RE: Prevent forward/copy/print

2003-01-17 Thread Ben Schorr
Occasionally.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com

 
 
-Original Message-
From: Ed Crowley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

But you can recall messages with Outlook!

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Technical Consultant
hp Services
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William Lefkovics
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent forward/copy/print


 
Bypassing that 'prevention' is trivial.  

No such attempt has been made in Exchange.  It would be the brunt of further
jokes.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

This feature is available in Lotus Notes (Go to "delivery option", select
"Prevent copying").  It prevent forwarding of Email and even copying the
content of the email. It works in a Lotus Note environment.
We have MS Exchange 5.5 and I was wondering if Exchange 5.5 or Exchange 2000
include this feature. Thanks.


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RE: Virus activity

2003-01-17 Thread Busby, Jacob
Epiphany is a period in the Christian calendar. I think it's January 6th.

> And speaking of viruses and holidays, has anyone else noticed 
> how Klez changes for some holidays? How else can you explain 
> messages like "Have a humour Epiphany," which only turn up in 
> early January?

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RE: Prevent forward/copy/print

2003-01-17 Thread Les Bessant
Take photographs of the screen? 

If I use my phone to do that, I can even email them to anyone.

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-Original Message-
From: Ben Schorr [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 16 January 2003 23:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent forward/copy/print


Well, without even investing 10 seconds worth of thought I can get around
that -- just print screen shots of the document.  

With 10+ seconds, and any kind of budget, I could probably do better.

-Ben-
Ben M. Schorr, MVP-Outlook, CNA, MCPx3
Director of Information Services
Damon Key Leong Kupchak Hastert
http://www.hawaiilawyer.com
>  
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: Christopher Hummert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:24 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> You have to have the full version of Adobe Acrobat. Not the Reader
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Mike Putley
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:19 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Prevent forward/copy/print
> 
> 
> How?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Mark Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Prevent forward/copy/print
> 
> 
> You must have meant PDF files. You can set the restriction of 
> not being able to print/copy/modify pdf files.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Prevent forward/copy/print
> 
> 
> I would like to disable "forward/copy/print" of an attachment 
> that I email to somebody.  In doing so, the recipient of the 
> Email will not be able to forward/copy/print the attachment.  
> This feature is available in Lotus Notes.  Does anyone know 
> if MS Exchange - MS Outlook allow you to do that. Thanks,
> 
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RE: Prevent forward/copy/print

2003-01-17 Thread William Lefkovics
 
Yes, I use the Notes folder to record certain things, so that I can
recall them later.  ;o)

William 
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Ed Crowley
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:40 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

But you can recall messages with Outlook!

Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
Technical Consultant
hp Services
"There are seldom good technological solutions to behavioral problems."


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of William
Lefkovics
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 4:20 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Prevent forward/copy/print


 
Bypassing that 'prevention' is trivial.  

No such attempt has been made in Exchange.  It would be the brunt of
further jokes.
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Jean-Claude
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

This feature is available in Lotus Notes (Go to "delivery option",
select "Prevent copying").  It prevent forwarding of Email and even
copying the content of the email. It works in a Lotus Note environment.
We have MS Exchange 5.5 and I was wondering if Exchange 5.5 or Exchange
2000 include this feature. Thanks.



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Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Niki Blowfield - Exchange
Hello

Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software package for MS
Exchange Server 5.5

Thanks in advance

Nik

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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of 
> the two rules
> is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly always
> occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is 
> copied to the
> folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from 
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
> 
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RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Let's see, in no particular order:

-NTBackup will backup remote Exchange servers, if the backup server has
Exchange Admin or the ESM tools loaded (depending on the version of
Exchange)
-Brick level backups are a waste of time and tape. Read the "Ed Crowley
Never Restore Method" in the FAQ and you'll see why. Best of all, its free

And, for the record. Brightstor IS ARCSERVE. And all you ever need to know
about that product line is available here:
http://www.clarksupport.com/whynotca.htm

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited
> 
> 
> Ed, 
> 
> Interesting suggestion, but I doubt I can backup the entire 
> server from a
> remote computer using NTBACKUP...or can I?  Also, I thought I 
> had to down
> Exchange BEFORE backing up with NTBACKUP?
> 
> I'm looking at Veritas or CAI's new Brightstor product.  
> Ideally, I want to
> backup the entire server plus backup the Exchange single 
> instance database
> as individual mailboxes (for much easier recover).
> 
> BTW, great website - thanks for the link!
> 
> I'd still like to know why IMS had begun to fail after a backup. Any
> thoughts on this.
> 
> >Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited.
> >From: Ed Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Install the Exchange Administrator (free) on the backup 
> machine and then
> >you can correctly back up Exchange from that machine using NTBACKUP.
> >Forget kludgy brick backups:
> >http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
> >
> >Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> 
> >>Can someone please (politely) suggest reasons why port 25 
> fails after
> >>backing up the message stores.  To fix this, I must stop 
> and restart the
> >>services again, however, sometimes even that doesn't work 
> until I delete
> >>the contents of the imcdata\OUT folder (always filled with 
> undeliverable
> >>messages as a result of SPAM).  Please note, this problem only began
> >>about a month ago and the following batch file has worked 
> successfully
> >>for over 1 year.
> >>
> >>rem *** Stop appropriate services in order...
> >>net stop MSExchangeIMC
> >>net stop MSExchangeMSMI
> >>net stop MSExchangeMTA
> >>net stop MSExchangeIS
> >>net stop MSExchangeDS
> >>net stop MSExchangeSA
> >>rem
> >>rem *** Backup commands
> >>
> >>copy c:\exchsrvr\dsadata\dir.edb f:\secure\backup\dir_b.edb 
> >>copy d:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv.edb f:\secure\backup\priv_b.edb copy
> >>d:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\pub.edb f:\secure\backup\pub_b.edb rem 
> pause rem rem
> >>*** Start appropriate services in order... rem net start 
> MSExchangeSA
> >>net start MSExchangeDS net start MSExchangeIS net start 
> MSExchangeMTA
> >>net start MSExchangeMSMI net start MSExchangeIMC exit 
> >>
> >>Yes, I know... not an ideal way of backup up 5Gb's worth of message
> >>stores but it does the job when your company didn't have 
> the funds for
> >>another tape backup unit and software.
> >>
> >>Now I have a more appropriate budget and I just purchased a 
> new Sony AIT
> >>backup drive.  Now I require software that will backup Exchange 5.5
> >> (brick level preferred) from another computer (i.e. I do 
> not wish to
> >>install tape drive on Exchange Server). 
> >>
> >>Which product(s) are recommended?
> -
> Shawn Connelly, Network Engineer.  Dipix Technologies Inc.   
> 613-596-4942 x177  or dial extension 0 to page me. 
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Oh, and your issue with the IMS dying is the fact you're not doing an
Exchange aware backup, and something is munging a file in your IMC directory
while the service is shut down.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Shawn Connelly [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:22 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited
> 
> 
> Ed, 
> 
> Interesting suggestion, but I doubt I can backup the entire 
> server from a
> remote computer using NTBACKUP...or can I?  Also, I thought I 
> had to down
> Exchange BEFORE backing up with NTBACKUP?
> 
> I'm looking at Veritas or CAI's new Brightstor product.  
> Ideally, I want to
> backup the entire server plus backup the Exchange single 
> instance database
> as individual mailboxes (for much easier recover).
> 
> BTW, great website - thanks for the link!
> 
> I'd still like to know why IMS had begun to fail after a backup. Any
> thoughts on this.
> 
> >Subject: RE: Exchange 5.5 IMS (port 25) fails - revisited.
> >From: Ed Crowley <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >
> >Install the Exchange Administrator (free) on the backup 
> machine and then
> >you can correctly back up Exchange from that machine using NTBACKUP.
> >Forget kludgy brick backups:
> >http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_appxb.htm
> >
> >Ed Crowley MCSE+I MVP
> 
> >>Can someone please (politely) suggest reasons why port 25 
> fails after
> >>backing up the message stores.  To fix this, I must stop 
> and restart the
> >>services again, however, sometimes even that doesn't work 
> until I delete
> >>the contents of the imcdata\OUT folder (always filled with 
> undeliverable
> >>messages as a result of SPAM).  Please note, this problem only began
> >>about a month ago and the following batch file has worked 
> successfully
> >>for over 1 year.
> >>
> >>rem *** Stop appropriate services in order...
> >>net stop MSExchangeIMC
> >>net stop MSExchangeMSMI
> >>net stop MSExchangeMTA
> >>net stop MSExchangeIS
> >>net stop MSExchangeDS
> >>net stop MSExchangeSA
> >>rem
> >>rem *** Backup commands
> >>
> >>copy c:\exchsrvr\dsadata\dir.edb f:\secure\backup\dir_b.edb 
> >>copy d:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\priv.edb f:\secure\backup\priv_b.edb copy
> >>d:\exchsrvr\mdbdata\pub.edb f:\secure\backup\pub_b.edb rem 
> pause rem rem
> >>*** Start appropriate services in order... rem net start 
> MSExchangeSA
> >>net start MSExchangeDS net start MSExchangeIS net start 
> MSExchangeMTA
> >>net start MSExchangeMSMI net start MSExchangeIMC exit 
> >>
> >>Yes, I know... not an ideal way of backup up 5Gb's worth of message
> >>stores but it does the job when your company didn't have 
> the funds for
> >>another tape backup unit and software.
> >>
> >>Now I have a more appropriate budget and I just purchased a 
> new Sony AIT
> >>backup drive.  Now I require software that will backup Exchange 5.5
> >> (brick level preferred) from another computer (i.e. I do 
> not wish to
> >>install tape drive on Exchange Server). 
> >>
> >>Which product(s) are recommended?
> -
> Shawn Connelly, Network Engineer.  Dipix Technologies Inc.   
> 613-596-4942 x177  or dial extension 0 to page me. 
> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
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RE: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Jeffrey Dubyn
Therein lies my problem - this has been happening from this domain to a
number of different domains.  Since the "from" domain is my customer, I
am "them" (coocookuchoo - bastardized from John Lennon) who has to track
this.  I have Trend involved with this, but did not hear back from my
email or phone call yesterday.   If anyone has any ideas, it would be
appreciated.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery


Your servers didn't receive the message til today, so where it was hung
up before is something for them to track... Are you having problems with
delayed messages from other domains?

On 1/16/03 21:34, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on between 12/6/02 
and 1/16/03?  The Thanks! 


Received: from amcgate (192.10.10.1 [192.10.10.1]) by 
MyExchange.amccorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail 
Service Version 5.5.2653.13) 
id CFQ2NAR0; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:16:23 -0500 
Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate; 
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST) 
Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail 
VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500 
content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
Subject: E-mail 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1" 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0500 
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 
Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]

m> 
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
Thread-Topic: E-mail 
Thread-Index: AcKdY4D/RSB6DLfzTSWMDvGfHMg++g== 
From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 



-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 


Look at the headers of the message. 

On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
1/16. 

They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend InterScan Virus


Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could have bounced 
around so long. 

Any ideas? 


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RE: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High

2003-01-17 Thread Woodruff, Michael
Yeah something is going on.  I did a compare and the MTA deferred
delivery queue is emtpy and the IS send queue is still at 54.

-Original Message-
From: Coleman, Hunter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 11:16 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High


You might want to check the MSExchangeMTA\Deferred Delivery Queue
against the MSExchangeIS Private\Send Queue to see if those match up.

Hunter

-Original Message-
From: Woodruff, Michael [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:45 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High


No, email is being delivered fine.  I'll follow up on that tool.  Thanks
Chris.

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:42 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High


Are users reporting missing or delayed mail? I think PSS might have a
tool or two to enumerate these messages.

On 1/16/03 6:36, "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



OK, I thought that might have been the issue, but I'm now at 55.  I 
don't think our users use this option much so I am kind of curious to 
why its still showing a buildup.  What other options do I have to find 
out what is in this queue? 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 3:05 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High 


I thought that might be it, but I'm a bit sluggish this morning (all 
that perfmon testing starts to run together after a while as well). 

On 1/13/03 11:48, "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Why yes it does   So I guess I am looking at deferred messages then.


Thanks Chris.  

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2003 12:32 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: MSExchange IS Mailbox Send Queue Size High 


My mind is running 2 cups of coffee short this morning, but if you send 
a message with a deferred delivery time, does the queue increase to 46? 

On 1/13/03 10:31, "Woodruff, Michael" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Exchange 2k SP3... 

I was just looking at Perfmon and noticed the queue is steady at 45 and 
has remained there.  I don't have any other high traffic going on right 
now.  All other queues are low.  Any idea why it is high?  Thanks. 



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RE: Mover Server Wizard

2003-01-17 Thread Mike Lagase
What is everyone using for automating the recreation of Outlook
profiles? I have found Autoprof that appears to the job, but wanted to
get any input as to what experience others have had using this tool.

Thanks,

Mike Lagase

-Original Message-
From: Mike Lagase 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:52 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mover Server Wizard


After the Move server wizard has been run to move a server in to another
site and Org, all users need to update their Outlook profile to login
correctly under the new DN. My question is whether there is a utility of
some sort that will automate this procedure to make this seemless for
over 1000 users or is this a manual process.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Mike Lagase

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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Tom Meunier
Probably not, no.  But if you're willing to set up a second box, there
are lots of linux ones, or you could use mercury32 for Win32 OS's.  
http://www.pmail.com/whatsnew/new_m32.htm

http://www.slipstick.com/exs/lists.htm

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Free Mailing List Software
Subject: Free Mailing List Software
Sensitivity: Private


Hello

Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software package for MS
Exchange Server 5.5

Thanks in advance

Nik

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RE: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Wasn't Coocookuchoo from Simon and Garfunkel?

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: (Very) Delayed delivery
> 
> 
> Therein lies my problem - this has been happening from this 
> domain to a
> number of different domains.  Since the "from" domain is my 
> customer, I
> am "them" (coocookuchoo - bastardized from John Lennon) who 
> has to track
> this.  I have Trend involved with this, but did not hear back from my
> email or phone call yesterday.   If anyone has any ideas, it would be
> appreciated.  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Scharff
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:41 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery
> 
> 
> Your servers didn't receive the message til today, so where 
> it was hung
> up before is something for them to track... Are you having 
> problems with
> delayed messages from other domains?
> 
> On 1/16/03 21:34, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on 
> between 12/6/02 
> and 1/16/03?  The Thanks! 
> 
> 
> Received: from amcgate (192.10.10.1 [192.10.10.1]) by 
> MyExchange.amccorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail 
> Service Version 5.5.2653.13) 
> id CFQ2NAR0; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:16:23 -0500 
> Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate; 
> Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST) 
> Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail 
> VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500 
> content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
> Subject: E-mail 
> MIME-Version: 1.0 
> Content-Type: text/plain; 
> charset="iso-8859-1" 
> Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
> Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0500 
> X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 
> Message-ID: 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> rdomain.co
> 
> m> 
> X-MS-Has-Attach: 
> X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
> Thread-Topic: E-mail 
> Thread-Index: AcKdY4D/RSB6DLfzTSWMDvGfHMg++g== 
> From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Chris Scharff 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 
> 
> 
> Look at the headers of the message. 
> 
> On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
> emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
> 1/16. 
> 
> They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend 
> InterScan Virus
> 
> 
> Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
> correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could 
> have bounced 
> around so long. 
> 
> Any ideas? 
> 
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Re: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
Nope. I am the Walrus. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Roger Seielstad" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: RE: (Very) Delayed delivery


> Wasn't Coocookuchoo from Simon and Garfunkel?
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:31 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: (Very) Delayed delivery
> > 
> > 
> > Therein lies my problem - this has been happening from this 
> > domain to a
> > number of different domains.  Since the "from" domain is my 
> > customer, I
> > am "them" (coocookuchoo - bastardized from John Lennon) who 
> > has to track
> > this.  I have Trend involved with this, but did not hear back from my
> > email or phone call yesterday.   If anyone has any ideas, it would be
> > appreciated.  
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > Chris Scharff
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:41 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery
> > 
> > 
> > Your servers didn't receive the message til today, so where 
> > it was hung
> > up before is something for them to track... Are you having 
> > problems with
> > delayed messages from other domains?
> > 
> > On 1/16/03 21:34, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on 
> > between 12/6/02 
> > and 1/16/03?  The Thanks! 
> > 
> > 
> > Received: from amcgate (192.10.10.1 [192.10.10.1]) by 
> > MyExchange.amccorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail 
> > Service Version 5.5.2653.13) 
> > id CFQ2NAR0; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:16:23 -0500 
> > Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate; 
> > Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST) 
> > Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail 
> > VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500 
> > content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
> > Subject: E-mail 
> > MIME-Version: 1.0 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; 
> > charset="iso-8859-1" 
> > Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
> > Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0500 
> > X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 
> > Message-ID: 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > rdomain.co
> > 
> > m> 
> > X-MS-Has-Attach: 
> > X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
> > Thread-Topic: E-mail 
> > Thread-Index: AcKdY4D/RSB6DLfzTSWMDvGfHMg++g== 
> > From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> > Chris Scharff 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 
> > 
> > 
> > Look at the headers of the message. 
> > 
> > On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
> > emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
> > 1/16. 
> > 
> > They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend 
> > InterScan Virus
> > 
> > 
> > Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
> > correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could 
> > have bounced 
> > around so long. 
> > 
> > Any ideas? 
> > 
> > 
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Contacts

2003-01-17 Thread Milt Atkinson
Is there a way to export a distribution list from your Contacts Folder to a 
CSV or XLS file? ... Using the Import/Export utility of Outlook 2002 only 
captures single contacts and not distribution lists within the Contacts 
Folder.

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Re: Contacts

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
You mean a Personal DL?  I would check on slipstick.com for utilities or
code.

- Original Message -
From: "Milt Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Contacts


> Is there a way to export a distribution list from your Contacts Folder to
a
> CSV or XLS file? ... Using the Import/Export utility of Outlook 2002 only
> captures single contacts and not distribution lists within the Contacts
> Folder.
>
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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Hansen, Eric
Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey
Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a
requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not.
So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate
screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus
giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It
was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels
unlimited.
It was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to
come close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do
some of the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good
thing.  A Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM
BIOS,
or write directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip
bits
on the NIC and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this
across multiple machines and even retrieve the values of any address
using a
pair of linked macros.  You could write a help center program, complete
with
take over or merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s
doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours



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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Roger,
I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not 
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and 
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches 
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to 
> the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Schwartz, Jim
That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
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macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

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RE: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Doug Kassay
I would recommend capturing your network data at the time the email should
have been sent.  This will show you:

1. If your mail server sent (or attempted to send) the mail.
2. The response from the other server.
3. If your mail server never sent the mail when it should have.

I have used a freeware product called ethereal (www.ethereal.com) to help me
solve quite a few problems of this nature.  Good luck

Doug

-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: (Very) Delayed delivery

Therein lies my problem - this has been happening from this domain to a
number of different domains.  Since the "from" domain is my customer, I
am "them" (coocookuchoo - bastardized from John Lennon) who has to track
this.  I have Trend involved with this, but did not hear back from my
email or phone call yesterday.   If anyone has any ideas, it would be
appreciated.  

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery


Your servers didn't receive the message til today, so where it was hung
up before is something for them to track... Are you having problems with
delayed messages from other domains?

On 1/16/03 21:34, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on between 12/6/02 
and 1/16/03?  The Thanks! 


Received: from amcgate (192.10.10.1 [192.10.10.1]) by 
MyExchange.amccorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail 
Service Version 5.5.2653.13) 
id CFQ2NAR0; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:16:23 -0500 
Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate; 
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST) 
Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail 
VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500 
content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
Subject: E-mail 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1" 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0500 
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 
Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]

m> 
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
Thread-Topic: E-mail 
Thread-Index: AcKdY4D/RSB6DLfzTSWMDvGfHMg++g== 
From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 



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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 


Look at the headers of the message. 

On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
1/16. 

They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend InterScan Virus


Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could have bounced 
around so long. 

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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Hansen, Eric
EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
everyone wants one but not yours



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Re: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
quack

- Original Message -
From: "Hansen, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Everyone?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Hansen, Eric
Aflack!

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:22 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: The SEC is killing me.

quack

- Original Message -
From: "Hansen, Eric" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:19 AM
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Everyone?


-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

Standards are like toothbrushes,
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Stephen Grant
Damien,

  I have the same issue with a few of my rules in a Outlook 2000/ Exchange 2000 setup. 
 I've done everything I can think of, scoured the internet for an answer, but so far 
it is unsolved.

Steve

> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Roger,
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
> Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
> assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
> seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a 
> copy of the
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not 
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the 
> message and 
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> > move message
> > rules?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Damian
> > --
> > --
> > ---
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches 
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is 
> copied to 
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> > the Inbox. 
> > I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> > done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> > Exchange 2000
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Daniel Chenault
Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this.

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Free Mailing List Software
Sensitivity: Private


Hello

Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software package for MS
Exchange Server 5.5

Thanks in advance

Nik

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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Schwartz, Jim
So am I.
Doesn't mean he's not wrong, just that he's got a title.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Hansen, Eric
So far hes bullet proof, every challenge to his proposals is met with "this
is the direction the company is moving"

Got any job opening for a 2nd rate net admin with a kick for learning things
quickly?  :p

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

So am I.
Doesn't mean he's not wrong, just that he's got a title.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


EXACTLY!

Unfortunately he is also a Assistant VP

-Original Message-
From: Schwartz, Jim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:09 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

That's because your security guy doesn't have to support the desktops or pay
for training users in a new OS. Tell him to cut down on the Kool-Aide. If he
thinks linux is secure then you need to find another security guy.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not. So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited. It
was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come
close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of
the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A
Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write
directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC
and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this across multiple
machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a pair of linked
macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with take over or
merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

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Re: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
Nope.

On 1/17/03 5:10, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Hello 

Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software package for MS 
Exchange Server 5.5 



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Re: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
Sorry, you'll need to look at the logs of their mail server to see when it
transferred to the intermediary box and then troubleshoot the issue from
there.

On 1/17/03 6:30, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Therein lies my problem - this has been happening from this domain to a 
number of different domains.  Since the "from" domain is my customer, I 
am "them" (coocookuchoo - bastardized from John Lennon) who has to track 
this.  I have Trend involved with this, but did not hear back from my 
email or phone call yesterday.   If anyone has any ideas, it would be 
appreciated.  

-Original Message- 
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:41 PM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 


Your servers didn't receive the message til today, so where it was hung 
up before is something for them to track... Are you having problems with 
delayed messages from other domains? 

On 1/16/03 21:34, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on between 12/6/02 
and 1/16/03?  The Thanks! 


Received: from amcgate (192.10.10.1 [192.10.10.1]) by 
MyExchange.amccorp.com with SMTP (Microsoft Exchange Internet Mail 
Service Version 5.5.2653.13) 
id CFQ2NAR0; Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:16:23 -0500 
Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate; 
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST) 
Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail 
VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500 
content-class: urn:content-classes:message 
Subject: E-mail 
MIME-Version: 1.0 
Content-Type: text/plain; 
charset="iso-8859-1" 
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable 
Date: Fri, 6 Dec 2002 15:10:20 -0500 
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft Exchange V6.0.6249.0 
Message-ID: 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

m> 
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: 
Thread-Topic: E-mail 
Thread-Index: AcKdY4D/RSB6DLfzTSWMDvGfHMg++g== 
From: "User" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, 



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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery 


Look at the headers of the message. 

On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
1/16. 

They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend InterScan Virus 


Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could have bounced 
around so long. 

Any ideas? 


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Re: Mover Server Wizard

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
I use a small Canadian named Pierre. Autoprof works too.

On 1/17/03 7:06, "Mike Lagase" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



What is everyone using for automating the recreation of Outlook 
profiles? I have found Autoprof that appears to the job, but wanted to 
get any input as to what experience others have had using this tool. 

Thanks, 

Mike Lagase 

-Original Message- 
From: Mike Lagase 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:52 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Mover Server Wizard 


After the Move server wizard has been run to move a server in to another 
site and Org, all users need to update their Outlook profile to login 
correctly under the new DN. My question is whether there is a utility of 
some sort that will automate this procedure to make this seemless for 
over 1000 users or is this a manual process. 

Any information would be greatly appreciated. 

Mike Lagase 

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Re: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
What, you wanted to give away software that was free?

On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this. 

-Original Message- 
From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
Sensitivity: Private 


Hello 

Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software package for MS 
Exchange Server 5.5 

Thanks in advance 

Nik 

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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Tom Meunier
He's a moron.  Operating systems aren't secure.  Secured deployments of operating 
systems are.  Which would be the job of oh, say, a security guy.  Tell him to quit 
waving his magic wand, take off the pointy hat, and do his job.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:06 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: The SEC is killing me.
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both Smartware and 
Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement to make the database in 
3.3 do something that in theory it could not.
So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens that 
looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving the illusion 
that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was really quick and easy 
to do, since any command could be linked back to itself, and module linking 
effectively made the nesting levels unlimited.
It was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to come close to 
it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do some of the things that 
Smartware II could do, which is probably a good thing.  A Smartware II program could 
rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS, or write directly to things like the disk 
controller's controls, flip bits on the NIC and so on.  In a Netware environment it 
could do all of this across multiple machines and even retrieve the values of any 
address using a pair of linked macros.  You could write a help center program, 
complete with take over or merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a bit), like 
that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing macros work. Loved it 
for that.

Cheers

Paul

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Re: Exchange 5.5 sp3, OWA IIS5 and windows 2000

2003-01-17 Thread Bob Petra
I already searched at many places. Microsoft comes with one article which
seemed to be the solution. That is: deleting an object from the
transaction server. Windows 2000 places these objects in the component
services, aldo the right object to delete wasn't there.

Regards,


Bob

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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Niki Blowfield - Exchange
Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have had enough of
yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an automated mailing
list on MS Exchange for nowt

Nik


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software
> 
> 
> What, you wanted to give away software that was free?
> 
> On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> Sensitivity: Private 
> 
> 
> Hello 
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software 
> package for MS 
> Exchange Server 5.5 
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Nik 
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RE: The SEC is killing me.

2003-01-17 Thread Hansen, Eric
I would fall on the ground laughing if I could just tell him that.

-Original Message-
From: Tom Meunier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 7:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

He's a moron.  Operating systems aren't secure.  Secured deployments of
operating systems are.  Which would be the job of oh, say, a security guy.
Tell him to quit waving his magic wand, take off the pointy hat, and do his
job.

-Original Message-
From: Hansen, Eric [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:06 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: The SEC is killing me.
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Our security guy does.  He wants to put linux on every desktop.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:53 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.

 
Everyone?
 
 
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Andrey Fyodorov
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Did it have any security?

And everyone says Microsoft has too many holes

-Original Message-
From: Dupler, Craig [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:36 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Me too.  It was an amazing tool.  I did a lot of programming in both
Smartware and Smartware II as well.  I remember one time I had a requirement
to make the database in 3.3 do something that in theory it could not.
So I
used the macro language to write the code from scratch and generate screens
that looked like Smart itself including the menus and commands , thus giving
the illusion that Smart had suddenly gotten some new functionality.  It was
really quick and easy to do, since any command could be linked back to
itself, and module linking effectively made the nesting levels unlimited.
It was an amazingly powerful environment.  Office didn't really begin to
come close to it until Office 95, but even the XP version still can't do
some of the things that Smartware II could do, which is probably a good
thing.  A Smartware II program could rewrite the contents of the ROM BIOS,
or write directly to things like the disk controller's controls, flip bits
on the NIC and so on.  In a Netware environment it could do all of this
across multiple machines and even retrieve the values of any address using a
pair of linked macros.  You could write a help center program, complete with
take over or merely screen replication tools.  It was bad.

-Original Message-
From: Hurst, Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:49 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: The SEC is killing me.


Craig,

You remembered Smartware and Smartware II (or was that Smartware plus a
bit), like that product as it was one of the first. Earned me £££'s doing
macros work. Loved it for that.

Cheers

Paul

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Exchange alias naming

2003-01-17 Thread Bendall, Paul
Exchange 5.5

I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this
simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes
it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one
of my clients has a different naming convention in the form "firstname
lastname" which they want to use. My question is what do other people
standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any
more weight to my argument.

TIA,

Paul


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Re: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange, none of them
are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry.


On 1/17/03 8:55, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have had enough of 
yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an automated mailing 
list on MS Exchange for nowt 

Nik 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> 
> 
> What, you wanted to give away software that was free? 
> 
> On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this. 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> Sensitivity: Private 
> 
> 
> Hello 
> 
> Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software 
> package for MS 
> Exchange Server 5.5 
> 
> Thanks in advance 
> 
> Nik 
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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Niki Blowfield - Exchange
Ok thanks, guess we'll have to put up with the adverts and 'web beacons'


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 14:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software
> 
> 
> There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange, 
> none of them are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry.
> 
> 
> On 1/17/03 8:55, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have 
> had enough of 
> yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an 
> automated mailing 
> list on MS Exchange for nowt 
> 
> Nik 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > 
> > 
> > What, you wanted to give away software that was free?
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this.
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> > Sensitivity: Private 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software
> > package for MS 
> > Exchange Server 5.5 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance
> > 
> > Nik
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Re: Exchange alias naming

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
The proper format for POP3 or IMAP usernames is domain/NT_ID/Mailbox_Alias.
That's the format I use all the time, every time[1] so it doesn't matter to
in the least what the format is, as long as it minimizes the potential
ambiguity associated with logon IDs. I also never use Exchange for NNTP, as
I'd rather listen to a technical discussion by Tener than use Exchange for
that.

However, mailbox alias is about as close to a meaningless attribute as one
can find in Exchange, so I'm not sure why it matters or why the customer
would even notice or care. How would such a thing even come up in
conversation?

[1] In fact that's the format specified in my entourage profile even as I
type.

On 1/17/03 8:57, "Bendall, Paul" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Exchange 5.5 

I have always made my Exchange mailbox alias the same as the NT user ID this

simplifies the authentication process for POP3, IMAP and NNTP and it makes 
it easy to rollout Outlook through an intellimirror mst file. However, one 
of my clients has a different naming convention in the form "firstname 
lastname" which they want to use. My question is what do other people 
standardise on for the naming convention of the alias and can you add any 
more weight to my argument. 



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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Tom Meunier
Have I mentioned Mercury32?  Oh wait, yes I have.  I guess web beacons
and adverts are preferable?

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:09 AM
Posted To: MSExchange Mailing List
Conversation: Free Mailing List Software
Subject: RE: Free Mailing List Software


Ok thanks, guess we'll have to put up with the adverts and 'web beacons'


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 17 January 2003 14:58
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software
> 
> 
> There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange, none of 
> them are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry.

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Re: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
Putting up with those is what gets you 'free' lists right?

On 1/17/03 9:08, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:



Ok thanks, guess we'll have to put up with the adverts and 'web beacons' 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 14:58 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> 
> 
> There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange, 
> none of them are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry. 
> 
> 
> On 1/17/03 8:55, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have 
> had enough of 
> yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an 
> automated mailing 
> list on MS Exchange for nowt 
> 
> Nik 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > 
> > 
> > What, you wanted to give away software that was free? 
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this. 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> > Sensitivity: Private 
> > 
> > 
> > Hello 
> > 
> > Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software 
> > package for MS 
> > Exchange Server 5.5 
> > 
> > Thanks in advance 
> > 
> > Nik 
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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Niki Blowfield - Exchange
I guess so, wouldn't be too bad if you didn't get replies 3 hours before you
get the original :)


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 15:24
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software
> 
> 
> Putting up with those is what gets you 'free' lists right?
> 
> On 1/17/03 9:08, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Ok thanks, guess we'll have to put up with the adverts and 
> 'web beacons' 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:58 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > 
> > 
> > There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange,
> > none of them are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 8:55, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have
> > had enough of 
> > yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an 
> > automated mailing 
> > list on MS Exchange for nowt 
> > 
> > Nik
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44 
> > > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What, you wanted to give away software that was free?
> > > 
> > > On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > > Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> > > Sensitivity: Private 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software
> > > package for MS 
> > > Exchange Server 5.5 
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > 
> > > Nik
> > > 
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NTbackup hardware compression ?

2003-01-17 Thread Jim Helfer

 I was wondering if hardware compression is generally effective when doing
an Exchange-aware NTbackup backup, or if the databases are already
compressed?

  I have a 12GB capacity DDS3 tape drive that I use to do on-line backups of
my Exchange server. I have made sure that I am either using the command line
switch /hc:on, or checking "hardware compression" in the NTbackup screeen.

  However, since my Priv.Edb creeped up to >12 Gig, the backup spans two
tapes. 

  Could there be something I'm doing incorrectly, or is it time to get a
bigger tape drive, or an Exchange backup program that understands tape
loaders, or just deal with the additional pain of tape flipping?

 Thanks for any info


 Jim Helfer
WTW Architects
Pittsburgh PA
Go Stillers ! (next year)

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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook
2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Roger,
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
> Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
> assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
> seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a 
> copy of the
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not 
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the 
> message and 
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> > move message
> > rules?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Damian
> > --
> > --
> > ---
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches 
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is 
> copied to 
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> > the Inbox. 
> > I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> > done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> > Exchange 2000
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks
> > 
> > Damian
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copy of message in outbox (variation on a theme)

2003-01-17 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
exchange 5.5, client outlook 98,2000 (mapi, NOT pop3).

User sends "pre-made" message, it looks like the copy that is supposed
to go to sent items winds up in the outbox.

User clicks send, message is received by recipient, but seems to be
stranded in the outbox.  I caught one in action and looked - it's not a
message waiting to be sent (and it does not prevent other mail from
sending - nor does it go away if you send another message).  When I
opened the stranded message, it doesn't have the "send again" button.
There *also* is not a copy of the message in sent items.

I have only seen it on one user so far, but have reports of other users.

Any ideas?

TIA

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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Roger,
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not
make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's
products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in
Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback
I'd like to hear it. Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook
2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Roger,
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> copy of the
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> > move message
> > rules?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Damian
> > --
> > --
> > ---
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if
> it matches
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is
> copied to
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the

> > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine 
> > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> > Exchange 2000
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
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RE: NTbackup hardware compression ?

2003-01-17 Thread Aaron Brasslett
I used to back up a 17GB+ Priv on a DDS3 tape drive without spanning tapes.
Something must be wrong with either the tape HW or the driver you are using.

Aaron

-Original Message-
From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: NTbackup hardware compression ?



 I was wondering if hardware compression is generally effective when doing
an Exchange-aware NTbackup backup, or if the databases are already
compressed?

  I have a 12GB capacity DDS3 tape drive that I use to do on-line backups of
my Exchange server. I have made sure that I am either using the command line
switch /hc:on, or checking "hardware compression" in the NTbackup screeen.

  However, since my Priv.Edb creeped up to >12 Gig, the backup spans two
tapes. 

  Could there be something I'm doing incorrectly, or is it time to get a
bigger tape drive, or an Exchange backup program that understands tape
loaders, or just deal with the additional pain of tape flipping?

 Thanks for any info


 Jim Helfer
WTW Architects
Pittsburgh PA
Go Stillers ! (next year)

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Re: NTbackup hardware compression ?

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
Does the tape drive support it?
- Original Message -
From: "Jim Helfer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:05 AM
Subject: NTbackup hardware compression ?


>
>  I was wondering if hardware compression is generally effective when doing
> an Exchange-aware NTbackup backup, or if the databases are already
> compressed?
>
>   I have a 12GB capacity DDS3 tape drive that I use to do on-line backups
of
> my Exchange server. I have made sure that I am either using the command
line
> switch /hc:on, or checking "hardware compression" in the NTbackup screeen.
>
>   However, since my Priv.Edb creeped up to >12 Gig, the backup spans two
> tapes.
>
>   Could there be something I'm doing incorrectly, or is it time to get a
> bigger tape drive, or an Exchange backup program that understands tape
> loaders, or just deal with the additional pain of tape flipping?
>
>  Thanks for any info
>
>
>  Jim Helfer
> WTW Architects
> Pittsburgh PA
> Go Stillers ! (next year)
>
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Re: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules did
you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not 
make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's 
products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in 
Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback 
I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 
2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. 
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a 
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> -- 
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not 
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the 
> message and 
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message 
> > rules?  Thanks. 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > -- 
> > -- 
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches 
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is 
> copied to 
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the 

> > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine 
> > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: 
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) 
> > Exchange 2000 
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > 
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Exporting Public Folders to PSTs

2003-01-17 Thread Karon Miller
I've got Exchange 5.5 and Outlook 98 and I've exported and imported Public
Folders to PSTs many times.  However, I'm trying to export some Public
Folders now so that we can retire them to tape and remove them from the
system and I'm getting the following error:

"Some items could not be copied.  They were either moved or deleted, or
access was denied."

I've searched MS and all I find is an article that tell me to stop theh
Anti-Virus software on the server I did and it didn't help.  Another
one about adding the Microsoft Mail service to my client ... didn't try
this.  Another one about copying a new store.exe to the server I can't do
this at this time.  And, one about a size limit of 2 GB ... these are only
about 60 MB in size each.

Would it have anything to do with the fact that when I'm on this
particular Exchange server that the Public Folders are stored and I'm in
the Exchange Administrator and I click on Public Folders I get a Dr.
Watson and the Administrator shuts down.  But, I can open the
Administrator program on my PC.  Could my pub.edb be corrupt?  Is there a
way to move these particular Public Folders to another server?

Any help or suggestions would be awesome.

Thanks,
Karon Miller
Systems Admin
BSPMLAW

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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
Get a copy of cleansweep from the resource kit, install it, blow away your
rules and recreate them. If that doesn't work, rebuild your Outlook profile.

Otherwise, if you're absolutely sure it's a bug, call PSS and prove it to
them, not us. The fact that its not reproduceable by others lends credence
to it not being a bug, rather it's something specific to either your
machine, your account, or a combination of the two.

My use of computers predates Microsoft. I've also worked in tech support for
a software company. At this point, neither of those matter. What does matter
is that at this point you haven't done anything to prove to us it's a bug.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Roger,
>   Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the
> EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the 
> email.  Not
> make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever
> seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using 
> Microsoft's
> products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said 
> before And it's
> definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these 
> rules before in
> Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more 
> constructive feedback
> I'd like to hear it. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, 
> in Outlook
> 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > Roger,
> > I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
> Either 
> > way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I 
> am assuming 
> > that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as 
> everyone seems to 
> > think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> > copy of the
> > message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> > Atlanta, GA
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules 
> wizard to
> > > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is 
> for another 
> > > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I 
> noticed that the 
> > > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> > does not
> > > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> > message and
> > > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> > > move message
> > > rules?  Thanks.
> > > 
> > > Damian
> > > --
> > > --
> > > ---
> > > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if
> > it matches
> > > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is
> > copied to
> > > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the 
> original from the
> 
> > > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine 
> > > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> > > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> > > Exchange 2000
> > > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > > it happens. 
> > > Am I missing something? Thanks
> > > 
> > > Damian
> > > 
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Chris,
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
scratch and this fails also.

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of
luck I guess.  Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules
did you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message 
> > rules?  Thanks. 
> > 
> > Damian
> > -- 
> > -- 
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is
> copied to
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the

> > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine 
> > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: 
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) 
> > Exchange 2000 
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > 
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Slinger, Gary
Roger posted a perfectly valid solution approach - have you tried that, or
are you so blinded by your presumption that you've found a bug?

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Chris,
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
scratch and this fails also.

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of luck I
guess.  Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules did
you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of 
> the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message rules?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Damian
> > --
> > -- 
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is
> copied to
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the

> > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine
> > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: 
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) 
> > Exchange 2000 
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Slinger, Gary
"I can't get rules after it to work." - well, that is kinda the point of
that particular rule option.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 16:54
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Tried this and it makes things worse, I can't get rules after it to work.
Here is something else that is interesting.  I tried to create a dummy rule
in front of it to filter fake messages, but it does not aleviate the
situation. Anyways, I have to assume this is a bug with Outlook 2002.  I did
not find anything on Microsofts web page yet. Thanks anyways.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Durkee, Peter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 3:31 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


You might try adding "and stop processing more rules" to the end of your
rules.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 10:53
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Rules Wizard Issue


I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches certain
criteria in the recipient address.  The messages is copied to the folder in
the rule, but it does not remove the original from the Inbox. 
I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've done
wrong.  Here is what I have on my PC:

Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
Exchange 2000

The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when it happens. 
Am I missing something?  Thanks

Damian

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EXE Outlook Forms

2003-01-17 Thread Uso
Hi,
we are using an Exchange integrated Fax solution and it is using EXE files
for the custom forms.
We blocked with our AV (Symantec) the transfer of EXE,COM. VBS ... files.
The vendor says that's the way there forms are and we basically have to live
with it.
I would like to know if it is commopn practice to make Outlooks Forms with
EXE extensions and what other options would be. I belive they did EXE files
because they wanted to protect the source code. The forms themselves are
standard and don't contain any weired functionality.

Would appreciate your feedback

regards
uso



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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Here is my issue, the laptop is brand new, the install of Outlook 2002
is brand new, the rules created were brand new on a new profile.  This
is why I say it is a bug.  No I am not so 'blinded' by my presumption
that it is a bug to try other peoples ideas. That is why I wrote here.
After seeing the behavior of the rules wizard it just seemed so weird on
a machine that has never been used before  Just my opinion. 

Roger,
 I will see what I can do about getting Cleensweep and go form there


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger posted a perfectly valid solution approach - have you tried that,
or are you so blinded by your presumption that you've found a bug?

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Chris,
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
scratch and this fails also.

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of
luck I guess.  Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules
did you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of
> the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message rules?  Thanks.
> > 
> > Damian
> > --
> > --
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is
> copied to
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the

> > Inbox. I've done these rules 

RE: EXE Outlook Forms

2003-01-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
2 cents..Sounds like you are using Faxination.
I ran into the same thing... I was running NAI 4.5 on the exch55 box.
NAI tech support, came up with a reg hack to exclude said exe files.
thus the app then was able to work correctly with OL thru Exch.

Id say call Symantec and see if they can do the same for their product

Note: It was 2 EXE files that had to be ignored

then the app can work as it should

bill

-Original Message-
From: Uso [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:20 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: EXE Outlook Forms


Hi,
we are using an Exchange integrated Fax solution and it is using EXE files
for the custom forms.
We blocked with our AV (Symantec) the transfer of EXE,COM. VBS ... files.
The vendor says that's the way there forms are and we basically have to live
with it.
I would like to know if it is commopn practice to make Outlooks Forms with
EXE extensions and what other options would be. I belive they did EXE files
because they wanted to protect the source code. The forms themselves are
standard and don't contain any weired functionality.

Would appreciate your feedback

regards
uso



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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
2 more cent's

I personally I never depend on the mass installed OS's loaded from the
hardware vendor..As I have run into more errors with these "factory"
installs then if I reload the whole thing fresh...

Me Id blow it away load fresh..then see

bill

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Here is my issue, the laptop is brand new, the install of Outlook 2002
is brand new, the rules created were brand new on a new profile.  This
is why I say it is a bug.  No I am not so 'blinded' by my presumption
that it is a bug to try other peoples ideas. That is why I wrote here.
After seeing the behavior of the rules wizard it just seemed so weird on
a machine that has never been used before  Just my opinion. 

Roger,
 I will see what I can do about getting Cleensweep and go form there


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger posted a perfectly valid solution approach - have you tried that,
or are you so blinded by your presumption that you've found a bug?

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Chris,
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
scratch and this fails also.

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of
luck I guess.  Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules
did you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of
> the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message r

RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
I believe this was done fresh at the company here Of course there's
the argument that ghosted installs suck too. ;)  Seriously, I don't know
where the problem could lie.  If I had the option to redo the install on
the laptop I would, but as it is my third day here and I'm not an
internal support person myself, I'm not sure how they'd take to this
quite yet...  Still need to feel the waters to see what I can do yet.
Thanks.

-Original Message-
From: Mellott, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:27 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


2 more cent's

I personally I never depend on the mass installed OS's loaded from the
hardware vendor..As I have run into more errors with these "factory"
installs then if I reload the whole thing fresh...

Me Id blow it away load fresh..then see

bill

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Here is my issue, the laptop is brand new, the install of Outlook 2002
is brand new, the rules created were brand new on a new profile.  This
is why I say it is a bug.  No I am not so 'blinded' by my presumption
that it is a bug to try other peoples ideas. That is why I wrote here.
After seeing the behavior of the rules wizard it just seemed so weird on
a machine that has never been used before  Just my opinion. 

Roger,
 I will see what I can do about getting Cleensweep and go form there


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Slinger, Gary [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:19 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger posted a perfectly valid solution approach - have you tried that,
or are you so blinded by your presumption that you've found a bug?

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:07
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Chris,
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
scratch and this fails also.

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of
luck I guess.  Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules
did you?

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of 
> the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 

Re: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only', does
that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why?

On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Chris, 
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I 
even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
scratch and this fails also. 

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service 
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
luck I guess.  Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules 
did you? 

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not 

make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's 

products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in 

Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback 

I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 

2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. 
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a 
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> -- 
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not 
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the 
> message and 
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message 
> > rules?  Thanks. 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > -- 
> > -- 
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if 
> it matches 
> > certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is 
> copied to 
> > the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from the 

> > Inbox. I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine 
> > what I've done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC: 
> > Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625) 
> > Exchange 2000 
> > The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> > it happens. 
> > Am I missing something? Thanks 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > 
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EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders

2003-01-17 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
I'm moving a 5.5 server from one machine to another. I've followed the EC
Move Server steps from the FAQ and all _seems_ good. I've rehomed the public
folders, added the replicas, moved all mailboxes and followed the MSKB on
removing the fist server in a site.

Now I'm up to the point of REMOVING the replicas of the public folders from
the old machine. The two machines have had several days to replicate, but
how do I "know" that all the PFs have replicated correctly. Once I remove
them from the old machine I'm toast if something went wrong, no? What should
I look for? Is there something in Outlook that I can see that says "I'm
looking at EX1's copy of this folder" vs "I'm looking at NEPTUNE's copy of
this folder." NEPTUNE being the old machine and EX1 the new.

Thanks.
-Walden


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Something to add to the EC Move server method

2003-01-17 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
Make sure your IS deleted item retention is set correctly on the new server
before you do the move. I just lost my delete item restore ability since I
hadn't changed the default of 0. I've now changed the default.

-Walden


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Re: Something to add to the EC Move server method

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
Floss every night.

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To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:37 AM
Subject: Something to add to the EC Move server method


> Make sure your IS deleted item retention is set correctly on the new
server
> before you do the move. I just lost my delete item restore ability since I
> hadn't changed the default of 0. I've now changed the default.
>
> -Walden
>
> 
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Re: Something to add to the EC Move server method

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
IIRC items in DIR don't survive a mailbox move even if it is enabled. 

On 1/17/03 10:37, "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Make sure your IS deleted item retention is set correctly on the new server 
before you do the move. I just lost my delete item restore ability since I 
hadn't changed the default of 0. I've now changed the default. 




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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Chris,
I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only...
This is the process I used to create the rules:

Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New

Selected 'Start from blank rule'
Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a contact in my PAB
to meet this critieria.
Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message.
Clicked finished. 

When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side
rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules
only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles over here
I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep.
Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will recreate my
profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  Thanks.


Damian


-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only',
does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why?

On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Chris, 
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I

even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
scratch and this fails also. 

For my next step I think I will have to try the various service 
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
luck I guess.  Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules

did you? 

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not


make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's


products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in


Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback


I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook


2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the
> message and
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message 
> > rules?  Thanks. 
> > 
> > Damian
> > -- 
> > -- 
> > --- 
> > I have a rule setup to move a message w

Re: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
So you see them all under the instances tab on the pub info store properties
for the new server?
- Original Message -
From: "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


> I'm moving a 5.5 server from one machine to another. I've followed the EC
> Move Server steps from the FAQ and all _seems_ good. I've rehomed the
public
> folders, added the replicas, moved all mailboxes and followed the MSKB on
> removing the fist server in a site.
>
> Now I'm up to the point of REMOVING the replicas of the public folders
from
> the old machine. The two machines have had several days to replicate, but
> how do I "know" that all the PFs have replicated correctly. Once I remove
> them from the old machine I'm toast if something went wrong, no? What
should
> I look for? Is there something in Outlook that I can see that says "I'm
> looking at EX1's copy of this folder" vs "I'm looking at NEPTUNE's copy of
> this folder." NEPTUNE being the old machine and EX1 the new.
>
> Thanks.
> -Walden
>
> 
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
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RE: NTbackup hardware compression ?

2003-01-17 Thread Jim Helfer

  Thanks, I'll check my drivers & hardware.  I'm using either a Sony
SDT-9000, or an HP Surestore, so I'm fairly confident that at least the
Surestore should be able to do hardware compression.

 Jim Helfer


Aaron Brasslett wrote:
> I used to back up a 17GB+ Priv on a DDS3 tape drive without spanning
> tapes. Something must be wrong with either the tape HW or the driver
> you are using. 
> 
> Aaron
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Jim Helfer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: NTbackup hardware compression ?
> 
> 
> 
>  I was wondering if hardware compression is generally effective when
> doing an Exchange-aware NTbackup backup, or if the databases are
> already compressed?
> 
>   I have a 12GB capacity DDS3 tape drive that I use to do on-line
> backups of my Exchange server. I have made sure that I am either
> using the command line switch /hc:on, or checking "hardware
> compression" in the NTbackup screeen. 
> 
>   However, since my Priv.Edb creeped up to >12 Gig, the backup spans
> two tapes.
> 
>   Could there be something I'm doing incorrectly, or is it time to
> get a bigger tape drive, or an Exchange backup program that
> understands tape loaders, or just deal with the additional pain of
> tape flipping? 
> 
>  Thanks for any info
> 
> 
>  Jim Helfer
> WTW Architects
> Pittsburgh PA
> Go Stillers ! (next year)
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a 
> contact in my PAB

Makes it a client side rule. 

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Chris,
>   I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only...
> This is the process I used to create the rules:
> 
> Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New
> 
> Selected 'Start from blank rule'
> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a 
> contact in my PAB
> to meet this critieria.
> Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message.
> Clicked finished. 
> 
> When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side
> rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules
> only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles 
> over here
> I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep.
> Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will 
> recreate my
> profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  Thanks.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only',
> does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why?
> 
> On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, 
> My apologies for not relaying these results.  It 
> still fails.  I
> 
> even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
> scratch and this fails also. 
> 
> For my next step I think I will have to try the 
> various service 
> packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
> (10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
> luck I guess.  Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> You've never indicated the results of using contacts to 
> define the rules
> 
> did you? 
> 
> On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
> Look back at the previous emails in the discussion 
> and see the 
> EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the 
> email.  Not
> 
> 
> make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
> seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using 
> Microsoft's
> 
> 
> products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said 
> before And it's 
> definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these 
> rules before in
> 
> 
> Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more 
> constructive feedback
> 
> 
> I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, 
> in Outlook
> 
> 
> 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 
> 
> -- 
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Roger, 
> >   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
> Either 
> > way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I 
> am assuming
> > that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as 
> everyone seems to 
> > think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> > copy of the 
> > message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> > Sr. Systems Administrator 
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> > Atlanta, GA 
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Update to this

RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Roger,
Does this make any difference? Other than the client has to be
open to process it?  I ask only because my rules are no longer client
side (the rules don't specifically state this in the rule wizard as they
did earlier). Thanks.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a
> contact in my PAB

Makes it a client side rule. 

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:37 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Chris,
>   I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only... This
is 
> the process I used to create the rules:
> 
> Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New
> 
> Selected 'Start from blank rule'
> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a
> contact in my PAB
> to meet this critieria.
> Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message.
> Clicked finished. 
> 
> When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side 
> rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules
> only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles 
> over here
> I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep. 
> Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will recreate 
> my profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  
> Thanks.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only',

> does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why?
> 
> On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, 
> My apologies for not relaying these results.  It
> still fails.  I
> 
> even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from
> scratch and this fails also. 
> 
> For my next step I think I will have to try the
> various service 
> packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
> (10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
> luck I guess.  Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> You've never indicated the results of using contacts to
> define the rules
> 
> did you?
> 
> On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
> Look back at the previous emails in the discussion
> and see the 
> EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the 
> email.  Not
> 
> 
> make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever
> seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using 
> Microsoft's
> 
> 
> products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said
> before And it's 
> definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these 
> rules before in
> 
> 
> Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more
> constructive feedback
> 
> 
> I'd like to hear it. Thanks.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing,
> in Outlook
> 
> 
> 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Roger, 
> >   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
> Either
> > way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I
> am assuming
> > that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as
> everyone seems to
> > think.  Thanks for the 'help'.
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of

> > the message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work
> > 
> > 

RE: Virus activity

2003-01-17 Thread Durkee, Peter
Er, yes, I know that. What I was remarking on was the fact that Klez seems to know it 
as well.

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Busby, Jacob [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:59
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Virus activity


Epiphany is a period in the Christian calendar. I think it's January 6th.

> And speaking of viruses and holidays, has anyone else noticed 
> how Klez changes for some holidays? How else can you explain 
> messages like "Have a humour Epiphany," which only turn up in 
> early January?

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RE: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders

2003-01-17 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
That wound't be sufficient. As soon as I say "move" they'll show up there,
I'm looking for that "warm fuzzy feeling" that the data has actually moved. 

-Walden


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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


So you see them all under the instances tab on the pub info store properties
for the new server?
- Original Message -
From: "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


> I'm moving a 5.5 server from one machine to another. I've followed the EC
> Move Server steps from the FAQ and all _seems_ good. I've rehomed the
public
> folders, added the replicas, moved all mailboxes and followed the MSKB on
> removing the fist server in a site.
>
> Now I'm up to the point of REMOVING the replicas of the public folders
from
> the old machine. The two machines have had several days to replicate, but
> how do I "know" that all the PFs have replicated correctly. Once I remove
> them from the old machine I'm toast if something went wrong, no? What
should
> I look for? Is there something in Outlook that I can see that says "I'm
> looking at EX1's copy of this folder" vs "I'm looking at NEPTUNE's copy of
> this folder." NEPTUNE being the old machine and EX1 the new.
>
> Thanks.
> -Walden
>
> 
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com
>
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RE: Something to add to the EC Move server method

2003-01-17 Thread Walden H. Leverich III
C'est la vie. -- Thanks.


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Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
(Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
 

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:43 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Something to add to the EC Move server method


IIRC items in DIR don't survive a mailbox move even if it is enabled. 

On 1/17/03 10:37, "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Make sure your IS deleted item retention is set correctly on the new server 
before you do the move. I just lost my delete item restore ability since I 
hadn't changed the default of 0. I've now changed the default. 




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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Roger Seielstad
I'd think it shouldn't, but I've seen the rules wizard choke for a while
under a heavy load. Like logging in first thing in the morning and it trying
to move all the messages from this forum to another folder.

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Roger,
>   Does this make any difference? Other than the client has to be
> open to process it?  I ask only because my rules are no longer client
> side (the rules don't specifically state this in the rule 
> wizard as they
> did earlier). Thanks.
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:46 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> > Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a
> > contact in my PAB
> 
> Makes it a client side rule. 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
> Atlanta, GA
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:37 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > Chris,
> > I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only... This
> is 
> > the process I used to create the rules:
> > 
> > Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New
> > 
> > Selected 'Start from blank rule'
> > Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a
> > contact in my PAB
> > to meet this critieria.
> > Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for 
> the message.
> > Clicked finished. 
> > 
> > When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side 
> > rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules
> > only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles 
> > over here
> > I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with 
> cleansweep. 
> > Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will 
> recreate 
> > my profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  
> > Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> > 
> > 
> > You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the 
> client only',
> 
> > does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why?
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Chris, 
> > My apologies for not relaying these results.  It
> > still fails.  I
> > 
> > even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the 
> rules from
> > scratch and this fails also. 
> > 
> > For my next step I think I will have to try the
> > various service 
> > packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
> > (10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I 
> am out of 
> > luck I guess.  Thanks. 
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > You've never indicated the results of using contacts to
> > define the rules
> > 
> > did you?
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Roger, 
> > Look back at the previous emails in the discussion
> > and see the 
> > EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the 
> > email.  Not
> > 
> > 
> > make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when 
> have you ever
> > seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using 
> > Microsoft's
> > 
> > 
> > products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said
> > before And it's 
> > definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these 
> > rules before in
> > 
> > 
> > Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more
> > constructive feedback
> > 
> > 
> > I'd like to hear it. Thanks.
> > 
> > 
> > Damian
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing,
> > in Outlook
> > 
> > 
> > 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> > Sr. Systems Administrator 
> > Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> > Atlanta, GA 
> > 
> > 
> > >

RE: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders

2003-01-17 Thread Mellott, Bill
shut down the original server and then see if everything works

-Original Message-
From: Walden H. Leverich III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:55 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


That wound't be sufficient. As soon as I say "move" they'll show up there,
I'm looking for that "warm fuzzy feeling" that the data has actually moved. 

-Walden


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-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:44 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


So you see them all under the instances tab on the pub info store properties
for the new server?
- Original Message -
From: "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:34 AM
Subject: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders


> I'm moving a 5.5 server from one machine to another. I've followed the EC
> Move Server steps from the FAQ and all _seems_ good. I've rehomed the
public
> folders, added the replicas, moved all mailboxes and followed the MSKB on
> removing the fist server in a site.
>
> Now I'm up to the point of REMOVING the replicas of the public folders
from
> the old machine. The two machines have had several days to replicate, but
> how do I "know" that all the PFs have replicated correctly. Once I remove
> them from the old machine I'm toast if something went wrong, no? What
should
> I look for? Is there something in Outlook that I can see that says "I'm
> looking at EX1's copy of this folder" vs "I'm looking at NEPTUNE's copy of
> this folder." NEPTUNE being the old machine and EX1 the new.
>
> Thanks.
> -Walden
>
> 
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
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RE: (Very) Delayed delivery

2003-01-17 Thread Dupler, Craig
Most perceived problems have simple solutions.  One of the bad things about a forum 
with this many participants, is that the frequency that we see complex or unusual 
problems is sufficiently high that it tends to make us go looking for complexities a 
little too quickly at times.

So, are there any really easy ways to queue a message and have its delivery delayed by 
several weeks?  First let me point out that there was a holiday break in there when 
lots of people take vacations and turn things off.  Ah, let me count the ways . . .

generated off line (there are many variations on this theme)
server died and was restored
server was off-line
ISP link went down
system upgrade and not everything got turned back on right away

I'll bet someone else can add to this list.


-Original Message-
From: Jeffrey Dubyn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 7:35 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: (Very) Delayed delivery


Here's the headers - can anyone read what was going on between 12/6/02
and 1/16/03?  The Thanks!


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Received: from smtp.customerdomain.com ([65.124.167.195]) by amcgate;
Thu, 16 Jan 2003 04:21:43 -0500 (EST)
Received: from 192.168.1.11 by CustomersTrendServer (InterScan E-Mail
VirusWall NT); Fri, 06 Dec 2002 15:09:21 -0500
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charset="iso-8859-1"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
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Message-ID:
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m>
X-MS-Has-Attach: 
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Chris Scharff
Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 9:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: (Very) Delayed delivery


Look at the headers of the message.

On 1/16/03 6:03, "Jeffrey Dubyn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I just received an email from a customer saying she was worried about 
emails not arriving.  This was sent on 12/6 and just arrived today - 
1/16. 

They have an Exchange 2000 SP3 box forwarding to a Trend InterScan Virus

Wall which is using DNS to send emails.  I know both boxes have the 
correct time on them so I'm stumped how this message could have bounced 
around so long. 

Any ideas? 


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RE: Contacts

2003-01-17 Thread Durkee, Peter
You can open the DL and do a save as to a txt file. That's about as close as you'll 
get without going the third party route. 

-Peter


-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:47
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Contacts


You mean a Personal DL?  I would check on slipstick.com for utilities or
code.

- Original Message -
From: "Milt Atkinson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:41 AM
Subject: Contacts


> Is there a way to export a distribution list from your Contacts Folder to
a
> CSV or XLS file? ... Using the Import/Export utility of Outlook 2002 only
> captures single contacts and not distribution lists within the Contacts
> Folder.
>
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RE: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders

2003-01-17 Thread Smith, Ronni
When I move from one server to another I find that comparing the public
folder resources at the server level gave me that warm fuzzy feeling. Easily
done with "save window contents" and Excel. I can spot right away any folder
that hasn't fully replicated yet.

And I always leave the old machine up but with exchange services shut down
for a few days to make sure everything is working. Then I do an offline
backup of the old server before I finish removing it.

Ronni

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> -Original Message-
> From: Walden H. Leverich III [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 8:55 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders
> 
> 
> That wound't be sufficient. As soon as I say "move" they'll 
> show up there,
> I'm looking for that "warm fuzzy feeling" that the data has 
> actually moved. 
> 
> -Walden
> 
> 
> Walden H Leverich III
> President
> Tech Software
> (516) 627-3800 x11
> (208) 692-3308 eFax
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.TechSoftInc.com 
> 
> Quiquid latine dictum sit altum viditur.
> (Whatever is said in Latin seems profound.)
>  
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:44 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders
> 
> 
> So you see them all under the instances tab on the pub info 
> store properties
> for the new server?
> - Original Message -
> From: "Walden H. Leverich III" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:34 AM
> Subject: EC 5.5 Move Server Method - Public Folders
> 
> 
> > I'm moving a 5.5 server from one machine to another. I've 
> followed the EC
> > Move Server steps from the FAQ and all _seems_ good. I've 
> rehomed the
> public
> > folders, added the replicas, moved all mailboxes and 
> followed the MSKB on
> > removing the fist server in a site.
> >
> > Now I'm up to the point of REMOVING the replicas of the 
> public folders
> from
> > the old machine. The two machines have had several days to 
> replicate, but
> > how do I "know" that all the PFs have replicated correctly. 
> Once I remove
> > them from the old machine I'm toast if something went 
> wrong, no? What
> should
> > I look for? Is there something in Outlook that I can see 
> that says "I'm
> > looking at EX1's copy of this folder" vs "I'm looking at 
> NEPTUNE's copy of
> > this folder." NEPTUNE being the old machine and EX1 the new.
> >
> > Thanks.
> > -Walden
> >
> > 
> > Walden H Leverich III
> > President
> > Tech Software
> > (516) 627-3800 x11
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RE: Exchange 2000

2003-01-17 Thread thomas . wiedemann
The file is there, but it seems nobody on the list knows about this error.
So i have to figure it out myself.

> #2)  Well obviously, a 404 error is "Page not found at (this location)"
> 
> What's so hard to figure out about that? Go to the location that it's trying
> to access and see if there is a file called logoff.asp.
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> 
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 5:54 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Exchange 2000
> 
> 
> Hello Group,
> 
> two errors/questions about a exchange 2000 cluster:
> 
> 1) Owa is only possible to connect to one of the two nodes using the netbios
> name. http:\\nodeA\exchange or http:\\nodeB\exchange How to connect owa
> using the netbios name of the shared cluster ressource?
> http:\\cluster\exchange??
> 
> 2) Logoff of the mailbox terminates with an error:
> Http: 404 page not found for http:\\nodeA\exchange\logoff.asp
> 
> Any advise for this questions?
> 
> Thom
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RE: Free Mailing List Software

2003-01-17 Thread Les Bessant
Or get your account banned for having a non-existent auto-responder[1]. Or
have your account suspended for "bouncing emails" at a time when you've got
all groups set to no mail.


[1] Happens to anyone who types a bit fast for them, as far as I can tell

-Original Message-
From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 17 January 2003 15:29
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Free Mailing List Software


I guess so, wouldn't be too bad if you didn't get replies 3 hours before you
get the original :)


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: 17 January 2003 15:24
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software
> 
> 
> Putting up with those is what gets you 'free' lists right?
> 
> On 1/17/03 9:08, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Ok thanks, guess we'll have to put up with the adverts and 
> 'web beacons' 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:58 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > 
> > 
> > There are some 3rd party mailing list products for Exchange,
> > none of them are particularly good IMHO, and none are free. Sorry. 
> > 
> > 
> > On 1/17/03 8:55, "Niki Blowfield - Exchange"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Its not a commercial thing, just a group of people who have
> > had enough of 
> > yahoogroups, and I wondered if it was possible to run an 
> > automated mailing 
> > list on MS Exchange for nowt 
> > 
> > Nik
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: 17 January 2003 14:44 
> > > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > > Subject: Re: Free Mailing List Software 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > What, you wanted to give away software that was free?
> > > 
> > > On 1/17/03 8:26, "Daniel Chenault" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Makes me wish I had time to continue developing this.
> > > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Niki Blowfield - Exchange 
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 5:10 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > > Subject: Free Mailing List Software 
> > > Sensitivity: Private 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Hello
> > > 
> > > Can anyone recommend a good, free mailing list software
> > > package for MS 
> > > Exchange Server 5.5 
> > > 
> > > Thanks in advance
> > > 
> > > Nik
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Have you tried to disable Rules Wizard and use the Inbox Assistant?

There is a KB article about that.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger,
I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not 
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and 
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches 
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to 
> the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
> 
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Re: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Andy David
I havent seen a need to do that since Outlook 98. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Have you tried to disable Rules Wizard and use the Inbox Assistant?

There is a KB article about that.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger,
I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not 
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and 
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches 
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to 
> the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
> 
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Andrey,
I had this half completed as I was trying another suggestion.
Here is where I am right now:

I've run cleansweep to kill all the old rules.  Still does not work.
I've just activated the Inbox assistant to see if this helps.

If the last step fails I will be blowing all rules away, kill my
profiles, recreated the profile, recreate mu rules and see what happens.
Then I will think about services packs. Thanks.

Damian

-Original Message-
From: Andrey Fyodorov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:33 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Have you tried to disable Rules Wizard and use the Inbox Assistant?

There is a KB article about that.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger,
I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not 
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and 
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to 
> the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
> 
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Re: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
Should be 'to people or a distribution list' I think.

On 1/17/03 10:36, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Chris, 
I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only... 
This is the process I used to create the rules: 

Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New 

Selected 'Start from blank rule' 
Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a contact in my PAB 
to meet this critieria. 
Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message. 
Clicked finished. 

When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side 
rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules 
only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles over here 
I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep. 
Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will recreate my 
profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  Thanks. 


Damian 


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only', 
does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why? 

On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Chris, 
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I 

even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
scratch and this fails also. 

   For my next step I think I will have to try the various service 
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
luck I guess.  Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules 

did you? 

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not 


make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's 


products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in 


Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback 


I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook 


2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. 
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming 
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a 
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> -- 
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> > follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> > mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> > first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but 
> does not 
> > remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the 
> message and 
> > does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> > rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> > always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and 
> > move message 
> > rules?  Thanks. 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > --

Re: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
PABs are evil.

On 1/17/03 10:44, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Roger, 
Does this make any difference? Other than the client has to be 
open to process it?  I ask only because my rules are no longer client 
side (the rules don't specifically state this in the rule wizard as they 
did earlier). Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:46 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a 
> contact in my PAB 

Makes it a client side rule. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message- 
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:37 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Chris, 
>   I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only... This 
is 
> the process I used to create the rules: 
> 
> Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New 
> 
> Selected 'Start from blank rule' 
> Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a 
> contact in my PAB 
> to meet this critieria. 
> Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message. 
> Clicked finished. 
> 
> When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side 
> rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules 
> only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles 
> over here 
> I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep. 
> Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will recreate 
> my profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  
> Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only', 

> does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why? 
> 
> On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Chris, 
> My apologies for not relaying these results.  It 
> still fails.  I 
> 
> even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
> scratch and this fails also. 
> 
> For my next step I think I will have to try the 
> various service 
> packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
> (10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
> luck I guess.  Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> You've never indicated the results of using contacts to 
> define the rules 
> 
> did you? 
> 
> On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 
> 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
> Look back at the previous emails in the discussion 
> and see the 
> EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the 
> email.  Not 
> 
> 
> make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
> seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using 
> Microsoft's 
> 
> 
> products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said 
> before And it's 
> definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these 
> rules before in 
> 
> 
> Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more 
> constructive feedback 
> 
> 
> I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 
> 
> 
> Damian 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, 
> in Outlook 
> 
> 
> 2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 
> 
> -- 
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Roger, 
> >   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message. 
> Either 
> > way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I 
> am assuming 
> > that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as 
> everyone seems to 
> > think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> > 
> > 
> > Damian 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > There are two options

Users on Exchange2000 unable to delete items from Excahnge5.5 OWA

2003-01-17 Thread MSExchange
Hi.
 
We are running Exchange 2000 in mixed mode.   We are migrating people from
5.5 by moving their mailboxes to an E2K server.   For various reasons, our
users on Exchange 2000 servers who use OWA do so by going to an Exchange 5.5
OWA.   They can do everything they could before they were moved, except
delete items.  When they try to delete items, they get a pop-up window that
says "could not delete item".  I tried looking in technet, but the only
article I found that matched the situation referred to deleting items
fromthe Outbox.  Does anyone know of another article that I missed, or has
anyone seen this situation before?
 
Thanks.
 
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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Scoles, Damian
Chris,
You're a genius... I should have seen this from the
beginning.I was using 'From' and not 'To' to sort my messages.  I
guess being out of work for almost 3 months made me forget some basic
Outlook stuff.  Sorry to harass your guys with such a stupid issue...  R

Roger,
You were right, it was user error.  Thanks for all your input.

Thanks for all the help!


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:34 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


Should be 'to people or a distribution list' I think.

On 1/17/03 10:36, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



Chris, 
I'm not sure why it created the rule as client side only... 
This is the process I used to create the rules: 

Tools --> Rules Wizard --> New 

Selected 'Start from blank rule' 
Selected 'From people or distribution group'. Picked a contact in my PAB

to meet this critieria. 
Selected 'Move to specified folder'.  Picked a folder for the message. 
Clicked finished. 

When I originaly wrote the question I was only getting client side 
rules After recreating my profile I am getting server side rules 
only... It's very strange.   As I am getting a little muddles over here 
I am going to start from scratch and wipe all rules with cleansweep. 
Then I am going to wipe all my profiles.  After this I will recreate my 
profile and then the rules to see if this clears things up.  Thanks. 


Damian 


-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:31 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You mentioned earlier in the thread this rule is 'on the client only', 
does that mean it is a client side rule? If so, why? 

On 1/17/03 10:06, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Chris, 
My apologies for not relaying these results.  It still fails.  I


even tried creating a whole new profile and recreating the rules from 
scratch and this fails also. 

   For my next step I think I will have to try the various service 
packs out there as this is the base version of Outlook 2002 
(10.2627.2625) and see if this cures my ills... Otherwise I am out of 
luck I guess.  Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Chris Scharff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 10:10 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 


You've never indicated the results of using contacts to define the rules


did you? 

On 1/17/03 9:57, "Scoles, Damian" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: 



Roger, 
Look back at the previous emails in the discussion and see the 
EXACT description of the rules.  The rule is set to move the email.  Not



make a copy.  As for it not being a product issue, when have you ever 
seen a Microsoft product that was not buggy? I've been using Microsoft's



products since DOS 2.0  It's a bug as I've said before And it's 
definitely not a user issue as I've made dozens of these rules before in



Outlook 2000 with NO issues.  If you have any more constructive feedback



I'd like to hear it. Thanks. 


Damian 

-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:58 AM 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 


I've got plenty of rules just like the ones you're descibing, in Outlook



2002, that all work fine. Hence, the belief its not the product. 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
Atlanta, GA 


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> Roger, 
>   I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either 
> way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am assuming
> that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone seems to 
> think.  Thanks for the 'help'. 
> 
> 
> Damian
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue 
> 
> 
> There are two options for rules - move the message or move a
> copy of the 
> message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE 
> Sr. Systems Administrator 
> Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity 
> Atlanta, GA 
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM 
> > To: Exchange Discussions 
> > Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue 
> > 
> > 
> > Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to
> > follow.  One is for this mai

Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Clishe, Jason
Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine. 

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Jason Kane
We had exactly the same problem in our environement and I found the same
so we added the default domain on the following virtual directories
folders:

Exchange
Exchweb
and the Public Folders Virtual Directory 
And that seemed to resolve the issue.

HTH

Jason





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of Clishe, Jason
Sent: 17 January 2003 18:06
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Users must login twice to OWA


Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine. 

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Direct: (248) 371-3542 
Mobile: (248) 891-8780


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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Charles Marriott
The second prompt is probably for the public store. Did you specify it for
the private and the public store?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clishe, Jason
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Users must login twice to OWA


Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine.

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

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Direct: (248) 371-3542
Mobile: (248) 891-8780


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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Ali Wilkes (IT)
We have this issue, to wit:

Users are in the NT4 domain "storedomain".  E2k servers are in AD
addomain.  Users use their \storedomain account to authenticate to their
e-mail accounts on E2k server2.

If we point them at a "front end server" i.e. server1 and their account
is on server2, it does not pass their credentials, and they have to
enter them twice.

Don't know if that helps you (and no there hasn't been a solution for
this yet)

-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:06 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Users must login twice to OWA
Subject: Users must login twice to OWA


Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine. 

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Direct: (248) 371-3542 
Mobile: (248) 891-8780


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RE: Rules Wizard Issue

2003-01-17 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Well maybe in this particular case it will solve this dude's problem.

-Original Message-
From: Andy David [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:42 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue


I havent seen a need to do that since Outlook 98. 

- Original Message - 
From: "Andrey Fyodorov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 12:32 PM
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Have you tried to disable Rules Wizard and use the Inbox Assistant?

There is a KB article about that.

-Original Message-
From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 9:05 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


Roger,
I am using the move message, not move a copy of the message.
Either way, this used to work in Outlook 2000 with no issues.  I am
assuming that it is a bug in Outlooks 2002 not user error as everyone
seems to think.  Thanks for the 'help'.


Damian

-Original Message-
From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 6:17 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Rules Wizard Issue


There are two options for rules - move the message or move a copy of the
message. You're using the latter on the rule that doesn't work

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MCSE
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis - Formerly Harbinger and Extricity
Atlanta, GA


> -Original Message-
> From: Scoles, Damian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Thursday, January 16, 2003 2:36 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Rules Wizard Issue
> 
> 
> Update to this issue.  I only have two rules for my rules wizard to 
> follow.  One is for this mailing list and the other is for another 
> mailing list.  Both are set the exact same way.  I noticed that the 
> first rule in the list copies the message to the folder but does not 
> remove it from the Inbox. While the second rule moves the message and 
> does not leave behind a copy.  It does not matter which of the two 
> rules is first, the patter of the first failing to work properly 
> always occurs.  Any ideas?  Or is this a bug with Outlook 2002 and
> move message
> rules?  Thanks.
> 
> Damian
> --
> --
> ---
> I have a rule setup to move a message when it comes in if it matches 
> certain criteria in the recipient address. The messages is copied to 
> the folder in the rule, but it does not remove the original from
> the Inbox. 
> I've done these rules a million times, so I cannot imagine what I've
> done wrong. Here is what I have on my PC:
> Outlook 2002 (10.2627.2625)
> Exchange 2000
> The rules are client only and the Outlook client is up when 
> it happens. 
> Am I missing something? Thanks
> 
> Damian
> 
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RE: Extract GAL from E2k and import into 5.5

2003-01-17 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Use CSVDE.exe and export the users from Active Directory to a CSV file (you can export 
only the fields that are needed)

Then massage the CSV file to fit the Exchange 5.5 field names and import it into 5.5

-Original Message-
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To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Extract GAL from E2k and import into 5.5


I need to extract all of our users from our Exchange 2000 GAL and import
them into an Exchange 5.5 server.  What is the best method for this?


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Upgrading OWA from 5.5 to 2000

2003-01-17 Thread Bailey, Matthew
I cannot seem to find specific documentation on how you upgrade a webserver
that is only running OWA from 5.5 to 2000.  Common sense tells me to pop the
Exchange 2000 CD in and run setup (followed by SP3) but I would like to see
some documentation.

Has anybody done this?  Are there any pitfalls to avoid?

- Matt

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CSK Auto, Inc.
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Re: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Tony Hlabse
Did you stop and start the service after the change?

- Original Message - 
From: "Ali Wilkes (IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:16 PM
Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA


We have this issue, to wit:

Users are in the NT4 domain "storedomain".  E2k servers are in AD
addomain.  Users use their \storedomain account to authenticate to their
e-mail accounts on E2k server2.

If we point them at a "front end server" i.e. server1 and their account
is on server2, it does not pass their credentials, and they have to
enter them twice.

Don't know if that helps you (and no there hasn't been a solution for
this yet)

-Original Message-
From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:06 PM
Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
Conversation: Users must login twice to OWA
Subject: Users must login twice to OWA


Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine. 

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
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Mobile: (248) 891-8780


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Upgrade Q from 5.5 to 2k.

2003-01-17 Thread Jerry J.
This might be very stupid but I cannot find any conclusive reference to
answer my questions. First of all my network: NT 4.0 PDC and BDC then an
NT 4.0 server running exchange 5.5. My plan is to upgrade the PDC then the
BDC to 2k server leaving it in mixed mode leaving me with one non DC nt
4.0 server running exchange 5.5. I then plan to upgrade the OS on the last
server to 2k server. At this point is where I have the questions and am
looking for reference. After the last step do I then run ADC prior to
upgrading to exchange 2k? Does the server running exchange need to be a
DC? Do I need to have a different server with exchange 2k installed before
running ADC? There are no hardware issues with the server running exchange
so I cannot replace it. I have to use just the hardware I have now. My
problem is that I read one thing on MS site and my books from Sybex and
such say slightly different things which could be potentially devastating
if this upgrade goes awry. So if someone can point to some reference and
say "this is absolutely what you need to do" I would really appreciate it.

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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Clishe, Jason
You bet.

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 2:03 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> Did you stop and start the service after the change?
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ali Wilkes (IT)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:16 PM
> Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> We have this issue, to wit:
> 
> Users are in the NT4 domain "storedomain".  E2k servers are 
> in AD addomain.  Users use their \storedomain account to 
> authenticate to their e-mail accounts on E2k server2.
> 
> If we point them at a "front end server" i.e. server1 and 
> their account is on server2, it does not pass their 
> credentials, and they have to enter them twice.
> 
> Don't know if that helps you (and no there hasn't been a 
> solution for this yet)
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Clishe, Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Posted At: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:06 PM
> Posted To: List - Exchange Server List
> Conversation: Users must login twice to OWA
> Subject: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.
> 
> This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users 
> access OWA, they are prompted for their credentials. Upon 
> entering their credentials, they are immediately prompted 
> again. After entering their credentials the second time, OWA 
> works fine. 
> 
> Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the 
> solution is to specify the default domain in the 
> authentication tab of the Public virtual directory. I have 
> done exactly as the article states, but users still must login twice.
> 
> I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any 
> suggestions other than setting the default domain, as the MS 
> article suggests.
> 
> Any idea's?
> 
> J a s o n  C l i s h e
> Senior Network Engineer
> Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Direct: (248) 371-3542 
> Mobile: (248) 891-8780
> 
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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Clishe, Jason
When you ask if I specified it for the public store, do you mean did I
specify the default domain on the public virtual directory? If so, yes. 
 
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:17 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> The second prompt is probably for the public store. Did you 
> specify it for the private and the public store?
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Clishe, Jason
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:06 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.
> 
> This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users 
> access OWA, they are prompted for their credentials. Upon 
> entering their credentials, they are immediately prompted 
> again. After entering their credentials the second time, OWA 
> works fine.
> 
> Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the 
> solution is to specify the default domain in the 
> authentication tab of the Public virtual directory. I have 
> done exactly as the article states, but users still must login twice.
> 
> I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any 
> suggestions other than setting the default domain, as the MS 
> article suggests.
> 
> Any idea's?
> 
> J a s o n  C l i s h e
> Senior Network Engineer
> Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group
> 
> Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Direct: (248) 371-3542
> Mobile: (248) 891-8780
> 
> 
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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Clishe, Jason
I have set the default domain on the "Exchange" and "Public" virtual
directories. My Exchweb virtual directory does not have Basic
Authentication selected, so therefore I can't set the default domain on
it. Did you have to go in and manually enable Basic Authentication on
the Exchweb virtual directory?
 
Did you have to modify any NTFS permissions on any of the associated
directories?
 
Jason

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason Kane [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:16 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> We had exactly the same problem in our environement and I 
> found the same so we added the default domain on the 
> following virtual directories
> folders:
> 
> Exchange
> Exchweb
> and the Public Folders Virtual Directory 
> And that seemed to resolve the issue.
> 
> HTH
> 
> Jason
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of 
> Clishe, Jason
> Sent: 17 January 2003 18:06
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Users must login twice to OWA
> 
> 
> Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.
> 
> This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users 
> access OWA, they are prompted for their credentials. Upon 
> entering their credentials, they are immediately prompted 
> again. After entering their credentials the second time, OWA 
> works fine. 
> 
> Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the 
> solution is to specify the default domain in the 
> authentication tab of the Public virtual directory. I have 
> done exactly as the article states, but users still must login twice.
> 
> I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any 
> suggestions other than setting the default domain, as the MS 
> article suggests.
> 
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RE: Users must login twice to OWA

2003-01-17 Thread Andrey Fyodorov
Exactly what I thought.

-Original Message-
From: Charles Marriott [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 1:17 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Users must login twice to OWA


The second prompt is probably for the public store. Did you specify it for
the private and the public store?

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Sent: Friday, January 17, 2003 11:06 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Users must login twice to OWA


Exchange 2000 SP3 running on Windows 2000 SP3.

This is a brand new Exchange 2000 environment. When users access OWA,
they are prompted for their credentials. Upon entering their
credentials, they are immediately prompted again. After entering their
credentials the second time, OWA works fine.

Microsoft article Q324774 describes this problem and says the solution
is to specify the default domain in the authentication tab of the Public
virtual directory. I have done exactly as the article states, but users
still must login twice.

I have also done a Google search, but I haven't found any suggestions
other than setting the default domain, as the MS article suggests.

Any idea's?

J a s o n  C l i s h e
Senior Network Engineer
Analysts International, Sequoia Services Group

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Re: Upgrading OWA from 5.5 to 2000

2003-01-17 Thread Chris Scharff
There is nothing quite analogous to  'only running OWA'  in E2K, you'll want
to spend some time researching the requirements for and implications of
implementing a FE/BE topology.

On 1/17/03 12:50, "Bailey, Matthew" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I cannot seem to find specific documentation on how you upgrade a webserver 
that is only running OWA from 5.5 to 2000.  Common sense tells me to pop the

Exchange 2000 CD in and run setup (followed by SP3) but I would like to see 
some documentation. 

Has anybody done this?  Are there any pitfalls to avoid? 

- Matt 

Matthew Bailey 
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CSK Auto, Inc. 
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