Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen
"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Interrupt the Aurora boot and get to the console. Log in or enter the root password, depending on how you got there. Then UNINSTALL Aurora. I do not think this is the Aurora problem. I booted also without using Aurora at all and the problem persists. I managed however to get Gnome running at one of the times I rebooted Mandrake. That was after I disabled X start-up at boot (I booted from CD in rescue mode and edited file responsible for it, commenting out the lines). However after trying to configure screen saver everything blew up again. mike ryder wrote: Use the rescue CD to boot the system and then change /etc/inittab so that the initdefault is 3 not 5. This will force the system to boot without the X-windows stuff. This I managed to do in different way, (see above) Now reboot the server and you should come up with a console login. When I do just startx - black screen (I can here my monitor changing its mode). One could suspected wrongly defined monitor. However when I do xinit -- kde | gnome // or startx -- kde | gnome I get the following error message: Connection refuse errno (111) unable to connect X server No such process errno (3) :Server error I had this problem when upgrading from MDK 7.1 to MDK 7.2 and it was caused by a setting in the X config files that stopped the X server from loading correctly and chewed up all of the resources. Problem - I forgot what the problem was !! ;-) While screen is black, it seems like X server or whatever process is really chewed up all of the resources. The machine does not react on any keyboard action (event Caps Lock does not work). I reinstalled MAndrake again and surprisingly the same effect. CAn it be a bug in Xfree 3.6.X ? Previously I used Xfree 4.X. By the way I have Matrox MGA G200 with 4 MB VRAM. Any help still appreciated. I am tempted to install Red Hat again. Declan Moriarty wrote: Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line is startx xerrors 21. That might be a solution. Cheers. There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some obscure file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system sees I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to get some sleep before another working day. Any help still appreciated. Thanks for the suggestions already sent. Darek
Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen
Hello Darek, I would suspect the screen resolution that is being applied in the autoboot (init 5) which your matrox card handles badly. I recall now that I had to use Xconfigurator to get the screen resolution dwon to something pretty basic (800x600) and then it would boot. The fact that startx won't work would seem to indicate this. hth Mike - Original Message - From: "Darek KUZARA" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote: Interrupt the Aurora boot and get to the console. Log in or enter the root password, depending on how you got there. Then UNINSTALL Aurora. I do not think this is the Aurora problem. I booted also without using Aurora at all and the problem persists. I managed however to get Gnome running at one of the times I rebooted Mandrake. That was after I disabled X start-up at boot (I booted from CD in rescue mode and edited file responsible for it, commenting out the lines). However after trying to configure screen saver everything blew up again. mike ryder wrote: Use the rescue CD to boot the system and then change /etc/inittab so that the initdefault is 3 not 5. This will force the system to boot without the X-windows stuff. This I managed to do in different way, (see above) Now reboot the server and you should come up with a console login. When I do just startx - black screen (I can here my monitor changing its mode). One could suspected wrongly defined monitor. However when I do xinit -- kde | gnome // or startx -- kde | gnome I get the following error message: Connection refuse errno (111) unable to connect X server No such process errno (3) :Server error I had this problem when upgrading from MDK 7.1 to MDK 7.2 and it was caused by a setting in the X config files that stopped the X server from loading correctly and chewed up all of the resources. Problem - I forgot what the problem was !! ;-) While screen is black, it seems like X server or whatever process is really chewed up all of the resources. The machine does not react on any keyboard action (event Caps Lock does not work). I reinstalled MAndrake again and surprisingly the same effect. CAn it be a bug in Xfree 3.6.X ? Previously I used Xfree 4.X. By the way I have Matrox MGA G200 with 4 MB VRAM. Any help still appreciated. I am tempted to install Red Hat again. Declan Moriarty wrote: Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line is startx xerrors 21. That might be a solution. Cheers. There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some obscure file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system sees I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to get some sleep before another working day. Any help still appreciated. Thanks for the suggestions already sent. Darek
[expert] Relinking in Galeon/Mozilla -- how?
Dear friends: After experimenting with the failed dependencies of Galeon 10.2 and Mozilla 0.8.1. for Mandrake, I have finally settled on galeon-0.8.1-rh6_2, which is a) a i386 file, NOT a i586 file, b) is a Red Hat i386 file and c) most strangely, is to be found in Mandrake-devel/unsupported/7.2/i586 (!). A Red Hat 386 file right in the middle of nothing but i586 Mandrake files. Note: This version of Galeon (0.8.1) is dated March 1 and is based on Mozilla 0.8 (dated Feb 17, 2001), not on the latest Mozilla 0.8.1 (dated March 26, 2001). That's fine. By the way, I did not find a src.rpm file under SRPMS in the corresponding directory. Well, that doesn't bother me, folks. Just mentioning this as background for my problem. PROBLEM: I installed Mozilla 0.8 (a 586 file, which I rebuilt from the RH 6.2 source rpm). No problem. I then installed Galeon 8.1 (a Galeon version compatible with Mozilla 0.8). The installation went very well. All plugins and bookmarks were transferred automatically. However, during the install, Galeon issued the following error message. It looks pretty harmless, but I don't really know how to carry out the instructions. Meanwhile, Galeon keeps crashing when I try to surf. Is the crashing related to the error message below? [sher@sher07 sher]$ galeon /usr/bin/galeon-bin: Symbol `__vt_28nsCreateInstanceByContractID' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking /usr/bin/galeon-bin: Symbol `__vt_16nsQueryInterface' has different size in shared object, consider re-linking Thanks so much. I like Galeon, but if it keeps crashing, I'll never get a chance to find out what it can or can't do. Hope to hear from a Galeon fan. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] Installing 586 over 386?
Dear friends: A quick question: If you are installing a i586 file over an i386 file (all things being otherwise identical, including distro, etc.) should you first uninstall the i386 and then install the i586 or is this automatically taken care of by the --Uhv option, just as it when installing higher versions of programs on top of each other (e.g. Mozilla .8 over Mozilla .7)? Are we talking about the same UNINSTALL/INSTALL process in -Uvh or are we talking about apples and oranges? Thank you so much. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop
Having a few problems installing 7.2 on new laptop. Basically the installation hangs at the start while configuring PCMCIA. I believe its possible to disable PCMCIA installation, and thus perform it later when the system is installed. Can someone tell me how to specify this at the start of installation? Thanks Simon
[expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine
This may or may not be the right mailing list, so pardon me if it's not. I'm running LM7.2 on a laptop that's on our network. I'd like to try to create the equivalent of this batch file that launches one of our applications. rem TPM v5.0.2 NASD 9/21/99 edit by logic7 - 3/9/01 set SAI_ROOT=\\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ set PATH=%SAI_ROOT%winase32;%PATH%; set SAIPATH=%SAI_ROOT%ea;%SAI_ROOT%efm;%SAI_ROOT%ee;%SAI_ROOT%evgate;%SAI_ROOT%eserver;% SAI_ROOT%esmicons %SAI_ROOT%winase32\kml ea -H:usms1chd10 -B:usms1chd11 The problem is that this is a win32 app. We have a Java based version that launches from a browser, but I chan't get it to function properly, if at all. I can view the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ in Gnomba and browse it's contents, how would I get to launch this thing, though, with wine?
Re: [expert] Installing 586 over 386?
On Friday 06 April 2001 03:54 am, Benjamin Sher wrote: If you are installing a i586 file over an i386 file (all things being otherwise identical, including distro, etc.) should you first uninstall the i386 and then install the i586 or is this automatically taken care of by the --Uhv option, '-Uvh' will upgrade prior versions of an rpm, no matter what the optimization (eg, i386). for example: I just d/l'd a cooker 'mkbootdisk' src rpm and rebuilt it on 7.2, which created 'mkbootdisk-1.2.8-3mdk.i686.rpm'. I then 'rpm -Uvh'd this i686 rpm to upgrade 7.2's default i586 'mkbootdisk-1.2.7' rpm. Works the other direction too, I've used i386 rpms to upgrade i586'rs. '-Uvh --force' can be used to 'upgrade' the same version rpm, or to downgrade to a prior version, again optimization makes no difference. No need to uninstall the existing rpm in any case. -- Dale Earnhardt, the greatest stock car driver ever, he's won his 8th and His Greatest Championship Tom Brinkman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Galveston Bay
Re: [expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine
one other note: I've just got the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ mounted in /mnt/sai502 George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/NL@[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/06/2001 10:09:56 AM Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] cc: Subject: [expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine This may or may not be the right mailing list, so pardon me if it's not. I'm running LM7.2 on a laptop that's on our network. I'd like to try to create the equivalent of this batch file that launches one of our applications. rem TPM v5.0.2 NASD 9/21/99 edit by logic7 - 3/9/01 set SAI_ROOT=\\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ set PATH=%SAI_ROOT%winase32;%PATH%; set SAIPATH =%SAI_ROOT%ea;%SAI_ROOT%efm;%SAI_ROOT%ee;%SAI_ROOT%evgate;%SAI_ROOT%eserver;% SAI_ROOT%esmicons %SAI_ROOT%winase32\kml ea -H:usms1chd10 -B:usms1chd11 The problem is that this is a win32 app. We have a Java based version that launches from a browser, but I chan't get it to function properly, if at all. I can view the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ in Gnomba and browse it's contents, how would I get to launch this thing, though, with wine?
[expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?
I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest version and installed it successfully. However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of drop-down choices in the graphic login. It used to be there. How do I add it back to the options? Thanks. Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED] Registered Linux user 183185
Re: [expert] Installing 586 over 386?
Dear Tom: Thanks so very much for the clarification. And thanks a million for the instructions on installing RealPlayer8 with plugins and mimetypes. That's what I did -- thanks to you. The other option, that of adding the plugins and mimetypes MANUALLY, did not please me at all. So, your solution was powerful, simple and on target. Thanks again. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Dear Craig: May I suggest one thing that may or may not solve your problem. I had the same problem with Netscape. It crashe every ten minutes. Finally, after consulting with a computer friend, I decided to switch from a PS/2 mouse to a serial mouse. Real easy to do. Bingo, all problems with Netscape disappeared. Or almost all problems. Now, it is pretty rare for Netscape to actually crash. I can write a letter in Netscape for two hours with the security that it won't be wiped out by a crash. Still, just to be sure, I save it as a draft every few paragraphs. Try it (or try a USB mouse). The problem in my case was an IRQ conflict that was causing instability everywhere, not just in Netscape. And suddenly, KDE was stable as a rock, and even Netscape behaved. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Ya, with the 7.2 dist, Konqueror does not load java pages properly. Plus, I use the Netscape SSLIMAP functions to check email and have been unable to find another email client that supports multiple SSLIMAPaccounts. :( Craig Sprout wrote: "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote: > > Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking > up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. You mean besides every stinking day? Disabling Java and Javascript go quite a ways towards making it behave nicely, but other than that I don't really have any suggestions for you. I've noticed that sometimes, just loading a heavy page (500+ Kb) can bring the foul lizard to its knees. I'm going to put 8.0b3 on this box over the weekend, and play around a little more with Konqueror. From the little bit of dabbling I've done, I am impressed. I'll have to see how it does under a heavy load. -- Craig Sprout Network Administrator Crown Parts and Machine http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614
Re: [expert]
You have 2 problems, and I'm going to solve the small one. The mouse cursor as a block is because X defaults your card to a h/w cursor. You need a line like option=sw_cursor DON'T TRUST THE SYNTAX! Something like that. It never caused me a crash though. On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, Sean Coyne wrote: does anyone know why harddrake would crash whenever i run it?? i have a PIII 800 with voodoo 5 5500 AGP 64 mb card. i believe that the card is the reason, b/c the problem didnt occur when i had a different card with the system, however, after every fresh install, i have this problem. the screen turns black and i can see a block shaped curser. i am able to kill x with a ctrl alt F2 combination, but then i have to reboot to be able to restart x. -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Applied Researches - Ireland's Foremost Electronic Hardware Genius A Slightly Serious(TM) Company Good judgement comes from experience; experience comes from bad judgement.
Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen
Try the syntax I gave you, which I in turn was given some time back. The output is more comprehensive. If it's not very current, you can be sure the cpu resources are getting hogged by something. The other one to check is the xinitrc file. That at least is in the obvious place - NOT! /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/ -- Regards, Declan Moriarty Declan Moriarty wrote: Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line is startx xerrors 21. That might be a solution. Cheers. There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some obscure file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system sees I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to get some sleep before another working day. Any help still appreciated. Thanks for the suggestions already sent. Darek
Re[2]: [expert] GUI startup - black screen
Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Try the syntax I gave you, which I in turn was given some time back. The output is more comprehensive. And almost always the actual problem is WAY back in the output stream, long gone from your display before you have a chance to see it. So please get that output and send the entire thing (yes, I mean it! ;-) If you REALLY think its too big for the list, send a copy to me and (I'm assuming here that its ok with Declan) to Declan and then WE can decide to send it to the list ;-) That command you want is: startx xerrors 21 which will save ALL the output from the startx command in the file xerrors in the current directory. Email us that file... Please. rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re[2]: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote: Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. If it's not a Java issue, it's likely the NS' inability to handle communications problems like: - DNS failures, delays, etc - [news|pop|???] server stops|not responding - lost packets - etc. Oh, yeah, those can make netscape look like its locked up also. USUALLY it will recover if I'm patient. Its the 100% cpu load problems that never go away by themselves. Yeah, I suppose we really DO need a good browser, don't we! rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re: [expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop
Courtesy copy sent via bcc. "Simon Millward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Having a few problems installing 7.2 on new laptop. Basically the installation hangs at the start while configuring PCMCIA. I had something similar (thought it was with 7.1 though, hmm). Anyway, it MAY work for you to do what I did - click on the next green star over there on the left side - the next step of installation. For me, what this did was go to the next step, complete that step, then go back to the 'failed' step. So, I just clicked on the NEXT green star, did that step, and so forth until it was all done. All this is from fuzzy memory from around January or so, YMMV! I believe its possible to disable PCMCIA installation, and thus perform it later when the system is installed. I'm not sure - does 'expert' give you this level of control? Anyone else know the real answer to Simon's question? rc PS! HOORAY! No more bounced messages from v3ps!!! Thanks for the one who u*n*s*u*b*s*c*r*i*b*e*d them! Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re[2]: [expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop
Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: blah blah blah So, right after I send this, Simon sent his successful summary. Um, sorry! Never mind! rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
RE: [expert] GUI startup - black screen
sounds like x resolution is set too high,try a lower resolution and your monitor won't blank. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:24 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen How long did you watch the black screen? I have seen as long as a two-minute wait while some networking problem "times out", before X launches and I get a login prompt. At the time of the problem, other apps also took a long time to launch. I had to go through and clean up my networking settings, which took care of the problem. Dave On Thursday 05 April 2001 03:08, Darek KUZARA said: Hello All, Recently I have re-installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 with an option to start-up GUI after boot. I have defined Gnome as WM and screen resolution 1280x1024 with 16 bit colours (vga mode for lilo 794). However the installation type was "user" (not expert which I used to use before) and therefore my default boot manager is Grub. During the process of the Mandrake installation I tested the X and it was fine. However when I boot, Aurora boot works fine till it starts to launch WM, screen becomes black. I cannot not switch to text console either. The only remedy at this point is hardware reboot which file system (ext2) dos not like very much ;-). I booted my Mandrake from an installation CD in recovery mode in order to view some X files or Grub files but apparently I did not find anything to change. Any help appreciated. Regards, Darek
Re: [expert] Mozilla .8 -- Manually changing fonts
Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear friends: I went ahead last night and downloaded the older Feb. 17, 2001 Red Hat 6.2 version of Mozilla from: http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla0.8/RH6/ I wanted a 586 version of Mozilla and Red Hat 6.2 had only a 386 version. Meanwhile, the Mandrake 586 version available on Cooker is inaccessible to us LM72 folks because the rpm that is used in LM 8.0 is incompatible with the rpm used in LM72. Benjamin; No reason to change hats! You can find the latest for us LM72 users in the Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq section of your closest mirror. I downloaded the Mandrakefreq.iso and used the LiveUpdate to bring my system up to the latest programs. I get my updates here: ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq/i585 ftp://fufus.w3.org/linux/Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq/SRPMS Best Regards Larry -- Sword'sEdge VoiceMail/Fax: (858) 860-6406 x1587
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Oddly enough, I had the opposite problem As soon as I put 8.0 on, I could no longer access the internet through my lan. I tried running Mandrake 8.0b2 on one computer, while I left my good Linux computer running 7.2 (which it is running flawlessly right now). 8.0 can see and ping all the other computers on my lan, and it can ping through to my ISP if you specify the ISP's actualy IP address, but I can't access any webpages by the domain names. This has been baffling me for quite some time, and I have thus far attributed it to mandrake being beta, I'll be trying out beta 3 later this evening, but I'd like to knwo if anyone else has any information regarding this. I'm running a Windows NT4 server as a fileserver/proxy through a cable modem to the internet. Everythign works fine on Windows, and in Mandrake 7.2 on the same machine, but as soon as I try mandrake 8.0beta1 or beta2, I get nothing on the internet. Thanks Ya, with the 7.2 dist, Konqueror does not load java pages properly. Plus, I use the Netscape SSL IMAP functions to check email and have been unable to find another email client that supports multiple SSL IMAP accounts. :( I feel your pain, there. I had hopes for KMail, but it doesn't look like it's going to happen this time around. The 7.2 distro was bad for me all around. I went back to 7.1 almost immediately. It was weird -- after I put 7.2 on, I couldn't get my cable modem to work. I tried everything, and got nothing. I beat my head against the wall, recompiled older versions of programs, everything you can think of. Got nothing. I put 8.0b3 on that box, and up everything came, and away we went, cable modem and all. I'm still scratching my head on that one. -- Craig Sprout Network Administrator Crown Parts and Machine http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com
Re[2]: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Lyric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oddly enough, I had the opposite problem As soon as I put 8.0 on, I could no longer access the internet through my lan. I tried running Mandrake 8.0b2 on one computer, while I left my good Linux computer running 7.2 (which it is running flawlessly right now). 8.0 can see and ping all the other computers on my lan, and it can ping through to my ISP if you specify the ISP's actualy IP address, but I can't access any webpages by the domain names. What is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf on each machine? copy the working one over to the broken one, then let us know if things work better. (You will probably have to reload any currently running programs for them to notice) (Save a backup of the original just in case ;-) rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Most assuredly yes. About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again. On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614 -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. --
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
I know it's not a fix, but instead of kill -9 from a cli, try ctrl-alt-esc, and left mouse click on the dead netscape. This works for me. Sad when we can only compare the best ways to kill netscape. I am disappointed. I just wish konquerer were faster. ron --- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most assuredly yes. About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again. On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614 -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. -- = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Ok, Ok, i'll put in my $4.00/300*(3/2)It's almost (i said ALMOST) funny reading this thread. When i first installed 7.1 i noticed the same problem w/ Netscrape. After a short while it "went away". Then when i did a re-install the problem came back again, only to go away again after an even shorter time. Somewhere in the middle of a dozen or so subsequent re-installs (trying to get the stupid thing to install accross various drives w/ different partitions) i recognized the pattern: Nutscrape, as someone called it, started working better as soon as i recompiled the kernel. NOW IT STILL HAPPENS MIND YOU, but not _nearly_ as often as it used to. I also got around to upgrading to the latest 4.xx version w/ 128bit encryption etc and still no complaints. If i really wanted i might build src rpm and try installing it (yes i have no idea what the problem is). But the biggest difference seemed to come when i would recompile the kernel. Go figure. j --- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most assuredly yes. About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again. On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614 -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain. -- __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re: [expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?
On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:08 -0400 "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest version and installed it successfully. However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of drop-down choices in the graphic login. It used to be there. How do I add it back to the options? Jeff I am Presently using LM 7.2 with extras. Since LM 7.1 I have had this problem as well and have asked and seen asked dozens of times both on the XFCE and the Mandrake Lists a simple straight forward solution to the problem. Many and believe me MANY people have responded to this with a multitude of methods, few have voiced success though there has been the occasional victory. However for me personally nothing has EVER worked. Perhaps Mandrakesoft could work more closely with Oliver who lives and works in France? This is a fine WindowManager and should be treated as such. Some have even thought icewm was xfce because of Mandrakes paticular style of configuration. I always end up putting an .xinitrc file for each user who uses xfce into their home directory and going the startx route. Though AutoLogin as primary user works too. Sorry this doesnt answer your question but I have spent MANY hours following up on solutions from helpful and knowledgable individuals and with several years of Linux/Mandrake/XFCE use I still can't make it work right!!! Maybe you will be one of the Lucky Ones :) Good Luck William Bouterse Talkeetna, Ak
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape hands down for me in stability and page loading. And it has only improved in 2.1! By the way, a new opera version is out today. I'm just about to install and try it out. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote: I just wish konquerer were faster. ron
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:31 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: [Going back to your ealier posting, you had a UH entry overlapping the subnet; have you tried deleting it? I'm not sure why a host route would even be there when a net route exists...] Err... How do I delete that? Sorry, concerning net I'm a newbie. I forgot the default output of tcpdump was terse... Can you give the output of "tcpdump -ex"? 1. lapmolch is pinging molch: [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex tcpdump: listening on eth0 10:32:06.173354 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b Broadcast arp 60: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell lapmolch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402 c0a8 6403 10:32:06.173432 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b arp 42: arp reply molch.wolf-b.de is-at 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0001 0800 0604 0002 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402 10:32:06.173906 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 ip 98: lapmolch.wolf-b.de molch.wolf-b.de: icmp: echo request 4500 0054 4001 3153 c0a8 6402 c0a8 6403 0800 291a 6c00 827f cd3a 2828 0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213 1415 1617 1819 10:32:06.173996 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 [.] 2. molch is pinging lapmolch: [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex tcpdump: listening on eth0 10:37:02.071155 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 10:37:03.065233 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 10:37:04.065234 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 [] Looks like molch doesn't know who molch is? wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] v3ps@mail.ru has been un*sub*scribed.
Pierre Fortin wrote: David Rankin wrote: Pierre Fortin wrote: Not a nice thing to do; but after so many complaints, and seeing the problem for myself, I un*sub*scribed [EMAIL PROTECTED] HTH, Pierre Many thanks! DAMN!! It didn't work... anyone have any objections to un*sub'ing **[EMAIL PROTECTED]** which, upon closer inspection, is probably the listed recipient...? Pierre -- David Rankin Nacogdoches, Texas -- Linux (Up 15 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... not Windows X^P Last reboot reason: 01/03/27: winter storm 6hr power outage No objections. Everytime I or anyone else post to this group or message gets bounced from [EMAIL PROTECTED] The last time it said the .ru mailbox was full. The mailbox owner was probably taken to Siberia... -- David C. Rankin Nacogdoches, Texas
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:20 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote: Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time. If it's not a Java issue, it's likely the NS' inability to handle communications problems like: - DNS failures, delays, etc - [news|pop|???] server stops|not responding - lost packets - etc. Really hoping for a new browser real soon now... That's what all of us do... But in the meantime: I used to have that Netscape Communicator beast on my box wolfing down all my 256M of memory. So I did 3 things: 1. changed busmouse to serial mouse 2. disabled javascript and java on Netscape 3. finally gave Communicator the kick in the a** and changed to Navigator. Combined with me changing to a *real* MUA (see header). This solved all my probs with netscape. I even do my banking with it (having 128bit encryption). Sometimes Nescape is on for weeks and doesn't crash or eat memory. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
[expert] Notebook install via ftp [3. edition]
I'm still not able to get a ping through from my notebook with TinyLinux (Kernel 2.2.6) to my desktop (MDK 7.2). But today I found a SuSE 7.0 evaluation CD in my mail and installed it on a spare harddisk in my desktop. Network configuration was a 2 minutes job and drumroll the desktop can ping the notebook and vice versa. Telnet and ftp work without any prob. I checked both systems (Mandrake and SuSE) and in both systems I made the same entries (IPs and names). There it works, here it doesn't. ? This leaves me with one option: Mandrake must use a different handling of networking. But how does that help me? I don't like SuSE that much. So I just installed it out of curiosity but don't want to keep it. wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:31 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote: [Going back to your ealier posting, you had a UH entry overlapping the subnet; have you tried deleting it? I'm not sure why a host route would even be there when a net route exists...] Err... How do I delete that? Sorry, concerning net I'm a newbie. route del 192.168.100.X (X matches what is in route table) I forgot the default output of tcpdump was terse... Can you give the output of "tcpdump -ex"? 1. lapmolch is pinging molch: [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex tcpdump: listening on eth0 lapmolch(.2) ARPing for molch(.3): 10:32:06.173354 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b Broadcast arp 60: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell lapmolch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402 c0a8 6403 Since tcpdump is seeing this packet, molch does see lapmolch's ARP, and replies here: 10:32:06.173432 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b arp 42: arp reply molch.wolf-b.de is-at 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0001 0800 0604 0002 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402 which lapmolch sees allowing it to ping, which molch sees (it's running tcpdump): 10:32:06.173906 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 ip 98: lapmolch.wolf-b.de molch.wolf-b.de: icmp: echo request 4500 0054 4001 3153 c0a8 6402 c0a8 6403 0800 291a 6c00 827f cd3a 2828 0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213 1415 1617 1819 then, for some reason molch tries to ARP itself rather than send a ping reply: 10:32:06.173996 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 So molch appears to have a problem above. Let's look at the other now... [.] 2. molch is pinging lapmolch: [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex tcpdump: listening on eth0 molch is ARPing for itself 10:37:02.071155 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 gets no reply, tries again: 10:37:03.065233 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 and again: 10:37:04.065234 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8 6403 c0a8 6401 [] Looks like molch doesn't know who molch is? Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused... Did you make any changes to molch recently? Pierre wobo -- GPG-Fingerprint: FE5A 0891 7027 8D1B 4E3F 73C1 AD9B D732 A698 82EE For Public Key mailto [EMAIL PROTECTED] with Subject: GPG-Request --- ISDN4LINUX-FAQ -- Deutsch: http://www.wolf-b.de/i4l/i4lfaq-de.html -- Linux (Up 16 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... not Windows X^P Last reboot reason: 01/03/27: winter storm 6hr power outage
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
I guess I just need to work with it more. Maybe its the "blank" while loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable java. --- s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape hands down for me in stability and page loading. And it has only improved in 2.1! By the way, a new opera version is out today. I'm just about to install and try it out. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote: I just wish konquerer were faster. ron = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/
Re[2]: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused... Did you make any changes to molch recently? Didn't Pierre say that a recent install of SuSe made molch work fine? (Are there any worms out there that make ping fail like this?) So something in molch does indeed seem 'tweeked'. I agree with the query - anything change in/on molch since the last time tcp worked on it? And - another question here, while I've got the keyboard out and its hot ;-) - Pierre, when you installed SuSe on molch, was lapmolch connected? Was anything connected to the ethernet card when you did the install on molch? Also, boot either SuSe or LM, and diff -r the /etc directories, especially sysconfig (which probably does not exist on SuSe - never mind (sorry about that!)). rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W
[expert] Re: Mandrake 8.0B3
Installed the above after downloading via cable modem. Equipment Athlon 1200 Asus A7V MB 512 KB PC133 Ram ATI Radeon 32 DDR 2 Maxtor UDMA66 HD Plextor 16/10/40 CDRW Asus DVD Kingston NIC #Com Cable Modem USB Zip 250 Ensoniq Sound Install went perextly, recognized NIC and Cable Modem using DHCP. ATI Video with #D Accel worked perectly. The only things that don"t work with o tweaks are: No sound DVD commercial disc no-play. Kudo"s to Mandrake.
Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]
Rusty Carruth wrote: Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused... Did you make any changes to molch recently? From here on, s/Pierre/Wolfgang/ :^) I'm just trying to help too, Pierre Didn't Pierre say that a recent install of SuSe made molch work fine? (Are there any worms out there that make ping fail like this?) So something in molch does indeed seem 'tweeked'. I agree with the query - anything change in/on molch since the last time tcp worked on it? And - another question here, while I've got the keyboard out and its hot ;-) - Pierre, when you installed SuSe on molch, was lapmolch connected? Was anything connected to the ethernet card when you did the install on molch? Also, boot either SuSe or LM, and diff -r the /etc directories, especially sysconfig (which probably does not exist on SuSe - never mind (sorry about that!)). rc Rusty Carruth Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED] Voice: (480) 345-3621 SnailMail: Schlumberger ATE FAX: (480) 345-8793 7855 S. River Parkway, Suite 116 Ham: N7IKQ @ 146.82+,pl 162.2 Tempe, AZ 85284-1825 ICBM: 33 20' 44"N 111 53' 47"W -- Linux (Up 16 days) -- Reboots are for system upgrades... not Windows X^P Last reboot reason: 01/03/27: winter storm 6hr power outage
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
I use konqueror for most browsing but... Konqueror doesn't handle javascript as well as netscape does. There are some sites I frequent that require javascript work to make the website useful and konqueror just wont do it (my M$ outlook email interface at work is one such page that doesn't work well in konqueror). There are other sites that use flash and such that konqueror can't deal with even when the netscape flash plugin is available. For some sites, konqueror is not an option and only netscape can handle them. Don't know about Opera but then, I suppose it doesn't do netscape plugins which would rule it out for many sites. On Friday 06 April 2001 15:11, s wrote: I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape hands down for me in stability and page loading. And it has only improved in 2.1! By the way, a new opera version is out today. I'm just about to install and try it out. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote: I just wish konquerer were faster. ron -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't handle is the DRI website. What happens: First off, the page is misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the main page is OK). The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so as to be unreadable. If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page. So, I can either browse the documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages without any problems at all. Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1. I don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2. On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote: I guess I just need to work with it more. Maybe its the "blank" while loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable java. --- s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape hands down for me in stability and page loading. And it has only improved in 2.1! By the way, a new opera version is out today. I'm just about to install and try it out. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote: I just wish konquerer were faster. ron = ^C quit :q exit ? help shit __ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
H. Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often. I haven't had a problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine out? -s On Friday 06 April 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote: One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't handle is the DRI website. What happens: First off, the page is misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the main page is OK). The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so as to be unreadable. If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page. So, I can either browse the documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages without any problems at all. Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1. I don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2. On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote: I guess I just need to work with it more. Maybe its the "blank" while loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable java.
Re: [expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?
On Friday 06 April 2001 16:21, you wrote: On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:08 -0400 "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest version and installed it successfully. However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of drop-down choices in the graphic login. It used to be there. How do I add it back to the options? Jeff I am Presently using LM 7.2 with extras. Since LM 7.1 I have had this problem as well and have asked and seen asked dozens of times both on the XFCE and the Mandrake Lists a simple straight forward solution to the problem. Many and believe me MANY people have responded to this with a multitude of methods, few have voiced success though there has been the occasional victory. However for me personally nothing has EVER worked. Perhaps Mandrakesoft could work more closely with Oliver who lives and works in France? This is a fine WindowManager and should be treated as such. Some have even thought icewm was xfce because of Mandrakes paticular style of configuration. I always end up putting an .xinitrc file for each user who uses xfce into their home directory and going the startx route. Though AutoLogin as primary user works too. Sorry this doesnt answer your question but I have spent MANY hours following up on solutions from helpful and knowledgable individuals and with several years of Linux/Mandrake/XFCE use I still can't make it work right!!! Maybe you will be one of the Lucky Ones :) Actually, it's pretty easy to do. 1 - create a file in /etc/X11/wmsession.d - take a peek at the ones there for examples, but for xfce, make it look like this NAME=XFce ICON=xfce-wmsession.xpm EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce DESC=Lightweight desktop environment SCRIPT: exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce 2 - as root, run kcontrol, pick the login manager icon on the left, then the sessions tab on the right. Type XFCE into the session type box, then click the add new button. -- Alex Kernel Panic is General Failure's second in command
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Wolfgang, Do you mean you're using Netscape Navigator, like version 3.0x? On Mandrake 7.2? Did you have any trouble installing it? I did, and gave up (I'm a newbie), but if you've got it working, I'll look back and tell you the problem I had -- maybe you can tell me how to solve it. (It was a library problem.) Thanks, Randy Kramer Wolfgang Bornath wrote: 3. finally gave Communicator the kick in the a** and changed to Navigator. Combined with me changing to a *real* MUA (see header).
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page: http://dri.sourceforge.net For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link. Scroll down the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to XF86Config file section. There should be blocks of text in that section that are displayed all screwy. Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text that are screwed up. By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable. On MOST pages that this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead. There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL. Changing the user agent to fake being IE doesn't help. On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote: H. Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often. I haven't had a problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine out? -s On Friday 06 April 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote: One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't handle is the DRI website. What happens: First off, the page is misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the main page is OK). The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so as to be unreadable. If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page. So, I can either browse the documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages without any problems at all. Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1. I don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2. On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote: I guess I just need to work with it more. Maybe its the "blank" while loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable java. -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Oh man, I don't know how to tell you this, but mine looked good; just as I imagine the author intended. However, changing encoding did kick it back to home page. I'm using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 with 12 pt. comic sans. I wish I had a suggestion for you. Informative site tho, thanx, I've bookmarked it for future reference. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 07:47 pm, you wrote: Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page: http://dri.sourceforge.net For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link. Scroll down the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to XF86Config file section. There should be blocks of text in that section that are displayed all screwy. Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text that are screwed up. By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable. On MOST pages that this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead. There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL. Changing the user agent to fake being IE doesn't help. On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote: H. Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often. I haven't had a problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine out? -s
[expert] snag in pine
I have muy fetchmail working fine. I have porblems sending mail in pine. It says error 501. It says something about [EMAIL PROTECTED] being wrong. Help! Robert
RE: [expert]Thanks! (was anonymous ftp login)
Thanks Mark! I tried getting anonftp installed but it complained that it wanted wu-ftp installed also. I installed both of them but they complained about conflicts with proftpd; I uninstalled them again and took a look at proftpd and found out that I could get it do exactly what I wanted it to. I just had to add a couple of lines to my existing /etc/proftpd.conf file and viola! Thanks again for your help! I wouldn't have found out about proftpd if I hadn't installed the other two packages. Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Mark Weaver Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:26 AM To: Expert List Subject: Re: [expert] anonymous ftp login Hi Mike, The first thing you want to do is make sure you have the package anonftp installed on your system. rpm -qa | grep anonftp If you do you will get a response from your system that looks like this; anonftp-3.0-14mdk The next thing you will want to do is read and follow very carefully the instructions that I've sent along. this is what I used to configure and get going my anonymous ftp. If you have any troubles please feel free to email me. Mark Mike Tracy Holt wrote: Hello experts I sent this a couple of days ago, but I'm not sure if it went through. Could someone either explain the procedure for making /var/ftp/pub available to anonymous login or possibly point me to a howto? Thanks in advance, Mike
Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up
Actually, now that I think about it, the problem may well lie with the fact that I have font antialiasing enabled with qt-2.3.0 in KDE. It works well for most things but some fonts are totally screwed. As for the DRI site...the package is NICE. I have an ATI Radeon 32 DDR video card that I just installed with DRI in mind. Now that I have hardware OpenGL 3d acceleration enabled, graphics and games go VERY well. Running the Mesa toy app "gears" from an xterm gives me an average framerate of 880. With nothing else running, I have seen 1000 FPS. Fullscreen I get 160 fps. Before, without hardware accel, I would get around 100 fps in default screen size and only about 23 fps fullscreen. The games Heretic2 and Terminus look and run great. DRI was well worth the minor effort it took to download and build (also had to rebuild my kernel to make it all play together). If you have a decent video card with 3d accel capability other than an Nvidia, I highly recommend the DRI code. On Friday 06 April 2001 20:59, s wrote: Oh man, I don't know how to tell you this, but mine looked good; just as I imagine the author intended. However, changing encoding did kick it back to home page. I'm using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 with 12 pt. comic sans. I wish I had a suggestion for you. Informative site tho, thanx, I've bookmarked it for future reference. -s On Friday 06 April 2001 07:47 pm, you wrote: Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page: http://dri.sourceforge.net For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link. Scroll down the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to XF86Config file section. There should be blocks of text in that section that are displayed all screwy. Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text that are screwed up. By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable. On MOST pages that this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead. There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL. Changing the user agent to fake being IE doesn't help. On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote: H. Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often. I haven't had a problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine out? -s -- Against stupidity, the gods themselves contend in vain.
[Fwd: [expert] Netscape Locking Up]
Dear Stephen: You can save your draft letter at any stage (and repeatedly) by clicking on: File, Save as, Draft You can also save any message received with: File, Save As, File Give it a name: report.txt and then in xterm copy it to a safe place. Benjamin "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote: Benjamin Sher wrote: Dear Craig: I can write a letter in Netscape for two hours with the security that it won't be wiped out by a crash. Still, just to be sure, I save it as a draft every few paragraphs. Hmmm, how are you writing paragraphs and saving them in Netscape? -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614 -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] Mozilla .8 -- Manually changing fonts
Dear Larry: Thanks a million. Will take a look. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] Texttar LM72 rpm goldmine
Dear friends: Thanks to Peter Schram, I discovered a real goldmine for LM72 rpms. Here is the address: http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org/ You will find here the latest Mozilla 0.8.1, the latest galeon (and all required dependencies -- one of which, the libdst++ .so.3 or something like that included in GConf), the latest Gnome 1.4 (including Nautilus), etc. etc. Be sure to bookmark the site. A real goldmine. Once again, my thanks to Peter Schram. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[expert] Mozilla 0.8 LM72 rpm (March 26) at Textar -- Correction
Dear friends: Just for the record: The Mozilla 0.8.1 LM72 rpm available at Texttar's LM72 site is still the old Feb 17, 2001 version. However, I expect soon to see the latest 0.8.1 LM72 rpm available on their site. URL: http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org/ I do not believe that you can use the Cooker version because of the incompatible versions of the rpm file (version 3 vs. version 4) in LM72 vs LM8. Benjamin -- Sher's Russian Web http://www.websher.net Benjamin and Anna Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [expert] PHP Memory Error
It could generate 8MB though... I use a wwwproxy script written in perl for example which reads files from a box behind our NAT firewall and shows them to the outside world. What the script does is: it reads the entire file, then outputs it to stdout. Can you imagine how much memory it would need for an iso image? Maybe your script does something similar: create huge amounts of data for displaying on the browser, or for internal hell-do-I-know? The script itself doesn't need to be big; it's the data it generates that's the problem. On 2001.04.04 17:41 Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote: Hey all, I have been getting this error on my new 7.2 web server when accessing some pages: Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 52740 bytes) in /usr/home/www/phpnuke/header.php on line 231 Any ideas? I don't see how this script could be 8MB's in size! -- Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis (530)-752-4614 !doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en" html Hey all, I have been getting this error on my new 7.2 web server when accessing some pages: brnbsp; pFatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 52740 bytes) in /usr/home/www/phpnuke/header.php on line 231 brnbsp; pAny ideas? I don't see how this script could be 8MB's in size! brnbsp; pre--nbsp; Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] California Animal Health amp; Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davisnbsp; (530)-752-4614/pre nbsp;/html -- Rial Juanhttp://nighty.ulyssis.org e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ:20135549 Belgiumtel:++3289856533 cellular: ++32496737018 ulyssis system admininstrator http://www.ulyssis.org 1010011010 : Binary of the Beast