Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-20 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write:

<<  08:19 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote:
 >This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
 >
 >Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four
 >and came from Wisconsin?  He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA.
  >>

   Dave,  this boy is 1/2 brother to our Stallion, Nels, who is also out of 
Anvils Steinfin.   Is he yours?Do you have a picture?Lisa



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-20 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write:

<< I just had the LASIK procedure done
 to correct my vision
 which was terrible.  This surgery is like a miracle,  I can see very well,
 but right now my eyes get tired
 quickly and the winter dryness is irritating.  Anyhow, it was fun doing the
 Secret Santa,  I hope Cynthia
 will do it next year too.
 >>

  Would love to hear more about this surgery, please.  Private post is OK, 
not to offend the pure Fjordling stuff. Thanks, Lisa ( Blind as a bat ) 
Pedersen



Re: Self Cleaning Barn

2000-01-20 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

More, more - how wide was the belt?  Did it have sides?  Did it carry the
manure up to the top of a pile?  Have little "ore carts" on it?  You must
have thrown the manure out the back window - so no attached yards?
Inquiring minds want to know.

My personal problem is cleaning paddocks and creating contained manure
piles.  Can't run the wheelbarrow up on top of them - too heavy - so they
get too broad.  Need to build a bin that I can access from a shallow ramp, I
guess.  This is flat land, mostly, so putting at the base of a hill will not
work most places.  Even thought of digging out a pit, but do not have a
backhoe to remove the manure.


>Well, I've seen ALMOST a self cleaning barn!  A few  years ago we were in 
>France, and took a tour of the Cadre Noir.  They DID have a conveyor belt 
>that took manure down the backside of the barn.  Still needed human power to 
>load the thing though. 
>
>
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-20 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write:

<<   I may get a
 Wintec wide-tree western saddle to start out.  There, it's out.  I can
 handle all the scoffing and scorn, I'm sure.  I began riding in an English
 Wintec and found it to be just what I needed - cheap, light, indestructable,
 and reasonably well-fitting.  I now ride in a Crosby Soft Seat.  I expect to
 do the same kind of thing with the western saddle - find out what I really
 want before I invest in a nice one. >>

   OK Peg.I have an even better deal for you in a good cheap synthetic 
saddle.  We bought Cody the Thurogood ( sp ) from Stateline tack.  It is a 
Wintec knockoff and has been wonderful.  It is an all purpose saddle, deep 
seat for jumping, looks nice and is comfortable.  He rode Kaiser in it and 
took lessons all last summer, and you just hose it off when done.  It ran 
around 170.00.   Shipped free to our house when we ordered it from a 
Stateline store at a local Petsmart in Riverside.  Time we all came out of 
the closet.  I also ride in a synthetic Western saddle, and havnt had a 
complaint from my knees since.Go figure.Lisa Pedersen   who 
also wants a synthetic harness, Zilco.



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20

2000-01-20 Thread Pedfjords
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In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write:

<< 
 The Turlock auction is done by a local firm, Carlson Auctioneers.
 It's more of a draft and farming auction.
  >>

  What are the dates of the Turlock Draft horse sale and auction please?   
Lisa



Re: poop

2000-01-20 Thread Kim Gibson-Rogstad
This message is from: Kim Gibson-Rogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Hello all

  About the poop problem you could always get a hold of a topsoil company
and see if they would take it off your hands.They can use it in the
tripel mix soil and they will most of the time p/u for free,depending on
the amount you have.

Gunnar Rogstad



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is from: "Bushnell's"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> 
> Regarding "not shod in the winter."
> 
> We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and
> considered it more
> humane but can't recall the basis for the practise,
> just assumed the reason
> was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor.



 Ruthie
That's one reason for it - although I did use "sharp
shoes" with screw-in ice caulks on my riding mare in
the winter when I lived in Libby.  The metal shoes
didn't seem to bother her much.  I think most of us
pull the shoes in the winter because we don't use the
horses much in the winter, so keeping them shod is not
economically efficient.  Some of us do our own
trimming/filing when the horses are barefoot, which
also saves money.  Around here where it is so wet we
take the shoes off for the winter for a couple of
reasons: 1)hooves which are constantly wet get soft,
so the shoes come off accidentally more easily. 2)
hooves with shoes hold more 'gunk' than bare hooves,
and are harder to clean.  2) shoes lost or pulled off
in the deep mud are impossible to find - sometimes you
get lucky and find them in the summer, but by then
they are usually all bent up and rusty.  It's very
easy for a horse that walks in deep mud all the time
to step on the back of his front shoe and pull it off
- the mud messes up their timing I guess.

We have one mare (Line) who has NEVER had shoes on. 
Her feet are very tough with thick soles and walls. 
The farrier says he is glad he doesn't need to try to
drive a nail through those walls!  He recommends that
the horses go barefoot in the winter to allow time for
nail holes to grow out and to allow the foot to "rest"
and return to normal before the next season. 
Remember, shoes are something MAN introduced to the
horse.  It's an improvement when using them on rough,
rocky ground, but it's still an imperfect solution. 
Of course, some horses are shod year-round out of
necessity - either because of some foot problem, or
because they are used year-round and need their shoes
to protect their feet/give them proper traction for
their work.  When we did this back in Montana, we
tried to give the horse at least a few weeks off with
bare feet during a lag time in the work/competition he
was used for.

Mary
 

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Fw: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread Meredith Sessoms
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com 
Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 7:41 PM
Subject: Re: Dun looking for names?


>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>In a message dated 1/20/2000 8:48:31 AM Mountain Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>writes:
><< You QH people have it easy  >>
>
>just love horses and can find something to appreciate in just about any
>equine.  I would love to have one of all the different breeds.  I just
don't
>like people who cut down other people's horses.  Not that you did.

Sorry, I guess I did some fast writing and no proof reading.  I didn't
intend that to be a slight in the least!  In fact I meant it very off the
cuff and slightly sarcastic; I should of used a :-).  When I think of
finding nice Norwegian names when I don't know what they mean or how they
are pronounced, the American word play, Quarter Horse names are a breeze.
You QH people DO have it easy!:-)

I hope you people who are still up are looking at that moon ... it sure is
strange!

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
>>><<<   Dorina & NFR Aagot



Re: poop

2000-01-20 Thread Rebecca Mayer
This message is from: "Rebecca Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Denise,
Our manure is picked up once or twice a year, depending on the number
of horses we have, and spread on hay fields by a neighboring farmer.
Becky



Redford

2000-01-20 Thread Harold D. Kane
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Hi Friends,
It's been awhile since I've written, I check the list all the time. My
husband had a mild stroke on Monday, 48 years old. He'll be fine in time,
better every day. He is an engineer by trade. We were v ery lucky that we
caught high blood pressure with only this, a warning sign.

Regarding Redford, earlier I wrote asking about driving him as a 2 1/2 yr
old and riding him also. We had worked with a wonderful trainer mostly QT
horse people. They said go ahead walk, trot and canter now. I decided to
move Redford closer to home for the winter, outdoor board with 1 other nice
paint mare.  Before we moved him I took a lesson working him in a canter for
the 1st time under saddle. The trainers talented daughter got on him and
eventually got him to canter... what a sight. Stride, buck...stride,
buckstride, buck etc. etc.oh my! After only several minutes, I got on.
He really bucked hard, never did get him to canter. My trainer said. "maybe
those folks are right, wouldn't hurt him to take the winter to mature
mentally before we try that again."  I guess I don't want to baby him but
why rush the whole thing? I intend to walk, trott short times and ground
drive alot. Thanks for your ongoing help. I learn so much here. I do believe
that fjords are different than most breeds, I have so much to learn. sheri



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Denise Delgado
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dear ruthie,  my farrier told me that removing shoes in the winter gives the
foot a bit of a break.  it allows the hoof wall to expand and flatten out
the bottom of the sole so the frog can make better contact with the ground
and increases foot circulation with each step.  makes sense and sounds like
a good story.  he's a very good farrier, keeps up to date and is always
going to farrier seminars.  be interested in hearing from a farrier on this
one.  denise in clearing showers and blue sky on the horizon, northern
california.



Re: Meadowbrook Carts

2000-01-20 Thread KTPUGH
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Hi List,
We are fairly new to driving, but we have a meadow brook cart that we just 
love.  The other carts we've had have been easy entry and also some kind of 
homemade one that definitely wasn't easy entry.  But our meadow brook has a 
spring box.  The shafts attach to a spring that connects to the back of the 
seat.  The seat itself sits on the springs that are just above the wheels. 
The front of the seat box connects to the bar that goes between the two 
shafts. It is like riding on a cloud.  Our pony loves it too, because the 
shafts don't bounce on her either.  It is the neatest cart we've ever ridden 
in.  It's too bad, Lisa, that you got such an uncomfortable one.  Has anyone 
else had that kind of experience with a Meadow Brook?
Tami



Re: Horse Sleazy's

2000-01-20 Thread Karen McCarthy

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From: "Patti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Wondering if anyone out there has ever made or thought about making >a 
Sleazy for a Fjord


PUUULLLEEZE!!! do your self a favor and save the agony of picking the 
shredded bits of stretchy polyester by either putting in a floor drain for 
the pee, ( I'll tell you if you want to know how) or turning this fellow out 
in a paddock w/ more room.


Sorry ya'll, but how would you like being locked in a stall wearing wall to 
wall tight stretchy nylon all over YOUR bod??? Does not persent a very 
pleasant scenario

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Re: Drains

2000-01-20 Thread Rebecca Mayer
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I really don't know, Denise.  We had a gravel base laid under the concrete
and the drains filled with fairly large rocks, but the muddy muck that
sluices
off the floors when we wash them is very fine and packs in like mud and
we have to end the process by digging out and washing the large rocks also.
I thought I might use one of those open matted floor systems--the rubber
mats with the holes throughout that keep the floor from washing out, but
drain well, instead of concrete.  Also the solid concrete causes smells to
build up when urine is trapped between the mats and the floor.  It is
difficult to get enough slope to cause good draining without also getting a
very uncomfortable
slope to the floor. Another problem is that it is a back breaker to try to
move
those heavy rubber mats.  We talk them outside and clean them, disinfect the
floors and walls of the staff for foaling, then replace them.
Re other comments:  We have screened and stormed windows in the
stalls and like the barred stalls as the stallion could not mess with other
horses going up and down the aisles and we had the whole aisle to work in.
The stalls have recessed spots that would hold a heat lamp--never needed.
Vets love our barn because of the cement floor, the hot water handy and
the great lighting.
Becky



Offical military art on the web

2000-01-20 Thread Meredith Sessoms
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Artistic Documentation of Norway
NATO EXERCISES 1984
These paintings & drawings are part of
THE MARINE CORPS ART COLLECTION
~ by Colonel D.J. Neary, USMCR ~
http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway.htm
With a Fjording in this drawing!:
http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway10.htm



Re: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread KTPUGH
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In a message dated 1/20/2000 8:48:31 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL 
PROTECTED] 
writes:

<< You QH people have it easy  >>
I loved your Dun names they were teriffic!  But since I live in Utah where 
90% of the horses are QH, and my kids are in 4-H where all the show rules and 
Judges favor QHs and we are always definding our choice of riding Arabians 
and now Fjords, I just can't sit here and be called a QH person.  Sorry, no 
offence,  we do have one QH, and her baby, because my 6' 1' son was getting 
penalized for being too big for the 14'3' Arabian he was riding in 4-H.  And 
we do like her a lot!  But our focus is on Arabians,Fjords, and ponies.  
Since Arabians don't come in Buckskin or dun and I have a fetish for those 
colors, of course our token QH is buckskin.  This all means that we are 
having a blast with a breed, the Fjords, that are homozygous for the dun 
gene.  So, sorry, but we have had quite a time with some of the QH people.  I 
just love horses and can find something to appreciate in just about any 
equine.  I would love to have one of all the different breeds.  I just don't 
like people who cut down other people's horses.  Not that you did.

Tami in Utah
Where we have a herd of kids, and horses



Re: Norwegian folk art www site

2000-01-20 Thread Meredith Sessoms
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>Just found this site:
>
>http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/


There is an ulsdun on an old plate in the BONDESTANDEN section, and more
Fjords in the hunter section.

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
>>><<<   Dorina & NFR Aagot



Re: poop

2000-01-20 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

that is a good questionwhat do all of you do with your manure and piles?
my neighbors have taken their share for their gardens and really don't want
anymore.  maybe it is the work involved.  my pile just keeps growing.  we
spread it in the veggie garden area and i use it on my roses and summer
flowers, but i still have too much!!!  denise-piled high in calif.  ouch!!!



Norwegian folk art www site

2000-01-20 Thread Meredith Sessoms
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Just found this site:

http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/

Wonderful stuff.
The  IDEALSKIKKELSEN part has at least two Fjordinger.

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA
>>><<<   Dorina & NFR Aagot
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tonight ...
hope these clouds roll on out of here!)



Re: Horse sleazy's

2000-01-20 Thread Alison Barr
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Hmm, Light-colored horses.  I was introduced to Fjords when my pony went
lame just before the 4 biggest shows of the year (kicked out at the high
country int. combined driving event).  I missed the driving,  borrowed a
Skitzo thoroughbred for the S.A. championships, and then I borrowed a
Fjord (Iggy).  He had one week to learn to canter, to do dressage, to
learn about commercial horse trailers, ect.  And, more to the point, we
had to get him clean!  Not that big a deal, he didn't look that dirty,
so we started to wash.  The mud that came off that pony!  He was
referred thereafter as the color changing pony.  I think we can get away
with a lot of dirt with these guys (It makes their coats lousy, though) 

Ps: If you're wondering, we made it to the Reg. Champs and got some good
marks.  8 on enter in working trot, 8 on halt, 0 on canter!  The second
show was canceled due to snow.  I got my Fj 2 weeks later.  Thoroughly
impressed with Iggy.



Re: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread KTPUGH
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Lisa,

Good dun to the last drop.
Sorry, Tami



winter shod

2000-01-20 Thread Bushnell's
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Jean, thanks for your response to my comment, that was an interesting post
on winter hoof wear. Our son uses the borium shoes and pads in the
wintertime too and swears by them. I guess we might try them if we rode
more in the winter but it's bobsled and sleigh time for us. =)) Ruthie 



Re: Welcome Mat is here.

2000-01-20 Thread KTPUGH
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Denise,
Nobody could'ave Dun it better!
I really enjoyed your ideas.
Tami



Re: Barns

2000-01-20 Thread Denise Delgado
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

dear becky,  in regards to the drains;  how would you change them?  maybe no
drains and just a sloped cement floor to an outside source (the yard or
pasture), that way there would be no clogging problem.  thx, denise



Re: Self Cleaning Barn

2000-01-20 Thread Northhorse
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In a message dated 1/20/00 9:03:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<<  S if anyone has the self  cleaning barn... let me know. I have 30 
plus horses, I would love to test it  out on. Catherine L. >>

Well, I've seen ALMOST a self cleaning barn!  A few  years ago we were in 
France, and took a tour of the Cadre Noir.  They DID have a conveyor belt 
that took manure down the backside of the barn.  Still needed human power to 
load the thing though.  And they hot walker they had was impressive.  It 
looked almost like a children's carousel, it was an enclosed building, you 
could see the horse from shoulder up, it had a roof, and it had partitions 
between each horse.  BTW, I also saw a fjord, about a half mile from the 
school, going through lovely dressage paces.  Actually saw a few fjords 
during the whole trip.

Pamela



Re: Horse Sleazy's

2000-01-20 Thread GAIL RUSSELL
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Someone on another list posted about a sad accident associated with a
sleazy.  It was the kind that goes over the face (maybe they all do).  Got
twisted around and rubbed on a horse's cornea.  As I remember the damage was
pretty severe - maybe blindness in that eye.  The one time someone put a
sleazy on one of my young horses overnight it got twisted around - and
apparently could have been hazardess.  At the time we just thought he looked
pretty funny in it.

At 01:56 PM 1/20/2000 EST, you wrote:
>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Patti,
>
>Good idea but whoever does it better put a long opening at the top for the 
>mane.  I'd hate to smash it down!
>
>Susan
>
>
Gail Russell
Forestville CA
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Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Heyvaert
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Joni,

I keep an EZ boot on hand for the time when one of my horses throws a shoe 
but have never used it for riding.  I always thought if we went to the Black 
Hills to trail ride (it is very rocky terrain) that I might try them.  They 
are awfully expensive and you can't really alternate them much between horses 
because they come in a bunch of different sizes -- unless, of course, your 
horses have the same size hooves.

Susan



Re: Horse Sleazy's

2000-01-20 Thread Heyvaert
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Patti,

Good idea but whoever does it better put a long opening at the top for the 
mane.  I'd hate to smash it down!

Susan



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Jean Ernest
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

>
>Regarding "not shod in the winter."
>
>We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and considered it more
>humane but can't recall the basis for the practise, just assumed the reason
>was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor. Ruthie


Generally the "winter shoes" here are put on with pads, either the
'Huf-grip" rim snow pad or full pads so maybe that insulates them.  I just
got the summer shoes removed and the winter  shoes and pads put on my guys
yesterday ...HOORAY!!!... My farrier thought that it was better to leave
the plates on rather than remove them if he couldn't put the other shoes
on, and it has worked out ok.  He is VERY careful not to trim short when
the weather might drop to the -40's etc. and didn't take much off their
hooves yeasterday for that reason.  He says that some other farriers have
trimmed hooves too short for the cold conditions and horses have had
problems.  He wouldn't trim the girls at all yesterday for that reason even
tho they were a bit long.

The reason he wanted to leave the summer plates on rather than just take
shoes off when it was too cold to put the others on was that the ground was
so hard that taking the shoes off would have caused more problems than
leaving them on.  I trust my farrier and he sure knows his business shoeing
here in the extremes of Alaska!

After the boys got their borium shoes and pads yesterday they discovered
that they had a lot more traction and 25 year old Bjarne went racing and
bucking around the paddock, stopping occasionnaly to roll in the snow.
Before, he had acted as if he wanted to roll, pawing and starting to get
down, but then would decide against it, as his shoes must have felt
slippery perhaps.  but now he rolls with abandon to get the snow off his
back then bounces up with a buck and races around chasing the others.

We are enjoying balmy temps here, +25 degrees and we had about 18 inches of
snow over the last few days.  Sure glad I have a snow bloer as there would
be no place to PUSH the snow!  I still have to dig out the pickup and
shovel snow off the deck ( Maybe try to get the snowblower on the deck to
do that)  then I can think about snowblowing the little arena and maybe I
can actually RIDE!  Hey, wouldn't THAT be a nice change..wonder if I
remember how? LOL

So when it is COLD here, it is WARM down there in the lower 48...And when
it is Cold down there, we get the balmy weather! I like it this way..you
folks can enjoy winter for a while!

Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, Almost shirt sleeve weather at +25!  

Jean Ernest
Fairbanks, Alaska
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Re: Favorite idea or feature

2000-01-20 Thread Lori Albrough
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Here's a really simple little idea that all our visitors comment on. 

We have a 32'x24' run-in shed attached to the south end of our barn. The
run-in shed door opens onto the main barn aisle, and this is a favorite
place for horses to put their heads in and socialize a bit. On either side
of the doorway, at about head height, we attached softish dandy brushes
(with countersunk screws). The horses come up and rub the itchy spots on
their heads & necks on these brushes. So cute. 

Not self-cleaning maybe, but self-grooming.

Lori A.



Re: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread linda hickam
This message is from: "linda hickam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Some friends of mine were expecting another dun Connemara baby from their
dun mare who was bred to a dun stallion.What came was a bright bay filly
they named " Un-Dun ".Linda
--
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
>Subject: Dun looking for names?
>Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2000, 2:12 AM
>

>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>In a message dated 00-01-19 13:33:35 EST, you write:
>
><<  We bred our QH mare to 
> a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun.  And we're looking 
>for 
> a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it.  I hope we can make it, we just 
> have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I 
>think 
> that it helps to get all the exposure we can.
> Thanks,Tami
>  >>
>
>We had a QH Dun gelding, whos registered name was, "  Show Um How Its Dun 
>" .he was a dun, of course.   His barn name was " Dundee "  Lisa 
>Pedersen
>   Always thought " Ride, Till He's Dun " would be cute also.
>
>
>
>



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Bushnell's
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>


Regarding "not shod in the winter."

We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and considered it more
humane but can't recall the basis for the practise, just assumed the reason
was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor. Ruthie

At 11:21 AM 01/20/2000 -0500, you wrote:
>This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>Our one experience with ezboots as a means to protect an injured 
>hoof for a short time was very positive. They are expensive, and 
>getting a good fit is not easy, but we are considering buying sets 
>for one of our teams which are normally not shod during the winter.
>
>



Re: Favorite idea or feature

2000-01-20 Thread Heyvaert
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We just built a barn 3 years ago and toured every barn of every friend and 
boarding facility we could to get ideas.

My favorite features we incorporated when building our barn are:

Sliding screen doors that keep virtually all the pesty flies and 
mosquitos out of the barn.  We have them at both ends where the garage doors 
come down and keep the screens closed during the day to keep bugs out but 
allow the breeze to go through.

Automatic waterers -- wouldn't ever go without them!

Gossip doors that allow the horses to put their heads into the aisle a 
bit to see who's coming.  It's so cute to see all their heads pop out when I 
open the door to the refrigerator to get the carrots.

Larger than standard windows in the stalls.  A person once told me those 
windows are the horses' TV.  (Of course, they can't see out of them right now 
because they're all frosted up!)

Hay drops that are located above each stall instead of the aisleway to 
keep the mess to a minimum when we drop hay.  The horses get to clean up the 
"mess" that way!

A ceiling/wall mounted heater on a thermostat for the feed room to keep 
the feed that has molasses in it from clumping up and freezing (i.e.  Senior 
Feed, etc.)



I think that hits the high points.  Susan in frigid MN (-27 degree wind chill 
today!)



Self Cleaning Barn

2000-01-20 Thread Catherine Lassesen
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Gayle,
If you can come up with a self cleaning barn let me know. My father when he
first came up here, everyday would come up with ideas. A conveyor belt
system behind the butts; A conveyor belt in the center alley; A hole in the
floor and teach them to use the potty; A machine on the back wall that would
shake the shavings and then take the manure off to a pile.  Can you tell the
man is a Mr.. Gadget man. I would laugh and ask how to keep the item safe
and he would go back to the drawing board.  S if anyone has the self
cleaning barn... let me know. I have 30 plus horses, I would love to test it
out on. Catherine L.



Reply to Fred

2000-01-20 Thread Catherine Lassesen
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Fred, It was 354 days. She waxed up on 352. She was a different mare in the
fact that she ate like a HOG up until the minute she had legs sticking out.
Then she finally laid down and with a big push, spit him out. Then I gave
her the bran mash and she stayed down until it was all gone. By then, Numann
was out of the bag and had moved over to Kristi's head. We imprinted for an
hour and then Mama got up and baby got up and he knew immediately where the
Milk Bar was. Enjoy the birthing in Feb. We have an AQHA mare due Feb 1st.
So it is time to do it all over again. I LOVE IT! Catherine L.



Re: winter weather

2000-01-20 Thread wcoli
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Date sent:  Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:57:41 -0500 (EST)
From:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject:Re: winter weather
To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com
Send reply to:  fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com

> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> Speaking about weather, it was 80 degrees in California, today, with a nice 
> breeze. I rode in a tee-shirt. Where's that cold snap, again?
> 

I think it's right around the corner from those brush fires that 
burn up thousands of acres in "the golden west". [:o)



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread wcoli
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Our one experience with ezboots as a means to protect an injured 
hoof for a short time was very positive. They are expensive, and 
getting a good fit is not easy, but we are considering buying sets 
for one of our teams which are normally not shod during the winter.



Re: saddles...again!!!!!!

2000-01-20 Thread Mary Thurman
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--- Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> This message is from: "Denise Delgado"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> thanks mary,
> your post was educating for me in regards to
> saddles.  why do so many people
> out there like (love) those aussie saddles? 

Good question.  Admittedly, they are not cheap if you
buy the 'real thing' made in Australia!  I think it is
because they are more secure than an english saddle,
but not as 'restrictive' as a western saddle.  Plus
the 'style' of them is more english looking.  Also,
for people who are looking for a non-english saddle to
fit a Fjord, they used to be about the only game in
town.  I've seen a couple of recent posts which say
they are 'heavy' - 30 to 32 pounds.  Guess these
people haven't lifted an older western saddle lately! 
The really new western saddles - made of Cordura and
other synthetics - are around 25 pounds, but my old
one weighs around 40 pounds.  Uff Da!!  However, my
horse is pretty short so it isn't all that far up to
his back from the saddle rack.


 what
> are the benefits verses
> disavantages to the forward sitting placments and
> also the legs?

The Aussie puts your seat at about the same place as
you would sit on the horse if riding bareback.  It's
easier to balance there, and it's easier on the horse.
 He can balance the rider's weight better if it is
more towards his withers.  If you sit right in the
middle of his back, his back gets tired, and the gaits
feel rougher to the rider.  Also, if he makes a sudden
movement, it's harder to catch your balance if you are
right in the middle of his back.  An Aussie has 'free
swinging' stirrups, like an english saddle, so you can
position your legs forward, center, or in between -
keeps your legs from getting as tired, takes the
strain off your lower back, makes balancing easier. 
You actually sit in it with your thighs under the
"poley" ears, knees slightly bent, heels down, leg
going slightly forward of your butt.  In the older
western saddles this was NOT possible.  Your leg went
straight down and stayed that way.  Not very
comfortable over a long ride.  
 
but then i/ve
> heard they can be a bugger to get out of in a
> hurry... 

I've never had any trouble 'bailing out' of one.  Only
did it a couple of times, though.  Guess you need to
be familiar enough with the saddle to remember that
your leg has to come back - out from under the 'poley'
- before you can jump off.  Believe me, you are more
apt to get your jacket or shirt caught on the horn of
a western saddle when bailing out, than to get stuck
in an Aussie.  Of course, the idea is supposed to be
that you don't "bail out" - that's why the Aussie is
built like it is, so the rider can stay put no matter
what the horse does.

Mary

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Raintree Farms
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Re: Barns

2000-01-20 Thread FofDFJORDS
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Hi Everyone,

The question about barns was an excellent one.  There is nothing like the 
'been there, done that', experience to draw from - before, not after, the 
fact!

When my husband, Pat , and I relocated our ranch, lock, livestock, and barrel 
(feeders) 5 years ago, we purchased a commercial chicken operation and set 
about converting it to a horse facility.  An awfully AMBITIOUS project!

My barn is 250' long and built on a fill for good drainage.  After spending 
much time on the 'drawing board', here is what we ended up with.  Eighteen 
12x12 rubber matted box stalls, one 'overflow' smaller stall which houses the 
tractor when not needed for a horse, one 10x10 storage area for misc, stuff 
like cart, log for skidding practice, jump standards, etc., totally enclosed 
feed room with sliding exterior door for easy access when unloading grain, 
110 long indoor arena, enclosed, heated, tack room, hay storage for about 5 
ton, and an office. 

Chickens aren't very tall so our rafters are at about 10 feet, pretty low for 
horses, but doable.  If we had started from scratch, the rafters would've 
been at 16', but had to make do with what we had.

The alley is 16' wide, a very nice feature.  The native soil here is clay.  
Most of the time that's a pain to deal with, but does make for a nice, hard 
surface for the alley.  It is somewhat uneven in places and we will likely 
have to do some levelling sooner or later, but makes for safe footing for 
horses as opposed to concrete or asphalt.  It is fairly easy to clean with a 
leaf blower and looks spotless after blowing.

Each stall has it's own tie ring for grooming and saddling.  I really dislike 
cross-ties.  Seems that someone is always needing to get by or horses are 
fussing with each other when there are cross-ties in an alley.  There is also 
a 'groom room' in one corner of the arena with a plug in for electric 
clippers.

Each stall has solid 8' walls between stalls and stall fronts are 1x2 wire.  
Each stall has a feed door with feeder just inside.  Any exposed wood edges 
are covered with metal to discourage 'beavers".  I prefer solid stall walls 
between stalls for a couple of reasons.  HEALTH being the number one 
priority, I do not want horses to be able to sniff noses.  If a new horse 
comes into the barn, it can be in quarantine, rather than risking it bringing 
some disease with it and passing it 'along the line' to everyone else.  
Another reason is that some horses like their own space and do not appreciate 
a neighbor constantly bugging them.  The third reason for solid walls, is 
stallions.  Any one of my stalls can house a stallion without problems.

I prefer the wire fronts as opposed to the bar type because sometimes the 
bars are just far enough apart to get tiny foal feet and legs through if they 
jump up, which they will often do, if mom is taken out for a ride or for 
weaning.

Each of our stalls has a 2x2 window, again covered by wire.  We installed 
those upon the advice of a veterinarian.  He told us to be sure that our barn 
had good ventillation, otherwise we could just plan on having him visit 3-4 
times a year to treat upper respitory problems.  The barn is situated so that 
the 'weather' does not come in the windows.  Our winters are pretty mild here 
in Oregon, but we do get a ton of rain.  The horses basically have to live 
inside most of the winter.  Having the open windows gives the horses less of 
a caged feeling and I will often see them watching outside or simply sniffing 
the breezes.

Each stall has a 4', double bulb, flourescent light installed above the 
rafters, out of harm's way.  The bulbs each have plastic covers for safety 
and fire protection.  I prefer flourescent lighting as there are no shadows.  
The down side to them is that they can get a bit 'fussy' when the weather is 
cold, but overall prefer that type of lighting.

We installed several sliding doors along the sides and ends for emergency 
exits - God forbid that we should ever have a fire!  Sure wouldn't want to 
have critters trapped at the far end of this barn with no way out!!

The entire interior of the barn is painted white to make it feel and look 
bigger, open and airy.  Dark barns are a drudge for people and horses alike.

The office is my favorite place.  Pat outdid himself there.  It is 12x16, 
carpeted and heated.  It contains my desk, couch, 4 windows, one to the 
alley, 2 to the outside, and one to the adjacent foaling stall, wire covered, 
of course.  There is a wardrobe closet (Pat purchased for $7 at an auction 
and refinished it for my office), an entertainment center (Pat purchased an 
old colsole color TV for $5 at an auction, gutted and remodeled it) which 
contains a TV, VCR, microwave, coffee pot etc.  And, of course there is the 
refrigerator, sometimes well stocked for people, but usually has horse drugs 
in it!  The foaling stall is next to my office.  It is 12x12 with a removabe 
w

Re: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread sini seppala
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How about Dunderella or Dad's Dun It Great. 
What is the sire called? Glad? Then it could be Glad's Dun It Great. Or
Right or Fine etc.
Good luck & best regards
Sini. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> In a message dated 00-01-19 13:33:35 EST, you write:
> 
> <<  We bred our QH mare to
>  a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun.  And we're looking
> for
>  a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it.  I hope we can make it, we just
>  have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I
> think
>  that it helps to get all the exposure we can.
>  Thanks,Tami
>   >>
> 
> We had a QH Dun gelding, whos registered name was, "  Show Um How Its Dun
> " .he was a dun, of course.   His barn name was " Dundee "  Lisa
> Pedersen
>Always thought " Ride, Till He's Dun " would be cute also.



Re: Dun looking for names?

2000-01-20 Thread Meredith Sessoms
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You QH people have it easy ... I put the word 'done' into a search engine at
a CD sales site and came up with all kinds of names, same could be dun at
Amazon.com or IMDB.  Hope this helps:

Soon Be Dun
Hank Dun It
Brother Dun It
Daddy's Dun
Can Be Dun
What Love Has Dun
Love Has Dun
Said 'n' Dun
Dun For Love
How It's Dun
Will Be Dun
All Been Dun
Deeds Dun
The Deed Is Dun
Boy Dun Good
Run Til Your Dun
Dun 'n' Dusted

Historical and geographical names:

Dunedin
Dunkirk
St. Dunstan
Dunsterforce

>>><<<   Meredith Sessoms
>>><<<   Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA 
(where it is chilly, windy and spittin' snow!)
>>><<<   Dorina & NFR Aagot



Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread SorgerJ
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In a message dated 1/19/00 6:43:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< Anyone out there tried E-Z Boots on thier Fjord?  I haven't had shoes on 
my 
 91/2 yr. old gelding for about 4yrs.  The only time I feel he would need 
 protection is when we trailer to a park that has rocky areas and that's not 
 very often, so I thought perhaps E-Z Boots would be the way to go.  They're 
 also supposed to be good for winter riding.  Any comments?  Joni in 
Wisconsin 
 where we are enjoying one of the finest mild winters that I can remember!
  >>

I use E-Z Boots on my Fjords and they work well. Katrina is shod and padded 
most of the year but I like to give her feet a break in the winter so we 
switch to E-Z Boots. We drive on dirt road, some are covered in large gravel. 
I have been ponying my 20 month old filly, Heather, behind the cart since she 
was a year old, and as she is too young to be shod I also use E-Z Boots on 
her. The only problem I have had is when we move from gravel to pavement, 
especially where the gravel is on the pavement, we get a bit of sliding. 
My girl friend only uses E-Z Boots on her Fjord, for riding and driving, and 
has had no problem. We both use a velcro strap hooked into the back of the 
boot and around the ankle so we don't loose a boot in mud, water or because a 
horse has stepped on the back of a boot and pulled it off.
E-Z Boots are not cheap but they are less expensive than keeping shoes on all 
the time and protect my Fjords feet well. Hope this helps. 
 Sue



a Lil' Bit of Cowgirl

2000-01-20 Thread Handwovens by Jill
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For the cowgirl in ya -- For sale:  cute little pin and earring set.
$12.00.  E-mail me privately. Photo available.  Thanks.
Jill in Oregon

Handwovens by Jill
"What you have in mind I'll put into design!"
Website Address:  http://www.spiritone.com/~jillhack



Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #19

2000-01-20 Thread FofDFJORDS
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In a message dated 1/19/00 10:33:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

<< This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Gayle,
 We haven't decided yet if we can make it up that far, but we would really 
 like to, you're on the list we got from Catherine, we'll call and make an 
 appointment if we can.  We would love to see what you are doing at the Field 
 of Dreams.  Thankyou very much for your friendliness, it is wonderful.
 Thanks,   Tami Pugh
  >>
Tami,

I'm not certain where your equine interests lie, driving or riding.  I drive 
some, but in my barn, the focus is on riding.  My students ride their Fjords 
English, bareback, and Western.  My favorite is Western.  I am the one who 
does the Reining and Cutting with my Fjords.   Last week end we had visitors 
from out of town and a couple of the gals came to demonstrate their Fjords.  
One rode English, one bareback, and our old (24) King Herald mare, Molde, 
carried a young girl.  I stood back by myself for a few moments and just 
'drank' in the panorama with pride.  It was such a cool sight.

Anyway, if riding is what you are interested in, think you would enjoy the 
spectacle.  Do let me know if time will permit you to visit my barn and I 
will see if the gals can take the time to do it again.

Gayle Ware
Field of Dreams
Eugene, OR 



RE: Thanks SS

2000-01-20 Thread Turcotte, Dianne
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Tillie,

I'm glad to know that you like the things that I got you.  It was fun
finding the fiord things,
but my daughter and I wanted to keep them for ourselves!  I am just
recovering from
eye surgery, so I won't write too much.  I just had the LASIK procedure done
to correct my vision
which was terrible.  This surgery is like a miracle,  I can see very well,
but right now my eyes get tired
quickly and the winter dryness is irritating.  Anyhow, it was fun doing the
Secret Santa,  I hope Cynthia
will do it next year too.

:)Dianne



Re: Mike/Steve

2000-01-20 Thread Mike May, Registrar NFHR

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At 08:19 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote:

This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four
and came from Wisconsin?  He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA.


Sure I can.  Here it is:

LASSE  CFC-I-756-SG
Foaled May 14, 1995
Bred by CLINT F. CONVERSE,  MONTLEY,  MN


STEINFINN  N-1858  2.pr
ORRJO  N-1946  C-369  Sl.
LENDA  N-13690  2.pr
ANVIL'S STEINFINN  C-462 AA-A-131-S
PRINCE  C-39
QUEEN  C-51 FAM-P-1458-M
FREYA  C-38

PRINCE  C-39
ANDRE  221-B
KAREN  C-35
INGIBJORG  2165-B
GORM  129-A
HEIDIS  2096-B
BRYNHILD  2046-A  AFS



===

Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry
Mike May, Registrar
Voice 716-872-4114
FAX 716-787-0497

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Re: E-Z BOOTS

2000-01-20 Thread Rebecca Mayer
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I did try e-z boots and they are great for an emergency, but they were
always a struggle to get on and could be thrown off with enough action.
Becky



Auction in Prinville OR

2000-01-20 Thread Catherine Lassesen
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OOOPS! I forgot to mention where the auction would  be... Prineville, OR.
North Eastern Oregon... Where is the brain??? Baby Numann is wonderful. Boy,
I see Trinity's Samstein in him all the time.  Numann is walking very
politely under halter to the arena with his mama... Then he cuts loose and
spins and plays and bucks and jumps over the jumps (18 inches max) that are
in the arena. He is fun to watch. Mama just looks for food, takes a roll and
then looks bored. Numann find more things to get his attention... Oh foals
are so fun. Anyone wanting an Equine midwife... send your mare to
meI love the foals! Catherine L



Re: Trees & Pictures / Joni

2000-01-20 Thread sini seppala
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Hi Joni
The page is in both Finnish and English. Perhaps there was something
wrong with the address - here it is once again. Hope you'll get through
All the best to all,
Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html


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> Sini:  I tried to view your web-site, but I did not know where to go, as
> it is all in "Finish"???  Could you let me know how to find the pictures?
>  Thanks, Joni @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]