[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is Awakening something to be believed in? Does what you believe in have anything to do with becoming enlightened? Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will gain enlightenment, no matter what happens. Be one pointed on the Goal. Yup. Either that or don't care about it at all, and just live your life as it seems best to you, never giving even a thought to enlightenment. Or something in between. The thing is, I've seen all three approaches work. I suspect the bottom line is that there are no rules, and no single approach that works best for everyone. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] LSD??
THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3193820.stm President's elite body guards raping a university student, a cop raping a teenage girl, etc etc. Therefore India'simage hastaken a severe beating. I noticed some people having illusions about India which is whyi posted the news item. JimFlanegin thinks it's shit not worth reading. Not taking note of reality might put you in fool's paradise.OriginalMessage- From: "shempmcgurk" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 04:00:06 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it I don't understand the title of this thread. What exactly did INDIA do? Is the country of India somehow responsible for the rape? Yahoo! Photos Got holiday prints? See all the ways to get quality prints in your hands ASAP. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. snip Jim Flanegin thinks it's shit not worth reading. Not taking note of reality might put you in fool's paradise. I think that what Jim was expressing was his feeling that there might be more productive things in life to focus on -- and thus become -- than just another incident of violence in a violent world. In meditation one has a choice -- whether to focus on the object of meditation (or, in a TM context, whether to effortlessly come back to the mantra), or whether to remain lost in the thoughts and sensations that have arisen. That choice -- and what we do with it -- is what makes us human and gives us the ability to realize our enlightenment. Outside of meditation, we have the same choice. We could choose to focus on the dark stuff, like so many around us. But if you really *look* at the lives of so many around us and what they have become as a result of their focus on the dark stuff, is that what *you* want to become? If so, focus on the dark stuff. If not, there is another possibility. You can be aware of the dark stuff, and when it is possible do whatever you can to eliminate it by exposing it to light. But then the rest of the time, you can focus on something that is a tad more uplifting. Focus on laughter in a world of tears and it's the laughter you become, not the sadness. Focus on light in the midst of darkness, and you become light. 'Nuff said. You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD??
Not just LSD on this one... STP with LSD S(tars) T(hat) P(lay) with L(aughing) S(am's) D(ice) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD??
STP? according to www.streetdrugs.org DOM (4-Methyl-2,5-dimethoxyamphetamine) was introduced to the San Francisco drug scene in the late 1960's and given the nickname STP, an acronym for Serenity, Tranquility, and Peace. Doses of 1 to 3 milligrams generally produce mood alterations and minor perceptual alterations while larger doses can produce pronounced hallucinations that last from 8 to 10 hours. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just LSD on this one... STP with LSD S(tars) T(hat) P(lay) with L(aughing) S(am's) D(ice) --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just LSD on this one... STP with LSD S(tars) T(hat) P(lay) with L(aughing) S(am's) D(ice) Yup, and it shows. :-) STP was a short-lived hallucinogen that was supposedly developed by the military as a weapon. Its effects lasted for several days and were designed to incapacitate those who took it. The idea was to dump it into an enemy's water supply and then roll into town and take over while everyone was trippin'. Imagine the incredulity in the Army weapons division when hippies in the late 60s got ahold of the formula and started taking it for fun. Nothing like acid, really. I can't imagine anyone mixing them and thinking it would produce an enjoyable experience. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
I haven't noticed you jumping in and slamming 'scorpionland' material. Until this unpleasant backdoor racism stops then Jason is right to post material to balance it. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: South-African Model Gang-Raped in Mumbai, India Dude, in the future, please keep this shit to yourself. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD??
You mention the alleged connection between STP and the military. But wasn't that also true of LSD? I understand that the first LSD to hit the streets was from the government experiments at Menlo Park where Ken Kesey got paid to take LSD and speed. During that period he wrote 'One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest'. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just LSD on this one... STP with LSD S(tars) T(hat) P(lay) with L(aughing) S(am's) D(ice) Yup, and it shows. :-) STP was a short-lived hallucinogen that was supposedly developed by the military as a weapon. Its effects lasted for several days and were designed to incapacitate those who took it. The idea was to dump it into an enemy's water supply and then roll into town and take over while everyone was trippin'. Imagine the incredulity in the Army weapons division when hippies in the late 60s got ahold of the formula and started taking it for fun. Nothing like acid, really. I can't imagine anyone mixing them and thinking it would produce an enjoyable experience. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: LSD??
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You mention the alleged connection between STP and the military. But wasn't that also true of LSD? I understand that the first LSD to hit the streets was from the government experiments at Menlo Park where Ken Kesey got paid to take LSD and speed. During that period he wrote 'One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest'. Sorry, urban legend. 'The first acid to hit the streets' came directly from Switzerland, in bottles with the Sandoz label still on them. It wasn't illegal; if you were part of a legitimate Chem lab, even one associated with a university, you could order the stuff directly from Sandoz. When it was finally made illegal, that stopped, of course, but by then the formula had become so widespread that almost anyone with an adequate Chem background could make it. There is no question that the military was involved in testing hallucinogens, with an eye towards both using them as weapons and trying to figure out a defense if they were used as weapons on U.S. troops. But it's not as if they leaked the stuff to the street; it had been known about and was freely circulating in the Chem community for years before the military got hip to the stuff's existence. As I heard the story, STP was different in that it was actually developed *by* the military, as a weapon. LSD was just chanced upon by Albert Hofmann back in the 1930s in the course of experiments of an entirely different nature. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not just LSD on this one... STP with LSD S(tars) T(hat) P(lay) with L(aughing) S(am's) D(ice) Yup, and it shows. :-) STP was a short-lived hallucinogen that was supposedly developed by the military as a weapon. Its effects lasted for several days and were designed to incapacitate those who took it. The idea was to dump it into an enemy's water supply and then roll into town and take over while everyone was trippin'. Imagine the incredulity in the Army weapons division when hippies in the late 60s got ahold of the formula and started taking it for fun. Nothing like acid, really. I can't imagine anyone mixing them and thinking it would produce an enjoyable experience. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE LYRICS Lyrics - Jimi Hendrix Lyrics - THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Artist(Band):Jimi Hendrix THE STARS THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Lyrics Send Jimi Hendrix polyphonic ringtone to your cell phone STARS UP ABOVE THAT PLAY WITH LAUGHING SAM'S DICE Gave me this fear that it weren't the world for us THE ZODIAC sign was gleaming and came THROUGH THE SKIES IT WILL HAPPEN SOON, FOR YOU All right everybody let's get together now AND A WAY WE GO YEAH THANK YOU VERY MUCH, come in, thank you, thank you THANK YOU VERY MUCH, right now WE'D LIKE TO BRING TO YOU OUR ah one and only FREINDLY NEIGHBORHOOD EXPERIENCE Makers, Yeah All RIGHT NOW LISTEN yeah baby, thank you very much THE MILKY WAY EXPRESS IS LOADED, ALL ABOARD I PROMISE EACH AND EVERY ONE of YOU YOU WON'T BE BORED Now let's take time to keep everybody honest and straight WHAT I'M REALLY thinking ABOUT IS MY BRAND-NEW PAIR OF BUTTERFLY ROLLER SKATES Owww! Thank you, thank you And I watch them ride! Yeah Um, I meant to say that, there'll be no throwing cigarette butts out the window No throwing cigarette butts out the window, thank you thank you I hope all of you brought your tooth...brush Yeah NOW TO the RIGHT YOU'LL SEE SATURN Outta sight, really outta sight And IF YOU LOOK TO THE LEFT, YOU'LL SEE MARS Yeah, Yeah I HOPE all of you BROUGHT YOUR PARACHUTES WITH YOU HEY, Hey LOOK OUT! LOOK OUT FOR THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! DON'T OPEN THAT DOOR! OH, WELL THAT'S THE WAY IT GOES And now we're coming through the ah, milky way expressway Yeah With your corn flakes, stuff like that, Milky way, yeah HEY, EVERYTHING IS ALL RIGHT, and out of sight Owww! Uh no, no (laughs) If you look around you you will see a few minds being blown Exactly, exactly baby Yeah I hope your all enjoying your ride I am! Aww! Yeah, (I forgot to say that) Goodbye Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is Awakening something to be believed in? Does what you believe in have anything to do with becoming enlightened? Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will gain enlightenment, no matter what happens. Be one pointed on the Goal. That doesn't seem to have been the context, however. I was responding to this from you: That is why he now proclaims that liberation, enlightenment, Brahman, identifying with the Self, Awakening, etc. are not useful terms, labels or concepts. Every attempt to have him state what he *does* believe in just results in his challenging the perception of the person asking. (Your first sentence isn't what he actually *said*, but that's a different issue.) You appeared to be suggesting that he should hold beliefs about the *nature* of Awakening, not that he should believe such a thing was possible. snip OK akashanon, you, unlike all of the spiritual teachers in the world, have declared the very concept of Awakening as invalid; that there can be no legitimate transition between ignorance and Awakening, that all we can apparently hope for is some small, incremental experiences of expanding our awareness, maybe, and that no phase transition occurs between one state, ignorance, and liberation, enlightenment, Brahman, identifying with the Self, Awakening, etc. Boy, that isn't what I understand him to be saying. Si? Que? I don't recognize what you write above as being any of the points he made. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Spare egg writes: Of course, Barry has never denied his intent to laugh AT people. Rather he has embraced and defended it. Seems a not very difficult job of mind-reading to assume something, comment on that assumption, and get CONFIRMATION of that assumption and therefore to continue to assume that one's original assumption was correct. TOm T: Of course one needs to be aware of the true definition of Assume. As I remember the statement goes, When we use that word it makes an ass out of me. Thanks for another old forgotten joke. Ha Tom T Actually, its Ass out of U and me. AssUme. Interesting that you misremember it in a way that puts only one person down while the original was a put down on both parties.. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] This explains so much (was Re: Ego in Enlightenment)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2. Is having an ellipsis hurled at you an attack? No, but having a closed parenthesis followed by an asterisk followed by an open parenthesis is. You must read a great deal into such a thing... Do I have to? Up to you... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. Is that why, when someone on alt.m.t touted the Heifer Foundation, the first thing that occurred to you was whether, under the guise of giving farm animals to poor people, it was actually supplying the animals for live yagya sacrifices (citing Koreans in L.A. who used to rescue puppies from the pound and then eat them for dinner)? As I recall, you went on to point out that providing live animals for sacrifice was a thriving business in India, contrary to the image of a beloved and idealized India you claimed was held by TB TMers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: South-African Model Gang-Raped in Mumbai, India.. Dude, in the future, please keep this shit to yourself. Thanks. Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't noticed you jumping in and slamming 'scorpionland' material. Until this unpleasant backdoor racism stops then Jason is right to post material to balance it. ...'scorpionland..' this is because bbrigante's posts are such self defeating crap. I sometimes challenge them, but there again, it seems unkind to send all those electrons all over the world to propagate the self evident. Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tomandcindytraynoratfairfieldlis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Of course one needs to be aware of the true definition of Assume. As I remember the statement goes, When we use that word it makes an ass out of me. Thanks for another old forgotten joke. Ha Tom T Actually, its Ass out of U and me. AssUme. Interesting that you misremember it in a way that puts only one person down while the original was a put down on both parties.. Well, it could be a blazing Brahman thang -- it all being me in Unity, that sorta thing. Or maybe U just weren't important enough to bother with. Whatever. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. Is that why, when someone on alt.m.t touted the Heifer Foundation, the first thing that occurred to you was whether, under the guise of giving farm animals to poor people, it was actually supplying the animals for live yagya sacrifices (citing Koreans in L.A. who used to rescue puppies from the pound and then eat them for dinner)? As I recall, you went on to point out that providing live animals for sacrifice was a thriving business in India, contrary to the image of a beloved and idealized India you claimed was held by TB TMers. If you say so. I tend to operate in the Now and as such have trouble remembering that far back. I have noticed, however, that some people are so focused on holding a grudge that they tend to dwell almost entirely in the past, and can't get beyond things they perceived as an attack. *Their* focus in life is all wrapped up in having been attacked, and how important that was to them, and how important they believe that makes them. With that kind of focus, what do you think they will become? :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. Is that why, when someone on alt.m.t touted the Heifer Foundation, the first thing that occurred to you was whether, under the guise of giving farm animals to poor people, it was actually supplying the animals for live yagya sacrifices (citing Koreans in L.A. who used to rescue puppies from the pound and then eat them for dinner)? As I recall, you went on to point out that providing live animals for sacrifice was a thriving business in India, contrary to the image of a beloved and idealized India you claimed was held by TB TMers. If you say so. I tend to operate in the Now and as such have trouble remembering that far back. I have noticed, however, that some people are so focused on holding a grudge that they tend to dwell almost entirely in the past, and can't get beyond things they perceived as an attack. *Their* focus in life is all wrapped up in having been attacked, and how important that was to them, and how important they believe that makes them. Yeah, except that the focus here is your hypocrisy in instructing Jason on the importance to one's spiritual development of always focusing on what is productive and uplifting, as if that were what you believed and how you behaved. Obviously you'd like to try to obscure that focus, but unfortunately the only way you know to accomplish it is by shifting the focus to what you call the dark stuff of the person pointing out the hypocrisy-- which is what you just told Jason is to be avoided, compounding the original hypocrisy. I'm just exposing your dark stuff to the light, you see. And I suggest that operating in the Now is not a sign of your great spiritual development but rather a means of avoiding accountability for your behavior. With that kind of focus, what do you think they will become? :-) :-) :-) If we were to go over your posts here (not to mention on alt.m.t), what percentage do you think we would find focusing on dark stuff as opposed to what is productive and uplifting? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
Anyone notice a skunk smell in the air? Someone must be feeling attacked again. :-) :-) :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. Is that why, when someone on alt.m.t touted the Heifer Foundation, the first thing that occurred to you was whether, under the guise of giving farm animals to poor people, it was actually supplying the animals for live yagya sacrifices (citing Koreans in L.A. who used to rescue puppies from the pound and then eat them for dinner)? As I recall, you went on to point out that providing live animals for sacrifice was a thriving business in India, contrary to the image of a beloved and idealized India you claimed was held by TB TMers. Now, THIS information I find of interest. Please, somebody educate me: Are sacrifices of animals -- live or otherwise -- perscribed to be included in yagyas in the Vedas? Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) The question that occurs to me is, What would happen if you sacrificed a skunk to the Vedic gods? Would they feel pleased at the sacrifice and thus propiated? Or might they find the whole scene hilarious and -- Vishnu help us -- *laugh* at it? And if they *did* laugh, should the organizers of the skunk yagya feel attacked? My head hurts from pondering all this heavy Vedic stuff. I'm going to watch Battlestar Galactica... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) And I suppose your view is that we are all so dimwitted that we cannot infer various dymanics going on for all parties and that we need you to enlighten us -- in the role of teacher that you take on so reluctantly. And I suppose that you view us as alzhiemeristic, in that you repeat your same observations to us everyday lest we forget your view. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone notice a skunk smell in the air? Someone must be feeling attacked again. :-) :-) :-) Actually, Barry's feeling threatened by challenge again, so he has to reduce the challenger to the status of an animal in his mind. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, In case you don't know, a tenet of many if not all spiritual traditions is, What you focus on you become. Is that why, when someone on alt.m.t touted the Heifer Foundation, the first thing that occurred to you was whether, under the guise of giving farm animals to poor people, it was actually supplying the animals for live yagya sacrifices (citing Koreans in L.A. who used to rescue puppies from the pound and then eat them for dinner)? As I recall, you went on to point out that providing live animals for sacrifice was a thriving business in India, contrary to the image of a beloved and idealized India you claimed was held by TB TMers. Now, THIS information I find of interest. Please, somebody educate me: Are sacrifices of animals -- live or otherwise -- perscribed to be included in yagyas in the Vedas? Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. Actually, Barry could have found this out for himself by clicking on the URLs that were provided by the folks posting about the foundation. But he saw an opportunity to focus on the dark side of India and of Koreans. Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. Barry has all *kinds* of ways to avoid taking responsibility for what he says and does. Claiming to operate in the Now is one of them; another is claiming the person who calls attention to what he's said is feeling attacked. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) And still another, as I just noted, is reducing the person who has called him to account to the status of an animal in his mind. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. (I wish they didn't spend *quite* so much on their promotional materials, however. They're beautiful, but they must be pretty expensive to produce.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. (I wish they didn't spend *quite* so much on their promotional materials, however. They're beautiful, but they must be pretty expensive to produce.) Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
on 1/14/06 12:07 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. That's what we got! I wonder if was the same buffalo, and what part we each got. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
on 1/14/06 12:10 PM, a_non_moose_ff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia We used to have the milk in India. Too strong tasting for my liking, but I'll bet the cheese is good. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 12:07 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. That's what we got! I wonder if was the same buffalo, and what part we each got. If one of you got the reproductive parts, did you give the gift that keeps giving? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia No, but I was wondering whether water buffalo produced milk that could be used for human food, in addition to pulling plows, so that answers my question. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
I have/had an experience for a few months and on and off since, that left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi about it on a coufse back in 1980. My experience was one in which while I was standing there talking to someone I experienced that they were separate from Being. The way I described it to Maharishi was, it was as if when I looked at another person I experienced that they were witnessing. Maharishi told me that this was growing Unity consciousness. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The first is that I am *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, I have had my own experiences of enlightenment But apparently not the There is no me-versus-them, we-are-all one-experience... Actually, even though it's being asked by the Judybot, I'll deal with this one. :-) That is correct. I have had quite a few experiences that map to what TMers might call 'CC.' I have had other experiences that don't map to anything that has *ever* been mentioned in a TM context, but were pretty neat. But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be descried as there is no me-vs-them, we are all one. I suspect that this description has almost nothing to do with real experiences of the direct perception of Unity. In other words, what I think Judy is describing is a guess, *from the point of view of someone who hasn't even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like. Actually not. Not only is it a frequently reported experience on this forum (odd that you've somehow managed to miss it) and elsewhere, but I've had it myself on occasion. I don't know whether it's a direct perception of Unity, but then I didn't claim it was. It *is* an experience of perceiving the Self in others. Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak at its worst, so admit with some *pride* to never having experienced anything like it. Actually, I'm pretty sure that with a bit of searching, I could find posts of yours in which you've said something very much like this. Carry on... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia No, but I was wondering whether water buffalo produced milk that could be used for human food, in addition to pulling plows, so that answers my question. You just have the thought and the answer comes. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 12:07 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. That's what we got! I wonder if was the same buffalo, and what part we each got. If one of you got the reproductive parts, did you give the gift that keeps giving? :-) Actually, one feature of the program is that recipients are asked to give one or more of the offspring of the animals they receive to another family, which in turn gives offspring to another family, and so on. Recipients are also trained in how to take care of the animals. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia No, but I was wondering whether water buffalo produced milk that could be used for human food, in addition to pulling plows, so that answers my question. And of course there are the water buffalo races. :) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In case you don't know, There was a string of brutal rapes in india, which included the high profile case of a Swiss diplomat raped in Delhi, http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/3193820.stm President's elite body guards raping a university student, a cop raping a teenage girl, etc etc. Therefore India's image has taken a severe beating. I noticed some people having illusions about India which is why i posted the news item. Jim Flanegin thinks it's shit not worth reading. Not taking note of reality might put you in fool's paradise. Hey Jason, I grew up in SE Asia- 17 years. So I know that any other people in the world are pretty much all the same as us here- some good and some bad. I would've just preferred that you stated what you thought, that others had fairy tales in their minds about India, and mentioned an contrast to that. To post something so brutal with its details, as you did, wasn't imo necessary in order for you to get your point across. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Premanand Paul Mason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I haven't noticed you jumping in and slamming 'scorpionland' material. Until this unpleasant backdoor racism stops then Jason is right to post material to balance it. Haven't read any of scorpionland material, so no comment on it. Not backdoor racism, just selective attention. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: South-African Model Gang-Raped in Mumbai, India Dude, in the future, please keep this shit to yourself. Thanks. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Is Awakening something to be believed in? Does what you believe in have anything to do with becoming enlightened? Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will gain enlightenment, no matter what happens. Be one pointed on the Goal. Yup. Either that or don't care about it at all, and just live your life as it seems best to you, never giving even a thought to enlightenment. Or something in between. The thing is, I've seen all three approaches work. I suspect the bottom line is that there are no rules, and no single approach that works best for everyone. Absolutely right. Its difficult to put one pointedness into words. Some would call it a faint intention that is everpresent, but never entertained on a surface level. Or a near silent momentum growing towards manifestation. Or a feeling in the heart. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia No, but I was wondering whether water buffalo produced milk that could be used for human food, in addition to pulling plows, so that answers my question. And of course there are the water buffalo races. :) http://www.trekearth.com/gallery/Asia/photo173038.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I know, it's your focus that determines your reality. But the focus should be the right kind of focus. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:'Nuff said. You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out. Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have/had an experience for a few months and on and off since, that left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi about it on a coufse back in 1980. My experience was one in which while I was standing there talking to someone I experienced that they were separate from Being. The way I described it to Maharishi was, it was as if when I looked at another person I experienced that they were witnessing. Maharishi told me that this was growing Unity consciousness. Can you detail your experience some more? I don't quite understand it. You experienced others as separate from Being meaning they were outside of or distinct from Self, as if other? Its an experience of seeing (sensing /knowing) Being / Silence is at the core of anyone and everyone. Its seeing them glide on silence. (I think is what anonff is referring to). What do you mean by, ...that they were witnessing? Its an experience of seeing that the Silence at the core of others is separate from their body, mind, speech and all. It facilitates / invites an appreciation, even a celebration of the other regardless of their outer characteristics. The other may not yet sse or experience this within themselves. If I'm understanding your experience correctly, it sounds more like growing CC than UC, but I'll wait for your response ! Its seeing silence / Being outside ones own sphere. In others. Not yet in stars and water and the earth. But in some things. Its a beginning. CC is distinct from this, it is knowing silence within, not outside in other things. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip Outside of meditation, we have the same choice. We could choose to focus on the dark stuff, like so many around us. But if you really *look* at the lives of so many around us and what they have become as a result of their focus on the dark stuff, is that what *you* want to become? If so, focus on the dark stuff. If not, there is another possibility. You can be aware of the dark stuff, and when it is possible do whatever you can to eliminate it by exposing it to light. But then the rest of the time, you can focus on something that is a tad more uplifting. Focus on laughter in a world of tears and it's the laughter you become, not the sadness. Focus on light in the midst of darkness, and you become light. As so often happens here on FFL, I was thinking about this a lot lately. Thanks for expressing it so well! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
Peter The experiece was very confusing to have and moreso to describe. If I were the one doing the witnessing, I would experience myself as separate from Being. This was not that. I would be, say, standing and talking to someone, see them, see their mouth moving, hear the words but they seemed puppetlike and along with that I was very aware of them as separate from Beimg and Being seemed pervasive. That's as good as I can describe it. ]. witnessing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- anonyff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have/had an experience for a few months and on and off since, that left me baffled and I spoke directly to Maharishi about it on a coufse back in 1980. My experience was one in which while I was standing there talking to someone I experienced that they were separate from Being. The way I described it to Maharishi was, it was as if when I looked at another person I experienced that they were witnessing. Maharishi told me that this was growing Unity consciousness. Can you detail your experience some more? I don't quite understand it. You experienced others as separate from Being meaning they were outside of or distinct from Self, as if other? What do you mean by, ...that they were witnessing? If I'm understanding your experience correctly, it sounds more like growing CC than UC, but I'll wait for your response ! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip The first is that I am *immensely* grateful that, unlike them, I have had my own experiences of enlightenment But apparently not the There is no me-versus-them, we-are-all one-experience... Actually, even though it's being asked by the Judybot, I'll deal with this one. :-) That is correct. I have had quite a few experiences that map to what TMers might call 'CC.' I have had other experiences that don't map to anything that has *ever* been mentioned in a TM context, but were pretty neat. But as it turns out I have neither had, nor have I ever sought, any experience that could in any way be descried as there is no me-vs-them, we are all one. I suspect that this description has almost nothing to do with real experiences of the direct perception of Unity. In other words, what I think Judy is describing is a guess, *from the point of view of someone who hasn't even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be like. Actually not. Not only is it a frequently reported experience on this forum (odd that you've somehow managed to miss it) and elsewhere, but I've had it myself on occasion. I don't know whether it's a direct perception of Unity, but then I didn't claim it was. It *is* an experience of perceiving the Self in others. Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak at its worst, so admit with some *pride* to never having experienced anything like it. Actually, I'm pretty sure that with a bit of searching, I could find posts of yours in which you've said something very much like this. Carry on... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, a_non_moose_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. (I wish they didn't spend *quite* so much on their promotional materials, however. They're beautiful, but they must be pretty expensive to produce.) Ever have water buffalo cheese? Its quite good. Its somewhat common in parts of SE and central Asia Actually, FRESH water buffalo mozzarella from Italy is supposed to be the best mossarella made (I've had it with fresh mozzarella from cows)...served with slices of heirloom tomatoes, basil and a sprinkling of olive oil and pepperMmmm. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 12:07 PM, authfriend at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. That's what we got! I wonder if was the same buffalo, and what part we each got. I prefer the shank, myself. Sometimes the short rib. Great restaurant in Scottsdale serves short rib with a cherry/brandy reduction sauceM. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. Huh? You got your sister a share of a water buffalo that was sacrifed to the gods in a yagya? So, if you bought her only 1/10th of the buffalo, does she only get 1/10th of the benefit of the yagya when it is sacrificed? ...and who pays the carting fees for the burnt carcass? Are you responsible for the same portion of the carting fees? (I wish they didn't spend *quite* so much on their promotional materials, however. They're beautiful, but they must be pretty expensive to produce.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I think Barry used to read Marvel comics as a kid. The 'Nuff said phrase was a favourite of Stan Lee in Fantastic Four which he had Ben Grimm (The Thing) say alot. Am I anywhere near the mark, Barry? I know, it's your focus that determines your reality. But the focus should be the right kind of focus. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Nuff said. You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out. - Yahoo! Photos Ring in the New Year with Photo Calendars. Add photos, events, holidays, whatever. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
Hey Shemp, I know from past interactions that you appreciate some of the artworks of a fellow I know. I saw a *very* rare piece of his tonight that I thought you would dig hearing about. The artist in question is known for the precision of his line drawing. He's reknowned for his comics, but his drawing has been compared to some of the olde masters, and with reason. So anyway, what I came across tonight was a leftover from the early days of him teaching himself how to draw. Early on, he became fascinated with Japanese ink painting, and the Zen of it. It's a very Now artform, because the paper that the artist paints on is so fragile that the entire painting has to be done in one long brushstroke. If you pause or lift the brush from the paper, you tear it and the whole piece goes in the trashbin. Anyway, the piece I found that I know you would just love is from a period in which this artist was trying to draw like this, in one long stroke, never lifting his pen from the paper until the work was finished. He still has a few of the drawings from that period, but this piece of art is not even pen on paper. It's done on an Etch-a-sketch. And it's magnificent. I really loved it, not only because the drawing is lovely, but because it's so incredibly fragile. It could never be transported anywhere, because if you tried to move it very far, whatever the mechanism is inside an Etch-a-sketch machine that erases the current painting and creates a blank canvas for the next painting would get activated during the move. The whole thing reminded me of Tibetan sand mandalas. They're a very ephemeral artform as well. Six or seven monks work for six or seven months to create this perfect mandala, painted in colored sand. And then at the end of the process, because the work of art really can't be preserved and was never intended to be preserved in the first place, the monks just sweep all the sand into a sack, offer it to the gods, and start on the next mandala. This Etch-a-sketch painting is a lot like that. It has managed to survive all this time, but sooner or later, it's going to just go away. One of the cats is going to knock it over, or a maid dusting that shelf is going to knock it over, and it'll be history. At that point, the drawing will exist only in the mind of the artist who created it and the people who were fortunate enough to see it before it went away. I feel fortunate to be one of the latter. I'm just passing this story along because I have the weird intuition that you'd appreciate it. Unc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I know, it's your focus that determines your reality. But the focus should be the right kind of focus. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Nuff said. You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out. Speaking of focus, and the dark side of things, you get ten extra brownie points if you can identify the movie that You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out came from. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I think Barry used to read Marvel comics as a kid. The 'Nuff said phrase was a favourite of Stan Lee in Fantastic Four which he had Ben Grimm (The Thing) say alot. Am I anywhere near the mark, Barry? Subconsciously, possibly. Consciously, it's just a phrase I picked up during the times I lived in New York. Nu Yawkas got some real cool slang. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Shemp, I know from past interactions that you appreciate some of the artworks of a fellow I know. I saw a *very* rare piece of his tonight that I thought you would dig hearing about. The artist in question is known for the precision of his line drawing. He's reknowned for his comics, but his drawing has been compared to some of the olde masters, and with reason. So anyway, what I came across tonight was a leftover from the early days of him teaching himself how to draw. Early on, he became fascinated with Japanese ink painting, and the Zen of it. It's a very Now artform, because the paper that the artist paints on is so fragile that the entire painting has to be done in one long brushstroke. If you pause or lift the brush from the paper, you tear it and the whole piece goes in the trashbin. Anyway, the piece I found that I know you would just love is from a period in which this artist was trying to draw like this, in one long stroke, never lifting his pen from the paper until the work was finished. He still has a few of the drawings from that period, but this piece of art is not even pen on paper. It's done on an Etch-a-sketch. And it's magnificent. I really loved it, not only because the drawing is lovely, but because it's so incredibly fragile. It could never be transported anywhere, because if you tried to move it very far, whatever the mechanism is inside an Etch-a-sketch machine that erases the current painting and creates a blank canvas for the next painting would get activated during the move. The whole thing reminded me of Tibetan sand mandalas. They're a very ephemeral artform as well. Six or seven monks work for six or seven months to create this perfect mandala, painted in colored sand. And then at the end of the process, because the work of art really can't be preserved and was never intended to be preserved in the first place, the monks just sweep all the sand into a sack, offer it to the gods, and start on the next mandala. This Etch-a-sketch painting is a lot like that. It has managed to survive all this time, but sooner or later, it's going to just go away. One of the cats is going to knock it over, or a maid dusting that shelf is going to knock it over, and it'll be history. At that point, the drawing will exist only in the mind of the artist who created it and the people who were fortunate enough to see it before it went away. I feel fortunate to be one of the latter. I'm just passing this story along because I have the weird intuition that you'd appreciate it. Unc So, um... no one thought to take a photo of it? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I know, it's your focus that determines your reality. But the focus should be the right kind of focus. TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 'Nuff said. You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out. Speaking of focus, and the dark side of things, you get ten extra brownie points if you can identify the movie that You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out came from. :-) Is finding the answer on Google cheating? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, um... no one thought to take a photo of it? That would be cheating. Sorta like recording a really good jazz session and thinking you had actually captured it. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Speaking of focus, and the dark side of things, you get ten extra brownie points if you can identify the movie that You're a smart kid...you'll figure it out came from. :-) Is finding the answer on Google cheating? Cheating is permitted in this case because IMO it's a really interesting movie, all about aversion and having to deal with your aversions before you can get past them. Very Buddhist flick, for a scary movie. :-) When it first came out, a reviewer in Los Angeles really lit into it. He wrote a *scathing* review of the film, ranting up one side of the righteously offended wall and down the other. The critic said that the film was just the latest example of the blood and gore horror flicks, and then he went on to disparage the whole genre. The thing is, there was *no* blood and gore on the screen during the movie (or almost none). The screenwriter and the director just made you see it in your head. This supposedly-hip film critic was so unaware of his own perceptions and how they worked that he really came away from the film convinced that he'd seen it onscreen, when he hadn't. Fascinating phenomenon, in my opinion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, um... no one thought to take a photo of it? That would be cheating. Sorta like recording a really good jazz session and thinking you had actually captured it. Lotta cheating going on in the world: http://tinyurl.com/bg9no But, hey, it *is* kaliyuga, after all. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, um... no one thought to take a photo of it? That would be cheating. Sorta like recording a really good jazz session and thinking you had actually captured it. Lotta cheating going on in the world: http://tinyurl.com/bg9no But, hey, it *is* kaliyuga, after all. Pussies. :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- So, you have that experience of witnessing. Good, and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of suffering in the world? If not, why not? Your experience, if that word can be used (since it's happening to a relative body) leaves one in the dark as to so what?...what are the consequences? wrote: snip Is Awakening something to be believed in? Does what you believe in have anything to do with becoming enlightened? Yes, you must absolutely believe in the fact that you can and will gain enlightenment, no matter what happens. Be one pointed on the Goal. Yup. Either that or don't care about it at all, and just live your life as it seems best to you, never giving even a thought to enlightenment. Or something in between. The thing is, I've seen all three approaches work. I suspect the bottom line is that there are no rules, and no single approach that works best for everyone. Absolutely right. Its difficult to put one pointedness into words. Some would call it a faint intention that is everpresent, but never entertained on a surface level. Or a near silent momentum growing towards manifestation. Or a feeling in the heart. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- So, you have that experience of witnessing. Good, and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of suffering in the world? jumping in uninvited Is total eradication of suffering in the world the only worthy goal to have while living in that world? I mean, it's noble and all that, and people have been claiming to be pursuing it for eons. But many of those same people have been responsible for much of the suffering this planet has seen. Might it not be more socially responsible to set one's sights a little lower, like ferinstance, Be as happy as I can be and treat the people I run into along the Way as well as I am able to treat them and influence the suffering of the world that way? :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Shemp, I know from past interactions that you appreciate some of the artworks of a fellow I know. I saw a *very* rare piece of his tonight that I thought you would dig hearing about. The artist in question is known for the precision of his line drawing. He's reknowned for his comics, but his drawing has been compared to some of the olde masters, and with reason. So anyway, what I came across tonight was a leftover from the early days of him teaching himself how to draw. Early on, he became fascinated with Japanese ink painting, and the Zen of it. It's a very Now artform, because the paper that the artist paints on is so fragile that the entire painting has to be done in one long brushstroke. If you pause or lift the brush from the paper, you tear it and the whole piece goes in the trashbin. Anyway, the piece I found that I know you would just love is from a period in which this artist was trying to draw like this, in one long stroke, never lifting his pen from the paper until the work was finished. He still has a few of the drawings from that period, but this piece of art is not even pen on paper. It's done on an Etch-a-sketch. And it's magnificent. I really loved it, not only because the drawing is lovely, but because it's so incredibly fragile. It could never be transported anywhere, because if you tried to move it very far, whatever the mechanism is inside an Etch-a-sketch machine that erases the current painting and creates a blank canvas for the next painting would get activated during the move. The whole thing reminded me of Tibetan sand mandalas. They're a very ephemeral artform as well. Six or seven monks work for six or seven months to create this perfect mandala, painted in colored sand. And then at the end of the process, because the work of art really can't be preserved and was never intended to be preserved in the first place, the monks just sweep all the sand into a sack, offer it to the gods, and start on the next mandala. This Etch-a-sketch painting is a lot like that. It has managed to survive all this time, but sooner or later, it's going to just go away. One of the cats is going to knock it over, or a maid dusting that shelf is going to knock it over, and it'll be history. At that point, the drawing will exist only in the mind of the artist who created it and the people who were fortunate enough to see it before it went away. I feel fortunate to be one of the latter. I'm just passing this story along because I have the weird intuition that you'd appreciate it. Unc I saw a 20/20 (or Dateline) piece on etch-a-sketch art once...apparently, if you know how to do it, you can somehow turn it over (VERY gently, of course!) remove the bottom, and then somehow freeze (not in terms of temperature) the existing image so that it can be freely moved... But, yes, I've seen some really wonderful etch-a-sketch drawings and they are a sight to behold! Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey, Who the hell is Nuff.?? I think Barry used to read Marvel comics as a kid. The 'Nuff said phrase was a favourite of Stan Lee in Fantastic Four which he had Ben Grimm (The Thing) say alot. Am I anywhere near the mark, Barry? Subconsciously, possibly. Consciously, it's just a phrase I picked up during the times I lived in New York. Nu Yawkas got some real cool slang. Of course, Ben Grimm was a street-wise New Yorker, so there you go. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Oeuvre d'art pour Shemp
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Shemp, I know from past interactions that you appreciate some of the artworks of a fellow I know. I saw a *very* rare piece of his tonight that I thought you would dig hearing about. The artist in question is known for the precision of his line drawing. He's reknowned for his comics, but his drawing has been compared to some of the olde masters, and with reason. So anyway, what I came across tonight was a leftover from the early days of him teaching himself how to draw. Early on, he became fascinated with Japanese ink painting, and the Zen of it. It's a very Now artform, because the paper that the artist paints on is so fragile that the entire painting has to be done in one long brushstroke. If you pause or lift the brush from the paper, you tear it and the whole piece goes in the trashbin. Anyway, the piece I found that I know you would just love is from a period in which this artist was trying to draw like this, in one long stroke, never lifting his pen from the paper until the work was finished. He still has a few of the drawings from that period, but this piece of art is not even pen on paper. It's done on an Etch-a-sketch. And it's magnificent. I really loved it, not only because the drawing is lovely, but because it's so incredibly fragile. It could never be transported anywhere, because if you tried to move it very far, whatever the mechanism is inside an Etch-a-sketch machine that erases the current painting and creates a blank canvas for the next painting would get activated during the move. The whole thing reminded me of Tibetan sand mandalas. They're a very ephemeral artform as well. Six or seven monks work for six or seven months to create this perfect mandala, painted in colored sand. And then at the end of the process, because the work of art really can't be preserved and was never intended to be preserved in the first place, the monks just sweep all the sand into a sack, offer it to the gods, and start on the next mandala. I saw the sand mandala that was part of a Kalachakra ritual performed by HHDL in Sarnath. Just before it was destroyed. Symbolizing the impermanance of relative life. Along with 500,000-1 mil pilgrims from Nepal and Tibet. It was special. And amazing. The devotion of some lay participants still burns in my memory. For example, a teen girl taking darshan and blessing for her beads from each of the 1000 buddha statues in the Sarnarth Museum. While some jaded readers may see this as rituals tied to tired dogma, if you saw the devotion on her face, you would be touched. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) So, you're aware that at least one person feels bad when she's laughed at, and yet you persist in doing things to make this person feel bad. Why? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) So, you're aware that at least one person feels bad when she's laughed at, and yet you persist in doing things to make this person feel bad. Why? The enlightenment he is referring to is his attainment of Skunk Consciousness ? (Seeing Skunks in all Beings. 24/7 awareness of the skunkiness within him?) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
Sounds like the perfect duality of CC. There is
Self/nothingness/consciousness and then everything
else which has this flat or false quality to it. As
if it isn't real at all. I used to call it the
cardboard world. No substance to it. It all hung like
a tiny basket within That.
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Peter
The experiece was very confusing to have and moreso
to describe. If I
were the one doing the witnessing, I would
experience myself as
separate from Being. This was not that. I would be,
say, standing and
talking to someone, see them, see their mouth
moving, hear the words
but they seemed puppetlike and along with that I was
very aware of
them as separate from Beimg and Being seemed
pervasive.
That's as good as I can describe it.
]. witnessing --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,
Peter
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I have/had an experience for a few months and on
and
off since, that
left me baffled and I spoke directly to
Maharishi
about it on a coufse
back in 1980. My experience was one in which
while I
was standing
there talking to someone I experienced that they
were separate from
Being. The way I described it to Maharishi was,
it
was as if when I
looked at another person I experienced that they
were witnessing.
Maharishi told me that this was growing Unity
consciousness.
Can you detail your experience some more? I don't
quite understand it. You experienced others as
separate from Being meaning they were outside of
or
distinct from Self, as if other? What do you
mean
by, ...that they were witnessing?
If I'm understanding your experience correctly, it
sounds more like growing CC than UC, but I'll wait
for
your response !
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snip
The first is that I am
*immensely* grateful that, unlike them,
I
have had my own
experiences of enlightenment
But apparently not the There is no
me-versus-them,
we-are-all one-experience...
Actually, even though it's being asked by
the
Judybot,
I'll deal with this one. :-)
That is correct. I have had quite a few
experiences
that map to what TMers might call 'CC.' I
have
had
other experiences that don't map to anything
that has
*ever* been mentioned in a TM context, but
were
pretty
neat. But as it turns out I have neither
had,
nor have
I ever sought, any experience that could in
any
way be
descried as there is no me-vs-them, we are
all
one.
I suspect that this description has almost
nothing to
do with real experiences of the direct
perception of Unity.
In other words, what I think Judy is
describing
is a
guess, *from the point of view of someone
who
hasn't
even experienced CC*, of what Unity might be
like.
Actually not. Not only is it a frequently
reported
experience on this forum (odd that you've
somehow
managed to miss it) and elsewhere, but I've
had it
myself on occasion. I don't know whether it's
a
direct perception of Unity, but then I
didn't
claim
it was. It *is* an experience of perceiving
the
Self
in others.
Me, I consider her description NewAgeSpeak
at
its
worst, so admit with some *pride* to never
having
experienced anything like it.
Actually, I'm pretty sure that with a bit of
searching, I could find posts of yours in
which
you've said something very much like this.
Carry on... :-)
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 1/14/06 11:12 AM, TurquoiseB at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually, not only are live animal sacrifices prescribed in the Vedas, they are still common in modern-day India. As it turned out, this service (the Heifer Foundation) seems to be completely benevolent, and has nothing whatsoever to do with them. I was merely curious as to whether it did. Vaj set me straight; it's an organization that arranges gifts of live animals to help people living in poverty become self sufficient. Sounds like a good deal to me. My sister donated to this as her Christmas present to us. I read their literature and got a good feeling about the whole thing. It's a terrific organization, I think. I got my sister a share of a water buffalo for Christmas. Huh? You got your sister a share of a water buffalo that was sacrifed to the gods in a yagya? No, Shemp. Read it again. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Laughing With, At and At/With
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, qntmpkt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- So, you have that experience of witnessing. Good, and may I ask, has this led to a total eradication of suffering in the world? jumping in uninvited Is total eradication of suffering in the world the only worthy goal to have while living in that world? I mean, it's noble and all that, and people have been claiming to be pursuing it for eons. But many of those same people have been responsible for much of the suffering this planet has seen. Might it not be more socially responsible to set one's sights a little lower, like ferinstance, Be as happy as I can be and treat the people I run into along the Way as well as I am able to treat them and influence the suffering of the world that way? :-) Do you treat people as well as you are able to treat them, Barry? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Again India does it
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] [...] Judy's just smarting from the devastating effects of being laughed at, and is feeling attacked again, that's all. And as usual when she feels she has been attacked, she's trying to stink up the place. Who knew that laughter could have such an effect? :-) So, you're aware that at least one person feels bad when she's laughed at Mistaken assumption. He isn't aware of it, he fantasizes that it's the case. , and yet you persist in doing things to make this person feel bad. Why? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~-- Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~- To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
