[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Had there been any uptick in the exodus, however, you would have probably noticed. Just wondered if enough people throw up their hands for it to register. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 6/26/06 2:57 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > Rick (or anyone with a finger on the pulse of > > the 'ru community in Fairfield), have you noticed > > any blowback from the recertification > > and pundit debacles of the past few years? > > > I tend not to hang out with folks who have gotten recertified or who ever > believed that pundits were coming, and I¹m not too tuned in to those who > have and did. I did run into an old friend yesterday who is trying to set up > a peace palace in Ames (north of Des Moines home of Iowa State U.) and has > already set up a store in a mall there. I commended her on her dedication. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Something is new at Yahoo! Groups. Check out the enhanced email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/SISQkA/gOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's easy on Yahoo dude! OK Vaj, I get it :) > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Johny & Bob, > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification > course, > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > >>> with. > > cheer up > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost > every > >>> effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure > to > >>> consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement > as a > >>> reality check. > >> > >> Bob > >> The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > > programs who's purpose > >> is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > > cult wackos. This is all > >> that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > > jobs now a round for > >> the K-mart shoppers. > > > > easyone - That was a belly laugh!! > > nothing like a good laugh in the middle of all this s > > > > JohnY > > > > > I did not post this - and they even made my email address show up > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Great things are happening at Yahoo! Groups. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/TISQkA/hOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That's easy on Yahoo dude! > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > wrote: > >> > >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >>> > >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>> > Johny & Bob, > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification > course, > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > >>> with. > > cheer up > >>> > >>> ** > >>> > >>> The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost > every > >>> effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure > to > >>> consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement > as a > >>> reality check. > >> > >> Bob > >> The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > > programs who's purpose > >> is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > > cult wackos. This is all > >> that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > > jobs now a round for > >> the K-mart shoppers. > > > > easyone - That was a belly laugh!! > > nothing like a good laugh in the middle of all this s > > > > JohnY > > > > > I did not post this - and they even made my email address show up > > JohnY Cancel that - just got tangled in a thread that went back to april 2005. Can't get used to the new web interface. JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> See what's inside the new Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/2pRQfA/bOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
That's easy on Yahoo dude! --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >>> >>> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] >>> wrote: >>> >>> Johny & Bob, I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin >>> with. cheer up >>> >>> ** >>> >>> The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every >>> effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to >>> consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a >>> reality check. >> >> Bob >> The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > programs who's purpose >> is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > cult wackos. This is all >> that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > jobs now a round for >> the K-mart shoppers. > > easyone - That was a belly laugh!! > nothing like a good laugh in the middle of all this s > > JohnY > I did not post this - and they even made my email address show up JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Check out the new improvements in Yahoo! Groups email. http://us.click.yahoo.com/6pRQfA/fOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" [EMAIL PROTECTED] > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > > with. > > > > > > > > cheer up > > > > > > ** > > > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > > > reality check. > > > > Bob > > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > programs who's purpose > > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > cult wackos. This is all > > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > jobs now a round for > > the K-mart shoppers. > > easyone - That was a belly laugh!! > nothing like a good laugh in the middle of all this s > > JohnY > I did not post this - and they even made my email address show up JohnY Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Title: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline on 6/26/06 2:57 PM, Patrick Gillam at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick (or anyone with a finger on the pulse of the 'ru community in Fairfield), have you noticed any blowback from the recertification and pundit debacles of the past few years? I tend not to hang out with folks who have gotten recertified or who ever believed that pundits were coming, and I’m not too tuned in to those who have and did. I did run into an old friend yesterday who is trying to set up a peace palace in Ames (north of Des Moines – home of Iowa State U.) and has already set up a store in a mall there. I commended her on her dedication. __._,_.___ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' SPONSORED LINKS Religion and spirituality Buddha shakyamuni Maharishi mahesh yogi YAHOO! GROUPS LINKS Visit your group "FairfieldLife" on the web. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. __,_._,___
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Rick (or anyone with a finger on the pulse of the 'ru community in Fairfield), have you noticed any blowback from the recertification and pundit debacles of the past few years? --- on Sun Apr 3, 2005, L B Shriver wrote: > > Rick Archer wrote: > > > Many of these 550 people [on the recertification course] may have given up > > jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would be > > able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out, > > a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned. > > > > That people some people will probably be financially ruined by this program > is sad, even > though they are, in effect, volunteers. That a "big chuck of the remaining > core may end up > disuillusioned" is a good thing, in my opinion. Why would we wish that they > remain bound > up in denial and surrender to a dying cult? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ~--> Yahoo! Groups gets a make over. See the new email design. http://us.click.yahoo.com/XISQkA/lOaOAA/yQLSAA/UlWolB/TM ~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > > > My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY > > ordered the > > draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was > > no longer > > welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY - his reservations > > about taking > > earned ATR points away from teachers. I recall that we all assumed that the > > TMO really > > needed the money for some higher purpose, or some project. Besides, everyone > > was > > afraid to speak up about their true feelings because there was the very real > > possibility of > > being blackballed from further participation in teaching or ATR. Cause if > > Jerry could be > > given the cold shoulder, anyone could. > > There were probably a number of instances which were all expressions of > Jerry's growing independence. He was critical of the siddhis, of the ATR > rip-off... He pursued the NJ court case when M told him to drop it. Too bad > he didn't make a clean break. Reportedly, he's still in limbo-land. My understanding is that Jerry held 4 million back when M said to send it all to international to support the US centers. And Maharishi got ticked. This was after the ATR credit cancellation. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up > >> their end of the bargain? > >> > >> L B S > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. > > -Peter > > That someone was MMY. He ordered it. That whole 'take the ATR credit' scheme is what me in trouble. The only thing is that "the cash back after initiating 100 and you get your third month of Siddhi's at $250 cheaper" tripped over it and I did get my ATR back in cash (and blacklisted from courses for awhile). JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I asked Punditji and he said he is the course. Go > figure. > -Peter > --- rudra_joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on > > going ? > > > > JohnY > > > > > > ---Thank you. > > ( Great big smile ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > While I will let others comment on your history, my reference to > Brahman was incidental to my main point. I will rephrase it, > "where in the Universe is the problem." > > Just curious, with so many references to Brahman on this list over the > years, why did you choose my rather tangental remark to comment on?/ *lol* Akasha, you always were lucky To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always > > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few > > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. > > > -Peter > > > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there was no doer of the > > initiations, and thus no thief claiming ownership of the action, and > > thus no thief claiming ownership of the ATR credit. > > > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, was not a thief of the > action > > of canceling all ATR credits. > > > > Thus it appears nature was working on nature, adjusting karmic > account > > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, no victim, no foul. > > > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem? > > Hello Mr. akasha_108, > > Namsate > Deepest Respect > > This "Brahman" thingy never existed until 1827 when the "Brahmo > Samaj" was established by Raja Ram Roy while employed by the East > Indian Company. The evolution of the spelling took several decades, > until Sir Monier-Williams wrote a book called "Brahmanism and > Hinduism". Then "Brahmo Samaj" became Brahman Samaj. (And, Raja Ram > Roy wrote of natural law and the God-as Supreme Govenor of such "law", > one hundred years before Lil Mahesh.) Hello Mr. Anonymous, Namsate Deepest Respect While I will let others comment on your history, my reference to Brahman was incidental to my main point. I will rephrase it, "where in the Universe is the problem." Just curious, with so many references to Brahman on this list over the years, why did you choose my rather tangental remark to comment on?/ To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. > > -Peter > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there was no doer of the > initiations, and thus no thief claiming ownership of the action, and > thus no thief claiming ownership of the ATR credit. > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, was not a thief of the action > of canceling all ATR credits. > > Thus it appears nature was working on nature, adjusting karmic account > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, no victim, no foul. > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem? Hello Mr. akasha_108, Namsate Deepest Respect This "Brahman" thingy never existed until 1827 when the "Brahmo Samaj" was established by Raja Ram Roy while employed by the East Indian Company. The evolution of the spelling took several decades, until Sir Monier-Williams wrote a book called "Brahmanism and Hinduism". Then "Brahmo Samaj" became Brahman Samaj. (And, Raja Ram Roy wrote of natural law and the God-as Supreme Govenor of such "law", one hundred years before Lil Mahesh.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
I didn't ask that. - Original Message - From: Peter Sutphen To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline I asked Punditji and he said he is the course. Gofigure.-Peter--- rudra_joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:> > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on> going ?> > JohnY> > > ---Thank you.> > > > To subscribe, send a message to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> and click 'Join This Group!' > > > >> Yahoo! Groups Links> > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to:> http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/> > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an> email to:> [EMAIL PROTECTED]> > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the> Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.comTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/5/05 1:10 PM, wayback71 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY > ordered the > draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was > no longer > welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY - his reservations > about taking > earned ATR points away from teachers. I recall that we all assumed that the > TMO really > needed the money for some higher purpose, or some project. Besides, everyone > was > afraid to speak up about their true feelings because there was the very real > possibility of > being blackballed from further participation in teaching or ATR. Cause if > Jerry could be > given the cold shoulder, anyone could. There were probably a number of instances which were all expressions of Jerry's growing independence. He was critical of the siddhis, of the ATR rip-off... He pursued the NJ court case when M told him to drop it. Too bad he didn't make a clean break. Reportedly, he's still in limbo-land. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
My understanding of that event is exactly as Rick reports it - that MMY ordered the draining of ATR accounts, Jerry was upset, and that was the reason Jerry was no longer welcome in the TMO - he had expressed - in front of MMY - his reservations about taking earned ATR points away from teachers. I recall that we all assumed that the TMO really needed the money for some higher purpose, or some project. Besides, everyone was afraid to speak up about their true feelings because there was the very real possibility of being blackballed from further participation in teaching or ATR. Cause if Jerry could be given the cold shoulder, anyone could. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/5/05 12:48 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >until someone sucked the ATR credit account > >> dry. > >>> -Peter > >> > >> That someone was MMY. He ordered it. > > > > Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry Jarvis > > was really furious about it. Remember the letter they > > sent..."It is such a joy to work fulltime for the > > Movement" > > -Peter > > Who in the Mvt had authority over Jerry Jarvis at that time? Of course he > ordered it. He has always been directly involved in policies and decisions > much smaller than that one. Even if someone else came up with the idea, he > would have had to approve it. The finance people have never worked > independently of MMY. They go over everything with him and he makes the > decisions. I vaguely remember some meeting in Seelisberg or Vitznau around > that time when it was being discussed in his presence, but I don't remember > details. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Oh well...more grist for the mill! --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/05 12:48 PM, Peter Sutphen at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >until someone sucked the ATR credit account > >> dry. > >>> -Peter > >> > >> That someone was MMY. He ordered it. > > > > Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry > Jarvis > > was really furious about it. Remember the letter > they > > sent..."It is such a joy to work fulltime for the > > Movement" > > -Peter > > Who in the Mvt had authority over Jerry Jarvis at > that time? Of course he > ordered it. He has always been directly involved in > policies and decisions > much smaller than that one. Even if someone else > came up with the idea, he > would have had to approve it. The finance people > have never worked > independently of MMY. They go over everything with > him and he makes the > decisions. I vaguely remember some meeting in > Seelisberg or Vitznau around > that time when it was being discussed in his > presence, but I don't remember > details. > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Yes, I understand Peter. As long as you continue to comparmentalize wholeness into little domains, and feel the need to keep tracking all your different dharmas blazing in your mind, you will continue to feel the need to play dharma cop -- and to continue to cite people for your own internal vision of dharmic conflicts of the One Eternal Dharma. Cite away. As GH said: Beware of darkness. All things must pass. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Watch out Akasha, you're going to get a dharma fine! > > --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National > > always > > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a > > few > > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account > > dry. > > > -Peter > > > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there was no > > doer of the > > initiations, and thus no thief claiming ownership of > > the action, and > > thus no thief claiming ownership of the ATR credit. > > > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, was not a > > thief of the action > > of canceling all ATR credits. > > > > Thus it appears nature was working on nature, > > adjusting karmic account > > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, no victim, > > no foul. > > > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/5/05 12:48 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >until someone sucked the ATR credit account >> dry. >>> -Peter >> >> That someone was MMY. He ordered it. > > Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry Jarvis > was really furious about it. Remember the letter they > sent..."It is such a joy to work fulltime for the > Movement" > -Peter Who in the Mvt had authority over Jerry Jarvis at that time? Of course he ordered it. He has always been directly involved in policies and decisions much smaller than that one. Even if someone else came up with the idea, he would have had to approve it. The finance people have never worked independently of MMY. They go over everything with him and he makes the decisions. I vaguely remember some meeting in Seelisberg or Vitznau around that time when it was being discussed in his presence, but I don't remember details. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Can you cite a few examples where they have kept > up > >> their end of the bargain? > >> > >> L B S > > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National > always > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a > few > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account > dry. > > -Peter > > That someone was MMY. He ordered it. Rick, do you know that for sure? I know Jerry Jarvis was really furious about it. Remember the letter they sent..."It is such a joy to work fulltime for the Movement" -Peter > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Watch out Akasha, you're going to get a dharma fine! --- akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National > always > > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a > few > > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account > dry. > > -Peter > > Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there was no > doer of the > initiations, and thus no thief claiming ownership of > the action, and > thus no thief claiming ownership of the ATR credit. > > And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, was not a > thief of the action > of canceling all ATR credits. > > Thus it appears nature was working on nature, > adjusting karmic account > consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, no victim, > no foul. > > So where in the Brahaman is the problem? > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. > -Peter Well, for the mind/body aka Peter, there was no doer of the initiations, and thus no thief claiming ownership of the action, and thus no thief claiming ownership of the ATR credit. And the blazing Brahman mind/body aka MMY, was not a thief of the action of canceling all ATR credits. Thus it appears nature was working on nature, adjusting karmic account consistent with Eternal Dharma. No thief, no victim, no foul. So where in the Brahaman is the problem? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/5/05 12:05 PM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up >> their end of the bargain? >> >> L B S > > When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always > sent the correct percentage back and the correct > percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few > years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. > -Peter That someone was MMY. He ordered it. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
I asked Punditji and he said he is the course. Go figure. -Peter --- rudra_joe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on > going ? > > JohnY > > > ---Thank you. > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > a.. To visit your group on the web, go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > b.. To unsubscribe from this group, send an > email to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > c.. Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the > Yahoo! Terms of Service. > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- L B Shriver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > snip > > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the > bargain > > everything will be fine. > > > > Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up > their end of the bargain? > > L B S When I started teaching TM in 1973, National always sent the correct percentage back and the correct percentage into my ATR account. That lasted for a few years until someone sucked the ATR credit account dry. -Peter > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "rudra_joe" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: When I look back at the Movement I see myself and my desires, not really much more than that. Oh yeah baby, the smoke clears and what do we see? Yaw cookin wit gas now, sucka! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Oh and then they slapped the name "Maharishi" on front of it.It's business and a money making scheme. It has nothing to do with "purity of the tradition" or rescuing Ayuved.Ayur-greed. yeah, that was my complaint too. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 5, 2005, at 10:31 AM, rudra_joe wrote: It is very interesting. Is it enslaving? There's a good bit of choice involved. Much of it is moral choice. I am of the opinion that much of it is "spin". If you were a Vaidya of high repute, if someone approached you and said "we want to revive the science of Ayurveda and make it available to the world" you'd probably bite. And bite they did, until they realized their secrets were being sold, their formulas mass-produced as the most expensive rasayanas on the planet and their therapies were priced for the wealthy, affluent and famous. And it was watered down for the western mindset, things that would offend were removed and it was packaged and sold. Oh and then they slapped the name "Maharishi" on front of it. It's business and a money making scheme. It has nothing to do with "purity of the tradition" or rescuing Ayuved. Ayur-greed.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
It is interesting but also very sad.-It is very interesting. Is it enslaving? There's a good bit of choice involved. Much of it is moral choice. MMY appeals to peoples moral choices, as any religious figure does. My guess is that many of these, so called, slaves are would be just as enslaved to their own moral code regardless of their idol. As I did once, I also put all thought of a larger world out of mind for the sake of peace of mind. But the larger world just wouldn't quit. Also, I couldn't beat it so I joined it. And I'm grateful for my choice. When I look back at the Movement I see myself and my desires, not really much more than that. I did what I wanted including bleaching and dying my hair red when I came off of THP and totally blowing their minds. That was a feeling walking into the domes before superradiance with my hair two tone. Anyone remember that kid? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 5, 2005, at 8:45 AM, Peter Sutphen wrote: > Isn't interesting how the TMO wants to > enslave everyone that has value for them? It is interesting but also very sad. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: > > > Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be > just another > > M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the > knowledge of Ayurveda and > > other Vedic knowledge > > So you actually believe that Chopra was trained in > Ayurveda by > Maharishi? Interesting. > > There was actually someone on the list just the > other day who kindly > relayed one of the primary reasons Chopra > left--which he heard from > Chopra himself at a book signing. If you are > familiar with the JAMA > case, and given the fact you seem to live > vicariously thru the > movements every machination--I would be surprised if > you did not. > > It is also fairly well known what happened to Vasant > Lad and the > movement. Pretty sick. A friend who trained on the > physicians course in > Fairfield told lots of stories about what went on > with Chopra. Bottom > line: I'm amazed he didn't leave sooner. > > And what happened to Trigunaji and Balraj? They seem > most conspicuous > by their absence. Triguna-ji has always seemed to be a free agent, independently working with spiritual movements that seek his knowledge. I know he's worked with Sri Sri Ravi Shankar's Art of Living Organization, but he's not "part off" Art of Living. Don't know anything about Balraj. Isn't interesting how the TMO wants to enslave everyone that has value for them? -Peter > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- wayback71 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > > I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with > the TMO. What > > > happened? I saw him > > > about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine > person. > > > > He was to be "the one" for Ayurveda. Just before > he was to go out to be > > announced at a ceremony--they sprung a document on > him --which he had > > to sign-- which stated he took MMY as his master > and declaring > > obedience to him, etc. Lad has a guru. He broke > into tears. He refused > > to sign. End of story. > > UGH. Being Indian and perhaps eclectic, > nonjudgmental and mature in his views, Ladd > must have been clueless about the TMO m.o to have > gotten so close to being installed and > not have had suspicions about the whole loyalty > thing. He seems to have done well on his > terms. Good for him. I doubt they wanted him to sign a pledge that stated MMY was his guru. But I'm sure they wanted him to sign a contract that put him on the short end of a financial arrangement and also severally restricted or curtailed any ayurvedic activity outside of the TMO. I saw Dr. Ladd when he came to Ffld in the mid 80's. Nice guy. -Peter > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - Helps protect you from nasty viruses. http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > > > I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What > > > happened? I saw him > > > about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. > > > > He was to be "the one" for Ayurveda. Just before he was to go out to be > > announced at a ceremony--they sprung a document on him --which he had > > to sign-- which stated he took MMY as his master and declaring > > obedience to him, etc. Lad has a guru. He broke into tears. He refused > > to sign. End of story. > > Vaj, > > I had also heard that he did not like the financial arrangements. Does > that jive with what you know? > > BTW, I asked Chropra the question about why he left the TMO after the > book signing. Not exactly one-on-one, but with only a few in earshot. > > JohnY>>> What did he say? (Even when Chopra first came in with the TMO, adn for several years, and EVERYONE else thought he was a god, I had a clear sense he would leave and start his own (rather superficial) movement.) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What > > happened? I saw him > > about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. > > He was to be "the one" for Ayurveda. Just before he was to go out to be > announced at a ceremony--they sprung a document on him --which he had > to sign-- which stated he took MMY as his master and declaring > obedience to him, etc. Lad has a guru. He broke into tears. He refused > to sign. End of story. Vaj, I had also heard that he did not like the financial arrangements. Does that jive with what you know? BTW, I asked Chropra the question about why he left the TMO after the book signing. Not exactly one-on-one, but with only a few in earshot. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
> On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: > > > I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What > > happened? I saw him > > about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. > > He was to be "the one" for Ayurveda. Just before he was to go out to be > announced at a ceremony--they sprung a document on him --which he had > to sign-- which stated he took MMY as his master and declaring > obedience to him, etc. Lad has a guru. He broke into tears. He refused > to sign. End of story. UGH. Being Indian and perhaps eclectic, nonjudgmental and mature in his views, Ladd must have been clueless about the TMO m.o to have gotten so close to being installed and not have had suspicions about the whole loyalty thing. He seems to have done well on his terms. Good for him. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 4, 2005, at 8:55 PM, wayback71 wrote: > I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What > happened? I saw him > about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. He was to be "the one" for Ayurveda. Just before he was to go out to be announced at a ceremony--they sprung a document on him --which he had to sign-- which stated he took MMY as his master and declaring obedience to him, etc. Lad has a guru. He broke into tears. He refused to sign. End of story. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
I never knew Vasant Ladd had been connected with the TMO. What happened? I saw him about 16 years ago. Excellent doctor and fine person. : > > On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: > > > Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another > > M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the knowledge of Ayurveda and > > other Vedic knowledge > Vaj wrote: > So you actually believe that Chopra was trained in Ayurveda by > Maharishi? Interesting. > > There was actually someone on the list just the other day who kindly > relayed one of the primary reasons Chopra left--which he heard from > Chopra himself at a book signing. If you are familiar with the JAMA > case, and given the fact you seem to live vicariously thru the > movements every machination--I would be surprised if you did not. > > It is also fairly well known what happened to Vasant Lad and the > movement. Pretty sick. A friend who trained on the physicians course in > Fairfield told lots of stories about what went on with Chopra. Bottom > line: I'm amazed he didn't leave sooner. > > And what happened to Trigunaji and Balraj? They seem most conspicuous > by their absence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 4, 2005, at 7:07 PM, Bob Brigante wrote: > Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another > M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the knowledge of Ayurveda and > other Vedic knowledge So you actually believe that Chopra was trained in Ayurveda by Maharishi? Interesting. There was actually someone on the list just the other day who kindly relayed one of the primary reasons Chopra left--which he heard from Chopra himself at a book signing. If you are familiar with the JAMA case, and given the fact you seem to live vicariously thru the movements every machination--I would be surprised if you did not. It is also fairly well known what happened to Vasant Lad and the movement. Pretty sick. A friend who trained on the physicians course in Fairfield told lots of stories about what went on with Chopra. Bottom line: I'm amazed he didn't leave sooner. And what happened to Trigunaji and Balraj? They seem most conspicuous by their absence. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why does someone who once was with the TMO have to > labeled as pathological when they leave it? In my > encounters with Chopra I found him to be a very decent > guy, far from the egomaniac that some people try to > smear him with. The only person that knows why he left > the TMO is Chopra and he appears to be decent enough > to not bad mouth the TMO or MMY (that's left to us > here on FFL!). People can leave the TMO and MMY, even > stop meditating for perfectly normal, healthy, > non-pathological reasons. > -Peter * There may be some who claim that all who leave the TMO need to be labeled as pathological, but I am not doing so. Chopra, however, is so arrogant as to qualify for the label "pathological" in my opinion, and in the opinion of a number of writers who have interviewed him or otherwise examined his work since leaving the TMO. To say that only Chopra can say why he left the TMO is ridiculous -- everybody has a right to think about the behavior of public figures, and Chopra is such a public figure, who would still be just another M.D. in Boston if MMY had not given him the knowledge of Ayurveda and other Vedic knowledge, which he has spun into a huge personal fortune. MMY has said that people stop meditating because the high stress levels in the world do not permit people to be happy -- this does not make people who quit TM "pathological," but the current world certainly is pathological, disease-producing. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/4/05 12:45 AM, m2smart4u2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > signs of excessive meditation, he finally > >> flipped out: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/4dphk > >> > >> > > who is this guy? surely he has another name? > > > Ted Nevels. I wouldn't say he's flipped out. I've spoken with him in the > last year and he is very clear and intelligent. A brilliant software > designer, among other accomplishments. ** If that loopy web site of his, where he claims all sorts of esoteric knowledge and describes his battles with demons and bestows the lofty title of Viswamitra (one of the great sages of Vedic lore) on himself, does not convince you he's flipped out, well, you are certainly entitled to an opinion until you finish the recert course, but being a clever software programmer does not mean somebody is not otherwise nuts. There are currently several books out about the relationship at Princeton between Kurt Godel and Einstein. Godel was a brilliant logician, but stark raving mad, which is why Princeton took many years before they finally granted him tenure. One of Godel's obsessions was that his refrigerator was poisoning him -- to humor him, Einstein took out a patent on a refrigerator design that would appease Godel's fears. http://www.mhcan.org/Resources/fmcrzy.htm To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/3/05 10:39 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > >> Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all > >> outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good > >> portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine > >> issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" > > > > No room for anymore big ego's I guess... > > > No room for people who think creatively and independently. ** That's true, that TMO mgmt is "birds of a feather," and that feather is crackpot thinking, but that does not mean that Chopra is not a crackpot who just happened to be even more arrogant than other TM bureaucrats and had to leave to have more liebensraum for his ego. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > Why does someone who once was with the TMO have to > labeled as pathological when they leave it? Positioning. L B S snip to end > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Or go to: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > > and click 'Join This Group!' > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > Do you Yahoo!? > Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. > http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- Bob Brigante <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob > Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, > "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob > Brigante" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that > Chopra's ego, big as > all > > > outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so > he left. A good > > > portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior > is in Esquire > magazine > > > issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... > cold" > > > > > Have to look it up. > > > > He seemed sincere to me, and mad about it besides. > > I attended 2 WPA's that he lead in the 90's - > liked him. Good > speaker. > > Good front man for the time. > > > > JohnY > > ** > > I did like Chopra's first several books, and > originally he was > personable enough, certainly, to do the job for the > TMO, but I think > he began to lose his glue when he over-meditated in > order to hop > during yogic flying. I think he felt that a big shot > like himself > needed to be a good yogic flier, so he piled on the > meditation, and > his behavior became bizarre (although he was said to > have become a > pretty good hopper) -- it's like that guy on Purusha > who felt that he > was not doing enough to get enlightened, and started > intense > meditation that was way beyond what he should have > been doing. > Ignoring all the warning signs of excessive > meditation, he finally > flipped out: > > http://tinyurl.com/4dphk > > There are people who can handle almost any amount of > meditation, but > Chopra was not one of them, having been before he > started TM just > another doctor with plenty stress (and > booze/cigarette habits IIRC) > stored in his nervous system. Why does someone who once was with the TMO have to labeled as pathological when they leave it? In my encounters with Chopra I found him to be a very decent guy, far from the egomaniac that some people try to smear him with. The only person that knows why he left the TMO is Chopra and he appears to be decent enough to not bad mouth the TMO or MMY (that's left to us here on FFL!). People can leave the TMO and MMY, even stop meditating for perfectly normal, healthy, non-pathological reasons. -Peter > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/4/05 12:45 AM, m2smart4u2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > signs of excessive meditation, he finally > >> flipped out: > >> > >> http://tinyurl.com/4dphk > >> > >> > > who is this guy? surely he has another name? > > > Ted Nevels. I wouldn't say he's flipped out. I've spoken with him in the > last year and he is very clear and intelligent. A brilliant software > designer, among other accomplishments. Anyone with experiences of the programs he offer? Atmaveda II and the rest? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/4/05 12:45 AM, m2smart4u2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > signs of excessive meditation, he finally >> flipped out: >> >> http://tinyurl.com/4dphk >> >> > who is this guy? surely he has another name? > Ted Nevels. I wouldn't say he's flipped out. I've spoken with him in the last year and he is very clear and intelligent. A brilliant software designer, among other accomplishments. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, m2smart4u2000 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > signs of excessive meditation, he finally > > flipped out: > > > > http://tinyurl.com/4dphk > > > > > who is this guy? surely he has another name? Yes, it was once mentioned on this list by Rich Archer (IIRC). He's an IT-consultant of sorts. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
signs of excessive meditation, he finally > flipped out: > > http://tinyurl.com/4dphk > > who is this guy? surely he has another name? To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all > > outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good > > portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine > > issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" > > Have to look it up. > > He seemed sincere to me, and mad about it besides. > I attended 2 WPA's that he lead in the 90's - liked him. Good speaker. > Good front man for the time. > > JohnY ** I did like Chopra's first several books, and originally he was personable enough, certainly, to do the job for the TMO, but I think he began to lose his glue when he over-meditated in order to hop during yogic flying. I think he felt that a big shot like himself needed to be a good yogic flier, so he piled on the meditation, and his behavior became bizarre (although he was said to have become a pretty good hopper) -- it's like that guy on Purusha who felt that he was not doing enough to get enlightened, and started intense meditation that was way beyond what he should have been doing. Ignoring all the warning signs of excessive meditation, he finally flipped out: http://tinyurl.com/4dphk There are people who can handle almost any amount of meditation, but Chopra was not one of them, having been before he started TM just another doctor with plenty stress (and booze/cigarette habits IIRC) stored in his nervous system. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/3/05 10:39 PM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all >> outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good >> portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine >> issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" > > No room for anymore big ego's I guess... > No room for people who think creatively and independently. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't > teach > > > my own > > > > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do > it > > > today, or > > > > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone > else > > > find > > > > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In message > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > > > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > > > > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course > > > exactly > > > > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > > > > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's > going > > > to > > > > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the > enthusiasm > > > for > > > > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very > long > > > shelf > > > > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, > > > logistically and > > > > > financially. > > > > > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be > one > > > final > > > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery > > > politically > > > > correct language, of course). > > > > > > > > > > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > ** > > > > > > Deepak Chopra never became a TM teacher. > > > > > > I didn't know that Bob. I've asked him directly why he left the TMO > > when he did a book signing at the Himilayan Institute and he said a > > few sentences about the TMO not standing behind him during the > > JAMA/Ayruvedic products lawsuits. > > > > JohnY > > > > Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all > outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good > portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine > issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" No room for anymore big ego's I guess... JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't > teach > > > my own > > > > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do > it > > > today, or > > > > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone > else > > > find > > > > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In message > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > > > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > > > > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course > > > exactly > > > > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > > > > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's > going > > > to > > > > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the > enthusiasm > > > for > > > > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very > long > > > shelf > > > > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, > > > logistically and > > > > > financially. > > > > > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be > one > > > final > > > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery > > > politically > > > > correct language, of course). > > > > > > > > > > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > ** > > > > > > Deepak Chopra never became a TM teacher. > > > > > > I didn't know that Bob. I've asked him directly why he left the TMO > > when he did a book signing at the Himilayan Institute and he said a > > few sentences about the TMO not standing behind him during the > > JAMA/Ayruvedic products lawsuits. > > > > JohnY > > > > Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all > outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good > portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine > issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" Have to look it up. He seemed sincere to me, and mad about it besides. I attended 2 WPA's that he lead in the 90's - liked him. Good speaker. Good front man for the time. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach > > my own > > > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it > > today, or > > > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else > > find > > > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In message > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course > > exactly > > > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going > > to > > > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm > > for > > > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long > > shelf > > > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, > > logistically and > > > > financially. > > > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one > > final > > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery > > politically > > > correct language, of course). > > > > > > > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > ** > > > > Deepak Chopra never became a TM teacher. > > I didn't know that Bob. I've asked him directly why he left the TMO > when he did a book signing at the Himilayan Institute and he said a > few sentences about the TMO not standing behind him during the > JAMA/Ayruvedic products lawsuits. > > JohnY Strictly a cover story -- the fact is that Chopra's ego, big as all outdoors, could no longer fit in the TMO, and so he left. A good portrait of his arrogance and bizarre behavior is in Esquire magazine issue of Oct 1995, "Deepak Chopra has a..snff... cold" To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > cheer up > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and > failure to > > > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement > as a > > > > reality check. > > > > > > Bob > > > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > > programs who's purpose > > > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > > cult wackos. This is all > > > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > > jobs now a round for > > > the K-mart shoppers. > > > > It's ingenious they have actually figured out how to 'pillage and > > plunder' (make money) while seeming disempowering everyone AND (almost > > ) making them feel good about it! While everything is moved to India. > > > > 10 years ago I thought that the fragmentation of the knowlege behind > > TM (Deepak, Pundiji et all) was a bad thing ... now it may work out to > > be the key to it's survival. > > > > JohnY > On a slightly different angle,it looks like there is a > similarity between people saying that you are a sinner and we will > save you and,people saying you arent enlightened and we will show you > the way. Seeing that both are inevitable will save a lot of BS N. Oh - spiritual fundementalism :) I see ;) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Nelson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > > > with. > > > > > > > > > > cheer up > > > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and > failure to > > > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement > as a > > > > reality check. > > > > > > Bob > > > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > > programs who's purpose > > > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > > cult wackos. This is all > > > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > > jobs now a round for > > > the K-mart shoppers. > > > > It's ingenious they have actually figured out how to 'pillage and > > plunder' (make money) while seeming disempowering everyone AND (almost > > ) making them feel good about it! While everything is moved to India. > > > > 10 years ago I thought that the fragmentation of the knowlege behind > > TM (Deepak, Pundiji et all) was a bad thing ... now it may work out to > > be the key to it's survival. > > > > JohnY > On a slightly different angle,it looks like there is a > similarity between people saying that you are a sinner and we will > save you and,people saying you arent enlightened and we will show you > the way. Seeing that both are inevitable will save a lot of BS N. Well sure - the whole enlightenment / ignorance duality is only useful until it's not. Till it's transcended that is. Saying that it's just another ignorant duality doesn't negate relative responsibility, it just makes the BS visible. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > > with. > > > > > > > > cheer up > > > > > > ** > > > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > > > reality check. > > > > Bob > > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of > programs who's purpose > > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of > cult wackos. This is all > > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack > jobs now a round for > > the K-mart shoppers. > > It's ingenious they have actually figured out how to 'pillage and > plunder' (make money) while seeming disempowering everyone AND (almost > ) making them feel good about it! While everything is moved to India. > > 10 years ago I thought that the fragmentation of the knowlege behind > TM (Deepak, Pundiji et all) was a bad thing ... now it may work out to > be the key to it's survival. > > JohnY On a slightly different angle,it looks like there is a similarity between people saying that you are a sinner and we will save you and,people saying you arent enlightened and we will show you the way. Seeing that both are inevitable will save a lot of BS N. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 3, 2005, at 10:24 PM, anonymousff wrote: > I'll present 2 options, feel free to chose: > a. If you have used Vedic match you would have come with better #s. > Your thinking is too linear, the solution comes from a higher > dimension. > > b. The whole cert program is just for PR purpose and more importantly > to check the world consciousness. 550 proves still work needs to be > done. none of the above To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > with. > > > > > > cheer up > > > > ** > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > > reality check. > > Bob > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of programs who's purpose > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of cult wackos. This is all > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack jobs now a round for > the K-mart shoppers. It's ingenious they have actually figured out how to 'pillage and plunder' (make money) while seeming disempowering everyone AND (almost ) making them feel good about it! While everything is moved to India. 10 years ago I thought that the fragmentation of the knowlege behind TM (Deepak, Pundiji et all) was a bad thing ... now it may work out to be the key to it's survival. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
I'll present 2 options, feel free to chose: a. If you have used Vedic match you would have come with better #s. Your thinking is too linear, the solution comes from a higher dimension. b. The whole cert program is just for PR purpose and more importantly to check the world consciousness. 550 proves still work needs to be done. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > with. > > > > cheer up > > ** > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > reality check. > > I am in favor of things that work for the TM movement, and the recert > program will not. Why? Because the price of instruction in the USA is > too high at $2500/pop, and it makes far more sense to have part- time > teachers when the initiation rate is low like now, because the > teachers are not an economic drain on the TMO. Also, you get much > better coverage of the country with many part-time teachers than a > relative handful of full-timers in big cities (apparently only about > 550 teachers have signed up for the recert program). > > By saying that only a few full-time teachers can teach TM, and > guaranteeing (temporarily) a salary of $4K/month, the TMO is > committing itself to an expenditure of $2.2 mil/month (assuming 550 > full-time teachers). The TMO is not publishing current initiation > rates, but I suspect it is no more than 200/month in the USA ; in > order to pay the salaries of 550 full-time teachers, 880 initiations > per month would be necessary, and that does not include the many > other costs of running the TM movement. The TMO has recently sold > several properties, which may have brought in ~$30 mil (only one sale > price was disclosed) > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales , but the burn rate > of having full-time teachers in addition to the expenses associated > with the building plans etc of the TMO means that the money will be > gone in less than a year (and possibly there is no money available at > all if the TMO is spending $40mil on the 40-day 100,000 pundit > project in India that is being talked about), and all those people > who quit their jobs to be full-time teachers will be back to being > part-timers and looking for a job when the TMO pulls the plug on the > salary. > > At one hour and 30 minutes into the 23Mar2005 press conference at > mou.org, Maharishi says that it may take centuries for the pundits to > restore Vedic civilization in India. With the flawed policy making of > the TMO, I think that's a real likely figure unless Maharishi gets > some more practical advisers (and as I have noted, these people have > to come from outside the culty environment of the TMO crackpot mgmt > crew): > > http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_23mar2005prt1_128 > > Bob Brigante > http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "easyone200" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > with. > > > > > > cheer up > > > > ** > > > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > > reality check. > > Bob > The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of programs who's purpose > is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of cult wackos. This is all > that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack jobs now a round for > the K-mart shoppers. easyone - That was a belly laugh!! nothing like a good laugh in the middle of all this s JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach > my own > > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it > today, or > > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else > find > > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > > > > > In message > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course > exactly > > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going > to > > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm > for > > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long > shelf > > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, > logistically and > > > financially. > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one > final > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery > politically > > correct language, of course). > > > > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > > > JohnY > > ** > > Deepak Chopra never became a TM teacher. I didn't know that Bob. I've asked him directly why he left the TMO when he did a book signing at the Himilayan Institute and he said a few sentences about the TMO not standing behind him during the JAMA/Ayruvedic products lawsuits. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > Johny & Bob, > > > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > with. > > > > cheer up > > ** > > The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every > effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to > consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a > reality check. Bob The plan will succeed because the plan is to have a new series of programs who's purpose is to squeeze a few more $ out of what is left of the tiny core of cult wackos. This is all that is going on. Business as usual. First go for the million $ wack jobs now a round for the K-mart shoppers. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- peterklutz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > snip > > > > > > By whining that if this company plan does not > work: Oh man, we will > > > become even greater whiners than we were > before.? > > > > > > > > If you were to approach a real business on the > basis you are > suggesting, then real > > businessmen would question your judgment. If one > has examined the > track record of a > > company and concluded that (according to > universally accepted > principles of business) the > > track record was not good, then one should not be > considered a > "whiner" for stating the > > obvious. > > 'real' businessmen? :-) > > They wouldn't even take the time to state what you > think is the > obvious - they'd just move on. > > Time is money. > > 'universally accepted principles of business' :-) > > Do you think there is world of 'universal agreement' > out there on the > prospects of planned business..? > > What Universe do you live in? > > > > > > > > > > > Full of excitement but with caution? > > > > > > Here's a suggestion: take 2-6 months of one's > regular job to give it a > > > try - whilst ensuring there's enough change on > the account to pay the > > > bills for the selected trial period. > > > > > > If it works - excellent! > > > > > > If not, go back to what one did before. > > > > > > > > Quite a few of us here have performed the > experiment you suggest > (perhaps with more > > excitement than caution).. > > Good for you! I am sure the World is a better place > for it. > > Why spoil this by being whiner..? > > After all - the Prize in the TMO is not $$$ but > Enlightenment. What's enlightenment? > > > > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Personals - Better first dates. More second dates. http://personals.yahoo.com To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Yeah, but if only 50 people in the US are certified to teach then they might make some money. - Original Message - From: Bob Brigante To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 6:24 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]...> wrote: > Johny & Bob,> > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course,> you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such.> but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards> world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with.> > cheer up**The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a reality check.I am in favor of things that work for the TM movement, and the recert program will not. Why? Because the price of instruction in the USA is too high at $2500/pop, and it makes far more sense to have part-time teachers when the initiation rate is low like now, because the teachers are not an economic drain on the TMO. Also, you get much better coverage of the country with many part-time teachers than a relative handful of full-timers in big cities (apparently only about 550 teachers have signed up for the recert program).By saying that only a few full-time teachers can teach TM, and guaranteeing (temporarily) a salary of $4K/month, the TMO is committing itself to an expenditure of $2.2 mil/month (assuming 550 full-time teachers). The TMO is not publishing current initiation rates, but I suspect it is no more than 200/month in the USA ; in order to pay the salaries of 550 full-time teachers, 880 initiations per month would be necessary, and that does not include the many other costs of running the TM movement. The TMO has recently sold several properties, which may have brought in ~$30 mil (only one sale price was disclosed) http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales , but the burn rate of having full-time teachers in addition to the expenses associated with the building plans etc of the TMO means that the money will be gone in less than a year (and possibly there is no money available at all if the TMO is spending $40mil on the 40-day 100,000 pundit project in India that is being talked about), and all those people who quit their jobs to be full-time teachers will be back to being part-timers and looking for a job when the TMO pulls the plug on the salary.At one hour and 30 minutes into the 23Mar2005 press conference at mou.org, Maharishi says that it may take centuries for the pundits to restore Vedic civilization in India. With the flawed policy making of the TMO, I think that's a real likely figure unless Maharishi gets some more practical advisers (and as I have noted, these people have to come from outside the culty environment of the TMO crackpot mgmt crew):http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_23mar2005prt1_128Bob Brigantehttp://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.htmlTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Johny & Bob, > > I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, > you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. > but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with. > > cheer up ** The recert program will fail, without question, as has almost every effort undertaken by the TMO, because of poor planning and failure to consult with level-headed consultants outside of the TM movement as a reality check. I am in favor of things that work for the TM movement, and the recert program will not. Why? Because the price of instruction in the USA is too high at $2500/pop, and it makes far more sense to have part-time teachers when the initiation rate is low like now, because the teachers are not an economic drain on the TMO. Also, you get much better coverage of the country with many part-time teachers than a relative handful of full-timers in big cities (apparently only about 550 teachers have signed up for the recert program). By saying that only a few full-time teachers can teach TM, and guaranteeing (temporarily) a salary of $4K/month, the TMO is committing itself to an expenditure of $2.2 mil/month (assuming 550 full-time teachers). The TMO is not publishing current initiation rates, but I suspect it is no more than 200/month in the USA ; in order to pay the salaries of 550 full-time teachers, 880 initiations per month would be necessary, and that does not include the many other costs of running the TM movement. The TMO has recently sold several properties, which may have brought in ~$30 mil (only one sale price was disclosed) http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html#sales , but the burn rate of having full-time teachers in addition to the expenses associated with the building plans etc of the TMO means that the money will be gone in less than a year (and possibly there is no money available at all if the TMO is spending $40mil on the 40-day 100,000 pundit project in India that is being talked about), and all those people who quit their jobs to be full-time teachers will be back to being part-timers and looking for a job when the TMO pulls the plug on the salary. At one hour and 30 minutes into the 23Mar2005 press conference at mou.org, Maharishi says that it may take centuries for the pundits to restore Vedic civilization in India. With the flawed policy making of the TMO, I think that's a real likely figure unless Maharishi gets some more practical advisers (and as I have noted, these people have to come from outside the culty environment of the TMO crackpot mgmt crew): http://streaming.mou.org/MOU/Mar/wnews_23mar2005prt1_128 Bob Brigante http://geocities.com/bbrigante/updates.html To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > In message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course exactly > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and > > financially. > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one final > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery politically > correct language, of course). > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > JohnY ** Deepak Chopra never became a TM teacher. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/3/05 11:40 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> >> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >>> >>> On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: >>> if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin >> with. >>> >>> Ain't no money in the woods. >> >> or chicks willing to put out > > Gee, you guys are nuts to you think that MMY had been doing all this > for money, chicks or other worldly pleasures you might come up with. > > There are much easier ways to get the above and with just a fraction of > MMY's energy and creativity he could have gotten the same or more > without all the hassle of the TMO. > I agree. The money and chicks were just a fringe benefit. His driving ambition was a cosmic sense of purpose and volcanic creativity. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/3/05 11:29 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: >> on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > >> Many of these 550 people may have given up >> jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would >> be able to support themselves > > You know that to be so or it's a speculation? > Speculation. That's why I said "may have." I don't know anyone's particular situation. Maybe all 550 were just sitting around doing nothing special with no prior commitments. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/3/05 10:51 AM, Peter Sutphen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > --- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > >> It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 >> people may have given up >> jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, >> thinking that they would be >> able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If >> that ends of fizzling out, >> a big chuck of the remaining core may end up >> disillusioned. > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > everything will be fine. > -Peter Oh. Then surely it will be. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Congrats! > > I've been keeping this argument on the shelf myself, you beat me to > using it. > > It's really the final argument - case closed. > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > > > > > > > if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > > with. > > > > > > > > Ain't no money in the woods. > > > > > > or chicks willing to put out > > > > Gee, you guys are nuts to you think that MMY had been doing all this > > for money, chicks or other worldly pleasures you might come up with. > > > > There are much easier ways to get the above and with just a fraction of > > MMY's energy and creativity he could have gotten the same or more > > without all the hassle of the TMO. Or perhaps both sides are part of the same illusion. Crest Jewel provides some insight IMHO. Even when thoroughly eradicated, a great sense of doership can revive again and create a hundred different distractions, if it is once dwelt on again for a moment in the mind, like monsoon rain-clouds driven on by the wind. 309 One should never permit carelessness in one's adherence to God. "Carelessness is death" (Mahabharata 5.42.43) says the Master (Sanatkumara) who was of Brahma's son. 321 Just as the algae cleared off water does not stay off even for a moment, so illusion obscures the sight of even a wise man whose mind is outward-directed. 324 == While original intentions of spiritual regeneration may have been very pure and ispiring, by constantly interacting with charming apsaras* like Jennifer, April and all, as they were in the day, can act like algae even on the realized. "Carelessness is death". *(beautiful damsel of the Kingdom of Heaven ruled by Indra. She tries to test the steadfastness of a sadhaka by way of temptations. Example, Apsara Menaka and Rishi Vishwamitra ) To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > > > > By whining that if this company plan does not work: Oh man, we will > > become even greater whiners than we were before.? > > > > If you were to approach a real business on the basis you are suggesting, then real > businessmen would question your judgment. If one has examined the track record of a > company and concluded that (according to universally accepted principles of business) the > track record was not good, then one should not be considered a "whiner" for stating the > obvious. 'real' businessmen? :-) They wouldn't even take the time to state what you think is the obvious - they'd just move on. Time is money. 'universally accepted principles of business' :-) Do you think there is world of 'universal agreement' out there on the prospects of planned business..? What Universe do you live in? > > > > > > Full of excitement but with caution? > > > > Here's a suggestion: take 2-6 months of one's regular job to give it a > > try - whilst ensuring there's enough change on the account to pay the > > bills for the selected trial period. > > > > If it works - excellent! > > > > If not, go back to what one did before. > > > > Quite a few of us here have performed the experiment you suggest (perhaps with more > excitement than caution).. Good for you! I am sure the World is a better place for it. Why spoil this by being whiner..? After all - the Prize in the TMO is not $$$ but Enlightenment. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Congrats! I've been keeping this argument on the shelf myself, you beat me to using it. It's really the final argument - case closed. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > > > > > if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > > with. > > > > > > Ain't no money in the woods. > > > > or chicks willing to put out > > Gee, you guys are nuts to you think that MMY had been doing all this > for money, chicks or other worldly pleasures you might come up with. > > There are much easier ways to get the above and with just a fraction of > MMY's energy and creativity he could have gotten the same or more > without all the hassle of the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > That people some people will probably be financially ruined by this >program is sad, even though they are, in effect, volunteers. That a >"big chuck of the remaining core may end up disuillusioned" is a good > thing, in my opinion. Why would we wish that they remain bound > up in denial and surrender to a dying cult? > > L B S Again more to the point than I was, LB - this PC psychological manipulation of the spiritual desire to help uplift the consciousness of the world is a very subtle example of using ones ignorance against them and it really pisses me off! Natual and harmonious action this is NOT. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Quite a few of us here have performed the experiment you suggest (perhaps with more > excitement than caution) and consider the current proposal a bad risk, at best. > > L B S Come on Charlie Brown. I promise I won't lift the football away just as you go to kick it. I promise. I know I was funnin' with you in the past, but things are different now. I promise. I am reformed. Its Sat Yuga. Come on Charlie. Kick that football with all your might! For old times sake. Just one more time. Sri Lucy-ji The football is Brahman, the Kicker is Brahman, the ball holder is Brahman, the goal posts are Brahman, the act of kicking is Brahman, the act of taking the ball away is Brahman, so from what stain of duality does thy fear arise? --- from the ancient schultzian sutras To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 people may have given upjobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would beable to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out,a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned.Yeah, but they won't end up disillusioned again! To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you were to approach a real business on the basis you are suggesting, then real > businessmen would question your judgment. If one has examined the track record of a > company and concluded that (according to universally accepted principles of business) the > track record was not good, then one should not be considered a "whiner" for stating the > obvious. > > > > Quite a few of us here have performed the experiment you suggest (perhaps with more > excitement than caution) and consider the current proposal a bad risk, at best. > > L B S Exactly ! I can't even remember how many times I have performed THIS same experiment Unfortunately it is clear to me what manipulation is going on here, under the guise of fulfilling Maharishi's wishes (the best course, there won't be another ... etc.) Seeing and understanding, unattached -- doesn't mean it doesn't hurt the heart. JohnY PS. I've always thought that it wasn't good to use someone's ignorance against them To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Okay, I am replying to my own posting (Frasier, you may not be far > away from seeing a new client ringing your doorbell). > > I was suddenly stung by guilt by the posting below (there may be some > truth to what is said in it) - but consider this: > > You're invited to take up a position in an IT-startup company. The > business plan is wild and as full of holes as prospects for making > everyone a billionaire. > > How to approach this opportunity? Presumable by exercizing due diligence. > > By whining that if this company plan does not work: Oh man, we will > become even greater whiners than we were before.? If you were to approach a real business on the basis you are suggesting, then real businessmen would question your judgment. If one has examined the track record of a company and concluded that (according to universally accepted principles of business) the track record was not good, then one should not be considered a "whiner" for stating the obvious. > > Full of excitement but with caution? > > Here's a suggestion: take 2-6 months of one's regular job to give it a > try - whilst ensuring there's enough change on the account to pay the > bills for the selected trial period. > > If it works - excellent! > > If not, go back to what one did before. Quite a few of us here have performed the experiment you suggest (perhaps with more excitement than caution) and consider the current proposal a bad risk, at best. L B S > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > > Apologies for butting in, but "they" ..? > > > > Who? > > > > The TMO as a rational entity? > > > > The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of > > its own. > > > > People may chose to join the play for while, but to put up ones tent > > on Kurukshetra...? > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > snip > > > > > > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > > > > everything will be fine. > > > > > > > > > > > > Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the > > bargain? > > > > > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Apologies for butting in, but "they" ..? > > Who? > > The TMO as a rational entity? > > The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of > its own. > > People may chose to join the play for while, but to put up ones tent > on Kurukshetra...? Then who will be signing the checksor not? L B S > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > > > everything will be fine. > > > > > > > > Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the > bargain? > > > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, anonymousff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > > > if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin > with. > > > > Ain't no money in the woods. > > or chicks willing to put out Gee, you guys are nuts to you think that MMY had been doing all this for money, chicks or other worldly pleasures you might come up with. There are much easier ways to get the above and with just a fraction of MMY's energy and creativity he could have gotten the same or more without all the hassle of the TMO. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Okay, I am replying to my own posting (Frasier, you may not be far away from seeing a new client ringing your doorbell). I was suddenly stung by guilt by the posting below (there may be some truth to what is said in it) - but consider this: You're invited to take up a position in an IT-startup company. The business plan is wild and as full of holes as prospects for making everyone a billionaire. How to approach this opportunity? By whining that if this company plan does not work: Oh man, we will become even greater whiners than we were before.? Full of excitement but with caution? Here's a suggestion: take 2-6 months of one's regular job to give it a try - whilst ensuring there's enough change on the account to pay the bills for the selected trial period. If it works - excellent! If not, go back to what one did before. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "peterklutz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Apologies for butting in, but "they" ..? > > Who? > > The TMO as a rational entity? > > The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of > its own. > > People may chose to join the play for while, but to put up ones tent > on Kurukshetra...? > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > > snip > > > > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > > > everything will be fine. > > > > > > > > Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the > bargain? > > > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Maybe it was all just April Fools! - Original Message - From: Vaj To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 03, 2005 10:22 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote:> if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards> world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with.Ain't no money in the woods.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
if MMY had that pattern of thinking towardsworld enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with.cheer up---HhmmmTo subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Many of these 550 people may have given up > jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would > be able to support themselves You know that to be so or it's a speculation? >on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out, > a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
Apologies for butting in, but "they" ..? Who? The TMO as a rational entity? The TMO is a stage, a sprititual battle field - it has no existence of its own. People may chose to join the play for while, but to put up ones tent on Kurukshetra...? --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "L B Shriver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > snip > > > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > > everything will be fine. > > > > Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the bargain? > > L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Peter Sutphen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: snip > As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain > everything will be fine. Can you cite a few examples where they have kept up their end of the bargain? L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to > >> happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for > >> this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf > >> life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and > >> financially. > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one final > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery politically > > correct language, of course). > > > It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 people may have given up > jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would be > able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out, > a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned. That people some people will probably be financially ruined by this program is sad, even though they are, in effect, volunteers. That a "big chuck of the remaining core may end up disuillusioned" is a good thing, in my opinion. Why would we wish that they remain bound up in denial and surrender to a dying cult? L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > >> The fact that the Vedic City course is the only > one that's going to > >> happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff > that the enthusiasm for > >> this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to > have a very long shelf > >> life because of its implausibility and > unworkability, logistically and > >> financially. > > > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just > seems to be one final > > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in > flowery politically > > correct language, of course). > > > It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 > people may have given up > jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, > thinking that they would be > able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If > that ends of fizzling out, > a big chuck of the remaining core may end up > disillusioned. As long as the TMO keeps up their end of the bargain everything will be fine. -Peter > > > > > > To subscribe, send a message to: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Or go to: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ > and click 'Join This Group!' > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > __ Yahoo! Messenger Show us what our next emoticon should look like. Join the fun. http://www.advision.webevents.yahoo.com/emoticontest To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip > It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 people may have given up > jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would be > able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out, > a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned. But in reality, and with a view that new teachers must be +30 and existing teachers are in the 50-70s, how many would take such a blind leap of faith without reflecting on the possible outcomes before doing so? I am sure they're all aware of wonderfully crazy things at times goes.. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ?JohnY---Thank you.To subscribe, send a message to:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/and click 'Join This Group!' To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to:http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: > > > if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with. > > Ain't no money in the woods. or chicks willing to put out To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
on 4/3/05 8:33 AM, jyouells2000 at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: >> >> The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to >> happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for >> this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf >> life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and >> financially. > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one final > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery politically > correct language, of course). > It could do more harm than good. Many of these 550 people may have given up jobs, sold houses, etc. to become full time, thinking that they would be able to support themselves on $4,000 a month. If that ends of fizzling out, a big chuck of the remaining core may end up disillusioned. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
On Apr 3, 2005, at 11:06 AM, anonymousff wrote: > if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards > world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with. Ain't no money in the woods. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find > this as bizarre as I do? > > JohnY * I believe the word "technically" is very important here. L B S To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own > > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or > > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find > > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > > > JohnY > > > > > > > > In message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course exactly > > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to > > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for > > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf > > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and > > financially. > > I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one final > stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery politically > correct language, of course). > > PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? > > JohnY Johny & Bob, I'm surprised by your negativity towards the rectification course, you would probably call it 'being realistic' or such. but know one thing , if MMY had that pattern of thinking towards world enlightenment then he would have stayed the woods to begin with. cheer up To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "George DeForest" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > . > > > i am not a teacher, so maybe i cant > understand why this pepsi challenge > is painful for so many TM teachers. > > But, it seems pretty simple...if you want > to teach TM so badly, who can stop you > from re-certifying?? Just do it! > > And/or, if you dont really want to bother, > well that choice is there too, no harm no foul. > > you just dont really want to teach TM > as much as you once did, so you just > drop it...what is so weird?? > > the maharishi needs to know: who is > ready to get out there and teach, right now! > > i think he has a right to know this. > the choice is yours (each one's) > George, I have read your posts here and in alt.mediation.transcendental for a long time - clear, accurate, level ... but I haven't made myself clear, I guess. I wonder if Maharishi is going to teach the recertification course like he taught the millionares courses? In order to teach there must be people who want to learn. Pratically at $2400 there are no students. The need to know who is ready to teach is met by the "teach full time and we'll pay you" plan. The recertification is just an expensive pileing on. BTW, I'm not really worried about teaching the kids (if the student is ready - the teacher will...), it's just the principle of it. JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Bob Brigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own > > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or > > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find > > this as bizarre as I do? > > > > JohnY > > > > In message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 > the Atlanta Raja says that: > > "Currently it appears that there will not be another course exactly > like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." > > The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to > happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for > this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf > life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and > financially. I know that it will fall apart, Bob. It's just seems to be one final stab at what was the heart of the TMO (couched in flowery politically correct language, of course). PS. I wonder if Deepak and Punditji are planning on going ? JohnY To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[FairfieldLife] Re: Reminded of April 4th deadline
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jyouells2000" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I was just thinking about tomorrow. Technically I can't teach my own > children the Trancendental Meditation Program unless I do it today, or > go on the upcomming 'Recertification Course'. Does anyone else find > this as bizarre as I do? > > JohnY In message http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/46962 the Atlanta Raja says that: "Currently it appears that there will not be another course exactly like the 15 day and 30 day courses starting April 4." The fact that the Vedic City course is the only one that's going to happen, and it's not full, should be a tipoff that the enthusiasm for this recert program is "muted," and unlikely to have a very long shelf life because of its implausibility and unworkability, logistically and financially. To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
