesizers, and KIO3B usb board). One goal was to
> remove the Microkeyer II and simplifying the setup.
>
> What I'm finding now is that I can't make RTTY work correctly. I use MMTTY
> to generate a simple warble signal, which is sent to my K3. The K3 is set
> to AFSK-A, VOX enable, audio levels set correctly. What happens is that the
> K3 TX LED illuminates, but nothing is heard with the Monitor (ie, thru the
> K3 speaker), and there is no RF transmitted. However, when I use DATA-A, I
> do hear tones using Monitor, and there is RF power.
>
> I get the same results using either the K3 internal sound card, or
> externally-generated audio (fed from my PC soundcard to Line-In on the K3).
>
> Hoping there was a configuration issue, I factory reset my K3. That didn't
> help.
>
> It's probable this issue has been there since I first purchased my K3 new 8
> years ago, but I never noticed. My MKII was used as my interface, and I was
> running FSK for RTTY. I did have many configuration issues with my MKII
> setup, which in retrospect might well be related to the AFSK issue that's
> now obvious.
>
> I'm suspecting this is a hardware issue. I have the 59 pages of schematics,
> and am going thru them to see if I can identify the issue so I can fix it.
> I would appreciate comments / suggestions / ideas to point me in the right
> direction.
>
> 73, Joe N9OK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 doesn't work in AFSK-A mode but DATA-A does work. What's broken?

[M. George]

Joe, thanks for the follow up note... (I had to add confusion) but, I
should mention that If do want to setup and transmit FSK internally to the
K3/S AND you don't want to go the serial port route to control PTT and FSK
off Serial port control lines.  You could go with TinyFSK... which
dedicates a single board computer to timing the Mark and Shift tones and
PTT.  So a couple years after the video you are watching now, I got around
to making a TinyFSK Video <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT5SfhUtTAw>
which shows you how to use what is called a MORTTY Kit
<https://hamprojects.info/mortty/> which makes using TinyFSK a breeze:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cT5SfhUtTAw  All as I'm saying is, if you
want to use internal FSK with your K3/S, you might want to consider buying
a MORTTY kit if you don't want to use a serial port to control PTT and FSK
mark/shift timing.  So this video covers setting up MORTTY. Clearly, you
can start off with AFSK and they venture into the FSK world later... or
not...

What you have in the K3/S with the later firmware is the best rig available
for creating the cleanest / narrowest / bandwidth friendly FSK signal.  And
if you invest the time into setting up FSK, you are immune from ever under
driving or over driving an AFSK signal.  Not to open up this big freaking
can of worms and start a rhetorical holy war that has been fought over the
years between the pros and cons of FSK and AFSK... but using FSK on a K3/S
alleviates you from worrying about setting AFSK drive levels.  I'm not
saying AFSK is bad... (I'm sitting here with fear and trepidation that
someone is going to go on a tirade now about AFSK being better than FSK...
GROAN... please don't do it here on the Elecraft List).  I prefer FSK on my
K3S because I never need to worry about fiddling with the drive levels in a
moments notice when some DX station comes on RTTY (which is rare these days
anyway with the FT modes, sigh...).  One less thing to worry about.  If
someone else loves AFSK and dreams about AFSK and eats and sleeps AFSK and
talks about how wonderful it is with your XYL... knock your self out.  It's
nice to have options.  A properly driven sound card based AFSK signal is
great too.  I don't argue or deny that at all.

Anyway, have fun tinkering and deciding what you like based on your own
research.  Max NG7M

On Fri, Mar 20, 2020 at 3:19 PM n9ok  wrote:

> Thanks, Max. I've seen several other threads reference your video recently.
> Taking a look now. Focusing almost 2 hours to watch something is daunting
> :), but I'm watching now. 10 minutes in, it's informative so far.
> 73 Joe N9OK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 doesn't work in AFSK-A mode but DATA-A does work. What's broken?

[M. George]

Joe, I can confirm the same success for using AFSK A with VOX to key the
radio... and just for kicks and giggles... I have a K3S and a K3, the K3
has the KIO3B install and I tested the AFSK A setup with MMTTY and N1MM on
both radios.  *The conjecture / reports that it only works on a K3S is a
total red herring as Wes and Rich have reported? Wow that is a tangent for
sure...*  They (K3S/K3 with the USB KIO3B) work exactly the same gents,
there is nothing magical about the K3S.  I actually made a quick and dirty
YouTube video for you (Joe N9OK) and I'll send you the link to the video as
soon as it's published.  It walks you would a setup for AFSK A direct with
MMTTY and shows a test... and shows you all the configuration screens so
you can pause the video and compare to your setup. I then reference that
instance of MMTTY in N1MM and show the setup there and I work some
stations... all using AFSK A on a K3 with the the KIO3B using VOX to key
the radio. It's a March miracle.

Max NG7M

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:57 AM Richard Ferch  wrote:

> Like Wes, I have an original K3 which I have been using in AFSK-A for
> years. I use N1MM+ with either MMTTY or 2Tone as the RTTY "engine". A few
> months ago I installed the KIO3B upgrade in my K3. After I installed the
> upgrade, AFSK-A RTTY worked right from the start using the USB audio codec.
> I had no difficulties in getting it going.
>
> 73,
> Rich VE3KI
>
> N9OK wrote:
>
> Jim,
>
> Thank you very much for confirming that what I see isn't due to a broken
> K3.
>
> I agree that if firmware can fix this, it would be very nice. Elecraft had
> this particular feature listed in the feature set for the upgrade, IIRC,
> which is a large reason I splurged on the upgrade. I didn't want any more
> external interface confusion.
>
> On to configuring for FSK and perhaps playing in BARTG a little.
>
> 73 Joe N9OK
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 doesn't work in AFSK-A mode but DATA-A does work. What's broken?

[M. George]

Bob, I'm very well aware of that fact... what we don't need here is yet
another tangent on how many different ways they are to key the K3/S from
MMTTY sheesh Yes... you can key the rig with the CAT setup from MMTTY
and or use a data line on a serial port etc.  you could use a foot pedal
hooked up to the PPT IN on the K3/S and stomp on the floor too.This is
not the point at this stage of the game.  Let's help get Joe up and
running.  The FUD that's going on here is out of control.  i.e. K3S works
differently than a K3 with the KIO3B.  Out of control.  Max NG7M

On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 11:44 AM Bob McGraw K4TAX 
wrote:

> It is not necessary to use VOX if the TX command is configured correctly
> in MMTTY.I run MMTTY direct and do not use N1MM+ or other
> applications.The reason for me NOT using VOX is that I use VOX for
> other operations and don't like having to change the VOX settings for
> MMTTY.   Of course if one doesn't use VOX for SSB then set the values
> for MMTTY and carry on.
>
> 73
>
> Bob, K4TAX
>
> On 3/21/2020 12:37 PM, M. George wrote:
> > Joe, I can confirm the same success for using AFSK A with VOX to key the
> > radio... and just for kicks and giggles... I have a K3S and a K3, the K3
> > has the KIO3B install and I tested the AFSK A setup with MMTTY and N1MM
> on
> > both radios.  *The conjecture / reports that it only works on a K3S is a
> > total red herring as Wes and Rich have reported? Wow that is a tangent
> for
> > sure...*  They (K3S/K3 with the USB KIO3B) work exactly the same gents,
> > there is nothing magical about the K3S.  I actually made a quick and
> dirty
> > YouTube video for you (Joe N9OK) and I'll send you the link to the video
> as
> > soon as it's published.  It walks you would a setup for AFSK A direct
> with
> > MMTTY and shows a test... and shows you all the configuration screens so
> > you can pause the video and compare to your setup. I then reference that
> > instance of MMTTY in N1MM and show the setup there and I work some
> > stations... all using AFSK A on a K3 with the the KIO3B using VOX to key
> > the radio. It's a March miracle.
> >
> > Max NG7M
> >
> > On Sat, Mar 21, 2020 at 10:57 AM Richard Ferch  wrote:
> >
> >> Like Wes, I have an original K3 which I have been using in AFSK-A for
> >> years. I use N1MM+ with either MMTTY or 2Tone as the RTTY "engine". A
> few
> >> months ago I installed the KIO3B upgrade in my K3. After I installed the
> >> upgrade, AFSK-A RTTY worked right from the start using the USB audio
> codec.
> >> I had no difficulties in getting it going.
> >>
> >> 73,
> >> Rich VE3KI
> >>
> >> N9OK wrote:
> >>
> >> Jim,
> >>
> >> Thank you very much for confirming that what I see isn't due to a broken
> >> K3.
> >>
> >> I agree that if firmware can fix this, it would be very nice. Elecraft
> had
> >> this particular feature listed in the feature set for the upgrade, IIRC,
> >> which is a large reason I splurged on the upgrade. I didn't want any
> more
> >> external interface confusion.
> >>
> >> On to configuring for FSK and perhaps playing in BARTG a little.
> >>
> >> 73 Joe N9OK
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[Elecraft] RemoteRig Control with K3/100 and K-Pod

[M. George]

I searched for other threads covering this question, but I couldn't find
anything based on my searching. (my 5 minute effort googling up to see if
this has been covered many times)

I received a shinny new K-Pod today and was excited to play around with it
in the CQWW RTTY where I would be using my K3/100 as an RRC Control to a
Remote K2... with the RRC-1258 setup.

I just assumed that on the control side, the K-Pod would be transparent and
control the control K3/100 and be a pass through to the control side of the
RRC-1258.

It appears I was wrong...  When spinning the K-Pod knob... it does a little
VFO control and then stops.  A bummer for certain... I clearly missed
something some where that explains the fact that there are issues with the
K-Pod controlling a K3/100 as the control radio.  Or in general the K-Pod
won't work with a K3/100 / K3 mini or K30 when hooked up on the control
side?

By the way... the K3/100 control and remote K3 are running the latest beta
5.52 firmware.

Max NG7M

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[Elecraft] K-Pod Utility Posted / Firmware Release Notes

[M. George]

I see that the K-Pod utility was posted yesterday.  Either I missed a post
to the list about it or its hot off the press?

http://www.elecraft.com/k-pod/kpod_software.htm

The link to the firmware is broken at the moment.  Here is the working ftp
link:

ftp://ftp.elecraft.com/K-Pod/firmware/

I appears that the firmware release notes were updated late yesterday.

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[Elecraft] Narrow Gaming Keyboard and Giant Mouse Pads - K-Pod

[M. George]

I thought I would share the following.  I have been using a narrow gaming
keyboard for years now and really like it.  It has cherry mechanical keys
and nice options on the back lighting.  The real reason for the post here
is related to my K-Pod and the positioning of the K-Pod in relation to the
keyboard in my paddle.  Plus, I found these huge mouse pads online for a
very reasonable price.  They are 32" x 24".  I hate table edges against my
wrist when keying the paddle and using the mouse, not to mention using the
K-Pod as near to the keyboard as possible.  I'm pretty happy with the two
big mouse pads which solve the movement of the paddle too etc...

The big mouse pads were found on the shopping site that nobody can live
without these days... search for 'Large gaming mouse pad'.  I found some
big ones on usual auction site too, but they were wider and not as deep.

Anyway, here are the pictures if you want to take a look at the layout with
the narrow keyboard and the K-Pod / Paddle etc...

http://www.nc7j.com/downloads/NG7M/Elecraft/K-Pod/

Happy Thanksgiving!

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Re: [Elecraft] ​ Re: Narrow Gaming Keyboard and Giant Mouse Pads - K-Pod

[M. George]

The keyboard is a CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Tenkeyless Mechanical Gaming
Keyboard with Cherry Switches.  These are very popular keyboards and are
still available in several different models, however there are many other
manufacturers that sell the same size / style of keyboard, with or without
cherry brand mechanical keys.  Search on Amazon as a starting point.

If back lighting is important to you, make sure and search for one that has
back lighting. Since I bought mine there are some keyboards out there now
that let you control the lighting on a key by key basis... Also, know that
the mechanical cherry keys have a very distinctive click based on the
version of the Cherry switches. Here is a good gaming article that
describes the different cherry keys and how each version (color type) is
different.  i.e. Red, Blue, Brown Cherry switch types
<http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-the-best-mechanical-keyboard-and-why-you-511140347>
.

Keyboards with cherry switches won't be inexpensive.  Expect to pay
$60-$100+ if you want cherry switches in a keyboard.  Plus, do the research
and know what to expect on the feel and sound of the keys.  You might drive
your XYL crazy typing on a cherry switch keyboard! ;)

Again, other keyboards with the same form factor are out there with the
typical contact membrane key style, that is nearly silent... and mushy...
however, they can be had for $15-25.

Just to  be clear, I obviously do not have any vested interest in the
cherry switch based keyboards.  I just like them and love the tactile feel
and positive feedback you get from the keys.  The narrow width was critical
too in my case... less hand movement between the keyboard at the K-Pod,
Paddle and mouse.

Max NG7M



On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 4:36 AM, Tim Gennett  wrote:

> ​What is the make and model of the keyboard?  I can't see any​ brand or
> model markings in the pictures.
>
> Thanks
>
> Tim K9WX
>
>
> From: "M. George" 
> > To: Elecraft Mailer 
> > Cc:
> > Date: Thu, 24 Nov 2016 12:10:47 -0700
> > Subject: [Elecraft] Narrow Gaming Keyboard and Giant Mouse Pads - K-Pod
> > I thought I would share the following.  I have been using a narrow gaming
> > keyboard for years now and really like it.  It has cherry mechanical keys
> > and nice options on the back lighting.  The real reason for the post here
> > is related to my K-Pod and the positioning of the K-Pod in relation to
> the
> > keyboard in my paddle.  Plus, I found these huge mouse pads online for a
> > very reasonable price.  They are 32" x 24".  I hate table edges against
> my
> > wrist when keying the paddle and using the mouse, not to mention using
> the
> > K-Pod as near to the keyboard as possible.  I'm pretty happy with the two
> > big mouse pads which solve the movement of the paddle too etc...
> >
> > The big mouse pads were found on the shopping site that nobody can live
> > without these days... search for 'Large gaming mouse pad'.  I found some
> > big ones on usual auction site too, but they were wider and not as deep.
> >
> > Anyway, here are the pictures if you want to take a look at the layout
> with
> > the narrow keyboard and the K-Pod / Paddle etc...
> >
> > http://www.nc7j.com/downloads/NG7M/Elecraft/K-Pod/
> >
> > Happy Thanksgiving!
> >
> > Max NG7M
> >
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Re: [Elecraft] ​ Re: Narrow Gaming Keyboard and Giant Mouse Pads - K-Pod

[M. George]

Tim, you bring up a good point about how much time is spent interacting
with the keyboard.  Thanks for mentioning the WASD Cherry MX Switch Tester
<http://www.wasdkeyboards.com/index.php/wasd-6-key-cherry-mx-switch-tester.html>
too.
I didn't know that existed.  We are getting down into the weeds on keyboard
obsession. I totally understand sticking with your Compaq keyboard too

I didn't mention the O-rings earlier, but since you brought it up... for
others, it's a whole other level of customizing your keyboard feel.  I did
the same thing a few years ago.  Researched the O-rings and ended up
installing them on my keyboard pictured in the first post.  It's going to
an obsessive level, but you remove all the keys on the keyboard and install
rubber O-rings as the bummer when the key physically bottoms out on the
keyboard.  This can also quiet down the sound when using mechanical cherry
MX switches.

Anyway, maybe too much information on keyboards for most!

Thanks for jumping in Tim.

Max NG7M

On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 6:56 AM, Tim Gennett  wrote:

> When I think about how much time we spend in contact with our keyboards, I
> find it surprising how casual we can be when it comes to selecting a
> keyboard.  In a contest, I can go for hours without ever touching my
> radios, yet still log hundreds of QSO's just by typing on my keyboard.
>
> Several years ago, I thought I should dig into the subject and see if
> there was a better choice for me than the 1998 Compaq KB-3923 I was using.
> I purchased a WASD Cherry MX Switch Tester from Amazon and that did little
> to help.  The tester made it clear that I wanted non-clicky keys, but I was
> unable to make the final call between tactile and non-tactile switches, or
> how much activation force I preferred.  Then, when I threw in the effect of
> two different types of o-rings, I was quickly lost in the weeds.  Making a
> judgement by pressing on a single key on the tester is clearly NOT the same
> thing as typing at contest speeds on a full size keyboard.
>
> There are a half dozen or so gaming stores in my neck of the woods, but
> they typically don't stock a lot of keyboards, mostly just the game
> cartridges.  So these stores were not much help.  I checked exhibitors at a
> couple of computers shows but they typically did not have a full range of
> options available to test.
>
> For contesting, I like to mount a macro template to the keyboard, to help
> me find the right key in the heat of battle.  There may be better ways to
> do this but my technique requires a flat spot on the top or side of the
> keyboard case.  See picture at http://www.k9wx.net/downloads/IMG4799.JPG
>   And, because I operate SO2R, I insist on having a Pause key and a
> backslash key.  I know I could get around this by using AutoHotKey but I
> want to keep my setup as simple as possible and don't want to add yet
> another piece of software that has to be learned, maintained, and that can
> fail.
>
> Each time I have dug into this, I have always decided to stick with the
> Compaq.  But, tomorrow may be different.
>
> Tim K9WX
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Nov 25, 2016 at 7:54 AM, M. George 
> wrote:
>
>> The keyboard is a CM Storm QuickFire Rapid - Tenkeyless Mechanical Gaming
>> Keyboard with Cherry Switches.  These are very popular keyboards and are
>> still available in several different models, however there are many other
>> manufacturers that sell the same size / style of keyboard, with or without
>> cherry brand mechanical keys.  Search on Amazon as a starting point.
>>
>> If back lighting is important to you, make sure and search for one that
>> has back lighting. Since I bought mine there are some keyboards out there
>> now that let you control the lighting on a key by key basis... Also, know
>> that the mechanical cherry keys have a very distinctive click based on the
>> version of the Cherry switches. Here is a good gaming article that
>> describes the different cherry keys and how each version (color type) is
>> different.  i.e. Red, Blue, Brown Cherry switch types
>> <http://lifehacker.com/how-to-choose-the-best-mechanical-keyboard-and-why-you-511140347>
>> .
>>
>> Keyboards with cherry switches won't be inexpensive.  Expect to pay
>> $60-$100+ if you want cherry switches in a keyboard.  Plus, do the research
>> and know what to expect on the feel and sound of the keys.  You might drive
>> your XYL crazy typing on a cherry switch keyboard! ;)
>>
>> Again, other keyboards with the same form factor are out there with the
>> typical contact membrane key style, that is nearly silent... and mushy...
>> however, they can be had for $15-25.
>>
>> Just to  be clear, 

Re: [Elecraft] Narrow Gaming Keyboard and Giant Mouse Pads - K-Pod

[M. George]

Hi Kevin, I missed your note about the setup earlier. Yes, it's nice to set
things up the way you operate.  In my case, I have always had the K3 on the
left side to keep the right hand near the paddle and mouse, but now with
the K-Pod, I get the best of both worlds.  I can use the left hand on the
K3 if I want to tune the main VFO or RIT (for example), or I can do
everything with the right hand and keep the left hand on the left side of
the keyboard (obviously) to work the function keys etc... while having the
right hand ready to work the mouse, K-Pod or paddle.  When pouncing it's
really night with the K-Pod on the right if you want to use the paddle to
call or fill etc...

Max NG7M

On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 1:14 PM, Kevin - K4VD  wrote:

> ​I enjoy shack shots and this batch was great Max. I particularly liked
> the 1899 photo.
>
> I don't have a K-pod but something similar for my Flex setup (FlexRemote).
> I keep it on the left side so I can keep my right hand on the key or mouse.
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital on the K3S

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The K3S has a built in sound card... via the USB connection.  You can
download the manual for the K3S here and read about the USB interface and
sound card: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S%20Owner's%20man%20A1.pdf

Here is the review from the ARRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=wMy3f52sSvo

If the Elecraft user manual isn't enough and you are close to pulling the
trigger on a K3S, you might want to spend $45 on "The Elecraft K3S & P3" by
Fred Cady" (on the order page)  Well worth the investment.

At the end of the day, you don't need an external sound card, but you can
use one if you want to... then pair it up with the software of your choice,
fldigi, dxlab, mmtty, etc... etc...  Google, google, google... the sky is
the limit on the information you will find. YouTube etc...

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On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Bill DeVore  wrote:

> I'm new to Elecraft and was wondering how most of you handle digital
> communications.
>
> Use the K3 Utility program for digital modes or something like SignalLink
> USB with fldigi or equivalent?
>
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Re: [Elecraft] Digital on the K3S

[M. George]

Wow that ARRL review on the K3S was terrible (and I'm being generous)...
sorry I even put a link in for it.  There must be a better video review out
there.  Sorry.

Max NG7M

On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 9:41 PM, M. George 
wrote:

> The K3S has a built in sound card... via the USB connection.  You can
> download the manual for the K3S here and read about the USB interface and
> sound card: http://www.elecraft.com/manual/K3S%20Owner's%20man%20A1.pdf
>
> Here is the review from the ARRL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?
> v=wMy3f52sSvo
>
> If the Elecraft user manual isn't enough and you are close to pulling the
> trigger on a K3S, you might want to spend $45 on "The Elecraft K3S & P3" by
> Fred Cady" (on the order page)  Well worth the investment.
>
> At the end of the day, you don't need an external sound card, but you can
> use one if you want to... then pair it up with the software of your choice,
> fldigi, dxlab, mmtty, etc... etc...  Google, google, google... the sky is
> the limit on the information you will find. YouTube etc...
>
> Max NG7M
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2016 at 8:25 PM, Bill DeVore  wrote:
>
>> I'm new to Elecraft and was wondering how most of you handle digital
>> communications.
>>
>> Use the K3 Utility program for digital modes or something like SignalLink
>> USB with fldigi or equivalent?
>>
>> Bill - W3PNM
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Re: [Elecraft] Dummy loads for dummies

[M. George]

0-MHz.
>>
>
> I found a nice oil-cooled dummy load with a big heat sink integral to it
> at a hamfest many years ago. It's rated 500W continuous. That was a good
> day. Doorstop -- you betcha! :) Measured it with my VNWA and found that
> it's good well into UHF. No attached power meter though, but found a nice
> Bird with some slugs on another day.
>
> I've also found industrial quality 10W and 100W dummy loads at hamfests
> that were salvaged from cell sites. One purchase yielded nearly ten of them.
>
> This is the sort of stuff I look for at hamfests (some call them flea
> markets or swap meets). Also high quality connectors and adapters.
>
> 73, Jim K9YC
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Re: [Elecraft] WSJT-X MSK144 & Transmit Delay

[M. George]

PC Clock drift can be quite bad as we all know.  The default NTP server
sync interval for Windows 10, is once a week.  So your clock can be way off
by the time you sync again.  With a one time NTP sync, you can still be off
into the 100 ms range.  I suspect some of the JST related software etc...
might force a sync at startup and or do NTP server syncs on their own?
Someone else will need to chime in on that.

The best time sync you are going to get for Windows and Linux / BSD based
operating systems will be us use the full on NTP client.  For windows,
Meinberg has a nice graphical client that installs and sets itself up as a
service and disables the windows NTP client service.  During the Meinberg
NTP install, you have an option to draw from the NTP pool of NTP servers
and you can also type in your own preferred NTP server list.  The full NTP
client does more than just sync your clock... over time it will calculate
the drift of your clock and discipline your clock automatically between
sync checks to your selected NTP servers.  The drift is calculated in PPM
and for the curious you can see how bad your clock is.

Here is the link for the Win32 install of the Meinberg client (free):


https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp.htm#ntp_stable

I run 3 GPS disciplined NTP servers (3 separate GPS receivers) here at my
QTH and if you want, you are welcome to use time.nc7j.com as one of your
NTP servers.  On this end, time.nc7j.com is accurate into the nano second
range as compared to the GPS on board atomic clocks.  Via NTP UDP sync over
the Internet, the best you will typically do is get down into the lower
microsecond range...  and far more accurate than any thing most would ever
need.  time.nc7j.com is also a member of the NTP pool and you can see if
it's up and running be going to this link:
http://www.pool.ntp.org/scores/time.nc7j.com  The chart here doesn't show
the accuracy of the time.nc7j.com, but it shows the ping offset from LA to
Utah and it's normal to vary +- 10ms.  Your mileage will vary with your
round trip ping times to any NTP server, but over time, NTP will do an
amazing job of figuring out your PC clock drift and then disciplining it on
the fly.

For the totally 'time accuracy obsessed', you can install the Meinberg NTP
monitor too and monitor your clock accuracy via logged NTP statistics:
https://www.meinbergglobal.com/english/sw/ntp-server-monitor.htm#download

The Meinberg apps are GUI's that make native calls to the full NTP install
under the covers and they are totally free and free of any nag related
nonsense.

If you are running Linux or iOS, you are already running a native NTP
client I suspect and you can read up on how to configure it just like the
Meinberg Windows GUI's do for Windows.

Max NG7M

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On Mon, Jan 16, 2017 at 7:30 PM, stengrevics 
wrote:

> My clock is synched to time.nist.gov.  But, when I transmit on MSK144, I
> have
> a delay of 900 ms that pushes my transmission into the next sequence. Any
> thoughts?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John
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Re: [Elecraft] Frequency display on P3?

[M. George]

It sounds like you need to do the frequency calibration as documented on
page 39 of the manual
<https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740152%20P3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20H1.pdf>
:
https://ftp.elecraft.com/P3/Manuals%20Downloads/E740152%20P3%20Owner's%20man%20Rev%20H1.pdf

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On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 7:14 PM Frank O'Donnell  wrote:

> Here's what I'm sure is a beginner question.
>
> If I feed an accurate signal from a waveform generator into my K3S, on
> the P3 it appears right about 120 Hz higher than the actual frequency.
> This seems to be independent of the mode the K3S is in. What causes that?
>
> I noticed this when I had my K3S/P3 running while working the ARRL
> Frequency Measurement Test with other gear, and was curious about it.
>
> Thanks much,
>
> Frank K6FOD
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Re: [Elecraft] P3 Beep off

[M. George]

Go to the CONFIG SW TONE setting and change it to ON (the default).

Max NG7M

On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 7:32 PM Mike March  wrote:

> On my P3, the beep function has been disabled.  I cannot find a reference
> to this in the manual.  Has anyone else had this happen?  Thanks.
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Re: [Elecraft] Windows Needed

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[Elecraft] K3/100 For Sale / Serial# 6384 / 2RX / ATU / Synth Upgrades / USB K3IOB / X-Ref / DVR etc...

[M. George]

I'm putting my K3 (Serial# 6384) up for sale.  Do not reply to the list, I
will only reply to direct emails if you convince me you are serious and
then we set up time to talk on the phone (any cc'd reply / email to a
reflector will not receive a response).  I might consider shipping outside
of the US depending on the right offer etc... but would prefer shipping to
the CONUS. I can't find any cosmetic issues except for a couple of tiny,
tiny scuffs on the bottom.  I will NOT 'part' this K3 out at this point, so
DO NOT ask. I have other Elecraft 8 pole filters from another K3S I might
part with based on a real discussion on the phone and a real offer you are
making.  Based on my research (which I can't find an exact comparable), I'm
seeing a price that would be more than $2000 and less than $3000. So yeah,
I want to get serious offers when we have a phone call.  I'm not desperate
to sell... so please don't waste your time or mine.  No weird machinations
on payment either... Paypal? you pay all fees etc... or bank transfer or
cashiers check, and everything clears before I ship as one would expect.

Max NG7M / n...@arrl.net

What is included, K3/100 #6384 (includes all factory mods possible/required
for this serial number, including the K-Pod power mod, Filters are all
Elecraft labeled except for one as noted) Pictures as of the time of this
email
<http://www.nc7j.com/pa/main.php?cmd=album&var1=NG7M%2FRadios%2FK3%2FOct+10th+For+Sale+Pictures%2F>
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KIO3B USB Soundcard & FTDI serial port Upgrade (Al'a the K3S)
Two KSYN3 Upgrades, one for each receiver (Al'a the K3S)
ATU KAT3
KRX3 2nd RX
K3EXREF External 10mhz Reference Interface
KTCXO3-1 1ppm f/w correction to 0.5ppm reference crystal
Two KFL3A-2.8khz 8 pole filters (one for each RX)
One 2.4khz 8 pole filter (non-Elecraft it works great and it's 8-pole)
One KFL3A-400 400hz 8 pole filter
One KFL3A-250hz 8 pole filter
One KBPF3 General Coverage RX Module
KDVR3 Digital Voice Recorder
K3SSKT Stainless H/W Kit
Silicone tuning knob upgrade (Al'a the K3S)
Heavy Brass / Chrome Plated Main VFO and VFO B  Tuning Knobs, Took them off
after a few days, didn't like them personally, but they are heavy and shiny!
Original Manual and a real printed and purchased KE7X Fred Caddy K3 & P3
Third Edition Manual

Misc: I think I can find the original parts that were upgraded if you want
them and I believe I have all the original boxes if you really want them
(sales receipts) etc...
I will ship the K3 in an Elecrdaft K3 shipping box

I'm the original owner and for the last 4-5 years this K3 has rarely been
used, stored in a pelican case... only operated for a few remote outings.
I live in Utah, which is a super dry / low humidity climate / no smoking.
The SS screw / hardware kit, which is installed will show some screws that
are not solid black, this is normal for the SS hardware kit.  I usually
operate with an external amplifier so the high power amp in the K3 has
rarely been used at 100% output.

Pictures as of Oct 10th 2020, more can be provided if I determine you are
serious... internal etc..
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