[Finale] Fin2k5b - Problems in loading Bill Duncan's chord library pack
Just after having read the very sad new about Bill's passing away, I ask about a problem I'm having loading his Chord library package, which I recently bought. I did as he wrote on the tutorial Chord Tips.pdf (page 3) to load the new library (save the present library, delete all the suffixes then load Bill's Chords.lib library). When I come to assigning a new suffix (chord manual input, advanced, select) nothing shows in the suffix panel! I see that ChordSym and ChordSuf fonts are installed in my system. The strange thing is that Bill talks about ChordSym/Suf.lib file but I see only a Chords.lib file in the folder I got from Bill. Is it the same file? Any hint appreciated. Thanks Marcello ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2k5b - Problems in loading Bill Duncan's chord library pack
On Dec 18, 2006, at 5:13 AM, themark wrote: Just after having read the very sad new about Bill's passing away, I ask about a problem I'm having loading his Chord library package, which I recently bought. I did as he wrote on the tutorial Chord Tips.pdf (page 3) to load the new library (save the present library, delete all the suffixes then load Bill's Chords.lib library). When I come to assigning a new suffix (chord manual input, advanced, select) nothing shows in the suffix panel! It sounds like the library didn't load for some reason, or that the library you DID load did not contain suffixes. Try again. Try some different things, too. You should know that libraries are NOT cross-platform compatible, and it wouldn't surprise me if they stopped being cross-version compatible at some point. The best procedure, IMO, is to save the library yourself from a document that already has the chord suffixes (suffices?) in it, and then load THAT library. I see that ChordSym and ChordSuf fonts are installed in my system. The strange thing is that Bill talks about ChordSym/Suf.lib file but I see only a Chords.lib file in the folder I got from Bill. Is it the same file? Sorry, I don't know. Anyone else out there? Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Smart line bug in 2007a?
At 02:38 AM 12/18/2006, dc wrote: But then, I was using VERTICAL smart lines (brackets, actually). So the logic of all this completely escapes me in this particular case. I don't think it matters if you were *using* the smart shape vertically -- Finale still stores L and R attachment points. In this case, the values happen to be the same. If you move an endpoint of a smart shape horizontally, you are changing the base definition of the shape and it will move in the score and parts. By the way, try taking an unlinked smart shape in a part and dragging it diagonally down and to the right. You'll notice that the shape in the score only moves horizontally to the right -- Finale is still able to store the different vertical displacements from the new attachment points. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Fin2k5b - Problems in loading Bill Duncan's chord library pack
Hmm. In Document Options you have the font selected there as well? themark wrote: Just after having read the very sad new about Bill's passing away, I ask about a problem I'm having loading his Chord library package, which I recently bought. I did as he wrote on the tutorial Chord Tips.pdf (page 3) to load the new library (save the present library, delete all the suffixes then load Bill's Chords.lib library). When I come to assigning a new suffix (chord manual input, advanced, select) nothing shows in the suffix panel! I see that ChordSym and ChordSuf fonts are installed in my system. The strange thing is that Bill talks about ChordSym/Suf.lib file but I see only a Chords.lib file in the folder I got from Bill. Is it the same file? Any hint appreciated. Thanks Marcello ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: cues
Actually, the most pathological case is when there is all of the above *plus* clef changes for the cue. You have to create a separate staff style to hide the clef change, and this creates a whole new set of challenges. The easiest staff style is a transposition that does nothing but set the clef. wouldn't it be easier to coordinate by setting up the clef staff style for the parts already with transpositions? C treble, C bass, C alto, Bb treble, Bb bass, same for F... etc. as needed. with the 1st 7 styles you would solve the majority of the cases and don't have to deal with double-transpositions. you also don't really have to think about it, apply the combined transposition/clef style you want it to show as. and since the cues don't show in the score, you could do this directly in the score (with display in C off) before applying the hide cue style for the score. then in parts, turn on colours, show staff styles and names, and do the old switcheroo (the oldest trick in the book, 86) to the appropriate measures with the show-cue/hide layer 1 full measure rest. But such staff styles are required to be assigned to full measures, and if the instrument is transposing you have to have a special transposing staff style with the force clef. It can lead to some serious outside-the-shipping-carton thinking. you can erase staff styles from partial measures, although this only works in around 98% of the cases i have tried it in, can't figure out why in the other 2% it doesn't work. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: linked parts: cues
On 12/18/06, shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: with the 1st 7 styles you would solve the majority of the cases You also need octave transposition ones for double bass, in particular. The problem is certainly not intractable: just a bit messy. Remember, for cues you will likely need clef changes even for instruments that do not usually have clef changes, like Eb Alto Sax, A Clarinet, and Piccolo. Btw, if you use C scores, this plan fails entirely. I have been toying with going back to C scores, esp. for chamber works. In these cases, I actually leave Display in Concert Pitch off and have a transposed copy of each staff of each transposing instrument. The score shows only the non-transposing staves while the parts for the transposing instruments show the transposed staves. It is a compromise, but a pretty decent compromise, esp. if only a few staves transpose. you can erase staff styles from partial measures, although this only works in around 98% of the cases i have tried it in, Even if you manage to pierce one of the many chinks in Finale's armor and erase a partial measure of a clef-transposing style, it does you no good. If the staff style is assigned at the beginning of the measure, clef changes are suppressed throughout the measure. And I believe I recall that if you assign it not at the beginning it has no effect: or wierd effects. Plugins can easily assign any staff style to any partial measure, and I played with this awhile back. I prefer to find workarounds that exploit Finale's documented feature set rather than those that exploit quirky behaviors that easily may not survive in the next release. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: linked parts: cues
with the 1st 7 styles you would solve the majority of the cases You also need octave transposition ones for double bass, in particular. but then you could simply cough cough transpose the cue. Remember, for cues you will likely need clef changes even for instruments that do not usually have clef changes, like Eb Alto Sax, A Clarinet, and Piccolo. yeah sure, but the majority of the cases would ne quick and dirty. piccolo can be transposed an octave as well. unless you are using 8ve-treble and 8vb-bass clefs, then you would in fact have to defined even more styles. it is so widespread to NOT use those little 8-clefs anyways (the greater the reduction the conductor score, the more they get lost in the deatil in any case) that this is not an issue for me, i don't use them. Btw, if you use C scores, this plan fails entirely. yes too many things that don't work properly or at all; fortunately it is still widely-accepted and even appreciated when you provide transposed scores to conductors. the piece i am working on has massive microtonal glissandi, often arou dthe same pitches, so it would be (would have been) good for a C-score to better visualize this. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: copying hide/show smart shapes
when i place a smart shape (dotted tempo accel. line) in the score, cmd-ctl-clik and make it hide in the score but show in all parts, it works fine, but when copying to another staff (mass edit tool) the smart shape is hidden in the score AND in the part of the target staff. is it intentional that it functions this way? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: linked parts: cues
On 12/18/06, shirling neueweise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: but then you could simply cough cough transpose the cue. Transposing the cue is a separate issue from hiding the clef changes. To hide clef changes you need to have a staff style that forces bass clef *and* transposes an octave. The only way this would not matter is if the region where the cue is contains no actual notes in the part. If you ever actually need to do this you'll see what I mean. I am aware of it only because I am working on a piece with double bass right now. (My double bass staff is a transposing staff.) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Microtones
the piece i am working on has massive microtonal glissandi, often arou dthe same pitches, so it would be (would have been) good for a C-score to better visualize this. Just being curious, if you write microtones, does Finale play them back? Is there a way to 'wrongly' tune an instrument, say a violin which has to play the notes as written but 2 comma's lower? Best regards, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] The Manual
With respect to opening the manual for Finale, you wrote earlier that you converted the ~.pdf files to ~.rtf format. Based upon that statement, if it were me, here's what I'd do. Hello Noel, Thank you very much for your help. I tried to do today what you were saying. I did everything right, at least I could follow all the steps. The manual still doesn't open. Did anyone else had this problem before too? Is it possible that there is something wrong with my copy. This really begins to annoy me enormously. With best regards, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] The manual addendum
Just to see, I went to the GPO site and copied Darcy's manual, which is in PDF. This manual opened immediately without any ado whatsoever. So, there is nothing wrong with my Adobe Reader. I do not understand this. Best, Will - Copy addresses and emails from any email account to Yahoo! Mail - quick, easy and free. Do it now... ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] The Manual
Hi Will, Obviously you should not have modified the User Manual files. You can do a custom re-install of Finale that includes just the User Manual, and that's what I suggest you do. You can then open the User Manual from the Help menu in Finale. You may also want to try installing Adobe Reader 8 before you do this. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 18 Dec 2006, at 1:25 PM, Will Denayer wrote: With respect to opening the manual for Finale, you wrote earlier that you converted the ~.pdf files to ~.rtf format. Based upon that statement, if it were me, here's what I'd do. Hello Noel, Thank you very much for your help. I tried to do today what you were saying. I did everything right, at least I could follow all the steps. The manual still doesn't open. Did anyone else had this problem before too? Is it possible that there is something wrong with my copy. This really begins to annoy me enormously. With best regards, Will Send instant messages to your online friends http:// uk.messenger.yahoo.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: Microtones
the piece i am working on has massive microtonal glissandi... Just being curious, if you write microtones, does Finale play them back? apparently, but i never use playback. ever. the music i am usually involved in simply has too much that cannot be replicated by the computer. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: cues
The only way this would not matter is if the region where the cue is contains no actual notes in the part. yeah that is what i was talking about, i don't need partial measure cues and don't have the time to even try it out, so haven't noticed the problem. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Test -- Am I Back?
Just posting to see if my subscription is back (my ISP let my domain expire over the weekend -- GRR). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Finale 2007a Mac is out
This is at the start of the bug fixes section. The list is a list of descriptions of bugs fixed in 2k7a. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Andrew Stiller Sent: Friday, December 15, 2006 11:40 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2007a Mac is out On Dec 15, 2006, at 8:18 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: The Read Me is incorrect. Stem Connections are accessible. A great relief, if true. To be specific, am I to understand that the ReadMe assertion that Document Options * Stem Connections cannot be created, edited, or deleted on PowerMacs. is untrue in every particular, so that, if/when I install 2K7a on my pre-intel Mac I *will* be able to create, edit, and/or delete stem connections? If the ReadMe is correct, I would consider this a deal-breaker. I purchased 2K7 a while back but have not installed it because it is so buggy. If even 2K7a will not let me, for example, create a correct stem connection for an X-shaped notehead, then the program is useless for me and I will have to continue to rely on 2K4--itself no prize. Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://home.netcom.com/~kallisti/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Buggy Finale 2007 printing problem
Andrew Stiller wrote ... I purchased 2K7 a while back but have not installed it because it is so buggy. Speaking of buggy 2007... I was in Andrew's camp until I bought a new machine (Windows), and rather than fool with the de-registration, etc., I just installed the 2007 a month ago November. As I reported on Thanksgiving eve, files I created anew in 2007 would print only postage-sized pages. I could print a few normal pages if I started off printing one page at a time, but if I tried to print a whole document, then even going back to one page at a time results in the posage stamps. Cutting down to 300 DPI ges me double size the postage-samp. This is not a printer driver problem, as I get the same results on laser and inkjet, and the same for CutePDF output. Only saving to TIF output works correctly. Files begun in an earlier version of Finale and modified in Win2007 print correctly. Thanks for any suggestions (beyond my solution, which is stick to 2006...) Raymond Horton ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: copy page layout
is there a way to copy the layout - # measures per system and system spacing - from one part to another? please tell me there is. would be a shame if this didn't get implemented, now, wouldn't it? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] countdown (upgrade)
hey robert, i haven,t gotten around to paying my upgrade yet and now i'm getting the countdown have to wait 10s each time i invokle PI... wonder if i can get a week or so grace, in the midedl of massive project, dont have head/time for this right now... sorry, been meaning to deal, as soon as i can breath i'll settle up. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: countdown (upgrade)
oh shit nice, way to go chippewa you internet-amateur. well, obviously meant to be a private message. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Re: countdown (upgrade)
Hate to disappoint you, Jef, but this was nowhere as interesting as the one that described someone's plans to... From: shirling neueweise Sent: Mon 18-Dec-06 19:38 To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] Re: countdown (upgrade) oh shit nice, way to go chippewa you internet-amateur. well, obviously meant to be a private message. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: copy page layout
also measure widths of course. i thought i could do this with TGTools, but it won't load the measure range i select. (opened PI in score, switched to source part and selected range before pressing copy) is there a way to copy the layout - # measures per system and system spacing - from one part to another? please tell me there is. would be a shame if this didn't get implemented, now, wouldn't it? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Re: linked parts: copy page layout
also measure widths of course. i thought i could do this with TGTools, but it won't load the measure range i select. (opened PI in score, switched to source part and selected range before pressing copy) actually i doscovered it does load them all, it just doesn't display the right number of loaded measures... possibly because of measures which aredefined to not show in measure ranges... -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
RE: [Finale] Re: countdown (upgrade)
Hate to disappoint you, Jef, but this was nowhere as interesting as the one that described someone's plans to... yeah certainly not terribly interesting (especially in comparison) but embarrassing nonetheless. -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Re: linked parts: copy page layout
Hi Jef - Nope. Not possible so far. Waiting for someone to write a plugin that would do this, if that is even possible. This is a big argument for separate parts. I am hovering between the two systems - have been for months now. Each has advantages and disadvantages for my work. When the parts layout can be copied from part to part, then linked parts will win. Until then - it's a draw. Chuck On Dec 18, 2006, at 4:17 PM, shirling neueweise wrote: is there a way to copy the layout - # measures per system and system spacing - from one part to another? please tell me there is. would be a shame if this didn't get implemented, now, wouldn't it? -- shirling neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://newmusicnotation.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Chuck Israels 230 North Garden Terrace Bellingham, WA 98225-5836 phone (360) 671-3402 fax (360) 676-6055 www.chuckisraels.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Edit Margins DB still not working on Core 2 Duo Macs
Hello Allen, List, A few months ago, someone on the list (Eric, I think) mentioned that the Edit Margins dialog box was not working on Intel Macs using the Core 2 Duo chipset. I just got a new Core 2 Duo MacBook Pro, and I can confirm that this dialog STILL isn't working on the new Mac in Fin2007a. Obviously, this is a MASSIVE problem for all Mac Core 2 Duo owners. I'm happy that the Kontakt 2 Player update now allows for native FinGPO playback, but that doesn't really make up for an essential dialog box that won't open at all. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Edit Margins DB still not working on Core 2 Duo Macs
Yup. It is a painhopefully it won't be a regular thing.. Darcy James Argue wrote: Hey Eric, So it does... thanks for the invaluable tip! (Although I truly loathe having to rebuild my prefs from scratch all the time... ) Cheers, - Darcy ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] OT: Two PC questions
Before I ask this question, I just wanted to say I was deeply moved by Karen's post about Bill whom I never had a chance to know. Anyway, I am in a situation that I have to make old HP Vectra P450MHz/ 512MB/USB1.0 work with Plextor PX-740UF to have DVD movie playback. It didn't come with DVD movie viewer so I downloaded VLC. It terribly stutters, both video and audio. Totally unusable. Question 1: Do you think buying USB2.0 PCI would solve this problem? Do I need to purchase WinDVD? Any other alternative for DVD movie player? Question 2: Having my wife's Thinkpad dead, I need to buy her a new one sometime soon. She likes new HP with huge display and more importantly 10 keypad, which is a nice feature. They are quite expensive for what I can afford. I have been away from PC market too long and I don't know who is running well these days after my favorite IBM is gone. Is Toshiba still doing well? I tried Sony in a store and I still don't like it. HP notebook is something I never considered a few years ago. Are they good? I am looking for advise from someone who has experiences with different kinds of notebook PCs. Thanks in advance. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
