[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:
 Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for 
 rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and 
 chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27 
 states of being, consciousness, and bliss), and thus in that sense 
 sequential, it is after all just another model and you know I don't really 
 hold with sequential milestones being de rigeur anyhow :-)

(If we used that model, though, the Father would really not be the Rishi, as He 
is Transcendence in the crown, the Absolute (T.C.); the Son would represent the 
Witness (C.C), the Rishi in the brow or third-eye -- perhaps the quote if 
thine eye be single, thy body shall be full of light is applicable here -- and 
the Holy Spirit would represent -- as you have it -- the Devata value: Akasha, 
the divine Breath (Spiritus; Atman) in the throat chakra, the bliss of G.C. 
Then Chhandas would probably end up being the finest-feeling level of U.C. and 
Air, Nous or Buddhi, the Intuitive intellect, the Higher Soul in the heart 
chakra.)

(But to really manifest the states of consciousness, each of these would be 
paired with its converse, across the mid-line of the Solar Plexus or Sacred 
Heart: thus T.C. would engage both the Father-Purusha in the crown and the 
Mother-Prakriti in the foot; C.C. (Birth) would involve both the Son in the 
brow (Witness) and the Daughter in the base (organs of action); G.C. 
(Baptism) would engage both the Holy Spirit in the throat (bliss) and the 
Holy (Subtle) Body in the sex (senses; the waters), and U.C. 
(Transfiguration) would involve both the Higher Soul in the heart (intuition) 
and the Lower Soul in the navel (concrete mind) -- the downward male and upward 
female forces finally meeting and marrying across the Crucifixion-midpoint of 
the I AM, releasing the heretofore unconscious identification with the I-point 
into Brahman...)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for 
 rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and 
 chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27 
 states of being, consciousness, and bliss), and thus in that sense 
 sequential, it is after all just another model and you know I don't really 
 hold with sequential milestones being de rigeur anyhow :-)

(If we used that model, though, the Father would really not be the Rishi, as He 
is Transcendence in the crown, the Absolute (T.C.); the Son would represent the 
Witness (C.C), the Rishi in the brow or third-eye -- perhaps the quote if 
thine eye be single, thy body shall be full of light is applicable here -- and 
the Holy Spirit would represent -- as you have it -- the Devata value: Akasha, 
the
vibrating space, the divine Breath (Spiritus; Atman) in the throat chakra, the 
bliss of G.C. Then Chhandas would probably end up being the finest-feeling 
level of U.C. and Air, Nous or Buddhi, the Intuitive intellect, the Higher Soul 
in the heart chakra.)

(But to really manifest the states of consciousness, each of these would be 
paired with its converse, across the mid-line of the Solar Plexus or Sacred 
Heart: thus T.C. would engage both the Father-Purusha in the crown (Heaven) 
and the Mother-Prakriti in the foot (Hell); C.C. (Birth) would involve both 
the Son in the
brow (Witness) and the Daughter in the earthy base (organs of action); G.C. 
(Baptism) would engage both the Holy Spirit in the throat (bliss of space) 
and the Holy (Subtle) Body in the sex (senses; the waters), and U.C. 
(Transfiguration) would involve
both the Higher Soul in the heart (airy intuition) and the Lower Soul in the 
navel (fiery concrete mind) -- the downward male and upward female forces 
finally meeting across the Crucifixion-midpoint at the Solar Plexus of the I 
AM, releasing the heretofore unconscious identification with the I-point into 
the paradoxical alchemical marriage of Brahman...)

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Yep, just conjecturing here too. Though one could perhaps make a case for 
 rishi as being predominant in the enlivenment of C.C., devata in G.C. and 
 chhandas in U.C. (as I have done with my 9-chakra-model system of the 27 
 states of being, consciousness, and bliss), and thus in that sense 
 sequential, it is after all just another model and you know I don't really 
 hold with sequential milestones being de rigeur anyhow :-)

(If we used that model, though, the Father would really not be the Rishi, as He 
is Transcendence in the crown, the Absolute (T.C.); the Son would represent the 
Witness (C.C), the Rishi in the brow or third-eye -- perhaps the quote if 
thine eye be single, thy body shall be full of light is applicable here -- and 
the Holy Spirit would represent -- as you have it -- the Devata value: Akasha, 
vibrating space, divine Breath (Spiritus; Atman) in the throat chakra, the
bliss of G.C. Then Chhandas would probably end up being the finest-feeling 
level of U.C. and Air, Nous or Buddhi, the Intuitive intellect, the Higher Soul 
in the heart chakra.)

(But to really manifest the states of consciousness, each of these would be 
paired with its converse, across the mid-line of the Solar Plexus or Sacred 
Heart: thus T.C. would engage both the Father-Purusha in the crown (Heaven) 
and the Mother-Prakriti in the foot (Hell); C.C. (Birth) would involve both 
the Son in the
brow (Witness) and the Daughter in the earthy base (organs of action); G.C. 
(Baptism) would engage both the Holy Spirit in the throat (bliss of space) 
and the Holy (Subtle) Body in the sex (senses; the waters), and U.C. 
(Transfiguration) would involve
both the Higher Soul in the heart (airy intuition) and the Lower Soul in the 
navel (fiery concrete mind) -- the downward male and upward female forces 
finally meeting across the Crucifixion-midpoint at the Solar Plexus of the I 
AM, releasing the heretofore unconscious identification with the separate 
I-point into the paradoxical alchemical marriage of Brahman...)





[FairfieldLife] Children of the Night and TM

2011-07-08 Thread sparaig
http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidLynchFoundation#p/search/0/oBrzv-iMcCE

In times, meditating with them, and someone would burst into tears and I said 
'what was it?' and they said 'well, my Dad molested me' and I'd say 'OK' and we 
were done with it. I'd never seen that before. Because in therapy you'd talk 
about, work it out and they'd come back and they'd talk to me about what 
happened in therapy.. um, the psychiatrist-people give them meditation -which 
they need sometimes but not as a way of coping for the rest of their lives- 
that suppresses the memory, but this is like the memory comes up… it's out… 
 it's on the table… it's gone.

Transcendental Meditation has given our children a tool they didn't have 
before. Because of the abuses that they've incurred, they always react: they're 
never in control. It's always a reaction to whatever it is that is coming to 
them -even if it is goodness they may push it away and that -pause-  that 
they're able to stop, listen, think and then *act* gives them the opportunity 
to take control over their lives and that's something that I was not able to 
give them -that was something brought to them by Transcendental Meditation. 
-Dr. Lois Lee founder and president, Children of the Night.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread PaliGap


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 A Milky Way's distance from worthy, but thanks for the tip of the hat man.


And so it was that by the early years of the 21st century the 
shape-shifting green lizards from the Andromeda galaxy had 
become fully embedded on planet Earth. Apart from the retired 
soccer player David Icke and his followers, very few suspected 
there might be aliens in their midst. By now it had become 
next to impossible to 'out' an alien, such was the perfection 
of their disguise. But still one or two were caught out here 
and there. One shape-shifter had been embedded in a cult that 
practised group levitation. On one occasion she became so 
excited when she thought the technique was acatually working, 
that she de-cloaked in the flying dome. Much frantic hopping 
ensued. More typically, a lizard might be exposed through a 
slip of the tongue - such as the occasion in 2011 when one of 
the Lizards' forward battalion leaders was famously caught out 
referring to the Milky Way galaxy being 'distant' in a casual 
conversation on a low-life Internet chat forum. [Annals of 
the Last days of Earth p. 23,456]



 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
   danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
But Curtis,

What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years 
ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. 
That´s not fire, only Smoke.
   
   So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  
   Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first 
   person accounts as gossip?
   
   Of course if you read the book and found some specific 
   places where you question her credibility I would enjoy 
   hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow 
   enough to make this judgement about her book without 
   having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based 
   on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
  
  Sometimes I think that in some alternative universe 
  Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain got together, had a some-
  what improbable (but not impossible) love affair, 
  and even more improbably (but not impossibly), 
  fathered a love child together. Yet more improbably
  (but not impossibly), the birth of that love child 
  was delayed for several decades, while the soul took 
  advantage of the delay to kick back and mature and 
  think up more good one-liners. The result was Curtis 
  Delta Blues. 
  
  :-)
 





[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-07-08 Thread FFL PostCount
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Children of the Night and TM

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, sparaig LEnglish5@... wrote:

 http://www.youtube.com/user/DavidLynchFoundation#p/search/0/oBrzv-iMcCE
 
 In times, meditating with them, and someone would burst into tears and I 
 said 'what was it?' and they said 'well, my Dad molested me' and I'd say 'OK' 
 and we were done with it. I'd never seen that before. Because in therapy 
 you'd talk about, work it out and they'd come back and they'd talk to me 
 about what happened in therapy.. um, the psychiatrist-people give them 
 meditation -which they need sometimes but not as a way of coping for the rest 
 of their lives- that suppresses the memory, but this is like the memory comes 
 up… it's out…  it's on the table… it's gone.
 
 Transcendental Meditation has given our children a tool they didn't have 
 before. Because of the abuses that they've incurred, they always react: 
 they're never in control. It's always a reaction to whatever it is that is 
 coming to them -even if it is goodness they may push it away and that -pause- 
  that they're able to stop, listen, think and then *act* gives them the 
 opportunity to take control over their lives and that's something that I was 
 not able to give them -that was something brought to them by Transcendental 
 Meditation. 
 -Dr. Lois Lee founder and president, Children of the Night.


http://dlf.tv/2011/children-of-the-night/



[FairfieldLife] Re: Post Count

2011-07-08 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, FFL PostCount ffl.postcount@... wrote:

 Fairfield Life Post Counter
 ===
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 41 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com

I manually ran the post count script this morning because there were straggler 
posts that came in overnight. Judy and Barry both bumped up by one post 
compared to last night's count.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, PaliGap compost1uk@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  A Milky Way's distance from worthy, but thanks for the 
  tip of the hat man.
 
 And so it was that by the early years of the 21st century the 
 shape-shifting green lizards from the Andromeda galaxy had 
 become fully embedded on planet Earth. Apart from the retired 
 soccer player David Icke and his followers, very few suspected 
 there might be aliens in their midst. By now it had become 
 next to impossible to 'out' an alien, such was the perfection 
 of their disguise. But still one or two were caught out here 
 and there. One shape-shifter had been embedded in a cult that 
 practised group levitation. On one occasion she became so 
 excited when she thought the technique was acatually working, 
 that she de-cloaked in the flying dome. Much frantic hopping 
 ensued. 

The outed lizard quickly covered up the momentary
lapse of control by telling everyone that she'd had
a #1 experience of LC, the state of consciousness
beyond UC and BC. When people asked what LC was, she
told them that Maharishi had spoken of it in a talk
given shortly before he died, and that he even said
in the talk that Lizard Consciousness was so advanced
that only the highest in the room would remember being 
told about it. At that point several people piled on
and said that they remembered the Lizard Consciousness
talk, too, and that they had had similar #1 experiences,
but hadn't mentioned them yet because they were trying
to be humble and not offend the lesser-evolved. The
incident was forgotten within hours, as everyone went
back to waiting for the flying technique to actually
work and making up #1 experiences. 


  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb no_reply@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
danfriedman2002@ wrote:

 But Curtis,
 
 What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years 
 ago, which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. 
 That´s not fire, only Smoke.

So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  
Then how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first 
person accounts as gossip?

Of course if you read the book and found some specific 
places where you question her credibility I would enjoy 
hearing them. I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow 
enough to make this judgement about her book without 
having read it. You know kind of prejudging it based 
on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
   
   Sometimes I think that in some alternative universe 
   Oscar Wilde and Mark Twain got together, had a some-
   what improbable (but not impossible) love affair, 
   and even more improbably (but not impossibly), 
   fathered a love child together. Yet more improbably
   (but not impossibly), the birth of that love child 
   was delayed for several decades, while the soul took 
   advantage of the delay to kick back and mature and 
   think up more good one-liners. The result was Curtis 
   Delta Blues. 
   
   :-)
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: “Meditation promoted for soldiers suffering from PTSD” – CNN

2011-07-08 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
 
   
   
   
  http://www.tm.org/blog/news/cnn/
   
   
   
  
   
  “I am a great supporter of Transcendental Meditation. 
  I have been using it for almost 40 years. I think that it is a great tool 
  for anyone to utilize as tool for stress…. But it’s especially 
  important considering the stress that our men and women of our armed forces 
  go through. I think that it is a great system to use in life in 
  generalâ€otherwise why would I have been doing it all these years!”
 
 
 The event is here:
 http://tinyurl.com/6l4hhch


LoL! It took quite a while before the audience realized she
was playing SSB?! And then she raped it almost like Hendrix
in Woodstock!? :o



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
  wrote:
  
   But Curtis,
   
   What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later 
   appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke.
 
 Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several other women 
 have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what you think.
  
  So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how do you 
  learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip?
  
  Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you 
  question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am assuming that 
  you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book 
  without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip you 
  heard about what was in the book.
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.

And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed Judith's 
account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the book came 
out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now.

What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a place 
where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as well as 
the currently whatever.  Not too shabby IMO.  

Although we have come down in different places concerning spirituality, 
I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead him to his 
own different conclusions.  

And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ wrote:

 On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
 
  Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then we'd 
  be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
 
 Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
 And, like most other people without badges,
 has no way of getting in.  And do you really
 think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
 let someone take pictures?  You ask for
 evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
 can supply.  Therefore, for you the situation 
 doesn't exist.  If that works for you, great.
 
 Sal

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread seventhray1


Care to share some of the recent books you have read?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002
danfriedman2002@... wrote:

 I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002
danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
But Curtis,
   
What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago,
which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only
Smoke.
 
  Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims. Several
other women have as well. Read the book and then let us know what you
think.
  
   So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how
do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as
gossip?
  
   Of course if you read the book and found some specific places
where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am
assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement
about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it
based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable.

 And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed
Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the
book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now.

 What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created
a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as
well as the currently whatever. Not too shabby IMO.

 Although we have come down in different places concerning
spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead
him to his own different conclusions.

 And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.






 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
salsunshine@ wrote:
 
  On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
 
   Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But
then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
 
  Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
  And, like most other people without badges,
  has no way of getting in. And do you really
  think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
  let someone take pictures? You ask for
  evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
  can supply. Therefore, for you the situation
  doesn't exist. If that works for you, great.
 
  Sal
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread WLeed3


 
  

 From: sat.adjus...@gmail.com
To: wle...@aol.com
Sent: 7/8/2011 7:53:32  A.M. Eastern Daylight Time
Subj: FW: Stocks - Short  Sweet





 
 


 
 
 
 
 
 
 


 
 
Stocks - Short  Sweet

 
 
 

 


 


 
I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying. 

 


 
He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned 
goods and ammunition are your best  bet!

 
























[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@... wrote:

 
 Judy,
 You would be spinning your wheels like the other speculators here. There
 is no relationship, whether actual or imagined between the various
 strata of the Vedic system and any form of Christian theology.

* *  An interesting postulate. Just to play Jaimini's advocate I would suggest 
on the other hand there is always a relationship, actual or imagined, between 
everything and everything else.

 Christian theology developed as various layers of Hellenic polytheism
 were grafted onto Semitic monotheism. This shotgun wedding was recently
 called a bastard union of the inherited conglomerate and
 rightly so. It only became de rigueur in the parlors after being made de
 jure by Constantine. Such is the history of this Godly
 illumination made popular by privileging the
 faithful (City people) over the pagans (country folk).

 
* *  You are probably aware that I am essentially with you in your take on 
Christianity; to me the Gospels appear to have been carefully constructed by 
the Romans specifically for political, anti-Semitic purposes. Nonetheless, 
underneath that there appears to be an archetypal layer of initiatic wisdom 
with interesting parallels to MMY's teaching of consciousness-expansion. 
Perhaps I am imagining it, but then I don't draw a hard-and-fast distinction 
between imagination and actuality; for me imagination plays a crucial role in 
our perception of actual reality.
 
 Perhaps it could be intelligible to talk about Latin horizontal
 hypostases versus Orthodox vertical hypostases as two different ways to
 think while considering Trinitarian speculations. But what's the
 point?

* * What's the point of anything?

   I think the key here is to recognize just how speculative all this is.
 It is even more vacant of meaning than trying to stitch Blavatsky's
 Theosophy onto Vedic/Puranic/Tantric cosmology.
 

* * I suspect anyone who has diligently studied Blavatsky's Theosophy  (I have 
not, particularly) would be hard-put to find much of her thinking in my 
cosmologies. And while I enjoy speculation as much as anyone, all of my 
cosmologies are grounded in my own experience.



[FairfieldLife] Re: “Meditation promoted for soldiers suffering from PTSD” – CNN

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Wow. Many thanks for mentioning (merlin), posting (nablussos), and commenting 
on this (card). I was as profoundly moved by this as I was by Hendrix's SSB...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, merlin vedamerlin@ wrote:
  
    
    
    
   http://www.tm.org/blog/news/cnn/
    
    
    
   
    
   “I am a great supporter of Transcendental Meditation. 
   I have been using it for almost 40 years. I think that it is a great tool 
   for anyone to utilize as tool for stress…. But it’s especially 
   important considering the stress that our men and women of our armed 
   forces go through. I think that it is a great system to use in life in 
   generalâ€otherwise why would I have been doing it all these years!”
  
  
  The event is here:
  http://tinyurl.com/6l4hhch
 
 
 LoL! It took quite a while before the audience realized she
 was playing SSB?! And then she raped it almost like Hendrix
 in Woodstock!? :o





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of danfriedman2002
Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:39 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  

I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.

You mean you don’t actually read them. You just pass judgment on them.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.


Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the book.

Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  I'm 
sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a negative 
impression, but having read it myself I can report that your concerns are 
unfounded.

No personal intimacies, and gossip free!

Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report after you 
have read this important insight into an important man in all our lives, 
Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report that they feel 
much closer to him as a person after reading it.





 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
   danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
But Curtis,

What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which later 
appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke.
  
  Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several other 
  women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what you think.
   
   So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how do you 
   learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip?
   
   Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you 
   question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am assuming that 
   you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her book 
   without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging it based on gossip 
   you heard about what was in the book.
   
   
   
   
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.
 
 And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed Judith's 
 account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the book came 
 out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now.
 
 What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a 
 place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as 
 well as the currently whatever.  Not too shabby IMO.  
 
 Although we have come down in different places concerning 
 spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that 
 lead him to his own different conclusions.  
 
 And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
 wrote:
 
  On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
  
   Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then we'd 
   be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
  
  Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
  And, like most other people without badges,
  has no way of getting in.  And do you really
  think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
  let someone take pictures?  You ask for
  evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
  can supply.  Therefore, for you the situation 
  doesn't exist.  If that works for you, great.
  
  Sal
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, emptybill emptybill@ wrote:
snip
  Christian theology developed as various layers of Hellenic 
  polytheism were grafted onto Semitic monotheism. This
  shotgun wedding was recently called a bastard union of
  the inherited conglomerate and rightly so. It only became
  de rigueur in the parlors after being made de jure by 
  Constantine. Such is the history of this Godly
  illumination made popular by privileging the faithful
  (City people) over the pagans (country folk).
 
 * *  You are probably aware that I am essentially with you
 in your take on Christianity; to me the Gospels appear to
 have been carefully constructed by the Romans specifically
 for political, anti-Semitic purposes. Nonetheless,
 underneath that there appears to be an archetypal layer of 
 initiatic wisdom with interesting parallels to MMY's teaching
 of consciousness-expansion.

Rory, it's a little scary how clearly you've articulated
what I was fumbling around trying to figure out how to say!
I don't think the r/d/c-Trinity parallel has much of anything
to do with what may be underneath the Gospels, however; the
Trinity doctrine was a later development.

But just in general, it's my suspicion that a fair amount of
of dogma (not just of Christianity) originated in initiatic
wisdom, although by the time the less-than-wise had got
done fashioning it into dogma according to their own
exoteric understanding, its esoteric origins had become
almost unrecognizable. (And there may be plenty along those
lines that became so unrecognizable nobody has yet managed
to recognize them.)

That said, I wouldn't insist on a r/d/c-Trinity parallel;
as you go on to note, it could well be purely imaginary.

 Perhaps I am imagining it, but then I don't draw a hard-
 and-fast distinction between imagination and actuality;
 for me imagination plays a crucial role in our perception 
 of actual reality.

I suppose it does, but on the other hand I'm perfectly
willing to draw a distinction in specific cases where it
seems called for. Otherwise it can be like MMY's tendency
to draw analogies between his principles of consciousness
and the principles of science, and then assume genuine
correspondence.

There's no reason not to have fun flexing one's
speculative muscles. It may even be useful as a mental
exercise to attempt to perceive isomorphisms between
apparently starkly different systems of thought. Probably
best not to engrave them in stone, however.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
 
 
 Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
 discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the 
 book.
 
 Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  I'm 
 sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a negative 
 impression, but having read it myself I can report that your concerns are 
 unfounded.
 
 No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
 
 Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report after 
 you have read this important insight into an important man in all our lives, 
 Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report that they feel 
 much closer to him as a person after reading it.
 
* * Absolutely. I would suggest Judith's book is virtually required reading for 
anyone who sincerely wants to integrate the Divine with the Human in their 
appreciation of MMY and the TMO as well as of him- or herself. It is a healing 
book.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Curtis,

Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my arrival 
back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, according to my 
optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.

But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away from 
the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
 
 
 Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
 discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the 
 book.
 
 Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  I'm 
 sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a negative 
 impression, but having read it myself I can report that your concerns are 
 unfounded.
 
 No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
 
 Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report after 
 you have read this important insight into an important man in all our lives, 
 Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report that they feel 
 much closer to him as a person after reading it.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
danfriedman2002@ wrote:

 But Curtis,
 
 What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which 
 later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only Smoke.
   
   Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several other 
   women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what you think.

So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how do 
you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as gossip?

Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where you 
question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am assuming 
that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement about her 
book without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging it based on 
gossip you heard about what was in the book.






 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.
  
  And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed 
  Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then 
  the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo 
  routine now.
  
  What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a 
  place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as 
  well as the currently whatever.  Not too shabby IMO.  
  
  Although we have come down in different places concerning 
  spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that 
  lead him to his own different conclusions.  
  
  And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
  
  
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
  wrote:
  
   On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
   
Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then 
we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
   
   Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
   And, like most other people without badges,
   has no way of getting in.  And do you really
   think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
   let someone take pictures?  You ask for
   evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
   can supply.  Therefore, for you the situation 
   doesn't exist.  If that works for you, great.
   
   Sal
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, authfriend jstein@... wrote:

 Rory, it's a little scary how clearly you've articulated
 what I was fumbling around trying to figure out how to say!
 I don't think the r/d/c-Trinity parallel has much of anything
 to do with what may be underneath the Gospels, however; the
 Trinity doctrine was a later development.

* * Wow, Judy, I am honored by your appreciation and ticked by your 
self-recognition! And just offhand I agree that the Trinity probably does not 
having much of anything to do with the Mystery layers of the Gospels. I think 
there is a far closer equivalency between rish-devata-chhandas (and my own 
cosmologies) and the Great Triad (heaven-man-earth) of Far Eastern thought, 
at least as elucidated by Rene Guenon, than there is to the Trinity. IIRC, he 
too sees no real connection between the Great Triad and the Christian Trinity.
 
 But just in general, it's my suspicion that a fair amount of
 of dogma (not just of Christianity) originated in initiatic
 wisdom, although by the time the less-than-wise had got
 done fashioning it into dogma according to their own
 exoteric understanding, its esoteric origins had become
 almost unrecognizable. (And there may be plenty along those
 lines that became so unrecognizable nobody has yet managed
 to recognize them.)

* * This is exactly my take on it as well.
 
 That said, I wouldn't insist on a r/d/c-Trinity parallel;
 as you go on to note, it could well be purely imaginary.
 
  Perhaps I am imagining it, but then I don't draw a hard-
  and-fast distinction between imagination and actuality;
  for me imagination plays a crucial role in our perception 
  of actual reality.
 
 I suppose it does, but on the other hand I'm perfectly
 willing to draw a distinction in specific cases where it
 seems called for. Otherwise it can be like MMY's tendency
 to draw analogies between his principles of consciousness
 and the principles of science, and then assume genuine
 correspondence.

* * Quite right. You in turn have put your finger precisely on, and clearly 
expressed, an on the other hand point that was niggling at me even as I wrote 
the post!

 There's no reason not to have fun flexing one's
 speculative muscles. It may even be useful as a mental
 exercise to attempt to perceive isomorphisms between
 apparently starkly different systems of thought. Probably
 best not to engrave them in stone, however.

* * Precisely! While I love to speculate, imagine, and create semisolid forms, 
they are magical only as long as they contain and express the unitive waters 
of Life. When unitive Poetry becomes separatist or fundamentalist Dogma, we 
shatter into a trillion tiny shards of pain...

... not that there's anything wrong with that, of course :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
 arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
 according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
 
 But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
 Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away from 
 the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
 
* * Wow, Dan, I had no idea. I am most happy to hear you are staying away from 
the shootouts, as well as to hear you will be reading Judith's book. I too look 
forward to hearing your thoughts on it. Stay well!



[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread whynotnow7
I sometimes see astrally perfect versions of what is here on earth, so the 
perfect templates of the lokas make sense. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, John jr_esq@ wrote:
 
  We need to understand that the words used for the transcendent are more 
  concrete and understandable in context with the Hebrew culture.  Thus, the 
  words Father, Son and Holy Ghost were used by the Christian Church Fathers 
  to describe the phenomenon of the unified field, the transcendent.
  
  MMY's idea of the rishi-devata-chandas relationship is fine for analytical 
  purposes.  But it lacks the personal message to human beings who can only 
  understand concrete words such as father, mother and son to get a glimpse 
  of the mechanics of the unified field.
 
 RG: Agreed...
  
 J: IMO, it could very well be in the end, that heaven or the higher lokas 
 described in the Bible and the vedic literature may be the perfect version of 
 what we see here on earth.  That is, there could be trees, forests, oceans, 
 animals and people (those who are deserving) in heaven.
 
 RG: An interesting take on it, John; you may well be right.
 IMO, all of those lokas are essentially states of consciousness, and all 
 available here and now for those who are open to themSo, yes, there would 
 be trees, forests, oceans, animals, and people -- all of whom are devotees 
 of the divine...





Re: [FairfieldLife] Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, wle...@aol.com wrote:

 Stocks - Short  Sweet

 I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.


 He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
 goods and ammunition are your best  bet!

And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Tomorrow Never Knows

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Interesting take on a Beatles song:
 
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uqkIXZY1lcfeature=fvst

Very nice graphics, though the music was kind of jarring in the long run.



[FairfieldLife] The Tax Cut Fairies

2011-07-08 Thread do.rflex


Trickle Down Tales - Animation by Mark Fiore

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/07/07/991950/-Trickle-Down-Tales?via=blog_1




[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread authfriend


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
snip
 Not to mention her sly habit of posting after he's gone
 to bed.

Well, you *did* say this was fiction, right? I mean, otherwise,
to be fair, you'd have mentioned Barry's sly habit of posting
while those of us living in the U.S. are still asleep.

Am I censoring you?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread wayback71


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@... wrote:
 
  Stocks - Short  Sweet
 
  I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.
 
 
  He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
  goods and ammunition are your best  bet!
 
 And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.


Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
about the possible places to head to.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 I sometimes see astrally perfect versions of what is here on earth, so the 
 perfect templates of the lokas make sense. 

Yes! I generally find those perfect versions are actually inside all things. 
If I fail to see them, I am probably just superimposing stories of imperfection 
on them ...



[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I'm pleased a couple of posters recently shared some of 
 their fiction efforts with us. I also began posting on 
 FFL to work on my writing voice. The reason I picked 
 FFL was I figured what better place to develop my 
 writing voice than a place where people seem to be 
 hearing voices. 

I'm replying to say that I liked your last line above. 

But as for your characterizations of two of the writers 
here, I think you may be off the mark. For the first, 
I'm surprised after your mention of Joyce and Dickens 
that you assume that the age level employed by a 
writer reflects his own. My experience is that many 
writers write to the emotional age of their readers. 

As for the other writer you characterized as a reform 
school mail censor, I think that's unfair and demean-
ing; reform schools have much higher standards than
that for their personnel.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to be 
referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think she was 
brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her and her 
motivations for writiing it.

But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that 
don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
 arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
 according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
 
 But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
 Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away from 
 the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
  wrote:
  
   I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
  
  
  Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
  discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the 
  book.
  
  Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  
  I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a 
  negative impression, but having read it myself I can report that your 
  concerns are unfounded.
  
  No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
  
  Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report after 
  you have read this important insight into an important man in all our 
  lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report that 
  they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
  
  
  
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
   


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
 danfriedman2002@ wrote:
 
  But Curtis,
  
  What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which 
  later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only 
  Smoke.

Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several other 
women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what you think.
 
 So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how do 
 you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as 
 gossip?
 
 Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where 
 you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am 
 assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement 
 about her book without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging 
 it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.
   
   And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed 
   Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then 
   the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo 
   routine now.
   
   What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created a 
   place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened 
   as well as the currently whatever.  Not too shabby IMO.  
   
   Although we have come down in different places concerning 
   spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process 
   that lead him to his own different conclusions.  
   
   And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
   
   
   
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine salsunshine@ 
   wrote:
   
On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:

 Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But then 
 we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not 
 facts.

Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
And, like most other people without badges,
has no way of getting in.  And do you really
think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
let someone take pictures?  You ask for
evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
can supply.  Therefore, for you the situation 
doesn't exist.  If that works for you, great.

Sal
   
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread PaliGap




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I'm sure  many FFL posters know that great fiction writers
 are rarely, if ever, anything like the voices they use for
 their stories. For example, James Joyce was a terrible
 stammerer and Dickens hated children. 
 

I wonder if you share my taste for those great works of romantic
fiction Arrows of Desire, This Side of Heaven and Passionate
Times?

Sadly the writer is no longer with us. But only now I find out
that, instead of being a refined lady of good manners and developed
sensibility, Emma Blair was a a burly 6ft 3in Glaswegian
with a 60-a-day habit and a fondness for a good pint.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14061327



[FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread Duveyoung
One solution is to let the Republicans get full control of the government, and 
if they continued their brutality, and they would, then they'll all be shot 
dead in the streets in short order when they try to set up their brand of 
fascism and of course overreach with a draconian apocalypse that would make 
Wisconsin and Michigan but an insignificant start in their dismantling all 
things good about America.   

Right now, I think the country's on a cusp of a financial civil war, and the 
righties are winning, but at some point, the abuse will pressure cook America 
to violence.

How many grandmothers do we have to see tossed into the streets because the 
government stopped their SSS checks?  There's going to be someone hunting down 
granny's abusers, right? Granny will be avenged.

400 rich guys have stolen over half America's money, and I say we should 
rendition them and drop them off on the streets of Mogadishu..it would be a 
huge success as a reality show, eh?  How can Bob find a handful of rice today? 
 Stay tuned for adventure!

Edg



 

 
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@ wrote:
 
  On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@ wrote:
  
   Stocks - Short  Sweet
  
   I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.
  
  
   He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
   goods and ammunition are your best  bet!
  
  And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.
 
 
 Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
 about the possible places to head to.





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/08/2011 09:36 AM, wayback71 wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@...  wrote:
 On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@... wrote:
 Stocks - Short   Sweet

 I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.


 He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
 goods and ammunition are your best  bet!
 And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.

 Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
 about the possible places to head to.

Nah, we should probably stay and fight Civil War 2.0 which will be a 
class war and is right on schedule.  Though maybe the opposition is 
beginning to crumble as Murdoch's chickens come home to roost.  He so 
deserves it.  And I hope the rest of the MSM collapses as a result.




[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
Not to mention her sly habit of posting after he's gone to bed.If a great hero 
needs a compelling nemesis we might be forgiven for thinking both of these 
voices were created by the same author.

Six hours separate authfriend and turquoiseb if we assume the Eastern United 
States area for the former and the Netherlands for the latter.

I have trouble connecting with friends on the West Coast of the United States 
from the East Coast, and that is just three hours difference.

If we assume a typical schedule, turquoiseb can start posting before authfriend 
wakes up, and vice versa.

Regarding the phrase 'hearing voices', some 40 plus years ago the psychologist 
Julian Janes came up with a theory that at one time the human brain thinking 
process was metaphorically divided into two parts, called the bicameral mind, 
and that this mind (i.e., brain processing) evolutionarily not as integrated as 
our current state, at least when the person experienced novel situations, 
resulted in people hearing more unconscious mental processes as voices - 
auditory hallucinations - which commanded them to action.

This division has since disappeared by modern times. The disappearance is 
called the breakdown of the bicameral mind and is marked by the development of 
introspective thinking and our ideas of consciousness.

I am equivocating here, you were talking about a 'writer's voice'. But this 
group here is pretty weird. Some of us still have Neanderthal genetic material 
passed down to us. Maybe the bicameral mind (if it were actually real) is still 
with us to some degree.

Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?




[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
 Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?

Who isn't? :-D



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread mssonni1
Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
discussing?

Thanks,

K



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats Scandal

2011-07-08 Thread Denise Evans


I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house after years 
of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time, and revel in the 
joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July 4th weekend.  
I can say today that I am grateful for the opportunity to be received by Amma 
and experience what I did at the Amma event.  In trying to make sense of it all 
and put it in some objective context, I have spent hours online (in part, 
educating myself in the cursory fashion that the internet facilitates so well) 
on Hinduism, the guru tradition, and various individual gurus. I have spent 
hours reading posts elucidating a vast range in experiences. Yes, my fear base  
and  trust issues were triggered, which you picked up on.  Yes, this 
experience has reinforced certain beliefs that I already had, but was 
questioning.
However, today, I simply cannot judge or choose to negate anyone's experience 
or path...it is certainly not my place and I am most certainly not qualified. I 
have spent my entire life believing that I was not qualified to live my life 
and did not deserve to be here.  I want relief.  I think that 
basicallygiven what I was told prior to attending the Amma visit, I set up 
internal and high expectations that were, of course, not met.  
I am in recovery on all levels since being laid off in January (by the grace 
of God)...my stress level was so high that I can't even articulate the despair 
and desperation, physical, mental and emotional exhaustion I was experiencing. 
After 6 months off, I am just starting to be able to function again - every 
month, another layer of stress exfoliates and beacon of light shines through.
I am coming out of 18 years of working like a dog for corporate america, 
raising my kids (the last five being the teenage years - it's lucky we fall 
madly in love when they are born and little), realizing as I spiraled into deep 
depression and pain on all levels, that I have to completely change my way of 
living and relating to the world and myself. 
Yes, I went to Amma praying for a miracle or two...desperately wanting to 
feel what unconditional love and compassion felt like on a personal level.  
Yes, I was hit with energy - or shakti, persay - it didn't feel personal.  I 
felt betrayed to some extent by the whole production for many reasons I've 
already articulated, but in the end, I am glad I went and the primary lesson 
that was reiterated to me was that I am left with myself and my relationship to 
the world, the Universe, God.  Establishing and claiming my identity and the 
right to be on this planet in this lifetime is hard for me.
What I have realized (and this is not the first time) is that I was again 
searching outside myself for the answer - that I wanted relief and 
self-forgiveness from something or someone else who was more evolved than I - 
that I have never felt self-love or worthy, or complete in any fashion.  I was 
raised by narcissists, began to self-hate at a very early age and have 
attempted to escape through a variety of ways my entire life.
I hate the word should; I am tired of being told what and how to be.  I don't 
want to follow anyone.  I get to decide - that is my birthright. I am tired of 
reacting rebelliously in an effort to differentiate instead of with respect to 
self and others.
I have decided that I cannot worry about how many more thousands of lifetimes I 
will be condemned to return to the planet to work through my karma, nor do I 
want to aspire to transcending or enlightenment or preparing for the 
afterlife as a primary goal, and in particular as defined by others. I want to 
love my life now and attain and maintain a state of gratitude.  I want to feel 
a connected, peaceful, engaged part of life and revel in the joy of being 
human.  
It's a short trip from cradle to the crypt.  
Ya see,  perhaps I am integrating the experience despite myself and for myself. 
 Tee Hee.
   

--- On Mon, 7/4/11, Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net wrote:

From: Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats  Scandal
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 4, 2011, 1:04 AM















 
 



  



  
  
  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 It appears that almost without exception..the various guru organizations 
 devolve to authoritarian regimes in the endregardless of the 
 enlightenment factorguru's appear to all demonstrate that they are 
 human in the end.
 I realize the Amma followers believe she is benignbut full-on devotees 
 are different and exhibit many of the characteristics and detail many of the 
 experiences in the few accounts available of a cult follower than 
 peripheral followers taking what they like and leaving the rest.  I 
 don't actually like that phrase particularlyit's important to explore the 
 whole picture.
 
You seem hellbent, in a great hurry on 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. 
Have you read it?

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@... wrote:

 Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
 discussing?
 
 Thanks,
 
 K





[FairfieldLife] Re: Sai Baba's Legacy: Death Threats Scandal

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Denise Evans dmevans365@... wrote:

 
 
 I took some time off to stop reacting, start cleaning out my house after 
 years of letting things pile up, mow the lawn for the first time, and revel 
 in the joy of silence of not having my teenagers over the July 4th weekend.  
 I can say today that I am grateful for the opportunity to be received by Amma 
 and experience what I did at the Amma event.  In trying to make sense of it 
 all and put it in some objective context, I have spent hours online (in part, 
 educating myself in the cursory fashion that the internet facilitates so 
 well) on Hinduism, the guru tradition, and various individual gurus. I have 
 spent hours reading posts elucidating a vast range in experiences. Yes, my 
 fear base  and  trust issues were triggered, which you picked up 
 on.  Yes, this experience has reinforced certain beliefs that I already 
 had, but was questioning.
 However, today, I simply cannot judge or choose to negate anyone's experience 
 or path...it is certainly not my place and I am most certainly not qualified. 
 I have spent my entire life believing that I was not qualified to live my 
 life and did not deserve to be here.  I want relief.  I think that 
 basicallygiven what I was told prior to attending the Amma visit, I set 
 up internal and high expectations that were, of course, not met.  
 I am in recovery on all levels since being laid off in January (by the 
 grace of God)...my stress level was so high that I can't even articulate the 
 despair and desperation, physical, mental and emotional exhaustion I was 
 experiencing. After 6 months off, I am just starting to be able to function 
 again - every month, another layer of stress exfoliates and beacon of light 
 shines through.
 I am coming out of 18 years of working like a dog for corporate america, 
 raising my kids (the last five being the teenage years - it's lucky we fall 
 madly in love when they are born and little), realizing as I spiraled into 
 deep depression and pain on all levels, that I have to completely change my 
 way of living and relating to the world and myself. 
 Yes, I went to Amma praying for a miracle or two...desperately wanting to 
 feel what unconditional love and compassion felt like on a personal level. 
  Yes, I was hit with energy - or shakti, persay - it didn't feel personal. 
  I felt betrayed to some extent by the whole production for many reasons 
 I've already articulated, but in the end, I am glad I went and the primary 
 lesson that was reiterated to me was that I am left with myself and my 
 relationship to the world, the Universe, God.  Establishing and claiming my 
 identity and the right to be on this planet in this lifetime is hard for me.
 What I have realized (and this is not the first time) is that I was again 
 searching outside myself for the answer - that I wanted relief and 
 self-forgiveness from something or someone else who was more evolved than I - 
 that I have never felt self-love or worthy, or complete in any fashion.  I 
 was raised by narcissists, began to self-hate at a very early age and have 
 attempted to escape through a variety of ways my entire life.
 I hate the word should; I am tired of being told what and how to be.  I 
 don't want to follow anyone.  I get to decide - that is my birthright. I am 
 tired of reacting rebelliously in an effort to differentiate instead of with 
 respect to self and others.
 I have decided that I cannot worry about how many more thousands of lifetimes 
 I will be condemned to return to the planet to work through my karma, nor 
 do I want to aspire to transcending or enlightenment or preparing for 
 the afterlife as a primary goal, and in particular as defined by others. I 
 want to love my life now and attain and maintain a state of gratitude.  I 
 want to feel a connected, peaceful, engaged part of life and revel in the joy 
 of being human.  
 It's a short trip from cradle to the crypt.  
 Ya see,  perhaps I am integrating the experience despite myself and for 
 myself.  Tee Hee.
    
 
* * Ha! Beautiful. Sweet, honest, and heart-warming. Integrating into 
integrity! 

Quoting Tom T's favorite sutra-meister once again, When we are established in 
truth, our actions achieve the desired results. When we are established in 
integrity, all riches present themselves. 

Thank you so much for sharing your feelings and process with us, Denise!  I 
feel nourished and enriched already!




[FairfieldLife] Yet ANOTHER WI school saves thousands after kicking out Unions!

2011-07-08 Thread wgm4u

Wisconsin schools buck union to cut health costs
By: Byron York | Chief Political Correspondent Follow Him @ByronYork | 07/07/11 
8:05 PM
Getty Images/Justin Sullivan
Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker performs a ceremonial bill signing of the new 
budget law outside his office at the Wisconsin State Capitol on March 11, 2011 
in Madison. The new law helped the Hartland-Lakeside School District save money 
on health care costs by switching providers.
The Hartland-Lakeside School District, about 30 miles west of Milwaukee in tiny 
Hartland, Wis., had a problem in its collective bargaining contract with the 
local teachers union.

The contract required the school district to purchase health insurance from a 
company called WEA Trust. The creation of Wisconsin's largest teachers union -- 
WEA stands for Wisconsin Education Association -- WEA Trust made money when 
union officials used collective bargaining agreements to steer profitable 
business its way.

The problem for Hartland-Lakeside was that WEA Trust was charging significantly 
higher rates than the school district could find on the open market. School 
officials knew that because they got a better deal from United HealthCare for 
coverage of nonunion employees. On more than one occasion, Superintendent Glenn 
Schilling asked WEA Trust why the rates were so high. I could never get a 
definitive answer on that, says Schilling.

Changing to a different insurance company would save Hartland-Lakeside hundreds 
of thousands of dollars that could be spent on key educational priorities -- 
especially important since the cash-strapped state government was cutting back 
on education funding. But teachers union officials wouldn't allow it; the WEA 
Trust requirement was in the contract, and union leaders refused to let 
Hartland-Lakeside off the hook.

That's where Wisconsin's new budget law came in. The law, bitterly opposed by 
organized labor in the state and across the nation, limits the collective 
bargaining powers of some public employees. And it just happens that the 
Hartland-Lakeside teachers' collective bargaining agreement expired on June 30. 
So now, freed from the expensive WEA Trust deal, the school district has 
changed insurers.

It's going to save us about $690,000 in 2011-2012, says Schilling. Insurance 
costs that had been about $2.5 million a year will now be around $1.8 million. 
What union leaders said would be a catastrophe will in fact be a boon to 
teachers and students.

But the effect of weakening collective bargaining goes beyond money. It also 
has the potential to reshape the adversarial culture that often afflicts public 
education. In Hartland-Lakeside, there's been no war between union-busting 
bureaucrats on one side and impassioned teachers on the other; Schilling speaks 
with great collegiality toward the teachers and says with pride that they've 
been able to work together on big issues. But there has been a deep division 
between the school district and top union executives.

In the health insurance talks, for example, Schilling last year began telling 
teachers about different insurance plans, some of which, like United 
HealthCare's, required a higher deductible. We involved them, and they 
overwhelmingly endorsed the change to United HealthCare, he says. But even 
with the teachers on board, when school officials presented a 
change-in-coverage proposal to union officials, it was immediately rejected. 
The costly WEA Trust deal stayed in place.

Now, with the collective bargaining agreement gone, Schilling looks forward to 
working more closely with teachers. I would say the biggest change is we have 
a lot more involvement with a wider scope of teachers, he says. When 
collective bargaining was in effect, We dealt with a select team of teachers, 
a small group of three or four who were on the bargaining team, and then the 
union director. Any information that went to the teachers went through them. 
Now, we feel that we will have a direct dialogue.

It's not hard to see why union officials hate the new law so much. It not only 
breaks up cherished and lucrative union monopolies like high-cost health 
insurance; it also threatens to break through the union-built wall between 
teachers and administrators and allow the two sides to work together more 
closely. The old union go-betweens, who controlled what their members could and 
could not hear, will be left aside.

Hartland-Lakeside isn't the only school district that is pulling free from 
collective bargaining agreements that mandated WEA Trust coverage. The 
Milwaukee Journal Sentinel reports the Pewaukee School District, not far from 
Hartland-Lakeside, will save $378,000 by next year by leaving WEA Trust. The 
Menomonee Falls School District, farther north, will reportedly save $1.3 
million. Facing state cutbacks, the districts can't afford to overpay for 
union-affiliated coverage.

Look for the unions to fight back with everything they have. If the Wisconsin 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread cardemaister


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. 
 Have you read it?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:

Ooksä sonni vai onni? Oletan, että onni! ;D


 
  Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
  discussing?
  
  Thanks,
  
  K
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread mssonni1
I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
interesting, though.

Kat

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. 
 Have you read it?




[FairfieldLife] Mr Happy Man

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
Watch both videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUpGcv44S6w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nveq-kwVu3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nveq-kwVu3gfeature=related
feature=related





 

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Bob Price

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:
snip
 Not to mention her sly habit of posting after he's gone
 to bed.
jst...@panix.com

Well, you *did* say this was fiction, right? 
My mother used to say fiction is as fiction does, or something like that.
jst...@panix.com
I mean, otherwise,
to be fair, you'd have mentioned Barry's sly habit of posting
while those of us living in the U.S. are still asleep.

Am I censoring you?
Absolutely not. 
And I disagree with any poster that says that editors can't write. 
Any poster spreading such scurrilous rumours should study more about how 
Raymond 
Carver and Pat Conroy 
arrived at their brilliance.   

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
http://robesofsilkfeetofclay.com/

You can order iit here as well as read about it more.  Welcome to the board.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@... wrote:

 I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
 interesting, though.
 
 Kat
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith 
  Bourque. Have you read it?





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Bob Price

   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I'm pleased a couple of posters recently shared some of 
 their fiction efforts with us. I also began posting on 
 FFL to work on my writing voice. The reason I picked 
 FFL was I figured what better place to develop my 
 writing voice than a place where people seem to be 
 hearing voices. 
(turquoiseb...)

I'm replying to say that I liked your last line above. 
Any reply is more than appreciated
(turquoiseb...)
 
But as for your characterizations of two of the writers 
here, I think you may be off the mark. For the first, 
I'm surprised after your mention of Joyce and Dickens 
that you assume that the age level employed by a 
writer reflects his own. My experience is that many 
writers write to the emotional age of their readers. 
Like most narcissists I tend to write for myself, most days I feel
about 13.
(turquoiseb...)
As for the other writer you characterized as a reform 
school mail censor, I think that's unfair and demean-
ing; reform schools have much higher standards than
that for their personnel.
Easy for you to say, you're still not an inmate.


 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Bob Price


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I'm sure  many FFL posters know that great fiction writers
 are rarely, if ever, anything like the voices they use for
 their stories. For example, James Joyce was a terrible
 stammerer and Dickens hated children. 
 
compost...@yahoo.co.uk

I wonder if you share my taste for those great works of romantic
fiction Arrows of Desire, This Side of Heaven and Passionate
Times?

Sadly the writer is no longer with us. But only now I find out
that, instead of being a refined lady of good manners and developed
sensibility, Emma Blair was a a burly 6ft 3in Glaswegian
with a 60-a-day habit and a fondness for a good pint.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-14061327
I have not had the pleasure of reading this author although after your post I 
plan to rectify that. 
My favourite contemporary (there's a reason Dickens is buried in Westminster 
Abbey) British writers
are John Le Carre and Salman Rushdie, with Ian McEwan a close third. Although I 
have to admit to disappointment
that they did not continue their correspondence covered in the following link.
http://www.nytimes.com/books/99/04/18/specials/rushdie-lecarre.html

 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Fwd: FW: Stocks - Short Sweet

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
Basically the last three Republican presidents ran up the debt on the 
national credit card.  Republicans partied hardy.  Now the bill is due 
and they don't want to pay it.  They want you and me to pay it for 
them.  Fuck 'em.

On 07/08/2011 11:34 AM, Duveyoung wrote:
 One solution is to let the Republicans get full control of the government, 
 and if they continued their brutality, and they would, then they'll all be 
 shot dead in the streets in short order when they try to set up their brand 
 of fascism and of course overreach with a draconian apocalypse that would 
 make Wisconsin and Michigan but an insignificant start in their dismantling 
 all things good about America.

 Right now, I think the country's on a cusp of a financial civil war, and the 
 righties are winning, but at some point, the abuse will pressure cook America 
 to violence.

 How many grandmothers do we have to see tossed into the streets because the 
 government stopped their SSS checks?  There's going to be someone hunting 
 down granny's abusers, right? Granny will be avenged.

 400 rich guys have stolen over half America's money, and I say we should 
 rendition them and drop them off on the streets of Mogadishu..it would be 
 a huge success as a reality show, eh?  How can Bob find a handful of rice 
 today?  Stay tuned for adventure!

 Edg






 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71wayback71@...  wrote:


 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitunoozguru@  wrote:
 On 07/08/2011 05:37 AM, WLeed3@ wrote:
 Stocks - Short   Sweet

 I called my stockbroker and asked him what I should be  buying.


 He said, If the current administration is in office much  longer, canned
 goods and ammunition are your best  bet!
 And if the Republicans take over again, a condo in Belize.

 Actually, if the Repubs do get in, we need to have a discussion here on FFL 
 about the possible places to head to.






[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread whynotnow7
Yep I have found the same thing, but didn't want to go into details unless 
someone mentioned it first. Regarding seeing the perfection I mean that 
literally and visually, though it doesn't always match up exactly with the 
surface picture. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  I sometimes see astrally perfect versions of what is here on earth, so the 
  perfect templates of the lokas make sense. 
 
 Yes! I generally find those perfect versions are actually inside all 
 things. If I fail to see them, I am probably just superimposing stories of 
 imperfection on them ...





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Bob Price







Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
My wife prefers big G.

 

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of mssonni1
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 2:30 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  

I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable. It sounds
interesting, though.

Kat

If you happen to be in Fairfield, Iowa, the public library has a couple of
copies.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Bob Price








 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
anartaxius@... wrote:
 Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
roryg...@hotmail.com

Who isn't? :-D
Couldn't agree more. 
I've always thought my thinking was hearing voices. 
The wife said 
the problem with that insight is that you seem to think that so much of what 
you're hearing deserves to be repeated verbally.

 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Hm! I am sorry to hear that it's unavailable on Amazon, Kat. 

Perhaps Rick might be able to come up with one or know where one can be 
obtained; I have changed the subject heading accordingly to try and get his 
attention.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@... wrote:

 I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
 interesting, though.
 
 Kat
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith 
  Bourque. Have you read it?





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread whynotnow7
Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of Star Trek: The Wrath 
of Khan, but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban. OK, 
starting to make sense now...

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith Bourque. 
 Have you read it?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
 
  Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
  discussing?
  
  Thanks,
  
  K
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Summa Wrestling

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Yep I have found the same thing, but didn't want to go into details unless 
 someone mentioned it first. Regarding seeing the perfection I mean that 
 literally and visually, though it doesn't always match up exactly with the 
 surface picture. 
 
* * Here too -- although many times I find the surface picture does change to 
reflect the inner one...



[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Xenophaneros Anartaxius 
 anartaxius@ wrote:
  Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
 rorygoff@...
 
 Who isn't? :-D
 Couldn't agree more. 
 I've always thought my thinking was hearing voices. 
 The wife said 
 the problem with that insight is that you seem to think that so much of what 
 you're hearing deserves to be repeated verbally.

* * Ha! Your wife sounds a lot like mine :-)



[FairfieldLife] New camera attached to outside of Space Station

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
This is a 2-minute video of a new camera system that will soon be attached to 
the outside of the Space Station to give 24-7 access to views of Earth.

 

See it! 
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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of RoryGoff
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:01 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help
a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

 

  

Hm! I am sorry to hear that it's unavailable on Amazon, Kat. 

Perhaps Rick might be able to come up with one or know where one can be
obtained; I have changed the subject heading accordingly to try and get his
attention.

You got it, but Curtis already posted the link. If she's in FF, the library
has copies.



[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread Xenophaneros Anartaxius
I used lower case, in case anyone had different ones. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartaxius@...
 Who here is hearing instructions directly from god?
 My wife prefers big G.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff
Hmm... Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban ... I can see it now!

SCENE: Heaven-on-Earth, aka Fantasy Island, with RICARDO MONTALBAN as MR. 
ROARKE and MMY as the diminutive TATTOO:

MMY: De plane, boss! De cosmic plane! Let us ring de bell of invincibility for 
every nation. Hm?

Ricardo: Ahh, here come our current guests. You see, Tattoo, everyone who comes 
to Fantasy Island gets what they most passionately desire... but not everyone 
is prepared to admit what they really want! 

MMY: Deserve and then desire! It is easy, yes?

Ricardo: It is easy, No, Tattoo. If it were always easy, we wouldn't have a 
show, would we! And where's the fun in that?

(and so on)



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@... wrote:

 Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of Star Trek: The 
 Wrath of Khan, but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo 
 Montalban. OK, starting to make sense now...
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
 
  Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith 
  Bourque. Have you read it?
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
  
   Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
   discussing?
   
   Thanks,
   
   K
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Attn: RICK -- copy of Robes of Silk? [was: Help a Saint -Lose Your Badge]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

  You got it, but Curtis already posted the link. If she's in FF, the library
 has copies.


* * Thanks, Curtis, and thanks, Rick! 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@... wrote:

 I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
 interesting, though.

A book by a golddigger, now for the time being pschycic reader ?
C'mon !


 
 Kat





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread mssonni1
I know nothing about the book, I was merely asking.

K

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
 
 A book by a golddigger, now for the time being pschycic reader ?
 C'mon !




[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
 
  I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
  interesting, though.
 
 A book by a golddigger, now for the time being pschycic reader ?
 C'mon !

It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist like 
the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.


  
  Kat





RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 3:51 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

  



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , nablusoss1008 no_reply@...
wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com , mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
 
  I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable. It sounds
interesting, though.
 
 A book by a golddigger, now for the time being pschycic reader ?
 C'mon !

It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist
like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.

Stick around, Kat. If you're anything like me, you'll find Nablusoss1008
(Nabby) endlessly entertaining.

 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
Nabby's right, reading this book made me rich beyond my wildest dreams.   Every 
month I get a fat check from the movement so I wont reveal what I read to 
anyone.  So if you are looking for a quick easy way to make a couple stacks of 
dead presidents EVERY month, then you should read Judith's book and rake in the 
dough.  Rake it in like a real gold digger!

I think it is unlikely that she made much if anything on a small private 
printing like this.  If she was a gold digger  as you claim she would have 
shaken down Maharishi while he was alive when it was worth something.  She went 
away and waited to tell her story after he died out of respect for the guy, a 
man she loved.

And I'm not sure you are the one to be casting aspersions on her being a 
psychic Nabby.  I can't think of anyone more on the fringe of beliefs than you 
are with the Creme routine.  You are the guy who believes Sai Baba's You Can Be 
A Magician Magic Set for Pre-teens magic tricks.  So if a chick claims to be 
intuitive it rocks your credibility world?  That cow left your barn decades ago.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
  
   I haven't, and just look on Amazon and it's unavailable.  It sounds 
   interesting, though.
  
  A book by a golddigger, now for the time being pschycic reader ?
  C'mon !
 
 It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
 like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.
 
 
   
   Kat
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 Nabby's right, reading this book made me rich beyond my wildest dreams.   
 Every month I get a fat check from the movement so I wont reveal what I read 
 to anyone.  So if you are looking for a quick easy way to make a couple 
 stacks of dead presidents EVERY month, then you should read Judith's book and 
 rake in the dough.  Rake it in like a real gold digger!
 
 I think it is unlikely that she made much if anything on a small private 
 printing like this.  If she was a gold digger  as you claim she would have 
 shaken down Maharishi while he was alive when it was worth something

She's coward. That's why she did'nt spread the shit while he was alive.

  She went away and waited to tell her story after he died out of respect for 
the guy, a man she loved.
 
 And I'm not sure you are the one to be casting aspersions on her being a 
 psychic Nabby.  I can't think of anyone more on the fringe of beliefs than 
 you are with the Creme routine.  You are the guy who believes Sai Baba's You 
 Can Be A Magician Magic Set for Pre-teens magic tricks.  So if a chick claims 
 to be intuitive it rocks your credibility world?  That cow left your barn 
 decades ago.

As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying to 
make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

 As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying
to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)

 

That silly book which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for My
mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!



[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread feste37
I think the best fictional voice on FFL is that of the wife, as Bob refers to 
her, who reminds me of She Who Must Be Obeyed in John Mortimer's Rumpole 
series. Definitely a formidable off-stage character.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bob Price bobpriced@... wrote:

 I'm pleased a couple of posters recently shared some of their fiction 
 efforts with us. I also began posting on FFL to work on my writing   voice. 
 The reason I picked FFL was   I figured what better place to develop 
 my writing voice than a place where  people seem to be hearing voices. 
 
 I'm sending this post to share some thoughts on writing rather than share 
 any actual writing. But what the hell, the following paragraph is my effort 
 to expand on the life of the hermaphrodite shape  shifter 
 and after that I'll share some lizards advocate  stuff 
 I'm hoping to get off my  propellers.
 
 The shape shifter Bukwas never wavered from his mission. 
 He had been sent to the lonely planet 
 to move the apes who spoke in many tongues 
 toward the next level of their evolution. The 
 catalysing myth he planned to use for his mission 
 was to spread the teaching  that, 
 'Things are what they  seem and God is in the  details'
 The mantra he used in his TM like  meditation, 
 to remind him of his mission, was 
 
 you can say that again'.
 
 From - Shape shifting on a lonely planet'
 
 The lizards advocate stuff:
 
 I'm sure  many FFL posters know that great fiction writers are rarely, 
 if ever, anything like the voices they use for their stories. 
 For example, James Joyce was a terrible stammerer and 
 Dickens hated children. 
 
 With this in mind, I'd like to share some insights I've had about a couple 
 of FFL posters who seem to   know a lot about developing effective authorial  
  
 voices. 
 Specifically, I want to share a little about the voices I'm hearing 
 as I read Judy and Turq's posts. 
 
 I think Turq sometimes shares a writing voice that absolutely nails 
 the emotional palette of a 8 year old. Not just any 8 year old, 
 but a 8 year old who can write  brilliantly. At times, this  voice includes 
 a sense of wonder 
 for ideas that for some of us can completely suspend any perception of the  
 mundane 
 one might have for old french cars driven mostly by Egyptian taxi drivers.  
 
 Judy's writing voice, on the other hand, no less masterful than  Turq's, 
 seems at times to be that of  a reform school mail censor, 
 who knows Turq and believes he will eventually be an inmate in the 
 institution 
 where she works. Her devotion to research and detail are a  marvel 
 for any one who believes voice is everything in fiction. Not to mention her 
 sly 
 habit of posting after he's gone to bed.If a great hero needs a compelling 
 nemesis 
 we might be forgiven for thinking both of these voices were created by the 
 same  
 author.
 
 If  any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at most by 
 three, 
 and that by course; 
 and let one interpret. But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence 
 in 
 the church; and let him speak to himself, and to  God.
 
 1 Corinthians 14:27-28





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where vehicles 
are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was Egypt. 
I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just follow my 
itinerary.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  Curtis,
  
  Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
  arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
  according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
  
  But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
  Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
  from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
  
 * * Wow, Dan, I had no idea. I am most happy to hear you are staying away 
 from the shootouts, as well as to hear you will be reading Judith's book. I 
 too look forward to hearing your thoughts on it. Stay well!





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@... wrote:
 
 It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
 like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.

... or an idiot like that other fellow who recommends it so heartily, Rory Goff 
:-)



[FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
 

 

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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Curtis,

I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be one 
of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of tea for 
all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead 
of time.¨

Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I change 
my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally indecisive).


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to be 
 referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think she 
 was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her and her 
 motivations for writiing it.
 
 But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that 
 don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  Curtis,
  
  Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
  arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
  according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
  
  But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
  Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
  from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
   danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
   
   
   Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids any 
   discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip in the 
   book.
   
   Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story too.  
   I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you a 
   negative impression, but having read it myself I can report that your 
   concerns are unfounded.
   
   No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
   
   Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
   after you have read this important insight into an important man in all 
   our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report 
   that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
   
   
   
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
  danfriedman2002@ wrote:
  
   But Curtis,
   
   What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, which 
   later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only 
   Smoke.
 
 Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
 other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what 
 you think.
  
  So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how 
  do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as 
  gossip?
  
  Of course if you read the book and found some specific places where 
  you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I am 
  assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement 
  about her book without having read it.  You know kind of prejudging 
  it based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
  
  
  
  
  
  
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  This request is not reasonable.

And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed 
Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and 
then the book came out. So I think we can drop the tired 
innuendo routine now.

What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created 
a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly 
enlightened as well as the currently whatever.  Not too 
shabby IMO.  

Although we have come down in different places concerning 
spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process 
that lead him to his own different conclusions.  

And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.






--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine 
salsunshine@ wrote:

 On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
 
  Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But 
  then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, 

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:19 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
 inDOMES
 
  
 
  As you can see from the above Kat, the woman writing that silly book trying
 to make a few dollars, is not the only one to be in deep shit :-)
 
  
 
 That silly book which Nabby hasn't read. He's FFL's poster boy for My
 mind is made up, don't confuse me with the facts!


You see Kat, Rick has been mixing facts now for so many years, meeting almost 
all the so-called saints under the sun that he is all mixed up :-) 
In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a book to 
know the content.



[FairfieldLife] Re: hearing voices

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, feste37 feste37@... wrote:

 I think the best fictional voice on FFL is that of the wife, as Bob refers 
 to her, who reminds me of She Who Must Be Obeyed in John Mortimer's Rumpole 
 series. Definitely a formidable off-stage character.
 
* ** Good point, feste. A time-honored device! Reminds me of Norm's wife Vera 
on Cheers, or Nile's Maris on Frazier...



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
 weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where 
 vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
 So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
 happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was 
 Egypt. I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just 
 follow my itinerary.
 
Ha! The name is Friedman, Dan T. Friedman. The T is for Trouble, my middle 
name...



RE: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for Here is the
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cached copy while it still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002

oh, oh!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

  
 
  
 
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 no_reply@ wrote:
  
  It's interesting to you only if you are goldigger too. Or a sensationalist 
  like the fellow who is insisting you read that nonsense, Rick Archer.
 
 ... or an idiot like that other fellow who recommends it so heartily, Rory 
 Goff :-)

HeHe :-)



RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of nablusoss1008
Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:37 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
inDOMES

 

 In fact he is so mixed up that he insists one has to actually read a book
to know the content.

 

Yeah, unlike Superman, who in an episode I saw back in the 50's could scan a
whole bookshelf with his x-ray vision and know everything in the books in a
few moments.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Rory,

I don´t see it that way. We certainly have opposing views on ¨troublemakers, 
difficult people, and the like¨.

Not only do we differ philisophically on this point, but I certainly don´t 
blame myself for the mischief of others.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  Rory,
  
  I agree that we are all One, but different.
 
 Ha! Yes, Dan, can't argue with that! 
 
 I was just trying to point out that if someone out there disturbs us, it's 
 really not out there at all, but our own thoughts in here that are doing 
 the disturbing :-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008
  To: rick@
  Subject: Notice of Infringement
  Importance: High
  
   
  
  RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife 
  
   
  
  Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. (Yahoo!) in
  compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) that you have
  submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
  proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
  Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
  the material in question at:
  
   
  
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1 
  
  Here is the proof- Message to Governors from Bevan
  
   
  
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  holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
  Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
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  As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
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  If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
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One could only wish this to be the end of Rick's desire to smire Maharishi and 
his legacy as much as possible in this life and on Yahoo! If possible; on any 
other adress on the web.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Out there, In here [was; another question for MZ,..]

2011-07-08 Thread RoryGoff


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 Rory,
 
 I don´t see it that way. We certainly have opposing views on ¨troublemakers, 
 difficult people, and the like¨.

* * OK :-)
 
 Not only do we differ philisophically on this point, but I certainly don´t 
 blame myself for the mischief of others.

* * I don't blame myself either, Dan, or anyone else, for that matter. I do try 
to take full responsibility for everything that arises in my awareness, i.e., 
my own I-particles or thought-waves, but there is certainly no blame 
involved. If anything, I sometimes ask their forgiveness for having 
unconsciously created them the way they are... :-)



[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for Here is the
 proof- Message to Governors from Bevan (quotes included) and look at the
 cached copy while it still exists. From now on, everyone should refrain from
 posting any copyright TMO material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such
 material if posted.


Appealing for readers to find the mentioned post does not favor Rick Archer. 

Let's hope Bevan sues the rumormonger Mr.Archer from A to Z and back.



Re: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
I was wondering how long it would take the Varma Crime Family to attack 
FFL probably in hopes of eliminating it   You can probably get away with 
links to TMO articles but they're trying to outlaw that too.  Note that 
if I post a link to news article I often just quote the opening because 
some news bureaus don't mind that and in fact some have done an 
interesting thing that if you copy just part of the article it will add 
the link to the article.  Those act as a teaser.  Basically you should 
never quote a full article without permission.  If the post in question 
only posted a sentence or two then it should be construed as fair use.

On 07/08/2011 02:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:




 From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyri...@yahoo-inc.com]
 Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
 To: r...@searchsummit.com
 Subject: Notice of Infringement
 Importance: High



 RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife



 Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. (Yahoo!) in
 compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) that you have
 submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
 proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
 Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
 the material in question at:



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 Here is the proof- Message to Governors from Bevan



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Re: [FairfieldLife] Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 Here is the
 proof- Message to Governors from Bevan

You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
ya. ;-)




[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread curtisdeltablues
That was a nice response Dan, thanks.

The funny thing is I didn't expect the book to have the effect on me it had.  
It surprised me.  I had as many or more preconceptions as you have raised here, 
so I really shouldn't be on some high horse about it with you.  I expected it 
to give me a blasphemous giggle and that was about it.

I think she took so long because it took her decades to find the right tone to 
express her complex and often conflicted feelings.  The last thing I expected 
was for the book to make me feel closer to the guy with this window on his more 
easy to relate to normal life.  Maharishi was a little older than I am now when 
he had this relationship, so I feel like I can understand him better than I 
could in my more idealistic 20's.  And since my own feelings about the guy are 
both complex and somewhat conflicted, it rang true for me and validated a lot 
of those feelings.

I appreciate your hearing me out.  




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@... 
wrote:

 Curtis,
 
 I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be 
 one of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of 
 tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve mischaracterizing 
 it ahead of time.¨
 
 Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I 
 change my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally 
 indecisive).
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@ 
 wrote:
 
  I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to 
  be referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think 
  she was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her and 
  her motivations for writiing it.
  
  But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons 
  that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
  
  
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
  wrote:
  
   Curtis,
   
   Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
   arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
   according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.
   
   But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
   Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
   from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
danfriedman2002@ wrote:

 I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.


Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids 
any discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any gossip 
in the book.

Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story 
too.  I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave you 
a negative impression, but having read it myself I can report that your 
concerns are unfounded.

No personal intimacies, and gossip free!

Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
after you have read this important insight into an important man in all 
our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it report 
that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.





 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
 
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
   danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
But Curtis,

What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, 
which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not 
fire, only Smoke.
  
  Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
  other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know what 
  you think.
   
   So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then how 
   do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts 
   as gossip?
   
   Of course if you read the book and found some specific places 
   where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  I 
   am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this 
   judgement about her book without having read it.  You know kind 
   of prejudging it based on gossip you heard about what was in the 
   book.
   
   
   
   
   
   

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 I'm with Sal on this one Dan.  

[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Rick,

no


P.S. Your predjudices are apparant.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
 On Behalf Of danfriedman2002
 Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:39 PM
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER
 inDOMES
 
  
 
   
 
 I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
 
 You mean you don't actually read them. You just pass judgment on them.





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Yesterday, I finished ¨Songs of Kabir¨translated by Arvind Krishna Mehrotra, 
with a Preface by Wendy Doniger. I found it delightful, full of wisdom, and 
FUNNY¨. I,m certain that others on this Forem would enjoy the read.

I began¨Great House¨, and am on page29. The author, Nicole Krauss previously 
wrote ¨The Histoy of Love¨, which I loved. Both were given to me by my daughter 
(who, as you can expect introduces her Dad to new work). My daughter managed to 
get the auther to autograph Great House, and presentewd it to me on my 
birthday. So far, the setting is the Upper West Side of Manhattan, where I have 
lived for most of my life. The narrator is an author, as are many in the 
´hood´´.

Probably, one of these will suit you, dpending on your interests.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, seventhray1 steve.sundur@... wrote:

 
 
 Care to share some of the recent books you have read?
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002
 danfriedman2002@ wrote:
 
  I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ wrote:
  
  
  
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002
 danfriedman2002@ wrote:

 But Curtis,

 What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago,
 which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not fire, only
 Smoke.
  
   Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims. Several
 other women have as well. Read the book and then let us know what you
 think.
   
So you are not a fan of first person histories are you? Then how
 do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person accounts as
 gossip?
   
Of course if you read the book and found some specific places
 where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them. I am
 assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this judgement
 about her book without having read it. You know kind of prejudging it
 based on gossip you heard about what was in the book.
   
   
   
   
   
   

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues
 curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
 
  I'm with Sal on this one Dan. This request is not reasonable.
 
  And as far as Rick not coming through with facts, he backed
 Judith's account for years, was way ahead of the curve, and then the
 book came out. So I think we can drop the tired innuendo routine now.
 
  What Rick is prone to is having an open mind. He has created
 a place where atheist's can interact with the formerly enlightened as
 well as the currently whatever. Not too shabby IMO.
 
  Although we have come down in different places concerning
 spirituality, I have respect for the integrity of the process that lead
 him to his own different conclusions.
 
  And if he smells smoke, I'm betting on fire soon to come.
 
 
 
 
 
 
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine
 salsunshine@ wrote:
  
   On Jun 28, 2011, at 8:19 PM, danfriedman2002 wrote:
  
Your request for a picture of a sign is a good one. But
 then we'd be dealing with facts. Rick's prone to innuendo, not facts.
  
   Um, Dan...Rick hasn't been in the Doom in years.
   And, like most other people without badges,
   has no way of getting in. And do you really
   think with all the paranoia in the TMO they'd
   let someone take pictures? You ask for
   evidence that I'm pretty sure you know nobody
   can supply. Therefore, for you the situation
   doesn't exist. If that works for you, great.
  
   Sal
  
 

   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
  Here is the
  proof- Message to Governors from Bevan
 
 You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
 ya. ;-)


Not only that but Rick posted instructions for obtaing the article from Google 
long after he received Yahoo!'s letter. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@... wrote:

 If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
 Here is the proof- Message to Governors from Bevan (quotes
 included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
 now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
 material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
 posted.

Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO community announcement 
stuff for years, and it's never been a problem. My inclination would be to just 
keep things as they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in the 
archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.



[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Wish I could live uo to that reputation. In fact, as the current trouble 
unfolded, I secured myself in my hotel, and haven´t gone out. You will probably 
notice the vast # of posts (for me). That´s because I´m self-sequestered for 
self-preservation.

When my posts stop, that hopefully means that the ´coast is clear´enough to 
venture downtown.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  I had to stay away from the shootouts last night, by necessity. The taxis 
  weren´t driving into Morelia Center for fear of ´taxi hijcking´, where 
  vehicles are hijacked to be set on fire as a blockade.
  So I missed the action reports of 7 dead. What is puzzling to me is how I 
  happen to travel to every trouble spot, without intent. Last time it was 
  Egypt. I think that anyone wanting to report on these scoops should just 
  follow my itinerary.
  
 Ha! The name is Friedman, Dan T. Friedman. The T is for Trouble, my middle 
 name...





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread danfriedman2002
Curtis,

I grok your feelings, but, as different people are differrent, my feelings for 
Maharishi are neither complex, nor conflicted. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues curtisdeltablues@... 
wrote:

 That was a nice response Dan, thanks.
 
 The funny thing is I didn't expect the book to have the effect on me it had.  
 It surprised me.  I had as many or more preconceptions as you have raised 
 here, so I really shouldn't be on some high horse about it with you.  I 
 expected it to give me a blasphemous giggle and that was about it.
 
 I think she took so long because it took her decades to find the right tone 
 to express her complex and often conflicted feelings.  The last thing I 
 expected was for the book to make me feel closer to the guy with this window 
 on his more easy to relate to normal life.  Maharishi was a little older than 
 I am now when he had this relationship, so I feel like I can understand him 
 better than I could in my more idealistic 20's.  And since my own feelings 
 about the guy are both complex and somewhat conflicted, it rang true for me 
 and validated a lot of those feelings.
 
 I appreciate your hearing me out.  
 
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 danfriedman2002@ 
 wrote:
 
  Curtis,
  
  I appreciate your balanced review. I think I´ll hold off for now. I may be 
  one of those who you´ve honestly described as ¨it isn't everybody's cup of 
  tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons that don't involve 
  mischaracterizing it ahead of time.¨
  
  Thank you for providing so much info. I´ll be sure to let you know if I 
  change my mind again (based on further info, it is not that I´m generally 
  indecisive).
  
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
  curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
  
   I was just standing up to Judith and her book which deserves more than to 
   be referred to as gossip out of hand.  It is a moving account and I think 
   she was brave to come out with it knowing how people would prejudge her 
   and her motivations for writiing it.
   
   But it isn't everybody's cup of tea for all sorts of legitimate reasons 
   that don't involve mischaracterizing it ahead of time.
   
   
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
   danfriedman2002@ wrote:
   
Curtis,

Based on your personal recommendation, I will get a copy soon after my 
arrival back in NYC. I should add that I LOVE READING (a bit too much, 
according to my optomitrist), and welcome our upcoming discussion.

But for the moment, I need to get back to today´s newspaper, here in 
Morelia,MX, which is reporting on last night´s drug wars (I stayed away 
from the shootouts last night, just too much adventure just now).

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
curtisdeltablues@ wrote:

 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
 danfriedman2002@ wrote:
 
  I don´t chose books on (1) personal intimacies, or (2) gossip.
 
 
 Then you are going to love Judith's book because it tastefully avoids 
 any discussion of personal intimacies and she dosn't repeat any 
 gossip in the book.
 
 Remember Maharishi's book Love and God?  While this is a love story 
 too.  I'm sorry if some of the gossip you heard about the book gave 
 you a negative impression, but having read it myself I can report 
 that your concerns are unfounded.
 
 No personal intimacies, and gossip free!
 
 Now that we've cleared that up I can't wait to hear your book report 
 after you have read this important insight into an important man in 
 all our lives, Maharishi. Most of the people I know who have read it 
 report that they feel much closer to him as a person after reading it.
 
 
 
 
 
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wayback71 wayback71@ 
  wrote:
  
   
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, curtisdeltablues 
   curtisdeltablues@ wrote:
   
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, danfriedman2002 
danfriedman2002@ wrote:

 But Curtis,
 
 What you are saying is that Rick reported gossip years ago, 
 which later appeared in a book by the gossiper. That´s not 
 fire, only Smoke.
   
   Dan, Judithe is not the only woman to make these claims.  Several 
   other women have as well.  Read the book and then let us know 
   what you think.

So you are not a fan of first person histories are you?  Then 
how do you learn about the past if you dismiss first person 
accounts as gossip?

Of course if you read the book and found some specific places 
where you question her credibility I would enjoy hearing them.  
I am assuming that you wouldn't be shallow enough to make this 

[FairfieldLife] Return of the nickelodeon?

2011-07-08 Thread Bhairitu
Vudu.com that I occasionally rent streaming movies from to watch on my 
Bluray player had a 99 cent feature where daily they would offer a film 
for 99 cents.  Recently some of these were fairly new releases.  For the 
last two days they have been offering 5 cent movies.  Today's 5 cent 
feature is Jumper.   You can also watch Vudu on a computer too.  Now I 
do need to warn you that last year Walmart bought Vudu so if you hate 
Walmart then you may not want to patronize Vudu.

http://www.vudu.com/movies/Movies.html

And I don't know  how long the 5 cent deals will last.

Since my Acer a500 Android tablet got upgraded to 3.1 the other night I 
now have the Google Videos app installed.  Supposedly this will allow me 
to rent movies off the Android Market to watch.  I haven't tried it yet 
because I wanted to pick up a mini-HDMI cable so when I do try it I can 
finish the film by hooking up the tablet to my big screen TV.  Well 
unfortunately Fry's was out of reasonably priced $10 min-HDMI cables and 
people had also cleaned out the $13 ones too. A clerk even checked to 
see if there were more in the back.  HDMI cables are nothing but wire 
work the same if you spend $10 on or $50.




[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread Duveyoung
Rick,

I'd caution ya to go through the files and cull out the bad ones now, and I'd 
like to hear what you will do to any poster who posts copyrighted material on 
purpose in order to close down FFL.I ask, because there's irky-jerks here 
who would do just that.  Probably most MMY photos are easy to frame as 
copyrighted material, so you might have to dump almost all of the 
photos.onto some other public server that can be linked to from FFLor?

One thing's for sure, Yahoo will just flat out dump ya in short order if they 
have to handle this issue again, and they'll let you take MUM to court and get 
an order from the court to re-instate FFL, before they'd even consider 
activation.

So they've got the power and will use it to lessen their frictionseven if 
they can see that there is no loss to MUM by such publishing.

Edg

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 On 07/08/2011 02:45 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
  Here is the
  proof- Message to Governors from Bevan
 
 You were the one that posted the article?  Looks like they're out to get 
 ya. ;-)





[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread whynotnow7
I hope that Rick resolves this as a single issue, which is all it is. Paleeze 
let's not all squawk about how we are the target of the TMO. Its embarrassing.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Bhairitu noozguru@... wrote:

 I was wondering how long it would take the Varma Crime Family to attack 
 FFL probably in hopes of eliminating it   You can probably get away with 
 links to TMO articles but they're trying to outlaw that too.  Note that 
 if I post a link to news article I often just quote the opening because 
 some news bureaus don't mind that and in fact some have done an 
 interesting thing that if you copy just part of the article it will add 
 the link to the article.  Those act as a teaser.  Basically you should 
 never quote a full article without permission.  If the post in question 
 only posted a sentence or two then it should be construed as fair use.
 
 On 07/08/2011 02:41 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
 
 
 
 
  From: Yahoo! Copyright [mailto:copyright@...]
  Sent: Friday, July 08, 2011 4:32 PM
  To: rick@...
  Subject: Notice of Infringement
  Importance: High
 
 
 
  RE: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife
 
 
 
  Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent has notified Yahoo! Inc. (Yahoo!) in
  compliance with the Digital Millennium Copyright Act (DMCA) that you have
  submitted to the Yahoo! Group FairfieldLife copyrighted material which is
  proprietary to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc. Maharishi Foundation USA,
  Inc's agent has further notified Yahoo! that you are not authorized to use
  the material in question at:
 
 
 
  http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/239106?var=1
 
  Here is the proof- Message to Governors from Bevan
 
 
 
  Yahoo! respects the rights of both its users and the owners, and rights
  holders of intellectual property. In compliance with the Digital Millennium
  Copyright Act and/or other applicable federal law, Yahoo! has removed and/or
  disabled access to the copyrighted material in question.
 
 
 
  As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts
  without notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo!
  has or may have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another
  notification alleging the unauthorized posting by you of another party's
  intellectual property in connection with any Yahoo! service may result in
  not only the suspension of all Yahoo! Groups for which you are the
  designated owner, but the termination of all of your Yahoo! services as well
  as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID.
 
 
 
  If you wish to attempt to resolve the matter by dealing with Maharishi
  Foundation USA, Inc's agent directly, Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's agent
  may be contacted at:
 
 
 
   Email: jrs@...
 
 
 
  If you believe that you were designated by Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
  agent by mistake or misidentification, or if you believe that you have not
  infringed the copyrights of Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc, you may submit a
  sworn counter-notification as to the mistake or misidentification. To be
  effective, counter-notifications must be in writing and include:
 
 
 
  1.  Identification of the material that has been removed or to which
  access has been disabled, including the location at which the material
  appeared before it was removed or access to it was disabled;
  2.  A statement under penalty of perjury that you have a good faith
  belief that the material was removed or disabled as a result of mistake or
  misidentification;
  3.  Your name, address and telephone number, and a statement that you
  consent to the jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for the judicial
  district in which the address provided by you is located (or if the address
  provided by you is outside the United States, that you consent to the
  jurisdiction of the Federal District Court for any judicial district in
  which Yahoo! may be found), and that you will accept service of process from
  the complaining party or its agent; and
  4.  Your physical or electronic signature on the counter-notification.
 
 
 
  Any counter-notification must be submitted to Yahoo!'s Copyright Agent in
  accordance with the contact information provided below, which is also
  available at:
 
 
 
  http://info.yahoo.com/copyright/details.html
 
 
 
  Please be advised that Yahoo! will provide a copy of such a
  counter-notification (including your name, address, telephone number and any
  other contact information provided) to Maharishi Foundation USA, Inc's
  agent.
 
 
 
  Thank you in advance for your anticipated cooperation.
 
 
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
  Copyright/IP Agent, Yahoo! Inc.
 
  copyright@...
 
  
 
  c/o Yahoo! Inc.
 
  701 First Ave.
 
  Sunnyvale, CA 94089
 
 
 
 





[FairfieldLife] Re: Help a Saint -Lose Your BadgeNO SIGN EVER inDOMES

2011-07-08 Thread whynotnow7
HA HA HA HA - nice riff Rory! 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@... wrote:

 Hmm... Maharishi vs. Ricardo Montalban ... I can see it now!
 
 SCENE: Heaven-on-Earth, aka Fantasy Island, with RICARDO MONTALBAN as MR. 
 ROARKE and MMY as the diminutive TATTOO:
 
 MMY: De plane, boss! De cosmic plane! Let us ring de bell of invincibility 
 for every nation. Hm?
 
 Ricardo: Ahh, here come our current guests. You see, Tattoo, everyone who 
 comes to Fantasy Island gets what they most passionately desire... but not 
 everyone is prepared to admit what they really want! 
 
 MMY: Deserve and then desire! It is easy, yes?
 
 Ricardo: It is easy, No, Tattoo. If it were always easy, we wouldn't have a 
 show, would we! And where's the fun in that?
 
 (and so on)
 
 
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, whynotnow7 whynotnow7@ wrote:
 
  Ohhh...and here I thought it was the print version of Star Trek: The 
  Wrath of Khan, but you guys were talking about Maharishi vs. Ricardo 
  Montalban. OK, starting to make sense now...
  
  --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, RoryGoff rorygoff@ wrote:
  
   Hi, and welcome It was Robes of Silk, Feet of Clay, by Judith 
   Bourque. Have you read it?
   
   --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, mssonni1 msfrtune13@ wrote:
   
Hi, I just joined the group.  Could you tell me what book/author you're 
discussing?

Thanks,

K
   
  
 





[FairfieldLife] Post Count

2011-07-08 Thread FFL PostCount
Fairfield Life Post Counter
===
Start Date (UTC): Sat Jul 02 00:00:00 2011
End Date (UTC): Sat Jul 09 00:00:00 2011
644 messages as of (UTC) Fri Jul 08 22:47:44 2011

50 authfriend jst...@panix.com
47 RoryGoff roryg...@hotmail.com
43 turquoiseb no_re...@yahoogroups.com
37 whynotnow7 whynotn...@yahoo.com
31 Yifu yifux...@yahoo.com
29 richardjwilliamstexas willy...@yahoo.com
27 nablusoss1008 no_re...@yahoogroups.com
26 sparaig lengli...@cox.net
25 seventhray1 steve.sun...@sbcglobal.net
25 Vaj vajradh...@earthlink.net
25 Rick Archer r...@searchsummit.com
24 Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net
20 curtisdeltablues curtisdeltabl...@yahoo.com
17 Ravi Yogi raviy...@att.net
16 raunchydog raunchy...@yahoo.com
16 Xenophaneros Anartaxius anartax...@yahoo.com
16 Bob Price bobpri...@yahoo.com
15 danfriedman2002 danfriedman2...@yahoo.com
14 cardemaister no_re...@yahoogroups.com
14 do.rflex do.rf...@yahoo.com
12 wgm4u wg...@yahoo.com
11 Robert babajii...@yahoo.com
10 Tom Pall thomas.p...@gmail.com
 9 emptybill emptyb...@yahoo.com
 8 PaliGap compost...@yahoo.co.uk
 8 John jr_...@yahoo.com
 7 Mike Dixon mdixon.6...@yahoo.com
 7 Denise Evans dmevans...@yahoo.com
 7 Buck dhamiltony...@yahoo.com
 6 tartbrain no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 6 maskedzebra no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 4 wayback71 waybac...@yahoo.com
 4 mainstream20016 mainstream20...@yahoo.com
 4 feste37 fest...@yahoo.com
 3 mssonni1 msfrtun...@msn.com
 3 merlin vedamer...@yahoo.de
 3 wle...@aol.com
 3 Sal Sunshine salsunsh...@lisco.com
 3 Dick Mays dickm...@lisco.com
 3 Alex Stanley j_alexander_stan...@yahoo.com
 2 Duveyoung no_re...@yahoogroups.com
 1 seekliberation seekliberat...@yahoo.com
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[FairfieldLife] Re: Notice of Infringement

2011-07-08 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Alex Stanley j_alexander_stanley@... 
wrote:
 
 --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer rick@ wrote:
 
  If you want to see which post this was, do a Google search for
  Here is the proof- Message to Governors from Bevan (quotes
  included) and look at the cached copy while it still exists. From
  now on, everyone should refrain from posting any copyright TMO
  material. Alex or I will promptly delete any such material if
  posted.
 
 Is that really necessary? Dick Mays has been posting TMO
 community announcement stuff for years, and it's never been
 a problem. My inclination would be to just keep things as
 they are, and if there's something the TMO doesn't want in
 the archives, they'll contact Yahoo and have it removed.

Did you read this paragraph?

As you know, Yahoo! may terminate any and/or all services and accounts without 
notice. Without waiving or limiting any rights or remedies Yahoo! has or may 
have, you are hereby advised that our receipt of another notification alleging 
the unauthorized posting by you of another party's intellectual property in 
connection with any Yahoo! service may result in not only the suspension of all 
Yahoo! Groups for which you are the designated owner, but the termination of 
all of your Yahoo! services as well as the deactivation of your Yahoo! ID.

Sounds like once you get on Yahoo's sh*t list, it's two
strikes and you're out.

Which may mean that we shouldn't be posting *anything*
that's copyrighted, including articles from newspapers.




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