RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

2002-01-15 Thread ONG Liang Bu (CSC)

Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day.
Thanks for all the expert advise.  Have done these
a couple of times without knowing need to check
whether the transaction logs are committed.

This is the first time I read abt this.  Lucky I 
did not lost any thing in the past.

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


There are several, this one isn't bad.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


Interesting, do you know what technet article?
I am curious to read its explanation.
I still wouldn't do it, but just curious!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point
and
not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to
work
out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. 

Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if
available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this
volume
which can be moved or compressed? 
 
Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you
backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a
better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If
those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you
removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous!

Hey William...

jlc

-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log
building up.  You need to remove some log files manually.  Move all log
files before today.  I assumed any transaction log older than today have
been committed to the Information Stores.  Be careful don't touch these
3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log.  Don't know what these is but saw
it since the day Exchange is installed.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5


We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a
while back.  Anyway, the information store won't start up because it
says
the transaction logs are too full.  I re-enabled circular logging, but
the
information store still won't start.  Any ideas?

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RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

2002-01-15 Thread Joe L. Casale

I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I
would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would
you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not
even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly
designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even
attempt such a thing!

Just my thoughts..

Jlc



-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day.
Thanks for all the expert advise.  Have done these
a couple of times without knowing need to check
whether the transaction logs are committed.

This is the first time I read abt this.  Lucky I 
did not lost any thing in the past.

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


There are several, this one isn't bad.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


Interesting, do you know what technet article?
I am curious to read its explanation.
I still wouldn't do it, but just curious!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point
and
not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to
work
out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. 

Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if
available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this
volume
which can be moved or compressed? 
 
Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you
backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a
better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If
those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you
removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous!

Hey William...

jlc

-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log
building up.  You need to remove some log files manually.  Move all log
files before today.  I assumed any transaction log older than today have
been committed to the Information Stores.  Be careful don't touch these
3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log.  Don't know what these is but saw
it since the day Exchange is installed.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5


We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a
while back.  Anyway, the information store won't start up because it
says
the transaction logs are too full.  I re-enabled circular logging, but
the
information store still won't start.  Any ideas?

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RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

2002-01-15 Thread ONG Liang Bu (CSC)

The server is properly designed with the logs on its own
partition.  Just at the moment when the Information Store
stops and the event viewer says the drive where transaction
logs sits are full, a few of us just stop thinking.
Rushing through the Technet article and one article suggest
this and we just go ahead.

After this when the second time happens we just proceed as 
usual without suspecting anything.  Never come across the 
article mentioned by Marty Richards.

In this line everyday is a learning.  Even something you\
thought you knew turned up to be wrong.

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I
would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would
you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not
even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly
designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even
attempt such a thing!

Just my thoughts..

Jlc



-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day.
Thanks for all the expert advise.  Have done these
a couple of times without knowing need to check
whether the transaction logs are committed.

This is the first time I read abt this.  Lucky I 
did not lost any thing in the past.

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


There are several, this one isn't bad.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


Interesting, do you know what technet article?
I am curious to read its explanation.
I still wouldn't do it, but just curious!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point
and
not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to
work
out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. 

Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if
available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this
volume
which can be moved or compressed? 
 
Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you
backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a
better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If
those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you
removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous!

Hey William...

jlc

-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log
building up.  You need to remove some log files manually.  Move all log
files before today.  I assumed any transaction log older than today have
been committed to the Information Stores.  Be careful don't touch these
3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log.  Don't know what these is but saw
it since the day Exchange is installed.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5


We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a
while back.  Anyway, the information store won't start up because it
says
the transaction logs are too full.  I re-enabled circular logging, but
the
information store still won't start.  Any ideas?

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RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

2002-01-15 Thread Marty Richards

Exchange wisdom once held that the logs should be on a fat partition due to
the sequential access speed. Nowadays faster hardware compensates nicely so
its not as important, but there are plenty of legacy servers with the old
configuration.

If you lose the transaction logs the information store usually becomes
inconsistent and the info store service refuses to start with a service
specific error message. Nasty stuff. Sometimes you can jig it with eseutil,
but that works by deleting the invalid pages and causes definite data
losses. 

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I
would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would
you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not
even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly
designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even
attempt such a thing!

Just my thoughts..

Jlc



-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day.
Thanks for all the expert advise.  Have done these
a couple of times without knowing need to check
whether the transaction logs are committed.

This is the first time I read abt this.  Lucky I 
did not lost any thing in the past.

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


There are several, this one isn't bad.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


Interesting, do you know what technet article?
I am curious to read its explanation.
I still wouldn't do it, but just curious!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point
and
not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to
work
out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. 

Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if
available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this
volume
which can be moved or compressed? 
 
Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you
backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a
better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If
those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you
removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous!

Hey William...

jlc

-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log
building up.  You need to remove some log files manually.  Move all log
files before today.  I assumed any transaction log older than today have
been committed to the Information Stores.  Be careful don't touch these
3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log.  Don't know what these is but saw
it since the day Exchange is installed.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5


We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a
while back.  Anyway, the information store won't start up because it
says
the transaction logs are too full.  I re-enabled circular logging, but
the
information store still won't start.  Any ideas?

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2002-01-15 Thread Saeed Ahmed

Hi!

i am setting up news server on my exchange 2000. when i set moderated 
option on newsgroup property i do get posted messages in email to
administrator. But the question is that how do i approve these messages so
that they are posted on the newsgroup??

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RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

2002-01-15 Thread Joe L. Casale

Yea, I have a bad taste in my mouth left from my first days with
exchange. I pulled a move so freakin dumb, I lost a lot of mail, that I
didn't recover. Now I am so paranoid, I read constantly, and never
attempt anything critical without refreshing my notes! Anyway, just cuz
MS has kb article on any technique, I am still using my own judgment.
You guys are right, everyday is a learning experience when it comes to
computers!

jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:37 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Exchange wisdom once held that the logs should be on a fat partition due
to
the sequential access speed. Nowadays faster hardware compensates nicely
so
its not as important, but there are plenty of legacy servers with the
old
configuration.

If you lose the transaction logs the information store usually becomes
inconsistent and the info store service refuses to start with a service
specific error message. Nasty stuff. Sometimes you can jig it with
eseutil,
but that works by deleting the invalid pages and causes definite data
losses. 

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:27 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I
would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would
you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not
even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly
designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even
attempt such a thing!

Just my thoughts..

Jlc



-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day.
Thanks for all the expert advise.  Have done these
a couple of times without knowing need to check
whether the transaction logs are committed.

This is the first time I read abt this.  Lucky I 
did not lost any thing in the past.

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


There are several, this one isn't bad.

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751

Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


Interesting, do you know what technet article?
I am curious to read its explanation.
I still wouldn't do it, but just curious!
jlc

-Original Message-
From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point
and
not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to
work
out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. 

Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if
available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this
volume
which can be moved or compressed? 
 
Cheers,
Marty

-Original Message-
From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5


I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you
backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a
better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If
those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you
removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous!

Hey William...

jlc

-Original Message-
From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5

Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log
building up.  You need to remove some log files manually.  Move all log
files before today.  I assumed any transaction log older than today have
been committed to the Information Stores.  Be careful don't touch these
3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log.  Don't know what these is but saw
it since the day Exchange is installed.

-Original Message-
From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5


We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a
while back.  Anyway, the information store won't start up because it
says
the transaction logs are too full.  I re-enabled circular logging, but
the
information store still won't start.  Any ideas?


permissions problems!!

2002-01-15 Thread kieran fitzgerald

Whilst playing with my permissions on my ex2k server, I managed to deny
'everyone' access to the one server in our site.  Obviously without
thinking that it would lock out the users who were explicitly granted
access!!
Hence I now have a dead exchange server. Does anyone know how to help?
Thought I may have to use adsi edit or the like to sort it out... but
not sure.
Thanks in advance
Kieran Fitzgerald



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RE: unhold

2002-01-15 Thread Bob Fronk \(BTR Technologies, Inc\)








Id like to continue holding.












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Re: unhold

2002-01-15 Thread John Allhiser



Press the red button first, then the flashing 
one.

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  From: 
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  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:44 
  AM
  Subject: unhold
  
  
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Re: unhold

2002-01-15 Thread John Allhiser



Press the red button first, then the flashing 
one.

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  To: MS-Exchange Admin 
  Issues 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:44 
  AM
  Subject: unhold
  
  
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RE: Outlook Error

2002-01-15 Thread Snook, Kevin S (ITD)

The quick way, right?

Re-resolve the profile by re-typing the server in the Profile screen.

If not,

1) Fire up regedit and find \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WIndows
NT\Current Version\Windows Messaging Subsystem\Profiles\YOURPROFILENAME
(this will change if your using Windows 9*)
2) You will have to look at each subkey and find any that have the 001e3006
marked as Microsoft Exchange Server and 001e3001 will contain the name of
the additional mailbox
3) Remove this subkey.



Kevin


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From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 January 2002 14:28
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook Error


Ok, I am running into a problem, that I don't know how to solve.  When I
open Outlook I have it set to open up the PostMaster's mailbox.  Now from
time to time I have to open up another users mailbox while using my profile.
So I will go to servers and click on properties of Microsoft Exchange
Server, click on advanced and add an the additional mailbox to mine.  When I
am finished with the work that I need to do I go back into services and
remove it.  For some reason after a day or too, I see that it still is
opening the mailbox up, but it isn't listed in the additional mailboxes
portion of my profile.  How do I get this out without having to recreate my
profile?

Chris

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RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions

2002-01-15 Thread pribbons
Title: Message



Thanks 
guys for your thoughts. We'll be following your suggestions to not 
put OWA in the DMZ and will look into both URLScan and IISLockdown as well as 
SecureIIS.

cheers,

Patrick Ribbons

  -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: January 14, 2002 5:32 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and 
  Exchange 5.5 questions
  it 
  is an option.. however be aware this version is very IIS patch aware. If 
  you're not running the latest, most current patches, you might run into more 
  trouble that you wish you hadn't. I found problems in my testing as we have 
  sites that are not on the most current patches(yet).
  
  Nice 
  thing about SECUREIIS is that it doesn't care... you didn't even need any 
  patches if you don't want too.. We do.. but the eEye engine doesn't really 
  care.. It's already guarded against those vulnerabilities.
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, 
  William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 
  14, 2002 1:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions
  Neat!
  
  Also 
  for E2K:
  http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309677
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Dan Yarrow 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:56 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and 
  Exchange 5.5 questions
  That 
  areticle seems to be posted after the original versions. In the install 
  of ver 2 its simply an option you select for "Microsoft Exchange OWA 
  system"
  
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 
07:49To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA 
and Exchange 5.5 questions

Just be 
aware:
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309508


-Original 
Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 
1:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, 
OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions
On 
your OWA server?


-Original Message-From: Dan Yarrow 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:46 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA 
and Exchange 5.5 questions
o you could just use URLScan and IISLockdown 
from Microsoft for nothing.. :)

  -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 
  07:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, 
  OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions
  100% agree with Mr. William.. 
  I also recommend a product for IIS called SECUREIIS by 
  eEye.com. It works very well with IIS 4.0/5.0 and protects against 
  virtually any DOS/Hack attacks. Costs about $800 per server, and very 
  reasonable for what it does. MS is looking at it as well. Between that, 
  SSL and a Firewall you can be assured you're very well protected... Only 
  thing better would be Apache on OpenBSD, but that's another 
  can-o-worms.
  -Rick -Original 
  Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:55 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions 
  You don't really gain anything putting the OWA part in the 
  DMZ. OWA acts as what I call "MAPI-by-proxy" so the number of holes 
  you need to punch in the internal firewall basically denigrates your 
  DMZ.
  William 
  -Original Message- From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: DMZ, 
  OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions 
  greetings 
  Has anyone set up OWA in a DMZ, where the server that OWA 
  resides on is not part of the domain on the internal network? Is 
  this possible? We're using NT 4 with Exchange 5.5, latest sp for 
  those versions.
  We're in the process of scoping out whether this can be 
  done and have been looking through technet, Slipstick, Swynk and a few 
  other sites but haven't really found the answer.
  tia for any input or guidance. 
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MSExchange Pop3 Interface error

2002-01-15 Thread Scott Oliver

Group,

My Exchange 5.5, NT 4.0 server froze on me Friday.  I am
tying to figure out what it was that caused this.  I ran across this error
in the event log and I am not sure what it means.  I tried searching for
this on the Microsoft's Exchange Support but had no luck.  Anyone have a
clue?


Event Type: Error
Event Source:   MSExchange Pop3 Interface
Event Category: Configuration 
Event ID:   13008
Date:   1/11/2002
Time:   6:19:13 PM
User:   N/A
Computer:   Lizmail
Description:
A FormatMessage operation for message 0xfbd3 failed.  Returning NULL. 





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Liz Claiborne Shoes
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Microsoft Exchange Administrator



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RE: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error

2002-01-15 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: RE: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error





Try this website: http://www.eventid.net/events.asp


Look up your event ID and it should give you some more information.


-Original Message-
From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:24 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error



Group,


  My Exchange 5.5, NT 4.0 server froze on me Friday. I am tying to figure out what it was that caused this. I ran across this error in the event log and I am not sure what it means. I tried searching for this on the Microsoft's Exchange Support but had no luck. Anyone have a clue?


Event Type: Error
Event Source: MSExchange Pop3 Interface
Event Category: Configuration 
Event ID: 13008
Date:  1/11/2002
Time:  6:19:13 PM
User:  N/A
Computer: Lizmail
Description:
A FormatMessage operation for message 0xfbd3 failed. Returning NULL. 






Scott Oliver
Liz Claiborne Shoes
Computer Operations Supervisor
Microsoft Exchange Administrator




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Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread Cardona, Cris








What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem?



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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread bill . higgins



Start 
by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc.

And 
what is the problem

  -Original Message-From: Cardona, Cris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 07:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Where do 
  I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
  
  What to do to troubleshoot a 
  redundant messaging problem?
  
  Cris 
  Cardona
  Exchange 
  Administrator
  Clear Channel 
  Worldwide
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Open relay

2002-01-15 Thread mark verschaeve
Title: Open relay





Hi all,


I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay.
I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail.
I don't have the need to route to another server or so.
It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but...


I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4
Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server.


Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open.


Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings?


Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!!



Mark Verschaeve,
IT-manager
Mortier NV



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RE: Open relay

2002-01-15 Thread Joe Heaton
Title: Open relay



I just 
solved this same problem. Set your routing to route incoming SMTP, 
to your domain. Then, go to routing restrictions, and select the box that 
says only users that have authenticated. Then, in Outlook, under the 
properties for any POP accounts you have, select the box that says the outgoing 
server requires authentication, and set the authentication account to the same 
as the network login. Hope this helps. It worked for 
me.


Joseph L. Heaton, MCSE NT Administrator FDI Consulting, 
Inc. 1610 Arden Way, Suite 145 
Sacramento, CA 95815 (916)921-4390 x.228 

  -Original Message-From: mark verschaeve 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  7:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open 
  relay
  Hi all, 
  I have a problem that my exchange server 
  is on open relay. I already tried 
  several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send 
  spam mail. I don't have the need 
  to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest 
  configuration, but... 
  I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 
  SP4 Also I have mails essentials 
  installed on the same server. 
  Even when i set routing to don't reroute 
  I'm still open. 
  Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can 
  someone give me the exact settings? 
  Thanks a lot, because we where spammed 
  twice already!!! 
  Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Pop3 Configuration

2002-01-15 Thread Alan Osborne

Is it possible to configure a 5.5 server to allow clients to login to server
via Pop3 without the extra login information.  

Example :

assembly/mip01/alan.osborne  -  Current Way

alan.osborne - The login ID I want.


Thanks, 

Alan Osborne

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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread Cardona, Cris









Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5.





Cris Cardona

Exchange Administrator

Clear Channel Worldwide

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(W) 210.258.3753 (F)
210.258.3701





-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where do I Start
Troubleshooting Redundant Messages





Start by telling us what
OS, Mail Server, etc.











And what is the problem





-Original Message-
From: Cardona, Cris
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
Redundant Messages

What to do to troubleshoot a
redundant messaging problem?



Cris Cardona

Exchange Administrator

Clear Channel Worldwide

[EMAIL PROTECTED]

(W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701



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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread bill . higgins



And 
you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a 
lot of things

  -Original Message-From: Cardona, Cris 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 08:03To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Where 
  do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
  
  Well it's on W2k 
  Exchange 
  5.5.
  
  
  Cris 
  Cardona
  Exchange 
  Administrator
  Clear Channel 
  Worldwide
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 
  210.258.3701
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 9:48 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Where do I Start 
  Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
  
  
  Start by 
  telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc.
  
  
  
  And what 
  is the problem
  
-Original 
Message-From: Cardona, 
Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
2002 07:41To: MS-Exchange Admin 
IssuesSubject: Where do I 
Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
What to do to troubleshoot a 
redundant messaging problem?

Cris 
Cardona
Exchange 
Administrator
Clear Channel 
Worldwide
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(W) 210.258.3753 (F) 
210.258.3701

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RE: Open relay

2002-01-15 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: Message



Mark,

It's 
Mail Essentials causing the problem. I have the same setup on my Exchange 
server with Mail Essentials. 

We 
we're using a third party service that we were paying a monthly fee for to 
prevent us being used as an open relay, and mgmt made the decision to 
discontinue that. When I did, we were open for relay and I and another 
exchange admin spent days working on it, going through every tech net article we 
could find from MS, and were beginning to doubt our ability to read and follow 
the directions in the articles. We ended up making a $250.00 call to MS 
support and when the tech telnetted into my exchange server to look at it.he 
found that Mail Essentials was actually acting as the incoming mail gateway, not 
exchange, and that it was allowing everything to come in.I believe that 
there are settings in Mail Essentials that will prevent mail relay, but since we 
wanted it locked down immediately and not risk any more time being open to relay 
and decided that we would continue with our third party solution for now. 
You shouldcontact GFI and get help from their tech support on what to do 
in Mail Essentials to prevent relaying, I've always had wonderful technical 
support from them when I've contacted them.

Good 
luck,
Sherry

  
  -Original Message-From: mark verschaeve 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  9:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open 
  relay
  Hi all, 
  I have a problem that my exchange server 
  is on open relay. I already tried 
  several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send 
  spam mail. I don't have the need 
  to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest 
  configuration, but... 
  I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 
  SP4 Also I have mails essentials 
  installed on the same server. 
  Even when i set routing to don't reroute 
  I'm still open. 
  Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can 
  someone give me the exact settings? 
  Thanks a lot, because we where spammed 
  twice already!!! 
  Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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Event ID: 9188 is driving me nuts

2002-01-15 Thread Albert Vasquez



Okay, 
I have an Exchange 2000 server running on a Windows 2000 advanced server (no 
cluster) and as I check My event logs I find the following error in my App log: 


Event Type:ErrorEvent 
Source:MSExchangeSAEvent Category:General Event 
ID:9188Date:1/15/2002Time:9:42:31 
AMUser:N/AComputer:host 
nameDescription:Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to 
read the membership of group 'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=*,dc=*,dc=com'. 
Error code '8007203a'. 

Please check whether the local 
computer is a member of the group. If it is not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange 
services, add the local computer into the group manually and restart all the 
services. 

For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
Now, I will inform youas for the rest of my logs 
everythingis coming up "BLUE" =). While I have perused the link 
associated with this error I kindly get redirected to a MSdoc page that displays 
the ever so wonderful "
Exchange 2000 Server Event and Error 
Messages
Unfortunately, at this time there is no 
information available for Source:MSExchangeSA, 
EventID:9188."
While I found 
this to be disappointing I followed up by searching Technet and the MS knowledge 
base,I was pleased to find two Q articles Q260914 and Q294176 that has 
somehow shed some light on the subject. 
Q260914 - 

CAUSE
"This problem can occur because Setup 
searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if they are 
not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups do not 
exist." 
Oh, 
butthey do exist I am looking right at them. 
STATUS
"Microsoft has confirmed this to be a 
problem in Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server."
OK, so 
what do I do?I received NO errors while running Forest prep or domain prep 
and while this seems to affect public folder publishing in AD i.e 
:
Event 
Type:WarningEvent Source:MSExchangeISEvent 
Category:General Event 
ID:9543Date:1/15/2002Time:9:43:11 
AMUser:N/AComputer:host 
nameDescription:"Unable to create Public Folder proxy object for folder 
"OAB Version 2" in the Active Directory." 
This 
message is only getting displayed as a result of the 9188 error. The funny thing 
is that aside from the messages Exchange is working and is showing no outward 
affects or problem as of yet.
Help! 
this is driving me nuts!
Thanks 
and regards
AlV
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Directory Service Mailbox

2002-01-15 Thread Dave Vantine

Exh 5.5 Sp4 on NT4.0 sp6a

I recently came across an article about cleaning the Directory Service
mailbox and thought I would examine it and see if it needed to be cleaned.
In following the instructions, I opened the Admin program in raw mode and
opened the mailbox resources folder under the private information store but
find no Directory Service mailbox. I do see the System Attendant Mailbox and
the IMS mailbox which seem to be special hidden mailboxes like the DS
mailbox mentioned in the article. 

This has not seemed to effect our exchange server as there are no errors and
everything seems to be working fine. Is my exchange missing something or
am I looking for something that does not really exist.

Thanks
-Dave Vantine

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RE: Event ID: 9188 is driving me nuts

2002-01-15 Thread Keith Nelson



I had 
this exact same problem. But when I had it i couldn't create users. it would 
create them but never assign an e-mail address or create a mailbox. I fixed this 
buy reapplying SP2.
Keith NelsonNetwork 
AdministratorOrange County High School of the 
Arts[EMAIL PROTECTED](714) 560-0900 ex5910 

  -Original Message-From: Albert Vasquez 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:29 
  AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Event ID: 9188 is 
  driving me nuts
  Okay, I have an Exchange 2000 server running on a 
  Windows 2000 advanced server (no cluster) and as I check My event logs I find 
  the following error in my App log: 
  
  Event Type:ErrorEvent 
  Source:MSExchangeSAEvent Category:General Event 
  ID:9188Date:1/15/2002Time:9:42:31 
  AMUser:N/AComputer:host nameDescription:Microsoft 
  Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group 'cn=Exchange 
  Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=*,dc=*,dc=com'. Error code '8007203a'. 
  
  Please check whether the local 
  computer is a member of the group. If it is not, stop all the Microsoft 
  Exchange services, add the local computer into the group manually and restart 
  all the services. 
  
  For more information, click 
  http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp.
  Now, I will inform youas for the rest of my logs 
  everythingis coming up "BLUE" =). While I have perused the link 
  associated with this error I kindly get redirected to a MSdoc page that 
  displays the ever so wonderful " 
  Exchange 2000 Server Event and Error 
  Messages
  Unfortunately, at this time there is 
  no information available for Source:MSExchangeSA, 
  EventID:9188."
  While I found 
  this to be disappointing I followed up by searching Technet and the MS 
  knowledge base,I was pleased to find two Q articles Q260914 and Q294176 
  that has somehow shed some light on the subject. 
  Q260914 - 
  
  CAUSE
  "This problem can occur because Setup 
  searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if they are 
  not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups do not 
  exist." 
  Oh, 
  butthey do exist I am looking right at them. 
  STATUS
  "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a 
  problem in Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server."
  OK, so 
  what do I do?I received NO errors while running Forest prep or domain 
  prep and while this seems to affect public folder publishing in AD i.e 
  :
  Event 
  Type:WarningEvent Source:MSExchangeISEvent 
  Category:General Event 
  ID:9543Date:1/15/2002Time:9:43:11 
  AMUser:N/AComputer:host 
  nameDescription:"Unable to create Public Folder proxy object for 
  folder "OAB Version 2" in the Active Directory." 
  This 
  message is only getting displayed as a result of the 9188 error. The funny 
  thing is that aside from the messages Exchange is working and is showing no 
  outward affects or problem as of yet.
  Help! 
  this is driving me nuts!
  Thanks 
  and regards
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RE: Open relay

2002-01-15 Thread Jason Cordingley
Title: Open relay









Try



http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Print.cfm?articleID=7696



Worked for me



JasonCordingley



-Original Message-
From: mark verschaeve
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: 15 January 2002 15:46
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Open relay



Hi all, 

I have a problem that my
exchange server is on open relay. 
I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still
gives the possibility to send spam mail. 
I don't have the need to route to another server or so.

It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest
configuration, but... 

I'm running NT4 SP6A and
exchange 5.5 SP4 
Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server.


Even when i set routing to
don't reroute I'm still open. 

Do I hav to re-apply the
SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? 

Thanks a lot, because we
where spammed twice already!!! 



Mark Verschaeve,

IT-manager 
Mortier NV 

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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread Glen Macdonald

And you still haven't said what the problem is...
redundant messages could mean a lot of things
Think that's what he means?  :)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And you still haven't said what the problem is...
 redundant messages could mean a lot of things
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
 
 
 Well it's on W2k  Exchange 5.5.
  
 Cris Cardona
 Exchange Administrator
 Clear Channel Worldwide
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
  
 Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc.
  
 And what is the problem
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant
 Messages
 What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging
 problem?
  
 Cris Cardona
 Exchange Administrator
 Clear Channel Worldwide
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701
  
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Event ID 9322 ***ever 10 Min***

2002-01-15 Thread Todd White
Title: Event ID 9322 ***ever 10 Min***





I am receiving the following event ID between 2 servers in the same site. The MTA code is 1722 which looks as a DNS issue. These are both Windows 2000 Adv. Server, SP2, Exchange Server 5.5 SP4. I brought up a windows 2000 internal dns server which seemed to remove the problem, or help, I was having. The problem was that once both servers were up and running, after a short time, mail would stay in the MTA que. I then told my IMS connection to use DNS on the connections tab and mail started flowing again. Can anyone tell me why I am rec. this every 10 min. (event ID 9322)? Yesterday I was rec. this as well as event ID's 289 and 1294 but these are gone now.

Thanks for your help in advance.


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LaserComm Inc.
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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread Cardona, Cris

Well you know when you send a message and it keeps on looping to the same
people I think that will qualify for redundancy.

Cris Cardona
Exchange Administrator
Clear Channel Worldwide
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701


-Original Message-
From: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

And you still haven't said what the problem is...
redundant messages could mean a lot of things
Think that's what he means?  :)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And you still haven't said what the problem is...
 redundant messages could mean a lot of things
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
 
 
 Well it's on W2k  Exchange 5.5.
  
 Cris Cardona
 Exchange Administrator
 Clear Channel Worldwide
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
  
 Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc.
  
 And what is the problem
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant
 Messages
 What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging
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how-to close an open relay on E2K

2002-01-15 Thread Albert Vasquez
Title: Open relay




Okay if you are operating an Exchange 2000 server the following steps need to 
be followed for securing your server and preventing an open mail relay.
1. Start the system manager expand your administrative group (if your using 
one) in which the server you want to use resides.
2. In the console tree, navigate to the protocols container. Expand the 
servers, expand the server you want to work with then expand Protocols
3. In the console tree expand SMTP. Right click the virtual server that you 
wan to work with and select properties.
4.Click the access tab, and then click Relay. You should now see the Relay 
Restrictions dialog box.
5.To grant relay rights to specific computers and deny relay rights to all 
others, click Only the list below.
6.To deny relay for specific computers and grant all others the right to 
relay, click All Except the list below.
7. Create the grant or deny list, click add ,and thenin the computer dialog 
box specify a single machine, or a group of computers or a domain.
for a single machine type the IP address for the computer
for a group of computers type the subnet address and the subnet mask
for a domain type the FQDN in the field. 
8.click ok
note: when you grant or deny based on domain there will be a performance hit 
while it does a reverse lookup.
I also defined the who could make a connection to port 25 for an added level 
of security. To do this follow these steps:
1. Start the system manager expand your administrative group (if your using 
one) in which the server you want to use resides.
2. In the console tree, navigate to the protocols container. Expand the 
servers, expand the server you want to work with then expand Protocols
3. In the console tree expand SMTP. Right click the virtual server that you 
want to work with and select properties.
4.click the connections in the access tab.

5.To grant relay rights to specific computers and deny relay rights to all 
others, click Only the list below.
6.To deny relay for specific computers and grant all others the right to 
relay,click All Except the list below.
7. Create the grant or deny list, click add ,and then in the computer dialog 
box specify a single machine, or a group of computers or a domain.
for a single machine type the IP address for the computer
for a group of computers type the subnet address and the subnet mask
for a domain type the FQDN in the field. 
8.click ok
note: If you use an Enterprise Monitor and monitor the SMTP port 25 make sure 
you add it to the grant list.
That's it
AlV



  -Original Message-From: Jason Cordingley 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  11:41 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Open 
  relay
  
  Try
  
  http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Print.cfm?articleID=7696
  
  Worked for 
  me
  
  JasonCordingley
  
  -Original 
  Message-From: mark 
  verschaeve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 15:46To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open relay
  
  Hi all, 
  
  I have a problem that my 
  exchange server is on open relay. I already 
  tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to 
  send spam mail. I don't have the need to 
  route to another server or so. It's a 
  single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, 
  but... 
  I'm running NT4 SP6A and 
  exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails 
  essentials installed on the same server. 
  Even when i set routing 
  to don't reroute I'm still open. 
  Do I hav to re-apply the 
  SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? 
  Thanks a lot, because we 
  where spammed twice already!!! 
  
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  Verschaeve, IT-manager 
  Mortier NV 
  
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RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

2002-01-15 Thread bill . higgins

This is like pulling teeth...

Are the users on the same exchange box? Is the message going to the internet?

-Original Message-
From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 09:22
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages


Well you know when you send a message and it keeps on looping to the same
people I think that will qualify for redundancy.

Cris Cardona
Exchange Administrator
Clear Channel Worldwide
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
(W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701


-Original Message-
From: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:34 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages

And you still haven't said what the problem is...
redundant messages could mean a lot of things
Think that's what he means?  :)
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 And you still haven't said what the problem is...
 redundant messages could mean a lot of things
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
 
 
 Well it's on W2k  Exchange 5.5.
  
 Cris Cardona
 Exchange Administrator
 Clear Channel Worldwide
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701
  
 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting
 Redundant Messages
  
 Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc.
  
 And what is the problem
 -Original Message-
 From: Cardona, Cris
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
 Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41
 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
 Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant
 Messages
 What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging
 problem?
  
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Opening Office 2000 attachments.

2002-01-15 Thread David McSpadden



I have set something up completely incorrect on 
either my Office 2000 or on my Outlook 2000.
When I send an Office attachment to my users, they 
can not open the file. If they have the Office 2000 product open (word, 
excel, etc...) then my attachment opens fine. What do I need to do so they 
don't have to keep the office products open all day??
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RE: Email Groups

2002-01-15 Thread Dahl, Peter

If you send to a group and this person is a member of the group, there
is no way to keep them from getting the message.  Unless of course you
remove them from the group list before sending.

Peter Dahl.

-Original Message-
From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Groups


When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5,
SP4 is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user
within that group?  



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RE: PST files...

2002-01-15 Thread Mike Zatkalik
Title: RE: PST files...



I have 
tried this numerous times with different mailboxes, exporting the mailbox, 
simply copying the mailbox but it never works. I know that I have heard 
about problems relating to the read only issue, but ALL mailboxes that I have 
attempted give me the same errors. My work around, zipping then burning to 
cd works, but is a PITA and driving me crazy.

Thanks 
for the comment,

MZ

  -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 
  15, 2002 11:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
  RE: PST files...
  The read only issue is well know, the second part of your 
  problem I have not seen. Maybe it was corrupted during the burn 
  process. It is no reason that you can't burn pst's to cd rom.
  -Original Message- From: Mike 
  Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST 
  files... 
  Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however 
  when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error 
  saying file access is denied. After playing 
  around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I 
  get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. 
  The only way around this that I have found is to zip 
  the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works 
  fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do 
  this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service 
  packs. 
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How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?

2002-01-15 Thread Ignash, Brian

Hello -

  I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue...

ISSUE:

  I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to
receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts
from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not
want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server...
just specific existing individuals.

  
  Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

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RE: Email Groups

2002-01-15 Thread John Matteson

I'll make it a hat trick.

Bill and Peter are correct. There is no way to address a message to a
distribution list and then Exempt a particular address from the list in the
commercial version of the product. However, in the Defense Messaging System
version of the product, that function is available.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
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men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha



-Original Message-
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Groups


When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4
is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within
that group?  



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FW: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and acti on t aken.

2002-01-15 Thread Dahl, Peter

Not sure why my earlier message was quarantined... I guess redundant
messages are considered sensitive materials to some companies.

:) 

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To: Dahl, Peter
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aken.


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RE: PST files...

2002-01-15 Thread Martin Blackstone
Title: Message



I would agree 
with this.

  
  -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 
  15, 2002 9:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  PST files...
  The read only issue is well know, the second part of your 
  problem I have not seen. Maybe it was corrupted during the burn 
  process. It is no reason that you can't burn pst's to cd rom.
  -Original Message- From: Mike 
  Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST 
  files... 
  Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however 
  when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error 
  saying file access is denied. After playing 
  around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I 
  get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. 
  The only way around this that I have found is to zip 
  the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works 
  fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do 
  this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service 
  packs. 
   Mike Zatkalik  
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RE: Email Groups

2002-01-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

No :(

-Original Message-
From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:05 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Groups


When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4
is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within
that group?  



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GDY appended to display name

2002-01-15 Thread Clayton



Hi, 
sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has given me 
some ideas which I want to check with y'all.

Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with 
others). We have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties 
look clean (display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2.

So, 
if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for searching through to 
see where this GDY might be coming from. I am somewhat familiar with these 
tools, but I am more than sure some of you have more experience and can point me 
in the right direction here.

Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here 
:-)
Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + 
IGamedayInternational 
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RE: Email Groups

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

Who is Bill?

William 

-Original Message-
From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:48 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Email Groups


I'll make it a hat trick.

Bill and Peter are correct. There is no way to address a message to a
distribution list and then Exempt a particular address from the list in the
commercial version of the product. However, in the Defense Messaging System
version of the product, that function is available.

John Matteson; Exchange Manager 
Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards 
(404) 239 - 2981 
Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise
men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe
it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha



-Original Message-
From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Email Groups


When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4
is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within
that group?  



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No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince

Hey,

Here's what I'm doing now and why?

NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.

NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape.


Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT?


Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.


Thanks much in advance..



Howie
 

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Re: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread David N. Precht

ntbackup?
- Original Message -
From: Howie Pince [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 14:18
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


 Hey,

 Here's what I'm doing now and why?

 NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.

 NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump
out
 pst's to dat tape.


 Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
 least I have something to start a restore with.

 Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
 the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than
the
 source box.


 MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
 copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the
SAM
 to the 2nd box?

 As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready
to
 give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
 restored to anything.

 Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
 Exmerging everyday to DAT?


 Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.


 Thanks much in advance..



 Howie


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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on
lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say
0, then don't back it up.

-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


Hey,

Here's what I'm doing now and why?

NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.

NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape.


Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT?


Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.


Thanks much in advance..



Howie
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

Preferred:
1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running.
or
2) dump SBS

Last resort:
2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb,
pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location

References:
3)
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a
sp
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp

William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


Hey,

Here's what I'm doing now and why?

NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.

NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape.


Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT?


Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.


Thanks much in advance..



Howie
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince




I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running,
but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything?

Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget?

Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server?



Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this
situation




Howie




IMHO:

SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB?

Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh???



-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???


Preferred:
1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running.
or
2) dump SBS

Last resort:
2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb,
pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location

References:
3)
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a
sp
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp

William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


Hey,

Here's what I'm doing now and why?

NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.

NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape.


Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT?


Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.


Thanks much in advance..



Howie
 

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???





Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available

Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package...

-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.

-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Hey,


  Here's what I'm doing now and why?


NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.


NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape.



Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT?



Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.



Thanks much in advance..




Howie



List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: How do I eliminate specific individuals?

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

MICHèLE SHARIK
Pretend for a moment that I'm not psychic and provide the version and sp
level, please.
/MICHèLE SHARIK

For Exchange5.5:
Section 3.6:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm

For Exchange2000:
Section 5.3:
http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_sec5.htm

William


-Original Message-
From: Ignash, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:40 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?


Hello -

  I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue...

ISSUE:

  I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to
receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts
from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not
want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server...
just specific existing individuals.

  
  Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

The admin training alone would cost more than SBS.
Then there is the explaining to management about missing functionality.
Perhaps Ellison's Oracle messaging application?

William 


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???


Ya right, and what, send mail?

Come on

We need robust groupware solution.

I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com 
 
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???



Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux?

-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???





I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running,
but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything?

Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget?

Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server?



Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this
situation




Howie




IMHO:

SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB?

Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh???


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server

2002-01-15 Thread Jim Holmgren

oops...forgot to add Unless it is hidden.
-Jim

-Original Message-
From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server


Open a new email (assuming Outlook) and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED]  Hit
Tools...Check Names.

It should resolve to the display name of the mailbox that has that SMTP
address.

-Jim
Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Network Engineer
Advertising.com

We bring innovation to interactive communication.
Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance.


-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:51 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: looking for an email address on the exchange server


Hi everyone,

Running ex5.5 sp4 on win 2k server

We recently rehired a used and had deleted the individuals mailbox months
ago.  I have recreated her mailbox but cannot add the smtp address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Its coming up saying that it already exists.  Im not
sure if someone entered this smtp address into someone elses mailbox so that
they would receive her emails.  It was kind of stupid to do that but is
there a way that you can search for this smtp address on the exchange
server? Can I run a search that will allow me to locate which mailbox, or
public folder this smtp address might be connected to?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???





Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective dirtbag way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or so to stop.

PS Don't be offended by the Dirtbag moniker- it's nothing personal.


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???



Ya right, and what, send mail?


Come on


We need robust groupware solution.


I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak.


Howie


Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com 






-Original Message-
From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???




Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux?


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???






I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running,
but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything?


Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget?


Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server?




Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this
situation





Howie





IMHO:


SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB?


Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh???




-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???



Preferred:
1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running.
or
2) dump SBS


Last resort:
2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb,
pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location


References:
3)
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a
sp
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp


William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP
---
Why just ride, when you can fly?
http://www.airborne.net 
---
Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED]



-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Hey,


  Here's what I'm doing now and why?


NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4.


NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape.



Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.


Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.



MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?


As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.


Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT?



Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.



Thanks much in advance..




Howie



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm



List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server

2002-01-15 Thread Brent Hudson

Hidden mailbox maybe?
B


-Original Message-
From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: 15 January 2002 09:51
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: looking for an email address on the exchange server


Hi everyone,

Running ex5.5 sp4 on win 2k server

We recently rehired a used and had deleted the individuals mailbox months
ago.  I have recreated her mailbox but cannot add the smtp address of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]  Its coming up saying that it already exists.  Im not
sure if someone entered this smtp address into someone elses mailbox so that
they would receive her emails.  It was kind of stupid to do that but is
there a way that you can search for this smtp address on the exchange
server? Can I run a search that will allow me to locate which mailbox, or
public folder this smtp address might be connected to?

Any suggestions would be appreciated.

Thanks,

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince

Toughest part of the job, they want everything and want to pay for
NOTHING...

Thanks,

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com 
 
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???


The admin training alone would cost more than SBS.
Then there is the explaining to management about missing functionality.
Perhaps Ellison's Oracle messaging application?

William 


-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:01 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???


Ya right, and what, send mail?

Come on

We need robust groupware solution.

I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com 
 
 
 


-Original Message-
From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???



Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux?

-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How
to???





I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running,
but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything?

Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget?

Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server?



Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this
situation




Howie




IMHO:

SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB?

Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh???


List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep

2002-01-15 Thread Mike Rausch

Ok, I running Exchange 2000.

What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally
run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been
prepped?

In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server.  Now there
was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done
/forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again
when building this most recent one.  But without thinking I did.  The rest
of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information
Stores won't mount.  So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the
forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason.

I am not hugely concerned.  Though rebuilding the test environment would
be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world.  I am more just
curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this.

Thanks

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm




RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
  solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
  says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
  available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
  backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
  own the main package...
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  
  Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value 
  they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. 
  If they say 0, then don't back it up.
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm doing 
  now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
  day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
  prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS 
  fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
  different SID's than the source box.
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get 
  a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of 
  the SAM to the 2nd box?
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
  and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
  see, it cant be restored to anything.
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
  method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
  Thanks much in advance.. 
  Howie  
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

I don't *think* so.  It will attempt the same schema changes.  

William 


-Original Message-
From: Mike Rausch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep


Ok, I running Exchange 2000.

What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally
run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been
prepped?

In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server.  Now there
was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done
/forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again
when building this most recent one.  But without thinking I did.  The rest
of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information
Stores won't mount.  So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the
forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason.

I am not hugely concerned.  Though rebuilding the test environment would
be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world.  I am more just
curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this.

Thanks

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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



That 
would be the equivalent of BLB.

There 
are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your 
backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange 
Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO.

(Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
differentials)
Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 
'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain 
information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and 
the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of 
failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. 
Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the 
application event log.

William

-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
  solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
  says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
  available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
  backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
  own the main package...
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  
  Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value 
  they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. 
  If they say 0, then don't back it up.
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm doing 
  now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
  day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
  prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS 
  fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
  different SID's than the source box.
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get 
  a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of 
  the SAM to the 2nd box?
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
  and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
  see, it cant be restored to anything.
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
  method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
  Thanks much in advance.. 
  Howie  
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  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Abercrombie, Sherry
Title: Message



BLB 
would be backing up individual mailboxes/messages...which would require a backup 
software that is specifically designed for Exchange. Works relatively well 
in Veritas.

"What 
doyou use to backup data files", I meant documents, spreadsheets, 
presentations etc., (sorry I didn't make that clear). EG, we use 
Veritas Backup Exec with the Exchange agent and other agents to backup our 
network. Veritas Backup Exec was a large investment, but the agents that 
we added on were around 200 each. It's a low cost option if you already 
have something in place.

On the 
zero $$$ options, I would recommend William's 3rd option. Stop the 
Exchange Services, copy the *.edb files to another server on your network, not 
the Exchange server, then it could be placed onyour regular network backup 
and you could recover from there.

You 
could get yourself the $$$ to get a "real" backup solution by deleting some 
important messages from some upper level managers mailbox and then tell them you 
cannot restore them because you have not a backup that can restore individual 
messages. But, I didn't say that.:)

  
  -Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Sherry,
  
  Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
  only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
  
  Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
  is?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Howie
  
  Howie Pince
  Network Administrator
  A+, MCSE 2000
  Higher Dimension Research Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  651-256-1987
  www.superfabric.com
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
available
Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
own the main package...
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message- From: 
Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Hey, 
 
 Here's what I'm 
doing now and why? 
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
different SID's than the source box.
MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
see, it cant be restored to anything.
Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
Thanks much in advance.. 
Howie  
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Ok 
that will backup the stores, but what if something takes the WHOLE box 
down?

Can't 
restore the dir.edb without a recovery server, can't create a recovery server 
with SBS?

Will 
try your suggestion, atleast that would cover it if the store becomes 
corrupt.

Thanks 
much

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 
  15, 2002 2:00 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the 
  cheapest and most effective "dirtbag" way of backing up Exchange with no 
  budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try 
  it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch 
  file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and 
  then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or 
  so to stop.
  PS Don't be offended by the "Dirtbag" moniker- it's nothing 
  personal. 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Ya right, and what, send mail? 
  Come on 
  We need robust groupware solution. 
  I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. 
  Howie 
  Howie Pince Network 
  Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com
  -Original Message- From: Dawn 
  R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference 
  to Linux? 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange 
  is running, but what good will that do if I can't 
  restore it to anything? 
  Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? 
  Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore 
  server? 
  Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get 
  somewhere with this situation 
  
  Howie 
  IMHO: 
  SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a "restore" server just to 
  restore a DB? 
  Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also 
  huh??? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS 
  server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS 
  Last resort: 2) stop exchange services 
  (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, 
  and dir.edb to a file location 
  References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a 
  sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp 
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP 
  --- 
  Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net 
  --- 
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm doing 
  now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
  day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
  prog, so at least I have something to start a restore 
  with. 
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS 
  fails cause the dir.edb import restore on 
  another SBS box has different SID's than the source 
  box. 
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get 
  a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so 
  how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? 
  
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
  and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, 
  cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to 
  anything. 
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
  method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I 

RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Micciche, Robert
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



BLB's 
are specific Backup Software that useMAPI to individually log into 
mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do with 
pst's. I highly urge you to go to:

http://www.microsoft.com/exchange

Go to 
the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White 
Paper. I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable. 


  -Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Sherry,
  
  Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
  only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
  
  Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
  is?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Howie
  
  Howie Pince
  Network Administrator
  A+, MCSE 2000
  Higher Dimension Research Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  651-256-1987
  www.superfabric.com
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
available
Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
own the main package...
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message- From: 
Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Hey, 
 
 Here's what I'm 
doing now and why? 
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
different SID's than the source box.
MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
see, it cant be restored to anything.
Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
Thanks much in advance.. 
Howie  
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at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Brent Hudson
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



I 
agree, you can even write a batch file that stops the services ("net stop bla 
bla bla") and Xcopies it to another share, then restarts the services. You can 
schedual it to happen after hours ..

worked 
for me in the bad old days..

Later
B

  -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 15 January 2002 
  10:00To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the 
  cheapest and most effective "dirtbag" way of backing up Exchange with no 
  budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try 
  it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch 
  file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and 
  then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or 
  so to stop.
  PS Don't be offended by the "Dirtbag" moniker- it's nothing 
  personal. 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Ya right, and what, send mail? 
  Come on 
  We need robust groupware solution. 
  I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. 
  Howie 
  Howie Pince Network 
  Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com
  -Original Message- From: Dawn 
  R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference 
  to Linux? 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange 
  is running, but what good will that do if I can't 
  restore it to anything? 
  Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? 
  Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore 
  server? 
  Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get 
  somewhere with this situation 
  
  Howie 
  IMHO: 
  SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a "restore" server just to 
  restore a DB? 
  Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also 
  huh??? 
  -Original Message- From: 
  Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS 
  server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS 
  Last resort: 2) stop exchange services 
  (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, 
  and dir.edb to a file location 
  References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a 
  sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp 
  
  William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP 
  --- 
  Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net 
  --- 
  Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  -Original Message- From: Howie 
  Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm doing 
  now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
  day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
  prog, so at least I have something to start a restore 
  with. 
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS 
  fails cause the dir.edb import restore on 
  another SBS box has different SID's than the source 
  box. 
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get 
  a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so 
  how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? 
  
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
  and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, 
  cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to 
  anything. 
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
  method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
  Thanks much in advance.. 
  Howie  
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: 

RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



I 
must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? 


  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  That 
  would be the equivalent of BLB.
  
  There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good 
  backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the 
  Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO.
  
  (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
  differentials)
  Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 
  'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain 
  information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and 
  the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of 
  failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. 
  Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the 
  application event log.
  
  William
  
  -Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Sherry,
  
  Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
  only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
  
  Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
  is?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Howie
  
  Howie Pince
  Network Administrator
  A+, MCSE 2000
  Higher Dimension Research Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  651-256-1987
  www.superfabric.com
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
available
Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
own the main package...
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message- From: 
Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Hey, 
 
 Here's what I'm 
doing now and why? 
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
different SID's than the source box.
MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
see, it cant be restored to anything.
Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
Thanks much in advance.. 
Howie  
List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 

List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



That 
was my 'preferred' solution.


-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I 
must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? 


  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  That 
  would be the equivalent of BLB.
  
  There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good 
  backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the 
  Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO.
  
  (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
  differentials)
  Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 
  'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain 
  information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and 
  the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of 
  failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. 
  Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the 
  application event log.
  
  William
  
  -Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Sherry,
  
  Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can 
  only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
  
  Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
  is?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Howie
  
  Howie Pince
  Network Administrator
  A+, MCSE 2000
  Higher Dimension Research Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  651-256-1987
  www.superfabric.com
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
available
Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of 
backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already 
own the main package...
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message- From: 
Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Hey, 
 
 Here's what I'm 
doing now and why? 
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every 
day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin 
prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with.
Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has 
different SID's than the source box.
MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue 
and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can 
see, it cant be restored to anything.
Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present 
method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 
Thanks much in advance.. 
Howie  
List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 

List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
List Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 

RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Read 
the white paper thanks, thats is where I found out why my restores to another 
box that don't have the same SAM will stop the dir service from starting on the 
target box.

Agree 
it's a good read

But 
still need to hear about the exmerge option from you guys?

Thanks 
for your input

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 
  15, 2002 2:14 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  BLB's are specific Backup Software that useMAPI to individually 
  log into mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do 
  with pst's. I highly urge you to go to:
  
  http://www.microsoft.com/exchange
  
  Go 
  to the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White 
  Paper. I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable. 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that 
can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant 
create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
  solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
  says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
  available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types 
  of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you 
  already own the main package...
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to??? 
  Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
  value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
  recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
  -Original Message- From: 
  Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm 
  doing now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge 
  every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange 
  admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore 
  with.
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
  ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box 
  has different SID's than the source box.
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
  get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
  copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server 
  issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as 
  I can see, it cant be restored to anything.
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my 
  present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 

  Thanks much in advance.. 
  Howie  
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
  
  List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
  List Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
Charter and FAQ 
at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList 
  Charter and FAQ 
  at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm





RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Ray Zorz
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



I 
figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? 


  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  That 
  was my 'preferred' solution.
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  I 
  must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
That would be the equivalent of BLB.

There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a 
good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, 
like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO.

(Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
differentials)
Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 
'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs 
contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the 
database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system 
back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow 
for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system 
and report to the application event log.

William

-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that 
can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant 
create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
  solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in management 
  says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
  available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types 
  of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you 
  already own the main package...
  -Original Message- From: 
  Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to??? 
  Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
  value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
  recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
  -Original Message- From: 
  Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
  To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to??? 
  Hey, 
   
   Here's what I'm 
  doing now and why? 
  NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
  NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge 
  every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
  Also been running directory export out of the exchange 
  admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore 
  with.
  Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore 
  ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box 
  has different SID's than the source box.
  MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to 
  get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a 
  copy of the SAM to the 2nd box?
  As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server 
  issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as 
  I can see, it cant be restored to anything.
  Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my 
  present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? 
  Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 

RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread kdl
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery 
server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM 
using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server 
first?

Just a 
thought.


  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  I 
  figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? 
  
  
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
That was my 'preferred' 
solution.


-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I 
must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple 
servers? 

  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  That would be the equivalent of BLB.
  
  There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a 
  good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, 
  like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO.
  
  (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
  differentials)
  Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 
  'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs 
  contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the 
  database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system 
  back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not 
  allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your 
  system and report to the application event log.
  
  William
  
  -Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Sherry,
  
  Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that 
  can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant 
  create.
  
  Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
  is?
  
  Thanks.
  
  Howie
  
  Howie Pince
  Network Administrator
  A+, MCSE 2000
  Higher Dimension Research Inc.
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  651-256-1987
  www.superfabric.com
  
  
  
  
-Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup 
solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in 
management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not 
available
Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types 
of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you 
already own the main package...
-Original Message- From: 
Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, 
How to??? 
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what 
value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to 
recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up.
-Original Message- From: 
Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to??? 
Hey, 
 
 Here's what I'm 
doing now and why? 
NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 
NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge 
every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. 
Also been running directory export out of the exchange 
admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore 
with.
Also have been running 

RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Todd Wood

Stop the Exchange services prior to starting the backup and backup the exchsrvr 
directory as a flat file.  If/when your server fails you should be able to restore the 
entire exchsrvr directory as long as the server has the same configuration as the 
original, such as the exchange org, site and server name.  

I'm also assuming you have store and forward capabilities with your ISP so mail will 
not be bounced while the services are stopped?

todd

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/15/02 12:53PM 
Read the white paper thanks, thats is where I found out why my restores to
another box that don't have the same SAM will stop the dir service from
starting on the target box.
 
Agree it's a good read
 
But still need to hear about the exmerge option from you guys?
 
Thanks for your input
 
Howie
 
Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com/ 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:14 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


BLB's are specific Backup Software that use MAPI to individually log into
mailboxes and back them up one box at a time.  Nothing to do with pst's.  I
highly urge you to go to:
 
http://www.microsoft.com/exchange http://www.microsoft.com/exchange 
 
Go to the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White
Paper.  I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable.  

-Original Message-
From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???


Sherry,
 
Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only
be restored to a recovery server that I cant create.
 
Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is?
 
Thanks.
 
Howie
 
Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com/ 
 
 
 

-Original Message-
From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing
what you're doing  wait til someone in management says they need something
restored and then tell them it's not available

Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files?  With most backup
software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are
usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package...

-Original Message- 
From: Martin Blackstone [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 


Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on
lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say
0, then don't back it up.

-Original Message- 
From: Howie Pince [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM 
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues 
Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? 


Hey, 

Here's what I'm doing now and why? 

NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. 

NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out
pst's to dat tape. 


Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at
least I have something to start a restore with.

Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause
the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the
source box.


MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct
copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM
to the 2nd box?

As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to
give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be
restored to anything.

Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of
Exmerging everyday to DAT? 


Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. 


Thanks much in advance.. 



Howie 
  

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm  

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm  

List Charter and FAQ at:
http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm 


List Charter and FAQ at:

Message Delays

2002-01-15 Thread Sharicz, Andrew
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



I seem 
to have some messages getting delayed inmy Exchange 2000Servers. 
Looking at message tracking for one message, there is about an 8 hour gap 
between "SMTP: Message Submitted to Categorizer" and "SMTP: Started Outbound 
Transfer of Message" on the server the message was sent from. The only thing I 
can think of that might be out of the ordinary is that we use the "Send all 
unresolvable mail to" field as we have Sendmail alias lists that are in the same 
SMTP domain as the Exchange, sowe need a way for the messages to get 
forwarded to Sendmail. These seem to be the messages that are getting 
delayed.

There 
could be delays with messages sent out to the Internet but It's less likely that 
I'd hear about those. I noticed the outbound SMTP queue always stays around 45 
or so messages. Does this sound about right for an E2k server with 
800users on it?

Perhaps someone could point me in the right 
direction?

The 
Environment:4 Win2kAdvSrv-SP2E2k-SP1 servers at various locations, 
one isset upas the front-end, behind a Sendmail server. 


Andrew 
K Sharicz
List Charter and FAQ at:
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Outlook question

2002-01-15 Thread mollahassani, parviz


Hi everybody
I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some
of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the
their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their
mail server is off site  I have no idea what mail server they are using.

Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: GDY appended to display name

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

Is GDY an acronym for something?  Or are these letters actually appended?

What other apps are on your Exchange Server?  A/V?

William



-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GDY appended to display name


Hi, sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has
given me some ideas which I want to check with y'all.

Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with others). We
have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties look clean
(display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2.

So, if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for searching
through to see where this GDY might be coming from. I am somewhat familiar
with these tools, but I am more than sure some of you have more experience
and can point me in the right direction here.

Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here :-)
Clayton Doige 
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V. 
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T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
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RE: PST files...

2002-01-15 Thread msharik

It's much easier to archive mail using WNMailKeeper (www.wickett.net) - you
can keep your archived mail on CD  not have to worry about the read-only
thing like with PST files. 

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-Original Message-
From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: PST files...


Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however when the pst's
are copied off the cd I get an error saying file access is denied.  After
playing around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I
get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file.  The only way around
this that I have found is to zip the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it
works fine.  Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do
this?  I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service packs.  

 Mike Zatkalik
 

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RE: Message Delays

2002-01-15 Thread BOERO MANSILLA Roberto
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



e2k 
with 800 users on a Pentium is one thing.
800 
users on a server with 4 processors 8 gb or RAM raid 5 with 6 36g hard 
drives, etc is other thing, 
so the 
number of recp without the hardware info is useless..





  -Mensaje original-De: Sharicz, Andrew 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Enero de 2002 
  06:10 p.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: Message 
  Delays
  I 
  seem to have some messages getting delayed inmy Exchange 
  2000Servers. Looking at message tracking for one message, there is about 
  an 8 hour gap between "SMTP: Message Submitted to Categorizer" and "SMTP: 
  Started Outbound Transfer of Message" on the server the message was sent from. 
  The only thing I can think of that might be out of the ordinary is that we use 
  the "Send all unresolvable mail to" field as we have Sendmail alias lists that 
  are in the same SMTP domain as the Exchange, sowe need a way for the 
  messages to get forwarded to Sendmail. These seem to be the messages that are 
  getting delayed.
  
  There could be delays with messages sent out to the Internet but It's 
  less likely that I'd hear about those. I noticed the outbound SMTP queue 
  always stays around 45 or so messages. Does this sound about right for an E2k 
  server with 800users on it?
  
  Perhaps someone could point me in the right 
  direction?
  
  The 
  Environment:4 Win2kAdvSrv-SP2E2k-SP1 servers at various locations, 
  one isset upas the front-end, behind a Sendmail server. 
  
  
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RE: Outlook question

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI
profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email.  This does not allow for
'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time.

However, teamfolders *might* be a solution.  
http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm


William

-Original Message-
From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook question



Hi everybody
I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some
of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the
their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their
mail server is off site  I have no idea what mail server they are using.

Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?

2002-01-15 Thread msharik

http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm   I think it's in Appendix C,
but I might be mistaken.

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-Original Message-
From: Ignash, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:40 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?


Hello -

  I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue...

ISSUE:

  I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to
receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts
from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not
want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server...
just specific existing individuals.

  
  Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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RE: wow

2002-01-15 Thread Allen Crawford
Title: Message









Yeah, I
understood all of that. I meant
the second thing you saidthat the form resides on the Exchange server. My point was mainly that you didnt
need a third-party application; you can do it with just plain ol Exchange.



-Original Message-
From: Benjamin Winzenz
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002
3:22 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wow



OK - I am jumping in late on this, but I
was gone yesterday. I'll say it again. Exchange is not involved in
what attachments are shown/not shown. It is managed via an Outlook Form
that is simply residing in a Public Folder. The client has a registry setting
that forces it to check this form every time Outlook is launched, after which
the extensions from the form are incorporated into the client. So, if by
saying that you can manage the extensions through Exchange, you mean that the
form resides ON the Exchange server, fine, but Exchange itself does not have
this feature, and it is not an add-on feature either. Other than that,
the client itself controls ALL of the hiding of the extensions specified, not
the Exchange server.

Ben Winzenz, MCSE 
Network/Systems Administrator 
Peregrine Systems 

-Original Message-
From: Allen Crawford
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002
5:50 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wow



You can adjust what
attachments are shown through Exchange. But you can't block them or
anything. It just hides them from Outlook as far as I can
tell.



-Original Message-
From: Martin Blackstone
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002
12:58 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: wow



No, he is wrong. You cant control
attachment types in Exchange regardless of the version of it or Outlook.

You need a 3rd party product such as an
Exchange AV system or content filter software to block attachments at the
Exchange server.






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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Howie Pince
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



THANK 
YOU KDL!!!

That 
IS the point I CAN NOT use the backed up dir.edb unless I can pull the SAM on 
the target box, MS suggests a "recovery server" as a BDC in the domain to has a 
correct copy of the SAM.

KDL, 
your Idea is interesting, can one just pull the SAM off the source box and 
replace it on the target box?

You'd 
think the SAM is live, and cant be copied, so boot disk time 
correct?

Thanks 
guys. gals!


Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery 
  server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM 
  using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server 
  first?
  
  Just 
  a thought.
  
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I 
figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? 


  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  That was my 'preferred' 
  solution.
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be 
  used? Multiple servers? 
  
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
That would be the equivalent of BLB.

There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a 
good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important 
mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or 
CEO/CIO/EIEIO.

(Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
differentials)
Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing 
up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs 
contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast 
the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your 
system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will 
not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of 
your system and report to the application event log.

William

-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape 
that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant 
create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange 
  backup solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in 
  management says they need something restored and then tell them it's 
  not available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific 
  types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive 
  if you already own the main package...
  -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
  Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 

RE: Outlook question

2002-01-15 Thread Martin Blackstone

Find out the mail system for starters

-Original Message-
From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook question



Hi everybody
I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some
of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the
their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their
mail server is off site  I have no idea what mail server they are using.

Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???



I 
thought you said you READ the disaster recovery whitepapers.

-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
THANK 
YOU KDL!!!

That 
IS the point I CAN NOT use the backed up dir.edb unless I can pull the SAM on 
the target box, MS suggests a "recovery server" as a BDC in the domain to has a 
correct copy of the SAM.

KDL, 
your Idea is interesting, can one just pull the SAM off the source box and 
replace it on the target box?

You'd 
think the SAM is live, and cant be copied, so boot disk time 
correct?

Thanks 
guys. gals!


Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:58 
  PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
  backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
  Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery 
  server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM 
  using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server 
  first?
  
  Just 
  a thought.
  
  
-Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget 
backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I 
figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? 


  -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
  2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  That was my 'preferred' 
  solution.
  
  
  -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
  budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be 
  used? Multiple servers? 
  
-Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 
2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: 
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
That would be the equivalent of BLB.

There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a 
good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important 
mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or 
CEO/CIO/EIEIO.

(Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, 
differentials)
Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing 
up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs 
contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast 
the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your 
system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will 
not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of 
your system and report to the application event log.

William

-Original Message-From: Howie Pince 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 
PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No 
budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
to???
Sherry,

Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape 
that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant 
create.

Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what 
is?

Thanks.

Howie

Howie Pince
Network Administrator
A+, MCSE 2000
Higher Dimension Research Inc.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
651-256-1987
www.superfabric.com




  -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 
  1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: 
  No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How 
  to???
  Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange 
  backup solution stop doing what you're doing  wait til someone in 
  management says they need something restored and then tell them it's 
  not available
  Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data 
  files? With most backup software, adding 

RE: GDY appended to display name

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

My next question would be is anyone using Polish as their Windows
language

-Original Message-
From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:30 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GDY appended to display name


http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=GDY

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 16:59
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: GDY appended to display name


Is GDY an acronym for something?  Or are these letters actually
appended?

What other apps are on your Exchange Server?  A/V?

William



-Original Message-
From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:52 AM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: GDY appended to display name


Hi, sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has
given me some ideas which I want to check with y'all.

Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with others). We
have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties look
clean (display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2.

So, if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for
searching through to see where this GDY might be coming from. I am
somewhat familiar with these tools, but I am more than sure some of you
have more experience and can point me in the right direction here.

Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here :-) Clayton
Doige 
IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I
Gameday International N.V. 
Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... 
T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537
C: +5 999 563 1845 
F: +5 999 733 1259 
E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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RE: Outlook question

2002-01-15 Thread mollahassani, parviz

Thanks William

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook question


If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI
profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email.  This does not allow for
'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time.

However, teamfolders *might* be a solution.  
http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm


William

-Original Message-
From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook question



Hi everybody
I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some
of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the
their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their
mail server is off site  I have no idea what mail server they are using.

Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: Outlook question

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

No worries.  Not much help though.  :o/

William 


-Original Message-
From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:49 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook question


Thanks William

-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Outlook question


If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI
profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email.  This does not allow for
'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time.

However, teamfolders *might* be a solution.  
http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm


William

-Original Message-
From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Outlook question



Hi everybody
I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some
of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the
their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their
mail server is off site  I have no idea what mail server they are using.

Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

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RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep

2002-01-15 Thread Rick Ward - HQ
Title: RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep





*should* be okay since your not updating to anything new/different... only think I could think of is if you used a box that had a different SP(read:lesser SP) than the original, or current servers are running on and that somehow mucked it up. Guess you'll find out in a few days, eh?? ;)

Don't think there would be much you could do about it now anyway?


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:09 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep


I don't *think* so. It will attempt the same schema changes. 


William 



-Original Message-
From: Mike Rausch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep



Ok, I running Exchange 2000.


What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally
run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been
prepped?


In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server. Now there
was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done
/forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again
when building this most recent one. But without thinking I did. The rest
of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information
Stores won't mount. So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the
forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason.


I am not hugely concerned. Though rebuilding the test environment would
be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I am more just
curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this.


Thanks


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Replicating a forign address book

2002-01-15 Thread Will Lotto
Title: Message



I'm wondering what 
the easiest way of doing this is... 

We've got an 
internal network, with a multihomed exchange 2000 server at the 
edge.
An organisation we 
work with have their address book in an exchange 5.5 server. This address book 
can be used by anyone sitting on their network (which we have a line into) using 
Outlook.
We don't trust the 
other organisation's network, so it is kept as a physically seperate network, 
and any computers that need to use resources on that network are multi-homed 
onto that network.

Now, our CEO wants 
to be able to get to the other organisation's address book from his laptop when 
he's plugged into our internal network.

I see myself as 
having a couple of options, and I'm wondering what the cleanest, easiest way of 
doing this is:

A. Getting our 
exchange server to hold a copy of the remote address book.
B. Getting our 
exchange server to 'proxy' the remote address book.
C. Installing a 
linux router with NAT between the two networks, and giving the CEO's laptop 
access to the exchange server on the remote network.

I'm wondering if 
someone can tell me, which of these options is possible, and what you'd have to 
do to achieve the goal?


Thanks.

Will 
Lotto.
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Urgent Running out of Drive space

2002-01-15 Thread Jason Dwyer

Hi all,
I have  a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down
to 9mb... I am starting to panic...

Setup is as follows

IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a
Exchange 5.5 sp4
C Drive 4gb only 9mb free
D Drive 27Gb 24gb free
We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent.

I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive.
When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over
1 gig...

Anyone got any ideas??

Regards,

Jason Dwyer



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RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

Where are the transaction logs?
\\exchsrvr\mdbdata\edbx.log each should be 5120MB.

Are these on the C:\ drive?  Are they getting purged after full online
backups?  

William 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space


Hi all,
I have  a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down
to 9mb... I am starting to panic...

Setup is as follows

IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a
Exchange 5.5 sp4
C Drive 4gb only 9mb free
D Drive 27Gb 24gb free
We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent.

I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive.
When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over
1 gig...

Anyone got any ideas??

Regards,

Jason Dwyer


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RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space

2002-01-15 Thread Lefkovics, William

Sorry, you said EVERYTHING is on the E:\ drive.

Then I would look at pagefile.sys perhaps?
Do you have some antivirus with a quarantine folder on C:\?


-Original Message-
From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:18 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space


Where are the transaction logs?
\\exchsrvr\mdbdata\edbx.log each should be 5120MB.

Are these on the C:\ drive?  Are they getting purged after full online
backups?  

William 

-Original Message-
From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space


Hi all,
I have  a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down
to 9mb... I am starting to panic...

Setup is as follows

IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a
Exchange 5.5 sp4
C Drive 4gb only 9mb free
D Drive 27Gb 24gb free
We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent.

I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive.
When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over
1 gig...

Anyone got any ideas??

Regards,

Jason Dwyer


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RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space

2002-01-15 Thread Dennis Atherton

You don't show an E:\ drive in your explanation. 
Is it Mapped to C:\something-or-other by any chance??

-Original Message-
From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM
To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues
Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space


Hi all,
I have  a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down
to 9mb... I am starting to panic...

Setup is as follows

IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a
Exchange 5.5 sp4
C Drive 4gb only 9mb free
D Drive 27Gb 24gb free
We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent.

I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive.
When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over
1 gig...

Anyone got any ideas??

Regards,

Jason Dwyer



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Re: Urgent Running out of Drive space

2002-01-15 Thread Kelly_Borndale


Do you have Backup Exec flushing committed logs after backups?  Can you
download a utility like treesize (available at download.com ) to see which
folder is taking up all the space?
~
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Hi all,
   I have  a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is
down
to 9mb... I am starting to panic...

Setup is as follows

IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a
Exchange 5.5 sp4
C Drive 4gb only 9mb free
D Drive 27Gb 24gb free
We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent.

I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e
drive.
When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over
1 gig...

Anyone got any ideas??

Regards,

Jason Dwyer



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