Re: Archiving Solutions

[Glenn Corbett]

Used KVS Enterprise Vault for just such a solution, works a treat. The
client side integration and features are way ahead of other productss.

http://www.kvsplc.com/

Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Carmila Fresco" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2003 6:02 AM
Subject: Archiving Solutions


Does anyone have any experience with archiving solutions like veritas
storage migrator for exchange?

We currently do not impose hard limits on our users due to a lot of
regulations that we need to comply with.  We have users who have
mailboxes close to 3GB.  On one exchange server that has 180 users, the
total size of the store is already at a 110GB.

I'm interested to know what solutions you have in place to keep down the
size of user's mailboxes.

Thanks,
Carmila






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additional display name? - same question, proper thread topic

[Morrison, Gordon]

Sorry for the repost.
It's Friday afternoon and I forgot about the thread topic field being a header field.
For those of you who sort by thread topic.


Does anyone know of a way to have both a maiden name and married name appear as 
distinct display names in the OAB, yet have them both point to the same account?

E2ksp3

Thanks,
Gordon








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Does anyone know of a way to have both a maiden name and married name appear as 
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E2ksp3

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Archiving Solutions

[Carmila Fresco]

Does anyone have any experience with archiving solutions like veritas
storage migrator for exchange?

We currently do not impose hard limits on our users due to a lot of
regulations that we need to comply with.  We have users who have
mailboxes close to 3GB.  On one exchange server that has 180 users, the
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I'm interested to know what solutions you have in place to keep down the
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Thanks,
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RE: Event ID's 1008, 2002 and 3001

[jp]

No that this solves all problems but,  www.eventid.net has been a tremendous resource 
for diagnosis event id's.

JP

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From: Pennell, Ronald B. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:59 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Event ID's 1008, 2002 and 3001


Running Ex2k sp3..  I'am getting these event id's over and over again.
Event 1008, 2002 and 3001 dealing with perflib errors.  1008 dealing
with the "appletalk" in dll atkctrs.  I checked technet and it lists the
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RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Carmila Fresco]

Probably uninstall what you currently have and install the eval.  You'll
need to recreate your settings but the good news is you don't have to
uninstall the eval once you have your serial numbers. 


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:08 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Tried that. It told me that my server "does not support trial version
upgrades". When I told that to the licensing rep at Trend, she did say
she would deliver the paperwork in person and be sure it gets done ASAP.
I just don't know if ASAP means today or 47.5 hours instead of 48.



Thanks...Ray

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a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be
made in his subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I think you can install it in trial mode for about 30 days then apply
the key later when you get it.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Beckwith
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Thanks again. Have you been able to confirm what version of ScanMail you
are using with that build number. I'm still wrestling with Trend to get
my serial number for 6.1. Apparently we never got notified our
maintenance was up and I had to renew again. Took 3 days to figure that
out. Then they told me it would take another 2 days to get the serial
number, meanwhile server is failing to send and receive internet mail a
couple times a day and the bosses are getting hot. I love their products
but Trends licensing really pisses me off!



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in
a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be
made in his subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Ever since I did the update on scanmail, our problem went away.

We don't have a metaframe server but almost the same thing happened to 2
of my exchange servers (we have 7).  The WWW service would go down
almost at the same time on both servers.  I originally thought we were
hit by a virus but I did a scan and both servers were clean.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and
another question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of
ScanMail (6.1) from Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and
they won't talk to me until I get up to date. Also, the problem has been
accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash daily and sometimes
multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue
also have a MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it
acting strangely as well? We have seen, on several occasions, the
MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop unexpectedly at around
the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in
finding any definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we
started having problems with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3
running on Win2K SP3. At intervals between a couple days and a week, we
notice that a number of System Services shut down unexpectedly. Upon
looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated

unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service
te

RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Ray Beckwith]

Tried that. It told me that my server "does not support trial version upgrades". When 
I told that to the licensing rep at Trend, she did say she would deliver the paperwork 
in person and be sure it gets done ASAP. I just don't know if ASAP means today or 47.5 
hours instead of 48.



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow 
field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be made in his 
subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Brian Ko [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:05 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I think you can install it in trial mode for about 30 days then apply
the key later when you get it.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Beckwith
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Thanks again. Have you been able to confirm what version of ScanMail you
are using with that build number. I'm still wrestling with Trend to get
my serial number for 6.1. Apparently we never got notified our
maintenance was up and I had to renew again. Took 3 days to figure that
out. Then they told me it would take another 2 days to get the serial
number, meanwhile server is failing to send and receive internet mail a
couple times a day and the bosses are getting hot. I love their products
but Trends licensing really pisses me off!



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in
a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be
made in his subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Ever since I did the update on scanmail, our problem went away.

We don't have a metaframe server but almost the same thing happened to 2
of my exchange servers (we have 7).  The WWW service would go down
almost at the same time on both servers.  I originally thought we were
hit by a virus but I did a scan and both servers were clean.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and
another question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of
ScanMail (6.1) from Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and
they won't talk to me until I get up to date. Also, the problem has been
accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash daily and sometimes
multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue
also have a MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it
acting strangely as well? We have seen, on several occasions, the
MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop unexpectedly at around
the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in
finding any definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we
started having problems with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3
running on Win2K SP3. At intervals between a couple days and a week, we
notice that a number of System Services shut down unexpectedly. Upon
looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated

unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service
terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The World Wide Web Publishing service terminated
unexpectedly...

On 2 occasions, this sequence was followed by the server rebooting on
its own and generating an event ID 6008 "the previous shutdown...was
unexpected."

I searched the MSKB and the only thing I coul

RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Brian Ko]

I think you can install it in trial mode for about 30 days then apply
the key later when you get it.  

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Beckwith
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:54 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Thanks again. Have you been able to confirm what version of ScanMail you
are using with that build number. I'm still wrestling with Trend to get
my serial number for 6.1. Apparently we never got notified our
maintenance was up and I had to renew again. Took 3 days to figure that
out. Then they told me it would take another 2 days to get the serial
number, meanwhile server is failing to send and receive internet mail a
couple times a day and the bosses are getting hot. I love their products
but Trends licensing really pisses me off!



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in
a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be
made in his subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Ever since I did the update on scanmail, our problem went away.

We don't have a metaframe server but almost the same thing happened to 2
of my exchange servers (we have 7).  The WWW service would go down
almost at the same time on both servers.  I originally thought we were
hit by a virus but I did a scan and both servers were clean.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and
another question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of
ScanMail (6.1) from Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and
they won't talk to me until I get up to date. Also, the problem has been
accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash daily and sometimes
multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue
also have a MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it
acting strangely as well? We have seen, on several occasions, the
MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop unexpectedly at around
the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in
finding any definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we
started having problems with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3
running on Win2K SP3. At intervals between a couple days and a week, we
notice that a number of System Services shut down unexpectedly. Upon
looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated

unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service
terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The World Wide Web Publishing service terminated
unexpectedly...

On 2 occasions, this sequence was followed by the server rebooting on
its own and generating an event ID 6008 "the previous shutdown...was
unexpected."

I searched the MSKB and the only thing I could find that seemed to
relate was a reference to lingering issues from the CodeRed virus. I
used Trend Micro's system cleanup application and confirmed that there
were no indications of infection on the server.

I am hoping there are others out there that may have seen something like
this that can offer some suggestions short of reinstalling the entire
system. Please help.



Thanks in advance...

Ray Beckwith
Network Administrator
California Credit Union League
Information Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ccul.org 


Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in
a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that

FW: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action taken.

[Ray Beckwith]

Oops. Apparently I was naughty. My apologies to any mail servers I have offended.



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow 
field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be made in his 
subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





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Subject: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action
taken.


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Event ID's 1008, 2002 and 3001

[Pennell, Ronald B.]

Running Ex2k sp3..  I'am getting these event id's over and over again.
Event 1008, 2002 and 3001 dealing with perflib errors.  1008 dealing
with the "appletalk" in dll atkctrs.  I checked technet and it lists the
events 1008, 2002, and 3001 but, still trying to figure out what I need
to due to stop the messages from appearing in the application log.

Anyone run into this?

Ron Pennell
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

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RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Ray Beckwith]

Thanks again. Have you been able to confirm what version of ScanMail you are using 
with that build number. I'm still wrestling with Trend to get my serial number for 
6.1. Apparently we never got notified our maintenance was up and I had to renew again. 
Took 3 days to figure that out. Then they told me it would take another 2 days to get 
the serial number, meanwhile server is failing to send and receive internet mail a 
couple times a day and the bosses are getting hot. I love their products but Trends 
licensing really pisses me off!



Thanks...Ray

Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in a very narrow 
field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be made in his 
subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





-Original Message-
From: Carmila Fresco [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:31 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


Ever since I did the update on scanmail, our problem went away.

We don't have a metaframe server but almost the same thing happened to 2
of my exchange servers (we have 7).  The WWW service would go down
almost at the same time on both servers.  I originally thought we were
hit by a virus but I did a scan and both servers were clean.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and
another question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of
ScanMail (6.1) from Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and
they won't talk to me until I get up to date. Also, the problem has been
accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash daily and sometimes
multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue
also have a MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it
acting strangely as well? We have seen, on several occasions, the
MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop unexpectedly at around
the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in
finding any definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we
started having problems with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3
running on Win2K SP3. At intervals between a couple days and a week, we
notice that a number of System Services shut down unexpectedly. Upon
looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated

unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service
terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The World Wide Web Publishing service terminated
unexpectedly...

On 2 occasions, this sequence was followed by the server rebooting on
its own and generating an event ID 6008 "the previous shutdown...was
unexpected."

I searched the MSKB and the only thing I could find that seemed to
relate was a reference to lingering issues from the CodeRed virus. I
used Trend Micro's system cleanup application and confirmed that there
were no indications of infection on the server.

I am hoping there are others out there that may have seen something like
this that can offer some suggestions short of reinstalling the entire
system. Please help.



Thanks in advance...

Ray Beckwith
Network Administrator
California Credit Union League
Information Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ccul.org 


Thought for the day:
An expert is a person who has made all the mistakes which can be made in
a very narrow field.
--Niels Bohr

An expert is someone who knows some of the worst mistakes that can be
made in his subject, and how to avoid them.
--Werner Karl Heisenberg 





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Hi,

Is MTA is use at all in any way in Exchange 2000 even if we still have 5.5 on the NT 
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RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Carmila Fresco]

Ever since I did the update on scanmail, our problem went away.

We don't have a metaframe server but almost the same thing happened to 2
of my exchange servers (we have 7).  The WWW service would go down
almost at the same time on both servers.  I originally thought we were
hit by a virus but I did a scan and both servers were clean.


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and
another question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of
ScanMail (6.1) from Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and
they won't talk to me until I get up to date. Also, the problem has been
accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash daily and sometimes
multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue
also have a MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it
acting strangely as well? We have seen, on several occasions, the
MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop unexpectedly at around
the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in
finding any definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we
started having problems with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3
running on Win2K SP3. At intervals between a couple days and a week, we
notice that a number of System Services shut down unexpectedly. Upon
looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated

unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service
terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The World Wide Web Publishing service terminated
unexpectedly...

On 2 occasions, this sequence was followed by the server rebooting on
its own and generating an event ID 6008 "the previous shutdown...was
unexpected."

I searched the MSKB and the only thing I could find that seemed to
relate was a reference to lingering issues from the CodeRed virus. I
used Trend Micro's system cleanup application and confirmed that there
were no indications of infection on the server.

I am hoping there are others out there that may have seen something like
this that can offer some suggestions short of reinstalling the entire
system. Please help.



Thanks in advance...

Ray Beckwith
Network Administrator
California Credit Union League
Information Technology
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
www.ccul.org 


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RE: Friday Haiku

[Stephen Mynhier]

Actually, there are 2 shirts

The one that Chris is talking about is from the MessageOne party at
SpeedZone on Sunday night.  It has the TechEd 2003 logo with a nice red
X over TechEd and a handwritten MEC above it.  Very nice.

The one I was referring to was from the Aelita booth.  It just has
"Exchange Guru" written on it in nice big letters.  Also very nice, but
unfortunately, handed out willy-nilly, and therefore, not as cool.  I
think that some of the people that I saw wearing them could barely spell
"IT"

-Original Message-
From: Mark Jeremy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:03 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Friday Haiku
Subject: RE: Friday Haiku


Got a pix of that shirt you can share with us?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Friday Haiku


I have to tell you all I have never had a shirt generate so much
interaction for me!! I am curious if anyone else had similar experiences
. . .

1. exactly 6 people offered to buy the shirt off of me.
2. exactly 9 different people at the party last night had pictures taken
with my shirt. And I mean "my shirt." I had to turn around so they could
be photographed standing next to the back of it. 3. At the expo
yesterday someone from MS approached me and asked me why I found it
necessary to cross out Tech Ed on my shirt. He seemed to think I made
this shirt up just for myself and not that it was a "group" shirt and
was quite dismayed. As if this was my personal political statement. I
told him it was given to me at a party for a group of Exchange admins;
not a personal vendetta, etc. Of course, I said, as long as you are here
I am disappointed you canceled MEC and don't disagree with the back of
the shirt. And went on with my grievances . . . :)

In the end he thanked me! :)

Chris

- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Friday Haiku


What have I learned here?
I need a wireless toy
No, not one like that

I want to check mail
While sitting in a session
I want better toys

Drunk geeks aren't pretty
Not enough girls for them all
They need cold showers

Walking around here
All these "Exchange Guru" shirts
Most cannot spell it

Some sessions were good
Other sessions were long naps
I still hate clusters.

stemy

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Ward, Stuart]

Have them 'zipped' up...

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:25 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?


Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get blocked because of
the extention, so I have to copy it to a share for them to retrieve it - I'm
then reliant on the AV on my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus
checker to say "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should
quarantine that sort of file.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how I'd like it to
work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of the way there with the
integrated quarantine manager section.

regards
paul
- Original Message - 
From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


> Why would it need to?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
>
>
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
> attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
> quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them
as
> well.
>
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> > functions a LOT better.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought,
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Tim Gowen
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >
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RE: Friday Haiku

[Mark Jeremy]

Got a pix of that shirt you can share with us?

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Chris H
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:41 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: Friday Haiku


I have to tell you all I have never had a shirt generate so much
interaction for me!! I am curious if anyone else had similar experiences
. . .

1. exactly 6 people offered to buy the shirt off of me.
2. exactly 9 different people at the party last night had pictures taken
with my shirt. And I mean "my shirt." I had to turn around so they could
be photographed standing next to the back of it. 3. At the expo
yesterday someone from MS approached me and asked me why I found it
necessary to cross out Tech Ed on my shirt. He seemed to think I made
this shirt up just for myself and not that it was a "group" shirt and
was quite dismayed. As if this was my personal political statement. I
told him it was given to me at a party for a group of Exchange admins;
not a personal vendetta, etc. Of course, I said, as long as you are here
I am disappointed you canceled MEC and don't disagree with the back of
the shirt. And went on with my grievances . . . :)

In the end he thanked me! :)

Chris

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Friday Haiku


What have I learned here?
I need a wireless toy
No, not one like that

I want to check mail
While sitting in a session
I want better toys

Drunk geeks aren't pretty
Not enough girls for them all
They need cold showers

Walking around here
All these "Exchange Guru" shirts
Most cannot spell it

Some sessions were good
Other sessions were long naps
I still hate clusters.

stemy

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Re: Friday Haiku

[Chris H]

I have to tell you all I have never had a shirt generate so much interaction
for me!! I am curious if anyone else had similar experiences . . .

1. exactly 6 people offered to buy the shirt off of me.
2. exactly 9 different people at the party last night had pictures taken
with my shirt. And I mean "my shirt." I had to turn around so they could be
photographed standing next to the back of it.
3. At the expo yesterday someone from MS approached me and asked me why I
found it necessary to cross out Tech Ed on my shirt. He seemed to think I
made this shirt up just for myself and not that it was a "group" shirt and
was quite dismayed. As if this was my personal political statement. I told
him it was given to me at a party for a group of Exchange admins; not a
personal vendetta, etc. Of course, I said, as long as you are here I am
disappointed you canceled MEC and don't disagree with the back of the shirt.
And went on with my grievances . . . :)

In the end he thanked me! :)

Chris

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:02 AM
Subject: Friday Haiku


What have I learned here?
I need a wireless toy
No, not one like that

I want to check mail
While sitting in a session
I want better toys

Drunk geeks aren't pretty
Not enough girls for them all
They need cold showers

Walking around here
All these "Exchange Guru" shirts
Most cannot spell it

Some sessions were good
Other sessions were long naps
I still hate clusters.

stemy

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Roger Seielstad]

Admin's don't let users receive EXE's via email. FAQ

--
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 12:25 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get 
> blocked because of the extention, so I have to copy it to a 
> share for them to retrieve it - I'm then reliant on the AV on 
> my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus checker to say 
> "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should 
> quarantine that sort of file.
> 
> Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how 
> I'd like it to work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of 
> the way there with the integrated quarantine manager section.
> 
> regards
> paul
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> > Why would it need to?
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan 
> > attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of 
> > bugbears quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to 
> > actually scan them
> as
> > well.
> >
> > regards,
> > Paul
> > --
> > Paul Hutchings
> > Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> > Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> > mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I 
> believe it 
> > > functions a LOT better.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > > Inovis Inc.
> > >
> > >
> > > > -Original Message-
> > > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using 
> ScanMail.  I have 
> > > > ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of 
> Danger, and yet 
> > > > this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  
> > > > A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which 
> > > > had apparently got through.  But the manual scan does 
> not pick up 
> > > > the file I just mentioned, which is now in my Deleted Items.  A 
> > > > copy is on my hard drive and Sophos AntiVirus also 
> doesn't detect 
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  
> > > > I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see what 
> they say, but 
> > > > the attachment blocking was, I thought, non-negotiable 
> and always 
> > > > works.  Luckily I badger my users about the danger of 
> attachments 
> > > > on a fairly regular basis.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Tim
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Tim Gowen
> > > > RAF Museum
> > > > IT Dept.
> > > >
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Roger Seielstad]

I don't quarantine. If it can't be cleaned, its deleted...

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was 
> to scan attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had 
> loads of bugbears quarantined for being .exe's , but it 
> doesn't seem to actually scan them as well.
> 
> regards,
> Paul
> --
> Paul Hutchings
> Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378 
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it 
> > functions a LOT better.
> > 
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> > 
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > > 
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > > 
> > > 
> > >   Tim
> > > 
> > > --
> > > Tim Gowen  
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
> > >  
> > > 
> > > Confidentiality: This e-mail and its attachments are intended
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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[John Matteson]

Digital Signature?

John Matteson
Geac Corporate ISS
(404) 239 - 2981
Atlanta, Georgia, USA.




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Conversation: Sending emails that can not be altered
Subject: Sending emails that can not be altered


Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here asked if
there 
is a way to send and email so that the content can not be altered by the

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RE: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...

[Ray Beckwith]

I have an update on this issue for those of you still following it, and another 
question.

First, I am still in the process of getting the latest version of ScanMail (6.1) from 
Trend. Apparently 5.1 is no longer supported and they won't talk to me until I get up 
to date. Also, the problem has been accelerating; we are now seeing the services crash 
daily and sometimes multiple times daily. 

The question is, do any of you out there who have heard of this issue also have a 
MetaFrame server in your organization and have you seen it acting strangely as well? 
We have seen, on several occasions, the MetaFrame server's WWW Publishing Service stop 
unexpectedly at around the same time as the Exchange services go down. 

As always, I welcome any input or suggestions.



Thanks...Ray


-Original Message-
From: Ray Beckwith 
Sent: Monday, June 02, 2003 11:12 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 2000 Services crashing and server rebooting...


I have a question to run by the list that I have been unsuccessful in finding any 
definitive answers to anywhere else. About a month ago, we started having problems 
with our Exchange 2000 server. It is Ex2K SP3 running on Win2K SP3. At intervals 
between a couple days and a week, we notice that a number of System Services shut down 
unexpectedly. Upon looking at the event logs we see the following sequence of events. 

Event Id: 7031  The IIS Admin Service service terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange IMAP4 service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Network News Transport (NNTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange POP3 terminated unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Microsoft Exchange Routing Engine service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The Simple Mail Transport Protocol (SMTP) service terminated 
unexpectedly...
Event Id: 7031  The World Wide Web Publishing service terminated unexpectedly...

On 2 occasions, this sequence was followed by the server rebooting on its own and 
generating an event ID 6008 "the previous shutdown...was unexpected."

I searched the MSKB and the only thing I could find that seemed to relate was a 
reference to lingering issues from the CodeRed virus. I used Trend Micro's system 
cleanup application and confirmed that there were no indications of infection on the 
server.

I am hoping there are others out there that may have seen something like this that can 
offer some suggestions short of reinstalling the entire system. Please help.



Thanks in advance...

Ray Beckwith
Network Administrator
California Credit Union League
Information Technology
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Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Paul Hutchings]

Sometimes users get sent legitimate executables, they get blocked because of
the extention, so I have to copy it to a share for them to retrieve it - I'm
then reliant on the AV on my desktop, what I'd prefer is for the virus
checker to say "is it infected" before it looks at whether it should
quarantine that sort of file.

Maybe I'm looking at it the wrong way, but that's just how I'd like it to
work - in fairness with 3.81 they're most of the way there with the
integrated quarantine manager section.

regards
paul
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From: "Ward, Stuart" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 5:06 PM
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


> Why would it need to?
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
>
>
> No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
> attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
> quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them
as
> well.
>
> regards,
> Paul
> --
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> Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> >
> >
> > You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> > functions a LOT better.
> >
> > --
> > Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> > Sr. Systems Administrator
> > Inovis Inc.
> >
> >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > > To: Exchange Discussions
> > > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which
> > > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I
> > > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and
> > > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to
> > > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected
> > > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual
> > > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now
> > > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
> > > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > >
> > > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if
> > > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely
> > > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see
> > > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought,
> > > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users
> > > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > >
> > >
> > > Tim
> > >
> > > -- 
> > > Tim Gowen
> > > RAF Museum
> > > IT Dept.
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Re: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Ray Beckwith]

We had this issue a while back when we first started using ScanMail. We
found out from Trend that when ScanMail runs in MAPI mode, it doesn't scan
the attachments until AFTER the message is in the inbox; which leaves the
possibility if the server is extremely busy scanning, the user could see
and even open the message before the scanner gets to it.

The solution was to run ScanMail in AVAPI mode instead. This mode
intercepts attachments before they reach the IS. Just be sure you have
upgraded to the latest version of ScanMail and the latest Exchange SP
first as there have been issues with AVAPI mode in earlier versions
crashing the IS. Check the list archives for this topic. I know it was
discussed here a couple years ago.

Good Luck.
Ray

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Brian Ko]

I'd check your Scan Engine and make sure you have the latest scan engine
& pattern file.  I'd also enable AVAPI if you're not yet.

Brian

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Exchange
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 9:40 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?




I don't know what the deal is with this latest version of BugBear, but
it's really a problem.  

I started having issues with it on the 4th.  

The remote access and key logger are the scary parts of this worm.

I have had it get past two A/V scanners.  One on mail and one on
workstations.  I have double extensions blocked and all the usual
extensions too.

I recommend everyone be on alert for this one:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100358.htm

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_BUGBE
AR.B

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:25 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: ScanMail missing tricks?
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever
> happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 
> 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
> BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox. 
>  A Manual scan
> showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had 
> apparently got
> through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I 
> just mentioned,
> which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive 
> and Sophos
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive
> at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have 
> sent the file to
> Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment 
> blocking was, I
> thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger 
> my users about
> the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Ward, Stuart]

Why would it need to?

-Original Message-
From: Paul Hutchings [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:58 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?


No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them as
well.

regards,
Paul
--
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Network Administrator, MIRA Ltd.
Tel: 024 7635 5378, Fax: 024 7635 8378
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> functions a LOT better.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > 
> > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tim Gowen  
> > RAF Museum
> > IT Dept.
> >  
> > 
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RE: RUS

[Stephen Mynhier]

All RUS's should point to the same DC/GC.  Let AD replication carry the
changes around the org.  Otherwise you risk writing conflicting data to
2 dif't dc's in your environment.  Yeah, not good

Stemy

-Original Message-
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Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 11:57 AM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: RUS
Subject: RUS


I have 2 W2K DCs and they're both are GC server. Right now there are two
RUS, one is the enterprise point to DC1 and one is the organization also
point to DC1.  Technically, I can create another RUS and point it to DC2
so the GAL gets update as well , but I read somewhere that all I have to
do is change the Enterprise RUS to DC1 and the Org RUS to DC2.  Is that
true?

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Paul Hutchings]

No problems here with 3.81 - one thing I wish it did do was to scan
attachments blocked by extention blocking - we've had loads of bugbears
quarantined for being .exe's , but it doesn't seem to actually scan them as
well.

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Paul
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mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:46
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
> functions a LOT better.
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> > To: Exchange Discussions
> > Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> > doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> > have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> > SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> > yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> > the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> > attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> > scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> > in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> > AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> > 
> > Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> > several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> > solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> > what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> > non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> > about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> > 
> > 
> > Tim
> > 
> > -- 
> > Tim Gowen  
> > RAF Museum
> > IT Dept.
> >  
> > 
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RUS

[Pham, Tuan]

I have 2 W2K DCs and they're both are GC server. Right now there are two RUS, one is 
the enterprise point to DC1 and one is the organization also point to DC1.  
Technically, I can create another RUS and point it to DC2 so the GAL gets update as 
well , but I read somewhere that all I have to do is change the Enterprise RUS to DC1 
and the Org RUS to DC2.  Is that true?

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Friday Haiku

[Stephen Mynhier]

What have I learned here?
I need a wireless toy
No, not one like that

I want to check mail
While sitting in a session
I want better toys

Drunk geeks aren't pretty
Not enough girls for them all
They need cold showers

Walking around here
All these "Exchange Guru" shirts
Most cannot spell it

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I still hate clusters.

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RE: Outlook web access

[James Forbis]

Try http://servername/exchange



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-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 1:41 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Outlook web access


Have recently set up outlook web access and set the config for a user and
the http details, but having trouble loging in via a browser, not sure if
I have missed a step. Does the users actual PC have to be set up to log on
correctly?. What is the format for the url for the user?. Bit confused
with it, we have just set up our own mail server with exchange 5.5. and
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RE: Real world experience

[Robert Moir]

You could present the various exact scenarios you hoped clustering exchange would help 
with and let the group kick around a discussion over if it would actually help and by 
how much.

-Original Message- 
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 05/06/2003 22:45 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: Real world experience



 Ok thanks, seems like the ideology of bringing servers online as mailbox's
increase. I haven't heard any other alternative.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 15:34
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Just left an HP session at TechEd.  Although there were obviously
vendor-specified disclaimers, the speaker's verdict was pretty simple --
Clustering just isn't meant for Exchange.

Like asking a car manufacturer to fix that whole
smashing-when-you-drive-your-car-into-a-brick-wall sorta thing.  It's not
broke.  It's just not smart.

stemy


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:38 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Real world experience
Subject: RE: Real world experience


 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot)


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase 3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not 100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have always
preferred to error on the side of you can never have too much power.  I
would like to hear from people using SAN's or the like to account for TB
size storage and backup. How close was the configuration load wizards to
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RE: Real world experience

[Finch Brett]

 Ok thanks, seems like the ideology of bringing servers online as mailbox's
increase. I haven't heard any other alternative.

-Original Message-
From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 15:34
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Just left an HP session at TechEd.  Although there were obviously
vendor-specified disclaimers, the speaker's verdict was pretty simple --
Clustering just isn't meant for Exchange.

Like asking a car manufacturer to fix that whole
smashing-when-you-drive-your-car-into-a-brick-wall sorta thing.  It's not
broke.  It's just not smart.

stemy


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:38 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Real world experience
Subject: RE: Real world experience


 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot) 


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase 3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not 100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have always
preferred to error on the side of you can never have too much power.  I
would like to hear from people using SAN's or the like to account for TB
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what you really required. Thanks

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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Roger Seielstad]

You might want to consider upgrading to Scanmail 3.81. I believe it
functions a LOT better.

--
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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
> 
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RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.

[Les Bessant]

I thought the Navy stopped doing that a century or two ago. You must be
older than your .sig looks

Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
22-24 Grey Street
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 6AD
Direct dial: 0191 269 0110
Mobile: 07976 234165
 


-Original Message-
From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 June 2003 18:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


Not me. I was press-ganged. Stupid frickin' British Navy.

-- 
be - MOS



Friends:  People who borrow my books and set wet glasses on them.


> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.
> 
> 
> Color me crazy then. I picked this life a while ago and would
> never look
> back.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Public Folder: Exchange]

I don't know what the deal is with this latest version of BugBear, but
it's really a problem.  

I started having issues with it on the 4th.  

The remote access and key logger are the scary parts of this worm.

I have had it get past two A/V scanners.  One on mail and one on
workstations.  I have double extensions blocked and all the usual
extensions too.

I recommend everyone be on alert for this one:

http://vil.nai.com/vil/content/v_100358.htm

http://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/virusencyclo/default5.asp?VName=PE_BUGBE
AR.B

-Kevin


> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Posted At: Friday, June 06, 2003 7:25 AM
> Posted To: Exchange
> Conversation: ScanMail missing tricks?
> Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?
> 
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever
> happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 
> 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
> BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox. 
>  A Manual scan
> showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had 
> apparently got
> through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I 
> just mentioned,
> which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive 
> and Sophos
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive
> at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have 
> sent the file to
> Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment 
> blocking was, I
> thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger 
> my users about
> the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> -- 
> Tim Gowen  
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Robert Moir]

Is the size of the attachment incorrect in the email that goes
undetected? 
 

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 June 2003 15:25
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> 
> A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which 
> doesn't ever happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I 
> have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
> SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and 
> yet this BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to 
> the Inbox.  A Manual scan showed up six other virus-infected 
> attachments which had apparently got through.  But the manual 
> scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned, which is now 
> in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos 
> AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.
> 
> Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if 
> several arrive at once, or is there another more likely 
> solution?  I have sent the file to Trend and Sophos to see 
> what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I thought, 
> non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users 
> about the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.
> 
> 
>   Tim
> 
> --
> Tim Gowen
> RAF Museum
> IT Dept.
>  
> 
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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[Roger Seielstad]

That can't stop forwards and printing. The Authentica product can.

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Sr. Systems Administrator
Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Nikki Peterson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:55 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Sending emails that can not be altered
> 
> 
> Send PDF...
> 
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> Available with E-Mail Integration: 1-Click Convert to PDF & Send! 
> Encryption Security, Watermark, PDF Table of Contents Generation, 
> Font Xmbedding, Hyperlink Conversion, Web Optimization & More! 
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-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Sent: 6/5/03 7:41 AM 
Subject: RE: Sending emails that can not be altered 

A company called Authentica makes a product called MailRecall that does 
pretty much that. It does indeed work, but it requires a bit of overhead 
and 
an additional client for both sender and recipient. 
http://www.authentica.com/products/secure_messaging/mailrecall.asp 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc. 

> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Sending emails that can not be altered 
> 
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here
> asked if there 
> is a way to send and email so that the content can not be 
> altered by the 
> recipient andf then forwarded on 

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RE: Real world experience

[Stephen Mynhier]

Just left an HP session at TechEd.  Although there were obviously
vendor-specified disclaimers, the speaker's verdict was pretty simple --
Clustering just isn't meant for Exchange.

Like asking a car manufacturer to fix that whole
smashing-when-you-drive-your-car-into-a-brick-wall sorta thing.  It's
not broke.  It's just not smart.

stemy


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:38 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: Real world experience
Subject: RE: Real world experience


 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot) 


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of
trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little
servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a
hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking
for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to
from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase
3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one
dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV
also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not
100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and
other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have
always
preferred to error on the side of you can never have too much power.  I
would like to hear from people using SAN's or the like to account for TB
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RE: ScanMail missing tricks?

[Bowles, John (OIG/OMP)]

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W. 202.690.6342
C.  202.359.7159
F.  202.690.7446
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  


-Original Message-
From: Tim Gowen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2003 10:25 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: ScanMail missing tricks?



A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which doesn't ever
happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox.  A Manual scan
showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had apparently got
through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned,
which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.

Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if several arrive
at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have sent the file to
Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I
thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users about
the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.


Tim

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ScanMail missing tricks?

[Tim Gowen]

A user got an infected attachment right to her Inbox, which doesn't ever
happen here since we started using ScanMail.  I have ScanMail 3.52 (Exch 5.5
SP4) blocking all the attachments on the List of Danger, and yet this
BUGBEAR.B file - QABACKUP.EXE.SCR - got through to the Inbox.  A Manual scan
showed up six other virus-infected attachments which had apparently got
through.  But the manual scan does not pick up the file I just mentioned,
which is now in my Deleted Items.  A copy is on my hard drive and Sophos
AntiVirus also doesn't detect it.

Is it possible that ScanMail misses out on some messages if several arrive
at once, or is there another more likely solution?  I have sent the file to
Trend and Sophos to see what they say, but the attachment blocking was, I
thought, non-negotiable and always works.  Luckily I badger my users about
the danger of attachments on a fairly regular basis.


Tim

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Mailbox Group

[Crumbaker, Ron]

I'm needing to setup a support type mailbox that when email is sent to
it, it will be delivered to a group of users here.  I know I can setup a
Group and have the address sent to those members. 

They would also like an auto-response sent to the sender stating that we
have received their request and someone will get back to them within 48
hours.

Is this possible?

Exchange 2000 SP3


Thank you,

Ron Crumbaker, MCP
PC Systems Administrator
MPD, Inc. - An Employee Owned Company
www.mpdinc.com
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RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

[Jasa, Ken]

 

http://www.microsoft.com/windows2000/technologies/directory/mms/default.asp#
section1
Ken


-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 1:37 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

But when it is out it will be available to the public?  I do not need to get
it from Microsoft Consulting Services?


Ryan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

Last I heard it wasn't avilable to end of summer

-Original Message-
From: Evensen, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2003 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003


I am trying to find MMS 2003, specifically the GAL sync tool.  I understand
MS has a standard version and an enterprise version.  I am looking for the
standard version.  Have not been able to find information on where to
acquire the tools.

We are in the process of setting up a test environment with 2 forests, each
with their own Exchange organization.  We will need to replicate address
lists between the organizations.  Hoping the GAL sync tool will allow this
replication.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Sam Evensen
Systems Engineer, Systems Services
Sunbeam


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RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

[Ryan Finnesey]

But when it is out it will be available to the public?  I do not need to
get it from Microsoft Consulting Services?


Ryan

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

Last I heard it wasn't avilable to end of summer

-Original Message-
From: Evensen, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2003 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003


I am trying to find MMS 2003, specifically the GAL sync tool.  I
understand
MS has a standard version and an enterprise version.  I am looking for
the
standard version.  Have not been able to find information on where to
acquire the tools.

We are in the process of setting up a test environment with 2 forests,
each
with their own Exchange organization.  We will need to replicate address
lists between the organizations.  Hoping the GAL sync tool will allow
this
replication.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Sam Evensen
Systems Engineer, Systems Services 
Sunbeam


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RE: Real world experience

[Robert Moir]

I don't think its a case of "Fixing" anything as much as Exchange server being a 
scenario where clustering generally offers a very poor return on the investment in 
time and money you spend setting one up and tweaking it. Quite a lot of errors I've 
seen with exchange relate to people doing stupid things and also to databases becoming 
corrupted. Neither problem is especially solvable with clustering.
 
This is true of clustering no matter what platform you are clustering on and what 
process you are trying to support with your cluster. Some things take to it like a 
duck to beer, other applications are downright hostile to clustering environments, and 
still more others don't give you much benefit from clustering one way or another 
because they require a lot of tuning to run on a cluster and that app's major weakness 
isn't something that is solved by a cluster.
 
Regards
Rob Moir

-Original Message- 
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thu 05/06/2003 17:38 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Cc: 
Subject: RE: Real world experience



 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot)


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase 3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not 100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have always
preferred to error on the side of you can never have too much power.  I
would like to hear from people using SAN's or the like to account for TB
size storage and backup. How close was the configuration load wizards to
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RE: Exchange 5.5

[Dflorea]

Use OWA, or bring her in via VPN.


-Original Message-
From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 6:13 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Exchange 5.5


What would be the best option if I had a person at work who works part
time brings in her laptop and wants to access her email from home via
outlook.  We have our own domain and mail server now and she cant use a
webmail type program gaining her email through our old ISP, is outlook
web
access  through exchange an option or can I get access easier via the
web
somehow to her email.
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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[Nikki Peterson]

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-Original Message- 
From: Roger Seielstad 
To: Exchange Discussions 
Sent: 6/5/03 7:41 AM 
Subject: RE: Sending emails that can not be altered 

A company called Authentica makes a product called MailRecall that does 
pretty much that. It does indeed work, but it requires a bit of overhead 
and 
an additional client for both sender and recipient. 
http://www.authentica.com/products/secure_messaging/mailrecall.asp 

-- 
Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP 
Sr. Systems Administrator 
Inovis Inc. 

> -Original Message- 
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM 
> To: Exchange Discussions 
> Subject: Sending emails that can not be altered 
> 
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here 
> asked if there 
> is a way to send and email so that the content can not be 
> altered by the 
> recipient andf then forwarded on 

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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[East, Bill]

-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

PGP and many other products will at least sign the email so that the
content cannot be changed without invalidating the signature. But
checking signatures requires a PGP client and is much too complicated
for many users. 

- -- 
be - MOS



On the road, ZIPPY is a pinhead without a purpose, but never without
a POINT.


> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sending emails that can not be altered
> 
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here 
> asked if there 
> is a way to send and email so that the content can not be 
> altered by the 
> recipient andf then forwarded on

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Version: PGP 8.0

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RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.

[East, Bill]

Not me. I was press-ganged. Stupid frickin' British Navy.

-- 
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Friends:  People who borrow my books and set wet glasses on them.


> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.
> 
> 
> Color me crazy then. I picked this life a while ago and would 
> never look
> back.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 


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Recipient unavailable

[Dflorea]

This is more of a curiousity - I attempted to send mail to several
addresses at unc.edu this morning, and I simply could not get mail there
from my mail server (Exch2K, W2K).  This is the error message:

*

 Subject:   Test
  Sent: 6/5/2003 9:27 AM

The following recipient(s) could not be reached:

  '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' on 6/5/2003 9:27 AM
You do not have permission to send to this recipient.  For
assistance, contact your system administrator.


*

I verified their e-mail addys were good, and even sent mail successfully
from a hotmail account.  I verified I'm not blocking that IP range, and
that they're not blocking my domain.

I do see our ISP's base range (208.187.x.x) is listed on a couple of
rather obscure RBL lists, but my mail server is not specifically listed
anywhere.  Further, I can telnet to their mail server at 152.2.1.243
successfully.

What could be the issue?


David

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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bridges, Samantha]

I can telnet to it from anywhere accept my Exchange server.  Arrrggghhh!



-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:51 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


0mail1.lc-ps.org (64.88.11.65) to be more exact.

At least that's what their MX record indicates as their primary mail server.

-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:46 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que



lc-ps.org

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


which server are you talking about?


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Wow...that's one messed up mail server.

It's not responding onscreen to any input, while letting you type in
anything you want, in any form you want.

I also couldn't disconnect from it.

However, I didn't find it on any RBL's.


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


What should they be looking for on their end?



-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to
> this school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Dandy, Jim]

That's odd.  I'm having the same problem with my local school district.
Last Friday I moved my Exchange Server outside my firewall and then mail
went through to the school district.  I moved it back inside and mail
continued to go through.  On Monday when I came in I was getting "host
unreachable" again.  I moved the server back outside the firewall and it
went through.  I moved it back inside the firewall and it has been working
since.  I don't know what's going on.  I don't see anything in my firewall
logs that indicate a blocked communication.  My server seems to be able to
communicate with everyone else just fine.  I too am looking for an answer to
this strange behavior.  I also have Exchange 5.5 SP4 but am running on NT 4.
The server I'm having trouble with is djusd.k12.ca.us (although it seems to
be working right now).

Curt Finley

> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
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> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the 
> messages to this school district are sitting in the 
> Quenever sending out.  I have no problems sending to any 
> other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Reply to bringing up wrong domain name.

[Woodruff, Michael]

Yeah, that is all good.  It is happening to a handfull of users who send
to this client. 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:45 PM
To: Exchange Discussions

Have you checked to see if the reply to address got changed on the users
account?

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Reply to bringing up wrong domain name.


We have one of our companies complaining that one of their clients are
having trouble replying to their email.  The client is saying when they
hit reply to an email they received from us, it changes the domain name
of their email address to one that is not one of their SMTP addresses.
Lets say their email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When the client replies
it automatically brings up [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now, works.com would be our
main domain name, but our users who are sending does not have this
domain as an SMTP address.  The client says they don't have any contacts
to pull this address from?  We are running E2k SP3.  Any ideas other
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RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.

[Les Bessant]

Mutter

Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
22-24 Grey Street
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Mobile: 07976 234165
 


-Original Message-
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Sent: 06 June 2003 10:36
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Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


and this comment coming from you!?!
:P

-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


I thought the Navy stopped doing that a century or two ago. You must be
older than your .sig looks

Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager
Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
22-24 Grey Street
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 6AD
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Mobile: 07976 234165
 


-Original Message-
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Sent: 05 June 2003 18:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


Not me. I was press-ganged. Stupid frickin' British Navy.

-- 
be - MOS



Friends:  People who borrow my books and set wet glasses on them.


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> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:40 AM
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> 
> 
> Color me crazy then. I picked this life a while ago and would never 
> look back.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

0mail1.lc-ps.org (64.88.11.65) to be more exact.

At least that's what their MX record indicates as their primary mail server.

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:46 AM
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Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que



lc-ps.org

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


which server are you talking about?


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Wow...that's one messed up mail server.

It's not responding onscreen to any input, while letting you type in
anything you want, in any form you want.

I also couldn't disconnect from it.

However, I didn't find it on any RBL's.


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


What should they be looking for on their end?



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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



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> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
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> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to
> this school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

lc-ps.org

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


which server are you talking about?


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Wow...that's one messed up mail server.

It's not responding onscreen to any input, while letting you type in
anything you want, in any form you want.

I also couldn't disconnect from it.

However, I didn't find it on any RBL's.


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


What should they be looking for on their end?



-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to 
> this school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Reply to bringing up wrong domain name.

[Matt Plahtinsky]

Have you checked to see if the reply to address got changed on the users
account?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Reply to bringing up wrong domain name.


We have one of our companies complaining that one of their clients are
having trouble replying to their email.  The client is saying when they
hit reply to an email they received from us, it changes the domain name
of their email address to one that is not one of their SMTP addresses.
Lets say their email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When the client replies
it automatically brings up [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now, works.com would be our
main domain name, but our users who are sending does not have this
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RE: Real world experience

[Hutchins, Mike]

Unnecessarily adding complexity to something that is complex enough.


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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:38 AM
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 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot) 


-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of
trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little
servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a
hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking
for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to
from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase
3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one
dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV
also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not
100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and
other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have
always
preferred to error on the side of you can never have too much power.  I
would like to hear from people using SAN's or the like to account for TB
size storage and backup. How close was the configuration load wizards to
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bridges, Samantha]

which server are you talking about?


-Original Message-
From: Blunt, James H (Jim) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 12:10 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Wow...that's one messed up mail server.

It's not responding onscreen to any input, while letting you type in
anything you want, in any form you want.

I also couldn't disconnect from it.

However, I didn't find it on any RBL's.


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


What should they be looking for on their end?



-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the
> messages to this
> school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Real world experience

[Finch Brett]

 You mean you don't believe MS has fixed this in Exchange2K3 ? :) Thanks

-Original Message-
From: Hutchins, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:12
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Real world experience


Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot) 


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase 3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV also
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RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.

[Keith.Hanna]

and this comment coming from you!?!
:P

-Original Message-
From: Les Bessant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 June 2003 22:36
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


I thought the Navy stopped doing that a century or two ago. You must be
older than your .sig looks

Les Bessant [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IT Manager
Sanderson Townend & Gilbert
22-24 Grey Street
Newcastle upon Tyne
NE1 6AD
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Mobile: 07976 234165
 


-Original Message-
From: East, Bill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 05 June 2003 18:40
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.


Not me. I was press-ganged. Stupid frickin' British Navy.

-- 
be - MOS



Friends:  People who borrow my books and set wet glasses on them.


> -Original Message-
> From: Roger Seielstad [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:40 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: RE: Recovery Help. Request made from a new Exchange Admin.
> 
> 
> Color me crazy then. I picked this life a while ago and would
> never look
> back.
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Roger D. Seielstad - MTS MCSE MS-MVP
> Sr. Systems Administrator
> Inovis Inc.
> 


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RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

[Keith.Hanna]

yes - the new version (3.0) will be a 'product' available in two flavours: std allows 
connectivity between 2 AD infrastructures; adv allows connectivity between different 
directory/database environments.
MCS are no longer required to provide this

I got this info from a TechNet briefing, so can't confirm/deny the accuracy, although 
have no reason to doubt it.
:)

-Original Message-
From: Ryan Finnesey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 05 June 2003 19:37
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003


But when it is out it will be available to the public?  I do not need to
get it from Microsoft Consulting Services?


Ryan

-Original Message-
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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 4:09 AM
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Subject: RE: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003

Last I heard it wasn't avilable to end of summer

-Original Message-
From: Evensen, Sam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 04 June 2003 15:04
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Microsoft Metadirectory Services 2003


I am trying to find MMS 2003, specifically the GAL sync tool.  I
understand
MS has a standard version and an enterprise version.  I am looking for
the
standard version.  Have not been able to find information on where to
acquire the tools.

We are in the process of setting up a test environment with 2 forests,
each
with their own Exchange organization.  We will need to replicate address
lists between the organizations.  Hoping the GAL sync tool will allow
this
replication.

Any help is appreciated.

Thanks,

Sam Evensen
Systems Engineer, Systems Services 
Sunbeam


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RE: Real world experience

[Hutchins, Mike]

Friends don't let friends cluster Exchange...


(Am I sounding a little repetitive here? I seem to say that alot) 


-Original Message-
From: Finch Brett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:47 AM
To: Exchange Discussions

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of
trying to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as
little servers as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and
probably a hybrid AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real
question is I am looking for real world experience with something
similar to what we are going to from a Exchange 2K shop. Essentially
we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase
3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one
dedicated server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really
the number cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external
storage (AV also has to be factored). All client stations will be on at
least 10 if not 100 switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have
gone to Dell and other places to run the traditional load 'configuration
wizard' and I have always preferred to error on the side of you can
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

Wow...that's one messed up mail server.

It's not responding onscreen to any input, while letting you type in
anything you want, in any form you want.

I also couldn't disconnect from it.

However, I didn't find it on any RBL's.


-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:50 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


What should they be looking for on their end?



-Original Message-
From: Bailey, Matthew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the
> messages to this
> school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Mailbox Rule - Send on Behalf

[Ray Beckwith]

For the rule, replace the "From [user]" criteria with "contains [text] in the message 
header and then put the name in the [text] position. This should catch even the "sent 
on behalf of" messages.



Thanks...Ray

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-Original Message-
From: Erik L. Vesneski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 11:02 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Mailbox Rule - Send on Behalf


Hi,

I receive multiple emails that are 'sent on behalf' of Data Center.  The
rule I have created never works.  I specifically must state who the
email is being sent from, in this case Brian Hale, for the rule to work.

This is the from the email:

From: Brian Hale On Behalf Of Data Center

My question is:
Can you create a rule that works even when the email is 'sent on behalf
of'?  Is there a better way to do this?  Perhaps this is a design
problem?  Has anyone else run into this issue and if so how did you work
around it?



Thank you,

Erik L. Vesneski
Sr. Systems Specialist
ISO - Intel Systems 
Ph#: 925-685-6161
www.pmigroup.com
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bridges, Samantha]

What should they be looking for on their end?



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Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:29 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the 
> messages to this
> school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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Real world experience

[Finch Brett]

 I will spare the gory 'political' details as we are in the midst of trying
to consolidate 35 '5.5' Exchange servers in 35 domains to as little servers
as possible. We're looking at an Exchange 2K3 rollout and probably a hybrid
AD using MS's meta directory (maybe). The real question is I am looking for
real world experience with something similar to what we are going to from a
Exchange 2K shop. Essentially we'll be looking at 5,000 users (.5 GB per
mailbox) to start with another 5,000 in phase 2 and 5,000 more in phase 3.
With a new 2K3 AD, we'll probably consider at least 2 DC's and one dedicated
server for OWA. The main mail servers and storage is really the number
cruncher. It's looking like a 3 server cluster and external storage (AV also
has to be factored). All client stations will be on at least 10 if not 100
switched lines, GB speed on the WAN backbone. I have gone to Dell and other
places to run the traditional load 'configuration wizard' and I have always
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bailey, Matthew]

Is the other mail server having a problem?

 - Matt



> -Original Message-
> From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 8:21 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
> 
> 
> Exchange 5.5 sp4
> Windows 2000 Advanced Server
> 
> When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the 
> messages to this
> school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  
> I have no
> problems sending to any other mailservers.  
> 
> Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?
> 
> Thanks as always,
> 
> Samantha
> 
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RE: Global Catalog and EX2K

[Pham, Tuan]

One side note and don't know if this got anything to do with GC.  I have two GCs in my 
site, and I have seen this happened yesterday, the client send an email to multiple 
recipients one of the recipient bounce back with undelivered message, but when resend 
it again, it went through.  

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:18 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Global Catalog and EX2K


*sigh* 2 minutes searching the microsoft website.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;272290

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pham, Tuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 05 June 2003 16:11
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Is it true that OL2K can't redirect to the new GC once the 
> current one assigned by DSAccess is unavailable?  I heard 
> that you have to restart OL in order to map the available 
> one.  If that the case then it's a big dis-advantage to the 
> clients, because what if I took down the one of the GC then 
> all clients have to restart their OL.  Can someone confirm 
> this for me please?   Thanks!
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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bridges, Samantha]

The error message on the messages in the Que are [EMAIL PROTECTED] [Host
Unreachable]

I am not sure if it is deaper than Exchange.  

-Original Message-
From: Neil Hobson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 11:30 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Cannot send mailstuck in Que



Depends on what error you see in the queue.  The normal one here is
'network error during host resolution' or something like that.  Try
doing an nslookup, and manually connecting via port 25 to the
destination server.

Neil

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Posted At: 05 June 2003 16:21
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server

When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to
this school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  I
have no problems sending to any other mailservers.  

Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?

Thanks as always,

Samantha

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RE: Two Unusual Outlook 2002 Problems

[Martin, Jon]

Chris,

Thanks for the reply. I did think of that and used the Windows Component
app to undo the IE Enhanced Security Configuration stuff, but it did not
resolve these problems. It would not surprise me to learn that there was
still something leftover that was causing these things.

Jon 


-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:53 PM
Posted To: exchange - new
Conversation: Two Unusual Outlook 2002 Problems
Subject: Re: Two Unusual Outlook 2002 Problems

in server 2003 a lot of IE is disabled by default. Could that have
something
to do with it? I know IE and Outlook share a lot of components.

- Original Message - 
From: "Martin, Jon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:59 PM
Subject: Two Unusual Outlook 2002 Problems


Recently I reconfigured my production workstation from scratch to
include:

- Windows 2003 Server Enterprise Edition; and
- Office XP with sp2

This replaces a Windows 2000 Advanced Server with Office 2000 SR-1.

Now I am getting two weird problems (so far) with Outlook 2002.

1. My ability to modify Outlook folder permissions now consists of
modifying the Default permissions, and adding users to the list of those
who have permissions. I cannot modify any permissions (except Default)
and I cannot delete users from the list of those who have permissions.
This is true of my individual mailbox folders, and also Public Folders.
Essentially, almost everything is grayed out.

2. Every time I go to modify the current view of a folder (like add a
field) using the View - Current View - Customize Current View etc.
routine I get a "Microsoft Outlook has encountered a problem and needs
to close. We are sorry for the inconvenience." message, after which
Outlook restarts. I can modify things by using the Field Chooser tool,
or by dragging fields off the board.

This is a pretty vanilla install; it has only been in production for two
days. If I go back to an Outlook 2000 install I have on another Windows
2000 box everything works normally.

Any ideas? Thanks . . .


Jon Martin

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RE: Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Neil Hobson]

Depends on what error you see in the queue.  The normal one here is
'network error during host resolution' or something like that.  Try
doing an nslookup, and manually connecting via port 25 to the
destination server.

Neil

-Original Message-
From: Bridges, Samantha [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 05 June 2003 16:21
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Cannot send mailstuck in Que
Subject: Cannot send mailstuck in Que


Exchange 5.5 sp4
Windows 2000 Advanced Server

When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to
this school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  I
have no problems sending to any other mailservers.  

Any ideas?  Where can I start to look?

Thanks as always,

Samantha

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Cannot send mail....stuck in Que

[Bridges, Samantha]

Exchange 5.5 sp4
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When trying to send mail to an outside school, I see the messages to this
school district are sitting in the Quenever sending out.  I have no
problems sending to any other mailservers.  

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RE: Global Catalog and EX2K

[Robert Moir]

*sigh* 2 minutes searching the microsoft website.
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;272290

> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Pham, Tuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 05 June 2003 16:11
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Is it true that OL2K can't redirect to the new GC once the 
> current one assigned by DSAccess is unavailable?  I heard 
> that you have to restart OL in order to map the available 
> one.  If that the case then it's a big dis-advantage to the 
> clients, because what if I took down the one of the GC then 
> all clients have to restart their OL.  Can someone confirm 
> this for me please?   Thanks!
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RE: Global Catalog and EX2K

[Pham, Tuan]

I wonder if there is a way to force OL2K to use DSAccess at all time.  That might 
solve the problem.

-Original Message-
From: Ken Cornetet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:16 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: RE: Global Catalog and EX2K


My experience seems to indicate that this is indeed true for OL2002 - I
assume OL2K is the same.

BTW, OL98 seems to not be able to switch GCs even after being restarted.


We recently un-GC'd a DC because we were having problems with it. All of
the OL2K clients that were using it had to be restarted. We eventually
had to re-GC it because our few remaining OL98 clients wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Pham, Tuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Global Catalog and EX2K


Is it true that OL2K can't redirect to the new GC once the current one
assigned by DSAccess is unavailable?  I heard that you have to restart
OL in order to map the available one.  If that the case then it's a big
dis-advantage to the clients, because what if I took down the one of the
GC then all clients have to restart their OL.  Can someone confirm this
for me please?   Thanks!

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RE: Global Catalog and EX2K

[Ken Cornetet]

My experience seems to indicate that this is indeed true for OL2002 - I
assume OL2K is the same.

BTW, OL98 seems to not be able to switch GCs even after being restarted.


We recently un-GC'd a DC because we were having problems with it. All of
the OL2K clients that were using it had to be restarted. We eventually
had to re-GC it because our few remaining OL98 clients wouldn't work.

-Original Message-
From: Pham, Tuan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 10:11 AM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Global Catalog and EX2K


Is it true that OL2K can't redirect to the new GC once the current one
assigned by DSAccess is unavailable?  I heard that you have to restart
OL in order to map the available one.  If that the case then it's a big
dis-advantage to the clients, because what if I took down the one of the
GC then all clients have to restart their OL.  Can someone confirm this
for me please?   Thanks!

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Reply to bringing up wrong domain name.

[Woodruff, Michael]

We have one of our companies complaining that one of their clients are
having trouble replying to their email.  The client is saying when they
hit reply to an email they received from us, it changes the domain name
of their email address to one that is not one of their SMTP addresses.
Lets say their email address is [EMAIL PROTECTED]  When the client replies
it automatically brings up [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Now, works.com would be our
main domain name, but our users who are sending does not have this
domain as an SMTP address.  The client says they don't have any contacts
to pull this address from?  We are running E2k SP3.  Any ideas other
than the contacts?  Thanks.

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Global Catalog and EX2K

[Pham, Tuan]

Is it true that OL2K can't redirect to the new GC once the current one assigned by 
DSAccess is unavailable?  I heard that you have to restart OL in order to map the 
available one.  If that the case then it's a big dis-advantage to the clients, because 
what if I took down the one of the GC then all clients have to restart their OL.  Can 
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RE: TechEd

[Blunt, James H (Jim)]

You're having a name resolution issue.

I used to have RPCbindback errors in my server logs all the time, only
rarely between the servers in my own site, but all the time between my
bridgehead and the bridgehead in the other site in our org.

I could do a ping via FQDN and an RPC ping, but I couldn't ping the server's
common name.  Our bridgehead and their bridgehead reside in different
domains...ours is bhi-erc.com, theirs is hanford.gov.  So...my fix was to go
into the TCP/IP properties of the network connection, go to the Advanced
settings, then DNS tab, and in the "Append these DNS suffixes box, I had to
reverse the order I had the domains...I had to put their domain first...do
the same on yours.  Put the other domain's FQDN in there.  Do the opposite
on the other end and reboot both servers...SHOULD do  the trick.

Hope that helps.

-Original Message-
From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:46 PM
To: Exchange Discussions
Subject: Re: TechEd


If I can do a successful rpc ping and normal ping; which I can; I would
think routing would be okay; but obviously something is amiss . . .

- Original Message - 
From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:44 PM
Subject: RE: TechEd


But IF the HOSTS file has been modified, then ping could work and 5.5
routing could fail.

-Original Message-
From: William Lefkovics [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 5:37 PM
Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
Conversation: TechEd
Subject: Re: TechEd


These are in the same site.
They can ping each other (was that by FQDN?) and have RPC communication
confirmed.


- Original Message -
From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 2:40 PM
Subject: RE: TechEd


> I just left that room... Slam packed and my feet were falling asleep.  
> Had
to get up and move around
> I'll be coming back down in a min for the next session... I'll be the 
> one
wearing the grey PSS "Superior Kung Fu" shirt...
>
> Yeah, DNS is first suspect.  If its 5.5 then I'd put a HOSTS file in 
> place
on each one (to be certain to eliminate DNS, which is not 5.5's first method
of name resolution).  What are the exact error codes within the events?
>
> stemy
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:42 PM
> Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> Conversation: TechEd
> Subject: Re: TechEd
>
>
> Anyone care to lend help to a frustrated admin here at tech ed? all of 
> a sudden 2 of my exchange boxes stopped talking to each other; no
changes on either box. One here and one in the UK.
> both MTA queues are filling up and not transferring mail. both event 
> logs have numerous event id 9318 and 9322 but all the queue
articles I can find dont apply.
> All are in DNS
> Both can ping and rping each other consistently . . . .map drives, 
> etc. i
have rebooted one in Uk since they are gone.
>
> any ideas?
> VERY frustrating and all the "experts I can ask" are gone! :(
>
> TIA
>
> Chris
>
> - Original Message -
> From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:10 PM
> Subject: RE: TechEd
>
>
> > No, it's wired, but definitely not a shining example of performance
gains
> with properly implemented MS technologies...
> > Takes about 2 minutes to log onto these boxes here at TechEd's 
> > internet
> café.  Sometimes, I can connect to IM... Sometimes not Sometimes I 
> can TS to my box at home... Sometimes not...  We need to to sacrifice 
> whoever implemented the network here to please CJ
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:38 PM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: TechEd
> > Subject: RE: TechEd
> >


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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[Roger Seielstad]

A company called Authentica makes a product called MailRecall that does
pretty much that. It does indeed work, but it requires a bit of overhead and
an additional client for both sender and recipient.
http://www.authentica.com/products/secure_messaging/mailrecall.asp


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> -Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Thursday, June 05, 2003 9:39 AM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Sending emails that can not be altered
> 
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here 
> asked if there 
> is a way to send and email so that the content can not be 
> altered by the 
> recipient andf then forwarded on
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RE: TechEd

[Roger Seielstad]

Two questions:
1. Was that talk given by Donald Livingood?
2. If Yes, did he discuss Elvis routing?

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> -Original Message-
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:53 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: TechEd
> 
> 
> right now I am in the exchange transport lecture in the 
> ultra-crowded D171-175 which has been packed to the gills for 
> every exchange session :(
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "William Lefkovics" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:49 PM
> Subject: Re: TechEd
> 
> 
> > http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;257679 ?
> >
> > Where are you by the way?
> >
> >
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Chris H" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 1:41 PM
> > Subject: Re: TechEd
> >
> >
> > Anyone care to lend help to a frustrated admin here at tech 
> ed? all of 
> > a sudden 2 of my exchange boxes stopped talking to each other; no 
> > changes on either box. One here and one in the UK. both MTA 
> queues are 
> > filling up and not transferring mail. both event logs have numerous 
> > event id 9318 and 9322 but all the queue articles I can find dont 
> > apply. All are in DNS
> > Both can ping and rping each other consistently . . . .map 
> drives, etc. i
> > have rebooted one in Uk since they are gone.
> >
> > any ideas?
> > VERY frustrating and all the "experts I can ask" are gone! :(
> >
> > TIA
> >
> > Chris
> >
> > - Original Message -
> > From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:10 PM
> > Subject: RE: TechEd
> >
> >
> > > No, it's wired, but definitely not a shining example of 
> performance
> gains
> > with properly implemented MS technologies...
> > > Takes about 2 minutes to log onto these boxes here at TechEd's 
> > > internet
> > café.  Sometimes, I can connect to IM... Sometimes not 
> Sometimes I 
> > can TS to my box at home... Sometimes not...  We need to to 
> sacrifice 
> > whoever implemented the network here to please CJ
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:38 PM
> > > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > > Conversation: TechEd
> > > Subject: RE: TechEd
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahhh.. Atmospherics?  You working on Wireless there?
> > >
> > > John Matteson
> > > Geac Corporate ISS
> > > (404) 239 - 2981
> > > Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At:
> Wednesday,
> > June 04, 2003 12:59 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > > Conversation: TechEd
> > > Subject: RE: TechEd
> > >
> > >
> > > No idea... It wasn't there when I typed it
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:55 AM
> > > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > > Conversation: TechEd
> > > Subject: RE: TechEd
> > >
> > >
> > > What's all the garbage at the end of your post?
> > >
> > > Looks like the teletype when the crypto looses synch.
> > >
> > > John Matteson
> > > Geac Corporate ISS
> > > (404) 239 - 2981
> > > Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Mynhier, Stephen - contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > > Posted
> > At: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:11 PM Posted To: Exchange 
> Discussion List
> > > Conversation: TechEd
> > > Subject: TechEd
> > >
> > >
> > > Who else is here?
> > >
> > > stemy
> > > .+--x
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RE: TechEd

[Roger Seielstad]

That's either name resolution or network related. And just because they can
ping doesn't mean there's enough free network bandwidth to support the
connection, either.

You didn't mention if they are local or not, and how they are connected, but
I'd suggest restarting the MTA service on both servers and see what the
result it.


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Inovis Inc.


> -Original Message-
> From: Chris H [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 4:42 PM
> To: Exchange Discussions
> Subject: Re: TechEd
> 
> 
> Anyone care to lend help to a frustrated admin here at tech 
> ed? all of a sudden 2 of my exchange boxes stopped talking to 
> each other; no changes on either box. One here and one in the 
> UK. both MTA queues are filling up and not transferring mail. 
> both event logs have numerous event id 9318 and 9322 but all 
> the queue articles I can find dont apply. All are in DNS Both 
> can ping and rping each other consistently . . . .map drives, 
> etc. i have rebooted one in Uk since they are gone.
> 
> any ideas?
> VERY frustrating and all the "experts I can ask" are gone! :(
> 
> TIA
> 
> Chris
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Stephen Mynhier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "Exchange Discussions" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:10 PM
> Subject: RE: TechEd
> 
> 
> > No, it's wired, but definitely not a shining example of performance 
> > gains
> with properly implemented MS technologies...
> > Takes about 2 minutes to log onto these boxes here at TechEd's 
> > internet
> café.  Sometimes, I can connect to IM... Sometimes not 
> Sometimes I can TS to my box at home... Sometimes not...  We 
> need to to sacrifice whoever implemented the network here to please CJ
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 3:38 PM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: TechEd
> > Subject: RE: TechEd
> >
> >
> > Ahhh.. Atmospherics?  You working on Wireless there?
> >
> > John Matteson
> > Geac Corporate ISS
> > (404) 239 - 2981
> > Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Stephen Mynhier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Posted At: 
> > Wednesday,
> June 04, 2003 12:59 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: TechEd
> > Subject: RE: TechEd
> >
> >
> > No idea... It wasn't there when I typed it
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Posted At: Wednesday, June 04, 2003 10:55 AM
> > Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: TechEd
> > Subject: RE: TechEd
> >
> >
> > What's all the garbage at the end of your post?
> >
> > Looks like the teletype when the crypto looses synch.
> >
> > John Matteson
> > Geac Corporate ISS
> > (404) 239 - 2981
> > Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Mynhier, Stephen - contractor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> > Posted
> At: Monday, June 02, 2003 4:11 PM Posted To: Exchange Discussion List
> > Conversation: TechEd
> > Subject: TechEd
> >
> >
> > Who else is here?
> >
> > stemy
> > .+--x
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> > iǡ)͙l+-r rW{jx5m^zx%
> > S &ޙ^jǞZ 2G(L\xฬfyb֝) )
> > .
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> > .+--x
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> > iǡ)͙l+-r rW{jx5m^zx%
> > S &ޙ^jǞZ 2G(L\xฬfyb֝) )
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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[Neil Hobson]

Indeed.  However, Lotus Notes has a fabulous solution to this problem,
as Notes can prevent messages from being forwarded on, etc.  To invoke
this solution, you simply click the 'Enable Bull$hit Security'[1] tick
box.

Neil

[1] To coin an Ed C phrase

-Original Message-
From: Robert Moir [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Posted At: 05 June 2003 15:01
Posted To: Swynk Exchange List
Conversation: Sending emails that can not be altered
Subject: RE: Sending emails that can not be altered


-Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 05 June 2003 14:39
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here asked if 
> there is a way to send and email so that the content can not be 
> altered by the recipient andf then forwarded on

Not at all. If worse comes to pass a malicious person could copy the
email out longhand from one window to another, format it to make it look
forwarded (yes the headers wouldn't be quite right but who amoung your
user community looks at those?) and send it on. Sure it wouldn't be the
original email but the damage would be done because I presume what you
really want to protect is the content of these emails, not the random
collection of bits and bytes that were scraped together to take the
content out of the author's mind and put it on screen.

--
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
Senior IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
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RE: Outlook web access

[Robert Moir]

> -Original Message-
> From: Jason [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 06 June 2003 06:41
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Have recently set up outlook web access and set the config 
> for a user and the http details, but having trouble loging in 
> via a browser, not sure if I have missed a step. Does the 
> users actual PC have to be set up to log on correctly?. What 
> is the format for the url for the user?. Bit confused with 
> it, we have just set up our own mail server with exchange 
> 5.5. and have a user wanting to get their emails externally.

Ok,
First of all, there is a damn good step by step FAQ for OWA on Exchange
5.5 in the FAQ for this mailing list. Were you following that? Have you
checked it to see if it highlights a step you've missed?

Have you allowed the target users the log in locally right on the box
running OWA?

If you need more help, you might consider specifying what "trouble
logging in via a browser" actually means - a description of what happens
exactly when you try, what error messages you get (full message text
please!) and what, if anything, you found when checking the event logs
on the OWA machine for the times you attempted login can work wonders
for our ability to help!

-- 
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
Senior IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
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RE: Sending emails that can not be altered

[Robert Moir]

-Original Message-
> From: Tony Hlabse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 05 June 2003 14:39
> To: Exchange Discussions
> 
> Due to Martha's problems with altering emails. Someone here 
> asked if there is a way to send and email so that the content 
> can not be altered by the recipient andf then forwarded on

Not at all. If worse comes to pass a malicious person could copy the
email out longhand from one window to another, format it to make it look
forwarded (yes the headers wouldn't be quite right but who amoung your
user community looks at those?) and send it on. Sure it wouldn't be the
original email but the damage would be done because I presume what you
really want to protect is the content of these emails, not the random
collection of bits and bytes that were scraped together to take the
content out of the author's mind and put it on screen.

-- 
Robert Moir
Microsoft MVP
Senior IT Systems Engineer
Luton Sixth Form College
print chr(66) & chr(79) & chr(70) & chr(72)


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