[FairfieldLife] BG VII 4
bhuumir aapo 'nalo vaayuH
khaM mano buddhir eva ca
ahaMkaara itiiyaM me
bhinnaa prakRtir aSTadhaa
The mind, intellect, ego, ether, air, fire, water, and earth are
the eightfold transformation of My Prakriti. (See also 13.05)
(7.04)
bhuumiH -- earth
aapaH -- water
analaH -- fire
vaayuH -- air
kham -- ether
manaH -- mind
buddhiH -- intellect
(eva -- indeed?)
ca -- and
ahaMkaara -- ego
(iti -- thus)
iyam -- this (prakRtiH)
me -- My
bhinnaa (feminine form of):
bhinna mfn. split , broken , shattered , pierced , destroyed RV. &c.
&c. ; leaky (as a ship) MBh. ; broken through , transgressed ,
violated Mn. MBh. &c. ; divided into parts , anything less than a
whole Ya1jn5. Ka1v. &c. ; opened , expanded , blown MBh. Ka1v. &c. ;
detached , disjoined , loosened ib. ; interrupted , disturbed
Bhartr2. ; disclosed , betrayed R. ; disunited , set at variance
MBh. ; seduced , bribed Ka1m. Hit. ; changed , altered Ya1jn5.
Sus3r. ; distinct , different from or other than (abl. or comp.)
Gr2S3rS. Ka1v. &c. ; deviating , abnormal , irregular Ka1v. ; mixed
or mingled with (instr. or comp.) ib. ; cleaving to (loc. or comp.)
ib. ; = %{bhinna-karaTa} MBh. i , 7006 ; m. (in arithm.) a fraction ,
Lila1v. ; (%{A}) f. Sanseviera Roxburghiana L. ; n. a fragment ,
bit , portion W. ; a wound from a pointed weapon , a stab Sus3r. ; a
partic. mode of fighting Hariv.
prakRtiH -- prakriti
aSTadhaa -- eightfold
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[FairfieldLife] 'The Agony of War on Children'
Fri Mar 31, 12:08 PM ET BAGHDAD (AFP) - For 12-year-old Iraqi Sarah al-Jamal, the world as she knew it ended the day her father was shot dead in front of her eyes. Once bright, talkative and a top student, Sarah is now one of the growing number of Iraq children traumatized by the conflict and who can no longer deal with the daily reality of life in Iraq's battered capital. "She suffers from constant nervous breakdowns and starts screaming hysterically when she sees a policeman or a soldier," said Hussein Ali Mohsen, the director Al-Rajaa Institute for Special Needs. "Her mental status is no longer stable and she cannot concentrate on her studies. "The death of her father in front of her eyes has changed the girl into another person." Mohsen's school was founded back in 1968 and once just welcomed developmentally challenged children, mostly with Down's Syndrome, but since April 2003, the facility has opened its doors to children scarred by Baghdad's harsh post-war realities. "We have been in a state of war for the past three years and the cases of children suffering from nervous breakdowns are increasing," Mohsen said. So far, the school has five students like Sarah, while the rest of the 70 pupils have Down Syndrome. "There are definitely many more cases out there, but because of tradition and society most of the families prefer to keep them indoors. We never know about them until they approach us," added Mohsen. The war is hard on all of the institute's children. The simple passage of helicopters criss-crossing Baghdad's skies can spread panic and sow fear among the pupils. "With every bomb that explodes and every helicopter flying over head, we have chaos in the school," Mohsen said. When this happens, the school's dedicated corps of 10 teachers swing into action and try to distract the children from their fears with toys or leading them in a familiar song or dance. Sometimes, it's just a matter of reading them a story. "We do everything for these children," said teacher Hayat al-Khafaji. "We sacrifice our time and now we risk our lives to teach them." For salaries ranging from 70 dollars to 330 dollars (60 to 275 euros) a month, the teachers navigate their way daily through the city's dangerous streets to teach the children. The school looks to provide their students with the basic skills they need to survive in life, including reading and writing, as well as lessons on how to interact with others. "The children at the institute learn how to use computers and we try to help them with what materials we have," said Khafaji. Next to her a young girl with Down Syndrome sits in front of a computer screen featuring simple, colorful programs. When the Down Syndrome students reach the age of 17, they are placed at "rehabilitation" schools established years ago by the labor ministry to teach them trades so that they can make a living. "Girls continue learning how to use computers or sewing, while boys learn trades such as carpentry or mechanics. It's all so that they can earn money when they become adults," Khafafi added. For Umm Abdallah, however, the institute's modest means are not enough for her child traumatized by the war and she laments their lack of resources and unimaginative teaching methods. "The institute doesn't even have a swing in its garden for the children to play on," she said. "No one cares anymore and the way they teach the children is outdated!" For her, the daily crises of life only seem to be getting worse. "No one escapes from the agony of this war. Even these children who do not understand what is happening are suffering," she said. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity > so now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest > editorial. "Got all the publicity?" I was partly joking about the attempt to hijack FFL and turn it into the cesspool that you guys turned a.m.t. into, but I guess maybe I was onto something. Do you *really* think in terms of "getting all the publicity" when posting here? Is *that* why you post so much? Sad, if so. I was away all weekend, and returned to find Fairfield Life having been turned into an intellectual sewer. I was merely commenting on who managed to do that, and what their inner motives might have been *for* doing it. I didn't notice that this weekend you were one of the three people I was speaking about who managed to make the entire newsgroup all about them and their insecurities. But judging by the defensive way you jumped right in here and couldn't wait to attack me, maybe you wish you had been. > -- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread > > > > boring and ended! > > > > > > Either that or it should be retitled, > > > "How three people with out of control egos > > > hijacked a spiritual group and brought it > > > down to the level of infantile egobabble." > > > > I think there is a lesson to be learned from > > the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL > > this weekend. > > > > A few people, with different political leanings > > but with one thing in common, managed to side- > > track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup > > and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon- > > stration of, "It's all about US...*WE* are what's > > important here!" > > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > spiritual experience, and all three have a history of > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > > > One might suggest that the people who have no exper- > > iences with higher states of consciousness of their > > own to talk about, and who have a history of being > > agressive and skeptical when others talk about them, > > might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of > > Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and > > *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on "I am right, you > > are wrong," "I have no hidden agenda but you have one," > > and "I'm smart and you're not." In other words, the > > mundane level at which *they* live and operate. > > > > Voila. A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets > > talked about is mundane, everyday political bull- > > shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment > > any more. > > > > Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization > > of Fairfield Life. > > > > :-) :-) :-) > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: BG VII 4
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> bhuumir aapo 'nalo vaayuH
> khaM mano buddhir eva ca
> ahaMkaara itiiyaM me
> bhinnaa prakRtir aSTadhaa
>
> The mind, intellect, ego, ether, air, fire, water, and earth are
> the eightfold transformation of My Prakriti. (See also 13.05)
> (7.04)
>
> bhuumiH -- earth
> aapaH -- water
> analaH -- fire
> vaayuH -- air
> kham -- ether
> manaH -- mind
> buddhiH -- intellect
> (eva -- indeed?)
> ca -- and
> ahaMkaara -- ego
> (iti -- thus)
> iyam -- this (prakRtiH)
> me -- My
> bhinnaa (feminine form of):
>
> bhinna mfn. split , broken , shattered , pierced , destroyed RV. &c.
> &c. ; leaky (as a ship) MBh. ; broken through , transgressed ,
> violated Mn. MBh. &c. ; divided into parts , anything less than a
> whole Ya1jn5. Ka1v. &c. ; opened , expanded , blown MBh. Ka1v. &c. ;
> detached , disjoined , loosened ib. ; interrupted , disturbed
> Bhartr2. ; disclosed , betrayed R. ; disunited , set at variance
> MBh. ; seduced , bribed Ka1m. Hit. ; changed , altered Ya1jn5.
> Sus3r. ; distinct , different from or other than (abl. or comp.)
> Gr2S3rS. Ka1v. &c. ; deviating , abnormal , irregular Ka1v. ; mixed
> or mingled with (instr. or comp.) ib. ; cleaving to (loc. or comp.)
> ib. ; = %{bhinna-karaTa} MBh. i , 7006 ; m. (in arithm.) a fraction ,
> Lila1v. ; (%{A}) f. Sanseviera Roxburghiana L. ; n. a fragment ,
> bit , portion W. ; a wound from a pointed weapon , a stab Sus3r. ; a
> partic. mode of fighting Hariv.
>
> prakRtiH -- prakriti
> aSTadhaa -- eightfold
>
Thanks cardemaister,
JohnY
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[FairfieldLife] Re: BG VII 4
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > prakRtiH -- prakriti > > aSTadhaa -- eightfold > > > > > Thanks cardemaister, > > JohnY > That's just a good way to motivate myself to study them verses somewhat closer, mainly from a linguistic point of view, but it's a bonus for me if someone appreciates what I'm doing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Make your own "SUV drivers suck" commercial :-)
Chevy's 'Make Your Own Tahoe Commercial' idea not exactly going as planned 2006/03/31 As part of a creative new ad campaign for the new Tahoe, General Motors has teamed up with Donald Trump's 'The Apprentice' franchise to create a website that allows prospectives to make their own commercials online. The website allows readers to select backgrounds, video shots, and input text in an attempt to win prizes ranging from a Jackson Hole Getaway to a trip to the Major League Baseball All- Star Game. Rather predictably, however, certain surfers have been using the spot-building website for purposes that don't exactly put Chevrolet's newest in the best light. Unfortunately, GM's webmeisters appear to be asleep at the wheel, as we can't imagine these derogatory ads staying up on purpose. *Check out these for a few examples: http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=42019b68- 10ac-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=40a895fc- 10eb-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php?country=us&uniqueid=238ee5de- 122b-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] 'Nice Web-site/"Beingness"
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 'Nice Web-site/"Beingness"
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" wrote: > > > > Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity > > so now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest > > editorial. > > "Got all the publicity?" > > I was partly joking about the attempt to hijack FFL > and turn it into the cesspool that you guys turned > a.m.t. into, but I guess maybe I was onto something. > Do you *really* think in terms of "getting all the > publicity" when posting here? Is *that* why you > post so much? Are you suggesting that I am one of the three who posted the most in this most recent thread? > > Sad, if so. > > I was away all weekend, and returned to find Fairfield > Life having been turned into an intellectual sewer. I > was merely commenting on who managed to do that, and > what their inner motives might have been *for* doing it. > > I didn't notice that this weekend you were one of the > three people I was speaking about who managed to make > the entire newsgroup all about them and their insecurities. > But judging by the defensive way you jumped right in here > and couldn't wait to attack me, maybe you wish you had been. > > I guess I was one of the four, or something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] VII 5
apareyam itas tv anyaaM prakRtiM viddhi me paraam jiiva-bhuutaaM mahaa-baaho yayedaM dhaaryate jagat (Without sandhi: aparaa; iyam; itaH; tu; anyaam; prakRtim; viddhi; me; paraam; jiiva-bhuutaam; mahaa-baaho; yayaa; idam; dhaaryate; jagat) This Prakriti is My lower energy. My other higher energy is the Purusha by which this entire universe is sustained, O Arjuna. aparaa -- lower [is] iyam -- this itaH -- "besides this" tu -- but anyaam -- other-"im" (objective case) prakRtim -- energy-"m" ? viddhi -- know! me -- My paraam -- higher-"im" jiiva-bhuutaam -- ?? mahaa-baaho -- O Mighty-armed (Arjuna) yayaa -- by which idam -- this (universe) dhaaryate -- is sustained jagat -- entire universe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Nothing succeeds like success...
My man Christopher Moore's new book debuted at position #9 on the New York Times hardcover bestseller list. He gets to wag his butt in the face of Stephen King, who was in position #10. Let's hear it for laughter...by FAR the best medicine... :-) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Binaural beats Open Source freeware
Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you could listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves to various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and meditate as you normally would. They were very effective, but the entire series, done over months and years would end up costing thousands of dollars. Now that same technology is available in Open Source software for free: http://uazu.net/sbagen/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Binaural beats Open Source freeware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you could > listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves to > various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and > meditate as you normally would ...Gordon Bennet, Vaj. Is there any meditation technique on Planet Earth worth a piss in a bucket that you listen to music whilst doing it? Uns. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Make your own "SUV drivers suck" commercial :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Chevy's 'Make Your Own Tahoe Commercial' idea not exactly going as > planned > 2006/03/31 > > As part of a creative new ad campaign for the new > Tahoe, General Motors has teamed up with Donald > Trump's 'The Apprentice' franchise to create a > website that allows prospectives to make their own > commercials online. The website allows readers to > select backgrounds, video shots, and input text in > an attempt to win prizes ranging from a Jackson Hole > Getaway to a trip to the Major League Baseball All- > Star Game. > > Rather predictably, however, certain surfers have > been using the spot-building website for purposes > that don't exactly put Chevrolet's newest in the > best light. Unfortunately, GM's webmeisters appear > to be asleep at the wheel, as we can't imagine these > derogatory ads staying up on purpose. > > *Check out these for a few examples: > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=42019b68- > 10ac-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=40a895fc- > 10eb-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- > 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- > 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=ed9acefc- > 1185-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > > http://www.chevyapprentice.com/view.php? country=us&uniqueid=238ee5de- > 122b-1029-98eb-0013724ff5a7 > Thanks for making my morning! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Translation: Barry is jealous that Judy got all the publicity so > now he wants to cash in on it by piggybacking a guest editorial. If you look back on FFL and on alt.m.t, you'll find that Barry is almost always driven to write a "guest editorial" concerning threads I've been heavily involved in. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Binaural beats Open Source freeware
On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:32 AM, uns_tressor wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you could > > listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves to > > various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and > > meditate as you normally would > > > ...Gordon Bennet, Vaj. Is there any meditation technique > on Planet Earth worth a piss in a bucket that you listen > to music whilst doing it? > Uns. They generally don't use music on these things. It's either "pink noise" or something natural which is similar to pink noise like rain or the sound of a "babbling" brook. Some may add some tones like bells, but that's it. In general they should increase the effectiveness of your meditation--i.e. if you do TM you'll transcend deeper, for longer times. For that reason some of these CD's you can buy do them incrementally, as going too deep, too fast will cause some people to unstress too rapidly. What was surprising to me was the ability of entrained sound to "pull you down and keep you down". Pretty amazing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread > > > boring and ended! > > > > Either that or it should be retitled, > > "How three people with out of control egos > > hijacked a spiritual group and brought it > > down to the level of infantile egobabble." > > I think there is a lesson to be learned from > the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL > this weekend. > > A few people, with different political leanings > but with one thing in common, managed to side- > track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup > and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon- > stration of, "It's all about US...*WE* are what's > important here!" Or, it was a topic all three of us were deeply interested in. > The one thing that these three posters have in > common? All three have a history of being a little > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > spiritual experience Interesting that Barry claims to know our history of personal, subjective spiritual experience. , and all three have a history of > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. In fact, only one of us has done so (the person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. > One might suggest that the people who have no exper- > iences with higher states of consciousness of their > own to talk about, and who have a history of being > agressive and skeptical when others talk about them, > might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of > Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and > *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on "I am right, you > are wrong," "I have no hidden agenda but you have one," > and "I'm smart and you're not." In other words, the > mundane level at which *they* live and operate. One might suggest this, but if one suggested it about the thread in question, thread, one would be quite wrong. But being wrong has never stopped Barry from making suggestions yet. > > Voila. A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets > talked about is mundane, everyday political bull- > shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment > any more. > > Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization > of Fairfield Life. > > :-) :-) :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread > > > boring and ended! > > > > Either that or it should be retitled, > > "How three people with out of control egos > > hijacked a spiritual group and brought it > > down to the level of infantile egobabble." > > I think there is a lesson to be learned from > the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL > this weekend. > > A few people, with different political leanings > but with one thing in common, managed to side- > track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup > and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon- > stration of, "It's all about US...*WE* are what's > important here!" > > The one thing that these three posters have in > common? All three have a history of being a little > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > spiritual experience, and all three have a history of > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > One might suggest that the people who have no exper- > iences with higher states of consciousness of their > own to talk about, and who have a history of being > agressive and skeptical when others talk about them, > might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of > Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and > *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on "I am right, you > are wrong," "I have no hidden agenda but you have one," > and "I'm smart and you're not." In other words, the > mundane level at which *they* live and operate. > > Voila. A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets > talked about is mundane, everyday political bull- > shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment > any more. > > Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization > of Fairfield Life. > > :-) :-) :-) This coming from the person who has spent, literally, every day of the last 10 years of his life in childish, meaningless, hour-upon- hour debate with Judy Stein. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
Oh my. The bizzare little dream worlds people weave for themselves. A coping mechanism I suppose. Posts like are wonderful tools for culturing compassion -- by building recognizing and remembering how challenged and deluded some people are. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread > > > boring and ended! > > > > Either that or it should be retitled, > > "How three people with out of control egos > > hijacked a spiritual group and brought it > > down to the level of infantile egobabble." > > I think there is a lesson to be learned from > the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL > this weekend. > > A few people, with different political leanings > but with one thing in common, managed to side- > track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup > and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon- > stration of, "It's all about US...*WE* are what's > important here!" > > The one thing that these three posters have in > common? All three have a history of being a little > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > spiritual experience, and all three have a history of > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > One might suggest that the people who have no exper- > iences with higher states of consciousness of their > own to talk about, and who have a history of being > agressive and skeptical when others talk about them, > might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of > Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and > *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on "I am right, you > are wrong," "I have no hidden agenda but you have one," > and "I'm smart and you're not." In other words, the > mundane level at which *they* live and operate. > > Voila. A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets > talked about is mundane, everyday political bull- > shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment > any more. > > Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization > of Fairfield Life. > > :-) :-) :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Binaural beats Open Source freeware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you could > > listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves to > > various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and > > meditate as you normally would > > > ...Gordon Bennet, Vaj. Is there any meditation technique > on Planet Earth worth a piss in a bucket that you listen > to music whilst doing it? > Uns. I've experienced a couple. When it comes to 'worth,' I think it's important to realize that a lot of 'what something is worth' has to do with what you *exclude* from the category of 'worthy.' In other words, those who are open enough to experiment might find something of value in music-based meditation, whereas those who assume that there *could* be nothing of value in it will never even bother to try. Hint: a few teachers, considered by their students to be enlightened (I have no opinion on the subject) are musicians. What might happen if they created music, from that state of consciousness? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark 'Check this out/New Stuff on 9/11' - Options stuff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Thanks for the link. I'll have to find the daily options data again. I didn't look at American, but at United. I looked only at 2001 up to that point and the volume for the week looked unusually high given no specific public news and it not being an expiration week. I didn't look at the calls as this guy did, which is interesting. I think to really figure this out, you need to do the volume statistics, but also see if there is some obvious fundamental reason or not for each of daily volume peaks. Also see if the volume surge is industry wide or company specific and why. For now I'm back to neutral on this topic! PS - it's really stupid to try to profit from inside knowledge about 9/11 by trading specific company options where you would really stand out - you should just short s&p futures where you get leverage but can hide in the large volume crowd. > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > > The trading anomolies were in the options trading of the 2 airlines > > involved in 9/11 hijackings. The data is easily available - I do > > options trading for a living. I compared the options trading in the > > relevant airlines the prior week to 9/11 to the prior year and it was > > clearly statistically significant, no doubt about it, and it was all > > predicting a downward movement, ie, purchase of put options. > > > > Mark, I pulled together the data over a two year range prior to 9/11 > and I don't see anything that looks out of normal regularly occuring > trading ranges. I have yet to see how many standard deviations the > events are from the long-run mean, but you can see from the graphs, > its not going to be that high. > > Where are you finding "clearly statistically significant, no doubt > about it" anomolies? > > http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ > > > AMR Stock price dropped about 5% in 10 trading days prior to 9/11, but > as one can see there six or more such drops of this size or greater > in a 1-2week period, over the prior two years. > > Stock volume hit 1.3 million shares in the 10 trading days prior to > 9/11, but this is just a bit above the 90 day moving average. There > are 6 other days in the prior two years where over 4 million shares > were traded. > > Put volume reached 2300 one day in the 10 trading days prior to 9/11-- > but this was reached on 11 days over the prior two years, on average > once every two months or so. It was hardly a rare event. On six days > in that two year range, over 5000 contracts were traded, double the > highest day in the 10 trading days prior to 9/11, once every 4 months. > Even twice the just-prior-to 9/11 level was hardly a rare event. > > Interestingly Call volume reached 2500 in the 10 trading days prior to > 9/11, higher than the peak level of puts during this period. > > The regular frequency of the peak Put volume in the 10 trading days > prior to 9/11 over the prior two-year, and more greater number of > Calls in that 10-day period, dampens the speculation that Put volume > was abnormal high, out of any sense of ordinary trading range. > > > Boeing: Stock price dropped about 5% in the 10 trading days to 9/11, > but as one can see there four or more days that such drops of this > size or greater in a 1-2week period, over the prior two years. > > Stock volume hit 8 million shares in the 10 trading days prior to > 9/11, but there are 13 other days in the prior two years where this > occurred -- on average once every couple ofmonths. Once almost double > that volume was achieved. Frequently, volume hit the 6 million share > range. > > Put volume reached 15,000 and 20,000 contracts in the 10 trading days > prior to 9/11-- but this was reached 12 and 6 times respectively over > the prior two years. > > Interestingly Call volume reached 15,000 and 25,000 contracts in the > 10 trading days prior to 9/11. 25,000 had been reached only 2 times > previously in the past two years. Thus, it appears Call trades were > more out of the ordinary than puts. > > The regular frequency of the peak Put volume in the 10 trading days > prior to 9/11 over the prior 2-year period, and the higher level -- > and more rare level of Calls in that week -- dampens the speculation > that Put volume was abnormal high, out of any sense of ordinary > trading range. > > United Airlines data is not accessable. Old symbol UAL was retired > when the firm came out of bankrupcy and new stock was issued as UAUA. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, MDixon6569@ wrote: > > > > > > > > The Raja of Compton California now declares this thread > > > > boring and ended! > > > > > > Either that or it should be retitled, > > > "How three people with out of control egos > > > hijacked a spiritual group and brought it > > > down to the level of infantile egobabble." > > > > I think there is a lesson to be learned from > > the veritable orgy of flatulence that was FFL > > this weekend. > > > > A few people, with different political leanings > > but with one thing in common, managed to side- > > track ALL spiritual discussion on the newsgroup > > and turn Fairfield Life into a 500+-post demon- > > stration of, "It's all about US...*WE* are what's > > important here!" > > Or, it was a topic all three of us were deeply > interested in. > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > spiritual experience > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our > history of personal, subjective spiritual > experience. > > , and all three have a history of > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry responded to my request that he actually tell us which other spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that were "effortless". > > > One might suggest that the people who have no exper- > > iences with higher states of consciousness of their > > own to talk about, and who have a history of being > > agressive and skeptical when others talk about them, > > might subconsciously be wanting to shift the focus of > > Fairfield Life *AWAY* from such discussions, and > > *TOWARDS* discussions that focus on "I am right, you > > are wrong," "I have no hidden agenda but you have one," > > and "I'm smart and you're not." In other words, the > > mundane level at which *they* live and operate. > > One might suggest this, but if one suggested it > about the thread in question, thread, one would > be quite wrong. > > But being wrong has never stopped Barry from making > suggestions yet. > > > > > > Voila. A few 500-post slugfests and all that gets > > talked about is mundane, everyday political bull- > > shit, and no one is talking about enlightenment > > any more. > > > > Welcome to the alt.meditation.transcendalization > > of Fairfield Life. > > > > :-) :-) :-) > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Binaural beats Open Source freeware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "uns_tressor" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you > could > > > listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves > to > > > various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and > > > meditate as you normally would > > > > > > ...Gordon Bennet, Vaj. Is there any meditation technique > > on Planet Earth worth a piss in a bucket that you listen > > to music whilst doing it? > > Uns. > > I've experienced a couple. When it comes to 'worth,' > I think it's important to realize that a lot of 'what > something is worth' has to do with what you *exclude* > from the category of 'worthy.' In other words, those > who are open enough to experiment might find something > of value in music-based meditation, whereas those who > assume that there *could* be nothing of value in it > will never even bother to try. > > Hint: a few teachers, considered by their students > to be enlightened (I have no opinion on the subject) > are musicians. What might happen if they created music, > from that state of consciousness? > Barry has done so many meditation techniques. He is really an experienced adept. I guess the more spiritual and meditation techniques you do, the more enlightened you are. He reminds me of Bob Hope's quip about who was more successful after their breakup, Jerry Lewis or Dean Martin: Oh, Jerry's been way more successful. Jerry has had five different TV shows and Dean's only had one. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Any info on patanjali kundalini yoga care services?
Anyone know about this service offered by Shivarpita Chaitanya (joan harrigan) and swami Chandrasekharanand Saraswati, in Tenn, US and Rishikesh, India?? I've heard good things from a couple of people. They focus on kundalini and seem to have worked with many sidhas who've developed kundalini problems, often from the tm-sidhis program. here's their link: http://kundalinicare.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark 'Check this out/New Stuff on 9/11' - Options stuff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > PS - it's really stupid to try to profit from inside knowledge > about 9/11 by trading specific company options where you would > really stand out - you should just short s&p futures where you get > leverage but can hide in the large volume crowd. That may be the best argument yet against these anomalies having anything to do with 9/11. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark 'Check this out/New Stuff on 9/11' - Options stuff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > Thanks for the link. I'll have to find the daily options data again. > I didn't look at American, but at United. I looked only at 2001 up to > that point and the volume for the week looked unusually high given no > specific public news and it not being an expiration week. I didn't > look at the calls as this guy did, which is interesting. "this guy" was me. I put that blog together yesterday to look at this issue. I am surprise UAL was not accessable by my provider. Usually expired symbols still have data. I would have liked to have seen that pattern. > I think to > really figure this out, you need to do the volume statistics, but also > see if there is some obvious fundamental reason or not for each of > daily volume peaks. See the Snopes link. It traces down the large trades. http://www.snopes.com/rumors/putcall.asp >Also see if the volume surge is industry wide or > company specific and why. For now I'm back to neutral on this topic! > PS - it's really stupid to try to profit from inside knowledge about > 9/11 by trading specific company options where you would really stand > out - you should just short s&p futures where you get leverage but can > hide in the large volume crowd. Yes. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > > wrote: > > > > > > The trading anomolies were in the options trading of the 2 airlines > > > involved in 9/11 hijackings. The data is easily available - I do > > > options trading for a living. I compared the options trading in the > > > relevant airlines the prior week to 9/11 to the prior year and it was > > > clearly statistically significant, no doubt about it, and it was all > > > predicting a downward movement, ie, purchase of put options. > > > > > > > > Mark, I pulled together the data over a two year range prior to 9/11 > > and I don't see anything that looks out of normal regularly occuring > > trading ranges. I have yet to see how many standard deviations the > > events are from the long-run mean, but you can see from the graphs, > > its not going to be that high. > > > > Where are you finding "clearly statistically significant, no doubt > > about it" anomolies? > > > > http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ > > > > > > AMR Stock price dropped about 5% in 10 trading days prior to 9/11, but > > as one can see there six or more such drops of this size or greater > > in a 1-2week period, over the prior two years. > > > > Stock volume hit 1.3 million shares in the 10 trading days prior to > > 9/11, but this is just a bit above the 90 day moving average. There > > are 6 other days in the prior two years where over 4 million shares > > were traded. > > > > Put volume reached 2300 one day in the 10 trading days prior to 9/11-- > > but this was reached on 11 days over the prior two years, on average > > once every two months or so. It was hardly a rare event. On six days > > in that two year range, over 5000 contracts were traded, double the > > highest day in the 10 trading days prior to 9/11, once every 4 months. > > Even twice the just-prior-to 9/11 level was hardly a rare event. > > > > Interestingly Call volume reached 2500 in the 10 trading days prior to > > 9/11, higher than the peak level of puts during this period. > > > > The regular frequency of the peak Put volume in the 10 trading days > > prior to 9/11 over the prior two-year, and more greater number of > > Calls in that 10-day period, dampens the speculation that Put volume > > was abnormal high, out of any sense of ordinary trading range. > > > > > > Boeing: Stock price dropped about 5% in the 10 trading days to 9/11, > > but as one can see there four or more days that such drops of this > > size or greater in a 1-2week period, over the prior two years. > > > > Stock volume hit 8 million shares in the 10 trading days prior to > > 9/11, but there are 13 other days in the prior two years where this > > occurred -- on average once every couple ofmonths. Once almost double > > that volume was achieved. Frequently, volume hit the 6 million share > > range. > > > > Put volume reached 15,000 and 20,000 contracts in the 10 trading days > > prior to 9/11-- but this was reached 12 and 6 times respectively over > > the prior two years. > > > > Interestingly Call volume reached 15,000 and 25,000 contracts in the > > 10 trading days prior to 9/11. 25,000 had been reached only 2 times > > previously in the past two years. Thus, it appears Call trades were > > more out of the ordinary than puts. > > > > The regular frequency of the peak Put volume in the 10 trading days > > prior to 9/11 over the prior 2-year period, and the higher level -- > > and more rare level of Calls in that week -- dampens the speculation > > that Put volume was abnormal high, out of any sense of ordinary > > trading ran
[FairfieldLife] Useless and pointless trivia, but neat...
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[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > > spiritual experience > > > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our > > history of personal, subjective spiritual > > experience. > > > > , and all three have a history of > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). > > > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. > > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that > were "effortless". There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than claiming those who criticize you do so because they haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual experience" as you have. It certainly makes the point that having spiritual experiences does not a spiritual person make, though. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Useless and pointless trivia, but neat...
On Wednesday of this week, at two minutes and three seconds after 1:00 in the morning, the time and date will be (using American date notation): 01:02:03 04/05/06 If you're European, the same thing happens using their date notation on May 4th. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Kaplans' father dies
http://tinyurl.com/qqcum sylvan kaplan obituary - post-dispatch 4/2/06 To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Any info on patanjali kundalini yoga care services?
Isn't this the path that Earl Kaplan's follows?On Apr 3, 2006, at 10:33 AM, markmeredith2002 wrote:Anyone know about this service offered by Shivarpita Chaitanya (joanharrigan) and swami Chandrasekharanand Saraswati, in Tenn, US andRishikesh, India?? I've heard good things from a couple of people. They focus on kundalini and seem to have worked with many sidhaswho've developed kundalini problems, often from the tm-sidhis program.here's their link: http://kundalinicare.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Help needed in bringing a spiritual teacher to town
Title: Help needed in bringing a spiritual teacher to town From a friend who wants to bring this fellow to town. I am not in a position to organize his visit and neither is she, but if someone would like to, email me and I’ll put you in touch with her. Master Teacher of Vaishnava Mystery School to hold two-hour loveshop Transcendental writer, musician and podcaster David Bruce Hughes (Bhaktisiddhartha Dasanudas), fully self-realized representative of the Gaudiya Vaishnava school, will offer insights derived from his lifetime of study and practice at the source of his lineage in India. This event features kirtan, talks and personal sharing for those who want to go deeper into the Bhakti Vedic tradition and lifestyle. David sees Bhakti as a path to realization of the most profound Vedic truths of the Upanishads, Vedanta and Bhagavad-gita in the context of a loving service relationship with an affectionate personal God. For more information see his podcast at http://esotericteaching/blog . --- David Bruce Hughes, a Master Teacher of the Brotherhood of the Esoteric Teaching and the author and presenter of the Esoteric Teaching seminar series, is not an ordinary spiritual teacher or workshop facilitator, but a fully self-realized being of extremely high attainment. David lived in India for many years, is an advanced student of several different schools of Yoga, and has also studied Jyotish, Qigong, Qidoshka, Madhyamika and other traditional Eastern spiritual paths and practices in the original languages and cultures. Most importantly, he is a confidential initiate of the Esoteric Teaching, the high-level mystical meta-knowledge that is both the origin and goal of all genuine spiritual paths. David is one of very few Westerners to be awarded the coveted Vedic brahmana initiation, the only Westerner ever to be invited to study at the secret Himalayan Tantra school in Nainital, and one of only a handful of scholars with unrestricted access to its complete Vedic archives. He also earned other esoteric degrees from Navaho Qidoshka shamans, traditional Vedic Yoga in India, and Taoist Qigong schools in Taiwan and Guam. David has written five books on the advanced stages of spiritual life, recorded and published ten CDs of spiritual music and Vedic chants, and is an accomplished musician, graphic designer, publisher, multimedia producer and Web designer. Would anyone be willing to help co-ordinate his visit to Fairfield? He will be coming sometime between May 15 - 21, depending on when lectures can be arranged. Please email Rick if you can help. We need to start this week on preparations. Thank you in advance for your loving care of this most special and unusual and truly holy man. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > > > spiritual experience > > > > > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our > > > history of personal, subjective spiritual > > > experience. > > > > > > , and all three have a history of > > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > > > > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the > > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). > > > > > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about > > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz > > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. > > > > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry > > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other > > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that > > were "effortless". > > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than > claiming those who criticize you do so because they > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual > experience" as you have. I was merely citing your *own* words, back on a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and stated freely (many times) that you had never had any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks, months or years, as reported by other posters there). Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever. :-) Here's your opportunity to set the record straight: Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing (the experience you yourself tend to associate with CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes? For example, have you ever had such an experience that has ever lasted an hour? A day? Several days? A week? Two weeks? A month? A year? If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming that your experience is limited to what you used to talk about before you stopped talking about such things. :-) > It certainly makes the point that having spiritual > experiences does not a spiritual person make, though. Yeah, we know that's your position. Interesting position for someone who's never *had* those experiences to take, eh? :-) :-) :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Kaplans' father dies
The best part of any obit having to do with Ru's (or, in the case of the Kaplan's, former Ru's) is reading the names of kids or grandkids in the "survived by" section: Ananda Sunny Skye Kalki Sunny Skye in particular should not hesitate, upon reaching the age of majority, in filing a lawsuit against his or her parents for mental cruelty. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://tinyurl.com/qqcum > > sylvan kaplan obituary - post-dispatch 4/2/06 > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > > > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > > > > spiritual experience > > > > > > > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our > > > > history of personal, subjective spiritual > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > , and all three have a history of > > > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > > > > > > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the > > > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). > > > > > > > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about > > > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz > > > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. > > > > > > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that Barry > > > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other > > > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that > > > were "effortless". > > > > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than > > claiming those who criticize you do so because they > > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual > > experience" as you have. > > I was merely citing your *own* words, back on > a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and > stated freely (many times) that you had never had > any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity > that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after > program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks, > months or years, as reported by other posters there). > > Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack > of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that > what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever. :-) > > Here's your opportunity to set the record straight: ...and hereafter Barry becomes the New Age's Joe McCarthy... > Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing > (the experience you yourself tend to associate with > CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes? > For example, have you ever had such an experience > that has ever lasted an hour? A day? Several days? > A week? Two weeks? A month? A year? > > If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming > that your experience is limited to what you used to talk > about before you stopped talking about such things. :-) > > > It certainly makes the point that having spiritual > > experiences does not a spiritual person make, though. > > Yeah, we know that's your position. Interesting > position for someone who's never *had* those > experiences to take, eh? :-) :-) :-) > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Mark Meredith, please comment
Mark: now that you have been informed (by the snopes posting by Anon) that the American Airlines put options purchase was counterbalanced by the purchase by the same institutional buyer of American stock, do you still feel that this was a suspicious trade, as you indicated in a previous post? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark 'Check this out/New Stuff on 9/11' - Options stuff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PS - it's really stupid to try to profit from inside knowledge about > 9/11 by trading specific company options where you would really stand > out - you should just short s&p futures where you get leverage but can > hide in the large volume crowd. I added a chart of SPY the high volume ETF that covers the S&P 500. SPY (S&P 500 ETF) which has very high overall volume, and would be a natural choice to "hide" advanced knowledge trades, did show a 5% or so decline the last 10 days prior to 9/11, under relatively heavy volume, 34 million shares. But this was part of a 15 % or so decline since mid May 2001 and a 30% decline from a year prior to 9/11. While volume was relatively high, it was only half the peak daily volume achieved in mid-march 2001. And the long term trend of volume on SPY was increasing as more investors and traders began to use the recently introduced ETFS (exchange traded funds) http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > The one thing that these three posters have in > > > > > > common? All three have a history of being a little > > > > > > light in the loafers in terms of personal, subjective > > > > > > spiritual experience > > > > > > > > > > Interesting that Barry claims to know our > > > > > history of personal, subjective spiritual > > > > > experience. > > > > > > > > > > , and all three have a history of > > > > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > > > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. > > > > > > > > > > In fact, only one of us has done so (the > > > > > person currently posting as anon_sleuth_ff). > > > > > > > > > > Oh, wait, Shemp *did* have some questions about > > > > > Barry's claim to have seen Frederick Lenz > > > > > levitate that Barry didn't appreciate. > > > > > > > > That was nothing compared to the deeply spiritual way that > Barry > > > > responded to my request that he actually tell us which other > > > > spiritual techniques that he claimed that were out there that > > > > were "effortless". > > > > > > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than > > > claiming those who criticize you do so because they > > > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual > > > experience" as you have. > > > > I was merely citing your *own* words, back on > > a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and > > stated freely (many times) that you had never had > > any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity > > that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after > > program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks, > > months or years, as reported by other posters there). > > > > Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack > > of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that > > what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever. :-) > > > > Here's your opportunity to set the record straight: > > ...and hereafter Barry becomes the New Age's Joe McCarthy... > snip +++ Long weekend... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Any info on Patanjali kundalini yoga care services?
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Any info on Patanjali kundalini yoga care services? on 4/3/06 8:52 AM, Vaj at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't this the path that Earl Kaplan's follows? Yes, it is. I think Joan Harrington came to FF, but I was out of town. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
Title: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc. LONDON, ENGLAND, March 31, 2006: The exiled Tibetan spiritual leader told The Daily Telegraph that terrorists should be treated humanely. He also revealed the workings of his relationship with US President George W. Bush, said Westerners had become too self-absorbed and repeated his opposition to homosexuality in a wide-ranging interview. The Dalai Lama said modern terrorism was born out of jealousy of Western lifestyles. "Fundamentalism is terrifying because it is based purely on emotion, rather than intelligence," the 70-year-old monk said at the seat of his government-in-exile in the northern Indian hilltop town of Dharamsala. "It prevents followers from thinking as individuals and about the good of the world. "This new terrorism has been brewing for many years. Much of it is caused by jealousy and frustration at the West because it looks so highly developed and successful on television. Leaders in the East use religion to counter that, to bind these cou ntries together. " Terrorists, he warned, must be treated humanely. "Otherwise, the problem will escalate. If there is one Bin Laden killed today, soon there will be 10 Bin Ladens. Awesome. Ten Bin Ladens killed, the hatred is spread; 100 bombed, and 1,000 lose members of their families." Although he appeared not to approve of the war in Iraq, he was admiring of Bush. "He is very straightforward," said the monk. "On our first visit, I was faced with a large plate of biscuits. President Bush immediately offered me his favorites, and after that, we got on fine. On my next visit, he didn't mind when I was blunt about the war. "By my third visit, I was ushering him into the Oval Office. I was astonished by his grasp of Buddhism." He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, burdened with too much choice. "It is fascinating. In the West, you have bigger homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet you never seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet you don't bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors," he said. "I don't think people have become more selfish, but their lives have become easier and that has spoilt them. They have less resilience, they expect more, they constantly compare themselves to others and they have too much choice -- which brings no real freedom." --From Hindu Press International, April 2, 2006 http://www.hinduismtoday/subscribe.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Binaural beats Open Source freeware
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 3, 2006, at 9:32 AM, uns_tressor wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj wrote: > > > > > > Years ago a friend bought me this CD series as a gift that you could > > > listen to on headphones and it would "entrain" your brain waves to > > > various meditative states. You would just listen to the CD and > > > meditate as you normally would > > > > > > ...Gordon Bennet, Vaj. Is there any meditation technique > > on Planet Earth worth a piss in a bucket that you listen > > to music whilst doing it? > > Uns. > > They generally don't use music on these things. It's either "pink > noise" or something natural which is similar to pink noise like rain > or the sound of a "babbling" brook. Some may add some tones like > bells, but that's it. In general they should increase the > effectiveness of your meditation--i.e. if you do TM you'll transcend > deeper, for longer times. For that reason some of these CD's you can > buy do them incrementally, as going too deep, too fast will cause > some people to unstress too rapidly. What was surprising to me was > the ability of entrained sound to "pull you down and keep you down". > Pretty amazing. > And the research that shows this actually happens is found... where? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: 911 Commission on 911 Puts "apparently suspicious con...
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > There really isn't anything much lower-vibe than > > claiming those who criticize you do so because they > > haven't had as much "personal, subjective spiritual > > experience" as you have. > > I was merely citing your *own* words, back on > a.m.t. when you were a little more honest, and > stated freely (many times) that you had never had > any experience of enlightenment/witnessing in activity > that had lasted more than a couple of minutes after > program (as opposed to, say, several days, weeks, > months or years, as reported by other posters there). > > Then for some reason you stopped admitting your lack > of such experiences publicly, and started hinting that > what you'd said before wasn't the whole story. Whatever. :-) In the first place, using a lack of personal experience to attack someone because they've criticized you is inherently low-vibe. As I said, it doesn't get much lower. So it's not any the less low-vibe to use what someone has said about their personal experience to one audience for the purpose of attacking that person before a different audience. In the third place, it's downright moronic to assume that a person's spiritual experience is *static*-- that what they've reported at one point is never going to change. > Here's your opportunity to set the record straight: No, I don't discuss my spiritual experience on demand, as I've told you many times before. I'll talk about it when and if I feel like talking about it; I don't feel the need, as you obviously do, to boast about it or play dueling experiences in an attempt to put somebody down. > Have you ever had an experience of 24/7 witnessing > (the experience you yourself tend to associate with > CC) that has lasted longer than a couple of minutes? > For example, have you ever had such an experience > that has ever lasted an hour? A day? Several days? > A week? Two weeks? A month? A year? > > If you don't answer, you can hardly base us for assuming > that your experience is limited to what you used to talk > about before you stopped talking about such things. :-) Well, yes, one can certainly "base" (I think you meant "blame") you for making that assumption. It makes no sense, for one thing, as noted. Also as noted, your tendency both to make boastful claims about your own spiritual experience and to use it as a weapon against your critics when they decline to do the same reveals that, as I said: > > It certainly makes the point that having spiritual > > experiences does not a spiritual person make, though. > > Yeah, we know that's your position. Interesting > position for someone who's never *had* those > experiences to take, eh? :-) :-) :-) It would be for someone who's never had spiritual experiences, yes indeed. Were you perhaps assuming that *only* those who had never had spiritual experiences would take that position? Now, would you like to attempt to justify your other major misstatement as well? To wit: and all three have a history of > > > > reacting badly and agressively when people here who > > > > *have* had such experiences choose to report them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark: now that you have been informed (by the snopes posting by Anon) > that the American Airlines put options purchase was counterbalanced > by the purchase by the same institutional buyer of American stock, do > you still feel that this was a suspicious trade, as you indicated in > a previous post? Let's not forget, by the way, that the suspicious trading involved far more than stock in just the two airline companies. There was unusual trading in the stock of firms whose offices were in the World Trade Center, including Morgan Stanley, Lehman Bros., Bank of America, and Marsh & McLennan; insurance companies Munich Re (Germany) and AXA Group (France), which combined were on the hook for about $2 billion in damages from the attacks, as well as American International Group, Swiss Reinsurance, Chubb, Cigna, CNA Financial, John Hancock, and MetLife; plus General Motors, Raytheon, Continental, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, USAirways, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Citigroup (38 companies in all); there was also a surge in the purchase of five-year Treasury notes and unusual movement in gold and oil prices. Also, as of September 29, 2001, according to the San Francisco Chronicle: Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data. The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance knowledge of the strikes. "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. "This smells real bad." The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the account has been frozen. The markets were closed for four days after the attack, giving investigators time to notice the anomalous trades. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
"...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > LONDON, ENGLAND, March 31, 2006: The exiled Tibetan spiritual leader told > The Daily Telegraph that terrorists should be treated humanely. He also > revealed the workings of his relationship with US President George W. Bush, > said Westerners had become too self-absorbed and repeated his opposition to > homosexuality in a wide-ranging interview. The Dalai Lama said modern > terrorism was born out of jealousy of Western lifestyles. "Fundamentalism is > terrifying because it is based purely on emotion, rather than intelligence," > the 70-year-old monk said at the seat of his government-in-exile in the > northern Indian hilltop town of Dharamsala. "It prevents followers from > thinking as individuals and about the good of the world. "This new terrorism > has been brewing for many years. Much of it is caused by jealousy and > frustration at the West because it looks so highly developed and successful > on television. Leaders in the East use religion to counter that, to bind > these cou ntries together. " Terrorists, he warned, must be treated > humanely. "Otherwise, the problem will escalate. If there is one Bin Laden > killed today, soon there will be 10 Bin Ladens. Awesome. Ten Bin Ladens > killed, the hatred is spread; 100 bombed, and 1,000 lose members of their > families." > > Although he appeared not to approve of the war in Iraq, he was admiring of > Bush. "He is very straightforward," said the monk. "On our first visit, I > was faced with a large plate of biscuits. President Bush immediately offered > me his favorites, and after that, we got on fine. On my next visit, he > didn't mind when I was blunt about the war. "By my third visit, I was > ushering him into the Oval Office. I was astonished by his grasp of > Buddhism." > > He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, burdened > with too much choice. "It is fascinating. In the West, you have bigger > homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet you never > seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet you don't > bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors," he said. "I don't think > people have become more selfish, but their lives have become easier and that > has spoilt them. They have less resilience, they expect more, they > constantly compare themselves to others and they have too much choice -- > which brings no real freedom." > > --From Hindu Press International, April 2, 2006 > > http://www.hinduismtoday/subscribe.html > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Mark: now that you have been informed (by the snopes posting by > > Anon) that the American Airlines put options purchase was > > counterbalanced by the purchase by the same institutional buyer > > of American stock, do you still feel that this was a suspicious > > trade, as you indicated in a previous post? > > Let's not forget, by the way, that the suspicious trading > involved far more than stock in just the two airline > companies. Forgot to note: Snopes.com and the 9/11 commission cited explanations *only* for the trading in American and United. Does anyone know of plausible explanations for any of the other anomalies? > There was unusual trading in the stock of firms whose > offices were in the World Trade Center, including Morgan > Stanley, Lehman Bros., Bank of America, and Marsh & > McLennan; insurance companies Munich Re (Germany) and AXA > Group (France), which combined were on the hook for about > $2 billion in damages from the attacks, as well as American > International Group, Swiss Reinsurance, Chubb, Cigna, CNA > Financial, John Hancock, and MetLife; plus General Motors, > Raytheon, Continental, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, > USAirways, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Citigroup (38 > companies in all); there was also a surge in the purchase > of five-year Treasury notes and unusual movement in gold > and oil prices. > > Also, as of September 29, 2001, according to the San > Francisco Chronicle: > > Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they > made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. > 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades > and market data. > > The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose > identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance > knowledge of the strikes. > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and > run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever > did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. > > "This smells real bad." > > The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the > purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be > picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the account > has been frozen. > > The markets were closed for four days after the attack, giving > investigators time to notice the anomalous trades. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. Did the Dalai Lama say he opposed equal rights for gays? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. Having only been around Maharishi, I guess you might not have had much experience with working with a spiritual teacher and not being expected to agree with everything he says. :-) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:23 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. See http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm He has many students who are gay or lesbian--probably not that much different than M. or any other teacher. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > Having only been around Maharishi, I guess you > might not have had much experience with working > with a spiritual teacher and not being expected > to agree with everything he says. > > :-) > Yes. M. didn't suffer fools, yet like a real trooper Barry hung in there for years. (Oh I forgot, B. stayed on for the SIMS poontang, not the "knowledge". Never mind.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
In a message dated 4/3/06 11:24:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..."I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. Yes, but Richard has a special place for Gerbils and its not in his heart. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > Did the Dalai Lama say he opposed equal rights for gays? > Actually, all I could find in the article on the subject was just those five words I quoted above. I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I don't know). But it would be interesting to see what it is about homosexuality that he opposes. What I'm interested in is the dynamic between individual beliefs -- such as those held by Gere as a practising Buddhist and "follower" of the Dalai Lama -- and those held by the leader of the religion. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
Isn't Bush the first President to receive the Dalai Lama in the White House? All the others didn't want to *offend* the Chinese. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > Having only been around Maharishi, Gee, Barry, what makes you think I've "been around Maharishi" let alone "only" been around him? I think I've been "around" him a total of 3 or 4 days in my life. > I guess you > might not have had much experience with working > with a spiritual teacher and not being expected > to agree with everything he says. I know you'd love to pidgeon-hole me into the stereotype of what you see as the cult-members of the TMO (which any regular reader of this forum knows I am front and foremost in opposing) but, Barry, I know you know better than that so I won't distinguish your remarks by any further comment other than suggesting that you probably had a rough week-end. > > :-) > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous > follower, > > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > > > Did the Dalai Lama say he opposed equal rights for gays? > > Actually, all I could find in the article on the subject was just > those five words I quoted above. > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian fundamentalist "love > the sinner but hate the sin", I don't know). But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. But it would be > interesting to see what it is about homosexuality that he opposes. > > What I'm interested in is the dynamic between individual beliefs -- > such as those held by Gere as a practising Buddhist and "follower" > of the Dalai Lama -- and those held by the leader of the religion. Yes, that would be interesting to know more about. My *guess* would be that the Dalai Lama is much more strongly opposed to intolerance than he is to homosexuality, and that his gay followers understand this and don't feel threatened by his views about homosexuality any more than he feels threatened by them. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] The poop on Richard Gere and gerbils from scopes.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > In a message dated 4/3/06 11:24:29 A.M. Central Daylight Time, > [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > > > > > Yes, but Richard has a special place for Gerbils and its not in his heart. > >From Scopes.com (our new arbiter here on FFL on what's real and unreal): Claim: A celebrity makes a trip to the emergency room to have a gerbil removed from his rectum. Status: False. Example: [Gibbs and Ross, 1996] The following is a true account: A 26-year-old male arrives at the ER complaining of rectal bleeding. He is too embarrassed to provide an accurate history but provides the examing doctor a clue: "There might be something stuck in my rear end." Examination reveals a non-tender abdomen, but a rectal exam shows blood coming from his anus. A speculum exam reveals bloody stool and a dead gerbil. Apparently, through the cardboard tubing from a paper towel roll, the rodent had been forced into his rectum. Once the animal was in, the tube was pulled out. The idea is that as the gerbil suffocates, it scratches and claws at the lining of the rectum, providing an intense sensation to the patient. The rodent should then have been defecated, but the swelling and bleeding had caused the retention of the animal. The patient required pain medication and antibiotics after the animal was removed, but was then allowed to go home. Origins: Contrary to widespread public belief, "gerbil-stuffing" is unknown as an actual sexual practice, nor are we aware of a verified medical case of a gerbil having been extracted from a patient's rectum. Despite the assiduousness with which doctors record unusual items removed from patients' rectums in order to write them up as illustrative cases, we haven't yet found a medical journal article involving a gerbil removal. (Doctors, like most people, often repeat urban legends and stories told to them by others as first-person experiences, hence our standard for declaring this true is a peer-reviewed journal article rather than anecdote.) The notion of gerbilling (not necessarily restricted to homosexuals the insertion of items into the rectum for purposes of autoeroticism is practiced by heterosexuals as well) appears to be pure invention, a tale fabricated to demonstrate the depravity with which "faggots" allegedly pursue sexual pleasure. (While people do stick all sorts of unusual items up their rectums, they also do so for reasons other than sexual pleasure.) Like similar legends such as The Promiscuous Rock Star, this tale has been applied to various public figures who are known or believed to be homosexual, and it has stuck with one in particular: Richard Gere. Although the legend homed in on various targets when it first appeared (including a Philadelphia newscaster), it has clung tenaciously to Mr. Gere's name since at least the mid-1980s. Rumors that he had an emergency "gerbilectomy" at Cedars-Sinai Hospital in California have spread far and wide, and countless doctors and nurses claim to have participated in, been on hand during, or heard from a reliable colleague about, the procedure. (Cedars-Sinai is apparently the best-staffed hospital in the world, since several hundred different doctors and nurses were reportedly on duty at the time Mr. Gere was allegedly brought in for treatment.) The rumor's spread was aided by an anonymous prankster who, not long after the film Pretty Woman led to a tremendous increase in Gere's popularity, flooded fax machines in Hollywood with a phony "press release" purportedly issued by the Association for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, claiming that Gere had "abused" a gerbil. But, as a reporter from The National Enquirer found when he attempted to track down the gerbil story, there were no facts to be had. Versions of the following gerbilling fiction date back at least to 1993 when a faked United Press International item appeared on the Internet, one that named Vito Bustone and Kiki Rodriguez of Lake City, Florida, as the accident victims. (The gerbil's name was withheld by request of the family.) Other versions have been falsely attributed to the Los Angeles Times with the events said to have taken place in Salt Lake City, Utah. Rest assured that neither news outlet ever published a news article about these fictitious events: "In retrospect, lighting the match was my big mistake. But I was only trying to retrieve the gerbil," Eric Tomaszewski told bemused doctors in the Severe Burns Unit of Salt Lake City Hospital. Tomaszewski, and his homosexual partner Andrew "Kiki" Farnum, had been admitted for emergency treatment after a felching session had gone seriously wrong. "I pushed a cardboard tube up his rec
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous > > follower, > > > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > > > > > Did the Dalai Lama say he opposed equal rights for gays? > > > > Actually, all I could find in the article on the subject was just > > those five words I quoted above. > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian fundamentalist "love > > the sinner but hate the sin", I don't know). > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, etc. then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. I've always interpreted that phrase to mean the same as it means for African-Americans and other historically oppressed minorities: equal, but not special or exceptional, rights. > > But it would be > > interesting to see what it is about homosexuality that he opposes. > > > > What I'm interested in is the dynamic between individual beliefs -- > > such as those held by Gere as a practising Buddhist and "follower" > > of the Dalai Lama -- and those held by the leader of the religion. > > Yes, that would be interesting to know more about. > > My *guess* would be that the Dalai Lama is much more > strongly opposed to intolerance than he is to > homosexuality, and that his gay followers understand > this and don't feel threatened by his views about > homosexuality any more than he feels threatened by > them. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The poop on Richard Gere and gerbils from scopes.com
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From Scopes.com (our new arbiter here on FFL on what's real and > unreal): (It's Snopes.com, not Scopes.com.) FWIW, Snopes.com has a really excellent reputation for accuracy in debunking "urban legends" (which may or may not be urban, but it's become an all-inclusive category). It's hard to find one of those viral emails they haven't investigated at some point. (By "viral" I just mean one that gets passed around over and over and becomes widespread, not that it contains a virus.) Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] This is your Democratic Party
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I don't > > > know). > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, etc. > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just marriage, actually. > I've always interpreted that phrase to mean the same as it means > for African-Americans and other historically oppressed minorities: > equal, but not special or exceptional, rights. Right. And...? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for gays > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I don't > > > > know). > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, etc. > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > marriage, actually. And what about the Dalia Lama? Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays than the Christian Fundies? > > > I've always interpreted that phrase to mean the same as it means > > for African-Americans and other historically oppressed minorities: > > equal, but not special or exceptional, rights. > > Right. And...? > And what? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side of the aisle. On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives and one Democratic senator. Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for > gays > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I don't > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, etc. > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > marriage, actually. > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays > than the Christian Fundies? My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike the fundies. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Mark: now that you have been informed (by the snopes posting by Anon) > that the American Airlines put options purchase was counterbalanced by > the purchase by the same institutional buyer of American stock, do you > still feel that this was a suspicious trade, as you indicated in a > previous post? > My full response to this isn't showing up...in short it explains a lot about the high UAL put volumes I saw. I still have some questions on this rather weird trade (shorting UAL via puts, then buying AMR stock 4 days later, but not in equal hedged amounts), and other aspects of the official report. I'd say the put trades pre-9/11 probably have normal explanations but I'm not 100% convinced. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1090580208105680.xml SEC probe finds no evidence of Sept. 11 terrorist trade schemes Friday, July 23, 2004 Associated Press Washington- After an extensive investigation, the government has found no evidence that terrorists tried to profit from stock and options trading before the Sept. 11 attacks, the Securities and Exchange Commission said Thursday. "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC said. That conclusion, included in the final report issued Thursday by the Sept. 11 commission, was the government's first public statement on the findings of the trading investigation. SEC spokesmen would not say when the inquiry was completed. The world's largest options market, the Chicago Board Options Exchange, said in September 2001 that it was investigating reports of unusual trading activity before the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon. Germany's stock market regulator said it was looking into claims of suspicious short-selling of insurance company shares just before the attacks. Investors engaged in short selling profit if a stock's price falls. http://www.blogger.com/post-edit.g?blogID=25253285&postID=114401127481088517 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > Mark: now that you have been informed (by the snopes posting by Anon) > > that the American Airlines put options purchase was counterbalanced > > by the purchase by the same institutional buyer of American stock, do > > you still feel that this was a suspicious trade, as you indicated in > > a previous post? > > Let's not forget, by the way, that the suspicious trading > involved far more than stock in just the two airline > companies. > > There was unusual trading in the stock of firms whose > offices were in the World Trade Center, including Morgan > Stanley, Lehman Bros., Bank of America, and Marsh & > McLennan; insurance companies Munich Re (Germany) and AXA > Group (France), which combined were on the hook for about > $2 billion in damages from the attacks, as well as American > International Group, Swiss Reinsurance, Chubb, Cigna, CNA > Financial, John Hancock, and MetLife; plus General Motors, > Raytheon, Continental, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, > USAirways, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Citigroup (38 > companies in all); there was also a surge in the purchase > of five-year Treasury notes and unusual movement in gold > and oil prices. > > Also, as of September 29, 2001, according to the San > Francisco Chronicle: > > Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they > made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. > 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades > and market data. > > The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose > identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance > knowledge of the strikes. > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and > run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever > did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. > > "This smells real bad." > > The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the > purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be > picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the account > has been frozen. > > The markets were closed for four days after the attack, giving > investigators time to notice the anomalous trades. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see the photo that I posted, Judy? I think that says alot more about you than anything. I posted the photo that I did because the very fact that this particular person is ALLOWED to be a member of the Democratic Party says oodles about liberals: they are sympathetic to anti-semites and racists. Had Robert Byrd -- a white Democrat -- been in the news as of late, I would have put his photo on there. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side > of the aisle. > > On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives > and one Democratic senator. > > Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights for > > gays > > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I don't > > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, etc. > > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > > marriage, actually. > > > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays > > than the Christian Fundies? > > My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike > the fundies. > So, you guess that he's for gay marriage? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
Rick, this is one of the most thoughtful analyses I've read in a while...Western life is full of ironies, not the least is that while claiming to be a "religious" nation, the US kills others and neglects its own in far greater numbers than any other industrialized nation. Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote: He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, burdened with too much choice. "It is fascinating. In the West, you have bigger homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet you never seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet you don't bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors," he said.
[FairfieldLife] Re: 'The Agony of War on Children'
Life was SO wonderful in Iraq before the evil Americans showed up. [from "Team America: World Police"...I think it is the Sean Penn character who is speaking:] Before Team America showed up, it was a happy place. They had flowery meadows and rainbow skies and rivers made of chocolate, where the children danced and laughed and played with gumdrop smiles. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Robert Gimbel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Fri Mar 31, 12:08 PM ET > > BAGHDAD (AFP) - For 12-year-old Iraqi Sarah al-Jamal, the world as she knew it ended the day her father was shot dead in front of her eyes. > > Once bright, talkative and a top student, Sarah is now one of the growing number ofIraq children traumatized by the conflict and who can no longer deal with the daily reality of life in Iraq's battered capital. > "She suffers from constant nervous breakdowns and starts screaming hysterically when she sees a policeman or a soldier," said Hussein Ali Mohsen, the director Al-Rajaa Institute for Special Needs. "Her mental status is no longer stable and she cannot concentrate on her studies. > "The death of her father in front of her eyes has changed the girl into another person." > Mohsen's school was founded back in 1968 and once just welcomed developmentally challenged children, mostly with Down's Syndrome, but since April 2003, the facility has opened its doors to children scarred by Baghdad's harsh post-war realities. > "We have been in a state of war for the past three years and the cases of children suffering from nervous breakdowns are increasing," Mohsen said. > So far, the school has five students like Sarah, while the rest of the 70 pupils have Down Syndrome. > "There are definitely many more cases out there, but because of tradition and society most of the families prefer to keep them indoors. We never know about them until they approach us," added Mohsen. > The war is hard on all of the institute's children. The simple passage of helicopters criss-crossing Baghdad's skies can spread panic and sow fear among the pupils. > "With every bomb that explodes and every helicopter flying over head, we have chaos in the school," Mohsen said. > When this happens, the school's dedicated corps of 10 teachers swing into action and try to distract the children from their fears with toys or leading them in a familiar song or dance. > Sometimes, it's just a matter of reading them a story. > "We do everything for these children," said teacher Hayat al- Khafaji. "We sacrifice our time and now we risk our lives to teach them." > For salaries ranging from 70 dollars to 330 dollars (60 to 275 euros) a month, the teachers navigate their way daily through the city's dangerous streets to teach the children. > The school looks to provide their students with the basic skills they need to survive in life, including reading and writing, as well as lessons on how to interact with others. > "The children at the institute learn how to use computers and we try to help them with what materials we have," said Khafaji. > Next to her a young girl with Down Syndrome sits in front of a computer screen featuring simple, colorful programs. > When the Down Syndrome students reach the age of 17, they are placed at "rehabilitation" schools established years ago by the labor ministry to teach them trades so that they can make a living. "Girls continue learning how to use computers or sewing, while boys learn trades such as carpentry or mechanics. It's all so that they can earn money when they become adults," Khafafi added. For Umm Abdallah, however, the institute's modest means are not enough for her child traumatized by the war and she laments their lack of resources and unimaginative teaching methods. "The institute doesn't even have a swing in its garden for the children to play on," she said. "No one cares anymore and the way they teach the children is outdated!" For her, the daily crises of life only seem to be getting worse. "No one escapes from the agony of this war. Even these children who do not understand what is happening are suffering," she said. > > > - > Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1090580 208105680.xml > > SEC probe finds no evidence of Sept. 11 terrorist trade schemes > Friday, July 23, 2004 > Associated Press > > Washington- After an extensive investigation, the government has > found no evidence that terrorists tried to profit from stock and > options trading before the Sept. 11 attacks, the Securities and > Exchange Commission said Thursday. (Interesting "edit" of what the SEC said: "terrorists" versus "anyone who had advance knowledge." Is the AP, like Shemp, unable to imagine even the possibility of advanced knowledge of the attacks on the part of anyone but the terrorists themselves?) > "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence > suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 > attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC said. That's nice, but I'd prefer to hear this from an organization not under the thumb of the administration. (Shemp will again accuse me of claiming the administration dunnit. That's because his imagination is even more limited than that of AP.) And did the SEC investigate *all* the following unusual trading? > > There was unusual trading in the stock of firms whose > > offices were in the World Trade Center, including Morgan > > Stanley, Lehman Bros., Bank of America, and Marsh & > > McLennan; insurance companies Munich Re (Germany) and AXA > > Group (France), which combined were on the hook for about > > $2 billion in damages from the attacks, as well as American > > International Group, Swiss Reinsurance, Chubb, Cigna, CNA > > Financial, John Hancock, and MetLife; plus General Motors, > > Raytheon, Continental, Delta, Northwest, Southwest, > > USAirways, Boeing, Lockheed Martin, and Citigroup (38 > > companies in all); there was also a surge in the purchase > > of five-year Treasury notes and unusual movement in gold > > and oil prices. And what about the $2.5 million gain that hadn't been claimed as of September 29, 2001? Did anybody investigate that? *Was* it claimed subsequently? (Can somebody explain to me how a trader could have made $2.5 million and nobody would know who it belonged to unless it was claimed? I'm still wondering about who has the information on who traded what, and what it would take to pry it loose.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights > for > > > gays > > > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I > don't > > > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, > etc. > > > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > > > marriage, actually. > > > > > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > > > > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays > > > than the Christian Fundies? > > > > My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike > > the fundies. > > > > So, you guess that he's for gay marriage? Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see > the photo that I posted, Judy? > > I think that says alot more about you than anything. No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you. > > I posted the photo that I did because the very fact that this > particular person is ALLOWED to be a member of the Democratic Party > says oodles about liberals: they are sympathetic to anti-semites and > racists. > > Had Robert Byrd -- a white Democrat -- been in the news as of late, > I would have put his photo on there. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > Right, Congress is lily-white on the Republican side > > of the aisle. > > > > On the Democratic side, there are 42 black representatives > > and one Democratic senator. > > > > Guess that's why you're not a Democrat, huh, Shemp? > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? And since when does one person make up an entire party? Sal On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see > the photo that I posted, Judy? > > I think that says alot more about you than anything. No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rick, this is one of the most thoughtful analyses I've read in a > while...Western life is full of ironies, not the least is that while > claiming to be a "religious" nation, the US kills others and neglects > its own in far greater numbers than any other industrialized nation. ...yet the Dalai Lama's own negligence contributed to 1.5 million of his own people being murdered by the Chinese communists and the millions that were left had their religion, culture and way of life decimated. > > Sal > > > On Apr 3, 2006, at 11:36 AM, Rick Archer wrote: > > > He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self- absorbed, > > burdened with too much choice. "It is fascinating. In the West, you > > have bigger homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences > > -- yet you never seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the > > world, yet you don't bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors," > > he said. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > > http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1090580 > 208105680.xml > > > > SEC probe finds no evidence of Sept. 11 terrorist trade schemes > > Friday, July 23, 2004 > > Associated Press > > > > Washington- After an extensive investigation, the government has > > found no evidence that terrorists tried to profit from stock and > > options trading before the Sept. 11 attacks, the Securities and > > Exchange Commission said Thursday. > > > "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence > > suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 > > attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC said. > > That's nice, but I'd prefer to hear this from an > organization not under the thumb of the administration. Beyond just declaring it is so, you will have to make an actual case that SEC is under the administrations thumb, or that the admin influenced the report, before using it as a credible argument. > > And did the SEC investigate *all* the following > unusual tradinng. Its not clear. They may have. I am looking for the full report. > > And what about the $2.5 million gain that hadn't been > claimed as of September 29, 2001? Did anybody > investigate that? *Was* it claimed subsequently? > > (Can somebody explain to me how a trader could have > made $2.5 million and nobody would know who it > belonged to unless it was claimed? I'm still wondering > about who has the information on who traded what, > and what it would take to pry it loose.) Can anyone explain how someone can set up a brokerage account in America without a named account? Can anyone explain to Judy that most investors and traders don't close their accounts after each trade. They usually keep them open for many years, and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their investments for decades. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal rights > > for > > > > gays > > > > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I > > don't > > > > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for gays, > > etc. > > > > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > > > > marriage, actually. > > > > > > > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > > > > > > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for gays > > > > than the Christian Fundies? > > > > > > My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike > > > the fundies. > > > > > > > So, you guess that he's for gay marriage? > > Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays. Well, actually, you said that you "guess" he's for it. Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is NOT for it. Who do you think is right, me or you? > > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. > And > since when does one person make up an entire party? One person makes up an entire party when the other members of the party are silent on her racism and anti-semitism. > > Sal > > > On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:35 PM, authfriend wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > Why is race the first thing that pops into your mind when you see > > > the photo that I posted, Judy? > > > > > > I think that says alot more about you than anything. > > > > No, Shemp, it says a lot about what I know about you. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark 'Check this out/New Stuff on 9/11' - Options stuff
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "markmeredith2002" > wrote: > > > PS - it's really stupid to try to profit from inside knowledge > > about 9/11 by trading specific company options where you would > > really stand out - you should just short s&p futures where you get > > leverage but can hide in the large volume crowd. > > That may be the best argument yet against these > anomalies having anything to do with 9/11. I am glad it only took two days for this to sink in. (I posted the same thought on Saturday.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] No, THIS one is more worthy of Dr. Pete's attention
I just received this one. I can smell "wire transfer" in her next e-mail (if I were to respond. ) Hello How are u doing i saw ur profile and loved it i am Chika Powell 29 f Single and Looking for a Serious Relationship i am Not in the state Right now i am Currently in west africa Nigeria i came Down here for some Reasons i Lost My Father on January 5th 2006 so i came down to Africa Nigeria for some Family Reason But would be Back as soon as Possible i am The Only Child Of My Dad and i need to be there for His Funeral Ceremony. i would love to get to know u better . i like reading Dancing tennis Playing Movie watching Swimming Camping. i am looking for someone that beleives in true Love , someone who is willing to share ..someone sweet,someone that would appreciate a nice kiss early in the morning ,that would appreciate being dressed up for work in the morning and breakfast in the morning ,someone that would respect me and understand me ...be there for me ..someone that would appreciate a nice phone call at work when you tell him you were thinking about him and missing him so much ...just wanted to hear his sweet voice ...someone that is drama free ..thats be kind of person Someone in my heart beyond all my pride,Holds a secret desire so intense deep inside.Imprisoned with all my passion and love,Unknown to anyone but the lord up above. A desire for someone to cherish and hold,The need for love to call my own.Someone who keeps me shining day and night,Someone to kiss and make up with after a fight.Someone who appreciates and respects all I can be,Someone whos strong enough to commit and love only me.Someone who will be there to kiss away my tears,Secure my doubts and release my fears.Someone who can restore my faith in love once again. i am looking for ..if you are that someone pls let me know and if you have a yahoo messanger we can chat on there i am [EMAIL PROTECTED] or hotmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] hope to hear from you soon Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > > > http://www.cleveland.com/news/plaindealer/index.ssf?/base/news/1090580 > > 208105680.xml > > > > > > SEC probe finds no evidence of Sept. 11 terrorist trade schemes > > > Friday, July 23, 2004 > > > Associated Press > > > > > > Washington- After an extensive investigation, the government has > > > found no evidence that terrorists tried to profit from stock and > > > options trading before the Sept. 11 attacks, the Securities and > > > Exchange Commission said Thursday. > > > > > "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence > > > suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. 11 > > > attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC said. > > > > That's nice, but I'd prefer to hear this from an > > organization not under the thumb of the administration. > > Beyond just declaring it is so, you will have to make an actual case > that SEC is under the administrations thumb, or that the admin > influenced the report, before using it as a credible argument. > > > > > And did the SEC investigate *all* the following > > unusual tradinng. > > Its not clear. They may have. I am looking for the full report. > > > > > > And what about the $2.5 million gain that hadn't been > > claimed as of September 29, 2001? Did anybody > > investigate that? *Was* it claimed subsequently? > > > > (Can somebody explain to me how a trader could have > > made $2.5 million and nobody would know who it > > belonged to unless it was claimed? I'm still wondering > > about who has the information on who traded what, > > and what it would take to pry it loose.) > > Can anyone explain how someone can set up a brokerage account in > America without a named account? > > Can anyone explain to Judy that most investors and traders don't > close their accounts after each trade. They usually keep them open > for many years, and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their > investments for decades. I don't need an explanation for any of this, thank you so much. It's not what I was asking about. >From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before but apparently not read by you): Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades and market data. The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance knowledge of the strikes. "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. "This smells real bad." The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the account has been frozen. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence > > > > suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. > > > > 11 attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC > > > > said. > > > > > > That's nice, but I'd prefer to hear this from an > > > organization not under the thumb of the administration. > > > > Beyond just declaring it is so, you will have to make an actual > > case that SEC is under the administrations thumb, or that the > > admin influenced the report, before using it as a credible > > argument. Since I wasn't using it as an argument, merely stating my preference, I don't have to do anything. But out of the kindness of my heart, for anyone who has been living in a cave for the past several years: http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1816 That's just a taste; there's plenty more along the same lines. > > > And what about the $2.5 million gain that hadn't been > > > claimed as of September 29, 2001? Did anybody > > > investigate that? *Was* it claimed subsequently? > > > > > > (Can somebody explain to me how a trader could have > > > made $2.5 million and nobody would know who it > > > belonged to unless it was claimed? I'm still wondering > > > about who has the information on who traded what, > > > and what it would take to pry it loose.) > > > > Can anyone explain how someone can set up a brokerage account in > > America without a named account? > > > > Can anyone explain to Judy that most investors and traders don't > > close their accounts after each trade. They usually keep them open > > for many years, and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their > > investments for decades. > > I don't need an explanation for any of this, thank > you so much. It's not what I was asking about. > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > but apparently not read by you): > > Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they > made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. > 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades > and market data. > > The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose > identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance > knowledge of the strikes. > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and > run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. "Whoever > did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. > > "This smells real bad." > > The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the > purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could > be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the > account has been frozen. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > but apparently not read by you): Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? > Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits they > made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the Sept. > 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the trades > and market data. > > The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose > identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had advance > knowledge of the strikes. > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and > run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in their accounts for decades. > "This smells real bad." To a fool, perhaps. > The source and others in the financial industry still unnamed, > speculate that the > purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could > be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the > account has been frozen. And they are fools for speculating this. Here is another unnamed source with a contrary view. "Some cite an alleged occurance of a $2.5 million gain that hadn't been claimed as of September 29, 2001. And that the owner of account is unknown. While, this may indicate some inside knowldge of 9/11, by itself, its a weak case. Setting up (all or most) brokerage account in the US requires a named account, with much identifying information, including addresss, ss # etc. I assume the securities firm are required to do some cross checks to verify the information -- perhaps readers can confirm this. And deposits need to come from named accounts -- the same name as the account holder. So it appears implausible that investigators cannot trace the owner of the account. Further, most investors and traders don't close their accounts after each trade. They usually keep the same account(s) open for many years, and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their investments for decades. So the non-withdrawl of profits in this case is the same for millions of other brokerage accounts." http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ Sometimes one has to use real world experience and rational thinking and weed out unsubstantiated news reports and not take every newspaper article as the gospel. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > wrote: > > > > I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? > > > > > > No, there was no caption. > > In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for > itself. > > I was wrong. > > The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, > like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic > Party. > Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into silence would necessarily be...). So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the Democrats? Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything alright again? Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that every sector of the country is in? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > "In the course of that review, we did not develop any evidence > > > > > suggesting that anyone who had advance knowledge of the Sept. > > > > > 11 attacks traded on the basis of that information," the SEC > > > > > said. > > > > > > > > That's nice, but I'd prefer to hear this from an > > > > organization not under the thumb of the administration. > > > > > > Beyond just declaring it is so, you will have to make an actual > > > case that SEC is under the administrations thumb, or that the > > > admin influenced the report, before using it as a credible > > > argument. > > Since I wasn't using it as an argument, merely stating > my preference, I don't have to do anything. > > But out of the kindness of my heart, for anyone who > has been living in a cave for the past several years: > > http://www.citizen.org/pressroom/release.cfm?ID=1816 > > That's just a taste; there's plenty more along the > same lines. I guess Janet Reno was under the then Clinton Administration thumb when she approved all of Kenneth Starr's requests for prosecutions under the MonicaGate scandal... > > > > > > And what about the $2.5 million gain that hadn't been > > > > claimed as of September 29, 2001? Did anybody > > > > investigate that? *Was* it claimed subsequently? > > > > > > > > (Can somebody explain to me how a trader could have > > > > made $2.5 million and nobody would know who it > > > > belonged to unless it was claimed? I'm still wondering > > > > about who has the information on who traded what, > > > > and what it would take to pry it loose.) > > > > > > Can anyone explain how someone can set up a brokerage account in > > > America without a named account? > > > > > > Can anyone explain to Judy that most investors and traders don't > > > close their accounts after each trade. They usually keep them > open > > > for many years, and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their > > > investments for decades. > > > > I don't need an explanation for any of this, thank > > you so much. It's not what I was asking about. > > > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > but apparently not read by you): > > > > Investors have yet to collect more than $2.5 million in profits > they > > made trading options in the stock of United Airlines before the > Sept. > > 11 terrorist attacks, according to a source familiar with the > trades > > and market data. > > > > The uncollected money raises suspicions that the investors -- whose > > identities and nationalities have not been made public -- had > advance > > knowledge of the strikes. > > > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money > and > > run," said the source, who spoke on condition of > anonymity. "Whoever > > did this thought the exchange would not be closed for four days. > > > > "This smells real bad." > > > > The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the > > purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could > > be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure, or that the > > account has been frozen. > > > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a > caption? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, there was no caption. > > > > In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for > > itself. > > > > I was wrong. > > > > The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, > > like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic > > Party. > > > Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously > compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into > silence would necessarily be...). > > So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously > the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the > Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the > Democrats? > > Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it > is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything > alright again? > > Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that > every sector of the country is in? Careful, Jim. You don't want to get on Barry's list of people who argue about politics because they have no spiritual experiences to report. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > wrote: > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > but apparently not read by you): > > Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from > unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? If I had, why would I suggest you hadn't read it? > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money > > and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. > > Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in their > accounts for decades. I very seriously doubt anybody keeps $2.5 million just sitting, uninvested, in their account. But in any case, it appears to me as though the source is talking about those who profit illegally from insider info--"Take the money and run" before anybody notices. > Here is another unnamed source with a contrary view. > > "Some cite an alleged occurance of a $2.5 million gain that hadn't > been claimed as of September 29, 2001. And that the owner of > account is unknown. > > While, this may indicate some inside knowldge of 9/11, by itself, > its a weak case. Setting up (all or most) brokerage account in the > US requires a named account, with much identifying information, > including addresss, ss # etc. I assume the securities firm are > required to do some cross checks to verify the information -- > perhaps readers can confirm this. And deposits need to come from > named accounts -- the same name as the account holder. So it > appears implausible that investigators cannot trace the owner of > the account. Did somebody say investigators could not trace the owner of the account? Or did you make that up? > Further, most investors and traders don't close their accounts after > each trade. Did somebody suggest they did? Or did you make that up? They usually keep the same account(s) open for many years, > and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their investments for > decades. So the non-withdrawl of profits in this case is the same > for millions of other brokerage accounts." > > http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ > > Sometimes one has to use real world experience and rational thinking > and weed out unsubstantiated news reports and not take every > newspaper article as the gospel. Actually, real-world experience and rational thinking would suggest that virtually nobody leaves $2.5 million sitting uninvested for decades. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine > > wrote: > > > > > > I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a > caption? > > > > > > > > > > > > No, there was no caption. > > > > In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for > > itself. > > > > I was wrong. > > > > The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, > > like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic > > Party. > > > Why the pokes at the Democratic Party? They have been rediculously > compliant with every one of Bush's moves (as anyone bribed into > silence would necessarily be...). > > So, if they are pretty ineffectual these days, which is obviously > the case, and the Republicans are in charge of the Presidency, the > Congress, and the Supreme Court, what's the problem with the > Democrats? > > Do you honestly think the Democratic Party, weak and impotent as it > is, still must change in some way shape or form to make everything > alright again? > > Where does the real responsibility currently lie for the mess that > every sector of the country is in? > I'm no big fan or defender of the Republican party but please name each sector you're referring to and why each is in the mess you claim it is in... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal > rights > > > for > > > > > gays > > > > > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I > > > don't > > > > > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for > gays, > > > etc. > > > > > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > > > > > marriage, actually. > > > > > > > > > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > > > > > > > > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for > gays > > > > > than the Christian Fundies? > > > > > > > > My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike > > > > the fundies. > > > > > > > > > > So, you guess that he's for gay marriage? > > > > Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays. > > > > Well, actually, you said that you "guess" he's for it. > > Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is NOT > for it. > > Who do you think is right, me or you? "The religious leader said at the press conference that he had previously been asked his views on gay marriage, and said that such social sanction of gay relationships "has to be judged in the context of the society itself and the laws and social norms." During the 45-minute meeting, the Nobel peace laureate and Buddhist religious leader voiced his support for the full recognition of human rights for all people, regardless of sexual orientation. Buddhist sexual proscriptions ban homosexual sexual activity and heterosexual sex through orifices other than the vagina, including masturbation or other sexual activity with the hand. Buddhist proscriptions also forbid sex at certain times - such as during full and half moon days, the daytime, and during a wife's menstrual period or pregnancy - or near shrines or temples. Adultery is considered sexual misconduct, but the hiring of a female prostitute for penile-vaginal sex is not, unless one pays a third party to procure the person. >From a "Buddhist point of view," lesbian and gay sex "is generally considered sexual misconduct," the Dalai Lama told reporters at a press conference a day earlier. However, such proscriptions are for members of the Buddhist faith - and from "society's viewpoint," homosexual sexual relations can be "of mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless," according to the Dalai Lama." http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > > wrote: > > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > > but apparently not read by you): > > > > Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from > > unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? > > If I had, why would I suggest you hadn't read it? > > > > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money > > > and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. > > > > Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in their > > accounts for decades. > > I very seriously doubt anybody keeps $2.5 million > just sitting, uninvested, in their account. That's because you have no experience with the real world. I do estate planning. I often see investors keep hundreds of thousands of dollars uninvested in their accounts. It is usually parked in a money market account. This is often done by investors who have, perhaps, cashed out of bonds or equities because they feel that particular market is going to go down, so they park it in their money market account so that it at least draws some interest. They then will reinvest it if they feel the market will make a move upwards. > > But in any case, it appears to me as though the source > is talking about those who profit illegally from > insider info--"Take the money and run" before anybody > notices. > > > > Here is another unnamed source with a contrary view. > > > > "Some cite an alleged occurance of a $2.5 million gain that hadn't > > been claimed as of September 29, 2001. And that the owner of > > account is unknown. > > > > While, this may indicate some inside knowldge of 9/11, by itself, > > its a weak case. Setting up (all or most) brokerage account in the > > US requires a named account, with much identifying information, > > including addresss, ss # etc. I assume the securities firm are > > required to do some cross checks to verify the information -- > > perhaps readers can confirm this. And deposits need to come from > > named accounts -- the same name as the account holder. So it > > appears implausible that investigators cannot trace the owner of > > the account. > > Did somebody say investigators could not trace > the owner of the account? Or did you make that up? > > > Further, most investors and traders don't close their accounts after > > each trade. > > Did somebody suggest they did? Or did you make that up? > > They usually keep the same account(s) open for many years, > > and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their investments for > > decades. So the non-withdrawl of profits in this case is the same > > for millions of other brokerage accounts." > > > > http://911-stock-anomolies.blogspot.com/ > > > > Sometimes one has to use real world experience and rational thinking > > and weed out unsubstantiated news reports and not take every > > newspaper article as the gospel. > > Actually, real-world experience and rational thinking > would suggest that virtually nobody leaves $2.5 million > sitting uninvested for decades. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, t3rinity <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > > > > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would assume that he wasn't opposed to equal > > rights > > > > for > > > > > > gays > > > > > > > > > > (Maybe he's along the lines of the Christian > > > > > > > > > > fundamentalist "love the sinner but hate the sin", I > > > > don't > > > > > > > > > > know). > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > But they're opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If by "equal rights for gays" you mean marriage for > > gays, > > > > etc. > > > > > > > > then, yes, they are opposed to equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > They're opposed to a lot more rights for gays than just > > > > > > > marriage, actually. > > > > > > > > > > > > And what about the Dalia Lama? > > > > > > > > > > > > Would you suppose he is opposed to MORE or LESS rights for > > gays > > > > > > than the Christian Fundies? > > > > > > > > > > My guess is he's for equal rights for gays, unlike > > > > > the fundies. > > > > > > > > > > > > > So, you guess that he's for gay marriage? > > > > > > Hmm, I think I said he was for equal rights for gays. > > > > > > > > Well, actually, you said that you "guess" he's for it. > > > > Okay, well I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that he is NOT > > for it. > > > > Who do you think is right, me or you? > > > "The religious leader said at the press conference that he had > previously been asked his views on gay marriage, and said that such > social sanction of gay relationships "has to be judged in the context > of the society itself and the laws and social norms." Then according to the above, he would be against it in America because the laws prohibit it. > > During the 45-minute meeting, the Nobel peace laureate and Buddhist > religious leader voiced his support for the full recognition of human > rights for all people, regardless of sexual orientation. > > Buddhist sexual proscriptions ban homosexual sexual activity and > heterosexual sex through orifices other than the vagina, including > masturbation or other sexual activity with the hand. Buddhist > proscriptions also forbid sex at certain times - such as during full > and half moon days, the daytime, and during a wife's menstrual period > or pregnancy - or near shrines or temples. Adultery is considered > sexual misconduct, but the hiring of a female prostitute for > penile-vaginal sex is not, unless one pays a third party to procure > the person. > > From a "Buddhist point of view," lesbian and gay sex "is generally > considered sexual misconduct," the Dalai Lama told reporters at a > press conference a day earlier. > > However, such proscriptions are for members of the Buddhist faith - > and from "society's viewpoint," homosexual sexual relations can be "of > mutual benefit, enjoyable, and harmless," according to the Dalai Lama." > http://quietmountain.org/links/teachings/gayrites.htm > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > > > > wrote: > > > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > > > but apparently not read by you): > > > > > > Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from > > > unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? > > > > If I had, why would I suggest you hadn't read it? > > > > > > > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the > > > > money and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of > > > > anonymity. > > > > > > Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in > > > their accounts for decades. > > > > I very seriously doubt anybody keeps $2.5 million > > just sitting, uninvested, in their account. > > That's because you have no experience with the real world. > > I do estate planning. I often see investors keep hundreds of > thousands of dollars uninvested in their accounts. > > It is usually parked in a money market account. > > This is often done by investors who have, perhaps, cashed out of > bonds or equities because they feel that particular market is going > to go down, so they park it in their money market account so that > it at least draws some interest. > > They then will reinvest it if they feel the market will make a move > upwards. However, I was talking about parking *$2.5 million*, not hundreds of thousands, for *decades*, not for a few months or even a few years. And there's no indication this money had been invested in a money-market account. Plus which, we're talking about a windfall purportedly made on the basis of insider information about a coming disaster that would kill people, which is obviously a criminal act. So your response is--once again--a non sequitur. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Join modern day disciples reach the disfigured and poor with hope and healing http://us.click.yahoo.com/lMct6A/Vp3LAA/i1hLAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > > wrote: > > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > > but apparently not read by you): > > > > Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from > > unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? > > If I had, why would I suggest you hadn't read it? > > > > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money > > > and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of anonymity. > > > > Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in their > > accounts for decades. > > I very seriously doubt anybody keeps $2.5 million > just sitting, uninvested, in their account. Well you are quite the non-worldy fool then. > But in any case, it appears to me as though the source > is talking about those who profit illegally from > insider info--"Take the money and run" before anybody > notices. Lynne Howard, a spokeswoman for the Chicago Board Options Exchange (CBOE), stated that information about who made the trades was available immediately. "We would have been aware of any unusual activity right away. It would have been triggered by any unusual volume. There is an automated system called 'blue sheeting,' or the CBOE Market Surveillance System, that everyone in the business knows about. It provides information on the trades - the name and even the Social Security number on an account - and these surveillance systems are set up specifically to look into insider trading. The system would look at the volume, and then a real person would take over and review it, going back in time and looking at other unusual activity." http://tbrnews.org/Archives/a048.htm And its quite hard to do so anonomously. Next to impossible. > > > > Here is another unnamed source with a contrary view. > > > > "Some cite an alleged occurance of a $2.5 million gain that hadn't > > been claimed as of September 29, 2001. And that the owner of > > account is unknown. > > > > While, this may indicate some inside knowldge of 9/11, by itself, > > its a weak case. Setting up (all or most) brokerage account in the > > US requires a named account, with much identifying information, > > including addresss, ss # etc. I assume the securities firm are > > required to do some cross checks to verify the information -- > > perhaps readers can confirm this. And deposits need to come from > > named accounts -- the same name as the account holder. So it > > appears implausible that investigators cannot trace the owner of > > the account. > > Did somebody say investigators could not trace > the owner of the account? Or did you make that up? "The source and others in the financial industry speculate that the purchaser or purchasers -- having initially assumed the money could be picked up without detection -- now fear exposure" [Judy's post] I realize one has to use a modest amount of brain power here. Sorry its over your head. Let me spell it out for you,step by step. 1) The unnamed sources speculated that the investors, by, withdrawing the money would reveal their idnetities. 2) This is a silly argument in that the account owners in the US are easily traced. See CBOT above 3) The implied assumption of the unnamed sources was that #2 was not true ---investigators could not trace the owner of the account. OK. Clear now? > > Further, most investors and traders don't close their accounts after > > each trade. > > Did somebody suggest they did? Or did you make that up? "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the money and run," [Judy's post] Taking the money and running is essentially closing out the account. If it has a zero balance it is often shutdown within months. > They usually keep the same account(s) open for many years, > > and often don't withdraw the proceeds of their investments for > > decades. So the non-withdrawl of profits in this case is the same > > for millions of other brokerage accounts." To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Mark Meredith, please comment
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anony_sleuth_ff > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > From the SF Chronicle, September 29, 2001 (posted before > > > > > but apparently not read by you): > > > > > > > > Yes I read it. I commented on it. It unsubstantiated crap from > > > > unnamed sources. Didn't you get that the first time? > > > > > > If I had, why would I suggest you hadn't read it? > > > > > > > > > > > "Usually, if someone has a windfall like that, you take the > > > > > money and run," said the source, who spoke on condition of > > > > > anonymity. > > > > > > > > Which is crap. millions of investors keep their windfalls in > > > > their accounts for decades. > > > > > > I very seriously doubt anybody keeps $2.5 million > > > just sitting, uninvested, in their account. > > > > That's because you have no experience with the real world. > > > > I do estate planning. I often see investors keep hundreds of > > thousands of dollars uninvested in their accounts. > > > > It is usually parked in a money market account. > > > > This is often done by investors who have, perhaps, cashed out of > > bonds or equities because they feel that particular market is going > > to go down, so they park it in their money market account so that > > it at least draws some interest. > > > > They then will reinvest it if they feel the market will make a move > > upwards. > > However, I was talking about parking *$2.5 million*, > not hundreds of thousands, for *decades*, not for a > few months or even a few years. > > And there's no indication this money had been invested > in a money-market account. > > Plus which, we're talking about a windfall purportedly > made on the basis of insider information about a coming > disaster that would kill people, which is obviously a > criminal act. Your references are not clear [to me] Are you saying that a windfall made on the basis of insider information about a coming disaster is a criminal act. I am not sure thats the case. Can you site the statute. Insider trading in their own stocks, based on non-public information of their stock, by principals in a public company is illegal. Insider trading in any stocks, based on non-public information of any stock, gained through their work, by US Senators and Congress persons, in any public company is CURRENTLY LEGAL. Insider trading in any stocks, based on non-public information of a pendng terror act, by anyoneis CURRENTLY LEGAL to my knowledge. Cite statue if I am not up to date on this. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
On Apr 3, 2006, at 12:58 PM, shempmcgurk wrote: No, there was no caption. In light of current events I thought the picture would speak for itself. I was wrong. The point was: this is a picture of a racist and anti-semite and, like former Klansman Robert Byrd, is a member of the Democratic Party. Oh. Is she an elected representative? > And > since when does one person make up an entire party? One person makes up an entire party when the other members of the party are silent on her racism and anti-semitism. Maybe they don't know it exists.And while one person can be representative of a group, they cannot make up a group on their own. Two entirely different things, Shemp. Sal
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism[Shemp]
Would you please elaborate on this ShempMcGurk.?? Five years of Indo-Chinese friendship ended when Dalai Lama came to India. China wanted Dalai Lama back, but India refused. The 1962 war, in the words of the Chinese Leadership, was "To Teach India a Lesson." In the 1950's, indian generals did warn that the North-East defence was weak, but the Indian government under Nehru did not take it seriously. In 1962, Chinese came down the Mountains with their Guns blazing and it sent india into a blue funk. India was growing very fast at that time. I think India lost about 10 years of progress because of that war. Smarting under that 1962 defeat, Indian intelligence agency and the American intelligence CIA, got together and created a Indo-Tibetean border force, a secret espionage group consisting of Tibetean exiles. They sneaked into Tibet and gathered information and brought it back to indians and Americans. Even Chinese military bases were bugged and tapped by the CIA with the help of this force. But the real deal was the planting of a secret Nuclear-Spy device in the Nanda-Devi peak in the Hmalayas to evesdrop on the Chinese communication and monitor Missile launches etc. The device did a brilliant job. Relations between India and America soured in 1971. ShempMcGurk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 17:50:20 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc. ...yet the Dalai Lama's own negligence contributed to 1.5 million of his own people being murdered by the Chinese communists and the millions that were left had their religion, culture and way of life decimated. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
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[FairfieldLife] Re: No, THIS one is more worthy of Dr. Pete's attention
Ask her if she's related to Gen. Colin Powell.?? By her reply you can guess what she is up to. anony_sleuth_ff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 18:22:54 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] No, THIS one is more worthy of Dr. Pete's attention I just received this one. I can smell "wire transfer" in her next e-mail (if I were to respond. ) Hello How are u doing i saw ur profile and loved it i am Chika Powell 29 f Single and Looking for a Serious Relationship i am Not in the state Right now i am Currently in west africa Nigeria i came Down here for some Reasons i Lost My Father on January 5th 2006 so i came down to Africa Nigeria for some Family Reason But would be Back as soon as Possible i am The Only Child Of My Dad and i need to be there for HisFuneral Ceremony. i would love to get to know u better . i like reading Dancing tennis Playing Movie watching Swimming Camping. i am looking for someone that beleives in true Love , someone who is willing to share ..someone sweet,someone that would appreciate a nice kiss early in the morning ,that would appreciate being dressed up for work in the morning and breakfast in the morning ,someone that would respect me and understand me ...be there for me ..someone that wouldappreciate a nice phone call at work when you tell him you were thinking about him and missing him so much ...just wanted to hear his sweet voice ...someone that is drama free ..thats be kind of person Someone in my heart beyond all my pride,Holds a secret desire so intense deep inside.Imprisoned with all my passion and love,Unknown to anyone but the lord up above. A desire for someone to cherish and hold,The need for love to call my own.Someone who keeps me shining day and night,Someone to kiss and make up with after a fight.Someone who appreciates and respects all I can be,Someone whos strong enough to commit and love only me.Someone who will be there to kiss away my tears,Secure my doubts and release my fears.Someone who can restore my faith in love once again. i am looking for ..if you are that someone pls let me know and if you have a yahoo messanger we can chat on there i am [EMAIL PROTECTED] or hotmail [EMAIL PROTECTED] hope to hear from you soon Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: This is your Democratic Party
In a message dated 4/3/06 12:59:59 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:>> I don't understand the point of the picture. Was there a caption? heck, I didn't even get the picture! Who is it of? Is there web site where I can see it? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > So, is Tibetan Buddhism rife with homophobia because the Dali Lama makes public statements about it? The TM organization has never made a public statement about homosexuality that I am aware of, and Maharishi never has directed any video that includes such remarks to be distributed to TMers OR people on TTC or ATTC, or recertification, or whatever. > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer > wrote: > > > > LONDON, ENGLAND, March 31, 2006: The exiled Tibetan spiritual > leader told > > The Daily Telegraph that terrorists should be treated humanely. He > also > > revealed the workings of his relationship with US President George > W. Bush, > > said Westerners had become too self-absorbed and repeated his > opposition to > > homosexuality in a wide-ranging interview. The Dalai Lama said > modern > > terrorism was born out of jealousy of Western > lifestyles. "Fundamentalism is > > terrifying because it is based purely on emotion, rather than > intelligence," > > the 70-year-old monk said at the seat of his government-in-exile > in the > > northern Indian hilltop town of Dharamsala. "It prevents followers > from > > thinking as individuals and about the good of the world. "This new > terrorism > > has been brewing for many years. Much of it is caused by jealousy > and > > frustration at the West because it looks so highly developed and > successful > > on television. Leaders in the East use religion to counter that, > to bind > > these cou ntries together. " Terrorists, he warned, must be treated > > humanely. "Otherwise, the problem will escalate. If there is one > Bin Laden > > killed today, soon there will be 10 Bin Ladens. Awesome. Ten Bin > Ladens > > killed, the hatred is spread; 100 bombed, and 1,000 lose members > of their > > families." > > > > Although he appeared not to approve of the war in Iraq, he was > admiring of > > Bush. "He is very straightforward," said the monk. "On our first > visit, I > > was faced with a large plate of biscuits. President Bush > immediately offered > > me his favorites, and after that, we got on fine. On my next > visit, he > > didn't mind when I was blunt about the war. "By my third visit, I > was > > ushering him into the Oval Office. I was astonished by his grasp of > > Buddhism." > > > > He told the broadsheet that Westerners had become self-absorbed, > burdened > > with too much choice. "It is fascinating. In the West, you have > bigger > > homes, yet smaller families; you have endless conveniences -- yet > you never > > seem to have any time. You can travel anywhere in the world, yet > you don't > > bother to cross the road to meet your neighbors," he said. "I > don't think > > people have become more selfish, but their lives have become > easier and that > > has spoilt them. They have less resilience, they expect more, they > > constantly compare themselves to others and they have too much > choice -- > > which brings no real freedom." > > > > --From Hindu Press International, April 2, 2006 > > > > http://www.hinduismtoday/subscribe.html > > > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: The Real Issue with 9/11
Seen V for Vendetta? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Robert Gimbel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > The real issue with 9/11; is who was behind it, really. > > Besides the options market, who had something to gain? > > The event transformed Bush into: 'The War President'; > > Which in turn, provided almost unlimited powers for the President. > > As well as almost unlimited funds for the military. > > There will be as much controversy surrounding 9/11, for many years to > come; much as there has been since the assasination of John Kennedy. > > But in the end, the powers that be, seem to be able to control the > information, to the point, that the controversy should continue for > quite awhile. > > The scarey part is if there is another major attact, or even an > outbreak of flu; the government could turn very quickly turn to > martial law; with many in the military now, having experience with > urban warfare. > To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Dalai Lama Speaks on Dealing with Terrorism, etc.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shempmcgurk" > wrote: > > > > "...repeated his opposition to homosexuality..." > > > > I find this comment interesting because his most famous follower, > > Richard Gere, is an outspoken advocate for gay rights. > > Having only been around Maharishi, I guess you > might not have had much experience with working > with a spiritual teacher and not being expected > to agree with everything he says. > > :-) > Yeah, and MMY has always made a point of saying he's against homosexuality when he gets a chance to speak in public. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
