Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM using RTTY and PSK
I don't know much about Rigblaster Advantage, or Microham, or Signalink [OK, I don't know anything about them], but you might try the "back to basics" approach and get 2 stereo cables and connect LINE IN to LINE OUT and vice-versa, and go AFSK [DATA MD A]. I do this using the MMTTY RTTY engine in N1MM, I key the K3 with VOX [be sure to turn off all the annoying Windoze sounds, and N1MM can be configured to assert PTT for you if you coordinate it with the K3 menu options]. In AFSK with MMTTY, you have several discrete choices of MARK/SPACE tones [PITCH knob], I use 915Hz because I can hear it, and MMTTY must be set to the same. You have the Windoze audio level controls, and those on the K3, and there's a combination for just about everyone. This may not be the ideal situation for everyone, but it is pretty basic, it removes many of the points of failure, and honestly, it worked so well for me, I've never gone beyond it for RTTY [and PSK, although that's not a mode I enjoy]. I've used it for JT65, another mode I only enjoy when I sort of like my mind to wander while making Q's. :-) My experience with trouble-shooting problems is, "eliminate as much 'stuff' as you can and see if the problem remains." Best of luck, I've finally gotten to the point where I can go from my "normal mode" [CW] to RTTY in less than 30 mins. I use the totally back-to-basics AFSK technique. 73, Fred K6DGW - Northern California Contest Club - CU in the 2014 Cal QSO Party 4-5 Oct 2014 - www.cqp.org On 12/8/2013 4:40 PM, jreedbum wrote: I had fun using N1MM in the CQWWCW contest last week. The N1MM online help got me started with little problem. Trying to get it working with RTTY was a different story. I never did succeed in getting a transmission out.By the way I'm using a Rigblaster Advantage, which shares rig control and soundcard control through the same com port. This didn't seem to make a difference with CW, though.Can anyone who has had success with N1MM in the digital modes share their settings or point me to some documentation? Reed AA1RB __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help
Fred
Regarding the repeat. If you hit F1 for CQ - but send hold rather than tap
to M1 - you then use the K3's repeat function so you can set the repeat gap
directly on the K3.
Roger - G4BVY
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From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
[mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Fred Jensen
Sent: 11 October 2011 18:25
To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help
I do this and it works absolutely great. Put the N1MM macros in the SSB
F-key slots. They look like {CAT1ASC K31;SWTxx;} which tells N1MM to send
"SWTxx" to K3 radio 1. "xx" is the front panel switch number for the Mx
keys:
M1: 21
M2: 31
M3: 35
M4: 39
All this does is emulate you tapping the M button. You can also do SWHxx
for the HOLD function. In fact, except for ARRL Sweepstakes with its really
long exchange, all I ever need is the CQ on M1, most contest exchanges are
so short and often have a variable component I have to say anyway that
storing them is more complicated than just saying them.
One issue, not really a problem, is to be aware that N1MM sends the macro
and thinks it is done. It has no idea how long your message[s] is/are. So,
when setting the AutoCQ Repeat Interval, you have to add the length of your
message to the repeat delay you want.
Because N1MM evaluates macros immediately, I've been unable to get a
"toggle" between Bank 1 and Bank 2 of the K3 DVR to work right, but I've
also never needed it.
I've checked with several locals using different combinations of spoken and
recorded audio, sometimes together, and they cannot tell the difference.
All the levels match perfectly, and there's a lot less wiring for hum and RF
to get into.
73,
Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org
On 10/11/2011 7:34 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
> Hi Karlfried
> There is another approach. Use the internal K3 digital voice
> recorder. You can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR
> messages. That way the recorded messages will sound exactly the same
> as the live voice as the same microphone/settings were used for the
> recording. Other benefits are that the mike is not live and you have
> not introduced other paths (computer and/or computer to rig audio path)
where RF can enter.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help
I do this and it works absolutely great. Put the N1MM macros in the SSB
F-key slots. They look like {CAT1ASC K31;SWTxx;} which tells N1MM to
send "SWTxx" to K3 radio 1. "xx" is the front panel switch number for
the Mx keys:
M1: 21
M2: 31
M3: 35
M4: 39
All this does is emulate you tapping the M button. You can also do
SWHxx for the HOLD function. In fact, except for ARRL Sweepstakes with
its really long exchange, all I ever need is the CQ on M1, most contest
exchanges are so short and often have a variable component I have to say
anyway that storing them is more complicated than just saying them.
One issue, not really a problem, is to be aware that N1MM sends the
macro and thinks it is done. It has no idea how long your message[s]
is/are. So, when setting the AutoCQ Repeat Interval, you have to add
the length of your message to the repeat delay you want.
Because N1MM evaluates macros immediately, I've been unable to get a
"toggle" between Bank 1 and Bank 2 of the K3 DVR to work right, but I've
also never needed it.
I've checked with several locals using different combinations of spoken
and recorded audio, sometimes together, and they cannot tell the
difference. All the levels match perfectly, and there's a lot less
wiring for hum and RF to get into.
73,
Fred K6DGW
- Northern California Contest Club
- CU in the 2012 Cal QSO Party 6-7 Oct 2012
- www.cqp.org
On 10/11/2011 7:34 AM, Roger Dixon wrote:
> Hi Karlfried
> There is another approach. Use the internal K3 digital voice recorder. You
> can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR messages. That way the
> recorded messages will sound exactly the same as the live voice as the same
> microphone/settings were used for the recording. Other benefits are that
> the mike is not live and you have not introduced other paths (computer
> and/or computer to rig audio path) where RF can enter.
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help
Hi Karlfried There is another approach. Use the internal K3 digital voice recorder. You can set macros on the N1MM F keys to play the DVR messages. That way the recorded messages will sound exactly the same as the live voice as the same microphone/settings were used for the recording. Other benefits are that the mike is not live and you have not introduced other paths (computer and/or computer to rig audio path) where RF can enter. 73 Roger - G4BVY -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of DL1EK Sent: 10 October 2011 20:40 To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM; TNX for help Many thanks for the help I received. I don't like the idea to connect the microphone to the soundcard. So I followed the advice of Joe, W4TV and tried it today. Perfect! I`m using a Heil-Proset and spent some hours to record and process all the soundpices like "CQ". Now you would hear a difference between Heil-Proset and the computervoice. vy 73 Karlfried, DL1EK / AA1EK __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
On Sun, Oct 9, 2011 at 2:22 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > > If you do not want to use an external interface or route the microphone > through the computer sound card - and don't mind the mic being live > while the N1MM voice messages are playing - set MENU:MIC+LINE = ON, > > = Right. This is simple and straightforward, and I suspect this is the way most guys have it set up. Joe's right that the mic is live, so if you have a headset boom mic you just have to remember not to clear your throat or whatever, but it's very convenient and it takes full advantage of the Elecraft design that avoids the need for an interface. 73, Tony KT0NY -- http://www.isb.edu/faculty/facultydir.aspx?ddlFaculty=352 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
On 10/9/2011 12:22 PM, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > If you do not want to use an external interface or route the microphone > through the computer sound card - and don't mind the mic being live > while the N1MM voice messages are playing - set MENU:MIC+LINE = ON, YES. I've done this since getting my first K3. it works VERY well, and I do a LOT of contesting. As Don and Joe have said, study the Elecraft manual to understand how to set levels for both mic and computer playback. Also see my Ham Interfacing tutorial for advice on how to get very clean audio to and from your sound card for both SSB and RTTY using nothing more than properly wired cables. http://audiosystemsgroup.com/HamInterfacing.pdf 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
If you do not want to use an external interface or route the microphone through the computer sound card - and don't mind the mic being live while the N1MM voice messages are playing - set MENU:MIC+LINE = ON, Check the K3 manual for details. 73, ... Joe, W4TV On 10/9/2011 2:04 PM, DL1EK wrote: > Hi all, > > today I tried with my 2-weeks old K3 and N1MM all the contest-settings > need for the comming Phone-CQWW. With the funktion-keys I can send a > sound to the K3 but then is the microphon dead or vice-versa. Is there > any way to use the mic and the line-input together? > > I have a K3 with all options except the transvertermodul. > > Any ideas? > vy 73 > Karlfried, DL1EK / AA1EK > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Post this to the N1MM list. I use the Microham MK2R+ or the Microkeyer to provide the interface for the audio/computer etc. Mike W0MU J6/W0MU November 21 - December 1 2011 CQ WW DX CW W0MU-1 CC Cluster w0mu.net On 10/9/2011 12:38 PM, Don Wilhelm wrote: > Karlfried, > > I believe the best solution is to connect a microphone to the computer > soundcard and use N1MM to pipe that audio to the radio. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > On 10/9/2011 2:04 PM, DL1EK wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> today I tried with my 2-weeks old K3 and N1MM all the contest-settings >> need for the comming Phone-CQWW. With the funktion-keys I can send a >> sound to the K3 but then is the microphon dead or vice-versa. Is there >> any way to use the mic and the line-input together? >> >> I have a K3 with all options except the transvertermodul. >> >> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Karlfried, I believe the best solution is to connect a microphone to the computer soundcard and use N1MM to pipe that audio to the radio. 73, Don W3FPR On 10/9/2011 2:04 PM, DL1EK wrote: > Hi all, > > today I tried with my 2-weeks old K3 and N1MM all the contest-settings > need for the comming Phone-CQWW. With the funktion-keys I can send a > sound to the K3 but then is the microphon dead or vice-versa. Is there > any way to use the mic and the line-input together? > > I have a K3 with all options except the transvertermodul. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
First of all, if you can talk to your K3 via your PC using the utility, the problem is NOT in the K3. Are you using the same computer to run the K3 utility as you are when running N1MM with the K3? Is there anything else on the RS232 line besides the PC and MM. If so, disconnect it. Is there any other program that looks at the same com port. If so shut it down. Does that program have a boot-up driver that runs all the time, then stop it. Try again. I'd guess half of K3 owners are on 4.03, and it has been out for quite a while. If there was an endemic RS232 problem it would have been howled out of existence a while ago. I note that you are setting memory locations. I think that is a real risk with Win 7 (I have Win 7 pro, using 4.03, a REAL serial port on a PCI-X serial card using one of three extra video slots that will never be used otherwise, and I let the OS configure memory locations and IRQ's (I don't understand your comment about Win 7 not supporting "real" serial ports -- that's simply not true, it's running here.) I have the hardware drivers for the serial card set up to claim COM1 and COM2. These are on board and operational at boot up, not when something is plugged in, which will always be a problem for USB configure at USB plug-in-time. 73, Guy. On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Tommy Alderman wrote: > Thanks Jim, but that is NOT the problem. I have had both the serial port and > K3's RS232 set to both 19200 b and also 38400 b and get the same results. > > I initially had the problem because my serial port was set to 19200 b and my > K3's RS232 was set for the default of 4800 b. After I changed RS232 to 19200 > b, the K3 and N1MM communicated excellent. AFTER updating the K3 firmware to > 4.03, again, the K3 and N1MM would not communicate. > > I am in the process of reverting the K3 firmware back to 3.xx. > > Thanks Jim and 73, > > Tom - W4BQF > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:16 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger > > On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:28:54 -0400, Tommy Alderman wrote: > >> It was working just fine right after I reset the >>RS242 to the correct (19200 b) baud rate; then I updated to the beta 4.03 >>firmware and now it does not talk to N1MM again. > > That's the problem. You must set BOTH the K3 and N1MM to the SAME baud rate. > > Changing it is what made it spit up. Like Guy, I use 38,400. Slower speeds > also work. > > 73, Jim K9YC > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
Thanks Jim, but that is NOT the problem. I have had both the serial port and K3's RS232 set to both 19200 b and also 38400 b and get the same results. I initially had the problem because my serial port was set to 19200 b and my K3's RS232 was set for the default of 4800 b. After I changed RS232 to 19200 b, the K3 and N1MM communicated excellent. AFTER updating the K3 firmware to 4.03, again, the K3 and N1MM would not communicate. I am in the process of reverting the K3 firmware back to 3.xx. Thanks Jim and 73, Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Jim Brown Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 2:16 PM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:28:54 -0400, Tommy Alderman wrote: > It was working just fine right after I reset the >RS242 to the correct (19200 b) baud rate; then I updated to the beta 4.03 >firmware and now it does not talk to N1MM again. That's the problem. You must set BOTH the K3 and N1MM to the SAME baud rate. Changing it is what made it spit up. Like Guy, I use 38,400. Slower speeds also work. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
On Tue, 3 Aug 2010 12:28:54 -0400, Tommy Alderman wrote: > It was working just fine right after I reset the >RS242 to the correct (19200 b) baud rate; then I updated to the beta 4.03 >firmware and now it does not talk to N1MM again. That's the problem. You must set BOTH the K3 and N1MM to the SAME baud rate. Changing it is what made it spit up. Like Guy, I use 38,400. Slower speeds also work. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
Bring up the K3 utility on your K3. Note the settings being used by the utility. Use those for ALL communications with the K3 over the serial port. I always use 38400. Is there some advantage to using less? Are you using a serial port on the computer or are you using a serial/USB converter? 73, Guy. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
You probably blew away the RS232 settings in the radio when you changed to beta firmware. Check it again. > No Mike, the only problem I'm having is with the frequency and mode > information into N1MM. It was working just fine right after I reset the > RS242 to the correct (19200 b) baud rate; then I updated to the beta 4.03 > firmware and now it does not talk to N1MM again. > > Right after updating to the beta firmware, I tested the CW QRQ and found > it > to really be excellent. I went from 50 wpm up to 100 wpm in 10 wpm > increments and the keying is just excellent. The characters are perfectly > formed up to 100 wpm, but around 95 or so wpm, something like an AGC hang > occurred. But they have done a really good job with this. > > Now if I can just solve the K3/N1MM communications problem I'll be all > set..hihi. > > Tom - W4BQF > > > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:52 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger > > Congrats, Tom. > > Do you have the K3 baud rate set to match? CONFIG:RS232? I have N/8/2 for > the other > parms. > > Can you connect to the K3 using the K3 utility? > > I'm a bit confused if you're having trouble with keying also, or just with > the > freq/mode stuff. > > 73, Mike > > On 8/3/2010 8:05 AM, Tommy Alderman wrote: >> I just received a new factory wired K3 (s/n 4521) and I can not get the >> K3/Logger to talk to each other. At this point I think the problem with > the >> K3 (and it's user!) but I am not sure. >> Prior to setting up my K3, I had been using an IC-7700, keying with COM1 > and >> interfacing with COM3, so I know those ports were working. I have a home >> brew keying circuit that works with various other programs, so I have no >> need to key the K3 through its serial port. >> What I have done is moved my keying circuit (it works fine with the K3) >> to >> the K3 and moved my COM3 serial cable to the K3. In Logger Config, I > changed >> from the IC-7700 to K3, I used the recommended configuration for the K3, >> i.e., 19600/N/8/1 and I have DTR and RTS set to 'Always OFF'. The CW/PTT >> Port Adr is set for 3E8. >> I have tried numerous other settings, N1MM recognizes it is connected to >> a >> K3, but I get no frequency readout. >> Sure would appreciate some constructive suggestions or some working >> configuration settings! >> Tom - W4BQF >> >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
No Mike, the only problem I'm having is with the frequency and mode information into N1MM. It was working just fine right after I reset the RS242 to the correct (19200 b) baud rate; then I updated to the beta 4.03 firmware and now it does not talk to N1MM again. Right after updating to the beta firmware, I tested the CW QRQ and found it to really be excellent. I went from 50 wpm up to 100 wpm in 10 wpm increments and the keying is just excellent. The characters are perfectly formed up to 100 wpm, but around 95 or so wpm, something like an AGC hang occurred. But they have done a really good job with this. Now if I can just solve the K3/N1MM communications problem I'll be all set..hihi. Tom - W4BQF -Original Message- From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Mike Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 9:52 AM To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Congrats, Tom. Do you have the K3 baud rate set to match? CONFIG:RS232? I have N/8/2 for the other parms. Can you connect to the K3 using the K3 utility? I'm a bit confused if you're having trouble with keying also, or just with the freq/mode stuff. 73, Mike On 8/3/2010 8:05 AM, Tommy Alderman wrote: > I just received a new factory wired K3 (s/n 4521) and I can not get the > K3/Logger to talk to each other. At this point I think the problem with the > K3 (and it's user!) but I am not sure. > Prior to setting up my K3, I had been using an IC-7700, keying with COM1 and > interfacing with COM3, so I know those ports were working. I have a home > brew keying circuit that works with various other programs, so I have no > need to key the K3 through its serial port. > What I have done is moved my keying circuit (it works fine with the K3) to > the K3 and moved my COM3 serial cable to the K3. In Logger Config, I changed > from the IC-7700 to K3, I used the recommended configuration for the K3, > i.e., 19600/N/8/1 and I have DTR and RTS set to 'Always OFF'. The CW/PTT > Port Adr is set for 3E8. > I have tried numerous other settings, N1MM recognizes it is connected to a > K3, but I get no frequency readout. > Sure would appreciate some constructive suggestions or some working > configuration settings! > Tom - W4BQF > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
Congrats, Tom. Do you have the K3 baud rate set to match? CONFIG:RS232? I have N/8/2 for the other parms. Can you connect to the K3 using the K3 utility? I'm a bit confused if you're having trouble with keying also, or just with the freq/mode stuff. 73, Mike On 8/3/2010 8:05 AM, Tommy Alderman wrote: > I just received a new factory wired K3 (s/n 4521) and I can not get the > K3/Logger to talk to each other. At this point I think the problem with the > K3 (and it's user!) but I am not sure. > Prior to setting up my K3, I had been using an IC-7700, keying with COM1 and > interfacing with COM3, so I know those ports were working. I have a home > brew keying circuit that works with various other programs, so I have no > need to key the K3 through its serial port. > What I have done is moved my keying circuit (it works fine with the K3) to > the K3 and moved my COM3 serial cable to the K3. In Logger Config, I changed > from the IC-7700 to K3, I used the recommended configuration for the K3, > i.e., 19600/N/8/1 and I have DTR and RTS set to 'Always OFF'. The CW/PTT > Port Adr is set for 3E8. > I have tried numerous other settings, N1MM recognizes it is connected to a > K3, but I get no frequency readout. > Sure would appreciate some constructive suggestions or some working > configuration settings! > Tom - W4BQF > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM -- Macros to key K3 DVR
Dave, Was it this? http://www.dseven.org/ar/n1mm-kdvr3 Jim N7US -Original Message- I asked on this reflector a couple of weeks ago if anyone knew of macros for N1MM to key the K3 DVR and some kind soul answered me with a link to go to. Alas, I lost that email and link and would like to get it again. This time I'll be more careful. Thanks in advance and 73, Dave __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM interface
Not all USB-serial converters are created alike. More info at the N1MM wiki here: http://n1mm.hamdocs.com/tiki-index.php?page=Interface+Devices&structure=N1MM+Logger+References+and+Appendices The one referenced in note 5 looks good at $15. Dave Hachadorian, K6LL Yuma, AZ -- From: "John McBee" Sent: Saturday, February 13, 2010 9:39 AM To: Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM interface > I am a new K3 owner and need some help with the k3 interface > with N1MM. I > have got it work with a Winkey, but would also like for N1MM to > keep track > of my band change and Freq. I have connected it to the > computer via RS323 > port to USB, but keep getting a error after a few minutes > connected this > way. I also get an error if I only use the RS232 port for > keying also. > Looks like the best way is to use the Winkey, but still would > like the > logging program to keep track of Band and Freq. Any help would > be great. > > > > Thanks > > John > > KM5PS > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: > http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM interface
KM5PS wrote: > I am a new K3 owner and need some help with the k3 interface with N1MM. I > have got it work with a Winkey, but would also like for N1MM to keep track > of my band change and Freq. I have connected it to the computer via RS323 > port to USB, but keep getting a error after a few minutes connected this > way. I also get an error if I only use the RS232 port for keying also. > Looks like the best way is to use the Winkey, but still would like the > logging program to keep track of Band and Freq. Any help would be great. John, If you take CW keying out of the picture, do you have basic radio control? If you set DTR and RTS on your radio control port both to "Always Off", does the program reliably read the frequency and mode from the radio? Note that some USB-to-serial adapters seem to have difficulty with low speeds; this may seem counter-intuitive, but you may be better off using the highest speed available (38400 bps). If you are trying to use CW keying on the same port as radio control, with the K3's CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to OFF-DTR, the first thing you need to know is that N1MM Logger does not fully support this capability, even using a true serial port. This configuration may work for you, but there are some aspects of the Logger's CW keying that are not guaranteed to work reliably in this configuration, such as using the ESC key to interrupt a message in progress. The second thing you need to know is that there is an incompatibility between the driver for USB-to-serial adapters using the Prolific chipset (like the KUSB) and the VB6 library used in the N1MM Logger software. This can manifest itself in various ways, some immediately obvious (e.g. an immediate catastrophic software crash) and some more subtle (e.g. an insidious gradual loss of sync between the radio and the software). Your best approach with N1MM Logger is to use two separate serial ports, one strictly for radio control, with DTR and RTS both set to Always Off and CONFIG:PTT-KEY set to OFF-OFF, and the second port for CW and PTT keying. The best solution for the second port is a Winkey USB, but there are several other possibilities. One other caution: The K3 offers many different ways to control PTT (TX/RX switching). You should not use two methods in parallel. In particular, do not use a software command and hardware keying in parallel. Using both software command and hardware keying in parallel can sometimes lead to a "race condition" in which the radio does not switch from TX back to RX. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM setup problem (Operator Error I suspect)
At 2/3/2010 10:52 AM, Tony McClenny wrote: >Please help me if you have time. > >I have the K3 connected to my computer via RS-232 cable for rig control >(works fine DX4Win logging and N1MM). I have two audio cables from the K3 >to the computer sound card, which work fine for rtty, PSK, etc. K3 PTT-KEY >is set to rts-dtr. You do not state where these two cables go. When I use my K3 with the N1MM logger DVR, all I need is one audio cable. I connect my microphone to the microphone input on my computer and the speaker out from the computer to the line in on the K3. I set the mic input on the K3 to line in. I can record and play back messages using the F keys, as well as use VOX (or PTT if you prefer) for talking live. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM setup problem (Operator Error I suspect)
Tony, Do you have the main menu for MIC+LIN to ON? Have you set the Line IN gain for those voice files? See the menu listing on page 52 of the manual to understand how to set the Line IN gain. 73, Don W3FPR Tony McClenny wrote: > I have the K3 connected to my computer via RS-232 cable for rig control > (works fine DX4Win logging and N1MM). I have two audio cables from the K3 > to the computer sound card, which work fine for rtty, PSK, etc. K3 PTT-KEY > is set to rts-dtr. > > When I click on the N1MM function key to transmit a voice file, the rig goes > into transmit mode BUT the voice file is not transmitted or if it is, I > cannot hear it in my headphones or via K3 speaker. The RF meter on the K3 > does not indicate any outgoing power. > > Can you determine from this information what I am missing? Thank you for > your consideration. > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM question
>2) You're running and start to respond to a station who calls you >but hear him repeat his call, so you stop sending (ESC). You're >using their "Enter Sends Message" mode, so should send >your exchange. But because you hit escape, it now asks the other >station for a fill rather than sending your exchange. Makes you >look stupid and slows everything down, in a very common situation. Yes, ESM is not perfect. You have to keep an eye on the screen to see what it is going to do next, because every now and then the focus is in the wrong place, causing ESM to be in the wrong state and do the wrong thing. Usually when the focus is in the wrong place a bash on the space bar will put it back where you wanted it. The other option is not to rely too heavily on the Enter key. Even with ESM on, you can use the function keys, Ins, ' and ; keys, and you can log without sending anything with Alt+Enter (or Ctrl+Alt+Enter if the program won't let you log a contact because of an apparently defective call sign or exchange). As with any complex software, it takes some experimenting to learn how to use it effectively, especially if you are coming from a different software package. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 11:32:45 -0500, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: >There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. Yes. While I like the N1MM logger, use it, and recommend it to others, it has it's problems, and those who write the software don't like to be told about them. I learned that the hard way -- when I did, they took me off their email list. :) My primary issues are 1) If the exchange you enter isn't what N1MM is programmed to accept, it won't log the QSO, BUT IT WON'T TELL YOU! I worked KP2D, but because the country file was "old" it didn't believe KP2D was a good call, so it refused to save it. Why wasn't the country file good? Because N1MM had crashed halfway throught the contest, and I hadn't reloaded the current one. So I made this QSO, but it's not in my log. I lose the Q, and the other guy gets penalized for two QSOs! I asked for a switch setting to ALWAYS SAVE a Q, no matter what, and let me fix it later. They refused to do that. Why? They don't want N1MM to save a "bad QSO." 2) You're running and start to respond to a station who calls you but hear him repeat his call, so you stop sending (ESC). You're using their "Enter Sends Message" mode, so should send your exchange. But because you hit escape, it now asks the other station for a fill rather than sending your exchange. Makes you look stupid and slows everything down, in a very common situation. In comparison to these issues, control issues with the K3 are minor. :) 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
OOps, missed this one. Sorry. --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > From: Guy Olinger K2AV > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question > To: "bob finger" > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:26 AM > In N1MM on entry window, click config > in menu bar. About half way down, > click on "Dual RX always on". > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:06 AM, bob finger > wrote: > > > I'm a brand new K3 user. Had it since yesterday and > already love it. > > I want to use the radio in split with both receivers > linked all the > > time. Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a > simplex spot both split > > and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how > I can defeat this so > > radio stays in split mode? Thanks for the > help. 73 bob de w9ge > > > > -- > > > > > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
Perhaps related to 4 -- clicking on a spot in VFO-A bandmap turns off the sub-receiver if it's on. --- On Tue, 1/5/10, Joe Subich, W4TV wrote: > From: Joe Subich, W4TV > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question > To: "'Barry N1EU'" , elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Date: Tuesday, January 5, 2010, 8:32 AM > > There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. > > > 1) N1MM Logger sets the "wrong" sideband when changing > bands > because it sets mode before changing > frequencies > 2) N1MM logger drops out of "run" when operating split and > > tuning VFO A (receive VFO) > 3) the UP/DN keys for moving RIT operate in a fixed 20 Hz > or 100 Hz step instead of the values set > in the N1MM > configuration. > 4) N1MM Logger does not follow the split/sub status set on > > the transceiver front panel (even though > support is > present in the K3 CAT protocol to > determine sub/split > status). > > 73, > > ... Joe, W4TV > > > > > -Original Message- > > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > > > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] > On Behalf Of Barry N1EU > > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:46 AM > > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question > > > > > > > > Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM > Logger's > > control of the K3 isn't "rock solid." > > > > The best you can probably do for now is to check the > config > > setting "dual rx always on." With that setting, > the subrx > > "should" stay on when a spot is > > grabbed. Personally, I'd like the > software to leave the > > subrx alone and > > allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able > to > > persuade the programmers. > > > > With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the > > > program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. > Otherwise, > > it doesn't know of any changes to split status. > This is > > another area that needs programming attention. > > > > Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas > of K3 > > control in the near future. > > > > 73, > > Barry N1EU > > > > > > > > bob finger wrote: > > > > > > Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex > spot both split > > > and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone > know how I can > > defeat this so > > > radio stays in split mode? > > > > > > > -- > > View this message in context: > > http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html > > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at > Nabble.com. > > > __ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
There are several other issues with N1MM Logger and the K3. 1) N1MM Logger sets the "wrong" sideband when changing bands because it sets mode before changing frequencies 2) N1MM logger drops out of "run" when operating split and tuning VFO A (receive VFO) 3) the UP/DN keys for moving RIT operate in a fixed 20 Hz or 100 Hz step instead of the values set in the N1MM configuration. 4) N1MM Logger does not follow the split/sub status set on the transceiver front panel (even though support is present in the K3 CAT protocol to determine sub/split status). 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Barry N1EU > Sent: Tuesday, January 05, 2010 10:46 AM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question > > > > Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM Logger's > control of the K3 isn't "rock solid." > > The best you can probably do for now is to check the config > setting "dual rx always on." With that setting, the subrx > "should" stay on when a spot is > grabbed. Personally, I'd like the software to leave the > subrx alone and > allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able to > persuade the programmers. > > With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the > program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. Otherwise, > it doesn't know of any changes to split status. This is > another area that needs programming attention. > > Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 > control in the near future. > > 73, > Barry N1EU > > > > bob finger wrote: > > > > Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split > > and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can > defeat this so > > radio stays in split mode? > > > > -- > View this message in context: > http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html > Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
In N1MM on entry window, click config in menu bar. About half way down, click on "Dual RX always on". On Tue, Jan 5, 2010 at 10:06 AM, bob finger wrote: > I'm a brand new K3 user. Had it since yesterday and already love it. > I want to use the radio in split with both receivers linked all the > time. Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split > and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so > radio stays in split mode? Thanks for the help. 73 bob de w9ge > > -- > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and N1MM question
Bob, you're touching on a couple of areas where N1MM Logger's control of the K3 isn't "rock solid." The best you can probably do for now is to check the config setting "dual rx always on." With that setting, the subrx "should" stay on when a spot is grabbed. Personally, I'd like the software to leave the subrx alone and allow me to control it manually, but haven't been able to persuade the programmers. With the current N1MM implementation, you must use the program to set and reset split mode via alt-f7. Otherwise, it doesn't know of any changes to split status. This is another area that needs programming attention. Hopefully, N1MM Logger will improve in these two areas of K3 control in the near future. 73, Barry N1EU bob finger wrote: > > Unfortunately with N1MM if I click on a simplex spot both split > and sub receiver are turned off. Anyone know how I can defeat this so > radio stays in split mode? > -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-N1MM-question-tp4255584p4255791.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM help please
Thanks. Was also fighting this with many combinations between the K3 and N1MM. Never would have come up with the rts-dtr. Did a few Qs with the memory and paddle, may get a few in with N1MM. This got it keying. 73 de W3OU Steve -Original Message- From: Joe Subich, W4TV To: dbellw...@aol.com; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 3:53 pm Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM help please Dave, > My N1MM settings are: Com 1, K3, no checks, 4,800, N, 8, 1, > DTR Always On, RTS Always Off. You need to set N1MM Logger to DTR=CW and RTS=PTT and check CW on the radio port (uncheck CW on all other ports). > My K3 PTT-KEY setting is rts - OFF. I've tried about every > PTT--KEY setting there is and none of them work. With the change to N1MM Logger, you need to set the PTT-KEY in the K3 to rts-dtr. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > dbellw...@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:02 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM help please > > > I can't get my K3 to respond to the N1MM "F" keys. The F > keys are all > programmed and when I press one, the red TX light on the K3 > lights up, the > receiver mutes, but there's no transmit signal on CW -- I > haven't tried SSB > yet. The frequency on the K3 tracks fine in N1MM. The K3 is > NOT in test > mode, the CW icon is on, VOX is on, QSK is on. > > My N1MM settings are: Com 1, K3, no checks, 4,800, N, 8, 1, > DTR Always On, > RTS Always Off. Incidentally, N1MM suggests for a K3 that > both DTR and > RTS be on, but it didn't make any difference -- same result > both ways. Com 3 > is not checked under radio, but is checked for CW, DTR=CW, > RTS=Always Off, > Tx=1. No other Com ports have checks of any kind. > Incidentally, while my > reading of the N1MM instructions would make you think you > need a check for > Telnet, that is not the case. Telnet works fine without a > check. Packet > may not but I didn't check. > > My K3 PTT-KEY setting is rts - OFF. I've tried about every PTT--KEY > setting there is and none of them work. I must say that the > Config menu setting > in the K3 Owner's Manual (the latest, online) is really > inadequate in my > opinion. Two of my computer savvy friends worked on this > problem with me > and neither has come up with a solution. > > Hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel. > > 73, Dave > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM help please
Dave, > My N1MM settings are: Com 1, K3, no checks, 4,800, N, 8, 1, > DTR Always On, RTS Always Off. You need to set N1MM Logger to DTR=CW and RTS=PTT and check CW on the radio port (uncheck CW on all other ports). > My K3 PTT-KEY setting is rts - OFF. I've tried about every > PTT--KEY setting there is and none of them work. With the change to N1MM Logger, you need to set the PTT-KEY in the K3 to rts-dtr. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of > dbellw...@aol.com > Sent: Sunday, November 08, 2009 3:02 PM > To: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM help please > > > I can't get my K3 to respond to the N1MM "F" keys. The F > keys are all > programmed and when I press one, the red TX light on the K3 > lights up, the > receiver mutes, but there's no transmit signal on CW -- I > haven't tried SSB > yet. The frequency on the K3 tracks fine in N1MM. The K3 is > NOT in test > mode, the CW icon is on, VOX is on, QSK is on. > > My N1MM settings are: Com 1, K3, no checks, 4,800, N, 8, 1, > DTR Always On, > RTS Always Off. Incidentally, N1MM suggests for a K3 that > both DTR and > RTS be on, but it didn't make any difference -- same result > both ways. Com 3 > is not checked under radio, but is checked for CW, DTR=CW, > RTS=Always Off, > Tx=1. No other Com ports have checks of any kind. > Incidentally, while my > reading of the N1MM instructions would make you think you > need a check for > Telnet, that is not the case. Telnet works fine without a > check. Packet > may not but I didn't check. > > My K3 PTT-KEY setting is rts - OFF. I've tried about every PTT--KEY > setting there is and none of them work. I must say that the > Config menu setting > in the K3 Owner's Manual (the latest, online) is really > inadequate in my > opinion. Two of my computer savvy friends worked on this > problem with me > and neither has come up with a solution. > > Hoping for some light at the end of the tunnel. > > 73, Dave > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and n1mm comm problem
Try getting an adapter with an FTDI chipset. I can't guarantee that it will solve the problem, but it did solve all the problems I have experienced with Prolific chipset adapters, and one distributor of USB devices states that the FTDI adapters are more reliable than the Prolific adapters. - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/k3-and-n1mm-comm-problem-tp3301137p3301953.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and n1mm comm problem
Recent versions of N1MM Logger seem to have problems with serial port CW keying via the K3's radio control port, at least when that port is a USB adapter. Try setting DTR and RTS both to Always Off and unchecking the CW/Other box beside the port in the N1MM Configurer to see if that gets your radio control working. You might also try different speeds. The USB adapter may work better at higher speeds. I use 38400 baud with a Prolific adapter with no problems, provided I don't try to do radio control and CW keying on the same port (either one alone works fine, but trying both together produces very similar symptoms to the ones you describe). If this solves the connection problem, you may have to consider using a second USB port for CW, in which case the optimal solution would probably be a WKUSB. 73, Rich VE3KI __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] k3 and n1mm comm problem
Joe, I am not certain what you are dong wrong (if anything). If it is intelligent and lucid for even brief moments, you likely have things correct, but you are getting data corruption somewhere. Try increasing the data speed. Many USB to serial adapters work fine at high speeds, but will fail at lower speeds like 4800 bps. I know that is not 'intuitive', but it is 'just the way it is'. 73, Don W3FPR Joe Ford wrote: > I am trying to help a friend configure n1mm to work with his k3. My k3 works > fine with n1mm from both my desktop and laptop. They both use a serial db9 to > db9 connection. My friends laptop has no serial connection. We are using the > KUSB with drivers downloaded from the link on Elecraft's software page. Using > the same config I use for my pc/k3 (Off-DTR &4800b in the k3 and 4800,n,8,1; > dtr=cw rts=off) when we start n1mm we get errors from n1mm such as > EntryWindow (CommPort Dev_OnComm-6). Also intermittently we can connect and > read to rig info. But mostly we don't seem to connect. I got the comm port nr > from Device mgr. > > What are we doing wrong? > > Joe > k4nvj > k3#241 > > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.21/2252 - Release Date: 07/21/09 > 05:58:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Bob, Not to worry about the logical function, different minds think of it in different ways. My thinking is that an active low on either the dot OR dash contacts makes the output low. That goes back to my old TTL thinking of wire ORs to extend the OR function. But if you use an OR function "upside down", it becomes an AND function. Strictly semantics and mindsets within the logic world. You will be able to parallel you straight key and external keyer and computer keying connections together without isolating diodes as long as one of the external devices does not interfere with another one - the K3 will not care as long as it sees a low level on the key input. With the K3 and the paddle input, it is different than the K2. If you intend to use your paddles with the internal K3 keyer, you will have to plug the paddles into the PADDLE jack on the back of the K3. That is the only difference. 73, Don W3FPR Bob wrote: > Hi Don, > > OK, I was not sure about the K3 but threw it out there as > food for though. Maybe my choice of terminology was wrong but I'm > pulling both the Dash "and" Dot lines low through the diodes with the > straight key contact and do the same with the K1EL. The K2 does the > auto-detect. It is active low with the key so maybe NAND ?Or, and > I'm not trying to be facetious, did you mean that the different devices > are logical OR'ed . I actually have 4 devices that can key the K2 in > parallel. I didn't see any need to diode isolate them, only to combine > the separate dot & dash lines for single line keying. > > Works fine, but explanation may be lacking. > > 73, > Bob > K2TK > > Don Wilhelm wrote: > >> Bob, >> >> You will not be able to use the 2 diodes (BTW, that is a logical OR >> function - it is 'active low') with the K3. >> The K3 has a KEY input in addition to the PADDLES input. You can >> connect the paddles to the paddle input, but you will have to add a >> cable to the straight key to run to the KEY jack. Yes, you should be >> able to connect the straight key and the computer keying line in >> parallel. >> >> 73, >> Don W3FPR >> >> Bob wrote: >> >>> I'm going a little out on a limb here as I don't know if the K3 has >>> the same feature as the K2 does. >>> >>> The K2 acts as it is in a straight key mode if both Paddle lines are >>> pulled down at the same time. >>> I use a old Brown Brothers that has a straight key and paddle on it. >>> The straight key has two diodes >>> to "and" the lines so it can be used or the K2 internal keyer. Also >>> using a Radio Shack Y connector and >>> diodes "And"'ing also lets the K1EL USB keyer key the K2. In >>> addition the K24U program >>> can trigger the K2 memories. The K1EL also has its own paddle. Any >>> can be used at any time. The only >>> exception to that is that only one program can use the serial port to >>> the K2. >>> >>> That has not been a problem for me but if it were possibly a work >>> around could be with one of the virtual >>> serial port emulators. So far I've been happy with this flexibility. >>> >>> 73, >>> Bob K2TK >>> >>> > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.5.375 / Virus Database: 270.13.19/2245 - Release Date: 07/18/09 > 05:57:00 > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Hi Don, OK, I was not sure about the K3 but threw it out there as food for though. Maybe my choice of terminology was wrong but I'm pulling both the Dash "and" Dot lines low through the diodes with the straight key contact and do the same with the K1EL. The K2 does the auto-detect. It is active low with the key so maybe NAND ?Or, and I'm not trying to be facetious, did you mean that the different devices are logical OR'ed . I actually have 4 devices that can key the K2 in parallel. I didn't see any need to diode isolate them, only to combine the separate dot & dash lines for single line keying. Works fine, but explanation may be lacking. 73, Bob K2TK Don Wilhelm wrote: > Bob, > > You will not be able to use the 2 diodes (BTW, that is a logical OR > function - it is 'active low') with the K3. > The K3 has a KEY input in addition to the PADDLES input. You can > connect the paddles to the paddle input, but you will have to add a > cable to the straight key to run to the KEY jack. Yes, you should be > able to connect the straight key and the computer keying line in > parallel. > > 73, > Don W3FPR > > Bob wrote: >> I'm going a little out on a limb here as I don't know if the K3 has >> the same feature as the K2 does. >> >> The K2 acts as it is in a straight key mode if both Paddle lines are >> pulled down at the same time. >> I use a old Brown Brothers that has a straight key and paddle on it. >> The straight key has two diodes >> to "and" the lines so it can be used or the K2 internal keyer. Also >> using a Radio Shack Y connector and >> diodes "And"'ing also lets the K1EL USB keyer key the K2. In >> addition the K24U program >> can trigger the K2 memories. The K1EL also has its own paddle. Any >> can be used at any time. The only >> exception to that is that only one program can use the serial port to >> the K2. >> >> That has not been a problem for me but if it were possibly a work >> around could be with one of the virtual >> serial port emulators. So far I've been happy with this flexibility. >> >> 73, >> Bob K2TK >> > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Bob, You will not be able to use the 2 diodes (BTW, that is a logical OR function - it is 'active low') with the K3. The K3 has a KEY input in addition to the PADDLES input. You can connect the paddles to the paddle input, but you will have to add a cable to the straight key to run to the KEY jack. Yes, you should be able to connect the straight key and the computer keying line in parallel. 73, Don W3FPR Bob wrote: > I'm going a little out on a limb here as I don't know if the K3 has the > same feature as the K2 does. > > The K2 acts as it is in a straight key mode if both Paddle lines are > pulled down at the same time. > I use a old Brown Brothers that has a straight key and paddle on it. > The straight key has two diodes > to "and" the lines so it can be used or the K2 internal keyer. Also > using a Radio Shack Y connector and > diodes "And"'ing also lets the K1EL USB keyer key the K2. In addition > the K24U program > can trigger the K2 memories. The K1EL also has its own paddle. Any can > be used at any time. The only > exception to that is that only one program can use the serial port to > the K2. > > That has not been a problem for me but if it were possibly a work around > could be with one of the virtual > serial port emulators. So far I've been happy with this flexibility. > > 73, > Bob K2TK > > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
I'm going a little out on a limb here as I don't know if the K3 has the same feature as the K2 does. The K2 acts as it is in a straight key mode if both Paddle lines are pulled down at the same time. I use a old Brown Brothers that has a straight key and paddle on it. The straight key has two diodes to "and" the lines so it can be used or the K2 internal keyer. Also using a Radio Shack Y connector and diodes "And"'ing also lets the K1EL USB keyer key the K2. In addition the K24U program can trigger the K2 memories. The K1EL also has its own paddle. Any can be used at any time. The only exception to that is that only one program can use the serial port to the K2. That has not been a problem for me but if it were possibly a work around could be with one of the virtual serial port emulators. So far I've been happy with this flexibility. 73, Bob K2TK Guy Olinger K2AV wrote: > Wouldn't the trick be to get the separate K3 paddle to initiate a signal > back to the computer over the cat cable so that paddle input would stop a > computer generated sequence in its tracks? > > That would mean that K3 would always generate an unsolicited "paddle-active" > signal output outbound on CAT toward the computer, and whatever was on the > computer side of CAT cable would have to be looking for it and respond by > halting any earlier ongoing response and killing anything leftover in a > buffer. > > That's not just one man's code. But agree it would be nice, because paddle > could always be hooked up to K3, casual or contest. > > 73, Guy. > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Brett Howard wrote: > > >> Boy it sure seems like N1MM should be able to support the keyer in the >> k3 and allow you to set the speed and probably also read the speed that >> is set by the knob just like the K1EL unit. Then the whole thing would >> fit in one box with paddle break in and all... Just seems like it >> should be able to be supported. Would be even cooler if the K3 could >> support the K1EL protocol but thats probably a bit rude to do to K1EL. >> >> Anyway just thinking out loud... >> >> ~Brett >> >> On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 03:22 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: >> >>> Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: >>> You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary text. > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
> Boy it sure seems like N1MM should be able to support the > keyer in the k3 and allow you to set the speed and probably > also read the speed that is set by the knob just like the > K1EL unit. The N1MM developers have spoken to this many times: 1) "KY;" and "KS;" are not broadly applicable (only Kenwood, Elecraft and "new" Yaesu rigs support it), 2) the implementation is not consistent (Yaesu only sends stored messages), 3) there is no "edit" capability, and 4) there is no "message finished" status. The benefits to be gained from supporting the "KY;" and "KS;" commands simply do not, in their collective opinion, justify the effort involved in a major rewrite of the CW interface code and making the CW interface code transceiver dependent (it is currently transceiver agnostic). This is particularly true when the K1EL serial WinKeyer 2 kit is available for less than $40 and WinKey is available in products from several manufacturers. 73, ... Joe, W4TV > -Original Message- > From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net > [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard > Sent: Saturday, July 18, 2009 3:16 PM > To: Julian, G4ILO > Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net > Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM > > > Boy it sure seems like N1MM should be able to support the > keyer in the k3 and allow you to set the speed and probably > also read the speed that is set by the knob just like the > K1EL unit. Then the whole thing would fit in one box with > paddle break in and all... Just seems like it should be able > to be supported. Would be even cooler if the K3 could > support the K1EL protocol but thats probably a bit rude to do > to K1EL. > > Anyway just thinking out loud... > > ~Brett > > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 03:22 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: > > > > > > Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: > > > You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger > > > does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary > > > text. > > > > > Actually it's the KY...; command. KS sets the speed. :) > > > > - > > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. > > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com > > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html > > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Wouldn't the trick be to get the separate K3 paddle to initiate a signal back to the computer over the cat cable so that paddle input would stop a computer generated sequence in its tracks? That would mean that K3 would always generate an unsolicited "paddle-active" signal output outbound on CAT toward the computer, and whatever was on the computer side of CAT cable would have to be looking for it and respond by halting any earlier ongoing response and killing anything leftover in a buffer. That's not just one man's code. But agree it would be nice, because paddle could always be hooked up to K3, casual or contest. 73, Guy. On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 3:15 PM, Brett Howard wrote: > Boy it sure seems like N1MM should be able to support the keyer in the > k3 and allow you to set the speed and probably also read the speed that > is set by the knob just like the K1EL unit. Then the whole thing would > fit in one box with paddle break in and all... Just seems like it > should be able to be supported. Would be even cooler if the K3 could > support the K1EL protocol but thats probably a bit rude to do to K1EL. > > Anyway just thinking out loud... > > ~Brett > > On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 03:22 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: > > > > > > Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: > > > You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger > > > does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary > > > text. > > > > > Actually it's the KY...; command. KS sets the speed. :) > > > > - > > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. > > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com > > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html > > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html > > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > -- 73, Guy K2AV __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Boy it sure seems like N1MM should be able to support the keyer in the k3 and allow you to set the speed and probably also read the speed that is set by the knob just like the K1EL unit. Then the whole thing would fit in one box with paddle break in and all... Just seems like it should be able to be supported. Would be even cooler if the K3 could support the K1EL protocol but thats probably a bit rude to do to K1EL. Anyway just thinking out loud... ~Brett On Sat, 2009-07-18 at 03:22 -0700, Julian, G4ILO wrote: > > > Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: > > You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger > > does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary > > text. > > > Actually it's the KY...; command. KS sets the speed. :) > > - > Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. > * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com > * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html > * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Joe Subich, W4TV-4 wrote: > You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger > does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary > text. > Actually it's the KY...; command. KS sets the speed. :) - Julian, G4ILO. K2 #392 K3 #222. * G4ILO's Shack - http://www.g4ilo.com * KComm - http://www.g4ilo.com/kcomm.html * KTune - http://www.g4ilo.com/ktune.html -- View this message in context: http://n2.nabble.com/K3-and-N1MM-tp3276894p3280131.html Sent from the Elecraft mailing list archive at Nabble.com. __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Brett Howard asked: > Is there a way to use the internal keyer in the K3 with N1MM or do you > have to use the DTR/RTS in the key jack method? N1MM Logger does not support the KY software command that makes use of the K3's internal tuner. I believe there are implementation reasons for this limitation, in which case it might not be an easy limitation to remove. You can use: - DTR or RTS on the radio control port without any additional hardware (with some limitations that are described in the N1MM Logger documentation); - DTR or RTS on any other serial port with a keying transistor to the K3's key jack; or - parallel port keying to the K3's key jack (I don't know whether this can be made to work under Linux, though - it requires the DLPORTIO driver under WinXP). All of these can be affected by Windows timing problems. The standard recommended solution is the WKUSB (or a serial WinKeyer), which unfortunately requires an extra box. 73, Rich VE3KI K3 #1595 __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
> Is there a way to use the internal keyer in the K3 with N1MM
> or do you have to use the DTR/RTS in the key jack method.
You can use the internal keyer with paddles but N1MM Logger
does not support the "KS;" keyer command for sending arbitrary
text. If your messages were less than 24 characters, you
could probably finesse the thing by using {CATASC ...} commands
to send short strings or to recall the K3's built in memories.
> Or should I go and buy this lil kit:
> http://k1el.tripod.com/WKUSB.html
The K1EL WKUSB or Serial WinKeyer 2:
http://k1el.tripod.com/WK2Serial.html
are the best way to handle CW with any software package
that includes WinKey support. You get CPU independent
CW plus paddle input that integrates with the software
(much like paddle input was integrated with TRlog).
73,
... Joe, W4TV
> -Original Message-
> From: elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:elecraft-boun...@mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of Brett Howard
> Sent: Friday, July 17, 2009 9:45 PM
> To: Richard Meilstrup
> Cc: elecraft@mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
>
>
> Is there a way to use the internal keyer in the K3 with N1MM
> or do you have to use the DTR/RTS in the key jack method. I
> run windows in a virtual machine under linux which makes the
> Windows timing even more grossly disgusting for keying. It
> certainly seems like the K3s keyer should be able to work a
> lot like a win keyer and just have everything in one box but
> I've been unable to pull it off. Not sure if its a problem
> with the virtual machine setup or what...
>
> So should I be able to get that to work fairly easily if I
> wasn't running the virtual machine? If so I just need to
> know that and I'll find the problem in the UART passthrough
> in Linux... Or should I go and buy this lil kit:
> http://k1el.tripod.com/WKUSB.html
>
> (or is there a better kit that I should be looking at?)
>
> ~Brett
>
> On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 19:52 +0200, Richard Meilstrup wrote:
> > Thanks a lot to N6ML, N0SS, and N4XD for advice. I have now N1MM
> > running beautifully on CW, and the same goes for the CW-machine in
> > Logger32. Rick, OZ5RM
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Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM
Is there a way to use the internal keyer in the K3 with N1MM or do you have to use the DTR/RTS in the key jack method. I run windows in a virtual machine under linux which makes the Windows timing even more grossly disgusting for keying. It certainly seems like the K3s keyer should be able to work a lot like a win keyer and just have everything in one box but I've been unable to pull it off. Not sure if its a problem with the virtual machine setup or what... So should I be able to get that to work fairly easily if I wasn't running the virtual machine? If so I just need to know that and I'll find the problem in the UART passthrough in Linux... Or should I go and buy this lil kit: http://k1el.tripod.com/WKUSB.html (or is there a better kit that I should be looking at?) ~Brett On Fri, 2009-07-17 at 19:52 +0200, Richard Meilstrup wrote: > Thanks a lot to N6ML, N0SS, and N4XD for advice. I have now N1MM running > beautifully on CW, and the same goes for the CW-machine in Logger32. > Rick, OZ5RM > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
Thanks Andy. I tried different delay settings but they did not solve the problem. But I do now have a Microham MKII I need to install that I am sure will solve any related issues. On the otherhandsimply not setting up PTT in MM fixed the problem too. This also may have been related to using MM with a Parallels interface on a 3.0G iMac. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Mar 17 12:07 , "Andrew Faber" sent: >Greg, > I noticed the same problem sending CW to the K3 using my own software, >CQPWIN, and a Winkeyer when using the Winkeyer to assert PTT. The cure was >adding even a small amount of Winkey keying delay (as little as 10 msec did >the trick). So if N1MM allows you to do that, you might investigate it. >Also, using the Winkeyer does allow one to avoid having another line for >PTT. And with modern laptops there is an advantage that you can use it >directly attached to a USB port without any serial port converters needed >(the Winkey software generates a virtual serial port that the computer >uses). > 73, Andy, ae6y >- Original Message - >From: "Jim Brown" j...@audiosystemsgroup.com> >To: "Elecraft List" elecraft@mailman.qth.net> >Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:36 AM >Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone > > >> On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:55:22 -0400, Greg - AB7R wrote: >> >>>Hi Jim. I've notice something like timing problems or part of >> the >>>first character being chopped when CW AND PTT are set at the same >>>time. If I only set either DTR or RTS to key CW and no PTT >> action >>>it keys perfectly. >> >> Thanks, Greg. Good information. The sub-programs within N1MM and >> other logging software that sends CW is one of the weakest parts >> of those programs, and it doesn't take much to degrade the CW. In >> general, the faster the machine and the more memory it has >> available, the better the CW works. The computer in my shack is a >> five year old, 1.1 GHz Thinkpad (T22) with 512MB, and it has never >> had a problem with CW, even with a lot of other stuff running at >> the same time. >> >> Another point. As code for the K3 evolves, the guys who write the >> radio control elements of logging software are pedaling as fast as >> they can to keep up. There are also some differences in the way >> the K3 does things as compared to other radios, and the guys who >> are writing the code for the loggers aren't always aware of them. >> As a result, there ARE some flakinesses in that part of the >> software. All of this is gradually being worked out, as Wayne and >> Lyle implement more features that we ask for and tweak the way >> things operate. >> >> One example. One thing I LOVE about the K3 is that "normal" puts >> CW on the same sideband on all bands, whereas most radios use LSB >> on 40M and below, USB above 40M. >> >> 73, >> >> Jim K9YC >> >> >> __ >> Elecraft mailing list >> Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >> Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >> Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')">Elecraft@mailman.qth.net >> >> This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >> Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')">Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
Greg, I noticed the same problem sending CW to the K3 using my own software, CQPWIN, and a Winkeyer when using the Winkeyer to assert PTT. The cure was adding even a small amount of Winkey keying delay (as little as 10 msec did the trick). So if N1MM allows you to do that, you might investigate it. Also, using the Winkeyer does allow one to avoid having another line for PTT. And with modern laptops there is an advantage that you can use it directly attached to a USB port without any serial port converters needed (the Winkey software generates a virtual serial port that the computer uses). 73, Andy, ae6y - Original Message - From: "Jim Brown" To: "Elecraft List" Sent: Tuesday, March 17, 2009 11:36 AM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone > On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:55:22 -0400, Greg - AB7R wrote: > >>Hi Jim. I've notice something like timing problems or part of > the >>first character being chopped when CW AND PTT are set at the same >>time. If I only set either DTR or RTS to key CW and no PTT > action >>it keys perfectly. > > Thanks, Greg. Good information. The sub-programs within N1MM and > other logging software that sends CW is one of the weakest parts > of those programs, and it doesn't take much to degrade the CW. In > general, the faster the machine and the more memory it has > available, the better the CW works. The computer in my shack is a > five year old, 1.1 GHz Thinkpad (T22) with 512MB, and it has never > had a problem with CW, even with a lot of other stuff running at > the same time. > > Another point. As code for the K3 evolves, the guys who write the > radio control elements of logging software are pedaling as fast as > they can to keep up. There are also some differences in the way > the K3 does things as compared to other radios, and the guys who > are writing the code for the loggers aren't always aware of them. > As a result, there ARE some flakinesses in that part of the > software. All of this is gradually being worked out, as Wayne and > Lyle implement more features that we ask for and tweak the way > things operate. > > One example. One thing I LOVE about the K3 is that "normal" puts > CW on the same sideband on all bands, whereas most radios use LSB > on 40M and below, USB above 40M. > > 73, > > Jim K9YC > > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
The problem may have been due to running N1MM from Parallels on a 3.0G iMac. I also notice some latency with MMTTY after it has been running awhile for RTTY when parallels shares hardware devices from the Mac. That said...it was still very usable. IMO John, K3CT is an unsung hero who gets lots of complaints and certainly not enough accolades when it comes to working on N1MM code. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Tue Mar 17 11:36 , "Jim Brown" sent: >On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:55:22 -0400, Greg - AB7R wrote: > >>Hi Jim. I've notice something like timing problems or part of >the >>first character being chopped when CW AND PTT are set at the same >>time. If I only set either DTR or RTS to key CW and no PTT >action >>it keys perfectly. > >Thanks, Greg. Good information. The sub-programs within N1MM and >other logging software that sends CW is one of the weakest parts >of those programs, and it doesn't take much to degrade the CW. In >general, the faster the machine and the more memory it has >available, the better the CW works. The computer in my shack is a >five year old, 1.1 GHz Thinkpad (T22) with 512MB, and it has never >had a problem with CW, even with a lot of other stuff running at >the same time. > >Another point. As code for the K3 evolves, the guys who write the >radio control elements of logging software are pedaling as fast as >they can to keep up. There are also some differences in the way >the K3 does things as compared to other radios, and the guys who >are writing the code for the loggers aren't always aware of them. >As a result, there ARE some flakinesses in that part of the >software. All of this is gradually being worked out, as Wayne and >Lyle implement more features that we ask for and tweak the way >things operate. > >One example. One thing I LOVE about the K3 is that "normal" puts >CW on the same sideband on all bands, whereas most radios use LSB >on 40M and below, USB above 40M. > >73, > >Jim K9YC > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')">Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 09:55:22 -0400, Greg - AB7R wrote: >Hi Jim. I've notice something like timing problems or part of the >first character being chopped when CW AND PTT are set at the same >time. If I only set either DTR or RTS to key CW and no PTT action >it keys perfectly. Thanks, Greg. Good information. The sub-programs within N1MM and other logging software that sends CW is one of the weakest parts of those programs, and it doesn't take much to degrade the CW. In general, the faster the machine and the more memory it has available, the better the CW works. The computer in my shack is a five year old, 1.1 GHz Thinkpad (T22) with 512MB, and it has never had a problem with CW, even with a lot of other stuff running at the same time. Another point. As code for the K3 evolves, the guys who write the radio control elements of logging software are pedaling as fast as they can to keep up. There are also some differences in the way the K3 does things as compared to other radios, and the guys who are writing the code for the loggers aren't always aware of them. As a result, there ARE some flakinesses in that part of the software. All of this is gradually being worked out, as Wayne and Lyle implement more features that we ask for and tweak the way things operate. One example. One thing I LOVE about the K3 is that "normal" puts CW on the same sideband on all bands, whereas most radios use LSB on 40M and below, USB above 40M. 73, Jim K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
Hi Jim. I've notice something like timing problems or part of the first character being chopped when CW AND PTT are set at the same time. If I only set either DTR or RTS to key CW and no PTT action it keys perfectly. - 73, Greg - AB7R Whidbey Island WA NA-065 On Mon Mar 16 23:00 , "Jim Brown" sent: >On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:13:03 -0400, n...@aol.com wrote: > >>I need some help from anyone who has successfully used their K3 >and >>N1mm Logger connected through the computer serial Com1 port. > >I do that a lot. It works great. > >>I select Config Ports and have the settings under the Hardware Tab >>as Always CW > >What that check means is "use this port to send CW" > >>and Don't Change Radio Mode. > >I have both of the top boxes checked. There are special reasons for >certain contests where you might want to change that. > >>Under the Hardware Tab I select K3 for Com1 > >Good. Although, if you're not sure that the port you're using is >really com1, check it out. I've had laptops that put com1 only on a >port extender and com2 on the computer itself. > >>with DTR(Pin4) and RTS(Pin7) both set to Always On as suggested by >>the N1MM information displayed. > >TILT! There's your problem. I'm assuming you want N1MM to send CW. >To do that, left click on the "Set" button for COM1, then choose CW >for DTR (pin4). To run only CW, choose Always Off for RTS (pin 7). >If you want the computer to send PTT to the radio, choose PTT for >RTS(pin7). With DTR Always On, the serial port won't send CW. With >RTS(pin7) Always On, you'll be stuck in Transmit if you set the >radio for PTT on RTS. > >Now, go to the Config Menu of the K3 (with a LONG button press for >the second menu) and go to the PTT-KEY setting. To only run CW, set >this for OFF-DTR. To run both SSB with PTT from the computer and CW >from the computer, select RTS-DTR. [This is a WONDERFUL feature >built into the K3 -- you don't need the transistor between the DTR >and the key jack, or between the RTS and PTT. The K3 takes CW >directly from pin 4 and PTT directly from pin 7 -- IF your CONFIG >setting tells it to do so. > >Now, I'll tell you what I do. On CW, I run QSK with the K3. Follow >the K3 manual to get there. If you plug a paddle into the radio you >can interchangeably use the paddle and computer keying. For SSB, >RTTY, and PSK, I use VOX, NOT PTT. For RTTY and PSK, I feed audio >from the computer sound card to the radio, and from the radio to >the computer sound card. So I don't use PTT (RTS) at all. Some guys >like to use PTT, that's your choice. I'm a serious contester, and >VOX works for me. > >BTW -- if you set N1MM to do both CW and PTT, you can still turn >off CW or PTT or both with the CONFIG setting for PTT-KEY. > >73, > >Jim Brown K9YC > > > > > >__ >Elecraft mailing list >Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft >Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm >Post: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net','','','')">Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > >This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net >Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger Configuration Rosetta Stone
On Mon, 16 Mar 2009 21:13:03 -0400, n...@aol.com wrote: >I need some help from anyone who has successfully used their K3 and >N1mm Logger connected through the computer serial Com1 port. I do that a lot. It works great. >I select Config Ports and have the settings under the Hardware Tab >as Always CW What that check means is "use this port to send CW" >and Don't Change Radio Mode. I have both of the top boxes checked. There are special reasons for certain contests where you might want to change that. >Under the Hardware Tab I select K3 for Com1 Good. Although, if you're not sure that the port you're using is really com1, check it out. I've had laptops that put com1 only on a port extender and com2 on the computer itself. >with DTR(Pin4) and RTS(Pin7) both set to Always On as suggested by >the N1MM information displayed. TILT! There's your problem. I'm assuming you want N1MM to send CW. To do that, left click on the "Set" button for COM1, then choose CW for DTR (pin4). To run only CW, choose Always Off for RTS (pin 7). If you want the computer to send PTT to the radio, choose PTT for RTS(pin7). With DTR Always On, the serial port won't send CW. With RTS(pin7) Always On, you'll be stuck in Transmit if you set the radio for PTT on RTS. Now, go to the Config Menu of the K3 (with a LONG button press for the second menu) and go to the PTT-KEY setting. To only run CW, set this for OFF-DTR. To run both SSB with PTT from the computer and CW from the computer, select RTS-DTR. [This is a WONDERFUL feature built into the K3 -- you don't need the transistor between the DTR and the key jack, or between the RTS and PTT. The K3 takes CW directly from pin 4 and PTT directly from pin 7 -- IF your CONFIG setting tells it to do so. Now, I'll tell you what I do. On CW, I run QSK with the K3. Follow the K3 manual to get there. If you plug a paddle into the radio you can interchangeably use the paddle and computer keying. For SSB, RTTY, and PSK, I use VOX, NOT PTT. For RTTY and PSK, I feed audio from the computer sound card to the radio, and from the radio to the computer sound card. So I don't use PTT (RTS) at all. Some guys like to use PTT, that's your choice. I'm a serious contester, and VOX works for me. BTW -- if you set N1MM to do both CW and PTT, you can still turn off CW or PTT or both with the CONFIG setting for PTT-KEY. 73, Jim Brown K9YC __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM (sub-rx)
Thanks that did the trick.. Allu gots to du is aks ..lol Jay -Original Message- From: Guy Olinger, K2AV [mailto:olin...@bellsouth.net] Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:13 PM To: Jay Rodaman; elecraft@mailman.qth.net Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM (sub-rx) This is an MM logger setting: Config tab on entry window: click on "Dual RX always on". - Original Message - From: "Jay Rodaman" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM (sub-rx) >I have turned on the sub-rx for diversity mode during the 160 test and find > the following. > > 1. The diversity works fine > > 2. When I click on the Q's and mults window the "sub" disengages > > > > How can I keep the diversity mode engaged when clicking on spots? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jay > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM (sub-rx)
This is an MM logger setting: Config tab on entry window: click on "Dual RX always on". - Original Message - From: "Jay Rodaman" To: Sent: Saturday, February 28, 2009 9:02 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM (sub-rx) >I have turned on the sub-rx for diversity mode during the 160 test and find > the following. > > 1. The diversity works fine > > 2. When I click on the Q's and mults window the "sub" disengages > > > > How can I keep the diversity mode engaged when clicking on spots? > > > > Thanks > > > > Jay > > __ > Elecraft mailing list > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm > Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net > Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html > __ Elecraft mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:Elecraft@mailman.qth.net This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
Yes - Original Message - From: "David Wilburn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "elecraft" Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger When doing this, are you still able to have paddles connected to the K3 to send corrections and unexpected information by hand? - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 snip ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
David: At 14:42 12/13/2007, David Wilburn wrote: When doing this, are you still able to have paddles connected to the K3 to send corrections and unexpected information by hand? YES>.. the K3 has a PADDLE input jack SEPARATE from the KEY (which would come from the external keying device). Tom N0SS - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 14:03 -0500, Van W1WCG wrote: > Paul, > > The settings you give are identical to what I'm using, however you didn't > mention setting the K3 CONFIG parameter PTT--KEY to OFF - dtr. > This will match the settings you have in N1MM logger. > > 73, Van W1WCG > K3 #42 > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:38 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger > > > >I can get N1MM to see the K3. I am switching logging software, for the > > K2 I used WriteLog. The frequency and mode show in the title bar for > > N1MM. However, I can NOT get N1MM to send CW. to the K3. I see the > > software thinking it is sending the CW (the stop light gets bright and > > then dims). > > > > I am using a serial cable connected to the only serial port on the > > computer running Windows XP. This same cable and port were able to load > > the firmware. For the N1MM configuration I have set Com1 to Elecraft K3, > > and the CW/Other box is checked. In the parameters for this port, I have > > DTR set to CW and RTS set to Always on. I have tried other combinations > > for the DTR and RTS settings and none seem to work. The CW/PTT port > > address is 3F8. > > > > I appreciate guidance from those who have made this work. > > > > 73, > > > > :) PK (Paul - K3MZ K2 #3135 K3 #84) > > ___ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
David Wilburn wrote: When doing this, are you still able to have paddles connected to the K3 to send corrections and unexpected information by hand? Yes. I have a paddle plugged into the paddle jack, a bug in the key jack, and use DTR for computer keying in contests. All of these are live. -- 73, Vic, K2VCO Fresno CA http://www.qsl.net/k2vco K3 no. 7 ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
When doing this, are you still able to have paddles connected to the K3 to send corrections and unexpected information by hand? - David Wilburn [EMAIL PROTECTED] K4DGW K2 S/N 5982 On Thu, 2007-12-13 at 14:03 -0500, Van W1WCG wrote: > Paul, > > The settings you give are identical to what I'm using, however you didn't > mention setting the K3 CONFIG parameter PTT--KEY to OFF - dtr. > This will match the settings you have in N1MM logger. > > 73, Van W1WCG > K3 #42 > > - Original Message - > From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:38 PM > Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger > > > >I can get N1MM to see the K3. I am switching logging software, for the > > K2 I used WriteLog. The frequency and mode show in the title bar for > > N1MM. However, I can NOT get N1MM to send CW. to the K3. I see the > > software thinking it is sending the CW (the stop light gets bright and > > then dims). > > > > I am using a serial cable connected to the only serial port on the > > computer running Windows XP. This same cable and port were able to load > > the firmware. For the N1MM configuration I have set Com1 to Elecraft K3, > > and the CW/Other box is checked. In the parameters for this port, I have > > DTR set to CW and RTS set to Always on. I have tried other combinations > > for the DTR and RTS settings and none seem to work. The CW/PTT port > > address is 3F8. > > > > I appreciate guidance from those who have made this work. > > > > 73, > > > > :) PK (Paul - K3MZ K2 #3135 K3 #84) > > ___ > > Elecraft mailing list > > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com > ___ > Elecraft mailing list > Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net > You must be a subscriber to post to the list. > Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): > http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft > > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm > Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
Re: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger
Paul, The settings you give are identical to what I'm using, however you didn't mention setting the K3 CONFIG parameter PTT--KEY to OFF - dtr. This will match the settings you have in N1MM logger. 73, Van W1WCG K3 #42 - Original Message - From: "Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 1:38 PM Subject: [Elecraft] K3 and N1MM Logger I can get N1MM to see the K3. I am switching logging software, for the K2 I used WriteLog. The frequency and mode show in the title bar for N1MM. However, I can NOT get N1MM to send CW. to the K3. I see the software thinking it is sending the CW (the stop light gets bright and then dims). I am using a serial cable connected to the only serial port on the computer running Windows XP. This same cable and port were able to load the firmware. For the N1MM configuration I have set Com1 to Elecraft K3, and the CW/Other box is checked. In the parameters for this port, I have DTR set to CW and RTS set to Always on. I have tried other combinations for the DTR and RTS settings and none seem to work. The CW/PTT port address is 3F8. I appreciate guidance from those who have made this work. 73, :) PK (Paul - K3MZ K2 #3135 K3 #84) ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com ___ Elecraft mailing list Post to: Elecraft@mailman.qth.net You must be a subscriber to post to the list. Subscriber Info (Addr. Change, sub, unsub etc.): http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/elecraft Help: http://mailman.qth.net/subscribers.htm Elecraft web page: http://www.elecraft.com
