Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System

2000-10-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach Arcana am Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:29PM -0400:
 as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed.  The Athlon can't match 
 Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and 
 graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache 

Hmm?  Do you know that first hand, or did you just read it somewhere? 
Because I read in a mag, that especially in floating point math the Athlon
beats a Pentium III.  And this was so astonishing, because FP were always
AMDs week side.

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[expert] realplayer woes

2000-10-19 Thread Kelly Edwards


To ALL:

Recently i have found that my realplayer is giving me segmentation
faults when I try to use it.  When the player opens up it is
fine...then say I click the Take5 button it closes about 5
seconds later and gives me a segmentation fault.  Also if I go to a
web site and attempt to play a .ram file, it will only play for about
24 seconds, then close.  It is the same with any .ram file that I
attempt to play.   Anybody have any suggestions???


Maxtor



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[expert] RPC error

2000-10-19 Thread faisal

can anyone take a look @ my dmesg  tell me whats wrong with my NFS ?

 telerror

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[expert] Telnet problem

2000-10-19 Thread faisal

It says "Socket operation on non-socket " when i try to run telnet deamon
manually

thanks
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Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System

2000-10-19 Thread Buchan Milne



Arcana wrote:

 As for the performance: the Duron outperforms the Celeron, so as a Celeron
 replacement, it absolutely boots Intel.  However, don't expect it to perform
 as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed.  The Athlon can't match
 Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and
 graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache
 (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement.  However, the
 cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed,
 so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :)
 

See Tom's Hardware guide for an article that shows this is a very
antiquated myth (the fact that AMD chips lack FPU power).

3D Studio Max Benchmark
http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-13.html
(Duron 800@900 beats Petium 3 1000 by 25%)

Quote from Tom's Hardware:
http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-03.html
Athlon outperforms Pentium III in scientific and floating-point
intensive applications. - FACT 

This fact is well known, but it gets easily forgotten. Athlon's FPU is
way superior to the FPU of Pentium III. It is expected that even Pentium
4's FPU can't compete against Athlon's. Thus every software that
requires double-precision floating-point calculations will run 40-50%
faster on Athlon than on Pentium III. This difference can't even be
equalized with clock speed. 

Since the Duron is more similar to the Athlon than the Celeron is to the
P3, the Duron still does better than the P3 at most FPU-intensive
applications (like the 3DSMax).

Buchan

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[expert] kde2

2000-10-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

I finally have a workable KDE2. I followed someones link posted on here, downloaded 
all the tar balls and installed.
Takes forever (it seems) it compile, but in the end, KDE2 works like a champ. After 
about 4 different downloads of 
Mandrake RPM's and all failing attempts. I do have one problem though. Some of the 
.tar files error on /lib/lddlso.1 
(something like it at least) but the tar files just say can't find -- skipping. And 
work.
I only have one real issue (if you can even call it an issue), how is it that root has 
sound, but not a user? My radio card 
will work as user, but not KDE sound schemes. And Xmms will not work in KDE2. Thats 
it. 3 weeks of H*ll for the 
rpm's, one evening with the result of satisfaction with tar files.

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Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System

2000-10-19 Thread Roland Hightower

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, you wrote:
 
 So sprach Arcana am Wed, Oct 18, 2000 at 09:50:29PM -0400:
  as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed.  The Athlon can't match 
  Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and 
  graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache 
 
 Hmm?  Do you know that first hand, or did you just read it somewhere? 
 Because I read in a mag, that especially in floating point math the Athlon
 beats a Pentium III.  And this was so astonishing, because FP were always
 AMDs week side.
 
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   Same here, everything I remember reading about the Athlon the first few months it 
hit, said it outperformed
the PIII in every aspect.  My system runs a K63-400 and I love it as much as I do my 
operating system!!
Hope to upgrade to an Athlon one day soon.

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[expert] Where i can find Kde 2

2000-10-19 Thread Maximo Monsalvo


Where i can download Kde 2 , is nesesary install Xfree4.0




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Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System

2000-10-19 Thread Buchan Milne

Sorry, I should have shown more explicity where the quote starts and
ends  See below.

Buchan Milne wrote:
 
 Arcana wrote:
 
  As for the performance: the Duron outperforms the Celeron, so as a Celeron
  replacement, it absolutely boots Intel.  However, don't expect it to perform
  as well as the Pentium III at a similar clock speed.  The Athlon can't match
  Intel's PIII in some instances (usually dealing with floating-point and
  graphics) so the Duron, basically being the Athlon with a lot less L2 cache
  (64K as opposed to Athlon's 256K) won't be a PIII replacement.  However, the
  cost of the Duron is probably a quarter of the PIII at an equivalent speed,
  so you could buy 4 Durons for 1 PIII :)
 
 
 See Tom's Hardware guide for an article that shows this is a very
 antiquated myth (the fact that AMD chips lack FPU power).
 
 3D Studio Max Benchmark
 http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-13.html
 (Duron 800@900 beats Petium 3 1000 by 25%)
 
 Quote from Tom's Hardware:
 http://www2.tomshardware.com/cpu/00q4/001017/athlon-03.html
==start of quote=
 "Athlon outperforms Pentium III in scientific and floating-point
 intensive applications. - FACT
 
 This fact is well known, but it gets easily forgotten. Athlon's FPU is
 way superior to the FPU of Pentium III. It is expected that even Pentium
 4's FPU can't compete against Athlon's. Thus every software that
 requires double-precision floating-point calculations will run 40-50%
 faster on Athlon than on Pentium III. This difference can't even be
 equalized with clock speed."
=end of quote 

 Since the Duron is more similar to the Athlon than the Celeron is to the
 P3, the Duron still does better than the P3 at most FPU-intensive
 applications (like the 3DSMax).
 
 Buchan
 
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Re: [expert] ssh

2000-10-19 Thread Michael

If you want a basic howto guide (scp's manual can be confussing) let me
know.

*^*^*^*
Have the courage to take your own thoughts seriously, for they will shape
you. -- Albert Einstein

On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Stephen Carville wrote:

 On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 
 - Thank you.  That was the trick.  I am now able to connect via ssh to 
 - my system.
 - 
 - Next question:  How does one go about doing file transfers/ftp over
 - ssh?
 - 
 - praedor
 - 
 
 Use secure copy. 
 
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RE: [expert] Where i can find Kde 2

2000-10-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

www.kde.org has kde2 for mandrake and others. 

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[expert] startup in what looks like single mode

2000-10-19 Thread Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS

When I restart my PC, linux (Mandrake 7.1) comes up like it is in single mode.
I get some kind of error stating that it is trying to mount loopback, and cant cause 
it is already mounted
the I get the "you have been dropped to a shell, enter root password or CTRL-D for 
normal startup"
CTRL-D just puts me into a reboot with the same stopper, same point.
Entering root's pw then issuing init 5, brings the machine right up, and functions 
great.
I have noticed upon reboot there is something stating that fsck will be forced upon 
next reboot
What do I need to do to get the reboot back to normal??
Is there a shutdown script that needs modified or what ??

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Re: [expert] ssh

2000-10-19 Thread Praedor Tempus

Thank you,

I would appreciate a basic howto for this.

praedor

Michael wrote:
 
 If you want a basic howto guide (scp's manual can be confussing) let me
 know.
[...]
 On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Stephen Carville wrote:
 
  On Wed, 18 Oct 2000, Praedor Tempus wrote:
 
  - Thank you.  That was the trick.  I am now able to connect via ssh to
  - my system.
  -
  - Next question:  How does one go about doing file transfers/ftp over
  - ssh?
  -
  - praedor
  -
 
  Use secure copy.
 
  'man scp'
 



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[expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread Turgut Kalfaoglu

Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.

Let's also assume that when you type:
  [root@db2 mail]# rm *
you get:
  bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long

any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)

Thank you!
  -turgut

PS: 5 million files is an estimate.

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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread Jim Holthaus

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On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
 
 Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
 and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
 that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.
 
 Let's also assume that when you type:
   [root@db2 mail]# rm *
 you get:
   bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
 
 any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)

Use find to delete the files one at a time. This will take a while, but it'll
get the job done. Here is a sample find command that might do the trick for
/var/log/mail:

find /var/log/mail -ctime +3 -exec rm {} \;
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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread J.A. Magallon

Turgut Kalfaoglu said at Ò[expert] logrotateÓ.
[2000-10-19 17:06]

 Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
 and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
 that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.

 Let's also assume that when you type:
   [root@db2 mail]# rm *
 you get:
   bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long

 any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)

Try with 'xargs' (man xargs), it is just for that.
Also you could try also inside /var/log/ with find:
find . -exec rm -f {} \;
This second solution can be MUCH slower...




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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread Ron Johnson, Jr.

Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
 
 Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
 and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
 that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.
 
 Let's also assume that when you type:
   [root@db2 mail]# rm *
 you get:
   bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
 
 any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)
 
 Thank you!
   -turgut
 
 PS: 5 million files is an estimate.
 
 -

Divide and conquer:
rm [Aa]*
rm [Bb]*
rm [Cc]*
etc., etc.

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Re: [expert] ssh

2000-10-19 Thread Dany Allard

Take a look at sftp, works great for me.

   There is some info on this page

http://www.mcknight.de/jftpgw/howtouse-sftp.html

Hope that helps

  Dany Allard

Praedor Tempus wrote:

 Thank you.  That was the trick.  I am now able to connect via ssh to
 my system.

 Next question:  How does one go about doing file transfers/ftp over
 ssh?

 praedor

 Asheesh Laroia wrote:
 
  I had the same problem when I upgraded my OpenSSH on my 7.0 server.
 
  Get the new pam-*.i586.rpm files from your local cooker, and install them.
 
  That fixed it for me.

   
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[expert] How to compile a kernel with the same options of the default one?

2000-10-19 Thread Eduardo M. A. M. Mendes

Hello
I want to test kernel 2.4.0 but, at the same, I want to compile with
the same options of
a standard mandrake 7.0 kernel.   Is it possible?  If so, how?

Many thanks

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[expert]

2000-10-19 Thread Shawn Hafen

ok so i just installed mandrake 7.2 and it rocks! im running a toshiba satellite 
4100xdvd w/ 4meg trident cyber video card, etc..

i have never had this problem before but ever since moving to 7.2 i have a one 
centimeter gap at the bottom of the screen like the picture was adjusted to move up a 
little. there is no way to adjust the picture position with the laptop, is there a way 
to do it with linux? is this a configuration error or just an incompatibilty with 
Xfree864.x ?

anyone?

TIA

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Re: [expert] startup in what looks like single mode

2000-10-19 Thread Buchan Milne

Read the line above "you have been dropped to a shell, enter root
password or CTRL-D for normal startup" and it will probably tell you you
need to run fsck on a partition (most likely root). So run fsck (fsck
can only be run on unmounted partitions, which is why you got this
message) after entering your root password. When you are done, CTRL-D.

Buchan

Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote:
 
 When I restart my PC, linux (Mandrake 7.1) comes up like it is in single mode.
 I get some kind of error stating that it is trying to mount loopback, and cant cause 
it is already mounted
 the I get the "you have been dropped to a shell, enter root password or CTRL-D for 
normal startup"
 CTRL-D just puts me into a reboot with the same stopper, same point.
 Entering root's pw then issuing init 5, brings the machine right up, and functions 
great.
 I have noticed upon reboot there is something stating that fsck will be forced upon 
next reboot
 What do I need to do to get the reboot back to normal??
 Is there a shutdown script that needs modified or what ??
 
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[expert] 7.1 on 486

2000-10-19 Thread George McConnell

will 7.1 not install on a 486?

i'm trying to load a stripped down eMail station (no X) and booting up off
floppy, i get

No coprocessor found and no math emulation present.
Giving up.

i tried booting up in expert mode, but same result.

any way around this? would an older, or diff distro work?




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Re: [expert] 7.1 on 486

2000-10-19 Thread Jim Holthaus

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you want a current linux distro that runs on a 486.
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[expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Deno

LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)
(http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=20001019091828)

Two days ago I asked your opinions about linux: where we are, what is good, what is 
bad, where should we go etc.
Well, I got what I asked for: 71 answer so far.

I'll try to summarize what You said so far, as a base for further discussion:
  


 First there were people who are basically asking to do 
exactly what we did so far:

 Keep all the packages up-to-date
 Add cool new programs to distro
 get rid of junk progs (WE NEED YOUR HELP HERE!)
 Offer our judgement on which programs should be installed, but let the user have the 
last word. 
 Make instalation and usage easier
 Support more hardware
 Fix the bugs, close security holes
 Improve documentation
 Make servers easier to use too, not only 
Desktop machines (we just started doing this)

 Then there were people asking better support 
for particular class of devices or better integration
of particular programs: 

Faxing
USB, DVD, scanners, digital cameras
other PDA-s (Psion)
nettalk support
wine configuration. 

 There was some (rather light) cryticism of several points:

 bad ISDN support (this should be fixed in 7.2)
 neglecting the FAX software
 not uniform enough
 Too many programs doing the same thing
 Config programs do not tell you what they do.
 package selection during install is too much work to do.

 Some people wanted us to do impossible things like offering some commercial programs 
for free, solving DVD support problem (folks, this is political, not technical 
problem. We can not do much here, it is something you should do!), or basing the 
distro on closed-source code
 Others were asking for already existing features, or for features we just introduced 
in 7.2. I'll make sure to inform you better in the future... 
 And finaly, there were few people who offered completely new ideas on what to do:

Sell merchantising 
Pay someone to make some good UNICODE fonts
Publish upgrade-packs instead of new distros.

I hope I didn't forget anything important. If I did, please tell me and I will update 
this page. I intend to use it as a reference in further discussion. 





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[expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Mike Rambo

Yesterday we got called out for problems at one of the elementary
schools and was surprised to find that the server was the source of at
least part of the problems.  The complaint was that server resources
couldn't be accessed - and turned out to be true.

The server is a file  printer server for win3x and win9x clients using
Samba.  It also handles dhcp services for the network with ISC's dhcp
server.  OS is Mandrake 7.1.

I checked /var/log/messages and found the syslog was restarting itself
every 15 seconds or so and had been for the last three days.  Couldn't
figure out why.  There wasn't anything else in the logs that stuck me as
significant to the current trouble.

We started working with the complaint that the classes were unable to
access resources and ended up rebooting the server (restarting various
services - network, smb - didn't help).  This seemed to correct access
at first but then we started getting dhcp address expirations on all the
clients.  I found that the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address because it was
already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the same IP address as
the server but the only way I found to resolve that problem was to put
the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one I've never
seen before.

Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that the access
problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few computers in the school
can access one of the important programs.

Though I haven't been to the server console yet today, I have telnet'd
in but didn't really find much.  All the important services appear to be
up and there aren't any unusual messages in the logs.  Syslog is not
restarting like it was when we were there yesterday.

I'm wondering about record locking problems or something.  The main app
they're having trouble with is Accelerated Reader.  It was previously on
a Novell server that we have replaced with this mandrake server.  We
saved the files from the old server and ftp'd them to the new server. 
The novell server had no problems sharing this data but the error
appears that it may be one of access to either the data or temp
directories both of which have to be write enabled for updates.  At
least two computers are using this program with no trouble giving the
students tests and updating records but most everybody else is locked
out.  The error (as I recall) is something to the effect of "error
opening files" which of course doesn't give much to go on.

Any idea what's happening here or where I can look for clues?


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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread gene

At 6:06 PM +0300 10/19/00, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.

Let's also assume that when you type:
   [root@db2 mail]# rm *
you get:
   bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long

any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)

This should work.  The syntax is for tcsh, but it should be similar in bash:

# tcsh
# foreach foo (*)
# /bin/rm $foo
# end
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Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Jim Holthaus

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 the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
 with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address because it was
 already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the same IP address as
 the server but the only way I found to resolve that problem was to put
 the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one I've never
 seen before.

There was probably another computer on the subnet with the same IP address. 

 Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that the access
 problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few computers in the school
 can access one of the important programs.

Start by looking at what's changed since the system last worked. Did you
accidentally break something while trying to fix things yesterday? Do all
of the clients know the new address of the server? After that, start working on
network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying communications between the
server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, look at software
specific problems like record locking. 
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Re: [expert] Sprint Broadband internet

2000-10-19 Thread Stephen Bosch



"Ron Johnson, Jr." wrote:
 
 What Mandrake version do u use?  Mdk6.0 uses "pump" for dynamicly
 assigned addresses.  v6.1 also may use pump.  Newer versions
 use dhcp.

Pump handles dhcp *and* bootp -- if you aren't using pump you need
dhcpcd. Dhcpd is the server daemon -- you need the client.

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Re: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread Vincent Danen

On Thu Oct 19, 2000 at 06:06:12PM +0300, Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:

 Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
 and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
 that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and /news directories.
 
 Let's also assume that when you type:
   [root@db2 mail]# rm *
 you get:
   bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
 
 any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)

Wouldn't:

rm -rf /var/log/mail; mkdir /var/log/mail

work?

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Re: [expert] 7.1 on 486

2000-10-19 Thread Jean-Philippe Gois

George McConnell wrote:
 
 will 7.1 not install on a 486?
 

It will, but you have to download a dedicated iso file.
You'll find one at www.linuxiso.org/download and at most ftp mandrake
mirrors.

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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Austin L. Denyer

 Publish upgrade-packs instead of new distros.

This is probably one of the most important.  What I (and I would think a lot
of other users) need is an easier upgrade path.  That is, one that doesn't
require blowing away the previous installation and config files.  Let's face
it, even Micro$oft managed that (they just blow away every other operating
system on one's machine in the process!)

#;-D

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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Charles Curley

On Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 09:18:29AM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)
 (http://forum.mandrakesoft.com/article.php3?sid=20001019091828)
 
 Two days ago I asked your opinions about linux: where we are, what is good, what is 
bad, where should we go etc.
 Well, I got what I asked for: 71 answer so far.
 
 I'll try to summarize what You said so far, as a base for further discussion:
   
 
 

  Config programs do not tell you what they do.
  package selection during install is too much work to do.

Let me add something here. Currently I believe Mandrake offers a server
install and a desktop install (I haven't tried a 7.x installation, so I
don't know). Fine as far as they go, but how about adding, possibly as a
subset of the server install, a router/firewall install? This would add
the appropriate software, e.g. IP chains tools, at install time. It would
also tweak most config files, e.g. /etc/smb.config so that the computer's
services were a) only visible on the lan(s) inside the firewall, b)
visible to the Internet as well, depending on the user's choice at install
time. This last requirment means a fair amount of sed/awk or perl work, so
I don't know how feasible it is.

In short, the router installation is up and running as a router, and
secure, from the installation.


 Some people wanted us to do impossible things like offering some
 commercial programs for free, solving DVD support problem (folks, this
 is political, not technical problem. We can not do much here, it is
 something you should do!), or basing the distro on closed-source code

Some people apparently don't know what we're doing here. :-)


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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Larry Marshall

 This is probably one of the most important.  What I (and I would think a lot
 of other users) need is an easier upgrade path.  That is, one that doesn't
 require blowing away the previous installation and config files.  Let's face
 it, even Micro$oft managed that (they just blow away every other operating
 system on one's machine in the process!)

Uhm...that already exists doesn't it?  I've upgraded from 7.0-7.1 without
losing any of my setup.  I've also done the upgrade from
7.1-7.2beta on one of my non-work computers.  Where's the problem?

Microsoft has managed to have an "upgrade" because they want to make you
pay more money for an upgrade.  What they provide is a new installation
that looks to see if you have an old one (and thus can pay the lower
price of the upgrade).  But when you go from W'95-W'98 you overwrite the
registry completely and they rearrange the directory structure
sufficiently that you end up having to reinstall most third
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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Jeff Malka

Absolutely!

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- Original Message -
From: Austin L. Denyer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 This is probably one of the most important.  What I (and I would think a
lot
 of other users) need is an easier upgrade path.  That is, one that doesn't
 require blowing away the previous installation and config files.  Let's
face
 it, even Micro$oft managed that (they just blow away every other operating
 system on one's machine in the process!)






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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Larry Marshall


  Keep all the packages up-to-date

Probably not a popular opinion but it makes more sense to keep most of 
those packages one version behind the cutting edge in your official
distributions.  All you need to do is look at what's going on right now
with RH7.0 to see that being on the edge can spell lots of trouble.  If
you're going after the Windows user you can't have things crashing and
being incompatible as they just aren't going to buy into the "download
this and compile" model.

  Add cool new programs to distro

Here there's a tradeoff between what the computer geek wants and what you
want to support.  Most computer users aren't going to understand that a
lot of these programs aren't supported since you're the guys distributing
them.

 get rid of junk progs (WE NEED YOUR HELP HERE!)

You know what I think? I think you need to change the way you divide up
the installation options.  You're doing a really good job of letting
experts select what they want installed.  You do nothing to allow
non-computer saavy people to do this.  v7.2 seems to even drop the
"normal/developer" option from the basic installation.  In one way that
makes sense why can't a less-than-expert person decide whether they want
games on their machine or not?   

  Make instalation and usage easier

Lots of stuff that could be discussed here but it seems that with 7.2
you're moving in the right direction.  

  Support more hardware

Adding CUPS and gimp-print as install options is a significant step
forward in my view.  Being able to set up adsl is nice too.  What's REALLY
lacking in Linux right now in terms of device support is the lowly,
everyone's got one, non-scsi scanner.  I've had several people get
completely turned off to the idea of Linux when they find their scanner
isn't supported and these have been people who seem to understand the
problems with winmodem and are willing to buy a new modem. 

   Improve documentation

In my view the LM manuals are among the best I've seen.  From both a
marketing and user satisfaction point of view, however, you probably need
to make better distinctions between software you're including that other
people must document and the stuff you're supplying that's truly
Mandrake-supported software.  For the first category, it would be nice if
some web pointers were provided to get that support.

 Faxing
 USB, DVD, scanners, digital cameras

gPhoto does a pretty good job for most digital cameras.  I noticed that
it's part of 7.2.  Sure would like that scanner support though.

 wine configuration. 

This would be nice but at some point, probably soon, the Linux community
is going to have to decide whether they're going to promote the creation
of Franken-windows ports or true ports of popular software.

  not uniform enough

One of the things I find "odd" about the Linux community in general is
that application installation isn't standardized.  The notion of paths and
things like /usr/local/bin were designed into UNIX to permit a standard
installation of application software such that people wouldn't have to go
chasing all over the place looking for applications.  The /usr/local
concept also allowed installation of apps on a separate partition so that
clean installations of the OS could be done (including partition
reformatting) without destroying those app installations.   

What we see in the Linux world is that an rpm installation often dumps the
app into /usr/bin or worse into its own directory that isn't part of the
standard path (eg - Acrobat rpms put acroread into
/usr/local/Acrobat4.0.  I doubt you have control of that much but this
stuff needs to be standardized if rpms are going to be the mechanisms by
which we install software.  

  Too many programs doing the same thing

Certainly true and a result of the geek approach and richness of the
Linux world.  But the "Do we drop kedit, emacs, xemacs, vi or vim?" sorts
of questions aren't ones I'd want to answer.  Better up front choice
ability is probably a better solution.

Config programs do not tell you what they do. 

In attempting to answer questions in [newbie] I find that GUI tools are a
double-edged sword.  People want to use them because they don't know how
to do simple edits in the config files.  But this leaves them as ignorant
of what's going on as Windows users are.  Sometimes this makes them
happy; sometimes this leaves them confused.  It might be useful to figure
out what it is that's confusing them and fix that rather than dealing with
trying to educate them.

One example that comes to mind is the use of those config tools to edit
fstab.  You can do it and it even works sometimes :-)  But let's suppose a
person wants to change the name of their Windows partition from win_c to
primitive.  They jump into their GUI tool and change the name.  Then they
come to [newbie] asking "I changed the name of my Windows partition from
win_c to primitive.  Primitive seems to work but win_c still exists but
none of the files are in it any 

Re: [expert] Building an AMD Duron System - BeOS M0andrake

2000-10-19 Thread alann

Gavin Clark wrote:
 
 Speaking of BeOS, I want to check it out but their docs keep mentioning
 windows when installing it. This box is just mandrake. Can I get BeOS to
 install without MS?
 
 Thanks,
 Gavin
 


Sure, thats the BEST way to do it.. Matter of fact many BeOS "tryer
outers" are disgruntled since many people's hardware is left in such bad
shape after M$ closes and tries to load Be that Be won't boot.

Make a partition on your HD, install Be from a floppy ( you can find the
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Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Mike Rambo

Jim Holthaus wrote:
 
 
 On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
  the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
  with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address because it was
  already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the same IP address as
  the server but the only way I found to resolve that problem was to put
  the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one I've never
  seen before.
 
 There was probably another computer on the subnet with the same IP address.

That was my first thought.  We ended up getting a new hub out of the van
and hooking the server up to that hub on the table which went nowhere. 
Rebooting the server yielded the same results - dhcpd still found the
address already in use.  We then put the server back into the building
network and reset the IP address.  After a reboot dhcpd worked fine.  We
pinged the original IP.  Nothing was there.  I don't know what this was
but it definitely appeared to be something in the server itself to me.

 
  Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that the access
  problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few computers in the school
  can access one of the important programs.
 
 Start by looking at what's changed since the system last worked. Did you
 accidentally break something while trying to fix things yesterday? Do all
 of the clients know the new address of the server? After that, start working on
 network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying communications between the
 server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, look at software
 specific problems like record locking.

The only thing we changed was the server IP address.  It appears the
last day the server really worked right was three (now four) days ago. 
At least that was when the complaints started and it coincided with when
the log files started to show syslog restarts every 15 seconds or so. 
We haven't changed anything on the server for almost a month and even
then the work was only to install some new software (math blaster or
something) in a shared folder.  I'll look into the underlying network
when I next get out there - we did have a switch go down a couple of
weeks ago in another building.  Possibility I guess.

Thanks for the response.


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Re: [expert] LM 7.2 and beyond (part 2)

2000-10-19 Thread Austin L. Denyer


 Uhm...that already exists doesn't it?  I've upgraded from 7.0-7.1 without
 losing any of my setup.  I've also done the upgrade from
 7.1-7.2beta on one of my non-work computers.  Where's the problem?

I've not tried the latest releases, but upgrading 6.5 to 7.0 didn't work - I
had to totally re-install.

 Microsoft has managed to have an "upgrade" because they want to make you
 pay more money for an upgrade.  What they provide is a new installation
 that looks to see if you have an old one (and thus can pay the lower
 price of the upgrade).  But when you go from W'95-W'98 you overwrite the
 registry completely and they rearrange the directory structure
 sufficiently that you end up having to reinstall most third
 party applications.

Interesting - I've upgraded LOADS of machines from 95 to 98, and NEVER had
any problems!

Oh well.

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[expert] CDWriter Question

2000-10-19 Thread David M. Kufta

I have installed 7.2 on a system and after install adde a CDRW ide/atapi
drive. I configured the drive as described at MUO website and when I mount
the drive with the command mount -t auto /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom it will only
mount the cd read only. I have no clue why it is mounting in read only.
I would appreciate any suggestions and possible fixes.

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Re: [expert] Masq f/w and DHCPd on dynamic Internet address

2000-10-19 Thread Alexander Skwar

So sprach JASON SNYDER am Thu, Oct 19, 2000 at 12:29:46PM -0700:
 This seems like a cluggy way to do things.  Is there a more elegant way
 to keep ipchains and dhcpd information up to date?  I would especially

Hmm, you might have a look at one of the dhclient packages that are
available for the Linux Router Project (www.linuxrouter.org).  This might
get you started in some direction.  These .lrp files are in reality nothing
but tar.gz files, so there's no problem to use them on a "real" Linux like
Mandrake.

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[expert] ./configure problem

2000-10-19 Thread Jon

I get this error everyonce in a while when trying to configure and make a 
program.  It does not happen with every application, and for the life of me I 
cannot figure out how to correct it.  Can anyone shed some light on this 
error for me:

checking for KDE headers installed... configure: error: your system is not 
able
to compile a small KDE application!
Check, if you installed the KDE header files correctly. 

I have gotten this error with every distribution that I've ran.  Currently 
running Mandrake7.2rc1 with everything installed that I can think of.

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RE: [expert] logrotate

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley

rm -Rf /var/log/news /var/log/mail
mkdir -m 755 /var/log/news /var/log/mail

It works, been there, done that.

Bill


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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Ron Johnson, Jr.
 Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 11:38 AM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] logrotate
 
 
 Turgut Kalfaoglu wrote:
  
  Let's assume that you have successfully ignored the patches,
  and announcements, and ended up with a system (Mandrake 7.1)
  that has over 5 MILLION files on its /var/log/mail and 
 /news directories.
  
  Let's also assume that when you type:
[root@db2 mail]# rm *
  you get:
bash: /bin/rm: Argument list too long
  
  any ideas what you can do to save your servers? :)
  
  Thank you!
-turgut
  
  PS: 5 million files is an estimate.
  
  -
 
 Divide and conquer:
 rm [Aa]*
 rm [Bb]*
 rm [Cc]*
 etc., etc.
 
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RE: [expert] 7.1 on 486

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley

I far as I know there is only a LM 7.02 iso version for i486.
Burned a CD with it a couple days ago.

Bill

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 Jean-Philippe Gois
 Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 1:57 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] 7.1 on 486
 
 
 George McConnell wrote:
  
  will 7.1 not install on a 486?
  
 
 It will, but you have to download a dedicated iso file.
 You'll find one at www.linuxiso.org/download and at most ftp mandrake
 mirrors.
 
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Re: [expert] CDWriter Question

2000-10-19 Thread Michael

Is it a SCSI or IDE CDRW? If it is SCSI you will probably have to
configure it to pretend it's ATAPI for the purposes of writing to it. I've
set up a few different CDRW's so let me know what your using and maybe I
can help. :)

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you. -- Albert Einstein

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, David M. Kufta wrote:

 I have installed 7.2 on a system and after install adde a CDRW ide/atapi
 drive. I configured the drive as described at MUO website and when I mount
 the drive with the command mount -t auto /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom it will only
 mount the cd read only. I have no clue why it is mounting in read only.
 I would appreciate any suggestions and possible fixes.
 
   Thank's,
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Re: [expert] Masq f/w and DHCPd on dynamic Internet address

2000-10-19 Thread Greg Stewart

Download and examine the pmfirewall scripts from http://www.pointman.org.
They do exactly what you need and you might be able to simply incorporate
those scripts into your current firewall scripts...or, vice versa.

--Greg


- Original Message -
From: "JASON SNYDER" [EMAIL PROTECTED]


 A year and some change ago I scrounged together a computer, put mdk on
 it, and set it up as a masquerade firewall and DHCPd server for my cable
 modem at home.  I have a script that is run at boot (and is set up to be
 rerun at any time) to set up all of my ipchain rules and load kernel
 modules (like for ftp and such) and of course DHCPd has its config
 file.  (The ipchains script has global [script] variables to store IP
 address for interfaces, store interface is which and stuff like that.)

 A couple of my friends saw what I did and realized that they needed
 something like that, so I set up computers for them.  The problem is
 that my address never changes, so everything is always happy for me, but
 their addresses are dynamic and keep on changing.  The current mdk 7.1
 seems to be able keep rolling along when the IP address and default
 gateway change, but problems arise when the cable modem providers change
 the DNS servers and also in the rare instance that a machine gets
 rebooted. (Linux has been a solid performer, but there are others
 factors that come into play.  One household got switched to a different
 network and was issued a new cable modem along with that and things
 chugged along ok until a month or so down the road when the computer was
 rebooted.)

 A possible solution that I thought of, but haven't tried yet would be to
 do the following:  Write a script to update the ipchains and dhcpd
 config file when addresses change then have the script reload dhcpd and
 rerun the ipchains config file.  Set up an hourly cron job to run this
 update script.
 1. First have the script archive any pre-existing Sed scripts to update
 dhcpd and ipchains.  Also have it look for a saved copy of resolv.conf
 and archive the saved resolve.conf file if present.
 2. Have the update script run ifconfig and an Awk script to pull the
 Internet IP address out of the ifconfig output and generate a Sed script
 to update the ipchains and dhcpd config files.  Also make a new saved
 copy of resolv.conf
 3. Run diff on the new and archived resolv.conf files.  If the new one
 is different, then run an Awk script to append Sed commands to the Sed
 script to update the dhcpd config file.  (Do nothing if there is no
 archived file.)
 4. Then, if there are archived Sed scripts, run diff to check for
 differences between the new and archived scripts.  If there is a
 difference, run the new Sed script and rerun the ipchains config or
 reload dhcpd.  (Do nothing if there is no archived file.

 This seems like a cluggy way to do things.  Is there a more elegant way
 to keep ipchains and dhcpd information up to date?  I would especially
 like to do something that would be triggered to update everything
 necessary the moment that dhcpcd got new IP information from the ISP.









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RE: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley


I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
does it know "the address is already in use"?

Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
dhcpd.conf file say?

Bill

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 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
 Behalf Of Mike Rambo
 Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 4:37 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness
 
 
 Jim Holthaus wrote:
  
  
  On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, Mike Rambo wrote:
   the box refused to start the dhcp server daemon
   with the error that it couldn't bind to the IP address 
 because it was
   already in use.  There is and was nothing else on the 
 same IP address as
   the server but the only way I found to resolve that 
 problem was to put
   the server on a different IP address.  That's a wierd one 
 I've never
   seen before.
  
  There was probably another computer on the subnet with the 
 same IP address.
 
 That was my first thought.  We ended up getting a new hub out 
 of the van
 and hooking the server up to that hub on the table which went 
 nowhere. 
 Rebooting the server yielded the same results - dhcpd still found the
 address already in use.  We then put the server back into the building
 network and reset the IP address.  After a reboot dhcpd 
 worked fine.  We
 pinged the original IP.  Nothing was there.  I don't know 
 what this was
 but it definitely appeared to be something in the server itself to me.
 
  
   Now this morning I'm starting to get more complaints that 
 the access
   problem has returned to some degree.  Only a few 
 computers in the school
   can access one of the important programs.
  
  Start by looking at what's changed since the system last 
 worked. Did you
  accidentally break something while trying to fix things 
 yesterday? Do all
  of the clients know the new address of the server? After 
 that, start working on
  network troubleshooting. Make sure your underlying 
 communications between the
  server and clients works. Once you are confident of this, 
 look at software
  specific problems like record locking.
 
 The only thing we changed was the server IP address.  It appears the
 last day the server really worked right was three (now four) 
 days ago. 
 At least that was when the complaints started and it 
 coincided with when
 the log files started to show syslog restarts every 15 seconds or so. 
 We haven't changed anything on the server for almost a month and even
 then the work was only to install some new software (math blaster or
 something) in a shared folder.  I'll look into the underlying network
 when I next get out there - we did have a switch go down a couple of
 weeks ago in another building.  Possibility I guess.
 
 Thanks for the response.
 
 
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RE: [expert] Masq f/w and DHCPd on dynamic Internet address

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley

Seems overly complex to me.  You should run dhclient to get a IP address
from you ISP for one NIC card.  Set the other NIC card for your private
LAN IP address (say 192.168.0.1).  Run dhcpd to serve out private IP
addresses
for the other computers.  Run a DNS server on your box so you don't need
the ISP's name servers.  One ipchains rule is all you need to setup IP
masquerading and it doesn't require the IP address of the dhclient NIC.
Just use 0.0.0.0/0.0.0.0 for the internet and 192.168.0.0/24 for the private
LAN.

Or am I missing something here?

Bill

PS You can prohibit dhclient from changing your resolv.conf by using:
supersede domain-name "my.domain";
supersede domain-name-servers 192.168.0.1;
in the /etc/dhclient.conf file.

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 Subject: [expert] Masq f/w and DHCPd on dynamic Internet address


 A year and some change ago I scrounged together a computer, put mdk on
 it, and set it up as a masquerade firewall and DHCPd server
 for my cable
 modem at home.  I have a script that is run at boot (and is
 set up to be
 rerun at any time) to set up all of my ipchain rules and load kernel
 modules (like for ftp and such) and of course DHCPd has its config
 file.  (The ipchains script has global [script] variables to store IP
 address for interfaces, store interface is which and stuff like that.)

 A couple of my friends saw what I did and realized that they needed
 something like that, so I set up computers for them.  The problem is
 that my address never changes, so everything is always happy
 for me, but
 their addresses are dynamic and keep on changing.  The current mdk 7.1
 seems to be able keep rolling along when the IP address and default
 gateway change, but problems arise when the cable modem
 providers change
 the DNS servers and also in the rare instance that a machine gets
 rebooted. (Linux has been a solid performer, but there are others
 factors that come into play.  One household got switched to a
 different
 network and was issued a new cable modem along with that and things
 chugged along ok until a month or so down the road when the
 computer was
 rebooted.)

 A possible solution that I thought of, but haven't tried yet
 would be to
 do the following:  Write a script to update the ipchains and dhcpd
 config file when addresses change then have the script reload
 dhcpd and
 rerun the ipchains config file.  Set up an hourly cron job to run this
 update script.
 1. First have the script archive any pre-existing Sed scripts
 to update
 dhcpd and ipchains.  Also have it look for a saved copy of resolv.conf
 and archive the saved resolve.conf file if present.
 2. Have the update script run ifconfig and an Awk script to pull the
 Internet IP address out of the ifconfig output and generate a
 Sed script
 to update the ipchains and dhcpd config files.  Also make a new saved
 copy of resolv.conf
 3. Run diff on the new and archived resolv.conf files.  If the new one
 is different, then run an Awk script to append Sed commands to the Sed
 script to update the dhcpd config file.  (Do nothing if there is no
 archived file.)
 4. Then, if there are archived Sed scripts, run diff to check for
 differences between the new and archived scripts.  If there is a
 difference, run the new Sed script and rerun the ipchains config or
 reload dhcpd.  (Do nothing if there is no archived file.

 This seems like a cluggy way to do things.  Is there a more
 elegant way
 to keep ipchains and dhcpd information up to date?  I would especially
 like to do something that would be triggered to update everything
 necessary the moment that dhcpcd got new IP information from the ISP.







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RE: [expert] startup in what looks like single mode

2000-10-19 Thread Bill Shirley



 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Buchan Milne
 Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2000 12:08 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [expert] startup in what looks like single mode
 
 
 Read the line above "you have been dropped to a shell, enter root
 password or CTRL-D for normal startup" and it will probably 
 tell you you
 need to run fsck on a partition (most likely root). So run fsck (fsck
 can only be run on unmounted partitions, which is why you got this

fschk can only be run on READ ONLY partitions

 message) after entering your root password. When you are done, CTRL-D.
 
 Buchan
 
 Klar Brian D Contr MSG/SWS wrote:
  
  When I restart my PC, linux (Mandrake 7.1) comes up like it 
 is in single mode.
  I get some kind of error stating that it is trying to mount 
 loopback, and cant cause it is already mounted

Is there a loopback device in your /etc/fstab? Comment it out.

  the I get the "you have been dropped to a shell, enter root 
 password or CTRL-D for normal startup"
  CTRL-D just puts me into a reboot with the same stopper, same point.
  Entering root's pw then issuing init 5, brings the machine 
 right up, and functions great.
  I have noticed upon reboot there is something stating that 
 fsck will be forced upon next reboot
  What do I need to do to get the reboot back to normal??
  Is there a shutdown script that needs modified or what ??
  
  Brian D. Klar - CVE
  OTS
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Re: [expert] Masq f/w and DHCPd on dynamic Internet address

2000-10-19 Thread BillK

One thing that has been worrying me for awhile is the number of people
who use home brew ipchains scripts and who may not *really* understand
how it works!  I hope you have tested it for holes etc!  Go the
pmfirewall or other well known script way and be sure of what you are
doing when you modify, and test afterwards!

BillK


Greg Stewart wrote:
 
 Download and examine the pmfirewall scripts from http://www.pointman.org.
 They do exactly what you need and you might be able to simply incorporate
 those scripts into your current firewall scripts...or, vice versa.
 
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Re: [expert] CDWriter Question

2000-10-19 Thread Nick Webb

Well, that's what you want.  You don't want to mount the cdrom to write to
it!  You only need to use mount to read a disk, use cdrecord (console) or
other program (cdrtoaster and Xcdroast are my favs) to write/rewrite
CDs.  I'm assuming the instructions on LM site were to instruct you on how
to setup the 'ide-scsi' stuff if your runinning and eide/atapi drive.  I hope that
helps.  I can help with ide cdrw's, scsi is better left to someone else ;)

_Nick Webb ([EMAIL PROTECTED])

On Thu, 19 Oct 2000, David M. Kufta wrote:

 I have installed 7.2 on a system and after install adde a CDRW ide/atapi
 drive. I configured the drive as described at MUO website and when I mount
 the drive with the command mount -t auto /dev/scd0 /mnt/cdrom it will only
 mount the cd read only. I have no clue why it is mounting in read only.
 I would appreciate any suggestions and possible fixes.
 
   Thank's,
   Dave
 
 
 

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[expert] Flickering X - Reboot seems only cure

2000-10-19 Thread Logos

I have a curious problem...

Sometimes when I leave the machine running and the power management daemon
shuts the monitor off, when I press a key or move the mouse to bring the
display back up, it continually flickers with mouse movement. This doesn't
happen all the time, but enough to be annoying. It also happens when I
ctrl+alt+fx to a different ttyxx, but then again, not all the time. Generally I
run enlightenment as my DM, but I have also experienced this with other DM's
like KDE, Afterstep, etc...nothing seems to cure this problem except a reboot.
I have tried restarting the server from the login manager after logging out of
my current DM, ctrl+alt+backspace to kill and re-login, and other things to no
avail. I have a PCChips PC100 M741lmrt mobo with an SiS 6326 chipset. I use
the SVGA server set at 16bit color at a res of 1024x768 normally. I have tried
different settings and still the flickering occurs sporadically...sometimes I
can have an uptime of weeks without it occurring and sometimes just a few
minutes. This has happened with every installation I have ever performed of
both mdk 7.0 and 7.1. It's got to be a hardware issue or an issue with whatever
daemon puts my monitor on standby. I thought apmd controlled this, but
disabling it doesn't prevent this from occurring. So, am I missing something
here? My monitor is Energy Star Compliant as most are (KDS Visual Sensations
7e) and I am running the stock X-server set that installs with the mdk 7.1
ISO downloadable set...All my hardware is supported, at least experimentally,
by mdk 7.1 on the surface, but is there a known issue with any of the
aforementioned video hardware? My 6326 set relies on 8mb of memory from my 160MB
of RAM and I'm not running any resource sucking graphics programs or games,
sometimes the flickering occurs when I've rebooted and then left it at the
login manager. It remains off until I touch a key or move my Logitech
MarbleMouse-two button(recognized as a Generic PS/2 with 3 button
emulation enabled)..it comes on for a second and the monitor returns to standby
during mouse movement and when mouse movement ceases. What's going on here?
This didn't occur with mdk 6.5 or redhat 6.1 installs.


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RE: [expert] syslog restarts and other wierdness

2000-10-19 Thread Phil Connor


I don't understand, dhcpd should just use the address of the NIC.  How
does it know "the address is already in use"?

Nope! try setting the ipaddress for DHCPD as .0 example 192.168.20.0 and
then set your range to start with your nic address like 192.168.20.20 -
192.168.20.40

Perhaps there is more that one dhcpd running on the box.  What does the
log file say?  What does the output from ifconfig say?  What does your
dhcpd.conf file say?

Only if he has several or virtual address's which will all have to have an
entry/declaration even if their not used to give address out.

Phil Connor
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