Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen

2001-04-06 Thread Darek KUZARA

"Jose M. Sanchez" wrote:

 Interrupt the Aurora boot and get to the console.
 Log in or enter the root password, depending on how you got there.
 Then UNINSTALL Aurora.


I do not think this is the Aurora problem. I booted also without using Aurora at
all and the problem persists. I managed however to get Gnome running at one of
the times I rebooted Mandrake. That was after I disabled X start-up at boot (I
booted from CD in rescue mode and edited file responsible for it, commenting out
the lines). However after trying to configure screen saver everything blew up
again. 


mike ryder wrote:
 Use the rescue CD to boot the system and then change /etc/inittab so that
 the initdefault is 3 not 5. This will force the system to boot without the
 X-windows stuff.

This I managed to do in different way, (see above)

 Now reboot the server and you should come up with a console login.

When I do just startx - black screen (I can here my monitor changing its mode). 
One could suspected wrongly defined monitor. However when I do 

xinit -- kde | gnome  // or
startx -- kde | gnome 

I get the following error message:
Connection refuse errno (111) unable to connect X server
No such process   errno (3)  :Server error

 I had this problem when upgrading from MDK 7.1 to MDK 7.2 and it was caused
 by a setting in the X config files that stopped the X server from loading
 correctly and chewed up all of the resources. Problem - I forgot what the
 problem was !! ;-)


While screen is black, it seems like X server or whatever process is really
chewed up all of the resources. The machine does not react on any keyboard
action (event Caps Lock does not work).

I reinstalled MAndrake again and surprisingly the same effect. CAn it be a bug
in Xfree 3.6.X ? Previously I used Xfree 4.X. By the way I have Matrox MGA G200
with 4 MB VRAM.


Any help still appreciated. I am tempted to install Red Hat again. 


Declan Moriarty wrote:
 Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system 
 thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line is
 
 startx xerrors 21.

That might be a solution. Cheers.

 There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some obscure 
 file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system sees

I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to get some
sleep before another working day.


Any help still appreciated.
Thanks for the suggestions already sent.

Darek




Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen

2001-04-06 Thread mike ryder

Hello Darek,

I would suspect the screen resolution that is being applied in the autoboot
(init 5) which your matrox card handles badly. I recall now that I had to
use Xconfigurator to get the screen resolution dwon to something pretty
basic (800x600) and then it would boot. The fact that startx won't work
would seem to indicate this.

hth
Mike

- Original Message -
From: "Darek KUZARA" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, April 06, 2001 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen


 "Jose M. Sanchez" wrote:

  Interrupt the Aurora boot and get to the console.
  Log in or enter the root password, depending on how you got there.
  Then UNINSTALL Aurora.


 I do not think this is the Aurora problem. I booted also without using
Aurora at
 all and the problem persists. I managed however to get Gnome running at
one of
 the times I rebooted Mandrake. That was after I disabled X start-up at
boot (I
 booted from CD in rescue mode and edited file responsible for it,
commenting out
 the lines). However after trying to configure screen saver everything blew
up
 again.


 mike ryder wrote:
  Use the rescue CD to boot the system and then change /etc/inittab so
that
  the initdefault is 3 not 5. This will force the system to boot without
the
  X-windows stuff.

 This I managed to do in different way, (see above)

  Now reboot the server and you should come up with a console login.

 When I do just startx - black screen (I can here my monitor changing its
mode).
 One could suspected wrongly defined monitor. However when I do

 xinit -- kde | gnome  // or
 startx -- kde | gnome

 I get the following error message:
 Connection refuse errno (111) unable to connect X server
 No such process   errno (3)  :Server error

  I had this problem when upgrading from MDK 7.1 to MDK 7.2 and it was
caused
  by a setting in the X config files that stopped the X server from
loading
  correctly and chewed up all of the resources. Problem - I forgot what
the
  problem was !! ;-)


 While screen is black, it seems like X server or whatever process is
really
 chewed up all of the resources. The machine does not react on any keyboard
 action (event Caps Lock does not work).

 I reinstalled MAndrake again and surprisingly the same effect. CAn it be a
bug
 in Xfree 3.6.X ? Previously I used Xfree 4.X. By the way I have Matrox MGA
G200
 with 4 MB VRAM.


 Any help still appreciated. I am tempted to install Red Hat again.


 Declan Moriarty wrote:
  Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system
  thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line
is
 
  startx xerrors 21.

 That might be a solution. Cheers.

  There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some
obscure
  file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system
sees

 I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to
get some
 sleep before another working day.


 Any help still appreciated.
 Thanks for the suggestions already sent.

 Darek







[expert] Relinking in Galeon/Mozilla -- how?

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

After experimenting with the failed dependencies of Galeon 10.2 and
Mozilla 0.8.1. for Mandrake, I have finally settled on 
galeon-0.8.1-rh6_2, which is a) a i386 file, NOT a i586 file, b) is a
Red Hat i386 file and c) most strangely, is to be found in
Mandrake-devel/unsupported/7.2/i586 (!). A Red Hat 386 file right in the
middle of nothing but i586 Mandrake files.

Note: This version of Galeon (0.8.1) is dated March 1 and is based on
Mozilla 0.8 (dated Feb 17, 2001), not on the latest Mozilla 0.8.1 (dated
March 26, 2001). That's fine. By the way, I did not find a src.rpm file
under SRPMS in the corresponding directory.

Well, that doesn't bother me, folks. Just mentioning this as background
for my problem. 

PROBLEM:

I installed Mozilla 0.8 (a 586 file, which I rebuilt from the RH 6.2
source rpm). No problem. I then installed Galeon 8.1 (a Galeon version
compatible with
Mozilla 0.8). The installation went very well. All plugins and bookmarks
were transferred automatically. However, during the install, Galeon
issued the following error message. It looks pretty harmless, but I
don't really know how to carry out the instructions. Meanwhile, Galeon
keeps crashing when I try to surf. Is the crashing related to the error
message below?

[sher@sher07 sher]$ galeon
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: Symbol `__vt_28nsCreateInstanceByContractID' has
different size in shared object, consider re-linking
/usr/bin/galeon-bin: Symbol `__vt_16nsQueryInterface' has different size
in shared object, consider re-linking


Thanks so much. I like Galeon, but if it keeps crashing, I'll never get
a chance to find out what it can or can't do. Hope to hear from a Galeon
fan.

Benjamin
-- 
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[expert] Installing 586 over 386?

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

A quick question:

If you are installing a i586 file over an i386 file (all things being
otherwise identical, including distro, etc.) should you first uninstall
the i386 and then install the i586 or is this automatically taken care
of by the --Uhv option, just as it when installing higher versions of
programs on top of each other (e.g. Mozilla .8 over Mozilla .7)? Are we
talking about the same UNINSTALL/INSTALL process in -Uvh or are we
talking about apples and oranges?

Thank you so much.

Benjamin
-- 
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




[expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop

2001-04-06 Thread Simon Millward

Having a few problems installing 7.2 on new laptop.
Basically the installation hangs at the start while configuring PCMCIA.

I believe its possible to disable PCMCIA installation, and thus perform it
later when the system is installed.

Can someone tell me how to specify this at the start of installation?

Thanks
Simon





[expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine

2001-04-06 Thread george . jones

This may or may not be the right mailing list, so pardon me if it's not.

I'm running LM7.2 on a laptop that's on our network. I'd like to try to
create the equivalent of this batch file that launches one of our
applications.

rem TPM v5.0.2  NASD 9/21/99 edit by logic7 - 3/9/01
set SAI_ROOT=\\usscifappsrv01\sai502\
set PATH=%SAI_ROOT%winase32;%PATH%;
set 
SAIPATH=%SAI_ROOT%ea;%SAI_ROOT%efm;%SAI_ROOT%ee;%SAI_ROOT%evgate;%SAI_ROOT%eserver;%
SAI_ROOT%esmicons
%SAI_ROOT%winase32\kml ea -H:usms1chd10 -B:usms1chd11

The problem is that this is a win32 app. We have a Java based version that launches 
from a browser, but I chan't get it to
function properly, if at all. I can view the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ in Gnomba 
and browse it's contents, how would I
get to launch this thing, though, with wine?





Re: [expert] Installing 586 over 386?

2001-04-06 Thread Tom Brinkman

On Friday 06 April 2001 03:54 am, Benjamin Sher wrote:

 If you are installing a i586 file over an i386 file (all things being
 otherwise identical, including distro, etc.) should you first uninstall
 the i386 and then install the i586 or is this automatically taken care
 of by the --Uhv option, 

'-Uvh' will upgrade prior versions of an rpm, no matter what the 
optimization (eg, i386).  for example:

I just d/l'd a cooker 'mkbootdisk' src rpm and rebuilt it on 7.2, which 
created  'mkbootdisk-1.2.8-3mdk.i686.rpm'.  I then 'rpm -Uvh'd this i686 
rpm to upgrade 7.2's default i586 'mkbootdisk-1.2.7' rpm.

   Works the other direction too, I've used i386 rpms to upgrade i586'rs.
'-Uvh --force' can be used to 'upgrade' the same version rpm, or to 
downgrade to a prior version, again optimization makes no difference. No 
need to uninstall the existing rpm in any case.
-- 
Dale Earnhardt,  the greatest stock car driver ever, 
 he's won his 8th and  His Greatest Championship
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Re: [expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine

2001-04-06 Thread george . jones

one other note: I've just got the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\ mounted in
/mnt/sai502





George Jones/US/ABNAMRO/NL@[EMAIL PROTECTED] on 04/06/2001
10:09:56 AM

Please respond to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Sent by:  [EMAIL PROTECTED]


To:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
cc:
Subject:  [expert] win/dos batch file conversion to work with linux/wine


This may or may not be the right mailing list, so pardon me if it's not.

I'm running LM7.2 on a laptop that's on our network. I'd like to try to
create the equivalent of this batch file that launches one of our
applications.

rem TPM v5.0.2  NASD 9/21/99 edit by logic7 - 3/9/01
set SAI_ROOT=\\usscifappsrv01\sai502\
set PATH=%SAI_ROOT%winase32;%PATH%;
set SAIPATH
=%SAI_ROOT%ea;%SAI_ROOT%efm;%SAI_ROOT%ee;%SAI_ROOT%evgate;%SAI_ROOT%eserver;%

SAI_ROOT%esmicons
%SAI_ROOT%winase32\kml ea -H:usms1chd10 -B:usms1chd11

The problem is that this is a win32 app. We have a Java based version that
launches from a browser, but I chan't get it to
function properly, if at all. I can view the share \\usscifappsrv01\sai502\
in Gnomba and browse it's contents, how would I
get to launch this thing, though, with wine?









[expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?

2001-04-06 Thread Jeff Malka

I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest
version and installed it successfully.

However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of
drop-down choices in the graphic login.  It used to be there.  How do I add
it back to the options?

Thanks.


Jeff Malka [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Registered Linux user  183185






Re: [expert] Installing 586 over 386?

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Tom:

Thanks so very much for the clarification. And thanks a million for the
instructions on installing RealPlayer8 with plugins and mimetypes.
That's what I did -- thanks to you. The other option, that of adding the
plugins and mimetypes MANUALLY, did not please me at all. So, your
solution was powerful, simple and on target. Thanks again.

Benjamin
-- 
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Craig:

May I suggest one thing that may or may not solve your problem. I had
the same problem with Netscape. It crashe every ten minutes. Finally,
after consulting with a computer friend, I decided to switch from a PS/2
mouse to a serial mouse. Real easy to do. Bingo, all problems with
Netscape disappeared. Or almost all problems. Now, it is pretty rare for
Netscape to actually crash. I can write a letter in Netscape for two
hours with the security that it won't be wiped out by a crash. Still,
just to be sure, I save it as a draft every few paragraphs.

Try it (or try a USB mouse). 

The problem in my case was an IRQ conflict that was causing instability
everywhere, not just in Netscape. And suddenly, KDE was stable as a
rock, and even Netscape behaved.

Benjamin
-- 
Sher's Russian Web
http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
[EMAIL PROTECTED]




Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Stephen Lawrence Jr.


Ya, with the 7.2 dist, Konqueror does not load java pages properly. Plus,
I use the Netscape SSLIMAP functions to check email and have been
unable to find another email client that supports multiple SSLIMAPaccounts.
:(

Craig Sprout wrote:
"Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote:
>
> Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
> up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the
time.
You mean besides every stinking day?
Disabling Java and Javascript go quite a ways towards making it behave
nicely, but other than that I don't really have any suggestions for
you.
I've noticed that sometimes, just loading a heavy page (500+ Kb) can
bring the foul lizard to its knees.
I'm going to put 8.0b3 on this box over the weekend, and play around
a
little more with Konqueror. From the little bit of dabbling I've
done,
I am impressed. I'll have to see how it does under a heavy load.
--
Craig Sprout
Network Administrator
Crown Parts and Machine
http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com

--
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]
California Animal Health  Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis
(530)-752-4614



Re: [expert]

2001-04-06 Thread Declan Moriarty


You have 2  problems, and I'm going to solve the small one. The mouse
cursor as a block is because X defaults your card to a h/w cursor. You need a
line like

option=sw_cursor

DON'T TRUST THE SYNTAX! Something like that. It never caused me a crash though.

On Thu, 05 Apr 2001, Sean Coyne wrote:
 
 does anyone know why harddrake would crash whenever i run it??  i have a
 PIII 800 with voodoo 5 5500 AGP 64 mb card.  i believe that the card is the
 reason, b/c the problem didnt occur when i had a different card with the
 system, however, after every fresh install, i have this problem.  the screen
 turns black and i can see a block shaped curser.  i am able to kill x with a
 ctrl alt F2 combination, but then i have to reboot to be able to restart x.


-- 
Regards,


Declan Moriarty




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A Slightly Serious(TM) Company

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Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen

2001-04-06 Thread Declan Moriarty

Try the syntax I gave you, which I in turn was given some time back. The output
is more comprehensive. If it's not very current, you can be sure the cpu
resources are getting hogged by something. The other one to check is the
xinitrc file. That at least is in the obvious place - NOT!

/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/xinit/

-- 
Regards,


Declan Moriarty

 Declan Moriarty wrote:
  Have you tried piping the output from X to a file to see what the system 
  thinks it's doing? If you're starting X from a console, I think the line is
  
  startx xerrors 21.
 
 That might be a solution. Cheers.
 
  There's a standard output hidden (like everything in Unix) in some obscure 
  file anyhow. It would be interesting to know what problem the system sees
 
 I started to look for one, but at 3 o'clock in the morning I decided to get some
 sleep before another working day.
 
 
 Any help still appreciated.
 Thanks for the suggestions already sent.
 
 Darek







Re[2]: [expert] GUI startup - black screen

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Declan Moriarty [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Try the syntax I gave you, which I in turn was given some time back. The output
 is more comprehensive. 

And almost always the actual problem is WAY back in the output stream,
long gone from your display before you have a chance to see it.

So please get that output and send the entire thing (yes, I mean it! ;-)
If you REALLY think its too big for the list, send a copy to me and
(I'm assuming here that its ok with Declan) to Declan and then WE
can decide to send it to the list ;-)

That command you want is:

startx  xerrors 21

which will save ALL the output from the startx command in the file xerrors
in the current directory.  Email us that file...  Please.

rc


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Re[2]: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote:
  
  Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
  up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time.
 
 If it's not a Java issue, it's likely the NS' inability to handle communications
 problems like:
 - DNS failures, delays, etc
 - [news|pop|???] server stops|not responding
 - lost packets
 - etc.

Oh, yeah, those can make netscape look like its locked up also.  USUALLY
it will recover if I'm patient.  Its the 100% cpu load problems that
never go away by themselves.

Yeah, I suppose we really DO need a good browser, don't we!

rc


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Re: [expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Courtesy copy sent via bcc.

"Simon Millward" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Having a few problems installing 7.2 on new laptop.
 Basically the installation hangs at the start while configuring PCMCIA.

I had something similar (thought it was with 7.1 though, hmm).  Anyway,
it MAY work for you to do what I did - click on the next green star over
there on the left side - the next step of installation.  For me, what
this did was go to the next step, complete that step, then go back to
the 'failed' step.

So, I just clicked on the NEXT green star, did that step, and so forth
until it was all done.

All this is from fuzzy memory from around January or so, YMMV!

 I believe its possible to disable PCMCIA installation, and thus perform it
 later when the system is installed.

I'm not sure - does 'expert' give you this level of control?
Anyone else know the real answer to Simon's question?

rc


PS!  HOORAY!  No more bounced messages from v3ps!!!  Thanks for the
one who u*n*s*u*b*s*c*r*i*b*e*d them!


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Re[2]: [expert] PCMCIA probes installing on laptop

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Rusty Carruth [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
blah blah blah

So, right after I send this, Simon sent his successful
summary.

Um, sorry!  Never mind! 

rc


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RE: [expert] GUI startup - black screen

2001-04-06 Thread Dennis Davis

sounds like x resolution is set too high,try a lower resolution and your
monitor won't blank.

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Dave Sherman
Sent: Thursday, April 05, 2001 7:24 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [expert] GUI startup - black screen


How long did you watch the black screen? I have seen as long as a
two-minute wait while some networking problem "times out", before X
launches and I get a login prompt. At the time of the problem, other apps
also took a long time to launch. I had to go through and clean up my
networking settings, which took care of the problem.

Dave

On Thursday 05 April 2001 03:08, Darek KUZARA said:
 Hello All,

 Recently I have re-installed Linux Mandrake 7.2 with an option to
 start-up GUI after boot. I have defined Gnome as WM and screen
 resolution 1280x1024 with 16 bit colours (vga mode for lilo 794).
 However the installation type was "user" (not expert which I used to use
 before) and therefore my default boot manager is Grub. During the
 process of the Mandrake installation I tested the X and it was fine.
 However when I boot, Aurora boot works fine till it starts to launch WM,
 screen becomes black. I cannot not switch to text console either. The
 only remedy at this point is hardware reboot which file system (ext2)
 dos not like very much ;-).
 I booted my Mandrake from an installation CD in recovery mode in order
 to view some X files or Grub files but apparently I did not find
 anything to change.

 Any help appreciated.

 Regards,

 Darek





Re: [expert] Mozilla .8 -- Manually changing fonts

2001-04-06 Thread Larry Sword

Benjamin Sher wrote:

 Dear friends:

 I went ahead last night and downloaded the older Feb. 17, 2001 Red Hat
 6.2 version of Mozilla from:

 http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla/releases/mozilla0.8/RH6/

 I wanted a 586 version of Mozilla and Red Hat 6.2 had only a 386
 version. Meanwhile, the Mandrake 586 version available on Cooker is
 inaccessible to us LM72 folks because the rpm that is used in LM 8.0 is
 incompatible with the rpm used in LM72.

Benjamin;

No reason to change hats! You can find the latest for us LM72 users

in the Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq section of your closest mirror.

I downloaded the Mandrakefreq.iso and used the LiveUpdate to bring my

system up to the latest programs.

I get my updates here:

ftp://rufus.w3.org/linux/Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq/i585

ftp://fufus.w3.org/linux/Mandrake-devel/Mandrakefreq/SRPMS

Best Regards

Larry

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Lyric


Oddly enough, I had the opposite problem

As soon as I put 8.0 on,  I could no longer access the internet through my
lan.

I tried running Mandrake 8.0b2 on one computer, while I left my good Linux
computer running 7.2 (which it is running flawlessly right now).  8.0 can
see and ping all the other computers on my lan, and it can ping through to
my ISP if you specify the ISP's actualy IP address, but I can't access any
webpages by the domain names.

This has been baffling me for quite some time, and I have thus far
attributed it to mandrake being beta,  I'll be trying out beta 3 later
this evening, but I'd like to knwo if anyone else has any information
regarding this.

I'm running a Windows NT4 server as a fileserver/proxy through a cable
modem to the internet.  Everythign works fine on Windows, and in Mandrake
7.2 on the same machine, but as soon as I try mandrake 8.0beta1 or beta2,
I get nothing on the internet.

Thanks

 
  Ya, with the 7.2 dist, Konqueror does not load java pages properly.
  Plus, I use the Netscape SSL IMAP functions to check email and have
  been unable to find another email client that supports multiple
  SSL IMAP accounts. :(

 I feel your pain, there.  I had hopes for KMail, but it doesn't look
 like it's going to happen this time around.

 The 7.2 distro was bad for me all around.  I went back to 7.1 almost
 immediately. It was weird -- after I put 7.2 on, I couldn't get my cable
 modem to work.  I tried everything, and got nothing.  I beat my head
 against the wall, recompiled older versions of programs, everything you
 can think of.  Got nothing.

 I put 8.0b3 on that box, and up everything came, and away we went, cable
 modem and all.  I'm still scratching my head on that one.

 --
 Craig Sprout
 Network Administrator
 Crown Parts and Machine
 http://www.crownpartsandmachine.com







Re[2]: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Lyric [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 Oddly enough, I had the opposite problem
 
 As soon as I put 8.0 on,  I could no longer access the internet through my
 lan.
 
 I tried running Mandrake 8.0b2 on one computer, while I left my good Linux
 computer running 7.2 (which it is running flawlessly right now).  8.0 can
 see and ping all the other computers on my lan, and it can ping through to
 my ISP if you specify the ISP's actualy IP address, but I can't access any
 webpages by the domain names.

What is the contents of /etc/resolv.conf on each machine?

copy the working one over to the broken one, then let us know
if things work better. (You will probably have to reload
any currently running programs for them to notice)

(Save a backup of the original just in case ;-)

rc


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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Most assuredly yes.  About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and 
I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again.

On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote:
 Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
 up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time.

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Ron Heron

I know it's not a fix, but instead of kill -9 from a cli, try
ctrl-alt-esc, and left mouse click on the dead netscape.  This works for
me.  Sad when we can only compare the best ways to kill netscape.  I am
disappointed.  I just wish konquerer were faster.

ron
--- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Most assuredly yes.  About half the time I start the bastard up, it
 locks and 
 I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again.
 
 On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote:
  Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
  up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the
 time.
 
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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread John Wolford

Ok, Ok, i'll put in my $4.00/300*(3/2)It's almost (i said ALMOST) funny 
reading this
thread. When i first installed 7.1 i noticed the same problem w/ Netscrape. After a 
short while it
"went away". Then when i did a re-install the problem came back again, only to go away 
again after
an even shorter time. Somewhere in the middle of a dozen or so subsequent re-installs 
(trying to
get the stupid thing to install accross various drives w/ different partitions) i 
recognized the
pattern: Nutscrape, as someone called it, started working better as soon as i 
recompiled the
kernel. NOW IT STILL HAPPENS MIND YOU, but not _nearly_ as often as it used to. I also 
got around
to upgrading to the latest 4.xx version w/ 128bit encryption etc and still no 
complaints. If i
really wanted i might build src rpm and try installing it (yes i have no idea what the 
problem
is).

But the biggest difference seemed to come when i would recompile the kernel.

Go figure.
j



--- Praedor Tempus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Most assuredly yes.  About half the time I start the bastard up, it locks and 
 I have to do the kill -9 thing and try again.
 
 On Friday 06 April 2001 09:20, Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote:
  Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
  up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time.
 
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Re: [expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?

2001-04-06 Thread William Bouterse

On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:08 -0400
"Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest
 version and installed it successfully.
 
 However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of
 drop-down choices in the graphic login.  It used to be there.  How do I add
 it back to the options?


Jeff

I am Presently using LM 7.2 with extras.
Since LM 7.1 I have had this problem as well and have asked and 
seen asked dozens of times both on the XFCE and the Mandrake Lists
a simple straight forward solution to the problem. Many and believe me
MANY people have responded to this with a multitude of methods, few
have voiced success though there has been the occasional victory.
However for me personally nothing has EVER worked. Perhaps Mandrakesoft
could work more closely with Oliver who lives and works in France? 
This is a fine WindowManager and should be treated as such. Some have even thought
icewm was xfce because of Mandrakes paticular style of configuration.

I always end up putting an .xinitrc file for each user who uses xfce into
their home directory and going the startx route. Though AutoLogin as primary 
user works too. Sorry this doesnt answer your question but I have spent MANY hours
following up on solutions from helpful and knowledgable individuals and with 
several years of Linux/Mandrake/XFCE use I still can't make it work right!!!
Maybe you will be one of the Lucky Ones :)  

Good Luck

William Bouterse
Talkeetna, Ak
 




Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread s

I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape 
hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only improved in 
2.1!  
By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install and 
try it out.
-s

On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
 I just wish konquerer were faster.

 ron





Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:31 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
 [Going back to your ealier posting, you had a UH entry overlapping the subnet;
 have you tried deleting it?  I'm not sure why a host route would even be there
 when a net route exists...]

Err... How do I delete that? Sorry, concerning net I'm a newbie.
 
 I forgot the default output of tcpdump was terse...  Can you give the output of
 "tcpdump -ex"?

1. lapmolch is pinging molch:
[root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex
tcpdump: listening on eth0
10:32:06.173354 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b Broadcast arp 60: arp who-has
molch.wolf-b.de tell lapmolch.wolf-b.de
 0001 0800 0604 0001 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8
 6402    c0a8 6403  
       
10:32:06.173432 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b arp 42: arp reply
molch.wolf-b.de is-at 0:50:ba:31:f:b2
 0001 0800 0604 0002 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
 6403 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402
10:32:06.173906 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 ip 98:
lapmolch.wolf-b.de  molch.wolf-b.de: icmp: echo request
 4500 0054   4001 3153 c0a8 6402
 c0a8 6403 0800 291a 6c00  827f cd3a
 2828  0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213
 1415 1617 1819
10:32:06.173996 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
 6403    c0a8 6401
[.]

2. molch is pinging lapmolch:
[root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex
tcpdump: listening on eth0
10:37:02.071155 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
 6403    c0a8 6401
10:37:03.065233 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
 6403    c0a8 6401
10:37:04.065234 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
 0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
 6403    c0a8 6401
[]

Looks like molch doesn't know who molch is?

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Re: [expert] v3ps@mail.ru has been un*sub*scribed.

2001-04-06 Thread David Rankin

Pierre Fortin wrote:

 David Rankin wrote:
 
  Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
   Not a nice thing to do; but after so many complaints, and seeing the problem for
   myself, I un*sub*scribed [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   HTH,
   Pierre
 
  Many thanks!

 DAMN!!  It didn't work...  anyone have any objections to un*sub'ing
 **[EMAIL PROTECTED]** which, upon closer inspection, is probably the listed
 recipient...?

 Pierre

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 12:20 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 "Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote:
  
  Is anyone else having problems with Netscape Communicator 4.76 locking
  up and taking %99 CPU time? I have to do a 'kill -9' on it all the time.
 
 If it's not a Java issue, it's likely the NS' inability to handle communications
 problems like:
 - DNS failures, delays, etc
 - [news|pop|???] server stops|not responding
 - lost packets
 - etc.
 
 Really hoping for a new browser real soon now...

That's what all of us do...

But in the meantime:
I used to have that Netscape Communicator beast on my box wolfing
down all my 256M of memory. So I did 3 things:

1. changed busmouse to serial mouse
2. disabled javascript and java on Netscape
3. finally gave Communicator the kick in the a** and changed to
Navigator. Combined with me changing to a *real* MUA (see header).

This solved all my probs with netscape. I even do my banking with it
(having 128bit encryption). Sometimes Nescape is on for weeks and
doesn't crash or eat memory.
 
wobo
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[expert] Notebook install via ftp [3. edition]

2001-04-06 Thread Wolfgang Bornath

I'm still not able to get a ping through from my notebook with
TinyLinux (Kernel 2.2.6) to my desktop (MDK 7.2).
But today I found a SuSE 7.0 evaluation CD in my mail and installed it
on a spare harddisk in my desktop. Network configuration was a 2
minutes job and  drumroll  the desktop can ping the notebook
and vice versa. Telnet and ftp work without any prob.
I checked both systems (Mandrake and SuSE) and in both systems I made
the same entries (IPs and names). There it works, here it doesn't. 
?

This leaves me with one option: Mandrake must use a
different handling of networking. But how does that help me?
I don't like SuSE that much. So I just installed it out of curiosity
but don't want to keep it.

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Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-06 Thread Pierre Fortin

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 
 On Fri, Apr 06, 2001 at 01:31 -0400, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 
  [Going back to your ealier posting, you had a UH entry overlapping the subnet;
  have you tried deleting it?  I'm not sure why a host route would even be there
  when a net route exists...]
 
 Err... How do I delete that? Sorry, concerning net I'm a newbie.

route del 192.168.100.X   (X matches what is in route table)

  I forgot the default output of tcpdump was terse...  Can you give the output of
  "tcpdump -ex"?
 
 1. lapmolch is pinging molch:
 [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex
 tcpdump: listening on eth0

lapmolch(.2) ARPing for molch(.3):
 10:32:06.173354 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b Broadcast arp 60: arp who-has
 molch.wolf-b.de tell lapmolch.wolf-b.de
  0001 0800 0604 0001 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8
  6402    c0a8 6403  
        
Since tcpdump is seeing this packet, molch does see lapmolch's ARP,
and replies here:
 10:32:06.173432 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b arp 42: arp reply
 molch.wolf-b.de is-at 0:50:ba:31:f:b2
  0001 0800 0604 0002 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
  6403 00a0 0c14 8b6b c0a8 6402
which lapmolch sees allowing it to ping, which molch sees (it's running
tcpdump):
 10:32:06.173906 0:a0:c:14:8b:6b 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 ip 98:
 lapmolch.wolf-b.de  molch.wolf-b.de: icmp: echo request
  4500 0054   4001 3153 c0a8 6402
  c0a8 6403 0800 291a 6c00  827f cd3a
  2828  0809 0a0b 0c0d 0e0f 1011 1213
  1415 1617 1819
then, for some reason molch tries to ARP itself rather than send a ping reply:
 10:32:06.173996 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
 molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
  0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
  6403    c0a8 6401

So molch appears to have a problem above.  

Let's look at the other now...
 [.]
 
 2. molch is pinging lapmolch:
 [root@molch wobo]# tcpdump -ex
 tcpdump: listening on eth0

molch is ARPing for itself
 10:37:02.071155 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
 molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
  0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
  6403    c0a8 6401
gets no reply, tries again:
 10:37:03.065233 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
 molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
  0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
  6403    c0a8 6401
and again:
 10:37:04.065234 0:50:ba:31:f:b2 Broadcast arp 42: arp who-has
 molch.wolf-b.de tell molch.wolf-b.de
  0001 0800 0604 0001 0050 ba31 0fb2 c0a8
  6403    c0a8 6401
 []
 
 Looks like molch doesn't know who molch is?

Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused...

Did you make any changes to molch recently?  

Pierre

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Ron Heron

I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded.  Then
again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable
java.
--- s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat
 netscape 
 hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only
 improved in 
 2.1!  
 By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install
 and 
 try it out.
 -s
 
 On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
  I just wish konquerer were faster.
 
  ron
 
 


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Re[2]: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-06 Thread Rusty Carruth

Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 ...
 
 Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused...
 
 Did you make any changes to molch recently?  

Didn't Pierre say that a recent install of SuSe made molch
work fine?

(Are there any worms out there that make ping fail like this?)

So something in molch does indeed seem 'tweeked'.  I agree
with the query - anything change in/on molch since the last
time tcp worked on it?

And - another question here, while I've got the keyboard out and
its hot ;-) - Pierre, when you installed SuSe on molch, was 
lapmolch connected?  Was anything connected to the ethernet
card when you did the install on molch?

Also, boot either SuSe or LM, and diff -r the /etc directories,
especially sysconfig (which probably does not exist on SuSe -
never mind  (sorry about that!)).

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[expert] Re: Mandrake 8.0B3

2001-04-06 Thread James W . McComas

Installed the above after downloading via cable modem.
Equipment
Athlon 1200
Asus A7V MB
512 KB PC133 Ram
ATI Radeon 32 DDR
2 Maxtor UDMA66 HD
Plextor 16/10/40 CDRW
Asus DVD
Kingston NIC
#Com Cable Modem
USB Zip 250
Ensoniq Sound

Install went perextly, recognized NIC and Cable Modem using DHCP.
ATI Video with #D Accel worked perectly.
The only things that don"t work with o tweaks are:
No sound
DVD commercial disc no-play.

Kudo"s to Mandrake.





Re: [expert] Notebook install via ftp [2. edition]

2001-04-06 Thread Pierre Fortin

Rusty Carruth wrote:
 
 Pierre Fortin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  ...
 
  Looks like lapmolch is probably OK; but molch is confused...
 
  Did you make any changes to molch recently?

From here on, s/Pierre/Wolfgang/  :^)

I'm just trying to help too,
Pierre

 Didn't Pierre say that a recent install of SuSe made molch
 work fine?
 
 (Are there any worms out there that make ping fail like this?)
 
 So something in molch does indeed seem 'tweeked'.  I agree
 with the query - anything change in/on molch since the last
 time tcp worked on it?
 
 And - another question here, while I've got the keyboard out and
 its hot ;-) - Pierre, when you installed SuSe on molch, was
 lapmolch connected?  Was anything connected to the ethernet
 card when you did the install on molch?
 
 Also, boot either SuSe or LM, and diff -r the /etc directories,
 especially sysconfig (which probably does not exist on SuSe -
 never mind  (sorry about that!)).
 
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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

I use konqueror for most browsing but...
Konqueror doesn't handle javascript as well as netscape does.  There are some 
sites I frequent that require javascript work to make the website useful and 
konqueror just wont do it (my M$ outlook email interface at work is one such 
page that doesn't work well in konqueror).  There are other sites that use 
flash and such that konqueror can't deal with even when the netscape flash 
plugin is available.  

For some sites, konqueror is not an option and only netscape can handle them. 
Don't know about Opera but then, I suppose it doesn't do netscape plugins 
which would rule it out for many sites.

On Friday 06 April 2001 15:11, s wrote:
 I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat netscape
 hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only improved
 in 2.1!
 By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install
 and try it out.
 -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
  I just wish konquerer were faster.

  ron

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't 
handle is the DRI website.  What happens:  First off, the page is misrendered 
in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the main page is 
OK).  The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so as to be 
unreadable.  If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set encoding" 
and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the MANY other web 
pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the page I am on, it 
dumps me back to the main DRI page.  So, I can either browse the 
documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the 
misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages 
without any problems at all.

Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1.  I 
don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I 
am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2.

On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote:
 I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
 loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded.  Then
 again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to enable
 java.

 --- s [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know what's up with yours, but konqueror has always beat
  netscape
  hands down for me in stability and page loading.  And it has only
  improved in
  2.1!
  By the way, a new opera version is out today.  I'm just about to install
  and
  try it out.
  -s
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 02:47 pm, you wrote:
   I just wish konquerer were faster.
 
   ron

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread s

H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a problem. 
Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine out?
-s

On Friday 06 April 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote:
 One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't
 handle is the DRI website.  What happens:  First off, the page is
 misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the
 main page is OK).  The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other so
 as to be unreadable.  If I then go up to the View menu, then down to "set
 encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on the
 MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of fixing the
 page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page.  So, I can either
 browse the
 documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the
 misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages
 without any problems at all.

 Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1.  I
 don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have I
 am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2.

 On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote:
  I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
  loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded.  Then
  again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough to
  enable java.
 




Re: [expert] How to add to windowmanager drop down list?

2001-04-06 Thread A V Flinsch

On Friday 06 April 2001 16:21, you wrote:
 On Fri, 6 Apr 2001 10:42:08 -0400

 "Jeff Malka" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I just upgraded the xfce that came with my Mandrake 7.2 to the latest
  version and installed it successfully.
 
  However, since the upgrade, xfce no longer appears among the list of
  drop-down choices in the graphic login.  It used to be there.  How do
  I add it back to the options?

 Jeff

 I am Presently using LM 7.2 with extras.
 Since LM 7.1 I have had this problem as well and have asked and
 seen asked dozens of times both on the XFCE and the Mandrake Lists
 a simple straight forward solution to the problem. Many and believe me
 MANY people have responded to this with a multitude of methods, few
 have voiced success though there has been the occasional victory.
 However for me personally nothing has EVER worked. Perhaps Mandrakesoft
 could work more closely with Oliver who lives and works in France?
 This is a fine WindowManager and should be treated as such. Some have
 even thought icewm was xfce because of Mandrakes paticular style of
 configuration.

 I always end up putting an .xinitrc file for each user who uses xfce
 into their home directory and going the startx route. Though AutoLogin
 as primary user works too. Sorry this doesnt answer your question but I
 have spent MANY hours following up on solutions from helpful and
 knowledgable individuals and with several years of Linux/Mandrake/XFCE
 use I still can't make it work right!!! Maybe you will be one of the
 Lucky Ones :)

Actually, it's pretty easy to do.
1 - create a file in /etc/X11/wmsession.d - take a peek at the ones there 
for examples, but for xfce, make it look like this

NAME=XFce
ICON=xfce-wmsession.xpm
EXEC=/usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce
DESC=Lightweight desktop environment
SCRIPT:
exec /usr/X11R6/bin/startxfce

2 - as root, run kcontrol, pick the login manager icon on the left, then 
the sessions tab on the right. Type XFCE into the session type box, then 
click the add new button.




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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Randy Kramer

Wolfgang,

Do you mean you're using Netscape Navigator, like version 3.0x?

On Mandrake 7.2?

Did you have any trouble installing it?

I did, and gave up (I'm a newbie), but if you've got it working, I'll
look back and tell you the problem I had -- maybe you can tell me how to
solve it.  (It was a library problem.)

Thanks,
Randy Kramer

Wolfgang Bornath wrote:
 3. finally gave Communicator the kick in the a** and changed to
 Navigator. Combined with me changing to a *real* MUA (see header).




Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page:
http://dri.sourceforge.net

For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose 
either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link.  Scroll down 
the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed up. 
On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to XF86Config 
file section.  There should be blocks of text in that section that are 
displayed all screwy.  

Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text 
that are screwed up.  By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block is 
rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable.  On MOST pages that this 
happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and select 
something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but on these 
DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead.

There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support in 
the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to 
connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL.  Changing the user 
agent to fake being IE doesn't help.

On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote:
 H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a
 problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine
 out? -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 05:59 pm, you wrote:
  One website that konqueror (at least on my system - Mandrake 8.0) can't
  handle is the DRI website.  What happens:  First off, the page is
  misrendered in text if I select any of the links to other DRI pages (the
  main page is OK).  The problem is parts of the text overwrite each other
  so as to be unreadable.  If I then go up to the View menu, then down to
  "set encoding" and select either of the Arabic encodings, which works on
  the MANY other web pages that are similarly misrendered, instead of
  fixing the page I am on, it dumps me back to the main DRI page.  So, I
  can either browse the
  documentation, etc, pages at the DRI website and try to read around the
  misrendered, dicked up text OR I can start netscape and view the pages
  without any problems at all.
 
  Konqueror encoding defaults to "auto" and it is dicked up in KDE 2.1.  I
  don't know about 2.1.1 but with the problems that version appears to have
  I am not going to try it and will wait for 2.1.2.
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 16:33, Ron Heron wrote:
   I guess I just need to work with it more.  Maybe its the "blank" while
   loading images, where netscape always gave the image as it loaded. 
   Then again, I haven't looked deep into the configuration, just enough
   to enable java.

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Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread s

Oh man, I don't know how to tell you this, but mine looked good;  just as I 
imagine the author intended.  However, changing encoding did kick it back to 
home page.  I'm using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 with 12 pt. comic sans.  I 
wish I had a suggestion for you.
Informative site tho, thanx, I've bookmarked it for future reference.
-s

On Friday 06 April 2001 07:47 pm, you wrote:
 Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page:
 http://dri.sourceforge.net

 For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose
 either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link.  Scroll down
 the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is screwed
 up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you get to
 XF86Config file section.  There should be blocks of text in that section
 that are displayed all screwy.

 Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of text
 that are screwed up.  By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that block
 is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable.  On MOST pages that
 this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set encoding and
 select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and this fixes it but
 on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage instead.

 There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support
 in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me to
 connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL.  Changing the user
 agent to fake being IE doesn't help.

 On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote:
  H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a
  problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test mine
  out? -s
 




[expert] snag in pine

2001-04-06 Thread Robert Boggs

I have muy fetchmail working fine. I have porblems sending mail in pine. It
says error 501. It says something about [EMAIL PROTECTED] being wrong.
Help! Robert





RE: [expert]Thanks! (was anonymous ftp login)

2001-04-06 Thread Mike Tracy Holt

Thanks Mark!
I tried getting anonftp installed but it complained that it wanted wu-ftp
installed also.  I installed both of them but they complained about
conflicts with proftpd; I uninstalled them again and took a look at proftpd
and found out that I could get it do exactly what I wanted it to.  I just
had to add a couple of lines to my existing /etc/proftpd.conf file and
viola!

Thanks again for your help!  I wouldn't have found out about proftpd if I
hadn't installed the other two packages.
Mike

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On
Behalf Of Mark Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, April 03, 2001 4:26 AM
To: Expert List
Subject: Re: [expert] anonymous ftp login


Hi Mike,

The first thing you want to do is make sure you have the package anonftp
installed on your system.

rpm -qa | grep anonftp

If you do you will get a response from your system that looks like this;

anonftp-3.0-14mdk

The next thing you will want to do is read and follow very carefully the
instructions that I've sent along. this is what I used to configure and
get going my anonymous ftp. If you have any troubles please feel free to
email me.

Mark

Mike  Tracy Holt wrote:

 Hello experts
 I sent this a couple of days ago, but I'm not sure if it went through.
 Could someone either explain the procedure for making /var/ftp/pub
available
 to anonymous login or possibly point me to a howto?

 Thanks in advance, Mike





Re: [expert] Netscape Locking Up

2001-04-06 Thread Praedor Tempus

Actually, now that I think about it, the problem may well lie with the fact 
that I have font antialiasing enabled with qt-2.3.0 in KDE.  It works well 
for most things but some fonts are totally screwed.

As for the DRI site...the package is NICE.  I have an ATI Radeon 32 DDR video 
card that I just installed with DRI in mind.  Now that I have hardware OpenGL 
3d acceleration enabled, graphics and games go VERY well.

Running the Mesa toy app "gears" from an xterm gives me an average framerate 
of 880.  With nothing else running, I have seen  1000 FPS.  Fullscreen I get 
160 fps.  Before, without hardware accel, I would get around 100 fps in 
default screen size and only about 23 fps fullscreen.  The games Heretic2 and 
Terminus look and run great.  DRI was well worth the minor effort it took to 
download and build (also had to rebuild my kernel to make it all play 
together).  If you have a decent video card with 3d accel capability other 
than an Nvidia, I highly recommend the DRI code.

On Friday 06 April 2001 20:59, s wrote:
 Oh man, I don't know how to tell you this, but mine looked good;  just as I
 imagine the author intended.  However, changing encoding did kick it back
 to home page.  I'm using a 17" monitor at 1024x768 with 12 pt. comic sans. 
 I wish I had a suggestion for you.
 Informative site tho, thanx, I've bookmarked it for future reference.
 -s

 On Friday 06 April 2001 07:47 pm, you wrote:
  Here is the link to the Direct Rendering page:
  http://dri.sourceforge.net
 
  For an example of the problem select the Documentation link, then choose
  either the User Guide link or the DRI Compilation Guide link.  Scroll
  down the page and you should find that some of the text on the page is
  screwed up. On the Users Guide page, for instance, page down until you
  get to XF86Config file section.  There should be blocks of text in that
  section that are displayed all screwy.
 
  Paging down in the Compilation Guide you should find similar blocks of
  text that are screwed up.  By screwed up I mean that ALL the text of that
  block is rendered on top of itself and is thus, unreadable.  On MOST
  pages that this happens on, all you need to do is go to View - Set
  encoding and select something (I usually select Arabic at the top) and
  this fixes it but on these DRI pages, you get kicked back to the homepage
  instead.
 
  There are a few military pages that require SSL (which I do have) support
  in the browser (which I have enabled in konqueror) but will not allow me
  to connect because the sites tell me that I don't have SSL.  Changing the
  user agent to fake being IE doesn't help.
 
  On Friday 06 April 2001 18:09, s wrote:
   H.  Well, I don't go to exotic sites too often.  I haven't had a
   problem. Hey, would you post one or two of those links so I can test
   mine out? -s

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[Fwd: [expert] Netscape Locking Up]

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Stephen:

You can save your draft letter at any stage (and repeatedly) by clicking
on:

File, Save as, Draft

You can also save any message received with:

File, Save As, File

Give it a name: report.txt and then in xterm copy it to a safe place.

Benjamin

"Stephen Lawrence Jr." wrote:
 
 Benjamin Sher wrote:
 
  Dear Craig:
 
   I can write a letter in Netscape for two
  hours with the security that it won't be wiped out by a crash.
  Still,
  just to be sure, I save it as a draft every few paragraphs.
 
 Hmmm, how are you writing paragraphs and saving them in Netscape?
 
 
 --
 Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 California Animal Health  Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis
 (530)-752-4614
 
 

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Re: [expert] Mozilla .8 -- Manually changing fonts

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear Larry:

Thanks a million. Will take a look.

Benjamin
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Benjamin and Anna Sher
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[expert] Texttar LM72 rpm goldmine

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

Thanks to Peter Schram, I discovered a real goldmine for LM72 rpms. Here
is the address:

http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org/

You will find here the latest Mozilla 0.8.1, the latest galeon (and all
required dependencies -- one of which, the libdst++ .so.3 or something
like that included in GConf), the latest Gnome 1.4 (including Nautilus),
etc. etc.

Be sure to bookmark the site. A real goldmine.

Once again, my thanks to Peter Schram.

Benjamin

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http://www.websher.net
Benjamin and Anna Sher
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[expert] Mozilla 0.8 LM72 rpm (March 26) at Textar -- Correction

2001-04-06 Thread Benjamin Sher

Dear friends:

Just for the record:

The Mozilla 0.8.1 LM72 rpm available at Texttar's LM72 site is still the
old Feb 17, 2001 version. However, I expect soon to see the latest 0.8.1
LM72 rpm available on their site. URL:

http://texstar.dyn.dhs.org/

I do not believe that you can use the Cooker version because of the
incompatible versions of the rpm file (version 3 vs. version 4) in LM72
vs LM8.

Benjamin


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Re: [expert] PHP Memory Error

2001-04-06 Thread Rial Juan


It could generate 8MB though... I use a wwwproxy script written in perl for
example which reads files from a box behind our NAT firewall and shows them
to the outside world.

What the script does is: it reads the entire file, then outputs it to
stdout.

Can you imagine how much memory it would need for an iso image?

Maybe your script does something similar: create huge amounts of data for
displaying on the browser, or for internal hell-do-I-know? The script
itself doesn't need to be big; it's the data it generates that's the
problem.

On 2001.04.04 17:41 Stephen Lawrence Jr. wrote:
 Hey all, I have been getting this error on my new 7.2 web server when
 accessing some pages:
 
 
 Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to
 allocate 52740 bytes) in /usr/home/www/phpnuke/header.php on line 231
 
 
 Any ideas? I don't see how this script could be 8MB's in size!
 
 
 --
 Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 California Animal Health  Food Safety Laboratory System, UC Davis
 (530)-752-4614
 
 
 
 !doctype html public "-//w3c//dtd html 4.0 transitional//en"
 html
 Hey all, I have been getting this error on my new 7.2 web server when
 accessing
 some pages:
 brnbsp;
 pFatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to
 allocate 52740 bytes) in /usr/home/www/phpnuke/header.php on line 231
 brnbsp;
 pAny ideas? I don't see how this script could be 8MB's in size!
 brnbsp;
 pre--nbsp;
 Stephen Lawrence Jr. - Programmer
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 California Animal Health amp; Food Safety Laboratory System, UC
 Davisnbsp;
 (530)-752-4614/pre
 nbsp;/html
 
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