RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5
Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day. Thanks for all the expert advise. Have done these a couple of times without knowing need to check whether the transaction logs are committed. This is the first time I read abt this. Lucky I did not lost any thing in the past. -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 There are several, this one isn't bad. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751 Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Interesting, do you know what technet article? I am curious to read its explanation. I still wouldn't do it, but just curious! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point and not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to work out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this volume which can be moved or compressed? Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous! Hey William... jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log building up. You need to remove some log files manually. Move all log files before today. I assumed any transaction log older than today have been committed to the Information Stores. Be careful don't touch these 3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log. Don't know what these is but saw it since the day Exchange is installed. -Original Message- From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5 We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a while back. Anyway, the information store won't start up because it says the transaction logs are too full. I re-enabled circular logging, but the information store still won't start. Any ideas? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5
I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even attempt such a thing! Just my thoughts.. Jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day. Thanks for all the expert advise. Have done these a couple of times without knowing need to check whether the transaction logs are committed. This is the first time I read abt this. Lucky I did not lost any thing in the past. -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 There are several, this one isn't bad. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751 Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Interesting, do you know what technet article? I am curious to read its explanation. I still wouldn't do it, but just curious! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point and not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to work out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this volume which can be moved or compressed? Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous! Hey William... jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log building up. You need to remove some log files manually. Move all log files before today. I assumed any transaction log older than today have been committed to the Information Stores. Be careful don't touch these 3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log. Don't know what these is but saw it since the day Exchange is installed. -Original Message- From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5 We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a while back. Anyway, the information store won't start up because it says the transaction logs are too full. I re-enabled circular logging, but the information store still won't start. Any ideas? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
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RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5
The server is properly designed with the logs on its own partition. Just at the moment when the Information Store stops and the event viewer says the drive where transaction logs sits are full, a few of us just stop thinking. Rushing through the Technet article and one article suggest this and we just go ahead. After this when the second time happens we just proceed as usual without suspecting anything. Never come across the article mentioned by Marty Richards. In this line everyday is a learning. Even something you\ thought you knew turned up to be wrong. -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even attempt such a thing! Just my thoughts.. Jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day. Thanks for all the expert advise. Have done these a couple of times without knowing need to check whether the transaction logs are committed. This is the first time I read abt this. Lucky I did not lost any thing in the past. -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 There are several, this one isn't bad. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751 Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Interesting, do you know what technet article? I am curious to read its explanation. I still wouldn't do it, but just curious! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point and not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to work out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this volume which can be moved or compressed? Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous! Hey William... jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log building up. You need to remove some log files manually. Move all log files before today. I assumed any transaction log older than today have been committed to the Information Stores. Be careful don't touch these 3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log. Don't know what these is but saw it since the day Exchange is installed. -Original Message- From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5 We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a while back. Anyway, the information store won't start up because it says the transaction logs are too full. I re-enabled circular logging, but the information store still won't start. Any ideas? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter
RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5
Exchange wisdom once held that the logs should be on a fat partition due to the sequential access speed. Nowadays faster hardware compensates nicely so its not as important, but there are plenty of legacy servers with the old configuration. If you lose the transaction logs the information store usually becomes inconsistent and the info store service refuses to start with a service specific error message. Nasty stuff. Sometimes you can jig it with eseutil, but that works by deleting the invalid pages and causes definite data losses. Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even attempt such a thing! Just my thoughts.. Jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day. Thanks for all the expert advise. Have done these a couple of times without knowing need to check whether the transaction logs are committed. This is the first time I read abt this. Lucky I did not lost any thing in the past. -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 There are several, this one isn't bad. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751 Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Interesting, do you know what technet article? I am curious to read its explanation. I still wouldn't do it, but just curious! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point and not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to work out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this volume which can be moved or compressed? Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous! Hey William... jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log building up. You need to remove some log files manually. Move all log files before today. I assumed any transaction log older than today have been committed to the Information Stores. Be careful don't touch these 3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log. Don't know what these is but saw it since the day Exchange is installed. -Original Message- From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5 We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a while back. Anyway, the information store won't start up because it says the transaction logs are too full. I re-enabled circular logging, but the information store still won't start. Any ideas? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
Moderated Newsgroup in NNTP Exchange 2000
Hi! i am setting up news server on my exchange 2000. when i set moderated option on newsgroup property i do get posted messages in email to administrator. But the question is that how do i approve these messages so that they are posted on the newsgroup?? regards S. Ahmed List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5
Yea, I have a bad taste in my mouth left from my first days with exchange. I pulled a move so freakin dumb, I lost a lot of mail, that I didn't recover. Now I am so paranoid, I read constantly, and never attempt anything critical without refreshing my notes! Anyway, just cuz MS has kb article on any technique, I am still using my own judgment. You guys are right, everyday is a learning experience when it comes to computers! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:37 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Exchange wisdom once held that the logs should be on a fat partition due to the sequential access speed. Nowadays faster hardware compensates nicely so its not as important, but there are plenty of legacy servers with the old configuration. If you lose the transaction logs the information store usually becomes inconsistent and the info store service refuses to start with a service specific error message. Nasty stuff. Sometimes you can jig it with eseutil, but that works by deleting the invalid pages and causes definite data losses. Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:27 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't know what would happen, but presuming best case scenario, I would ponder a guess you did loose info and didn't know it, how would you know anyway! If a few users lost a couple of emails, it might not even hit your desk. A scary procedure, if the server was properly designed, the logs are on an ntfs partition, so I would never even attempt such a thing! Just my thoughts.. Jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Sorry was occupied by meetings for the whole day. Thanks for all the expert advise. Have done these a couple of times without knowing need to check whether the transaction logs are committed. This is the first time I read abt this. Lucky I did not lost any thing in the past. -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 There are several, this one isn't bad. http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q259751 Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Interesting, do you know what technet article? I am curious to read its explanation. I still wouldn't do it, but just curious! jlc -Original Message- From: Marty Richards [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 9:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 They are committed - up to a point. The fun part is finding that point and not deleting past it... there are technet notes which describe how to work out where the checkpoint is, and therefore which logs can be removed. Personally though I'd take the compression and backup/flush option if available - easy and relatively safe. Is there anything else on this volume which can be moved or compressed? Cheers, Marty -Original Message- From: Joe L. Casale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 I don't think that's right buddy, they aren't committed until you backup, then they are flushed. They should be an ntfs partition, a better solution is to compress a few, then back the darn thing up. If those logs aren't committed, I don't know wtf would happen if you removed them and backed up, but it sounds dangerous! Hey William... jlc -Original Message- From: ONG Liang Bu (CSC) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 6:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Transaciton logs in 5.5 Happen to me before when backup giving problems and the transaction log building up. You need to remove some log files manually. Move all log files before today. I assumed any transaction log older than today have been committed to the Information Stores. Be careful don't touch these 3 files - edb.log, res1.log, res2.log. Don't know what these is but saw it since the day Exchange is installed. -Original Message- From: Scott Burgin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 4:20 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Transaciton logs in 5.5 We had to turn off circular logging for Arcserver to backup exchnage a while back. Anyway, the information store won't start up because it says the transaction logs are too full. I re-enabled circular logging, but the information store still won't start. Any ideas?
permissions problems!!
Whilst playing with my permissions on my ex2k server, I managed to deny 'everyone' access to the one server in our site. Obviously without thinking that it would lock out the users who were explicitly granted access!! Hence I now have a dead exchange server. Does anyone know how to help? Thought I may have to use adsi edit or the like to sort it out... but not sure. Thanks in advance Kieran Fitzgerald List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: unhold
Id like to continue holding. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: unhold
Press the red button first, then the flashing one. - Original Message - From: Gary Gregg To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: unhold List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: unhold
Press the red button first, then the flashing one. - Original Message - From: Gary Gregg To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: unhold List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook Error
The quick way, right? Re-resolve the profile by re-typing the server in the Profile screen. If not, 1) Fire up regedit and find \HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\WIndows NT\Current Version\Windows Messaging Subsystem\Profiles\YOURPROFILENAME (this will change if your using Windows 9*) 2) You will have to look at each subkey and find any that have the 001e3006 marked as Microsoft Exchange Server and 001e3001 will contain the name of the additional mailbox 3) Remove this subkey. Kevin -Original Message- From: Callan, Chris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 14:28 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook Error Ok, I am running into a problem, that I don't know how to solve. When I open Outlook I have it set to open up the PostMaster's mailbox. Now from time to time I have to open up another users mailbox while using my profile. So I will go to servers and click on properties of Microsoft Exchange Server, click on advanced and add an the additional mailbox to mine. When I am finished with the work that I need to do I go back into services and remove it. For some reason after a day or too, I see that it still is opening the mailbox up, but it isn't listed in the additional mailboxes portion of my profile. How do I get this out without having to recreate my profile? Chris List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions
Title: Message Thanks guys for your thoughts. We'll be following your suggestions to not put OWA in the DMZ and will look into both URLScan and IISLockdown as well as SecureIIS. cheers, Patrick Ribbons -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: January 14, 2002 5:32 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions it is an option.. however be aware this version is very IIS patch aware. If you're not running the latest, most current patches, you might run into more trouble that you wish you hadn't. I found problems in my testing as we have sites that are not on the most current patches(yet). Nice thing about SECUREIIS is that it doesn't care... you didn't even need any patches if you don't want too.. We do.. but the eEye engine doesn't really care.. It's already guarded against those vulnerabilities. -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:57 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions Neat! Also for E2K: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309677 -Original Message-From: Dan Yarrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:56 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions That areticle seems to be posted after the original versions. In the install of ver 2 its simply an option you select for "Microsoft Exchange OWA system" -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 07:49To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions Just be aware: http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;EN-US;q309508 -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions On your OWA server? -Original Message-From: Dan Yarrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 1:46 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions o you could just use URLScan and IISLockdown from Microsoft for nothing.. :) -Original Message-From: Rick Ward - HQ [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, 15 January 2002 07:01To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions 100% agree with Mr. William.. I also recommend a product for IIS called SECUREIIS by eEye.com. It works very well with IIS 4.0/5.0 and protects against virtually any DOS/Hack attacks. Costs about $800 per server, and very reasonable for what it does. MS is looking at it as well. Between that, SSL and a Firewall you can be assured you're very well protected... Only thing better would be Apache on OpenBSD, but that's another can-o-worms. -Rick -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:55 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions You don't really gain anything putting the OWA part in the DMZ. OWA acts as what I call "MAPI-by-proxy" so the number of holes you need to punch in the internal firewall basically denigrates your DMZ. William -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 11:49 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: DMZ, OWA and Exchange 5.5 questions greetings Has anyone set up OWA in a DMZ, where the server that OWA resides on is not part of the domain on the internal network? Is this possible? We're using NT 4 with Exchange 5.5, latest sp for those versions. We're in the process of scoping out whether this can be done and have been looking through technet, Slipstick, Swynk and a few other sites but haven't really found the answer. tia for any input or guidance. Patrick Ribbons List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
MSExchange Pop3 Interface error
Group, My Exchange 5.5, NT 4.0 server froze on me Friday. I am tying to figure out what it was that caused this. I ran across this error in the event log and I am not sure what it means. I tried searching for this on the Microsoft's Exchange Support but had no luck. Anyone have a clue? Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchange Pop3 Interface Event Category: Configuration Event ID: 13008 Date: 1/11/2002 Time: 6:19:13 PM User: N/A Computer: Lizmail Description: A FormatMessage operation for message 0xfbd3 failed. Returning NULL. Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error
Title: RE: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error Try this website: http://www.eventid.net/events.asp Look up your event ID and it should give you some more information. -Original Message- From: Scott Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:24 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: MSExchange Pop3 Interface error Group, My Exchange 5.5, NT 4.0 server froze on me Friday. I am tying to figure out what it was that caused this. I ran across this error in the event log and I am not sure what it means. I tried searching for this on the Microsoft's Exchange Support but had no luck. Anyone have a clue? Event Type: Error Event Source: MSExchange Pop3 Interface Event Category: Configuration Event ID: 13008 Date: 1/11/2002 Time: 6:19:13 PM User: N/A Computer: Lizmail Description: A FormatMessage operation for message 0xfbd3 failed. Returning NULL. Scott Oliver Liz Claiborne Shoes Computer Operations Supervisor Microsoft Exchange Administrator List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message-From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Open relay
Title: Open relay Hi all, I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay. I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail. I don't have the need to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but... I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server. Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open. Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!! Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Open relay
Title: Open relay I just solved this same problem. Set your routing to route incoming SMTP, to your domain. Then, go to routing restrictions, and select the box that says only users that have authenticated. Then, in Outlook, under the properties for any POP accounts you have, select the box that says the outgoing server requires authentication, and set the authentication account to the same as the network login. Hope this helps. It worked for me. Joseph L. Heaton, MCSE NT Administrator FDI Consulting, Inc. 1610 Arden Way, Suite 145 Sacramento, CA 95815 (916)921-4390 x.228 -Original Message-From: mark verschaeve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open relay Hi all, I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay. I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail. I don't have the need to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but... I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server. Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open. Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!! Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Pop3 Configuration
Is it possible to configure a 5.5 server to allow clients to login to server via Pop3 without the extra login information. Example : assembly/mip01/alan.osborne - Current Way alan.osborne - The login ID I want. Thanks, Alan Osborne List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things -Original Message-From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message-From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Open relay
Title: Message Mark, It's Mail Essentials causing the problem. I have the same setup on my Exchange server with Mail Essentials. We we're using a third party service that we were paying a monthly fee for to prevent us being used as an open relay, and mgmt made the decision to discontinue that. When I did, we were open for relay and I and another exchange admin spent days working on it, going through every tech net article we could find from MS, and were beginning to doubt our ability to read and follow the directions in the articles. We ended up making a $250.00 call to MS support and when the tech telnetted into my exchange server to look at it.he found that Mail Essentials was actually acting as the incoming mail gateway, not exchange, and that it was allowing everything to come in.I believe that there are settings in Mail Essentials that will prevent mail relay, but since we wanted it locked down immediately and not risk any more time being open to relay and decided that we would continue with our third party solution for now. You shouldcontact GFI and get help from their tech support on what to do in Mail Essentials to prevent relaying, I've always had wonderful technical support from them when I've contacted them. Good luck, Sherry -Original Message-From: mark verschaeve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open relay Hi all, I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay. I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail. I don't have the need to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but... I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server. Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open. Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!! Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Event ID: 9188 is driving me nuts
Okay, I have an Exchange 2000 server running on a Windows 2000 advanced server (no cluster) and as I check My event logs I find the following error in my App log: Event Type:ErrorEvent Source:MSExchangeSAEvent Category:General Event ID:9188Date:1/15/2002Time:9:42:31 AMUser:N/AComputer:host nameDescription:Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group 'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=*,dc=*,dc=com'. Error code '8007203a'. Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into the group manually and restart all the services. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Now, I will inform youas for the rest of my logs everythingis coming up "BLUE" =). While I have perused the link associated with this error I kindly get redirected to a MSdoc page that displays the ever so wonderful " Exchange 2000 Server Event and Error Messages Unfortunately, at this time there is no information available for Source:MSExchangeSA, EventID:9188." While I found this to be disappointing I followed up by searching Technet and the MS knowledge base,I was pleased to find two Q articles Q260914 and Q294176 that has somehow shed some light on the subject. Q260914 - CAUSE "This problem can occur because Setup searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if they are not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups do not exist." Oh, butthey do exist I am looking right at them. STATUS "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server." OK, so what do I do?I received NO errors while running Forest prep or domain prep and while this seems to affect public folder publishing in AD i.e : Event Type:WarningEvent Source:MSExchangeISEvent Category:General Event ID:9543Date:1/15/2002Time:9:43:11 AMUser:N/AComputer:host nameDescription:"Unable to create Public Folder proxy object for folder "OAB Version 2" in the Active Directory." This message is only getting displayed as a result of the 9188 error. The funny thing is that aside from the messages Exchange is working and is showing no outward affects or problem as of yet. Help! this is driving me nuts! Thanks and regards AlV List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Directory Service Mailbox
Exh 5.5 Sp4 on NT4.0 sp6a I recently came across an article about cleaning the Directory Service mailbox and thought I would examine it and see if it needed to be cleaned. In following the instructions, I opened the Admin program in raw mode and opened the mailbox resources folder under the private information store but find no Directory Service mailbox. I do see the System Attendant Mailbox and the IMS mailbox which seem to be special hidden mailboxes like the DS mailbox mentioned in the article. This has not seemed to effect our exchange server as there are no errors and everything seems to be working fine. Is my exchange missing something or am I looking for something that does not really exist. Thanks -Dave Vantine List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Event ID: 9188 is driving me nuts
I had this exact same problem. But when I had it i couldn't create users. it would create them but never assign an e-mail address or create a mailbox. I fixed this buy reapplying SP2. Keith NelsonNetwork AdministratorOrange County High School of the Arts[EMAIL PROTECTED](714) 560-0900 ex5910 -Original Message-From: Albert Vasquez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 8:29 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Event ID: 9188 is driving me nuts Okay, I have an Exchange 2000 server running on a Windows 2000 advanced server (no cluster) and as I check My event logs I find the following error in my App log: Event Type:ErrorEvent Source:MSExchangeSAEvent Category:General Event ID:9188Date:1/15/2002Time:9:42:31 AMUser:N/AComputer:host nameDescription:Microsoft Exchange System Attendant failed to read the membership of group 'cn=Exchange Domain Servers,cn=Users,dc=*,dc=*,dc=com'. Error code '8007203a'. Please check whether the local computer is a member of the group. If it is not, stop all the Microsoft Exchange services, add the local computer into the group manually and restart all the services. For more information, click http://www.microsoft.com/contentredirect.asp. Now, I will inform youas for the rest of my logs everythingis coming up "BLUE" =). While I have perused the link associated with this error I kindly get redirected to a MSdoc page that displays the ever so wonderful " Exchange 2000 Server Event and Error Messages Unfortunately, at this time there is no information available for Source:MSExchangeSA, EventID:9188." While I found this to be disappointing I followed up by searching Technet and the MS knowledge base,I was pleased to find two Q articles Q260914 and Q294176 that has somehow shed some light on the subject. Q260914 - CAUSE "This problem can occur because Setup searches for these groups in only the default user container, and if they are not in the default user container Setup determines that the groups do not exist." Oh, butthey do exist I am looking right at them. STATUS "Microsoft has confirmed this to be a problem in Microsoft Exchange 2000 Server." OK, so what do I do?I received NO errors while running Forest prep or domain prep and while this seems to affect public folder publishing in AD i.e : Event Type:WarningEvent Source:MSExchangeISEvent Category:General Event ID:9543Date:1/15/2002Time:9:43:11 AMUser:N/AComputer:host nameDescription:"Unable to create Public Folder proxy object for folder "OAB Version 2" in the Active Directory." This message is only getting displayed as a result of the 9188 error. The funny thing is that aside from the messages Exchange is working and is showing no outward affects or problem as of yet. Help! this is driving me nuts! Thanks and regards AlVList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Open relay
Title: Open relay Try http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Print.cfm?articleID=7696 Worked for me JasonCordingley -Original Message- From: mark verschaeve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 15:46 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Open relay Hi all, I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay. I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail. I don't have the need to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but... I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server. Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open. Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!! Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things Think that's what he means? :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Event ID 9322 ***ever 10 Min***
Title: Event ID 9322 ***ever 10 Min*** I am receiving the following event ID between 2 servers in the same site. The MTA code is 1722 which looks as a DNS issue. These are both Windows 2000 Adv. Server, SP2, Exchange Server 5.5 SP4. I brought up a windows 2000 internal dns server which seemed to remove the problem, or help, I was having. The problem was that once both servers were up and running, after a short time, mail would stay in the MTA que. I then told my IMS connection to use DNS on the connections tab and mail started flowing again. Can anyone tell me why I am rec. this every 10 min. (event ID 9322)? Yesterday I was rec. this as well as event ID's 289 and 1294 but these are gone now. Thanks for your help in advance. Todd White System Administrator LaserComm Inc. 972-941-0276 Voice 972-941-0223 Fax The contents of this e-mail and any attachments are the property of LaserComm Inc, its subsidiaries or licensors and are intended to be private and confidential. This material is intended solely for the individual to whom it is addressed. The material is protected by various laws, including those related to copyright and trade secret, and may not be used, copied or distributed without the express permission of LaserComm Inc. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender by return e-mail and delete the correspondence. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
Well you know when you send a message and it keeps on looping to the same people I think that will qualify for redundancy. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things Think that's what he means? :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
how-to close an open relay on E2K
Title: Open relay Okay if you are operating an Exchange 2000 server the following steps need to be followed for securing your server and preventing an open mail relay. 1. Start the system manager expand your administrative group (if your using one) in which the server you want to use resides. 2. In the console tree, navigate to the protocols container. Expand the servers, expand the server you want to work with then expand Protocols 3. In the console tree expand SMTP. Right click the virtual server that you wan to work with and select properties. 4.Click the access tab, and then click Relay. You should now see the Relay Restrictions dialog box. 5.To grant relay rights to specific computers and deny relay rights to all others, click Only the list below. 6.To deny relay for specific computers and grant all others the right to relay, click All Except the list below. 7. Create the grant or deny list, click add ,and thenin the computer dialog box specify a single machine, or a group of computers or a domain. for a single machine type the IP address for the computer for a group of computers type the subnet address and the subnet mask for a domain type the FQDN in the field. 8.click ok note: when you grant or deny based on domain there will be a performance hit while it does a reverse lookup. I also defined the who could make a connection to port 25 for an added level of security. To do this follow these steps: 1. Start the system manager expand your administrative group (if your using one) in which the server you want to use resides. 2. In the console tree, navigate to the protocols container. Expand the servers, expand the server you want to work with then expand Protocols 3. In the console tree expand SMTP. Right click the virtual server that you want to work with and select properties. 4.click the connections in the access tab. 5.To grant relay rights to specific computers and deny relay rights to all others, click Only the list below. 6.To deny relay for specific computers and grant all others the right to relay,click All Except the list below. 7. Create the grant or deny list, click add ,and then in the computer dialog box specify a single machine, or a group of computers or a domain. for a single machine type the IP address for the computer for a group of computers type the subnet address and the subnet mask for a domain type the FQDN in the field. 8.click ok note: If you use an Enterprise Monitor and monitor the SMTP port 25 make sure you add it to the grant list. That's it AlV -Original Message-From: Jason Cordingley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:41 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: Open relay Try http://www.exchangeadmin.com/Articles/Print.cfm?articleID=7696 Worked for me JasonCordingley -Original Message-From: mark verschaeve [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 15:46To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: Open relay Hi all, I have a problem that my exchange server is on open relay. I already tried several settings, but a telnet-session still gives the possibility to send spam mail. I don't have the need to route to another server or so. It's a single domain, one exchange server, so the simplest configuration, but... I'm running NT4 SP6A and exchange 5.5 SP4 Also I have mails essentials installed on the same server. Even when i set routing to don't reroute I'm still open. Do I hav to re-apply the SP4, or can someone give me the exact settings? Thanks a lot, because we where spammed twice already!!! Mark Verschaeve, IT-manager Mortier NV List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages
This is like pulling teeth... Are the users on the same exchange box? Is the message going to the internet? -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 09:22 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Well you know when you send a message and it keeps on looping to the same people I think that will qualify for redundancy. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: Glen Macdonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:34 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things Think that's what he means? :) --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And you still haven't said what the problem is... redundant messages could mean a lot of things -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 08:03 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Well it's on W2k Exchange 5.5. Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Start by telling us what OS, Mail Server, etc. And what is the problem -Original Message- From: Cardona, Cris [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 07:41 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages What to do to troubleshoot a redundant messaging problem? Cris Cardona Exchange Administrator Clear Channel Worldwide [EMAIL PROTECTED] (W) 210.258.3753 (F) 210.258.3701 List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm __ Do You Yahoo!? Send FREE video emails in Yahoo! Mail! http://promo.yahoo.com/videomail/ List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Opening Office 2000 attachments.
I have set something up completely incorrect on either my Office 2000 or on my Outlook 2000. When I send an Office attachment to my users, they can not open the file. If they have the Office 2000 product open (word, excel, etc...) then my attachment opens fine. What do I need to do so they don't have to keep the office products open all day?? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Email Groups
If you send to a group and this person is a member of the group, there is no way to keep them from getting the message. Unless of course you remove them from the group list before sending. Peter Dahl. -Original Message- From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Groups When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4 is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within that group? -- Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: PST files...
Title: RE: PST files... I have tried this numerous times with different mailboxes, exporting the mailbox, simply copying the mailbox but it never works. I know that I have heard about problems relating to the read only issue, but ALL mailboxes that I have attempted give me the same errors. My work around, zipping then burning to cd works, but is a PITA and driving me crazy. Thanks for the comment, MZ -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: PST files... The read only issue is well know, the second part of your problem I have not seen. Maybe it was corrupted during the burn process. It is no reason that you can't burn pst's to cd rom. -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST files... Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error saying file access is denied. After playing around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. The only way around this that I have found is to zip the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service packs. Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?
Hello - I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue... ISSUE: I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server... just specific existing individuals. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Email Groups
I'll make it a hat trick. Bill and Peter are correct. There is no way to address a message to a distribution list and then Exempt a particular address from the list in the commercial version of the product. However, in the Defense Messaging System version of the product, that function is available. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha -Original Message- From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Groups When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4 is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within that group? -- Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
FW: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and acti on t aken.
Not sure why my earlier message was quarantined... I guess redundant messages are considered sensitive materials to some companies. :) -Original Message- From: System Attendant [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:35 PM To: Dahl, Peter Subject: ScanMail Message: To Sender, sensitive content found and action t aken. Trend SMEX Content Filter has detected sensitive content. Place = MS-Exchange Admin Issues; ; ; MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sender = Dahl, Peter Subject = RE: Where do I Start Troubleshooting Redundant Messages Delivery Time = January 15, 2002 (Tuesday) 11:35:02 Policy = Anti-Spam Action on this mail = Quarantine message Warning message from administrator: Content filter has detected a sensitive e-mail. This communication is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, (i) please do not read or disclose to others, (ii) please notify the sender by reply mail, and (iii) please delete this communication from your system. Failure to follow this process may be unlawful. Thank you for your cooperation. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: PST files...
Title: Message I would agree with this. -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 9:46 AMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: PST files... The read only issue is well know, the second part of your problem I have not seen. Maybe it was corrupted during the burn process. It is no reason that you can't burn pst's to cd rom. -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST files... Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error saying file access is denied. After playing around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. The only way around this that I have found is to zip the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service packs. Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Email Groups
No :( -Original Message- From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:05 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Groups When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4 is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within that group? -- Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
GDY appended to display name
Hi, sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has given me some ideas which I want to check with y'all. Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with others). We have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties look clean (display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2. So, if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for searching through to see where this GDY might be coming from. I am somewhat familiar with these tools, but I am more than sure some of you have more experience and can point me in the right direction here. Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here :-) Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + IGamedayInternational N.V.Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Email Groups
Who is Bill? William -Original Message- From: John Matteson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Email Groups I'll make it a hat trick. Bill and Peter are correct. There is no way to address a message to a distribution list and then Exempt a particular address from the list in the commercial version of the product. However, in the Defense Messaging System version of the product, that function is available. John Matteson; Exchange Manager Geac Corporate Infrastructure Systems and Standards (404) 239 - 2981 Believe nothing because it is written in books. Believe nothing because wise men say it is so. Believe nothing because it is religious doctrine. Believe it only because you yourself know it to be true. -- Buddha -Original Message- From: Kiernan, Margaret M. (x2255) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Email Groups When replying to a group within Outlook (2000) running on Exchange 5.5, SP4 is there any way to eliminate the reply going to a particular user within that group? -- Privileged/Confidential Information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. In such case, you should destroy this message and kindly notify the sender by reply email. Please advise immediately if you or your employer do not consent to Internet email for messages of this kind. == List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
ntbackup? - Original Message - From: Howie Pince [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 14:18 Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: How do I eliminate specific individuals?
MICHèLE SHARIK Pretend for a moment that I'm not psychic and provide the version and sp level, please. /MICHèLE SHARIK For Exchange5.5: Section 3.6: http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq_sec3.htm For Exchange2000: Section 5.3: http://www.swinc.com/resource/e2kfaq_sec5.htm William -Original Message- From: Ignash, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:40 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals? Hello - I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue... ISSUE: I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server... just specific existing individuals. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
The admin training alone would cost more than SBS. Then there is the explaining to management about missing functionality. Perhaps Ellison's Oracle messaging application? William -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server
oops...forgot to add Unless it is hidden. -Jim -Original Message- From: Jim Holmgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server Open a new email (assuming Outlook) and type in [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hit Tools...Check Names. It should resolve to the display name of the mailbox that has that SMTP address. -Jim Jim Holmgren MCSE, CCNA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Network Engineer Advertising.com We bring innovation to interactive communication. Advertising.com -- Superior Technology. Superior Performance. -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:51 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: looking for an email address on the exchange server Hi everyone, Running ex5.5 sp4 on win 2k server We recently rehired a used and had deleted the individuals mailbox months ago. I have recreated her mailbox but cannot add the smtp address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its coming up saying that it already exists. Im not sure if someone entered this smtp address into someone elses mailbox so that they would receive her emails. It was kind of stupid to do that but is there a way that you can search for this smtp address on the exchange server? Can I run a search that will allow me to locate which mailbox, or public folder this smtp address might be connected to? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm *** The information transmitted in this email is intended only for the person(s) or entity to which it is addressed and may contain confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, retransmission, dissemination or other use of, or taking of any action in reliance upon, this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient is prohibited. If you received this email in error, please contact the sender and permanently delete the email from any computer. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective dirtbag way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or so to stop. PS Don't be offended by the Dirtbag moniker- it's nothing personal. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: looking for an email address on the exchange server
Hidden mailbox maybe? B -Original Message- From: Sethi, Ali [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 15 January 2002 09:51 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: looking for an email address on the exchange server Hi everyone, Running ex5.5 sp4 on win 2k server We recently rehired a used and had deleted the individuals mailbox months ago. I have recreated her mailbox but cannot add the smtp address of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Its coming up saying that it already exists. Im not sure if someone entered this smtp address into someone elses mailbox so that they would receive her emails. It was kind of stupid to do that but is there a way that you can search for this smtp address on the exchange server? Can I run a search that will allow me to locate which mailbox, or public folder this smtp address might be connected to? Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks, List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Toughest part of the job, they want everything and want to pay for NOTHING... Thanks, Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? The admin training alone would cost more than SBS. Then there is the explaining to management about missing functionality. Perhaps Ellison's Oracle messaging application? William -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a restore server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep
Ok, I running Exchange 2000. What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been prepped? In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server. Now there was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done /forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again when building this most recent one. But without thinking I did. The rest of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information Stores won't mount. So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason. I am not hugely concerned. Though rebuilding the test environment would be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I am more just curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep
I don't *think* so. It will attempt the same schema changes. William -Original Message- From: Mike Rausch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep Ok, I running Exchange 2000. What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been prepped? In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server. Now there was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done /forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again when building this most recent one. But without thinking I did. The rest of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information Stores won't mount. So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason. I am not hugely concerned. Though rebuilding the test environment would be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I am more just curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: Message BLB would be backing up individual mailboxes/messages...which would require a backup software that is specifically designed for Exchange. Works relatively well in Veritas. "What doyou use to backup data files", I meant documents, spreadsheets, presentations etc., (sorry I didn't make that clear). EG, we use Veritas Backup Exec with the Exchange agent and other agents to backup our network. Veritas Backup Exec was a large investment, but the agents that we added on were around 200 each. It's a low cost option if you already have something in place. On the zero $$$ options, I would recommend William's 3rd option. Stop the Exchange Services, copy the *.edb files to another server on your network, not the Exchange server, then it could be placed onyour regular network backup and you could recover from there. You could get yourself the $$$ to get a "real" backup solution by deleting some important messages from some upper level managers mailbox and then tell them you cannot restore them because you have not a backup that can restore individual messages. But, I didn't say that.:) -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ok that will backup the stores, but what if something takes the WHOLE box down? Can't restore the dir.edb without a recovery server, can't create a recovery server with SBS? Will try your suggestion, atleast that would cover it if the store becomes corrupt. Thanks much Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:00 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective "dirtbag" way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or so to stop. PS Don't be offended by the "Dirtbag" moniker- it's nothing personal. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a "restore" server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? BLB's are specific Backup Software that useMAPI to individually log into mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do with pst's. I highly urge you to go to: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange Go to the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White Paper. I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable. -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I agree, you can even write a batch file that stops the services ("net stop bla bla bla") and Xcopies it to another share, then restarts the services. You can schedual it to happen after hours .. worked for me in the bad old days.. Later B -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: 15 January 2002 10:00To: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Williams solution (Stop Exchange, copy databases) is the cheapest and most effective "dirtbag" way of backing up Exchange with no budget. I highly recommend you stop what you are doing now and try it. Schedule Exchange to stop with the AT command and a batch file. The batch file should copy the databases after Exchange stops and then restart exchange. Remember that Exchange will need a 30 seconds or so to stop. PS Don't be offended by the "Dirtbag" moniker- it's nothing personal. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Ya right, and what, send mail? Come on We need robust groupware solution. I like the future of Linux, but send mail is weak. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com -Original Message- From: Dawn R. Ashford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget.. maybe a reference to Linux? -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I have been running NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running, but what good will that do if I can't restore it to anything? Dump SBS and go to what with ZERO budget? Last resort won't work either, I can't create a vailid restore server? Thanks for the ideas, but gonna need some more to get somewhere with this situation Howie IMHO: SOOO lame that you have to HAVE a "restore" server just to restore a DB? Suppose THAT ALSO has to have it's own License also huh??? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Preferred: 1) run NTBackup ON the SBS server while Exchange is running. or 2) dump SBS Last resort: 2) stop exchange services (net stop MSExchangeSA /y) and copy priv.edb, pub.edb, and dir.edb to a file location References: 3) http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/backuprestore.a sp http://www.microsoft.com/exchange/techinfo/administration/55/disaster.asp William Lefkovics, MCSE-NT4, MCSE-W2K, A+, ExchangeMVP --- Why just ride, when you can fly? http://www.airborne.net --- Rent this space: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That was my 'preferred' solution. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Read the white paper thanks, thats is where I found out why my restores to another box that don't have the same SAM will stop the dir service from starting on the target box. Agree it's a good read But still need to hear about the exmerge option from you guys? Thanks for your input Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:14 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? BLB's are specific Backup Software that useMAPI to individually log into mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do with pst's. I highly urge you to go to: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange Go to the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White Paper. I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable. -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htmList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That was my 'preferred' solution. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a "recovery server" and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here.
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server first? Just a thought. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That was my 'preferred' solution. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Stop the Exchange services prior to starting the backup and backup the exchsrvr directory as a flat file. If/when your server fails you should be able to restore the entire exchsrvr directory as long as the server has the same configuration as the original, such as the exchange org, site and server name. I'm also assuming you have store and forward capabilities with your ISP so mail will not be bounced while the services are stopped? todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] 01/15/02 12:53PM Read the white paper thanks, thats is where I found out why my restores to another box that don't have the same SAM will stop the dir service from starting on the target box. Agree it's a good read But still need to hear about the exmerge option from you guys? Thanks for your input Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com/ -Original Message- From: Micciche, Robert [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? BLB's are specific Backup Software that use MAPI to individually log into mailboxes and back them up one box at a time. Nothing to do with pst's. I highly urge you to go to: http://www.microsoft.com/exchange http://www.microsoft.com/exchange Go to the 5.5 section and find the MS Exchange 5.5 Disaster Recovery White Paper. I believe you will find that White Paper to be invaluable. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com http://www.superfabric.com/ -Original Message- From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:19 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Honestly, if I had no money, I would ask management what value they place on lost mail, and what they would be willing to pay to recover it. If they say 0, then don't back it up. -Original Message- From: Howie Pince [ mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 11:19 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Hey, Here's what I'm doing now and why? NT 4.0 sp6, Exchange 5.5 sp4. NO $$$ for backup software, so have been using Exmerge every day to dump out pst's to dat tape. Also been running directory export out of the exchange admin prog, so at least I have something to start a restore with. Also have been running NTBACKUP to dat, but the restore ALWAYS fails cause the dir.edb import restore on another SBS box has different SID's than the source box. MS say's create a recovery server and add it as a BDC to get a correct copy of the SAM BUT SBS can ONLY be a DC, so how can I get a copy of the SAM to the 2nd box? As of now I cant see a way around this recovery server issue and am ready to give up using NTBACKUP all together, cause as far as I can see, it cant be restored to anything. Any thoughts on a workaround for this, and using my present method of Exmerging everyday to DAT? Remember I have ZERO $$$ to work with here. Thanks much in advance.. Howie List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at:
Message Delays
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I seem to have some messages getting delayed inmy Exchange 2000Servers. Looking at message tracking for one message, there is about an 8 hour gap between "SMTP: Message Submitted to Categorizer" and "SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message" on the server the message was sent from. The only thing I can think of that might be out of the ordinary is that we use the "Send all unresolvable mail to" field as we have Sendmail alias lists that are in the same SMTP domain as the Exchange, sowe need a way for the messages to get forwarded to Sendmail. These seem to be the messages that are getting delayed. There could be delays with messages sent out to the Internet but It's less likely that I'd hear about those. I noticed the outbound SMTP queue always stays around 45 or so messages. Does this sound about right for an E2k server with 800users on it? Perhaps someone could point me in the right direction? The Environment:4 Win2kAdvSrv-SP2E2k-SP1 servers at various locations, one isset upas the front-end, behind a Sendmail server. Andrew K Sharicz List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Outlook question
Hi everybody I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their mail server is off site I have no idea what mail server they are using. Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: GDY appended to display name
Is GDY an acronym for something? Or are these letters actually appended? What other apps are on your Exchange Server? A/V? William -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GDY appended to display name Hi, sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has given me some ideas which I want to check with y'all. Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with others). We have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties look clean (display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2. So, if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for searching through to see where this GDY might be coming from. I am somewhat familiar with these tools, but I am more than sure some of you have more experience and can point me in the right direction here. Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here :-) Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: PST files...
It's much easier to archive mail using WNMailKeeper (www.wickett.net) - you can keep your archived mail on CD not have to worry about the read-only thing like with PST files. -Michèle, MOS+BP, TSCSP, soon to be a California Girl Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata has gone to live with Grandma for a little while: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - There are two theories to arguing with women. Neither one works. - -Original Message- From: Mike Zatkalik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:37 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: PST files... Trying to archive a number of pst files to a cd-rom, however when the pst's are copied off the cd I get an error saying file access is denied. After playing around for a bit, noticed it was read-only, changed that and now I get an error saying this isn't a personal folder file. The only way around this that I have found is to zip the file, burn to cd and when unzipped, it works fine. Anybody else seen this problem, or know a better way to do this? I am using O2K version 9.0.0.2711, no service packs. Mike Zatkalik List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Message Delays
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? e2k with 800 users on a Pentium is one thing. 800 users on a server with 4 processors 8 gb or RAM raid 5 with 6 36g hard drives, etc is other thing, so the number of recp without the hardware info is useless.. -Mensaje original-De: Sharicz, Andrew [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Enviado el: Martes, 15 de Enero de 2002 06:10 p.m.Para: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesAsunto: Message Delays I seem to have some messages getting delayed inmy Exchange 2000Servers. Looking at message tracking for one message, there is about an 8 hour gap between "SMTP: Message Submitted to Categorizer" and "SMTP: Started Outbound Transfer of Message" on the server the message was sent from. The only thing I can think of that might be out of the ordinary is that we use the "Send all unresolvable mail to" field as we have Sendmail alias lists that are in the same SMTP domain as the Exchange, sowe need a way for the messages to get forwarded to Sendmail. These seem to be the messages that are getting delayed. There could be delays with messages sent out to the Internet but It's less likely that I'd hear about those. I noticed the outbound SMTP queue always stays around 45 or so messages. Does this sound about right for an E2k server with 800users on it? Perhaps someone could point me in the right direction? The Environment:4 Win2kAdvSrv-SP2E2k-SP1 servers at various locations, one isset upas the front-end, behind a Sendmail server. Andrew K ShariczList Charter and FAQ at:http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook question
If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email. This does not allow for 'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time. However, teamfolders *might* be a solution. http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm William -Original Message- From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook question Hi everybody I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their mail server is off site I have no idea what mail server they are using. Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals?
http://www.swinc.com/resource/exch_faq.htm I think it's in Appendix C, but I might be mistaken. -Michèle, MOS+BP, TSCSP, soon to be a California Girl Immigration site: http://LadySun1969.tripod.com The Miata has gone to live with Grandma for a little while: http://members.cardomain.com/bpituley Tiggercam: http://www.tiggercam.co.uk - Flatulence (n.), the emergency vehicle that picks you up after you are run over by a steamroller. - -Original Message- From: Ignash, Brian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:40 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: How do I eliminate the send option for specific individuals? Hello - I was hoping somebody could help me with the following issue... ISSUE: I would like to set up certain exchange accounts to only be allowed to receive email. Is there a way to disable certain users exchange accounts from being able to send email but allows them to receive email? I do not want to disable the sending of emails to all individuals on the server... just specific existing individuals. Any assistance you can provide would be greatly appreciated. Thank you! List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: wow
Title: Message Yeah, I understood all of that. I meant the second thing you saidthat the form resides on the Exchange server. My point was mainly that you didnt need a third-party application; you can do it with just plain ol Exchange. -Original Message- From: Benjamin Winzenz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: wow OK - I am jumping in late on this, but I was gone yesterday. I'll say it again. Exchange is not involved in what attachments are shown/not shown. It is managed via an Outlook Form that is simply residing in a Public Folder. The client has a registry setting that forces it to check this form every time Outlook is launched, after which the extensions from the form are incorporated into the client. So, if by saying that you can manage the extensions through Exchange, you mean that the form resides ON the Exchange server, fine, but Exchange itself does not have this feature, and it is not an add-on feature either. Other than that, the client itself controls ALL of the hiding of the extensions specified, not the Exchange server. Ben Winzenz, MCSE Network/Systems Administrator Peregrine Systems -Original Message- From: Allen Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, January 14, 2002 5:50 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: wow You can adjust what attachments are shown through Exchange. But you can't block them or anything. It just hides them from Outlook as far as I can tell. -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, January 11, 2002 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: wow No, he is wrong. You cant control attachment types in Exchange regardless of the version of it or Outlook. You need a 3rd party product such as an Exchange AV system or content filter software to block attachments at the Exchange server. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? THANK YOU KDL!!! That IS the point I CAN NOT use the backed up dir.edb unless I can pull the SAM on the target box, MS suggests a "recovery server" as a BDC in the domain to has a correct copy of the SAM. KDL, your Idea is interesting, can one just pull the SAM off the source box and replace it on the target box? You'd think the SAM is live, and cant be copied, so boot disk time correct? Thanks guys. gals! Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server first? Just a thought. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That was my 'preferred' solution. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding agents for specific types of backups like Exchange, are usually not that cost prohibitive if you already own the main package... -Original Message- From: Martin Blackstone [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15,
RE: Outlook question
Find out the mail system for starters -Original Message- From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook question Hi everybody I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their mail server is off site I have no idea what mail server they are using. Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to???
Title: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I thought you said you READ the disaster recovery whitepapers. -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:44 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? THANK YOU KDL!!! That IS the point I CAN NOT use the backed up dir.edb unless I can pull the SAM on the target box, MS suggests a "recovery server" as a BDC in the domain to has a correct copy of the SAM. KDL, your Idea is interesting, can one just pull the SAM off the source box and replace it on the target box? You'd think the SAM is live, and cant be copied, so boot disk time correct? Thanks guys. gals! Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Everyone seems to have missed that he can't properly setup a recovery server. SBS only allows a DC not PDC and BDC. What about backing up the SAM using recover disk and restoring it (the SAM) to therecover server first? Just a thought. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 3:58 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I figured as much. Doesn't Exchange on SBS make NTBackup Exchange-aware? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:48 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That was my 'preferred' solution. -Original Message-From: Ray Zorz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:45 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? I must've missed something. Why can't NTBackup be used? Multiple servers? -Original Message-From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:22 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? That would be the equivalent of BLB. There are risks/issues you must assume in doing so. It is a good backup to your backups, expecially for the most important mailboxes, like the Exchange Administrator or CEO/CIO/EIEIO. (Assumption: Full backups... no incrementals, excrementals, differentials) Backups do a lot. There are two main components to backing up 'email'. The databases and the transaction logs. The logs contain information processed since the last full backup. Toast the database and the logs could potentially be 'replayed' to bring your system back to point of failure. A BLB/exmerge/offline backup will not allow for this. Online backups also provide other checking of your system and report to the application event log. William -Original Message-From: Howie Pince [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Sherry, Nothing besides, exmerging everday, and NTBACKUP to a dat tape that can only be restored to a recovery server that I cant create. Question, so is backing up pst's concidered a BLB or what is? Thanks. Howie Howie Pince Network Administrator A+, MCSE 2000 Higher Dimension Research Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 651-256-1987 www.superfabric.com -Original Message-From: Abercrombie, Sherry [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:31 PMTo: MS-Exchange Admin IssuesSubject: RE: No budget backups of exchange server on a SBS box, How to??? Or if you want to get $$$ to get a real Exchange backup solution stop doing what you're doing wait til someone in management says they need something restored and then tell them it's not available Out of curiosity, what are you using to backup data files? With most backup software, adding
RE: GDY appended to display name
My next question would be is anyone using Polish as their Windows language -Original Message- From: David N. Precht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:30 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GDY appended to display name http://www.acronymfinder.com/af-query.asp?String=exactAcronym=GDY -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 16:59 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: GDY appended to display name Is GDY an acronym for something? Or are these letters actually appended? What other apps are on your Exchange Server? A/V? William -Original Message- From: Clayton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 10:52 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: GDY appended to display name Hi, sorry to bang on about this again, but perhaps having a day off has given me some ideas which I want to check with y'all. Periodically, GDY is appended to my display name (along with others). We have no System Policies to define this, and all of the properties look clean (display name, alias, etc.) W2K E2K, both SP2. So, if I use ADSI edit, or ldp.exe, what is the best method for searching through to see where this GDY might be coming from. I am somewhat familiar with these tools, but I am more than sure some of you have more experience and can point me in the right direction here. Thanks in advance, and I hope I have put enough info in here :-) Clayton Doige IT Manager MCSE, MCP + I Gameday International N.V. Bound in a nutshell, King of infinite space... T: +5 999 736 0309 ext 4537 C: +5 999 563 1845 F: +5 999 733 1259 E: [EMAIL PROTECTED] List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook question
Thanks William -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook question If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email. This does not allow for 'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time. However, teamfolders *might* be a solution. http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm William -Original Message- From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook question Hi everybody I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their mail server is off site I have no idea what mail server they are using. Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Outlook question
No worries. Not much help though. :o/ William -Original Message- From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 2:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook question Thanks William -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Outlook question If their mail server is 'off site' then they likely are not using MAPI profiles and are using POP or IMAP to access email. This does not allow for 'shared calendars' as .pst files can only be accessed one at a time. However, teamfolders *might* be a solution. http://www.slipstick.com/dev/teamfolders.htm William -Original Message- From: mollahassani, parviz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 1:56 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Outlook question Hi everybody I hope some body can help me. I have a client who are using Olook 2000 some of the users share their calendar with others after a while they lose the their share and they have to go through the process of sharing again. Their mail server is off site I have no idea what mail server they are using. Any hint or help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep
Title: RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep *should* be okay since your not updating to anything new/different... only think I could think of is if you used a box that had a different SP(read:lesser SP) than the original, or current servers are running on and that somehow mucked it up. Guess you'll find out in a few days, eh?? ;) Don't think there would be much you could do about it now anyway? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:09 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep I don't *think* so. It will attempt the same schema changes. William -Original Message- From: Mike Rausch [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 12:12 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: An odd, but quick, question on Exchange 2k /forestprep Ok, I running Exchange 2000. What I am wondering is would it cause irreparable harm if you accidentally run setup with the /forestprep switch on a forest that had already been prepped? In our test environment we were rebuilding an Exchange server. Now there was already an Exchange server in the environment (so we had done /forestprep when we installed that one) so I didn't need to do it again when building this most recent one. But without thinking I did. The rest of the install seemed to go fine, but now the new servers Information Stores won't mount. So I am just wondering if it's because I ran the forestprep a second time or a different, yet unkown, reason. I am not hugely concerned. Though rebuilding the test environment would be an bit of a pain, it wouldn't be the end of the world. I am more just curious as I haven't been able to find any info from MS on this. Thanks List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Replicating a forign address book
Title: Message I'm wondering what the easiest way of doing this is... We've got an internal network, with a multihomed exchange 2000 server at the edge. An organisation we work with have their address book in an exchange 5.5 server. This address book can be used by anyone sitting on their network (which we have a line into) using Outlook. We don't trust the other organisation's network, so it is kept as a physically seperate network, and any computers that need to use resources on that network are multi-homed onto that network. Now, our CEO wants to be able to get to the other organisation's address book from his laptop when he's plugged into our internal network. I see myself as having a couple of options, and I'm wondering what the cleanest, easiest way of doing this is: A. Getting our exchange server to hold a copy of the remote address book. B. Getting our exchange server to 'proxy' the remote address book. C. Installing a linux router with NAT between the two networks, and giving the CEO's laptop access to the exchange server on the remote network. I'm wondering if someone can tell me, which of these options is possible, and what you'd have to do to achieve the goal? Thanks. Will Lotto. List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Urgent Running out of Drive space
Hi all, I have a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down to 9mb... I am starting to panic... Setup is as follows IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a Exchange 5.5 sp4 C Drive 4gb only 9mb free D Drive 27Gb 24gb free We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent. I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive. When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over 1 gig... Anyone got any ideas?? Regards, Jason Dwyer List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space
Where are the transaction logs? \\exchsrvr\mdbdata\edbx.log each should be 5120MB. Are these on the C:\ drive? Are they getting purged after full online backups? William -Original Message- From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space Hi all, I have a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down to 9mb... I am starting to panic... Setup is as follows IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a Exchange 5.5 sp4 C Drive 4gb only 9mb free D Drive 27Gb 24gb free We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent. I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive. When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over 1 gig... Anyone got any ideas?? Regards, Jason Dwyer List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space
Sorry, you said EVERYTHING is on the E:\ drive. Then I would look at pagefile.sys perhaps? Do you have some antivirus with a quarantine folder on C:\? -Original Message- From: Lefkovics, William [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space Where are the transaction logs? \\exchsrvr\mdbdata\edbx.log each should be 5120MB. Are these on the C:\ drive? Are they getting purged after full online backups? William -Original Message- From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space Hi all, I have a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down to 9mb... I am starting to panic... Setup is as follows IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a Exchange 5.5 sp4 C Drive 4gb only 9mb free D Drive 27Gb 24gb free We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent. I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive. When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over 1 gig... Anyone got any ideas?? Regards, Jason Dwyer List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
RE: Urgent Running out of Drive space
You don't show an E:\ drive in your explanation. Is it Mapped to C:\something-or-other by any chance?? -Original Message- From: Jason Dwyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2002 5:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space Hi all, I have a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down to 9mb... I am starting to panic... Setup is as follows IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a Exchange 5.5 sp4 C Drive 4gb only 9mb free D Drive 27Gb 24gb free We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent. I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive. When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over 1 gig... Anyone got any ideas?? Regards, Jason Dwyer List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm
Re: Urgent Running out of Drive space
Do you have Backup Exec flushing committed logs after backups? Can you download a utility like treesize (available at download.com ) to see which folder is taking up all the space? ~ -K.Borndale Network Administrator Sybari Software 631.630.8569 -direct dial 631.439.0689 -fax http://www.sybari.com One man's ceiling is another man's floor Jason Dwyer jdwyer@mcleandel To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mo.com.au [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: 01/15/02 08:10 PM Subject: Urgent Running out of Drive space Please respond to MS-Exchange Admin Issues Hi all, I have a little problem, my C drive on my exhchange server is down to 9mb... I am starting to panic... Setup is as follows IBM Server NT 4 service pack 6a Exchange 5.5 sp4 C Drive 4gb only 9mb free D Drive 27Gb 24gb free We use backup exec 8.6 with the exchange agent. I have run the optimiser and according to that everything is on the e drive. When I look at all the folders on the C drive they only amount to just over 1 gig... Anyone got any ideas?? Regards, Jason Dwyer List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm List Charter and FAQ at: http://www.sunbelt-software.com/exchange_list_charter.htm