Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-30 Thread Damon Lynch
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 03:13, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 In any case, since I would expect that a lot of 
 users, particularly new users, would start the update process from DrakConf 
 rather than from a CLI, they would not tend to use command line switches, 
 just icons.  Autoresume should be builtin by default.

Yes that's true.  I was thinking of a user who is unfamiliar with
Mandrake or Linux in general, and is confronted with having to load many
MBs of packages to fix a bug or security problem.  This can be
stressful, and the process should be as easy as possible.

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Re: [expert] Jims 9.2 request mantra

2003-06-30 Thread Jim C
Looks like I wont have to worry about it maybe.  Found this in bugzilla::

After setting the paths for htdig in the help index control panel in kde, the build index 
button still doesn't seem to work.

/--- Additional Comment #1 
http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=3294#c1 From Mandrake 
Linux KDE Team mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-03-25 10:16 --- /

This bug was fixed now in kde cvs. 
Too late for MDK9.1 
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Re: [expert] how to set routing at boot?

2003-06-30 Thread Mark
Hi SainTiss,

I am trying to work out what you are trying to do..

Sounds like your trying to route a live range through a private IP
address range.


 213.118.248.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00
 eth0

Do you really have a live Subneted B-class or 8 C-classes, I suspect
that your ISP would have only given you a 213.118.248.0/29  or
213.118.248.0/255.255.255.248 or a range of .1-.6 leaving the .0 for
Network address and .7 for Broadcast.

O.K. where one can configure the extra needed static routes is via the 
 /etc/sysconfig/networking/devices/eth0.route  or the eth1.route etc..
depending which interface you are binding your routes to.

Have a look at the script /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts/ifup-routes
that may give you a hint what's going on.

Cheers
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[expert] is the list down or me kicked off

2003-06-30 Thread Richard Bown
Hi all , nothing for a day, strange ??
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Re: [expert] FIXED: No 3D with NVidia's driver

2003-06-30 Thread Miark
For no reason whatsoever, 3D is now working. At one point I installed the
RPMs from MandarkeClub. They didn't work, so I uninstalled them and re-
installed the drivers from the nVidia site. Still didn't work, of course,
but this time my XFree config file had no trace whatsoever of the GLX
in the module section, whereas it had alway either loaded glx or the 
path to the glx library file. Okay, so I added the Load glx line, 
re-started X, and voila: cube, in all it's glory.

A very frustrating ordeal, but it's over.

Miark

 

On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 23:39:26 -0400
Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just in case this second line is important:
 
  Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
  Error: couldn't get an RGB, Double-buffered visual
 
 I just installed the NVidia kernel and GLX RPMs from MandrakeClub. No
 difference.
 
 Miark
 
 
 
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 22:51:51 -0400
 Miark [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  My machine has never had a problem with using NVidia's proprietary 3D 
  drivers. But after a fresh install this afternoon, I get this whenever
  I run a GL app:
  
Xlib:  extension GLX missing on display :0.0.
  
  I get the same thing with glxinfo, glxgears, and cube. I've run and 
  rerun the installer while running the win4lin kernel and the updated
  stock kernel, but to no avail. I checked XF86Config-4 and glx is a
  listed module. The modules.conf file has alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia.
  I've tried an ldconfig. 
  
  How do I get GLX working?
  
  tia,
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Re: [expert] how to set routing at boot?

2003-06-30 Thread richard bown
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 23:29, SainTiss wrote:
 Ok, anyway, I've tried to change the IP addresses now so that they are
 in different subnets, but that doesn't really seem to help... pinging
 between the 2 client pc's doesn't even work anymore now...
 
 This is the config:
 
 gateway (192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1):
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth2
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth1
 213.118.248.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 213.118.248.1   0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
 
 client 192.168.0.2:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
 
the gateway address should be the address of the router on both machines
 client 192.168.1.2:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
   192.168.0.1
   
 I'd think this is supposed to work, no?
 
 Any ideas as to what is wrong with this setup?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Hans
 
 
 On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 21:59, Steven Broos wrote:
  Quick lesson in subnetworking, because I think the problem isn't your
  IPtables-settings but your network layout.
  
  192.168.0.x is a class C network address. 192.168.0 is the network
  address, and the last number is the host-portion of the address.
  If all PCs have an address beginning with 192.168.0 and a netmask of
  255.255.255.0 they are on the same subnet, and don't need routing.
  If you need to separate your LAN into difefrent subnets, use 192.168.0.x
  and 192.168.1.x etc...
  
  Creating a subnet with mask 255.255.255.255 isn't possible, because that
  way you don't have any broadcast/network-addresses.
  
  If you think this goes into the right direction, please give more
  details about your LAN and ask for more information :-)
  
  regards,
  Steven
  (CCNA)
  
  
  
  
  On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:47, SainTiss wrote:
   Well, what I *need* e.g. on the gateway is something like this:
   
   Kernel IP routing table
   Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
   Iface
   192.168.0.3 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
   eth2
   192.168.0.2 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.255 UH0  00
   eth1
   213.118.248.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00
   eth0
   127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
   lo
   0.0.0.0 213.118.248.1   0.0.0.0 UG0  00
   eth0
   
   However, by default those upper 2 rules aren't there, and instead
   there's a rule like this:
   
   192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0 U0  0   
   0 eth2
   
   So in other words, by default ALL LAN traffic is routed through eth2,
   while obviously traffic with 192.168.0.2 should be routed via eth1.
   
   Did that make it any clearer?
   
   Thanks,
   
   Hans
   
   On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:18, Bill Mullen wrote:
On Sat, 28 Jun 2003, SainTiss wrote:

 I just changed my network configs here, and it seems the routing table
 got messed up...
 
 I know the solution (ie adding some rules and deleting some), but I was
 wondering if there was some file or something where I could specify the
 right rules, so that the table is setup correctly at boot?
 
 what's the default way to do this? I'm guessing some file which is then
 processed by ifup or something, but I'm not sure...

Depends on what's messed up. :)

Most settings draw on the information in the /etc/sysconfig directory, 
specifically the network file and the various ifcfg-interface ones 
in the network-scripts subdirectory. For simpler setups, these are all 
you'll need to adjust, but we have no idea how complicated your normal 
routing table actually is ... care to offer a hint? ;)
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed

2003-06-30 Thread Brian Schroeder
Thanks Tom and Olaf for your replies.  I will have a play with Sandra
and see what I come up with.
Brian.

At 01.24 27/06/2003, you wrote:
Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of
SDram  (ie. 66, 100, 133)?  Obviously, in cases where it isn't
actually written on the stick.
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[expert] 16 hours?

2003-06-30 Thread KevinO
to get a response from the sympa mail-list server?

Ann, did it take you this long to get a response?

I sent 'help' to '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' at 2:12am and finally got a
response at 6:02pm. This IS ridiculous.

I am changing which email account I subscribe to the list from. (Dropping my
old ISP and now using my own, internal mail server.

This mail server really is a POS...
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[expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread Brian Parish
I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently.  Can anyone say
anything definitive about the error correction issue that apparently
applied to WD drives?  There was a series of threads on the Mandrake
groups - probably a year back now - in which some people including
Civileme talked about WD drives relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC
and therefore being subject to corruption when used with linux.

If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or whatever, it
would be great to know.  As it stands I am reluctant to use them, but
maybe I'm missing out on a great product.

TIA
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Re: [expert] Postfix Relay question...

2003-06-30 Thread Todd Lyons
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Ralph Crongeyer wanted us to know:

How can I allow a single client (IP address) besids the $mynetworks = 
111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24 variable or can I do it with that 
variable like
$mynetworks = 111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24, 333.444.555.10/24.
Is that possable?

111.222.333.10/32 assuming that your ip address is 111.222.333.10.

BTW, you really ought to use something close to real IP addresses when
you do examples.  333 is not a valid octet (more than 8 bits).
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[expert] Again, no messages

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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So yet again the list is generating no traffic (for me at least).  What's up?
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[expert] mount in fstab

2003-06-30 Thread David Hlik
Hi, how can i mount ISO image, from install CD in automatic from fstab

i tried 
/mnt/data2/Instalacie/Programy/Linux/Mandrake-9.1/Mandrake91-cd3-i18n.i586.iso 
iso9660 /mnt/inst3 loop=/dev/loop0 0 0

but it does not work. Thanks for help

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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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Of course I meant it should lie to the server.  What else could I possibly 
have meant that would make any sense?  It (MandrakeUpdate) should also be 
prudish and prurient (try to do both of those at the same time).

praedor

On Friday 27 June 2003 10:55 pm, Chris Grevstad wrote:
  ...  It needs to have a wget-like mendaciousness.  If during updating
  the internet connection goes down and is then re-established, like wget,
  MandrakeUpdate should get back to downloading.

 I think you mean tenaciousness, not mendaciousness, which means something
 characterized by lying and falsehood.  Maybe you intended that
 MandrakeUpdate should lie to the server and say Not me!  I didn't go
 down, so keep giving me the stuff. :-)

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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-30 Thread kiosk
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:51:35 -0500
Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How about giving MandrakeUpdate an autoresume ability?


In the UK, ISPs who provide a fixed fee anytime deal for modem users
tend to sever the connection whenever the user has spent two hours online.
It's no problem reconnecting immediately, of course - but being cut off is
bad news if one is part-way through a download at the time. I failed to
get a kernel source package recently, because I was disconnected just 3
minutes short of the required time :(

So the auto-resume suggestion is an essential feature from my point of
view. It would save me much anxiety as I watch the transfer rate
fluctuating. It could also mean I don't have to wait for stuff appearing
on magazine cover cd's. It could even mean that UK people are less likely
to consider MDK impractical unless they have broadband.


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Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed

2003-06-30 Thread John Haywood
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 09:24 am, Brian Schroeder wrote:
 Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of
 SDram  (ie. 66, 100, 133)?  Obviously, in cases where it isn't
 actually written on the stick.


Oh well, Google it is, then 

http://www.pcstats.com/articleview.cfm?articleID=179

http://www.chipmunk.nl/DRAM/

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[expert] Bittorrent

2003-06-30 Thread richard bown
Hi all
Ive been using bittorrent on windows for a while, works fine

So I thought I'd try the linux version of the client, so downloaded the
rpm from cooker built it and installed the files and the gui.
Its been written in python, and each of the binaries seems to do
something.
But what it dos'nt do is handle the download .ie. if you click on the
download icon on say downloadparadise all you get is a screen full of
garbage.
The documentation I've found is'nt very helpfull.
Has anyone tried this ,and if so how did they get it to work.
Ive tried xmule and that works fine, the trouble is there most of the
sites are just full of p0rn..
TIA

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Re: [expert] adsl logging ip add changes live

2003-06-30 Thread John Wilson
On June 27, 2003 09:56 am, Steve Cox - dig wrote:
 Hi there,
 This might be a little bit newbie, not sure. I want to keep an eye on my ip
 address off my adsl line, as it changes I would like a scirpt to run,
 basically uploading to a hosted out website. Currently I use a cron job
 every 15 mins that checks if the current ip is the same as the last in
 /var/log/syslog, if not then and only then upload it. I do not run any mail
 services, I do however run apache live for webpages only. It is on a text
 only machine, Mandrake9.1, P1 100mhz, that doubles as my gateway for small
 lan at home. If anyone has pointers, please share.

 I dont really want to run dyndns just yet, but if this turns out to be the
 best solution, then so be it, I will.

 Oh, I am more a user, and not so good at bash  scripting, so if there isnt
 an easy way, dont worry, I'll go the dyndns route.

 Best regards
 Steve Cox


Hi Steve.  First of all you need to understand how adsl, and indeed all 
dynamic IP works.  You are assigned an IP when you first connect to the 
server.  Not log on, not do anything except connect.  For the duration of the 
connection your IP doesn't change.  So, if you don't turn off your 
computer/router combination  the IP should never change.  If you do the 
chances are you will get the same IP back again, though there's no guarantee 
of that.

At no time during a connection will the IP ever change.  It's theorectially 
possible, of course, but in all my years of supporting and installing adsl I 
have yet to see it.  And the reason is fairly simple.  To assign everyone a 
new IP the dynamic IP server would have to take down your connection and 
initiate another handshake, then pass on the new IP, then, just to make 
sure it's you, ask for your password again.  As a simple matter of customer 
relations telco's don't do this.

Indeed, the telco will reserve the IP you already have for a period of up to 
96 hours so that it can deal with such things as power failures either at the 
Central Office or in your area.  You have to be shut down for quite some time 
before you'll get a new IP, as a rule.

Running a cron job, as long as your connection stays up, is, then, a waste of 
time.  If you want to check it do it immediately after bringing up the 
connection using ifconfig eth0/eth1 or whatever.  BTW, restarting your 
network appears to have no affect..your IP will, 99.% of the time be 
correct.

(Incidentially, this is how my home network works as well.)

That said, I'm a bit unclear about what you're saying with respect to your web 
site.  If you're hosting a web site on a dynamically allocated IP address 
you're asking, no begging, for trouble.  Buck up for a fixed IP for that.

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[expert] Setting up Cyrus-imapd/Posfix under Mdk-9.1

2003-06-30 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Folks,

I have a slight problem with the Cyrus Server n a box I have (Via EPIA 
5000 running Mandrake 9.1). I tried the cyrus-imapd version 2.1.12 from 
Contrib.

Actually - the cyrus-imapd works, and the postfix Server too - if both 
ae not connected - but I get the followig mssage in the Postfix logs:

-Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient---
15AD9B26E   394 Sat Jun 28 18:34:04  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(connect to /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp]: No 
such file or directory)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However - I have configured the Imapd-postfix link as stated inthe docs
Postfix maincf file:
[...]
mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
[...]
Postfix/Cyrus gid:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# id cyrus
uid=76(cyrus) gid=12(mail) groups=12(mail)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# id postfix
uid=72(postfix) gid=72(postfix) groups=72(postfix),12(mail),105(postdrop)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -l /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
srwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jun 29 01:47 
/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp=

So - te socket should bereadable by both.

Anyone got a hint in this direction ?
I tried downloading the 2.1.13-src.RPM that was announced in cooker not 
too long ago - but can't reach it. All sites are not reachable - or the 
file itself ot downloadable (mandrake incoming-ftp).

Thx for hints

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Re: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:20, Brian Parish wrote:
 I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently.  Can anyone say
 anything definitive about the error correction issue that apparently
 applied to WD drives?  There was a series of threads on the Mandrake
 groups - probably a year back now - in which some people including
 Civileme talked about WD drives relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC
 and therefore being subject to corruption when used with linux.
 
 If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or whatever, it
 would be great to know.  As it stands I am reluctant to use them, but
 maybe I'm missing out on a great product.
 
 TIA
 Brian

Not only is it not fixed... I personally feel it's gotten worse.  I was
forced to install during a recent install fest on a number of WD drives
and to be honest not a one of them worked worth a dang.  I could never
get one to work reliably above UDMA2 (nor could winders, which is how we
got them for free.) If all of those drives hadn't been donated I
personally wouldn't have done anything but trash them.

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Re: [expert] Feature request/suggestion - addition

2003-06-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Sonntag, 29. Juni 2003 04:36 schrieb kiosk:
 On Fri, 27 Jun 2003 21:51:35 -0500

 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  How about giving MandrakeUpdate an autoresume ability?

This one is suggested and worked on. At least with rsync it should work 
allready in cooker if I'm not false.

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing hell

2003-06-30 Thread KevinO
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Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 Eieew, 20+ megs...I have a dialup and don't see downloading smoothwall in this
 lifetime.

I am just now getting over having to live with a 26.4Kbps dialup connection
for the last few years...

Smoothwall took 2 hours or so download at THAT speed.

Just start the download late in the evening and go watch a movie or something...

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[expert] test

2003-06-30 Thread KevinO
This is only a test...
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[expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I don't have much hope that this message will actually make it to the list but 
what the hell (I haven't seen a single message all weekend...AGAIN...I think 
I will drop off the list, it is too broken to be of any more use).

For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up 'til now 
I was the only user.  I found that the default behavior/security (not) 
setting allowed all users to access all other user's home directories.  No 
limits!  What is this?!  That is the same as no security at all.  I went into 
DrakConf and set the security level to high and this fixed the horrific 
insecurity of the default setup, but it also unfortunately fired up shorewall 
with settings that prevented me from being able to access the system remotely 
- - I often connect my laptop via ethernet (crossover cable) to my desktop and 
transfer files, fix things that have frozen or broken on the desktop, etc.  I 
found that I could no longer ssh into my desktop when I really needed to in 
order to correct an X freeze up.  Unfortunately, because I couldn't get in I 
had to hard reboot.  
  So...what is the deal with default (medium?) security settings in Mandrake 
9.1 allowing all users to access all other user's home directories?  This is 
windoze behavior for gawds sake.  Then, why would it be necessary to block 
all ssh connections - a secure shell, afterall, with the next higher setting 
(required to get home directories cordoned off from prying user eyes)?

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Re: [expert] how to set routing at boot?

2003-06-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Sat, 29 Jun 2003, SainTiss wrote:

 Ok, anyway, I've tried to change the IP addresses now so that they are
 in different subnets, but that doesn't really seem to help... pinging
 between the 2 client pc's doesn't even work anymore now...
 
 This is the config:
 
 gateway (192.168.0.1 and 192.168.1.1):
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth2
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth1
 213.118.248.0   0.0.0.0 255.255.252.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 213.118.248.1   0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
 
 client 192.168.0.2:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.0.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.0.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
 
 client 192.168.1.2:
 
 Kernel IP routing table
 Destination Gateway Genmask Flags Metric RefUse
 Iface
 192.168.1.0 0.0.0.0 255.255.255.0   U 0  00
 eth0
 127.0.0.0   0.0.0.0 255.0.0.0   U 0  00
 lo
 0.0.0.0 192.168.1.1 0.0.0.0 UG0  00
 eth0
 
 I'd think this is supposed to work, no?
 
 Any ideas as to what is wrong with this setup?

Well, as for the pinging problem, do you have IP forwarding turned on?

In the /etc/sysconfig/network file:

FORWARD_IPV4=true

Once the network service is restarted, they should see each other again.

If you expect these other systems to have access to the WAN by way of this
machine, however, you'll need to set up NAT, which is done using iptables 
(usually, by way of an iptables configuration front-end such as guarddog, 
firestarter, Bastille, or the Mandrake Control Center's applet, which uses 
the shorewall system). You can also set up your iptables rules manually, 
if you're so inclined, and use the iptables app itself to save them and 
to load them. Check the iptables man page, and such 'net resources as the 
Linux Documentation Project's HOWTOs and the home pages for the netfilter 
project (which includes iptables) and for shorewall.

http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/HOWTO-INDEX/networking.html
http://www.netfilter.org
http://www.shorewall.net

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Re: [expert] Bittorrent

2003-06-30 Thread Torstein Dybdahl
Hi.

To use bittorrent with mozilla you have to add the mime-type 
x-bittorrent so that it launches the btdownloadgui.

like in opera it is
application/x-bittorrent filetype .torrent
and laynces btdownloadgui.py
I have not realy succedded with making it work well inside a browser.
so i used to copy .torrent file to a folder and launched
btdownloadcurses.py file.torrent
this used to work.
Havent tested bittorrent since the major article in BBC.
Regards
Torstein
richard bown wrote:
Hi all
Ive been using bittorrent on windows for a while, works fine
So I thought I'd try the linux version of the client, so downloaded the
rpm from cooker built it and installed the files and the gui.
Its been written in python, and each of the binaries seems to do
something.
But what it dos'nt do is handle the download .ie. if you click on the
download icon on say downloadparadise all you get is a screen full of
garbage.
The documentation I've found is'nt very helpfull.
Has anyone tried this ,and if so how did they get it to work.
Ive tried xmule and that works fine, the trouble is there most of the
sites are just full of p0rn..
TIA
Richard



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Re: [expert] booting a kernel compiled with athlon results inkernel panick :/

2003-06-30 Thread Todd Lyons
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Oh well... I did make clean. I didn't think that I need to do make
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required?!?

If you did anything that _changes_ the .config file, yes.  If you did
not change anything either in make xconfig or make menuconfig or by
editing .config directly, then no it is not required.
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Re: [expert] pioneer dvr-105 issues UPDATE

2003-06-30 Thread Azrael
In my /etc/fstab (due to k3bsetup) I have:

/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder auto
ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
/dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder1auto   
ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0

I have downloaded cdrecord-prodvd and set k3b to use that as default.

I still can't burn onto a dvdrw.

I'm getting this dreadful emotional heartache just at the very thought
that I'll have to install windows just to make my purchase not be a
waste of money.. and it's not nice :/

I'm pretty much at a loss of what I should do now.

Can anyone offer any enlightenment?


On Fri, 2003-06-27 at 18:10, Azrael wrote:
 Just bought and installed a pioneer dvr-105 (dvd-r/rw burner).
 I've installed it as /dev/hdc.
 
 Two issues:
 
 1)
 
 In xcdroast it only appears as an atapi device, rather than available as
 emulated scsi, unlike my plextor cdrw which appears as both.
 
 I tried to remedy this with adding 'hdc=ide-scsi' to the append line in
 /etc/lilo.conf but no change. Am I supposed to edit /etc/modules.conf ?
 This is what I already have in modules.conf:
 
   probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi ataraid
   probeall usb-interface usb-uhci
   alias eth0 eepro100
   above snd-emu10k1 snd-pcm-oss
   alias sound-slot-0 emu10k1
   options bttv radio=0 card=9 gbuffers=4
 
 2)
 
 The second problem is actually using the dvd burner.
 I believe cdrecord-2.01-0.a16.1mdk supports dvd burning, and I am using
 it. But xcdroast fails to either burn anything onto a dvd-rw, or to
 blank it. No way I am making dvd-r coasters until I am sure it works, at
 which point I hope not to make coasters anyway.
 
 Advice/assistance very much welcomed
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Re: [expert] Setting up Cyrus-imapd/Posfix under Mdk-9.1

2003-06-30 Thread Joerg Mertin
Ok - answering to my own question.
Due to the fact that the Mandrake-Maillist server did crash - I couldn't 
get Help from all of you :)

Actually - it seemed to be a problem with the Version. after having 
upgraded the cyrus-imapd Server to 2.1.13 - it worked without a hintch.
Also - I have to admit that having a Cyrus Imaps Server, Webmail and 
integrated Spamassassing-2.5.x  Anomy-Sanitizer running on that box - 
with soon the Spam's to be 'in dumped mode' - makes me feel much better 
already :)

Cheers

	Joerg

Joerg Mertin wrote:
Hi Folks,

I have a slight problem with the Cyrus Server n a box I have (Via EPIA 
5000 running Mandrake 9.1). I tried the cyrus-imapd version 2.1.12 from 
Contrib.

Actually - the cyrus-imapd works, and the postfix Server too - if both 
ae not connected - but I get the followig mssage in the Postfix logs:

-Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient---
15AD9B26E   394 Sat Jun 28 18:34:04  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(connect to /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp]: No 
such file or directory)
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

However - I have configured the Imapd-postfix link as stated inthe docs
Postfix maincf file:
[...]
mailbox_transport = lmtp:unix:/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
[...]
Postfix/Cyrus gid:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# id cyrus
uid=76(cyrus) gid=12(mail) groups=12(mail)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# id postfix
uid=72(postfix) gid=72(postfix) groups=72(postfix),12(mail),105(postdrop)
[EMAIL PROTECTED] etc]# ls -l /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp
srwxrwxrwx1 root root0 Jun 29 01:47 
/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp=

So - te socket should bereadable by both.

Anyone got a hint in this direction ?
I tried downloading the 2.1.13-src.RPM that was announced in cooker not 
too long ago - but can't reach it. All sites are not reachable - or the 
file itself ot downloadable (mandrake incoming-ftp).

Thx for hints

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Re: [expert] Postfix Relay question...

2003-06-30 Thread Björn Rhoads
On Friday 27 June 2003 00.12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I don't know of a way to limit it to a single host rather than a network.
  Why would you want to?
 
  Miark

 Cuz I use e-mail from home. And at home I'm using a cable connection and
 don't
 want to open up the server to everyone on my network.

 Ralph :-)

  On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:10:04 -0400
 
  Ralph Crongeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  OK, thanks to everyone's help it looks like I got my MTA configured
  right now.
 
  Good.
 
  How can I allow a single client (IP address) besids the $mynetworks =
  111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24 variable or can I do it with that
  variable like
  $mynetworks = 111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24, 333.444.555.10/24.
  Is that possable?

Can't you just use a /32? 
$mynetworks = 111.222.233.10/32 should be just one host.

/Björn

 
  What is the best solution for this??
 
  I don't know of a way to limit it to a single host rather than a network.
  Why would you want to?
 
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[expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how to
spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent Parent
process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that spawns it
dies it doesn't die.  What I need is to have the parent process spawn
the new process, then complete itself and die.  While the child becomes
independent and continues it's life until it completes it's actions.  

Basically what I've run into is versions of RPM on older (but still
commonly used) versions of Linux that have trouble closing correctly if
the rpm process runs to long.  In this case I have a rather long
automated installation that is hanging RPM.  So if I can spin off a new
child as a parent it will allow RPM to close faster and the parent can
die without killing the child or turning the parent into a Zombie.

(NOTE:  For all who may be looking over someones shoulder, or FBI agents
reading e-mail  I'm not a terrorist, nor a pervert.. parent, child
and zombie in this case are technical terms.) 

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Re: [expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread David Guntner
James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:

 No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how to
 spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent Parent
 process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that spawns it
 dies it doesn't die.  What I need is to have the parent process spawn
 the new process, then complete itself and die.  While the child becomes
 independent and continues it's life until it completes it's actions.

man nohup.

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing hell

2003-06-30 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:08:22 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Eieew, 20+ megs...I have a dialup and don't see downloading smoothwall
 in this lifetime.  I tried shorewall and setting it up via the nice
 drakconf frontend but it completely borked my ability to connect to the
 internet, seemingly regardless of what settings I made (as to allowing
 what to access, etc). 

http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/stronger-firewall-examples.html

is about as low download impact as you can get...  using it on a 21.6kb
line at the moment -- sucks compared to my DSL; but the script tracks the
dialup IP. The only problem I've had with it was a ~30sec delay each time
I checked mail from my server...  This was solved by adding a rule to
allow ident from the server; I can provide the changes if you need them...


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Re: [expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread Greg Meyer
On Saturday 28 June 2003 07:17 pm, James Sparenberg wrote:
 No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how to
 spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent Parent
 process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that spawns it

I use 

nohup program 

to do this.

This allows me to start a process fromthe command line in the background so I 
can still use the console, and then close the console when I'm done and not 
lose the app I started.

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Re: [expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread Jack Coates
as David suggested, nohup is good for this -- but the daemon function in
/etc/init.d/functions might also fit the bill.

On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 16:17, James Sparenberg wrote:
 No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how to
 spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent Parent
 process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that spawns it
 dies it doesn't die.  What I need is to have the parent process spawn
 the new process, then complete itself and die.  While the child becomes
 independent and continues it's life until it completes it's actions.  
 
 Basically what I've run into is versions of RPM on older (but still
 commonly used) versions of Linux that have trouble closing correctly if
 the rpm process runs to long.  In this case I have a rather long
 automated installation that is hanging RPM.  So if I can spin off a new
 child as a parent it will allow RPM to close faster and the parent can
 die without killing the child or turning the parent into a Zombie.
 
 (NOTE:  For all who may be looking over someones shoulder, or FBI agents
 reading e-mail  I'm not a terrorist, nor a pervert.. parent, child
 and zombie in this case are technical terms.) 
 
 James
 
  
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] pioneer dvr-105 issues UPDATE

2003-06-30 Thread Pierre Fortin
On 29 Jun 2003 23:36:40 +0100 Azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 In my /etc/fstab (due to k3bsetup) I have:
 
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder auto
 ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
 /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder1auto   
 ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
 
 I still can't burn onto a dvdrw.
 
 Can anyone offer any enlightenment?

man fstab and look up ro


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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Jack Coates
Yes, Sympa sucks... but... I'm afraid I don't know what you're talking
about on the other thing. These two are both upgrades from 9.0:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ grep home /usr/share/msec/perm.3
/home/  root.root   755
/home/* current 711
[EMAIL PROTECTED] jack]$ grep home /usr/share/msec/perm.3
/home/  root.root   755
/home/* current 711

This one is a fresh install:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep home /usr/share/msec/perm.3
/home/  root.root   755
/home/* current 711

Oh, I see -- when ls'ing the home directory, it's clear that the default
umask was picked up at directory creation.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] root]# grep umask /etc/profile
umask 022

So others can read files that are known to exist. Others cannot browse
into the directory and look for unknown files though.

On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 17:53, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
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 I don't have much hope that this message will actually make it to the list but 
 what the hell (I haven't seen a single message all weekend...AGAIN...I think 
 I will drop off the list, it is too broken to be of any more use).
 
 For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up 'til now 
 I was the only user.  I found that the default behavior/security (not) 
 setting allowed all users to access all other user's home directories.  No 
 limits!  What is this?!  That is the same as no security at all.  I went into 
 DrakConf and set the security level to high and this fixed the horrific 
 insecurity of the default setup, but it also unfortunately fired up shorewall 
 with settings that prevented me from being able to access the system remotely 
 - - I often connect my laptop via ethernet (crossover cable) to my desktop and 
 transfer files, fix things that have frozen or broken on the desktop, etc.  I 
 found that I could no longer ssh into my desktop when I really needed to in 
 order to correct an X freeze up.  Unfortunately, because I couldn't get in I 
 had to hard reboot.  
   So...what is the deal with default (medium?) security settings in Mandrake 
 9.1 allowing all users to access all other user's home directories?  This is 
 windoze behavior for gawds sake.  Then, why would it be necessary to block 
 all ssh connections - a secure shell, afterall, with the next higher setting 
 (required to get home directories cordoned off from prying user eyes)?
 
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Re: [expert] Setting up Cyrus-imapd/Posfix under Mdk-9.1

2003-06-30 Thread Martin Fahrendorf
Am Sonntag, 29. Juni 2003 02:14 schrieb Joerg Mertin:
 Hi Folks,

 I have a slight problem with the Cyrus Server n a box I have (Via EPIA
 5000 running Mandrake 9.1). I tried the cyrus-imapd version 2.1.12 from
 Contrib.

 Actually - the cyrus-imapd works, and the postfix Server too - if both
 ae not connected - but I get the followig mssage in the Postfix logs:

 -Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient---
 15AD9B26E   394 Sat Jun 28 18:34:04  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 (connect to /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp]: No
 such file or directory)
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hi,

your solution solved one point. But I think you don't know the reason. In 
standard mdk9.1 postfix runs chroot, so does the lmtp process. That means, 
the file /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp is there but postfix/lmtp needs this file 
in /var/spool/postfix/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp. A hardlink should solve the 
prolem too. 

I think the new cyrus package solved this by adding the link or moving the 
socket into the postfix chroot jail.

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Re: [expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:51:48 -0700 (PDT) David Guntner
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
 
  No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how
  to spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent
  Parent process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that
  spawns it dies it doesn't die.  What I need is to have the parent
  process spawn the new process, then complete itself and die.  While
  the child becomes independent and continues it's life until it
  completes it's actions.
 
 man nohup.
 
 --Dave

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Re: [expert] OT: Determining Memory Speed

2003-06-30 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Sunday June 29 2003 07:16 pm, Brian Schroeder wrote:
 Thanks Tom and Olaf for your replies.  I will have a play with
 Sandra and see what I come up with.

 Brian.

 At 01.24 27/06/2003, you wrote:
 Does anyone know of an easy way to work out the rating of
 SDram  (ie. 66, 100, 133)?  Obviously, in cases where it isn't
 actually written on the stick.

 Ram is what it'll do. Use Sandra if you want, but any info you 
get from it is suspect, probly incorrect. Memory most often runs at 
the same mhz as the FSB, cept for some motherboards that allow 
setting the ram mhz asyncronis to FSB. On those boards it's a 
serious performance hit to set mhz timing of the ram below the 
cpu's FSB speed (eg, 100mhz for the ram when usin a 133mhz FSB 
cpu).

As I said before, the only ram timings that really matter are 
mhz, cas, and bank-interleaving. Best timings are highest mhz the 
ram (and cpu) can run at with -0- errors at cas2, 4-bank while 
keeping a reasonable PCI bus speed.  Memtest86 is a decent check, 
very much better than Sandra, and memtest86 will display the ram's 
(as timed in bios) mb/sec in the upper left corner so you can see 
what is achevied by changing bios timing options. 

 'Cept for ram with SPD onboard the stick, and SPD enabled in 
bios (which IMO it never should be), ram doesn't dictate what speed 
it runs at, the motherboard and bios timings do. The only part left 
to the ram is whether or not it can keep up ;)
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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Robert W.
On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 19:53, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
 For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up 'til now 
 I was the only user.  I found that the default behavior/security (not) 
 setting allowed all users to access all other user's home directories.  No 
 limits!  What is this?!  That is the same as no security at all.  I went into 
 DrakConf and set the security level to high and this fixed the horrific 
 insecurity of the default setup, but it also unfortunately fired up shorewall 
 with settings that prevented me from being able to access the system remotely 

1) Mandrake Control Center
2) Security
3) Security Permissions
4) Choose editable from the drop down box
5) Add /home/* with the permissions you want.

Next time msec runs, it will reset the permissions on the /home/*
directories. And you won't need the higher security level (with
shorewall).

-- 
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Got it! Re: [expert] Parent vs Child

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 07:01, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 05:51:48 -0700 (PDT) David Guntner
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  James Sparenberg grabbed a keyboard and wrote:
  
   No this is not spam for a talk show.  :)  I'm trying to find out how
   to spawn a process from a shell script that becomes an independent
   Parent process not a child process.  Such so that if the Parent that
   spawns it dies it doesn't die.  What I need is to have the parent
   process spawn the new process, then complete itself and die.  While
   the child becomes independent and continues it's life until it
   completes it's actions.
  
  man nohup.
  
  --Dave
 
 also: man bash, see disown 


Thankyou one and all.  The obvious was staring me in the face and danged
if I could see it.  

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing hell

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Monday 30 June 2003 07:01 am, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:08:22 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]

 wrote:
  Eieew, 20+ megs...I have a dialup and don't see downloading smoothwall
  in this lifetime.  I tried shorewall and setting it up via the nice
  drakconf frontend but it completely borked my ability to connect to the
  internet, seemingly regardless of what settings I made (as to allowing
  what to access, etc).

 http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/stronger-firewall-examples.htm
l

 is about as low download impact as you can get...  using it on a 21.6kb
 line at the moment -- sucks compared to my DSL; but the script tracks the
 dialup IP. The only problem I've had with it was a ~30sec delay each time
 I checked mail from my server...  This was solved by adding a rule to
 allow ident from the server; I can provide the changes if you need them...

I would appreciate it if you would provide your changes...just in case.  I'll 
try the script as is and see how it goes, then try your changes as needed.

Thank you for the link.  

praedor

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Re: [expert] rpm db problems

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:11, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
 Hi List!
 
 I had a problem with rpmdrake and now not even rpm --rebuilddb is working.
 
 Any other suggestion?  I cannot reboot the computer.
 
 Thanks in advance,

cd /var/lib/rpm and remove files like __db.001 etc (note it's two
leading underscores) then try again.

James

 
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Re: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread Tom Brinkman
On Monday June 30 2003 04:37 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
 On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:20, Brian Parish wrote:
  I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently.  Can
  anyone say anything definitive about the error correction issue
  that apparently applied to WD drives?  There was a series of
  threads on the Mandrake groups - probably a year back now - in
  which some people including Civileme talked about WD drives
  relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC 

CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check), not ECC

  and therefore being 
  subject to corruption when used with linux.
 
  If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or
  whatever, it would be great to know.  As it stands I am
  reluctant to use them, but maybe I'm missing out on a great
  product.
 
  TIA
  Brian

 Not only is it not fixed... I personally feel it's gotten worse. 
 I was forced to install during a recent install fest on a number
 of WD drives and to be honest not a one of them worked worth a
 dang.  I could never get one to work reliably above UDMA2 (nor
 could winders, which is how we got them for free.) If all of
 those drives hadn't been donated I personally wouldn't have done
 anything but trash them.

 James

Brian, better than taking anecdotal opinions from various 
Mandrake lists (BTW, I believe James' opinion is valid), a better 
source than even civileme is the lkml (linux-kernel ml). WD's still 
continue to be reported as problem drives due to lack of proper CRC 
checking. Used with Linux the usual kernel guru's advice is to 
never use them above udma2 (ata/33), or disable udma altogether for 
WD drives. This will not alleviate the data corruption problems 
WD's inflict when placed on the same ide channel with certain other 
brand drives tho.
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Re: [expert] Connection sharing hell

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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We have a single phoneline, my wife's a vet and is often on call so I cannot 
(very often) let my puter stay connected unattended for real long periods.  
Plus...my ISP (my job/university) loosely limits each connection to 90 
minutes (primarily during high usage periods).  I will try urpmi from the CLI 
with the switches...it would just be so much easier if MandrakeUpdate would 
do this too (I like to see a nice clean list of available packages that I can 
select or not and then leave it to do its thing).

praedor

On Monday 30 June 2003 05:18 am, KevinO wrote:
 Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  Eieew, 20+ megs...I have a dialup and don't see downloading smoothwall in
  this lifetime.

 I am just now getting over having to live with a 26.4Kbps dialup connection
 for the last few years...

 Smoothwall took 2 hours or so download at THAT speed.

 Just start the download late in the evening and go watch a movie or
 something...

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Re: [expert] Postfix Relay question...

2003-06-30 Thread Ralph Crongeyer
Hi all thanks for the responses. Yea /32 should work I'll give it a try later 
today. I don't know why I diden't think of that myself?? Anyway thanks for 
all your help.

Ralph

On Thursday 26 June 2003 08:39 pm, Björn Rhoads wrote:
 On Friday 27 June 2003 00.12, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   I don't know of a way to limit it to a single host rather than a
   network. Why would you want to?
  
   Miark
 
  Cuz I use e-mail from home. And at home I'm using a cable connection and
  don't
  want to open up the server to everyone on my network.
 
  Ralph :-)
 
   On Thu, 26 Jun 2003 14:10:04 -0400
  
   Ralph Crongeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   OK, thanks to everyone's help it looks like I got my MTA configured
   right now.
  
   Good.
  
   How can I allow a single client (IP address) besids the $mynetworks =
   111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24 variable or can I do it with that
   variable like
   $mynetworks = 111.222.333.0/24, 222.333.444.0/24, 333.444.555.10/24.
   Is that possable?

 Can't you just use a /32?
 $mynetworks = 111.222.233.10/32 should be just one host.

 /Björn

   What is the best solution for this??
  
   I don't know of a way to limit it to a single host rather than a
   network. Why would you want to?
  
   Miark
  
  
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Re: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 07:45, Tom Brinkman wrote:
 On Monday June 30 2003 04:37 am, James Sparenberg wrote:
  On Sat, 2003-06-28 at 20:20, Brian Parish wrote:
   I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently.  Can
   anyone say anything definitive about the error correction issue
   that apparently applied to WD drives?  There was a series of
   threads on the Mandrake groups - probably a year back now - in
   which some people including Civileme talked about WD drives
   relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC 
 
 CRC (Cyclic Redundancy Check), not ECC
 
   and therefore being 
   subject to corruption when used with linux.
  
   If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or
   whatever, it would be great to know.  As it stands I am
   reluctant to use them, but maybe I'm missing out on a great
   product.
  
   TIA
   Brian
 
  Not only is it not fixed... I personally feel it's gotten worse. 
  I was forced to install during a recent install fest on a number
  of WD drives and to be honest not a one of them worked worth a
  dang.  I could never get one to work reliably above UDMA2 (nor
  could winders, which is how we got them for free.) If all of
  those drives hadn't been donated I personally wouldn't have done
  anything but trash them.
 
  James
 
 Brian, better than taking anecdotal opinions from various 
 Mandrake lists (BTW, I believe James' opinion is valid), a better 
 source than even civileme is the lkml (linux-kernel ml). WD's still 
 continue to be reported as problem drives due to lack of proper CRC 
 checking. Used with Linux the usual kernel guru's advice is to 
 never use them above udma2 (ata/33), or disable udma altogether for 
 WD drives. This will not alleviate the data corruption problems 
 WD's inflict when placed on the same ide channel with certain other 
 brand drives tho.

Tom,
   There is a reason why they are the cheap drives.  I've not got hard
evidence on this but indications that the Winders solution to the WD
problem is to do the crc's in software rather than in firmware.  Which
to me means a greater CPU load and lowered performance IMHO.  I believe
Tom's Hardware has also done some benchmarking on Drives in the last
year that might add data to the pile.

James


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Re: [expert] radeon 8500

2003-06-30 Thread Charles A Edwards
On Mon, 23 Jun 2003 23:59:51 -0600
Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Found something else that worked pretty good...  I documented it on
 the wiki.
 
 Went from 320FPS to about 2200FPS... much nicer.  EQ runs pretty good
 in winex now, and NWN looked pretty good for the 10s before it
 crashed.
 
With a 9600Pro I had been settling for using vesa and its 320FPS.

After theses discussions and looking at your wiki entry I decided to
give the ATI drivers a shot.

I can now get 4200FPS+

There are still a couple of caveats with fglrxconfig and the 9600.
1)If I use the actual horz and vert sync rate for my monitor, a 19'
  Hatachi CM751, either by manually entering the setting or by using
  XFdrake to select my specific monitor X fails to start with No usable
  screen found.
  If I select the max values given by fglrxconfig for both horz
  and vert sync  X will start without problem.
2)I must still use vga=normal or the system will not boot.


Charles

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Re: [expert] HELP - ext3 filesystem data loss?!

2003-06-30 Thread Larry Sword
Andrei Raevsky wrote:

Hi,

My computer gave me a message during boot up saying that there were
problems in my root filesystem.  He proceeded to check them and then
suggested that he could fix them but that some data might get lost.  I
pressed yes and let him proceed.  During the recovery process some
inodes and segments files seemed to have been identified as lost and
deleted (I do not remember the exact message).  After fixing the problem
the computer booted up normally but now I get messages such as Can't
write file /var/log/linuxconf/netconf.log
I am running ext3 journalling filesystem which I thought would record the
location of all my files every 5 sec.  However, data was lost.  Why?!
Can you explain what happened?  And should I take any special action?

Thanks,

Andrei

 

Check to verify that the file exist and check write permissions. If no 
file then as Root do a :

touch /var/log/netconfig.log

This should set the file in place for writing.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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On Monday 30 June 2003 10:31 am, Robert W. wrote:
 On Sun, 2003-06-29 at 19:53, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
  For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up
  'til now I was the only user.  I found that the default behavior/security
  (not) setting allowed all users to access all other user's home
  directories.  No limits!  What is this?!  That is the same as no security
[...]
 1) Mandrake Control Center
 2) Security
 3) Security Permissions
 4) Choose editable from the drop down box
 5) Add /home/* with the permissions you want.

 Next time msec runs, it will reset the permissions on the /home/*
 directories. And you won't need the higher security level (with
 shorewall).

Danka.  This nonetheless begs the question...why should this even be 
necessary?  By this I mean why should it be necessary to actively alter 
default settings so that all users don't have access to each other's home 
dirs?  I am not really faulting Mandrake here (unless their defaut settings 
and perms are more lenient  than other distro defaults.  To my thinking, the 
default should never be to permit even read access to another's home.  
There's no call for that unless some idiot user decides to give other 
people access to his/her home dir.  This accessibility should be a no-no by 
default regardless of distro.  

praedor
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RE: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread Albert Charron
I have 3 computers running Linux on WD HardDrives: 2 comps on 40gigs (1
UDMA3 because the MB doesn't support above this and the other at UDMA5)
and 1 comp on 80gigs (UDMA5)without a problem.  For now, they are the
only drives that I didn't go through problems...  Got a lot of problems
with Maxtor and IBM HD...  Don't know if I'm only lucky with WD or if
I'm not with the other :P

Albert

-Original Message-
From: Brian Parish [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Saturday, June 28, 2003 11:20 PM
To: expert
Subject: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)


I've seen a few recommendations for WD drives recently.  Can anyone say
anything definitive about the error correction issue that apparently
applied to WD drives?  There was a series of threads on the Mandrake
groups - probably a year back now - in which some people including
Civileme talked about WD drives relying on W$ drivers to implement ECC
and therefore being subject to corruption when used with linux.

If this has been fixed, or was a hideous slur on WD, or whatever, it
would be great to know.  As it stands I am reluctant to use them, but
maybe I'm missing out on a great product.

TIA
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Re: [expert] Setting up Cyrus-imapd/Posfix under Mdk-9.1

2003-06-30 Thread Luca Olivetti
En/na Martin Fahrendorf ha escrit:

I think the new cyrus package solved this by adding the link or moving the 
socket into the postfix chroot jail.


Nope, I didn't change that (and it shouldn't touch the configuration 
while upgrading anyway). But I don't know what got in cvs, since it's 
still at 2.1.12-7mdk while I'm at 2.1.13-2mdk

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[expert] rpm db problems

2003-06-30 Thread Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva

Hi List!

I had a problem with rpmdrake and now not even rpm --rebuilddb is working.

Any other suggestion?  I cannot reboot the computer.

Thanks in advance,

Cheers,

-- 
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---
 Laboratório de Física Biológica
  Instituto de Biofísica Carlos Chagas Filho
   Universidade do Brasil/UFRJ
Rio de Janeiro, Brasil

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Re: [expert] Bittorrent

2003-06-30 Thread Richard Bown
Thanks Torstein
maybe I'll wait a bit,as I can use bittorrent running windows in win4lin
OK..

mvh

Richard
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 11:47, Torstein Dybdahl wrote:
 Hi.
 
 To use bittorrent with mozilla you have to add the mime-type 
 x-bittorrent so that it launches the btdownloadgui.
 
 like in opera it is
 application/x-bittorrent filetype .torrent
 and laynces btdownloadgui.py
 
 
 I have not realy succedded with making it work well inside a browser.
 so i used to copy .torrent file to a folder and launched
 btdownloadcurses.py file.torrent
 
 this used to work.
 Havent tested bittorrent since the major article in BBC.
 
 Regards
 Torstein
 richard bown wrote:
  Hi all
  Ive been using bittorrent on windows for a while, works fine
  
  So I thought I'd try the linux version of the client, so downloaded the
  rpm from cooker built it and installed the files and the gui.
  Its been written in python, and each of the binaries seems to do
  something.
  But what it dos'nt do is handle the download .ie. if you click on the
  download icon on say downloadparadise all you get is a screen full of
  garbage.
  The documentation I've found is'nt very helpfull.
  Has anyone tried this ,and if so how did they get it to work.
  Ive tried xmule and that works fine, the trouble is there most of the
  sites are just full of p0rn..
  TIA
  
  Richard
  
  
  
  
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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 12:46:00PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:

   For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up
   'til now I was the only user.  I found that the default behavior/security
   (not) setting allowed all users to access all other user's home
   directories.  No limits!  What is this?!  That is the same as no security
 [...]
  1) Mandrake Control Center
  2) Security
  3) Security Permissions
  4) Choose editable from the drop down box
  5) Add /home/* with the permissions you want.
 
  Next time msec runs, it will reset the permissions on the /home/*
  directories. And you won't need the higher security level (with
  shorewall).
 
 Danka.  This nonetheless begs the question...why should this even be 
 necessary?  By this I mean why should it be necessary to actively alter 
 default settings so that all users don't have access to each other's home 
 dirs?  I am not really faulting Mandrake here (unless their defaut settings 
 and perms are more lenient  than other distro defaults.  To my thinking, the 
 default should never be to permit even read access to another's home.  
 There's no call for that unless some idiot user decides to give other 
 people access to his/her home dir.  This accessibility should be a no-no by 
 default regardless of distro.  

This was done, IIRC, to allow people to have a ~/public_html/ directory and
allow apache to enter the home directory so as to read ~/public_html/ (which
would allow someone to do something like http://yoursite.com/~preador/).
That's pretty much the reasoning for it IIRC.  That being said, there is
nothing stopping you from doing a higher security level or modifying the
defaults.

I also believe that a user can enter another user's home dir but will get a
permission denied if they do an ls.  Other permissions protect the files in
the homedir.  The homedir should have execute-only perms.  But, taking a
quick look, it seems that is not the case.  H.

That does kind of suck.  msec used to do execute-only perms on homedirs... I
wonder why it decided that read/execute perms was an ok thing to do.

I'll see if I can't find out.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir


--- Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  There's no call for that unless some idiot user decides
  to give other people access to his/her home dir.  This
  accessibility should be a no-no by default regardless of
  distro.  
 
 This was done, IIRC, to allow people to have a ~/public_html/
 directory and allow apache to enter the home directory so as
 to read ~/public_html/ (which would allow someone to do
 something like http://yoursite.com/~preador/).
 That's pretty much the reasoning for it IIRC.  That being
 said, there is nothing stopping you from doing a higher
 security level or modifying the defaults.
 
 I also believe that a user can enter another user's home dir
 but will get a permission denied if they do an ls.  Other
 permissions protect the files in the homedir.  The homedir
 should have execute-only perms.  But, taking a quick look, it
 seems that is not the case.  H.
 
 That does kind of suck.  msec used to do execute-only perms
 on homedirs... I wonder why it decided that read/execute
 perms was an ok thing to do.
 
 I'll see if I can't find out.
 

Yes, this does sound serious.  Haven't run into difficulties yet, but I
would like to fix this on my system here when you find out what's going
on.

You da man, Vincent! :)

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 12:10:00PM -0600, Vincent Danen wrote:

[...]
 I also believe that a user can enter another user's home dir but will get a
 permission denied if they do an ls.  Other permissions protect the files in
 the homedir.  The homedir should have execute-only perms.  But, taking a
 quick look, it seems that is not the case.  H.
 
 That does kind of suck.  msec used to do execute-only perms on homedirs... I
 wonder why it decided that read/execute perms was an ok thing to do.

My mistake.  I had msec level 2 on my workstation which is why it was
read/execute perms.  Changing to level 3 gives back the appropriate homedir
perms.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread David James

 
 I also believe that a user can enter another user's home dir but will get a
 permission denied if they do an ls.  Other permissions protect the files in
 the homedir.  The homedir should have execute-only perms.  But, taking a
 quick look, it seems that is not the case.  H.
 
 That does kind of suck.  msec used to do execute-only perms on homedirs... I
 wonder why it decided that read/execute perms was an ok thing to do.
 
 I'll see if I can't find out.

This behaviour was also in mandrake 9.0 or the one before that i
believe, i remember reading it in a news group and being very surprised,
mandrake should tighten the permissions up regarding users.

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[expert] 9.1 / XFree86 4.3: choosing compose map

2003-06-30 Thread Peter Møller Neergaard
I am having a US keyboard but would like my Multi_Key to choose
ligatures from the Latin 1 Compose map.  How do I accomplish this?

I have tried including the following in /etc/sysconfig/i18n

  SYSFONTACM=iso15
  LC_TELEPHONE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_CTYPE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LANGUAGE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_MONETARY=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_ADDRESS=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_COLLATE=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_NAME=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_PAPER=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_NUMERIC=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  SYSFONT=lat0-16
  LC_TIME=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_MEASUREMENT=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LANG=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_MESSAGES=en_US.ISO-8859-1
  LC_IDENTIFICATION=en_US.ISO-8859-1

I can see that I get the right settings after starting X, but I do not
get any ligatures.  

I have also tried  adding the following lines to
/usr/X11R6/lib/X11/locale/compose.dir 
  
  iso8859-1/Compose C
  iso8859-1/Compose en_US.ISO-8859-1
  iso8859-1/Compose en_US
  
to force a specific map.  That has been in vain as well.

Any help is appreciated.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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  at all.  I went into DrakConf and set the security level to high and
  this fixed the horrific insecurity of the default setup, but it also
  unfortunately fired up shorewall with settings that prevented me from
  being able to access the system remotely

I see...but is it really a good idea to permit execute perms to any and 
sundry?  I used to think that if there were a linux virus/worm to be 
concerned about that the worst that could happen under normal circumstances 
is that a user who received and executed a viral script  would possibly trash 
his own home and that's it.  Now I see that this is not accurate...ALL users 
could trash their homes by executing a bad script/executable in ANY infected 
user's home.  The default setup makes this possible...and most new users 
wont bother (or think to bother) to change home perms.

praedor

On Monday 30 June 2003 01:10 pm, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 12:46:00PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:
For the first time I added a couple more users to my home system.  Up
'til now I was the only user.  I found that the default
behavior/security (not) setting allowed all users to access all other
user's home directories.  No limits!  What is this?!  That is the
same as no security
 
  [...]
 
   1) Mandrake Control Center
   2) Security
   3) Security Permissions
   4) Choose editable from the drop down box
   5) Add /home/* with the permissions you want.
  
   Next time msec runs, it will reset the permissions on the /home/*
   directories. And you won't need the higher security level (with
   shorewall).
 
  Danka.  This nonetheless begs the question...why should this even be
  necessary?  By this I mean why should it be necessary to actively alter
  default settings so that all users don't have access to each other's home
  dirs?  I am not really faulting Mandrake here (unless their defaut
  settings and perms are more lenient  than other distro defaults.  To my
  thinking, the default should never be to permit even read access to
  another's home. There's no call for that unless some idiot user decides
  to give other people access to his/her home dir.  This accessibility
  should be a no-no by default regardless of distro.

 This was done, IIRC, to allow people to have a ~/public_html/ directory and
 allow apache to enter the home directory so as to read ~/public_html/
 (which would allow someone to do something like
 http://yoursite.com/~preador/). That's pretty much the reasoning for it
 IIRC.  That being said, there is nothing stopping you from doing a higher
 security level or modifying the defaults.

 I also believe that a user can enter another user's home dir but will get a
 permission denied if they do an ls.  Other permissions protect the files in
 the homedir.  The homedir should have execute-only perms.  But, taking a
 quick look, it seems that is not the case.  H.

 That does kind of suck.  msec used to do execute-only perms on homedirs...
 I wonder why it decided that read/execute perms was an ok thing to do.

 I'll see if I can't find out.

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Re: [expert] rpm db problems

2003-06-30 Thread Björn Olsson
On 30 Jun 2003 James Sparenberg wrote::

 On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:11, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
  Hi List!
  
  I had a problem with rpmdrake and now not even rpm --rebuilddb is
  working.
  
  Any other suggestion?  I cannot reboot the computer.
  
  Thanks in advance,
 
 cd /var/lib/rpm and remove files like __db.001 etc (note it's two
 leading underscores) then try again.
 
 James
 
  
  Cheers,


James,

What are these files for? I've got two of them in my folder and one of
them seems to contain info from some installed rpms, among other things.

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Re: [expert] Setting up Cyrus-imapd/Posfix under Mdk-9.1

2003-06-30 Thread Joerg Mertin
Hi Martin,

I had actually checked the chroot-stuff with Postfix and the 
cyrus-imapd/unixlmtp - but that wasn't the problem.

I think it had rather something to do with the CPU I have in that 
system. The VIA C3 Ezra 533MHz CPU is actually not a fully compatible 
pentium class CPU - so there are some packages I do need to recompile - 
which in this case I did with Cyrus (Didn't ty the 2.1.12 recompile 
though). I had a similar issue with the usb-based WiFi (amtel) driver 
which crashed the system hard. However - I did perform some Hard-Stress 
Tests now - and even if the CPU goes up to 80 C, itis still rock stable 
(the C3 CPU can withstand much higher temperatures than the AMD/Intel 
CPU's. So - I'm nearly finished with my installation... Soon to go live :)

Thx again for your Hint - though it was written in the README Files that 
the Postfix installation needed to be adapted, and this part was there 
too ...

Cheers

	Joerg

Martin Fahrendorf wrote:
Am Sonntag, 29. Juni 2003 02:14 schrieb Joerg Mertin:

Hi Folks,

I have a slight problem with the Cyrus Server n a box I have (Via EPIA
5000 running Mandrake 9.1). I tried the cyrus-imapd version 2.1.12 from
Contrib.
Actually - the cyrus-imapd works, and the postfix Server too - if both
ae not connected - but I get the followig mssage in the Postfix logs:
-Queue ID- --Size-- Arrival Time -Sender/Recipient---
15AD9B26E   394 Sat Jun 28 18:34:04  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
(connect to /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp[/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp]: No
such file or directory)
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Hi,

your solution solved one point. But I think you don't know the reason. In 
standard mdk9.1 postfix runs chroot, so does the lmtp process. That means, 
the file /var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp is there but postfix/lmtp needs this file 
in /var/spool/postfix/var/lib/imap/socket/lmtp. A hardlink should solve the 
prolem too. 

I think the new cyrus package solved this by adding the link or moving the 
socket into the postfix chroot jail.

Martin


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[expert] what now?

2003-06-30 Thread Praedor Atrebates
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I just tried using urpmi as some suggested here when I made feature request 
wrt mandrakeupdate.  I know I am not 100% updated so I should get something 
to update.  Instead I get:

]#urpmi --noclean --auto --auto-select
medium Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1) is not selected

What does this mean?

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Re: [expert] rpm db problems

2003-06-30 Thread Torstein Hernes Dybdahl
Hi-
These files comes from when rpm is killed without killing its child
processes.
Then the rpm database is open and locked for other rpm processes.

There is more info on this on an errata at
rpm.org.


Regards Torstein

On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Björn Olsson wrote:

 On 30 Jun 2003 James Sparenberg wrote::

  On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:11, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
   Hi List!
  
   I had a problem with rpmdrake and now not even rpm --rebuilddb is
   working.
  
   Any other suggestion?  I cannot reboot the computer.
  
   Thanks in advance,
 
  cd /var/lib/rpm and remove files like __db.001 etc (note it's two
  leading underscores) then try again.
 
  James
 
  
   Cheers,


 James,

 What are these files for? I've got two of them in my folder and one of
 them seems to contain info from some installed rpms, among other things.

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Re: [expert] what now?

2003-06-30 Thread Steffen Barszus
Am Montag, 30. Juni 2003 22:56 schrieb Praedor Atrebates:
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 I just tried using urpmi as some suggested here when I made feature request
 wrt mandrakeupdate.  I know I am not 100% updated so I should get something
 to update.  Instead I get:

 ]#urpmi --noclean --auto --auto-select
 medium Installation CD 1 (x86) (cdrom1) is not selected

 What does this mean?

What you want is 'urpmi --update --noclean --auto --auto-select' or in case 
you want this too for other media you can specify them with --media switch. 
Hmmm otherwise this message should not come (tried here). 

As I understood you want load your updates with slow dialup. Maybe the 
cooksync.pl could be adapted for this. 

Greet

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Lyvim Xaphir


--- Vincent Danen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  homedirs... I wonder why it decided that read/execute perms
  was an ok thing to do.
 
 My mistake.  I had msec level 2 on my workstation which is
 why it was read/execute perms.  Changing to level 3 gives
 back the appropriate homedir perms.
 

This sounds alot like that root window situation of mine recently. ;) 
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Why is KDE better? (Re: [expert] 9.1 / XFree86 4.3: choosing compose map)

2003-06-30 Thread Peter Møller Neergaard
Playing around a little more, I realized that it works under KDE, but
not under WindowMaker and IceWM.  

That leaves me more puzzled---I thought that this configuration worked
at the level of the X server and thus should be independent of the
window manager.

What is it that KDE does that other Window Managers fail to do?

Thanks

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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-30 Thread Dave Sherman
Robert Crawford wrote:
Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup. 

However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could try is 
copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to it's own 
directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing it as root in 
/usr/src, especially for people like me still learning).Then make a backup of 
your .config file, and cd in a console (as user) to the new directory in 
/home where you copied the MDK kernel sources to, and run mrproper. Then, try 
applying the Hz patch. If it applies OK, do a make xconfig and load the copy 
of your stock .config file into xconfig., Then change the value of the Hz 
line to =1000Hz, and save and exit.

 VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the file 
to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied, otherwise 
if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version) is the same, 
it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not create a new -ck2 
version. In your case, that would be a disaster.

Then you can (as user) do:

make dep
make clean
make bzImage
make modules
If you get through these with no error outs, you are probably OK, and will 
then know the patch probably didn't cause any problem. Up to this point, 
nothing you have done could possibly affect your current kernel setup.

If you want to actually install, su to root and do:

make modules_install

This will put a new modules directory in /lib/modules with the new -ck2 
version name, leaving the original untouched.

I never do the usual final make install to call the kernel script after that 
if I'm not compiling in /usr/src. I did that once, and had huge problems. I 
manually copy System.map and bzImage to /boot, naming them to reflect the 
extra version, like System.map-2.4.21-ck2, and bzImage-2.4.21-ck2. I then 
edit lilo, and since I don't use an initrd file for the new kernel, I delete 
the initrd line in the new kernel's lilo stanza, so it looks like:

image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3
label=2421ck3
root=/dev/hda10
append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet
vga=788
read-only
Then save, and run lilo as root.

Of course there's no way to know if doing all this will actually increase 
system response in a noticable way, even if the patch applies on the MDK 
kernel, without actually doing it. I can report that all the ck patches I've 
applied seem to work great on the vanilla 2.4.21.
Well, I was following this thread over the weekend, and so today I went 
ahead and followed your directions. I installed the multimedia kernel 
and source, then booted into the Mandrake multimedia kernel to make sure 
it worked - it did, at least as good as the stock Mandrake kernel.

So, I went ahead and downloaded the patch, and patched the mm kernel 
source, which I had copied and chowned into $HOME/src/. The patch had 
two minor failures, which I was able to manually fix (I've never even 
patched a kernel before, let alone had to manually patch some source 
code because the patch failed - but it was easy).

I check the Makefile, and sure enough I also had to edit the 
extra-version info to indicate 'ck2' so I wouldn't blow away my existing 
multimedia kernel modules.

Everything compiled without errors, so I went ahead and installed the 
modules and kernel. I am running the patched mm kernel right now, and it 
performs at least as well as the stock kernel and (unpatched) mm kernel. 
Not sure how to do any performance benchmarks, but at least nothing is 
broken!

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[expert] Serial ATA harddisk !!

2003-06-30 Thread Rodrigo
Dear All
 I have been trying to install mandrake 9.1 on my new computer, ...
 .. it comes with a SerialATA Harddisk  (Silicon Image 3112 controller)
I did a clean mdk 9.1 installation, but when I reboot,  the computer 
died ...
...I was reading about this particular issue, and It seems  that mdk9.1
support  Serial ATA disk  ...  It is true ?

(mobo: Asus P4G8X deluxe ... )

Any Idea ?

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Re: [expert] Connection sharing hell

2003-06-30 Thread Pierre Fortin
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 10:27:33 -0500 Praedor Atrebates [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

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 On Monday 30 June 2003 07:01 am, Pierre Fortin wrote:
  On Sun, 29 Jun 2003 10:08:22 -0500 Praedor Atrebates
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  wrote:
   Eieew, 20+ megs...I have a dialup and don't see downloading
   smoothwall in this lifetime.  I tried shorewall and setting it up
   via the nice drakconf frontend but it completely borked my ability
   to connect to the internet, seemingly regardless of what settings I
   made (as to allowing what to access, etc).
 
  http://en.tldp.org/HOWTO/IP-Masquerade-HOWTO/stronger-firewall-examples.htm
 l
 
  is about as low download impact as you can get...  using it on a
  21.6kb line at the moment -- sucks compared to my DSL; but the script
  tracks the dialup IP. The only problem I've had with it was a ~30sec
  delay each time I checked mail from my server...  This was solved by
  adding a rule to allow ident from the server; I can provide the
  changes if you need them...
 
 I would appreciate it if you would provide your changes...just in case. 
 I'll try the script as is and see how it goes, then try your changes as
 needed.
 
 Thank you for the link.  
 
 praedor

# Setting a few other local variables
#
UNIVERSE=0.0.0.0/0
### added addr of mail server here:
SERVER=1.2.3.4/32

### Added this:
# identd - Enable the following lines if you need identd for your mailhost
#
echo -e   - Allowing EXTERNAL access to the identd server
$IPTABLES -A INPUT -i $EXTIF -m state --state NEW,ESTABLISHED,RELATED \
 -p tcp -s $SERVER -d $EXTIP --dport 113 -j ACCEPT

### just before this:
#
# - End OPTIONAL INPUT Section -

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Bill Mullen
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003, Praedor Atrebates wrote:

 I see...but is it really a good idea to permit execute perms to any and
 sundry?  I used to think that if there were a linux virus/worm to be
 concerned about that the worst that could happen under normal
 circumstances is that a user who received and executed a viral script
 would possibly trash his own home and that's it.  Now I see that this is
 not accurate...ALL users could trash their homes by executing a bad
 script/executable in ANY infected user's home.  The default setup makes
 this possible...and most new users wont bother (or think to bother) to
 change home perms.

But execute permissions on a /directory/ only affect the ability of the
user/group-member/other to cd _into_ that directory - they have no bearing
on the executability of the *files* therein, which must have their execute
permissions set (for that level of user) in order to be runnable by them.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 02:12:35PM -0500, Praedor Atrebates wrote:

   at all.  I went into DrakConf and set the security level to high and
   this fixed the horrific insecurity of the default setup, but it also
   unfortunately fired up shorewall with settings that prevented me from
   being able to access the system remotely
 
 I see...but is it really a good idea to permit execute perms to any and 
 sundry?  I used to think that if there were a linux virus/worm to be 
 concerned about that the worst that could happen under normal circumstances 
 is that a user who received and executed a viral script  would possibly trash 
 his own home and that's it.  Now I see that this is not accurate...ALL users 
 could trash their homes by executing a bad script/executable in ANY infected 
 user's home.  The default setup makes this possible...and most new users 
 wont bother (or think to bother) to change home perms.

I don't think you understand the relevance of the execute bit on a directory
versus on a file.  On a directory, execute permissions let you into the
directory.  That's it.  It doesn't allow you to execute stuff in the
directory, it doesn't allow you to get the directory contents, and it
doesn't allow you to write to the directory.

For all intents and purposes, you can do a cd ~vdanen and see, touch, etc.
absolutely nothing unless those permissions provided it *and* you know what
you're looking for.  This is why it's used when people do the ~/public_html/
bit.  apache needs to get into ~/ in order to get into ~/public_html.
Giving it the ability to do so is not, by itself, a security flaw.

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[expert] Problems with 2.4.21-18mdk

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
Got the parts in to repair my laptop So the first thing I did was
reload the OS as the / partition got mighty hosed by the IDE controller
going south.  After doing that I did the normal upgrades etc.  Along the
way I decided to try out the 2.4.18mdk kernel.  This is where the sound
fun began.  

Hardware.

Compaq Armada M700 500mhz Celeron Coppermine 

Sound ES1978 Maestro 2E (ESS Technology) 

Running MDK 9.1

Ok with kernel build 13mdk xmms and sound work as expected.  When I boot
to 18mdk the fun begins. 

xmms can no longer play mp3's from the hdd.  (noatune has the same
problem) constantly complaining that something else has /dev/dsp. 
mpg123 from a command line can play it ok IF I first leave runlevel 5. 
If I try to listen to streaming audio with xmms via say shoutcast.  I
have to restart sound (/etc/init.d/sound restart) but only after first 
connecting with the site to hear the output.  

Note also that dev/dsp dev/dspx and dsp56k get created by devfs  Now
when I boot to 13mdk or to 16mm (the multimedia kernel) it (devfs)
creates the devices in the correct place /dev/sound/[device name] and
sound works all over.  I can even play an mp3.  

Note too that I use the OSS sound drivers as they support my sound chip
and alsa doesn't.  No problem.. whatever works.  The problem can be
duplicated simply by rebooting into build 18mdk.  

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Re: [expert] rpm db problems

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 13:19, Björn Olsson wrote:
 On 30 Jun 2003 James Sparenberg wrote::
 
  On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 08:11, Alan Wilter Sousa da Silva wrote:
   Hi List!
   
   I had a problem with rpmdrake and now not even rpm --rebuilddb is
   working.
   
   Any other suggestion?  I cannot reboot the computer.
   
   Thanks in advance,
  
  cd /var/lib/rpm and remove files like __db.001 etc (note it's two
  leading underscores) then try again.
  
  James
  
   
   Cheers,
 
 
 James,
 
 What are these files for? I've got two of them in my folder and one of
 them seems to contain info from some installed rpms, among other things.
 
 /Björn Olsson
 
 
 __
They are the temp files created when running rpm --rebuilddb.  They
should, when a successful rebuild is completed get deleted.  The problem
is that if something interrupts the rebuild (Human, segfault, whatever)
they get left behind and wind up confusing rpm the next time around.

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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 01:11:34PM -0700, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:

   homedirs... I wonder why it decided that read/execute perms
   was an ok thing to do.
  
  My mistake.  I had msec level 2 on my workstation which is
  why it was read/execute perms.  Changing to level 3 gives
  back the appropriate homedir perms.
 
 This sounds alot like that root window situation of mine recently. ;) 
 g

Sorta... =)  I thought for sure I was using msec 3 since that's what I
always use.  Not sure why I had msec 2 on that machine.  Wierd.

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Re: [expert] pioneer dvr-105 issues UPDATE

2003-06-30 Thread Azrael
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 14:33, Pierre Fortin wrote:
 On 29 Jun 2003 23:36:40 +0100 Azrael [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  In my /etc/fstab (due to k3bsetup) I have:
  
  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder auto
  ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
  /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target1/lun0/cd/mnt/cdrecorder1auto   
  ro,noauto,user,exec 0 0
  
  I still can't burn onto a dvdrw.
  
  Can anyone offer any enlightenment?
 
 man fstab and look up ro

I'm aware ro means read-only. I don't see what this has to do with my
problem, as I can record with the CDRW drive, but not the DVD-RW drive.

Note also a previous respondent suggested letting k3b add entries to
fstab, and that is what I did, and the above demonstrates this.

I still can't burn onto DVDs. Note I spent all day sorting my system out
to dual boot windows XP, installed it, and spent hours cursing as it
crashed and hung every hour or so for one reason or another, reminding
me exactly why I use linux, and teaching me a lesson for threatening
(and carrying out) an install of windows.

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Re: [expert] script help

2003-06-30 Thread michael
Yeah, that might be a good idea :-)  Well, I'm doing great; I answer my
email about once a week!
Well, I've thought about that occasionally - restoring that is.  I guess
I'd have to just reload the system and then copy the target files back to
their original places.

I'll have to play with that on a test box...

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Hey thanks Mark!  Sorry to take so long responding; I forgot to renew my
 domain name and wasn't getting any mail - please don't ask :}
 thanks again!  mike

 No problem Mike. Glad I could help. I have yet to need to restore from
 any of the backups I've been making with it, ( thank God ), but I guess
 I should start working out just how to do that just in case.

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Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.21-18mdk

2003-06-30 Thread Vincent Danen
On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 10:27:23AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:

 Got the parts in to repair my laptop So the first thing I did was
 reload the OS as the / partition got mighty hosed by the IDE controller
 going south.  After doing that I did the normal upgrades etc.  Along the
 way I decided to try out the 2.4.18mdk kernel.  This is where the sound
 fun began.  
 
 Hardware.
 
 Compaq Armada M700 500mhz Celeron Coppermine 
 
 Sound ES1978 Maestro 2E (ESS Technology) 
 
 Running MDK 9.1
 
 Ok with kernel build 13mdk xmms and sound work as expected.  When I boot
 to 18mdk the fun begins. 
 
 xmms can no longer play mp3's from the hdd.  (noatune has the same
 problem) constantly complaining that something else has /dev/dsp. 
 mpg123 from a command line can play it ok IF I first leave runlevel 5. 
 If I try to listen to streaming audio with xmms via say shoutcast.  I
 have to restart sound (/etc/init.d/sound restart) but only after first 
 connecting with the site to hear the output.  
 
 Note also that dev/dsp dev/dspx and dsp56k get created by devfs  Now
 when I boot to 13mdk or to 16mm (the multimedia kernel) it (devfs)
 creates the devices in the correct place /dev/sound/[device name] and
 sound works all over.  I can even play an mp3.  
 
 Note too that I use the OSS sound drivers as they support my sound chip
 and alsa doesn't.  No problem.. whatever works.  The problem can be
 duplicated simply by rebooting into build 18mdk.  

Hmmm... really strange.  I wonder if something with the ESS drivers
changed... I can't duplicate this here; I've been using xmms quite happily
with the 18mdk and the other kernel we're working on.  I've fwd'd this
message to Juan in the hopes that he has some ideas.

Can anyone else with this same soundcard duplicate this?  Does devfs
correctly create /dev/dsp when you boot with 18mdk?

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[expert] Changes to the ps command

2003-06-30 Thread Albert E. Whale, CISSP
I have been running Mandrake since version 6.

My recent install for 9.1 has developed a compatibility issue with PSAD 
(Port Scan Attack Detector).

What is the reason (or Login) behind the deprecation of the dash on the 
ps -ax command?

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Re: [expert] RPM binary doesn't seem to be working

2003-06-30 Thread Albert E. Whale, CISSP


Rick Salsa wrote:

Hi,

I've come across something that I haven't seen before, but my RPM binary
doesn't seem to work. If I try to install or upgrade any RPMs, it just
sits and doesn't do anything.
rpm -qa, rpm --help, and rpm --version work, but that's it. I tried rpm
--list to see if the last rpm installed might have done something, but
that doesn't work either. Any ideas on what might be up or how to fix
this? Mandrake 8.2
Thanks,
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ails you.

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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-30 Thread Robert Crawford
Dave,
Sounds like you had great success! So, we now know at least that Hz patch can 
be added to the already heavily patched Mandrake kernels. Could you please 
post some info on the two minor patch failures, and how you fixed them?

The only benchmarking tools I know of for Linux are one called bonnie and 
glxgears, but there must be more. I haven't really investigated those things 
since I switched to Linux a year ago. I did run the Sandra benchmarks pretty 
often when I used Windows, and was learning how to tweak win98 and XP to the 
max.

Robert 


On Monday 30 June 2003 18:07, Dave Sherman wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:
  Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup.
 
  However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could try
  is copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to it's
  own directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing it as
  root in /usr/src, especially for people like me still learning).Then make
  a backup of your .config file, and cd in a console (as user) to the new
  directory in /home where you copied the MDK kernel sources to, and run
  mrproper. Then, try applying the Hz patch. If it applies OK, do a make
  xconfig and load the copy of your stock .config file into xconfig., Then
  change the value of the Hz line to =1000Hz, and save and exit.
 
   VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the
  file to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied,
  otherwise if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version)
  is the same, it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not
  create a new -ck2 version. In your case, that would be a disaster.
 
  Then you can (as user) do:
 
  make dep
  make clean
  make bzImage
  make modules
 
  If you get through these with no error outs, you are probably OK, and
  will then know the patch probably didn't cause any problem. Up to this
  point, nothing you have done could possibly affect your current kernel
  setup.
 
  If you want to actually install, su to root and do:
 
  make modules_install
 
  This will put a new modules directory in /lib/modules with the new -ck2
  version name, leaving the original untouched.
 
  I never do the usual final make install to call the kernel script after
  that if I'm not compiling in /usr/src. I did that once, and had huge
  problems. I manually copy System.map and bzImage to /boot, naming them to
  reflect the extra version, like System.map-2.4.21-ck2, and
  bzImage-2.4.21-ck2. I then edit lilo, and since I don't use an initrd
  file for the new kernel, I delete the initrd line in the new kernel's
  lilo stanza, so it looks like:
 
  image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3
  label=2421ck3
  root=/dev/hda10
  append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet
  vga=788
  read-only
 
  Then save, and run lilo as root.
 
  Of course there's no way to know if doing all this will actually increase
  system response in a noticable way, even if the patch applies on the MDK
  kernel, without actually doing it. I can report that all the ck patches
  I've applied seem to work great on the vanilla 2.4.21.

 Well, I was following this thread over the weekend, and so today I went
 ahead and followed your directions. I installed the multimedia kernel
 and source, then booted into the Mandrake multimedia kernel to make sure
 it worked - it did, at least as good as the stock Mandrake kernel.

 So, I went ahead and downloaded the patch, and patched the mm kernel
 source, which I had copied and chowned into $HOME/src/. The patch had
 two minor failures, which I was able to manually fix (I've never even
 patched a kernel before, let alone had to manually patch some source
 code because the patch failed - but it was easy).

 I check the Makefile, and sure enough I also had to edit the
 extra-version info to indicate 'ck2' so I wouldn't blow away my existing
 multimedia kernel modules.

 Everything compiled without errors, so I went ahead and installed the
 modules and kernel. I am running the patched mm kernel right now, and it
 performs at least as well as the stock kernel and (unpatched) mm kernel.
 Not sure how to do any performance benchmarks, but at least nothing is
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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 16:38, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 01:11:34PM -0700, Lyvim Xaphir wrote:
 
homedirs... I wonder why it decided that read/execute perms
was an ok thing to do.
   
   My mistake.  I had msec level 2 on my workstation which is
   why it was read/execute perms.  Changing to level 3 gives
   back the appropriate homedir perms.
  
  This sounds alot like that root window situation of mine recently. ;) 
  g
 
 Sorta... =)  I thought for sure I was using msec 3 since that's what I
 always use.  Not sure why I had msec 2 on that machine.  Wierd.

Betcha you'd upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1, because I just found out from
today's festivities that both of the machine's I've done it on are now
at msec 2.
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Re: [expert] Security or lack thereof

2003-06-30 Thread Jack Coates
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:47, Jack Coates wrote:
...
 Betcha you'd upgraded from 9.0 to 9.1, because I just found out from
 today's festivities that both of the machine's I've done it on are now
 at msec 2.

oops, spoke too soon -- only one of those actually changed its level.
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Re: [expert] Problems with 2.4.21-18mdk

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 19:47, Vincent Danen wrote:
 On Mon Jun 30, 2003 at 10:27:23AM -0700, James Sparenberg wrote:
 
  Got the parts in to repair my laptop So the first thing I did was
  reload the OS as the / partition got mighty hosed by the IDE controller
  going south.  After doing that I did the normal upgrades etc.  Along the
  way I decided to try out the 2.4.18mdk kernel.  This is where the sound
  fun began.  
  
  Hardware.
  
  Compaq Armada M700 500mhz Celeron Coppermine 
  
  Sound ES1978 Maestro 2E (ESS Technology) 
  
  Running MDK 9.1
  
  Ok with kernel build 13mdk xmms and sound work as expected.  When I boot
  to 18mdk the fun begins. 
  
  xmms can no longer play mp3's from the hdd.  (noatune has the same
  problem) constantly complaining that something else has /dev/dsp. 
  mpg123 from a command line can play it ok IF I first leave runlevel 5. 
  If I try to listen to streaming audio with xmms via say shoutcast.  I
  have to restart sound (/etc/init.d/sound restart) but only after first 
  connecting with the site to hear the output.  
  
  Note also that dev/dsp dev/dspx and dsp56k get created by devfs  Now
  when I boot to 13mdk or to 16mm (the multimedia kernel) it (devfs)
  creates the devices in the correct place /dev/sound/[device name] and
  sound works all over.  I can even play an mp3.  
  
  Note too that I use the OSS sound drivers as they support my sound chip
  and alsa doesn't.  No problem.. whatever works.  The problem can be
  duplicated simply by rebooting into build 18mdk.  
 
 Hmmm... really strange.  I wonder if something with the ESS drivers
 changed... I can't duplicate this here; I've been using xmms quite happily
 with the 18mdk and the other kernel we're working on.  I've fwd'd this
 message to Juan in the hopes that he has some ideas.
 
 Can anyone else with this same soundcard duplicate this?  Does devfs
 correctly create /dev/dsp when you boot with 18mdk?

Note ... 18mdk is working correctly on 5 other boxes with different
Hardware.  

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RE: [expert] Western Digital drives and error correction (ECC)

2003-06-30 Thread Brian Parish
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 00:51, Albert Charron wrote:
 I have 3 computers running Linux on WD HardDrives: 2 comps on 40gigs (1
 UDMA3 because the MB doesn't support above this and the other at UDMA5)
 and 1 comp on 80gigs (UDMA5)without a problem.  For now, they are the
 only drives that I didn't go through problems...  Got a lot of problems
 with Maxtor and IBM HD...  Don't know if I'm only lucky with WD or if
 I'm not with the other :P
 
 Albert
 
 __
It may well be that this is no longer a problem, although anecdotal
evidence as quoted earlier suggests that there are still issues with
some WD drives.  This thread is also running in parallel on the Linux
Users Victoria group.  Chris Samuels posted as follows:
-
The nub of the matter is explained in this kernel-traffic posting from
2000 at:

http://kt.zork.net/kernel-traffic/kt2214_54.html#2

to quote:

# WDC drives blow off the CRC check of UDMA.This is BAD and
STUPID. 
# Several of the OEM chipset makers have allowed this crap to exist.
ATA-2
# (style) can not handle ATA-3/4 transfer rates without the CRC checks,
you
# end up continuing the DMA writing regardless if you lost data that
would
# have been saved if the UDMA CRC was intact.
#
# This is a pure hardware issueI do not know yet if there is a
way to
# check/recover with out death to DMAing for all WDC products. The best
case
# at the moment is to consider blocking all WDC products from using the
ATA-3
# and newere standard.
-

Again though, this is old info and may no longer apply.  In the absence
of specific information to the contrary though, I will continue to avoid
them, while recognizing that this could well be punishment for past
sins.

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Re: [expert] RPM binary doesn't seem to be working

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:31, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 Rick Salsa wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 I've come across something that I haven't seen before, but my RPM binary
 doesn't seem to work. If I try to install or upgrade any RPMs, it just
 sits and doesn't do anything.
 
 rpm -qa, rpm --help, and rpm --version work, but that's it. I tried rpm
 --list to see if the last rpm installed might have done something, but
 that doesn't work either. Any ideas on what might be up or how to fix
 this? Mandrake 8.2
 
 Thanks,
 /rick
 
I did this to myself one time... stupidly I'll admit (I actually did an
rpm -e rpm -Uvh somerpm and yes deleted rpm) .  What I did was boot to
the rescue disk... then copied the rescue disks copy of rpm to the
mounted home dir (for me that would be /mnt/home/james) where I also had
a copy of the rpm rpm.  Then I did chroot /mnt to make sure I was
working/writing only on my HDD  Finally I did ./rpm -ivh
rpm.x.i586.rpm --force  This rewrote my rpm files and I was back in
business.  A quick check would be to run a command like rpm -qil rpm
 or some similar command you couldn't run before. This should work
and a reboot should get you going again.

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Re: [expert] Re: New 2.4.21 Variable HZ question.

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:43, Robert Crawford wrote:
 Dave,
 Sounds like you had great success! So, we now know at least that Hz patch can 
 be added to the already heavily patched Mandrake kernels. Could you please 
 post some info on the two minor patch failures, and how you fixed them?

Yes please please please! *grin*
 
 The only benchmarking tools I know of for Linux are one called bonnie and 
 glxgears, but there must be more. I haven't really investigated those things 
 since I switched to Linux a year ago. I did run the Sandra benchmarks pretty 
 often when I used Windows, and was learning how to tweak win98 and XP to the 
 max.
 
 Robert 
 
 
 On Monday 30 June 2003 18:07, Dave Sherman wrote:
  Robert Crawford wrote:
   Waiting sounds wise- no use in messing up your current setup.
  
   However, if you really wanted to see if it will apply, what you could try
   is copying your stock MDK kernel sources directory from /usr/src to it's
   own directory in /home. (Compiling there is much safer than doing it as
   root in /usr/src, especially for people like me still learning).Then make
   a backup of your .config file, and cd in a console (as user) to the new
   directory in /home where you copied the MDK kernel sources to, and run
   mrproper. Then, try applying the Hz patch. If it applies OK, do a make
   xconfig and load the copy of your stock .config file into xconfig., Then
   change the value of the Hz line to =1000Hz, and save and exit.
  
VERY IMPORTANT:Check the makefile extra version line at the top of the
   file to see if it added the -ck2 extra version when the patch applied,
   otherwise if you do choose to install this kernel and the name (version)
   is the same, it will overwrite your original modules directory, and not
   create a new -ck2 version. In your case, that would be a disaster.
  
   Then you can (as user) do:
  
   make dep
   make clean
   make bzImage
   make modules
  
   If you get through these with no error outs, you are probably OK, and
   will then know the patch probably didn't cause any problem. Up to this
   point, nothing you have done could possibly affect your current kernel
   setup.
  
   If you want to actually install, su to root and do:
  
   make modules_install
  
   This will put a new modules directory in /lib/modules with the new -ck2
   version name, leaving the original untouched.
  
   I never do the usual final make install to call the kernel script after
   that if I'm not compiling in /usr/src. I did that once, and had huge
   problems. I manually copy System.map and bzImage to /boot, naming them to
   reflect the extra version, like System.map-2.4.21-ck2, and
   bzImage-2.4.21-ck2. I then edit lilo, and since I don't use an initrd
   file for the new kernel, I delete the initrd line in the new kernel's
   lilo stanza, so it looks like:
  
   image=/boot/bzImage-2.4.21-ck3
 label=2421ck3
 root=/dev/hda10
 append=devfs=mount hdc=ide-scsi acpi=off quiet
 vga=788
 read-only
  
   Then save, and run lilo as root.
  
   Of course there's no way to know if doing all this will actually increase
   system response in a noticable way, even if the patch applies on the MDK
   kernel, without actually doing it. I can report that all the ck patches
   I've applied seem to work great on the vanilla 2.4.21.
 
  Well, I was following this thread over the weekend, and so today I went
  ahead and followed your directions. I installed the multimedia kernel
  and source, then booted into the Mandrake multimedia kernel to make sure
  it worked - it did, at least as good as the stock Mandrake kernel.
 
  So, I went ahead and downloaded the patch, and patched the mm kernel
  source, which I had copied and chowned into $HOME/src/. The patch had
  two minor failures, which I was able to manually fix (I've never even
  patched a kernel before, let alone had to manually patch some source
  code because the patch failed - but it was easy).
 
  I check the Makefile, and sure enough I also had to edit the
  extra-version info to indicate 'ck2' so I wouldn't blow away my existing
  multimedia kernel modules.
 
  Everything compiled without errors, so I went ahead and installed the
  modules and kernel. I am running the patched mm kernel right now, and it
  performs at least as well as the stock kernel and (unpatched) mm kernel.
  Not sure how to do any performance benchmarks, but at least nothing is
  broken!
 
 
 
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Re: [expert] Changes to the ps command

2003-06-30 Thread James Sparenberg
On Mon, 2003-06-30 at 20:11, Albert E. Whale, CISSP wrote:
 I have been running Mandrake since version 6.
 
 My recent install for 9.1 has developed a compatibility issue with PSAD 
 (Port Scan Attack Detector).
 
 
 What is the reason (or Login) behind the deprecation of the dash on the 
 ps -ax command?

Personaly ... I think it was an application of the If it ain't broke,
fix it. school of thought.

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Re: [expert] Again, no messages

2003-06-30 Thread charlie
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 12:48 am, Praedor Atrebates had this to contribute :-
 So yet again the list is generating no traffic (for me at least).  What's
 up?

same here for a day 30 June in Oz

Charlie

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Re: [expert] HELP - ext3 filesystem data loss?!

2003-06-30 Thread charlie
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:31 am, Andrei Raevsky had this to contribute :-
 My computer gave me a message during boot up saying that there were
 problems in my root filesystem.  He proceeded to check them and then
 suggested that he could fix them but that some data might get lost.  I
 pressed yes and let him proceed.

Hi Andrei,

I am unable to explain what happens but can tell you what to do when it does, 
say yet to the first question, which i no longer recall. Within the 5 second 
limit, but on the second question, say no. 
Then I think Ctrl+d and the system will reboot and will again check the file 
system and continue without any problems.

For various reasons my system has been exited uncleanly [power dropped out 
etc.] and I found that this is the way it will recover without any data loss. 
Works a treat.

Charlie.

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Re: [expert] pioneer dvr-105 issues UPDATE

2003-06-30 Thread charlie
On Mon, 30 Jun 2003 08:36 am, Azrael had this to contribute :-
 I still can't burn onto a dvdrw.

Maybe change your driver?

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