Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-27 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I am sorry, but the removal of TM from the mysticism and traditions of the 
past, is a GOOD thing. I agree that having more knowledgeable teachers would be 
helpful, though to say that the goals of humanity cannot be achieved solely 
with TM is completely false, an ego trip that has evolved from TM's simplicity. 
Some people are just never happy. :-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know.  You 
should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses."  For that 
shanti mantras are generally given.  And as you know Maharishi originally just 
gave a shanti mantra.  Also in real systems instead of parrots you train people 
to be actual meditation teachers who give the mantra along with shaktipat.  
However Maharishi did not have the credentials to make those kind of teachers.
 
 On 09/26/2015 10:06 AM, emptybill@... mailto:emptybill@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
 
   Bari2 opines:
 
 And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned 
elsewhere.
 
 So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?
 

 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Well Pundit Bill, you're an expert on the Vedas so you should know.  You 
should also then know that TM is just "a meditation for the masses."  
For that shanti mantras are generally given.  And as you know Maharishi 
originally just gave a shanti mantra.  Also in real systems instead of 
parrots you train people to be actual meditation teachers who give the 
mantra along with shaktipat.  However Maharishi did not have the 
credentials to make those kind of teachers.


On 09/26/2015 10:06 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned 
elsewhere.


So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread emptyb...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Bari2 opines:

And TM really is "yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.

So exactly what is "that" which is the "Sun" to TM's "mere" shadow?


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, Thanks for sharing your ideas. I am not really a big reader, nor do I have 
any association with the TM organization, so I am not the one to evaluate your 
writing further, or make a proposition to the TMers. That said, I wish you all 
the best with your pursuits. No doubt you have learned a great deal about 
yourself while writing the book. 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
 

 I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful 
other people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I 
have another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising 
campaign on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on 
advertising.
 I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate 
to the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had 
wished would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with 
a bit of passion in writing.
 

 There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't 
checked out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could 
send the book for free to others who view this option on your blog.
 That may get you into trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work 
through the leaders of the TM org.
 That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would pass 
judgement.
 

 It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a 
participant of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 

 There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

 

 Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effort
 thanks...let me know what you decide
 

 Dave Ryan

 


 

 
 
 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come 
to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations 
rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.
 If TM were a n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
I've been saying this for years here on FFL.  In the 1970s, people's 
lifestyles allowed for nightly meetings and the 7 step teaching method.  
TM seems to be stuck in the 1970s while other schools of meditation will 
offer weekend courses much more accessible to people current 
lifestyles.  They are also not priced out of reason.  And TM really is 
"yoga lite" and a mere shadow of what can be learned elsewhere.  Back in 
the 70s this was all too new to the general public and a giggling guru 
quite a novelty.


On 09/26/2015 05:01 AM, Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:
I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has 
evolved to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: 
for 50 plus years TM has been associated with a meditation created 
from India. Most all people in the western world perceives this 
knowledge as outside their world.*Subsciously,* most westerners see TM 
and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, a foreign 
design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western 
thinking. The great minds of western science, art,... all western 
discipline may incorporate this knowledge of life, (conceived in 
India) into a construct of western thought.
 TM *today*, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is 
still**thought to be an Eastern construct with some, scientific 
validation. And because of this perception, millions of people will 
still resist this meditation because of its association to Eastern 
thought.
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as 
something*one needs* for betterment of self. People buy this product 
because of its projective value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. 
Subsciously, most everybody, views TM outside their comfort circle.
There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or 
flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the ! steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over 
generations. The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach 
beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations rely on impacting 
larger percentages for survival.

If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
$250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys.
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL 
LONG TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, 
BEGIN TO START TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS 
ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of 
stress, out of control and at the same time we may now begin speaking 
about greater genius, greater creativity, and greater goodness in the 
light of science.
*Envy or jealously *may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over 
the edge, into desiring more than what they have. When the masses 
begin to see results manifest in other people who do TM, they will 
wake to the realization; this is my knowledge, not India's.
It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. 
Start the process, it will unfold over time.


Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which 
protected and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of 
this teaching should be protected and maintained behind closed doors. 
Emphasis should be placed upon western thought.  As this knowledge 
spreads over time, if it is successful, than Western man will re 
package this technique in the light of their language. Only then will 
the masses take hold! to the degree, it should.


I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not 
attached to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for 
contemplation. Focus on the reach, not the weakness of each word or 
phrase. What I write is not truth, but relative impressions of the 
moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes nothing. Do better than I; I 
am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. Even I, as dull as 
I am, can see imperfection.

Dave Ryan




On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. 
Even Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's 
evolution. There is no need for 99% or more of the population to 
meditate. It is all about creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish 
more".


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a 
gateway to God, they would stand in line to learn it."


This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my 
point made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.
What I said was...People would line up at age 10 to receive their key 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Thanks for your replys, apparantely it's just between you and I. Yes I am just 
throwing it out for people to chew on; I see more people are referring toTM as 
a step to enlightenment. It takes time; generations, I believe, for a concept 
to take hold. Maybe quicker with TM.
I do appreciate your allowing me to chat a bit on the blog. I was hopeful other 
people would read the book and comment a bit, but thats not hapenning. I have 
another proposal for you ...I was planning to go with some advertising campaign 
on some of the social platforms. Spend a couple hundred dollars on advertising. 
I had the idea, why not spend the money on gifting to People that can relate to 
the experience of transcending. This book writing was a project, I had wished 
would provide me with some comment and feedback... to fill my days with a bit 
of passion in writing.
There is an option on amazon to gift books to others on line. I haven't checked 
out the details of how to do so, but I am sure there is a way I could send the 
book for free to others who view this option on your blog.That may get you into 
trouble, with the guidelines, not filtering all work through the leaders of the 
TM org.That would be your call, you could read it and then decide if it would 
pass judgement.
It makes no sence for me to continue on this site, since I am not a participant 
of the community. My interest: feedback on the book. 
There are a few serious negative blog sites out there bashing the TM movement. 
I am an expression of what Maharishi wished for...an individual, regularily 
practicing TM, in the light of one's discipline. This is an art book, poetic, 
visually stimulating transcendental art; a subjective experience of meditating 
artist in activity: a positive fresh approach to understanding the one's value, 
and benefit of this meditation. 

Unless u have another suggestion, I will move on, but I do appreciate the 
effortthanks...let me know what you decide
Dave Ryan



 


 On Saturday, September 26, 2015 7:23 AM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People 
come to TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 
'green cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world 
has some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I appreciate your concern, though I do not see it as a problem. People come to 
TM or not, according to their awareness and need. It could be called 'green 
cheese' for some and they would still start the practice. Sure the world has 
some stress, though I for one feel that things are headed in the right 
direction. TM will always be around.Yes, the David Lynch Foundation is further 
integrating TM with Western thought. Thanks for sharing more about this book, 
and your thinking. I have no need to pick apart what you are saying, or 
belittle you, though I see what you are proposing as a natural process that we 
can engage with or not, according to our personal desires. The "world" will be 
fine, either way.:-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved 
to: readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years 
TM has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 

  TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 

 When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.
 There is a major shift, again with TM under the watch of David Lynch 
Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will subside or flatten to a 
degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... These are the steps of 
progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. The 1% rule is limiting 
our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  Why not? Corporations 
rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.
 If TM were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.
 $250 dollars for a nike shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 

 MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG 
TERM TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 

 Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.
 It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, resulting from TM. Start the 
process, it will unfold over time. 

 

 Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
 

 I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.
 Dave Ryan

 

 

 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going 
to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi 
focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no 
need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about creating a 
catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
 

 This is Dave Rya

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-26 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
I wouldn't call it a mistake so much as a situation, where time has evolved to: 
readdress the issue on a major level. The issue is this: for 50 plus years TM 
has been associated with a meditation created from India. Most all people in 
the western world perceives this knowledge as outside their world. Subsciously, 
most westerners see TM and all that it is: an unnecessary component of living, 
a foreign design. After SRM days, Maharishi's wish was... that western science 
incorporate the science of creative intelligence into western thinking. The 
great minds of western science, art,... all western discipline may incorporate 
this knowledge of life, (conceived in India) into a construct of western 
thought. 
 TM today, by most people outside of progressive thinking, is still thought to 
be an Eastern construct with some, scientific validation. And because of this 
perception, millions of people will still resist this meditation because of its 
association to Eastern thought. 
When corporations create product, they advertise it's value as something one 
needs for betterment of self. People buy this product because of its projective 
value. Everybody wants it, subconsciously. Subsciously, most everybody, views 
TM outside their comfort circle.There is a major shift, again with TM under the 
watch of David Lynch Foundation...a needed boost of attention. This too will 
subside or flatten to a degree over time. Hopefully it will continue growing... 
These are the steps of progress, the way knowledge unfolds over generations. 
The 1% rule is limiting our reach, we want to reach beyond our expectations.  
Why not? Corporations rely on impacting larger percentages for survival.If TM 
were a nike shoe, the world would be enlightened.$250 dollars for a nike 
shoe...are u kidding. Learn from the big boys. 
MY BOOK: A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI... IS A CALL TO ALL LONG TERM 
TM'ERS ...STEP UP TO THE PLATE, START WRITING YOUR BOOKS, BEGIN TO START 
TELLING THE WORLD, OVER AND OVER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS ABOUT MORE THAN JUST STRESS 
REDUCTION. Yes the world is a pile of stress, out of control and at the same 
time we may now begin speaking about greater genius, greater creativity, and 
greater goodness in the light of science. 
Envy or jealously may be the catalyst, which pushes the masses over the edge, 
into desiring more than what they have. When the masses begin to see results 
manifest in other people who do TM, they will wake to the realization; this is 
my knowledge, not India's.It's not an easy task to explain greater genius, 
resulting from TM. Start the process, it will unfold over time. 

Certaintly, all will give thanks to the tradition of masters which protected 
and passed on, this knowledge of life. The tradition's of this teaching should 
be protected and maintained behind closed doors. Emphasis should be placed upon 
western thought.  As this knowledge spreads over time, if it is successful, 
than Western man will re package this technique in the light of their language. 
Only then will the masses take hold to the degree, it should.
I understand people on blogs love to pick apart, said logic. I am not attached 
to these thoughts. I am just putting them out there for contemplation. Focus on 
the reach, not the weakness of each word or phrase. What I write is not truth, 
but relative impressions of the moment. Calling me an idiot, accomplishes 
nothing. Do better than I; I am at the bottom of such a measure, called genius. 
Even I, as dull as I am, can see imperfection.Dave Ryan
 
 


 On Friday, September 25, 2015 9:52 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't 
going to meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even 
Maharishi focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There 
is no need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about 
creating a catalyst. "do less and accomplish more".
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People 
would line up at age 10to receivetheir key to unlock their God givenpotential 
as humanbeings.You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would 
require work, as you suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:
 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"There in lies the problem... people outside 
of the TM movement, view us as part of a group who think a certain way. This is 
normal thinking, groups think as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature 
removes it's thinking away from the whole. Others outside of the group are not 
included. We all unconsciously isol

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-25 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Why do you think it is a mistake in the TM message? Some people aren't going to 
meditate, period, whether they understand its intent, or not. Even Maharishi 
focused on very small groups to continue the world's evolution. There is no 
need for 99% or more of the population to meditate. It is all about creating a 
catalyst. "do less and accomplish more". 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 "The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
 

 This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.
 What I said was...People would line up at age 10 to receive their key to 
unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would require work, as you 
suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:

 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"
 There in lies the problem... people outside of the TM movement, view us as 
part of a group who think a certain way. This is normal thinking, groups think 
as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature removes it's thinking away 
from the whole. Others outside of the group are not included. We all 
unconsciously isolate each other's position by definition of who or what we 
claim to be. 

 Belief or identification of self, sets us apart from each other. Groups draw 
and groups alienate, by their nature.
 

 So... people view TM as something outside of their own world, thats how they 
think, TM people think a certain way and thats ok for them.

 What the TM movement has failed to do: is communicate to the world what TM 
really is. 

 The TM group should have said, I'm sorry, I'm your new neighbor, I found this 
key on the street next to your driveway, is this your key? Of course they would 
be delighted and excited to get their key back, they didn't have a spare key to 
drive their vehicle, now locked in garage. 

 I am glad you have your key back and I am happy to have found it for you. You 
must be excited, oh yes, that key opens my world to all that I am. enjoy...done
 When the movement speaks of TM, there is a personna of ownership...we're 
giving u this technique and these are the conditions. twice a day, only from 
us. 

 Once a person begins TM, then they know this knowledge is their's...it's what 
they have always wanted. A key to fulfillment. Prior to that, people think this 
knowledge of TM is outside of themselves...which it's not!!! TM and all that it 
represents, is the people's knowledge, it's not owned by the TM org. The TM 
people just found the owner's key, next to their driveway.
 

 This awareness of ownership, is not known by the masses. If they knew what TM 
was, they would tear down the doors to get back their possessions.
 

 

 

 
 


 On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:46 PM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it 
is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, they may 
want to throw you out of the dome for that but other gurus will actually have 
you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams.  I think the restrictions were to 
keep the money flow tight.  And of course the guilt aspect of you won't be 
supporting world peace if you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  
That's a variation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."
 
 
 On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mai

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
"The fellow who wrote it mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to 
God, they would stand in line to learn it."
This is Dave Ryan, I started this thread...Allow me to clarify my point 
made in reference to the statement of my earlier post.What I said was...People 
would line up at age 10to receivetheir key to unlock their God givenpotential 
as humanbeings.You may suggest TM is a gateway to God but doing so would 
require work, as you suggested, I agree with your theory. You said:
 "I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending"There in lies the problem... people outside 
of the TM movement, view us as part of a group who think a certain way. This is 
normal thinking, groups think as groups do. In a sense, a group, by it's nature 
removes it's thinking away from the whole. Others outside of the group are not 
included. We all unconsciously isolate each other's position by definition of 
who or what we claim to be. 
Belief or identification of self, sets us apart from each other. Groups draw 
and groups alienate, by their nature.
So... people view TM as something outside of their own world, thats how they 
think, TM people think a certain way and thats ok for them.
What the TM movement has failed to do: is communicate to the world what TM 
really is. 
The TM group should have said, I'm sorry, I'm your new neighbor, I found this 
key on the street next to your driveway, is this your key? Of course they would 
be delighted and excited to get their key back, they didn't have a spare key to 
drive their vehicle, now locked in garage. 
I am glad you have your key back and I am happy to have found it for you. You 
must be excited, oh yes, that key opens my world to all that I am. 
enjoy...doneWhen the movement speaks of TM, there is a personna of 
ownership...we're giving u this technique and these are the conditions. twice a 
day, only from us. 
Once a person begins TM, then they know this knowledge is their's...it's what 
they have always wanted. A key to fulfillment. Prior to that, people think this 
knowledge of TM is outside of themselves...which it's not!!! TM and all that it 
represents, is the people's knowledge, it's not owned by the TM org. The TM 
people just found the owner's key, next to their driveway.
This awareness of ownership, is not known by the masses. If they knew what TM 
was, they would tear down the doors to get back their possessions.


 


 On Wednesday, September 23, 2015 6:46 PM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:
   

     Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because 
it is mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

Not all disciplines emphasizepracticing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using itas needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it'snarrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, theymay want 
to throw you out of the dome for that but other guruswill actually have you 
visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams. I think the restrictions were to keep 
the money flow tight.  Andof course the guilt aspect of you won't be supporting 
world peaceif you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  That's 
avariation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."


On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]wrote:


  Those could be useful adjustments, though you still havethe basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day-- If TM can be considered a technology, we 
are used tohaving our tech delivered with no downside, except cost.TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration,expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, thework, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits -like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Somepeople don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it isan intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefitscan be tricky, at best.
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, wrote :

Therewas a report on FFL about anIndian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered toteach correctmeditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun"and 
therewere better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation. I've beensaying this 
for years as the TM technique is prettymuch for pittaor rajasic types.  That 
might mean if you're a bitkapha TM mightbe fattening.  Some of  the Indian 
gurus will observea person forseveral days and give a mantra appropriate for 
theirtype.

On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@...[Fair

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Oh yeah, there are lots of meditations - I used TM as an example because it is 
mentioned in the book that began this discussion. The fellow who wrote it 
mentioned that if everyone knew TM was a gateway to God, they would stand in 
line to learn it. I am interested in exploring the reasons that may not happen. 
I think a lot of the resistance to it comes from this requirement for 
mechanical and regular transcending, and subsequent integration - It can make 
life uncomfortable for awhile, dealing with whatever it uncovers. That's my 
theory, so far.  
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some just 
emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow of TM and 
it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I know, they may 
want to throw you out of the dome for that but other gurus will actually have 
you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams.  I think the restrictions were to 
keep the money flow tight.  And of course the guilt aspect of you won't be 
supporting world peace if you don't at least meditate or fly twice a day.  
That's a variation on the old "Master Game" called "sin."
 
 
 On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:noozguru@... wrote :
 
 There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun" 
and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation.  I've been 
saying this for years as the TM technique is pretty much for pitta or rajasic 
types.  That might mean if you're a bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  
the Indian gurus will observe a person for several days and give a mantra 
appropriate for their type.
 
 On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality. 
 

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:ryandave177@... wrote :
 
 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
  A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS
 
 #1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing 
it, as I witnessed what I wrote. 
 I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
  
 In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
  In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.
 
 So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the veh! icle. Who 
owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
 If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 
 This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue t

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
Not all disciplines emphasize practicing meditation twice a day.  Some 
just emphasize using it as needed.  It's good to step out of the shadow 
of TM and it's narrow definitions and find out what other paths do.  I 
know, they may want to throw you out of the dome for that but other 
gurus will actually have you visit saints, temples, gurus and ashrams. I 
think the restrictions were to keep the money flow tight.  And of course 
the guilt aspect of you won't be supporting world peace if you don't at 
least meditate or fly twice a day.  That's a variation on the old 
"Master Game" called "sin."



On 09/23/2015 04:21 PM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic 
"problem" with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be 
considered a technology, we are used to having our tech delivered with 
no downside, except cost. TM represents the benefits of tech; 
acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the integration of it all, 
the work, must still get done, to ensure continued benefits - like 
building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't want to 
do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited 
and offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was 
too "shotgun" and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach 
meditation. I've been saying this for years as the TM technique is 
pretty much for pitta or rajasic types.  That might mean if you're a 
bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  the Indian gurus will 
observe a person for several days and give a mantra appropriate for 
their type.


On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@...  
[FairfieldLife] wrote:



That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical
means to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that
it can work as described. It is basically a tool for us to get
out of the dullness you mentioned, and get things moving again -
we are at our core, transcendental beings and might as well get
on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great messenger, responding
to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that he did,
though I have no need to revere him as a personality.


As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who
learned in the past have now set it aside. The intellectual case
could be made certainly that it is a benefit for everyone, but
each of us makes up our minds differently, and we are often drawn
to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition to a well
reasoned approach.

Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is
enough, imo, and that is now well established globally.

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
, 
 wrote :

You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY,
BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I
finished writing it, as I witnessed what I wrote.
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.

In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies
within: your potential, unrealized intelligence and joy.
Maharishi provided us with a key to unlock the pathway to what we
already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this
knowledge of life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is
given, from Maharishi. Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the
key to turn on the veh! icle. Who owns the vehicle?...we all do.
Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are remembering and
tapping into what we already possess.
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah,
not interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up
at age 10 to receive their key to unlock their God given
potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life.
Thank God, Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the
work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant,
brilliance of mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my
subjective experience: as dull as I am, I am genius in moments as
it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one
realizes, I am more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder.
Starting with chapter 3: realizing that habits and conditions of
mind, filter out, our love of life. Meditation is a

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Those could be useful adjustments, though you still have the basic "problem" 
with TM, of transcending twice a day -- If TM can be considered a technology, 
we are used to having our tech delivered with no downside, except cost. TM 
represents the benefits of tech; acceleration, expansion, ease, etc., but the 
integration of it all, the work, must still get done, to ensure continued 
benefits - like building our own TV, instead of buying one. Some people don't 
want to do all the work. Also, because it is an intra-personal technology, 
demonstrating the benefits can be tricky, at best. 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited and 
offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too "shotgun" 
and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach meditation.  I've been 
saying this for years as the TM technique is pretty much for pitta or rajasic 
types.  That might mean if you're a bit kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  
the Indian gurus will observe a person for several days and give a mantra 
appropriate for their type.
 
 On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesedwuz@... mailto:olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife] 
wrote:

   That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality. 
 

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
 ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, 
 mailto:ryandave177@... wrote :
 
 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
  A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS
 
 #1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing 
it, as I witnessed what I wrote. 
 I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
  
 In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
  In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.
 
 So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the veh! icle. Who 
owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
 If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.
 
 This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.
 
 #2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
 Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.
 
 #3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting 
with chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our 
love of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.



 
 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Bhairitu noozg...@sbcglobal.net [FairfieldLife]
There was a report on FFL about an Indian ayurvedic doctor who visited 
and offered to teach correct meditation.  He maintained that TM was too 
"shotgun" and there were better ways using ayurveda to teach 
meditation.  I've been saying this for years as the TM technique is 
pretty much for pitta or rajasic types.  That might mean if you're a bit 
kapha TM might be fattening.  Some of  the Indian gurus will observe a 
person for several days and give a mantra appropriate for their type.


On 09/23/2015 10:43 AM, olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife] wrote:


That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means 
to liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work 
as described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness 
you mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, 
transcendental beings and might as well get on with it. I also see 
Maharishi as a great messenger, responding to the need of the times, 
to bring out the knowledge that he did, though I have no need to 
revere him as a personality.



As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who 
learned in the past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could 
be made certainly that it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us 
makes up our minds differently, and we are often drawn to spiritual 
practices for karmic reasons, in addition to a well reasoned approach.


Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is 
enough, imo, and that is now well established globally.


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S 
A MESS


#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished 
writing it, as I witnessed what I wrote.

I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.

In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies 
within: your potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi 
provided us with a key to unlock the pathway to what we already own: 
our birthright.


So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this 
knowledge of life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is 
given, from Maharishi. Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key 
to turn on the veh! icle. Who owns the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge 
is structured in consciousness, we are remembering and tapping into 
what we already possess.
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 
to receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.


This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank 
God, Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.


#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, 
brilliance of mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my 
subjective experience: as dull as I am, I am genius in moments as it 
comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, 
I am more than what I thought, was capable.


#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. 
Starting with chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of 
mind, filter out, our love of life. Meditation is a tool for a 
freshening sense.






Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
That covers a lot of ground.:-)  I agree that TM is a mechanical means to 
liberation, through the knowledge of the Veda, and that it can work as 
described. It is basically a tool for us to get out of the dullness you 
mentioned, and get things moving again - we are at our core, transcendental 
beings and might as well get on with it. I also see Maharishi as a great 
messenger, responding to the need of the times, to bring out the knowledge that 
he did, though I have no need to revere him as a personality.  

 As for TM being for everyone, it doesn't appear to be. Many who learned in the 
past have now set it aside. The intellectual case could be made certainly that 
it is a benefit for everyone, but each of us makes up our minds differently, 
and we are often drawn to spiritual practices for karmic reasons, in addition 
to a well reasoned approach. 
 

 Simply having the opportunity to find a teacher and learn TM is enough, imo, 
and that is now well established globally. 
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing it, 
as I witnessed what I wrote. 
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
 
In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the vehicle. Who owns 
the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting with 
chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our love 
of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
You asked: what are the 3 most important ideas in my book:
 A PIRATE'S CALL TO MAHARISHI MAHESH YOGI; GENIUS IS EASY, BEHAVIOR'S A MESS

#1. The most important idea to me in my book came, after I finished writing it, 
as I witnessed what I wrote. 
I am still learning what I wrote, as I read it again and again.
 
In chapter 5, titled: MAHARISHI'S GIFT.
 In so many words, Maharishi had one job...to inform, there lies within: your 
potential, unrealized intelligence and joy. Maharishi provided us with a key to 
unlock the pathway to what we already own: our birthright.

So many people in the world believe or unconsciously assume this knowledge of 
life, the vedas, the meditation process, all this is given, from Maharishi. 
Yes... Maharishi has provided us with the key to turn on the vehicle. Who owns 
the vehicle?...we all do. Knowledge is structured in consciousness, we are 
remembering and tapping into what we already possess. 
If people really understood this reality, they wouldn't say, nah, not 
interested, meditation is not my style. People would line up at age 10 to 
receive their key to unlock their God given potential as human beings.

This is not Maharishi's knowledge, it is the knowledge of life. Thank God, 
Maharishi has enough patience and heart to pursue the work.

#2. That genius seeps through cracks of dullness. In an instant, brilliance of 
mind may surface an idiot of sorts. That is my subjective experience: as dull 
as I am, I am genius in moments as it comes without effort.
Not a lifetime of meditation, an instant, it arrives and one realizes, I am 
more than what I thought, was capable.

#3. That we drag old thought through fresh fields of lost wonder. Starting with 
chapter 3:  realizing that habits and conditions of mind, filter out, our love 
of life. Meditation is a tool for a freshening sense.

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
HI, thanks for your info. I was curious where your comment came from. I don't 
live in Fairfield, nor do I shop much in the spiritual supermarket. I am always 
interested in how any of us puts our found spiritual gifts into practice. If I 
may take the lazy person's way out, what do you consider the three most 
important ideas in your book? 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 thanks for your reply,
 my comment on one pointedness... I have noticed many people around the world 
who teach and recommend disciplines of health, including meditation practice: 
don't actually regularily practice their recommended disciplines in daily 
living.
 Many play the part (seminaring themselves to death, thinking ...they are 
growing); wearing the cloth of perceived value. 

 

 When I was 19 years of age, before even starting TM or any kind of healthy 
thinking beyond high school, I made a personal decision: challenged myself to 
live a righteous lifestyle. To me that meant, being a good person in living, no 
matter what I become in life.
 Even the best people on the planet , are f... ups: I thought, now that's a 
tough goal. My mind was set, in that personal moment, one afternoon. To this 
day, I have followed that "good person" principle in all relationships. I've 
screwed up and made mistakes, but never have I faultered from the intention of 
good behavior. At work, in marriage, with strangers..the principle stands, 
unshakeable in all situations. 

 

 Simply put...that is my one pointed-ness in living. It requires integrity, 
honestly, and acceptance of others as is. 

 People talk a good game of living: few practice it on a daily basis. 

 What's it done for me? Nothing more than, I am proud of my choices and who 
I've become. Far from perfect: my intention is great.
 

 I enjoy this kind of back and forth, it fills a passion and keeps my mind 
thinking...thanks for that...

 Not sure what goes from here? I was hopeful some would read my book and I 
could have that give and take. I could care less about  selling the book for 
profit, but I have to charge enough to break even. If no one wants to buy it, I 
will eventually put it out for free on free book sites, I guess. You are in the 
middle of TM land...my book fits, a gift of sort for those who transcend. If I 
wanted money I would have wrote about sex, romance and violence. 

 

 I'm an expat, near the jungle on the border of Thailand and Mirimar, a bit 
crazy to do so, but not as crazy as living in Fairfield...no?

 

 Dave Ryan

 

 

 

 

 

 
 
 


 On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:00 AM, "olliesedwuz@... [FairfieldLife]" 
 wrote:
 
 

   Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious 
about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than 
most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-)
 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUP
 My name is Dave Ryan, I have been practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: 
(govenor on 1976 flying course).
 Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying course; 
finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 

 MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.
 Created: Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private 
settings.
 

 Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.
 I currently live, travel and volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living 
a simple life.

 

 My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a 
sense, without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). 
The audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
 

 I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

 

 I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I.
 I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for free under KDP 
Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and they may 
connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the comment, 
the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on my 
end...if that makes sense to you.

 

 It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.
   I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM org. to write or 
publish this book. Reason being, the book is n

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-23 Thread Dave Ryan ryandave...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
thanks for your reply,my comment on one pointedness... I have noticed many 
people around the world who teach and recommend disciplines of health, 
including meditation practice: don't actually regularily practice their 
recommended disciplines in daily living.Many play the part (seminaring 
themselves to death, thinking ...they are growing); wearing the cloth of 
perceived value.


When I was 19 years of age, before even starting TM or any kind of healthy 
thinking beyond high school, I made a personal decision: challenged myself to 
live a righteous lifestyle. To me that meant, being a good person in living, no 
matter what I become in life. Even the best people on the planet , are f... 
ups: I thought, now that's a tough goal. My mind was set, in that personal 
moment, one afternoon. To this day, I have followed that "good person" 
principle in all relationships. I've screwed up and made mistakes, but never 
have I faultered from the intention of good behavior. At work, in marriage, 
with strangers..the principle stands, unshakeable in all situations.


Simply put...that is my one pointed-ness in living. It requires integrity, 
honestly, and acceptance of others as is.
People talk a good game of living: few practice it on a daily basis.
What's it done for me? Nothing more than, I am proud of my choices and who I've 
become. Far from perfect: my intention is great.
I enjoy this kind of back and forth, it fills a passion and keeps my mind 
thinking...thanks for that...
Not sure what goes from here? I was hopeful some would read my book and I could 
have that give and take. I could care less about  selling the book for profit, 
but I have to charge enough to break even. If no one wants to buy it, I will 
eventually put it out for free on free book sites, I guess. You are in the 
middle of TM land...my book fits, a gift of sort for those who transcend. If I 
wanted money I would have wrote about sex, romance and violence.


I'm an expat, near the jungle on the border of Thailand and Mirimar, a bit 
crazy to do so, but not as crazy as living in Fairfield...no?


Dave Ryan















 On Tuesday, September 22, 2015 6:00 AM, "olliesed...@yahoo.com 
[FairfieldLife]"  wrote:



     Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am 
curious about your statement below that you are more one pointed and 
disciplined than most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? 
:-)
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :


Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUPMy name is Dave Ryan, I have been 
practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: (govenor on 1976 flying 
course).Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying 
course; finished with a BIDS degree at MIU.
MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.Created: 
Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private settings.
Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.I currently live, travel and 
volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living a simple life.


My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a sense, 
without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). The 
audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.

I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most.


I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I. I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for 
free under KDP Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and 
they may connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the 
comment, the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on 
my end...if that makes sense to you.
It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.  I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM 
org. to write or publish this book. Reason being, the book is not about TM, it 
is a subjective experience, a work of effortless discovery of clarity in 
thinking. Book addresses my subjective experience of connection to cosmos; man, 
woman and nature. Subjective experience comes as word. The book addresses 
politics, capitalism, human behavior and perception. 75 % of book is prose and 
verse leading, logic of mind. Over 150 images of my art, reflecting the themes 
of each verse.
So here is a link to my book if u

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member has proposal for Fairfield Group

2015-09-22 Thread olliesed...@yahoo.com [FairfieldLife]
Hi, and Welcome - I read the available excerpts of your book - I am curious 
about your statement below that you are more one pointed and disciplined than 
most. In what domain, and what has that done for you lately? :-) 
---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote :

 Thank you for invitation to FAIRFIELD GROUP
 My name is Dave Ryan, I have been practicing TM since 1972; Sidhi program: 
(govenor on 1976 flying course).
 Graduate of MIU: Santa Barbara, Calif...73-77...Fairfield to flying course; 
finished with a BIDS degree at MIU. 

 MS:Health Education, Univ of Colorado/UCLA, post graduate work, 78, 79.
 Created: Ryan's Brush Inc. 1984...Art creation in commercial and private 
settings.
 

 Retired from working America, 2009, at age 57.
 I currently live, travel and volunteer my services in South East Asia. Living 
a simple life.

 

 My reason for joining your group is simple: A book came through me: in a 
sense, without permission of self. Meaning it flowed from within (not unusual). 
The audience it was meant for: myself and people who are familiar with and 
experience finer levels of thought during Transcendental Meditation.
 

 I live, off the beaten path, in simple settings, by choice. I am not really 
connected to western civilization, except for this sharing: a bit of connection 
and feedback. I am more one pointed and disciplined, than most. 

 

 I wrote this book, plopped it on amazon KDP select program and as expected it 
sits with few takers. Out of respect, I am not using trademarked words of TM 
movement, thus my generic keywords are not tapping into people who transcend on 
a regular basis as I.
 I priced the book so most can afford and gave it away for free under KDP 
Select 5 day promotion. I had hope a TM'er would pick it up and they may 
connect to my blog for back and forth comment. The more negative the comment, 
the better as it shapes or challenges more projection of love, on my 
end...if that makes sense to you.

 

 It would certaintly enrich my life to share and challenge thought with those 
who experience greater awareness in thought. I am outside the box, a rebel of 
sort, and I am most certaintly respectful of Maharishi's wishes and 
expectations of us all.
   I did not ask permission or grace from within the TM org. to write or 
publish this book. Reason being, the book is not about TM, it is a subjective 
experience, a work of effortless discovery of clarity in thinking. Book 
addresses my subjective experience of connection to cosmos; man, woman and 
nature. Subjective experience comes as word. The book addresses politics, 
capitalism, human behavior and perception. 75 % of book is prose and verse 
leading, logic of mind. Over 150 images of my art, reflecting the themes of 
each verse.
 

 So here is a link to my book if u are curious..look inside the book of 463 
pages..u can pull up 10% for free to read.
 If u like the book's potential for discussion and enjoyment, I'll gift u a 
copy if you'll read it. You can tear it apart or not, just let me know if this 
book would be a benefit to this site. If not please let me know as well...book 
link below with reviews

 thanks 

 Dave Ryan
 

 
http://www.amazon.com/PIRATES-CALL-MAHARISHI-MAHESH-YOGI-ebook/dp/B0140UAU1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442278180&sr=1-1&keywords=a+pirates+call
 
http://www.amazon.com/PIRATES-CALL-MAHARISHI-MAHESH-YOGI-ebook/dp/B0140UAU1O/ref=sr_1_1?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1442278180&sr=1-1&keywords=a+pirates+call


 

  

   

 

 

 












Re: : [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-28 Thread Sanyam Shrivastava
Hello Michael,

Third eye meditation is a practice, in which you focus all your concentration 
at a single point. 




There is a particular hand posture, that you keep, while you do the meditation. 


Practiced overtime, this can let you drench deep into the higher Astral realms.
P.S. Third eye's concept has basically been derived from Lord Shankar (The 
third of Trimurthy) in Hinduism. It's said, that third eye is the root to 
excessive power, and sixth sense.

Regards,

Sanyam Shrivastava

Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread Michael Jackson
Not an everyday occurrence in Bhopal:

Bhopal: Bride gives birth to child right during her wedding ceremony
Shahroz Afridi, Hindustan Times  Bhopal, February 22, 2014 

When a bride gave birth to a child right during her wedding ceremony, the kin 
of both the bride and groom as well as community members decided to cancel the 
marriage and wind up the ceremony.

However, the groom decided to go ahead with the ceremony and took home not only 
the bride, but also the newborn baby. The incident unfolded on Friday in the 
tribal-dominated Dindori district, 466 km east from state capital Bhopal. The 
bride, Damayanti Bai (name changed), went into labour pain during the 'phere' 
ceremony and delivered a baby right at the venue.

All the guests and relatives present at scene were shocked and most of them 
tried to persuade the groom Man Singh Dhurve to walk-off the marriage. But to 
everybody's surprise Man Singh said he could not leave the bride in such a 
situation and continued with the marriage rites with the baby in his arms.

The relatives were forced to rethink on their decision to not participate in 
the 'tainted' ceremony after Man Singh requested them to stay back. Elders of 
the community even warned the groom saying that he would be penalised if he 
married the woman. But an unyielding Man Singh said he was ready to pay the 
penalty as decided by the community panchayat and the marriage was performed.

"The day I was engaged to her, I had promised to support her throughout life," 
said Man Singh. He said that he was happy with his decision that saved two 
families from being humiliated.

The groom's father too appreciating his son's act said he was ready to pay the 
penalty if the panchayat members say so.

Chhotelal Dhurve, uncle of the groom, said that initially he had thought of 
shunning the marriage but the groom's insistence forced him to think again. 
"Now we are proud of his decision," he added.



On Mon, 2/24/14, Sanyam Shrivastava  wrote:

 Subject: Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 2:28 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 Greetings all,
 
 
 
 I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am
 from Bhopal, in India. I practice regular meditation, and to
 a large scale, have attained third eye meditation. I am an
 Astronomer, but at the same time i am into Spirituality. I
 know that sounds contradictory.
 
 Anyway, i would like to know, what are the basic discussions
 covered in this group? :)
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread merudanda
Dear Sanyam Shrivastava seeker or finder of truth and liberation!
Welcome to the slim bright shining curl of our companion world at FFL  
mysterious grace of moon 
you may lights a fire anytime in our remembering places at FFL.
Topics and  basic discussions covered in this group are quite beautiful 
described  by Rick Archer 
see and just click
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/info 
https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/FairfieldLife/info
 allow me to copy and paste the content for your convenient:
 Group Description 
 Fairfield Life focuses on topics of interest to seekers (and finders) of truth 
and liberation everywhere. Fairfield, Iowa is home to Maharishi University of 
Management, founded by Maharishi Mahesh Yogi in 1971. There are about 2000 
Transcendental Meditation practitioners here, as well as many others pursuing 
various spiritual paths.

"What is wanted is not the will to believe, but the wish to find out, which is 
the exact opposite." ~ Bertrand Russell

We often discuss the trials and tribulations of the TM Movement, which may not 
interest some, but that's why God created the delete key. Discussions also draw 
from diverse teachers such as Ammachi, Eckhart Tolle, Sri Sri Ravi Shankar, 
Byron Katie, Dalai Lama, Jesus Christ, Buddha, Ramana Maharshi, Shankara, etc.

"The healthy mind challenges its own assumptions." ~ The I Ching

Pretty much any topic is fair game. Currently, there's a lot of discussion 
about American politics. We have discussed spirituality, politics, economics, 
morality and higher states of consciousness, drug laws, evolution vs. 
creationism, enlightenment, advaita, reincarnation, karma, Jyotish (Vedic 
astrology), yagya, Ayurveda, dzogchen, tantra, channeling, vegetarianism, 
kundalini, celibacy, sexuality, homosexuality, abortion, racism, UFOs, 
Buddhism, Hinduism, Veda, Christianity, Islam, Judaism, Scientology, etc.

"Whatever you think, it's more than that" ~ Incredible String Band

You can lurk without joining, but you have to join to post. Members can access 
Files, Photos, Links, and Database.

"Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I 
have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense." 
~ Buddha

"Take what you need and leave the rest." ~ The Band
 
 

"I tore myself away from the safe comfort of certainties through my love for 
the truth; and truth rewarded me." ~ Simone de Beauvoir"
 
 


Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread salyavin808
Yo Sanyam, greetings! 

 Astronomer eh? Is this your job or an armchair passion like it is with me? 
Whichever it is you will find plenty of people here with opinions on cosmology 
and spirituality. The range of opinion is wide but that's what makes it 
interesting.
 

 You can start a conversation on pretty much anything and we'll join in. Or not.
 

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com,  wrote:

 Welcome, Sanyam. There are others here who are fascinated by astronomy and 
cosmology, even jyotish!
It's like a banquet table full of wonderful foods. It's possible to enjoy what 
you like and leave the rest for someone else.
 

 
 
 On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:30 AM, Sanyam Shrivastava 
 wrote:
 
   
 Greetings all,
 
 I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am from Bhopal, in 
India. I practice regular meditation, and to a large scale, have attained third 
eye meditation. I am an Astronomer, but at the same time i am into 
Spirituality. I know that sounds contradictory.
 Anyway, i would like to know, what are the basic discussions covered in this 
group? :)
 
 Thanks in advance


 


 













Re: : [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread Share Long
Welcome, Sanyam. There are others here who are fascinated by astronomy and 
cosmology, even jyotish!
It's like a banquet table full of wonderful foods. It's possible to enjoy what 
you like and leave the rest for someone else.





On Monday, February 24, 2014 8:30 AM, Sanyam Shrivastava 
 wrote:
 
  

Greetings all,

I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am from Bhopal, in 
India. I practice regular meditation, and to a large scale, have attained third 
eye meditation. I am an Astronomer, but at the same time i am into 
Spirituality. I know that sounds contradictory.
Anyway, i would like to know, what are the basic discussions covered in this 
group? :)

Thanks in advance



Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread Michael Jackson
Ha ha ha ha ha ha! It will be interesting see who tells you what - its supposed 
to be a wide ranging forum for discussion of pretty much everything especially 
spirituality. But since the group was created by Rick Archer a former TM 
teacher much of the discussions revolve around transcendental meditation  - its 
effects, the organization that teaches it and whether or not its all legit.

Other topics range from who is watching what on tv to the latest on crop 
circles and what godman is scamming someone today.

Welcome to the group.

What exactly is third eye meditation anyway?

On Mon, 2/24/14, Sanyam Shrivastava  wrote:

 Subject: Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family
 To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
 Date: Monday, February 24, 2014, 2:28 PM
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
  
 
  
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
   
   
   
 
 Greetings all,
 
 
 
 I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am
 from Bhopal, in India. I practice regular meditation, and to
 a large scale, have attained third eye meditation. I am an
 Astronomer, but at the same time i am into Spirituality. I
 know that sounds contradictory.
 
 Anyway, i would like to know, what are the basic discussions
 covered in this group? :)
 
 
 
 Thanks in advance
 
 
 
 
  
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 


Re:: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member in the family

2014-02-24 Thread Sanyam Shrivastava

Greetings all,

I am Sanyam shrivastava, a new member in the family. I am from Bhopal, in 
India. I practice regular meditation, and to a large scale, have attained third 
eye meditation. I am an Astronomer, but at the same time i am into 
Spirituality. I know that sounds contradictory.
Anyway, i would like to know, what are the basic discussions covered in this 
group? :)

Thanks in advance


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread Tom Pall
On Tue, Nov 22, 2011 at 3:28 PM, authfriend  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> > >
> > > Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?
> >
> > One thing is for sure. If you don't feel guilty
> > already, there are those on Fairfield Life who feel
> > that it's their life's work to make you feel that way.  :-)
>
> Just want to point out once again how you can make up
> any nasty story you want about the folks on FFL by the
> simple expedient of not referring to anybody by name.
>
>
I hear that the Guinness Book of World Records is planning on naming
a.m.t,  FFL, In-Bibliography-We-Trust and Banned-From-His-Own-Country for
the longest continuous play of The Taming of the Shrew if the play ever
gets to the end of its run.


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread Bhairitu
On 11/22/2011 10:32 AM, Alex Stanley wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>> Hey, did we hijack the new member's thread? Bhahaha.
>> Welcome Tim?? and sorry. hahaha.
>>
> Your apology must not have been sufficient, because he just unsubscribed a 
> little while ago.

Must've found the kitchen a bit too hot. :-D



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >
> > Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?
> 
> One thing is for sure. If you don't feel guilty
> already, there are those on Fairfield Life who feel 
> that it's their life's work to make you feel that way.  :-)

Just want to point out once again how you can make up
any nasty story you want about the folks on FFL by the
simple expedient of not referring to anybody by name.





[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?

One thing is for sure. If you don't feel guilty
already, there are those on Fairfield Life who feel 
that it's their life's work to make you feel that way.  :-)





Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread Emily Reyn
Should we feel guilty for scaring him off?



>
> From: Alex Stanley 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 10:32 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>
>  
>
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>>
>> Hey, did we hijack the new member's thread? Bhahaha. 
>> Welcome Tim?? and sorry. hahaha.
>> 
>
>Your apology must not have been sufficient, because he just unsubscribed a 
>little while ago.
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, obbajeeba  wrote:
>
> Hey, did we hijack the new member's thread? Bhahaha. 
> Welcome Tim?? and sorry. hahaha.
> 

Your apology must not have been sufficient, because he just unsubscribed a 
little while ago.



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-22 Thread obbajeeba
Hey, did we hijack the new member's thread? Bhahaha. 
Welcome Tim?? and sorry. hahaha.

Emily,
I hope all the activity here has helped with the creativity and focus of your 
school project. Even if you took time out, sometimes that is best for a 
remarkable completed project (as one of Bob's post suggested in a youtube 
video). : )
Let's sail down the river one day.
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=82_bhD0_Trw

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Thanks Obba.  Floating in a box down a river to "anywhere but here" has 
> always been a goal of mine.  The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was one of 
> my favorite stories from childhood.  Tomorrow I'm going to work on getting 
> my links clickable.  Am in school and almost didn't get my final project 
> this quarter finished - too much time here and in my own alternate reality. 
>  Luckily, my instructor accepted my proposal for a 16-hour slip on my 
> deadline and it's finished.
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: obbajeeba 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:54 PM
> >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> > 
> >
> >  
> >Yes, Emily!  Just like http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=SUZBQ8PGWWo
> >Same with your and Bob's exchange the other week. I absolutely enjoyed the 
> >ballet of youtube posts. : )
> >
> >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
> >>
> >> Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and often 
> >> serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things that can 
> >> be difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to different 
> >> parts of the brain, which is also a great thing.  It is "take what you 
> >> like and leave the rest," so to speak.  [unless it's that sex video 
> >> :)].  "Alright, alright, enough already."  
> >> 
> >> I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the parameters 
> >> of a "video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was possibly occurring 
> >> yesterday between Bob and Obbajeeba.   
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> >
> >> > From: Rick Archer 
> >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
> >> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> >  
> >> >-Original Message-
> >> >From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> >> >On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> >> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
> >> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> >> >
> >> >>Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
> >> >everything, isn't there some rule about spam? 
> >> >
> >> >Depends on the definition.
> >> >
> >> >>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
> >> >Especially over and over?
> >> >
> >> >Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > 
> >> >
> >> >
> >>
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Emily Reyn
Thanks Obba.  Floating in a box down a river to "anywhere but here" has always 
been a goal of mine.  The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn was one of my favorite 
stories from childhood.  Tomorrow I'm going to work on getting my links 
clickable.  Am in school and almost didn't get my final project this quarter 
finished - too much time here and in my own alternate reality.  Luckily, my 
instructor accepted my proposal for a 16-hour slip on my deadline and it's 
finished.



>
> From: obbajeeba 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 5:54 PM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>
>  
>Yes, Emily!  Just like http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=SUZBQ8PGWWo
>Same with your and Bob's exchange the other week. I absolutely enjoyed the 
>ballet of youtube posts. : )
>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>>
>> Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and often 
>> serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things that can 
>> be difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to different parts 
>> of the brain, which is also a great thing.  It is "take what you like and 
>> leave the rest," so to speak.  [unless it's that sex video :)].  "Alright, 
>> alright, enough already."  
>> 
>> I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the parameters of 
>> a "video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was possibly occurring 
>> yesterday between Bob and Obbajeeba.   
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> >
>> > From: Rick Archer 
>> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
>> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
>> > 
>> >
>> >  
>> >-Original Message-
>> >From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
>> >On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
>> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
>> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
>> >
>> >>Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
>> >everything, isn't there some rule about spam? 
>> >
>> >Depends on the definition.
>> >
>> >>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
>> >Especially over and over?
>> >
>> >Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.
>> >
>> >
>> > 
>> >
>> >
>>
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yep..dead awake..:-). Good one.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:34 PM, "whynotnow7"  wrote:

> TP still alive in his nightmarish at times dream - You? you dead awake in LA, 
> home-boy. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Unconditional hatred requires only a few words whilst hiding in a closet 
> > whereas a lover never gets tired of expressing his unconditional love, 
> > entertaining the beloved and demanding her attention. Sure looks like 
> > delusional to others, you are not the first person to notice it. But I'm 
> > utterly shameless because only my beloved exists, I seem to have destroyed 
> > myself in the process.
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:
> > 
> > > Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had 
> > > become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts.. This is because they are 
> > > drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has 
> > > glimmered Enlightenment can describe Enlightenment in less than than 
> > > 1000K words. It's a sign of Enlightenment. Your job is to use your 
> > > discernment to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was 
> > > Enlightenment or might have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5 
> > > very difficult pages of delusional, desultory rambling. 
> > >
> >
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread whynotnow7
TP still alive in his nightmarish at times dream - You? you dead awake in LA, 
home-boy. 

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Unconditional hatred requires only a few words whilst hiding in a closet 
> whereas a lover never gets tired of expressing his unconditional love, 
> entertaining the beloved and demanding her attention. Sure looks like 
> delusional to others, you are not the first person to notice it. But I'm 
> utterly shameless because only my beloved exists, I seem to have destroyed 
> myself in the process.
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:
> 
> > Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had 
> > become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are 
> > drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has 
> > glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than 
> > 1000K words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your 
> > discernment to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was 
> > Enlightenment or might have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5 
> > very difficult pages of delusional, desultory rambling.   
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Of course I use unconditional hatred only as a pun in your case. Tom you are 
just an open and shut case of hatred.

There's only one who's the master of unconditional hatred and unconditional 
love and that's your supremely arrogant, genuinely humble, enlightened asshole 
- Ravi Yogi (( bow ))


On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:20 PM, Ravi Yogi  wrote:

> Unconditional hatred requires only a few words whilst hiding in a closet 
> whereas a lover never gets tired of expressing his unconditional love, 
> entertaining the beloved and demanding her attention. Sure looks like 
> delusional to others, you are not the first person to notice it. But I'm 
> utterly shameless because only my beloved exists, I seem to have destroyed 
> myself in the process.
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:
> 
>>  
>> Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had 
>> become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are 
>> drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has 
>> glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than 1000K 
>> words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your discernment 
>> to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was Enlightenment or might 
>> have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5 very difficult pages of 
>> delusional, desultory rambling.   
> 
> 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Well said dear D.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:17 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:

> Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and often 
> serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things that can be 
> difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to different parts of 
> the brain, which is also a great thing.  It is "take what you like and leave 
> the rest," so to speak.  [unless it's that sex video :)].  "Alright, alright, 
> enough already."  
> 
> I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the parameters of a 
> "video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was possibly occurring yesterday 
> between Bob and Obbajeeba.   
> 
> From: Rick Archer 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
> Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>  
> -Original Message-
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
> >Yes. Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
> everything, isn't there some rule about spam? 
> 
> Depends on the definition.
> 
> >And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
> Especially over and over?
> 
> Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.
> 
> 
> 
> 


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Unconditional hatred requires only a few words whilst hiding in a closet 
whereas a lover never gets tired of expressing his unconditional love, 
entertaining the beloved and demanding her attention. Sure looks like 
delusional to others, you are not the first person to notice it. But I'm 
utterly shameless because only my beloved exists, I seem to have destroyed 
myself in the process.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 6:06 PM, Tom Pall  wrote:

> Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had 
> become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are 
> drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has 
> glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than 1000K 
> words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your discernment 
> to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was Enlightenment or might 
> have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5 very difficult pages of 
> delusional, desultory rambling.   
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread TimA
Thank you for that.  I'll do my best.  Thank you for welcoming me to the group 
also.  Tim




--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction, 
> > since I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and 
> > originality from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and  
> > learned the TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have 
> > always felt completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no 
> > desire to learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for 
> > me, are powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time, 
> > though, I appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own 
> > way, as we all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated 
> > from MIU in '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an 
> > M.A. in Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love 
> > literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also 
> > that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote 
> > about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote 
> > describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return 
> > of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how 
> > those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also 
> > be of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look 
> > forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics 
> > sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
> >  
> > http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.  
> > 
> > All the best, Tim Austin
> 
> 
> Welcome Tim ! 
> Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have 
> jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to 
> what they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish 
> about our founder and the TMO.
> On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live the 
> fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
> So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
> You are hereby warned :-)
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
LOL..you know me dear Obba, I'm a voyeur not a purveyor.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:42 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> Meowww. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qSx8hnmVYw
> 
> Ravi, please keep the nudes I sent you, private.; )
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Cat fight huh? Bring it on :-)
> > 
> > But may be there's a much simpler explanation? May be they had a feisty 
> > Fairfield fling on a frosty frolicky Friday night before Barry ramified :-) 
> > the relationship? And she's still the faithful, forlorn, fan of his?
> > 
> > Anyway this should be fun, an ex lover versus a wannabe?
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:23 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > 
> > > Whew. Thanks! Good thing Sal is not reading these posts about her, 
> > > because it may really piss her off! I do hope I am on her delete list. ; 
> > > ) 
> > > Hey, I like Barry (wink, wink, Barry Turq) too, for some reason. I hope 
> > > she is not jealous (maybe of breast attributes)of that, because this 
> > > could become a hilarious thread. Cat fight and all. Take the rug out to 
> > > the dry cleaners. I like her posts, so I won't be blocking or deleting 
> > > hers, even if I screen through them pretty quickly, they are written very 
> > > simple to understand, not much mind needs to go in to grasp. 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Dx7g4qcRw
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > LOL..oh and BTW welcome back dear Obba. Sal's cool I guess, she just 
> > > > has a blind spot for Barry, a big fucking blind spot, a giant one, a 
> > > > giant gong in fact. Any email which has the word Barry acts like a big 
> > > > fucking hammer against this ginormous gong and it obviously creates 
> > > > such a huge noise that it forces Sal react like that - so not her fault 
> > > > really. I think this vaguely reminds me of some Tom & Jerry cartoon.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:50 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem 
> > > > > solved. I do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I 
> > > > > quietly delete them because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they 
> > > > > feel like and that is their right. 
> > > > > Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and 
> > > > > what makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard 
> > > > > all day does better, well kept in the head than shared here with 
> > > > > others sitting on the keyboard judging folks for the content. 
> > > > > hahahaha. 
> > > > > Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened 
> > > > > people may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take 
> > > > > your cat piss spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could 
> > > > > put a different perspective on what content you think should be put 
> > > > > on a forum and maybe one could find a mate easier if they were not so 
> > > > > fucking uptight. 
> > > > > Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
> > > > > No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you 
> > > > > look on the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
> > > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg
> > > > > 
> > > > > Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the 
> > > > > gap or maybe just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage 
> > > > > vandalizes voluptuous silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. 
> > > > > Your age shows. Sheltered by walls of feces. There. Something to 
> > > > > READ. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Did I reach my post count limit yet? 
> > > > > Let me at it! Dammit! 
> > > > > 
> > > > > ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
> > > > > Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of 
> > > > > silence when he damn feels like it. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob 
> > > > > > was trying to pull someone's leg.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time 
> > > > > > :-) even as I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't 
> > > > > > handicap my ability to enjoy their others's abilities, it is after 
> > > > > > all a reflection of mine. I realize my focus on the inner is rarely 
> > > > > > of a concern to most. I sometimes don't have time to go through all 
> > > > > > the posts and I just delete them instead of trying to censor them.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > You are kidding right?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Tom Pall
Robin Calson and Ravi will show you how enlightened they were, have had
become, by snowing you with 1000K word posts..  This is because they are
drama queens, attention freaks and want to show you that no one who has
glimmered  Enlightenment  can describe Enlightenment in less than than
1000K words.   It's a sign of Enlightenment.  Your job is to use your
discernment to realize the difference between Enlightenment, was
Enlightenment or might have been Enlightened can be stated in less than 5
very difficult pages of delusional, desultory rambling.


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread seventhray1

I have to say that Bob's comments are always worth waiting for.  I don't
mind the gaps.  After all, how much foi gras can one eat in a day or a
week.  Some things may be meant to be enjoyed on a more ocassional
basis.


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn 
wrote:
>
> Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and
often serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things
that can be difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to
different parts of the brain, which is also a great thing. Â It is
"take what you like and leave the rest," so to speak. Â [unless it's
that sex video :)]. Â "Alright, alright, enough already." Â
>
> I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the
parameters of a "video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was
possibly occurring yesterday between Bob and Obbajeeba. Â Â
>
>
>
> >
> > From: Rick Archer rick@...
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> >
> >
> >Â
> >-Original Message-
> >From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> >On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> >
> >>Yes. Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
> >everything, isn't there some rule about spam?
> >
> >Depends on the definition.
> >
> >>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
> >Especially over and over?
> >
> >Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like
them.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread obbajeeba
Yes, Emily!  Just like http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=SUZBQ8PGWWo
Same with your and Bob's exchange the other week. I absolutely enjoyed the 
ballet of youtube posts. : )

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and often 
> serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things that can be 
> difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to different parts of 
> the brain, which is also a great thing.  It is "take what you like and leave 
> the rest," so to speak.  [unless it's that sex video :)].  "Alright, 
> alright, enough already."  
> 
> I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the parameters of a 
> "video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was possibly occurring yesterday 
> between Bob and Obbajeeba.   
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Rick Archer 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> > 
> >
> >  
> >-Original Message-
> >From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
> >On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> >
> >>Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
> >everything, isn't there some rule about spam? 
> >
> >Depends on the definition.
> >
> >>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
> >Especially over and over?
> >
> >Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.
> >
> >
> > 
> >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Emily Reyn
Articles, music, videos, etc. can broaden the context of a topic and often 
serve to communicate, either more subtly or more directly, things that can be 
difficult to convey in words. They also perhaps appeal to different parts of 
the brain, which is also a great thing.  It is "take what you like and leave 
the rest," so to speak.  [unless it's that sex video :)].  "Alright, alright, 
enough already."  

I find the idea of a conversation occurring wholly within the parameters of a 
"video exchange" absolutely fascinating...as was possibly occurring yesterday 
between Bob and Obbajeeba.   



>
> From: Rick Archer 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:43 PM
>Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>
>  
>-Original Message-
>From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
>On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
>
>>Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
>everything, isn't there some rule about spam? 
>
>Depends on the definition.
>
>>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
>Especially over and over?
>
>Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.
>
>
> 
>
>

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread obbajeeba
Meowww. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3qSx8hnmVYw

Ravi, please keep the nudes I sent you, private.; )


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Cat fight huh? Bring it on :-)
> 
> But may be there's a much simpler explanation? May be they had a feisty 
> Fairfield fling on a frosty frolicky Friday night before Barry ramified :-) 
> the relationship? And she's still the faithful, forlorn, fan of his?
> 
> Anyway this should be fun, an ex lover versus a wannabe?
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:23 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > Whew. Thanks! Good thing Sal is not reading these posts about her, because 
> > it may really piss her off! I do hope I am on her delete list. ; ) 
> > Hey, I like Barry (wink, wink, Barry Turq) too, for some reason. I hope she 
> > is not jealous (maybe of breast attributes)of that, because this could 
> > become a hilarious thread. Cat fight and all. Take the rug out to the dry 
> > cleaners. I like her posts, so I won't be blocking or deleting hers, even 
> > if I screen through them pretty quickly, they are written very simple to 
> > understand, not much mind needs to go in to grasp. 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Dx7g4qcRw
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > >
> > > LOL..oh and BTW welcome back dear Obba. Sal's cool I guess, she just has 
> > > a blind spot for Barry, a big fucking blind spot, a giant one, a giant 
> > > gong in fact. Any email which has the word Barry acts like a big fucking 
> > > hammer against this ginormous gong and it obviously creates such a huge 
> > > noise that it forces Sal react like that - so not her fault really. I 
> > > think this vaguely reminds me of some Tom & Jerry cartoon.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:50 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem 
> > > > solved. I do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I 
> > > > quietly delete them because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they 
> > > > feel like and that is their right. 
> > > > Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and 
> > > > what makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard all 
> > > > day does better, well kept in the head than shared here with others 
> > > > sitting on the keyboard judging folks for the content. hahahaha. 
> > > > Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened 
> > > > people may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take your 
> > > > cat piss spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could put a 
> > > > different perspective on what content you think should be put on a 
> > > > forum and maybe one could find a mate easier if they were not so 
> > > > fucking uptight. 
> > > > Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
> > > > No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you 
> > > > look on the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg
> > > > 
> > > > Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the gap 
> > > > or maybe just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage vandalizes 
> > > > voluptuous silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. Your age 
> > > > shows. Sheltered by walls of feces. There. Something to READ. 
> > > > 
> > > > Did I reach my post count limit yet? 
> > > > Let me at it! Dammit! 
> > > > 
> > > > ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
> > > > Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of 
> > > > silence when he damn feels like it. 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob 
> > > > > was trying to pull someone's leg.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) 
> > > > > even as I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my 
> > > > > ability to enjoy their others's abilities, it is after all a 
> > > > > reflection of mine. I realize my focus on the inner is rarely of a 
> > > > > concern to most. I sometimes don't have time to go through all the 
> > > > > posts and I just delete them instead of trying to censor them.
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You are kidding right?
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> > > > > > insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> > > > > > she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> > > > > > his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> > > > > > had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > The tru

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Cat fight huh? Bring it on :-)

But may be there's a much simpler explanation? May be they had a feisty 
Fairfield fling on a frosty frolicky Friday night before Barry ramified :-) the 
relationship? And she's still the faithful, forlorn, fan of his?

Anyway this should be fun, an ex lover versus a wannabe?



On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:23 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> Whew. Thanks! Good thing Sal is not reading these posts about her, because it 
> may really piss her off! I do hope I am on her delete list. ; ) 
> Hey, I like Barry (wink, wink, Barry Turq) too, for some reason. I hope she 
> is not jealous (maybe of breast attributes)of that, because this could become 
> a hilarious thread. Cat fight and all. Take the rug out to the dry cleaners. 
> I like her posts, so I won't be blocking or deleting hers, even if I screen 
> through them pretty quickly, they are written very simple to understand, not 
> much mind needs to go in to grasp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Dx7g4qcRw
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > LOL..oh and BTW welcome back dear Obba. Sal's cool I guess, she just has a 
> > blind spot for Barry, a big fucking blind spot, a giant one, a giant gong 
> > in fact. Any email which has the word Barry acts like a big fucking hammer 
> > against this ginormous gong and it obviously creates such a huge noise that 
> > it forces Sal react like that - so not her fault really. I think this 
> > vaguely reminds me of some Tom & Jerry cartoon.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:50 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> > 
> > > Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem 
> > > solved. I do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I 
> > > quietly delete them because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they feel 
> > > like and that is their right. 
> > > Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and 
> > > what makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard all 
> > > day does better, well kept in the head than shared here with others 
> > > sitting on the keyboard judging folks for the content. hahahaha. 
> > > Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened 
> > > people may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take your 
> > > cat piss spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could put a 
> > > different perspective on what content you think should be put on a forum 
> > > and maybe one could find a mate easier if they were not so fucking 
> > > uptight. 
> > > Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
> > > No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you look 
> > > on the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg
> > > 
> > > Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the gap or 
> > > maybe just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage vandalizes 
> > > voluptuous silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. Your age shows. 
> > > Sheltered by walls of feces. There. Something to READ. 
> > > 
> > > Did I reach my post count limit yet? 
> > > Let me at it! Dammit! 
> > > 
> > > ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
> > > Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of 
> > > silence when he damn feels like it. 
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob was 
> > > > trying to pull someone's leg.
> > > > 
> > > > Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) 
> > > > even as I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my 
> > > > ability to enjoy their others's abilities, it is after all a reflection 
> > > > of mine. I realize my focus on the inner is rarely of a concern to 
> > > > most. I sometimes don't have time to go through all the posts and I 
> > > > just delete them instead of trying to censor them.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > You are kidding right?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > > > > 
> > > > > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> > > > > insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> > > > > she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> > > > > his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> > > > > had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> > > > > 
> > > > > The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
> > > > > "the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
> > > > > That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
> > > > > in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
> > > > > has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
> > > > > by someone other than Bob.
> > >

[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread obbajeeba
Whew. Thanks!  Good thing Sal is not reading these posts about her, because it 
may really piss her off!   I do hope I am on her delete list. ; )   
Hey, I like Barry (wink, wink, Barry Turq) too, for some reason. I hope she is 
not jealous (maybe of breast attributes)of that, because this could become a 
hilarious thread. Cat fight and all.   Take the rug out to the dry cleaners.  I 
like her posts, so I won't be blocking or deleting hers, even if I screen 
through them pretty quickly, they are written very simple to understand, not 
much mind needs to go in to grasp. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0Dx7g4qcRw

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> LOL..oh and BTW welcome back dear Obba. Sal's cool I guess, she just has a 
> blind spot for Barry, a big fucking blind spot, a giant one, a giant gong in 
> fact. Any email which has the word Barry acts like a big fucking hammer 
> against this ginormous gong and it obviously creates such a huge noise that 
> it forces Sal react like that - so not her fault really. I think this vaguely 
> reminds me of some Tom & Jerry cartoon.
> 
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:50 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:
> 
> > Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem 
> > solved. I do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I 
> > quietly delete them because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they feel 
> > like and that is their right. 
> > Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and what 
> > makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard all day does 
> > better, well kept in the head than shared here with others sitting on the 
> > keyboard judging folks for the content. hahahaha. 
> > Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened 
> > people may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take your cat 
> > piss spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could put a different 
> > perspective on what content you think should be put on a forum and maybe 
> > one could find a mate easier if they were not so fucking uptight. 
> > Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
> > No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you look 
> > on the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg
> > 
> > Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the gap or 
> > maybe just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage vandalizes 
> > voluptuous silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. Your age shows. 
> > Sheltered by walls of feces. There. Something to READ. 
> > 
> > Did I reach my post count limit yet? 
> > Let me at it! Dammit! 
> > 
> > ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
> > Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of 
> > silence when he damn feels like it. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > >
> > > Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob was 
> > > trying to pull someone's leg.
> > > 
> > > Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) even 
> > > as I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my ability 
> > > to enjoy their others's abilities, it is after all a reflection of mine. 
> > > I realize my focus on the inner is rarely of a concern to most. I 
> > > sometimes don't have time to go through all the posts and I just delete 
> > > them instead of trying to censor them.
> > > 
> > > 
> > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > You are kidding right?
> > > > > 
> > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > > > 
> > > > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> > > > insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> > > > she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> > > > his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> > > > had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> > > > 
> > > > The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
> > > > "the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
> > > > That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
> > > > in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
> > > > has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
> > > > by someone other than Bob.
> > > > 
> > > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> > > > > >> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> > > > > >> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> > > > > >> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> > > > > >> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> > > > > >> most posters on the group are so bored 

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
LOL..oh and BTW welcome back dear Obba. Sal's cool I guess, she just has a 
blind spot for Barry, a big fucking blind spot, a giant one, a giant gong in 
fact. Any email which has the word Barry acts like a big fucking hammer against 
this ginormous gong and it obviously creates such a huge noise that it forces 
Sal react like that - so not her fault really. I think this vaguely reminds me 
of some Tom & Jerry cartoon.



On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:50 PM, obbajeeba  wrote:

> Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem solved. 
> I do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I quietly delete 
> them because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they feel like and that is 
> their right. 
> Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and what 
> makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard all day does 
> better, well kept in the head than shared here with others sitting on the 
> keyboard judging folks for the content. hahahaha. 
> Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened people 
> may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take your cat piss 
> spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could put a different 
> perspective on what content you think should be put on a forum and maybe one 
> could find a mate easier if they were not so fucking uptight. 
> Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
> No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you look on 
> the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg
> 
> Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the gap or 
> maybe just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage vandalizes 
> voluptuous silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. Your age shows. 
> Sheltered by walls of feces. There. Something to READ. 
> 
> Did I reach my post count limit yet? 
> Let me at it! Dammit! 
> 
> ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
> Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of silence 
> when he damn feels like it. 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob was 
> > trying to pull someone's leg.
> > 
> > Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) even 
> > as I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my ability to 
> > enjoy their others's abilities, it is after all a reflection of mine. I 
> > realize my focus on the inner is rarely of a concern to most. I sometimes 
> > don't have time to go through all the posts and I just delete them instead 
> > of trying to censor them.
> > 
> > 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > You are kidding right?
> > > > 
> > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > > 
> > > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> > > insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> > > she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> > > his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> > > had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> > > 
> > > The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
> > > "the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
> > > That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
> > > in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
> > > has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
> > > by someone other than Bob.
> > > 
> > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > >> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> > > > >> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> > > > >> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> > > > >> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> > > > >> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> > > > >> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> > > > >> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> > > > >> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
> > > > > consigned to the Ignore bin. For those interminable 
> > > > > videos as well as the letter from "the wife" that, to me at
> > > > > least, sounded conspicuously fake. Got to give the guy credit…
> > > > > he does have a variety of ways to make himself the center
> > > > > of attention, even if nobody really pays him much of it.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sal 
> > > 
> > >
> >
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread obbajeeba
Same here. If I don't have time for the posts, I delete them. Problem solved. I 
do enjoy a lot of folks posts and if I do not favor them, I quietly delete them 
because I feel everyone posts what the fuck they feel like and that is their 
right. 
Sometimes life is happening around sitting in front of a keyboard and what 
makes life more enjoyable than sitting in front of a keyboard all day does 
better, well kept in the head than shared here with others sitting on the 
keyboard judging folks for the content. hahahaha. 
Sal, take a chill pill or meditate or something. The most enlightened people 
may not have to spew endless words all the time. Maybe take your cat piss 
spewed rug out to air once in a while and that could put a different 
perspective on what content you think should be put on a forum and maybe one 
could find a mate easier if they were not so fucking uptight. 
Picky bitchen. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jukU1x4ZL6w 
 No fucking sense of humor, regardless how well someone may think you look on 
the outside a clump of coal in the middle 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6X9KcrXHwg

Youtube video posts, art posts, link post, are like silence in the gap or maybe 
just before or after someone's vomiting of verbiage vandalizes voluptuous 
silence of creative film, as art is art. Fuck. Your age shows. Sheltered by 
walls of feces. There. Something to READ. 

Did I reach my post count limit yet?  
Let me at it! Dammit!  

ps. I like Bob's wife's posts. 
Bob's too. I understand his youtube collage, and he will come out of silence 
when he damn feels like it. 


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob was 
> trying to pull someone's leg.
> 
> Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) even as 
> I enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my ability to enjoy 
> their others's abilities, it is after all a reflection of mine. I realize my 
> focus on the inner is rarely of a concern to most. I sometimes don't have 
> time to go through all the posts and I just delete them instead of trying to 
> censor them.
> 
> 
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:
> 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> > >
> > > You are kidding right?
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> > 
> > Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> > insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> > she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> > his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> > had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> > 
> > The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
> > "the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
> > That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
> > in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
> > has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
> > by someone other than Bob.
> > 
> > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> > > 
> > > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > > 
> > > >> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> > > >> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> > > >> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> > > >> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> > > >> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> > > >> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> > > >> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> > > >> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> > > > 
> > > > I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
> > > > consigned to the Ignore bin. For those interminable 
> > > > videos as well as the letter from "the wife" that, to me at
> > > > least, sounded conspicuously fake. Got to give the guy credit…
> > > > he does have a variety of ways to make himself the center
> > > > of attention, even if nobody really pays him much of it.
> > > > 
> > > > Sal 
> > 
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Yifu
http://www.fantasygallery.net/fishel/art_4_THE-CREATOR.html

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
>
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > >Sal writes>
> > >No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> > >stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> > >they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> > >context or personal observations. 
> 
> Sal, you talking about Yifu and spamming without context or personal 
> observation supposed artwork as not being contribution?  Like, he probably 
> has a Phd.  Some people seem to be entitled here.
> 
> -Buck Ph7.
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Buck




> >Sal writes>
> >No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> >stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> >they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> >context or personal observations. 

Sal, you talking about Yifu and spamming without context or personal 
observation supposed artwork as not being contribution?  Like, he probably has 
a Phd.  Some people seem to be entitled here.

-Buck Ph7.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread John
Emily Reyn has a ring to it.  Just like the song.



--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Emily Reyn  wrote:
>
> Rick:  Yes, Emily May Reyn is the woman known formally as Denise.  I 
> decided that I wanted to be more anonymous - because I'm paranoid that way 
> (although I haven't kept my cards close to my chest on this forum at all - 
> not at all) and didn't want to be readily searchable on the internet under my 
> real name.  So, I unsuscribed and re-suscribed.  I'm sorry for the 
> confusion and I think I'm going to listen to the Moojie Bat Gap interview - 
> just for fun, of course. 
> 
> 
> 
> >
> > From: Rick Archer 
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:58 PM
> >Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> > 
> >
> >  
> >From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> >Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> >Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM
> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> > 
> >  
> >On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> >
> >> Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
> >> forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not 
> >> in the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom. 
> >
> >No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> >stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> >they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> >context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
> >to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
> >
> >Sal 
> >I haven’t been paying attention. Is Denise “Emily Reyn”? I was sorry 
> >to see Denise go, and happy if she’s still here.
> > 
> > 
> >
> >
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
Yeah agree - that was indeed from the wife, wasn't a post where Bob was trying 
to pull someone's leg.

Either way Bob's an awesome writer - he gave me a real hard time :-) even as I 
enjoyed it. My disagreeing with anyone doesn't handicap my ability to enjoy 
their others's abilities, it is after all a reflection of mine. I realize my 
focus on the inner is rarely of a concern to most. I sometimes don't have time 
to go through all the posts and I just delete them instead of trying to censor 
them.


On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:09 PM, "authfriend"  wrote:

> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
> >
> > You are kidding right?
> > 
> > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826
> 
> Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
> insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
> she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
> his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
> had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).
> 
> The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
> "the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
> That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
> in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
> has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
> by someone other than Bob.
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> > 
> > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > > 
> > >> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> > >> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> > >> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> > >> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> > >> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> > >> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> > >> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> > >> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> > > 
> > > I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
> > > consigned to the Ignore bin. For those interminable 
> > > videos as well as the letter from "the wife" that, to me at
> > > least, sounded conspicuously fake. Got to give the guy credit…
> > > he does have a variety of ways to make himself the center
> > > of attention, even if nobody really pays him much of it.
> > > 
> > > Sal 
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread whynotnow7
works for me, though I just had to post a site for a refrigerator repairman in 
Alaska!

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Alex Stanley"  
wrote:
>
> 
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
> >
> > http://johnnysappliance.com/
> > 
> 
> Or, if you're mechanically inclined, your appliance is an ordinary brand, and 
> the problem isn't so complex that it requires special tools and skills, fix 
> it yourself with parts from here:
> 
> http://www.repairclinic.com/
>




RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
Behalf Of Emily Reyn
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 6:03 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

 

  

Rick:  Yes, Emily May Reyn is the woman known formally as Denise.  I decided 
that I wanted to be more anonymous - because I'm paranoid that way (although I 
haven't kept my cards close to my chest on this forum at all - not at all) and 
didn't want to be readily searchable on the internet under my real name.  So, I 
unsuscribed and re-suscribed.  I'm sorry for the confusion and I think I'm 
going to listen to the Moojie Bat Gap interview - just for fun, of course. 

 

He was one of my favorites so far. Let me know what you think.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
BTW..Welcome back dear D, I realized it was you when I noticed the posts with 
the un-clickable links :-).

Thanks for sharing your stories, intense stuff.

On Nov 21, 2011, at 4:03 PM, Emily Reyn  wrote:

> Rick:  Yes, Emily May Reyn is the woman known formally as Denise.  I decided 
> that I wanted to be more anonymous - because I'm paranoid that way (although 
> I haven't kept my cards close to my chest on this forum at all - not at all) 
> and didn't want to be readily searchable on the internet under my real name.  
> So, I unsuscribed and re-suscribed.  I'm sorry for the confusion and I think 
> I'm going to listen to the Moojie Bat Gap interview - just for fun, of 
> course. 
> 
> From: Rick Archer 
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:58 PM
> Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>  
> From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
> Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
> Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
>  
>  
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> 
> > Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
> > forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in 
> > the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom. 
> 
> No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
> to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
> 
> Sal
> I haven’t been paying attention. Is Denise “Emily Reyn”? I was sorry to see 
> Denise go, and happy if she’s still here.
>  
> 
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> >> Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to
> >> cover everything, isn't there some rule about spam?  
> > 
> > Depends on the definition.
> > 
> >> And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link
> >> qualify? Especially over and over?
> > 
> > Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't
> > like them.
> 
> Agreed. Which is what I've been doing.

Says Sal, with a perfectly straight face, after having written
*five posts* complaining about them.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Yogi  wrote:
>
> You are kidding right?
> 
> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/293826

Don't you get it? Bob dissed her hero. So she *has* to
insult him and ignore his posts (except when she thinks
she might get Rick to sanction him for spamming, then
his posts become a terrible burden, you see, as if she
had to actually watch all those "interminable" videos).

The truly amazing part is that she thinks the post from
"the wife" was not just fake but "conspicuously" fake.
That's despite the fact that it was starkly different
in style, tone, vocabulary, and ideas from anything Bob
has ever posted here. One might say it was *conspicuously*
by someone other than Bob.



> On Nov 21, 2011, at 11:48 AM, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> > 
> >> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> >> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> >> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> >> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> >> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> >> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> >> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> >> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> > 
> > I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
> > consigned to the Ignore bin.  For those interminable 
> > videos as well as the letter from "the wife" that, to me at
> > least, sounded conspicuously fake.  Got to give the guy credit…
> > he does have a variety of ways to make himself the center
> > of attention, even if nobody really pays him much of it.
> > 
> > Sal 




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Emily Reyn
Rick:  Yes, Emily May Reyn is the woman known formally as Denise.  I decided 
that I wanted to be more anonymous - because I'm paranoid that way (although I 
haven't kept my cards close to my chest on this forum at all - not at all) and 
didn't want to be readily searchable on the internet under my real name.  So, I 
unsuscribed and re-suscribed.  I'm sorry for the confusion and I think I'm 
going to listen to the Moojie Bat Gap interview - just for fun, of course. 



>
> From: Rick Archer 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:58 PM
>Subject: RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>
>  
>From:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com] On 
>Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>  
>On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
>
>> Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
>> forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in 
>> the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom. 
>
>No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
>stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
>they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
>context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
>to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
>
>Sal 
>I haven’t been paying attention. Is Denise “Emily Reyn”? I was sorry to see 
>Denise go, and happy if she’s still here.
> 
> 
>
>

RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
-Original Message-
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 4:24 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

>Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules to cover
everything, isn't there some rule about spam?  

Depends on the definition.

>And don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link qualify?
Especially over and over?

Too hard to police. You have to just ignore them if you don't like them.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Alex Stanley


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "whynotnow7"  wrote:
>
> http://johnnysappliance.com/
> 

Or, if you're mechanically inclined, your appliance is an ordinary brand, and 
the problem isn't so complex that it requires special tools and skills, fix it 
yourself with parts from here:

http://www.repairclinic.com/




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Ravi Yogi
http://www.facebook.com/pages/Sals-Junk-Yard/154764397895530



On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:53 PM, "whynotnow7"  wrote:

> http://johnnysappliance.com/
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
> >
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> > 
> > > On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > > 
> > > > Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over 
> > > > this forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute 
> > > > or not in the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the 
> > > > Frazier sitcom. 
> > > 
> > > No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> > > stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> > > they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> > > context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
> > > to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
> > > 
> > > Sal
> > > 
> > > I haven't been paying attention. Is Denise "Emily Reyn"? I was sorry to 
> > > see Denise go, and happy if she's still here.
> > 
> > Yes. Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules
> > to cover everything, isn't there some rule about spam? And
> > don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link
> > qualify? Especially over and over?
> > 
> > Sal
> >
> 
> 


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread whynotnow7
http://johnnysappliance.com/

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:
> 
> > On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> > 
> > > Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over 
> > > this forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or 
> > > not in the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier 
> > > sitcom. 
> > 
> > No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> > stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> > they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> > context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
> > to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
> > 
> > Sal
> > 
> > I haven't been paying attention. Is Denise "Emily Reyn"? I was sorry to see 
> > Denise go, and happy if she's still here.
> 
> Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules
> to cover everything, isn't there some rule about spam?  And
> don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link
> qualify?  Especially over and over?
> 
> Sal
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:58 PM, Rick Archer wrote:

> On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:
> 
> > Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
> > forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in 
> > the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom. 
> 
> No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
> stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
> they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
> context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
> to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.
> 
> Sal
> 
> I haven’t been paying attention. Is Denise “Emily Reyn”? I was sorry to see 
> Denise go, and happy if she’s still here.

Yes.  Rick, while I realize you can't possibly have rules
to cover everything, isn't there some rule about spam?  And
don't posts with no commentary at all except for a link
qualify?  Especially over and over?

Sal 









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RE: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Rick Archer
From: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com [mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com]
On Behalf Of Sal Sunshine
Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 3:42 PM
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

 

  

On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:

> Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this
forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in
the future. Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom. 

No apologies necessary. I have no problem with your personal
stories or any of the other things you've contributed. Because
they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
context or personal observations. I think you've added tremendously
to this forum, Denise. And I hope you'll continue to.

Sal 

I haven't been paying attention. Is Denise "Emily Reyn"? I was sorry to see
Denise go, and happy if she's still here.

 



Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 21, 2011, at 3:20 PM, Emily Reyn wrote:

> Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
> forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in 
> the future.  Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom.  

No apologies necessary.  I have no problem with your personal
stories or any of the other things you've contributed.  Because
they've all been *contributions,* not mindless, empty links with no
context or personal observations.  I think you've added tremendously
to this forum, Denise.  And I hope you'll continue to.

Sal 







Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Emily Reyn
Sal, I personally apologize to you and everyone for bleeding all over this 
forum and have a better handle this week on how I will contribute or not in the 
future.  Denise has "left the building", as per the Frazier sitcom.  



>
> From: Sal Sunshine 
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Monday, November 21, 2011 1:03 PM
>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member
> 
>
>  
>On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:05 PM, turquoiseb wrote:
>
>>> 
>>> I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
>>> consigned to the Ignore bin. 
>> 
>> Sal, I was actually talkin' generically, as I do
>> from time to time here, although some persist in
>> thinking It's All About Them. 
>> 
>> I'm not comin' down on posting YouTube links, cuz
>> I do it myself. But I find myself sometimes find 
>> it difficult to put them into any kind of context, 
>> given the lack thereof supplied by the poster. :-)
>> 
>> For example, here is a link to song that was posted
>> to another forum by a past prolific poster here. He
>> wisely introduced it as "one of the most beautiful 
>> depressing songs ever written." Without that context,
>> one could be tempted to believe that the poster was
>> focusing on the depression, and not the beauty.
>> 
>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1onAfREa4
>> 
>> See how much nicer it is with the context included?
>
>Agreed, context is all (wonderful song, BTW.)  I was thinking
>more of what's been going on lately, the rash of links
>~~most of them to youtube, but that's not the issue~~that seem to be some kind 
>of private
>joke (or as private as you can get on a forum like this)  between he and 
>Denise or he and whomever, that
>I have neither the time nor the interest in exploring.  With
>no context provided whatsoever.  I think it's incredibly rude, 
>and is bound to bore the bejeesus out of anyone not directly involved, but 
>maybe others don't.  Maybe others really dig that kind 
>of communication.  I don't, and seeing as how it seems to have
>become almost a compulsive habit with Bob~~and one that showed
>few signs of abating at last glimpse~~he went bye-bye.
>My inbox is much happier without his boring, attention-hogging nonsense.
>
>Sal 
>
>
> 
>
>

Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread Sal Sunshine
On Nov 21, 2011, at 2:05 PM, turquoiseb wrote:

>> 
>> I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
>> consigned to the Ignore bin.  
> 
> Sal, I was actually talkin' generically, as I do
> from time to time here, although some persist in
> thinking It's All About Them. 
> 
> I'm not comin' down on posting YouTube links, cuz
> I do it myself. But I find myself sometimes find 
> it difficult to put them into any kind of context, 
> given the lack thereof supplied by the poster. :-)
> 
> For example, here is a link to song that was posted
> to another forum by a past prolific poster here. He
> wisely introduced it as "one of the most beautiful 
> depressing songs ever written." Without that context,
> one could be tempted to believe that the poster was
> focusing on the depression, and not the beauty.
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1onAfREa4
> 
> See how much nicer it is with the context included?

Agreed, context is all (wonderful song, BTW.)  I was thinking
more of what's been going on lately, the rash of links
~~most of them to youtube, but that's not the issue~~that seem to be some kind 
of private
joke (or as private as you can get on a forum like this)  between he and Denise 
or he and whomever, that
I have neither the time nor the interest in exploring.  With
no context provided whatsoever.  I think it's incredibly rude, 
and is bound to bore the bejeesus out of anyone not directly involved, but 
maybe others don't.  Maybe others really dig that kind 
of communication.  I don't, and seeing as how it seems to have
become almost a compulsive habit with Bob~~and one that showed
few signs of abating at last glimpse~~he went bye-bye.
My inbox is much happier without his boring, attention-hogging nonsense.

Sal 







[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


emptybill:
> If you believe you are absent, unaware and
> unconscious then please provide your proof...
>
There are three forms of valid knowledge:

1. Sense perception. 
2. Inference. 
3. Verbal testimony.

"The only true wisdom is in knowing you know 
nothing." - Socrates 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epistemology 

Sometimes different senses contradict each other, 
though at other times they erroneously corroborate 
each other. When they contradict, which sense 
shall we accept as reliable? 

Comparison of present paradoxes with past 
experiences simply involves greater possibilities 
of error and greater paradoxes. For past 
experiences, to be compared, must be remembered. 
But, memory often fails us. What assurance do we 
have that your memory is not failing us again? 

Also, the past experiences themselves may have 
been erroneous. Can the possibility of erroneous 
recollection, added to the possibility of 
erroneous past experience, be used to deny evidence 
at hand? Testimony of others may be erroneous in 
the extreme! 

If past experiences can have been consistently in 
error, why not present and future experiences? Yet, 
past experiences may have been erroneous 
consistently. 

When doubts become serious, we naturally consult 
others. Somehow we have come to trust the counsel 
of teachers, at least about some things. So, a lot 
of what we know was told to us by others. 

> > Most of the things we know we learned by someone
> > telling us something, that is, verbal testimony.
> >
> > So, we know about things by using our ears. We
> > also use our eyes to get knowledge and information.
> > This is sometimes called common sense. These are
> > the valid means of knowldge.
> >
> > There is also another means - inference. We infer,
> > based on observations, that human excrement always
> > flows downstream. So, we have verbal knowledge,
> > we can use our senses, and based on observations,
> > we can posit inferences.
> >
> > Sort of like when you first heard about yoga and
> > zen and satori from your Master Rama Lenz and then
> > went around "parroting" what you heard from your
> > teacher.
> >
> > But, apparently we don't have an apriori "deeper",
> > transcendental knowledge. That is, unless you're
> > making the claim that you were born already
> > enlightened or that you have some sort of esoteric
> > and secret knowledge.
> >
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Sal Sunshine  wrote:
>
> On Nov 21, 2011, at 5:40 AM, turquoiseb wrote:
> 
> > To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> > on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> > over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> > other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> > all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> > most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> > so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> > they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> 
> I assume you're talking about Bob Price, whom I long ago
> consigned to the Ignore bin.  

Sal, I was actually talkin' generically, as I do
from time to time here, although some persist in
thinking It's All About Them. 

I'm not comin' down on posting YouTube links, cuz
I do it myself. But I find myself sometimes find 
it difficult to put them into any kind of context, 
given the lack thereof supplied by the poster. :-)

For example, here is a link to song that was posted
to another forum by a past prolific poster here. He
wisely introduced it as "one of the most beautiful 
depressing songs ever written." Without that context,
one could be tempted to believe that the poster was
focusing on the depression, and not the beauty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d1onAfREa4

See how much nicer it is with the context included?
This is a *wonderfully* sad song, straight out of
the Country & Western tradition, delivered with 
*just* the proper amount of pathos, and with an
instrumental accompaniment that is as professional
as one can hear in any genre of recorded music. It's 
a masterpiece of what it is -- a traditionally sad
C&W song, about a sad reality that may not be ours,
but that we can empathize with, if the song moves
us into the mindspace of compassion.




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)

Ooops, need to fix this. There's actually only a few folks
who have been posting all the links to YouTube videos, not
"most posters on the group."

(That's a fact, not Just My Opinion. You need to be
aware that there are folks here who will knowingly
post nonfacts--falsehoods--while claiming that there
are no such things as facts, only opinions, thinking
that will somehow immunize them from the charge of
having posted falsehoods, because they don't recognize
the existence of facts.)

> The end result of this is that when so-called "spiritual"
> subjects arise here, from my point of view (that is, In
> My Opinion - IMO) most of those replying seriously to
> threads dealing with those subjects have an agenda they
> are pushing. They may be True Believer TMers, or True
> Believers representing some other teacher or tradition,
> or just True Believers In The Total Awesomeness Of Them-
> selves, trying to recruit followers. In other words, if 
> you were searching for a word to describe them, "attached" 
> would be the first that springs to mind.

Again, given the number of times turquoiseb has posted
this same Opinion in the past, and almost certainly will
post it in the future, the word "attached" might spring
to mind as the appropriate way to describe *him*.

But of course, although he sure may appear to be a True
Believer In The Total Awesomeness Of Himself, he isn't
trying to "recruit followers." That's the furthest thing
from his mind, as he would be the first to tell you. It's
only *other people* who do this. So you're much better
off siding with him rather than them.





[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread emptybill
We are present and aware.
This is Certitude.
No awakened master gave it to you.
No demon can take it away.

Before birth that was it. Now in embodiment ... that is it.
This is the fundamental (un)koan prior to thinking, prior to mind.

If you believe you are absent, unaware and
unconscious then please provide your proof.
I'll be watching for it.








--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "richardatrwilliamsdotus"
 wrote:
>
>
>
> turquoiseb:
> > The "deeper" or more cosmic a poster tries
> > to present his or her point of view, the more
> > likely it is to really be superficial, probably
> > something they were told by someone else, and
> > are just parroting...
> >
> Most of the things we know we learned by someone
> telling us something, that is, verbal testimony.
>
> So, we know about things by using our ears. We
> also use our eyes to get knowledge and information.
> This is sometimes called common sense. These are
> the valid means of knowldge.
>
> There is also another means - inference. We infer,
> based on observations, that human excrement always
> flows downstream. So, we have verbal knowledge,
> we can use our senses, and based on observations,
> we can posit inferences.
>
> Sort of like when you first heard about yoga and
> zen and satori from your Master Rama Lenz and then
> went around "parroting" what you heard from your
> teacher.
>
> But, apparently we don't have an apriori "deeper",
> transcendental knowledge. That is, unless you're
> making the claim that you were born already
> enlightened or that you have some sort of esoteric
> and secret knowledge.
>



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread authfriend
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:

> As an educational aid in determining who constitutes
> this group that seek is speaking about, pay attention
> to the distinction between those who try to convince
> you that their point of view is true, or The Truth, or
> "correct," or the only possible way to see things.
> They are the members of the group seek defines above.
> As opposed to those who just spout opinions, and are
> clear that what they say IS opinion.
> 
> In short, anyone who is trying to sell you something
> is really trying to sell you their ego, and its sup-
> posed worth. The more they attempt to sell it to you,
> the less actual worth it has.

Please note that turquoiseb is not trying to sell you
on his point of view about what goes on here. No
matter how definitive he may sound in providing you
with...uh...educational aids, he'd be the first to 
assure you they're Just His Opinions, no closer to
the truth than anyone else's opinions, worth no more
than any other opinions.


> Such people will argue you blue in the face about the
> things they're attached to, if that's what you're look-
> ing for. Like seekliberation, I'm just giving you a
> heads-up that they may have their own reasons for doing
> so. Some involve True Believerism, some involve narcis-
> sism and over-corpulent egos, some involve long-term
> personal grudges and the desire to recruit someone to
> "their side" of such a completely meaningless grudge,
> and some are just trolls.

And here turquoiseb isn't trying to recruit you to "his
side" of any long-term personal grudge against anybody
here. Nor is he trolling (or as he calls it, "pushing
buttons"). No matter how many times in the past he's
expressed these same opinions, no matter how often he
may do so in the future, he isn't the tiniest bit
attached to them.

> That said, there are still a number of people who know
> how to take spirituality (and themselves) less than
> seriously, and who can be fun to have exchanges with.

And this is *not* a statement that you should take as
narcissistic or egotistical; you should not infer that
he's including himself among those who can be fun to have
exchanges with.

(Of course, this is all Just My Opinion. I could be wrong.)




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread richardatrwilliamsdotus


turquoiseb:
> The "deeper" or more cosmic a poster tries
> to present his or her point of view, the more 
> likely it is to really be superficial, probably
> something they were told by someone else, and 
> are just parroting...
>
Most of the things we know we learned by someone
telling us something, that is, verbal testimony. 

So, we know about things by using our ears. We 
also use our eyes to get knowledge and information. 
This is sometimes called common sense. These are 
the valid means of knowldge. 

There is also another means - inference. We infer, 
based on observations, that human excrement always 
flows downstream. So, we have verbal knowledge, 
we can use our senses, and based on observations, 
we can posit inferences.

Sort of like when you first heard about yoga and 
zen and satori from your Master Rama Lenz and then
went around "parroting" what you heard from your 
teacher. 

But, apparently we don't have an apriori "deeper",
transcendental knowledge. That is, unless you're 
making the claim that you were born already 
enlightened or that you have some sort of esoteric
and secret knowledge. 



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread obbajeeba
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hta0ndC7Dqw

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"
> >  wrote:
> > >
> > > Greetings Tim,
> > >
> > > glad to have you on the forum.  From what I gather, pretty
> > > much everyone on this forum is a meditator/siddha.  However,
> > > i'll have to warn you that this forum isn't quite what it
> > > was 7-8 years ago.  It used to be a forum where aspects of
> > > spirituality and other deep topics were discussed.  These
> > > days, you can expect occasional subjects of a deeper nature
> > > mixed with arguments about politics, famous people, and
> > > whether or not a Chevy is inferior to a Ford.  It can be
> > > very random, but at the same time if there wasn't such a
> > > thing as 'superficial', then there wouldn't be such a thing
> > > as 'deep'.
> > 
> > While I agree with seek's assessment of the group,
> > I would suggest that there is no such thing as "deep."
> > There are only different degrees of superficial. The
> > "deeper" or more cosmic a poster tries to present his
> > or her point of view, the more likely it is to really
> > be superficial, probably something they were told by
> > someone else, and are just parroting.
> 
> To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
> on this group's home page have been "done to death"
> over the years, discussed up one side and down the
> other, so many times that most people aren't really 
> all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
> most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
> so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
> they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)
> 
> The end result of this is that when so-called "spiritual"
> subjects arise here, from my point of view (that is, In
> My Opinion - IMO) most of those replying seriously to
> threads dealing with those subjects have an agenda they
> are pushing. They may be True Believer TMers, or True
> Believers representing some other teacher or tradition,
> or just True Believers In The Total Awesomeness Of Them-
> selves, trying to recruit followers. In other words, if 
> you were searching for a word to describe them, "attached" 
> would be the first that springs to mind.
> 
> Such people will argue you blue in the face about the
> things they're attached to, if that's what you're look-
> ing for. Like seekliberation, I'm just giving you a 
> heads-up that they may have their own reasons for doing
> so. Some involve True Believerism, some involve narcis-
> sism and over-corpulent egos, some involve long-term
> personal grudges and the desire to recruit someone to
> "their side" of such a completely meaningless grudge, 
> and some are just trolls.
> 
> That said, there are still a number of people who know
> how to take spirituality (and themselves) less than 
> seriously, and who can be fun to have exchanges with.
> You'll figure out who is who quickly enough. Good luck
> finding the ones you want to hang with...
>




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"
>  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings Tim,
> >
> > glad to have you on the forum.  From what I gather, pretty
> > much everyone on this forum is a meditator/siddha.  However,
> > i'll have to warn you that this forum isn't quite what it
> > was 7-8 years ago.  It used to be a forum where aspects of
> > spirituality and other deep topics were discussed.  These
> > days, you can expect occasional subjects of a deeper nature
> > mixed with arguments about politics, famous people, and
> > whether or not a Chevy is inferior to a Ford.  It can be
> > very random, but at the same time if there wasn't such a
> > thing as 'superficial', then there wouldn't be such a thing
> > as 'deep'.
> 
> While I agree with seek's assessment of the group,
> I would suggest that there is no such thing as "deep."
> There are only different degrees of superficial. The
> "deeper" or more cosmic a poster tries to present his
> or her point of view, the more likely it is to really
> be superficial, probably something they were told by
> someone else, and are just parroting.

To temper this somewhat, the types of topics listed
on this group's home page have been "done to death"
over the years, discussed up one side and down the
other, so many times that most people aren't really 
all that interested in them any more. Note that lately 
most posters on the group are so bored with it and/or
so incapable of finding anything to write about that all
they can think of to post are links to YouTube videos. :-)

The end result of this is that when so-called "spiritual"
subjects arise here, from my point of view (that is, In
My Opinion - IMO) most of those replying seriously to
threads dealing with those subjects have an agenda they
are pushing. They may be True Believer TMers, or True
Believers representing some other teacher or tradition,
or just True Believers In The Total Awesomeness Of Them-
selves, trying to recruit followers. In other words, if 
you were searching for a word to describe them, "attached" 
would be the first that springs to mind.

Such people will argue you blue in the face about the
things they're attached to, if that's what you're look-
ing for. Like seekliberation, I'm just giving you a 
heads-up that they may have their own reasons for doing
so. Some involve True Believerism, some involve narcis-
sism and over-corpulent egos, some involve long-term
personal grudges and the desire to recruit someone to
"their side" of such a completely meaningless grudge, 
and some are just trolls.

That said, there are still a number of people who know
how to take spirituality (and themselves) less than 
seriously, and who can be fun to have exchanges with.
You'll figure out who is who quickly enough. Good luck
finding the ones you want to hang with...





[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-21 Thread turquoiseb
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seekliberation"
 wrote:
>
> Greetings Tim,
>
> glad to have you on the forum.  From what I gather, pretty
> much everyone on this forum is a meditator/siddha.  However,
> i'll have to warn you that this forum isn't quite what it
> was 7-8 years ago.  It used to be a forum where aspects of
> spirituality and other deep topics were discussed.  These
> days, you can expect occasional subjects of a deeper nature
> mixed with arguments about politics, famous people, and
> whether or not a Chevy is inferior to a Ford.  It can be
> very random, but at the same time if there wasn't such a
> thing as 'superficial', then there wouldn't be such a thing
> as 'deep'.

While I agree with seek's assessment of the group,
I would suggest that there is no such thing as "deep."
There are only different degrees of superficial. The
"deeper" or more cosmic a poster tries to present his
or her point of view, the more likely it is to really
be superficial, probably something they were told by
someone else, and are just parroting.

> You are also going to find common feuds here.  There are
> some very notable and dominant personalities in this group
> who i've come to believe their whole purpose in life is to
> communicate on FFL. You'll catch on real quick to who's who
> and what to expect from them.

As an educational aid in determining who constitutes
this group that seek is speaking about, pay attention
to the distinction between those who try to convince
you that their point of view is true, or The Truth, or
"correct," or the only possible way to see things.
They are the members of the group seek defines above.
As opposed to those who just spout opinions, and are
clear that what they say IS opinion.

In short, anyone who is trying to sell you something
is really trying to sell you their ego, and its sup-
posed worth. The more they attempt to sell it to you,
the less actual worth it has.

When in doubt, if you're actually looking for wisdom,
swing behind those who are wise enough to know that
everything they say is opinion. And who have a sense
of humor about expressing even that. If all else fails,
try reading the group while standing on your head.
It won't help, but you'll feel better having tried all
the angles:

  [http://cdn.svcs.c2.uclick.com/c2/2be24de0c060012e2f8f00163e41dd5b]




[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread seventhray1
Welcome.  I think we should try to draft Kinky to make a run for president 
again.  You and Tom may have more pull since you are residents.  What do you 
think?

http://www.kinkyfriedman.com/index.html


 Tom Pall  wrote:
> Welcome, Tex.   Nabby is a bit down on the group because not all of us buy
> into his crop circles and belief that Buddha's been alive and is walking
> the fact of the Earth right now.
> 
> I make my home in Austin, Texas and want to offer you a big Texas welcome:
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread Bob Price


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LQzTL2RZyY



From: seekliberation 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 1:16:29 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member



Greetings Tim,

glad to have you on the forum.  From what I gather, pretty much everyone on 
this forum is a meditator/siddha.  However, i'll have to warn you that this 
forum isn't quite what it was 7-8 years ago.  It used to be a forum where 
aspects of spirituality and other deep topics were discussed.  These days, you 
can expect occasional subjects of a deeper nature mixed with arguments about 
politics, famous people, and whether or not a Chevy is inferior to a Ford.  It 
can be very random, but at the same time if there wasn't such a thing as 
'superficial', then there wouldn't be such a thing as 'deep'.  So expect the 
full spectrum of life in these discussions, not just 'transcendental' concepts. 

You are also going to find common feuds here.  There are some very notable and 
dominant personalities in this group who i've come to believe their whole 
purpose in life is to communicate on FFL.  You'll catch on real quick to who's 
who and what to expect from them.  Don't be disappointed if you see some 
childish bickering on occasion either.  I've seen some rather low-class insults 
and belittling of others go on here.   Opinions run deep with some of these 
people, and I admit guilt of it sometimes myself. 

There are several types of people here.  TB's (true believers), characterized 
by a deep conviction that the TMO (tm orgainization) is quite possibly the 
greatest thing in the history of the world, and TM will take our souls from A 
to Z in one lifetime.  Then there is the polar opposite which I call the NB's 
(non believers) who think the TMO is a complete scam, TM is a pseudo-spiritual 
technique, and MMY (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) is a fraudulent Guru who squeezed an 
ocean of material benefits from an ounce of spiritual truth.  Then there are 
balanced people who think that TM is awesome, but the higher ups in the TMO are 
so looney that the TMO is doomed.  Then there are others that have completely 
left behind TM/TMSP (TM siddhi's prgm) for other spiritual paths, but still 
recognize TM/TMSP's value. 

Enjoy yourself on the forum, it does become kind of addictive at times...

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
>
> Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction, since 
> I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and originality 
> from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and  learned the 
> TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have always felt 
> completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no desire to 
> learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for me, are 
> powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time, though, I 
> appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own way, as we 
> all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated from MIU in 
> '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an M.A. in 
> Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love 
> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also 
> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a
 poem I wrote about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I 
wrote describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The 
Return of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how 
those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also be of 
interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look forward 
to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics sound 
intriguing.  My blogs are at
> 
> http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/. 
> 
> All the best, Tim Austin
>


   


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread seekliberation
Greetings Tim,

glad to have you on the forum.  From what I gather, pretty much everyone on 
this forum is a meditator/siddha.  However, i'll have to warn you that this 
forum isn't quite what it was 7-8 years ago.  It used to be a forum where 
aspects of spirituality and other deep topics were discussed.  These days, you 
can expect occasional subjects of a deeper nature mixed with arguments about 
politics, famous people, and whether or not a Chevy is inferior to a Ford.  It 
can be very random, but at the same time if there wasn't such a thing as 
'superficial', then there wouldn't be such a thing as 'deep'.  So expect the 
full spectrum of life in these discussions, not just 'transcendental' concepts. 
 

You are also going to find common feuds here.  There are some very notable and 
dominant personalities in this group who i've come to believe their whole 
purpose in life is to communicate on FFL.  You'll catch on real quick to who's 
who and what to expect from them.  Don't be disappointed if you see some 
childish bickering on occasion either.  I've seen some rather low-class insults 
and belittling of others go on here.   Opinions run deep with some of these 
people, and I admit guilt of it sometimes myself.  

There are several types of people here.  TB's (true believers), characterized 
by a deep conviction that the TMO (tm orgainization) is quite possibly the 
greatest thing in the history of the world, and TM will take our souls from A 
to Z in one lifetime.  Then there is the polar opposite which I call the NB's 
(non believers) who think the TMO is a complete scam, TM is a pseudo-spiritual 
technique, and MMY (Maharishi Mahesh Yogi) is a fraudulent Guru who squeezed an 
ocean of material benefits from an ounce of spiritual truth.  Then there are 
balanced people who think that TM is awesome, but the higher ups in the TMO are 
so looney that the TMO is doomed.  Then there are others that have completely 
left behind TM/TMSP (TM siddhi's prgm) for other spiritual paths, but still 
recognize TM/TMSP's value.

Enjoy yourself on the forum, it does become kind of addictive at times...

seekliberation

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
>
> Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction, since 
> I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and originality 
> from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and  learned the 
> TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have always felt 
> completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no desire to 
> learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for me, are 
> powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time, though, I 
> appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own way, as we 
> all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated from MIU in 
> '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an M.A. in 
> Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love 
> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also 
> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote 
> about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote 
> describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return 
> of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how 
> those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also be 
> of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look 
> forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics 
> sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
>  
> http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.  
> 
> All the best, Tim Austin
>




Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread Bob Price


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsXnK0ouTL8&feature=related



From: Tom Pall 
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2011 11:12:40 AM
Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member



On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, nablusoss1008  
wrote:


>
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
>>
>> Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction, since 
>> I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and originality 
>> from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and  learned the 
>> TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have always felt 
>> completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no desire to 
>> learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for me, are 
>> powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time, though, I 
>> appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own way, as we 
>> all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated from MIU in 
>> '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an M.A. in 
>> Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love 
>> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also 
>> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I
 wrote about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote 
describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return of 
Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how those 
writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also be of 
interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look forward 
to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics sound 
intriguing.  My blogs are at
>>
>> http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.
>>
>> All the best, Tim Austin
>
>
>Welcome Tim !
>Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have 
>jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to what 
>they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish about our 
>founder and the TMO.
>On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live the 
>fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
>So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
>You are hereby warned :-)
>
>
>

Welcome, Tex.   Nabby is a bit down on the group because not all of us buy into 
his crop circles and belief that Buddha's been alive and is walking the fact of 
the Earth right now.

I make my home in Austin, Texas and want to offer you a big Texas welcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related
   


Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread Tom Pall
On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 12:40 PM, nablusoss1008 wrote:

>
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
> >
> > Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction,
> since I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and
> originality from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and
>  learned the TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have
> always felt completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no
> desire to learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for
> me, are powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time,
> though, I appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own
> way, as we all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated
> from MIU in '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an
> M.A. in Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love
> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also
> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote
> about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote
> describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return
> of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how
> those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also
> be of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look
> forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics
> sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
> >
> > http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.
> >
> > All the best, Tim Austin
>
>
> Welcome Tim !
> Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have
> jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to
> what they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish
> about our founder and the TMO.
> On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live
> the fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
> So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
> You are hereby warned :-)
>
>
Welcome, Tex.   Nabby is a bit down on the group because not all of us buy
into his crop circles and belief that Buddha's been alive and is walking
the fact of the Earth right now.

I make my home in Austin, Texas and want to offer you a big Texas welcome:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mv4eaSxEjTQ&feature=related


[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2011-11-20 Thread nablusoss1008


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "TimA"  wrote:
>
> Greetings group members.  I am happy to read the group's introduction, since 
> I also embrace many genuine paths, and appreciate insights and originality 
> from any potential source.  I learned TM when I was 11 and  learned the 
> TM-Sidhi program about 10 years later.  I personally have always felt 
> completely content (grateful) with these practices.  I have no desire to 
> learn any other techniques of meditation only because these, for me, are 
> powerful and totally fulfilling in themselves.  At the same time, though, I 
> appreciate and respect anyone else's freedom in finding their own way, as we 
> all do in this challenging life.  A very brief bio, I graduated from MIU in 
> '91 with a B.A. in Literature and an Art minor, and then got an M.A. in 
> Spanish Literature from a state school in Texas.  Obviously, I love 
> literature and languages, and also independent film.  Sincerely I add also 
> that I love doing my program!  I'm leaving below a link to a poem I wrote 
> about Maharishi.  The other blog at that site is a brief letter I wrote 
> describing people's general, and variegated, response to my book The Return 
> of Spirit.  Since Fairfield residents figure into this discussion of how 
> those writings were received, this essay ("Masking the Truth") might also be 
> of interest to group members.  Thank you for letting me join, and I look 
> forward to going through a sample of former posts made here, whose topics 
> sound intriguing.  My blogs are at
>  
> http://peoplesguidetotheendoftheworld.blogspot.com/.  
> 
> All the best, Tim Austin


Welcome Tim ! 
Please note that the majority on this board consist of naysayers who have 
jumped Maharishi's ship decades ago. Strangely enough they still cling to what 
they experienced and are able to write the most unbelievable garbish about our 
founder and the TMO.
On the other hand there are som brilliant souls here, even some that live the 
fruit of all sadhana, that is at least CC.
So your challenge will be to discover the diamonds in the dust.
You are hereby warned :-) 



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member introduces herself

2009-01-15 Thread peterklutz

peterklutz[at]yahoo[dot]com[dot]au



[FairfieldLife] Re: New member introduces herself

2009-01-15 Thread peterklutz

Hey "Ron" -

Not sure there is a relationship here, but after Moriah's introducing
herself I cannot find any more posts by her.

Anyway, I read your reply to her introduction and spotted this turd of
ignorance left behind by yourself..


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ron"  wrote:
>
> --- In swam...@yahoogroups.com, Moriah Kaplan  wrote:
> >

[mercy snip]

> * In Peru I spent some time with some Shamans - the experiences there 
> deepened the awareness of union with nature energytically -
vibrating in 
> the same frequency .pointing to the oness
> 
> G i don't advise the useage of ayahuasca or any types of drugs
within the 
> path. They are unpredicatable and leave many in states of a disconnect 
> which has no balance within it. 

[mercy snip]

You don't really know what you are talking about do you..?

It's actually works completely the opposite way around - and I now
address the entire community reading this reply/post. 

If you're one of these long-term TMers which has this feeling of
having become stuck - that in spite of deep experiences during years
of programming there remain these hidden sleeping elephants, or
whatever, that just wont go away. There may even be physical
impairments. And you may have this even after doing PK treatments and
what else. 

Well, your freedom, final spiritual emanicipation, is only hours away
- if that's what your presence within the confines of the TMO is
really about.

Drop me an email for contact details to the best place to do Ayahuasca
in Peru at this time.

peterkl...@yahoo.com.au.

Cheers,

PK









[FairfieldLife] Re: New member

2008-07-14 Thread dhamiltony2k5
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Greetings from Cleveland Ohio - USA
> 
> My Photo & brief profile below - 
> 
> http://clevelandohiousa.tripod.com/myphoto 
> 
> Thank you, John
>
 
Om hey John, are you a meditator, or a non-meditator?

Rick Archer, a meditator, seems to let almost anybody on this FFL 
board.  Upfront, which are you?

Jai Guru Dev,
-Doug in FF