[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB no_reply@ wrote: Whatever. I think you just like to believe that I embellish because you chose to settle for a boring life. Oh, I'll readily admit to leading a boring life... But, hey, that's why you hep cats have the responsibility to those of us who live vicariously through you to be as truthful and as honest as you can in the stories that you relate to us 'cause it's all we losers have! I can recommend only that you read Road Trip Mind (http://www.ramalila.net/RoadTripMind). There is not a word of fiction in it. Everything described in that book took place exactly as described. But you won't believe it, and that's neither my fault, nor my business. As a writer or as someone on a spiritual path, I don't have to anchor myself to the limitations of others. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Unc, which one are you?
Unc (TurquoiseB) From the photos section To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Who's hotter: Vanessa Kerry or Jenna Bush?
Jenna might be at least wetter? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech! In Quebec
Quebec, IMAY NOT more proximately use English out side my store or in the window of my shop or on my restaurant menu for the language police will charge me with an offence against the language act !. The UN in part has supported my rights in part but the laws still enforced here is not free to speak WRITE in English Quebec To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
On Apr 28, 2006, at 11:38 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Sweetheart, Maybe you could follow mainsteams post better than I could. Doubtful. Half the discussions here get so convoluted, IMO, that often I just give up. Emily's name was mentioned as the sister of Toby, or so it seemed. She *is* the sister of Toby Leib. Just forget it. OK. But my post was half joking too. Guess it didn't come off that way. I hope everyone is alive and well. Mazel Tov, Yom Tov, Good Yontuf, and anything else which may apply. Amen. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? Can you tell me where I said anything about official policy, Shemp? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emily's name was mentioned as the sister of Toby, or so it seemed. She *is* the sister of Toby Leib. Sal, Help me out here. The Joyce Warwick I knew, must be about 46 now, had a brother named Charlie, who is married to a lady named Donna, who live in Champaign Il. Are you saying Joyce and Charlie have a sister named Toby, or I am messed up somewhere? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, lurkernomore20002000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote: Emily Warwick is not the sister of Charlie and Joyce Warwick. I think that she and Charlie may have dated briefly though. As far as I know they are not related to Charlie or Toby Leib. Emily's name was mentioned as the sister of Toby, or so it seemed. She *is* the sister of Toby Leib. Sal, Help me out here. The Joyce Warwick I knew, must be about 46 now, had a brother named Charlie, who is married to a lady named Donna, who live in Champaign Il. Are you saying Joyce and Charlie have a sister named Toby, or I am messed up somewhere? lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- action! I guess there's an advantage to the one-drop rule... Since ALL human beings share a common female ancestor, the one-drop rule is kinda silly... +++ Common ancestor? Is that a fact or opinion and, what color? N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
on 4/28/06 11:46 PM, lurkernomore20002000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick, I just turned 50, and maybe my mind is losing it's edge. It sounds like you are saying that Emily Warwick had a sister Toby, as in Toby Finebloom. But this is not right. Emily Warwick only had a brother, Charlie, as far as I know. Am I missing something? The Warwick sisters, Emily and Tobi, may have a brother named Charlie. I don't know. But Tobi had a husband named Charlie Lieb. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar?rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? Can you tell me where I said anything about official policy, Shemp? Who, then, were you speaking for when you made such a declaration? Oh, it wasn't the Left? You mean you were speaking just for yourself? Now I understand. Okay, so it was just like your mixed-up use of the word media. Thanks, I understand now. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- action! I guess there's an advantage to the one-drop rule... Since ALL human beings share a common female ancestor, the one-drop rule is kinda silly... +++ Common ancestor? Is that a fact or opinion and, what color? N. The book The 7 Daughters of Eve lays out the genetic argument that 95% of all people of white european ancestry descended from 7 women who left africa and settled elsewhere, I think about 45,000 yrs ago. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Look into Dr. Spencer Wells research on National Geographic channel. A single common ancestor in South-Africa 60,000 years ago. Colour Black, Negroid. https://www3.nationalgeographic.com/genographic/about.html At that time sea levels were 120 metres lower. From the tip of South-Africa to Australia to tip of South-America was one Unbroken Coast-Line. Genetic testing also show that Human population dwindled down to a few hundreds 70,000 years ago due to a drought. We were on the brink of extinction. All humans on the Earth today have decended from that 'Population-Bootleneck'.Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 14:37:28 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history+++ Common ancestor? Is that a fact or opinion and, what color? N. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The book The 7 Daughters of Eve lays out the genetic argument that 95% of all people of white european ancestry descended from 7 women who left africa and settled elsewhere, I think about 45,000 yrs ago. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0393323145/sr=8-1/qid=1146324757/ref=pd_bbs_1/104-1423200-8312725?%5Fencoding=UTF8 Reviewer: D. B. Gibbons (Holladay, UT United States) - See all Many scientists have things to say, but few know how to say them. The Stephen Hawkings (A Brief History of Time) and Brian Fagans (Famines, Floods and Emperors) of the world are rare creatures, indeed. In The Seven Daughters of Eve Bryan Sykes proves he belongs in that small but fortunate club. This work is a remarkably well written narrative of Sykes' cutting edge research into the ancestry of modern humans using mitochondrial DNA. Unlike the DNA in the chromosomes of cell nuclei, which we inherit from both of our parents, mitochondrial DNA is inherited only from our mothers. It is also highly stable over time, which permits geneticists to determine with almost mathematical certainty the matrilineal genealogy of any human being on earth. To students of history, prehistory, archaeology and linguistics the conclusions he draws from his research are absolutely stunning. First, he concludes that all modern humans (beyond reasonable mathematical certainty) are descended from a single woman - Sykes calls her, perhaps tongue in cheek, Mitochondrial Eve. Second, every person on earth is, in turn, the descendant of one of only 33 women, who were the matrilineal descendants of Eve. The book focuses on seven of these women who are the matrilineal ancestors of virtually every native European. These seven he calls, again perhaps tongue in cheek, The Daughters of Eve. Third, the oldest of the daughters of Eve lived only about 45,000 years ago, the youngest within the past 10,000 years. Some additional thoughts: 1. As with all knowledge, take this with a little grain of salt. Today's axioms in science may be disproved or reevaluated in a month, a year or a century. This is cutting edge stuff, and there are likely many surprises to come. 2. Sykes is at his descriptive best when dealing with the fascinating details of his own research and field work. His writing style breaks down somewhat when he attempts to write imaginative Clan of the Cave Bear-like chapters on the lives of the seven daughters of Eve. I skipped heavily in this section. 3. I am a little surprised to sense a commercial-like ambience on Sykes' website, oxfordancestors.com. For a fee his organization will test your DNA and tell you which daughter of Eve you are descended from. This doesn't exactly lead me to doubt his research, but confirms my suspicions that Sykes has many more skills as a writer and pitchman than most of his colleagues. 4. Don't be misled by the title - this is not your standard Sunday School or Bible Class religious tract. Those who believe that every word of the Bible - through all of the twists and turns of 3,000 years of copying, editing, compiling and translation - is infallible, will perhaps find their faith challenged. On the other hand, those who are not Bible literalists may find some edification here, as well. 7 of 9 people found the following review helpful: Sykes Theories are Flawed, February 14, 2006 Reviewer: Tonya Payne 3d animator - See all my reviews The first few chapters of this book were interesting and I really thought it was going to be a good book. It turned out to be a rather dull book with theories that go against logic and scientific research. First of all, Sykes drags out his personal struggles with other researchers in the middle of the book, which is where it gets really boring. I don't care about academic squabbles, I want to hear the facts. I wanted to read about the seven women who all Europeans are decended from. When I finally got to those chapters I was disappointed. Seriously, it was Cave Man fiction. If you want early human fiction, read Jean Auel. Basically, he made up stories about what life might have been like for these women, and put in absolutely no evidence from archaeologists or anthropologists to support his theories. Second of all, Sykes claims to be able to trace all of the migrations of humanity through Mitochondrial DNA. This is utter nonsense. Mitochondrial DNA, as Sykes admits, only traces one single line out of thousands upon thousands of your ancestors. It only traces your mother's mother's line. While Mitochondrial DNA can trace this line's migrations, there are thousands of other lines out there, and we cannot assume that the other ones followed the same migration route as that maternal line. To assume such things is not scientific. For example after ten generations you have a possible 1024 ancestors, after twenty generations you have a possible 1,048,576 ancestors. Of course some of these lines join back
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Good for Neil. But isn't it sad in a way that it takes someone our age to sing the songs that the young should be singing... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Good for Neil. But isn't it sad in a way that it takes someone our age to sing the songs that the young should be singing... Maybe they are smarter than their elders. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/29/06 10:40:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Genetic testing also show that Human population dwindled down to a few hundreds 70,000 years ago due to a drought. We were on the brink of extinction. All humans on the Earth today have decended from that 'Population-Bootleneck'. I saw this figure tossed about as being caused by a super volcano somewhere in Indonesia, whichcaused some kind of "nuclear" winter type event, no doubt droughts as well. The evidence of this particular volcano going off 70,000 years ago is evident today in the earth's crust. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
on 4/29/06 10:05 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 11:17:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues thanon bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) fordecades. Do you think maybe those sanctions should have been lifted once Hans Blix came to the conclusion there were no WMD's in Iraq, assuming Bush had not invaded Iraq? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? Can you tell me where I said anything about official policy, Shemp? Who, then, were you speaking for when you made such a declaration? Oh, it wasn't the Left? You mean you were speaking just for yourself? Now I understand. Okay, so it was just like your mixed-up use of the word media. Thanks, I understand now. Ya know, Shemp, you were just chiding Barry for embellishing. You ought to think about practicing what you preach, because you do almost as much fantasizing as he does. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, bmorry2000 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Emily Warwick is not the sister of Charlie and Joyce Warwick. I think that she and Charlie may have dated briefly though. As far as I know they are not related to Charlie or Toby Leib. Bill, Thank you. I am really dense. Of course. It is Joyce Warwick I am thinking of. Time does that I guess. I read Emily Warwick and recorded Joyce Warwick in my head. Do you know what Joyce Warwick might be doing now? Talk about a sweet person. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Warwick sisters, Emily and Tobi, may have a brother named Charlie. I don't know. But Tobi had a husband named Charlie Lieb. Thanks Rick. Bill's post straightened it out for me. lurk To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. Are you opposed to sanctions as a non- or less-violent alterntive to war? Or do you believe that Iraqi non-compliance with many UN sanctions were not worthy of international concern and action via the use of sanctions (instead of military action for 10 years)? Did you favor International sanctions of South Africa during apartheid? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:13:44 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA historyI saw this figure tossed about as being caused by a super volcano somewhere in Indonesia, whichcaused some kind of "nuclear" winter type event, no doubt droughts as well. The evidence of this particular volcano going off 70,000 years ago is evident today in the earth's crust. Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Good for Neil. But isn't it sad in a way that it takes someone our age to sing the songs that the young should be singing... How do you feel about U.S. military action in Darfur? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc, which one are you?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [http://us.a2.yahoofs.com/groups/g_3920196/4c65/__sr_/3439.jpg? grYF1UEB1\ IdPCsc_] Unc (TurquoiseB) From the photos section Can't see the photo you tried to post. My photo in the FFL Photos section is clearly labeled; assuming you can read, you should have no trouble figuring out which one it is. :-) That is, indeed, the photo I attempted to post here. But there were three figures in the photo, hense the question. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/29/06 10:05 AM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: TrueMajority is streaming Neil Young's new album, Living with War. You can also send a message to Congress telling them to require that the troops leave Iraq this year. I did it -- why don't you check it out? Here's the URL for the music and the action: http://action.truemajority.org/campaign/livingwithwar? rk=dd_pr0n1uRfSW Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. So, if I understand your yes above correctly, you would like the U.S. troops to go to Darfur and use military action there? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? Can you tell me where I said anything about official policy, Shemp? Who, then, were you speaking for when you made such a declaration? Oh, it wasn't the Left? You mean you were speaking just for yourself? Now I understand. Okay, so it was just like your mixed-up use of the word media. Thanks, I understand now. Ya know, Shemp, you were just chiding Barry for embellishing. You ought to think about practicing what you preach, because you do almost as much fantasizing as he does. We can reproduce the Wikipedia definitions of media here if you like, Judith (of course, in the context of your original post, not later posts, on the subject). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash. As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:13:44 EDT Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history I saw this figure tossed about as being caused by a super volcano somewhere in Indonesia, which caused some kind of nuclear winter type event, no doubt droughts as well. The evidence of this particular volcano going off 70,000 years ago is evident today in the earth's crust. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. PC-to-Phone calls for ridiculously low rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Unc, which one are you?
Unc (TurquoiseB) From the photos section Can't see the photo you tried to post. My photo in the FFL Photos section is clearly labeled; assuming you can read, you should have no trouble figuring out which one it is. :-) That is, indeed, the photo I attempted to post here. But there were three figures in the photo, hense the question. The young one is me. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 11:17:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. Do you think maybe those sanctions should have been lifted once Hans Blix came to the conclusion there were no WMD's in Iraq, assuming Bush had not invaded Iraq? >From what I read, the sanctions were easily bypassed by those with the money to do so, yet as imperfectly as they were enforced, perhaps that was the most effective way to contain such a regime. If in fact such containment was necessary for a second rate dictator, after we decimated his armed forces in 91. The LAST thing we should've done is declared war on Iraq. Very stupid, incompetent move. One of too many for Bush, a likeable guy in person no doubt, but aside from being a neocon's dream, has absolutely NO business as President...a real walking disaster. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Condom and Dirt - Found in Pepsi bottle
My dear unknown Virtual friend, The problem is with India's Political system. A rotten, dumb and stupid Political system. A real piece of shit system. India is a huge country. Don't get fooled by the Mercator Map. The Map creates spatial distortion and stretches out the regions in the poles and makes them loook larger. India is bigger than Alaska or Scandinavia. 50 years of Socialism and caste-based job reservations has frustrated the population and caused Brain-Drain. Even today, india has 300 million people living below poverty line. Corruption is open and brazenly done. My friend went to Kashi and he told me a frightening story. If you go on an boat ride on river Ganges, and if you happen to carry a lot of money or jewels, the scouts who watch you pass the information to the divers. They come swimming underwater and topple your boat and grab everything you have and allow you to drown,!! Few incidents like these have made even the pilgrims wary of taking a boat-ride in Kashi.ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:05:20 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Condom and Dirt - Found in Pepsi bottleAfter 5 weeks in India -- this was around '82 -- I remember that the only time I felt relaxed was when I boarded the Pan Am 747 and was sitting on the tarmac at Dehli airport. Although still in the country of India, I felt enveloped in the womb of western technology and felt completely protected. Ten, is that all? That is actually quite lower than I would think. Actually my comment was about how many people hustle a living in India. Tourists are a prime target. Ever been there? Almost every body you deal with looks at you like you are the bank and I'm gonna get some money! In Rishikesh, I had a Purusha warn me and a friend about a scam in New Delhi in Connaught Circle, where somebody flicks something on your shoe that looks like Bird Sh*t and then another guy runs up to you wanting to clean it off for a few rupees. Sure enough, my friend and I went through this particular place and a guy came running up to me and pointed out what looked like BS on my white shoes and asked to clean it off. I told him to get lost or I would call the police and that I was aware of the scam. This is just one scam . People are always looking for a way to squeeze a few rupees out of each tourist. If it was just an occasional thing it would be laughable, but it is non stop from the time you get off the plane till the time you get on to leave. Condom in the Pepsi bottle just makes me think the scam artists are setting their sites higher these days. Sue the Bastards! Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: was John Hagelynch - now Charlie Leib
Lurk, The three people you named below are, to my knowledge, not related to either the Toby or Emily we are talking about, nee Warwick, both of whom are sisters and do not, as far as I know, have any other siblings. Toby Warwick Lieb *was* married to a Charlie Lieb (and that's probably what's causing the confusion) who, as you must have gathered by now, died last year. As far as I know, neither she nor Emily are related to a Charlie, Donna, or Joyce Warwick (unless they're cousins or something.) Sal On Apr 29, 2006, at 8:52 AM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: Help me out here. The Joyce Warwick I knew, must be about 46 now, had a brother named Charlie, who is married to a lady named Donna, who live in Champaign Il. Are you saying Joyce and Charlie have a sister named Toby, or I am messed up somewhere?
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War on 4/29/06 11:28 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 11:17:31 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. Do you think maybe those sanctions should have been lifted once Hans Blix came to the conclusion there were no WMD's in Iraq, assuming Bush had not invaded Iraq? I think they shouldnt have been imposed in the first place. But Im not a politician or a diplomat. I dont have great certainty about my opinions in these matters. I just dont feel the US behaves compassionately in many instances. If it it, it would win more respect and appreciation in the world. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
I was reading somewhere, An old guy goes to a concert and at a particular number, he lights his Cigarette-Lighter and holds it up, then he turns around to see an entire young generation holding up their glowing Cell-phones.!! TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:01:41 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarGood for Neil. But isn't it sad in a way that ittakes someone our age to sing the songs that theyoung should be singing... Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
on 4/29/06 12:16 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. So, if I understand your yes above correctly, you would like the U.S. troops to go to Darfur and use military action there? Possibly, but I don't like playing arm chair politician. If I were in a position to totally immerse myself in these issues and had some influence on polity decisions, I might form an opinion very different than one I might shoot from the hip from my current perspective. In general though, I favor humanitarian over military action as an instrument of foreign policy. And in terms of the oil problem, I recommend we stop quibbling over insignificant resources such as The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and spending hundreds of billions on wars to secure oil we may never lay hands on, and shift the whole paradigm to energy independence. If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Condom and Dirt - Found in Pepsi bottle
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My dear unknown Virtual friend, The problem is with India's Political system. A rotten, dumb and stupid Political system. A real piece of shit system. India is a huge country. Don't get fooled by the Mercator Map. The Map creates spatial distortion and stretches out the regions in the poles and makes them loook larger. India is bigger than Alaska or Scandinavia. 50 years of Socialism Do you know how incredibly successful Indians are who come to America? Along with the Chinese, they are at the top of their classes...AND they fill up companies like Intel and Motorola and Microsoft. Have you heard the saying: Indians are successful everywhere except India. ? and caste-based job reservations has frustrated the population and caused Brain-Drain. Even today, india has 300 million people living below poverty line. Corruption is open and brazenly done. My friend went to Kashi and he told me a frightening story. If you go on an boat ride on river Ganges, and if you happen to carry a lot of money or jewels, the scouts who watch you pass the information to the divers. They come swimming underwater and topple your boat and grab everything you have and allow you to drown,!! Few incidents like these have made even the pilgrims wary of taking a boat-ride in Kashi. ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 00:05:20 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Condom and Dirt - Found in Pepsi bottle After 5 weeks in India -- this was around '82 -- I remember that the only time I felt relaxed was when I boarded the Pan Am 747 and was sitting on the tarmac at Dehli airport. Although still in the country of India, I felt enveloped in the womb of western technology and felt completely protected. Ten, is that all? That is actually quite lower than I would think. Actually my comment was about how many people hustle a living in India. Tourists are a prime target. Ever been there? Almost every body you deal with looks at you like you are the bank and I'm gonna get some money! In Rishikesh, I had a Purusha warn me and a friend about a scam in New Delhi in Connaught Circle, where somebody flicks something on your shoe that looks like Bird Sh*t and then another guy runs up to you wanting to clean it off for a few rupees. Sure enough, my friend and I went through this particular place and a guy came running up to me and pointed out what looked like BS on my white shoes and asked to clean it off. I told him to get lost or I would call the police and that I was aware of the scam. This is just one scam . People are always looking for a way to squeeze a few rupees out of each tourist. If it was just an occasional thing it would be laughable, but it is non stop from the time you get off the plane till the time you get on to leave. Condom in the Pepsi bottle just makes me think the scam artists are setting their sites higher these days. Sue the Bastards! - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 4/29/06 12:16 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. So, if I understand your yes above correctly, you would like the U.S. troops to go to Darfur and use military action there? Possibly, but I don't like playing arm chair politician. If I were in a position to totally immerse myself in these issues and had some influence on polity decisions, I might form an opinion very different than one I might shoot from the hip from my current perspective. In general though, I favor humanitarian over military action as an instrument of foreign policy. And in terms of the oil problem, I recommend we stop quibbling over insignificant resources such as The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and spending hundreds of billions on wars to secure oil we may never lay hands on, and shift the whole paradigm to energy independence. If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). Gee, is that the Rolling Stone cover story before or after their Britney Spears cover? Ya know, I don't think I depend on Rolling Stone for my political content... To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
on 4/29/06 1:06 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). Gee, is that the Rolling Stone cover story before or after their Britney Spears cover? Ya know, I don't think I depend on Rolling Stone for my political content... The article discusses the consensus of contemporary political historians. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. If in the future, Iraq becomes a prosperous democracy, the perspectives will change. Freedom comes often at the price of blood and nations should be willing to pay for it. WW2, Cold War, etc all came at the price of blood. Partition of india came at a heavy price of blood. 150,000 people were killed in the partition riots. A 100,000 women were raped during the Partition riots. Millions were uprooted from their homes and forced to go to the other side of the border. It was the biggest displacement exercise in History. Rick Archer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 12:58:48 -0500Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarPossibly, but I don't like playing arm chair politician. If I were in aposition to totally immerse myself in these issues and had some influence on polity decisions, I might form an opinion very different than one I might shoot from the hip from my current perspective. In general though, I favor humanitarian over military action as an instrument of foreign policy. And in terms of the oil problem, I recommend we stop quibbling over insignificant resources such as The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and spending hundreds of billions on wars to secure oil we may never lay hands on, and shift the whole paradigm to energy independence. If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. If in the future, Iraq becomes a prosperous democracy, the perspectives will change. Freedom comes often at the price of blood and nations should be willing to pay for it. WW2, Cold War, etc all came at the price of blood. snip You've got to be kidding me! Please sign up and let's hear about your reasoned ideals after six months in the infantry or so, if you last that long...oh wait...or did you mean other people's blood?? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nothing wrong with this picture
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] counter culture were into things like Small is Beautiful and survivalism (the non-right wing variety) and know how to do a lot of the things you mention there. Did you continue them and, if not, why? These were skills and concepts you learn. You don't have to practice them all a the time. Are you still living like that today? Or, as I suspect, do you drive a gas-consuming vehicle? Which one, pray tell? A Subaru Forrester. [snip] Not very impressive from a polluting point of view. Perhaps you can get your own house in order before you start blaming sweet, innocent oil companies: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm Hah! The Forester is hardly a polluter nor a gas guzzler. It is in the light class of SUVs like the Honda CRV and Toyota RAV (which has been redigned to be more competition for the Forester). You are showing your ignorance of the history of oil companies. They are far from sweet and innocent and their quest for oil has been behind many wars in history. You have nothing to gain from being an apologist for corporatism, McGoo. Those people could care less about you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? Then we have the brawls which scroll off to the right Thunderbird's window when in thread mode (usually changing subject several times as they hijack the thread being to lazy to just start a new thread). Jason Spock wrote: It depends on the character of the Forum you interact with. In some mature forums, you can tell your identity. But in immature loony-bins like this one might feel squeamish about showing identity. A few Rabid dogs in this forum bit me severely. Surely can't trust anyone here and reveal one's identity. ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Fri, 28 Apr 2006 14:56:54 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation True. No-one who finds a need to hide their identity could ever have any worthwhile information... I have two words for you: Deep Throat. So, I suppose you were extremely unhappy with the resignation of Richard Nixon? Because without Deep Throat's revelations it would probably never have happened... - Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nothing wrong with this picture
sparaig wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] The American standard of living is bloated, consumes too much resources and needs to ground out. This could have been done somewhat painlessly but that's apparently not what the right wing has in mind. Haven't you seen Left Behind and Left Behind II etc? It doesn't matter. Only the good stewards who exploited the land will be lifted up anyway. I accidentally rented one once thinking it was a B-movie apocalyptic thriller. Then I thought it was a spoof on Christianity until by the end I realized that they were serious. P.T. Barnum was right on. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
Pal, I'm not kidding. A Soldiers duty is to fight for his Army. An Army's duty is to fight for it's country.Death is an occupational hazard. It comes with the territory. This is why they are well taken care of. If America had not faced up it's challenges in the past 250 years, What kind of world we would be living today.??? You will be speaking German and I might be dead in a Gas Chamber.??? Face the reality Pal. Nature is cruel at times. Nature is ruthless at times. I'll send you a private mail. It will give you a better prespective. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:39:50 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarYou've got to be kidding me! Please sign up and let's hear about your reasoned ideals after six months in the infantry or so, if you last that long...oh wait...or did you mean other people's blood?? Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Nothing wrong with this picture
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] counter culture were into things like Small is Beautiful and survivalism (the non-right wing variety) and know how to do a lot of the things you mention there. Did you continue them and, if not, why? These were skills and concepts you learn. You don't have to practice them all a the time. Are you still living like that today? Or, as I suspect, do you drive a gas-consuming vehicle? Which one, pray tell? A Subaru Forrester. [snip] Not very impressive from a polluting point of view. Perhaps you can get your own house in order before you start blaming sweet, innocent oil companies: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm Hah! The Forester is hardly a polluter nor a gas guzzler. Where can you go in a Forrester that you can't go in a Honda Civic, you global-warming fossil-fuel burner? It is in the light class of SUVs like the Honda CRV and Toyota RAV (which has been redigned to be more competition for the Forester). You are showing your ignorance of the history of oil companies. They are far from sweet and innocent and their quest for oil has been behind many wars in history. You have nothing to gain from being an apologist for corporatism, McGoo. Those people could care less about you. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Pal, I'm not kidding. A Soldiers duty is to fight for his Army. An Army's duty is to fight for it's country. Death is an occupational hazard. It comes with the territory. This is why they are well taken care of. If America had not faced up it's challenges in the past 250 years, What kind of world we would be living today.??? You will be speaking German and I might be dead in a Gas Chamber.??? Face the reality Pal. Nature is cruel at times. Nature is ruthless at times. I'll send you a private mail. It will give you a better prespective. Please don't continue your correspondence by private email, Jason, because you're making more sense than 90% of the people here and they need to here what you have to say... jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 18:39:50 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War You've got to be kidding me! Please sign up and let's hear about your reasoned ideals after six months in the infantry or so, if you last that long...oh wait...or did you mean other people's blood?? - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Why the Future Doesn't Need Us (Long)
I read this article when it originally came out and am much in agreement with Bill Joy. This last Christmas a relative gave me a copy of Kurzweil's The Singularity is Near that's premise I feel is very flawed. My relative mistakenly thought that I would see Kurzweil as a great technologist but I see him as a mad scientist and very unenlightened. I had also read some of Kaczynski's rants too and it is too bad he chose the wrong actions to make his point. Computers are a great tool but that's it: a tool. I work with them all the time and enjoy getting away from them. Nothing is more painful that getting stuck on a project trying to fix a difficult to find bug and getting naive comments from suits who in their ignorance think I'm either a wunderkind for creating such as program or a jerk if I can't fix it. Computers allowed small businesses to track their losses which is somewhat good and somewhat bad. Before every small store had computers to track inventory then tended to have a more varied selection. That has long gone away. It looks like big business and the Illuminati or whatever you want to call those rakshasas don't like computers either and the freedom they give us either. They really don't like the freedom of speech on the Internet. They want to reign in the Internet severely. I would suggest we reign them in instead. As for AI or artificial consciousness which I have actually worked on a bit I mentioned to some of my colleagues that Indian philosophy has much of the mechanics of consciousness broken out into paradigms that could be implemented on a computer. One colleague actually located a Phd thesis by someone primitively demonstrated such theory. I never took the theories much farther to implement them myself but there is at least one well known program that borrowed on some of this theory. Vaj wrote: Why the future doesn't need us is an article by Bill Joy, Chief Scientist at Sun Microsystems. In this article, he argues (quoting the sub title) that Our most powerful 21st-century technologies - robotics, genetic engineering, and nanotech - are threatening to make humans an endangered species. The article was published in the April 2000 issue of Wired Magazine. Joy warns: The experiences of the atomic scientists clearly show the need to take personal responsibility, the danger that things will move too fast, and the way in which a process can take on a life of its own. We can, as they did, create insurmountable problems in almost no time flat. We must do more thinking up front if we are not to be similarly surprised and shocked by the consequences of our inventions. The essay has been compared by The Times to Albert Einstein's 1939 letter to then US President Franklin D. Roosevelt, warning him of the possibility of the Nazis inventing the atomic bomb. http://www.primitivism.com/future.htm snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Nothing wrong with this picture
shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: shempmcgurk wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: [snip] counter culture were into things like Small is Beautiful and survivalism (the non-right wing variety) and know how to do a lot of the things you mention there. Did you continue them and, if not, why? These were skills and concepts you learn. You don't have to practice them all a the time. Are you still living like that today? Or, as I suspect, do you drive a gas-consuming vehicle? Which one, pray tell? A Subaru Forrester. [snip] Not very impressive from a polluting point of view. Perhaps you can get your own house in order before you start blaming sweet, innocent oil companies: http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/findacar.htm Hah! The Forester is hardly a polluter nor a gas guzzler. Where can you go in a Forrester that you can't go in a Honda Civic, you global-warming fossil-fuel burner? The Forester was considered the best value for it's price and class when I bought it 1998. I'm also driven a CRV which is a nice vehicle. The Civic is a little small to haul some of my music gear. I would like to see a Civic deal with some of the mud I've been able to drive through with the AWD Forester. I didn't think you believed in global warming? Do I need to do a Willy like search here? By the laws of thermodynamics any engine will create heat in its operation thereby contributing to global warming. It's the depletion of non-renewable resources that we are discussing here and how we solve the problem. Again a Forester is hardly in the class of a gas guzzler. snip To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
Alright, Sir McGurk, Here is a web-page that will make a man or break a man. Proof of an impersonal Universe and impersonal Nature, http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/ce/4/part2.htmlA very long article, Should be read very carefully... ShempMcGurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:10:53 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarPlease don't continue your correspondence by private email, Jason, because you're making more sense than 90% of the people here and they need to here what you have to say... Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Choice of language: the HEART of freedom of speech!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: Although I'm sure that the majority of you think I'm a big mouth who claims to be all-knowing on any subject under the sun, the one thing I WILL claim to be an expert on is language rights and how they pertain to freedom of speech and freedom of _expression_ (this is because I am a Canadian who dealt on a political level with language issues in that officially bilingual country). And the one thing I will say to you is: the language you speak is a free choice that lies at the heart of protected speech under the first amendment. Of course Bush is NOT saying that a law should be passed requiring the National Anthem to be sung in English and, certainly, as a leader he can certainly suggest to people how they can exercise their free choice in speech...BUT, as a sworn defender of the constitution, he has, I believe, a moral obligation to REMIND us that language and CHOICE of language is, indeed, protected free speech. Excellent point, Shemp. But he didn't, and he won't. And I'll bet you a buck when some clown comes up with legislation to require the National Anthem to be sung in English, he'll support it. He's already in enough trouble with his right-wing constituency. It will be interesting to see how the left-wing reacts to this as well. It has been my experience that the left-wing is as clueless as the right-wing when it comes to the question of language. The left, of course, supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish and finds the objections to it ludicrous and offensive. ...and this was a policy resolution recently passed at the Official Leftists of America convention held when? Where? Are you hallucinating again, Shemp? I must be because you state above that the left...supports singing the National Anthem in Spanish. Is this official policy or are you, Judy, hallucinating that that is some sort of official policy of the Left? Can you tell me where I said anything about official policy, Shemp? Who, then, were you speaking for when you made such a declaration? Oh, it wasn't the Left? You mean you were speaking just for yourself? Now I understand. Okay, so it was just like your mixed-up use of the word media. Thanks, I understand now. Ya know, Shemp, you were just chiding Barry for embellishing. You ought to think about practicing what you preach, because you do almost as much fantasizing as he does. We can reproduce the Wikipedia definitions of media here if you like, Judith (of course, in the context of your original post, not later posts, on the subject). Shemp, take your medication, please. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 4/29/06 12:16 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. So, if I understand your yes above correctly, you would like the U.S. troops to go to Darfur and use military action there? Possibly, but I don't like playing arm chair politician. If I were in a position to totally immerse myself in these issues and had some influence on polity decisions, I might form an opinion very different than one I might shoot from the hip from my current perspective. In general though, I favor humanitarian over military action as an instrument of foreign policy. And in terms of the oil problem, I recommend we stop quibbling over insignificant resources such as The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and spending hundreds of billions on wars to secure oil we may never lay hands on, and shift the whole paradigm to energy independence. If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). Gee, is that the Rolling Stone cover story before or after their Britney Spears cover? Ya know, I don't think I depend on Rolling Stone for my political content... The more fool you. This was an important article by Sean Wilentz, a well-known Princeton historian who writes regularly on politics for Rolling Stone and other major publications. Also writes lots of books, including the recent Rise of American Democracy: Jefferson to Lincoln. But maybe you mean you don't read Rolling Stone for its political content because it leans sharply left, not because you ignorantly assume its political content must be fluff. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? Or are self-employed and work from home, like me, and take quick breaks by dropping over here and leaving a post or two. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
At least that's what the commentator in the History Channel was trying to imply. You might be right on this one. Authfriend can help me out on this, I heard that, there are more jews living in New-York than in Israel.?? And over 40% percent of the restaurants in New-York are Kosher.?? authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:55:26 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarThat *some* white people refused to come out and meethim. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portionof the population. Read about his funeral and thenational mourning that took place after hisassassination. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? Or are self-employed and work from home, like me, and take quick breaks by dropping over here and leaving a post or two. I'm self-employed too but often only have time to glance at posts here as I have numerous other lists and online forums to check in on too. :) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Why the Future Doesn't Need Us (Long)
There is an difference between 'Artificial-intelligence' and 'Artificial-Consciousness'. Dr.John Hagelin states that it is not possible to reach a temperature of Absolute Zero. You reach one-millionth of a degree above absolute zero, then, one-billionth and then, one-trillionth and then, one-quadrillionth, etc etc . forever and ever. The example given is that of a Rabbit jumping towards a Carrot. Each jump is half of the previous jump. The first jump is 4 feet, the sevond jump is 2 feet and the next jump is half of that etc etc The Rabbit will keep jumping for ever but it will never reach the Carrot. Dr. Hagelin states that No computer or machine or equipment can access the Unified field of Consciousness. Only the Human nervous system can access the Unified field of consciousness. Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 15:11:25 -0400Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Why the Future Doesn't Need Us (Long) I read this article when it originally came out and am much in agreement with Bill Joy. This last Christmas a relative gave me a copy of Kurzweil's "The Singularity is Near" that's premise I feel is very flawed. My relative mistakenly thought that I would see Kurzweil as a great technologist but I see him as a "mad scientist" and very unenlightened. I had also read some of Kaczynski's rants too and it is too bad he chose the wrong actions to make his point.Computers are a great tool but that's it: a tool. I work with them all the time and enjoy getting away from them. Nothing is more painful that getting stuck on a project trying to fix a difficult to find bug and getting naive comments from suits who in their ignorance think I'm either a wunderkind for creating such as program or a jerk if I can't fix it.Computers allowed small businesses to track their losses which is somewhat good and somewhat bad. Before every small store had computers to track inventory then tended to have a more varied selection. That has long gone away.It looks like big business and the "Illuminati" or whatever you want to call those rakshasas don't like computers either and the freedom they give us either. They really don't like the freedom of speech on the Internet. They want to reign in the Internet severely. I would suggest we reign them in instead.As for AI or "artificial consciousness" which I have actually worked on a bit I mentioned to some of my colleagues that Indian philosophy has much of the mechanics of consciousness broken out into paradigms that could be implemented on a computer. One colleague actually located a Phd thesis by someone primitively demonstrated such theory. I never took the theories much farther to implement them myself but there is at least one well known program that borrowed on some of this theory. Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. Are you suggesting this contradicts that at some points in his presidency, Abraham Lincoln was quite unpopular? Prior to the 1864 election, the war was not going well and Lincoln was low in popularity. There was serious talk of McClelland taking the Republican nomination. Then within months, Sherman took Atlanta, the war was soon after ended, and Lincoln's popularity surged. Within a few days he was shot. Of course there was huge outpouring for him -- particularly given the roller-coaster ride of events in those years -- 63-65. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/29/06 12:01:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash. Yes it is! The bottom of Lake Yellowstone is also rising and displacing water, indicating a rise in magma. However volcanologist say it could it could be another hundred thousand years off before a major eruption occurs there again. Part of the problem with the ash is what happened in Pompe. You breath in the ash which is like breathing in powderedcement. Then you breath again and your lungs secret moisture and the ash liquefies and turns into cement and you suffocate, quickly. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 12:15:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Good for Neil. But isn't it sad in a way that it takes someone our age to sing the songs that the young should be singing...How do you feel about U.S. military action in Darfur? Well, I guess if there is no strategic reason or oil in Darfur it's OK. No seriously, let Europe handle this one. Lets see if the French foreign legion is all it's cracked up to be. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/29/06 12:19:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash.As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) Another America hater. Jason you must be an under achiever that thinks everybody owes you something. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Rolling Stone : The Worst President in History?
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/profile/story/9961300/the_worst_president_i n_history Or http://tinyurl.com/n2f4m To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Pal, I'm not kidding. A Soldiers duty is to fight for his Army. An Army's duty is to fight for it's country. Death is an occupational hazard. It comes with the territory. This is why they are well taken care of. If America had not faced up it's challenges in the past 250 years, What kind of world we would be living today.??? You will be speaking German and I might be dead in a Gas Chamber.??? Face the reality Pal. OK, its 2006, not 1945... Nature is cruel at times. Nature is ruthless at times. Nature is always absolutely fair, and perfectly balanced. No more armchair generals, please. If you feel war is a viable alternative today, sign up now, and start killing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
This one can be very dangerous. Sudan's Geo-Strategic location is such that it can make both the Gulf-War and the current Iraq-war look like a Picnic. A potential Vietnam. The huge desert, the temperatures in day-time rise up to 55 degrees celsius. Sandy terrain with dust-storms billowing all over. Equipment break-down, dehydration of soldiers. The scale of operation might have to be 6 times bigger that Gulf-War. Atleast 500,000 troups on the ground. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:42:04 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarWell, I guess if there is no strategic reason or oil in Darfur it's OK. No seriously, let Europe handle this one. Lets see if the French foreign legion is all it's cracked up to be. How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messengers low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. Are you suggesting this contradicts that at some points in his presidency, Abraham Lincoln was quite unpopular? No. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, markmeredith2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Nelson nelsonriddle2001@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig sparaig@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: [...] Apparently, there's a DNA company out there that's using DNA testing for the same reason...BUT for a different purpose: locate an African- American ancestor so that you can take advantage of affirmative- action! I guess there's an advantage to the one-drop rule... Since ALL human beings share a common female ancestor, the one- drop rule is kinda silly... +++ Common ancestor? Is that a fact or opinion and, what color? N. The book The 7 Daughters of Eve lays out the genetic argument that 95% of all people of white european ancestry descended from 7 women who left africa and settled elsewhere, I think about 45,000 yrs ago. *** In other respects, however, further analysis including looking at other sequences from the nuclear genome has largely discredited the mitochondrial Eve idea, i.e., the bottleneck was likely never as severe as a single female, perhaps more like several thousand to several tens of thousands of females. http://www.zoology.ubc.ca/~etaylor/413www/human_zoogeog1.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Hey Man, Sombody else wrote it. I don't remember who wrote it.?? Readthe posts more carefully Pal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:46:16 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA historyAnother America hater. Jason you must be an under achiever that thinks everybody owes you something. As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 12:26:09 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you think maybe those sanctions should have been lifted once Hans Blix came to the conclusion there were no WMD's in Iraq, assuming Bush had not invaded Iraq?From what I read, the sanctions were easily bypassed by those with the money to do so, yet as imperfectly as they were enforced, perhaps that was the most effective way to contain such a regime. If in fact such containment was necessary for a second rate dictator, after we decimated his armed forces in 91. According to the Dueffler report on Iraq, while they didn't find any WMD's there, Saddam was very capable of reconstituting his WMD programs easily and was more dangerous than ever because he was hell bent on getting the sanctions lifted against Iraq. The fact that the sanctions were easily bypassed and were to many a joke, was all the more reason why Saddam's allies could have been manipulated to lift them all together, "for the sake of the children". Also for the sake of paying off those enormous debts to Russia and France. Could you imagine what Saddam would be doing right now had sanctions been lifted and his neighbor Iran was off to the races on building nukes? Do you think he would not feel justified in doing the same, this time in the name of self defense? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
I'm not a War-Monger. War should always be a last resort. All I am saying is that Bush.jr chose the wrong time to go to war. It's not a good idea to open too many fronts at a time. About Nature, Don't take it literaly. It was just a figurative _expression_. The point is that the suffering and misery of iraqi people has to be ended. How would you feel if your children were thrown into Meat cleaving machines in front of your eyes.? That's what happened to political opponents of Saddam. Do you know what Saddam did to old Baath party members whe he took full control in 1980.? Do you know that Uday Hussain and Quasay Hussain picked any girls they fancied walking on the streets, took them to GuestHouses, raped them and the took them to the Baghdad Zoo and threw them to the Lions and smoked Cigars as the girls screamed on being torn apart by the Lions.?? Do you know that Iraq is the only country in the world in which Professional rapists were employed by the Saddam regime.?? Their only job is to rape.!! The word "Torture" lost all meaning in iraq, when eyes, ears and tongues were routinely pulled out of prisoners. Bush.jr intentions were good. The timing was wrong. But bringing democracy to middle-east is necessary. The politics of the Cold-War made it impossible then. But now dictatorships cannot be tolerated. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 20:57:46 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarOK, its 2006, not 1945... Nature is always absolutely fair, and perfectly balanced. No more armchair generals, please. If you feel war is a viable alternative today, sign up now, and start killing. New Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC and save big. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 2:56:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That *some* white people refused to come out and meethim. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portionof the population. Read about his funeral and thenational mourning that took place after hisassassination. Judy, Lincoln only became a hero once the War was over or at best when there was light at the end of the tunnel, that the war would soon end with a Union victory. Until then, the press gave him hell and even one of the most beloved northerngenerals, McClellan ran for president against him. Lincoln did not have an easy time. Victory changes every thing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash. As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) U R Wrong. We R smart: News Rack Destroyed in 'Bomb' Scare By Bob Pool, Los Angeles Times Staff Writer latimes.com April 29, 2006 A newspaper promotion for the upcoming movie Mission: Impossible III misfired Friday when a Los Angeles County sheriff's arson squad blew up a news rack, thinking it contained a bomb. Instead, the Los Angeles Times coin machine near the intersection of Sand Canyon and Soledad Canyon roads in Santa Clarita held a digital musical device designed to play the Mission: Impossible theme song when the rack's door was opened. The incident came amid several bomb reports made by newspaper buyers startled to see a red plastic box with wires protruding from it attached to the interiors of racks. In West Los Angeles, federal police at the Veterans Affairs Medical Center called in the sheriff's bomb squad after a newspaper buyer spied the 6-inch-long, 2 1/2 -inch-wide box and its wires. By then, deputies were aware that the box was a musical, not explosive, device. Times officials said the devices were placed in 4,500 randomly selected news boxes in Los Angeles and Ventura counties in a venture with Paramount Pictures designed to turn the everyday news rack experience into an extraordinary mission. In this day and age, anything a little odd-looking arouses suspicion, said Times Publisher Jeff Johnson. The devices weren't supposed to be seen by the public, said John O'Loughlin, The Times' senior vice president for planning. This was the least intended outcome. We weren't expecting anything like this. Newspaper executives said the singing news racks were the first of their kind. They are scheduled to be in operation through May 7. The Tom Cruise movie is to open May 5. The bomb squad excitement was unexpected, said Mark Kurtich, senior vice president of operations for The Times. I think Paramount is pretty happy about it. Retired Los Angeles County Sheriff's Sgt. Mike LaPerruque, now security manager for The Times, said law enforcement agencies around Los Angeles were advised Friday afternoon that the devices were a movie promotion and not dangerous. I got a call from one agency even as I was on the phone making the notifications, he said. With the wires leading to the micro-switch on the news rack doors, I can easily see how someone might have misconstrued it as an improvised explosive device, LaPerruque said. - --- Times staff writers Hector Becerra and Gregory W. Griggs contributed to this report. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/29/06 4:09:40 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey Man, Sombody else wrote it. I don't remember who wrote it.?? Readthe posts more carefully Pal. Sorry Jason, I misread it. Double the pox on the person who did write it! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a War-Monger. War should always be a last resort. All I am saying is that Bush.jr chose the wrong time to go to war. It's not a good idea to open too many fronts at a time. About Nature, Don't take it literaly. It was just a figurative _expression_. The point is that the suffering and misery of iraqi people has to be ended. How would you feel if your children were thrown into Meat cleaving machines in front of your eyes.? That's what happened to political opponents of Saddam. Do you know what Saddam did to old Baath party members whe he took full control in 1980.? Do you know that Uday Hussain and Quasay Hussain picked any girls they fancied walking on the streets, took them to GuestHouses, raped them and the took them to the Baghdad Zoo and threw them to the Lions and smoked Cigars as the girls screamed on being torn apart by the Lions.?? Do you know that Iraq is the only country in the world in which Professional rapists were employed by the Saddam regime.?? Their only job is to rape.!! The word Torture lost all meaning in iraq, when eyes, ears and tongues were routinely pulled out of prisoners. Bush.jr intentions were good. The timing was wrong. But bringing democracy to middle-east is necessary. The politics of the Cold-War made it impossible then. But now dictatorships cannot be tolerated. You should read up on the practices of our good good friends and buddies, the communist Chinese (US trade deficit for 2005: $200B). Then you may rethink why we are in Iraq, and not China. Every country at war vilifies its enemies to justify killing them. It also conveniently overlooks the atrocities of countries that it needs as strategic allies. So, great story you have going about the reason we invaded Iraq. The thing is, it isn't true. Oh well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Some months back, some moron Joker misunderstood my post and gave me a real Bloody Nose with insultomatic. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:41:01 EDTSubject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA historySorry Jason, I misread it. Double the pox on the person who did write it! Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, shempmcgurk shempmcgurk@ wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer fairfieldlife@ wrote: on 4/29/06 12:16 PM, shempmcgurk at shempmcgurk@ wrote: Do you want them to leave Iraq and then go to Darfur? There's no oil there. Why in the world would we want to go? But actually, yes. I'd rather see billions spend on humanitarian issues than on bombing a country to smithereens after we've starved them (sanctions) for decades. So, if I understand your yes above correctly, you would like the U.S. troops to go to Darfur and use military action there? Possibly, but I don't like playing arm chair politician. If I were in a position to totally immerse myself in these issues and had some influence on polity decisions, I might form an opinion very different than one I might shoot from the hip from my current perspective. In general though, I favor humanitarian over military action as an instrument of foreign policy. And in terms of the oil problem, I recommend we stop quibbling over insignificant resources such as The Arctic National Wildlife Refuge and spending hundreds of billions on wars to secure oil we may never lay hands on, and shift the whole paradigm to energy independence. If Bush had done that instead of pursuing this war, he might have been remembered as one of our greatest presidents, instead of our worst, as will probably be the case (see cover story in this month's Rolling Stone). Gee, is that the Rolling Stone cover story before or after their Britney Spears cover? Ya know, I don't think I depend on Rolling Stone for my political content... The more fool you. This was an important article by Sean Wilentz, a well-known Princeton historian who writes regularly on politics for Rolling Stone and other major publications. Also writes lots of books, including the recent Rise of American Democracy: Jefferson to Lincoln. But maybe you mean you don't read Rolling Stone for its political content because it leans sharply left, not because you ignorantly assume its political content must be fluff. Is there a difference? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
I can assure you it's true. They are not our friends. They are Bill Clinton's friends. Clinton sold them missile nose-cones that improve the accuracy of missiles by more than 600% percent.!! Clinton also took bribes from Chinese government for his campaign funds. While the Chinese were building up the trade imbalance, Clinton was busy with his nose-cone with Monica. Don't blame Bush.jr for all this. Bush is going to come down hard on China for not free-floating their yuan currency and abuse of human rights. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:43:59 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarYou should read up on the practices of our good good friends and buddies, the communist Chinese (US trade deficit for 2005: $200B). Then you may rethink why we are in Iraq, and not China. Every country at war vilifies its enemies to justify killing them. It also conveniently overlooks the atrocities of countries that it needs as strategic allies. So, great story you have going about the reason we invaded Iraq. The thing is, it isn't true. Oh well. Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At least that's what the commentator in the History Channel was trying to imply. You might be right on this one. Authfriend can help me out on this, I heard that, there are more jews living in New-York than in Israel.?? At one time that statistic was true; whether it is anymore, not sure. And over 40% percent of the restaurants in New-York are Kosher.?? I'd say less than 2%. But if you're in a certain section of Brooklyn, it's probably 100%. authfriend [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 19:55:26 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. - How low will we go? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: FFL under observation
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: authfriend wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote: Apparently some who hang out on this list are unemployed or how else do we explain the number of posts they make everyday? Or are self-employed and work from home, like me, and take quick breaks by dropping over here and leaving a post or two. I'm self-employed too but often only have time to glance at posts here as I have numerous other lists and online forums to check in on too. :) Like alt.conspiracy.nutcases? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
To Jason Spock. You are a war monger if you support this moron in the White House. To bring up what SH did does not justify this war criminal currently occupying the White House going to war with Iraq. You need to start listening to DemocracyNow. org for instance and get a better handle on what this fool and his cohorts are doing. From: jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:43:59 - --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not a War-Monger. War should always be a last resort. All I am saying is that Bush.jr chose the wrong time to go to war. It's not a good idea to open too many fronts at a time. About Nature, Don't take it literaly. It was just a figurative _expression_. The point is that the suffering and misery of iraqi people has to be ended. How would you feel if your children were thrown into Meat cleaving machines in front of your eyes.? That's what happened to political opponents of Saddam. Do you know what Saddam did to old Baath party members whe he took full control in 1980.? Do you know that Uday Hussain and Quasay Hussain picked any girls they fancied walking on the streets, took them to GuestHouses, raped them and the took them to the Baghdad Zoo and threw them to the Lions and smoked Cigars as the girls screamed on being torn apart by the Lions.?? Do you know that Iraq is the only country in the world in which Professional rapists were employed by the Saddam regime.?? Their only job is to rape.!! The word Torture lost all meaning in iraq, when eyes, ears and tongues were routinely pulled out of prisoners. Bush.jr intentions were good. The timing was wrong. But bringing democracy to middle-east is necessary. The politics of the Cold-War made it impossible then. But now dictatorships cannot be tolerated. You should read up on the practices of our good good friends and buddies, the communist Chinese (US trade deficit for 2005: $200B). Then you may rethink why we are in Iraq, and not China. Every country at war vilifies its enemies to justify killing them. It also conveniently overlooks the atrocities of countries that it needs as strategic allies. So, great story you have going about the reason we invaded Iraq. The thing is, it isn't true. Oh well. _ Express yourself instantly with MSN Messenger! Download today - it's FREE! http://messenger.msn.click-url.com/go/onm00200471ave/direct/01/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 12:19:25 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock jedi_spock@ wrote: Great Warning to everyone. Scientists say that YellowStone National Park is a giant Volcano that erupts once every 600,000 years. Now, 620,000 years have passed. A massive blow-up is long overdue. Such an eruption will cover half the hemisphere with ash. As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) Another America hater. Jason you must be an under achiever that thinks everybody owes you something. I think you're mistaking Jason for Turquoise. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can assure you it's true. They are not our friends. They are Bill Clinton's friends. Clinton sold them missile nose-cones that improve the accuracy of missiles by more than 600% percent.!! Clinton also took bribes from Chinese government for his campaign funds. While the Chinese were building up the trade imbalance, Clinton was busy with his nose-cone with Monica. Nose-cone? Don't blame Bush.jr for all this. Bush is going to come down hard on China for not free-floating their yuan currency and abuse of human rights. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:43:59 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War You should read up on the practices of our good good friends and buddies, the communist Chinese (US trade deficit for 2005: $200B). Then you may rethink why we are in Iraq, and not China. Every country at war vilifies its enemies to justify killing them. It also conveniently overlooks the atrocities of countries that it needs as strategic allies. So, great story you have going about the reason we invaded Iraq. The thing is, it isn't true. Oh well. - Yahoo! Mail goes everywhere you do. Get it on your phone. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
Thanks Sri. Sumner.I'll look into it.I don't support Bush 100% percent. I didn't support his Social security policies. What I meant is that on principle, we shouldgoand help suffering and suppressed people. America came to the help of Europe and Asia in the WW2. Even today those principles dont change. Bush goofed-up on the WMD issue. But, remember, Dictatorships are manifestation of 20th century cold-war politics. They have no place in the post cold-war 21st century. We must stand with the Pro-democratic dissidents all over the world. Anthony Sumner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 17:04:59 -0500Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War To Jason Spock. You are a war monger if you support this moron in the White House. To bring up what SH did does not justify this war criminal currently occupying the White House going to war with Iraq. You need to start listening to DemocracyNow. org for instance and get a better handle on what this fool and his cohorts are doing. Get amazing travel prices for air and hotel in one click on Yahoo! FareChase To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I can assure you it's true. I don't dispute Saddam Hussein's atrocities. I also maintain my assertion that they are being conveniently brought to light to justify the US military action and killing. Just as those of the Chinese are being conveniently ignored. They are not our friends. They are Bill Clinton's friends. Clinton sold them missile nose-cones that improve the accuracy of missiles by more than 600% percent.!! Clinton also took bribes from Chinese government for his campaign funds. Oops, I forgot, you enjoy living in the political past-- well then wouldn't it be most accurate to say all of this friendliness with the Chinese is actually...Nixon's fault, for resuming diplomatic relations with them in 71? While the Chinese were building up the trade imbalance, Clinton was busy with his nose-cone with Monica. Don't blame Bush.jr for all this. Bush is going to come down hard on China for not free-floating their yuan currency and abuse of human rights. When? He just had his chance a week ago with the Chinese premier and said nothing, zip. You are indulging your story again... jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 21:43:59 - Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War You should read up on the practices of our good good friends and buddies, the communist Chinese (US trade deficit for 2005: $200B). Then you may rethink why we are in Iraq, and not China. Every country at war vilifies its enemies to justify killing them. It also conveniently overlooks the atrocities of countries that it needs as strategic allies. So, great story you have going about the reason we invaded Iraq. The thing is, it isn't true. Oh well. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Sri. Sumner. I'll look into it. I don't support Bush 100% percent. I didn't support his Social security policies. What I meant is that on principle, we should go and help suffering and suppressed people. America came to the help of Europe and Asia in the WW2. Even today those principles dont change. Bush goofed-up on the WMD issue. But, remember, Dictatorships are manifestation of 20th century cold-war politics. They have no place in the post cold-war 21st century. We must stand with the Pro-democratic dissidents all over the world. Not to sound like a broken record, but how many democratic elections has China held in the last 60 years? Just trying to point out the hypocrisy in this latest 'story' from Bush and Co. Wake up, Jason. You are being m-a-n-i-p-u-l-a-t-e-d. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 2:56:12 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. Judy, Lincoln only became a hero once the War was over or at best when there was light at the end of the tunnel, that the war would soon end with a Union victory. Until then, the press gave him hell and even one of the most beloved northern generals, McClellan ran for president against him. Lincoln did not have an easy time. Victory changes every thing. The claim (which you snipped) was that all white people in the U.S. hated him because of the Emancipation Proclamation. That was not the case, of course. There was a very strong abolitionist movement and a lot of antislavery sentiment, and those people were ecstatic at the Proclamation. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No more armchair generals, please. If you feel war is a viable alternative today, sign up now, and start killing. Do you hold the same principle for all policy? If so it could imply that: -- one stop talking about the high price of oil and take direct action to fight oil prices -- perhaps selling ones car and taking the bus, applying one warm room policy, buy ultra-high efficiency refigerator, use no tv or pcscreens greater than 10, no stereos/ ipods only, no plane travel, etc. Non as extreme as quiting their job, leaving their family and taking up arms. -- one stop talking about getting bush out the white house but working full time 24x7 to do so. That may seem extreme, what about my job and family? It appears the same applies to one who holds a non-pacifist view -- per your recommended policy above: they must quit their job, leave their family and take up arms in the theatre of conflict. While I am not arguing for or against your pacifist position and associated policy, I don't see some special exception for this one policy. Thus it appears per your position all policies one holds should have equal dedicated follow through. Or is there an implicit exception for non-pacifism that I am missing. should To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
If I remember correctly, Bush.jr did make a point in his meeting with the Chinese premier on democracy. The priorities of the cold war made Nixon resume diplomatic ties with China. Something had to be done to counter Soviet-Union, that was the first priority. But, it was really Henry kissinger's idea. He feigned illness in Pakistan and a handwritten note from Yahaya khan in pakistan to Zhou EnLai was taken by Kissinger to China. But, remember, Nixon was undecided till the very last moment, to choose between India and China.During achat between Zhou EnLai and Nixon, EnLai asked Nixon, "Have you read Nehru's book 'discovery of india"? Kissinger sensed that Nixon had not read that book. So he immediately butted in, "He was thinking of a great indian empire.!!!" Immediately EnLai also butted in and said, "Yes Yes, He was thinking of an great indian empire from Malayasia to Ceylon to Afghanistan and it would probably include our tibet as well." Nixon tilted towards China. But the whole project was Kissinger's doing. jim_flanegin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 22:25:38 -Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the WarI don't dispute Saddam Hussein's atrocities. I also maintain my assertion that they are being conveniently brought to light to justify the US military action and killing. Just as those of the Chinese are being conveniently ignored. Oops, I forgot, you enjoy living in the political past-- well then wouldn't it be most accurate to say all of this friendliness with the Chinese is actually...Nixon's fault, for resuming diplomatic relations with them in 71?When? He just had his chance a week ago with the Chinese premier and said nothing, zip. You are indulging your story again... Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1/min. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If I remember correctly, Bush.jr did make a point in his meeting with the Chinese premier on democracy. The priorities of the cold war made Nixon resume diplomatic ties with China. Something had to be done to counter Soviet-Union, that was the first priority. But, it was really Henry kissinger's idea. He feigned illness in Pakistan and a handwritten note from Yahaya khan in pakistan to Zhou EnLai was taken by Kissinger to China. But, remember, Nixon was undecided till the very last moment, to choose between India and China. During a chat between Zhou EnLai and Nixon, EnLai asked Nixon, Have you read Nehru's book 'discovery of india? Kissinger sensed that Nixon had not read that book. So he immediately butted in, He was thinking of a great indian empire.!!! Immediately EnLai also butted in and said, Yes Yes, He was thinking of an great indian empire from Malayasia to Ceylon to Afghanistan and it would probably include our tibet as well. Nixon tilted towards China. But the whole project was Kissinger's doing. Typical Jew! Probably got it wholesale! __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anon_astute_ff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, jim_flanegin jflanegi@ wrote: No more armchair generals, please. If you feel war is a viable alternative today, sign up now, and start killing. Do you hold the same principle for all policy? No, just the advocacy of war as a valid instrument of foreign policy. If so it could imply that: -- one stop talking about the high price of oil and take direct action to fight oil prices -- perhaps selling ones car and taking the bus, applying one warm room policy, buy ultra-high efficiency refigerator, use no tv or pcscreens greater than 10, no stereos/ ipods only, no plane travel, etc. Non as extreme as quiting their job, leaving their family and taking up arms. -- one stop talking about getting bush out the white house but working full time 24x7 to do so. That may seem extreme, what about my job and family? It appears the same applies to one who holds a non- pacifist view -- per your recommended policy above: they must quit their job, leave their family and take up arms in the theatre of conflict. While I am not arguing for or against your pacifist position and associated policy, I don't see some special exception for this one policy. Thus it appears per your position all policies one holds should have equal dedicated follow through. Or is there an implicit exception for non-pacifism that I am missing. The most effective way to bring about real change in our lives and in the world is to know our Selves. Align with Nature. Live the Dharma. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason Spock [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Man, Sombody else wrote it. I don't remember who wrote it.?? Read the posts more carefully Pal. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Sat, 29 Apr 2006 16:46:16 EDT Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history Another America hater. Jason you must be an under achiever that thinks everybody owes you something. As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) Remember the days when we could take a joke on this forum? lurk P.S. The comment in question was made by Turq. - Yahoo! Messenger with Voice. Make PC-to-Phone Calls to the US (and 30+ countries) for 2¢/min or less. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
In a message dated 4/29/06 5:08:21 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Another America hater. Jason you must be an under achiever that thinks everybody owes you something.I think you're mistaking Jason for Turquoise. Yes, I caught that after I had already sent my post. I never saw the identification Turquoise on the original though. I apologized to Jason for the mistake. His comments are far too level headed to be associated with the one I had miss associatedwith him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 5:29:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. Judy, Lincoln only became a hero once the War was over or at best when there was light at the end of the tunnel, that the war would soon end with a Union victory. Until then, the press gave him hell and even one of the most beloved northern generals, McClellan ran for president against him. Lincoln did not have an easy time. Victory changes every thing.The claim (which you snipped) was that all white peoplein the U.S. hated him because of the EmancipationProclamation. That was not the case, of course. Therewas a very strong abolitionist movement and a lot ofantislavery sentiment, and those people were ecstaticat the Proclamation. Judy I don't recall ever saying anything about *all* white people hating Lincoln because of his emancipation proclamation. It was not a popular move in the North with the exception of the abolitionists. People in the north only feared that move would make the south even more resolved in their decision to ceased. Almost nobody was sending their sons off to fight and die for the freedom of slaves, butrather to fight and die to preserve the union.The abolitionist movement was not that big, but it was very vocal. Kind of like the gay rights movement in the democratic party today. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Genographic kit: trace your DNA history
Ah, memories. Sal On Apr 29, 2006, at 7:01 PM, lurkernomore20002000 wrote: > > >As long as its the half with America in it, no big loss. :-) Remember the days when we could take a joke on this forum?
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 5:29:55 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: That *some* white people refused to come out and meet him. He was a hero, even a saint, to a large portion of the population. Read about his funeral and the national mourning that took place after his assassination. Judy, Lincoln only became a hero once the War was over or at best when there was light at the end of the tunnel, that the war would soon end with a Union victory. Until then, the press gave him hell and even one of the most beloved northern generals, McClellan ran for president against him. Lincoln did not have an easy time. Victory changes every thing. The claim (which you snipped) was that all white people in the U.S. hated him because of the Emancipation Proclamation. That was not the case, of course. There was a very strong abolitionist movement and a lot of antislavery sentiment, and those people were ecstatic at the Proclamation. Judy I don't recall ever saying anything about *all* white people hating Lincoln because of his emancipation proclamation. I didn't say it was you. I was responding to Jason, who had written: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. Please read my response in the context of that remark. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 9:26:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was themost hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the populationhated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him."Please read my response in the context of that remark. I still have to agree more or less with Jason. Lincoln, was sending son's off to be killed by the tens of thousands to supposedly preserve the Union. When he announced the emancipation proclamation, the tide of the war had not yet turned in favor of the North and there were politicians that still hoped for a negotiated settlement and that, the emancipation proclamation,ruined it in many peoples eyes. Lincoln had a very hard time in the press and public opinion until Gettysburg. Between the battle of Gettysburg and the next election Lincoln got some breathing room and was able to get more public support. But the emancipation proclamation only gave him support from a minority of white abolitionists while others thought it only gave the South more resolve to fight on. Of course by the end of the war Lincoln was the hero and even Southerners looked upon him as the person to protect them from Northern politicians seeking revenge. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 4/29/06 9:26:41 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At a particular point in time, Abraham Lincoln was the most hated man in America. When he abolished Slavery the population hated him with such intensity that the white people refused to come out and meet him. Please read my response in the context of that remark. I still have to agree more or less with Jason. Lincoln, was sending son's off to be killed by the tens of thousands to supposedly preserve the Union. When he announced the emancipation proclamation, the tide of the war had not yet turned in favor of the North and there were politicians that still hoped for a negotiated settlement and that, the emancipation proclamation, ruined it in many peoples eyes. Lincoln had a very hard time in the press and public opinion until Gettysburg. Between the battle of Gettysburg and the next election Lincoln got some breathing room and was able to get more public support. But the emancipation proclamation only gave him support from a minority of white abolitionists while others thought it only gave the South more resolve to fight on. Of course by the end of the war Lincoln was the hero and even Southerners looked upon him as the person to protect them from Northern politicians seeking revenge. OK, you obviously know a lot about the period. I just thought Jason's remark was way too absolute, as if Lincoln had no supporters at all, which really wasn't the case. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Hear Neil Young, Help Stop the War
In a message dated 4/29/06 11:11:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: OK, you obviously know a lot about the period. Ijust thought Jason's remark was way too absolute, asif Lincoln had no supporters at all, which reallywasn't the case. I normally don't go along with absolutes either. Lincoln had a hardcore following that was small. But he sure took a lot of heat from everybody else until victory was in sight. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Maharishi university of management Maharishi mahesh yogi Ramana maharshi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
