[FairfieldLife] Re: Conversation with Mr. Chivukula - Minor, Important Adjustment

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "lurkernomore20002000"
 wrote:
>
> I had a conversation with Ravi this evening. I wish him the best in
his endeavours. His awakening is such that it seems he is embarking on a
new career, that of Raviguru. This is nothing other than what he has
been saying of course, but I wanted to hear it straight from him. I
remained skeptical that he was really leaving behind family and work
life. But this seems to be the case.
>
> Pretty much, the answer to any question distlled down to, this is the
divine working through Ravi. So, what else is there to say.
>
> Ex: "Ravi, it sounds like you are going to live the life of wandering
mendicant"
>
> Answer: "Yes, the divine will work through Ravi, and let him know what
plan the divine has" Or something to this effect.
>
> Bottom Line: I believe Ravi believes that his awakening will bestow
upon him the credibiliy to assume the role of a guru to many seekers.
And I think he feels that because he has great saturation with American
culture, with all it's nuances that he is uniquely fashioned for this
role.
>
> This is my report.
>

[FairfieldLife] Conversation with Mr. Chivukula

[lurkernomore20002000]

I had a conversation with Ravi this evening.  I wish him the best in his 
endeavours.  His awakening is such that it seems he is embarking on a new 
career, that of Raviguru.  This is nothing other than what he has been saying 
of course, but I wanted to hear it straight from him.  I remained skeptical 
that he was really leaving behind family and work life.  But this seems to be 
the case. 

Pretty much, the answer to any question distlled down to, this is the divine 
working through Ravi.  So, what else is there to say.

Ex: "Ravi, it sounds like you are going to live the life of wandering mendicant"

Answer:  "Yes, the divine will work through Ravi, and let him know what plan 
the divine has"  Or something to this effect.

Bottom Line: I believe Ravi believes that his awakening will bestow upon him 
the credibiliy to assume the role of a guru to many seekers.  And I think that 
because he has great saturation with American culture, with all it's nuances 
that he is uniquely fashioned for this role.

This is my report. 

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Mike Dixon]

I apologize for taking advantage of the situation:-)





From: Mike Dixon 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 8:18:36 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

  
You might want to consider that many of these oil rig workers don't have 
college degrees and others may have degrees in a totally different field that 
doesn't pay as much and their jobs are a step up for them. It's good pay for an 
honest days work. It pays their bills,buys them homes, and helps their families 
to better themselves. They are the salt of the earth. I can't help having 
respect for anyone that has a job and does it well, blue or white collar.





From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 6:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

  
You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike. Ask them if they had an 
opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get 
dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it? Bet they would 
in a minute.

Mike Dixon wrote:
> Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how 
> clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? 
> Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six 
> figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into 
> the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and 
> businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and 
> humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from 
> their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an 
> honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love 
> to have right now.
>
>
>
>  _ _ __
> From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
>
> 
>
>
> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
>
> White Willy speaks with forked tongue.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 






  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Mike Dixon]

You might want to consider that many of these oil rig workers don't have 
college degrees and others may have degrees in a totally different field that 
doesn't pay as much and their jobs are a step up for them. It's good pay for an 
honest days work. It pays their bills,buys them homes, and helps their families 
to better themselves. They are the salt of the earth. I can't help having 
respect for anyone that has a job and does it well, blue or white collar.





From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 6:08:11 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

  
You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike. Ask them if they had an 
opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get 
dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it? Bet they would 
in a minute.

Mike Dixon wrote:
> Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how 
> clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day? 
> Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six 
> figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into 
> the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and 
> businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and 
> humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from 
> their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an 
> honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love 
> to have right now.
>
>
>
> 
> From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
>
> 
>
>
> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
>
> White Willy speaks with forked tongue.
>
>
>
>
>
> 
> 





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori

[lurkernomore20002000]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
>
> No need to reduce other paths to "Transcendental Meditation." This a
habit that Maharishi had that, IMHO, cultivated arrogance and separation
from others not doing what "we" did. The TM/ TM-Sidhi program offers a
great sadhana or spiritual practice, but it failed to address necessary
critical behaviors while on the path towards Realization. This failure
to cultivate these values led to the profound dysfunction of the TMO and
ultimately to its failure (failure is a relative term here. The TMO and
MMY can also be seen as very successful in other contexts). TM is not
the "gold standard" of spiritual practices. It simply is one of many
bodies of yogic practices that contributes to increasing sattva in the
body/mind. I don't believe there is a "gold standard" in any objective
sense.

  Also, I would like to apologize ahead of time for my reasonable tone. I
will get shrill and irrational if that is more appropriate.


That's old school.  That's our Dr. Pete.  And didn't even send it from
his blackberry.


> --- On Fri, 5/21/10, Buck dhamiltony...@... wrote:
>
> > From: Buck dhamiltony...@...
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 9:10 PM
> >
> >
> >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Amritanandamayi teaches a spiritual path that
> > > > consists of understanding the scriptures in
> > > > the Vedas, the Upanishads, and the Bhagavad
> > > > Gita.
> > > >
> > > > Amma advocates meditation, karma yoga, and
> > > > devotional service. According to Amma, the
> > > > cultivation of blissful consciousness reveals
> > > > the non-dual, transcendental absolute, leading
> > > > to 'jivanmukti' - fully realized while yet
> > > > living.
> > > >
> >
> > Cool that reads as, Transcendental Meditation.
> >
> >
> > > > "There is one Truth that shines through all of
> > > > creation. Rivers and mountains, plants and
> > > > animals, the sun, the moon and the stars, you
> > > > and I â€" all are expressions of this one
> > > > Reality." - Amma
> > > >
> >
> > This reads sounding like a 'Unified Field' Chart.
> >
> > >
> > > Yes, that is succinct.  She's a
> > transcendentalist.
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> > To subscribe, send a message to:
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Dennis Kucinich thinks that oil is a dirty business

[authfriend]

Can't dig yourself out of your gaffe that way, Bhairitu.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> He must be an elitist and maybe even a classist.  :-D
> 
> http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0521/firedup-kucinich-reducing-earth-smoking-glowing-oily-mess/
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori

[Peter]

No need to reduce other paths to "Transcendental Meditation." This a habit that 
Maharishi had that, IMHO, cultivated arrogance and separation from others not 
doing what "we" did.  The TM/ TM-Sidhi program offers a great sadhana or 
spiritual practice, but it failed to address necessary critical behaviors while 
on the path towards Realization. This failure to cultivate these values led to 
the profound dysfunction of the TMO and ultimately to its failure (failure is a 
relative term here. The TMO and MMY can also be seen as very successful in 
other contexts). TM is not the "gold standard" of spiritual practices. It 
simply is one of many bodies of yogic practices that contributes to increasing 
sattva in the body/mind. I don't believe there is a "gold standard" in any 
objective sense. Also, I would like to apologize ahead of time for my 
reasonable tone. I will get shrill and irrational if that is more appropriate.  
  

--- On Fri, 5/21/10, Buck  wrote:

> From: Buck 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 21, 2010, 9:10 PM
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Amritanandamayi teaches a spiritual path that 
> > > consists of understanding the scriptures in 
> > > the Vedas, the Upanishads, and the Bhagavad 
> > > Gita. 
> > > 
> > > Amma advocates meditation, karma yoga, and 
> > > devotional service. According to Amma, the 
> > > cultivation of blissful consciousness reveals 
> > > the non-dual, transcendental absolute, leading 
> > > to 'jivanmukti' - fully realized while yet 
> > > living.
> > >
> 
> Cool that reads as, Transcendental Meditation.
> 
>  
> > > "There is one Truth that shines through all of 
> > > creation. Rivers and mountains, plants and 
> > > animals, the sun, the moon and the stars, you 
> > > and I — all are expressions of this one 
> > > Reality." - Amma
> > >
> 
> This reads sounding like a 'Unified Field' Chart.
> 
> > 
> > Yes, that is succinct.  She's a
> transcendentalist.
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> Or go to: 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
> 
> 
>     fairfieldlife-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com
> 
> 
> 


  

[FairfieldLife] Dennis Kucinich thinks that oil is a dirty business

[Bhairitu]

He must be an elitist and maybe even a classist.  :-D

http://rawstory.com/rs/2010/0521/firedup-kucinich-reducing-earth-smoking-glowing-oily-mess/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, ditzyklanmail  wrote:
>
> After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I have
> to admit, the Turquoise jewel does make some sense

ROTFL!

> and even with the sometimes rude awakening, he seems like
> a "nice person."

Well, you've just done a nice job inoculating yourself
against his viciousness. Smart move.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >   
> >> authfriend wrote:
> >> 
> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> >>> 
> >>>   
>  Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
>  
> >>> You got something against getting dirty?
> >>>   
> >> Every work on a car?  Or how about crawling under a wheat
> >> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck?  Grease
> >> and oil aren't much fun to work with.
> >
> > Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing
> > a truck.
> >
> >> Electric cars are much cleaner.
> >   
> >>> Jeez, talk about elitism!
> >>>
> >>> They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.
> >>>   
> >> I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job.
> >
> > And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job?
> >
> > Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further
> > behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and
> > an elitist.
> 
> I would highly doubt that anyone doing this kind of work
> would disagree that it is dirty work.

Disingenuous. Nobody said they weren't.

But you implied, scornfully, that because they were
dirty, they weren't high quality. Think you might want
to take that back, now that it shows you to be a 
classist and an elitist? Or do you prefer to make
yourself look even worse by continuing to try to
pretend you never said it?

And you claimed *Willytex* had a forked tongue.
Hypocrite.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[ditzyklanmail]

After reading quite a few posts here at Fairfield, I have to admit, the 
Turquoise jewel does make some sense and even with the sometimes rude 
awakening, he seems like a "nice person."  Anyways, was the Ravi poster, 
actually Turquoise in disguise? Just wondering as I whistle. 






From: TurquoiseB 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, 21 May, 2010 1:09:54 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
>
> thx, excellent points!  I don't have time to go into this topic 
> at length; but basically in answer to question posed in the Bible 
> "Who is your Brother's Keeper";...if "Brother/Sister" ends only 
> two doors down, I take issue with that.
>  A certain Buddhist perspective (which I groked from various 
> Teachers) is that I am responsible for everything and everybody 
> in the universe.  Therefore I personally am responsible for Ravi.
> otoh, if you prefer not to take such responsibility, that's ok 
> with me.
> ...
> then the questions you posed:  first, praying (I usually pray/chant 
> in conjunction with various Deities/Yidams such as Kali, Kwan Yin, 
> etc)...IS DOING something.  The enery circulates in the inner 
> planes.  The energy of pujas, Yagyas, prayers, etc; eventually 
> manifests physically.
> By "doing" something I assume you mean on the physical plane of 
> existence.
> That's a very limited pov.

My point is that among many long-term spiritual 
seekers, it's the POV they consider last, or never
consider at all. They've been told for so many
decades that their mere Woo Woo is *enough* to
resolve situations they find unpleasant, so that
is the only "solution" they think of, or try. 

In this particular case, *Ravi's* fantasies all
revolve around how "powerful" he is, how much he
is "affecting" those who interact with him, how
just *by* interacting with them these people *who
are criticizing him and/or laughing at him* have
become his "disciples," his "students," and how
he is "in charge," "controlling the situation,"
"always winning." In other words, he is essentially
the *end product* of this belief system. 

Have we not seen the *same* belief system around 
here before? True, not expressed in such a socio-
pathic manner, but I'm thinkin' Déja Mu.

I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
is IMO already several miles down the road to 
madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
*grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.

But still, the overall *act* strikes me as familiar,
and a little disturbingly so. Part of the TM dogma,
ferchissakes, has always been the low-vibeness of
having to act on the level of action to resolve a
situation. We're talking about an organization that
charges its followers *money* to pray for them to
gods and goddesses so that they won't *have* to act
themselves (TM Yagyas). And we're talking about an 
organization in which this 'tude (reluctance to 
"get involved" and act physically) has led to at 
least one murder (Levi Butler). I don't think it's 
out of line to point out stuff like this.

I was *not* trying to slam you personally for your
suggestion. I was merely rapping about parallels 
I see in the suggestion to points of dogma I see as 
less than completely healthy. Relying on prayer or 
meditation to invoke the good graces of the gods, or 
to add a little more collective "energy" or Woo Woo 
into the mix strikes me as something one does when 
in a drought and hoping for rain or when hoping for
something tenuous and theoretical like "world peace."
I find it less impressive and practical when the wolf 
is at the door, or when someone's family might really 
need protecting. That's all.

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "yifuxero"  wrote:
> > >
> > > pray for him in the traditional sense. The combined Shakti 
> > > and good-will may steer him in the right direction, whatever 
> > > that may be.
> > 
> > Why does this strike me as exactly the same kind of 
> > advice that got Ravi *into* this situation?
> > 
> > Why does it strike me as the kind of belief that got
> > Levi Butler killed? "I know I'm supposed to be watch-
> > ing this guy, but I've got to go meditate right now.
> > Nothing bad can possibly happen if I do that."
> > 
> > Where's the point at which people stop praying and 
> > DO SOMETHING?
> > 
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > RICK, she's right. This is potent

[FairfieldLife] Re: Spirit a priori

[Buck]

> >
> > 
> > 
> > Amritanandamayi teaches a spiritual path that 
> > consists of understanding the scriptures in 
> > the Vedas, the Upanishads, and the Bhagavad 
> > Gita. 
> > 
> > Amma advocates meditation, karma yoga, and 
> > devotional service. According to Amma, the 
> > cultivation of blissful consciousness reveals 
> > the non-dual, transcendental absolute, leading 
> > to 'jivanmukti' - fully realized while yet 
> > living.
> >

Cool that reads as, Transcendental Meditation.

 
> > "There is one Truth that shines through all of 
> > creation. Rivers and mountains, plants and 
> > animals, the sun, the moon and the stars, you 
> > and I — all are expressions of this one 
> > Reality." - Amma
> >

This reads sounding like a 'Unified Field' Chart.

> 
> Yes, that is succinct.  She's a transcendentalist.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

You sure have a fucked up value system, Mike.  Ask them if they had an 
opportunity to make that kind of money on a different job and NOT get 
dirty or deal with dirty oil stuff would they take it?  Bet they would 
in a minute.

Mike Dixon wrote:
> Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how 
> clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day?  
> Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six 
> figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into 
> the Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and 
> businesses. Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and 
> humid, especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from 
> their families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an 
> honorable job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love 
> to have right now.
>
>
>
> 
> From: Bhairitu 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot
>
>   
>
>
> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
>
> White Willy speaks with forked tongue.
>
>
>
>
>
>   
>   

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>   
>> authfriend wrote:
>> 
>>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>>> 
>>>   
>>>   
 Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
 
>>> You got something against getting dirty?
>>>   
>> Every work on a car?  Or how about crawling under a wheat
>> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck?  Grease
>> and oil aren't much fun to work with.
>> 
>
> Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing
> a truck.
>
>   
>> Electric cars are much cleaner.
>> 
>
>   
>>> Jeez, talk about elitism!
>>>
>>> They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.
>>>   
>> I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job.
>> 
>
> And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job?
>
> Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further
> behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and
> an elitist.

I would highly doubt that anyone doing this kind of work would disagree 
that it is dirty work.  Saying so has nothing to do with elitism but why 
should I care if I'm called either a classist or elitist -- line on 
water. :-D

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> authfriend wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> > 
> >   
> >> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
> >
> > You got something against getting dirty?
> 
> Every work on a car?  Or how about crawling under a wheat
> truck in the dusty farm country to lube the truck?  Grease
> and oil aren't much fun to work with.

Not much excitement in working on a car or lubing
a truck.

> Electric cars are much cleaner.

> > Jeez, talk about elitism!
> >
> > They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.
> 
> I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job.

And therefore it isn't a "high quality" job?

Bhairitu, you need to pipe down before you get further
behind. You've just nailed yourself as a classist and
an elitist.

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Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
>   
>> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?
>> 
>
> You got something against getting dirty?
>   

Every work on a car?  Or how about crawling under a wheat truck in the 
dusty farm country to lube the truck?  Grease and oil aren't much fun to 
work with.  Electric cars are much cleaner.
> Jeez, talk about elitism!
>
> They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.

I don't care how much it pays it is still a dirty job.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Ultimate hailstorm

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> At least, one *hopes* it's the ultimate hailstorm! Unbelievable.
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/hail-storm-hits-oklahoma-19917666;_ylt=AqGdZBKrxkoRpDGo9haKo1uz174F;_ylu=X3oDMTE3dTVmdmJ1BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNtb3N0LXBvcHVsYXIEc2xrA2hhaWxzdG9ybWhpdA--
>
> http://tinyurl.com/27ys24s

Looks impressive hitting a pool of water but we really can't tell the 
size of the stones.  A couple weeks back when we had some large stones 
pouring down here I went to shoot with my camera but the downpour only 
lasted a few seconds each time and by the time the camera was ready it 
had stopped.  Who knows what that storm would have looked like hitting a 
pool.

[FairfieldLife] Rachel Maddow: Why Rand Paul Matters

[do.rflex]

Rachel Maddow with a really great follow up to her interview with Rand Paul 
last night and why his Libertarian views and what they mean to how he would 
govern if elected, matters.

Video: 
http://videocafe.crooksandliars.com/heather/rachel-maddow-why-rand-paul-matters 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Ooops! Didn't mean to duplicate your post Judy. I was typing
> mine while yours popped up.

No prob. You said it more eloquently than I did.

>From what I gather from reading TheOilDrum.com, working on
an oil rig is a very macho gig, dirty and difficult and
dangerous, and the workers are like a special fraternity
that takes great pride in what they do.

Now if we could only find them dirty, dangerous, difficult,
well-paid jobs that would satisfy their macho pride doing
something that wasn't so destructive to the environment and
didn't feed our oil addiction...

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Mike Dixon]

Ooops! Didn't mean to duplicate your post Judy. I was typing mine while yours 
popped up.




From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 3:32:06 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?

You got something against getting dirty?

Jeez, talk about elitism!

They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.





  

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Mike Dixon]

Bhairitu, am I getting this right, that you base what a good job is by how 
clean your work area is and how clean you are at the end of the work day?  
Those platform workers make a very nice living, probably approaching six 
figures, which they pay all kinds of taxes on. They keep money flowing into the 
Treasury(state and federal) and oil and gas for our cars, homes and businesses. 
Yes, they get hot and dirty, the Gulf of Mexico is very hot and humid, 
especially this time of year, and they spend days and weeks away from their 
families doing what they do. I would call being an oil rig worker an honorable 
job worthy of respect, which I'm sure millions of people would love to have 
right now.




From: Bhairitu 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 2:33:23 PM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

  


Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?

White Willy speaks with forked tongue.





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Meditation Numbers

[Buck]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "shukra69"  wrote:
>
> I have heard some things which suggest that the plan is to focus more 
> resources on getting the numbers nearer to 2500 over the next year and that 
> is what the message of financial restraint to MUM was about, more money may 
> go towards subsidies for new IA participants or additional Pundits ie why 
> subsidise foreign students who then dont choose to contribute to coherence 
> makes more sense to recruit the truly motivated
> 
> >
> > http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html
> >
>

May be so.  Would be nice to see the actual financial numbers.  MUM is ongoing 
though.
The administrative policy is to starve MUM to feed the domes?  

They have had ongoing troubles getting the meditation attendance numbers
they would like to have.  More than half the total daily
tally numbers shown includes the pundit boys.  That leaves some few hundreds
of meditators otherwise.  Students, faculty, staff, MUM & MSAE, town ru's, paid 
IA people.   

Particularly in their relationship with town ru's or the larger old meditating 
TM 
movement, their administrative problem might not even be with resource.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?

You got something against getting dirty?

Jeez, talk about elitism!

They're well-paid jobs, many of them highly skilled.

[FairfieldLife] Ultimate hailstorm

[authfriend]

At least, one *hopes* it's the ultimate hailstorm! Unbelievable.

http://news.yahoo.com/video/us-15749625/hail-storm-hits-oklahoma-19917666;_ylt=AqGdZBKrxkoRpDGo9haKo1uz174F;_ylu=X3oDMTE3dTVmdmJ1BHBvcwMxBHNlYwNtb3N0LXBvcHVsYXIEc2xrA2hhaWxzdG9ybWhpdA--

http://tinyurl.com/27ys24s

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

WillyTex wrote:
>   
>>> Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup...
>>>
>>>   
> Bhairitu:
>   
>> Then they definitely are too big to exist...
>>  
>> 
> You are sounding more un-American every day. 
>
> None of your crack-pot ideas has a chance to 
> succeed. The idea is to create more jobs, not 
> less. If you don't like off-shore drilling, 
> you should sell your car and quite whining. 
>   

What about more small businesses than big?  Have you ever watched what 
happens when a big business acquires a small one?  They lay off people 
in areas that will be duplicated.  When you break up companies these 
jobs come back.  Your thinking is flawed and you make no sense.

I'd be happy to have an electric car to use most of the time and leave 
the Forester for long trips.  But they still charge a premium for those 
electrics.  I might instead just replace the Forester with an even more 
fuel efficient smaller car since I don't really need the Forester 
anymore for hauling things. 
> British Petroleum will pay for the clean-up, 
> but that's not enough for you liberals I guess. 
> Let's trash another public business that 
> provides high-quality jobs for people. 
>   

We'll see if they pay for it all.  My bet is they're weasel out of it 
someway and the taxpayers will not even bleat.

Let's see high quality jobs like working on dirty oil rigs?

White Willy speaks with forked tongue.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[brian64705]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend"  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
> > Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers 
> > (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime
> > for BP's cleanup.
> 
> Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to
> pay 100 percent; that isn't in question.
> 
>   That should 
> > all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company.
> 
> It won't even come close to wiping them out.
>
Depends how you define "clean up". To restore the environment to it's condition 
prior to the accident ought to be the legal obligation. But that's such an 
inconceivably big task there will have to be compromises. And there's where the 
might of a big corporation will always win in the court.  Rand is coming off a 
little naive in this flush of publicity. And his avoiding to give direct 
answers is killing him. His father is much more open, and not afraid to state 
his opinion even if it's unpopular. On the environment Ron always promotes the 
control should be in the courts not in Govt regulation. It's controversial for 
sure. And I can't say I know which view is right - much as I hate govt 
regulation, I hate the control corporations have in the court room even more. 
Overall though its the monetary system which is the most important issue. If 
that fails nothing else matters. Ron Paul has been the best watchdog in 
Washington to alert us to the dangers of an unregulated, unaudited Federal 
Reserve. So I can overlook other areas I think he's a bit iffy on. The monetary 
system is the number one issue in my mind.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul really is the gift that keeps on giving

[WillyTex]

do.rflex:
> Is this guy for real?
> 
You sound really scared, John - too bad you 
don't vote anymore. So, what's it to you?

"But the real fun will start the day after 
the votes are counted because some of those 
Tea Party hayseeds will win, perhaps even a 
bunch of them. Then we'll see who gets the 
last laugh. You betcha..!"

'More Rand flaps to come and not just in Kentucky'
By Mark Tapscott
Washington Examiner, May 20, 2010  
http://tinyurl.com/25sq2kl

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[WillyTex]

> > Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup...
> >
Bhairitu:
> Then they definitely are too big to exist...
>  
You are sounding more un-American every day. 

None of your crack-pot ideas has a chance to 
succeed. The idea is to create more jobs, not 
less. If you don't like off-shore drilling, 
you should sell your car and quite whining. 

British Petroleum will pay for the clean-up, 
but that's not enough for you liberals I guess. 
Let's trash another public business that 
provides high-quality jobs for people. 

That doesn't even make any sense.

WASHINGTON — Taking another unconventional 
stand, Kentucky's Republican Senate nominee 
Rand Paul criticized President Barack Obama's 
handling of the Gulf oil spill Friday as 
anti-business and sounding "really un-American..."

Read more:

'Obama's criticism of BP sounds 'un-American'
By Michele Salcedo
Associated Press, May 28, 2010
http://tinyurl.com/2epg7au

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

authfriend wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
> 
>   
>> Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers 
>> (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime
>> for BP's cleanup.
>> 
>
> Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to
> pay 100 percent; that isn't in question.
>
>   That should 
>   
>> all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company.
>> 
>
> It won't even come close to wiping them out.
Then they definitely are too big to exist.

[FairfieldLife] Re: III 37 by Egenes// upasarga??

[cardemaister]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill"  wrote:
>
> So how does Egenes get "subordinate" for upasarga?
> 
> George Firestone sez -
> 
> upa + |s.rj
> 
> upa = to, unto, toward
> s.rj = to emit
> 
> But upasarga is "trouble" not "vighna" (obstruction)) which is how it is
> usually translated.
> 
> What gives Card?

Well, Bhoja's comment begins like this:

te praak-pratipaaditaaH phala-visheSaaH samaadheH prakarSaM
gacchata upasargaa upadravaa vighna-kaarinaH |

So, he seems to give as synonyms for 'upasarga' the words
'upadrava' and 'vighna-kaarin ("making vighna"), above
in plural:

upadravam. that which attacks or occurs suddenly , any grievous 
accident , misfortune , calamity , mischief , national distress (such as famine 
, plague , oppression , eclipse , &c.) ; national commotion , rebellion ; 
violence , outrage MBh. R. S3ak. VarBr2S. &c. [199,3] ; a supervenient disease 
or one brought on whilst a person labours under another Sus3r. ; the fourth of 
the five parts of a Sa1man stanza Shad2vBr. Comm. on TA1r. &c.

vighna  m. breaker, destroyer (---); m. (n.) obstacle, hindrance.

Thus, I have no idea how Egenes gets his 'subordinate'...



> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
> >
> >
> > 37. These (intuition and refined hearing, etc.) are proofs of
> awakening and yet are subordinate in samadhi.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Rand Paul really is the gift that keeps on giving

[do.rflex]

Is this guy for real?


Taking another unconventional stand, Kentucky's 
Republican Senate nominee Rand Paul criticized 
President Barack Obama's handling of the Gulf oil 
spill Friday as putting "his boot heel on the 
throat of BP" and "really un-American."  [...]

"What I don't like from the president's administration 
is this sort of, 'I'll put my boot heel on the throat 
of BP,'" Paul said in an interview with ABC's "Good 
Morning America." "I think that sounds really 
un-American in his criticism of business."


Well, sure. Because BP is a blameless victim.

Rand really is the gift that keeps on giving ... barely three days since he won 
the nomination and he's come out in favor of allowing discrimination based on 
skin color, in opposition of the Fair Housing Act and the Americans With 
Disabilities Act.

Links here: 
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/5/21/868540/-KY-Sen:-Paul-calls-criticism-of-BP-un-American


MORE on Rand Paul 
- by Joe Klein

The latest--an update from Michael Scherer's smart post below--is that Rand 
Paul is now saying that he regrets the appearance with Rachel Maddow, not the 
ridiculous statements he made in favor of a private business's ability to 
discriminate according to race.

I suspect that this will be the first of many such disasters for the Tea Party 
libertarians. They are about to find themselves faced with actual political 
rivals who will be more than happy to expose the utopian foolishness of their 
ideology.

This will be a rare moment of public education for an electorate that
doesn't pay sufficient attention to even the most important aspects of
democracy.

If Democrats play their cards right, by November most Americans will
know that Medicare is government health care,

that social security is a government pension service,

that all the bank bailout money either has been paid back or will be
covered by a modest tax on too-big-to-fail banks,

that the Obama stimulus package mostly consisted of tax cuts for them
and support for necessary local government functions like schools and cops--

and that the jobs-creating aspects of the stimulus package have been
remarkably free of corruption.

If the Republicans play their cards right, they will step away from the brink 
and recognize that a certain don't-tread-on-me libertarian spirit has always 
been close to the heart of the American dream, but that libertarian extremism 
has always been a loser--and that even Ronald Reagan found that he couldn't put 
a dent in the liberal social safety net because it was too popular.

Most extremist moments in American politics are passing fevers. Glenn Beck's 
ratings are down; his paranoid act is wearing thin. Balance
will eventually be restored--which, in this case, will probably mean
fewer Democrats in Congress (because their 2010 levels were unnaturally high, 
given past history), but it will also mean that more Republicans will 
understand the downside of demagogic extremism.

http://swampland.blogs.time.com/2010/05/20/more-on-rand-paul/

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[yifuxero]

right...I agree, and was disappointed - both at Hawking's presentation but more 
so at the factual prospects (slim to none): of physically reaching other 
planets beyond our solar system. Within our Solar system Mars is rather 
uninviting. The Moon might be OK for a station.
A completely different alternative is the Spiritual one.  I liked that movie 
with Dr. Manhattan meditating on Mars.  Recently I astral projected briefly in 
the dream state to Mars.
Just my opinion: in view of the seemingly near impossible task of traveling to 
other worlds in physical spacecraft; people can evolve to travel there 
astrally, and further beyond that, physical transmutation into Light bodies 
that can travel to other planets in an instant.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> 
> I was shocked at this statement. It shows that he doesn't think we'll
> ever find a way to go faster than the speed of light and so must
> necessarily imagine huge spaceship worlds that roam space and need raw
> materials now and then.
> 
> It is surprising that he, of all folks, would be so unimaginative when
> it comes to the ways to explore space. I maintain that any culture that
> could create an interstellar ship would have the ability to transmute
> matter into any element or be able to mine material from almost empty
> space or get all they want from comets etc.
> 
> There's so many planets out there that Earth, being in the suburbs of
> the galaxy, would not be the first choice. I do agree that if the speed
> of light is a true limit, then world sized ships are a possibility, but
> self-cloning robots the size of dust particles are a better way to
> explore. Hawking's right about aliens being dangerous in that their
> mindsets must be, well, alien, and that bodes for a lot of friction.
> 
> If faster than light speed is achieved, one has to at least assume that
> that species will be at minimum thousands of years advanced beyond our
> science and how then could they not be able to transmute elements at
> will?
> 
> Given the amount of planets we've already found with our poor
> instruments, it seems ever more likely that life is exceedingly abundant
> out there, and if so, then any space farers will have laws to obey,
> prime directives etc. On the whole, I'd score a FAIL for Hawking -- he
> doesn't seem to have even scanned the possibilities.which is even a
> bigger FAIL. I'm thinking he just rubber stamps these TV scripts and has
> almost zero input.
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > Â Â Â Â Â Â  History has shown that whenever a
> technological superior civilisation come into contact with an tech
> inferior civilisation, it has always been disastrous for the
> technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had always
> been resources.
> >
> > Â Â Â Â Â  Something to ponder about.
> >
> > "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder,
> rapine, and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a
> destiny imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while
> incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and
> paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or
> metal mines."
> > â€"John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
> > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
> >
> > Â
> > If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the
> space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of
> Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a
> new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the
> universe.
> >
> > An advanced spacefaring extraterrestrial civilization could end up
> wandering the universe in enormous spaceships on the prowl for vital
> materials after consuming the natural resources of their own world,
> Hawking explains in an episode of the show "Into the Universe with
> Stephen Hawking," which premiered Sunday on the Discovery Channel.
> >
> > "Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer
> and colonize whatever planets they could reach," Hawking said. "If so,
> it makes sense for them to exploit each new planet for material to build
> more spaceships so they could move on. Who knows what the limits would
> be?"
> >
> > Continue reading:
> > http://www.csmonito r.com/Science/ 2010/0427/ Stephen-Hawking-
> Aliens-may- not-come- in-peace
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:

> Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers 
> (particularly right wingers) don't want to pay a dime
> for BP's cleanup.

Taxpayers won't pay a dime for the cleanup. BP gets to
pay 100 percent; that isn't in question.

  That should 
> all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company.

It won't even come close to wiping them out.

[FairfieldLife] Rand Paul shoots himself in the foot

[Bhairitu]

Unlike his dad who has gained some favor even among progressives with 
his outspokenness against the warmongering, Rand Paul seems to be his 
own man and unapologetically too libertarian "corporations good, 
government bad."  He criticized Obama for being harsh on BP.  Well the 
big corporations do need to be spanked and maybe either broken up or 
nationalized.  I have had it with so much with laissez-faire capitalism 
and the unscrupulous "we do it because we can" attitude of their top 
execs that I now don't care if the world is subjected to socialism for 
the next 200 years.  The corporations are behaving like spoiled children 
and need to have their toys taken away from them and given a time out.

Rand Paul needs to understand that American taxpayers (particularly 
right wingers) don't want to pay a dime for BP's cleanup.  That should 
all be on their bill even if it wipes out the company.  But he is 
probably too lame to ever win the office.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ravi Guru's mad delusional behavior revealed.

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> I *understand* the points Bhairitu made about 
> Ravi just being Indian, and to some extent they
> are valid, and IMO have exacerbated the situation.
> Anyone who believes that having been born "Brahmin"
> makes him better or more evolved than anyone else
> is IMO already several miles down the road to 
> madness, even before you throw a little runaway 
> shakti into the mix. Someone with the kinds of 
> 'tudes about *women* that he has expressed here 
> *grew up with them*; they didn't happen overnight 
> as the result of an "awakening" of any kind.

Not only having been to India and also knowing a number of Indian folks 
locally I also had a couple of Indian engineers work for in the 1990s.  
One was very much like Ravi and a wild wacky guy.  But we all had fun 
with him as that wackiness is much more tolerable and taken as kidding 
when you are with someone like that face to face (where you can see the 
tongue in cheek).  The other engineer was quite and serious but a 
helluva nice guy too.

Chatting a local ayurveda practitioner who though looked like a typical 
American (or "white guy") turned out to be the son of the Indian woman 
running the grocery (dad must have been a "white guy.").   He told me 
that his ayurvedic teacher in India told him that most Indians are vata 
in vakriti and with a grin on his face pointed out that if you think 
about it a bit you can see why.   Ravi may well be flying high in the 
stratosphere with a vata imbalance (somewhat useful if your job is to 
find creative solutions to software problems).  And as such might not 
give a damn about what impression he leaves.  Line on air?

And Ravi, if you're reading which you say you are I may give you a call 
sometime and we can get together over espresso or chai maybe over your 
way.  And I may bring along Swami Abhayanand too.  Of course then I'll 
probably be blessed with a two way Hindi conversation though Swami when 
that happens often asks the other party to speak English so I'm not left 
out.  My Hindi is a little rusty these days. ;-)

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Bhairitu

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> Thanks for all the info. Really. I shall ponder it. Just 
> one more question -- do you hear anything bad about the
> Sony Android phones, such as the Experia X10? 
>
> Because the phone is essentially not only free to me, but
> a writeoff against taxes, "cost is no object." Of the ones
> offered by my current provider, the Sony looks to kick major
> ass, primarily because of its 8.1 Mb camera, as opposed to
> the other phones' 3 Mb cameras. Is there anything I should 
> know and be wary of if I choose to go the Sony route?

I haven't heard anything "bad" about the Experia but you might want to 
see if your provider has a "community" web forum and see if any X10 
users have posted experiences there. Often a very useful thing when 
considering some new hardware is to go to forums devoted to that 
product.  Sometimes the manufacturers have them under the support 
section mainly because it saves them money as power users tend to be 
better than hired tech support folks.

I'm really not that much of a hardware geek.  In fact like most software 
developers hate dealing with hardware.  That said I'm in the market for 
replacing my video editing machine which also doubles as development 
machine for some embedded systems.  Partly because a 3.2 Ghz P4 just 
doesn't cut it anymore and also because my computer insurance just ran 
out and the new policies they are issuing seem to be by each system you 
have and only good for the first 3 years.   The old policy was blanket 
and even covered my PDAs and cellphones regardless of age.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Bhairitu

[TurquoiseB]

Thanks for all the info. Really. I shall ponder it. Just 
one more question -- do you hear anything bad about the
Sony Android phones, such as the Experia X10? 

Because the phone is essentially not only free to me, but
a writeoff against taxes, "cost is no object." Of the ones
offered by my current provider, the Sony looks to kick major
ass, primarily because of its 8.1 Mb camera, as opposed to
the other phones' 3 Mb cameras. Is there anything I should 
know and be wary of if I choose to go the Sony route?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu  wrote:
>
> TurquoiseB wrote:
> > I have lamentably always been a fairly lame nerd with 
> > regard to mobile phones. All that mattered to me was
> > the ability to receive and make phone calls. I don't
> > even "text" people. Besides, with my aging eyes, some
> > of the text on the screens of fancier phones was just
> > too small for me to read.
> >
> > But now, with OS's like the iPhone's and Android, 
> > increasing the font size is a matter of a thumb-swipe,
> > so I can consider these smarter phones. And because 
> > I've made more money than usual this last quarter, my 
> > company has to find things to spend that money on, so 
> > that I don't have to give it all to the Spanish govern-
> > ment in corporate taxes. So I'm thinkin' of having my 
> > company buy me a cool Android phone.
> >
> > I know that you have one, and since you are usually
> > as knowledgeable about fun nerd toys as you are opinion-
> > ated about them, I thought I'd ask your opinion. :-)
> >
> > So what's a cool Android phone? I tend to like Samsung
> > equipment across the board, but really haven't invest-
> > igated any of these phones yet, so any recommendations
> > you might have would be of interest to me, and helpful.
> >   
> 
> Smartphones can be highly individualistic so you want to find one with 
> features you'll like.  I hear that Samsung makes great Android phones.  
> HTC, however, has the most experience making them.  That's why I chose 
> the HTC Droid Eris over the Motorola last fall.  That is other than 
> being a "cheapskate" and not wanting to pay the additional $100 for the 
> Motorola Droid.   I also knew my app customers were more likely to have 
> something like the Eris.  Hot Android phones are the Google Nexus and 
> now the Sprint HTC EVO a 4G phone that will launch next month and has my 
> real estate agent neighbor bugging me about it because she wants to dump 
> here Palm Treo for one.  The Nexus is also made by HTC.
> 
> But a lot of companies are making Android phones.  In fact any CE 
> company can make one as the least expensive license is free.  In fact 
> there are so many devices running Android that it is hard to keep up.  
> This includes a lot more than just phones.  So a good place to steer you 
> too is:
> http://phandroid.com/
> 
> There you'll find the latest news and rants about Android devices.
> 
> Also you might want to find a store that actually has working models to 
> play with.
> 
> Whether or not you'll want one with a keyboard is another individual 
> matter.  And the most important thing I can think of is you really won't 
> know what else you'll use it for until you actually have one and even 
> then it will take a while to discover all the possibilities.  It's 
> really a very powerful pocket computer.  Regarding keyboards, the Eris 
> has only the software keyboard.  But the most text entry I do would be 
> for searches and Google has a voice search which is excellent so you 
> just say you search terms into the phone and it will do the search.  
> Hell, it even knows Sanskrit. ;-)
> 
> You DO want one with Android 2.1 on it.  My Eris finally got 2.1 pushed 
> to it last Sunday night and boy did it make a difference.  Now I even a 
> turn-by-turn voice GPS (though I'll probably rarely use it).
> 
> > More important, since you obviously use and write apps
> > for Android phones, what are some of the cool ones?
> >   
> 
> Again, its an individual matter.  The apps I use the most came with the 
> phone.  I may wake up at 4 AM and roll over and go to HTC mail to see 
> what the chat is here.  Then maybe hit some of the news sites for news.  
> I can also play YouTube videos as well as some videos on sites because 
> HTC supplied a Flash player and Adobe is making Flash for Android.
> 
> I have two streaming radio apps for my walks.  I use XiiaLite for 
> Shoutcast streams.  I bought PrinterShare which works with my HP wifi 
> printer.  I even have a dog whistle app in case someone's bowser decides 
> I would make a nice lunch.
> 
> Unlike iTunes you can't really browse the Android Market unless you have 
> an Android phone, something that we developers have bitched about for 
> ages.  You can see the market through some third party web sites the 
> best being:
> http://www.androlib.com
> 
> Which brings me to the more memory on the phone itself the merrier.  The 
> Eris came with only 256MB of phone memory.   However it als

[FairfieldLife] Re: III 37 by Egenes// upasarga??

[emptybill]

So how does Egenes get "subordinate" for upasarga?

George Firestone sez -

upa + |s.rj

upa = to, unto, toward
s.rj = to emit

But upasarga is "trouble" not "vighna" (obstruction)) which is how it is
usually translated.

What gives Card?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
>
> 37. These (intuition and refined hearing, etc.) are proofs of
awakening and yet are subordinate in samadhi.
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Meditation Numbers

[It's just a ride]

Hey, I've been there when the foreign students tell RAs and teachers that
they are not going to do program, not going to do TM.  That's not what they
came here for, they say.  I'm fine with that.  Don't invite them.  Invite
people who we know will care about the numbers.

On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:58 AM, shukra69  wrote:

> I have heard some things which suggest that the plan is to focus more
> resources on getting the numbers nearer to 2500 over the next year and that
> is what the message of financial restraint to MUM was about, more money may
> go towards subsidies for new IA participants or additional Pundits ie why
> subsidise foreign students who then dont choose to contribute to coherence
> makes more sense to recruit the truly motivated
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> >
> > http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html
> >
>
>
>
>
> 
>
> To subscribe, send a message to:
> fairfieldlife-subscr...@yahoogroups.com
>
> Or go to:
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/
> and click 'Join This Group!'Yahoo! Groups Links
>
>
>
>


-- 
The psychic fair has been canceled due to unforeseen circumstances.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[Duveyoung]

http://www.centauri-dreams.org/?p=486

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> I'm aware of the math of light speed is as you've reported below, but even 
> now many avenues for "getting around" this "law" are being touted.  If 
> anything, worm holes, for instance.  
> 
> Of course a worm hole needs a type II civilization to build, and we're at 
> least a thousand years from that ability.  But, the universe is 13 billion 
> years old, so a type II civilization could have been achieved BILLIONS of 
> years before the Earth even was created.  
> 
> In short, there's been enough time for the universe to have produced, what? 
> -- how about ALL KNOWNLEDGE and ALL POWER.  If FTL speed is possible, it's 
> been figured out long ago.  Even without the possibility, the worm hole 
> concept could be, as in the film, Contact, already in place and so ancient 
> they can't even remember who invented the system.  All this seems to have 
> been tossed aside in Hawking's thinking when he comes out with "be afraid."  
> 
> Edg
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> > >
> > > 
> > > I was shocked at this statement. It shows that he doesn't think we'll
> > > ever find a way to go faster than the speed of light and so must
> > > necessarily imagine huge spaceship worlds that roam space and need raw
> > > materials now and then.
> > > 
> > > It is surprising that he, of all folks, would be so unimaginative when
> > > it comes to the ways to explore space. I maintain that any culture that
> > > could create an interstellar ship would have the ability to transmute
> > > matter into any element or be able to mine material from almost empty
> > > space or get all they want from comets etc.
> > > 
> > > There's so many planets out there that Earth, being in the suburbs of
> > > the galaxy, would not be the first choice. I do agree that if the speed
> > > of light is a true limit, then world sized ships are a possibility, but
> > > self-cloning robots the size of dust particles are a better way to
> > > explore. Hawking's right about aliens being dangerous in that their
> > > mindsets must be, well, alien, and that bodes for a lot of friction.
> > > 
> > > If faster than light speed is achieved, one has to at least assume that
> > > that species will be at minimum thousands of years advanced beyond our
> > > science and how then could they not be able to transmute elements at
> > > will?
> > > 
> > > Given the amount of planets we've already found with our poor
> > > instruments, it seems ever more likely that life is exceedingly abundant
> > > out there, and if so, then any space farers will have laws to obey,
> > > prime directives etc. On the whole, I'd score a FAIL for Hawking -- he
> > > doesn't seem to have even scanned the possibilities
> > 
> > You mean he doesn't seem to have watched Star Trek?
> > 
> > There is actually a very good reason why breaking light speed
> > isn't possible, it's to do with the conversion of matter into
> > energy and the relationship of mass to speed. To accelerate a
> > single particle of matter to light speed would require using
> > every particle in existence (including the one you are trying 
> > to move) as fuel. Which is a bit of an obstacle. 
> > 
> > But I can assure you he has considered it, I've read his book 
> > A brief history of time, well most of it. I doubt anyone gets 
> > past the bit about how quarks have to be spun round between 
> > 9 & 14 times before you see the same side again. Luckily it 
> > isn't possible to do this or see it if it was so it saves you
> > the trouble of going mad about what a funny old world it is!
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > .which is even a
> > > bigger FAIL. I'm thinking he just rubber stamps these TV scripts and has
> > > almost zero input.
> > > 
> > > Edg
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Â
> > > > Â Â Â Â Â Â  History has shown that whenever a
> > > technological superior civilisation come into contact with an tech
> > > inferior civilisation, it has always been disastrous for the
> > > technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had always
> > > been resources.
> > > >
> > > > Â Â Â Â Â  Something to ponder about.
> > > >
> > > > "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder,
> > > rapine, and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a
> > > destiny imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while
> > > incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and
> > > paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or
> > > metal mines."
> > > > â€"John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)
> > > >
> > > > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
> > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
> > > > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Bhairitu

[Bhairitu]

Fine with me.  The data service is good but not as fast as wifi.  
Sprint's 4G will be faster and more carriers will be moving to 4G.  The 
slowness of US telecoms to move to newer technologies is a testament to 
how "competition" does not necessarily improve things.  The bigger the 
company the slower it moves. There is an FCC report out this morning 
that wireless services are too concentrated.  If we had "national 
broadband" one might not even need a phone plan and could use VoIP instead.

However Google is quickly leaving the Steve Jobs Designer Gadget Company 
in the dust.  Oh today's corporate wars that were once confined to 
science fiction.

Duveyoung wrote:
> Heh heh, "Take my wifi, please" sez Bhairitu.
>
> Edg
>
>
> My phone will take my wifi connection over the Verizon data when 
>   
>> in the house and of course my wifi is much faster.  I can also use 
>> hotspots if I want.
>>
>> That's probably more than you want to know.  You will also want to find 
>> out how Android support is from your present carrier.  It is all 
>> different from country to country.
>>
>> 
>
>
>
>   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Questions for Bhairitu

[Duveyoung]

Heh heh, "Take my wifi, please" sez Bhairitu.

Edg


My phone will take my wifi connection over the Verizon data when 
> in the house and of course my wifi is much faster.  I can also use 
> hotspots if I want.
> 
> That's probably more than you want to know.  You will also want to find 
> out how Android support is from your present carrier.  It is all 
> different from country to country.
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "do.rflex"  wrote:
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
> wrote:
> >
> > Ummm, I think the Dems took the congress in 2006,
> 
> Uh, the Democrats took the majority when they took office in 
> January of 2007. After 7 years of BushCo-nomics, the recession
> had already been set by Bush and his rubber stamp Congress.
> Trying to shift blame to the Democrats is laughable, Dix.

Mike is just pointing out that the do.rk got two *very*
basic facts wrong. The do.rk wrote:

"The recession started in December of 2007 under Bush and his
GOP Congress."

Wrong. In December of 2007, Congress was Democratic.

"The financial meltdown occurred in September 2008 under Bush
and his GOP Congress."

Wrong. In September of 2008, Congress was *still* Democratic.

The do.rk can't bring himself to say, "Ooops, silly me."

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off Into the Sunset

[Duveyoung]

I'll miss ya.  Does ya gots a Facebook page or sumptin' else we can use to keep 
tabs on ya?

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
> >
> > I have a busy time coming up and I need to streamline my time a bit. 
> > 
> > I have enjoyed many conversations on FFL -- have learned some good things 
> > -- and clarified my thinking on interesting topics. 
> > 
> > I wish all of you the best in your endeavors and in realizing your dreams. 
> > 
> > (And for the sake of all, I hope the high drama soon settles down in the 
> > world of the awakened.)
> 
> Fare thee well dude!
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[Duveyoung]

I'm aware of the math of light speed is as you've reported below, but even now 
many avenues for "getting around" this "law" are being touted.  If anything, 
worm holes, for instance.  

Of course a worm hole needs a type II civilization to build, and we're at least 
a thousand years from that ability.  But, the universe is 13 billion years old, 
so a type II civilization could have been achieved BILLIONS of years before the 
Earth even was created.  

In short, there's been enough time for the universe to have produced, what? -- 
how about ALL KNOWNLEDGE and ALL POWER.  If FTL speed is possible, it's been 
figured out long ago.  Even without the possibility, the worm hole concept 
could be, as in the film, Contact, already in place and so ancient they can't 
even remember who invented the system.  All this seems to have been tossed 
aside in Hawking's thinking when he comes out with "be afraid."  

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Hugo"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
> >
> > 
> > I was shocked at this statement. It shows that he doesn't think we'll
> > ever find a way to go faster than the speed of light and so must
> > necessarily imagine huge spaceship worlds that roam space and need raw
> > materials now and then.
> > 
> > It is surprising that he, of all folks, would be so unimaginative when
> > it comes to the ways to explore space. I maintain that any culture that
> > could create an interstellar ship would have the ability to transmute
> > matter into any element or be able to mine material from almost empty
> > space or get all they want from comets etc.
> > 
> > There's so many planets out there that Earth, being in the suburbs of
> > the galaxy, would not be the first choice. I do agree that if the speed
> > of light is a true limit, then world sized ships are a possibility, but
> > self-cloning robots the size of dust particles are a better way to
> > explore. Hawking's right about aliens being dangerous in that their
> > mindsets must be, well, alien, and that bodes for a lot of friction.
> > 
> > If faster than light speed is achieved, one has to at least assume that
> > that species will be at minimum thousands of years advanced beyond our
> > science and how then could they not be able to transmute elements at
> > will?
> > 
> > Given the amount of planets we've already found with our poor
> > instruments, it seems ever more likely that life is exceedingly abundant
> > out there, and if so, then any space farers will have laws to obey,
> > prime directives etc. On the whole, I'd score a FAIL for Hawking -- he
> > doesn't seem to have even scanned the possibilities
> 
> You mean he doesn't seem to have watched Star Trek?
> 
> There is actually a very good reason why breaking light speed
> isn't possible, it's to do with the conversion of matter into
> energy and the relationship of mass to speed. To accelerate a
> single particle of matter to light speed would require using
> every particle in existence (including the one you are trying 
> to move) as fuel. Which is a bit of an obstacle. 
> 
> But I can assure you he has considered it, I've read his book 
> A brief history of time, well most of it. I doubt anyone gets 
> past the bit about how quarks have to be spun round between 
> 9 & 14 times before you see the same side again. Luckily it 
> isn't possible to do this or see it if it was so it saves you
> the trouble of going mad about what a funny old world it is!
> 
> 
> 
> .which is even a
> > bigger FAIL. I'm thinking he just rubber stamps these TV scripts and has
> > almost zero input.
> > 
> > Edg
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
> > >
> > > Â
> > > Â Â Â Â Â Â  History has shown that whenever a
> > technological superior civilisation come into contact with an tech
> > inferior civilisation, it has always been disastrous for the
> > technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had always
> > been resources.
> > >
> > > Â Â Â Â Â  Something to ponder about.
> > >
> > > "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder,
> > rapine, and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a
> > destiny imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while
> > incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and
> > paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or
> > metal mines."
> > > â€"John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)
> > >
> > > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
> > > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
> > >
> > > Â
> > > If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the
> > space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of
> > Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a
> > new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets

[FairfieldLife] RE: FL-195 still not received from law firm

[Rick Archer]

Ravi, you don't have disciples because you're not a guru. No one but yourself 
thinks you are. You are apparently suffering a serious mental destabilization 
due to the intensity of your Kundalini awakening. I've seen many of these, and 
spiritual literature is rife with them. Swami Dayamrita is aware of your 
situation and is contacting Amma about it. You would benefit greatly from 
reading Halfway 

  Up the Mountain: The Error of Premature Claims to Enlightenment. I think I'll 
start a book list on batgap.com and add that to it. A little humility would go 
a long way with you. Your ego has appropriated the greatness of your awakening. 
It's not the ego that gets awakened. Greater humility accompanies genuine 
awakening.
 
From: Ravi Chivukula [mailto:chivukula.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:18 AM
To: Rick Archer
Subject: Re: FL-195 still not received from law firm
 
Thank you - I'm in bliss regardless of everything. But I have to do my "karma" 
to protect myself and my disciples..
 
Love - Ravi guru.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
Will do. I hope you're OK.
 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions for Bhairitu

[Bhairitu]

TurquoiseB wrote:
> I have lamentably always been a fairly lame nerd with 
> regard to mobile phones. All that mattered to me was
> the ability to receive and make phone calls. I don't
> even "text" people. Besides, with my aging eyes, some
> of the text on the screens of fancier phones was just
> too small for me to read.
>
> But now, with OS's like the iPhone's and Android, 
> increasing the font size is a matter of a thumb-swipe,
> so I can consider these smarter phones. And because 
> I've made more money than usual this last quarter, my 
> company has to find things to spend that money on, so 
> that I don't have to give it all to the Spanish govern-
> ment in corporate taxes. So I'm thinkin' of having my 
> company buy me a cool Android phone.
>
> I know that you have one, and since you are usually
> as knowledgeable about fun nerd toys as you are opinion-
> ated about them, I thought I'd ask your opinion. :-)
>
> So what's a cool Android phone? I tend to like Samsung
> equipment across the board, but really haven't invest-
> igated any of these phones yet, so any recommendations
> you might have would be of interest to me, and helpful.
>   

Smartphones can be highly individualistic so you want to find one with 
features you'll like.  I hear that Samsung makes great Android phones.  
HTC, however, has the most experience making them.  That's why I chose 
the HTC Droid Eris over the Motorola last fall.  That is other than 
being a "cheapskate" and not wanting to pay the additional $100 for the 
Motorola Droid.   I also knew my app customers were more likely to have 
something like the Eris.  Hot Android phones are the Google Nexus and 
now the Sprint HTC EVO a 4G phone that will launch next month and has my 
real estate agent neighbor bugging me about it because she wants to dump 
here Palm Treo for one.  The Nexus is also made by HTC.

But a lot of companies are making Android phones.  In fact any CE 
company can make one as the least expensive license is free.  In fact 
there are so many devices running Android that it is hard to keep up.  
This includes a lot more than just phones.  So a good place to steer you 
too is:
http://phandroid.com/

There you'll find the latest news and rants about Android devices.

Also you might want to find a store that actually has working models to 
play with.

Whether or not you'll want one with a keyboard is another individual 
matter.  And the most important thing I can think of is you really won't 
know what else you'll use it for until you actually have one and even 
then it will take a while to discover all the possibilities.  It's 
really a very powerful pocket computer.  Regarding keyboards, the Eris 
has only the software keyboard.  But the most text entry I do would be 
for searches and Google has a voice search which is excellent so you 
just say you search terms into the phone and it will do the search.  
Hell, it even knows Sanskrit. ;-)

You DO want one with Android 2.1 on it.  My Eris finally got 2.1 pushed 
to it last Sunday night and boy did it make a difference.  Now I even a 
turn-by-turn voice GPS (though I'll probably rarely use it).

> More important, since you obviously use and write apps
> for Android phones, what are some of the cool ones?
>   

Again, its an individual matter.  The apps I use the most came with the 
phone.  I may wake up at 4 AM and roll over and go to HTC mail to see 
what the chat is here.  Then maybe hit some of the news sites for news.  
I can also play YouTube videos as well as some videos on sites because 
HTC supplied a Flash player and Adobe is making Flash for Android.

I have two streaming radio apps for my walks.  I use XiiaLite for 
Shoutcast streams.  I bought PrinterShare which works with my HP wifi 
printer.  I even have a dog whistle app in case someone's bowser decides 
I would make a nice lunch.

Unlike iTunes you can't really browse the Android Market unless you have 
an Android phone, something that we developers have bitched about for 
ages.  You can see the market through some third party web sites the 
best being:
http://www.androlib.com

Which brings me to the more memory on the phone itself the merrier.  The 
Eris came with only 256MB of phone memory.   However it also came with a 
8 GB SD card so much is kept there and some apps will download stuff to 
it for use.

> I know *diddleysquat* about phone apps. Can't say I 
> have ever used one or lusted after one, with the excep-
> tion of Jamie Oliver's "20 Minute Recipes" app for the
> iPhone. Shake the phone, and it gives you a healthy
> recipe you can make in 20 minutes, at random from a 
> database of such recipes. I hear it's the biggest-
> selling iPhone app in the UK, and one of the biggest-
> selling worldwide. Hearing about it almost made me
> buy an iPhone.
>   

Again it's an individual thing.  One thing is people don't like to pay 
for apps so many are advertising supported.  And if you do charge for an 
app you want to scale it down to ke

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2 Indian states converting to all-organic farming

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:15 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2 Indian states converting to all-organic
farming
 
Wonderful news, perhaps I'll send a copy to Monsanto ! :-)
Maybe you shouldn't. They might try to stop it.

[FairfieldLife] More from Ravi

[Rick Archer]

From: Ravi Chivukula [mailto:chivukula.r...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 11:19 AM
To: Rick Archer
Subject: Re: FL-195 still not received from law firm
 
Forward this as well
 
Change is "Ravi guru" not "Barack Obama" 

 
http://www.facebook.com/notes/ravi-chivukula/change-is-ravi-guru-not-barack-obama/397094783566.
 
Love - Ravi guru.
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Ravi Chivukula  
wrote:
Thank you - I'm in bliss regardless of everything. But I have to do my "karma" 
to protect myself and my disciples..
 
Love - Ravi guru.
 
On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Rick Archer  wrote:
Will do. I hope you're OK.
 
 

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years

[do.rflex]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon 
wrote:
>
> Ummm, I think the Dems took the congress in 2006,


Uh, the Democrats took the majority when they took office in January of
2007. After 7 years of BushCo-nomics, the recession had already been set
by Bush and his rubber stamp Congress. Trying to shift blame to the
Democrats is laughable, Dix. Nobody buys that one.

There sure are a lot of right wing sore losers though.


>
not Republicans. The typical recession lasts about 18 months. I guess
with all these new entrepreneurial jobs Barack Hussein Obama has
*created*or *saved*Â government revenue must be sky high and the
deficit and national debt must be shrinking at an alarming rate! Does
the Kauffman Index consider cleaning car windows at an intersection an
entrepreneurial job?
>



Right winger GOP cheerleaders like Mr Dixon from Dixie apparently have
some difficulty with the reality that BushCo wrecked the economy and
that Obama was stuck with fixing their mess.

Further, as the graph illustrated more jobs were lost during BushCo than
since the Hoover administration. The graph - which you seem to hide from
- shows the turn around since Obama took office in January 2009:


  [america]
Graph link: 
http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/america.jpg


Here's some of what has happenned since Obama took office:

~~U.S. Enters Recovery as Stimulus Refutes Skeptics~~
Bloomberg:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=a7iQTrYFwTtY



~~U.S. Economy Gets Lift From Stimulus~~
Wall Street Journal:
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125185379218478087.html



~~Germany, France out of recession~~
Guardian [UK]:
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/aug/13/germany-france-emerge-rec\
ession



~~Japan Steps out of Recession~~
BBC: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8205072.stm



~~UK Officially Out of Recession~~
http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2009/sep/08/uk-factory-output-recessi\
on-recovery



~~Across the nation, housing starts are rising~~
Journal Sentinal: http://www.jsonline.com/business/53623677.html



~~Retail sales rose at the swiftest rate in three years in August~~
http://www.forbes.com/2009/09/15/briefing-americas-open-markets-equities\
-retail.html



~~U.S. household wealth up for first time since 2007~~
http://www.reuters.com/article/marketsNews/idUSN173520090917



~~US leading economic index up for fifth month in a row~~
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20090921/ts_alt_afp/useconomygrowthindex



~~Obama loan relief plan hits goal early ~~
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5gOGPH5tuY5PvE2_kbh0FBQ\
PiqnUQD9B6V
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~~Obama's mortgage relief program growing ~~
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090909/ap_on_re_us/us_foreclosure_aid



~~Dow passes 10,000 mark on earnings optimism~~first time in a year
http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5881Q720091014



~~GDP Grew 3.2 percent as Stimulus Took Hold: U.S. Economy Preview~~
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&sid=aDGvmWmB18w0



~~Jobs outlook brightens - National Association for Business Economics
says more U.S. firms are planning to hire and increase investment in
the next six months~~~
http://money.cnn.com/2009/10/26/news/economy/NABE/?postversion=200910261\
2



~~U.S. Goods Orders Rise for Fourth Time in Six Months ~~

Orders for U.S. durable goods rose in September for the fourth time in
the past six months, a sign factories are helping ring in an economic
recovery.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601068&sid=aXTOqhc6Ac4I




~~USA Today: Stimulus working, having "significant impact on economy"~~
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-10-27-jobs_N.htm



~~ Economy grows in 3Q, signals end of recession~~
http://csbj.com/2009/10/29/economy-grows-in-3q-signals-end-of-recession/

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2 Indian states converting to all-organic farming

[nablusoss1008]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rick Archer"  wrote:
>
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/kerala-starts-10-year-conversion-all
> -organic-agriculture.php
> Food & Health
> Indian State of Kerala Starts 10-Year Conversion to All-Organic Farming
> by Matthew McDermott
> New York, NY on 05.19.10
>  
> The southern Indian state of Kerala has officially announced a new farming
> policy which aims to covert all agriculture in the state to organic methods
> over the next ten years. In the first phase 30,000 hectares converted, The
> Hindu Business Line reports, and then proceeds in a "phased and compact
> manner."
>  
> The policy advocates adopting a compact area group approach in organic
> farming by encouraging formation of organic farmers groups, clubs, self-help
> groups and cooperatives for the purpose of cultivation, input production,
> certification and marketing. There is need for ensuring organic farming
> approach in all the watershed development areas and extend support,
> including capacity building and financial assistance, for soil and water
> conservation measures through ongoing programmes.
>  
> In order the facilitate the transition, the policy highlights the need to
> provide interest-free loans to small and marginal farmers.
>  
> Read more: The Hindu Business Line
> http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/18/stories/2010051851902300.htm
>  
> C TreeHugger.com 2010
>  
>  
>  
> http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/sikkim-farms-entirely-organic-2015.p
> hp
> Indian State of Sikkim's Farms to be Entirely Organic by 2015
> by Matthew McDermott
> New York, NY on 05. 7.10
>  
> Nestled in between Nepal, Tibet and Bhutan the small Indian state of Sikkim
> is probably best known for its mountainous beauty and as being home to the
> red panda, but by 2015 it's going to have another notable distinction:
> Converting all its farms to certified organic agriculture.
>  
> The Economic Times reports that the state has been slowing use of chemical
> fertilizer since 2003 and has currently converted 6,000 of its 70,000
> hectares of farm land.
>  
> Human Health, Environment, Tourism All Hoped to Benefit
>  
> Initially the chemical phase-out was done because of the effects on soil,
> water and human health, but the state also hopes going organic will boost
> its tourist economy. "Village tourism in Sikkim will obviously improve.
> Homestays will become more popular," according to the general secretary of
> the state travel agents' association.
>  
> From a policy angle, the phase-out began with the ending of a government
> subsidy on chemical fertilizers, then three years later retail commission
> subsidies were also withdrawn and a seven-year plan adopted for entirely
> ending their use.
>  
> C TreeHugger.com 2010


Wonderful news, perhaps I'll send a copy to Monsanto ! :-)

RE: [FairfieldLife] News from Ravi

[Rick Archer]

From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:fairfieldl...@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Friday, May 21, 2010 10:45 AM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] News from Ravi
 
  
On May 21, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Rick Archer wrote:

> Michael & Katie
> 
> Turns out my life is in danger, I'm in Malden MA with my brother you can
reach me at 408-505-9815. If we can register a case or get free lawyer
services it would be great, like you know I don't have a penny..LOL..
> 
> Your guru, spiritual pimp..LOL..Ravi Guru.

Looks like he may be even crazier off the forum 
than on. I hope those around him are able to get
him into whatever treatment they can.

Did he ever respond directly to your email Rick?
Yes. With what I forwarded. He also rejoined the BatGap chat group. Stay
tuned.

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off Into the Sunset

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, tartbrain  wrote:
>
> I have a busy time coming up and I need to streamline my time a bit. 
> 
> I have enjoyed many conversations on FFL -- have learned some good things -- 
> and clarified my thinking on interesting topics. 
> 
> I wish all of you the best in your endeavors and in realizing your dreams. 
> 
> (And for the sake of all, I hope the high drama soon settles down in the 
> world of the awakened.)

Fare thee well dude!

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[Hugo]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Duveyoung  wrote:
>
> 
> I was shocked at this statement. It shows that he doesn't think we'll
> ever find a way to go faster than the speed of light and so must
> necessarily imagine huge spaceship worlds that roam space and need raw
> materials now and then.
> 
> It is surprising that he, of all folks, would be so unimaginative when
> it comes to the ways to explore space. I maintain that any culture that
> could create an interstellar ship would have the ability to transmute
> matter into any element or be able to mine material from almost empty
> space or get all they want from comets etc.
> 
> There's so many planets out there that Earth, being in the suburbs of
> the galaxy, would not be the first choice. I do agree that if the speed
> of light is a true limit, then world sized ships are a possibility, but
> self-cloning robots the size of dust particles are a better way to
> explore. Hawking's right about aliens being dangerous in that their
> mindsets must be, well, alien, and that bodes for a lot of friction.
> 
> If faster than light speed is achieved, one has to at least assume that
> that species will be at minimum thousands of years advanced beyond our
> science and how then could they not be able to transmute elements at
> will?
> 
> Given the amount of planets we've already found with our poor
> instruments, it seems ever more likely that life is exceedingly abundant
> out there, and if so, then any space farers will have laws to obey,
> prime directives etc. On the whole, I'd score a FAIL for Hawking -- he
> doesn't seem to have even scanned the possibilities

You mean he doesn't seem to have watched Star Trek?

There is actually a very good reason why breaking light speed
isn't possible, it's to do with the conversion of matter into
energy and the relationship of mass to speed. To accelerate a
single particle of matter to light speed would require using
every particle in existence (including the one you are trying 
to move) as fuel. Which is a bit of an obstacle. 

But I can assure you he has considered it, I've read his book 
A brief history of time, well most of it. I doubt anyone gets 
past the bit about how quarks have to be spun round between 
9 & 14 times before you see the same side again. Luckily it 
isn't possible to do this or see it if it was so it saves you
the trouble of going mad about what a funny old world it is!



.which is even a
> bigger FAIL. I'm thinking he just rubber stamps these TV scripts and has
> almost zero input.
> 
> Edg
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
> >
> > Â
> > Â Â Â Â Â Â  History has shown that whenever a
> technological superior civilisation come into contact with an tech
> inferior civilisation, it has always been disastrous for the
> technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had always
> been resources.
> >
> > Â Â Â Â Â  Something to ponder about.
> >
> > "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder,
> rapine, and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a
> destiny imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while
> incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and
> paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or
> metal mines."
> > â€"John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)
> >
> > --- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex do.rflex@ wrote:
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
> > Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
> >
> > Â
> > If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the
> space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of
> Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a
> new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the
> universe.
> >
> > An advanced spacefaring extraterrestrial civilization could end up
> wandering the universe in enormous spaceships on the prowl for vital
> materials after consuming the natural resources of their own world,
> Hawking explains in an episode of the show "Into the Universe with
> Stephen Hawking," which premiered Sunday on the Discovery Channel.
> >
> > "Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer
> and colonize whatever planets they could reach," Hawking said. "If so,
> it makes sense for them to exploit each new planet for material to build
> more spaceships so they could move on. Who knows what the limits would
> be?"
> >
> > Continue reading:
> > http://www.csmonito r.com/Science/ 2010/0427/ Stephen-Hawking-
> Aliens-may- not-come- in-peace
> >
> >
> > Â
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: News from Ravi

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter  wrote:
>
> Hopefully Ravi will come to the attention of someone who
> will recognize what he is going through and will get him
> the help that he seems to need. I've been looking at
> several of his posts and he does seem to be progressively
> loosing contact with consensual waking-state reality. He
> seems to be quite paranoid. Its a little hard to know how
> much of this is reality based; I'm sure some of it is, but
> fleeing for his life?

Pete, could that be a distorted form of suicidal thinking,
i.e., what he's really trying to flee are his own impulses?

[FairfieldLife] 2 Indian states converting to all-organic farming

[Rick Archer]

http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/kerala-starts-10-year-conversion-all
-organic-agriculture.php
Food & Health
Indian State of Kerala Starts 10-Year Conversion to All-Organic Farming
by Matthew McDermott
New York, NY on 05.19.10
 
The southern Indian state of Kerala has officially announced a new farming
policy which aims to covert all agriculture in the state to organic methods
over the next ten years. In the first phase 30,000 hectares converted, The
Hindu Business Line reports, and then proceeds in a "phased and compact
manner."
 
The policy advocates adopting a compact area group approach in organic
farming by encouraging formation of organic farmers groups, clubs, self-help
groups and cooperatives for the purpose of cultivation, input production,
certification and marketing. There is need for ensuring organic farming
approach in all the watershed development areas and extend support,
including capacity building and financial assistance, for soil and water
conservation measures through ongoing programmes.
 
In order the facilitate the transition, the policy highlights the need to
provide interest-free loans to small and marginal farmers.
 
Read more: The Hindu Business Line
http://www.thehindubusinessline.com/2010/05/18/stories/2010051851902300.htm
 
C TreeHugger.com 2010
 
 
 
http://www.treehugger.com/files/2010/05/sikkim-farms-entirely-organic-2015.p
hp
Indian State of Sikkim's Farms to be Entirely Organic by 2015
by Matthew McDermott
New York, NY on 05. 7.10
 
Nestled in between Nepal, Tibet and Bhutan the small Indian state of Sikkim
is probably best known for its mountainous beauty and as being home to the
red panda, but by 2015 it's going to have another notable distinction:
Converting all its farms to certified organic agriculture.
 
The Economic Times reports that the state has been slowing use of chemical
fertilizer since 2003 and has currently converted 6,000 of its 70,000
hectares of farm land.
 
Human Health, Environment, Tourism All Hoped to Benefit
 
Initially the chemical phase-out was done because of the effects on soil,
water and human health, but the state also hopes going organic will boost
its tourist economy. "Village tourism in Sikkim will obviously improve.
Homestays will become more popular," according to the general secretary of
the state travel agents' association.
 
>From a policy angle, the phase-out began with the ending of a government
subsidy on chemical fertilizers, then three years later retail commission
subsidies were also withdrawn and a seven-year plan adopted for entirely
ending their use.
 
C TreeHugger.com 2010



-- 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[Duveyoung]

I was shocked at this statement. It shows that he doesn't think we'll
ever find a way to go faster than the speed of light and so must
necessarily imagine huge spaceship worlds that roam space and need raw
materials now and then.

It is surprising that he, of all folks, would be so unimaginative when
it comes to the ways to explore space. I maintain that any culture that
could create an interstellar ship would have the ability to transmute
matter into any element or be able to mine material from almost empty
space or get all they want from comets etc.

There's so many planets out there that Earth, being in the suburbs of
the galaxy, would not be the first choice. I do agree that if the speed
of light is a true limit, then world sized ships are a possibility, but
self-cloning robots the size of dust particles are a better way to
explore. Hawking's right about aliens being dangerous in that their
mindsets must be, well, alien, and that bodes for a lot of friction.

If faster than light speed is achieved, one has to at least assume that
that species will be at minimum thousands of years advanced beyond our
science and how then could they not be able to transmute elements at
will?

Given the amount of planets we've already found with our poor
instruments, it seems ever more likely that life is exceedingly abundant
out there, and if so, then any space farers will have laws to obey,
prime directives etc. On the whole, I'd score a FAIL for Hawking -- he
doesn't seem to have even scanned the possibilities.which is even a
bigger FAIL. I'm thinking he just rubber stamps these TV scripts and has
almost zero input.

Edg




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
>
> Â
> Â Â Â Â Â Â  History has shown that whenever a
technological superior civilisation come into contact with an tech
inferior civilisation, it has always been disastrous for the
technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had always
been resources.
>
> Â Â Â Â Â  Something to ponder about.
>
> "The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder,
rapine, and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a
destiny imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while
incidentally capturing their markets, to civilize savage and senile and
paranoidal peoples while blundering accidentally into their oil wells or
metal mines."
> â€"John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)
>
> --- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex do.rf...@... wrote:
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
> Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM
>
> Â
> If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the
space, they might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of
Earth are looking for, famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a
new television series chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the
universe.
>
> An advanced spacefaring extraterrestrial civilization could end up
wandering the universe in enormous spaceships on the prowl for vital
materials after consuming the natural resources of their own world,
Hawking explains in an episode of the show "Into the Universe with
Stephen Hawking," which premiered Sunday on the Discovery Channel.
>
> "Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer
and colonize whatever planets they could reach," Hawking said. "If so,
it makes sense for them to exploit each new planet for material to build
more spaceships so they could move on. Who knows what the limits would
be?"
>
> Continue reading:
> http://www.csmonito r.com/Science/ 2010/0427/ Stephen-Hawking-
Aliens-may- not-come- in-peace
>
>
> Â
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worry Free?

[shukra69]

this one is an excellent equivalent for pittas though the gingko gives some 
pittas headaches:
http://ayurveda-herbs.com/15b.htm

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> Anybody tried Worry Free?
> Any comments?
> 
> http://www.mapi.com/maharishi_ayurveda/products/ayurveda_herbal_remedies/worryfreetabs.html
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years

[Mike Dixon]

In addition, and I don't have any official stats to back this up, but I've 
heard many years ago, that most small businesses fail within a couple of years 
any way. I would think that if someone starts a business out of desperation, 
they also claim it as a tax write- off which shows the government a new 
business was started.


From: authfriend 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, May 21, 2010 6:26:44 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
Years

  
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Ummm, I think the Dems took the congress in 2006, not 
> Republicans.

And it looks like he may not have read past the first
couple of sentences in the article he links to, because
it isn't all that positive. In many cases the new
entrepreneurs started their own businesses out of 
desperation because they couldn't find jobs, using money
borrowed from friends and family, and they may have a
tough time getting bank loans to keep them going and
allow them to do any hiring.

Already established small businesses are going to have
trouble too given the reluctance of the banks to lend.

And like you, I'd be interested to know the survey's
definition of "entrepreneur." Does it include one-person
businesses whose offices are the kitchen table? How much
money do they bring in? How many jobs can they be
expected to create?

Goodness knows Obama has had an almost impossible task
trying to remedy the disaster he was handed by the Bush
administration, and generally he's made the right moves,
although in many cases they weren't nearly big enough.
Some aspects of the economy are improving, but things
are still in very iffy shape. It's not at all clear
the economy has the strength to resist being dragged
down by the mess in Europe.

Unbridled optimism is not the appropriate attitude here.

The typical recession lasts about 18 months. I guess with all these new 
entrepreneurial jobs Barack Hussein Obama has *created*or *saved* government 
revenue must be sky high and the deficit and national debt must be shrinking at 
an alarming rate! Does the Kauffman Index consider cleaning car windows at an 
intersection an entrepreneurial job?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: do.rflex 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 5:04:29 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
> Years
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I guess that's why we have such low unemployment these days.:-)
> > 
> 
> Let's see. 
> 
> The recession started in December of 2007 under Bush and his GOP Congress. 
> 
> The financial meltdown occurred in September 2008 under Bush and his GOP 
> Congress. 
> 
> Obama took office in January of 2009. 
> 
> Yeah. It's now going to take a colossal effort to clean up the catastrophic 
> financial disaster and the massive job losses that the Bush administration 
> and the GOP controlled Congress left behind and Obama inherited. 
> 
> However there's some very good news. Since Obama took office the massive job 
> loss has dramatically turned in the other direction as the following graph 
> clearly indicates: 
> 
> 
> 
> america src="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/america.jpg"; 
> width=500 height=354>
> Graph link: http://thinkprogres s.org/wp- content/uploads/ 2010/04/america. 
> jpg
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  _ _ __
> > From: do.rflex do.rflex@
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:24:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
> > Years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Record growth among entrepreneurs in U.S.
> > By Ian Swanson - 05/20/10 06:00 AM ET 
> >        More entrepreneurs launched new businesses in 2009 
> > than at any other time in the past 14 years, according to a study released 
> > Thursday. 
> > The figures from the Kauffman Index of Entrepreneurial Activity report that 
> > entrepreneurs have remained a strength of the U.S. economy amid one of the 
> > worst recessions on record.
> >
>





  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Dome Meditation Numbers

[shukra69]

I have heard some things which suggest that the plan is to focus more resources 
on getting the numbers nearer to 2500 over the next year and that is what the 
message of financial restraint to MUM was about, more money may go towards 
subsidies for new IA participants or additional Pundits ie why subsidise 
foreign students who then dont choose to contribute to coherence makes more 
sense to recruit the truly motivated

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html
>

[FairfieldLife] UFOs in the Nuclear Age - interview with Robert Hastings

[nablusoss1008]

  UFOs
in the Nuclear Age  [Robert Hastings] Interview with Robert Hastings
by Jason Francis
An excerpt

Robert Hastings is a UFO researcher who has focused on UFO activity
around nuclear weapons sites. Since 1973 he has been interviewing former
or retired military personnel who have described their experiences of
UFOs while on active duty. Since 1981 Hastings has lectured at more than
500 colleges and universities in the US. The research he has done over
the years forms the basis of his 2008 book, UFOs and Nukes:
Extraordinary Encounters at Nuclear Weapons Sites. Robert Hastings was
interviewed for Share International by Jason Francis.
Share International: What interested you in the UFO phenomenon?
Robert Hastings: My father was career Air Force. In 1967 he was
stationed at Malmstrom Air Force Base, a nuclear missile base in
Montana. I was 16 at the time, and a junior in high school. I also had a
job three nights a week as a custodian in the air traffic control tower
at the base. One night in March 1967 I was present at the Radar Approach
Control tower when five unidentified flying objects were being tracked
on radar by the FAA [Federal Aviation Administration] controllers. When
I mentioned this to my father he made some inquiries at work. He worked
in the `SAGE Building', which housed the world's most
advanced radar system of that era. After making some inquiries he
confirmed, a few days later, that bona fide UFOs were indeed being
tracked, not only in the vicinity of the base but specifically in the
vicinity of nuclear missile sites. That was the beginning of my
interest. In 1973 I learned that other researchers, including the late
Dr J.Allen Hynek*, were aware of other UFO incidents related to nuclear
weapons and I subsequently began my formal research into this subject.

SI: How long has the UFO phenomenon shown an interest in nuclear weapons
and military bases?

RH: I have documents from the FBI [Federal Bureau of Investigation]
confirming that UFO activity was centered around Los Alamos, New Mexico
– the birthplace of nuclear weapons – as early as December 1948.
The objects were described as disc-shaped, and capable of high velocity
as well as hovering. One document indicates that the government –
the US Air Force, the FBI, and other unspecified intelligence agencies
– consider this matter to be top secret. However, I am also aware,
from interviews I have conducted with former or retired military
personnel, that sightings at other nuclear sites had occurred as early
as 1945 prior to the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in Japan at the
end of World War II. I've talked to a retired Navy pilot who
witnessed an object hovering over the Hanford Site in the state of
Washington, where the plutonium for the Nagasaki bomb was produced.
According to his report, the object had hovered over the site repeatedly
and outran any attempt by military interceptors to pursue it. These
kinds of incidents have apparently gone on since the inception of the
Nuclear Age.

SI: How did you get these documents from the FBI?

RH: That particular document was released via the Freedom of Information
Act (FOIA) to Dr Bruce Maccabee, a retired physicist for the US Navy,
who is also a UFO researcher in his own right. He got about 1,500 pages
from the FBI in 1978, including the document I mentioned.

The FOIA, however, has been of limited use to me because most of the
incidents I've researched involving UFO activity at nuclear weapons
sites are considered national security matters. They are classified at
such a high level that they are effectively exempt from disclosure
through the FOIA. In the early 1980s when I attempted to get additional
documents on this subject, I had the door slammed in my face repeatedly.
I eventually learned that it was much more effective to access this
vital information by approaching retired military people and encouraging
them to go on the record. At this point, I have interviewed over 120
former or retired military personnel who were involved in UFO incidents
at nuclear missile sites, nuclear bomb storage depots, nuclear test
areas and the like.

SI: Could you give an example of a UFO encounter at a military base?

RH: In 1967, at Malmstrom Air Force Base, at the time my father was
stationed there, there were two incidents, one on 16 March and the other
on 24 March, where two separate groups of 10 nuclear missiles
experienced `shutdown' incidents. The 24 March incident was
reported by a former Air Force captain, Robert Salas, who was one of the
missile launch officers in the launch-control capsule underground when
this occurred. Captain Salas got a call from one of the security guards
at ground level saying that a saucer-shaped object had appeared
instantly out of nowhere and was hovering over the security fence gate
at the Launch Control Facility. Before Salas had a chance to respond,
all 10 of the missiles began malfunctioning. It was late

[FairfieldLife] UFOs: Their Spiritual Missionpart II

[nablusoss1008]

UFOs: Their Spiritual Mission
Conference Questions and Answers with Benjamin Creme — Part 2
`UFOs – Their Spiritual Mission' was the theme of Benjamin
Creme's keynote talk at the US and European Transmission Meditation
Conferences in 2009. His talk was published in Share International,
January/February 2010
  and Part 1
of the Question and Answer sessions was published in Share International
March 2010  .
The concluding Questions and Answers, Part 2, follow here.



Making known the `stars'

Q: In our approach to the public and the media, should we speak more
about the `star' and the Space Brothers, in relation to the
emergence of Maitreya?

A: As a member of this group, there is no difference in talking about
the `star' or about the reappearance of the Christ and the
Masters of Wisdom. They are part of the same process. It is not one or
the other; it is all part of a whole. It is the latest phase in a
process that has gone on for years, by which Maitreya and the group of
Masters Who are coming with Him re-enter openly the modern world. They
have already been in position in the world for years. This is a new
phase and the `star' is there as a herald for Maitreya's
process of working openly, reaching humanity through radio and
television.

The `star', of course, is not a star. It is a spaceship, a UFO,
an enormous spacecraft. The `usual', `everyday'
scout-craft UFOs are only about 25 to 30 feet in diameter, which is big
but not all that big. The `star' is gigantic, the size of five
football fields put together. If the reality of the `star' can
be presented to the public it does two things: it is a herald for
Maitreya's advent in the physical, everyday world, and is also proof
of the reality of the Space Brothers. These `stars' must have
been made somewhere. I cannot prove to anyone that they were made on
Mars and Venus, but that is my information, and I present it to anyone
who wants to know. These two important things come together in this
story: Maitreya's approach to the public beginning with His coming
on television in the very near future (although unannounced as Maitreya;
He will use another name at first), and also the knowledge of UFOs as
reality. You cannot talk about one without talking about the other.

[Note: Announced by Benjamin Creme at his public London lecture on 14
January 2010, Maitreya's first television interview in the US has
taken place. As we go to press Maitreya has given nine interviews.]

Q: There is a potential problem when contacting the media and
astronomers when the `star' is in the vicinity of a known
celestial object (Venus or Jupiter, for example). This affects their
acceptance of the phenomenon. Will this situation clarify with time?

A: No, I do not think it will. This is the age-old response of experts
or anyone in authority. Whatever comes within the range of their
particular discipline comes also within the range of their inhibitions,
their credibility, antagonisms, predilections, their sense of knowing
all about all in their own discipline.

You must remember that the idea that flying saucers exist has been
debunked by most countries in the world through the world's media.
The media have shown their reluctance to make any clear-cut, unbiased
investigation of this phenomenon for over 60 years. Nothing makes them
change their approach today. More people than ever before, hundreds of
thousands, have had experiences that leave them in no doubt that flying
saucers exist. But for these experiences to be taken seriously and given
solid confirmation by people in authority, to expect astronomers to give
credence to this phenomenon, I will not say is foolish, but it would be
approaching the miraculous. The media are not on your side. It is a
struggle to make it known. But that does not mean you should give in or
get aggressive. You should just plough on presenting information to the
media. Already unofficial channels like YouTube are filled with stories
of the `star', some under the name Maitreya's
`Star', others under the name of What is this Amazing Object? Is
it a UFO? That is what we want to get across to the media. It does not
have to be mainstream media in the first place, like CNN or something of
that nature. But there was a report on CNN in Houston, Texas, I believe,
in the very early weeks of the appearance of the `star', when
someone photographed it and sent the video in. They showed the video on
television and I saw it myself on YouTube. It was quite clearly the
`star'. They did not know what it was, but the woman presenter
was thrilled with it. She was very congratulatory to the man who took
the video because he had obtained a video of this extraordinary object.
So it is possible to get the media to cover this story, although maybe
not at a high level.

http://shareintl.org/magazine/old_issues/2010/2010-04.htm#ufospiritualmi\
ssion

[FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive'

[Buck]

Naah, on one level Maharishi University is doing okay & will not close any time 
soon.

Yes, since Maharishi died there has been a process of discovery about what they 
actually have.  Turns out most all the real assets were mortgaged before 
Maharishi died and the money moved.  Consequently the movement estate is left 
with mostly debt as mortgages in the West.  

For instance, the proceeds from the sale of the Ideal Girls School and the farm 
properties north of town, all of which had been gifted to the movement, went 
directly to pay off mortgages and get the payments off of the movement expense 
sheet.  I know someone who was at the closing on these properties.  In the case 
of theses properties the Wynnes of Global Country had got the properties over 
in to the hands of the Gobal Country, mortgaged it and used the money for the 
pundit program when it needed cash to settle visas and logistics with the 
pundit program.

The MUM campus has been mortgaged away for quite a while.  
The programs on it are endeared by those who use them and support them.
'Consciousness-based Education' has its followers who see its significance.
As with the Domes too being mortgaged for some while and folks who have
enduring interest in the program there.  Either way the programming is what is 
important 
and the buildings just facilitate.

Switching gears, part of what the movement is learning post-death of Maharishi 
is governance.
There is still a lot of held back residual goodwill in the larger meditating 
community about aspects of the old teaching.  There is an evident problem with 
the numbers. With that proly a lot more good support could come of opening more 
transparency 
with the account books than holding them close now.  Everyone suspects the 
numbers and where they
have gone, there could be much more help forthcoming to float the ship if the 
problems
were honestly dealt with in the open.  

In their holding on asking for help, they could from their side start with 
putting
the detailed honest income and expense statements, cash flow, and balance 
sheets on the web
so everyone can look and help. 

There is a reason they can't get the numbers they need and their demonstrated 
integrity has a lot to do with it.  They could work on that from their side 
with honest numbers to their own benefit.

There always is a lot of conversation around town about this as it effects a 
lot of people here in many different ways.  Practical ways in addition to 
woo-woo. Hence folks are interested in different ways.

Jai Adi Shankara,
-Buck in FF


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Jason  wrote:
>
>  
> For a mov't that spoke about taking over the entire world and ruling 
> it with perfection, 'Ram Raj',  could be a wake-up call to face ground 
> realities.
> 
>     A much more flattened mov't structure, going back to the basics ie, 
> teaching TM and chucking away unnecessary baggage.  In Capitalism only the 
> fit Survive.  From "effortless prosperity" to "survival struggle" can they do 
> it.??
> 
> 
> --- On Sat, 5/1/10, Rick Archer  wrote:
> Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: MUM only to 'Survive'
> Date: Saturday, May 1, 2010, 8:31 AM
> 
>  
> There seems to be a lot of speculation here. Doug (Buck) mentioned something 
> about Bevin using the word "survive" and all of a sudden we're spinning out 
> scenarios about the complete dismantlement of MUM, top people walking away 
> with lots of cash, etc. Does anyone know if MUM is actually in more serious 
> financial trouble than it has usually been over the years?
>  
> ---  guyfawkes91  wrote:
> >
> > Slowly, very slowly, the awful truth is beginning to make it through to the 
> > top guys in the TMO. But it's already too late to save MUM, it has no 
> > credibility in the academic world and so it can't get new staff. So no 
> > amount of economizing will allow it to survive. This news is just the first 
> > step towards the inevitable closure of MUM, with all that implies for the 
> > rest of the movement.
> > 
> > When times are tough and people have to make tough choices they reveal 
> > their real priorities. You can be pretty sure that Girish's palace and 
> > Tony's Paris pad won't be sacrificed to keep MUM alive. 
> 
> Does anyone really know the style in which Girish lives? 
> 
> If MUM goes, I think that means the TMO goes. When this falls apart, it will 
> be most interesting to see how the top people live out their lives - will 
> they have oodles of money squirreled away, or be getting by on very little.? 
> Living in FF or some TM enclave in Vlodrop, or getting far away from it all? 
> For TM teachers, the TMO was incredibly stingy - and I imagine the same goes 
> for their treatment of MUM faculty, too. 
> 
> My guess is that if Bevan is beginning to ring the alarm bells publicly, then 
> he and the other top people are way way ahead of what they are talking about. 
> I bet they have already begun the plan to dismantle things. I have no idea 
> who

[FairfieldLife] Men awaken to Maitreya

[nablusoss1008]

Benjamin Creme discusses the emergence of Maitreya, The World Teacher
Please click to view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CoHGRzKoHv8


The Master's article for
Share International magazine,
May 2010 Men awaken to Maitreya
by the Master —, through Benjamin Creme, 11 April 2010

>From now, men will take more seriously the idea that help is at hand,
that they are not alone, not without aid in their grief and
helplessness. Recent events have brought again to humanity the hope
that, at the point of their greatest need, when they had all but
relinquished hope of succour, somehow their prayers would be answered
and their pain assuaged. So potent has been the response to the essence
of Maitreya's words, however quietly or obliquely uttered, that many
already feel heartened and reassured that all will be well, that the
future for men will be just and kind, even better than they dared to
hope. Many are already beginning to doubt that this man is really
`one of us', but is someone sent from above to answer their call
for help, and to ease their burden. Many, doubtless, find His words
unhelpful and obstructive to their desires, but many more, by far, sense
the simple truth of His ideas, and await eagerly their fruition. Thus,
quietly and steadily does Maitreya aid the plight of men. Some have
already recognized Him and pray to Him. Others are glad to hear aloud
the answers to their many problems and await the opportunity to play a
part in their solution.

Echo

Thus do the simple words of Maitreya echo through the world. Thus do
they awaken in men the hope of renewal. Where enough men are so awakened
and ready for change Maitreya will increase the tempo and energy of His
delivery and galvanize millions to call for action on their own behalf.
Men must understand that action must come from themselves, else nothing
new can happen. Where men realize this they will act, spontaneously and
with hearts ablaze with hope. So will it be, and so will men fulfil
their destiny and create the better framework for the new age which
opens before them.

Beginning

Maitreya is at the beginning only of His task to guide men into right
relationship; but already He finds that His words encourage, and soon
will galvanize, millions to act and claim their destiny, not through
revolution but through revelation of their own divinity.

(Read more articles by the Master)

[FairfieldLife] American Capitalists spread their poison even on their deathbed

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"A new earthquake" is what peasant farmer leader Chavannes Jean-Baptiste
of the Peasant Movement of Papay (MPP) called the news that Monsanto
will be donating 60,000 seed sacks (475 tons) of hybrid corn seeds and
vegetable seeds, some of them treated with highly toxic pesticides. The
MPP has committed to burning Monsanto's seeds, and has called for a
march to protest the corporation's presence in Haiti on June 4, for
World Environment Day.

In an open letter sent of May 14, Chavannes Jean-Baptiste, the Executive
Director of MPP and the spokesperson for the National Peasant Movement
of the Congress of Papay (MPNKP), called the entry of Monsanto seeds
into Haiti "a very strong attack on small agriculture, on farmers, on
biodiversity, on Creole seeds..., and on what is left our environment in
Haiti."[1] Haitian social movements have been vocal in their opposition
to agribusiness imports of seeds and food, which undermines local
production with local seed stocks. They have expressed special concern
about the import of genetically modified organisms (GMOs).

For now, without a law regulating the use of GMOs in Haiti, the Ministry
of Agriculture rejected Monsanto's offer of Roundup Ready GMO seeds. In
an email exchange, a Monsanto representative assured the Ministry of
Agriculture that the seeds being donated are not GMO.

Elizabeth Vancil, Monsanto's Director of Development Initiatives, called
the news that the Haitian Ministry of Agriculture approved the donation
"a fabulous Easter gift" in an April email.[2] Monsanto is known for
aggressively pushing seeds, especially GMO seeds, in both the global
North and South, including through highly restrictive technology
agreements with farmers who are not always made fully aware of what they
are signing. According to interviews by this writer with representatives
of Mexican small farmer organizations, they then find themselves forced
to buy Monsanto seeds each year, under conditions they find onerous and
at costs they sometimes cannot afford.

The hybrid corn seeds Monsanto has donated to Haiti are treated with the
fungicide Maxim XO, and the calypso tomato seeds are treated with
thiram.[3] Thiram belongs to a highly toxic class of chemicals called
ethylene bisdithiocarbamates (EBDCs). Results of tests of EBDCs on mice
and rats caused concern to the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency
(EPA), which then ordered a special review. The EPA determined that
EBDC-treated plants are so dangerous to agricultural workers that they
must wear special protective clothing when handling them. Pesticides
containing thiram must contain a special warning label, the EPA ruled.
The EPA also barred marketing of the chemicals for many home garden
products, because it assumes that most gardeners do not have adequately
protective clothing.[4] Monsanto's passing mention of thiram to Ministry
of Agriculture officials in an email contained no explanation of the
dangers, nor any offer of special clothing or training for those who
will be farming 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace

[Jason]

 
   History has shown that whenever a technological superior civilisation 
come into contact with an tech inferior civilisation, it has always been 
disastrous for the technological inferior culture.  The crux of the problem had 
always been resources.

  Something to ponder about.

"The enemy aggressor is always pursuing a course of larceny, murder, rapine, 
and barbarism. We are always moving forward with high mission, a destiny 
imposed by the deity to regenerate our victims while incidentally capturing 
their markets, to civilize savage and senile and paranoidal peoples while 
blundering accidentally into their oil wells or metal mines."
—John T. Flynn, As We Go Marching(1944)

--- On Wed, 4/28/10, do.rflex  wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Stephen Hawking: Aliens may not come in peace
Date: Wednesday, April 28, 2010, 10:03 AM

 
If intelligent alien life forms do exist out in the vastness of the space, they 
might not be the friendly cosmic neighbors the people of Earth are looking for, 
famed British scientist Stephen Hawking says in a new television series 
chronicling his work to explore the secrets of the universe.

An advanced spacefaring extraterrestrial civilization could end up wandering 
the universe in enormous spaceships on the prowl for vital materials after 
consuming the natural resources of their own world, Hawking explains in an 
episode of the show "Into the Universe with Stephen Hawking," which premiered 
Sunday on the Discovery Channel.

"Such advanced aliens would perhaps become nomads, looking to conquer and 
colonize whatever planets they could reach," Hawking said. "If so, it makes 
sense for them to exploit each new planet for material to build more spaceships 
so they could move on. Who knows what the limits would be?" 

Continue reading: 
http://www.csmonito r.com/Science/ 2010/0427/ Stephen-Hawking- Aliens-may- 
not-come- in-peace


 


  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Worry Free?

[shukra69]

have used it,its very good, can be a bit heating for pittas long term, I used 
to like taking before TM esp if I drank coffee

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister  wrote:
>
> 
> Anybody tried Worry Free?
> Any comments?
> 
> http://www.mapi.com/maharishi_ayurveda/products/ayurveda_herbal_remedies/worryfreetabs.html
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years

[authfriend]

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> Ummm, I think the Dems took the congress in 2006, not 
> Republicans.

And it looks like he may not have read past the first
couple of sentences in the article he links to, because
it isn't all that positive. In many cases the new
entrepreneurs started their own businesses out of 
desperation because they couldn't find jobs, using money
borrowed from friends and family, and they may have a
tough time getting bank loans to keep them going and
allow them to do any hiring.

Already established small businesses are going to have
trouble too given the reluctance of the banks to lend.

And like you, I'd be interested to know the survey's
definition of "entrepreneur." Does it include one-person
businesses whose offices are the kitchen table? How much
money do they bring in? How many jobs can they be
expected to create?

Goodness knows Obama has had an almost impossible task
trying to remedy the disaster he was handed by the Bush
administration, and generally he's made the right moves,
although in many cases they weren't nearly big enough.
Some aspects of the economy are improving, but things
are still in very iffy shape. It's not at all clear
the economy has the strength to resist being dragged
down by the mess in Europe.

Unbridled optimism is not the appropriate attitude here.






 The typical recession lasts about 18 months. I guess with all these new 
entrepreneurial jobs Barack Hussein Obama has *created*or *saved* government 
revenue must be sky high and the deficit and national debt must be shrinking at 
an alarming rate! Does the Kauffman Index consider cleaning car windows at an 
intersection an entrepreneurial job?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: do.rflex 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 5:04:29 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
> Years
> 
>   
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
> >
> > I guess that's why we have such low unemployment these days.:-)
> > 
> 
> Let's see. 
> 
> The recession started in December of 2007 under Bush and his GOP Congress. 
> 
> The financial meltdown occurred in September 2008 under Bush and his GOP 
> Congress. 
> 
> Obama took office in January of 2009. 
> 
> Yeah. It's now going to take a colossal effort to clean up the catastrophic 
> financial disaster and the massive job losses that the Bush administration 
> and the GOP controlled Congress left behind and Obama inherited. 
> 
> However there's some very good news. Since Obama took office the massive job 
> loss has dramatically turned in the other direction as the following graph 
> clearly indicates: 
> 
> 
> 
> america src="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/america.jpg"; 
> width=500 height=354>
> Graph link: http://thinkprogres s.org/wp- content/uploads/ 2010/04/america. 
> jpg
> 
> 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >  _ _ __
> > From: do.rflex do.rflex@
> > To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> > Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:24:21 PM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
> > Years
> > 
> >   
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Record growth among entrepreneurs in U.S.
> > By Ian Swanson - 05/20/10 06:00 AM ET 
> >        More entrepreneurs launched new businesses in 2009 
> > than at any other time in the past 14 years, according to a study released 
> > Thursday. 
> > The figures from the Kauffman Index of Entrepreneurial Activity report that 
> > entrepreneurs have remained a strength of the U.S. economy amid one of the 
> > worst recessions on record.
> >
>

[FairfieldLife] Dome Meditation Numbers

[Buck]

http://invincibleamerica.org/tallies.html

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years

[Mike Dixon]

Ummm, I think the Dems took the congress in 2006, not Republicans. The typical 
recession lasts about 18 months. I guess with all these new entrepreneurial 
jobs Barack Hussein Obama has *created*or *saved* government revenue must be 
sky high and the deficit and national debt must be shrinking at an alarming 
rate! Does the Kauffman Index consider cleaning car windows at an intersection 
an entrepreneurial job?




From: do.rflex 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 5:04:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 
Years

  

--- In FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com, Mike Dixon  wrote:
>
> I guess that's why we have such low unemployment these days.:-)
> 

Let's see. 

The recession started in December of 2007 under Bush and his GOP Congress. 

The financial meltdown occurred in September 2008 under Bush and his GOP 
Congress. 

Obama took office in January of 2009. 

Yeah. It's now going to take a colossal effort to clean up the catastrophic 
financial disaster and the massive job losses that the Bush administration and 
the GOP controlled Congress left behind and Obama inherited. 

However there's some very good news. Since Obama took office the massive job 
loss has dramatically turned in the other direction as the following graph 
clearly indicates: 



america src="http://thinkprogress.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/04/america.jpg"; 
width=500 height=354>
Graph link: http://thinkprogres s.org/wp- content/uploads/ 2010/04/america. jpg


> 
> 
> 
>  _ _ __
> From: do.rflex do.rf...@...
> To: FairfieldLife@ yahoogroups. com
> Sent: Thu, May 20, 2010 1:24:21 PM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] 2009 Saw Most Growth in Small Businesses in 14 Years
> 
>   
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Record growth among entrepreneurs in U.S.
> By Ian Swanson - 05/20/10 06:00 AM ET 
>        More entrepreneurs launched new businesses in 2009 than at any 
> other time in the past 14 years, according to a study released Thursday. 
> The figures from the Kauffman Index of Entrepreneurial Activity report that 
> entrepreneurs have remained a strength of the U.S. economy amid one of the 
> worst recessions on record.
>




  

[FairfieldLife] Questions for Bhairitu

[TurquoiseB]

I have lamentably always been a fairly lame nerd with 
regard to mobile phones. All that mattered to me was
the ability to receive and make phone calls. I don't
even "text" people. Besides, with my aging eyes, some
of the text on the screens of fancier phones was just
too small for me to read.

But now, with OS's like the iPhone's and Android, 
increasing the font size is a matter of a thumb-swipe,
so I can consider these smarter phones. And because 
I've made more money than usual this last quarter, my 
company has to find things to spend that money on, so 
that I don't have to give it all to the Spanish govern-
ment in corporate taxes. So I'm thinkin' of having my 
company buy me a cool Android phone.

I know that you have one, and since you are usually
as knowledgeable about fun nerd toys as you are opinion-
ated about them, I thought I'd ask your opinion. :-)

So what's a cool Android phone? I tend to like Samsung
equipment across the board, but really haven't invest-
igated any of these phones yet, so any recommendations
you might have would be of interest to me, and helpful.

More important, since you obviously use and write apps
for Android phones, what are some of the cool ones?

I know *diddleysquat* about phone apps. Can't say I 
have ever used one or lusted after one, with the excep-
tion of Jamie Oliver's "20 Minute Recipes" app for the
iPhone. Shake the phone, and it gives you a healthy
recipe you can make in 20 minutes, at random from a 
database of such recipes. I hear it's the biggest-
selling iPhone app in the UK, and one of the biggest-
selling worldwide. Hearing about it almost made me
buy an iPhone.

But that is literally *all* I know about the new era
of mobile telephony, so I'm all ears to hear what you
can tell me about these toys. If I were to score one
of these Android phones, what would I want to have
running on it? For example, can they access a WiFi 
connection and run Skype, like the iPod can? Thanks 
in advance,

Turq, the Phone-Impaired

[FairfieldLife] Worry Free?

[cardemaister]

Anybody tried Worry Free?
Any comments?

http://www.mapi.com/maharishi_ayurveda/products/ayurveda_herbal_remedies/worryfreetabs.html

[FairfieldLife] Re: Off Into the Sunset

[Jason]

  hey Tartar, pop in here now and then.  We need sane guys like you.

--- On Thu, 5/20/10, tartbrain  wrote:
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Off Into the Sunset
Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 9:00 PM

 
I have a busy time coming up and I need to streamline my time a bit. 

I have enjoyed many conversations on FFL -- have learned some good things -- 
and clarified my thinking on interesting topics. 

I wish all of you the best in your endeavors and in realizing your dreams. 

(And for the sake of all, I hope the high drama soon settles down in the world 
of the awakened.)