Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread FemmeFatale

Brian Parish wrote:

  User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)
 
 
  --
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 Sounds like what I'm after.  Is this in Galeon?  Can't see it here.
 
 Blind again???
 
 Brian
 

*hands Brian some glasses with New  IMPROVED 3D capability!*

Yes its in there... Though thinking about it, I'm not sure if its
Konqueror Or Galeon that has it.  I believe both.  I'll load my linux 
poke around in there tommorow for you  email the instructions pvtly if
someone else doesn't give you the correct one by then.

Cause atm I'll be damned if I can remember the exact area this is in :)
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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread heatheri

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:21:25 -0600
FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Brian Parish wrote:
 
   User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)
  
  
   --
   Femme
  
  Sounds like what I'm after.  Is this in Galeon?  Can't see it here.
  
  Blind again???
  
  Brian
  



OK I was wrong, its in Konqueror.  I got the 2 mixed up. Sorry.

Its under SettingsConfigure KonquerorUser Agent.

In there you hit New tab,  tell it what browser from the dropdown list you want 
Konq. to imitate.

After that it should be simple.  A friend of mine uses M$'s site that requires their 
IE that way.  Works for him.

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[expert] KDE 3

2002-04-30 Thread Brian York

I finally got the liquid theme installed and will keep
KDE 3 if i can get this fixed:

When i click on an mp3 file my file browers close. And
noatun doesn't work. That may be the prob but there is
no rpm that i could find to just reinstall it. Anyone
had this problem under Mandrake 8.2?

Thanks
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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On 30 Apr 2002 15:07:03 +1000, Brian Parish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 14:38, FemmeFatale wrote:
  Sevatio wrote:
   
   Brian Parish wrote:
Can anyone point me at a way of fooling a website that insists on IE and
refuses to load if anything else is used?  Supposedly this is because
the site uses some javascript that doesn't work in Netscape and some
other browsers, but I'd be surprised if Galeon couldn't handle it.  Is
there a way of having Galeon, or another linux browser tell the site
that it's IE, but still behave reasonably in other ways?
   
I'd like to avoid using the site at all of course, but unfortunately I
work for these people, and this secure site is how my jobs get
allocated.
   
TIA
Brian
  
  User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)
  
  
  -- 
  Femme
  
 Sounds like what I'm after.  Is this in Galeon?  Can't see it here.
 
 Blind again???
 
 Brian

Here are some instructions for Galeon:

http://galeon.sourceforge.net/support/answers.php?faq=user-agent

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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread Brian Parish

On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 17:38, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 01:21:25 -0600
 FemmeFatale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Brian Parish wrote:
  
User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)
   
   
--
Femme
   
   Sounds like what I'm after.  Is this in Galeon?  Can't see it here.
   
   Blind again???
   
   Brian
   
 
 
 
 OK I was wrong, its in Konqueror.  I got the 2 mixed up. Sorry.
 
 Its under SettingsConfigure KonquerorUser Agent.
 
 In there you hit New tab,  tell it what browser from the dropdown list you want 
Konq. to imitate.
 
 After that it should be simple.  A friend of mine uses M$'s site that requires their 
IE that way.  Works for him.
 
 Femme

OK, found it, did it, but it don't do the business for this site.

Doesn't matter though as Opera does it very nicely.

thanks again
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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:

 daRcmaTTeR wrote:
  On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, silkythreads wrote:
 
 
  And I'll take this bet !!!
 
  It's a very little known fact that the government got exactly what it 
wanted from Microsoft during the bru-haha  do you really think MS didn't do for 
the US Gov what they told them to do or else.  True, MS got some return but ... 
the government got it's monies worth and the people are paying the real price 
without even knowing it and MS gets to rule supreme.
 
 http://silkythreads.com//
 
   - Original Message -
   From: Jim Dawson
   To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 12:58 PM
   Subject: Re: Re: [expert] Linux for Kids
 
 
   Who wants to bet that if several competing computer companies were to form a 
coalition to compete more effectively against Microsoft, Bill Gates and/or Steve 
Balmer would get the heads of the Justice Department, Department of Commerce, etc. on 
the phone and DEMAND that it be shut down on antitrust grounds.
 
 
 
  man! those guys are just plain mud-sucking evul :\
 

 Ya, and our government seems to be no better. Has anyone here ever did
 some IT work for our government? The .gov domain is ran entirely on
 NT/2000 servers across a Cisco backbone. Now this really makes a lot of
 sense (sarcasm). Our government puts up a feckless fight in court while
 all the time using Microsoft crap. Go figure

 Dr John,
 The Night Tripper

that is truely pathetic.

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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Brian wrote:

 Some sites are fooled by setting Opera to IE.

 This kind of junk sure makes one wonder why there are standards and some
 webmasters choose to ignore them in favor of proprietary junk.

 If more people complained to these sites then maybe they'd worry about W3C
 standards.


I doubt it since part of the standards problem is the junk these
webmasters are using to code these sites with. I think you know what I'm
refering to. I can't bring myself to say it because speaking the words
causes me to break out in hives.

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Re: [expert] Dell Inspiron 8200??

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Mcleod, Ian wrote:

 Hi,

 Has anyone had much experience with the Dell 8200 (or even the 8100) on
 Linux Mandrake?

 I am about to purchase one and need to determine which hardware components
 to specify.  I have heard Lucent internal modems can work with Linux - is
 this true?  What about the Ethernet card - will 3COM internal cards work?

 And the sound?  They will supply a Crystal (Cyrus Logic?) CS4205 internal
 sound card chipset (apparently partly software driven?) - this looks like a
 bit of a concern too.

 Any ideas very welcome!!!

 Ian McLeod
 Customer Service Office (CSO)
 EDS (Australia) Pty Ltd
 Level 9, 108 North Tce, Adelaide, SA, 5000
 Phone: (08) 8464 1304
 Fax:  (08) 8464 2141
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 value in the Digital Economy
 SAG Account Vision
 * EDS becomes the clear supplier of choice to South Australian based
 customers for all IT services and needs, regardless of contractual
 obligations


as a rule piggy backing is bad form on a list, but in answer to your
question Dell's like Mandrake. I've loaded Mandrake Linux on various
different Dell models with resounding and flawless success. at the moment
I've got a Dell Dimension sitting here on my desk at home happily running
Mandrake 8.2 and a Optiplex at work running the same.

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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread Alexander Skwar

»FemmeFatale« sagte am 2002-04-29 um 22:38:44 -0600 :
 User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)

However, quite some pages are not using simple UA detection.


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Re: [expert] Mandrake Security

2002-04-30 Thread Payal

Log in as normal user and then su root
-Payal
On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Brian York wrote:

 I have my computer set at higher security (Mandrake
 8.2) and it doesn't let me login as root which i need
 to how can i change some file to let me login as root
 with out droping a security level?
 
 Thanks
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[expert] locate not working

2002-04-30 Thread Payal

Hi,
I have installed loMandrake Linux 8.2 with mediumsecurity.
But when I type locate somefilename, I get only one or two instances of it
even thoguh the whole h/d including the windows partitions [vfat] has few
instances more.
I am not saying that it does not take from windowes partitions at all, but
it never searches the whole harddisk.
I have made necessary changes to up updatedb.conf in /etc which will allow
it to see the whole h/d. Then I ran updatedb  as well as slocate -u  to
be on safer side. Still not all of my h/d is covered. Some random portions
are never taken into account of.
Please tell me what is wrong. I had no problems like this with Mandrake
8.0 or before. 
Thanks and bye.
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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread Brian


On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:23:14 -0400 (EDT)
daRcmaTTeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Brian wrote:
 
  Some sites are fooled by setting Opera to IE.
 
  This kind of junk sure makes one wonder why there are standards and some
  webmasters choose to ignore them in favor of proprietary junk.
 
  If more people complained to these sites then maybe they'd worry about W3C
  standards.
 
 
 I doubt it since part of the standards problem is the junk these
 webmasters are using to code these sites with. I think you know what I'm
 refering to. I can't bring myself to say it because speaking the words
 causes me to break out in hives.
 
 -- 
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 --
 Registered Linux User 182496

Any even slightly competent webmaster should and does check his/her pages in
several browsers to make sure as much as possible works or at least doesn't do
something totally wrong.  This is when I usually discover that a certain browser
wants me to add additional formatting tags to do what most of the other browsers
are doing.

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Re: [expert] locate not working

2002-04-30 Thread kwan

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Payal wrote:

 Hi,
 I have installed loMandrake Linux 8.2 with mediumsecurity.
 But when I type locate somefilename, I get only one or two instances of it
 even thoguh the whole h/d including the windows partitions [vfat] has few
 instances more.
 I am not saying that it does not take from windowes partitions at all, but
 it never searches the whole harddisk.
 I have made necessary changes to up updatedb.conf in /etc which will allow
 it to see the whole h/d. Then I ran updatedb  as well as slocate -u  to
 be on safer side. Still not all of my h/d is covered. Some random portions
 are never taken into account of.
 Please tell me what is wrong. I had no problems like this with Mandrake
 8.0 or before. 

It may be the newer security settings. Do you have the same problem if
your run local as the root user? Does the un-privileged user have read
access to the windows drives/partitions?




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[expert] ext3 undelete tool?

2002-04-30 Thread Nelson Bartley

Hi Guys,

I REALLY desperately need to know how to undelete something under an ext3 file 
system. I just accidentally deleted my mail files (over 500MB of e-mail) off 
my network drive and I desperately need to get it back. As I have access to 
the server, I'm hoping there is a restore/undelete tool that can be used on 
that directory.

If any such thing exists please let me know... I'm very desperate at this 
point.

NB
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Re: [expert] ext3 undelete tool?

2002-04-30 Thread Sridhar Dhanapalan

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 11:46:18 -0400, Nelson Bartley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi Guys,
 
 I REALLY desperately need to know how to undelete something under an ext3 file
 
 system. I just accidentally deleted my mail files (over 500MB of e-mail) off 
 my network drive and I desperately need to get it back. As I have access to 
 the server, I'm hoping there is a restore/undelete tool that can be used on 
 that directory.
 
 If any such thing exists please let me know... I'm very desperate at this 
 point.

These are based on ext2, but they may possibly work for ext3 as well:

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion.html
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Ext2fs-Undeletion-Dir-Struct/index.html

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Re: [expert] ext3 undelete tool?

2002-04-30 Thread Hoyt

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 11:46 am, Nelson Bartley wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 I REALLY desperately need to know how to undelete something under an ext3
 file system. I just accidentally deleted my mail files (over 500MB of
 e-mail) off my network drive and I desperately need to get it back. As I
 have access to the server, I'm hoping there is a restore/undelete tool that
 can be used on that directory.

 If any such thing exists please let me know... I'm very desperate at this
 point.



I suspect that all the undelete proceedures for ext2 should work. Just 
re-mount the filesystem as ext2.

mc (Midnight Commander) has an ext2 undelete function that seems as easy to 
use as any.

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Re: Re: Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread Jim Dawson

And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia to stop 
thier unsavory business practices as well...

They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in they're happy.

-Original Message-
From: daRcmaTTeR [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 29 Apr 2002 14:57:56 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

why don't we start a grass roots campaign to let MS know how we feel about
the way they do business. _that_ s is really at the heart of why most of
us here on this list don't like them. its got very little to do with the
software they write and call an OS, but everything to do with the way they
do business.

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Re: Re: Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Jim Dawson wrote:

 And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia to stop 
thier unsavory business practices as well...

 They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in they're 
happy.


Jim,

I hope you don't really believe that. they didn't use to care what people
thought of Linux, but they sure grapes are green what the Penguin is doing
in the desktop world. ergo, Balmer making the worlds biggest ass of
himself in the now infamous Linux is a cancer speech.

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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Brian wrote:


 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 07:23:14 -0400 (EDT)
 daRcmaTTeR [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  On Mon, 29 Apr 2002, Brian wrote:
 
   Some sites are fooled by setting Opera to IE.
  
   This kind of junk sure makes one wonder why there are standards and some
   webmasters choose to ignore them in favor of proprietary junk.
  
   If more people complained to these sites then maybe they'd worry about W3C
   standards.
  
 
  I doubt it since part of the standards problem is the junk these
  webmasters are using to code these sites with. I think you know what I'm
  refering to. I can't bring myself to say it because speaking the words
  causes me to break out in hives.
 
  --
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  Registered Linux User 182496

 Any even slightly competent webmaster should and does check his/her pages in
 several browsers to make sure as much as possible works or at least doesn't do
 something totally wrong.  This is when I usually discover that a certain browser
 wants me to add additional formatting tags to do what most of the other browsers
 are doing.

 --

I'm sorry Brian, but there's only one browser in the world that is
content to render an html statement without the closing tag. all other
browsers as I've experienced want the closing tag to be there. and if MS
would come up to standards you wouldn't have to check your pages in other
browsers to ensure the pages you're outputting will and can be read by
anything apart from IE. supplying only part of a statement without closing
that statement is just sloppy, and lazy coding practice. this sloppy
coding practice flows over into their SQL server platform as well. one
only needs to work on the MS SQL server for a short time to witness this.

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Re: [expert] Ad Absurdum (was Linux for Kids)

2002-04-30 Thread J. Craig Woods

Jim Dawson wrote:
 And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia to stop 
thier unsavory business practices as well...
 
 They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in they're 
happy.
 


Ya, and while we are at it, let's start a campaign against greed, 
corruption, dishonesty, child pornography, corpulence, incompetent 
politicians, and, hell, why not stupidity too.

Now we have our work cut out

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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread Ronald J. Hall

daRcmaTTeR wrote:
 
 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, Jim Dawson wrote:
 
  And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia to stop 
thier unsavory business practices as well...
 
  They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in they're 
happy.

I agree, but...

 Jim,
 
 I hope you don't really believe that. they didn't use to care what people
 thought of Linux, but they sure grapes are green what the Penguin is doing
 in the desktop world. ergo, Balmer making the worlds biggest ass of
 himself in the now infamous Linux is a cancer speech.
 
 --
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 --
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daRc is right also. I'm sure that MS -wants- users to believe that nothing will
change. We only have ourselves to blame if we don't try to make changes or
influence others... Its like your vote, its meaningless unless you actually use
it... ;-)

Don't get discouraged friend, there are more of us out there than you know!

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[expert] OOo and Mozilla: Two bigs Opensource projects releasing

2002-04-30 Thread falcaraz

Tomorow and past tomorow two of the biggest opensource projects will  
release the 1.0: Openoffice and Mozilla.  
  
I think it will be a great day for all the Opensource friends, as us  
^_^   
  
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Re: [expert] browser nazi buster

2002-04-30 Thread FemmeFatale

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 14:31:00 +0200
Alexander Skwar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 »FemmeFatale« sagte am 2002-04-29 um 22:38:44 -0600 :
  User the User Agent Option in the preferences page.  It works for me :)
 
 However, quite some pages are not using simple UA detection.
 
 
 Alexander Skwar
 -- 

Well... that does suck Alexander. :\

I'm sorry to hear that.  *sigh*

I tried. Its the only solution I know of because I despise opera  Konqueror isn't my 
fave either.  Frankly I like Galeon but I do use K a few times if I must too.

Thx Luv, I'll keep that in mind, and thx to Sridhar too for his Galeon URL.

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[expert] Sylpheed Claws

2002-04-30 Thread heatheri

Well I like this program  Know some of you here use it.

My only caveat so far is if I tell it to check my spelling, it complains it can't find 
a dictionary to use.

I'm an english speaker  use that language *badly I'll admit otherwise I wouldn't need 
a spellchecker yes? :)*.

Problem, I can't find this dictionary.  I tried some different ones it has avail in 
the drop down list, but to no avail.

It has a warning beside the Spellcheckbox saying this is Experimental too.

Any clues?

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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 18:31, daRcmaTTeR wrote:

 true...but we're the ones that put those people in office and we can
 just as easily put them out of office as well. one man/woman, one vote and
 the next thing ya know no more M$ butt-kissin lackies. know what I mean?
 
 -- 
 daRcmaTTeR


Very good point.  One that I was about to make in this thread somewhere,
but you beat me to it.

It's vitally important that the middle class take up arms against
politicians that are restricting our freedoms both in the computer
marketplace and in the world at large.  That means that we all need to
be aware of the legislation that is currently being generated and that
is being voted on.

For instance, is anyone aware of a secret vote that took place recently,
(initiated by the democrats) that would take local real estate
development decision making out of the hands of local people and into
the hands of the federal government?  Well, I guess that's a dumb
question, cause how could anybody be aware of it if it was a secret
vote?

It's against the law to have secret congressional votes.  That's why
they announced the location of the secret meeting to the press after the
vote was over with.  Wait a minute...they still broke the law then. 
Well...I guess they can get away with it since the dems do that kind of
stuff all the time.

The point to this is, if you do not become alert to what is going on in
Congress, then they are going to pass whatever they want to pass.  If
you do not protest the violation of laws by lawmakers, then they will
break those laws whenever they want.

You cannot rely on information from television anymore.  It is
controlled by the liberals.  Fox news is a possible exception; however I
personally recommend talk radio shows as your primary source of
information.  Laura Ingram, Drudge Report, and G. Gordon Liddy are good
starting points.  Realplayer can put you in touch with those guys; try
WTAW out of College Station, Texas.

A group movement where interested individuals promote activism is a good
starting point.  Hell, this list is a good starting point.  I like
talking about Mandrake technical stuff as much as the next guy; but if
you don't protect your right to do so first and foremost, you might end
up in jail sometime in the future when the SPA comes knocking at your
door.


Join the EFF.  Listen to talk radio.  Stay in touch.

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Re: [expert] Sylpheed Claws

2002-04-30 Thread jipe

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:04:12 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I like this program  Know some of you here use it.
 
 My only caveat so far is if I tell it to check my spelling, it complains it can't 
find a dictionary to use.
 
 I'm an english speaker  use that language *badly I'll admit otherwise I wouldn't 
need a spellchecker yes? :)*.
 
 Problem, I can't find this dictionary.  I tried some different ones it has avail in 
the drop down list, but to no avail.
 
 It has a warning beside the Spellcheckbox saying this is Experimental too.
 
 Any clues?
 
 Femme
 
 

I'm using version 0.7.4claws83 builded with:
pspell-.12.2
aspell-.33.7.1
and, because I'm french, i added
aspell-fr-0.1.3
i can use too an English dictionary which complains if i try to write English with e 
instead of E :) It is included in the aspell package and located on my box in 
/usr/local/share/pspell

bye
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Re: [expert] Ad Absurdum (was Linux for Kids)

2002-04-30 Thread ed Tharp

On Tuesday 30 April 2002 02:57 pm, you wrote:
 Jim Dawson wrote:
  And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia
  to stop thier unsavory business practices as well...
 
  They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in
  they're happy.

 Ya, and while we are at it, let's start a campaign against greed,
 corruption, dishonesty, child pornography, corpulence, incompetent
 politicians, and, hell, why not stupidity too.

 Now we have our work cut out

 Dr John,
 The Night Tripper
hey now leave stupidity out of this.. but let's do include screaming 
babies in lines and theaters.. 



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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread Brian Schroeder

Anyone want to rename this thread?  I think it has gotten slightly
off the original topic.


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Re: [expert] Sylpheed Claws

2002-04-30 Thread Joseph Braddock

I use Sylpheed Claws 0.7.2 and the spell checking seems to work fine.  This might be a 
silly question, but are you sure you have the dictionary installed that Sylpheed is 
looking for?  My dictionary path is usr/share/pspell/ and the default dictionary is 
en-aspell.  I also tell it to check while writing so that misspelled words appear in 
red and if I right click on them it gives me a list of suggestions.

Joe

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:04:12 -0600
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Well I like this program  Know some of you here use it.
 
 My only caveat so far is if I tell it to check my spelling, it complains it can't 
find a dictionary to use.
 
 I'm an english speaker  use that language *badly I'll admit otherwise I wouldn't 
need a spellchecker yes? :)*.
 
 Problem, I can't find this dictionary.  I tried some different ones it has avail in 
the drop down list, but to no avail.
 
 It has a warning beside the Spellcheckbox saying this is Experimental too.
 
 Any clues?
 
 Femme
 
 



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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

 Very good point.  One that I was about to make in this thread somewhere,
 but you beat me to it.

 It's vitally important that the middle class take up arms against
 politicians that are restricting our freedoms both in the computer
 marketplace and in the world at large.  That means that we all need to
 be aware of the legislation that is currently being generated and that
 is being voted on.

 For instance, is anyone aware of a secret vote that took place recently,
 (initiated by the democrats) that would take local real estate
 development decision making out of the hands of local people and into
 the hands of the federal government?  Well, I guess that's a dumb
 question, cause how could anybody be aware of it if it was a secret
 vote?

 It's against the law to have secret congressional votes.  That's why
 they announced the location of the secret meeting to the press after the
 vote was over with.  Wait a minute...they still broke the law then.
 Well...I guess they can get away with it since the dems do that kind of
 stuff all the time.

 The point to this is, if you do not become alert to what is going on in
 Congress, then they are going to pass whatever they want to pass.  If
 you do not protest the violation of laws by lawmakers, then they will
 break those laws whenever they want.

 You cannot rely on information from television anymore.  It is
 controlled by the liberals.  Fox news is a possible exception; however I
 personally recommend talk radio shows as your primary source of
 information.  Laura Ingram, Drudge Report, and G. Gordon Liddy are good
 starting points.  Realplayer can put you in touch with those guys; try
 WTAW out of College Station, Texas.

 A group movement where interested individuals promote activism is a good
 starting point.  Hell, this list is a good starting point.  I like
 talking about Mandrake technical stuff as much as the next guy; but if
 you don't protect your right to do so first and foremost, you might end
 up in jail sometime in the future when the SPA comes knocking at your
 door.


 Join the EFF.  Listen to talk radio.  Stay in touch.

LX,

what was the secret vote called? I think i'd like to contact my senator
and congressman about this and find out about what they're doing behind
our backs! that REALLY gets under my skin.  ;\

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Re: [expert] Ad Absurdum (was Linux for Kids)

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002, J. Craig Woods wrote:

 Jim Dawson wrote:
  And while we're at it let's start a grass roots campaign to get the Mafia to stop 
thier unsavory business practices as well...
 
  They don't care what anyone thinks. As long as the money keeps piling in they're 
happy.
 
 

 Ya, and while we are at it, let's start a campaign against greed,
 corruption, dishonesty, child pornography, corpulence, incompetent
 politicians, and, hell, why not stupidity too.

 Now we have our work cut out

 Dr John,
 The Night Tripper

;) well John...you've managed to corral the entire human race.
Just how are we supposed to manage all that AND take on M$ at the same
time, huh? Since we're outlawing stupidity that means my head will be on
the chopping block every time I argue with my wife about how much time
I'm in front of the PC coding.

talk about a losing battle. sheesh! I might as well argue with a rock as
think I'm going to win that one.

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Re: [expert] Sylpheed Claws

2002-04-30 Thread heatheri

On Wed, 1 May 2002 01:57:09 +0200
jipe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 17:04:12 -0600
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Well I like this program  Know some of you here use it.
  
  My only caveat so far is if I tell it to check my spelling, it complains it can't 
find a dictionary to use.
  
  I'm an english speaker  use that language *badly I'll admit otherwise I wouldn't 
need a spellchecker yes? :)*.
  
  Problem, I can't find this dictionary.  I tried some different ones it has avail 
in the drop down list, but to no avail.
  
  It has a warning beside the Spellcheckbox saying this is Experimental too.
  
  Any clues?
  
  Femme
  
  
 
 I'm using version 0.7.4claws83 builded with:
 pspell-.12.2
 aspell-.33.7.1
 and, because I'm french, i added
 aspell-fr-0.1.3
 i can use too an English dictionary which complains if i try to write English with 
e instead of E :) It is included in the aspell package and located on my box in 
/usr/local/share/pspell
 
 bye
 jipe 
 
well this is ver. 0.7.2, the one that came with LM8.2.

The exact error message is that it can't Find any suitable wordlists for the tag 
none.

I changed the dictionary *I thought* to a different one, and below that box is 
Default: none.  Howver much as I try I can't change that box?

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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread daRcmaTTeR

On Wed, 1 May 2002, Brian Schroeder wrote:

 Anyone want to rename this thread?  I think it has gotten slightly
 off the original topic.

nahi think it's doing just fine. has that air about it that threads
take on when they're picking up steam and threatening to become one of
those never-say-die threads. This one's got a lot of passion to it.

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Re: [expert] Sylpheed Claws

2002-04-30 Thread heatheri

On Tue, 30 Apr 2002 19:46:15 -0500
Joseph Braddock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I use Sylpheed Claws 0.7.2 and the spell checking seems to work fine.  This might be 
a silly question, but are you sure you have the dictionary installed that Sylpheed is 
looking for?  My dictionary path is usr/share/pspell/ and the default dictionary is 
en-aspell.  I also tell it to check while writing so that misspelled words appear in 
red and if I right click on them it gives me a list of suggestions.
 
 Joe
 

what I have in that directory are ISOxxx.map files.  And one region  one other .map 
file.  So does that tell you anything?

I don't know what to install if I must install anything either.  I *thought* I had a 
speller installed, because Kmail used one.

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[expert] MDK 8.2, IBM ThinkPad 240, 3Com Megahertz 3CXFE575BT - lossage

2002-04-30 Thread foner-mdk

[Please reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or I may not see the reply
 in a timely manner. Thanks!]

I recently installed Mandrake 8.2 on an IBM Thinkpad 240.  Neither
pcmcia.img nor network.img recognized my 3Com Megaherta 3CXFE575BT
10/100 PCMCIA network card, and this laptop doesn't come with a CDROM
drive (and only a few weird ones work with it) so I was forced to put
my laptop disk into my desktop, partition it, put the ISO images in a
partition, then put it back in the laptop and install from there.

When I was done, I had no network:  my PCMCIA card was not recognized,
and none of the normal networking scripts had been installed.

This card works just fine if I boot Windows on the same machine, so it
isn't bad hardware.

So I reinstalled (from that partition of ISO images) with an Orinoco
wireless card present in the machine, and at least this time it
installed all the various networking scripts, and the wireless worked.
(If I'd had a local access point, I'd have a done a network install
over the wireless in the first place, but I didn't.)

But the 3Com 10/100 card still wasn't recognized.  cardctl status says:

  Socket 0:
3.3V CardBus card
function 0: [ready]

whereas, for the wireless (working) card, it includes some other info
after function 0:.  The 3Com card beeped once upon insertion; the
wireless beeped twice (and worked).

After a great deal of rather fruitless web-searching, I decided to
follow the instructions in PCMCIA HOWTO and compile the 3.1.33 version
of pcmcia-cs (MDK 8.2 ships with .31) and install it.  Big mistake.
I configured, made, and installed, and now (after rebooting) lsmod
doesn't report any pcmcia modules loaded, and nothing pcmcia-related
works[1].  Given that installation rewrites a ton of files, I'm now
looking at a tedious and frustrating debugging process to have even a
hope of finding out what the installer broke.  Shouldn't this have
Just Worked?  [I configured w/the defaults, meaning it installed 32-bit
mode (this card is 32-bit), did -not- install PnP, used the running
kernel as its source of options, etc.]

What -should- I have done, and what should I do now?  Other things on
the web seem to imply that there shouldn't have been any problem with
a 3Com 575 card, but neither the installer images nor the running
system noticed it.  What gives?

And right now, of course, my laptop has no working network at all.
I was paranoid and tarred up copies of / and /usr before I installed
pcmcia, though restoring them will be painful (since no doubt I only
want to bash certain parts of / and /usr to restore PCMCIA at least
to the state it was in before[2]).  I -could- just give up and reinstall
the entire OS (that installation partition is still there); I wonder
if that would be simpler.  But neither of these will, by themselves,
get non-wireless PCMCIA operation working; what will?

More details (various outputs from what I did, etc) available if
someone thinks they'll help; I'm not including them here because
they'd just bloat the message---and because I'll have to copy them
to the laptop's windows partition and reboot just to get them off
the machine...

[1] ...but lsmod now reports a whole pile more sound-related modules! 
It had a couple before; now there are something like 10 lines of 'em.
Since I haven't had a chance to get any sounds onto the machine, I
haven't tested sound, either before my attempted reinstallation of
pcmcia, or now; that will come after I get the network functional.
Anyone have any idea what's going on here?  [Ordinary beeping worked
before and after, but I presume that's independent of all these kernel
sound modules.]  /var/log/messages had been reporting a whole bunch of
sound-related complaints (before my pcmcia reinstall), but I haven't
(yet) pursued them.  But I'm puzzled why lsmod suddenly shows a whole
bunch more, since sound doesn't use pcmcia; perhaps it was the depmod
that the pcmcia installation ran?  Shouldn't the MDK installer have
done the right thing here when I first installed MDK 8.2?

[2] Running find / -mmin -120 -o -cmin -120 -ls finds suspiciously
few modified files (even though I ran it 10 minutes after the
installation); it pretty much finds only stuff in /dev,
/var/log/ksyms*, /lib/dev-state/* (???), and /etc/pcmcia/*.0
(about 5 files there; I think these might have been backed-up
copies of my original options).  But I'd have thought I'd have
seen some -new- files somewhere...  so I'm suspicious that my
find isn't finding places in the filesystem I may need to restore
from those tarfiles I made...



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[expert] video problems in 8.2

2002-04-30 Thread mike

Hi all,

just tried to install 8.2 and on two different machines,

athlon 1.0 ghz epox 8kta3 pro mb with ati 3d rageIIc 8mg agp card

and 200mmx intel with s3 trio 4mg video card

both have a presario 1500 monitor ( trinitron tube ) 

on the regular settings of 1024x768 24 and 16 bit using generic
non-interlaced SVGA 1024x768 at 60 Hz 800x600 at 72 Hz ( which I used
with both 7.2 and 8.0 just fine ) ,

it will look stable for a minute or two then the screen goes blank for a
few seconds then back on /off /on / etc. 

may be the monitor but don't know how to correct this problem.

I really would like to run 8.2 but can't change both monitors out at
this time.

Any suggestions or known fixes ??? 

can I run a different version of Xfree86 , like the 4.0.3 patch level 7
Like I run in 8.0 ? 

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[expert] gnome-games packaging

2002-04-30 Thread David Relson

Greetings,

There seems to be a problem with the packaging of gnome-games.  If I 
install gnome-games-1.4.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm on a system without it, then 
verify (via rpm -V gnome-games), rpm.verify complains of approx 25 
missing score files for glines, gnobots2, gnotski, and mahjongg.

Below is the output from erasing the package, then installing it, then 
verifying it.

David

*** begin session output ***

[root@osage RPMS]# rpm -e gnome-games
You have new mail in /var/spool/mail/relson
[root@osage RPMS]# rpm -ivh  gnome-games-1.4.0.3-6mdk.i586.rpm ; rpm -V 
gnome-games
Preparing...### [100%]
1:gnome-games### [100%]
missing/var/lib/games/glines.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnobots2.classic_robots-super-safe.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnobots2.nightmare-super-safe.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnobots2.robots2-super-safe.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnobots2.robots2_easy-super-safe.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnobots2.robots_with_safe_teleport-super-safe.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.1.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.11.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.12.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.13.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.14.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.15.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.16.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.17.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.2.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.21.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.22.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.23.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.24.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.25.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.26.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.3.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.4.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.5.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.6.scores
missing/var/lib/games/gnotski.7.scores
missing/var/lib/games/mahjongg.difficult.scores
missing/var/lib/games/mahjongg.easy.scores




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Re: [expert] locate not working

2002-04-30 Thread Payal

Hi all,
I have read-write access for all users on windows partitions. I have the
locate problem for root as well as all user.
What must be the problem?
Thanks and bye.
-Payal
It may be the newer security settings. Do you have the same problem if
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Re: [expert] Linux for Kids

2002-04-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 21:20, daRcmaTTeR wrote:

 
  Join the EFF.  Listen to talk radio.  Stay in touch.
 
 LX,
 
 what was the secret vote called? I think i'd like to contact my senator
 and congressman about this and find out about what they're doing behind
 our backs! that REALLY gets under my skin.  ;\
 
Thanks for actually being interested, Darc.  It's refreshing.  I had to
chase this link down to properly answer your question, but I consider it
time well spent for you:

http://www.washtimes.com/national/20020426-496130.htm


Excerpt from article:

_

Senate Democrats yesterday barred the public from a committee meeting
and vote on a land-use bill that opponents believe will impose federal
standards on local zoning boards. This was no accident; this was a
purposeful sham, said Mike Hardiman, spokesman for the American Land
Rights Association, who lined up shortly after 8 a.m. to attend the 9:30
a.m. hearing in the Dirksen Senate Office Building. He said the senators
were trying to pass an indefensible bill in secret. The bill establishes
a federal grant program that would pay to communities 90 percent of the
cost of updating local zoning regulations. The subsidies would go to
municipalities that meet guidelines established under the Clinton
administration to improve environmental policy and avert loss of
community character, terms opponents call code words for
anti-development regulations.
_


I've identified the Washington Times as an information source that I can
trust; it is dependable.  There's alot of hype, bull, and propaganda
debunk in the Washington Times; I recommend it and the editorials
therein to you highly.  :)

Something else I suggest is to download Realplayer and listen to G.
Gordon, Neal Boortz, and others on the following links:

http://mediaframe.yahoo.com/ap?id=78153903

(Realplayer only.  The above is WTAW out of College Station, Texas.)


Here is a link that will be useful, but only if you have Windows
Mediaplayer version 6 running under Transgaming Wine, OR if you have
been able to get Avi4Xmms and Xmms to work together (which I have not,
as of yet.)  This is 99.7 WTN out of Tennessee.

http://mmslb.eonstreams.com/wtnfm1.asf


I've been working to try to get Xmms to accept WindowsMedia ASF streams,
but I havent produced results as of yet.  Therefore I've been reduced to
listening to realplayer streams only.  But I'm still working on it.


Best Regards,

LX



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Re: [expert] it is the existential blues

2002-04-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir

On Mon, 2002-04-29 at 16:54, J. Craig Woods wrote:

 Yep, I'm just a complete empiricist when it comes to digital reality, 
 and any other form of reality...
 
 Dr John
 The Night Tripper

Amen!


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