Re: [Fink-users] Copying between X and OS X environments?

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 08:24  PM, Wolfgang Rumpf wrote:


-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
Hash: SHA1

Is there any way to get common clipboard functionality between, say, 
Microsoft Word (or any other OS X application) and an X app?  For 
example, I want to copy an image from GIMP and paste it directly into 
Word - or copy an image from OpenOffice and paste it into 
GraphicConverter.  Is there a way to enable this?


Works out of the box with the new Apple X11. (for text, at least, dunno 
about pictures) command-C to copy in X, and control-v to paste. 
(strange, yes, control to paste)

With the standard, old, slow xfree, you can use autocutsel. fink 
install autocutsel.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 8, 2003, at 11:15  AM, Hal Sadofsky wrote:


1) does Apple's new XonX run rooted as well as rootless?



No.


2) does it take more advantage (rooted) of the hardware?  (Certain
things - scrolling, moving windows - are very slow on my ibook for
example.)



It is always in rootless mode, but it is all quartz accelerated and 
super fast. Really, really fast.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 10:54  AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:


Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 19:46 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen a écrit :


Have you tried removing xfree86-rootless-threaded first?

Same.

sudo /sw/bin/fink  remove xfree86-rootless-threaded
Password:
Information about 2063 packages read in 1 seconds.



Please see the FAQ.

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Re: [Fink-users] Bluefish, Apple X11, and xfree86-threaded?

[Ben Hines]

And you'll need to reinstall apple's X11 packages afterwards as well, 
because you corrupted your install by installing them first.

-Ben

On Thursday, January 9, 2003, at 11:04  AM, David R. Morrison wrote:

Try the instructions:

  http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/x11/inst-xfree86.php#switching-x11

  -- Dave


On Jan 9,2003 19:54:16 +0100, =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Mich=E8le_Garoche?= 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote :

Le jeudi, 9 jan 2003, à 19:46 Europe/Paris, Alexander Hansen a écrit :


Have you tried removing xfree86-rootless-threaded first?

Same.

sudo /sw/bin/fink  remove xfree86-rootless-threaded
Password:
Information about 2063 packages read in 1 seconds.

pkg xfree86-rootless-threaded  version ###
pkg xfree86-rootless-threaded  version 4.2.1.1-3
dpkg --remove xfree86-rootless-threaded
dpkg : un problème de dépendance empêche la suppression de
xfree86-rootless-threaded :
 gtkglarea2-shlibs dépend de libgl ; cependant :
  Paquet libgl n'est pas installé.
  Paquet xfree86-rootless-threaded qui fournit libgl doit être 
supprimé.
 xforms-shlibs dépend de libgl ; cependant :
  Paquet libgl n'est pas installé.
  Paquet xfree86-rootless-threaded qui fournit libgl doit être 
supprimé.
 gtkglarea dépend de libgl ; cependant :
  Paquet libgl n'est pas installé.
  Paquet xfree86-rootless-threaded qui fournit libgl doit être 
supprimé.
dpkg : erreur de traitement de xfree86-rootless-threaded (--remove) :
 problème de dépendance - suppression ignorée
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
 xfree86-rootless-threaded
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't remove package xfree86-rootless-threaded

To get things back how they were, do:
sudo mv /usr/X11R6_bak  /usr/X11R6
sudo mv /etc/X11_bak/etc/X11

Already done, because I could not launch either XDarwin nor X11.


Now verify that your normal XDarwin works. Let me know here what
happens.

Yes, it works, though I have some warnings.


The problem was that fink still thought that you had
xfree86-base-threaded
installed, when you didn't. Try the same procedure as before, 
except
do this
first thing off:

fink remove xfree86-base-threaded
fink remove xfree86-rootless-threaded
I cannot. (Sorry the warnings are in French). Basically I'm told 
there
is a problem of dependencies and xfree86-base-threaded cannot be
removed because package X11 is not installed.

sudo /sw/bin/fink  remove xfree86-base-threaded
Password:
Information about 2063 packages read in 2 seconds.

pkg xfree86-base-threaded  version ###
pkg xfree86-base-threaded  version 4.2.1.1-3
dpkg --remove xfree86-base-threaded
dpkg : un problème de dépendance empêche la suppression de
xfree86-base-threaded :
  xfree86-rootless-threaded dépend de xfree86-base-threaded (=
4.2.1.1-3).
  xfonts-shinonome dépend de x11 ; cependant :
   Paquet x11 n'est pas installé.
   Paquet xfree86-base-threaded qui fournit x11 doit être supprimé.
  ..
dpkg : erreur de traitement de xfree86-base-threaded (--remove) :
  problème de dépendance - suppression ignorée
Des erreurs ont été rencontrées pendant l'exécution :
  xfree86-base-threaded
### execution of dpkg failed, exit code 1
Failed: can't remove package xfree86-base-threaded

So, what's now

Michèle




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[Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:34  AM, Finlay Dobbie wrote:


http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/

Just thought y'all should know :-)

 -- Finlay


The user install download link at 
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/ is broken currently. The SDK 
posted there won't help anyone, its just libraries and headers.

For those who want to try it out later, when the download works.

dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base
dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/  >
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/  >
fink install system-xfree86

Hopefully it'll work, dont have the full installer from apple yet.

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: Apple Announces X11 for Mac OS X

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 11:45  AM, Ben Hines wrote:


dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base
dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-base-shlibs


also of course, rootless if you have it:


dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-rootless
dpkg -r --force-depends xfree86-rootless-shlibs


and add -threaded if you have threaded..


http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/  >
http://www.apple.com/macosx/x11/download/  >
fink install system-xfree86



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Re: [Fink-users] What do you guys make of this?

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 7, 2003, at 12:00  PM, Liam mac Lynne wrote:


The binary installer appears to be up now -
, but I don't have access to 
a
Mac at work to check that the ~4 MB file is the real McCoy.
Slan,
Liam

You need both the 41MB (user) and 4MB (SDK) if you want to replace 
fink's X11.

Also apparently the current system-xfree86 might not work right with 
apple's x11, so until that is updated, you might want to wait. 
Hopefully we can fix that today.

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Re: [Fink-users] Checking for threaded X11

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, January 13, 2003, at 09:49  AM, Justin Walker wrote:



Perhaps 'otool' will help.  If the threaded libraries are 
distinguished by name, you can tell by looking at the output from 
'otool -Lv YourBinaryHere'.


... except that they aren't distinguished by name. :)

I refer you to 
http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html#id2840408

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Re: [Fink-users] Is it okay to remove /sw/fink/10.1 ?

[Ben Hines]

On Sunday, January 12, 2003, at 02:15  PM, Thom Peters II wrote:


I'm using Mac OS X 10.2.3 and I update fink from cvs and unstable, so 
is it okay to get rid of /sw/fink/10.1?  If not, will fink 
automatically delete 10.1 when I don't need it?


Yes, you can delete it.

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Re: [Fink-users] system-xfree86_4.2-5 does not find the right files to install

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 14, 2003, at 07:43  AM, Tim Pritlove wrote:



I followed the problems other people had installing Apple's X11 with 
fink but I have a new kind of bug I guess.




Please see the FAQ.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Fink Installation question

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 05:42  PM, Don Thompson wrote:


Dear List-Members,

I have recently removed my old Fink installation. I then down loaded 
the Fink 0.5.0a Binary Installer and attempted to install the new 
version. This failed apparently because I have set-up a symbolic link 
to a second hard drive. Is this feature of the installer a bug or is 
it to protect people from installing over an older version?

Either way could some tell me how to perform an install to a 
symbolically linked /sw directory?


1. Remove /sw
2. Install.
3. Move /sw to another drive ("ditto" is good to use)
4. Create /sw symlink to new location.

We will make this easier in the future.

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Re: [Fink-users] Fink Installation question

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 15, 2003, at 06:13  PM, Don Thompson wrote:


Ben,

I had thought about that; however, the FAQ and prior experience on my 
part would suggest that there will be questionable results with this 
approach. Earlier releases of fink have numerous hard coded paths to 
the install location. Ran into this problem recently when I had /sw on 
a second volume and that volume developed unrecoverable disk problems. 
ditto will move everything; however, executing anything becomes a 
matter of going through all kinds of scripts changing paths.


They still do. As long as your create the symlink, the hard coded paths 
will be fine. You MUST create the symlink /sw to your new location.

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Re: [Fink-users] Trouble logging in

[Ben Hines]

Use Safari? :)

-Ben

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 12:34  PM, Jeffrey Ellis wrote:


Hi--

I've been trying to log into the tracker for several weeks now and 
whenever
I do, IE crashes (IE 5.2.2 on 10.2.3). Can someone tell me what to do 
to fix
this...or is it being worked on?

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Re: [Fink-users] mpg123 problems

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 16, 2003, at 07:44  PM, Kevin Horton wrote:


cc -O -DDARWIN -Wall -O2 -DPPC_ENDIAN -DUSE_ESD -I/sw/include  -c -o 
mpg123.o mpg123.c
mpg123.c:9: header file 'stdlib.h' not found
mpg123.c:10: header file 'sys/types.h' not found
mpg123.c:12: header file 'sys/wait.h' not found

Looks like your developer tools install is corrupt.

Do you have /usr/include/stdlib.h?

If not reinstall the december 2002 developer tools.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] mpg123 problems

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 04:57  AM, Marcus Bointon wrote:


If anyone is installing mpg123, I think you should read this:

http://security-archive.merton.ox.ac.uk/bugtraq-200301/0137.html



True, but it is highly unlikely that one would make a trojaned .mp3 
that targets OS X powerpc, with MachO calling conventions.. the trojan 
out there surely targets x86.

Anyway, there is an alternative, in fink now which is being more 
actively developed: "mpg321". "fink install mpg321"

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Re: [Fink-users] Can't install new dpkg w/ cvs

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, January 17, 2003, at 01:20  PM, Gary Olson wrote:


I tried to remove xml-parser-pm (which requires removing some other 
perlmods first) thinking that I could then download and recompile this 
perlmod.  Then I would try updating again.  However, I can not remove 
it using apt-get, dselect, or fink.  Is Fink  broken because dpkg is 
only partially installed.?

Just rebuild it. "fink rebuild xml-parser-pm"

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Compiling ant fails

[Ben Hines]

You should email these reports to the maintainer listed in "fink info 
ant", instead of the list.

-Ben

On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 03:06  PM, Isreal Packard wrote:





My system:
Mac OS X 10.2.3 (6G30)
Power Mac G4 (version = 2.0)
gcc (GCC) 3.1 20020420 (prerelease)
Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution version: 0.5.1.cvs
Developer Tools December 2002

The error:


fink rebuild ant

..
..
..
Note: Some input files use or override a deprecated API.
Note: Recompile with -deprecation for details.
3 errors
 Failed compiling Ant classes !
Bootstrap FAILED
rm -rf /sw/src/root-ant-1.5.1-1
mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ant-1.5.1-1/sw
mkdir -p /sw/src/root-ant-1.5.1-1/DEBIAN
/var/tmp/tmp.0.SsAtyl
cp: cannot stat `ant': No such file or directory
chmod: getting attributes of `/sw/src/root-ant-1.5.1-1/sw/lib/ant': No 
such file or directory

  Any help is appreciated.


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Re: [Fink-users] problem with selfupdate

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 04:37  PM, Philip Trauring wrote:



My results:


philip% head /sw/var/lib/dpkg/availble-old
head: /sw/var/lib/dpkg/availble-old: No such file or directory
philip% head /sw/var/lib/dpkg/availble
head: /sw/var/lib/dpkg/availble: No such file or directory
philip%


You spelled "available" wrong. (just use "tab" to autocomplete it :)

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Re: [Fink-users] openjade crashlog

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, January 18, 2003, at 09:14  PM, Michèle Garoche wrote:


While compiling linc-0.5.5, I've got an openjade crashlog and the 
package failed to build with:



Any idea what should I do?


No, its not related to those warnings. It seems to be a bug in 
openjade. This happens for everyone. Please be patient while we resolve 
the problem.

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Re: [Fink-users] dpkg-1.10.9-2 failure

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, January 20, 2003, at 11:15  PM, Gary Elshaw wrote:


Anyone have any idea what's going on here?


Usage: head [-options] ...


http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/comp-general.php#head

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Problems with "restFP" and "saveFP"

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 12:13  PM, Alexandre Enkerli wrote:


I have no idea if this has to do with fink, but maybe I can find help 
here. Some packages I'm trying to install from source generate errors 
at make. Here's this error in the context of compiling the latest 
version of Apache 2.

ld: .libs/libapr-0.0.9.2.dylib-master.o has external relocation 
entries in non-writable section (__TEXT,__text) for symbols:
restFP
saveFP
/usr/bin/libtool: internal link edit command failed
make[3]: *** [libapr-0.la] Error 1
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1


You have some gnu-darwin things in /usr/local, i believe, like 
libgcc.dylib. Get rid of them.

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Re: [Fink-users] LibUSB 0.1.7-1 update won't build

[Ben Hines]

Please send me your full libusb build log. (off list)

-Ben

On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 05:20  AM, lenny bruce wrote:


For a long time now I couldn't get
Speex 1.0beta3-2 or LibUSB 0.1.7-1 to update.

Speex finally built tonight for some unknown reason
but LibUSB is still failing:

ld: Undefined symbols:
_usb_get_string_simple
### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.0.Wizvnp failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling libusb-0.1.7-1 failed
make[2]: *** [testlibusb] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all-recursive-am] Error 2

anybody have a hint?

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Re: [Fink-users] Proxy settings OK for Fink, not for FinkCommander

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 08:13  AM, H.Fagard wrote:


At 10:57 -0500 23/01/03, Alexander Hansen wrote:

Have you tried setting HTTP_PROXY et al. in the FC Preferences?


See my first message:
At 15:04 +0100 23/01/03, H.Fagard wrote:

I have checked the proxy settings in Preferences/Download: they are 
exactly identical to those entered through "fink configure".



Try setting them in the  "Environment" pane instead.

-BEn



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Re: [Fink-users] Mutt and URL's in e-mail: how to launch an aqua browser?

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 06:28  PM, Rogério Brito wrote:


On Jan 21 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:

Rogério Brito wrote:

	BTW, as another question, is there any reason (lack of
	manpower, perhaps) on why the urlview isn't present in fink?


You know, of course, the package request tracker at
http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=371315&group_id=17203

There is also a package-submit tracker for the case that you already
prepared a fink package for urlview :-)


	I can make a fink package for urlview (I just compiled it from
	sources and it worked great coupled with mutt) and contribute
	it to the Fink project, but I have a question: how does one
	create a package for Fink?



A package for urlview was made a couple days ago. "selfupdate-cvs" to 
get it.

For docs on  making fink packages, see the fink website, click 
documentation. There is a large packaging manual as well as a 
powerpoint presentation. :)
And look at, for example,
/sw/fink/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/net/urlview-0.9-1.info and
/sw/fink/10.2/unstable/main/finkinfo/net/urlview-0.9-1.patch

-Ben


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Re: [Fink-users] Upgrading unreleased packages

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 23, 2003, at 11:31  PM, Martin Costabel wrote:


Greg Howland wrote:

I've installed a package using Fink but would like
to upgrade it to a later version that has not been
uploaded to the CVS repository. I've downloaded
the tarball but I'm not sure about what to do from
here.


Upgrading a fink package to a later version means making a new 
package. In rare cases, it involves only a file name change and a 
trivial change in version and revision numbers. Most of the time, 
however, it means major porting work. This is the job of the package 
maintainer.


Eh? I would say most of my updates involve only a trivial change to the 
version numbers, or perhaps some minor fixes. Its rare that "major 
porting work" is required for a version bump. Of course, it all depends 
on the package. If you are talking about KDE, yeah, theres major work 
there. :)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Compile problems with guile

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, January 25, 2003, at 05:47  AM, David R. Morrison wrote:


I'm not sure where you got /usr/include/malloc.h, but it is not present
on my system.  I suggest that you move it out of the way temporarily
(by renaming the file) and then try to compile guile again.



It should not be "temporarily" removed, it should be deleted. malloc.h 
is not a standard system header and does not belong in /usr/include.

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Re: [Fink-users] Re: Fink-users digest, Vol 1 #1381 - 12 msgs

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 01:07  PM, Bruce Tomlin wrote:


On Wednesday, January 22, 2003, at 12:09  PM, Christian Schaffner 
wrote:

How did you start it? With
sudo safe_mysqld --user=mysql


I created a StartupItem to start it with '/sw/share/mysql/mysql.server 
start', which runs safe_mysqld.


You shouldn't do that. You should use "daemonic enable mysql" which 
creates the startup item for you. See "fink info mysql".


-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] update-all error

[Ben Hines]

Actually i believe "fink update gnome-vfs-ssl"..

-Ben

On Sunday, January 26, 2003, at 11:29  AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:


Try "fink rebuild-gnome-vfs-ssl"

--
Alexander K. Hansen
Associate Research Scientist, Columbia University
visiting MIT Plasma Science and Fusion Center
Levitated Dipole Experiment
175 Albany Street, NW17-219
Cambridge, MA  02139-4213

On Sun, 26 Jan 2003, Pejvan BEIGUI wrote:


Hi all,

I just made a selfupdate-cvs, and then, after trying to update-all, I
get the following error:


[2:47:52pm] _pejvan_ nightly-builds >> fink update-all
sudo /sw/bin/fink  update-all
Information about 2113 packages read in 1 seconds.

Failed: Internal error: node for gnome-vfs-ssl already exists



This is the first time this happens to me.
Anyone got an idea ?

Thanks,

Pejvan



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Re: [Fink-users] mysql CLI errors

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 07:39  AM, Justin Wright wrote:


I recently upgraded to Jaguar, and subsequently upgraded fink.
finkcommander shows readline 4.2a-5 and mysql 3.23.49-2 installed.



Your fink update did not complete properly, those are 10.1 versions.

Do all the steps on:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/10.2-upgrade.php

Sorry for the hassle, there were "issues" in the 10.1->10.2 update :)

 (future updates after that you can do with selfupdate)

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Re: [Fink-users] libpng warning

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, January 28, 2003, at 07:22  PM, David R. Morrison wrote:


The warning is confusing, because it refers to libpng, but the fix 
actually
has to do with the imlib package.  Until amaya can be updated, you 
should
"downgrade" imlib as described on Fink's webpage.


It was updated before your email was sent.

-Ben



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[Fink-users] Proper list use

[Ben Hines]

If you want to respond to a post someone makes on the list, or ask for 
more help, please respond to the list. When you email people directly, 
you limit the amount of help you may receive. Additionally, noone else 
can benefit if the help goes only to you.  Additionally, it is 
basically stealing someone's time to email them personally for help 
just because they happened to respond to your posting on the list. If 
you are really that embarrassed, create a yahoo mail account and make 
up a stage name or something.

So if you need help, stick to the list.

Note that just because your address was in the  "To" line doesn't mean 
"they responded to you directly". The default action of the lists is to 
reply to the poster as well as the list. If the list was in any of the 
headers, include it in any replies.

For more tips on how not to annoy curmudgeonly geeks like me, see 
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html , "How to Ask 
Questions the Smart Way".

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Re: [Fink-users] Apple's X11 symbols

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 09:55  AM, Martin Costabel wrote:


On mercredi, jan 29, 2003, at 17:11 Europe/Paris, Hans Fuchs wrote:


bash-2.05a$ g++3 $CPPFLAGS $LDFLAGS
-L/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/ -o
glcube -lclanGL -lclanApp -lclanDisplay -lclanCore -lX11 glcube.cpp
ld: /var/tmp//cc2EpG7D.o illegal reference to symbol: _glBegin  
defined in
indirectly referenced dynamic library
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/ 
libGL.dylib
ld: /var/tmp//cc2EpG7D.o illegal reference to symbol: _gluPerspective
defined in indirectly referenced dynamic library
/System/Library/Frameworks/OpenGL.framework/Versions/A/Libraries/ 
libGLU.dylib

This sounds like you need to add explicitly -lGL -lGLU to your command  
line.
And maybe -framework OpenGL instead of -L/System/Lib-etc.


-framework OpenGL is the proper answer. :)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] update-all wants to install xfree86

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, January 29, 2003, at 02:46  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:


That appears to be the case--I'm not sure if 2.0.13-6 required threads
or not, but I don't have that info file anymore.



A (complicated) procedure for setting up apple X11 with threaded 
support was posted on the list a few weeks back, in the matlab thread i 
believe.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] major problem with fink X11 perl script

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 06:01  PM, Jack Howarth wrote:


In case folks haven't noticed, there is a major
problem with the perl script to fix the shared lib
names for the MacOS X X11 beta files. If you look
at the log from update_prebinding on a machine
that has had the perl script run on it, you will
notice it breaks prebinding on all of the files
in the MacOS X X11 beta. The prebinding mechanism
doesn't recognize the new filenames for the shared


The script does not change any filenames.

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Re: [Fink-users] major problem with fink X11 perl script

[Ben Hines]

Aha, i see. You can fix that by updating the install_name in binaries 
that were built against the bad X11 libs.

I'll enhance the script to fix those too. Will post when i get it 
working.

Anyway - this problem is not "major" - major was the massive build 
failures apple's broken libraries caused. :)

-Ben

On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 07:32  PM, Jack Howarth wrote:

Ben,
I see the following type of errors for all the binaries in X11 when
update_prebinding gets run after your perl script has been used.

	2003-01-29 22:45:58.751 update_prebinding[9384] redo_prebinding on 
/usr/X11R6/bin/xcmsdb: executable: /usr/X11R6/bin/xcmsdb (architecture 
ppc) must be rebuilt, dynamic shared library: 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.2.dylib does not match its install_name: 
/usr/X11R6/lib/libX11.6.dylib

You can see this if your run "update_prebinding -force -root /" as 
root.
Again this means when 10.2.4 comes out and is installed, 
update_prebinding
will get run and X11 will become unprebound. This will also happen with
any installer that calls update_prebinding.
Jack
ps A clean install of the X11 beta and SDK prebinds fine with the
command above.




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Re: [Fink-users] freetype breaks my package

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 01:27  PM, James Gibbs wrote:


I'm working to make a package for xplanet. I thought I was basically 
all finished until I discovered that it won't build if freetype is 
installed. Freetype2 alone is not a problem.

The immediate problem is that FT_Library is not defined. It is defined 
in /sw/include/freetype2/freetype/freetype.h. If I add #include 
 to displaybase.h, the problem is 
fixed. But the file #includes FT_FREETYPE_H, which is defined in 
freetype2's ftheader.h as freetype/freetype.h.

This doesn't make sense to me, since the c++ line has 
-I/sw/include/freetype2, so it should be #including the file. I 
suppose I could just patch displaybase.h and be done with it.  Any 
thoughts?

This is a problem for a few packages. There is no way to fix it with 
conflicts lines, since fink doesn't know about conflicts yet. (only 
dpkg does, at install time)

So, you should use your workaround until fink implements BuildConflicts.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] one more point of confusion

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, January 31, 2003, at 03:16  PM, Michael Bovee wrote:


Okay one more,

I wanted to try to 'wget' some stuff from that there internet.  Just 
to be sure I tried it in Terminal first and got 'command not found'. I 
figured this was not part of the default install anyway, so after 
messing with troubles with scrollkeeper and such, I installed wget-ssl 
with Fink and then tried it in an xterm under XDarwin (I use 
Windowmaker).  It worked. But then I got an idea and tried it again in 
Terminal.app and now it works there too. (?)

So my question is, what do I need XDarwin and Windowmaker for?  My 
guess would be that a lot of other apps won't work outside XDarwin, 
but I am confused nonetheless. Is there a way to 'activate' wget as 
part of the basic MacOS X BSD package? If I ask 'which wget' it is the 
one in /sw/bin/, so I haven't inadvertently just started using a built 
in BSD version.


You seem confused. wget does not come with OS X, you must install it 
with fink, or no wget. only curl comes with OS X.

- Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] OpenSSL 097 seems to not exist?

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 06:04  PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Interesting problem here. Unless something failed, I'm fully 
selfupdated.

The core packages have been updated. You should now update the other 
packages
using commands like 'fink update-all'.


The -ssl stuff is broken currently. Everyone wait a couple hours till 
we get unstable fixed.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Need help with .info file

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, February 6, 2003, at 10:00  AM, Ken Botwinick wrote:


Hi,

I want to compile cadaver to include .netrc support. I did this in the  
past by adding --enable-netrc to the  
"/Volumes/Applications/sw/fink/10.2/stable/crypto/finkinfo/cadaver- 
ssl-0.19.1-12.info" file as so:

ConfigureParams: --mandir=%i/share/man --bindir=%i/bin --with-libxml2  
--enable-netrc


I'll update the package and try to add netrc support. Why not just  
email the maintainer? (me :) Should be in later...

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Need help with .info file

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 02:14  AM, Ken Botwinick wrote:


I'll update the package and try to add netrc support. Why not just 
email the maintainer? (me :) Should be in later...


Well, for a couple a reasons. I'm new to this whole process, and I 
should understand how to do it manually in general in case I need to 
do it to something else.

I just tried to rebuild, but the --enable-netrc still isn't there. Is 
there a command I need to run to get the new .info file?

I'm not sure why everyone wouldn't have wanted .netrc support in 
there. I'm using cadaver in a cron job and don't want to have to enter 
my password manually. Is there some other way I could have 
accomplished the same thing without .netrc?


Its in the unstable/crypto tree. You need to "fink selfupdate-cvs" to 
get it.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Need help with .info file

[Ben Hines]

selfupdate-cvs and try again, should be fixed... had a typo in there.

-Ben

On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 06:05  PM, Ken Botwinick wrote:


Installing from the unstable/crypto tree, I get:

*** [cadaver] Error 1
unescape
### execution of make failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling cadaver-ssl-0.20.5-1 failed

There seems to be some confusion about neon. It wants neon 18 and 23...

Any ideas?

Ken

On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 05:37  AM, Ben Hines wrote:



On Friday, February 7, 2003, at 02:14  AM, Ken Botwinick wrote:


I'll update the package and try to add netrc support. Why not just 
email the maintainer? (me :) Should be in later...


Well, for a couple a reasons. I'm new to this whole process, and I 
should understand how to do it manually in general in case I need to 
do it to something else.

I just tried to rebuild, but the --enable-netrc still isn't there. 
Is there a command I need to run to get the new .info file?

I'm not sure why everyone wouldn't have wanted .netrc support in 
there. I'm using cadaver in a cron job and don't want to have to 
enter my password manually. Is there some other way I could have 
accomplished the same thing without .netrc?


Its in the unstable/crypto tree. You need to "fink selfupdate-cvs" to 
get it.

-Ben



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[Fink-users] Virex ships/overwrites fink libraries

[Ben Hines]

This is very bad. Fink users, don't install this.

Virex 7.2, free to all .mac members installs:

/Volumes/Virex 7.2.dmg/Virex 7.2.pkg 328 % lsbom Contents/Resources/Virex\ 7.2.bom | grep sw
./sw40775   0/80
./sw/lib40775   0/80
./sw/lib/libcrypto.0.9.6.dylib  100644  0/80945416  3192711062
./sw/lib/libcurl.2.0.2.dylib100644  0/80634480  510417796
./sw/lib/libcurl.2.dylib100644  0/80634480  510417796
./sw/lib/libdl.0.dylib  100644  0/8015124   4193639260
./sw/lib/libssl.0.9.6.dylib 100644  0/80261776  3001832603

Found out on IRC, also someone noticed on the mcafee site.

http://forums.mcafeehelp.com/viewtopic.php?t=6318&sid=33d08f3c34f7e09dc546aa1ddf1c299c

-Ben

Re: [Fink-devel] Re: [Fink-users] Virex ships/overwrites fink libraries

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 07:18  AM, Kyle Moffett wrote:


feature in Virex.  The engineers used several existing pieces of
open-source software to make their job easier, but they forgot/didn't
know how/whatever to move the libraries to /Library/Application 
Support.


Probably not good to put them there. Better to put them in the bundle. 
(or link statically)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Libtool 1.4.2 and 1.4.3 C++ bundle linking problems

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, February 8, 2003, at 12:54  PM, Nicholas Riley wrote:


The problem with 1.4.2 seems obvious; the problem with 1.4.3 is that,
no matter what I try to do (RangerRick suggested CC="c++") libtool
uses gcc for linking.  If I try to use -lstdc++, libtool 1.4.3
complains that it can't link it dynamically and refuses to create a
bundle, only a static library, which is useless for what I need.



You need to pass --mode=CXX to libtool, i believe. (or something 
similar)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] pine / uw-imapd incompatibility

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, February 12, 2003, at 01:11  PM, Chris Devers wrote:


Sorry if this is in the archives, I poked around but didn't see 
anything
really related to this.

Why is it that Fink's pine & uw-imapd (or uw-imapd-ssl) packages can't 
be
installed at the same time? You can have a mail client or a mail 
server,
but you can't have both at the same time? Is there a good reason for 
this?



Pine includes imapd.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] tetex testing needed

[Ben Hines]

On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 08:23  AM, Enrico Franconi wrote:



The following are the (many more) commands which are in GW tex but not 
in
fink tetex:


Lots of those things are in other fink packages. For example t1binary, 
t1ascii, etc are in the "t1utils" package.

GW likes to spread anti-Fink FUD. The Fink tex distribution is fine. If 
its missing something specific that you need, let us know and it can be 
packaged.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] problems launching apps

[Ben Hines]

You probably need to wait a few minutes. It takes that long to launch. 
Really.

-Ben

On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 01:40  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

If everything is set up properly, then when you invoke /sw/bin/kword,
(for example), you should get a bunch of messages in your terminal 
about
various apps starting up.  Do you mean that you get literally nothing?

On Sun, 16 Feb 2003, Matt Singerman wrote:

Run, from a terminal.  I don't want to actually use KDE, I just have 
it installed so KOffice's dependencies will be in place.

Quoting Benjamin Reed <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

On Sunday, February 16, 2003, at 01:02 PM, Matt Singerman wrote:


 Hello all,

 I am running 10.2.4 and have fink 0.5.1 installed, along with 
apple's
x11 0.2.1.  I attempting to install KDE and KOffice (I really only
wanted KOffice) from the binaries, and everything seems to be
installed fine.  However, if I try to launch /sw/bin/kword (or
konqueror, or anything...) nothing happens.  Am I doing something
wrong?  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

What do you mean by "try to launch"?  Are you running it from the 
"run"
menu in KDE?  Or a terminal?

Did you set up your .xinitrc like http://fink.sf.net/news/kde.php 
says?
  If so you should have some useful logs in /tmp/kde.log that may say
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Re: [Fink-users] gtk-perl-pm failed to make (2)

[Ben Hines]

No, you should ignore those warnings. dpkg overwrites them at deb 
install time perl is confused because it sees the old versions under 
/sw while it is installing a new version into the deb root. If you rm 
them yourself you will remove the new versions!

-Ben

On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 06:53  AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

I'd mv them instead, in case of a problem.

On Wed, 2003-02-19 at 09:34, Michèle Garoche wrote:

I've changed the order stable / unstable tree in fink.conf putting
unstable first, then run fink index and rerun selfupdate cvs.

This time gtk-perl installed still with the same warnings plus those
ones:


## Differing version of auto/Gtk/Gtk.bundle found. You might like to
rm /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Gtk/Gtk.bundle

## Differing version of auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibImage.bundle
found. You might like to
rm /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Gtk/Gdk/ImlibImage/ImlibImage.bundle

## Differing version of auto/Gtk/Gdk/Pixbuf/Pixbuf.bundle found. You
might like to
rm /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Gtk/Gdk/Pixbuf/Pixbuf.bundle

## Differing version of auto/Gtk/XmHTML/XmHTML.bundle found. You might
like to
rm /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Gtk/XmHTML/XmHTML.bundle

## Differing version of auto/Gtk/GladeXML/GladeXML.bundle found. You
might like to
rm /sw/lib/perl5/darwin/auto/Gtk/GladeXML/GladeXML.bundle

Should I rm the suggested files?

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Re: [Fink-users] Fink 0.5.1 problem

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On Friday, February 21, 2003, at 01:27  PM, Jeff Whitaker wrote:

fink rebuild nedit should do it.

Or just "fink update-all", really.

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Re: [Fink-users] Compile fails for both apt-0.5.4-8 and dpkg-1.10.9-2

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, February 22, 2003, at 06:37  PM, Paul McNabola wrote:

I can't locate a CoreFoundation.h on my machine and wonder where it 
might be
from. I have Dev Tools Dec 2002 installed on 10.2.4.

Reinstall them, then, the install must not have completed.

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Re: [Fink-users] rpm-4.0.4-1 failed to build

[Ben Hines]

Install the Java 1.4 SDK from connect.apple.com.

This is the Java problem i mentioned a few days ago on the list. (it  
may need to go in the faq, until someone makes a java virtual package)

-Ben

On Tuesday, March 18, 2003, at 08:52  PM, Kow K wrote:

A build of rpm-4.0.4-1 failed on Fink 0.5.1.cvs, 0.12.1 running on  
10.2.4, with the following error. Any ideas?

Kow

[snipped]
/bin/sh ./libtool --mode=compile gcc -flat_namespace -DHAVE_CONFIG_H  
-I. -I. -I.   -DOPTIMIZE_POWERPC  -O3 -g -fsigned-char  
-I/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.1/Home/../ 
.../../Headers -c javaglue.c
gcc -flat_namespace -DHAVE_CONFIG_H -I. -I. -I. -DOPTIMIZE_POWERPC -O3  
-g -fsigned-char  
-I/System/Library/Frameworks/JavaVM.framework/Versions/1.4.1/Home/../ 
.../../Headers -c javaglue.c   -fno-common -DPIC -o javaglue.lo
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Re: [Fink-users] Update-all failure with arts

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 04:02  PM, Tom Dove wrote:
..
audioiocoreaudio.cc: In function `OSStatus PropertyListenerProc(long 
unsigned
   int, void*)':
audioiocoreaudio.cc:611: warning: unused variable `UInt32 propertySize'
audioiocoreaudio.cc:612: warning: unused variable `AudioDeviceID 
deviceID'
make[3]: *** [libartsflow_la.all_cc.lo] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
mv -f artsflow.o .libs/artsflow.o
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make: *** [all] Error 2
### execution of /var/tmp/tmp.0.rE52Hx failed, exit code 2
Failed: compiling arts-1.1.0-17 failed

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Suggestions?

Yes. Paste the actual error, you snipped it and just pasted warnings.

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Re: [Fink-users] looking for GNU-find .. ?

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, March 27, 2003, at 12:57  AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Fink has the findutils package that installs GNU find. I don't run it 
here, because it insists on installing anacron and daemonic which I 
don't want.

Actually it just 'insists on' cron-service. (btw: the word is 
"Depends:" on, not "Insists:")

Just make a package that provides cron-service to satisfy it. It would 
be useful to have a system-cron with some sort of system or script that 
lets apple's cron source the scripts in /sw/etc/cron.*.

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Re: [Fink-users] Groff 1.19 and Fink

[Ben Hines]

 I'll resurrect the old package as 1.19 and remove vasi as maintainer 
since he doesn't want to it seems.

-Ben

On Thursday, June 5, 2003, at 01:28  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

It sounds like you just volunteered ;-)

Actually, it looks like groff-1.19  works without doing any patching:  
I
built it on my machine with no problems (using the environment 
settings from

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-general.php#compile-myself ,

and it seems to run OK.

I'll put a formal request in on your behalf.



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in ancient Fink times, there was a Fink groff, because the Mac OS X
groff was even more ancient.  Then Mac OS X caught up, and the Fink
groff was deleted.  (Is this fiction?  My brain tries to tell me this
is true.)
Now, Mac OS X comes with groff 1.17.1, which is nice, except that it
does not have a Euro symbol.  This, of course, is a killer here in Old
Europe.  Would it be possible to resurrect Fink groff at 1.19?
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Re: [Fink-users] gnome-python/gramps

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On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 06:07  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

On my system, glibtool is provided by libtool14.  Install it if you 
don't
have it, and rebuild it if you do.
No, it isn't. /usr/bin/glibtool comes with the Developer Tools. Anyone 
who is missing it shoudl reinstall the december 2002 devtools. (make 
sure to install all opional packages)

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Re: [Fink-users] gnome-python/gramps

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On Monday, March 24, 2003, at 06:45  PM, Peter O'Gorman wrote:

On Tuesday, March 25, 2003, at 11:40  AM, Ben Hines wrote:

On Sunday, March 23, 2003, at 06:07  PM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

On my system, glibtool is provided by libtool14.  Install it if you 
don't
have it, and rebuild it if you do.
No, it isn't. /usr/bin/glibtool comes with the Developer Tools. 
Anyone who is missing it shoudl reinstall the december 2002 devtools. 
(make sure to install all opional packages)

Binary only users should not require the developer tools. Assuming 
that they have them is a bad idea.

Obviously.

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Re: [Fink-users] problems with apt-get update

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 03:44  PM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Donal Day wrote:

Here is the fink  version information.
fink --version
Package manager version: 0.11.1
Distribution version: 0.5.2.cvs
Is this part of  the  problem?
No, this looks OK. I still don't know what version of the apt package 
you have (fink list apt), but it seems probable that it is a version 
that is too old for OSX 10.2. Of course, if apt-get doesn't work you 
have some difficulties to update anything from the binary 
distribution, because also dselect and FinkCommander use apt-get 
internally.

No, it doesn't look ok, the package manager should be 0.12.1 with 0.5.2.

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Re: [Fink-users] gcc: unrecognized option `-pthreads'

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, April 11, 2003, at 03:52  PM, David Orlovich wrote:
Something I noticed is that one of the -p options that (I think) 
autoconfig determined for gcc is `-pthreads' and I keep getting the 
error:

gcc: unrecognized option `-pthreads'


It is not an 'error'.  It is a warning. Don't use the word 'error' 
unless the compile fails.



Maybe this doesn't matter at all - but I'm wondering why gcc is 
getting an option that it doesn't understand.  I'm running Apple's 
X-11.

Doesn't matter at all.

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Re: [Fink-users] Groff 1.19 and Fink

[Ben Hines]

On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 10:30  PM, Carsten Bormann wrote:
 Source-MD5: c12bf574120df33ec8c18d92703e099e
 DocFiles: BUG-REPORT COPYING NEWS PROBLEMS README
-ConfigureParams: --mandir=%i/share/man/ --infodir=%i/share/info
+ConfigureParams: --mandir=%i/share/man/ --infodir=%i/share/info 
CXX=g++2
 GCC: 3.1
SetCXX: g++2 is another way to do it normally, but groff doesn't seem 
to like that. Anyway thanks, fixed. Do you want to be the maintainer? :)

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Re: [Fink-users] where to define fink mirrors

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For sources, you can do it now. Update to fink 0.13.0 and add your URL 
to the file:

/sw/lib/fink/mirror/master

(see the other files there for the format)

then run 'fink configure' and select MasterFirst, and select your site 
as the chosen mirror.

-Ben

On Sunday, June 8, 2003, at 07:59  PM, Vincent Danen wrote:

Quick question.  I mirrored the fink distrib (all 11GB) and have it 
sitting
on my LAN for my mac machines to use.  Tried on my powerbook and 
modifying
the apt sources works peachy... no errors anymore... =)

My question is how do I tell fink to use this mirror?  It's an 
internal,
non-public, unofficial mirror and I can't see anywhere in 
/sw/etc/fink.conf
to tell fink to use it instead of whatever it's currently using for 
package
info, etc.

Or is the fink mirror stuff (direct_download off of 
us.dl.sourceforge.net)
just apt stuff, and for fink I just have to keep doing a 
selfupdate-cvs?

Thanks for any info.

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Re: [Fink-users] CVS note

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, June 9, 2003, at 04:18  PM, Chuck Robey wrote:
You're right.  I went reading into it to write up a patch, and found it
too.  I've thought up several other ways to screw it up, but they won't
work in this situation.
While you are patching fink cvs commands, how about making it work if 
~/.cvspass gets hosed? that happens often (it is a faq)

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Re: [Fink-users] how to modify a package

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, June 10, 2003, at 10:37  AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Hello all:

I have a package on my machine that has a default value compiled in.
I would like to change the default value, which involves modifying one
line of source code. How can I interrupt the installation process so


diff -u originalfile.c modifiedfile.c >> 
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/libs/foo-1.1-1.patch

then the patch will be applied when it is built, assuming the package 
has a Patch field. If not, you can add one.

See http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/packaging/reference.php ,  it 
really is quite easy.

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Re: [Fink-users] sw_vers zombies after fink update-all

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, June 11, 2003, at 02:43  PM, Michèle Garoche wrote:
I've launched fink selfupdate-cvs at 5:33 am (UCT +2) today. Then fink 
update-all. I've never seen those sw_vers zombies before. fink 
update-all is not finished yet (kde compiling still in progress).

Does somebody have any idea what's wrong here?
Try 'pstree' which will give you a nice tree representation of your 
processes. (show you who called what) It is in fink.

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Re: [Fink-users] fink and root privileges

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, June 21, 2003, at 09:12  AM, Jerry Talkington wrote:

If you need this feature, you could work on updating this patch--it's
now a bit old. Also, you could help figure out how we should handle
packages that need root privileges, like passwd (adding users),
passwd and similar packages should have system- equivalents
(like system-xfree86), since the user may not need to install them (I
have them already installed from my stable fink tree, but people could
have already have them installed from a NetInfo root, NIS, LDAP, etc.).
Won't work, all users need them. fink users can mix apt-get and source 
installs. user IDs must match, so the passwd package uses the same UIDs 
for everyone. The best way to do it will be with a shared passwd 
database and a passwd package that adds the users on demand to the 
specific UIDs specified in the shared passwd database.


daemonic (running daemons),
There could be a dummy package that shows that an equivalent is
installed (with possibly a script that pretends to do daemonic's job,
but doesn't actually install the stuff in /Library/StartupItems.)
Actually, daemonic daemons are installed by the user with the 'sudo 
daemonic enable' command. There is no harm in having a daemonic package 
installed and not running that command. Most of them make little sense 
for a non-admin account in any case.

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Re: [Fink-users] New gcc 3.3 compatible with fink compiling?

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, June 23, 2003, at 08:06  PM, Michèle Garoche wrote:

I'd like to know if it's advisable now to use the gcc 3.3 as default 
compiler right now or does it conflict with the way Fink operates?

Michèle
Many packages will not yet compile with 3.3, including apt. 
Additionally there are ABI changes which will seriously break things if 
you mix 3.1 and 3.3 compiled libraries.
You can install 3.3 currently if you make sure to run 'sudo gcc_select 
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Re: [Fink-users] Need help installing gnupg

[Ben Hines]

On Tuesday, June 24, 2003, at 01:34  PM, Paul Hoffman wrote:

At 3:30 PM -0400 6/24/03, sinclair44 wrote:
On 6/24/03 3:05 PM, "Paul Hoffman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

 OK, I got a copy of the file I need from ftp.gnupg.ca. Where do I 
put
 it to make Fink think that it already has the file so it can move
 forwards?
I'd look more at the email Alexander Hansen sent (i.e. you're out of 
date)
but /sw/src should work fine.
Thanks to all. I did that, and it installed fine.
But you are still out of date and need to run selfupdate.

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Re: [Fink-users] Installing Debian packages on Fink?

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, June 28, 2003, at 01:16  AM, Jonas Steverud wrote:

Something that struk me yesterday was that in Debian there are a lot
of packages that doesn't contain any binaries, like the ispell
dictionaries, and it would be nice if those where available in fink
too. My question now is how much work is it to port these non-binary
packages to Fink in general?
Check out the fink packaging manual on the web site, and the .info 
files in fink, for example:

 /sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/finkinfo/text/ispell-french-1.0-1.info 
You could easily make a small package to install these. (and submit 
them to us to include in fink, if you want)

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Re: [Fink-users] can't make fink believe stuff needs to be updated

[Ben Hines]

On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 10:34  AM, Geoff Smith wrote:

I have fink installed, but only version 0.12.1-1, or 0.5.2 (not really 
sure about the numbering scheme).  The results of a fink selfupdate 
follow:

This was a known bug in fink 0.12.1.

See http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/fix-upgrade.php  which 
contains the fix. However i admit that it is not easy or obvious to 
find. the exact error should possibly be put in the FAQ or upgrade 
matrix with the fix. Currently it is only linked to on 
http://fink.sourceforge.net/download/upgrade.php

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] gnotime compile failing: used from dynamic library....not from earlier dynamic library

[Ben Hines]

On Wednesday, July 9, 2003, at 08:05  AM, Mark Stosberg wrote:
nt.

So here's why I'm stuck compiling it. I'm gettin a whole slew of errors
like this:
#
symbol _Load_Device used from dynamic library 
/sw/lib/libpangoxft-1.0.dylib(ftxopen.lo) not from earlier dynamic 
library /sw/lib/libpangoft2-1.0.0.dylib(ftxopen.lo)
###

That is not the error, that is just a warning. The error is elsewhere.

(also, this would be better on fink-devel)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] will fink purge remove its changes made to Netinfo after an install of passwd?

[Ben Hines]

On Saturday, July 12, 2003, at 05:20  AM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

You wouldn't be able to remove passwd until you remove everything else,
since it's a base package.  I'm not sure if "fink purge" takes out the
daemon users, but it should, by rights.
base packages CAN be removed. Only 'Essential' packages can't be 
removed, and not all 'base' are 'essential'. However, as drm stated, 
the passwd users never are removed.

Currently, passwd can't be made optional due to various issues. It is 
all-or-none, and some packages won't work without their users. Also, 
users can mix binary and source installs, creating further issues.

An enhanced passwd which only installs the needed users (ie, you only 
get user postfix if you need postfix) is planned, perhaps i will make 
that my next project, though it is tricky and won't satisfy everyone.

-Ben



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[Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] g77 error

[Ben Hines]

We should add these fixes to our autoconf packages and ALL broken 
fortran packages. It is legitimate to file bugs on all of them, since 
they do not work and it is fixable.

-Ben

On Friday, July 11, 2003, at 10:46  AM, jfm wrote:

On Friday, Jul 11, 2003, at 18:58 Europe/Brussels, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

This is an error I have gotten with either g77 3.1 or 3.3 if you 
upgrade to the developer tools patch that installs gcc 3.3.  The only 
way I was able to get rid of this problem was to reinstall the 
December 2002 edition of the developer tools.  Merely switching back 
to gcc 3.1 did not get rid of this problem.  I tried reporting it 
before but ...
A slightly longer  way ... :

1) in autoconf2.5, add the line

PatchScript: sed -i -r 's|^(\ *)(end]\))|\1call\ exit\n\1\2|g' 
lib/autoconf/fortran.m4

(and do a similar patch for extutils-f77 for a couple of perl-modules :
in F77.pm, add a line
 print OUT "  call exit\n";
right after the line :
 print OUT "  print *, 'Hello World'\n";
)
2) After rebuilding those 2, the configure stage in other builds 
should proceed normally,
provided you add, if necessary, in a PatchScript to run  autoconf  (or 
autoreconf (-f)) ,
and, if necessary, fix, before running autoconf, the  .m4  files in 
the builddir. Thus, eg,

PatchScript: <<
 sed -i -r 's|^(\ *)end$|\1call\ exit\n\1end|g' *.m4 m4/R.m4
 autoconf
<<
3) As to the make proper, the following line is safe to add in the 
PatchScript, and will as far
as I know correct the problems in the sources :

egrep -r '^\ *(STOP|stop)$' *|grep '\.f:'|cut -f1 -d':'|xargs sed -i 
-r 's,^\ *(STOP|stop)$,&\ 999,g'

Best,

JF Mertens



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Re: [Fink-users] problems building kde programs

[Ben Hines]

_Sm* is all from libSM, part of xfree86. What versions of xfree86 do 
you have installed? Apple's? Fink's?

-Ben

On Tuesday, August 12, 2003, at 08:28  PM, Kurt Fleschner wrote:

Now, I'm stumped on whats causing all this to not build. Anyone have 
any ideas on how to fix this? Thanks.



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Re: [Fink-users] libffi for darwin/os x?

[Ben Hines]

On Sunday, August 10, 2003, at 01:56  AM, Asko Kauppi wrote:

I was surprised to see that 'libffi' (foreign function interface) is 
not available as a fink module.
Is there a reason for this, or just that no-one's needed / had the 
time to port it?

Fink just includes what people care to contribute, we don't  (usually)  
go down a list of software and port it.

Currently, libffi is part of the gcc development tree, and pretty 
stable. Darwin/osx port exists, so it's just a matter of packaging. 
Most people (like me) won't need the full gcc suite...



We do have a request tracker:

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/?atid=371315&group_id=17203

or you can try it yourself:
http://fink.sourceforge.net/doc/packaging/index.php
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Re: [Fink-users] master ftp problem...

[Ben Hines]

On Thursday, August 28, 2003, at 10:02  AM, Viv Kendon wrote:

On Thu, 28 Aug 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:
"master:master:master:master...", huh?

This seems to have been the same problem. The thread doesn't offer a
clear explanation of this phenomenon, but fink (the package) was 
changed
on 13 June because of this.

What version of fink do you have? The change would have been between
0.13.2 and 0.13.3.
This bug has always been there since I implemented the mirroring stuff. 
I fixed at least one occurrence of it, but I think it still exists, i 
heard one report of it a while back and haven't changed anything after 
that.

Probably some error in my hackish newbie perl code. :)

Unfortunately the master mirror concept doesn't work, because our (one) 
master mirror doesn't actually update on any kind of reasonable 
schedule. I'd hoped for hourly, it 'tries' to do it daily, and we 
really get 'a few times a month'.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] move it or lose it?

[Ben Hines]

On Monday, August 25, 2003, at 04:17  PM, Jens Nockel wrote:

packages will survive this. For example, scientific programs like R,
Numeric Python, octave etc. may be compiled with ATLAS or Altivec 
support.

1. Those are about the only packages which do that (generally, fink 
packages do not and are not supposed to)
2. I doubt he uses many scientific packages working in the Department 
of Art at CSUSB :)

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] rmail and postfix

[Ben Hines]

Uh, why the hell would we do that? It works fine. We have plenty of  
unmaintained packages. No reason to remove a perfectly working and  
popular package which might be missing some obscure rmail script.

The postfix maintainer posted in july that he would update the package.  
I haven't heard otherwise from him.

http://sourceforge.net/tracker/ 
?group_id=17203&atid=414256&func=detail&aid=743083

-Ben

On Tuesday, September 2, 2003, at 12:11  PM, Philip Ershler wrote:

I feel badly, but I don't have the time or the expertise to become a  
fink maintainer. In my opinion, Postfix should just be pulled from  
Fink, unless someone else can take care of it.

Phil


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Re: [Fink-users] porting question: darwin ld, how to handle GNU ld options

[Ben Hines]

I'd suggest [EMAIL PROTECTED] list for this, or at the very least, 
fink-devel.

But to answer - no. You will probably need to actually port the code. 
What package, why does it need these things?

-Ben

On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 03:16  PM, Kevin Hilman wrote:

I have a package that uses several GNU ld options (--defsym,
--start-group, --end-group etc.) and the apple linkder doesn't take
these options.
What's the usual methond to fix this?  Does GNU ld exist for darwin?
Or, is there a wrapper that can interpret GNU-style options?
Thanks,

Kevin Hilman
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Re: [Fink-users] fink and giFT

[Ben Hines]

Those instructions are out of date. Just 'fink install gift'.

-Ben

On Oct 20, 2003, at 7:22 AM, Susheel Daswani wrote:

Hi Fink Users!
Has anyone successfully compiled giFT on OS X with some support from 
Fink?  I found a website that details the process: 
http://www.gottsilla.net/gift/ .  Unfortunately the 'make' fails - the 
libtool command isn't happy.  Any idea what is going on?


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Re: [Fink-users] Fink/OSX interactions

[Ben Hines]

On Nov 19, 2003, at 1:18 PM, Nolan J. Darilek wrote:

I've done a "fink selfupdate" recently, and the behavior began
again. My powerbook now prompts for a login and password when
booted. Before, the situation was very cut-n-dry, as I'd installed


This has nothing to do with fink and could not have anything to do with 
fink.  Something else is causing it.

System Preferences -> Accounts -> Login Options check "Automatically 
Log In" checkbox.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] "Unable to parse the line"

[Ben Hines]

That is not unfortunate, that is very good. Unless you are trying to 
give yourself more support work, by letting people use whatever old 
rsync they may have and bug you when problems arise. :)

Anyway its not fixed yet, CVS HEAD still calls 'rsync'. No full path.

-Ben

On Nov 20, 2003, at 12:39 PM, Alexander K. Hansen wrote:

An additional factor:  I'm using rsync-2.5.6-1 from Fink; this version 
seems to solve everything.  Unfortunately, this is going to be 
switched to a mandatory /usr/bin/rsync.


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Re: [Fink-users] Gramps

[Ben Hines]

On Nov 25, 2003, at 8:51 PM, Daniel Macks wrote:

Okay, so you've got python2.2 and pygtk2-py22 installed. From a
terminal window, what's the output of 'fink list pygtk' (without the
quotes)? There may be some weird interactions if more than one version
of pygtk is installed concurrently.
gramps 0.9.5 compiles and runs fine on 10.3.  It is in the unstable 
tree.

I can't move the python policy compliant 0.9.5 gramps into stable until 
its Deps are moved. Most of the python stuff in stable is the old, 
broken, non version dependent format, which would explain his problem 
well.

We need to remove all the non python policy compliant packages out of 
stable and replace them with their updates. (ie, ger rid of 
gnome-python for -py23, get rid of pygtk2 for its -py23 and -py22, 
etc... They aren't stable, really.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] update-all fails for aspell

[Ben Hines]

As far as i can tell, the dictionaries DON'T depend on the shlibs OR 
builddepend on the -dev. They appear to build and work fine just 
depending on aspell, which depends on its shlibs and dev.

The shlibs and dev are for third-party apps that embed aspell.

-Ben

On Dec 8, 2003, at 11:04 AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:

Depends: aspell (>= 0.50.4.1), aspell-shlibs
BuildDepends: aspell-dev (>= 0.50.4.1)
CompileScript: ./configure
InstallScript: make install DESTDIR=%d
..
Change version, Depends, BuildDepends


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Re: [Fink-users] sdl-mixer on panther

[Ben Hines]

Run fink selfupdate. Current is 1.2.5-12 in the 10.3 tree.	 I just put 
it in stable as well.

-Ben

On Dec 8, 2003, at 3:38 PM, GoochRules! wrote:

Failed: compiling sdl-mixer-1.2.5-11 failed


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Re: [Fink-users] mutt failed on 10.3

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 8, 2003, at 1:16 PM, Claus Atzenbeck wrote:

On Mon, 8 Dec 2003, Martin Costabel wrote:

No idea, sorry. But you can try to do

   fink install mutt-1.4i-21

to force the installation of the new version.
I did "fink purge mutt". This has solved the problem. Don't ask me
why, but after that "fink install mutt" is now compiling the version
from the 10.3 tree.
Actually, the 10.3 tree version is older, not newer. By fink installing 
1.4i-21 you went backwards, not forwards.

This happened because drm synced 10.2/stable to 10.3/unstable as the 
first move which caused the info files for people's installed packages 
to no longer exist.

I'll move mutt 1.4.1 to 10.3/unstable.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] mutt failed on 10.3

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 16, 2003, at 12:04 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Except that in the case at hand mutt was not installed at all. Only 
its config files were left, beause it was not purged. I would consider 
this at least counter-intuitive behaviour (not to say bug) that fink 
in this case refuses to install (and doesn't tell why), because it 
takes its information about what version is the latest available one 
from some body count in dpkg's database and not from its own.
dpkg's database is the only database of installed files. Fink does not 
keep one. (nor could it, currently) Fink's own database only tracks 
info files (for source building). Fink can't know what is installed 
without trusting dpkg because users can install via apt-get or dpkg 
directly.

We do a 'fink purge' command for purging configuration files..

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] mutt failed on 10.3

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 16, 2003, at 10:26 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:
you get the impression that something is not right, whatever the 
interior mechanism is. You always ask "why does it try to install 
version x.y-z when it damn well knows that this doesn't exist?"

I agree with you dude. Did I argue against this? I was simply 
correcting your (seeming) misunderstandings and FUD about what fink is 
capable of. We have to rely on dpkg's database, we have no choice in 
the current fink design.

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Re: [Fink-users] mutt failed on 10.3

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 16, 2003, at 10:26 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:

We were not talking about installed files, but about files avialable 
for installation.
Also we do have to also trust dpkg's 'body count' if it says there is a 
later version of a package which is already installed (even partial)... 
it is fully possible that a user could have dpkg or apt-get installed a 
higher version of a package from a binary, which is no longer available 
to be installed.  Fink really has nothing to install when you tell it 
to.

Fink will install a .deb binary if it is already-built when a user does 
fink install, for example. However in this case, there is no deb for 
the package, and there is no info file. In that case, fink can 
currently do nothing at all - in the future it could look in the 
apt-get repository, but it would not have found it there either.

When a package is only in the dpkg status file and not fink's package 
index it is marked as a 'dummy' entry. (see Package.pm ~355).  dummy 
entries generate the 'no package description available' error if they 
don't have a deb/info and you try to build or install them.

I don't know if there is a way for fink to tell that a dummy package 
only has config files left in the dpkg status db and isn't really 
installed. Perhaps fink could search for 'older' versions of the same 
package, as in this case, and ask if you would like to install that one 
instead, since the new one no longer exists. But it is also possible 
there are no older versions around either. Fink would also have to ask 
if you want to nuke your old config files.


What if, for exaample, the latest mutt version in 10.2/unstable would 
not build on 10.3, and one would be
forced to keep a lower version number in 10.3 at least for a while?
From what i can tell dpkg is really not set up at all to handle going 
backwards in version numbers at all. 'switching distributions' like 
this does not really happen in debian. I suspect correct fix would be 
to add an epoch to the lower version number in the 10.3 tree so it can 
be 'upgraded' to. I don't think we have any cases like this though.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Fwd: Bug #26567 [Opn->Bgs]: ld: Undefined symbols using --with-pspell=/sw

[Ben Hines]

Somehow the -laspell is not getting into the link line.

First just try what it says here:

http://fink.sourceforge.net/faq/usage-general.php#compile-myself

If that doesn't work, come back.

-Ben

On Dec 10, 2003, at 11:26 AM, GoochRules! wrote:

Does here anyone have any ideas about this?  It seems like a simple  
error, I hope its not just my system.

Begin forwarded message:

From: PHP Bug Database <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: December 09, 2003 16:14:25 MST
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Bug #26567 [Opn->Bgs]: ld: Undefined symbols using  
--with-pspell=/sw

ATTENTION! Do NOT reply to this email!
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 Updated by:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reported By:  goose23 at spu dot edu
-Status:   Open
+Status:   Bogus
 Bug Type: Compile Failure
 Operating System: Mac OS X
 PHP Version:  4CVS-2003-12-9
 New Comment:
Apparently your installation of aspell is broken.
(thanks to the aspell author who has been unable to decide whether it
should be called aspell, pspell or aspell..)
See:
  http://aspell.sourceforge.net/dist.txt
The compile works fine with RH9 aspell rpms. So I suggest you contact
the person who packaged aspell for macosx to fix  the package..


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[2003-12-09 16:39:59] goose23 at spu dot edu

Description:

I am attempting to build php on Mac OS X 10.3 with
pspell enabled.  I have aspell 0.50.2-10 installed via
fink (package manager version 0.17.1, distribution
version 0.6.2.cvs).  This is my configure script:
./configure --with-apxs --with-pspell=/sw

I get these undefined symbols during make:

ld: Undefined symbols:
_aspell_config_replace
_aspell_error_message
_aspell_error_number
_aspell_speller_add_to_personal
_aspell_speller_add_to_session
_aspell_speller_check
_aspell_speller_clear_session
_aspell_speller_error_message
_aspell_speller_error_number
_aspell_speller_save_all_word_lists
_aspell_speller_store_replacement
_aspell_speller_suggest
_aspell_string_enumeration_next
_aspell_word_list_elements
_delete_aspell_config
_delete_aspell_speller
_delete_aspell_string_enumeration
_new_aspell_config
_new_aspell_speller
_to_aspell_speller
make: *** [libs/libphp4.bundle] Error 1
If I add '-laspell -laspell-common -lstdc++' to
'EXTRA_LIBS' in the Makefile, make succeeds.  I have
tried this on php-4.3.4 and php4-STABLE-200312092030,
with the same results.


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Re: [Fink-users] Open GL libs cannot be found

[Ben Hines]

For fox looks like you just need  --with-opengl=opengl

There is a fink package in the 10.2-gcc3.3 tree. I'll move it over to 
10.3 tree.

-Ben

On Dec 17, 2003, at 6:20 AM, Alexander Hansen wrote:

It's probably not a Fink problem.

You may have to tell the package's configure script where the 
directory is, e.g. "./configure --with-GL=/usr/X11R6/include/GL".  If 
you run "./configure --help" there usually is a list of all of the 
options you can feed in to the configuration by hand.
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On Dec 17, 2003, at 1:45 AM, Carl Youngblood wrote:

This may or may not be a fink problem.  I'm trying to compile the Fox 
GUI toolkit from source (this is not a fink package, just a tarball). 
 It has a -lGL link directive in the makefile for linking in the 
opengl libs.  But it gets an error trying to find the right 
directory, even though the opengl stuff is in /usr/X11R6/include/GL.  
I just reinstalled fink (following the directions in the FAQ) and 
this time I used Apple's X11.  Does anyone know how I can make these 
autoconf scripts know where the GL stuff is?

Thanks,
Carl Youngblood


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Re: [Fink-users] minicom question

[Ben Hines]

This should be fixed now, i updated it to 2.1 and removed an outdated 
getopt patch which was causing the problem i suspect.

-Ben

On Dec 18, 2003, at 6:30 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:

I *know* it was working at one point...but that was back when I was 
running 10.2.  I didn't think to try it right away after a clean 
install of 10.3, so I just found out that it wasn't working now :-(

I can't seem to find any error logs about it either.

-Bart
On Dec 18, 2003, at 9:16 AM, Alexander K.Hansen wrote:
I tried it and saw the same behavior with the switches.
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On Dec 18, 2003, at 8:30 AM, Bart Silverstrim wrote:

I think I saw this question go out before but I couldn't find anyone 
who answered it...?

I have minicom installed, but I can't get it to run with any 
switches.  If I try sudo minicom -o or sudo minicom -s it just sits 
at the command prompt; I can type things, and characters are echoed 
back, but I'm still in the shell, as if minicom is hanging.  I 
control-c to get the prompt back.

If I do a sudo minicom or a sudo bash then minicom, I get the 
minicom interface.  I manually edited the /sw/etc/minirc.dfl file to 
reflect the right port (the keyspan USB adapter port) and it will 
now talk to the cisco equipment but it's still annoying since by 
default it's trying to "reset the modem" when it starts up :-/  
Thusfar I haven't had the Cisco try to interpret the commands as 
something legit, but...well...

I did a fink rebuild minicom and the behavior persists.

The current system is a G3 powerbook 800 mhz, Panther 10.3.2 
(although it did it with 10.3.1 too).

Fink -V yields a
Package manager version: 0.17.1
Distribution version: 0.6.2.cvs
I update via rsync.

any hints/solutions/etc.?

Thanks!
-Bart Silverstrim


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Re: [Fink-users] Re: [Fink-devel] fink-mirrors breaks selfupdate

[Ben Hines]

Try installing it with dpkg.

sudo dpkg -i /sw/fink/debs/fink_0.17.1-1_darwin-powerpc.deb

I must say i wish someone would have tested updating before making such 
a basic change to fink.

-Ben

On Dec 25, 2003, at 8:30 PM, Avram Dorfman wrote:

The "fix recipe" below does not work for me either. Somebody wrote to 
the developer list and said something about using "./inject.pl" to 
make it work; can somebody explain what he was talking about?

For me, the first step of the recipe itself fails for the same reason 
that fink is failing in the first place:

Spinnaker% sudo fink install fink-0.17.1-1
Password:
Information about 2183 packages read in 7 seconds.
The following package will be installed or updated:
 fink
Failed: No mirror site list file found for mirror 'master'.
Thanks,
Avram

On 12/25/03 12:34 PM, "Joseph C. Slater" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:

So how does one update fink now?
From an earlier email:

On 12/24/03 12:03 PM, "Martin Costabel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

I just wrote to the fink-devel with a recipe how to get out of this. 
In
most cases, the following should work:

fink install fink-0.17.1-1
fink fetch fink-mirrors
fink install fink-mirrors
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Re: [Fink-users] fink doesnt recognize installed binary packages

[Ben Hines]

The binary distro is simply behind the source distro. This basically 
always the case. No more information is needed.

One day we will add to fink the ability to hold packages at a certain 
revision, stick to binary packages via 'fink' command, etc, but not 
yet.

-Ben

On Dec 28, 2003, at 9:58 AM, Remi Mommsen wrote:

Hi Frank,

fink does recognise your installed packages, otherwise it wouldn't 
show you (i) in front of them. (i) means installed, thought a newer 
version is available mostly from sources. I guess that you miss some 
split-offs of these packages, but we need more information from you.

What is the output of 'fink install nicotine'? What gives 'fink list 
atk gtk+2'?

Cheers,
Remi
On Dec 28, 2003, at 3:24 AM, Frank Hoffsümmer wrote:

Hello fink-users,
I checked the docs, the FAQ and the mailing-list archive, but I 
couldn't  find a solution to my problem.

System is Mac OS X 10.3.2 with fink 0.17.1, XTools 1.1 and Apple X11

when I try to install a package from a custom-made .info file, fink 
doesn't recognize already installed binary packages that I installed 
with apt-get. I tried fink index etc.

I am installing nicotine with custom made nicotine.info file 
(http://captnswing.net/howto/nicotine/nicotine-1.0.6.info)

Now: fink list -i shows me atk and gtk+2 packages with (i) (I 
installed them before with apt-get)

but when I run fink install nicotine then fink still wants to install 
atk and gtk+2 from sources

I doesnt seem to recognize the already installed packages. What is 
missing?

thanks a lot for any insight
-frank
	



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Re: [Fink-users] Warning prebinding not disabled

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 31, 2003, at 4:45 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Michèle Garoche wrote:
[]
Are those warnings normal?
Yes, it appears so. At first, I found them not very logical - they 
shouldn't say "because", but "although" - but apparently you have to 
read them as "prebinding not (disabled because of foo)". In any case, 
they are not useful to anyone except possibly the maintainer of the 
fink prebinding system.

The cause of the warnings is fixed later by the fink prebinding system. 
It is also possible to set the address at link time and avoid the 
error, but that would require modifying every single package in fink.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] g77: why 3.4 ?

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 31, 2003, at 1:43 AM, Michel Peyrard wrote:

 I have having some difficulties compiling the plplot package and I
noticed that g77 provided by fink is 3.4 while gcc of the Apple 
Developer
tools is 3.3.

 There seems to be some inconsistency that could explain my problem.

You need to start with what the actual problem is, not what possible 
solutions might be... what is the problem? Post your installed 
versions, package version, os version, fink version, error output, etc 
etc...

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Broken libnet-pm dependency

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 30, 2003, at 1:43 PM, Martin Costabel wrote:

William Hunter wrote:
[]
dpkg: error processing
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/libs/perlmods/ 
libnet-pm58
1_1.17-10_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/sw/share/man/man3/Net::Cmd.3pm', which is also  
in
package libnet-pm
Remove the old libnet-pm first ("fink remove" or, if this fails  
because of dependency problems, "sudo dpkg -r --force-depends")
These can be easily fixed by the maintainer. Its been broken in fink  
since thesin modified all the perlmod packages.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] date-manip-pm581 -can't install, so can't do update-all

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 31, 2003, at 4:48 AM, Martin Costabel wrote:

Roberto Manuel Latorre wrote:
[]
dpkg: error processing  
/sw/fink/dists/unstable/main/binary-darwin-powerpc/libs/perlmods/ 
date-manip-pm581_5.42a-10_darwin-powerpc.deb (--install):
 trying to overwrite `/sw/share/man/man3/Date::Manip.3pm', which is  
also in package date-manip-pm
You have to remove the old version of date-manip-pm first ("fink  
remove date-manip-pm", and in case this does not work because of  
dependency problems, "sudo dpkg -r --force-depends date-manip-pm").  
Then continue installing whatever you were installing when this  
happened.


These can be easily fixed by the maintainer, such silly measures should  
not be needed. They have been broken in fink (for weeks) since thesin  
modified his perlmod packages.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] Bonobo-activation fails to compile

[Ben Hines]

On Dec 30, 2003, at 9:35 AM, Michèle Garoche wrote:

Le 30 déc. 2003, à 18:23, Martin Costabel a écrit :

Michèle Garoche wrote:
[]
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c: In function 
`bonobo_activation_server_by_forking':
bonobo-activation-fork-server.c:289: error: `LincWatch' undeclared
[]
Failed: compiling bonobo-activation2-1.0.3-22 failed
This has come up already two weeks ago. No solution has been proposed 
AFAICT. Maybe ask the maintainer?
Thanks, Martin, I'll ask him.

I don't think the maintainer cares. You're generally lucky to get any 
response from him at all. It has been broken much longer than 2 weeks - 
actually it has been broken since november 7, i have no idea how thesin 
compiled it at all. (bbraun also compiled it, i ended up using the 
unofficial bindist to install it)

Anyway I went ahead and fixed it, builds now.

-Ben



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Re: [Fink-users] cloning fink installation to another machine?

[Ben Hines]

I believe we have fixed that problem a while back. Should work with 
fink 0.18.0.

-Ben

On Jan 11, 2004, at 2:02 PM, John Hurst wrote:

G'day Mike,

One caveat: just make sure you use the 'proper' rsync, and not the hfs 
version.  I screwed my /sw up by (inadvertently) using the hfs version 
(duh).


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Re: [Fink-users] Wine?

[Ben Hines]

At 2:04 AM +0100 1/27/02, Max Horn wrote:
>At 18:46 Uhr -0600 26.01.2002, Douglas Wing wrote:
>>Can Wine be ported to MacOSX for install via Fink or would w32 apis cause
>>Darwin to vomit? :)
>
>Well, to put it with your words: the Intel x86 code would cause the 
>PowerPC processor to vomit.
>
>Nope, not without major changed, involving writing/adapting a 
>processor emulator and other major changes.

Actually...

http://wine.codeweavers.com/cgi-bin/fom?_highlightWords=mac&file=73

"We're thinking about porting Wine to Mac OS X."


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Re: [Fink-users] guile compilation failed

[Ben Hines]

At 3:45 PM +0100 2/20/02, Martin Costabel wrote:
>On mercredi, février 20, 2002, at 03:05 , Markus Feichtner wrote:
>
>>cpp-precomp: warning: errors during smart preprocessing, retrying
>>in basic mode
>>In file included from ltdl.c:46:
>>/usr/local/include/malloc.h:264: parse error before `u_short'
>>/usr/local/include/malloc.h:264: warning: no semicolon at end of
>>struct or union
>>/usr/local/include/malloc.h:265: warning: data definition has no
>>type or storage class
>>/usr/local/include/malloc.h:270: parse error before `}'
>>make[1]: *** [ltdl.lo] Error 1
>>make: *** [install-recursive] Error 1
>>###  failed, exit code 2
>>Failed: installing guile-1.4-3 failed
>>
>The easiest solution is to move the whole directory /usr/local out
>of the way while you are compiling Fink packages.


Actually, add #include  before the malloc include should work.

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