Re: Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tommy Wareing wrote on Sat, Dec 14, 2002 at 01:46:06AM + : mailbox. (And therefore, if I'm cc'd as well, I'll get one copy in each of two boxes). The two most recent message without the X-Loop header were: From: Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator. Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:37:45 +0100 Message-Id: atae0p$v16$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: expert@ which can't be filtered on the Sender: field. I'd guess X-Loop: got truncated due to originating within Mandrake. Don't use Sender: :) Mandrake has an internal news-server which the lists are gateway'd to and from. If it is posted to the news-server, the Sender will be set to [EMAIL PROTECTED] by the gateway program and Sympa (apparently) doesn't rewrite it. Filter on X-Loop:.expert@ Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has been clipped for some reason I'm not going to guess at. Looks like I'd better remove linux-mandrake.com from my filter. Again, don't filter on Sender. Filter on X-Loop or X-BeenThere. Those are the only two that are reliable. Blue skies... Todd - -- ...and I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger, those who attempt to poison and destroy my binaries, and you will know my name is root, when I lay my vengeance upon thee. Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9/Qdelp7v05cW2woRAj6RAKCAhofnWkQ6aDM4zde54uVW1of7fwCgsK/V e98mOVewweO6qLBHgwYMGEU= =iMmT -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:29:02AM -0800, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 06:37:47PM +0100 : Hmm, my mail proggy acts like he should: In the header of the mailing list I see a From: and a Reply-to: line. When I hit 'g' (ReplyAll) the proggy asks: Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [Yes] No? So I just hit [Enter] and no doubles go out. When I hit 'n' the mail goes to the address in the From: line. Again no doubles. Add to your .muttrc: subscribe expert@ While we're at it, what's the recommended method for identifying this mailing list? I've got :0: * ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake-expert in my .procmailrc, but there's a noticable chunk of the messages which don't contain this header. (And I don't approve of filtering mailing lists according the To: or CC: as that won't differentiate between duplicate copies sent to the list and to myself.) -- T. Our three main weapons are Sarcasm, Ignorance, and Denial. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
On Friday, December 13, 2002, at 02:44 AM, Tommy Wareing wrote:
While we're at it, what's the recommended method for identifying this
mailing list?
I've got
:0:
* ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
mandrake-expert
in my .procmailrc, but there's a noticable chunk of the messages which
don't contain this header.
(And I don't approve of filtering mailing lists according the To: or
CC: as that won't differentiate between duplicate copies sent to the
list and to myself.)
I think probably the most accurate way would be to use the Return-Path
header which should always be set to [EMAIL PROTECTED].
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Re: Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tommy Wareing wrote on Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:44:17AM + : Add to your .muttrc: subscribe expert@ I've got :0: * ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake-expert in my .procmailrc, but there's a noticable chunk of the messages which don't contain this header. Really? It always has this for me. Go look at http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/mutt.html and look for the procmail section. There's a stanza for getting rid of duplicates. The only problem with it is that if someone cc's you and the list, then only the first one gets through (usually the direct email) so it shows up in your inbox instead of the list you're filtering to. Is it possible that the chunk of messages you're talking about is where you are cc'd on list mail? (And I don't approve of filtering mailing lists according the To: or CC: as that won't differentiate between duplicate copies sent to the list and to myself.) Agreed. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Mandrake: An amalgam of good ideas from RedHat, Debian, and MandrakeSoft. All in all, IMHO, an unbeatable combination. --Levi Ramsey on Cooker ML Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+m1llp7v05cW2woRAmc5AJ9mCOeYDyGhX7LYvDG7Bk86W40ppQCdE1Za h8OB8EjICEPRlk5wZ6JWgb4= =4ysH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: Mailing list Identification (was Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion)
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 03:29:41PM -0800, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tommy Wareing wrote on Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 09:44:17AM + : Add to your .muttrc: subscribe expert@ I've got :0: * ^X-Loop: [EMAIL PROTECTED] mandrake-expert in my .procmailrc, but there's a noticable chunk of the messages which don't contain this header. Really? It always has this for me. Go look at http://www.cerritoslug.org/tutorials/mutt.html and look for the procmail section. There's a stanza for getting rid of duplicates. The only problem with it is that if someone cc's you and the list, then only the first one gets through (usually the direct email) so it shows up in your inbox instead of the list you're filtering to. Is it possible that the chunk of messages you're talking about is where you are cc'd on list mail? I'm not trying to delete duplicates ;-) I'm trying to ensure that anything I recieve via the list goes into one mailbox, and anything I recieve because it's addressed to me goes into a personal mailbox. (And therefore, if I'm cc'd as well, I'll get one copy in each of two boxes). The two most recent message without the X-Loop header were: From: Sylvestre Taburet [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [expert] Cups/Samba pdf generator. Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 17:37:45 +0100 Message-Id: atae0p$v16$[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: expert@ which can't be filtered on the Sender: field. I'd guess X-Loop: got truncated due to originating within Mandrake. From: Gonzalo Avaria [EMAIL PROTECTED](by way of Gonzalo Avaria [EMAIL PROTECTED]) Date: Thu, 12 Dec 2002 12:36:51 -0300 Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Loop: expert@ Subject: [expert] IP look for Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] which has been clipped for some reason I'm not going to guess at. Looks like I'd better remove linux-mandrake.com from my filter. -- Tommy Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Here's my output for rpm -qa|grep glibc. Since it returns glibc, I assume rpm is OK? [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ rpm -qa|grep glibc glibc-devel-2.2.5-16mdk glibc-2.2.5-16mdk [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ On Wednesday 11 December 2002 06:52 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 06:28 pm, flacycads wrote: I had already removed the fstab entry, and did a shutdown, reboot- problems still remain- no rpmdrake functionality, and the weird no access to text files- even new ones, except by right clicking and open with. Here's the mount output- no usb camera connected. -- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ mount /dev/hda12 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) As Todd mentioned, the usb dir already exists so the entry in fstab isn't needed (a Debian thing). Can you do an rpm -qa|grep glibc? I pull this one out my buttocks as it doesn't matter which package you look for. If it is successful, then your rpm db is OK. If it fails, you may need to run rpm --rebuilddb, and a failure might explain urpmi problems. I don't understand your problems - I've never come across anything like that before. I've had my own problems that pop up at random sometimes: X goes south and I cannot start up any window manager and have to reconstruct my XF86Config-4 file, KDE wont start so I ultimately delete all my /tmp/ksocket*, /tmp/orbit*, and /tmp/mcop* directories as well as my .kde directory and .DCOP* files to get it back (having to reset my preferences). The closest I've come to your ownership problem was the perms on all my /home directory files, etc, got changed from praedor praedor to 502 praedor. I couldn't alter any of them (except as root), could edit anything, all my config files were unusable. Your perms are really OK? Your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? Before having to reinstall from scratch, however, if I were you, with my moderate knowledge (enough to cause trouble and _sometimes_ get out of it), I would save whatever files I wanted to save in my home directory to some safe location, delete everything in my /home directory, and relogin. You'll be redoing all your personal settings but it beats reinstalling (save your bookmarks, addressbooks, files/docs that are important). praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you see/try Fransisco's methods/suggestions? He indicates success with multiple cameras. Your db is probably OK. Another post from Todd(?) indicated the urpmi problems might be associated with a hung mount. Is there anything of interest in your .xsession-errors file? In the syslogs? praedor On Thursday 12 December 2002 09:43 am, flacycads wrote: Here's my output for rpm -qa|grep glibc. Since it returns glibc, I assume rpm is OK? [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ rpm -qa|grep glibc glibc-devel-2.2.5-16mdk glibc-2.2.5-16mdk [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.6 (GNU/Linux) Comment: For info see http://www.gnupg.org iD8DBQE9+KGNmkm5RO1gX9cRAoOEAJ9HeUIxlRolxqrGtymjLwkm8f2n7ACaAtj6 2EOfKjjUGeVaZbTXUYnzltM= =V2Qe -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Todd, I assume you mean by upgrade to use the cd1 9.0 install disk. I'll try removing gphoto2 rpms as you said. Here's the post you asked for. Sorry it's so long. Update- tried to remove gphoto2 in rpmdrake, but it said a bunch of kde packages needed to be removed, so I opted out. Anyway, rpmdrake now works again. I can't be sure how, or why, except I had removed all those entries for the digital camera trip. I removed and installed another smaller package as a test. It was incredibly slow. It seems to hang with my cdrom blinking in patterens of 9 blinks for about 3-4 minutes. Then the tray opens, and asks for the cd, as normal. I'm using a Lite on 48x12x48 cd burner as the cdrom on this machine, and the 9 blink hang up doesn't happen on my backup machine with a regular cdrom drive, and a standard 9.0 installation. Apparently, this has something to do with the cd burner doubling as the cdrom drive. Is there any way to correct this huge slow down? It's as if it's going through some long involved and unnecessary procedure before rpmdrake can install/remove anything. Robert -- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ ls ~ 2002-September.txt.gz exportkdeDIR.php order.asp 293450 ForumAnswers/ partitionimage/ 9.0Documentation/ gentooSTUFF/ person-counter.pl 9.0misc/ gFTPfaq.html phoenixCompile.php 9.0rpms/ gnome/ Photos/ 9.0StarterGuide/ GNUstep/ piszcz.html 94.sud grid.gif Quandary Files/ ALLkde/groups/res_aolm-faq.html allkernels/howto/ rmelkdos.exe AllTopics.gif HowToNov-2002/ RoseGarden/ autosave/ kernels/ s1-rpmrc-file-rpmrc-file-entries.html AwardBiosflash.htmlKonqServiceMenus.html sensors-detect.pl* backups/ KX7/ shockwaveTIPs.php banks/ Linux 2002/softCOOLINGtrick.php blackbox-menu Linux Info/srpms/ bootdisk/ M5ALC_Product.htm supermountBScdrom camera.htmlMail/ tarballs/ camerrors md5sums/ test35 camerrors~ Misctext/ test35~ camquestions MiscTips/ test 36 camquestions~ mkCDrecDocumentation/ texstarMOZ12 cardorder mkisofs.outthemes/ cdburning/ morebootdisks/ tmp/ chInstallfaq.php mplayer/ topCOMandM.php CompileTips/ msLinuxfonts.html tqhvit1.html Desktop/ musixTex/ tut1.asp Directory/ NewFAQs/ unlockXP.html DocumentationProject/ NewKernelUpgrade/ URPMIarticle.php Documents/ NOV257.HTM urpmiINFOupdates DRAKErescueSYS.htmlnvidia/videos/ DrakeUserBoards/ nvlinuxforum1.php xpquestion Drivers/ nvlinuxforum2.php DuronStuff/optimize/ -- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ ls -l ~ total 1456 -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 1071 Nov 9 09:35 2002-September.txt.gz -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 4753 Nov 13 14:14 293450 drwxr-xr-x5 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Nov 5 16:27 9.0Documentation/ drwxrwxr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 12:40 9.0misc/ drwxrwxr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 14:37 9.0rpms/ drwxr-xr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Nov 5 14:55 9.0StarterGuide/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 14076 Nov 17 09:47 94.sud drwxrwxr-x3 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 12:13 ALLkde/ drwxr-xr-x5 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 15:40 allkernels/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 28603 Nov 15 05:51 AllTopics.gif drwxrwxr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Jul 5 21:46 autosave/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 47550 Nov 5 10:54 AwardBiosflash.html drwxrwxr-x3 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 12:29 backups/ drwxr-xr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 12:37 banks/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 10565 Dec 11 15:24 blackbox-menu drwxrwxr-x3 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Aug 25 07:45 bootdisk/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 3586 Dec 11 14:18 camera.html -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 2073 Dec 11 16:24 camerrors -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 690 Dec 11 16:24 camerrors~ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 1787 Dec 11 15:53 camquestions -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 1787 Dec 11 15:52 camquestions~ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 739 Nov 19 22:27 cardorder drwxrwxr-x3 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Nov 2 10:04 cdburning/ -rw-r--r--1 wrc1944 wrc1944 6403 Nov 26 08:32 chInstallfaq.php drwxr-xr-x2 wrc1944 wrc1944 4096 Dec 11 12:30 CompileTips/ drwxr-xr-x4 wrc1944
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Praedor, I'm getting double emails of your posts- same time stamp, and same message. Robert On Thursday 12 December 2002 09:47 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Did you see/try Fransisco's methods/suggestions? He indicates success with multiple cameras. Your db is probably OK. Another post from Todd(?) indicated the urpmi problems might be associated with a hung mount. Is there anything of interest in your .xsession-errors file? In the syslogs? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flacycads wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:50:53AM -0500 : Praedor, I'm getting double emails of your posts- same time stamp, and same message. Because he's cc'ing you when he replies to list mails. That's standard procedure. I don't do it personally because my mail client has some special functionality, but most people just hit ReplyAll and that's good enough to make it work. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+Lsplp7v05cW2woRAtk5AKDKXNJQmeXA6gDrfvapinhw3NfLgACdFNIx eGAGIZ2cT4WCIUrF/2UdpPI= =To0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
procmail is your friend -- look for pm-jadup.rc On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:36, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flacycads wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:50:53AM -0500 : Praedor, I'm getting double emails of your posts- same time stamp, and same message. Because he's cc'ing you when he replies to list mails. That's standard procedure. I don't do it personally because my mail client has some special functionality, but most people just hit ReplyAll and that's good enough to make it work. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+Lsplp7v05cW2woRAtk5AKDKXNJQmeXA6gDrfvapinhw3NfLgACdFNIx eGAGIZ2cT4WCIUrF/2UdpPI= =To0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:26 -0800, Jack Coates wrote: procmail is your friend -- look for pm-jadup.rc Hmm, my mail proggy acts like he should: In the header of the mailing list I see a From: and a Reply-to: line. When I hit 'g' (ReplyAll) the proggy asks: Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [Yes] No? So I just hit [Enter] and no doubles go out. When I hit 'n' the mail goes to the address in the From: line. Again no doubles. It's Mutt. wobo On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 08:36, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flacycads wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:50:53AM -0500 : Praedor, I'm getting double emails of your posts- same time stamp, and same message. Because he's cc'ing you when he replies to list mails. That's standard procedure. I don't do it personally because my mail client has some special functionality, but most people just hit ReplyAll and that's good enough to make it work. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com Easy things should be easy, and hard things should be possible. --Larry Wall Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+Lsplp7v05cW2woRAtk5AKDKXNJQmeXA6gDrfvapinhw3NfLgACdFNIx eGAGIZ2cT4WCIUrF/2UdpPI= =To0K -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Thu, 2002-12-12 at 09:37, Wolfgang Bornath wrote: On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 09:26 -0800, Jack Coates wrote: procmail is your friend -- look for pm-jadup.rc Hmm, my mail proggy acts like he should: In the header of the mailing list I see a From: and a Reply-to: line. When I hit 'g' (ReplyAll) the proggy asks: Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [Yes] No? So I just hit [Enter] and no doubles go out. When I hit 'n' the mail goes to the address in the From: line. Again no doubles. It's Mutt. wobo But you see, I don't know or care if your mail program handles Reply-to-all this way or that way or what way. procmail is set up to delete duplicate messages before I see them, and that has nothing to do with the MUA in use. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 06:37:47PM +0100 : Hmm, my mail proggy acts like he should: In the header of the mailing list I see a From: and a Reply-to: line. When I hit 'g' (ReplyAll) the proggy asks: Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [Yes] No? So I just hit [Enter] and no doubles go out. When I hit 'n' the mail goes to the address in the From: line. Again no doubles. Add to your .muttrc: subscribe expert@ Then hit L (capitalized, so have to hit shift). This is list-reply and it will ignore ALL followup-to and reply-to settings in the headers and reply to any subscribed addresses that it recognizes. Here's a sample from mine: subscribe agora@ all@ kernel@ club-volunteers@ cooker expert@ future@ subscribe lausd_mdk mdk-admin mdk-qmail qmail@ poptop-server@ subscribe snf@ linux-usb folder-hook . set sort=threads folder-hook Sent set sort=reverse-date mailboxes +Agora +ASA +Bugzilla +ChangeLog +Club-Volunteers +Cooker mailboxes +Expert +Inbox mailboxes +Mdk-All +Mdk-Kernel +Mdk-Future mailboxes +Mandrake\ Expert +Mandrake\ Newbie mailboxes +Mandrake-Admin +Mandrake\ Qmail +PPC +Poptop mailboxes +SNF +Templates +Trash +USB-Devel +USB-Users hdr_order Date: From: Organization: User-Agent: X-Mailer: To: Cc: \ Reply-To: Subject: ignore * unignore Date: From: Organization: User-Agent: X-Mailer: To: Cc: \ Reply-To: Subject: - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9+NVulp7v05cW2woRArkSAJ9O5hh6y4cBJ9Ng2yXNo+eAzy4OxgCghdKz EDLRU63Gl8qtkwIgIdt4jPw= =go2U -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 10:29 -0800, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wolfgang Bornath wrote on Thu, Dec 12, 2002 at 06:37:47PM +0100 : Hmm, my mail proggy acts like he should: In the header of the mailing list I see a From: and a Reply-to: line. When I hit 'g' (ReplyAll) the proggy asks: Reply to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? [Yes] No? So I just hit [Enter] and no doubles go out. When I hit 'n' the mail goes to the address in the From: line. Again no doubles. Add to your .muttrc: subscribe expert@ Then hit L (capitalized, so have to hit shift). This is list-reply and it will ignore ALL followup-to and reply-to settings in the headers and reply to any subscribed addresses that it recognizes. Here's a sample from mine: I have that already. I just wanted to demonstrate the 'g' behaviour. But thanks anyway. wobo -- If you don't understand or are scared by any of the above ask your parents or an adult to help you. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Yes, I only have the camera on USB right now. Here's my output from lspcidrake, and my /etc/modules.config. Do I need to create a /mnt/camera directory, and I read somewhere I need a line in fstab also? Is that correct? I have the probeall usb line in modules.config, but should I also add the line Praedor mentioned? Thanks, Robert - probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi probeall usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 es1371 # I2c module options alias char-major-89 i2c-dev --- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ lspcidrake unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266] unknown : VIA Technologies|VT8367 [KT266 AGP] es1371 : Ensoniq|CT5880 unknown : VIA Technologies Inc|VT8233 PCI to ISA Bridge unknown : VIA Technologies|VT82C586 IDE [Apollo] usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB usb-uhci: VIA Technologies|VT82C586B USB Card:NVIDIA GeForce2 DDR (generic): nVidia Corporation|NV11 (Geforce2 MX) unknown : Virtual|Hub [] unknown : Virtual|Hub [] [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ On Tuesday 10 December 2002 06:18 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Atrebates wrote on Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:44:14PM -0500 : If it is then I suspect you lack any mention of USB in your modules.conf file. You could enter alias usb-interface usb-uhci and Unless Praedor knows something about your machine, it probably would be best to see the results of 'lspcidrake -v' first to make sure that you actually have a uhci type usb port. Blue skies... Todd Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 10:27 am, flacycads wrote: Yes, I only have the camera on USB right now. Here's my output from lspcidrake, and my /etc/modules.config. Do I need to create a /mnt/camera directory, and I read somewhere I need a line in fstab also? Is that correct? I have the probeall usb line in modules.config, but should I also add the line Praedor mentioned? You shouldn't need to. This should load your usb module (does it?). When you do lsmod does usbcore and usb-uhci show up as loaded, but perhaps listed as [unused]? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Praedor, Do you mean what I have now with no changes, just the Mandrake install parameters, should be working? Here's the relevant lines from lsmod output. Apparently, some usb items are loaded, but there is no reference to usb-storage. I haven't got the camera at the moment- I borrow it, so there is nothing hooked up to the usb ports. Robert --- ide-scsi8212 0 scsi_mod 90372 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi] usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-uhci] rtc 6560 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 169776 5 [root@localhost wrc1944]# On Wednesday 11 December 2002 10:28 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 10:27 am, flacycads wrote: Yes, I only have the camera on USB right now. Here's my output from lspcidrake, and my /etc/modules.config. Do I need to create a /mnt/camera directory, and I read somewhere I need a line in fstab also? Is that correct? I have the probeall usb line in modules.config, but should I also add the line Praedor mentioned? You shouldn't need to. This should load your usb module (does it?). When you do lsmod does usbcore and usb-uhci show up as loaded, but perhaps listed as [unused]? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 10:51 am, flacycads wrote: Praedor, Do you mean what I have now with no changes, just the Mandrake install parameters, should be working? Here's the relevant lines from lsmod output. Apparently, some usb items are loaded, but there is no reference to usb-storage. I haven't got the camera at the moment- I borrow it, so there is nothing hooked up to the usb ports. Robert --- ide-scsi8212 0 scsi_mod 90372 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi] usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-uhci] This indicates that your basic usb system/modules are loaded. What should be loaded for your camera to work is simply the camera driver module. I am not yet familiar with digital cameras, I just have a usb printer and a usb wlan device. The printer driver loads at boot/is always installed, same goes for my wlan driver. I don't even actually need/use the uhci module - the usb-uhci module may not be necessary for you either. This is the relevant output of my lsmod: uhci 25192 0 (unused) usbcore63008 1 [usbvnetr printer uhci] In my modules.conf are entries for my wireless device only, the printer autoloads: alias eth0 usbvnetr is the line referring to my wlan device. Do you know the name of the camera module by chance? Have you simply tried plugging the camera in and doing a modprobe camera module? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
All I know is it's a Canon Powershot G2, which is listed in KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2, as one of a hundred supported cameras. I have no idea of what the name of the module should be. Again, I've opened the KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2. When I try to configure in the gui, I get things like Could not claim the usb device, could not intialize camera, Bad parameters,, and could not list folders in / Basically, all I've read indicates I need to (among countless other suggestions and instructions) create /dev/sda1, create /mnt/camera, load usb-storage module, and add a line to fstab. However, I don't know which out of hundreds of different instructions I've looked at over the last 2 weeks is correct, or how to accomplish some items. In any case, it still doesn't work. Robert C. On Wednesday 11 December 2002 11:00 am, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 10:51 am, flacycads wrote: Praedor, Do you mean what I have now with no changes, just the Mandrake install parameters, should be working? Here's the relevant lines from lsmod output. Apparently, some usb items are loaded, but there is no reference to usb-storage. I haven't got the camera at the moment- I borrow it, so there is nothing hooked up to the usb ports. Robert --- ide-scsi8212 0 scsi_mod 90372 2 [sr_mod ide-scsi] usb-uhci 21676 0 (unused) usbcore58304 1 [usb-uhci] This indicates that your basic usb system/modules are loaded. What should be loaded for your camera to work is simply the camera driver module. I am not yet familiar with digital cameras, I just have a usb printer and a usb wlan device. The printer driver loads at boot/is always installed, same goes for my wlan driver. I don't even actually need/use the uhci module - the usb-uhci module may not be necessary for you either. This is the relevant output of my lsmod: uhci 25192 0 (unused) usbcore63008 1 [usbvnetr printer uhci] In my modules.conf are entries for my wireless device only, the printer autoloads: alias eth0 usbvnetr is the line referring to my wlan device. Do you know the name of the camera module by chance? Have you simply tried plugging the camera in and doing a modprobe camera module? praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Gah. If you have a normal Mandrake install, you shouldn't need to create any device as devfs SHOULD create devices on the fly for you as a device comes on line. I just spotted a link that may get you on your way...try http://wendy.seltzer.org/vaio/camera.html Short list of how a G2 was made to work with Debian: add none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab Read the page. On Wednesday 11 December 2002 11:45 am, flacycads wrote: All I know is it's a Canon Powershot G2, which is listed in KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2, as one of a hundred supported cameras. I have no idea of what the name of the module should be. Again, I've opened the KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2. When I try to configure in the gui, I get things like Could not claim the usb device, could not intialize camera, Bad parameters,, and could not list folders in / Basically, all I've read indicates I need to (among countless other suggestions and instructions) create /dev/sda1, create /mnt/camera, load usb-storage module, and add a line to fstab. However, I don't know which out of hundreds of different instructions I've looked at over the last 2 weeks is correct, or how to accomplish some items. In any case, it still doesn't work. Robert C. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Thanks Praedor and all, I read the page, and I think I'm on the right track now. Here's the relevant stock Mandrake usb sections of the config file in /boot. There is only one difference from what that page says, in that CONFIG_USB=y is configured as a module (m). Should I recompile the kernel and change that, or load the module? Will adding the fstab line or modprobe usb-uhci load the needed module? When I get the camera back, I'll give it a try. Robert C. # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m # CONFIG_USB_DEBUG is not set # # Miscellaneous USB options # CONFIG_USB_DEVICEFS=y # CONFIG_USB_BANDWIDTH is not set # CONFIG_USB_LONG_TIMEOUT is not set # # USB Host Controller Drivers # CONFIG_USB_EHCI_HCD=m CONFIG_USB_UHCI=m CONFIG_USB_UHCI_ALT=m CONFIG_USB_OHCI=m On Wednesday 11 December 2002 12:01 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Gah. If you have a normal Mandrake install, you shouldn't need to create any device as devfs SHOULD create devices on the fly for you as a device comes on line. I just spotted a link that may get you on your way...try http://wendy.seltzer.org/vaio/camera.html Short list of how a G2 was made to work with Debian: add none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
The kernel config stuff shouldn't matter unless you are going to rebuild your kernel. As it is, having the usb drivers as modules should be OK. The parts that likely apply (from the website) are the fstab part (or the mount command in lieu of fstab editing). Let me know if you get it working...I will have occassion to deal with that particular camera soon and would like to know what I will have to do... On Wednesday 11 December 2002 01:33 pm, flacycads wrote: Thanks Praedor and all, I read the page, and I think I'm on the right track now. Here's the relevant stock Mandrake usb sections of the config file in /boot. There is only one difference from what that page says, in that CONFIG_USB=y is configured as a module (m). Should I recompile the kernel and change that, or load the module? Will adding the fstab line or modprobe usb-uhci load the needed module? When I get the camera back, I'll give it a try. Robert C. # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Don't forget to enable scsi support. It is used by usb-storage. (And cameras tend to show up as usb-storage devices.) On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Praedor Atrebates wrote: The kernel config stuff shouldn't matter unless you are going to rebuild your kernel. As it is, having the usb drivers as modules should be OK. The parts that likely apply (from the website) are the fstab part (or the mount command in lieu of fstab editing). Let me know if you get it working...I will have occassion to deal with that particular camera soon and would like to know what I will have to do... On Wednesday 11 December 2002 01:33 pm, flacycads wrote: Thanks Praedor and all, I read the page, and I think I'm on the right track now. Here's the relevant stock Mandrake usb sections of the config file in /boot. There is only one difference from what that page says, in that CONFIG_USB=y is configured as a module (m). Should I recompile the kernel and change that, or load the module? Will adding the fstab line or modprobe usb-uhci load the needed module? When I get the camera back, I'll give it a try. Robert C. # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Praedor, Well- I tried all that page suggested, as root, from command line, or gui, every way possible, and it doesn't work. The camera is obviously connected and detected, as the personal info from the owner and the model comes up. The test is successful (sometimes). Errors are listed below, for what it's worth. I've removed all changes I made, and uninstalled gphoto2 (gtkam). All that messed up my system- Software installer no longer works, and I can no longer edit any text doc in my /home partition using the mouse to open the doc. It now opens in kedit, seeming with no permissions for user, yet permissions tab under properties says user is owner, and has read, write. This is after removing all changes, and a cold reboot. Looks like I have to reinstall (Again!) I'm ready to give up on Mandrake and USB cameras. After two weeks and literally 60 hours wasted trying to get a simple digital camera to download jpgs, I'm rethinking my commitment to Linux. I've posted on forums, groups, and read everything I can find. I can't find anyone who can give me a simple 1,2,3 on how they got their Canon PowerShot to work on a generic Mandrake 9.0 install. I'm a patient 60 year old man, however, this is the sort of thing that makes people drop Linux- this and the nvidia driver insanity, and go back to windows. Anyway, to those who did try to help, I sincerely thank you, as I know you did your best. Robert Crawford Camera test successful - unspecified error could not list folders in /. canon_usb_get_dirents: canon_usb_long_dialogue failed to fetch direntrys, returned -1 Could not get file list for folder/ canon_int_list_dir: ERROR: initial message too short (0 minimum 11) Bad Parameters could not list folders in / --- Could not claim the USB device could not initilize camera Unable to initialize camera- check your port settings and camera connectivity, and try again On Wednesday 11 December 2002 05:42 am, alan wrote: Don't forget to enable scsi support. It is used by usb-storage. (And cameras tend to show up as usb-storage devices.) On Wed, 11 Dec 2002, Praedor Atrebates wrote: The kernel config stuff shouldn't matter unless you are going to rebuild your kernel. As it is, having the usb drivers as modules should be OK. The parts that likely apply (from the website) are the fstab part (or the mount command in lieu of fstab editing). Let me know if you get it working...I will have occassion to deal with that particular camera soon and would like to know what I will have to do... On Wednesday 11 December 2002 01:33 pm, flacycads wrote: Thanks Praedor and all, I read the page, and I think I'm on the right track now. Here's the relevant stock Mandrake usb sections of the config file in /boot. There is only one difference from what that page says, in that CONFIG_USB=y is configured as a module (m). Should I recompile the kernel and change that, or load the module? Will adding the fstab line or modprobe usb-uhci load the needed module? When I get the camera back, I'll give it a try. Robert C. # # USB support # CONFIG_USB=m [...] Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 04:24 pm, flacycads wrote: Praedor, Well- I tried all that page suggested, as root, from command line, or gui, every way possible, and it doesn't work. The camera is obviously connected and detected, as the personal info from the owner and the model comes up. The test is successful (sometimes). Errors are listed below, for what it's worth. I've removed all changes I made, and uninstalled gphoto2 (gtkam). All that messed up my system- Software installer no longer works, and I can no longer edit any text doc in my /home partition using the mouse to open the doc. It now opens in kedit, seeming with no permissions for user, yet permissions tab under properties says user is owner, and has read, write. This is after removing all changes, and a cold reboot. Looks like I have to reinstall (Again!) [...] What? Simply installing gphoto2 caused these other problems? I was going to suggest another option to try. Plug in the camera and run harddrake to see if it sees it and sets it up properly. Does anyone know if harddrake can handle digital camera setup? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Atrebates wrote on Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:01:56PM -0500 : add none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab [todd@fiji /spare1/certifications]$ grep usbdevfs /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit [ -f /proc/bus/usb/devices ] mount -f -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb It's already there. If his usb is configured properly in /etc/modules.conf, then /proc/bus/usb is already mounted. We need to see the result of the 'mount' command before we can guess too much more. Blue skies... Todd - -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE997eMlp7v05cW2woRAlunAKDNvTMwF8iySeYut3pygXL06dcY6QCfdNM4 JIN4hYJgp82/3wa43l/7OAU= =cUXl -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
I already had gphoto2 installed. The other problems occurred right after I added the lines to fstab and /etc/modules.conf. Now, I can open a fresh instance of kedit, write someting, save it to my home directory as test, close it, and when I reopen it with a mouse left click, I no longer can edit it, and the fonts have changed to a very tiny one. I can't explain it- the permissions are correct for user. If I right click it it, and open with kedit, all is fine. I also had done Harddrake several times and tried to let it detect the camera that way, and set it up. Didn't work, and in kde control center-information-USB devices nothing shows up but the two hubs. However, I haven't tried to do a fresh install with the camera hooked up- think that's worth a shot? On Wednesday 11 December 2002 04:49 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: On Wednesday 11 December 2002 04:24 pm, flacycads wrote: Praedor, Well- I tried all that page suggested, as root, from command line, or gui, every way possible, and it doesn't work. The camera is obviously connected and detected, as the personal info from the owner and the model comes up. The test is successful (sometimes). Errors are listed below, for what it's worth. I've removed all changes I made, and uninstalled gphoto2 (gtkam). All that messed up my system- Software installer no longer works, and I can no longer edit any text doc in my /home partition using the mouse to open the doc. It now opens in kedit, seeming with no permissions for user, yet permissions tab under properties says user is owner, and has read, write. This is after removing all changes, and a cold reboot. Looks like I have to reinstall (Again!) [...] What? Simply installing gphoto2 caused these other problems? I was going to suggest another option to try. Plug in the camera and run harddrake to see if it sees it and sets it up properly. Does anyone know if harddrake can handle digital camera setup? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Todd Lyons, in a previous post, indicates that /proc/bus/usb should already exist if your modules.conf file is properly setup. The thing to try before going through a reinstall is to undo what you last did that led up to the current problem: remove the fstab entry you added. In this case it may be a quirk with debian (a more hands-on, doityourself distro) that such a line needs to be added to fstab. Remove the fstab entry, logout and login again and see if you get your system back the way it should be. Mandrake 9.0 uses kernel 2.4.19. That kernel has been nothing but trouble for me on usb and other issues. The problems prevent me from going to 9.0 - I am sticking with 8.2 which fully works for me (kernel 2.4.18). After undoing the fstab entry and relogging in, post, as Todd suggests, the results of running mount which will output everything mounted at the time. praedor On Wednesday 11 December 2002 06:00 pm, flacycads wrote: I already had gphoto2 installed. The other problems occurred right after I added the lines to fstab and /etc/modules.conf. Now, I can open a fresh instance of kedit, write someting, save it to my home directory as test, close it, and when I reopen it with a mouse left click, I no longer can edit it, and the fonts have changed to a very tiny one. I can't explain it- the permissions are correct for user. If I right click it it, and open with kedit, all is fine. I also had done Harddrake several times and tried to let it detect the camera that way, and set it up. Didn't work, and in kde control center-information-USB devices nothing shows up but the two hubs. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Todd, I previously did the mount command as root, as the webpage said: mount none /proc/bus/usb -tusbdevfs The result was it said /proc/bus/usb was already mounted. I have since removed everything I had tried, so I'm at square one, except for the weird problems with text files in /home that suddenly appeared, and rpmdrake no longer works- can't select anything to install or uninstall. The checkmarks can be placed, but no selected size in MB is shown (it's 0 MB), and rpmdrake just hangs when you try to install or remove anything. I can install rpms other ways- such as right click-software installer. Then it proceeds normally. I've obviously messed up my system again doing all this digital camera stuff. Guess I'll just reinstall Linux again- I don't see any other way out of this mess. Robert On Wednesday 11 December 2002 05:09 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Atrebates wrote on Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 12:01:56PM -0500 : add none /proc/bus/usb usbdevfs defaults 0 0 to /etc/fstab [todd@fiji /spare1/certifications]$ grep usbdevfs /etc/rc.d/rc.sysinit [ -f /proc/bus/usb/devices ] mount -f -t usbdevfs none /proc/bus/usb It's already there. If his usb is configured properly in /etc/modules.conf, then /proc/bus/usb is already mounted. We need to see the result of the 'mount' command before we can guess too much more. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
I had already removed the fstab entry, and did a shutdown, reboot- problems still remain- no rpmdrake functionality, and the weird no access to text files- even new ones, except by right clicking and open with. Here's the mount output- no usb camera connected. -- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ mount /dev/hda12 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) none on /dev type devfs (rw) /dev/hda11 on /boot type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /dev/pts type devpts (rw,mode=0620) /dev/hda10 on /home type ext3 (rw) none on /mnt/cdrom type supermount (ro,dev=/dev/scd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) none on /mnt/floppy type supermount (rw,sync,dev=/dev/fd0,fs=auto,--,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda1 on /mnt/win_c type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda5 on /mnt/win_d type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda6 on /mnt/win_e type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda7 on /mnt/win_f type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda8 on /mnt/win_g type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda9 on /mnt/win_h type vfat (rw,iocharset=iso8859-1,codepage=850,umask=0) /dev/hda16 on /tmp type reiserfs (rw,notail) /dev/hda14 on /usr type reiserfs (rw,notail) /dev/hda15 on /var type reiserfs (rw,notail) On Wednesday 11 December 2002 06:13 pm, Praedor Atrebates wrote: Todd Lyons, in a previous post, indicates that /proc/bus/usb should already exist if your modules.conf file is properly setup. The thing to try before going through a reinstall is to undo what you last did that led up to the current problem: remove the fstab entry you added. In this case it may be a quirk with debian (a more hands-on, doityourself distro) that such a line needs to be added to fstab. Remove the fstab entry, logout and login again and see if you get your system back the way it should be. Mandrake 9.0 uses kernel 2.4.19. That kernel has been nothing but trouble for me on usb and other issues. The problems prevent me from going to 9.0 - I am sticking with 8.2 which fully works for me (kernel 2.4.18). After undoing the fstab entry and relogging in, post, as Todd suggests, the results of running mount which will output everything mounted at the time. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flacycads wrote on Wed, Dec 11, 2002 at 06:18:57PM -0500 : The result was it said /proc/bus/usb was already mounted. Good. the weird problems with text files in /home that suddenly appeared, and Dunno what that is. Post the results of: ls ~ ls -l ~ rpmdrake no longer works- can't select anything to install or uninstall. The checkmarks can be placed, but no selected size in MB is shown (it's 0 MB), and rpmdrake just hangs when you try to install or remove anything. I can install rpms other ways- such as right click-software installer. Then it proceeds normally. rpmdrake uses the urpm backend which stats all mount points. If you have some hung mount point, it would do weird things, but this seems a little excessive. I've obviously messed up my system again doing all this digital camera stuff. Guess I'll just reinstall Linux again- I don't see any other way out of this mess. Personally, I would uninstall all gphoto2 rpms. If you've done it from source, try a 'make uninstall' in the source directory. It may work, it may not. Then reboot and go through an upgrade. It really should not install anything, but it will rewrite a few config files. Without looking at your machine, I have no ideas at this point. Blue skies... Todd - -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-2mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE9988ylp7v05cW2woRAiTUAKCW2lM4OebtOA5s1t+s798JvqDH0wCgrset dDOMN8u1UIoSCjhtGENMDsw= =4a4s -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
On Wednesday 11 December 2002 06:28 pm, flacycads wrote: I had already removed the fstab entry, and did a shutdown, reboot- problems still remain- no rpmdrake functionality, and the weird no access to text files- even new ones, except by right clicking and open with. Here's the mount output- no usb camera connected. -- [wrc1944@localhost wrc1944]$ mount /dev/hda12 on / type reiserfs (rw,notail) none on /proc type proc (rw) none on /proc/bus/usb type usbdevfs (rw) As Todd mentioned, the usb dir already exists so the entry in fstab isn't needed (a Debian thing). Can you do an rpm -qa|grep glibc? I pull this one out my buttocks as it doesn't matter which package you look for. If it is successful, then your rpm db is OK. If it fails, you may need to run rpm --rebuilddb, and a failure might explain urpmi problems. I don't understand your problems - I've never come across anything like that before. I've had my own problems that pop up at random sometimes: X goes south and I cannot start up any window manager and have to reconstruct my XF86Config-4 file, KDE wont start so I ultimately delete all my /tmp/ksocket*, /tmp/orbit*, and /tmp/mcop* directories as well as my .kde directory and .DCOP* files to get it back (having to reset my preferences). The closest I've come to your ownership problem was the perms on all my /home directory files, etc, got changed from praedor praedor to 502 praedor. I couldn't alter any of them (except as root), could edit anything, all my config files were unusable. Your perms are really OK? Your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4? Before having to reinstall from scratch, however, if I were you, with my moderate knowledge (enough to cause trouble and _sometimes_ get out of it), I would save whatever files I wanted to save in my home directory to some safe location, delete everything in my /home directory, and relogin. You'll be redoing all your personal settings but it beats reinstalling (save your bookmarks, addressbooks, files/docs that are important). praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
That was wath I did with 3 different cameras (Olympus, Nikon, Fuji) and all of them run (this was done by hand; if it run you can change some files to automatice): A) have loaded the next modules: usb, usb-core, usb-storage, ide-scsi B) Create a directory to mount the camera: mkdir -m 777 /mnt/camera C) Plug-in the camera via USB, put it in download position. D) mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera (you can also mount with auto file sistem. Now I have the camera contents as a new scsi drive (/mnt/camera) and I can easily copy the images to my actual harddrive I hope this could help you -- Francisco Alcaraz Ariza Departamento de Biología Vegetal Universidad de Murcia E-30100 Murcia España (Spain) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Regarding USB digital cameras And Mandrake 9.0, many people are still at a loss as to get this to work. I have a Canon G2, and Mandrake 9, and after reading everything I could find on the net and forums for days- no weeks, I can't get this to work. I had to go back to win98SE to download a few jpgs from the camera. I'm sure I'm missing something simple, and obvious to the experts. Basically, I've opened the KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2. I get things like Could not claim the usb device, could not intialize camera, Bad parameters,, and could not list folders in / 1. How do you create /dev/sdx correctly? We need the exact commands. 2. What are the exact commands to load the usb modules, since they don't appear to be compiled into the kernel? Should I recompile the kernel with USB items as Y, and not as M- modules? 3. What is the exact command to correctly create the directory under /mnt? As user, or root? Or, does it matter? Everything I've read gives different and seemingly contradictory instructions, and assumes you already know what they are talking about. Can an expert please give exact 1,2,3, final and complete definitive instructions to make a usb camera work with a generic Mandrake 9.0 Install? I know it should be easy, but I'm at my witt's end. Newbies, or even those with some experience need precise and simple command instructions, and then they can understand what works, and why, by successful examples, rather than ambiguous references to incomphrehensible procedures they don't yet understand. The best way to help newbies is to give them the exact precise commands to successfully solve basic problems, and worry about the actual understanding later. Many thanks, wrc1944 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 flacycads wrote on Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 12:32:24PM -0500 : 1. How do you create /dev/sdx correctly? We need the exact commands. That depends on your model. You need a usb core module and then the usb-storage module. 2. What are the exact commands to load the usb modules, since they don't appear to be compiled into the kernel? Should I recompile the kernel with USB items as Y, and not as M- modules? Use a Mandrake kernel. It's already all compiled as modules. 3. What is the exact command to correctly create the directory under /mnt? As user, or root? Or, does it matter? mkdir /mnt/removable What you call it exactly is adjustable by you. Everything I've read gives different and seemingly contradictory instructions, and assumes you already know what they are talking about. Can an expert please give exact 1,2,3, final and complete definitive instructions to make a usb camera work with a generic Mandrake 9.0 Install? I know it should be easy, but I'm at my witt's No, because it changes from model to model. Blue skies... Todd - -- MandrakeSoft USA http://www.mandrakesoft.com cat /boot/vmlinuz /dev/dsp #for great justice Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99kaDlp7v05cW2woRAlJvAJ44N4ndXyHAMgBS+3AEiQtO9+JEnACaAnML 1LYyGJvKtFn1kXFSl0WOmxI= =hBsJ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
I use an Olympus C-4000 on MD9.0. I cannot get gphoto2 to work w/ it. I just do mount -t vfat /dev/sda1 /mnt/camera' whenever I want to access it. I did not have to create /dev/sdxx and did not have to load any usb module. YMMV. IIRC, Mandrake did claim most usb devices should pop up on your desktop the minute you plug it in. This doesn't happen in my case probably because I don't have a supported usb device or whatever the reason is. Now, I wish MD developer could really make this to work as SuSE does. -Larry flacycads wrote: Regarding USB digital cameras And Mandrake 9.0, many people are still at a loss as to get this to work. I have a Canon G2, and Mandrake 9, and after reading everything I could find on the net and forums for days- no weeks, I can't get this to work. I had to go back to win98SE to download a few jpgs from the camera. I'm sure I'm missing something simple, and obvious to the experts. Basically, I've opened the KDE control center-peripherals-digital camera, and gphoto2. I get things like Could not claim the usb device, could not intialize camera, Bad parameters,, and could not list folders in / 1. How do you create /dev/sdx correctly? We need the exact commands. 2. What are the exact commands to load the usb modules, since they don't appear to be compiled into the kernel? Should I recompile the kernel with USB items as Y, and not as M- modules? 3. What is the exact command to correctly create the directory under /mnt? As user, or root? Or, does it matter? Everything I've read gives different and seemingly contradictory instructions, and assumes you already know what they are talking about. Can an expert please give exact 1,2,3, final and complete definitive instructions to make a usb camera work with a generic Mandrake 9.0 Install? I know it should be easy, but I'm at my witt's end. Newbies, or even those with some experience need precise and simple command instructions, and then they can understand what works, and why, by successful examples, rather than ambiguous references to incomphrehensible procedures they don't yet understand. The best way to help newbies is to give them the exact precise commands to successfully solve basic problems, and worry about the actual understanding later. Many thanks, wrc1944 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Todd, I have the stock Mandrake kernel installed, with the USB items as modules. As I said, I can't get it to work. I guess I need to know the correct procedure to load the modules. In the KDE control center, you can choose the Canon G2 camera (also in gphoto2), but I can't get any further because I apparently don't have usb loaded or installed correctly. To my mind, there must be some 1,2,3, commands to accomplish this, and that will work with any of the supported cameras in these applications. Thanks, Robert C. On Tuesday 10 December 2002 02:54 pm, Todd Lyons wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- 2. What are the exact commands to load the usb modules, since they don't appear to be compiled into the kernel? Should I recompile the kernel with USB items as Y, and not as M- modules? Use a Mandrake kernel. It's already all compiled as modules. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
Is this camera the only USB device you have? If it is then I suspect you lack any mention of USB in your modules.conf file. You could enter alias usb-interface usb-uhci and that should lead your usbcore and usb-uhci modules to load next reboot. In the meantime, do a modprobe usb-uhci (I think that's it) to try to get your usb modules loaded. praedor On Tuesday 10 December 2002 05:38 pm, flacycads wrote: Todd, I have the stock Mandrake kernel installed, with the USB items as modules. As I said, I can't get it to work. I guess I need to know the correct procedure to load the modules. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Mandrake and USB camera confusion
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Praedor Atrebates wrote on Tue, Dec 10, 2002 at 05:44:14PM -0500 : If it is then I suspect you lack any mention of USB in your modules.conf file. You could enter alias usb-interface usb-uhci and Unless Praedor knows something about your machine, it probably would be best to see the results of 'lspcidrake -v' first to make sure that you actually have a uhci type usb port. Blue skies... Todd - -- Todd Lyons -- MandrakeSoft, Inc. http://www.mandrakesoft.com/ UNIX was not designed to stop you from doing stupid things, because that would also stop you from doing clever things. -- Doug Gwyn Cooker Version mandrake-release-9.1-0.1mdk Kernel 2.4.20-1mdk -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE99nZhlp7v05cW2woRAuYFAKCDdyIGaiFnWXx9QTslmwzechv56wCeLtzf 2DuCw+Fk+mTuTz8oOsyciQ0= =+UsU -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
