[Finale] courtesy accidentals

[Linda Worsley]

Fin Mac 2014.5
How do I make a courtesy accidental?

Thanks!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Mac 2014.5 confusion

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks for this one!  Much appreciated.

Linda

On Sat, Feb 18, 2017 at 10:05 PM, Chuck Israels <cisra...@comcast.net>
wrote:

> Linda, Hide empty staves is in the staff tool.
> In page view, right click (or control click) on the handle of the staff
> system you want to affect. Double click to select all staves. A dialogue
> box will appear with choices, including "Hide Empty Staves."
>
> Don't know the answer to the other question, but it would be useful to me
> too.
>
> Chuck
>
> Chuck Israels
> (360) 201-3434
> Sent from my iPad
>
> > On Feb 18, 2017, at 9:36 PM, Linda Worsley <li...@lworsley.com> wrote:
> >
> > I'm feeling brain dead.  I can't find some of the commands and menu items
> > I've been used to.
> > It's very disorienting!  These are things I have used for years, and
> cannot
> > locate in the version of Finale Mac 2014
> >
> > Where is the "hide empty staves"?
> >
> > Where is the command to keep the staff spacing you made in scroll view
> when
> > you go to page view  I think I remember that it was something like
> "retain
> > spacing in page view" but I'm probably wrong.
> >
> > I am using command x to delete just the notes in a single measure (or
> more
> > than one) when there is notation in the other staves.
> >
> > I've been using this version right along, and then went to template I
> > haven't used before and I can't find any of these commands.  Please help!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Linda Worsley
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> > I'm feeling brain dead.  I can't find some of the commands and menu items
> > I've been used to.
> > It's very disorienting!  These are things I have used for years, and
> cannot
> > locate in the version of Finale Mac 2014
> >
> > Where is the "hide empty staves"?
> >
> > Where is the command to keep the staff spacing you made in scroll view
> when
> > you go to page view  I think I remember that it was something like
> "retain
> > spacing in page view" but I'm probably wrong.
> >
> > I am using command x to delete just the notes in a single measure (or
> more
> > than one) when there is notation in the other staves.
> >
> > I've been using this version right along, and then went to template I
> > haven't used before and I can't find any of these commands.  Please help!
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Linda Worsley
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[Finale] Mac 2014.5 confusion

[Linda Worsley]

I'm feeling brain dead.  I can't find some of the commands and menu items
I've been used to.
It's very disorienting!  These are things I have used for years, and cannot
locate in the version of Finale Mac 2014

Where is the "hide empty staves"?

Where is the command to keep the staff spacing you made in scroll view when
you go to page view  I think I remember that it was something like "retain
spacing in page view" but I'm probably wrong.

I am using command x to delete just the notes in a single measure (or more
than one) when there is notation in the other staves.

I've been using this version right along, and then went to template I
haven't used before and I can't find any of these commands.  Please help!

Thanks,
Linda Worsley
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[Finale] SILENT PLAYBACK

[Linda Worsley]

Mac finale 2014;.5

Yesterday all the scores I was working on were playing back both in
the playback window and with the shift click method.  Tonight NONE of
them are playing back.  I have no idea where to even star.  The sound
is up on the computer and I'm hearing everything else.  Have I hit a
wrong button somewhere?  I'm just playing back the instruments that
exist in Finale-- I use playback to check my work, not to make
recordings... I just want to hear what I've entered and play back
sections to check them.

Help!

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] move. align notes

[Linda Worsley]

Thans for ALL these tips.  Very useful, and much appreciated!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] move. align notes

[Linda Worsley]

On Wed, Sep 21, 2016 at 2:07 PM, j...@thomastudios.com
 wrote:
> Measure tool.  Once selected, two small handles will appear at the top of the 
> barline, topmost visible system.  Click on the lower handle and you can 
> selectively move notes horizontally.  Just be careful with multi-staved 
> systems.
>
> Is this what you’re asking about?


Not exactly.  I am using two layers.  There is a half note in the top
layer, and two quarters in layer 2.  The quarter note under the half
note is "offset" and if I use the method you describe it does, in fact
, move notes horizontally... but it moves them still offset.

 Just FYI. Interesting discovery, though.  I original had both soprano
line and alto line on layer one, with common stems.  When I removed
the alto notes and added them back in with a a quarter note MOVING
part, the original layer one kept a "ghost" note, so that the new
layer 2 note was offset... offset from the "ghost" note.  To fix it, I
had to delete the entries for the whole measure and re-enter the two
layers, to get rid of the offset.

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[Finale] move. align notes

[Linda Worsley]

Fin Mac 2014.5

I've forgotten how to move or align notes horizontally.. I'm working
in 2 layers, and it's been awhile

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Weird behavior in mac Fin 2012

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks, Robert,

I will try some of those options,and if necessary get oe of my
computer guru sons to assist if I get tangled.

Again, much appreciated.



On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 7:07 PM, Robert Patterson
<rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
> You have 2 choices. You could downgrade, but you'll need backups for that.
> Or you could create a virtual and run Fin12 under the virtual. I use VMWare
> Fusion. Some people like Parallels. There is also a free option, but it
> requires more computer savvy to set it up/
>
> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 9:01 PM, Linda Worsley <li...@ganymuse.com> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Robert Patterson
>> <rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote:
>> > You didn't say if this is a Mac, but I believe Fin12 has this problem in
>> > Yosemite and El Capitain. Have you upgraded recently?
>>
>> Ah, yes. I recently upgraded to El Capitan.  Yikes.  Am I stuck with
>> this behavior in Finale 2012?  Very bad news!
>>
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Re: [Finale] Weird behavior in mac Fin 2012

[Linda Worsley]

On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 6:42 PM, Robert Patterson
 wrote:
> You didn't say if this is a Mac, but I believe Fin12 has this problem in
> Yosemite and El Capitain. Have you upgraded recently?

Ah, yes. I recently upgraded to El Capitan.  Yikes.  Am I stuck with
this behavior in Finale 2012?  Very bad news!

Linda
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[Finale] Weird behavior in mac Fin 2012

[Linda Worsley]

I am baffled by a strange behavior in a Finale 2012.  Very specific.

I have a couple of scores I'm working on where this hassuddenly
started happening.  I go to the expression tools (the one with the mf
as an icon) and click on a place in the score where I want to place a
dynamic or expression.  That is, I double click to get the page open
to select the dynamic or whatever I want.  But the minute I double
click, the page, the whole score, disappears... closeslot of code, is
gone.  Then I get a dialog box that doesn't say what I did wrong, but
tjere os am emote;;gob;e box and a line that says  "This report will
automatically be sent to Apple.  And there's a button to reopen the
page.  I save automatically every few minutes, but worse than losing
recent work, it won't let me enter a dynamic or expression.

Other tools, like text and chord, etc. work just fine.  I double click
to put in  text, and it works perfectly.   All the other clickable
work.  Only the expression tool behaves this way.  And it's the same
on all three scores I'm working on. And since it has been working for
several years until yesterday... Yikes.

Anyone experience this behavior?  I'm not sure what to do at this
point.  I have Finale 2014 (which I don't like) and I guess I could
try opening one of the scores in that later version to see if it's a
Mac problem or a finale problem. I suspect the latter.  But I thought
I'd see if anyone else has dealt with this.

Thanks!

Linda Worsley
Composer
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Re: [Finale] missing simple entry palettes

[Linda Worsley]

got it.
Thanks!
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Re: [Finale] missing simple entry palettes

[Linda Worsley]

I guess I asked it badly.  Actually, I did get the rest palette set in prefs,
but both the rests and the notes disappear every time you go to another
tool.  So if you want it back you have to make an extra "move" to click on
"simple entry" icon in the main palette.  Why would they do that?

My computer interface specialist son tells me that software creators keep
changing things around, adding bells and whistles, altering the graphics
renaming tools, etc. not just to sell new "improved" versions of the
software, but because younger users love variety and are very flexible
about changes.

I hate it when perfectly good, usable  things change just for the sake of
change, but I guess I'll blame it on what my little grandson calls my
"oldness."
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[Finale] missing simple entry palettes

[Linda Worsley]

mysterious behavior:

Using simple entry (have used it for decades with nothing like this... The
simple entry palettes:  tools, notes, and rests, are what I keep on the
left of the screen.  Today, every time I changed a tool in the tool
palette, the other two (notes and less) disappeared and had to be entered
again in the Window menu.  Huh?  Why is that happening after all these
years?  Was it something I said...uh... did?

Completely baffled.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,
Linda
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[Finale] toll icons

[Linda Worsley]

Finale 2012 mac:
Is it possible to revert the icons of the tool display to the "classic" xib
artkw?  I did this in a previous release, but in 2012 I can't find it in
the menus or "preferences or "view" items.

As usual, thanks in advance!.

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] rest autofill

[Linda Worsley]

Perfect!  Thanks!

L.W.
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[Finale] rest autofill

[Linda Worsley]

Fin mac 2012
How do I turn of "automatically fill with rests" in an incomplete measure.

I used to know where it is... can't find it!

Thanks in advance!

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 12 Creating symbol in empty measure

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks, I got it working.

Much appreciated!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 12 Creating symbol in empty measure

[Linda Worsley]

Oops... it suddenly started working!  Thanks!

(I love electronics... when they work.)

Again, thank you!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 12 Creating symbol in empty measure

[Linda Worsley]

Type the letter O where?
Sorry... I selected a measure and went to
staff styles, but... Confused.

Help appreciated, sorry I'm too dense to make it work..

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 12 Creating symbol in empty measure

[Linda Worsley]

And of course I meant "bar line" in the first sentence.  Spellcheck doesn't
recognize it as one word.
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[Finale] Fin Mac 12 Creating symbol in empty measure

[Linda Worsley]

I'm trying to put a repeat sign (not the repeat carline, but the symbol
consisting of the diagonal line with two dots on either side) in an empty
measure.  A "repeat the previous measure" symbol.  But I want to put it in
a measure where it is the only thing displayed. (I have disabled the
"display rests in empty measures, but it doesn't seem to make any
difference anyway.)

Finale will allow me to put an expression into that measure, but I can't
find that symbol in the expression tool menu.  I CAN find it in the
articulation tool menu, but Finale will not let me put an articulation in
an empty measure. I can enter a "hard whole note rest" in those measures,
but I don't want it to show along with the repeat mark.

Strangely, after decades of using Finale,  I have not used this symbol in a
score and I'm not sure how to solve this.

Help!  (and thanks in advance).

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Score Printing Question

[Linda Worsley]

This is very useful.  I'm glad there are some using 11x14 because that
would be my preference.  Legal length is a really bad compromise, and
very crowded, especially with full orchestra, and when adding vocal
parts, it becomes almost unusable.

Thanks to all for sharing.

Linda Worsley
Composer/Arranger




On Fri, Mar 25, 2016 at 5:22 AM, timothy price <timothy.pr...@valley.net> wrote:
>
> On Mar 24, 2016, at 5:54 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
>
>>  tabloid
>> (11x17) is unwieldy, tends to be floppy on many music stands, and doesn't
>> fit in most briefcases.
>
>
> Thank you Lee for telling us about your preferences.
>
>
> Noticed this section of West Side Story recording session.
>
> Watch, starting at 3:40 as Bernstein takes places his score.
> Kiri Te Kanawa - The Making of West Side Story Documentary
>
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SEW63LsaM
>
> He probably uses a separate case, as we use for architectural drawings and 
> the like.
>
> tim
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[Finale] Score Printing Question

[Linda Worsley]

Hi, Finale people,

I am getting some large orchestra scores ready for printing, and it
has been a long time since I outsourced this and had scores printed
and bound by an actual print shop.  This was in the 90s and
pre-digital, ad I know everything has changed.

For the past few decades I have been writing and printing scores and
parts for use in recording sessions, and both traditional legal and
letter size paper, and printing in my own studio laser printer for
that work.  When I have sent scores or parts out for others to print
(other performer grips) I have sent out pdfs of my finale files, but
they were always the usual 81/2 x 11 (or 14) format, and that was fine
for studio work, and, to some degree, for performance.  Parts look
fine in that format, but scores are better in the larger, wider
format.

Now I have recently returned to writing (and re-issuing) some larger
orchestral works, and "legal"-length paper, which is fine for legal
work, is not the best for full orchestra scores.  My old, commercially
printed scores, vary in size and shape, so I'm not sure what would be
best for these new scores.

I wold love information for those of you who are in the U.S. and have
had scores printed in a larger format.  What dimensions do you find
best for large or fairly large full orchestra?  How do you go about
getting them printed and bound.  If you have them done by a commercial
printer, I would be particularly interested in sources in the New
Yokr, L.A., or San Francisco areas.  That said, in this digital age,
these things can be done anywhere, so any information about the
successful procedures done anywhere would be much appreciated.

I suppose providing music for download and print, I will have to stick
with legal-size paper for scores, but I'd like to have the option of a
more usable, readable size and format to make physical scores.

Thanks in advance for any advice or information.

Linda Worsley
Composer/arranger
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[Finale] Fin mac 2012 playback woes

[Linda Worsley]

I haven't been working on finale for about a year.  Now back, using Finale
2012, medium big score, instruments chosen and formatted in Score manager.
So far so good.

When I enter a note, it plays that note in the proper instrument.  Sounds
fine.

When I use the hold-space-bar and click on the score... no sound.

When I open playback window to playback, it scrolls as if it's playing but
there is no sound

I just spent more than an hour following the long sequence of
troubleshooting this problem that I found on the MakeMusic help page.  All
the interim tests in that sequence worked but when I went to play back, by
either spacebar-mouse or Playback window method, I still get no sound.

This after an hour plus of doing everything it said, quitting finale,
throwing away the preferences as instructed and restarting the computer.

But it's still the same... no sound on playback.

I DO get the sound when I enter the note.  That still works.

I have been using Finale since the 1989a and have never had this problem
before.  My computer is fine, my speakers are fine, my headphones are
fine.  But no playback.

HELP!

Linda Worsley
Composer/Arranger
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Re: [Finale] Fin mac 2012 playback woes

[Linda Worsley]

Jeff wrote:

 What does the mixer do when you play back?


What mixer?  I'm just playing the internal instruments selected from the
Score Manager.  It has always been funky and played sometimes and
sometimes not, in the past, but this time it's playing just fine as I enter
the notes (in simple entry, with the mouse) but when I play back  I get
nothing.







 *From: *Linda Worsley
 *Sent: *Friday, August 14, 2015 3:59 PM
 *To: *finale@shsu.edu
 *Subject: *[Finale] Fin mac 2012 playback woes





 I haven't been working on finale for about a year.  Now back, using Finale
 2012, medium big score, instruments chosen and formatted in Score manager.
 So far so good.

 When I enter a note, it plays that note in the proper instrument.  Sounds
 fine.

 When I use the hold-space-bar and click on the score... no sound.

 When I open playback window to playback, it scrolls as if it's playing but
 there is no sound

 I just spent more than an hour following the long sequence of
 troubleshooting this problem that I found on the MakeMusic help page.  All
 the interim tests in that sequence worked but when I went to play back, by
 either spacebar-mouse or Playback window method, I still get no sound.

 This after an hour plus of doing everything it said, quitting finale,
 throwing away the preferences as instructed and restarting the computer.

 But it's still the same... no sound on playback.

 I DO get the sound when I enter the note.  That still works.

 I have been using Finale since the 1989a and have never had this problem
 before.  My computer is fine, my speakers are fine, my headphones are
 fine.  But no playback.

 HELP!

 Linda Worsley
 Composer/Arranger
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Re: [Finale] Whatever happened to Optimise?

[Linda Worsley]

Optimize is now hide empty measures and it's found in the menu bar under
staff (with the staff tool in use) at the bottom of the list.  You muse
select the range of measures hyou want... um... optimized... and it will
hide the empty measures.  It won't hide any empty measures containing
hard whole rests, and sometimes I've had to go through and delete those
that have been put there either inadvertently or with some new helpful
feature of Fiknale.

Finale just can't let well enough alone.  I have become more frustrated
with each new version... I've been using Finale since version zero point
zero in the eighties, and for awhile, each version made beautiful,
intuitive changes.  But not lately.  Finale 2014 for mac is a nightmare in
so many ways.  But it's still better than slogging through making
handwritten scores, so...

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Whatever happened to Optimise?

[Linda Worsley]

Don, sorry for the long rant previously.

There is a fill in rests (or some such) feature that you can turn off,
but that doesn't account for the inadvertent whole rests.  I may be
entering them without knowing, in some way.  But so far, when I finish a
score and want to optimize, I select all, do the hide empty measures
thing, and then go through the score and manual delete delete whatever is
there in the empty measure staves that show up.  there are usually only a
few, but they do mess up the formatting if I don't fix them.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Whatever happened to Optimise?

[Linda Worsley]

Hi, Don,
It's a mystery why sometimes hide empty measures leaves some empty stave
showing.  It's always because there is *something* in those measures.  I
assume it is a stray hard whole rest, but it could be something else.  My
orchestra scores are pretty huge, and in the later finale versions, very
cumbersome to deal with.  Score Manager is unstable (I use playback to
check for errors, and sometimes a staff I have set to trumpet might come
out as kazoo or something, requiring me to go into score manager and fix
it, even though it looks fine. I can't explain that either.

The hard rests?  Not from importing MIDI (which is one of those this way
lies madness things I try to avoid.  I don't really use MIDI unless I'm
writing something that will be recorded and then I generally develop a
tempo map in MIDI to use with pro tools.  But even that has gone south in
the newer versions of finale.  It used to be that we could import a MIDI
file (made from Finale) into ProTools and see all the instruments as
graphics and anticipate when to punch in or anticipate an entry.  I don't
record synthesized instruments, only live.  But it's nice to be able to see
them represented on the screen in ProTools. But the later versions of
Finale create MIDI files a) without instrument names, 2) out of score order
and b) a slew of extra staves--probably from unused Finale layers  It
used to be really simple.  Now it's complicated and it doesn't work.

That, plus a dozen other things about the newer versions are NOT
improvements in my book. I have the same quarrel with a lot of software.
Why do new versions give commands and tools a different name from the last
version (like optimize vs. hide empty measures) and scatter the tools into
unfamiliar menu lists, and why make the graphics of the speedy windows
sexier and harder to read? It used to be that added elements were great,
and showed that the Finale folks were listening to the users. But like some
other programs (MS Word comes to mind) it has gotten so complex, even in
fairly simple use, that it's mind boggling.

Again, I'm complaining about something that has changed my life by freeing
me from the pen/pencil and paper thing.  But it's a mystery why the people
who sit around thinking up ways to make the software better (code for being
able to sell a new version when the old one still work, maybe?) think we
want to relearn programs we are used to and love.

End of rant.

BTW I use simple entry, using a menthol I've developed over the years I use
Speedy for some moves bu Speedy just never spoke to me, though I have
many friends and colleagues who swear by it.

Thanks for listening. Complaints are boring to hear, but sometimes...

Linda
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Re: [Finale] fin.mac.2014

[Linda Worsley]

I think what happens is that one gets used to the way a software works
(especially when it works well) and when menus change, the look changes, or
tools are renamed, it feels unfamiliar and takes getting used to.

I made the mistake of loading up 2014 in the middle of a project, and has
slowed me almost to a stop while I get used to it.  I'll get used to it...
There are enough of the old moves and menus left that there isn't quite
as much confusion as there was when I went to 2012.  Overall, because I am
putting a lot of my old pen or pencil scores into Finale, I'm reminded how
lucky I am to have this software at all.

Linda
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[Finale] fin.mac.2014

[Linda Worsley]

I'm just loading up 2014, upgraded from 2012.  I want to use the classic
design for the icons (small boxed icons, lying outside the score
proper--notes, rests, dynamics, staff, etc.). Is this possible in 2015, and
if so, where do I change them?

Thanks,

Lnda
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Re: [Finale] fin.mac.2014

[Linda Worsley]

On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 2:14 PM, Fiskum, Steve fisk...@jspaluch.com wrote:

 No. Ugh!!


Double ugh!  Why do they keep fixing finale interface when it ain't
broke.



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[Finale] Garritan fin mac 14

[Linda Worsley]

I don't expect a comprehensive outline of how to activate the Garritan
Instant Orchestra which I bought and installed on my computer at the same
time I upgraded and installed fin mac 2014.

But can anyone tell me where on the internet I can find instructions for
activating the instruments.  I am totally baffled.  On the MakeMuisc
(Finale) web site I found a set of instructions that are incomprehensible.
For example, the second instruction given (after close finale) is to
download the file (below) and...

But there is no file below anything.  Nothing to download.

I need a bigger boat.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Losing my way in Finale 2014

[Linda Worsley]

Patsy, I can only offer encouragement, since I'm on a mac.  However, as a
Finale user from the very first release (in what feels like the stone age)
and have upgraded fairly consistently over the years.  I have always
praised Finale with each release for the kind of intuitive improvements
they made--little things, that saved time and worked better than before.

Then I left a gap over a year ago when i installed 2012. I couldn't find
anything I was used to.  A lot of things were better than before, but
many--like changing the names of tools and putting them in a different
menu--made me crazy,  And there were other problems that even the Finale
help site and other forums were of no use.  I'm afraid to install 2014 for
fear that the things I'm currently working on will be delayed by more
changes. This forum has resulted in many, many hints and help, but there
are still some elements that remain a mystery.

In any case, I wish you well with your new computer and the new Finale
Windows version. And I hope there are a lot of Windows users here to guide
you through the thicket of changes!

Best,

Linda

On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 8:35 AM, pa...@mooremusic.org.uk 
pa...@mooremusic.org.uk wrote:

 Dear Listers,

 Greetings from England, and very best wishes for the New Year.

 I started using Finale at version 2.2, back in 1994, and tracked its
 improvements as far as Finale 2000c. With work-rounds that did a good job
 for me
 I produced a great deal of music, much of it for the adult learners'
 orchestra
 that I started in 1995.

 After a major computer crash in November I'm expecting to have a new
 computer
 and Finale 2014 for Windows very soon. I've had a chance to
 trial-and-error it a
 bit already, but not managed to find various things that I used a lot in
 the
 earlier version.  I'm hoping someone can help me to find them, even if
 just by
 telling me what to search on in the on-line help.

 1. How can I increase the number of most recently closed items listed at
 the
 bottom of the File menu (default seems to be 4)?

 2. How can I change the default font for e.g. the number above a
 multi-measure
 rest? I found a specific item for the default music font, but not the
 extensive
 list(s) I expected for all sorts of other elements.

 3. I haven't found a way to respace a number of bars if e.g. I want to
 enlarge a
 multi-measure rest and then space the remaining bars in the line equally.
 I'm
 puzzled that it doesn't seem to be a possibility related to the menu that
 appears when I right click on one of the measure spacing handles. I'm
 sure I
 must be missing something.

 Hopefully...

 Patsy

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 Patsy Moore pa...@mooremusic.org.uk
 Conductor, Arranger etc. Da Capo (Do All Come And Play Orchestra!)
 www.da-capo.org.uk


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Re: [Finale] what did I do?

[Linda Worsley]

 Hold down the metatool (say, 4 for forte) and drag across all the staves
 in the right place.

 Enter one expression, then opt-arrow down to add it to the staff below.
 Repeat as needed.


BRILLLIANT!

I'm really glad I was lurking for this tip.  Thanks. Christopher.

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[Finale] Using two versions at once.

[Linda Worsley]

Anyone else run into this?

I have two versions of Finale on my computer. (Mac) 2012 and 2014.  I have
two clients, one using 2012 and the other 2014.  Opening 2012 in 2014
should not be a problem, but is it possible to launch 2012 and open the
first client's files in that version so that if I have to send it back with
alterations or suggestions, it will stay in that version and not
automatically open or save in 2014?

I haven't had this situation before, and I'm not sure how to pull it off.

Thanks for any clues!

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Using two versions at once.

[Linda Worsley]

Very helpful!  Thanks.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Joining the Mac world

[Linda Worsley]

 nope, just an operating system that the folks at finale have told me
 is redundant if i want to keep using their products...

 Now I'm curious.  Are you saying it's an old system that won't support new
Finale versions, or that you can't install it on more than one computer?

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Score Manager: a sound for expressions?

[Linda Worsley]

 Maybe can I hear a specific sound for a symbol like forte,
 crescendo, and so on? Why should I want it?

 I want it because I make a lot of rehearsal tracks (usually for singers).
 It saves time in the studio when they can hear what they will be up
against with the live players.

It doesn't hve to be perfect, but if the dynamics are too weird, it's not
very useful.

Linda worsley
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[Finale] Silent Staff

[Linda Worsley]

Fin mac 2012.

I have an orchestral score I'm working on that has one staff (Second
violins) that does not sound.  It has all the same settings in the score
manager as Violin I.  All the strings are  in several layers, Layer 1 arco,
layer 2 pizz, etc. and the second violin part is playing in the other
layers, but in layer 1 (arco) it is completely without sound.  I have
looked for somewhere that it might be muted in that layer, but can't find
anything.

Anyone know what is going on here?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] FM2014 won't open all FM2014 or earlier files

[Linda Worsley]

I've had my problems with 2012, especially a lot of the seemingly random
and arbitrary assignment of tool names and some familiar functions.  But
from what I'm hearing, I'm going to hold off on 2014.
I'm still trying to get 2012 to behave.

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] staff spacing problem

[Linda Worsley]

I've forgotten how to tell the score to use the same spacing in page view
as in scroll view.

Fin mac 2012

I have taken out three staves out of a fairly large scoer (instruments I've
decided not to use) and I respaced the staves in scroll few the way I want
them.  But now I can't remember how to tell page view to retain that
spacing.  the page has great gaps where the deleted staves used to be, and
I really don't want to reformat every page individually.  I know there is a
command somewhere that says something like retain staff spacing in page
view, but I can't find it.

Any help much appreciated...

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] fin mac 2012 Retain instrument names in MIDI?

[Linda Worsley]

Anybody know how to retain instrument names when converting into and then
out of MIDI?

The names are coming out with SmartMusic on every staff. and since they are
out of order, I don't know which is which.

Help!

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Re: [Finale] fin mac 2012 Retain instrument names in MIDI?

[Linda Worsley]

How does one change the names of the instruments?  Do you mean in the Score
Manager window, or is there somewhere else?

Thanks so much for helping.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] fin mac 2012 Retain instrument names in MIDI?

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks, Phil!

Linda

On Thu, Oct 10, 2013 at 5:04 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:
 Sorry, I meant to say...   It's the left-hand column in the score-manager.

 Phil.

 At 01:29 PM 10/10/2013, you wrote:
How does one change the names of the instruments?  Do you mean in the Score
Manager window, or is there somewhere else?

Thanks so much for helping.

Linda
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[Finale] Finale to MIDI to ProTools?

[Linda Worsley]

For decades I have gone into my favorite recording studio with MIDI files
made from Finale--usually orchestra scores.

When the MIDI files have been imported into ProTools, they come through
with tempos intact, the order of the instruments intact, and even the
instrument names.

I'm now working in a newer version of Finale (mac 2012) and the MIDI files
are a mess.  The instrument order is scrambled, and none of them carry the
instrument names... which we use to cue in overdubs, crossfade, fixes, etc.

I am simply converting the Finale file to standard MIDI as I have always
done, but for some reason they come through completely garbled.  The tempos
seem OK, so we can use it as a tempo map, but the rest is a mess.  Usually
we can see the instruments and groups coming up on the screen during
playback.

Are any of you familiar with this process?

Also, when I convert the MIDI file BACK to Finale, I get the same thing.
 Instrument sounds are mis-applied and the score order is totally screwed.

I'm hoping there's an expert out there who can help... in any case,
HELP!

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] scrambled tracks in MIDI from Finale file

[Linda Worsley]

I have just converted a large, long score from Finale into MIDI, and
for reasons I won't bother you with, I need the tracks that come back
into Finale to stay in the order they had in the original score.
There are a lot of tempo changes, ritards, etc., and those all came
through perfectly.  But the tracks are all out of order.  I can fix
it.

But is there a way to make them stay in the same order when converted?
 I don't see any check boxes that say keep the tracks in original
score order or anything like that.  Is there a secret method that
will work for this?

Thanks!

Linda Worsley

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Re: [Finale] scrambled tracks in MIDI from Finale file

[Linda Worsley]

Your English is perfect, Barbara.
Thank you for the suggestion.  I'll try that!

Linda

On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Barbara Touburg btoub...@online.nl wrote:
 On 4-10-2013 19:20, Linda Worsley wrote:
 But is there a way to make them stay in the same order when converted?

 Maybe the playback channels control the order of the staves. Try to
 choose the channels in the same order as the staves. Excse my poor English.

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Re: [Finale] Finale Digest, Vol 123, Issue 2

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks for the tip.  I'll try it!

Much appreciated.

Linda

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[Finale] fin mac '12 rit and tempo problems

[Linda Worsley]

I cannot find help online for either of these things:

1.  I seem to be stuck with tempo changes embedded in the MIDI file I
imported into Finale.

I have gone to the edit window and cleared selected items and cleared
continuous date, performance data, and tempo changes.

It's all still there. on playback (either with the playback window or
by clicking the specific region)

How do I REALLY clear the tempo map so I can start over?

2.  Since using this version I have been unable to program any
ritards.  Even by incremental tempo indications using the expression
tool.  The expression tool will not let me put in mid-measure tempos.
they all revert to the beginning of the measure.

the help menu does not give me any help for either problem.  It
won't even tell me how to create a rit.  I can give a rit. a specific
tempo, but I used to make gradual ritards graphically.  Can't find how
to do that in this version of Finale.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Linda Worsley

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[Finale] Sound files from Finale

[Linda Worsley]

eons ago, when I was using an older version of Finale, I used to be able to
create mp3 sound files from the scores, or maybe it was from MIDI, I don't
remember.  But I remember doing it.

Now I have a client who wants a sound file (mp3) from the score I have
entered into Finale.  And I can't remember even the first step.

Does anyone do this?  I can't find any help in the... well, help file.
 And my vision is poor, so I have a hard time reading a lot of
instructions.  Is there an easy way?  A hard way?  Any way... to do this?

Thanks,
Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] Sound files from Finale

[Linda Worsley]

Worked like a charm!

Thanks a million!

Linda


On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 7:59 PM, Phil Buglass bloke...@comcast.net wrote:

  From the file menu, export as audio file.   If
 the file is midi, you get the choice of mp3 or
 wav file.  If VST, you can only export a wav
 file.   I do that, and use another program to convert to mp3.

 Phil.

 At 10:45 PM 9/26/2013, you wrote:
 eons ago, when I was using an older version of Finale, I used to be able
 to
 create mp3 sound files from the scores, or maybe it was from MIDI, I don't
 remember.  But I remember doing it.
 
 Now I have a client who wants a sound file (mp3) from the score I have
 entered into Finale.  And I can't remember even the first step.
 
 Does anyone do this?  I can't find any help in the... well, help file.
   And my vision is poor, so I have a hard time reading a lot of
 instructions.  Is there an easy way?  A hard way?  Any way... to do this?
 
 Thanks,
 Linda Worsley
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[Finale] spacebar click playback not working

[Linda Worsley]

why is my score playing back just fine when I use the playback window, but
if I just want to check a single measure or page (using the spacebar click
method) nothing happens?

This is new.  Hasn't happened before.  Did I turn something off?

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Re: [Finale] typing in music symbols

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks to all for pointing me at some sources.  I'm aware of the baseline
problems and just deal with them as they come up, by a variety of editing
tricks.  But I'm having trouble finding a keystroke for fortissimo (ff).
 If I use the one in the chart I get fff so I don't quite know what to do
about that.  I've been using maestro, but maybe I'll see if engraver has
its head on straight.

Thanks again!

Linda
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[Finale] Missing instruments in score manager.

[Linda Worsley]

So I made this really nice looking score.  Not my music, just making a good
finale copy of the orchestration.Woodwinds, brass, everything all in
place.  Between the winds and strings there are two keyboard instruments...
grouped, bracketed, etc.  One appears just as it should in the score
manager, with both staves showing.  The second one not only does not appear
at all... it plays back the instrument assigned to the keyboard instrument
above it. both staves in the top keyboard play back correctly.  But the
no-staff-in-score-manager keyboard part plays the same sound.  It's just
missing from SM so I can't change the MIDI channel, can't assign anything
to it, can't even see it.  Except in the Finale score (both scroll and page
view)

Is this something I did wrong?  Has anyone else had this happen?

Linda Worsley
(hating 2012, since it's ALL CHANGED...ARRRGGGHH)
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[Finale] no sound

[Linda Worsley]

I just made a new file for String Quartet, and began writing... but there
is no sound.  I have explored HELP and looked for something to turn on, but
can;t find any way to make it play back.

I have tried setting playback in various places, but nothing is working.
 All my other finale files play back just fine.  And I only use playback to
proof and listen for mistakes, not to do anything fancy in the way of
performance.  I just want to use the usual internal instruments and hear
the notes.

Where do I go to make this file play

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] no sound

[Linda Worsley]

Duh!  I should have said.  It's finale mac 2012.

All my other finale files play, but many of those were created in Fin mac
2010.  I imported them into 2012 and they play just fine.  Only this new
one that I created from the template will not play.  I finally did get it
to play--sort of.  But unless I pump up the basic volume to ridiculously
high number, I can barely hear it.

Very puzzling, as all those old files play beautifully.

Thanks for taking time to answer.
Linda
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[Finale] add staff

[Linda Worsley]

Mac, Finale 2012 change.
In 2010 we could add a staff in a score (in this case I have to add another
violin staff to an existing score, between the first vlm. and viola.  I can
add it in scroll view and it comes up in page view pretty much intact.  But
there is no way to sort staves so that it can be dealt with in score
manager--and probably some other implications.

What is the procedure to do this and make the score believe that it's there
and it belongs there?  I can't find any help on help.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [Finale] add staff

[Linda Worsley]

Alas, no reorder staves in 2012 staff menu.

but I'll try this:

Thanks!

Linda

On Fri, Feb 8, 2013 at 9:29 PM, SN jef chippewa 
shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote:


 you can move the instruments in the score manager VERY easily:
 click-drag the instrument name in the list


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[Finale] transposing in score mac 2012

[Linda Worsley]

Finale 2012 MAC

I used to know how to do this when I was using 2010.

 I have been sent a big score with all the instruments in concert pitch.
 The client wants them transposed (the usual...horn, clarinet, etc.)

In 2010 I could open the staff dialog box and ask that the part be
transposed, and in what way.

Now I can't find any way to do that in an existing score.  HELP!

And thanks!

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] transposing in score mac 2012

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Thanks, all!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Score Manager

[Linda Worsley]

Wow, Mike, you have made me feel like I'm not going insane after all!

I, too, hate the score manager.  And a lot of other things in 2012 that
didn't need fixing, but got fixed anyway, and ...

And like you, I waste a hell of a lot of time finding the new things, or
making the new moves.  It's very frustrating.

I was fine with 2010, and now I feel like I need to go find a whole
tutorial on 2012-- except that it's only the 20% of nonsense that I'd have
to relearn, and all the rest would be a crashing bore.

Thanks for a misery-loves-company moment.

Linda
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[Finale] Fin mac 2012 staff names

[Linda Worsley]

I think I've asked this before, but how do I change staff names?  I want
full names on first page of score, abbreviated on the rest.  I've combed
the finale forums online, and tried everything, but nothing works.  Nothing
changes when I go to staff styles and the other suggestions.  the file I
inherited from MIDI (ugh) came through with abbreviated names on the first
system, and the default Track 1, Track 2) names on subsequent pages.

HELP!

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Re: [Finale] Fin mac 2012 staff names

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where do I find score manager.  One forum says in utilities but it's
not there.  I have used Finale since version 1.0 in the late 80s, bud I
have done the update on 2012.  You'd think I'd know how to do this, but
this particular thing has been totally frustrating.   I'm at a loss.

Linda

On Mon, Jan 7, 2013 at 11:09 AM, SN jef chippewa 
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 in F2012 in the score manager, instrument by instrument

 in earlier versions you can do it in scroll view but will need to
 update groups if you have optimized systems

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[Finale] (no subject)

[Linda Worsley]

Can anyone tell me if mac Finale 2012 is compatible with OSX 4.0?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 2012 Text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

Neal, the redraw screen is not do anything either.  I have restarted
Finale, restarted the computer, Everything.

Maybe using the expressions tool IS the best way for this, since text block
seems to be disabled.  Trouble is, it's only disabled part of the time.
Using the measure attached text blocks is WAY easier, since it's just point
and type right where you want them, and no fussing around with open the
tool, type the text, two separate clicks to say OK, and then select, and
then move it around.  And typing the text into those tiny little boxes
makes it difficult for me since my vision is not that great these days.
 It's NOt the way I want to do it, and the old method is theoretically
available to use (the text tool is there, the pull down says I can attach
to measure, and none of it works.)

 Also I really don't think the screen is redrawing.None of the commands
for redraw screen (including doing it from the tool bar) do anything at
all.  In the past, when the redraw screen happened, you could actually
see the screen redraw.

I'm using latest mac Air and Mountain Lion OS (10.8.1).  Recently upgraded
from my macPro (10.4) and Finale 2010. New Finale seems fine in spite of
renaming and repositioning some of the tools and procedures. I can deal
with changes, But this problem never occurred with my old setup and
software.  Grr.


How do I complain to Make Music?

And thanks for your suggestions.  I'm glad it works for you, but it's
hangin' me up!

Thanks for your efforts to help.  Much appreciated.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 2012 Text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 11:24 AM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.cawrote:

 This is a long shot, but I found that text blocks don't always work if my
 double-click is too fast. (I've programmed my right-click to be a double
 click and this works on everything except text blocks.) When I double click
 a slower way, then I can get access to the text block.

 Tried it.  Nope.  (sigh)

But thanks
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[Finale] Fin Mac 2012 Text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

I am having a lot of trouble with text blocks (which I really, really need
for a current project).

It only lets me enter them about half the time, and I cannot for the life
of me figure out why.  Sometimes I double click on a place in the score
(with text tool open) and it lets me enter it, move it around, and do
everything I've always done with it.  Other times I click and nothing
happens.  It still shows me the handles on the previously entered text
blocks  I can open and edit them, move them around, etc., but it won't let
me make a new one.  And then, in a different place, or after I've quit and
reopened later, it lets me do it.  For awhile.  And then won't.

Is this a bug?  Or have I inadvertently checked something that makes this
happen?

I do have the text blocks attached to measure. That;s crucial, since this
project is in flux and the measures that need text can turn up anywhere.
 But it happens when I change to attach to page as well.

Help!

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Re: [Finale] Fin Mac 2012 Text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

Well, first of all, I don't remember asking getting an answer before, but I
believe you, so I apologize if I asked it in duplicate.  I am so slammed
with deadlines that it could have gotten away from me.  Nevertheless, two
things;

1)  Redraw screen in mac 2012 is command-D.
I did that.  Nothing happens.  Also tried control D, Control R and command
R. Text tool is still inert.

2)  Since when are measure-attached text blocks obsolete?  Of course I
use the expression tool for all sorts of things, including many
non-expression elements, and I love the fact that I can even create a key
command for frequently used expressions or other text bits.

BUT I have a client who insists on putting stage directions in the
rehearsal score... sometimes quite lengthy... two or three long sentences
(and many shorter ones.)   I can only use the text blocks.  And they MUST
be attached to the measures or when the client adds or deletes measures, or
when I re-format pages for better spacing, they don't move with the
relevant measures.

The tip is much appreciated.  I wish it worked.

Thanks again,
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[Finale] Finale mac 2012 HELP

[Linda Worsley]

I have just loaded 2012 and opened several of my files to edit.  They look
great, but I keep coming across things that don't work, or that don't work
the same way I'm used to.  A couple of them have me completely hung up.

1) I can no longer find any Instrument List to change internal
instruments (I use them for checking only).

2) I need to change the MIDI files of each track in order to create a
standard MIDI file that can then be opened with all the tracks as separate
staves.  How do I do that in 2012?  I've been doing this for decades
without a hitch and suddenly don't have a clue!

3) a lot of text blocks (both attached to page and attached to measure)
will not show up with the little handle that lets me move them, delete
them, open them etc.  I have had to delete measures to get rid of unwanted
or screwed up text blocks and then re entered the music for those measures
(PAIN!) AND

4) The text too will not do what it has always done.  In 2010 when I double
clicked anywhere on the score it allowed me to create a text block.  Now...
nothing.  Sometimes it works, but it usually doesn't.  Where did I go
wrong.

Any help on any of these issues and I'm a friend for life!

Thanks

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[Finale] autosave

[Linda Worsley]

Mac - Finale 2010 - I can't find autosave (by any name) in the menu bars.


Recently lost 4 hours of work when I neglected to save manually.  Dumb dumb
dumb!
That said, I'll probably do it again when I get too involved.  Need
autosave, which I used to use all the time on big scores.

Help!  and thanks in advance.

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Re: [Finale] autosave

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Right you are.  Thanks!

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Re: [Finale] rests in layers

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks, everyone.
Much appreciated!

Linda Worsley

On Thu, Jun 14, 2012 at 7:36 AM, Florence + Michael launay-c...@gmx.netwrote:

 Yes: only use rests when absolutely necessary for clarity, or when the
 music is in strict counterpoint. Here's what Elaine Gould writes in her
 comprehensive guide to music notation, Behind Bars, in the section on
 part writing for keyboard instruments:

 Keyboard writing can move from a single line to any number of parts as
 required from beat to beat. (p. 310)

 To keep the stave as uncluttered as possible, use rests sparingly for
 additional parts: when both hands are already playing, the pianist does not
 want to read extra rests, except to clarify the placing of additional parts
 that have independent rhythm. (p. 311-312)

 Michael


 On 14 Jun 2012, at 11:25, Andrew Moschou wrote:

  Actually, no. Piano music can start/stop parts (layers) on a beat by
 beat
  basis. This is preferable in non-contrapuntal contexts and is usually
  perfectly clear.
 
 
 
  On 14 June 2012 17:51, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
 wrote:
 
 
  needs rests
 
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Re: [Finale] rests in layers

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John, I agree with you on several levels.  I don't do a lot of writing for
solo piano, and when I do, I usually use the make it clear school of
notation.  And I hate clutter.  So it's nice to know I don't have to pepper
the score (not mine, but an intricate and in some ways convoluted, score of
a client) with extra spiders.

Thanks for a thoughtful reply.

Linda
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[Finale] rests in layers

[Linda Worsley]

Don't know if this has ever been discussed. I have a client who uses a lot
of layers in his piano notation. Very useful, of course  (He is using
Encore, and gives me pdfs of the Encore scores to enter into Finale.)  Not
hard, but When he puts the notation in layers, he tends to leave layers
incomplete. For example, he might put a half note (in 4/4) in layer 2 of
the left hand part, and leaver the rest of that layer blank. The top layer
(usually Layer 1) Layer one typically uses all four beats, as it should.
 Meanwhile, layer 2 contains 2 beats..  s.

I have always put rests in places where a layer stops short.  Is this just
compulsive/neurotic of me or is it actually required that we fill out the
rest of the measure with rests?

Is there an actual rule for this?  A general practice that ignores the
rule?

Help.

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[Finale] text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

Mac Fin 2010
Is there any way to attach a text block to a measure, so that when
re-formatting music the text moves with the relevant measure(s).

I've wondered this for years, but can't find it in the tutorials or online
help.

TIA,

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] text blocks

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=

 Switch to scroll view. You can then click in a measure and the text block
 will be assigned to it, rather than the page.

 Fantastic!  Thanks so much!

Linda
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Re: [Finale] text blocks

[Linda Worsley]

So I can do it whichever view I'm working in.  That's so great.

Thanks to you both!

Linda

On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:57 PM, Haroldo Mauro hma...@hmauro.com wrote:

 You can also do it in page view by checking Assign to measure: Text
 Tool--Text menu--assign to measure
 Harold



 On 09/06/2012, at 19:41, Linda Worsley wrote:

  =
 
  Switch to scroll view. You can then click in a measure and the text
 block
  will be assigned to it, rather than the page.
 
  Fantastic!  Thanks so much!
 
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[Finale] shifting notation! HELP

[Linda Worsley]

I opened a MIDI file in Finale (mac, 2010) and discovered that right in the
middle of the pioece, all of the notation had shifted over a measure and a
half.  Not just one beat, not just one measure, but two eighth notes to the
left in 6/8.  I have NO idea how to shift them into the right position.

The client who sent this also sent me a pdf, and I see that he inserted a
1/4 measure (as a pause... OY!!) just before the great shift.  Is there any
way I can simply tell the notation to shift two eighth notes to the right?
 It's a long piece, and I may have to ask the client to create a special
MIDI file with just the second half, after the 1/4 measure.

But since I'm faced with this problem, I wonder if any of you have run into
a problem like this and know how to fix it.

Gratefully, hopefully,
Linda Worsley
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[Finale] octaves, broken, not rolled?

[Linda Worsley]

This is not really a Finale question as much as a notation question.  After
all these years, I should know this, but ... duh.

I am correcting a Finale piano score for a client, and he has several
places where he wants high octaves played in a bell-like manner by
breaking them (as if the lower note is a grace note, but both notes held).
 He has the wiggly rolled chord mark, and it looks wrong to me.  But
maybe not.  Is there some standard way to notate this without Mahler-like
copious notes about bell sounds and the like.

Thanks,

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] octaves, broken, not rolled?

[Linda Worsley]

Perfect!  Thanks!

Linda

On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Raymond Horton horton.raym...@gmail.comwrote:

 A lower octave grace note tied to real notes in octaves.


 Raymond Horton
 Bass Trombonist, Louisville Orchestra
 Minister of Music, Edwardsville (IN) UMC
 Composer, Arranger
 VISIT US AT rayhortonmusic.com



 On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 9:13 PM, Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com wrote:
  This is not really a Finale question as much as a notation question.
  After
  all these years, I should know this, but ... duh.
 
  I am correcting a Finale piano score for a client, and he has several
  places where he wants high octaves played in a bell-like manner by
  breaking them (as if the lower note is a grace note, but both notes
 held).
   He has the wiggly rolled chord mark, and it looks wrong to me.  But
  maybe not.  Is there some standard way to notate this without Mahler-like
  copious notes about bell sounds and the like.
 
  Thanks,
 
  Linda Worsley
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[Finale] mid-measure clef

[Linda Worsley]

I seem to have lost the way to make a midmeasure clef change.  Mac,
Fin.2010.  I can't find it anywhere in the clef window (tools). It was
there in earlier versions, but I can't find a way to move it in 2010
clef window.

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[Finale] Playback weirdness

[Linda Worsley]

I rarely use MIDI any more for anything, mostly just listen in my head to
what I write down.  I do check for wrong notes, usually by playing sections
(in orchestral scores) or isolating lines to catch the errors.  I'm
currently using latest Macbook Pro with Finale 2010.

Here's my problem: lately I've been working on finale scores that are not
my own, and when I play them back (most are just piano parts with a few
solo voices) and it's only playing back a a small part of the full
notation.  I know there are limitations on some MIDI instruments, but
piano???  Is there a setting that has caused this?  Where did I go wrong?
 Anyone out there with help will be very appreciated!

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Re: [Finale] opening a MIDI file in Finale.

[Linda Worsley]

As always the people on this list are incredibly generous with advice and
assisatance.

One thing I should have mentioned is that both the client and myself are on
latest model Macs, windows solutions are not possible, alas.

Mostly I am baffled that the client has given me so many files t hat have
opened without a whimper.  All Encore files ere created with the same
(ugh.. but that's another story) Encore software, saved as a standard MIDI
file, and all but this one opened without a whimper.

I think my only solution is to enter the thing myself, which I don't mind,
but for some reason the client resists.  He wants the tempo and dynamic
data (which is irrelevant, since th Finale files are for print and then
performance by humans) but for some reason he feels is important.

It may, however, be the only reasonable solution, given that I have already
spent far too much time trying to browbeat his original MIDI file, and the
one he re-did,  into submission.

Several people have offered to work on it themselves.  That's amazing, but
I think I'll just notate from hard copy.

Many, many thanks!

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[Finale] opening a MIDI file in Finale.

[Linda Worsley]

Help!  I have been receiving MIDI files from a client--created originally
in Encore, and saved as a standard MIDI file.  I have managed to open
fifteen of them in Finale and create Finale scores using the MIDI
information, comparing it to a PDF of the Encore printout for accuracy.

Encore is, of course, a horror show, but most of the time I can make these
work.

The 16th file, created in the same way, refuses to open and gives me an
error message that says Finale cannot open this filetype. I downloaded it
the same way I did the others.  Like the others, it has .mid at the end of
the file name, and he PDF of that file is perfect.  I've tried opening it
by double clicking, by opening it within the program and every other way
I can think of.  I even tried importing it in xml, but nothing works.  It
imported a blank score.

The client reconstituted the MIDI file from the original Encore file, as
he had the others, and they were just fine, opened like a charm.  This
one... well, does anyone have any advice?  (Just make a new score from the
pdf? he insists that there will be too many errors in translation.  But
that may be my last resort.

Thanks for any words of wisdom.

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Re: [Finale] opening a MIDI file in Finale.

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks, Don.  Alas, the client has aleady re-created the file once and the
new version didn't open either.

It's a mystery...

Thanks so much for weighing in!

Linda

On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 9:23 PM, Don Hart donhartmu...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi Linda - Could be a problem with the original (16th) Encore file, but
 also, maybe something went awry in the the creation of that particular midi
 file. Before re-entering everything I would ask the client to re-create the
 file in question, just in case he inadvertently did something slightly
 different. Good luck! - Don Hart

 On Mon, Jan 2, 2012 at 7:42 PM, Linda Worsley li...@ganymuse.com wrote:

  Help!  I have been receiving MIDI files from a client--created originally
  in Encore, and saved as a standard MIDI file.  I have managed to open
  fifteen of them in Finale and create Finale scores using the MIDI
  information, comparing it to a PDF of the Encore printout for accuracy.
 
  Encore is, of course, a horror show, but most of the time I can make
 these
  work.
 
  The 16th file, created in the same way, refuses to open and gives me an
  error message that says Finale cannot open this filetype. I downloaded it
  the same way I did the others.  Like the others, it has .mid at the end
 of
  the file name, and he PDF of that file is perfect.  I've tried opening it
  by double clicking, by opening it within the program and every other
 way
  I can think of.  I even tried importing it in xml, but nothing works.  It
  imported a blank score.
 
  The client reconstituted the MIDI file from the original Encore file,
 as
  he had the others, and they were just fine, opened like a charm.  This
  one... well, does anyone have any advice?  (Just make a new score from
 the
  pdf? he insists that there will be too many errors in translation.
  But
  that may be my last resort.
 
  Thanks for any words of wisdom.
 
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[Finale] courtesy accidentals

[Linda Worsley]

We went through this once before, and I can't find the response in my
archive.

How do I provide courtesy accidentals?  They are not in any of the tools,
thouh at one time they used to lurk in the articulation tool.  Is there a
key command?

Thanks,
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Re: [Finale] courtesy accidentals

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NEVER MIND.  I found it.  Who knew it would be so easy!

Thanks again,
Linda
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[Finale] piano brackets

[Linda Worsley]

In over 20 years with Finale, I have never had this happen before:

I selected group and brackets in staff tool, asked for barlines
through staves, and the usual bracket.  I've performed this six times
now, going back and forth, starting over, and the bracket (in page
view) does not show up on any but the first system.

Help!

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[Finale] piano brackets

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The optimize issue was the problem!  Thanks you.

Now solved!

Linda
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[Finale] macfin2010 measures per system

[Linda Worsley]

Tough going back to Finale and blanking on things I thought I knew...

How do I specify number of measures per system? macfin2010

Thanks for any help!

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Re: [Finale] macfin2010 measures per system

[Linda Worsley]

 Finalelist is like our own personal Genius Desk!

Thanks!

Linda


On Mon, Dec 5, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Jari Williamsson
jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote:
 On 2011-12-06 00:17, Linda Worsley wrote:

 How do I specify number of measures per system? macfin2010

 Utilities/Fit Measures... in any tool that supports measure selections.

 I think it works that way back in Fin2010 as well.


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Re: [Finale] courtesy accidentals

[Linda Worsley]

Thanks to everyone for the help on courtesy accidentals.  They all work,
but take about four times as long as I remember.  I seem to remember a set
of accidentals, both with and without parentheses in either the
articulation tool or the expression tool, where I could just select and
position the courtesy accidental.  Was I dreaming?

Also I use simply entry, though I use speedy for some special tasks like
creating or separating beans.  I have always used simple and I know that
arguments rage about which is better, but simple is better for me and with
an outboard numeric pad on the left and a mouse in my right hand I can go
like the wind.  But this may be one case where I use speedy for a specific
task.

Still, I'm wondering what happened to those graphics (I think) I used to
use.  Does anyone remember those?  Did they disappear in later versions of
Finale.

By the way, the reason I am begging for help here is that my 2010
documentation seems to have disappeared when I changed computers and
cloned everything to this one.

Linda
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Re: [Finale] courtesy accidentals

[Linda Worsley]

It's my experience that when I give a new piece to the players either for
live performance or recording, that leaving out courtesy accidentals
*does* waste
time.  I have always erred on the side of using them, especially when
cancelling a previous accidental that might prove confusing.  I made this a
rule after having to stop and clarify, especially in the studio where *I*
was paying the tab.  Some bits of notation clutter, but I think courtesy
accidntals do not.  I don't use parentheses except in cases where it seems
clearer than a naked accidental.

By the way, I just created a whole library and put it in the articulation
tool. Six different characters (w and w/o parentheses.)  I also created a
key command for them. (I love this particular feature!) But I don't
remember having to create this library before, and I have used Finale since
the very first version in the 80s.  But maybe I am getting dotty after all
these years...

Thanks to all for help!

Linda



On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Randolph Peters randolphpet...@shaw.cawrote:

 On the use of courtesy accidentals:

 I seem to get more questions from performers if I really meant to write
 those notes when I use courtesy accidentals than when I don't use
 anything. I just want to clarify things and not waste rehearsal time, but
 it often seems to backfire. I haven't decided if I should turn this into
 personal rule yet. It might just be that the notes in question sound wrong.
 (i.e., it's not the music, it's ME!).

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Re: [Finale] courtesy accidentals

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wow!  Thanks so much!

Linda

On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 9:07 AM, TXSTNR POP account lonpr...@txstnr.comwrote:

 Hi Linda,

 I'm sending you the Fin 2010 Help Files via YouSendIt.com.  Hope this
 helps.

 Lon

 On Dec 4, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Linda Worsley wrote:

  Thanks to everyone for the help on courtesy accidentals.  They all work,
  but take about four times as long as I remember.  I seem to remember a
 set
  of accidentals, both with and without parentheses in either the
  articulation tool or the expression tool, where I could just select and
  position the courtesy accidental.  Was I dreaming?
 
  Also I use simply entry, though I use speedy for some special tasks like
  creating or separating beans.  I have always used simple and I know that
  arguments rage about which is better, but simple is better for me and
 with
  an outboard numeric pad on the left and a mouse in my right hand I can go
  like the wind.  But this may be one case where I use speedy for a
 specific
  task.
 
  Still, I'm wondering what happened to those graphics (I think) I used to
  use.  Does anyone remember those?  Did they disappear in later versions
 of
  Finale.
 
  By the way, the reason I am begging for help here is that my 2010
  documentation seems to have disappeared when I changed computers and
  cloned everything to this one.
 
  Linda
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[Finale] courtesy accidentals

[Linda Worsley]

I'm using Mac  Fin 2010 and haven't been doing notation for awhile.

I can't seem to find courtesy (for inserting courtesy accidentals).  Do I
have to creat them in the articulation or expression tool?  I don't
remember it being so mysterious.
Sharps, flats, naturals-- none of those appear as an option in the dialog
box for either of those tools. I'm brain dead or someone has made off with
my accidentals.

Help!

(and Thanks)

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] Finale MIDI to Encore

[Linda Worsley]

I have a client who is, unfortunately, an Encore user.  I have sent him
some Standard MIDI files I made with Finale.  He has tried to open them in
Encore, so that he can see the notes  (I easily open his Encore-generated
MIDI files in Finale and see the notes just fine.)  Is there something I
am not doing right?  Or is Encore hopeless?

Thanks for any clues.

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] measufre number panic

[Linda Worsley]

I accidentally deleted a page number on a TERRIBLY HARD score, and all the
page numbers disappeared.  Agghh.  And I can't find a way to get them
back.

Mac - Finale 2010 - HELP!

Thanks,

Linda Worsley
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Re: [Finale] measufre number panic

[Linda Worsley]

I wrote measure number when I neabt Page number. (Never work on a
Finale ms. for 12 hours straight or you can't even think straight.)

 Sorry all who helped.  Actually a couple of you figured my glitch out and
helped and I fixed it.

Thanks to all!

Linda

On Wed, Nov 30, 2011 at 4:26 PM, Chuck Israels cisra...@comcast.net wrote:

 Linda,

 I read the subject line and saw measure number panic then saw answers
 related to the question in the body of the message and realized I had
 attempted an answer to a different question.  If it is page numbers that
 are the problem, then it does sound as if you have deleted a text box with
 page number text inserts, in which case, replace the text block holder
 and put in the page number text insert.  (Shift/command/P).

 Chuck





 On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:35 PM, Chuck Israels wrote:

  Hi Linda,
 
  Have you tried deleting and re-creating the entire number range in the
 measure tool menu?  I would try that.
 
  Chuck
 
 
  On Nov 30, 2011, at 3:17 PM, Linda Worsley wrote:
 
  I accidentally deleted a page number on a TERRIBLY HARD score, and all
 the
  page numbers disappeared.  Agghh.  And I can't find a way to get
 them
  back.
 
  Mac - Finale 2010 - HELP!
 
  Thanks,
 
  Linda Worsley
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[Finale] Notepaad question

[Linda Worsley]

My co-editor on a music ed. project has bought Finale Notepad, thinking she
would be able to edit my Finale files containing theme excerpts.  Is she
deluded?  Can she actually edit the notation on my regular Finale files by
pulling them up in Notepad?  Back in the day (oh, seven years ago) that was
not possible, to my knowledge.  Can she do that now?

Linda Worsley
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[Finale] Sibelius question

[Linda Worsley]

I just been asked a Finale question by a composer friend who uses Sibeliius.

Can Finale files be imported into Sibelius?  And/or the other way round?

I should know this, after using Finale since Version 0.0, but I don't.

Help!

Linda Worsley
Composer, Arranger
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