Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks. Actually, I DO suspect apic/apci (I can never keep the two straight). If I disable APIC in the kernel, then 9.2 will not bootup. It freezes shortly after starting the bootup process. This was true during install as well. I had to turn on APIC to get bootup and install. I have tried the noapic switch when booting kernels but it doesn't change anything (still no sound). I have "acpi=ht" in my kernel options line in lilo (default setup from install). I have tried "acpi=off" but this doesn't change anything either (still no sound). Somewhere there is a problem in the kernel or the alsa drivers, or perhaps both. It is suspicious that it is impossible to boot a kernel if APIC is disabled (all previous installs of Mandrake up to 9.1 required that I disable APIC in bios to get a fully functional and stable system). SuSE 9.0 uses a modified 2.4.21 kernel (modified with many 2.6.x additions) and it works fine, sound included. I suspect the 2.4.22 kernel series itself. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 05:09 am, Tim Sawchuck wrote: > On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 > > Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I > > get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the [...] > --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is > enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. > Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to > kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added "nolapic" to my > append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are > there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing > other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My > sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was > fine. - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/umZkaKr9sJYeTxgRAg8BAKCCT1IhPdu/i2DPOZnUkL+qc8VkOwCfd3tb 5zqAPUMyDRqHsgx4gWlfQ2k= =/H99 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 10:46:15 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I > get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the > volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume > to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear > faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. > > I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. > > Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers > somewhere. This may not be any help, but this just came through Cooker Bug, and I don't see that anyone mentioned kernel boot parameters. NOTE his *last* sentence: http://qa.mandrakesoft.com/show_bug.cgi?id=5821 --- Additional Comments From [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2003-11-18 18:39 --- I'm having the same problem (freezing during boot when ACPI is enabled) on a Toshiba Satellite 5105 installing from the PowerPack 9.2 DVD. Unfortunatly, the nolapic option didn't work for me. I'm relatively new to kernel options, so I may be applying incorrectly. I added "nolapic" to my append list in lilo.conf and then ran lilo, but it still freezes. Are there any other options to get this working? I think it's also causing other things to go wrong with my machine, like the sound not working. My sound didn't work with 9.1 until I enabled ACPI, then like magic, it was fine. -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Unfortunately the mute/unmute trick with aumix didn't work for me. All I get is very faint static over the speakers whenever I manipulate the volume sliders (pretty much any of them). If I crank up my speaker volume to max and try to test sound/arts via control center, I don't even hear faint sounds. Playing music cds works fine, however. I also tried killing artsd and trying to get sound working through esound. Nope. The system is broken before any sound daemons, in the drivers somewhere. My next trick, since I cannot build a 9.1 kernel on 9.2 is to simply try installing a binary 9.1 kernel on my desktop and see if I can get away with that. No 9.2 kernel I've tried, binary or self-built, works with sound on my system. praedor On Tuesday 18 November 2003 04:29 am, Michael Adams wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 > > Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to > > > uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my > > > desktop. > > > > > > Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the > > > 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. [...] > > Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto > > mute-->mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is > > selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... [...] > Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. > > BTW what is "Pcm" as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. - -- "Events are in the saddle and ride mankind." - --Ralph Waldo Emerson -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uj7PaKr9sJYeTxgRAto8AKC6mAgM4yfZ8Nb7XB7M2F4xjjbKfgCbB/Oj roQ0lcFthArbg2ahWzaG5vU= =DD7S -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Adams wrote: > BTW what is "Pcm" as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. > Pulse Code Modulation (digital audio) - -- KevinO AMAZING BUT TRUE ... If all the salmon caught in Canada in one year were laid end to end across the Sahara Desert, the smell would be absolutely awful. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.0.7 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQE/ufCOWOfRC7Rnmv8RAq9QAJ9l9ROm+XUaNd67OMGMtgqntkjNRQCeP3aQ AEtHAqiNO0R2u+HOSTE+URM= =Gmxq -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 18:37:43 -0800 Eric Huff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to > > uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my > > desktop. > > > > Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the > > 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. > > Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default > > 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. > > No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no > > multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked > > in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. > > > this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed > 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). > > Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto > mute-->mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is > selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... > > eric > Thanks Eric, did it for me. Hope it did it for Praedor too. BTW what is "Pcm" as this needs to be up as well for Xmms. -- Michael Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Yeah, I did check the wires. Last resort hope for a fix. Everything is fine. It is especially irritating that there isn't an error message anywhere on the system to be found. As far as the system is concerned, sound is OK. I have one more thing to try before I give it up for the night. I am still hoping to keep mandrake on this system. It's all setup and the SuSE install and setup system is different enough to make it difficult to deal with. praedor On Monday 17 November 2003 11:15 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: > >Anyone else have suggestions? > > > >Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little > >faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume > > controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. > > You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to > get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. > > Good luck. > > (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by > accident get loose anywhere?). > > Best regards, > =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZ+b3Fc5zsI6lBMRAnwlAKDAhbMK7/7L+vhgwCTZ4st6VK1DNgCeNr/m +RIfMKYfnD3SPT+8tA5ZLnE= =bqPw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 22:56:35 -0500, Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?: >Anyone else have suggestions? > >Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little >faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, >etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. You have a registration number which you can use in case of last resort to get the help if you can`t get it here at www.mandrakeexpert.com. Good luck. (Stupid question, forgimme... did you check all the cabling? It didn`t by accident get loose anywhere?). Best regards, =Dick Gevers= -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/uZzewC/zk+cxEdMRAjgnAJ9xdRRaRoTQEdlU08jCdFfyDrwUOgCgiIp4 lAQnkzZhgrHGC/qfgEonMyQ= =GCWw -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Thanks for the info but no joy. Sound is broken, plain and simple...so is draksound, apparently. If I fire up draksound and select "another driver" and go with the oss driver, it doesn't properly update modules.conf. It only partially updates it, leaving most of it setup for alsa. In any case, I totally remove the alsa crap from modules.conf and went oss. No sound. There is nothing wrong with the hardware. It is fine and it works. It works in windoze, it works in 9.1 and 9.0. It is 9.2 that is borked. I'll take a look at your bug link but it is looking like I will have to abandon 9.2 on my desktop and go to SuSE. Without working sound, I am not interested in a distro and it is not acceptable to me to have paid $80 and have to drop the new distro to go back to the previous working version (which is the only other option I can see at this point other than going to SuSE which I KNOW works with sound). Anyone else have suggestions? Oh yes, trying to play with aumix and mute does nothing. I get little faint electronic chirps from my speakers when manipulating volume controls, etc, but that's it. This is true for alsa and oss drivers. On Monday 17 November 2003 09:35 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > Anyone have a fix? > > If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way > (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). > > Have you tried "rmmod sound" and "modprobe sound"...? > > "ll /dev/sound" would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, > sequencer were missing at times... > > I've sometimes used "kill artsd" to get sound too... > > IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will > install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uZh+3Fc5zsI6lBMRApcxAKCjxzz4M6UIDg6YMSvfSkyQ6wPLxgCggy1Y b1Y8raT3RI007TaA8pDvoQA= =2syH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
> This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to > uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my > desktop. > > Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the > 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. > Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default > 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. > No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no > multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked > in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. this is just a guess. I needed to do it the first time i installed 9.1 on my computer, but not the 2nd (same computer, though). Anyway, get something soundy running, then in aumix, goto mute-->mute all, then toggle it again. Mine works when mute all is selected. Obviously, the toggle checkmark is backwards... eric Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] SOUND! Where is it?
On Mon, 17 Nov 2003 21:16:58 -0500 Praedor Atrebates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Anyone have a fix? If you have a choice (OSS/ALSA), try them. I was feeling the same way (see bug at http://bugs.mandrakelinux.com/query.php?bug=57 ). Have you tried "rmmod sound" and "modprobe sound"...? "ll /dev/sound" would also be useful I noticed that any of dsp, mixer, sequencer were missing at times... I've sometimes used "kill artsd" to get sound too... IMO, sound is in a really bad state -- I'm still running 9.2rc2; but will install 9.2 tomorrow, so the fun will probably start all over... :P Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] SOUND! Where is it?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 This is maddening. It is enough, literally, to drive me to uninstall MDK 9.2 and go SuSE 9.0. I have no sound in 9.2 on my desktop. I have an MSI KT333 mobo with via 8233 onboard sound. It worked fine in 9.0 and 9.1, kernels up to 2.4.21-0.13mdk. With a temporary install of SuSE 9.0 (kernel-2.4.21) it worked fine too. Mandrake 9.2, however, no worky. There is something wrong with the mandrake and/or 2.4.22 kernel sound system. The hardware is perfectly OK. No matter what I try, I cannot get sound working. The mixer settings are OK, the driver loads OK, and there are no error messages related to sound anywhere on the system. The system thinks all is OK but there simply is no sound. Has anyone run into this and found a fix? I tried installing the 9.1 kernel-src-2.4.21-0.13mdk rpm but it will not build on 9.2. Errors all over the place. On 9.2 I started with the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel, then built and tried 2.4.22-21mdk. No go. No sound. I have now built the 2.4.22-multimedia kernel and...no multimedia! No sound. Same problem. There is something borked in the 2.4.22 kernel series with regards to sound. Could I get away with deleting the 2.4.22 kernel sound directory and replacing it lock, stock, and barrel with the kernel-source-2.4.21-0.13mdk sound directory? I want sound. No sound, no mandrake. Anyone have a fix? praedor -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/uYEq3Fc5zsI6lBMRAlGjAJ9mPNWjwou9BV9e8PtehEWSBwvxEQCgmsyV vpXkxSdn2xBe7m/ySyV9wvA= =vFTE -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
On Sun, 2003-11-16 at 15:55, Rob Blomquist wrote: > OK, I now have 9.2 installed on my laptop via FTP. It was about a 4 hour > experience for me. Draksound is not able to detect the ISA card, and is not > useful for this card. > > Everything is working pretty well, except for the sound, it has a Crystal > 4237B, which is found on the ISA bus, and I am able to mess with it using the > CS423x driver in sndconfig, but I have not gotten any sound from it yet. > > Apprently it can emulate a Soundblaster, AdLib or WSS card, but using the SB > driver crashes the machine so that the only way out is to crash the system. > The AdLib driver crashes sndconfig. The WSS driver also locks up the system > like the SB. > > Any ideas or experiences configuring the sound on this machine. My > introduction to this machine was from the Linux Laptops website, and my life > is not as simple. > > Rob Rob draksound AFAIK is only effective on PCI type cards. Since your is ISA, using the old standby of sndconfig (just urpmi sndconfig) This should bring you online no sweat. One note. You have to run it from a regular tty not a konsole or xterm window for it to work right. I've used this chipset in the past and it works well, sndconfig has it in it's database and can get you up. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound configuration on Dell Inspiron 3200?
OK, I now have 9.2 installed on my laptop via FTP. It was about a 4 hour experience for me. Draksound is not able to detect the ISA card, and is not useful for this card. Everything is working pretty well, except for the sound, it has a Crystal 4237B, which is found on the ISA bus, and I am able to mess with it using the CS423x driver in sndconfig, but I have not gotten any sound from it yet. Apprently it can emulate a Soundblaster, AdLib or WSS card, but using the SB driver crashes the machine so that the only way out is to crash the system. The AdLib driver crashes sndconfig. The WSS driver also locks up the system like the SB. Any ideas or experiences configuring the sound on this machine. My introduction to this machine was from the Linux Laptops website, and my life is not as simple. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound woes with 9.2
I somehow got sound working on my laptop after problems immediately after installation of 9.2 on it. Not sure what I did but it stuck. In any case, I installed 9.2 on my desktop (Athlon XP 2700+, KT333 mobo) which has a VIA 8233A onboard soundsystem. It worked fine in 9.0 and 9.1. It doesn't work at all in 9.2. I have tried using ALSA and OSS (KDE arts sound setup changes as well) with no results. My mixer settings are correct but at no time have I ever gotten sound to work. This is true of the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel and the 2.4.22-21mdk kernel I built last night in hopes I could get sound working. Anyone have any ideas? I looked at Twiki and saw nothing of use in this case. praedor Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound issues with 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I had a fun evening last. I received SuSE 9.0 yesterday (9.2 came two days ago). I installed 9.2 on my laptop and have it essentially running fine now but no sound. I can get sound working for a single session but that's it. This is on an IBM Thinkpad with an esssolo1 sound device. It worked fine in 9.1 (and 9.1, and previous). The problem I am having is coincident and isolated to 9.2, both the default 2.4.22-10mdk kernel and the 2.4.22-21.tmb.1mdkcustom (which I built yesterday). My card is properly identified and the correct module is loaded. My mixer settings are correct, not zeroed out. All I get is white noise (if my volume is set high enough) from the speakers. There are no error messages that I can find associated with sound and the kde soundserver setup in the Control Center doesn' t produce any useful information. The ONLY way I have found to get sound working (in any current session) is to killall artsd, login as superuser and run alsaconf. After that, I restart artsd (as user) and viola, sound works fine. If I then make any changes in the control center (like set it to autodetect instead of alsa, or vice versa) and restart the soundserver, sound is lost again. If I have sound working and then logout and login again, sound is lost. I have updated kde, have a new kernel, have run MandrakeUpdate and installed all the fixes. No good. No sound. Any ideas on getting this fixed once and for all? Anyone else run into this situation? praedor - -- "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way." - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/s5j1aKr9sJYeTxgRAiw2AJ9/o1aCbLSKVBThqAaLflXurzNGKwCfZ70P Yf6Iiw1Yqi0LWcTZfYQg94M= =y7q6 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound and fonts in 9.2
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I received my powerpak CDs yesterday and installed 9.2 last evening. Problems. I naturally ran into the disappearing icon problem but quickly fixed that by installing a previously downloaded kdeartwork-gorilla rpm which produced MOST icons so that things looked reasonable and were easier to navigate. I fixed this fully by installing the updates. Problems that remain: sound. In 9.1 sound was perfect. I have an oldish IBM Thinkpad 1412 with an essolo1 sound device in it. In 9.2 it detected it just fine but sound doesn't work without unacceptable gymnastics every time I start up. What I get by default is white noise static coming from my speakers (mixer settings were correct, not zeroed out). Nothing I do will bring sound. I even tried the alternative driver (esssolo1 instead of snd-es1968 or whatever it was). No good. What finally worked was to login as root, killall artsd, run alsaconf, and then restart artsd. After this, sound works...but only for the current session. If I restart the computer I lose sound again. This is obviously unacceptable. I have seen other posts wrt sound problems and wondered if a true fix has been discovered? There also appears to be a bit of a font bug wrt kmail. First time I started kmail up after the install (over 9.1, leaving my home dir and all its conf files intact) I found the default font used to be Beast Wars. When I opened up the configure pages to change the fonts, the highlighted/selected font was correct: luxi sans. Nevertheless, what was showing was Beast Wars. The only way to get luxi sans up and working was to highlight any other font for a moment and then go back to luxi sans. Do an "apply" and fonts were correct. Beast Wars? EVERYONE knows Beast Wars aren't ever used by anybody for anything. It's a junk font. I mean, c'mon! In any case, has anyone else run into this? Final question. I will likely need to rebuild my kernel to get grsecurity activated AND to build a patched orinoco wlan driver (to allow for monitor mode). Does the most recent tmb kernels include proper, already patched orinoco drivers? praedor - -- "Our ship is in the hands of pilots who are steering directly under full sail for a rock. The whole crew may see this course to violate our liberties in full view if they look the right way." - --Samuel Adams, 1771 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/sjvZaKr9sJYeTxgRAq6AAJ0dWVf77SQHQ4duDTQpf01PwrzPRgCfXh1U q734Apm1SwUX7U9oOGk5xxk= =lPpQ -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound cards
Hi all trying to get thats friends new pc up and running back to the point the last one was before it got stolen. :( The onboard sound card is not yet supported, so he disabled it and put in a yamaha DS1, which sorta works.. the alsa driver dos'nt support audio input very well. I did have some success with the oss driverI think, as I had it working then it stopped but it was gone midnight and a 30mile drive home. Where I'm confused is which input device to point the applications at, as they use the sound card as an input device then s/w FFT DSP the incoming sound , should I be pointing at /dev/dsp or /dev/audio or /dev/adsp ??? Some advice if anyone else is using this card TIA Richard -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Thu, 2003-11-06 at 12:32, Jack Coates wrote: > On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > Jack Coates wrote: > > > You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an > > > actual problem, but here goes :-) > > > > > > Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading > > > to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock > > > 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both > > > using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, "run sound server with realtime > > > priority" is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not > > > KDE). > > > > > > XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the > > > only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make > > > much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the "use realtime priority" flag is > > > set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under > > > heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's "use > > > realtime priority" flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying > > > on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). > > > > > > I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 > > > laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally > > > perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static > > > and frequently played at the wrong frequency. > > > > > > Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music > > > and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux > > > fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. > > > > Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by > > default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the > > thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this > > will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post > > also details how to change this setting. > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > > > Rolf > > Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also > discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during > shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a > clean install... spoke too soon, only the laptop uses gdm. not nicing X does help on the desktop, though it still isn't perfect. next step may be to try ALSA on that one... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Wed, 2003-11-05 at 05:43, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > Jack Coates wrote: > > You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an > > actual problem, but here goes :-) > > > > Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading > > to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock > > 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both > > using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, "run sound server with realtime > > priority" is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not > > KDE). > > > > XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the > > only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make > > much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the "use realtime priority" flag is > > set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under > > heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's "use > > realtime priority" flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying > > on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). > > > > I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 > > laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally > > perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static > > and frequently played at the wrong frequency. > > > > Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music > > and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux > > fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. > > Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by > default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the > thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this > will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post > also details how to change this setting. > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html > > Rolf Got my hopes up, but I use gdm and it doesn't nice X. Oh well. I also discovered that the -mm kernel panics in the ieee1394 module during shutdown on my laptop and swsusp still doesn't work. Maybe if I did a clean install... -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
Jack Coates wrote: You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, "run sound server with realtime priority" is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the "use realtime priority" flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's "use realtime priority" flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Con Kolivas wrote about how renicing X to -10, as is currently done by default, can cause choppiness in the 2.6 kernels and, further in the thread, he recommends not doing it for any kernel. Don't know if this will help your situation but might be a heads up. His subsequent post also details how to change this setting. http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg129204.html Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] sound in 9.2
On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 22:06:26 -0800 Jack Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> scribed on electronic parchment: > You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an > actual problem, but here goes :-) > > Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading > to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock > 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both > using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, "run sound server with realtime > priority" is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not > KDE). > > XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the > only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make > much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the "use realtime priority" flag is > set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under > heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's "use > realtime priority" flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying > on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). > > I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 > laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally > perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static > and frequently played at the wrong frequency. > > Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music > and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux > fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. Funny you should mention! I have been playing with the 2.6 test 9.4 kernel, and have noticed it even more. I have 9.2 Cooker (2.4.22-21mdk) , which is really just 9.2 since the freeze has been on. This is a desktop with a Turtle Beach Santa Cruz card (cs46xx), 5.1 Dolby Digital to a kickin' set of Altec Lancing speakers / subwoofer. I _can_ rattle the window! but that is another story. I'm all ALSA. I can stream 128k audio off the net with no problems, but I have some oggs that get funky and choppy, but not always. No lockups at all. There are some issues with gstreamer-alsa based players, and ChangeLog shows fixs have just released. I've played with a bunch of music manager software - it is uses gstreamer I have a serious sound problems; if it uses xmms, then the minor issue mentioned, if it uses alsaplayer, smooth as silk. Anyone else? Tim -- _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] sound in 9.2
You all know how I hate to take time away from the usual chatter with an actual problem, but here goes :-) Has anyone else noticed bad sound choppiness since installing/upgrading to 9.2? I have two systems with this problem, one using the stock 2.4.22-21 kernel and AC97 sound and one using -mm with i810 sound, both using ARTS. artswrapper is suid, "run sound server with realtime priority" is checked in kcontrol (note that I actually use XFce4, not KDE). XMMS is of course the app where I notice the problem (since GAIM is the only other program that is allowed to make noise and it doesn't make much). On stock-21/AC97 desktop, the "use realtime priority" flag is set, and true to the warning, I've experienced a system lockup under heavy load when XMMS was playing. On the 21-mm/i810 system, XMMS's "use realtime priority" flag is not checked (system lockups are more annoying on a laptop when there's no network accessibility). I don't recall if the AC97 desktop is on OSS or ALSA, but the i810 laptop is on OSS since the 9.2 upgrade; it was rock-solid and generally perfect on ALSA for 9.1, but with 9.2 ALSA sounds were drowned in static and frequently played at the wrong frequency. Any ideas? I'm sure I don't need to mention how annoying choppy music and system lockups are, especially when I'm the only hardcore Linux fanatic^H^H^H^H^H^H^Huser in the building. -- Jack Coates Monkeynoodle: A Scientific Venture... Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Services Question
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:27:12 -0700 Tim Sawchuck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The only other thing is that DigitalDJ that integrates with Grip will not > play under ALSA. All my other Audio/Video apps are fine. Anyone know a > trick to get Ddj to run with ALSA? Nothing on the Grip / Ddj home page. > I'll email the developer as well. I know, I know, replying to myself, but it might help some other lost soul! ;-) Solved my Digital DJ situation by changing the player in the config from ogg123 to alsaplayer. Removed the aslaplayer gui and it works great! Turns out to be ogg123 not playing with alsa, and not Digital DJ. Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Services Question
On Sun, 19 Oct 2003 11:38:02 -0700 Todd Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Tim Sawchuck wanted us to know: > > >The one thing I cannot determine is in MCC Services, is do I need Sound > >as well as ALSA? I have ASLA on at boot. I have tried ALSA On, Sound > >Off, and ALSA On, Sound On, and can see no difference. This is my home > >machine, not network with other computers. > >I'm just trying to avoid conflicts and not run any services not needed. > > The way it works if you have both on (default): > > start alsa init script >check modules.conf to see if alsa configured > if yes, load modules > if no, exit with success > start sound init script >check modules.conf to see of OSS configured > if yes, load modules > if no, exit with success > > You lose nothing by leaving both on. You gain the benefit that in the > future if you or Mdk determine the other is better, it just works > without you having to remember to enable the other service to start. > Personally I think they should be both just done from within the sound > init script, but that's just me :-) > - -- > Blue skies... Todd > | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | > | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | > | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin | > Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.18, 0.14 > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc > > iD8DBQE/ktoKIBT1264ScBURAtvEAJ9Yjlb7SKv9olyI1ZIdEH8LFMWz8QCgy375 > uA4yeDdEHQOA4LMEwlfJbEM= > =RGRd > -END PGP SIGNATURE- Thank you, Todd I did comment out all the OSS entries in modules.conf, I'll enable them again. Maybe that will solve my Ddj problem as well. Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Services Question
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Tim Sawchuck wanted us to know: >The one thing I cannot determine is in MCC Services, is do I need Sound as >well as ALSA? I have ASLA on at boot. I have tried ALSA On, Sound Off, and >ALSA On, Sound On, and can see no difference. This is my home machine, not >network with other computers. >I'm just trying to avoid conflicts and not run any services not needed. The way it works if you have both on (default): start alsa init script check modules.conf to see if alsa configured if yes, load modules if no, exit with success start sound init script check modules.conf to see of OSS configured if yes, load modules if no, exit with success You lose nothing by leaving both on. You gain the benefit that in the future if you or Mdk determine the other is better, it just works without you having to remember to enable the other service to start. Personally I think they should be both just done from within the sound init script, but that's just me :-) - -- Blue skies... Todd | Get a bigger hammer! | Sometimes you get what you want. | | http://www.mrball.net | Sometimes you get experience. | | http://faq.mrball.net | --unknown origin | Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 3 users, load average: 0.12, 0.18, 0.14 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/ktoKIBT1264ScBURAtvEAJ9Yjlb7SKv9olyI1ZIdEH8LFMWz8QCgy375 uA4yeDdEHQOA4LMEwlfJbEM= =RGRd -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound Services Question
I just recently changed to ALSA from OSS sound. Mdk 9.2 I've tried all the docs I can find, Googled, etc. The one thing I cannot determine is in MCC Services, is do I need Sound as well as ALSA? I have ASLA on at boot. I have tried ALSA On, Sound Off, and ALSA On, Sound On, and can see no difference. This is my home machine, not network with other computers. I'm just trying to avoid conflicts and not run any services not needed. The only other thing is that DigitalDJ that integrates with Grip will not play under ALSA. All my other Audio/Video apps are fine. Anyone know a trick to get Ddj to run with ALSA? Nothing on the Grip / Ddj home page. I'll email the developer as well. Tim -- I often read this forum on my PDA, please use plain text! _ ( ) ASCII ribbon campaign against HTML e-mail x registered Linux user # 329428 / \ GnuPG KeyID 6B5A70DF www.keyserver.net Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] sound not working in opengl
Sound is not working in any of my opengl applications. Here is the output of lspci: 00:00.0 Host bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8377 [KT400 AGP] Host Bridge 00:01.0 PCI bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 PCI Bridge 00:0e.0 Multimedia audio controller: C-Media Electronics Inc CM8738 (rev 10) 00:10.0 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.1 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.2 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB (rev 80) 00:10.3 USB Controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. USB 2.0 (rev 82) 00:11.0 ISA bridge: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT8235 ISA Bridge 00:11.1 IDE interface: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT82C586A/B/VT82C686/A/B/VT8233/A/C/VT8235 PIPC Bus Master IDE (rev 06) 00:12.0 Ethernet controller: VIA Technologies, Inc. VT6102 [Rhine-II] (rev 74) 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV17 [GeForce4 MX 440] (rev a3) Here is my modules.conf: alias sound-slot-0 snd-cmipci alias eth0 via-rhine probeall scsi_hostadapter ide-scsi above snd-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alias char-major-89 i2c-dev options adm1021 ignore=0,0x18,0,0x4c,0,0x4e alias /dev/nvidia* nvidia I use ALSA. Using OSS doesn't work either. Thanks. John Drouhard -- Sat Oct 18 22:29:45 CDT 2003 - They told me to install Windows 98 or better, so I installed Linux. Registered Linux User # 315649 Registered Machine # 201001 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
Richard, Richard Bown wrote: Many thanks for that Joachim. I'm sure the mixer setting s are OK, as turning pcm and line up to full I could hear the background noise, and the mic worked OK as well. I suspect my friend has the same mobo, unfortunately you cant disable the sound card in the bios, pheonix bios is horrible !! What I could do as a short term fix is to put another sound card in and load the modules for that card. Please correct me if I'm wrong , if the modules are loaded for the additional sound card, and not for the inboard sound card, that will work until I can load MDK9.2 on Yes it will. No need to disable the built-in soundchip. -Joachim Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
Richard, ... I should have added that I don't use the builtin 0.9.0rcX Alsa-support which is part of the 2.4.21-0.25mdk kernel. It didn't work for me, see below, but I use Win4Lin as well. My mobo is a Asus P4PE, Intel 845PE chipset, with onbord-sound AC97/AD1980 connected to the ICH4 southbridge. I am sure your mixer-settings for "CD" are O.K. Look for them in AlsamixerGUI. If everything else fails you could build a new kernel from source as I did. A new kernel built from the MDK-kernel-source (_Alsa-support must be switched off_ by unchecking "Advanced Linux Sound Architecture" in make menuconfig before patching with the Win4Lin-patches and recompiling!), the two kernel patches extracted from the respective Win4Lin-package, and the alsa 0.9.5 packages: driver, lib, utils downloaded from the alsa-project-site worked perfectly with the intel8x0-Alsa-module which is appropriate for my mobo ... though I don't recommend you this somewhat complex procedure if another way is possible. So I omit detailed instructions here. What I recommend you is to wait for the upcoming MDK _9.2-kernel_ which has Alsa 0.9.6 built-in and support from Netraverse. -Joachim Richard Bown wrote: Greetings Gurus and mega intelligent beings Still got problems with this one. First of all the modules wer'nt loaded, so I manually loaded all the required OSS modules. Partial success got some sound...some ! so then ran draksound which preferred the Alsa modules so I let it load them, and again some sound. I ran modprobe and all the alsa modules listed below are there. BUT no audio playback from the CD , yes the cable is connected. and the audio in win4lin is also non functional. Its not a duff sound card as it works with winXP.. fingers down throat ! Just to make it worse, grotty pheonix bios dos'nt allow the onboard card to be disabled, so I cant just throw in a nice soundblaster or similar. suggestions please TIA Richard On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:50, Joachim v. Jena wrote: For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the Alsa-module snd-intel8x0. Use harddrake. Before test if these modules are installed. The output of modprobe -n -v i810_audio should be similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o and of modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0 similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o -Joachim Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, integral sound card on a mobo. Listed by hard drake as ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as sound is not configuring.. BR TIA Richard __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
Greetings Gurus and mega intelligent beings Still got problems with this one. First of all the modules wer'nt loaded, so I manually loaded all the required OSS modules. Partial success got some sound...some ! so then ran draksound which preferred the Alsa modules so I let it load them, and again some sound. I ran modprobe and all the alsa modules listed below are there. BUT no audio playback from the CD , yes the cable is connected. and the audio in win4lin is also non functional. Its not a duff sound card as it works with winXP.. fingers down throat ! Just to make it worse, grotty pheonix bios dos'nt allow the onboard card to be disabled, so I cant just throw in a nice soundblaster or similar. suggestions please TIA Richard On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:50, Joachim v. Jena wrote: > For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the > Alsa-module snd-intel8x0. > Use harddrake. > > Before test if these modules are installed. > > The output of > > modprobe -n -v i810_audio > > should be similar to > > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o > > and of > > modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0 > > similar to > > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o > > -Joachim > > Richard Bown wrote: > > Hi All, > > integral sound card on a mobo. > > > > Listed by hard drake as > > ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as > > sound is not configuring.. > > BR > > TIA > > Richard > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
Richard, You don't need the information on which special AC97 soundchip is connected to your Intel ICH4 845G/GL southbridge. It will be automatically recognized by the modules I mentioned if they are properly installed. -Joachim Richard Bown wrote: Thanks Joachim, I checked the Intel site and the mandrake hardware list but could'nt find it. BR Richard On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:50, Joachim v. Jena wrote: For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the Alsa-module snd-intel8x0. Use harddrake. Before test if these modules are installed. The output of modprobe -n -v i810_audio should be similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o and of modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0 similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o -Joachim Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, integral sound card on a mobo. Listed by hard drake as ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as sound is not configuring.. BR TIA Richard __ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
On Tuesday 30 Sep 2003 10:22 am, Richard Bown wrote: > Thanks Joachim, > I checked the Intel site and the mandrake hardware list but > could'nt find it. > A quick google turned up that there has been a thread on cooker about this chipset and 9.2. You could search the archives for that. It seems there are some issues (again!) about the various mixers, and something being muted. I didn't follow through to see whether everything is now sorted. Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
Thanks Joachim, I checked the Intel site and the mandrake hardware list but could'nt find it. BR Richard On Tue, 2003-09-30 at 08:50, Joachim v. Jena wrote: > For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the > Alsa-module snd-intel8x0. > Use harddrake. > > Before test if these modules are installed. > > The output of > > modprobe -n -v i810_audio > > should be similar to > > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o > > and of > > modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0 > > similar to > > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o > /sbin/insmod > /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o > > -Joachim > > Richard Bown wrote: > > Hi All, > > integral sound card on a mobo. > > > > Listed by hard drake as > > ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as > > sound is not configuring.. > > BR > > TIA > > Richard > > > > > > > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound card
For your soundchip choose the OSS-module i810_audio.0 or the Alsa-module snd-intel8x0. Use harddrake. Before test if these modules are installed. The output of modprobe -n -v i810_audio should be similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/ac97_codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/i810_audio.o and of modprobe -n -v snd-intel8x0 similar to /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/drivers/sound/soundcore.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/seq/snd-seq-device.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-rawmidi.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/drivers/mpu401/snd-mpu401-uart.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-page-alloc.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/ac97/snd-ac97-codec.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-timer.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/snd-pcm.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/pci/snd-intel8x0.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-mixer-oss.o /sbin/insmod /lib/modules/2.4.21-0.25mdk/kernel/sound/acore/oss/snd-pcm-oss.o -Joachim Richard Bown wrote: Hi All, integral sound card on a mobo. Listed by hard drake as ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as sound is not configuring.. BR TIA Richard Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound card
Hi All, integral sound card on a mobo. Listed by hard drake as ICH4 845G/GL chip set AC97, any ideas what maybe compatable with it, as sound is not configuring.. BR TIA Richard -- Richard Bown <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 12:29, Dick Gevers wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:08:26 -0700, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > > > We are OK as long as we never have to disassemble a floppy to remove > > our credit card after trying to buy something at amazon. > > True, but if you are using that button which pushes out the convenient > holder for a coffee cup, you can still be in deep trouble when some dumb > fool programme tells it: `eject -t /mnt/cdrom`. > > Cheers! > =Dick Gevers= You mean that's not the empty cup crusher! James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 11:08:26 -0700, James Sparenberg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > We are OK as long as we never have to disassemble a floppy to remove > our credit card after trying to buy something at amazon. True, but if you are using that button which pushes out the convenient holder for a coffee cup, you can still be in deep trouble when some dumb fool programme tells it: `eject -t /mnt/cdrom`. Cheers! =Dick Gevers= - -- Registered Linux user # 309037 from Linux machine # 209379 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/a1kiwC/zk+cxEdMRAoh+AJ9wsP7lJqwyYvIymKZF5uXv8OKlgwCdGgBV LJHHYaQfM+kPFmDa6H1BDzw= =t/O7 -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Fri, 2003-09-19 at 09:16, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:38 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > > >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, > > > only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal > > > modem. No wonder there was no music > > > > Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a > > modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone > > call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI > > slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send > > a fax, etc.) > > > It didn't do one damn thing for the cd though > > Anne Anne, We are OK as long as we never have to disassemble a floppy to remove our credit card after trying to buy something at amazon. James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 3:38 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: > >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, > > only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal > > modem. No wonder there was no music > > Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a > modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone > call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI > slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send > a fax, etc.) > It didn't do one damn thing for the cd though Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Fri, 19 Sep 2003 13:33:25 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!: >You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, only >to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal modem. No >wonder there was no music Anne, that`s not completely crazy: it fit, so it must have been a modem-with-sound. If properly configured you could take a phone call over your pc speakers. I have a sleeping one fit into a PCI slot, but never used it for sound (I keep it for if I need to send a fax, etc.) Ciao, =Dick Gevers= - -- Registered Linux user # 309037 from Linux machine # 209379 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.3 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Encryption is an envelope - the contents are private. iD8DBQE/axTlwC/zk+cxEdMRAuX3AKC1qRCfDapg/d1LmFhNJADu7OVFaACg2JiH W8hrtSSlGgcn25r+G91Ja9g= =mqWu -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Friday 19 Sep 2003 10:27 am, James Sparenberg wrote: > On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 21:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: > > On Thursday 18 September 2003 11:26 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist > > > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to > > > > the power. > > > > > > Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I > > > did the other day... :^) > > > > Nope, dumber than that. > > > > I was plugged into the Mobo sound card, and I needed to be > > plugged into the PCI SB Live card. > > > > Rob > > Dang Rob you're right down there with me. I spent 30 minutes > trouble shooting a power problem and found out I'd forgotten to put > the fuse back in the fuse holder. (But I had installed the cap, so > I wouldn't lose it.) > You guys give me great hope - I'm not alone! I once spend ages, only to find that the speakers were plugged into an internal modem. No wonder there was no music Anne -- Registered Linux User No.293302 Have you visited http://twiki.mdklinuxfaq.org yet? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Thu, 2003-09-18 at 21:52, Rob Blomquist wrote: > On Thursday 18 September 2003 11:26 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist > > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to the power. > > > > Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I did the other > > day... :^) > > Nope, dumber than that. > > I was plugged into the Mobo sound card, and I needed to be plugged into the > PCI SB Live card. > > Rob Dang Rob you're right down there with me. I spent 30 minutes trouble shooting a power problem and found out I'd forgotten to put the fuse back in the fuse holder. (But I had installed the cap, so I wouldn't lose it.) James Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Thursday 18 September 2003 11:26 pm, Pierre Fortin wrote: > On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to the power. > > Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I did the other > day... :^) Nope, dumber than that. I was plugged into the Mobo sound card, and I needed to be plugged into the PCI SB Live card. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
On Wed, 17 Sep 2003 22:38:12 -0700 Rob Blomquist <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to the power. Hopefully not with the microphone in the speaker jack like I did the other day... :^) Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound dissapeared!
Hi Rob, > I tried running alsamixer to check the speaker volumes, but I get a > complaint: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No > such file or directory. First, if you do chkconfig --list, is alsa running? the other one is service --status-all |more (because iptables always runs the alsa entry off the screen!). If alsa isn't running, chkconfig alsa on and service alsa start will get it going and make sure it starts at boot time. If alsa is running, you might look at /etc/asound.state. you will maybe see that the values for each "piece" of the card are muted/zero (they're somewhere near the base of each entry for my card, which isn't SB). I haven't tried unmuting using this... so maybe save a copy of the current one somewhere... If the values in asound.state aren't at zero, you could try alsactl; one of the options is restore, which should restore the values in asound.state to the running service. Maybe also try rpm -qa |grep alsa-utils - I think that's the package that has the mixer in it. Perhaps it needs to be removed and reinstalled? good luck! -- Trish Fraser, Sunbury, Australia Linux user #283226 counter.li.org andromeda up 19 days and counting kernel 2.4.21-0.13mdk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound dissapeared!
Tonight I moved my computer to a new desk, and in the process shut it off. After restoring all the connections, I find that I can't seem to get the sound up. In my boot messages I see my SBLive card is detected just fine. I some time ago heard that the SBLive driver was weird, and that to connect up to speakers, one had to not use the speaker port. Is this true, and what is the proper SBLive card port? I am currently connected to the green port, as that is where I believe it was when I removed it. I tried running alsamixer to check the speaker volumes, but I get a complaint: alsamixer: function snd_ctl_open failed for default: No such file or directory. This does not sound good, but I am not sure what is missing. I recently unstalled a big chunk of the Gnome desktop, which I rarely use, and maybe I lost some part of ALSA, but I have no idea what. Maybe the snd_ctl_open gives a clue? And yes, both the computer and the speakers are plugged in to the power. Rob -- Linux: For the people, by the people. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 August 2003 02:55 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > I understand that, but alsa is installed. As you found, the default > is to use oss. How did you switch it to use alsa? Just to make sure that I don't give you the wrong advice, I would suggest following the fairly complete instructions here: http://lulu.esm.rochester.edu/kevine/turnkey/alsa.html -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Fri, 2003-08-22 at 02:53, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 10:44 pm, ed tharp wrote: > > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote: > > > On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > > > On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where > > > > a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not > > > > expired (for a finished system notification sound, for > > > > example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much > > > > shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am > > > > thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from > > > > this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. > > > > > > > > Rolf > > > > > > That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. > > > > > > Anne > > > > > > might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't > > > have the problem > > I changed it to 1. If it still gives a problem I'll try removing it > altogether before trying anything else, though I'm reluctant to do > that, as I understand that it can be a real problemif it isn't forced > to release. > > Anne > I wonder what sort of problem,, as mine has been set like that for since about a week after 9.1 came out, adn I have not experienced any sound problems. > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 1:19 am, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Thursday 21 August 2003 02:23 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I don't have anything at all about ALSA. I have two entries > > concerning External Midi Device. As I told Steffen, the second > > (selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but > > the first one has > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small > > square. > > > > This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any > > difference (don't see why it should). > > > > I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit. Why am I getting no reference > > to ALSA? Any ideas? > > There are two different sound driver architectures for Linux. OSS > and ALSA. I use Alsa because I read that OSS is older and > supposedly not as good. You might be using OSS in which case, you > can install Alsa and you should be able to switch over to it and > your sound problems might improve. My own sound card was > originally detected and set to OSS but I switched it, again because > I read that Alsa was better. > I understand that, but alsa is installed. As you found, the default is to use oss. How did you switch it to use alsa? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 10:44 pm, ed tharp wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote: > > On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > > On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where > > > a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not > > > expired (for a finished system notification sound, for > > > example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much > > > shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am > > > thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from > > > this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. > > > > > > Rolf > > > > That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. > > > > Anne > > > > might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't > > have the problem I changed it to 1. If it still gives a problem I'll try removing it altogether before trying anything else, though I'm reluctant to do that, as I understand that it can be a real problemif it isn't forced to release. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Friday 22 Aug 2003 7:30 am, Todd Lyons wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Anne Wilson wanted us to know: > >My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly > >frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound > >corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more > >than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). > > I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and > changing permissions on some file or socket or device node. > Could be, Todd. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anne Wilson wanted us to know: >My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly >frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound >corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more >than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). I'd guess that msec is running in the middle of the night and changing permissions on some file or socket or device node. - -- Blue skies... Todd Public key: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc cannonball: you gonna wear your ferengi ears? :) scandal: everyone knows its the year of the Romulan..*slap* trust me to show up unfashionably dressed to a scifi convention Linux kernel 2.4.21-0.25mdk 6 users, load average: 0.00, 0.04, 0.07 -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) Comment: http://www.mrball.net/todd.asc iD8DBQE/Rbh+IBT1264ScBURAkORAJ9xXk3UoRlbyk8EZltpHFR+iFHVFwCg0NhI VbhPfOiOcCwiDC0E+GSbCYU= =144z -END PGP SIGNATURE- Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 August 2003 02:23 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > I don't have anything at all about ALSA. I have two entries > concerning External Midi Device. As I told Steffen, the second > (selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but the > first one has > [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small > square. > > This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any difference > (don't see why it should). > > I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit. Why am I getting no reference to > ALSA? Any ideas? There are two different sound driver architectures for Linux. OSS and ALSA. I use Alsa because I read that OSS is older and supposedly not as good. You might be using OSS in which case, you can install Alsa and you should be able to switch over to it and your sound problems might improve. My own sound card was originally detected and set to OSS but I switched it, again because I read that Alsa was better. snip from a posting: --cut-- > Philosophically (and technically) speaking, are there real advantages for > me to install alsa (other than the above) when OSS/free works for me? I If OSS works for you, then no. ALSA's primary advantages are: [common] - separation of kernel and user-space code [all] - ALSA library can provide more functionality to applications (format conversions, sharing soundcard resources, dsp plugins) - benefits ALSA-native apps [alsa-kernel/alsa-driver] - better driver architecture - more shared code between drivers for different soundcards -> fixes and improvements to common code affect all drivers -> drivers behave more uniformly - benefits both ALSA-native and apps using OSS-emulation - support for pro-level soundcards without performance problems - for instance handling devices that only support noninterleaved buffer layout - befefits ALSA-native apps (and in some cases also apps using OSS-emulation) [alsa-lib] - better API for applications [alsa-lib] - more flexible configuration of various parameters - well-designed API for acquiring realtime status information (for various playback/capture synchronation purposes) - benefits ALSA-native apps So shortly put, ALSA provides a better framework for writing drivers and for developing audio applications. When comparing OSS/Free and ALSA from an end-user's point of view, it comes down to the quality of the drivers for the soundcard type in question, and the specific applications that are used. Some OSS/Free drivers are very good and support all OSS API features. If this is the case and all apps seem to work ok, you don't have much to gain from switching to ALSA... yet. By Kai Vehmanen -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 15:57, Anne Wilson wrote: > On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > > > On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a > > sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not > > expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). > > Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I > > have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that > > are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure > > exactly what is doing what. FWIW. > > > > Rolf > > That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. > > Anne > > might be the whole problem, since mine is unchecked and I don't have > the problem > __ > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
Anne Wilson wrote: On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:32 pm, ed tharp wrote: On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote: I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. Anne I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card (SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now. Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for system sounds. under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked , Start aRTs at KDE startup, run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages using artsmessage I have the same + autosuspend if idle for 60 seconds On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure exactly what is doing what. FWIW. Rolf Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 August 2003 12:11 pm, Anne Wilson wrote: > I wish I understood this sound setup - I can't make head nor tail of > it. HardDrake seems to say that I am running emu10k2 with OSS. When > I look at Services in MCC I see that alsa is available, although > stopped. I expected that to be the place to disable artsd, but > obviously I was wrong, so how do I do that? Is it a 'service stop' > command? Go into Configuration, KDE, Sound, Sound System You should see a checkbox with start aRts soundserver on KDE startup and if you are running arts, it will be checked. Uncheck it and then you can just issue a ps -k artsd or logout and log back into KDE BTW, if you go to the Sound I/O tab, there is a checkbox for Enable full duplex operation. I have that box unchecked now because the noises that I was hearing on multiple application access actually got better when I unchecked that option. However, then you can only listen to one thing at a time. You might try playing with that setting to see what happens. AFAIK, the SB Audigy is perfectly capable of full duplex operation and should have no problems supporting it but with proprietary hardware, there are all kinds of possible issues with the linux driver implementation. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:32 pm, ed tharp wrote: > On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just > > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. > > > > Anne > > I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card > (SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is > up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now. > Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for > system sounds. > under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked , Start aRTs at KDE startup, > run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages > using artsmessage I have the same + autosuspend if idle for 60 seconds > under sound I/O tab, I have enable full duplex, and audio buffer > size set to 208 millisec. I had the same - I have just dropped the full duplex as a trial, but if you have it enabled and no problem that can probably go back. > under Midi, I just have 5 entries that say "ALSA device". I don't have anything at all about ALSA. I have two entries concerning External Midi Device. As I told Steffen, the second (selected one) looks absolutely normal, showing EMU10K1 Midi, but the first one has [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port - but instead of o there is a small square. This is an Audigy Platinum, btw, in case that makes any difference (don't see why it should). I'm puzzled about this ALSA bit. Why am I getting no reference to ALSA? Any ideas? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 8:37 pm, Rolf Pedersen wrote: > On the autosuspend, a long time ago, I found a situation where a > sound app would not start because the 60 sec time out had not > expired (for a finished system notification sound, for example). > Setting this to one second made the delay that much shorter, so I > have changed that setting ever since. I am thinking that apps that > are 'arts-unaware' might benefit from this change but not sure > exactly what is doing what. FWIW. > > Rolf That's a thought, Rolf. I'll shorten that time. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 August 2003 11:32 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit together > would be much appreciated. Thanks, Steffen Anne, you might want to take a look at this: http://www.arts-project.org/doc/handbook/ I would suggest playing with latency settings in the arts control panel in KDE. That may improve things. Also, increasing the sleep time so that arts daemon goes to sleep when not in use a tad quicker might help. I am pretty sure that the noise has to do with duplex activity but if you want to run more than one sound application at the same time, full duplex is the only way to do it. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 5:23 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 17:32 schrieb Anne Wilson: > > True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every > > time there is mail. My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2. > > HardDrake seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa. I don't > > know where artsd fits in to the picture. Are you saying that > > artsd is what plays system sounds? If so, I guess it will turn > > off via 'services', right? I could give that a try. > > configuration => kde => sounds => soundserver. I have then and now > this scratching in the mail notification of kmail, but xmms f.i. > isn't affected anymore (plays fine at the same time) . Yes > kde-sounds should be played trough artsd if it is running. If, not > aplay is used (All AFAIK!). Saying that you have OSS and I have > alsa it seems more and more to be an artsd issue. I don't know if > your card can full duplex (letting access more then one app to the > /dev/dsp) from my knowledge it depends on OSS if the soundcard > supports it. > > > I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit > > together would be much appreciated. Thanks, Steffen > > Yep would like to know as well what is causing it , if there is a > chance it isn't the soundcard driver. Maybe with 9.2 all this isn't > an issue anymore and I hope I can as fast as possible switch to > 9.2. > OK - now I know where to find it, I can start to play with it. It will be a long slow job, as it can be a couple of days sometimes between problems. Anyway, I've started by turning off the full duplex. If that doesn't cure it I'll turn off the Start aRTs at boot. While I have been typing this a message flashed onto the screen. I only caught a glimpse, but I think it said something about soundserver, so perhaps it has just written/read the changed config file. Meanwhile, on the midi tab I have two entries. The second one is fine (EMU10K1 MIDI - External Midi Port), but the first one looks like [EMAIL PROTECTED]@e - External Midi Port except that the o is not an o, but a small square. Have you got anything like that? My card is the Audigy Platinum, with a front panel. There are physically two sources of midi input, then, but I don't know if they should have separate entries. I rarely use midi input - it's too big a hassle to move furniture - so I've no idea whether selecting the odd one would enable the front panel input. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 4:31 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Thursday 21 August 2003 08:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just > > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. > > > > Anne > > Well, offhand, one thing that I can think of is that there is some > issue with the arts daemon and interaction with drivers on your > sound card. My intermittent sound glitches seemed to get worse > after enabling the arts sound daemon with the duplex functionality > enabled. That is what allows multiple applications to play sounds > at the same time. At the time, I figured that the sound driver > didn't interact well with that functionality because the sound > never had any glitches when I was using straight OSS which doesn't > allow duplex activity. > I wish I understood this sound setup - I can't make head nor tail of it. HardDrake seems to say that I am running emu10k2 with OSS. When I look at Services in MCC I see that alsa is available, although stopped. I expected that to be the place to disable artsd, but obviously I was wrong, so how do I do that? Is it a 'service stop' command? > You might try diabling arts to see if that fixes things and if so, > you will at least know the neighborhood of the error, if not the > exact cause. I'm banging my head on the wall - I just can't get this into my head. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thu, 2003-08-21 at 08:26, Anne Wilson wrote: > I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. > > Anne > I donna know, but I think we have pretty much the same sound card (SB-Audigy), and i don't have no such trouble, and my X windows is up 24/7 going on 4 weeks now. Let's compare the settings i have in the KDE control center for system sounds. under aRTs tab, I have (only) checked , Start aRTs at KDE startup, run sound server with real time priority, and, display messages using artsmessage under sound I/O tab, I have enable full duplex, and audio buffer size set to 208 millisec. under Midi, I just have 5 entries that say "ALSA device". Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 17:32 schrieb Anne Wilson: > On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:33 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: > > Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this > > comes if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often > > caused by aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived. > > ( I have switched this crappy artsd off on my system. ) > > True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every time > there is mail. My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2. HardDrake > seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa. I don't know where > artsd fits in to the picture. Are you saying that artsd is what > plays system sounds? If so, I guess it will turn off via 'services', > right? I could give that a try. configuration => kde => sounds => soundserver. I have then and now this scratching in the mail notification of kmail, but xmms f.i. isn't affected anymore (plays fine at the same time) . Yes kde-sounds should be played trough artsd if it is running. If, not aplay is used (All AFAIK!). Saying that you have OSS and I have alsa it seems more and more to be an artsd issue. I don't know if your card can full duplex (letting access more then one app to the /dev/dsp) from my knowledge it depends on OSS if the soundcard supports it. > I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit > together would be much appreciated. Thanks, Steffen Yep would like to know as well what is causing it , if there is a chance it isn't the soundcard driver. Maybe with 9.2 all this isn't an issue anymore and I hope I can as fast as possible switch to 9.2. Greets Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:33 pm, Steffen Barszus wrote: > Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 13:46 schrieb Anne Wilson: > > Hi Anne ! > Hi, Steffen > > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly > > frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound > > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for > > more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). > > Well I know that thing as it occurs here too. > OK - so it's not entirely down to me > > > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system > > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), > > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of > > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find. If > > I log out and in again the problem disappears. > > Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this > comes if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often > caused by aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived. > ( I have switched this crappy artsd off on my system. ) > True, the system sound and the wav file are both called every time there is mail. My card is an Audigy, running on emu10k2. HardDrake seems to be saying that it uses OSS, not alsa. I don't know where artsd fits in to the picture. Are you saying that artsd is what plays system sounds? If so, I guess it will turn off via 'services', right? I could give that a try. > > Can anyone suggest a likely cause? > > On my system a 'service alsa restart' has fixed this issue all the > time. If you have arts running and a relogin fixes it, it may be > arts. It is interesting tough, since I thought all the time it is a > bad soundcard driver. I have a Terratec DMX Fire 1024 using cs46xx > driver and with the switch from 9.0 to 9.1 it got a lot better, > with 9.2 beta1 I have the feeling sound is even better again, but > that may be subjective. On further problem I may have here is that > I have some dma problems (not enough bandwith on pci I guess, > caused by my dvb card and sound card and high system load => cdrdao > cue-burning ) Never had such things with the onboard sound, but the > Terratec sounds so much better i stay with restarting alsa ;) > > short: Possible fix: switching off system sound ;) > I'll look at that, but any more info on how these modules fit together would be much appreciated. Thanks, Steffen Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 August 2003 08:26 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just > logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. > > Anne Well, offhand, one thing that I can think of is that there is some issue with the arts daemon and interaction with drivers on your sound card. My intermittent sound glitches seemed to get worse after enabling the arts sound daemon with the duplex functionality enabled. That is what allows multiple applications to play sounds at the same time. At the time, I figured that the sound driver didn't interact well with that functionality because the sound never had any glitches when I was using straight OSS which doesn't allow duplex activity. You might try diabling arts to see if that fixes things and if so, you will at least know the neighborhood of the error, if not the exact cause. -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
Am Donnerstag, 21. August 2003 13:46 schrieb Anne Wilson: Hi Anne ! > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly > frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more > than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). Well I know that thing as it occurs here too. > (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to > pick up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it > collecting from time to time over the night.) no reason to argument ;). If you want do so, you should be able to do it. > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds > (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every > sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but > at high volume - best description I can find. If I log out and in > again the problem disappears. Yep high frequent noise. As it was pointed out I think that this comes if more then one sound is played. On my system it was often caused by aplay that plays the system sound then mail has arrived. ( I have switched this crappy artsd off on my system. ) > Can anyone suggest a likely cause? On my system a 'service alsa restart' has fixed this issue all the time. If you have arts running and a relogin fixes it, it may be arts. It is interesting tough, since I thought all the time it is a bad soundcard driver. I have a Terratec DMX Fire 1024 using cs46xx driver and with the switch from 9.0 to 9.1 it got a lot better, with 9.2 beta1 I have the feeling sound is even better again, but that may be subjective. On further problem I may have here is that I have some dma problems (not enough bandwith on pci I guess, caused by my dvb card and sound card and high system load => cdrdao cue-burning ) Never had such things with the onboard sound, but the Terratec sounds so much better i stay with restarting alsa ;) short: Possible fix: switching off system sound ;) Steffen Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 3:07 pm, Dick Gevers wrote: > On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:10 +0100, Anne Wilson > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote about [expert] Sound corruption: > >The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system > > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), > > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of > > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find. > > It`s a trojan horse rearing it`s head as it can`t find a windows > kernel. > > >If I log out and in > >again the problem disappears. > > Probably scared him into hiding. > LOL Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thu, 21 Aug 2003 12:46:10 +0100, Anne Wilson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote about [expert] Sound corruption: >The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds >(never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every >sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but >at high volume - best description I can find. It`s a trojan horse rearing it`s head as it can`t find a windows kernel. >If I log out and in >again the problem disappears. Probably scared him into hiding. Ciao, =Dick Gevers= Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 Aug 2003 1:15 pm, Bryan Phinney wrote: > On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:46 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly > > frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound > > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for > > more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). > > > > (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to > > pick up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it > > collecting from time to time over the night.) > > I have fetchmail running to collect mail, at least to the spool but > it runs in daemon mode, so I don't need to be logged in for this > occur. Might not be what you want but I don't see a connection > between the sound problems and being logged in short of regular > noise being pumped through the system due to a desktop being up. > Setting up a better mail collection system is one of those jobs that I keep meaning to do . I do have a wav attached to kmail's notifier, as the system beep is not loud enough to catch my attention if I'm doing things away from the computer. This has not always been so, it was very loud at first, but after about a week I began to have this quieter sound. I have played with aumix and kmix, to no avail. Of course, much of the mail on the mdk lists comes from USA and Canada, so arrives during the night for me, so there could be a fairly regular use of the wav file - it polls every three minutes. > I assume that you have a GUI up all the time, not just logged into > the console... > Yup - kmail is fetching, under kde. > > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system > > sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), > > and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of > > the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find. If > > I log out and in again the problem disappears. > > I have noticed weird catches in my sound as well, at odd times, but > mostly after doing things with multiple sounds being pumped through > Arts. I have always though it was some type of issue with the > fairly new sound hardware on my motherboard. Figured that better > drivers would come out in the next version or so. > I guess we'll soon know the answer to that. > > Can anyone suggest a likely cause? > > Perhaps heat from the active system? Is the case cooled well? Did > this just start to happen or has it been an ongoing thing? I don't think it's a heat problem. Besides, if it were so, just logging out wouldn't clear it, I think. Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound corruption
On Thursday 21 August 2003 07:46 am, Anne Wilson wrote: > My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly > frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound > corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more > than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). > > (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to pick > up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it collecting > from time to time over the night.) I have fetchmail running to collect mail, at least to the spool but it runs in daemon mode, so I don't need to be logged in for this occur. Might not be what you want but I don't see a connection between the sound problems and being logged in short of regular noise being pumped through the system due to a desktop being up. I assume that you have a GUI up all the time, not just logged into the console... > > The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds > (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every > sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but > at high volume - best description I can find. If I log out and in > again the problem disappears. I have noticed weird catches in my sound as well, at odd times, but mostly after doing things with multiple sounds being pumped through Arts. I have always though it was some type of issue with the fairly new sound hardware on my motherboard. Figured that better drivers would come out in the next version or so. > > Can anyone suggest a likely cause? Perhaps heat from the active system? Is the case cooled well? Did this just start to happen or has it been an ongoing thing? -- Bryan Phinney Software Test Engineer Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound corruption
My box runs 24/7, but I have to log out and in again fairly frequently. The reason for this is that I get a really bad sound corruption that seems to occur when I have been logged in for more than 24 hours (but not a regular pattern, I think). (Now you may say that I should not be logged in, but I do like to pick up all my mail first thing in the morning, so I leave it collecting from time to time over the night.) The sound corruption that I'm experiencing comes with system sounds (never tried a cd or mp3 while the corruption is there), and every sound is accompanied by something like a clearing of the throat, but at high volume - best description I can find. If I log out and in again the problem disappears. Can anyone suggest a likely cause? Anne Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problems
I remember a thread in which i had this problem, but not when. Anyway i fixed the problem with alsamixer then did a service alsa restart to make sure it worked. Before knowing this I had a workaround i.e. putting a script into ~/.kde/Autostart directory with aumix -L to use my default value. Try one way Angelo --- Albert Charron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hi. I'm running Mandrake 9.1. I have a > SoundBlaster 512 PCI with 4 speakers. > > My problem is everytime I restart my computer, I > have to go into KMix to reset all my sound settings. > If I don't do this, sound is very crappy and I have > to turn the volume of my speakers to the max to be > able to ear something. > > I tried to save the volume settings as default with > no result. Does anybody got this problem with a > similar sound card? If so how can I solve it? > > Thanks for your help > > +---+ > | Albert Charron >| > +---+ > | Linux Registered user: 157482 >| > |- Registered computers: 164158, 195048, 205791, > 205792 | > +---+ > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound problems
Hi. I'm running Mandrake 9.1. I have a SoundBlaster 512 PCI with 4 speakers. My problem is everytime I restart my computer, I have to go into KMix to reset all my sound settings. If I don't do this, sound is very crappy and I have to turn the volume of my speakers to the max to be able to ear something. I tried to save the volume settings as default with no result. Does anybody got this problem with a similar sound card? If so how can I solve it? Thanks for your help +---+ | Albert Charron| +---+ | Linux Registered user: 157482 | |- Registered computers: 164158, 195048, 205791, 205792 | +---+ Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problem after MB upgrade
On Monday 28 July 2003 10:28 pm, Joeb wrote: > Thomas K. Gamble wrote: > >I recently upgraded my MB to a Tyan Thunder K7X Pro and now I'm > > having problems with sound in MDK 9.1. I'm using the same sound > > card as before (SB live) and same MDK version (stock kernel). > > Here's a description of what happens: > > > >After a reboot sound players like xmms will lock up when attempting > > to play a sound file. I can get sound to work by killing the app > > and kmix, restarting alsad and soundd, then restarting kmix. > > Strangely, kmix has the master and PCM controls muted when I > > restart it at this point. Unmute and sound works with one glitch: > > If I try to adjust the volume from xmms, the sound stops. Twiddle > > the PCM control in kmix and sound comes back. > > > >Any clues as to what might cause this strange behavior? Would a > > kernel upgrade fix this? > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > >Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > Does this MB have an onboard sound card and is it still enabled in > CMOS? If so, disable it. Otherwise, you might look at > /proc/interrupts and see if the sound card is using the same > interrupt as some other card (most likely network or video). If it > is, you might try moving it to a different slot in the computer and > see if that solves it (it seems PCI cards sometimes assign interrupts > based on which slot a card is in). No onboard sound card and /proc/interrupts doesn't show any conflicts. One other strange thing though. Harddrake shows the card under 'Unknown/Other' although it's correctly identified as SB Live! (audio) and has the correct driver (snd-emu10k1). I may try moving it to another slot and let harddrake reconfigure it to see if it makes a difference. I hate to reinstall just to solve this. > > Joeb -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics & Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problem after MB upgrade
Thomas K. Gamble wrote: I recently upgraded my MB to a Tyan Thunder K7X Pro and now I'm having problems with sound in MDK 9.1. I'm using the same sound card as before (SB live) and same MDK version (stock kernel). Here's a description of what happens: After a reboot sound players like xmms will lock up when attempting to play a sound file. I can get sound to work by killing the app and kmix, restarting alsad and soundd, then restarting kmix. Strangely, kmix has the master and PCM controls muted when I restart it at this point. Unmute and sound works with one glitch: If I try to adjust the volume from xmms, the sound stops. Twiddle the PCM control in kmix and sound comes back. Any clues as to what might cause this strange behavior? Would a kernel upgrade fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com Does this MB have an onboard sound card and is it still enabled in CMOS? If so, disable it. Otherwise, you might look at /proc/interrupts and see if the sound card is using the same interrupt as some other card (most likely network or video). If it is, you might try moving it to a different slot in the computer and see if that solves it (it seems PCI cards sometimes assign interrupts based on which slot a card is in). Joeb Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problem after MB upgrade
On Monday 28 July 2003 09:11 am, Eric Huff wrote: > FWIW, this is what i had to do on my 1st install of 9.1 (2nd worked > ok): > > 0. Run and save kmix > > 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) > 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being > non-zero). > Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: > the sliders all go to zero) > 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back > to non-zero values) > 4. Save settings > > 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not > > IF you're running ALSA drivers: > > after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) > and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... No joy. Still requires the same nonsense to get it to work. The only difference I noticed was that cycling the aumix mute, setting the levels and saving lets me adjust the volume from xmms without the PCM control muting itself. Some progress though. Thanks. > > eric -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics & Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problem after MB upgrade
FWIW, this is what i had to do on my 1st install of 9.1 (2nd worked ok): 0. Run and save kmix 1. Run the aumix gui (i just type aumix at the cl) 2. Under Mute, "Mute All" is checked (despite the sliders being non-zero). Click "Mute All" to uncheck it (this will actually mute all: the sliders all go to zero) 3. Now go back and reselect mute all (the sliders then all go back to non-zero values) 4. Save settings 5. Sound should now work, try alsamixergui if not IF you're running ALSA drivers: after installing the alsa-utils, i ran alsactl store (as root) and rebooted. Sound worked on bootup w/o fiddling... eric On Mon, 28 Jul 2003 07:14:11 -0600 "Thomas K. Gamble" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I recently upgraded my MB to a Tyan Thunder K7X Pro and now I'm having > > problems with sound in MDK 9.1. I'm using the same sound card as > before (SB live) and same MDK version (stock kernel). Here's a > description of what happens: > > After a reboot sound players like xmms will lock up when attempting to > > play a sound file. I can get sound to work by killing the app and > kmix, restarting alsad and soundd, then restarting kmix. Strangely, > kmix has the master and PCM controls muted when I restart it at this > point. Unmute and sound works with one glitch: If I try to adjust > the volume from xmms, the sound stops. Twiddle the PCM control in > kmix and sound comes back. > > Any clues as to what might cause this strange behavior? Would a > kernel upgrade fix this? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound problem after MB upgrade
I recently upgraded my MB to a Tyan Thunder K7X Pro and now I'm having problems with sound in MDK 9.1. I'm using the same sound card as before (SB live) and same MDK version (stock kernel). Here's a description of what happens: After a reboot sound players like xmms will lock up when attempting to play a sound file. I can get sound to work by killing the app and kmix, restarting alsad and soundd, then restarting kmix. Strangely, kmix has the master and PCM controls muted when I restart it at this point. Unmute and sound works with one glitch: If I try to adjust the volume from xmms, the sound stops. Twiddle the PCM control in kmix and sound comes back. Any clues as to what might cause this strange behavior? Would a kernel upgrade fix this? -- Thomas K. Gamble Los Alamos National Laboratory Advanced Diagnostics & Instrumentation (C-ADI) p:505-665-4323 f:505-665-4267 MS-E543 Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] sound recording in Mandrake9 KDE3...anyone?
Hi All, I am trying to use artsrec and artscat to record and playback sound in KDE3, Mandrake 9. I could succesffully record and playback in GNOME using ESound and it's utilitiesesdrec and esdcat. In KDE artscat works but artsrec recorded files are completely silent. I have my mic (recording source) and Input Gain set to full using KMix. Anyone has any suggestions, ideas, comments? --Sandeep Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Is Impossible
Daryl Johnson wrote: >On Friday 12 July 2002 13:46, civileme wrote: > >>Daryl Johnson wrote: >> >[...] > >>>00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) >>>Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 8001 >>>Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 >>>I/O ports at cc00 [size=64] >>>Capabilities >>> >>>The last line certainly makes me gnash my teeth because I can't see why >>>that would be the case, however... >>> >[...] > >>>Daryl >>> > >>Yep, when you buy on the leading edge you soon know what it is to be >>sliding down the razor blade of life. There is typically a gap of 3-6 >>months for linux to catch up and support new hardware because >>manufacturers rarely prioritize linux drivers and sometimes are very >>tight-lipped about tech info. >> >>But for THAT card I have seen unfavorable reports even with some >>versaions of Windows. >> >>Civileme >> > >I suppose, on the plus side, by inference, my set-up is more or less as you >might expect in a working set-up? > >I mean I may as well take some satisfaction from knowing that everything is >as it should be (except it doesn't work :o( ) > >regards > >Daryl > Inded it is, and you can add a lot to your index of knowledge gained for your trouble. Civileme Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Is Impossible
On Friday 12 July 2002 13:46, civileme wrote: > Daryl Johnson wrote: [...] > >00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) > >Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 8001 > >Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 > >I/O ports at cc00 [size=64] > >Capabilities > > > >The last line certainly makes me gnash my teeth because I can't see why > > that would be the case, however... [...] > >Daryl > Yep, when you buy on the leading edge you soon know what it is to be > sliding down the razor blade of life. There is typically a gap of 3-6 > months for linux to catch up and support new hardware because > manufacturers rarely prioritize linux drivers and sometimes are very > tight-lipped about tech info. > > But for THAT card I have seen unfavorable reports even with some > versaions of Windows. > > Civileme I suppose, on the plus side, by inference, my set-up is more or less as you might expect in a working set-up? I mean I may as well take some satisfaction from knowing that everything is as it should be (except it doesn't work :o( ) regards Daryl -- memo, n.: An interoffice communication too often written more for the benefit of the person who sends it than the person who receives it. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Is Impossible
On Friday 12 July 2002 17:55, Larry Sword wrote: > Daryl, [...] > Since there are a number of SoundBlasters out there can you provide more > info on your sound card, the 4.1. Is it a Live or the new Audigy series, > or an older card? > > Larry Al I can tell you is in the posting :o( The box says it's made by Creative and it's a Sound Blaster 4.1 Digital. More than that I can't say because that's all the reference on box and printed material. Civilme says it's bleeding edge technology which isn't particularly encouraging :o( regards Daryl -- A man in love is incomplete until he is married. Then he is finished. -- Zsa Zsa Gabor, "Newsweek" Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound Is Impossible
Daryl Johnson wrote: >It's taken me 4 weeks of fairly constant tinkering, adjustment and >experimentation to arrive at the conclusion that it is impossible to >configure my sound card - which seems remarkable as in most ways it is >getting recognised. > >Forgive the long post but if anyone has anything constructive to add at least >all the information should be here :o) > >Hardware Configuration > >ABIT VP6 mother board >Twin Pentium III processors 1000 mhz >512Mb ram >1 x 40 Gb drives >1 x HP CdROM RW >1 x Adaptec SCSI I/F >1 x Travan SCSI tape >1 x GE Force 2MX video card >1 x Creative Blaster 4.1 Digital > >Software > >Started with a purchase of Mandrake 8.0 Powerpack because I liked 7.2 >Currently using 8.2 because it came on the cover of Linux Today and I hoped >it would self-configure the sound. > >The Bios in the machine has been tried with plug'n play switched on and off. >It's currently on > >Information > >Output from dmesg shows no recognition of a sound card at all, though there >have been times during this saga when I have seen es1371 mentioned. > >My /etc/modules.conf is : > >alias usb-interface usb-uhci > ># ALSA native device support >alias char-major-116 snd >options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 >alias snd-card-0 snd-card-ens1371 > ># OSS/Free setup >alias char-major-14 soundcore >alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 >alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss >alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss >alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss >alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss > >probeall scsi_hostadapter advansys >alias eth0 3c59x > >Output from lsmod is: > >Module Size Used byNot tainted >sr_mod 15192 0 (autoclean) (unused) >snd-seq-midi3424 0 (autoclean) (unused) >snd-seq-oss26112 0 (unused) >snd-seq-midi-event 3504 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss] >snd-seq43056 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss >snd-seq-midi-event] >snd-pcm-oss18848 1 >snd-pcm-plugin 16144 0 [snd-pcm-oss] >snd-mixer-oss 4704 0 [snd-pcm-oss] >parport_pc 22280 1 (autoclean) >lp 6624 0 (autoclean) >parport25440 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] >snd-card-ens13712208 1 >snd-ens137110624 0 [snd-card-ens1371] >snd-pcm33824 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-ens1371] >snd-timer 9568 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] >snd-rawmidi10688 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-ens1371] >snd-seq-device 4028 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq >snd-rawmidi] >snd-ac97-codec 25504 0 [snd-ens1371] >snd-mixer 25416 0 [snd-mixer-oss snd-ens1371 snd-ac97-codec] >snd35648 1 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss >snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss >snd-card-ens1371 snd-ens1371 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device >snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer] >soundcore 4452 7 [snd] >nfsd 70592 8 (autoclean) >lockd 50080 1 (autoclean) [nfsd] >sunrpc 67860 1 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd] >af_packet 13896 0 (autoclean) >ipchains 38440 0 >usb-uhci 22692 0 (unused) >usbcore62048 1 [usb-uhci] >3c59x 26536 1 (autoclean) >st 28052 0 (unused) >supermount 62308 2 (autoclean) >ide-scsi8096 0 >rtc 6680 0 (autoclean) >reiserfs 172032 6 >advansys 86668 0 (unused) >sd_mod 11512 0 (unused) >scsi_mod 96060 5 [sr_mod st ide-scsi advansys sd_mod] > >The relevant line from ps reads: > > 2737 ?S 0:09 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -d -b 16 -s 1 -m >artsmes > >Running drakxservices shows that both Alsa and Sound are started at boot and >running. Checking further I find that in Control Centre my board is >recognised as an Ensoniq 5880 Audio PCI using kernel module es1371 (which was >why I used this module when setting up modules.conf) The configuration tool >produces nothing however and neither does sndconfig. > >The IRQ is 11 and is shared between advansys, usb and ensoniq >The ports are cc00-cc3f Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI > >Interestingly the PCI report states: > >00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) >Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 8001 >Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 >I/O ports at cc00 [size=64] >Capabilities > >The last line certainly makes me gnash my teeth because I can't see why that >would be the case, however... > >I am at the end of my tether. The card appears to be recognised and has a >module available but has defied all my efforts to get a peep out of it. > >If there are any suggestions I would be more than willing to hear/try them >out. As I say, after 4 hard weeks I figure I'm o
[expert] Sound Is Impossible
It's taken me 4 weeks of fairly constant tinkering, adjustment and experimentation to arrive at the conclusion that it is impossible to configure my sound card - which seems remarkable as in most ways it is getting recognised. Forgive the long post but if anyone has anything constructive to add at least all the information should be here :o) Hardware Configuration ABIT VP6 mother board Twin Pentium III processors 1000 mhz 512Mb ram 1 x 40 Gb drives 1 x HP CdROM RW 1 x Adaptec SCSI I/F 1 x Travan SCSI tape 1 x GE Force 2MX video card 1 x Creative Blaster 4.1 Digital Software Started with a purchase of Mandrake 8.0 Powerpack because I liked 7.2 Currently using 8.2 because it came on the cover of Linux Today and I hoped it would self-configure the sound. The Bios in the machine has been tried with plug'n play switched on and off. It's currently on Information Output from dmesg shows no recognition of a sound card at all, though there have been times during this saga when I have seen es1371 mentioned. My /etc/modules.conf is : alias usb-interface usb-uhci # ALSA native device support alias char-major-116 snd options snd snd_major = 116 snd_cards_limit = 1 alias snd-card-0 snd-card-ens1371 # OSS/Free setup alias char-major-14 soundcore alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0 alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss probeall scsi_hostadapter advansys alias eth0 3c59x Output from lsmod is: Module Size Used byNot tainted sr_mod 15192 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-seq-midi3424 0 (autoclean) (unused) snd-seq-oss26112 0 (unused) snd-seq-midi-event 3504 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss] snd-seq43056 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event] snd-pcm-oss18848 1 snd-pcm-plugin 16144 0 [snd-pcm-oss] snd-mixer-oss 4704 0 [snd-pcm-oss] parport_pc 22280 1 (autoclean) lp 6624 0 (autoclean) parport25440 1 (autoclean) [parport_pc lp] snd-card-ens13712208 1 snd-ens137110624 0 [snd-card-ens1371] snd-pcm33824 0 [snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-ens1371] snd-timer 9568 0 [snd-seq snd-pcm] snd-rawmidi10688 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-ens1371] snd-seq-device 4028 0 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq snd-rawmidi] snd-ac97-codec 25504 0 [snd-ens1371] snd-mixer 25416 0 [snd-mixer-oss snd-ens1371 snd-ac97-codec] snd35648 1 [snd-seq-midi snd-seq-oss snd-seq-midi-event snd-seq snd-pcm-oss snd-pcm-plugin snd-mixer-oss snd-card-ens1371 snd-ens1371 snd-pcm snd-timer snd-rawmidi snd-seq-device snd-ac97-codec snd-mixer] soundcore 4452 7 [snd] nfsd 70592 8 (autoclean) lockd 50080 1 (autoclean) [nfsd] sunrpc 67860 1 (autoclean) [nfsd lockd] af_packet 13896 0 (autoclean) ipchains 38440 0 usb-uhci 22692 0 (unused) usbcore62048 1 [usb-uhci] 3c59x 26536 1 (autoclean) st 28052 0 (unused) supermount 62308 2 (autoclean) ide-scsi8096 0 rtc 6680 0 (autoclean) reiserfs 172032 6 advansys 86668 0 (unused) sd_mod 11512 0 (unused) scsi_mod 96060 5 [sr_mod st ide-scsi advansys sd_mod] The relevant line from ps reads: 2737 ?S 0:09 /usr/bin/artsd -F 10 -S 4096 -d -b 16 -s 1 -m artsmes Running drakxservices shows that both Alsa and Sound are started at boot and running. Checking further I find that in Control Centre my board is recognised as an Ensoniq 5880 Audio PCI using kernel module es1371 (which was why I used this module when setting up modules.conf) The configuration tool produces nothing however and neither does sndconfig. The IRQ is 11 and is shared between advansys, usb and ensoniq The ports are cc00-cc3f Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI Interestingly the PCI report states: 00:0b.0 Multimedia audio controller: Ensoniq 5880 AudioPCI (rev 02) Subsystem: Ensoniq: Unknown device 8001 Flags: bus master, slow devsel, latency 64, IRQ 11 I/O ports at cc00 [size=64] Capabilities The last line certainly makes me gnash my teeth because I can't see why that would be the case, however... I am at the end of my tether. The card appears to be recognised and has a module available but has defied all my efforts to get a peep out of it. If there are any suggestions I would be more than willing to hear/try them out. As I say, after 4 hard weeks I figure I'm out of ideas and patience. The only thing I can say for certain is that there are plenty of people writing to a variety of ngs using this chip-set who
[expert] Sound Problems
Well, on the path of getting a soundblaster card running (ens1371) I find that I'm short of some devs /files. MAKEDEVS sound doesn't give me the results, in fact it results in an error message (operastion not permitted - yes, I am root) Any suggestions are welcome. regards Daryl -- A famous Lisp Hacker noticed an Undergraduate sitting in front of a Xerox 1108, trying to edit a complex Klone network via a browser. Wanting to help, the Hacker clicked one of the nodes in the network with the mouse, and asked "what do you see?" Very earnestly, the Undergraduate replied "I see a cursor." The Hacker then quickly pressed the boot toggle at the back of the keyboard, while simultaneously hitting the Undergraduate over the head with a thick Interlisp Manual. The Undergraduate was then Enlightened. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound in Xine
Hi,
I run xine to view a dvd. Xine shows the pictures fine without any
problems but I don't have any sound.
Otherwise sound works (CD, signal-wavs in KDE, etc). The audio tab in the
config screen of xine shows "audio driver to use: 'null'".
I use xine 0.9.8
wobo
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Re: [expert] Sound card problems.
On Monday 29 April 2002 02:40 pm, you wrote: > My sound card is not working at all... it was working fine when I was using > Mandrake 8.1 > I have a Yamaha YMF-724F [DF-1 Audio Controller] > Kernel Module: snd-card-ymfpci Bus type: PCI > > now I have Mandrake 8.2 and I can't get it to work at all... I tried to > download extra sound programs thru Mandrake (ex. search ==> snd) and > installed what I could... I still have nothing.. please advise? > > > > > > _ > Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Did you do a full install or an upgrade? I had the same problem with my k6-2 amd with sblive. I reinstalled the system and then all worked fine. Hopefully, you have a seperate /home partition and backup your config files from /etc if you have something groovy life postfix with imap and ldap configured and etc. -- Altoine B Maximum Time Unlimited Chicago Based and Operated I call them as I see them. If I can't see them, I make them up. -- Biff Barf --- 2.4.18-6mdk Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound card problems.
My sound card is not working at all... it was working fine when I was using Mandrake 8.1 I have a Yamaha YMF-724F [DF-1 Audio Controller] Kernel Module: snd-card-ymfpci Bus type: PCI now I have Mandrake 8.2 and I can't get it to work at all... I tried to download extra sound programs thru Mandrake (ex. search ==> snd) and installed what I could... I still have nothing.. please advise? _ Chat with friends online, try MSN Messenger: http://messenger.msn.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound Advice: Favorite Audio Utils from the Experts
Recently on prompting from a friend I installed Realplayer version 8 and have been astounded by the number of international stations I can recieve. Besides Baldur's Gate 2 this is the most I've used my Aureal 8830 card of late! There are some talk shows I'd like to share with other friends (G.Gordon Liddy for one), but I'm frankly bewildered by the sheer number of sound utilities out there. It would be nice to record the data stream from the sound card off the mixer device (is that correct procedure?) to .wav or mp3. My question is, what are the programs that you guys have settled on as keepers? Is there a toolset out there for recording to wav or mp3 from the soundcard? Is there something with a pretty GTK or QT face? Thanks in advance! LX -- °°° Kernel 2.4.8-26mdk Mandrake Linux 8.1 Enlightenment 0.16.5Evolution 1.02 Registered Linux User #268899 http://counter.li.org/ °°° _ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Sound now working in 8.2 was -- Re: [expert] Sound broken in 8.2 works fine in 8.1
I recompiled the kernel with the CMI8738 drivers built-into the kernel. I also got rid of a lot of apparently superflous sound stuff (OSS drivers?) and drivers for hardware I don't have. Now sound works fine. If anybody else with the same (or similar) hardware runs into this problem I'd be glad to mail them the contents of my /usr/src/linux/.config file. BTW, I also compiled in UDF write support and have done huge file copies to and from my DVDRAM and had no problems. Why is istill listed as dangerous when I run xmenuconfig? Are there specific things I should watch out for? msh wrote: > I just installed MDK 8.2 on a empty partition of my computer. I also > have 8.1 on a different partition. Sound works fine under 8.1 (using > the default setup chosen by the installer). The system I use has sound > built into the motherboard (MSI 845 Ultra) The MDK8.2 installer > indentifies my sound "card" as a C-Media electronics Inc. CM8738 (which > agrees with the motherboard documentation). > > also, in case it matters, when I boot into MDK8.2 I get the follwoing > message at one point: > > can't locate module fb.0 > > What does that mean? > > > In case it helps here is the > /etc/modules.conf file for MDK8.1 (the one that works): > > alias net-pf-4 ipx > pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start > alias usb-interface usb-uhci > alias sound-slot-0 cmpci > probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > alias eth0 8139too > alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > > > > Under MDK8.2 I've tried /etc/modules.conf: > alias net-pf-4 ipx > alias usb-interface usb-uhci > alias sound-slot-0 cmpci > #alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-cmipci > probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > alias eth0 8139too > #above snd-card-cmipci snd-pcm-oss > alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > > as well as: > > alias net-pf-4 ipx > alias usb-interface usb-uhci > alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-cmipci > probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > alias eth0 8139too > above snd-card-cmipci snd-pcm-oss > alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm > > I get no sound either way. When I try to test sound server using the > Mandrake control center I get the message: > > Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting. > > Does anybody have any ideas what to try next? > > > > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound broken in 8.2 works fine in 8.1
I just installed MDK 8.2 on a empty partition of my computer. I also have 8.1 on a different partition. Sound works fine under 8.1 (using the default setup chosen by the installer). The system I use has sound built into the motherboard (MSI 845 Ultra) The MDK8.2 installer indentifies my sound "card" as a C-Media electronics Inc. CM8738 (which agrees with the motherboard documentation). also, in case it matters, when I boot into MDK8.2 I get the follwoing message at one point: can't locate module fb.0 What does that mean? In case it helps here is the /etc/modules.conf file for MDK8.1 (the one that works): alias net-pf-4 ipx pre-install pcmcia_core CARDMGR_OPTS=-f /etc/rc.d/init.d/pcmcia start alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 cmpci probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm alias eth0 8139too alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm Under MDK8.2 I've tried /etc/modules.conf: alias net-pf-4 ipx alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 cmpci #alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-cmipci probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm alias eth0 8139too #above snd-card-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm as well as: alias net-pf-4 ipx alias usb-interface usb-uhci alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-cmipci probeall scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm alias eth0 8139too above snd-card-cmipci snd-pcm-oss alias scsi_hostadapter dc395x_trm I get no sound either way. When I try to test sound server using the Mandrake control center I get the message: Sound server fatal error: cpu overload, aborting. Does anybody have any ideas what to try next? Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound
sorry bout that.. i'm running mdk 8.1 on a amd k6-2 475 w/324 mb ram and a fortmedia fm801 pci sound card.. mb is a via chipset roy > - Original Message - > From: "Jason Guidry" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2002 8:37 PM > Subject: Re: [expert] Sound > > > > On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:34:58 -0600 "Roy Barton" wrote: > > > > > Can anyone explain to me how to turn up the sound settings under > > > linux? I have installed a compatible sound card and get no sound from > it. > > > > > > thanks, > > > > > > roy > > > > > > d00d, you knead to give us details cuando you write to the list. what wm > > are you using? KDE? > > what mdk version? > > > > if KDE, try: > > > > K -> Multimedia -> Sound Mixer > > > > my best guess. > > > > > > > > - > > This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com > > - > > > > Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? > > You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. > > > > Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com > > > > > > > > > > > -- -- > > > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? > > Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com > > > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound
Sounds like someone needs to take a trip to aumix, accessible by the command-line entry: aumix Have fun with it. Note well that the "mute" function is disabled/enabled by the "M" key on your keyboard. -- Asheesh. On Wed, 13 Mar 2002, Roy Barton wrote: > Can anyone explain to me how to turn up the sound settings under linux? I have >installed a compatible sound card and get no sound from it. > > thanks, > > roy > Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound
On Wed, 13 Mar 2002 20:34:58 -0600 "Roy Barton" wrote: > Can anyone explain to me how to turn up the sound settings under > linux? I have installed a compatible sound card and get no sound from it. > > thanks, > > roy d00d, you knead to give us details cuando you write to the list. what wm are you using? KDE? what mdk version? if KDE, try: K -> Multimedia -> Sound Mixer my best guess. - This message sent using EMUmail -- http://www.emumail.com - Jumping through hoops to get E-mail on the road? You've got two choices: Join the circus, or use MollyMail. Molly Mail -- http://www.mollymail.com Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound
On Wednesday 13 March 2002 09:34 pm, Roy Barton wrote: > Can anyone explain to me how to turn up the sound settings under linux? I > have installed a compatible sound card and get no sound from it. > > thanks, > > roy Roy: Not knowing which version of mandrake, which card and what "installed" means, it's a little hard to answer. The usual problem is that the kde sound mixer sets the volume to zero by default. If that isn't it, go to the documents section of mandrakeuser.org, and run a search for "sound". You'll get four pages of hits, some of which may be useful. hth -- -- cmg Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
[expert] Sound
Can anyone explain to me how to turn up the sound settings under linux? I have installed a compatible sound card and get no sound from it. thanks, roy
[expert] sound problem
I am using Mandrake 7.2, and have an old SoundBlaster in the machine. I used sndconfig to configure the system, and I heard Linus talking and the midi sample fine. When I try to use xmms to listen to an .mp3 file, it plays, but extrmly slow. It sounds like you are playing a 78 rpm record at 33 rpm, or more so. Anyone have any suggestions? Thanks, Bruce Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problems
Hehe. I have an ESS Solo1 and was having the very same problem. In my case, the only way to get it working at all was to build sound support and the ess solo1 (oss) driver into the kernel. THEN I was running into the "cup overload" thing. What I did, by trial and error (I tried just about everything else and by process of elimination and desperation...), was go into kcontrol -> sound-> mixer and set the max number of probed mixers and max numbers of devices each to 1. Since doing this I have not run into the cpu overload problem. Incidently, if you open up kcontrol after the message appears and restart the soundserver, it comes back up until something gets it all crazy again later and the cpu overload message reappears. Anyway, try what I mention above - perhaps your problem will go away as did mine. praedor On Tuesday 29 January 2002 09:06 am, Robert Goshko wrote: > Greetings all, > > I had my sound working under Mandrake 8.1, and now when I log into > KDE, everything comes up, and then I get a message: > > sound server fatal error > cpu overload, aborting > > I have not been able to fix the problem. > > HardDrake can see my sound card, ESS Technology, model ES1968 Maestro > 2 (I have a Dell Inspiron 7000). The configuration tool does not > play any sounds, but then I figured that if the sound server had > died, it wouldn't. > > Any ideas on how to get it going again? > > Thanks. Want to buy your Pack or Services from MandrakeSoft? Go to http://www.mandrakestore.com
Re: [expert] Sound problems
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 10:26, Praedor Tempus wrote: > Hehe. I have an ESS Solo1 and was having the very same problem. In my > case, the only way to get it working at all was to build sound support > and the ess solo1 (oss) driver into the kernel. THEN I was running > into the "cup overload" thing. What I did, by trial and error (I tried > just about everything else and by process of elimination and > desperation...), was go into kcontrol -> sound-> mixer and set the > max number of probed mixers and max numbers of devices each to 1. > Since doing this I have not run into the cpu overload problem. > > Incidently, if you open up kcontrol after the message appears and > restart the soundserver, it comes back up until something gets it all > crazy again later and the cpu overload message reappears. Anyway, try > what I mention above - perhaps your problem will go away as did mine. Thanks Praedor, that seems to have worked (I changed the settings in kcontrol -> sound -> mixer) if it continues, I'll recompile the kernel. -- ...Rob = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = 10:46am up 1:53, 2 users, load average: 1.08, 1.37, 1.49 msg48696/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[expert] Sound problems
Greetings all, I had my sound working under Mandrake 8.1, and now when I log into KDE, everything comes up, and then I get a message: sound server fatal error cpu overload, aborting I have not been able to fix the problem. HardDrake can see my sound card, ESS Technology, model ES1968 Maestro 2 (I have a Dell Inspiron 7000). The configuration tool does not play any sounds, but then I figured that if the sound server had died, it wouldn't. Any ideas on how to get it going again? Thanks. -- ...Rob = Robert Goshko Axis Computer Consulting Services, Inc President Sherwood Park, Alberta, Canada http://www.axis-dev.com/ Supporting the Revolution In Your World = 9:01am up 8 min, 2 users, load average: 2.58, 1.44, 0.67 msg48678/pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
