RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
Actually OLK 2007 isn't needed, you can set this through OWA. John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families Sent to you from my Blackberry in the Cloud - Original Message - From: Tim Vander Kooi tvanderk...@expl.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Thu Mar 05 10:30:08 2009 Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Then blame the MUA for not doing something useful with the headers. :-) Yea, it's only been an Internet standard for *shocker* 11 years now. ;) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html Would also be nice to filter lists in the standard way (List-Id: header) as well instead of relying on sender (which can change). Gee, that one turns 8 yrs old this month. ;) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2919.html ~BangerOfTheLetsSupportStandardsDrum ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. That's your opinion; are you certain all the external users share it? ~JasonG ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 12:01 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox ... I don't want to have to pay to get my car's muffler fixed. We don't always get what we want. Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? It's Exchange/Outlook. A proper auto-responder would send the OOO notices to the SMTP reverse-path, which is *not* the RFC-822 From: header. Why Microsoft hasn't fixed it in 15 or so years, I have no idea. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
Case in point - this list. The following all sent OoO replies to my email, and should be horsewhipped until unconscious, just because they annoy me! :) Andy Shook Cardwell, Dick Michelle Dillard Shih, Henry Knoch, James W Jeremy Phillips Wolfgang Skeries SMREKAR, JACK Le Rouc, Jacques Muncy, Robert Abdulkareem Jama Jonathan Martino On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Only the first one - he's the martyr of the group! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Case in point - this list. The following all sent OoO replies to my email, and should be horsewhipped until unconscious, just because they annoy me! :) Andy Shook Cardwell, Dick Michelle Dillard Shih, Henry Knoch, James W Jeremy Phillips Wolfgang Skeries SMREKAR, JACK Le Rouc, Jacques Muncy, Robert Abdulkareem Jama Jonathan Martino On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:16 AM, Jason Gurtz jasongu...@npumail.com wrote: Yea, it's only been an Internet standard for *shocker* 11 years now. ;) http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html Point of order: It's an Internet Request For Comments, in the Standards Track, but is not an Internet Standard (STD); it only has Proposed status. See RFC-1796, Not All RFCs are Standards, http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1796, which (appropriately enough) is also not a standard. ;-) Would also be nice to filter lists in the standard way (List-Id: header) ... Indeed. It appears Sunbelt's listserv isn't doing that, either. I dunno if that's a Lyris limitation, or just configuration. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Be careful, your next boss may be reading this list. J John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 So much of what we call management consists in making it difficult for people to work. -- Peter Drucker From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Hell, most CIOs/CTOs aren't technologically savvy. :^) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Well, all I can say is that Mr. Arod, from Borger, TX isn't exactly living in a burgeoning metropolis of technological activity, primary business in that area is going to be agriculture. Less than 15000 population and in one of the two worst locations (IMNSHO) in Texas. The only reason to drive through Borger, and I have going to New Mexico and/or Colorado, is to get to another location ;) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to agree with that, but being a president of anything doesn't neccessarily mean they are well-versed in the details that organization's MO. At least thats been true for most of the organizations I have worked with. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net mailto:eddy%2bpublic%2bs...@noc.everquick.net ] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja
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Maybe that's so in your organization. In mine, it's okay. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) ��You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) �� You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ �� �� �� �� �� �� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ �� �� �� �� �� �� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~�� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninj��� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja �� �� �� �� �� �� �� ��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Maybe that's so in your organization. In mine, it's okay. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:06 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja�� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja�� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja�� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja�� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Not on tech/professional mailing lists. The email should be seperated if you cant accomplish it with rules. I've been doing this for years. I also use OOO's, but no one here would ever know it. -- ME2 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:27 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) � You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ � � � � � � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja��� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ � � � � � � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja��� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninj��� ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja � � � � � � � � ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja � � � � � � � � ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ � http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja � � � � � � � � ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) � You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ �� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Nin��~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ �� ��� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N
Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
It's common sense, really - if you're important enough that you receive external emails from customers on a regular basis, your customers are important enough to receive non-automated replies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:27, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell�� (352) 215-6944 Fa� (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) ��½ You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ �� http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N
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And they wouldn't know how to get off of it if they wanted to... :) From: Matteson, John H Jr USA Mr USA 25th SigBN (ITT) [mailto:john.matte...@afghan.swa.army.mil] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:22 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Be careful, your next boss may be reading this list. :) John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 So much of what we call management consists in making it difficult for people to work. -- Peter Drucker From: Don Guyer [mailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Hell, most CIOs/CTOs aren't technologically savvy. :^) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.commailto:don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Well, all I can say is that Mr. Arod, from Borger, TX isn't exactly living in a burgeoning metropolis of technological activity, primary business in that area is going to be agriculture. Less than 15000 population and in one of the two worst locations (IMNSHO) in Texas. The only reason to drive through Borger, and I have going to New Mexico and/or Colorado, is to get to another location ;) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to agree with that, but being a president of anything doesn't neccessarily mean they are well-versed in the details that organization's MO. At least thats been true for most of the organizations I have worked with. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.commailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.netmailto:eddy%2bpublic%2bs...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.commailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.commailto:dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.netmailto:jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.netmailto:s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com
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Brilliant Mr. Peck. tyvm -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add- on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cel��� (352) 215-6944 Fa� (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben
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Tall cliffsjumping people I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I just checked my Outlook (2007) rules, and they're already configured that way. It appears that Outlook does that by default. Does it really work? I have no idea. I don't know whether my OOFs go out to this list or not. -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell�� (352) 215-6944 Fa� (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) � You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office
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Maybe that's so in your organization. In mine, it's okay. Which is great, but I (for one) am not part of your organization so this does not hold. How about this: every time I get up to go to the restroom or get a cup of coffee I'll let you know I won't be able to respond right away via email. Oh but you say but I'll only be gone for 5 minutes which is within the timeframe of an expected reply. Alrighty, at lunch I'm gone for a half hour so I'll just let you know then--oh and also when I go home for the day since I won't respond for *ouch* over 12 hours. Ridiculous, yes... I think the point you're missing here is that email is not a real-time or even near real-time way of messaging, unlike say IM or a phone call which are designed for anything important enough to need an immediate or near-immediate reply. In fact, the only job description that's ever somewhat convincingly argued against this is some kind of account executive role. However, the outside individual is then certainly in the address book which once again removes the perceived need to send unsolicited and unwanted automated responses outside the org. Instead of trying to justify, you'll be better off to just say (like so many others have) I'm gonna do it and you can't stop me; make a filter. Yay, I've got five languages in my filter now and I still get OOFs due to some languages having more than one way to say out-of-office and several hundred languages missing. So much for scalability... ~JasonG ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I appreciate your input, but you're not in any more of a position to judge what's best for my position and organization than I am to judge for you. I'll make the best decisions I can based on my education and experience, and you do the same. It's certainly possible for us to differ without one of us being right and the other being wrong. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:54 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? It's common sense, really - if you're important enough that you receive external emails from customers on a regular basis, your customers are important enough to receive non-automated replies. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:27, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I just changed my Rule to incorporate Stop Processing More Rules. I'm out tomorrow, we'll see what happens. Oh and just in case it DOES work: I'll be out of the office tomorrow, returning on Monday. LOL Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:08 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Brilliant Mr. Peck. tyvm -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add- on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cel (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject
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Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukmailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I would have people like that whom I work with fairly regularly in my contacts list, then they would still get the updates. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukmailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja
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Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same treatment. *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title
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Very true, I have not - was just trying to imagine the reason an IT type in a school district would need to notify external senders - internal, sure. Oh well - in my world, I activate internal only OOO's - external vendors or partners I'm actively working with I notify ahead of time - the rest can wait a few days or a week (and I frequently monitor from my BB in case something comes up that REALLY requires attention). -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:34 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I would have people like that whom I work with fairly regularly in my contacts list, then they would still get the updates. From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.ushttp://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.commailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.ukmailto:r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image
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I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could
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Just wondering, but wouldn't you call first if the issue was truly urgent instead of emailing? If it's not truly urgent then...? BTW, my more courteous vendors (i.e. those that can expect regular purchases) are kind enough to email or even call me proactively, *before they leave*, letting me know the dates, who I can mail in their absence and would I like to expedite anything through. Some may call *that* spammy but I've let them know it's ok since it's an ongoing relationship and they're not pushing anything, just being friendly and informative. Jason -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 15:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Sigh. We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam
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I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) ½ You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N½~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/N~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ http
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E-mail is asynchronous, but it's a quick and effective means of communication. In our environment, we frequently use e-mail for urgent matters. Not outright emergencies--we do use the phone for that--but urgent matters, yes. We're a small group, and e-mail is generally a better way to reach us than phone. We all have cell phones, but we live in a rural area with spotty coverage and often can't get reception inside school buildings. It's actually often easier (quicker) to reach us via e-mail than phone. Plus, people often need to reach me who don't have my cell phone number, so if I'm out of the office e-mail is the better way to reach me. Plus, e-mail provides the advantage of written documentation. -Original Message- From: Jason Gurtz [mailto:jasongu...@npumail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:49 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Just wondering, but wouldn't you call first if the issue was truly urgent instead of emailing? If it's not truly urgent then...? BTW, my more courteous vendors (i.e. those that can expect regular purchases) are kind enough to email or even call me proactively, *before they leave*, letting me know the dates, who I can mail in their absence and would I like to expedite anything through. Some may call *that* spammy but I've let them know it's ok since it's an ongoing relationship and they're not pushing anything, just being friendly and informative. Jason -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 15:24 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Sigh. We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us http://www.taylor.k12.fl.us/ -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk
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But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General’s office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn’t be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I’m up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same treatment. *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's not good customer service to be told that their email is going to be ignored until you get back from vacation. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 08:32, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some
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I've seen the error of my ways. I *am* using e-mail wrong. Have been for years. Thanks for convincing me. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's
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My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) ½ You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays
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That does it! I'm not telling any of you I won't be in the office most of next week! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.commailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.commailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some
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Out of Facility -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title
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Out Of Facilities John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March
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Out of field is where that originates. I prefer OOO, though. Lord, I hope we don't start arguing about whether OOF is better than OOO... -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from
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Can this one die then? Please From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:03 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've seen the error of my ways. I *am* using e-mail wrong. Have been for years. Thanks for convincing me. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Heh. Not unless you're a one-man shop. If there is anyone else in your office, a co-worker should have delegate rights, and monitor your mail. It's
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Come on Don, You have seen this before? http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/12/180899.aspx -troy -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? On Wed, Mar 4, 2009
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Again? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? That does it! I'm not telling any of you I won't be in the office most of next week! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: If you're unsure, then you've probably never worked for a school district. -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:14 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? And from looking at your email domain name, you are probably not in a sales or external customer service position so I'm unsure of the reason EXTERNAL users need to know when your out. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:06 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one
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The old-school reference... -- ME2 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:06 PM, Eric Wittersheim ewittersh...@aasmnet.org wrote: Out of Facility -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't get sent to the list. John Hornbuckle MIS Department Taylor County School District www.taylor.k12.fl.us -Original Message- From: Ben Scott [mailto:mailvor...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:35 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some
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It would be impolite to pass up a free invite to the InfoSEC conference at Disney World! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Again? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? That does it! I'm not telling any of you I won't be in the office most of next week! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy as this may sound-that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.usmailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote
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Everyone has valid point as to why or why you shouldn't send 000's out to the big wide world. I think we should all agree to disagree :) As one of the people who does send 000's to the outside world, it is either to inform people that I'm travelling, eg sat on a plane for 13 hours, working in a different time zone, or just plain out 0f the office, my reasoning, which may be flawed is that people these days expect a instant response, and hopefully the 000 will remind them, they may not get an instant response. Some of the list I subscribe to don't have the problem with 000's perhaps our sponsors can do something about it, in the mean time I have taken the suggested step of adding the stop processing more rules in the hope it solves the problem. That's my 2 pence worth. Thanks Matt -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: 05 March 2009 20:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution
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Sweet! How'd you swing that? -- ME2 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: It would be impolite to pass up a free invite to the InfoSEC conference at Disney World! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Again? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? That does it! I’m not telling any of you I won’t be in the office most of next week! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General’s office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn’t be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I’m up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don’t live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they’re out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I’m assuming—crazy as this may sound—that they might appreciate the same treatment. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:20 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I have worked for a school district, and I still don't know why external users would need to know I'm out. -Jonathan On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:14 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc
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I got people! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Micheal Espinola Jr [mailto:michealespin...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Sweet! How'd you swing that? -- ME2 On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:09 PM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: It would be impolite to pass up a free invite to the InfoSEC conference at Disney World! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Again? From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? That does it! I'm not telling any of you I won't be in the office most of next week! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. - John Hornbuckle The problem is, there are 67 school districts in Florida and any number of people from any of them may contact me. Other state agencies from DOE to the Auditor General's office also contact me, and those are big bureaucracies with lots of employees. It wouldn't be practical to try to add them all to my contacts. -John Hornbuckle Pot, kettle, black. I was not being arrogant, I was saying you're using email wrong. If you think it's arrogant for me to say that, I find your comments to have a similar air about them. You're so important that you can't be bothered to manage OOO's to other people because some other external entity out there might need to contact you. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:50 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I'm up for a good disagreement any time. But arrogance? Not so much. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 3:39 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Ok, then you're not using email correctly. Even though email is nearly instantaneous, urgent communication should take place over the phone. I harp on employees all the time that email is not a substitution for more direct client contact. You should realize that your email might not ever make it to the intended recipient for whatever reason. At least with a telephone call follow-up you know much more, such as if the person is actually available to receive it and if you spoke to them if they received it and maybe even had a chance to read it and had been forumulating a response, but hey they're glad you called so you could discuss it more in depth. I do not OOO, my organization is flat enough that people know when I'm out on vacation or sick, or whatever. The clients I work with call me when something is urgent, and I do the same when I find out something that they need to know. I like to think of an OOO as a notification to the original emailer that I'm doing other business, which is more important than your business right now. Normally, clients don't know if you haven't seen their email right away, an OOO tells them that you won't see the email right away and that there is another client more important. While a client may academically understand that we service other clients, not one of them wants to think of themselves as the small client or the invaluable client, or at least less valuable than any other client. An OOO can and does reinforce the fact that the client is not the center of the universe. Right or wrong, there is something to be said for having a client-centric approach to business. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 3:23 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: Sigh. We don't live in a bubble here. I regularly communicate with the Florida Department of Education, other school districts, and vendors. If I e-mail any of them when they're out, I like to get an OOO so that I know when I can expect a reply, or whom to contact if my issue is urgent. I'm assuming-crazy
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No, I think we should disagree over disagreeing! ;-) -Original Message- From: Davies,Matt [mailto:mdav...@generalatlantic.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:16 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Everyone has valid point as to why or why you shouldn't send 000's out to the big wide world. I think we should all agree to disagree :) As one of the people who does send 000's to the outside world, it is either to inform people that I'm travelling, eg sat on a plane for 13 hours, working in a different time zone, or just plain out 0f the office, my reasoning, which may be flawed is that people these days expect a instant response, and hopefully the 000 will remind them, they may not get an instant response. Some of the list I subscribe to don't have the problem with 000's perhaps our sponsors can do something about it, in the mean time I have taken the suggested step of adding the stop processing more rules in the hope it solves the problem. That's my 2 pence worth. Thanks Matt -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: 05 March 2009 20:53 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE
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D'oh! -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Out Of Facilities John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus, this distribution list could be configured such that those notices don't
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My solution to avoid the list receiving OOF's from me is to simply set my list preferences to nomail for the period which I will be out of the office. Quite easy to do via the forums, and I can set all my lists at the same time . . . Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? D'oh! -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Out Of Facilities John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal
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No I hadn't, thanks. I just knew it was lingering from somewhere just didn't even have the time when curiosity hit - xenix huh? - no wonder they bought Network Courier and called it MSMail. -Original Message- From: Troy Meyer [mailto:troy.me...@monacocoach.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Come on Don, You have seen this before? http://msexchangeteam.com/archive/2004/07/12/180899.aspx -troy -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Second mailbox for yourself, subscribe to lists with that. Or Outlook 2007 and have the out of organization messages sent only to those in your contact list if that works for you..it is in the OOO setup area of Outlook 2007. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? But I don't want to do that; external users need to know when I'm out of the office. -Original Message- From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 10:30 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Exchange 2007 with Outlook 2007 makes it very easy. There are separate Out Of Office settings for internal vs. external. Just don't turn on OOO for external users. TVK -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 5:54 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Guilty! But in all fairness, doesn't Exchange 2007 make it a bit tougher to prevent this than 2003 did? I seem to recall that 2003 had a registry hack for minimizing this, but 2007 doesn't have this. Plus
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I use a separate personal account for mailing lists for several reasons. Most importantly, I don't want to have to change my subscription information to several lists if I change jobs, and also, I do support OOOs to the internet in my environment, so its my way of not pissing anyone else off :-) While I used to get slightly annoyed by the number of OOOs I see on this list, I do understand their usefulness in certain cases. It was incredibly simple for me to filter all OOOs and send them directly to trash using the filter rules in GMail. I'm sure most of everyone's mail client has similar capabilities. It takes a lot less effort to control the mail you receive than to convince others to change their behavior. - Sean On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 1:20 PM, James Winzenz james.winz...@pulte.comwrote: My solution to avoid the list receiving OOF's from me is to simply set my list preferences to nomail for the period which I will be out of the office. Quite easy to do via the forums, and I can set all my lists at the same time . . . Thanks, James Winzenz Infrastructure Systems Engineer II - Security Pulte Homes Information Services -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:10 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? D'oh! -Original Message- From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:05 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Out Of Facilities John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Don Andrews [mailto:don.andr...@safeway.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 4:04 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? My last - how the heck did Out Of Office get abbreviated as OOF? (Out Of Foffice?) -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:53 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I think I'll add a rule sending any further messages on this topic to the bit-bucket... -Original Message- From: Steven Peck [mailto:sep...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 12:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? In outlook, I used to have a rule. When receive message from [whatever list] move to folder and Stop Processing more rules. This seemed to have prevented me from sending out corporate required OOOs. Steven On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 10:47 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Don't think it works on 2007. If it's 2003 here's a nice little add-on that helps http://www.ivasoft.biz/selectiveoof.shtml John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fa (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Steve Moffat [mailto:st...@optimum.bm] On Behalf Of Exchange (Sunbelt) Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:43 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=825370 That works with 2003, nfi if it works with 2007 S -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 2:28 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I don't know who's defining this particular best practice, but I can tell you that the overwhelming majority of companies I do business with do it the way I do it. -Original Message- From: Kurt Buff [mailto:kurt.b...@gmail.com] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 1:07 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: OOF's was RE: Can some one remove me from this list? The blame falls on you, for not following best business practices. On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 09:01, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: I don't want a second mailbox, but OOOs need to go to people who send me messages regardless of whether they're in my contact list. I know this issue has come up before... Where exactly does the fault lie with this issue? Is Exchange doing things wrong? Or is Lyris? Or is this just how SMTP is designed, and there really is no blame? -Original Message- From: Kennedy, Jim [mailto:kennedy...@elyriaschools.org] Sent: Thursday, March 05, 2009 11:45 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: OOF's
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On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 4:20 PM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No, I think we should disagree over disagreeing! No we shouldn't! Wait, I'll come in again... -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Sherry: You just want him to think he's in trouble all the time so it's easier to guilt him into things he really doesn't want to do. And when did Shook get a wife? I thought he was one of those don't ask, don't tell kind of boys. John H. Matteson, Jr. Systems Administrator/ITT Systems Forward Operating Base Orgun-E Afghanistan DSN - 318 431 8001 VoSIP - (308) 431 - Iridium SatPhone - 717.633.3823 Roshain Mobile - 079 - 736 - 3832 So much of what we call management consists in making it difficult for people to work. -- Peter Drucker From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:43 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? I doubt that you need my help to get in trouble, I'm sure you're like my hubby, you stay in trouble ;) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 3:07 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: No but I have a feeling a certain female list member from Texas will post something via Facebook and get me in trouble... Shook From: Steve Hart [mailto:sh...@wrightbg.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:58 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I'm guessing your wife doesn't frequent a list for Exchange admins??? :) Steve Hart I T Manager Wright Business Graphics Inc. wrightbg.com http://www.wrightbg.com/ Wright Imaging Inc. wrightimg.com http://www.wrightimg.com/ P.O. Box 20489 18440 NE San Rafael Portland, OR 97230 503-491-4343 Direct sh...@wrightbg.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I had to cancel a trip last year b\c my wife had to have a baby three weeks before opening dayI couldn't believe how selfish she was being. I mean she can crank out a kid any old time. Turkey season is only for 30 days once a freakin' year. Am I the only one being unreasonable here??? Shook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shook mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues mailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com http://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
JH Date: Wed, 4 Mar 2009 06:17:37 -0500 JH From: John Hornbuckle JH Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to JH expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how JH to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. Then blame the MUA for not doing something useful with the headers. :-) Eddy -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
Re: Can some one remove me from this list?
On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:23 PM, Cameron Cooper ccoo...@aurico.com wrote: There used to be links like that on the bottom of the emails, but people would unsubscribe others from the list and not themselves. What kind of broken list software lets other people unsubscribe you? Oh, right, Lyris. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) -Original Message- From: bounce-8447941-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com [mailto:bounce-8447941-8066...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com] On Behalf Of John Hornbuckle Sent: 04 March 2009 15:08 To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
One might be tempted to think that a person might want to save their subscription confirmation email that contains the unsubscribe instructions... ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Normally I'd agree with that. In this case not so much. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone subscribing to an Exchange admin list would be and Exchange admin, and that if they're an Exchange admin they'd be able to read mail headers. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Agreed. When I first joined the list (2002) I was just another lurker without much knowledge of Exchange (other than the test environment I had set up) and had no idea of some of the ins outs of basic email functionality (still don't!) BUT - I was smart enough to be able to go back where I started and change my account from daily digest to real time. Some people are just looking for the answers to fall on their head, they don't possess the diligence and dedication it takes to become proficient. Plus you have to be a little off to be on this list! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Normally I'd agree with that. In this case not so much. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone subscribing to an Exchange admin list would be and Exchange admin, and that if they're an Exchange admin they'd be able to read mail headers. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use
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Not to mention the fact that the Sunbelt lists are double opt-in. Not only do you have to go to the web-site to subscribe, but you then have to respond from your email address that you want to subscribe. On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 9:48 AM, John Cook john.c...@pfsf.org wrote: Agreed. When I first joined the list (2002) I was just another lurker without much knowledge of Exchange (other than the test environment I had set up) and had no idea of some of the ins outs of basic email functionality (still don't!) BUT - I was smart enough to be able to go back where I started and change my account from daily digest to real time. Some people are just looking for the answers to fall on their head, they don't possess the diligence and dedication it takes to become proficient. Plus you have to be a little off to be on this list! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ -Original Message- From: Campbell, Rob [mailto:rob_campb...@centraltechnology.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 10:32 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Normally I'd agree with that. In this case not so much. I don't think it's unreasonable to expect that someone subscribing to an Exchange admin list would be and Exchange admin, and that if they're an Exchange admin they'd be able to read mail headers. -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.neteddy%2bpublic%2bs...@noc.everquick.net ] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto: leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ** Note: The information contained in this message may be privileged and confidential and protected from disclosure. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient, or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. ** ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review
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I'd love to agree with that, but being a president of anything doesn't neccessarily mean they are well-versed in the details that organization's MO. At least thats been true for most of the organizations I have worked with. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja ~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Well, all I can say is that Mr. Arod, from Borger, TX isn't exactly living in a burgeoning metropolis of technological activity, primary business in that area is going to be agriculture. Less than 15000 population and in one of the two worst locations (IMNSHO) in Texas. The only reason to drive through Borger, and I have going to New Mexico and/or Colorado, is to get to another location ;) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to agree with that, but being a president of anything doesn't neccessarily mean they are well-versed in the details that organization's MO. At least thats been true for most of the organizations I have worked with. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.neteddy%2bpublic%2bs...@noc.everquick.net ] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Hell, most CIOs/CTOs aren't technologically savvy. :^) Don Guyer Systems Engineer - Information Services Prudential, Fox Roach/Trident Group 431 W. Lancaster Avenue Devon, PA 19333 Direct: (610) 993-3299 Fax: (610) 650-5306 don.gu...@prufoxroach.com From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 1:02 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Well, all I can say is that Mr. Arod, from Borger, TX isn't exactly living in a burgeoning metropolis of technological activity, primary business in that area is going to be agriculture. Less than 15000 population and in one of the two worst locations (IMNSHO) in Texas. The only reason to drive through Borger, and I have going to New Mexico and/or Colorado, is to get to another location ;) On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 11:46 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love to agree with that, but being a president of anything doesn't neccessarily mean they are well-versed in the details that organization's MO. At least thats been true for most of the organizations I have worked with. -- ME2 On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:07 AM, John Hornbuckle john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us wrote: No argument--especially since the subscriber was the president of a technology company. -Original Message- From: Kim Longenbaugh [mailto:k...@colonialsavings.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 9:48 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Agreed there, but I'd think it was reasonable that some who subscribed to the list would maybe think about going back to where they subscribed and unsubscribe... -Original Message- From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Wednesday, March 04, 2009 5:18 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Yeah, I know the instructions are there--but it's not reasonable to expect subscribers to dig through message headers to figure out how to leave the list. That's not a particularly intuitive design. -Original Message- From: Edward B. DREGER [mailto:eddy+public+s...@noc.everquick.net mailto:eddy%2bpublic%2bs...@noc.everquick.net ] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 10:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH From: John Hornbuckle JH To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues JH Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 14:16:43 -0500 JH Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Topic: Can some one remove me from this list? JH Thread-Index: AcmcHsOu8HdhJeplRmK/3oVuYwI2GgAD08wg [ much header snippage ] JH List-Unsubscribe: mailto:leave-long_nonce_thingy_remo...@lyris.sunbelt-software.com JH Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal JH instructions at the bottom. Or the headers. See above. While we're on an ideally note: WHY has Outlook not figured out proper mail threading yet?! Eddy (still using PINE waaay too much after all these years) -- Everquick Internet - http://www.everquick.net/ A division of Brotsman Dreger, Inc. - http://www.brotsman.com/ Bandwidth, consulting, e-commerce, hosting, and network building Phone: +1 785 865 5885 Lawrence and [inter]national Phone: +1 316 794 8922 Wichita LinkedIn: http://www.linkedin.com/in/0xebd DO NOT send mail to the following addresses: dav...@brics.com -*- jfconmaa...@intc.net -*- s...@everquick.net Sending mail to spambait addresses is a great way to get blocked. Ditto for broken OOO autoresponders and foolish AV software backscatter. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Sobey, Richard A r.so...@imperial.ac.uk wrote: And looking at the title of this list, you'd probably need a modicum of knowledge about email + mailing lists before subscribing :) You'd think so, but then you'd look at the flurry of out-of-office notices one gets when posting around the holidays. -- Ben ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Let me think about it... -- ME2 On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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No,let me take care of it...;-) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Let me think about it... -- ME2 - Show quoted text - On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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I just hit my easy button, mentally speaking he's been disposed of! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Steve Ens [mailto:stevey...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:41 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? No,let me take care of it...;-) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Micheal Espinola Jr michealespin...@gmail.commailto:michealespin...@gmail.com wrote: Let me think about it... -- ME2 - Show quoted text - On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.ontimebdr.com Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~ CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Make sure to hit it hard enough, sometimes they stick. ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.comwrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [image: logo82751_sm] [image: small_business_specialist_web][image: Cert_Partner_rgb_2] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. -- This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. *ExchangeDefender* Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpgimage002.gifimage003.gif
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I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99BFC.9DB1D130] [cid:image002.gif@01C99BFC.9DB1D130] [cid:image003.gif@01C99BFC.9DB1D130] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C08.6F177710] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C08.6F177710] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C08.6F177710] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:01 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com http://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity http://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=arod@ ontimecomputing.com This email and any attached files are confidential and intended solely for the intended recipient(s). If you are not the named recipient you should not read, distribute, copy or alter this email. Any views or opinions expressed in this email are those of the author and do not represent those of the Girl Scouts of Southwest Texas company. Warning: Although precautions have been taken to make sure no viruses are present in this email, the company cannot accept responsibility for any loss or damage that arise from the use of this email or attachments. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image004.jpgimage005.jpgimage006.gifimage007.gif
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How about a blast from the past from Clubber Lang? I liked it so much, I saved it in my archive... And I quote: First, ask your Internet Provider to mail you an Unsubscribing Kit. Then follow these directions. The kit will most likely be the standard no-fault type. Depending on requirements, System A and/or System B can be used. When operating System A, depress lever and a plastic dalkron unsubscriber will be dispensed through the slot immediately underneath. When you have fastened the adhesive lip, attach connection marked by the large X outlet hose. Twist the silver-colored ring one inch below the connection point until you feel it lock. The kit is now ready for use. The List-Eliminator is activated by the small switch on the lip. When securing, twist the ring back to its initial condition, so that the two orange lines meet. Disconnect. Place the dalkron unsubscriber in the vacuum receptacle to the rear. Activate by pressing the blue button. The controls for System B are located on the opposite side. The red release switch places the List-Eliminator into position; it can be adjusted manually up or down by pressing the blue manual release button. The opening is self- adjusting. To secure after use, press the green button, which simultaneously activates the evaporator and returns the List-Eliminator to its storage position. You may log off if the green exit light is on over the evaporator . If the red light is illuminated, one of the List-Eliminator requirements has not been properly implemented. Press the List Guy call button on the right of the evaporator . He will secure all facilities from his control panel. To use the Auto-Unsub, first undress and place all your clothes in the clothes rack. Put on the velcro slippers located in the cabinet immediately below. Enter the shower, taking the entire kit with you. On the control panel to your upper right upon entering you will see a Shower seal button. Press to activate. A green light will then be illuminated immediately below. On the intensity knob, select the desired setting. Now depress the Auto-Unsub activation lever. Bathe normally. The Auto-Unsub will automatically go off after three minutes unless you activate the Manual off override switch by flipping it up. When you are ready to leave, press the blue Shower seal release button. The door will open and you may leave. Please remove the Velcro slippers and place them in their container. If you prefer the ultrasonic log-off mode, press the indicated blue button. When the twin panels open, pull forward by rings A B. The knob to the left, just below the blue light, has three settings, low, medium or high. For normal use, the medium setting is suggested. After these settings have been made, you can activate the device by switching to the ON position the clearly marked red switch. If during the unsubscribing operation, you wish to change the settings, place the manual off override switch in the OFF position. You may now make the change and repeat the cycle. When the green exit light goes on, you may log off and have lunch. Please close the door behind you. From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com http://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ logo82751_sm small_business_specialist_webCert_Partner_rgb_2 Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us
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Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shook To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. -- This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image/jpegimage/gifimage/gif
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Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal instructions at the bottom. From: Alex Rodriguez [mailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can some one remove me from this list? Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C04.69EAFD60] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C04.69EAFD60] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C04.69EAFD60] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - *From:* Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM *Subject:* RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I’ve never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [image: logo82751_sm] [image: small_business_specialist_web][image: Cert_Partner_rgb_2] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. -- This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. *ExchangeDefender* Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image/gifimage/gifimage/jpeg
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There used to be links like that on the bottom of the emails, but people would unsubscribe others from the list and not themselves. ---___ Cameron Cooper IT Director - CompTIA A+ Certified Aurico Reports, Inc Phone: 847-890-4021Fax: 847-255-1896 ccoo...@aurico.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~
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Anyone that refers to themselves as ARod isn't going to catch a break from me, especially if they're the President of the company - I suppose it was too much to go by AlexR, that name was probably already taken at his company ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal instructions at the bottom. From: Alex Rodriguez [mailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can some one remove me from this list? Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C0C.09148490] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C0C.09148490] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C0C.09148490] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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I was going to suggest that the president of a technology solutions company should be able to figure the process out, but I didn't want to sound rude... From: John Cook [mailto:john.c...@pfsf.org] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:26 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Anyone that refers to themselves as ARod isn't going to catch a break from me, especially if they're the President of the company - I suppose it was too much to go by AlexR, that name was probably already taken at his company ;-) John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: John Hornbuckle [mailto:john.hornbuc...@taylor.k12.fl.us] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:17 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Ideally, every message the list sends out should include removal instructions at the bottom. From: Alex Rodriguez [mailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can some one remove me from this list? Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C0C.58D11D90] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C0C.58D11D90] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C0C.58D11D90] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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Results:The following members were successfully deleted: a...@ontimecomputing.com Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: Alex Rodriguez [mailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can some one remove me from this list? Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com http://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticity http://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=arod@ ontimecomputing.com .. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image001.jpgimage002.gifimage003.gif
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And Stu hits one out of the park WITHOUT steroids! Thx! John W. Cook Systems Administrator Partnership For Strong Families 315 SE 2nd Ave Gainesville, Fl 32601 Office (352) 393-2741 x320 Cell (352) 215-6944 Fax (352) 393-2746 MCSE, MCTS, MCP+I,CompTIA A+, N+ From: Stu Sjouwerman [mailto:s...@sunbelt-software.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 3:24 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? Results: The following members were successfully deleted: a...@ontimecomputing.com Warm regards, Stu Sjouwerman Founder, VP Marketing. P: +1-727-562-0101 ext 218 F: +1-727-562-5199 s...@sunbelt-software.com From: Alex Rodriguez [mailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:41 AM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Can some one remove me from this list? Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C15.8FD8B4C0] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C15.8FD8B4C0] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C15.8FD8B4C0] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com . CONFIDENTIALITY STATEMENT: The information transmitted, or contained or attached to or with this Notice is intended only for the person or entity to which it is addressed and may contain Protected Health Information (PHI), confidential and/or privileged material. Any review, transmission, dissemination, or other use of, and taking any action in reliance upon this information by persons or entities other than the intended recipient without the express written consent of the sender are prohibited. This information may be protected by the Health Insurance Portability and Accountability Act of 1996 (HIPAA), and other Federal and Florida laws. Improper or unauthorized use or disclosure of this information could result in civil and/or criminal penalties. Consider the environment. Please don't print this e-mail unless you really need to. ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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That's just not even funny; there are some things you don't even joke about, James! Especially seeing how I'm hunting in 23 days for a week straight all over South Carolina!! If I am so blessed I will post pics of the harvests. Shook From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shookmailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C18.08E93860] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C18.08E93860] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C18.08E93860] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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I had to cancel a trip last year b\c my wife had to have a baby three weeks before opening dayI couldn't believe how selfish she was being. I mean she can crank out a kid any old time. Turkey season is only for 30 days once a freakin' year. Am I the only one being unreasonable here??? Shook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shookmailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C18.6154B7E0] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C18.6154B7E0] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C18.6154B7E0] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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As old as Shook is, he's really more of a sprung turkey. ;-) From: James Kerr [mailto:cluster...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:15 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shookmailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C10.328756F0] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C10.328756F0] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C10.328756F0] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
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Hmmm, let's see, *you're* the one that got her in that condition, so maybe *you *should have timed it a little better ;);) On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 2:54 PM, Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com wrote: I had to cancel a trip last year b\c my wife had to have a baby three weeks before opening day….I couldn’t believe how selfish she was being. I mean she can crank out a kid any old time. Turkey season is only for 30 days once a freakin’ year. Am I the only one being unreasonable here??? Shook *From:* Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:18 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - *From:* Andy Shook andy.sh...@peak10.com *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM *Subject:* RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I’ve never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook *From:* Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! *From:* Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM *To:* MS-Exchange Admin Issues *Subject:* Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.com www.ontimebdr.com http://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [image: logo82751_sm] [image: small_business_specialist_web][image: Cert_Partner_rgb_2] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. -- This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. *ExchangeDefender* Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~image003.gifimage002.gifimage001.jpg
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I'm guessing your wife doesn't frequent a list for Exchange admins??? :) Steve Hart I T Manager Wright Business Graphics Inc. wrightbg.comhttp://www.wrightbg.com/ Wright Imaging Inc. wrightimg.comhttp://www.wrightimg.com/ P.O. Box 20489 18440 NE San Rafael Portland, OR 97230 503-491-4343 Direct sh...@wrightbg.com From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I had to cancel a trip last year b\c my wife had to have a baby three weeks before opening dayI couldn't believe how selfish she was being. I mean she can crank out a kid any old time. Turkey season is only for 30 days once a freakin' year. Am I the only one being unreasonable here??? Shook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shookmailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:671135920@03032009-202A] [cid:671135920@03032009-2031] [cid:671135920@03032009-2038] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
RE: Can some one remove me from this list?
Sounds EXTREMELY inconsiderate on her part, but from now on you really should be more careful with the timing of your annual nookie visit with her though. From: Andy Shook [mailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:55 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I had to cancel a trip last year b\c my wife had to have a baby three weeks before opening dayI couldn't believe how selfish she was being. I mean she can crank out a kid any old time. Turkey season is only for 30 days once a freakin' year. Am I the only one being unreasonable here??? Shook From: Sherry Abercrombie [mailto:saber...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:18 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? That will make Shook curl up in the fetal position and whimper like a little baby. On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 1:14 PM, James Kerr cluster...@gmail.commailto:cluster...@gmail.com wrote: Spring turkey season is cancelled! - Original Message - From: Andy Shookmailto:andy.sh...@peak10.com To: MS-Exchange Admin Issuesmailto:exchangelist@lyris.sunbelt-software.com Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 2:00 PM Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I've never gotten an email that made me cry until now. Shook From: Tim Vander Kooi [mailto:tvanderk...@expl.commailto:tvanderk...@expl.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 1:36 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: RE: Can some one remove me from this list? I can!!! From: Jonathan Link [mailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.commailto:jonathan.l...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 12:32 PM To: MS-Exchange Admin Issues Subject: Re: Can some one remove me from this list? It is the nature of the list that once you join you cannot leave. Well, you can't leave without great sacrafice. You'll miss out on Shook's banter, and who can live without that? On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Alex Rodriguez a...@ontimecomputing.commailto:a...@ontimecomputing.com wrote: Alex Rodriguez, President On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. PO BOX 3285* 1206 S. Cedar St. Borger, TX 79007 * Office 806-274-9912* Fax 806-274-9596 www.ontimecomputing.comhttp://www.ontimecomputing.com/ www.ontimebdr.comhttp://www.borgerhasslefreeit.com/ [cid:image001.jpg@01C99C11.944C8670] [cid:image002.gif@01C99C11.944C8670] [cid:image003.gif@01C99C11.944C8670] Why is a trusted IT Partner better than Just a Guy? - Read More at http://www.wevegottaguy.com/ On Time Technology Solutions, Inc. will be your trusted IT Partner, we pride ourselves in providing the Texas Panhandle market with proven and best of breed technology solutions. This message (and any associated files) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed and may contain information that is confidential, subject to copyright or constitutes a trade secret. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, copying or distribution of this message, or files associated with this message, is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, please notify us immediately by replying to the message and deleting it from your computer. Messages sent to and from us may be monitored. Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be secure or error-free as information could be intercepted, corrupted, lost, destroyed, arrive late or incomplete, or contain viruses. Therefore, we do not accept responsibility for any errors or omissions that are present in this message, or any attachment, that have arisen as a result of e-mail transmission. If verification is required, please request a hard-copy version. Any views or opinions presented are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of the company. ExchangeDefender Message Security: Check Authenticityhttp://www.exchangedefender.com/verify.asp?id=n23GeUPK007432from=a...@ontimecomputing.com -- Sherry Abercrombie Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic. Arthur C. Clarke ~ Ninja Email Security with Cloudmark Spam Engine Gets Image Spam ~ ~ http://www.sunbeltsoftware.com/Ninja~inline: image001.jpginline: image002.gifinline: image003.gif
