RE: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
There are presently 180 9.0-update RPMs.I would have installed about one third, so you must see that I would not be prepared to conduct the enormous amount of research to find out which, and then possibly to discover it is not one but some combination. That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? It is...YES. BUT, if you know Linux, there are NO TWO LINUX BOXES THE SAME, including installations. An installation one day can be different the nexttrust me, i have had this happen. Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. I agree, i have NOT had any problems with any of the updates at all. I have only had a minor issue with gurpmi that was on the newbie list in Jan and is fixed, then again after i got it fixed i reinstalled since i updated/installed too many PLF progs. Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Franki wrote: there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least trying... don't know of any other... Thanks, but apache is not installed in any of the Mandrake partitions on either of the two machines involved. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: On Sun Feb 02, 2003 at 11:01:34AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas? Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. I did tell you some. It's difficult because I fix each up only as it pops up during my work - which interrupts my work. Here's a partial recap. Probably more to come as I recall them. The harware is beautifullfy sound, both before, after, and during. Gateway machine is heavily firewalled. Other machine is on a LAN from the gateway machine. 1. KDE 3.0 panel had most of its icons changed to gearwheels. 2. KDE menu abbreviated - no Terminals or File tools or Control Centre (which is up all the time on its own desktop for managing printer jobs). 3. Mozilla printing just quit with no message.Required rpm -e on all the mozilla RPMs and reinstall. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. Alas! My reply was inadvertenly attached to James Sparenburgs's message below. My apologies. All Linux partitions on both machines worked perfectly for about 6 months after expert installation. Then these problems started appearing on 3 of the partitions. Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Sun, 2 Feb 2003 05:43 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: J.P. Pasnak wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On February 1, 2003 14:52 pm, Mark Weaver wrote: Damian Gatabria wrote: Only thing I'm left wondering is what happened to the cute little mouse arrow that previously had a shadow and was much softer in appearance. Now it appears as the regular old dull cursor arrow. Whats up with that? :) I may be wrong, but AFAIK the pretty cursor was reported as a bug because it's dropshadow was confusing.. Damian Man! I loved that little thing. how do I get it back? If you want to change it on a per-user basis, create an '.Xdefaults' file in your home directory and add the following lines: --- Xcursor.size: 16 Xcursor.theme: whiteglass --- JP, You're my hero! thanks man...now ALL is right with the world again. :) it doesn't work for me :( i put those lines at the end of my already-existing ~/.Xdefaults, logged out and logged back into kde. but i don't get anything other than the usual dull black cursor with a white outline. using kde3.0.3, mdk9, xfree 4.2.1. what could be wrong? i desparately want a cool cursor! :-) - Will __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] PHP 4.3.0 and GetText support?
Just installed PHP 4.3.0 and Apache 1.3.27 and found out that Horde/Imp dies because there is no gettext support in 4.3.0? I confirmed that with PHP 4.2.3 I had php-gettext installed, but not anymore... I'd really like to get the support. -- Seppo Jarvinen , [EMAIL PROTECTED]Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. GSM+SMS +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 8:28 am, Ron Stodden wrote: 3. Mozilla printing just quit with no message.Required rpm -e on all the mozilla RPMs and reinstall. This can happen at any time - it happened to me last week and I had not changed anything so far as I am aware, so it may or may not be relevant. Just my 2p worth. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Monday 03 February 2003 03:40 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. Alas! My reply was inadvertenly attached to James Sparenburgs's message below. My apologies. All Linux partitions on both machines worked perfectly for about 6 months after expert installation. Then these problems started appearing on 3 of the partitions. Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. I had two Mandrake Linux systems fail with disk in a horrible state in the past six months. Both were SiS AMD boards, the last a K7S6A (SiS745). Both hard disks came back to life with a low level format (One an IBM ATA 100 40GB drive, the other a Maxtor). I replaced the motherboard in the first system and have used it as a developoment machine/workstation for months without incident. The second system I reloaded with (gasp!) W2K which appeared to go well but within a week started acting flaky. Software installations failed, and simple tasks like burning CDs showed instability in disk throughput (fluctuating) buffer levels). After replacing the motherboard in the second system with a VIA chipset board (MS6378), the system appears to be rock solid. I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. Jim Tarvid Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. I think this bears more investigation. I have a feeling that motherboard based problems have increased recently, and wonder if there is any correlation with the increased weight of heat sinks and fans required for high powered processors, and the inevitable extra strain on the supporting mobo. Seems to me that since mobos normally stand upright these days the strain must be great. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. I think this bears more investigation. I have a feeling that motherboard based problems have increased recently, and wonder if there is any correlation with the increased weight of heat sinks and fans required for high powered processors, and the inevitable extra strain on the supporting mobo. Seems to me that since mobos normally stand upright these days the strain must be great. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I have a starimpress presentation that I must save as a powerpoint presentation. Trying to do so from either staroffice 6.0 or OO 1.0.1 fails with a beep and a General error input/output error. Is there some limitation/issue with these packages with regards to saving to powerpoint? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PmXt1i/6R1B/Yh0RApkZAKCYhztmnsana14SMrzcq8RfD1ropwCfSfwX CWa8vRZdQZiAtG78NCwQIzI= =D8i4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
with a beep and a General error input/output error. You are not trying to save on a fat32 partition, are you ? Apart from the fact that soffice won't read those, I had weird problems with nfs and MS formats. I could save as staroffice/openoffice own formats on nfs, but got systematic crashes when trying to write a ppt or xls formated file on nfs. No clue why. Thomas. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wishes for Mandrake and 9.1
On Monday 03 February 2003 01:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: BTW how is win2000 never tried it (seriously) let me tell you about a OS that bites... I run a SMP box, (p3 1000s) that is sweet with Mandrake SMP, and I used to show people how much slower winME was on the same box, (knowing full well win ME only saw the one CPU),, well when i got a gift of win2000pro, I installed it as a tripple boot, and let me tell you,, in spite of W2k noticeing the second CPU, it is a bigger dog than win ME as far as getting things done multitasking. in Mandrake, I have no noticable slow down to burn a cd, download an ISO, use the ViaVoice and dictate a letter and allow the printer to be used from a differnet computer on the lan, as well as have about a dozen winows in Konq and six in Galeon. as well as backup the hard drive to a different computer. in win 2k burning a cd is about all it can do at one time. I used to see if I could do so many things that the box would slow down, but I have given that up in Mandrake, I just don't see a slowdown. in win ME I can burn a cd and surf the web at the same time, just can't burn a cd and render a video at the same time, but in Mandreake, while the render may take a little longer, there is none of the mouse freezing that win2k cann't get past. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:45 pm, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. They look good value for systems that are not overstretched. However, a 933 processor is acceptable at this moment, but probably not enough for many newer games (I don't play them, so I'm guessing), the on-board video probably has the same limitation, and I don't think I could be satisfied with the AC97 sound either. I think this is a case of horses for courses. OTOH, if I'm right, then some mobos may prove more rigid than others and less prone to the problem. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 06:45 -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. I'd really like to see 9.1 dealing with this hardware on the VIA ITX. Specs of the EPIA M9000 (that's the one with the included 933 cpu), offered in Germany by www.alternate.de for 189 EURO (around $205): - VIA C3 cpu 933 MHz - RAM up to 1024M (DDR, PC-200, PC-266) - Graphics: VIA CastleRock AGP (up to 64M shared memory) - Sound: VIA VT1616 6-channel AC97 Codec - NIC: VIA VT6103 10/100 Mbit USB 2.0, Firewire, 2x IDE (166), and all the rest. This may amount to a complete system with a 80G harddisk, DVD/CD-RW and floppy drive and 512M RAM to approx EURO 550-600 ($600-650). Sorry, I forgot the case, some $50 more. That's the cheapest you can get with these specs. Of course it's a very cheap way to upgrade an older 400MHz system which you can canibalize for harddisk, DVD, DC-RW, floppy and case. Anybody got that mobo already? wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 08:08 am, Thomas Sourmail wrote: with a beep and a General error input/output error. You are not trying to save on a fat32 partition, are you ? Apart from the fact that soffice won't read those, I had weird problems with nfs and MS formats. I could save as staroffice/openoffice own formats on nfs, but got systematic crashes when trying to write a ppt or xls formated file on nfs. No clue why. I am merely trying to save the file to my local XFS partition. I am also having problems saving it to ReiserFS. It doesn't even TRY to save, the error is instantaneous with hitting save as powerpoint. No errors show up on the CLI if I start either OO or SO from the CLI. - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Pm+b1i/6R1B/Yh0RAtErAKCOTy0Rvj4MEz2p1B9CNf/Ywj/8EgCfdwbM d2DQor9iWgPPhNDCNvKr+QQ= =2WaA -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. I have a starimpress presentation that I must save as a powerpoint presentation. Trying to do so from either staroffice 6.0 or OO 1.0.1 fails with a beep and a General error input/output error. Is there some limitation/issue with these packages with regards to saving to powerpoint? praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PmXt1i/6R1B/Yh0RApkZAKCYhztmnsana14SMrzcq8RfD1ropwCfSfwX CWa8vRZdQZiAtG78NCwQIzI= =D8i4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:03 -0500, et wrote: try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. Send it to me too, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
more likely it may be you are attempting to run at your hard drives faster speeds than the MObo, chipset and drives can stand and they are getting noise and chatter and EMF On Monday 03 February 2003 07:31 am, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. I think this bears more investigation. I have a feeling that motherboard based problems have increased recently, and wonder if there is any correlation with the increased weight of heat sinks and fans required for high powered processors, and the inevitable extra strain on the supporting mobo. Seems to me that since mobos normally stand upright these days the strain must be great. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Beta 3 first impressions
Computer: Pentium III 800 MHz, 256Mb Ram, Nvidia Geforce 4, two hd, installation in hdb13 (rest of hdb for Mandrake 9.0; hda for windows (two partitions) and two additional partitions for linux (/otros and /pelis); hdc=LG CDRW 48x, hdd=dvd hitachi, usb printer (epson stylus color 760), parallel printer (HPLaserJet 4L), usb scanner (epson perfection 1200U), tv: avemediatv, ps2 weel mouse Installation: Well, finally you can select packages; mouse configuration fine, not start mbr installtion if you won't it.. ^_^; but... - Not footmatic rpm (not printers installed); in fact the rpms were in the cd 1 and the cd introduced was cd 3. - No automatic start installation of net, graphic card, time zone. BTW, very good idea install ntp at this moment selecting a server to update automatically the hour - Cable modem: not well installed; eth1 activated but net unreachable. To run it I had to: a) run dhcpclient (a problem because now the bash login appears in this way: x1-6-00-60-08-36-91-C8-login) After that I have, after network restart, network accesible (for example ping ... runing) but not internet. b) edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and add the ips of the dns servers (nameserver ..). But still not runing after restart network. c) Still necessary to install the old inistcripts of 9.0 (--force --nodeps) to have internet accesible. - Supermount was dissabled by default. - After the first star, I been able to install printers, cups, footmatic and other packages weren't installed, so it takes a long time, but it runs. - Scannerdrake not runing from Mandrake Control Center (MCC is a bit ugly, perhaps the translation to gtk2 is still not completed) but runs from a console; nevertheless it couldn't configure my epson perfection 1200U that xsane recognize :-(; I do it by hand and it is runing fine. - The geforce 4 general module of XFree86 4.2.99 still not runing fine; I had to change it for a vesa generic and now it is runing well, but, of course, not dri activated (acceleration). - Openoffice still not runing, Abort Error:-( :-( This is all for now; this morning I'll done more test. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake, Konsole and GNU screen xterm -
Hi All, Anyone else have this problem? If I run 'screen' inside Konsole during an xterm session (either locally or connected via SSH) the Konsole scrollback locks? The only way to move backward through history is through screen's clunky commands. Any ideas to get around this? I've found that the scrollback works if I use ANSI instead of xterm, but raises some other issues related to delete/backspace ^?/^H. Thank you. Regards, Mick Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
it doesn't work for me :( i put those lines at the end of my already-existing ~/.Xdefaults, logged out and logged back into kde. but i don't get anything other than the usual dull black cursor with a white outline. using kde3.0.3, mdk9, xfree 4.2.1. what could be wrong? i desparately want a cool cursor! :-) - Will You need the latest release of X. Maybe you can get the SRPMS off Cooker and rebuild them for your machine. Damian -- -- I don't want Windows to be only for the 31173. Yes, we've come a long way from all those security holes, virii, and cryptic commands like Edit textfile.txt (what in the hell is that supposed to mean?) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Beta 3 first impressions
I had also some of those problems, eg. Timezone,printers,ISDN (but DSL was configured and works).- Upto now I could not install any printer (I have LaserJet6P, HP Deskjet990c and HP OfficeJet V40). They all are recognized, I can configure them but then an error like 'add-printer fails' comes. drakconf can not be started. There comes an error that something like 'gtk2-perl is missing'. I did not figure out what exactly is missing/wrong. On Monday 03 February 2003 16:27, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Computer: Pentium III 800 MHz, 256Mb Ram, Nvidia Geforce 4, two hd, installation in hdb13 (rest of hdb for Mandrake 9.0; hda for windows (two partitions) and two additional partitions for linux (/otros and /pelis); hdc=LG CDRW 48x, hdd=dvd hitachi, usb printer (epson stylus color 760), parallel printer (HPLaserJet 4L), usb scanner (epson perfection 1200U), tv: avemediatv, ps2 weel mouse Installation: Well, finally you can select packages; mouse configuration fine, not start mbr installtion if you won't it.. ^_^; but... - Not footmatic rpm (not printers installed); in fact the rpms were in the cd 1 and the cd introduced was cd 3. - No automatic start installation of net, graphic card, time zone. BTW, very good idea install ntp at this moment selecting a server to update automatically the hour - Cable modem: not well installed; eth1 activated but net unreachable. To run it I had to: a) run dhcpclient (a problem because now the bash login appears in this way: x1-6-00-60-08-36-91-C8-login) After that I have, after network restart, network accesible (for example ping ... runing) but not internet. b) edit the /etc/resolv.conf file and add the ips of the dns servers (nameserver ..). But still not runing after restart network. c) Still necessary to install the old inistcripts of 9.0 (--force --nodeps) to have internet accesible. - Supermount was dissabled by default. - After the first star, I been able to install printers, cups, footmatic and other packages weren't installed, so it takes a long time, but it runs. How did you install printers?? - Scannerdrake not runing from Mandrake Control Center (MCC is a bit ugly, perhaps the translation to gtk2 is still not completed) but runs from a console; nevertheless it couldn't configure my epson perfection 1200U that xsane recognize :-(; I do it by hand and it is runing fine. - The geforce 4 general module of XFree86 4.2.99 still not runing fine; I had to change it for a vesa generic and now it is runing well, but, of course, not dri activated (acceleration). - Openoffice still not runing, Abort Error:-( :-( This is all for now; this morning I'll done more test. Francisco Alcaraz Murcia (Spain) W. Kasberg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] PHP 4.3.0 and GetText support?
Check the php.net site. If this is included in their version it's a MDK bug, if not Then it may have been left out by oversite, or it may have a bug they can't/haven't fixed. Seems to me though that if they left it out they should have included a work around for the problem. James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 03:53, Seppo Järvinen wrote: Just installed PHP 4.3.0 and Apache 1.3.27 and found out that Horde/Imp dies because there is no gettext support in 4.3.0? I confirmed that with PHP 4.2.3 I had php-gettext installed, but not anymore... I'd really like to get the support. -- Seppo Jarvinen , [EMAIL PROTECTED]Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. GSM+SMS +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Samba hide . prefixed dirs?
Hi, Its a trivial question, but i cant find the answer, could someone tell me how to hide . prefixed dirs in samba please? I remember seeing an option in smb.conf but I can see it in the mdk9 version. Regards JG Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wishes for Mandrake and 9.1
On Monday 03 February 2003 04:13 am, et wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 01:29 am, James Sparenberg wrote: BTW how is win2000 never tried it (seriously) let me tell you about a OS that bites... I run a SMP box, (p3 1000s) that is sweet with Mandrake SMP, and I used to show people how much slower winME was on the same box, (knowing full well win ME only saw the one CPU),, well when i got a gift of win2000pro, I installed it as a tripple boot, and let me tell you,, in spite of W2k noticeing the second CPU, it is a bigger dog than win ME as far as getting things done multitasking. in Mandrake, I have no noticable slow down to burn a cd, download an ISO, use the ViaVoice and dictate a letter and allow the printer to be used from a differnet computer on the lan, as well as have about a dozen winows in Konq and six in Galeon. as well as backup the hard drive to a different computer. in win 2k burning a cd is about all it can do at one time. I used to see if I could do so many things that the box would slow down, but I have given that up in Mandrake, I just don't see a slowdown. in win ME I can burn a cd and surf the web at the same time, just can't burn a cd and render a video at the same time, but in Mandreake, while the render may take a little longer, there is none of the mouse freezing that win2k cann't get past. LOL Well I help out in a local Computer Renaissance, mostly installing mandrakeLinux for the customers that want linux. I had a media-vs-drive problem so asked then to dup one of my CDs on their win2K server. They did and it was a TOTAL blank. I showed them that and they rebooted the server and burned again (perfect, and it worked on the target system). Then the tech rebooted the win2K server again. I asked about that and he said that it is their standard practice to reboot after every burn. I had a mandrake box with me, with a 40x12x48 CDRW and a very pedestrian SiS 630 chipset with a 1G Celeron and 256M Memory. I started burning a CD, then added an edit of a big text file (with OpenOffice) and configuring the machine to connect to the internet through their LAN with MCC and finishing with a dictionary search using Kdict The techs were impressed, cause their much heavier P4 based server could only burn a CD and could not complete any configuration while it was burning. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. James PS someone mentioned trouble saving to an NFS partition. Linux doesn't (by default) write to NFS, because if you do try it. 50-50 chance of corruption. On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 06:09, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:03 -0500, et wrote: try sending the starimpress presentation to me off list... let's see if the same thing happens here.. Send it to me too, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am not real strong on statistics. I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have. I need help fast. Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I would be eternally grateful. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Pq4Q1i/6R1B/Yh0RAgCoAJ4hCcGBWR6DedWgP3+vXs46OogbygCgjgqf gYfORsT2aAJdY1hBce8kBmE= =lI8t -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Samba hide . prefixed dirs?
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 5:53 pm, J. Grant wrote: Hi, Its a trivial question, but i cant find the answer, could someone tell me how to hide . prefixed dirs in samba please? I remember seeing an option in smb.conf but I can see it in the mdk9 version. If you mean you don't want them seen on the windows box, it's the show hidden files setting in windows explorer. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
RE: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Rob, Beautiful little board isn't it. I've got one I'm repairing (actually it's chassis I broke a wheel.) I installed it in a 1/10th scale car body . It's solid low noise and does anything you want except maybe hardcore gaming. LOVE IT! James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 04:45, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. Rob -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Anne Wilson Sent: Monday, February 03, 2003 6:32 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!! On Monday 03 Feb 2003 12:27 pm, tarvid wrote: I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. I think this bears more investigation. I have a feeling that motherboard based problems have increased recently, and wonder if there is any correlation with the increased weight of heat sinks and fans required for high powered processors, and the inevitable extra strain on the supporting mobo. Seems to me that since mobos normally stand upright these days the strain must be great. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Wishes for Mandrake and 9.1
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 08:56 -0900, civileme wrote: I had a mandrake box with me, with a 40x12x48 CDRW and a very pedestrian SiS 630 chipset with a 1G Celeron and 256M Memory. I started burning a CD, then added an edit of a big text file (with OpenOffice) and configuring the machine to connect to the internet through their LAN with MCC and finishing with a dictionary search using Kdict The techs were impressed, cause their much heavier P4 based server could only burn a CD and could not complete any configuration while it was burning. Civileme Yeah, it's very easy to impress those guys with standard Linux behaviour. You should have let them watch a small video (saved on your hd) at the same time and they'd talk about that for months. eg wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Wobo, I've had it in the previos form. (800mhz version) for about 6 months. Not even a hiccup. Just gotta view the 9.0 errata for the install trick Only hiccup I've had is that the cdrom drive I bought doesn't like XP disks (I tried everything) Which to me just means it's a quality cdrom drive.*grin*.. James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 05:24, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 06:45 -0600, Robert Wideman wrote: Then let all go with the new VIA ITX MB's and we will all be fine. FYI, 933mhz embedded proc with everything included (www.viatech.com) is $120 on pricewatch.com...complete system for less than $400. I'd really like to see 9.1 dealing with this hardware on the VIA ITX. Specs of the EPIA M9000 (that's the one with the included 933 cpu), offered in Germany by www.alternate.de for 189 EURO (around $205): - VIA C3 cpu 933 MHz - RAM up to 1024M (DDR, PC-200, PC-266) - Graphics: VIA CastleRock AGP (up to 64M shared memory) - Sound: VIA VT1616 6-channel AC97 Codec - NIC: VIA VT6103 10/100 Mbit USB 2.0, Firewire, 2x IDE (166), and all the rest. This may amount to a complete system with a 80G harddisk, DVD/CD-RW and floppy drive and 512M RAM to approx EURO 550-600 ($600-650). Sorry, I forgot the case, some $50 more. That's the cheapest you can get with these specs. Of course it's a very cheap way to upgrade an older 400MHz system which you can canibalize for harddisk, DVD, DC-RW, floppy and case. Anybody got that mobo already? wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:57 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. Tried the option with opening it in SO6 and without starting the presentation trying to save as PowerPoint. Error! There is only one defined user (apart from the usual crowd: root, news, nobody, etc.) and the original file as well as the tearget directory are both in this user's home. All I tried so far resulted in the same error as the original poster described. I created another presentation with exactly the same amount of slides and a lot of images (no meaningful contents just a dummy file) and had no trouble to save it as PowerPoint file. Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. On Monday 03 February 2003 01:20 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 09:57 -0800, James Sparenberg wrote: Pradeor, Had a real PowderPoint file I edited and tried to save about 6 months ago, To get it to save I had to first save it in Star Office's format. Then close the file Open it and then I could save it as a power point, I don't know why it did this. I've never been able to repeat it. It just did. The only other thing I can think of is that SO is opened under user A and user B is the owner of the directory. (I've done this a number of times) SO doesn't give good error messages in this case and the results you are getting are the same as in the case I mentioned. Tried the option with opening it in SO6 and without starting the presentation trying to save as PowerPoint. Error! There is only one defined user (apart from the usual crowd: root, news, nobody, etc.) and the original file as well as the tearget directory are both in this user's home. All I tried so far resulted in the same error as the original poster described. I created another presentation with exactly the same amount of slides and a lot of images (no meaningful contents just a dummy file) and had no trouble to save it as PowerPoint file. Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. praedor - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PrkH1i/6R1B/Yh0RApnfAJ9+MQLjnuGq5OYteUGUPduiB5aZ7wCZAUE8 +BkCB5WGeb0v0LtLXDwg2nQ= =G4oM -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 03:37:37PM +0800, Franki wrote:
there was one with apache getting loaded with apache 2 updates.. or at least
trying...
don't know of any other...
apache2 is not in updates.
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Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 13:45 -0500, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Just what I expected: On Monday 03 February 2003 01:20 pm, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: Must be something in the file. Strange! wobo wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
On Monday 03 Feb 2003 6:46 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. This sounds suspiciously like the problems I've had with some .sxw files. After a lot of help from et and others I gave up, thinking it couldn't be solved. Then I went onto Sun's website and discovered that there is a patch, a sort of service pack 2. I installed it; a lot of bits said they could not install, but looking over the docs that come with it I think they were concerned with asian fonts, which I don't have. The upshot is, I think the bug fixes that are in there have cured my problem. The files that I believed to be corrupted beyond recovery now open and can be used with ease. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:28:18PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
That's inescapably Mandrake's job. N'est ce pas?
Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and
with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can
we fix it? You presume too much.
Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates
applied, are rock solid.
I did tell you some. It's difficult because I fix each up only as it
pops up
during my work - which interrupts my work.
I don't recall seeing any problems that were not user-driven.
Here's a partial recap. Probably more to come as I recall them.
The harware is beautifullfy sound, both before, after, and during.
Gateway machine is heavily firewalled. Other machine is on a LAN
from the gateway machine.
1. KDE 3.0 panel had most of its icons changed to gearwheels.
2. KDE menu abbreviated - no Terminals or File tools or Control Centre
(which is up all the time on its own desktop for managing printer jobs).
This was with the KDE 3.0.5a updates? I didn't experience this. Did
you send a message to Laurent asking about this? He built those
updates.
3. Mozilla printing just quit with no message.Required rpm -e on all
the mozilla RPMs and reinstall.
I've never seen this one before. Mozilla isn't in updates either.
Could have been cups or printer-drivers, but did you stop/start the
cups daemon and possibly closed/opened mozilla to refresh the printer
listings? Or did you do the install, with mozilla open, found you
couldn't print, and then did the rpm -e/rpm -ivh combo?
If this is all you have, your definition of clobbered and mine are
extremely different. To me, clobbered means making it unreliable
and/or completely unuseable. The first two issues, to me, are
cosmetic... certainly nothing to force a reinstall (although, again,
this is the first I've heard of that problem). The second is a
nuisance, but since it worked fine over here, I'm wondering how you
went about it, whether you did do the start/stop of your apps or
whether you followed the scenario above.
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Re: [expert] PHP 4.3.0 and GetText support?
From php-4.3.0 config line (phpinfo()) --enable-gettext=/usr , but it misses --with-gettext, and there is no external module (yet). On 3 Feb 2003, James Sparenberg wrote: Check the php.net site. If this is included in their version it's a MDK bug, if not Then it may have been left out by oversite, or it may have a bug they can't/haven't fixed. Seems to me though that if they left it out they should have included a work around for the problem. James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 03:53, Seppo Järvinen wrote: Just installed PHP 4.3.0 and Apache 1.3.27 and found out that Horde/Imp dies because there is no gettext support in 4.3.0? I confirmed that with PHP 4.2.3 I had php-gettext installed, but not anymore... I'd really like to get the support. -- Seppo Jarvinen , [EMAIL PROTECTED]Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. GSM+SMS +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Seppo Jarvinen , [EMAIL PROTECTED]Never trust an operating system you don't have sources for. GSM+SMS +358 40 568 1756 You never know what you're facing Power the World, With Linux! unless you dare to LOOK AT IT. Technology lies on the leading edge Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and
with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can
we fix it? You presume too much.
Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates
applied, are rock solid.
Alas! My reply was inadvertenly attached to James Sparenburgs's
message below. My apologies.
All Linux partitions on both machines worked perfectly for about 6
months after
expert installation. Then these problems started appearing on 3 of the
partitions.
The KDE issues and the mozilla printing? Or was there more?
Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with
Windows 98
(but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with
the Mandrake installer.
The installer goes with the packages it's given... it doesn't install
something and go hey wait a minute and intelligently fix your problem
for you. Unless you're referring to another issue beyond the KDE
cosmetics and mozilla printing, I'm not sure why you think DrakX has
anything to do with it.
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[expert] ProFTPd
Hi, Now, I'm trying to build ftp server with ProFTPd. I want my ftp server only can be accessed by anonymous user from my local network. My ftp server has 10.0.0.1 as IP add. Please help me configuring it. thanks in advance, Ivo. _ Get 25MB, POP3, Spam Filtering with LYCOS MAIL PLUS for $19.95/year. http://login.mail.lycos.com/brandPage.shtml?pageId=plusref=lmtplus Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:59, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am not real strong on statistics. I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have. I need help fast. Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I would be eternally grateful. How is this even remotely related to Mandrake Linux? Why are you wasting everyone's resources for unrelated math questions that you could likely answer yourself with five minutes of effort searching google? Seth Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thank you for the help...NOT. In any case, the OT DOES provide warning that it isn't ON TOPIC and you can read at your own risk. It sure beats the other OT thread on the list the other day. Be thankful. On Monday 03 February 2003 03:44 pm, Seth Zirin wrote: On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 09:59, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am not real strong on statistics. I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have. I need help fast. Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I would be eternally grateful. How is this even remotely related to Mandrake Linux? Why are you wasting everyone's resources for unrelated math questions that you could likely answer yourself with five minutes of effort searching google? Seth - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PtZc1i/6R1B/Yh0RApEgAJ9C2Ho2mN/A9x2HIjpF69AFfJIkGgCgkTRa VCnsCOBzmtdd2VK0NBTDLmU= =iiQI -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Seth will be pleased to know I did acquire an answer by aid from this list, no less, which led me to a website which led me to a PERSON who was able to help me out with my specific situation. Thanks to those who did offer aid in various forms. On Monday 03 February 2003 04:07 pm, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 3 Feb 2003, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: I REALLY need some fast help with a simple statistics question but I am not real strong on statistics. I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have. I need help fast. Anyone with knowledge about this who can help me...I would be eternally grateful. I'm familiar with it in the sense that I've given a couple statistics lectures concerning R (http://www.r-project.org/) and Linux (see, you're somewhat on topic after all). Fisher's exact is, of course, a correlation test and its applicability depends entirely on your data set and what you're trying to accomplish. - -- Conservatives of all times are adventitious liars. - - Friedrich Nietzsche. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Ptii1i/6R1B/Yh0RAts9AJ9uzJ3fh4KnFcGDNky3W2rkvr4P3gCggHW5 qZfPFVS+sCo4Rqpk0RfwBA0= =8p5f -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote on Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:51:40PM -0500 : Thank you for the help...NOT. In any case, the OT DOES provide warning that it isn't ON TOPIC and you can read at your own risk. It's also a flag to list owners that the user is abusing the purpose and intent of said list. It sure beats the other OT thread on the list the other day. Be thankful. Please don't post OT posts. Be a leader, not a follower. Blue skies... Todd - -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+PtnClp7v05cW2woRAhdOAJ9Px/AZfGLQQNgnFnIkNQD180V6BwCggeJN IXOa1HQT5ltZBCSQ4W0swN0= =xw/e -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
I have a question regarding Fisher's exact: is it a legitimate test to run on a particular set of data I have. No statistical test is legitimate in the hands of the inexperienced. No statistical test is legimate in the hands of the experienced when they have an agenda. Mark Twain said there are three kinds of lies - Lies, damned lies and statistics. It is also why the bottom of my business card used to read Numerical Advocate rather than statistician. Lest anybody challenge this as off-topic, there is a wonderful package - 'R' and a somewhat harder to find pspp both of which have endless tests to a amuse and befuddle and both of which run on mandrake. My advice, run every test you can find, smile non-chalantly, and pass the burden of legitimacy on to the consumer. Jim Tarvid PS. I really enjoyed the non US contributions to the thread on nature and character of President Bush and his fatal attraction with Saddam Hussein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert]
Hello expert, I have MDK 9.0 installed on hda, and Xandros on hdb. The Xandros boot loader detects MDK partition fine, and give me choice of which too boot. My question is, if i want to upgrade to a 9.x, how can i do it, without disturbing my boot loader? I tried to do it, with this MDK 9,.0, but it overwrote my boot loader anyway:(. -- Best regards, hihorsenews mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mozilla and Netscape Profiles
I installed Netscape 7 as root, creating a profile in the process. If I navigate to the appropriate directory to start Nscp7 as root I get the profile manager and can access that profile. If I start Nscp7 as a user it shares my Mozilla profile. This has caused me problems. Trouble is, I can't find where the root Nscp7 profile is stored. I presume if I can find it I can, as root, copy it to my own home directory (?) and change permissions, but although there are .netscape and .netscape6 directories they do not appear to contain the profiles. Can anyone help, please? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. The installer goes with the packages it's given... it doesn't install something and go hey wait a minute and intelligently fix your problem for you. It should restore your system to the same state as when it was originally installed, except for your customisation and data, which it and rpm knows to leave alone. This does imply checksums or backup copies on hand of installed unchanging files.The installer/reinstaller has access to the RPM library used at original installation. My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an important requirement and goal of installer implementation. New arrivals to Mandrake from Windows - near all of us? - expect no less, particularly when no other solution to a randomly clobbered system is offered. Recall that the i86 architecture fails to offer hardware memory block protection that would immediately trap any program's attempt to write-access outside its allocated or shared memory blocks.The CDC 6600 had this implemented, so the technology is nothing new - except to Intel. That's the major reason why i86 architecture is not safe, especially for multiple concurrent users, and not useable for critical missions. It is incredible to me that this obvious requirement seems to have been totally overlooked by Mandrake. which is more evidence that the developers just ignore industry experience and do not appear to actually be using the product in any user-workhorse mode. Unless you're referring to another issue beyond the KDE cosmetics and mozilla printing, I'm not sure why you think DrakX has anything to do with it. Explained above. -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE in 9.0
What is KDE doing all this for when I run kpackage in a terminal? This situation existed long before my recently-reported system clobbering. [root@small ron]# kpackage _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root DCOPServer up and running. kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : Networking/WWW/Mozilla.mail.desktop error stat'ing fd 3: Bad file descriptor [here kpackage was exited. No entry followed the following prompt] [root@small ron]# Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children. kdeinit: Exit. [hang. Here a ^C was necessary]. [root@small ron]# Re: _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root Setting the owner as per above does not stop the message. What service is invalid? What said so? *.desktop is not a service. What file had a bad file descriptor? According to what? What device or resource was busy? Who said so? What was it busy doing? What client was killed? The information that answers these questions was immediately available when the message is being prepared and was deliberately omitted. Why? This is a sick form of agression by the developer against his users. In this parlous state, is 9.0 a viable product? -- Ron [Melbourne, Australia] The problems that we have created as a result of the level of thinking that we have done thus far cannot be solved at the same level of thinking at which we created them. - Albert Einstein. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE in 9.0
so, ron, is there any change in te error mesages if you use su - instead of su? is that the only message, and does kpackage work? does it start at all? On Monday 03 February 2003 06:24 pm, Ron Stodden wrote: What is KDE doing all this for when I run kpackage in a terminal? This situation existed long before my recently-reported system clobbering. [root@small ron]# kpackage _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root DCOPServer up and running. kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : Networking/WWW/Mozilla.mail.desktop error stat'ing fd 3: Bad file descriptor [here kpackage was exited. No entry followed the following prompt] [root@small ron]# Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children. kdeinit: Exit. [hang. Here a ^C was necessary]. [root@small ron]# Re: _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root Setting the owner as per above does not stop the message. What service is invalid? What said so? *.desktop is not a service. What file had a bad file descriptor? According to what? What device or resource was busy? Who said so? What was it busy doing? What client was killed? The information that answers these questions was immediately available when the message is being prepared and was deliberately omitted. Why? This is a sick form of agression by the developer against his users. In this parlous state, is 9.0 a viable product? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] KDE in 9.0
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ron Stodden wrote on Tue, Feb 04, 2003 at 10:24:03AM +1100 : What is KDE doing all this for when I run kpackage in a terminal? This situation existed long before my recently-reported system clobbering. [root@small ron]# kpackage _KDE_IceTransmkdir: Owner of /tmp/.ICE-unix should be set to root DCOPServer up and running. kio (KService*): WARNING: Invalid Service : Networking/WWW/Mozilla.mail.desktop error stat'ing fd 3: Bad file descriptor [here kpackage was exited. No entry followed the following prompt] [root@small ron]# Mutex destroy failure: Device or resource busy kdeinit: Fatal IO error: client killed kdeinit: sending SIGHUP to children. kdeinit: sending SIGTERM to children. kdeinit: Exit. [hang. Here a ^C was necessary]. Not quite. See the prompt above? It had already exited. The messages you see afterward are from kdeinit killing itself and its child processes off. Do it again and instead of hitting Ctrl-C at this point, press Enter and you'll get a prompt as well. strace -v kpackage kpackage.debug 21 grep -A 2 -B 10 Bad file descriptor kpackage.debug You may have to look a bit more than 10 lines above. Use less, search to the point where it has Bad file descriptor then look back towards the top to see what file is attempting to be opened that fails. Blue skies... Todd - -- Never take no as an answer from someone who's not authorized to say yes. --Ben Reser on Cooker ML Mandrake Cooker Devel Version, Kernel 2.4.21pre4-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE+Pv4nlp7v05cW2woRAsneAJ4785XkEZdn96uXgIXWe2PG1pEx0gCgoWds LC6gkovBK1PN1FmBV/gQbVw= =aGnh -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] drakbackup
Hey all, I've been trying to use drakbackup with both cdr's and rw's but I get FATAL: Does not appear to be recordable media! with both. I'm able to burn a disk with cdrecord - just drakbackup fails. Any suggestions? Thanks! Mike -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert]
On Monday 03 February 2003 01:00 pm, hihorsenews wrote: Hello expert, I have MDK 9.0 installed on hda, and Xandros on hdb. The Xandros boot loader detects MDK partition fine, and give me choice of which too boot. My question is, if i want to upgrade to a 9.x, how can i do it, without disturbing my boot loader? I tried to do it, with this MDK 9,.0, but it overwrote my boot loader anyway:(. Just skip bootloader installation and reconfigure your Xandros bootloader for the new kernel and initrd.img Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] OT Important! (to me) Any statisticians in the list?
On Monday 03 February 2003 04:06 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote on Mon, Feb 03, 2003 at 03:51:40PM -0500 Thank you for the help...NOT. In any case, the OT DOES provide warning that it isn't ON TOPIC and you can read at your own risk. It's also a flag to list owners that the user is abusing the purpose and intent of said list. It sure beats the other OT thread on the list the other day. Be thankful. Please don't post OT posts. Be a leader, not a follower. Blue skies... Todd Todd: With all due respect, putting this thread in the same category as that mess last week is a huge leap. For one thing, this hardly a controversial topic. For another, I doubt that I'll be block-deleting great numbers of comments on this thread for the next five or six days before losing my cool. Finally, the posting shows the scope of Mandrake users' usage of Linux. Praedor's error was that he framed his question incorrectly. He should have asked if anyone knew of Linux-based method to evaluate Fisher's exact, since it turned out that one list member had written an article on the subject. Ponder the improbability of that one for a while! -- cmg (who wouldn't know Fisher's exact from Adam's off leg) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] drakbackup
Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NOT USE CDRW media for this either--most of it is 650 and there are MANY supposed CDRW drives which will not work with CDRW media of the more modern flavor or insist on trying to treat all the CDRW media as 700Mb capacity. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] MDK9 with Apache 2 with Load Balancing
What are the options of doing this? MDK9 with Apache 2 with Load Balancing I have 4-Win2k boxes doing this now with IIS but i want to convert it to Linux/BSD or some form there of. Any thoughts? Rob Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] drakbackup
5:42pm, civileme mused: Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NOT USE CDRW media for this either--most of it is 650 and there are MANY supposed CDRW drives which will not work with CDRW media of the more modern flavor or insist on trying to treat all the CDRW media as 700Mb capacity. Civileme Is this something mdk specific or is it just a feature not available to the linux community yet? RW's have been out so long, I just assumed that the technology had been stablized by now. Thanks Civileme! Mike -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 14:54, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 07:40:27PM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote: Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. The installer goes with the packages it's given... it doesn't install something and go hey wait a minute and intelligently fix your problem for you. It should restore your system to the same state as when it was originally installed, except for your customisation and data, which it and rpm knows to leave alone. This does imply checksums or backup copies on hand of installed unchanging files.The installer/reinstaller has access to the RPM library used at original installation. It'd be great if it wold wax my car too -- I mean, I can manage the time to do the coin-op car wash and everything, but it's not the same as a really good hand-buff. My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an important requirement and goal of installer implementation. That may be the intention, but a reinstall of Windows over the same partition has never actually solved a problem for me -- and let me tell you, I've tried more than once :-) New arrivals to Mandrake from Windows - near all of us? - Primarily using Linux since 1998. expect no less, particularly when no other solution to a randomly clobbered system is offered. Recall that the i86 architecture fails to offer hardware memory block protection that would immediately trap any program's attempt to write-access outside its allocated or shared memory blocks.The CDC 6600 had this implemented, so the technology is nothing new - except to Intel. That's the major reason why i86 architecture is not safe, especially for multiple concurrent users, and not useable for critical missions. Let's take a moment to re-evaluate the hardware decisions that we've all made... Anyone using hardware-protected-memory big iron for a desktop or laptop, raise your hand! Personally, I'm gonna trade in my Vaio for an AS/400 (or whatever it's call this week) because it just raises eyebrows when you roll that big black box into a meeting :-) Seriously, the old saying applies here: Unix is user-friendly, it's just picky about who its friends are. If you want it to protect you from screwing up your system and make roll-back of mistakes a perfect and easy one-click operation, come back in five years and it might be there. In the meantime, try something that starts with user experience and then works towards power-usage and cool features instead of the other way around. It is incredible to me that this obvious requirement seems to have been totally overlooked by Mandrake. which is more evidence that the developers just ignore industry experience and do not appear to actually be using the product in any user-workhorse mode. The industry is pretty clear that it accepts Linux on the low-to-mid-range X86 server and may eventually accept it on desktops. Everything else is bleeding edge hackers. Unless you're referring to another issue beyond the KDE cosmetics and mozilla printing, I'm not sure why you think DrakX has anything to do with it. Explained above. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] getting RPM headers
can anyone tell me how to read the headers of the RPMs in Cooker Contrib without having to download the RPMs themselves read them locally? otherwise, how can you tell what the various programs are useful for? if i do have a local RPM, but it's not in the URPMI database, is there any way to read its header ( 'urpmq --header' doesn't help)? -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] KDE and Gnome, working together following RH8
Slashdot posting KDE And Gnome Cooperate On Interface Guidelines GNU is Not UnixPosted by timothy on Monday February 03, @02:35PM from the which-is-smart dept. An anonymous reader submits Competing infrastructures may foster improvement in each desktop, but the Gnome and KDE hackers still know how to work together when needed. The Free *nix desktop has been improving quickly. Red Hat's unified desktop was controversial, but obviously the right decision for regular users. Now that KDE and Gnome have decided to combine their Human Interface Guides, it can be done right--by the developers themselves. Note: they also want to involve 'people working on other non-KDE non-GNOME HIGs.' Update: 02/03 20:19 GMT by T: Apparently not everyone's browser can read http://freedesktop.org, so the initial link up there now sports a www as well. And it's .org -- sorry. ( Read More... | 179 of 251 comments ) - Personally i think KDE is too much like a cartoon, another reason why i wont touch WinXP not to mention MS and security. I love Gnome in MDK9. i just wish some of the apps in KDE were usable in Gnome, then again i havent tried them. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Be a leader, not a follower. OT too, kinda,,,
I would like to thank Mark Weaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] who posted this last weekend, and now has it working for even those of us on Earthlink-mindspring Hi all, Given the amount of traffic and passion related over the last few days concerning things totally off topic where Mandrake Linux is concerned has led me to a place where I'm willing to try an experiment of sorts. I've created a mailing list for anyone here on the newbie and expert lists where they can freely talk about all the off topic stuff they have a need for. The link to sign up is below. http://mdw1982.dyndns.org/mailman/listinfo/mandrakeot If you wish to subscibe by sending a message to the list software you can use the email address below. [EMAIL PROTECTED] The format for the command is as follows, while the subject header is meaningless to the list software. In the body of the message place this information as you see it: subscribe your.password plain [EMAIL PROTECTED] your.password = a password of your choice your.email.addy = your email address. Example subscribe command: subscribe password plain [EMAIL PROTECTED] All are welcome. -- Mark --- Paid for by Penguins against modern appliances(R) Linux User Since 1996 Powered by Mandrake Linux 8.2 9.0 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Disk corruption - was Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Monday 03 February 2003 05:27 am, tarvid wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 03:40 am, Ron Stodden wrote: Vincent Danen wrote: Sure, but everything tested out fine with the secteam, with QA, and with me. Without knowing the symtomd (nevermind the packages), how can we fix it? You presume too much. Tell us what got clobbered. My 9.0 machines, with all updates applied, are rock solid. Alas! My reply was inadvertenly attached to James Sparenburgs's message below. My apologies. All Linux partitions on both machines worked perfectly for about 6 months after expert installation. Then these problems started appearing on 3 of the partitions. Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with Windows 98 (but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem with the Mandrake installer. I had two Mandrake Linux systems fail with disk in a horrible state in the past six months. Both were SiS AMD boards, the last a K7S6A (SiS745). Both hard disks came back to life with a low level format (One an IBM ATA 100 40GB drive, the other a Maxtor). I replaced the motherboard in the first system and have used it as a developoment machine/workstation for months without incident. The second system I reloaded with (gasp!) W2K which appeared to go well but within a week started acting flaky. Software installations failed, and simple tasks like burning CDs showed instability in disk throughput (fluctuating) buffer levels). After replacing the motherboard in the second system with a VIA chipset board (MS6378), the system appears to be rock solid. I am convinced that hardware is a factor in many bug reports. If bug reports included motherboard/CPU/diskdrive we might spot a correlation in a matter of weeks. Hey Jim, I would agree with you on the hardware. Any chance you are using an ATI card? I had an ATI Radeon all in wonder and had all kinds of weird problems. The worst was it would run for a week to 10 days and totally trash my hard drive data. I took back motherboards, drives... until someone suggested I go to Nvidia. Not a single problem since. ?? Jim Tarvid Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Staroffice/openoffice problem
Anne .. whith me being blind in one eye and unable to see from the other do you happen to have the url. I do use Asian fonts on occasion and have had trouble. Thanks. James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 10:55, Anne Wilson wrote: On Monday 03 Feb 2003 6:46 pm, Praedor Tempus Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Monday 03 February 2003 01:45 pm, et wrote: ok, here is the kick in the crotch I could not save it in SO powerpoint, so i created a new presentation, copy and pasted all the slides to the new presentation, and it saved with no problem. Hell's bells. Hmpf. Being an emergency, I tried other options and have decided to go with pdf. Staroffice, I found, cannot create (in this case at least) a valid/useable pdf file. By printing instead to a postscript file (SO does BEAUTIFUL postscript) and then using ps2pdfwr I get an equally gorgeous pdf file. My committee will have to make do with a pdf file as I have already generated it and tested it. Thanks for the attempts (and possible answer). I will have to try the copy-paste to a new file. Must be some wierd bit somewhere in the presentation. This sounds suspiciously like the problems I've had with some .sxw files. After a lot of help from et and others I gave up, thinking it couldn't be solved. Then I went onto Sun's website and discovered that there is a patch, a sort of service pack 2. I installed it; a lot of bits said they could not install, but looking over the docs that come with it I think they were concerned with asian fonts, which I don't have. The upshot is, I think the bug fixes that are in there have cured my problem. The files that I believed to be corrupted beyond recovery now open and can be used with ease. HTH Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mozilla and Netscape Profiles
Anne just a thought here that might work mv .mozilla to mozilla (removing the leading dot) so you don't lose anything. Then start NS7 first. Since it won't have a . file to access it will have to create it's own. Then start mozilla it should read the .netscape7 file and import the profile to itself. The only thing left afterwords will be to cp your plugins and bookmarks from the old file to the new. (cp it not mv it mozilla can be real determined at times to not use foreign bookmarks.) James On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 14:26, Anne Wilson wrote: I installed Netscape 7 as root, creating a profile in the process. If I navigate to the appropriate directory to start Nscp7 as root I get the profile manager and can access that profile. If I start Nscp7 as a user it shares my Mozilla profile. This has caused me problems. Trouble is, I can't find where the root Nscp7 profile is stored. I presume if I can find it I can, as root, copy it to my own home directory (?) and change permissions, but although there are .netscape and .netscape6 directories they do not appear to contain the profiles. Can anyone help, please? Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] drakbackup
On Monday 03 February 2003 07:28 pm, Michael Holt wrote: 5:42pm, civileme mused: Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NOT USE CDRW media for this either--most of it is 650 and there are MANY supposed CDRW drives which will not work with CDRW media of the more modern flavor or insist on trying to treat all the CDRW media as 700Mb capacity. Civileme Is this something mdk specific or is it just a feature not available to the linux community yet? RW's have been out so long, I just assumed that the technology had been stablized by now. Thanks Civileme! Mike Umm, I just moved the Acer Drive to my son's computer (he uses the unmentionable system in its latest incarnation) and it behaves the same--choking on CDRW disks, so I imagine it is unresolved hardware issues with the druive hardware and the brand of media (one style did not throttle the drive) So it aint even linux-specific Just one of those things that you never know til you test. I have a Wearnes 4x2x24 that works acceptably and a no-name that does 700Mb media perfectly either CD-R or CDRW, but won't touch 650s at all and it is rated 40x12x48 (and that one made me a religious buyer of very cheap CD-Rs cause backing up a 40G disk using it is not a wasted day) as to the quality of drakbackup, I cannot speak because I have been using scdbackup since 1999, but I do know that it works better with supermount disabled. (MOF, with supermount enabled, I can crash the kernel with a dd from CD to floppy). That might be the mandrake specific issue you seek. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Tue Feb 04, 2003 at 09:54:32AM +1100, Ron Stodden wrote:
Interestingly, a reinstall did not fix anything, like it does with
Windows 98
(but _NOT_ always) - which is a serious requirements or design problem
with
the Mandrake installer.
The installer goes with the packages it's given... it doesn't install
something and go hey wait a minute and intelligently fix your problem
for you.
It should restore your system to the same state as when it was originally
installed, except for your customisation and data, which it and rpm
knows to
leave alone. This does imply checksums or backup copies on hand of
installed
unchanging files.The installer/reinstaller has access to the RPM
library used
at original installation.
Ahhh... so you're not doing a fresh install, you're trying to tell it
to downgrade packages for you. I don't think the installer does this.
My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an
important
requirement and goal of installer implementation. New arrivals to Mandrake
from Windows - near all of us? - expect no less, particularly when no other
solution to a randomly clobbered system is offered. Recall that the i86
architecture fails to offer hardware memory block protection that would
immediately
trap any program's attempt to write-access outside its allocated or
shared memory
blocks.The CDC 6600 had this implemented, so the technology is
nothing new -
except to Intel. That's the major reason why i86 architecture is not
safe,
especially for multiple concurrent users, and not useable for critical
missions.
Well, be that as it may, did DrakX ever advertise this windows-alike
behaviour? Did it say that if you did a package upgrade install that
it would do what you seem to expect it to do?
This isn't something you should be bitching about post-release... this
is something you should bring up during development... I can't recall
ever seeing any thread about this to date. To say that updates
clobbered your system and DrakX didn't fix it for me when we never
said it would do this, is not really acceptable. You should bring this
up with the developers. Not sitting back and crying about it because
you just assumed it was there.
It is incredible to me that this obvious requirement seems to have been
totally
overlooked by Mandrake. which is more evidence that the developers just
ignore
industry experience and do not appear to actually be using the product
in any
user-workhorse mode.
Well, that's just a load of crap and you know it. I think I use my
workstation just as hard as any Win98 user does... and it's rock solid
for me. Don't use the product in any user-workhorse mode? Yeah...
right.
Anyways, this is something you should bring up on cooker... I doubt it
can be accomplished for 9.1, but if no one asks for it, we dont't think
about it or know it's important to people. Can't be *that* important
as this is the first I've heard of it in 3 years. Remember, we are not
Windows. Ok, we may be missing some of the good features of Windows in
some instances, but we're also missing a lot of the bad ones. We
didn't set out to make a Windows clone, you know.
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Re: Fwd: [expert] Best Mandrake yet!!!
On Mon Feb 03, 2003 at 08:44:59PM -0800, Jack Coates wrote:
[...]
My point is that Win 98 does this. Plainly, or fortuitously, it was an
important
requirement and goal of installer implementation.
That may be the intention, but a reinstall of Windows over the same
partition has never actually solved a problem for me -- and let me tell
you, I've tried more than once :-)
Agreed. The only way to rescue Windows from itself, in my experience,
is to make backups, format and reinstall on a clean partition.
Installing Windows overtop of itself has always created more problems
than what it fixed.
Let's take a moment to re-evaluate the hardware decisions that we've all
made... Anyone using hardware-protected-memory big iron for a desktop or
laptop, raise your hand! Personally, I'm gonna trade in my Vaio for an
AS/400 (or whatever it's call this week) because it just raises eyebrows
when you roll that big black box into a meeting :-) Seriously, the old
hehehe... no doubt! I think I need one of those as well.. just not
sure how I'd fit it in the cat... =)
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Re: [expert] drakbackup
On Mon, 2003-02-03 at 22:07, civileme wrote: On Monday 03 February 2003 07:28 pm, Michael Holt wrote: 5:42pm, civileme mused: Well google around and you can find scdbackup which is oriented toward 650Mb disks. And I have tested it to work on 9.0 with supermount disabled, and a $25.95(US) CDRW drive which is rated 4x4x24 Even with that, the drive barfs on CDRW media, even for blanking, with 9.0 DO NOT USE CDRW media for this either--most of it is 650 and there are MANY supposed CDRW drives which will not work with CDRW media of the more modern flavor or insist on trying to treat all the CDRW media as 700Mb capacity. Civileme Is this something mdk specific or is it just a feature not available to the linux community yet? RW's have been out so long, I just assumed that the technology had been stablized by now. Thanks Civileme! Mike Umm, I just moved the Acer Drive to my son's computer (he uses the unmentionable system in its latest incarnation) and it behaves the same--choking on CDRW disks, so I imagine it is unresolved hardware issues with the druive hardware and the brand of media (one style did not throttle the drive) So it aint even linux-specific Just one of those things that you never know til you test. I have a Wearnes 4x2x24 that works acceptably and a no-name that does 700Mb media perfectly either CD-R or CDRW, but won't touch 650s at all and it is rated 40x12x48 (and that one made me a religious buyer of very cheap CD-Rs cause backing up a 40G disk using it is not a wasted day) Civileme this brings to mind what I'm trying to instill in my dev teams now. If you say Nobody will.. somebody always does. They Said nobody will ever want a 650MB blank when 700MB blanks exist... and I'd be willing to be that the firmware assumes 700 because it was easier and faster to write. (BTW it's nice to see your sig on the list again.) James as to the quality of drakbackup, I cannot speak because I have been using scdbackup since 1999, but I do know that it works better with supermount disabled. (MOF, with supermount enabled, I can crash the kernel with a dd from CD to floppy). That might be the mandrake specific issue you seek. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Chkrootkit - wted deletions
Here's what happened when I ran chkrootkit on my main system: === quote === # chkrootkit output snipped eth0 is not promisc Checking `wted'... 3 deletion(s) between Tue Oct 22 22:40:28 2002 and Fri Oct 26 22:48:32 1990 7 deletion(s) between Sat Jan 12 23:20:01 1918 and Sat Jan 4 08:39:44 2003 4 deletion(s) between Sat Jan 4 08:39:44 2003 and Tue Oct 22 22:45:16 2002 1 deletion(s) between Thu Dec 5 18:36:13 2002 and Thu Dec 5 18:54:40 2002 1 deletion(s) between Wed Jan 8 12:59:41 2003 and Wed Jan 8 13:10:57 2003 1 deletion(s) between Wed Jan 8 13:27:10 2003 and Wed Jan 8 13:35:22 2003 8 deletion(s) between Fri Jan 31 02:35:24 2003 and Thu Mar 13 01:51:18 2014 2 deletion(s) between Fri Jan 31 02:55:53 2003 and Tue Oct 9 15:01:26 2029 nothing deleted Checking `scalper'... not infected Checking `slapper'... not infected Checking `z2'... nothing deleted === /quote === Note the dates: there are references to the years 1918, 1990, 2014 and 2029. The first 'wted' line shows deletions between 2002 and 1990, and the third line shows deletions between 2003 and 2002 (i.e. going back in time). Odd. Does this suggest that I've been cracked? This box has been sitting behind an MNF box, which chkrootkit shows as clean, since mid-December. Before this (July-December 2002), it was behind a Mandrake 8.2 box which had a Firestarter firewall. Do I need to reinstall my OS from scratch? -- Sridhar Dhanapalan [Yama | http://www.pclinuxonline.com/] An ordinary frog goes ribbit, ribbit and a budfrog goes bud ,,, Weis... Er, but a winfrog goes reboot, reboot, reboot -- Civileme msg65504/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] drakbackup
9:07pm, civileme mused: Umm, I just moved the Acer Drive to my son's computer (he uses the unmentionable system in its latest incarnation) and it behaves the same--choking on CDRW disks, so I imagine it is unresolved hardware issues with the druive hardware and the brand of media (one style did not throttle the drive) So it aint even linux-specific Just one of those things that you never know til you test. I have a Wearnes 4x2x24 that works acceptably and a no-name that does 700Mb media perfectly either CD-R or CDRW, but won't touch 650s at all and it is rated 40x12x48 (and that one made me a religious buyer of very cheap CD-Rs cause backing up a 40G disk using it is not a wasted day) as to the quality of drakbackup, I cannot speak because I have been using scdbackup since 1999, but I do know that it works better with supermount disabled. (MOF, with supermount enabled, I can crash the kernel with a dd from CD to floppy). That might be the mandrake specific issue you seek. Civileme Well I guess that about does it then - I'm off to check out scd. Nothing ever seems to be simple these days :-) Thanks for the replies! Mike p.s. I know someone who can perform an exorcism on your son's computer if you like! :-) -- Michael Holt Banning, CA(o_ [EMAIL PROTECTED](o_ (o_ //\ www.holt-tech.net(/)_ (/)_ V_/_www.mandrake.com Bad or missing mouse driver. Spank the cat? (Y/N) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
