[expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
Hi All I can see why people get so p*** off with lists, especially cooker which your mail gets blocked if the word help is used. I'm stuck with having to use a patched kernel 2.4.17-20mdk, but unlike previous kernels this wont even get past make dep It bad enough now that mandrake are using kernel 2.4.18-rc2 and calling it 2.4.17-20mdk ! What is fast dep, there's nothing listed on dependencies when loading the kernel source ? 8.2 will cause more problems when released if this is the standard so far.! So how do I get round this, I'm totally stuck make -C 3rdparty fastdep make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_3rdparty] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 as all the 3rdparty section is set to no, how do I get round this one ?? I'd prefer just to take the standard kernel and just load the modules, unfortunatly I dont have a choice unless I wait til 2.4.20 comes out.. -- Best regards Richard Bown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything]
I am proud of the answers that I am reading. Thanks óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making Mounts accessable to all users
El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 06:40, Nexist Xenda'ths escribió: Hello: I appear to have 'user' specified. that line of my fstab is as follows: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Should I add user again? Try modifying the line, and putting umask=777 instead of umask=0 Saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] msec mail (twice)
I think this a _really_ a MDK question... -- Message transmis -- Subject: [expert] msec mail Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:35:54 +0100 From: FL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I was used to receive mail from the cron.daily check made by msec. For a few weeks : nothing happens, I can read the msec messages in /var/log, but no mail at all. Any idea ? Francois --- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]
Jump into Control Center and select Network and Internet. Under that you'll find Connection Sharing. Select this, click Next a couple of times and you are done. HTH Brian On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 00:35, Francisco Suárez wrote: Hello everybody: I'm a new member of this list. I need some help! I'm trying to configure a router. I only have a eth0 and a ppp link, and I want to allow to all the computers on then LAN to access to internet thought the ppp conexion. Can anybody tell me where to find a HOWTO in which I can learn how to do this? Thanks in advance _ MSN Photos es la manera más sencilla de compartir e imprimir sus fotos: http://photos.latam.msn.com/Support/WorldWide.aspx Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec mail (twice)
El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 10:52, FL escribió: I think this a _really_ a MDK question... -- Message transmis -- Subject: [expert] msec mail Date: Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:35:54 +0100 From: FL [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi! I was used to receive mail from the cron.daily check made by msec. For a few weeks : nothing happens, I can read the msec messages in /var/log, but no mail at all. Any idea ? Francois Is the mail subsystem running properly? saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] (OT) european software patents
hi all european linux fans! maybe u could have some interest to sign that! http://petition.eurolinux.org/index.html thanks jipe -- Tout ce qu'on peut connaître a un nombre. Sans le nombre, nous ne comprenons ni ne connaissons rien. Phiolaos, Ve siècle AV J.C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK8.1 + kernel source or lack there of
Is it just me or doesn't MDK8.1 download edition (free 3 cds) come with the kernel source? While I'm aware that 2.4.8 is a very old kernel by now (and has security problems), it would have been pretty new when MDK8.1 was released. Now, why doesn't it have the kernel source like 7.2 and 8.0 did? This really annoys me as I'm trying to compile a driver. Thanks, pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Deleting Logs
On Mon, 18 Feb 2002 13:47, Nguyen Hung.Takeshi wrote: pesarif wrote: On Sun, 17 Feb 2002 12:25, dfox wrote: My /var/log folder is getting fairly big (10 MB) and its growing quickly (this computer has only 660MB for Linux :( ). How fast is it filling up? How much is it going to be tomorrow, or next week? Not very fast: I'd estimate about 100K a day. /var should really be on a separate partition. That's not always possible, of course. I agree but with only 660MB for Linux... :( My question is: is it safe to regularly delete logs (using just the rm command) or is there a correct way to do it? Well, the safe way is to kill -HUP the programs that are generating the logs, rm (or trim) the logs, and then restart the logging programs. That's basically what logrotate does. So I can safely delete _anything_ in /var/log? This is the thing that I'm really concerned about: Will I break anything by deleting? Removing the logs is possible, but you might want to see what's in there from time to time (otherwise, why bother to log?) so it's usually better to trim them. So for instance if your logs are over a month old, you could edit out all entries for December and/or January. I only need to look at the logs for the last 24 hours (it's not connected to the internet but is a LAN telnet, ftp, ssh and mail server :)). For a word, you can delete the logs if dont consider security . By the way, your hdd is only 660MB in ONE partition. What happens when your machine crashed ? Linux never crashes :) I reinstall if that happens but what do logs have to do with security? Thanks, pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Deleting Logs
To truncate a log you could use logfilename. This is the old 'create a 0 size file trick'. Applied to a log file it'll truncate the log to zero size but won't remove the log so any logging routines will continue to work. If you rm a log file some loggers esp. in other unix's give up and stop logging rather than re-creating the log. Regarding what have logs got to do with security. If you regularly examine the logs for signs of faults or unusual behaviour (looking for open stable doors) that information is lost once the log is truncated. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
On Saturday 23 February 2002 04:45 am, you wrote: Hi All I can see why people get so p*** off with lists, especially cooker which your mail gets blocked if the word help is used. I can undesrtand why they'd do something like that - cooker is not a help list, per se. It's there to assist with the distro development, not solve general problems for regular users. And posting in all caps is considered shouting, so that may get you ignored as well. And, as a general rule, posts with help' scattered liberally throughout the Subject line tend to be from people who haven't read the man page or the docs, haven't searched the list archives, haven't done a web search, and in general haven't expended any effort o their own behalf to solve their own problem. We're all guilt of that at times becase the effort to reserach a solution may be disproportionate to the problem itself and it is easier to tap a guru on the shoulder and get a quick answer. And all this is not to belittle your request for help. If your problem is really with a cooker kernel and a problem trying to recomplie the current cooker kernel because of some problem with it, re-state your request and ask the cooker list (without shouting HELP). But if the problem appears to be operator error and not a cooker problem, you'll likely not get an answer. I haven't complied a kernel in a few years, but from what you posted, it looks like you're having a dependency problem with the 3rd party apps, even if you deselect them all in the config file. Try moving the /usr/src/linux/3rdparty directory somewhere else and see what happens and use make distclean or make mrproper (I forget which one is appropriate it's been so long, so you'll have to look that one up). If you still have trouble and need to use a ptached kernel, try patching the official kernel sources and not the already heavily patched Mandrake sources. I never had much luck tryng to patch them. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK8.1 + kernel source or lack there of
p Is it just me or doesn't MDK8.1 download edition (free 3 cds) come with the p kernel source? While I'm aware that 2.4.8 is a very old kernel by now (and p has security problems), it would have been pretty new when MDK8.1 was p released. Now, why doesn't it have the kernel source like 7.2 and 8.0 did? p This really annoys me as I'm trying to compile a driver. p Thanks, p pesarif It does have kernel source. Open the software manager, switch from treeview to listview and you will see it there under installable. Regards Onur Kucuk _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec mail (twice)
Of course the mail system is running on two servers without any problems. Because this is the same situation on two MDK box I'm running. I really think it has been done via an update, but don't know wich one. Francois Le Samedi 23 Février 2002 11:18, Oscar a écrit : El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 10:52, FL escribió: I was used to receive mail from the cron.daily check made by msec. For a few weeks : nothing happens, I can read the msec messages in /var/log, but no mail at all. Any idea ? Francois Is the mail subsystem running properly? saludos óscar. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Konqueror, saving sorting as name (case sensitive)
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 03:17, Jonathan Dlouhy wrote: Is there any way to set Konqueror under View, Sort, Name (case sensitive) so it will stay that way when I open up new instances of Konqueror. Sometimes it won't retain that setting if I minimize the program. Thanks, Jonathan Dlouhy Hi, Window/Save View Profile is what I think you want. pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] bulding the KDE menu, update-menus?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:47, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: For some reason I suddenly lost my menustructure for KDE, i.e., the menu now only consist of soffice (which I run recently), Bookmarks, Recent Documents, Quick Browser, Run command ..., Configure, Lock Screen, and Logout. I have checked with menudrake and it still know the full structure. I think this checks the global version at /usr/share/applnk[-mdk] I have run update-menus (as user and as root) to regenerate the menus, but that have been in vain. So now my (probably really stupid) question is: what do I do to regenerate the full menu structure for KDE. IIRC, you are not supposed to use update-menus (don't ask me why). Just rm -rf ~/.kde/share/applnk outside of KDE for your user and it should be fine when you log into KDE. pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] How to set System Sound Device Location
On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 14:35, Nexist Xenda'ths wrote: Hello: I have Mandrake 8.1 with Ximian Gnome. All sound applications point to /dev rather than to /dev/sound How do I fix this? Sorry, I don't see the problem. Please explain what you mean by this. Also, does everything that plays sound use esd by default? No, they use a lower level thing called Open Sound System (OSS) or in the future, Advanced Linux Sound Architecture (ALSA). If not, is there a way I can force them to? Type soundwrapper myprogram name. pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] probally a daft question BUT
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 00:22, richard wrote: Hi all re:patching a diff file to the kernel I tried to patch and got this [root@fw-gb7tf linux-2.4.17-20mdk]# patch -n kernel-2.4.17-20mdk That's not how you patch something! You cd into the appropriate directory where your unpatched source is and then type patch -p0 netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff.patch. Read up the manpage on patch with regards to -p0 because it's confusing (to me, anyway) and in this case, it's -p1. Forget the -n (patch can figure it out by itself) and plus it's -u in this case since you have a unified patch, anyway. netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff patch: Only garbage was found in the patch input. The first lines of the patch is diff -ruN -X dontdiff linux-2.4.17-20mdk/net/netrom/af_netrom.c linux/net/netrom/af_netrom.c --- linux-2.4.17-20mdk/net/netrom/af_netrom.c Tue Feb 19 16:06:42 2002 +++ linux/net/netrom/af_netrom.cTue Feb 19 16:14:39 2002 @@ -31,7 +31,9 @@ * NET/ROM 007 Jonathan(G4KLX) New timer architecture. * Impmented Idle timer. * Arnaldo C. Melo s/suser/capable/, micro cleanups - * Jeroen (PE1RXQ) Use sock_orphan() on release. + * Jeroen(PE1RXQ) Use sock_orphan() on release. + * Tomi(OH2BNS)Better frame type checking. + * Device refcnt fixes. */ Am I right to use -n for the patch option ? No, no, -u in this case (see the diff -u :). And just leave it out anyway. and to apply the patch to the source code within the /usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20 directory ? cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20 patch -p1 netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff.patch. pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
I am having a sale on bullets this week On Friday 22 February 2002 19:37, you wrote: On Friday 22 February 2002 18:04, you wrote: I GIVE UP ON COMPUTERS, LINUX AND EVERYTHING Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] MDK8.1 + kernel source or lack there of
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:29, Onur Kucuk wrote: p Is it just me or doesn't MDK8.1 download edition (free 3 cds) come with the p kernel source? While I'm aware that 2.4.8 is a very old kernel by now (and p has security problems), it would have been pretty new when MDK8.1 was p released. Now, why doesn't it have the kernel source like 7.2 and 8.0 did? p This really annoys me as I'm trying to compile a driver. p Thanks, p pesarif It does have kernel source. Open the software manager, switch from treeview to listview and you will see it there under installable. Ok, I lied a little :) I don't actually have the 3rd CD. Is it on the 3rd CD (I still can't see the kernel-source package it in rpmdrake)? Thanks, pesarif Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
On Saturday 23 February 2002 07:56 am, you wrote: On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 12:27, Hoyt wrote: I haven't complied a kernel in a few years, but from what you posted, it looks like you're having a dependency problem with the 3rd party apps, even if you deselect them all in the config file. Try moving the /usr/src/linux/3rdparty directory somewhere else and see what happens and use make distclean or make mrproper (I forget which one is appropriate it's been so long, so you'll have to look that one up). I tried moving the 3rdparty directory, all that happens there is that make config, or make xconfig fail on startup as that directory is used. Then you'll have to try something else. As for posting to the cooker list I cant due to some obnoxios premadonna who dos'nt like the word help being used. Not using the word HELP in the subject line seems to be the way to go then. They've patched the mandrake kernel so much there is only a handfull of people now, that can successfully compile it...,thats not development . Can you compile the unaltered Mandrake sources? If so, then it's what you are doing or the incompatability of the patch (to mandrake sources) that is the problem. the process of development is to product a stable working product, and not to have a private little club. No, it's to have a working product the way the Mandrake developers want it. If you want something different, you're on your owm -- that choice is what Linux and free software are all about. My advice? Patch the generic kernel sources. If that fails, double-check your methodology and if your methodology is correct, contact the person who wrote the patch. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
On Saturday 23 February 2002 08:14 am, you wrote: I am having a sale on bullets this week On Friday 22 February 2002 19:37, you wrote: On Friday 22 February 2002 18:04, you wrote: I GIVE UP ON COMPUTERS, LINUX AND EVERYTHING Waste of a good bullet. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:14:00 -0500 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled whimsically: I am having a sale on bullets this week On Friday 22 February 2002 19:37, you wrote: On Friday 22 February 2002 18:04, you wrote: I GIVE UP ON COMPUTERS, LINUX AND EVERYTHING === Would you put some in the hands of this looney? ;o) ...and have him going _postal_ ? Mike -- He may look like an idiot and talk like an idiot but don't let that fool you., he really is an idiot. -Groucho Marx _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] postfix / sympa
I'm trying to get sympa and postfix running together. I thought it will be easy because they are all two in rpms... That was an error ;-) 1. wwsympa.scgi seems to need to be run with sympa UID Ok, so I set up an apache virtual server with sympa UID No : apache refuse servers with UID 100 2. So I run a server with another UID 3. Then I spent a lot of time to change the permissions on some directories 4. Now I can lauch wwsympa.cgi and create a list, but I can't send mail. I have made mail alias. The postfix error is the following : Feb 18 21:27:00 fabula postfix/local[15708]: E0FB5: to=[EMAIL PROTECTED], relay=local, delay=435442, status=deferred (temporary failure. Command output: /usr/lib/sympa/bin/queue: while opening queue file 'T.equipe.1014064020.15725': Permission denied ) Wich directory should I change now ? Francois Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
On Saturday 23 February 2002 08:52, you wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 08:14:00 -0500 ed tharp [EMAIL PROTECTED] scribbled whimsically: I am having a sale on bullets this week On Friday 22 February 2002 19:37, you wrote: On Friday 22 February 2002 18:04, you wrote: I GIVE UP ON COMPUTERS, LINUX AND EVERYTHING === Would you put some in the hands of this looney? ;o) ...and have him going _postal_ ? Mike just jokeing, it is against the law to sell firearms or amunition via the mail or interstate without proper lic. and I don't think they should ginve _ME_ a drivers lic., much less an interstate fire arms lic. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] probally a daft question BUT
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002 00:03:47 +1100 pesarif [EMAIL PROTECTED] studiouisly spake these words to ponder: On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 00:22, richard wrote: Hi all re:patching a diff file to the kernel I tried to patch and got this [root@fw-gb7tf linux-2.4.17-20mdk]# patch -n kernel-2.4.17-20mdk That's not how you patch something! You cd into the appropriate directory where your unpatched source is and then type patch -p0 netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff.patch. Read up the manpage on patch with regards to -p0 because it's confusing (to me, anyway) and in this case, it's -p1. Forget the -n (patch can figure it out by itself) and plus it's -u in this case since you have a unified patch, anyway. netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff patch: Only garbage was found in the patch input. The first lines of the patch is diff -ruN -X dontdiff linux-2.4.17-20mdk/net/netrom/af_netrom.c linux/net/netrom/af_netrom.c --- linux-2.4.17-20mdk/net/netrom/af_netrom.c Tue Feb 19 16:06:42 2002 +++ linux/net/netrom/af_netrom.cTue Feb 19 16:14:39 2002 @@ -31,7 +31,9 @@ * NET/ROM 007 Jonathan(G4KLX) New timer architecture. * Impmented Idle timer. * Arnaldo C. Melo s/suser/capable/, micro cleanups - * Jeroen (PE1RXQ) Use sock_orphan() on release. + * Jeroen(PE1RXQ) Use sock_orphan() on release. + * Tomi(OH2BNS)Better frame type checking. + * Device refcnt fixes. */ Am I right to use -n for the patch option ? No, no, -u in this case (see the diff -u :). And just leave it out anyway. and to apply the patch to the source code within the /usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20 directory ? cd /usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20 patch -p1 netrom-2.4.17-20mdk.diff.patch. pesarif well I'll be dipped! so _thats_ how patch works!! I've been wondering about that for the longest time but just never got around to figuring it out. That's awesome! -- daRcmaTTeR - Registered Linux User 182496 - 9:05am up 3 days, 1:41, 3 users, load average: 0.53, 0.64, 0.56 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
On 23 Feb 2002, richard wrote: Hi All I can see why people get so p*** off with lists, especially cooker which your mail gets blocked if the word help is used. I'm stuck with having to use a patched kernel 2.4.17-20mdk, but unlike previous kernels this wont even get past make dep It bad enough now that mandrake are using kernel 2.4.18-rc2 and calling it 2.4.17-20mdk ! What is fast dep, there's nothing listed on dependencies when loading the kernel source ? 8.2 will cause more problems when released if this is the standard so far.! So how do I get round this, I'm totally stuck make -C 3rdparty fastdep make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_3rdparty] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 Try this: cd to your linux source directory copy your .config file elsewhere cp .config /tmp/config Make the sources pristine with make mrproper Restore the config cp /tmp/config .config make oldconfig make dep make clean Then try to rebuild with make bzImage Many times errors are caused by not cleaning out everything from scratch. There may be cruft left in from one of the developers that's causing your build to fail. as all the 3rdparty section is set to no, how do I get round this one ?? I'd prefer just to take the standard kernel and just load the modules, unfortunatly I dont have a choice unless I wait til 2.4.20 comes out.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] need help connection refused ftp server
On Friday 22 February 2002 22:17, you wrote: On Friday 22 February 2002 22:01, you wrote: I hope the list administrator bans this dude. This is uncalled for. OTOH, IMO, we should avoid provoking people like this so we can have a civilized discussion group. Eh... I believe the guys were saying previously that there *was* no provocation. He's a troller; that's what trollers do. It's just a matter of getting prepared for stuff like this. It's going to come wether you are civilized or not. _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com BAN?? NO... don't ban anyone, heck this was the most interesting thread all week.. but now its time to let it die... bye bye troll-thread no more from me here on this thread Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: rsync problem (was beta2 to beta3)
Ron, Thanks! I will be modifying the http://twiki.org/cgi-bin/view/Wikilearn/RsyncingALargeFileBeginner page to incorporate your comments, first verbatim and later refactored. I plan to list your name as a contributor. In fact, I'm going to insert your comments now and then come back. If you have any comments, suggestions, or objections, let me know. Randy Kramer Ron Stodden wrote: rsync modules are essentially very convenient path shortcuts. The modules available from any rsync server can easily be ascertained thusly: rsync rsync://server URL and the contents of any path under the module thusly: rsync rsync://server URL/path/ That way you can rapidly explore the whole module tree. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 13:29, Hoyt wrote: On I tried moving the 3rdparty directory, all that happens there is that make config, or make xconfig fail on startup as that directory is used. Then you'll have to try something else. suggest then ? Can you compile the unaltered Mandrake sources? If so, then it's what you are doing or the incompatability of the patch (to mandrake sources) that is the problem. last kernel that compiled was 2.4.16 without problems 2.4.17-20mdk fails on make dep on the 3rdparty section, so its not the patch I added. the process of development is to product a stable working product, and not to have a private little club. No, it's to have a working product the way the Mandrake developers want it. If you want something different, you're on your owm -- that choice is what Linux and free software are all about. My advice? Patch the generic kernel sources. If that fails, double-check your methodology and if your methodology is correct, contact the person who wrote the patch. I'm downloading the generic kernel now, and compiled it. The 3rdparty section is a mandrake addon, screwup, whatever. Is it too much to ask who ever put patched that on to the generic kernel how to compile it . If the mandrake kernel gurus add something, they should at least support it. As I said this should have been posted to cooker, but they dont like to sort out the mess they make, and block mailing. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Best regards Richard Bown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] problem building from scr.rpms
Lately I have gotten this error when I try to build from Mandrake-Linux filename.src.rpm files. + exit 0 Executing(%install): /bin/sh -e /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.18747 + umask 022 + cd /usr/src/RPM/BUILD + cd xine-lib-0.9.8 + rm -rf /var/tmp/xine-lib-buildroot + %makeinstall_std /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.18747: fg: no job control error: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.18747 (%install) RPM build errors: Bad exit status from /var/tmp/rpm-tmp.18747 (%install) What does this mean and how do I repair it? -- David Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] msec mail (twice)
Look in /etc/security/msec/security.conf Maybe this update has corrupted or changed this config file. In this file you should find: MAIL_WARN=yes MAIL_USER=root And you must look in /etc/postfix/aliases to see who is receiving the root mail. Saludos óscar. El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 13:42, FL escribió: Of course the mail system is running on two servers without any problems. Because this is the same situation on two MDK box I'm running. I really think it has been done via an update, but don't know wich one. Francois Le Samedi 23 Février 2002 11:18, Oscar a écrit : El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 10:52, FL escribió: I was used to receive mail from the cron.daily check made by msec. For a few weeks : nothing happens, I can read the msec messages in /var/log, but no mail at all. Any idea ? Francois Is the mail subsystem running properly? saludos óscar. -- .-. oo| /`'\ Usuario de Linux Registrado #227443 (\_;/) http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
On Saturday 23 February 2002 10:39 am, you wrote: suggest then ? None. Can you compile the unaltered Mandrake sources? If so, then it's what you are doing or the incompatability of the patch (to mandrake sources) that is the problem. last kernel that compiled was 2.4.16 without problems 2.4.17-20mdk fails on make dep on the 3rdparty section, so its not the patch I added. the process of development is to product a stable working product, and not to have a private little club. No, it's to have a working product the way the Mandrake developers want it. If you want something different, you're on your owm -- that choice is what Linux and free software are all about. My advice? Patch the generic kernel sources. If that fails, double-check your methodology and if your methodology is correct, contact the person who wrote the patch. I'm downloading the generic kernel now, and compiled it. The 3rdparty section is a mandrake addon, screwup, whatever. Is it too much to ask who ever put patched that on to the generic kernel how to compile it . Well, the trick is to find out what was cjanged to make teh patch no longer work. I've had that problem with Win4Lin patches against the Mandrake kernel. If the mandrake kernel gurus add something, they should at least support it. They just don't seem to be supporting what _you_ want. Big difference. As I said this should have been posted to cooker, but they dont like to sort out the mess they make, and block mailing. Have they blocked all _your_ posts or just the ones with HELP in it? If so, then just repost, but use less confrontational language and: 1. Tell them what you are trying to do (give them a link to the patch). 2. Tell them how you've done it. 3. Tell them what happened 4. Tell them what steps you've taken to try to solve the problem. 5. Remember that they _owe_ you nothing. Good luck. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
thanks for the advice but I already use make mrproper, ansd always use make clean after make dep. This is a mandrake thing, they have added a 3rdparty section, which I cant even past make dep, thats where it fails, I've downloaded the generic kernel patched rc4 and the netrom patch, and it builds and the modules build. There are a few thing in the mdk kernel which make it usefull ie supermount, and thats why I'd rather use it. but it s getting right up my nose the way the demi gods put something in a kernel and dont support it.. it fails every time when trying to make dep at this point make -C 3rdparty fastdep make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_3rdparty] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 14:09, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 23 Feb 2002, richard wrote: Hi All I can see why people get so p*** off with lists, especially cooker which your mail gets blocked if the word help is used. I'm stuck with having to use a patched kernel 2.4.17-20mdk, but unlike previous kernels this wont even get past make dep It bad enough now that mandrake are using kernel 2.4.18-rc2 and calling it 2.4.17-20mdk ! What is fast dep, there's nothing listed on dependencies when loading the kernel source ? 8.2 will cause more problems when released if this is the standard so far.! So how do I get round this, I'm totally stuck make -C 3rdparty fastdep make[2]: Entering directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[2]: *** No rule to make target `fastdep'. Stop. make[2]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk/3rdparty' make[1]: *** [_sfdep_3rdparty] Error 2 make[1]: Leaving directory `/usr/src/linux-2.4.17-20mdk' make: *** [dep-files] Error 2 Try this: cd to your linux source directory copy your .config file elsewhere cp .config /tmp/config Make the sources pristine with make mrproper Restore the config cp /tmp/config .config make oldconfig make dep make clean Then try to rebuild with make bzImage Many times errors are caused by not cleaning out everything from scratch. There may be cruft left in from one of the developers that's causing your build to fail. as all the 3rdparty section is set to no, how do I get round this one ?? I'd prefer just to take the standard kernel and just load the modules, unfortunatly I dont have a choice unless I wait til 2.4.20 comes out.. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Best regards Richard Bown Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] bulding the KDE menu, update-menus?
On Saturday 23 February 2002 05:55, you wrote: On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 05:47, Peter Møller Neergaard wrote: For some reason I suddenly lost my menustructure for KDE, i.e., the menu now only consist of soffice (which I run recently), Bookmarks, Recent Documents, Quick Browser, Run command ..., Configure, Lock Screen, and Logout. I have checked with menudrake and it still know the full structure. I think this checks the global version at /usr/share/applnk[-mdk] I have run update-menus (as user and as root) to regenerate the menus, but that have been in vain. So now my (probably really stupid) question is: what do I do to regenerate the full menu structure for KDE. IIRC, you are not supposed to use update-menus (don't ask me why). Just rm -rf ~/.kde/share/applnk outside of KDE for your user and it should be fine when you log into KDE. pesarif EH? Maybe this is what happened to mine, I installed SO6.0b and all my menus were wiped out even controlcenter. -- Ken Thompson, North West Antique Autos Payette, Idaho Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.nwaa.com Sales and brokering of antique autos and parts. Linux- Coming Soon To A Desktop Near You Registered Linux User #183936 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] bulding the KDE menu, update-menus?
On February 23, 2002, Pesarif wrote: P IIRC, you are not supposed to use update-menus (don't ask me why). P Just rm -rf ~/.kde/share/applnk outside of KDE for your user and it P should be fine when you log into KDE. Thanks, that brought back my menus. Actually, I realized that it is also safe to run update-menus (I presume that is what Menudrake uses when saving the menus). The reason that it didn't work on my system was that I had added my own directory .menu-methods and forgot to put in a method for kde. Gee, do I feel like a dofus. /Peter -- http://www.linearity.org/turtle/contact.html ``When you have had all the experiences, met all the famous people, made some money, toured the world and got all the acclaim you still think--is that it? Some might be satisfied--but I wasn't'' -- G. Harrison Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] HELP HELP HELP REPOSTED AGAIN
Just a short comment, if your subject is vauge then you won't get much in the way of responses. Having a subject of Help doesn't say anything. Most, like myself, get a couple hundred emails a day. How we manage is to look at the subject. If its somethig we can help with we open it. If not or if we can''t figure out what it is about, we hit the delete key and move on. Don't get P*** at a list if you don't make the subject obvious. Just my opinion. Ron richard wrote: Hi All I can see why people get so p*** off with lists, especially cooker which your mail gets blocked if the word help is used. I'm stuck with having to use a patched kernel 2.4.17-20mdk, but unlike previous kernels this wont even get past make dep === Ron Marriage Home Page http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/ Blind Links http://www.seidata.com/~marriage/rblind.html Linux http://www.seidata.com/~seilug/ Email mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MD8.1 installs but fails when it does an isapnp scan
Hi All, I recently bought a laptop and have just installed Linux Mandrake 8.1 on it. The install went fine (better than the W2k one in fact), however booting is somewhat more of a problem. When you tell Mandrake to boot, it starts to load the kernel, and as far as I can see it says something about isapnp then a huge load of numbers pop up (addresses maybe?) and I think they repeat (difficult to tell as its very fast). I'm not much good when it comes to kernel problems. It doesn't finish loading the kernel, so I'm assuming its a kernel problem. The laptop is a Sharp PC-GH10-CH. Its only just come out so there are very few references to it on the web. Has anyone had any similar problems, and more importantly, does anyone know how to fix it? --- Regards, Chris Pringle Webhttp://www.latrigg.demon.co.uk Alias [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making Mounts accessable to all users
Hello: On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 01:43, Oscar wrote: El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 06:40, Nexist Xenda'ths escribió: I appear to have 'user' specified. that line of my fstab is as follows: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Should I add user again? Try modifying the line, and putting umask=777 instead of umask=0 Saludos óscar. Unfortunately, that had no effect. everyone except for Root has read only access. Douglas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: rsync problem (was beta2 to beta3)
Randy Kramer wrote: ... Part of the issue is that the directory must be specified relative to something. I think it is relative to something like the rsync working directory, which may be different than the ftp working directory. Thus the path you specify in an rsync command may need to be different than the path specified in an ftp command. (And I may be all wrong about this -- I was very confused at the time, and, clearly, still am.) If I had to take a flying leap at this point in time, I'd try deleting /pub from the path in your command -- that seems to be what I had to do at the carroll.cac.psu.edu site. If anybody can clarify this, it would be greatly appreciated, and I would be happy to revise the appropriate paragraphs on the WikiLearn page. (Or, since it is a wiki, you can register and revise them yourself.) regards, Randy Kramer I had to do the same thing. I removed pub from the directory in order to get it to read from carroll as well. Why this is the case is beyond my understanding at this time. I will check into eventually after I update this computer to LM8.2beta3 Cooker. It works great on my other computer with some caveates.HTH altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Re: rsync problem (was beta2 to beta3)
nDiScReEt wrote: I had to do the same thing. I removed pub from the directory in order to get it to read from carroll as well. Why this is the case is beyond my understanding at this time. I will check into eventually after I update this computer to LM8.2beta3 Cooker. It works great on my other computer with some caveates.HTH altoine, Thanks for the confirmation. I got some explanations and confirmation from Ron Stoddard and Bill Kenworthy and added their comments to the WikiLearn page. At some point I'll refactor them to make a more coherent story. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: [expert] xemacs 3D effects in MDK 8.1
I finally found out what's happening - the default color for the background has changed. If you run 'xrdb -query | grep Back' you'll see that the background color has been changed to #f0. If this resource is removed, the problem with viewing the 3D effects of the buttons in Xemacs and other programs, e.g. tkhylafax and exmh, goes away. I can't figure out where in the system that this resource is being set, so I've put a script in /etc/X11/xinit.d that has the single line: xrdb -remove *Background Now the background color for Xemacs is it's old, nicely contrasting gray, and xterm's come up with a white background instead of dirty yellow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] WordPerfect 8 Mandrake 8.1
You're lucky! I can't even get it installed. How did you do it? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] Burning iso's
Me neither... David Oberbeck wrote: Burning a 650 iso onto a 700 MB disk makes it unbootable... Hmm, not for me! Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] No .jpe support for Create Image Gallery in Konqueror 2.2.1?
While .jpe images are supported in the embedded image viewer, they are not supported by the Create Image File Function. Is this a bug or do I need to edit some config file somewhere? -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WordPerfect 8 Mandrake 8.1
On Saturday 23 February 2002 03:02 pm, you wrote: You're lucky! I can't even get it installed. How did you do it? The current versions of libc-5.3.12-35mdk.i586.rpm and ld.so-1.9.11-4mdk.i586.rpm from cooker contribs need to be installed. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Using a Laptop in Different Environments
Doing some research on console based programs I ran across this one and thought it might help. It's called QuickSwitch. It allows for the quick changing of profiles from environment to environment. http://edgesolutions.ca/article.php?sid=21 James On Fri, 22 Feb 2002 18:21:12 +0900 J. Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Perhaps some of you have the same problem I do. I take my laptop at work and change IP proxy/firewall etc. Then I return home and have to set it all up again. atm i use differnet logins, but idealy i would have some sort of Enviroment varaible that was set by lilo depending on my bootup which was then used to configure the rest of the proxys and other options on my laptop. DHCP can solve the IP problem but then its not possible ssh into my laptop unitl i find the IP each day. I have found the following sites on this topic, and would be interested to hear other peoples solutions to what I believe must be a common problem. JG http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue21/fvwm.html http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/LG/issue20/laptop.html http://linuxdoc.org/LDP/LG/issue20/laptoplist.html http://wwwhomes.uni-bielefeld.de/portgym/net/netenv.html Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Using a Laptop in Different Environments
On Saturday 23 February 2002 04:30 pm, you wrote: Doing some research on console based programs I ran across this one and thought it might help. It's called QuickSwitch. It allows for the quick changing of profiles from environment to environment. http://edgesolutions.ca/article.php?sid=21 James Isn't there already a network profiles function in Mandrake? -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Shouldn't that be Power Pack and Support Services ? - Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xemacs 3D effects in MDK 8.1
Glenn, Just curious. If you are launching xterm from mandrake's menu you might want to look at the menu command for xterm +dc enables dynamic colors and -dc disables them. If the -dc switch isn't there you might want to add it to the command line and then save the new menu config. As for Emacs... don't know, don't use. But it should be something simular. James On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 14:56:45 -0500 Glenn Burkhardt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I finally found out what's happening - the default color for the background has changed. If you run 'xrdb -query | grep Back' you'll see that the background color has been changed to #f0. If this resource is removed, the problem with viewing the 3D effects of the buttons in Xemacs and other programs, e.g. tkhylafax and exmh, goes away. I can't figure out where in the system that this resource is being set, so I've put a script in /etc/X11/xinit.d that has the single line: xrdb -remove *Background Now the background color for Xemacs is it's old, nicely contrasting gray, and xterm's come up with a white background instead of dirty yellow. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making Mounts accessable to all users
No expert here and probably I'm wrong, but taking a look at my own fstab and what I have for the floppy, maybe adding nosuid before exec would help. Acording to the man page nosuidDo not allow set-user-identifier or set- group-identifier bits to take effect. (This seems safe, but is in fact rather unsafe if you have suidperl(1) installed.) So unless you are using suidperl you shouldn't break anything and it should prevent lockouts. Otherwise I'm not sure. To quote (sorta) Dirty Harry, Do you feel lucky. James On 23 Feb 2002 10:13:32 -0800 Nexist Xenda'ths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 01:43, Oscar wrote: El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 06:40, Nexist Xenda'ths escribió: I appear to have 'user' specified. that line of my fstab is as follows: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Should I add user again? Try modifying the line, and putting umask=777 instead of umask=0 Saludos óscar. Unfortunately, that had no effect. everyone except for Root has read only access. Douglas Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] procmail qmail config
I know I should try to do some work initially with this before asking the list for any inputs, but I ask that the list forgive me, I have a small network with one computer handling the routing and firewall. I would like to add another feature to my linux server. I would like it to have a mail server to collect all of my mail outside of my network and store it internally on it's media. My problem: I have one computer setup with all of my email being pop authenticated to mozilla's messenger. When I hop to another computer, I can get new mail on that system, but I can not access my old email because it is physically on the other computer. Then it came to me... why not have all my mail on one computer? Can it be done? Will it only produce the same effect as before or is there really a solution already out there that would allow me to read saved (old) and new email from any of my networked computers? That is why I didn't try yet first and choose to rather ask the linux mandrake community if there was such a program and if there is, how to configure it to work the way that I want? tia altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] probally a daft question BUT
well I'll be dipped! so _thats_ how patch works!! I've been wondering about that for the longest time but just never got around to figuring it out. That's awesome! Yeah at first it got me as well - but it's important to be in the right place and understand the diff (pun) between -p0 and -p1 etc. FWIW I had a dream last night in that I was watching a windows system do a patch - it would exec a few lines, stop, have the HD shudder, sit for a while, exec a few more lines, etc. :) One of my early experiences in Linux was just being awestruck when doing a patch (and that was on a reaal old system by today's standards) and having the lines just fly so fast on the screen you couldn't see what was going on. I mean, this thing has to do _some_ file manipulation, right? :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft?
they sell other packs besides just the powerpack, (SNF, ProSuite, Corp.) and other serveice besides Support (they will certify your computer design as Mandrake Linux compatible) On Saturday 23 February 2002 16:52, you wrote: Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Shouldn't that be Power Pack and Support Services ? - Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Pack or Ser OT now
server down? I only get a time out at http://www.maximumhoyt.com;? - Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] procmail qmail config
nDiScReEt wrote: I know I should try to do some work initially with this before asking the list for any inputs, but I ask that the list forgive me, I have a small network with one computer handling the routing and firewall. I would like to add another feature to my linux server. I would like it to have a mail server to collect all of my mail outside of my network and store it internally on it's media. My problem: I have one computer setup with all of my email being pop authenticated to mozilla's messenger. When I hop to another computer, I can get new mail on that system, but I can not access my old email because it is physically on the other computer. Then it came to me... why not have all my mail on one computer? Can it be done? Will it only produce the same effect as before or is there really a solution already out there that would allow me to read saved (old) and new email from any of my networked computers? That is why I didn't try yet first and choose to rather ask the linux mandrake community if there was such a program and if there is, how to configure it to work the way that I want? tia altoine, There are at least two ways to do this: Assuming you only want to share mail among computer on your home LAN, and they are all Linux, I think the simplest way is via a shared directory. Simply pick one of your computers to be the main computer for the purposes of mail, then share your ~/home/mail directory (or Mail, or whatever) on the network. On the other computers, simply point your mail client to that shared directory. One disadvantage -- the computer you designated as main should always be up when you are using any other computer to look at mail, so all the mail gets to and stays in that shared directory. (I do this in Windows, and I even (for a short period) read the mail on the Windows main computer using Netscape 3.0x on Linux.) The next way is somewhat similar, except set up an imap server on that main computer, then read your mail from the other computers using an imap client. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Is 8.2 upgrade working???
Hello (again) I wonder whether upgrading 81. to 8.2 beta3 is a easy job. I don't want to lose any data. I remeber that using the upgrade option on 8.1 wasn't a good choice. Many thanks Ed Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] need help connection refused ftp server
Be reasonable, you must know that a problem like connection refused could be caused my all manner of problems. It could be a problem with the server, a problem with the client, the firewall (if any), with the network, with IP masquerading... etc. A simple message like connection refused, unnacceptable is not going to work here. You need to help us in order for us to help you, explain in more detail what you are trying to do, what your setup is and what you've already tried as a fix. The reason you got bitchy responses to your question was not because everyone here is antagonistic, it's because no-one *could* help you with so little information to go on. How could someone take a connection refused message with no other information whatsoever (not even a VERSION for Pro FTPd) and magically divine what the problem is? On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 05:57:00PM -0600, Expert wrote: Oh gee THAT was helpful, NOT! Look if you don't know the answer to the question, DON'T ANSWER!! Its ok to not know something, that is why you ask it. Because you want HELP does that mean anything to you? HELP? I came here for help, and do you help? Hell no, you spew out useless information!!! I bet you don't even know the answer, you are just spewing crap. If I wanted this rubbish from you I would have gone into a newsgroup. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Re: [Cooker] I cannot believe!!! Is it Windows or Linux?
On Mon, Feb 18, 2002 at 08:33:09PM +0100, andre wrote: 1. Did unix exist in 1970? The name maybe. but the os. NO well give or take a year :-) 1st edition of the Unix Time-Sharing System was released on Nov 3, 1971. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:17:25PM -0800, Michael Holt wrote: 6:04pm... Expert ran for the door shrieking: FLAMED BY YOU NAZI FROG COCKSUCKERS eh? Nazi frog ___ ?? Dude, do frogs even *have* ..? :-P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
Le Dimanche 24 Février 2002 00:34, vous avez écrit : On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:17:25PM -0800, Michael Holt wrote: 6:04pm... Expert ran for the door shrieking: FLAMED BY YOU NAZI FROG COCKSUCKERS eh? Nazi frog ___ ?? Dude, do frogs even *have* ..? :-P hmmm! nazi frog? well! let's eat all thoose nazi frogs. and some stalinian snails too.. bye jipe -- Ta mere est tellement grosse que quand elle va au restaurant on ne lui donne pas le menu, on lui fait un devis. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] swap partitions on multiple hard drives - what to putin /etc/fstab?
yup, that'll do it. ;) On Thu, 2002-02-21 at 12:33, Brian Henerey wrote: My current /etc/fstab for one of my systems shows this: [root@cmrldata1 /]# more /etc/fstab /dev/hda2 / reiserfsdefaults1 1 /dev/hda5 /data1 ext2defaults1 2 /dev/hdb5 /data2 ext2defaults1 2 none/dev/ptsdevpts mode=0620 0 0 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom iso9660 user,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0/mnt/floppy vfatuser,noauto 0 0 none/proc procdefaults0 0 /dev/hda1 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/hdc6 /data3 ext2defaults1 2 However, I have swap partitions setup on my 2nd and 3rd hard drives, hdb and hdc. Should they be added with an entry such as this?: /dev/hdb1 swapswapdefaults0 0 /dev/hdc1 swapswapdefaults0 0 Thanks for the advice. -Brian Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Ric Tibbetts Linux registration number: 55684 If you want to help advertise Linux - point your friends to http://counter.li.org/ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
Tomorrow... Tom Eastman ran for the door shrieking: Date: Sun, 24 Feb 2002 12:34:02 +1300 From: Tom Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything On Fri, Feb 22, 2002 at 07:17:25PM -0800, Michael Holt wrote: 6:04pm... Expert ran for the door shrieking: FLAMED BY YOU NAZI FROG COCKSUCKERS eh? Nazi frog ___ ?? Dude, do frogs even *have* ..? :-P lol :-D -- Michael Tracy Holt Kirkland, WA[EMAIL PROTECTED] www.holt-tech.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] === Unix is all about taking big rocks and turning them into little rocks - Windows is all about taking sand... and dumping it in your gas tank... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] [OT] Burning iso's
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002, H.McM wrote: Me neither... David Oberbeck wrote: Burning a 650 iso onto a 700 MB disk makes it unbootable... Hmm, not for me! Randy Kramer Me three! -- After I bit the head off the bat, the animal rights people came after me every night. Probably right after they finished eating their Colonel Sanders or whatev er, telling me I shouldn't be biting the heads off bats. I'll tell you what bats taste like. Like a good McDonald's.-Ozzy Osbourne (1985) Chad Young Registered Linux User #195191 @ http://counter.li.org --- Linux localhost 2.4.18-rc4 #1 Fri Feb 22 12:20:04 AST 2002 i686 unknown 10:10pm up 7:38, 1 user, load average: 0.14, 0.03, 0.01 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
Ta mere est tellement grosse que quand elle va au restaurant on ne lui donne pas le menu, on lui fait un devis. your mother is so fat when she goes to a restaurant, one doesn't give her a menu, one does a ? That's as much as I get from 20 yer old high school french :) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] procmail qmail config
Randy Kramer wrote: nDiScReEt wrote: I know I should try to do some work initially with this before asking the list for any inputs, but I ask that the list forgive me, I have a small network with one computer handling the routing and firewall. I would like to add another feature to my linux server. I would like it to have a mail server to collect all of my mail outside of my network and store it internally on it's media. My problem: I have one computer setup with all of my email being pop authenticated to mozilla's messenger. When I hop to another computer, I can get new mail on that system, but I can not access my old email because it is physically on the other computer. Then it came to me... why not have all my mail on one computer? Can it be done? Will it only produce the same effect as before or is there really a solution already out there that would allow me to read saved (old) and new email from any of my networked computers? That is why I didn't try yet first and choose to rather ask the linux mandrake community if there was such a program and if there is, how to configure it to work the way that I want? tia altoine, There are at least two ways to do this: Assuming you only want to share mail among computer on your home LAN, and they are all Linux, I think the simplest way is via a shared directory. Simply pick one of your computers to be the main computer for the purposes of mail, then share your ~/home/mail directory (or Mail, or whatever) on the network. On the other computers, simply point your mail client to that shared directory. One disadvantage -- the computer you designated as main should always be up when you are using any other computer to look at mail, so all the mail gets to and stays in that shared directory. (I do this in Windows, and I even (for a short period) read the mail on the Windows main computer using Netscape 3.0x on Linux.) The next way is somewhat similar, except set up an imap server on that main computer, then read your mail from the other computers using an imap client. Randy Kramer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Thank you for replying and providing me with such vital information! The computer that I want to grab and share all my email from will and always is up (it is my router/server). Isn't there an inherent flaw or security issue with imap? I will go with either if and only if I can read my email on either computer with any email client. From mutt and sendmail to mozilla messenger and mircosoft outlook. altoine Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
Le Dimanche 24 Février 2002 03:25, vous avez écrit : Ta mere est tellement grosse que quand elle va au restaurant on ne lui donne pas le menu, on lui fait un devis. your mother is so fat when she goes to a restaurant, one doesn't give her a menu, one does a ? That's as much as I get from 20 yer old high school french :) an estimate... bye jipe -- Si tes amants t'ennuient, marie-toi, cela leur donnera du piquant. Jean Anouilh, Le Bal des voleurs Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] xemacs 3D effects in MDK 8.1
I was a bit hasty with my solution. Using 'xrdb -remove' deletes ALL the resources, not just one of them. This script seems to work: #!/bin/sh # # Remove the *Background:#f0 resource, so certain apps have better # contrast xrdb -query | sed -e /^\*Background:/D | xrdb -load But there might be other side effects in removing the Background resource class. Some applications might not know what to do. So I'm not entirely happy with this script, either. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] DVD (newbie) full screen
On Wednesday 20 February 2002 02:42 pm, David Joham wrote: a) If you're using Ogle, AFAIK in the United States it is technically illegal because you're using libdvdcss. [snip] I don't think it is illegal to use Ogle or libdvdcss to watch dvds that you own. What I understand to be illegal is the distribution of libdvdcss by, for example, posting or linking to it. Rich Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Fine I give up on everything
On Saturday 23 February 2002 09:54 pm, you wrote: Le Dimanche 24 Février 2002 03:25, vous avez écrit : Ta mere est tellement grosse que quand elle va au restaurant on ne lui donne pas le menu, on lui fait un devis. your mother is so fat when she goes to a restaurant, one doesn't give her a menu, one does a ? That's as much as I get from 20 yer old high school french :) an estimate... Thank goodness the distro is better than the humor. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Would HP notebooks be a good choice for running linux?
On Saturday 23 February 2002 05:59 pm, you wrote: Hello The subject is pretty much my question, that is, would HP notebooks be a good choice for running linux? Please send me our opinion. I am poor guy aand I don't want mony in something that won't run linux. If you go shopping, the SuSE Live Eval CD is great to use to test the laptops. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Would HP notebooks be a good choice for running linux?
On Sat, 23 Feb 2002 23:10:13 -0500 Hoyt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 23 February 2002 05:59 pm, you wrote: Hello The subject is pretty much my question, that is, would HP notebooks be a good choice for running linux? Please send me our opinion. I am poor guy aand I don't want mony in something that won't run linux. If you go shopping, the SuSE Live Eval CD is great to use to test the laptops. A good second choice is demolinux at demolinux.org. -- Hoyt http://www.maximumhoyt.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Making Mounts accessable to all users
Hello: No effect. I have noticed that I get the same effect when I mount my floppy. My fstab looks as follows (indented lines are continuations of the preceding line): /dev/hdb6 / ext3 defaults 1 1 /dev/hdb1 /boot ext2 defaults 1 2 none /dev/pts devpts mode=0620 0 0 none /dev/shm tmpfs defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb7 /home ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec, codepage=850,ro,noauto 0 0 /dev/fd0 /mnt/floppy auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,sync, exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 /dev/hda1 /mnt/windows vfat iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0, codepage=850 0 0 /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=777, nosuid,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 none /proc proc defaults 0 0 /dev/hdb8 /usr ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb9 /var ext3 defaults 1 2 /dev/hdb5 swap swap defaults 0 0 All help is most appreciated. On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 13:47, James wrote: No expert here and probably I'm wrong, but taking a look at my own fstab and what I have for the floppy, maybe adding nosuid before exec would help. Acording to the man page nosuidDo not allow set-user-identifier or set- group-identifier bits to take effect. (This seems safe, but is in fact rather unsafe if you have suidperl(1) installed.) So unless you are using suidperl you shouldn't break anything and it should prevent lockouts. Otherwise I'm not sure. To quote (sorta) Dirty Harry, Do you feel lucky. James On 23 Feb 2002 10:13:32 -0800 Nexist Xenda'ths [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello: On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 01:43, Oscar wrote: El sáb, 23-02-2002 a las 06:40, Nexist Xenda'ths escribió: I appear to have 'user' specified. that line of my fstab is as follows: /dev/sda4 /mnt/zip auto user,iocharset=iso8859-1,umask=0,exec,codepage=850,noauto 0 0 Should I add user again? Try modifying the line, and putting umask=777 instead of umask=0 Saludos óscar. Unfortunately, that had no effect. everyone except for Root has read only access. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] WineX (transgaming) and 8.1
Randy, Sorry it took so long to get back to you on this! I caught your message when I was back scanning the threads. On Wednesday 13 February 2002 19:38, you wrote: Lyvim Xaphir wrote: If so you're probably exposed to every KDE component known to man. ;) I think KDE is great; well, let me restate thatI love the apps. But the desktop is a little too restrictive for my personal taste, so I run pure Enlightenment (with NO gnome anything) and then enable KDE support for the apps that I use from that desktop environment (Kmail, Kword, and Kspreadsheet are good examples). This makes for a light, fast and nimble environment. Lyvim, Questions: Have you ever tried any of the dcop (or kdcop) stuff for interprocess communication among apps? Does it work under Enlightenment? Well, the only thing that I can say is that the dcop stuff is active, definitely. No doubt. I can see the dcop links in my home directory are valid when X and E are running. Now...the real question would require a test between two applications, or something similar. The problem is that I never run KDE, so I don't know wether my everyday operations include real interprocess communications functions or not. I'm still fascinated with transparent Eterms, and the occasional MS Word document imports. Wellof course then there's Baldur's Gate 2, also. Can you give me a test to run? I use the middle button alot to paste selections from other areas, but I don't think this is what you are referring to. What would constitute a valid test? Just for information, AbiWord is more than just a gtk app, it is distributed as gtk and non-gtk, and for Windows and several other platforms (not sure which -- they are working on Mac, they stopped working on Beos). Randy Kramer Did you hear that BeOS has sued Microsoft? _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
