Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write: << 08:19 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four >and came from Wisconsin? He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA. >> Dave, this boy is 1/2 brother to our Stallion, Nels, who is also out of Anvils Steinfin. Is he yours?Do you have a picture?Lisa
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write: << I just had the LASIK procedure done to correct my vision which was terrible. This surgery is like a miracle, I can see very well, but right now my eyes get tired quickly and the winter dryness is irritating. Anyhow, it was fun doing the Secret Santa, I hope Cynthia will do it next year too. >> Would love to hear more about this surgery, please. Private post is OK, not to offend the pure Fjordling stuff. Thanks, Lisa ( Blind as a bat ) Pedersen
Re: Self Cleaning Barn
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> More, more - how wide was the belt? Did it have sides? Did it carry the manure up to the top of a pile? Have little "ore carts" on it? You must have thrown the manure out the back window - so no attached yards? Inquiring minds want to know. My personal problem is cleaning paddocks and creating contained manure piles. Can't run the wheelbarrow up on top of them - too heavy - so they get too broad. Need to build a bin that I can access from a shallow ramp, I guess. This is flat land, mostly, so putting at the base of a hill will not work most places. Even thought of digging out a pit, but do not have a backhoe to remove the manure. >Well, I've seen ALMOST a self cleaning barn! A few years ago we were in >France, and took a tour of the Cadre Noir. They DID have a conveyor belt >that took manure down the backside of the barn. Still needed human power to >load the thing though. > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write: << I may get a Wintec wide-tree western saddle to start out. There, it's out. I can handle all the scoffing and scorn, I'm sure. I began riding in an English Wintec and found it to be just what I needed - cheap, light, indestructable, and reasonably well-fitting. I now ride in a Crosby Soft Seat. I expect to do the same kind of thing with the western saddle - find out what I really want before I invest in a nice one. >> OK Peg.I have an even better deal for you in a good cheap synthetic saddle. We bought Cody the Thurogood ( sp ) from Stateline tack. It is a Wintec knockoff and has been wonderful. It is an all purpose saddle, deep seat for jumping, looks nice and is comfortable. He rode Kaiser in it and took lessons all last summer, and you just hose it off when done. It ran around 170.00. Shipped free to our house when we ordered it from a Stateline store at a local Petsmart in Riverside. Time we all came out of the closet. I also ride in a synthetic Western saddle, and havnt had a complaint from my knees since.Go figure.Lisa Pedersen who also wants a synthetic harness, Zilco.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #20
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 00-01-20 11:16:53 EST, you write: << The Turlock auction is done by a local firm, Carlson Auctioneers. It's more of a draft and farming auction. >> What are the dates of the Turlock Draft horse sale and auction please? Lisa
Re: poop
This message is from: Kim Gibson-Rogstad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hello all About the poop problem you could always get a hold of a topsoil company and see if they would take it off your hands.They can use it in the tripel mix soil and they will most of the time p/u for free,depending on the amount you have. Gunnar Rogstad
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Bushnell's <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Bushnell's" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > Regarding "not shod in the winter." > > We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and > considered it more > humane but can't recall the basis for the practise, > just assumed the reason > was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor. Ruthie That's one reason for it - although I did use "sharp shoes" with screw-in ice caulks on my riding mare in the winter when I lived in Libby. The metal shoes didn't seem to bother her much. I think most of us pull the shoes in the winter because we don't use the horses much in the winter, so keeping them shod is not economically efficient. Some of us do our own trimming/filing when the horses are barefoot, which also saves money. Around here where it is so wet we take the shoes off for the winter for a couple of reasons: 1)hooves which are constantly wet get soft, so the shoes come off accidentally more easily. 2) hooves with shoes hold more 'gunk' than bare hooves, and are harder to clean. 2) shoes lost or pulled off in the deep mud are impossible to find - sometimes you get lucky and find them in the summer, but by then they are usually all bent up and rusty. It's very easy for a horse that walks in deep mud all the time to step on the back of his front shoe and pull it off - the mud messes up their timing I guess. We have one mare (Line) who has NEVER had shoes on. Her feet are very tough with thick soles and walls. The farrier says he is glad he doesn't need to try to drive a nail through those walls! He recommends that the horses go barefoot in the winter to allow time for nail holes to grow out and to allow the foot to "rest" and return to normal before the next season. Remember, shoes are something MAN introduced to the horse. It's an improvement when using them on rough, rocky ground, but it's still an imperfect solution. Of course, some horses are shod year-round out of necessity - either because of some foot problem, or because they are used year-round and need their shoes to protect their feet/give them proper traction for their work. When we did this back in Montana, we tried to give the horse at least a few weeks off with bare feet during a lag time in the work/competition he was used for. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Fw: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Date: Thursday, January 20, 2000 7:41 PM Subject: Re: Dun looking for names? >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 1/20/2000 8:48:31 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] >writes: ><< You QH people have it easy >> > >just love horses and can find something to appreciate in just about any >equine. I would love to have one of all the different breeds. I just don't >like people who cut down other people's horses. Not that you did. Sorry, I guess I did some fast writing and no proof reading. I didn't intend that to be a slight in the least! In fact I meant it very off the cuff and slightly sarcastic; I should of used a :-). When I think of finding nice Norwegian names when I don't know what they mean or how they are pronounced, the American word play, Quarter Horse names are a breeze. You QH people DO have it easy!:-) I hope you people who are still up are looking at that moon ... it sure is strange! >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: poop
This message is from: "Rebecca Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Denise, Our manure is picked up once or twice a year, depending on the number of horses we have, and spread on hay fields by a neighboring farmer. Becky
Redford
This message is from: "Harold D. Kane" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Friends, It's been awhile since I've written, I check the list all the time. My husband had a mild stroke on Monday, 48 years old. He'll be fine in time, better every day. He is an engineer by trade. We were v ery lucky that we caught high blood pressure with only this, a warning sign. Regarding Redford, earlier I wrote asking about driving him as a 2 1/2 yr old and riding him also. We had worked with a wonderful trainer mostly QT horse people. They said go ahead walk, trot and canter now. I decided to move Redford closer to home for the winter, outdoor board with 1 other nice paint mare. Before we moved him I took a lesson working him in a canter for the 1st time under saddle. The trainers talented daughter got on him and eventually got him to canter... what a sight. Stride, buck...stride, buckstride, buck etc. etc.oh my! After only several minutes, I got on. He really bucked hard, never did get him to canter. My trainer said. "maybe those folks are right, wouldn't hurt him to take the winter to mature mentally before we try that again." I guess I don't want to baby him but why rush the whole thing? I intend to walk, trott short times and ground drive alot. Thanks for your ongoing help. I learn so much here. I do believe that fjords are different than most breeds, I have so much to learn. sheri
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear ruthie, my farrier told me that removing shoes in the winter gives the foot a bit of a break. it allows the hoof wall to expand and flatten out the bottom of the sole so the frog can make better contact with the ground and increases foot circulation with each step. makes sense and sounds like a good story. he's a very good farrier, keeps up to date and is always going to farrier seminars. be interested in hearing from a farrier on this one. denise in clearing showers and blue sky on the horizon, northern california.
Re: Meadowbrook Carts
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, We are fairly new to driving, but we have a meadow brook cart that we just love. The other carts we've had have been easy entry and also some kind of homemade one that definitely wasn't easy entry. But our meadow brook has a spring box. The shafts attach to a spring that connects to the back of the seat. The seat itself sits on the springs that are just above the wheels. The front of the seat box connects to the bar that goes between the two shafts. It is like riding on a cloud. Our pony loves it too, because the shafts don't bounce on her either. It is the neatest cart we've ever ridden in. It's too bad, Lisa, that you got such an uncomfortable one. Has anyone else had that kind of experience with a Meadow Brook? Tami
Re: Horse Sleazy's
This message is from: "Karen McCarthy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> From: "Patti" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Wondering if anyone out there has ever made or thought about making >a Sleazy for a Fjord PUUULLLEEZE!!! do your self a favor and save the agony of picking the shredded bits of stretchy polyester by either putting in a floor drain for the pee, ( I'll tell you if you want to know how) or turning this fellow out in a paddock w/ more room. Sorry ya'll, but how would you like being locked in a stall wearing wall to wall tight stretchy nylon all over YOUR bod??? Does not persent a very pleasant scenario __ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
Re: Drains
This message is from: "Rebecca Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I really don't know, Denise. We had a gravel base laid under the concrete and the drains filled with fairly large rocks, but the muddy muck that sluices off the floors when we wash them is very fine and packs in like mud and we have to end the process by digging out and washing the large rocks also. I thought I might use one of those open matted floor systems--the rubber mats with the holes throughout that keep the floor from washing out, but drain well, instead of concrete. Also the solid concrete causes smells to build up when urine is trapped between the mats and the floor. It is difficult to get enough slope to cause good draining without also getting a very uncomfortable slope to the floor. Another problem is that it is a back breaker to try to move those heavy rubber mats. We talk them outside and clean them, disinfect the floors and walls of the staff for foaling, then replace them. Re other comments: We have screened and stormed windows in the stalls and like the barred stalls as the stallion could not mess with other horses going up and down the aisles and we had the whole aisle to work in. The stalls have recessed spots that would hold a heat lamp--never needed. Vets love our barn because of the cement floor, the hot water handy and the great lighting. Becky
Offical military art on the web
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Artistic Documentation of Norway NATO EXERCISES 1984 These paintings & drawings are part of THE MARINE CORPS ART COLLECTION ~ by Colonel D.J. Neary, USMCR ~ http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway.htm With a Fjording in this drawing!: http://www.heritagestudio.com/norway10.htm
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/20/2000 8:48:31 AM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << You QH people have it easy >> I loved your Dun names they were teriffic! But since I live in Utah where 90% of the horses are QH, and my kids are in 4-H where all the show rules and Judges favor QHs and we are always definding our choice of riding Arabians and now Fjords, I just can't sit here and be called a QH person. Sorry, no offence, we do have one QH, and her baby, because my 6' 1' son was getting penalized for being too big for the 14'3' Arabian he was riding in 4-H. And we do like her a lot! But our focus is on Arabians,Fjords, and ponies. Since Arabians don't come in Buckskin or dun and I have a fetish for those colors, of course our token QH is buckskin. This all means that we are having a blast with a breed, the Fjords, that are homozygous for the dun gene. So, sorry, but we have had quite a time with some of the QH people. I just love horses and can find something to appreciate in just about any equine. I would love to have one of all the different breeds. I just don't like people who cut down other people's horses. Not that you did. Tami in Utah Where we have a herd of kids, and horses
Re: Norwegian folk art www site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >Just found this site: > >http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/ There is an ulsdun on an old plate in the BONDESTANDEN section, and more Fjords in the hunter section. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: poop
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> that is a good questionwhat do all of you do with your manure and piles? my neighbors have taken their share for their gardens and really don't want anymore. maybe it is the work involved. my pile just keeps growing. we spread it in the veggie garden area and i use it on my roses and summer flowers, but i still have too much!!! denise-piled high in calif. ouch!!!
Norwegian folk art www site
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Just found this site: http://www.norskfolke.museum.no/presentasjon/bonde-best/ Wonderful stuff. The IDEALSKIKKELSEN part has at least two Fjordinger. >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot (It's cold and windy and I've set my clock at 9:30 to see the moon eclipse tonight ... hope these clouds roll on out of here!)
Re: Horse sleazy's
This message is from: Alison Barr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hmm, Light-colored horses. I was introduced to Fjords when my pony went lame just before the 4 biggest shows of the year (kicked out at the high country int. combined driving event). I missed the driving, borrowed a Skitzo thoroughbred for the S.A. championships, and then I borrowed a Fjord (Iggy). He had one week to learn to canter, to do dressage, to learn about commercial horse trailers, ect. And, more to the point, we had to get him clean! Not that big a deal, he didn't look that dirty, so we started to wash. The mud that came off that pony! He was referred thereafter as the color changing pony. I think we can get away with a lot of dirt with these guys (It makes their coats lousy, though) Ps: If you're wondering, we made it to the Reg. Champs and got some good marks. 8 on enter in working trot, 8 on halt, 0 on canter! The second show was canceled due to snow. I got my Fj 2 weeks later. Thoroughly impressed with Iggy.
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa, Good dun to the last drop. Sorry, Tami
winter shod
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Jean, thanks for your response to my comment, that was an interesting post on winter hoof wear. Our son uses the borium shoes and pads in the wintertime too and swears by them. I guess we might try them if we rode more in the winter but it's bobsled and sleigh time for us. =)) Ruthie
Re: Welcome Mat is here.
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Denise, Nobody could'ave Dun it better! I really enjoyed your ideas. Tami
Re: Barns
This message is from: "Denise Delgado" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> dear becky, in regards to the drains; how would you change them? maybe no drains and just a sloped cement floor to an outside source (the yard or pasture), that way there would be no clogging problem. thx, denise
Re: Self Cleaning Barn
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/20/00 9:03:00 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << S if anyone has the self cleaning barn... let me know. I have 30 plus horses, I would love to test it out on. Catherine L. >> Well, I've seen ALMOST a self cleaning barn! A few years ago we were in France, and took a tour of the Cadre Noir. They DID have a conveyor belt that took manure down the backside of the barn. Still needed human power to load the thing though. And they hot walker they had was impressive. It looked almost like a children's carousel, it was an enclosed building, you could see the horse from shoulder up, it had a roof, and it had partitions between each horse. BTW, I also saw a fjord, about a half mile from the school, going through lovely dressage paces. Actually saw a few fjords during the whole trip. Pamela
Re: Horse Sleazy's
This message is from: GAIL RUSSELL <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Someone on another list posted about a sad accident associated with a sleazy. It was the kind that goes over the face (maybe they all do). Got twisted around and rubbed on a horse's cornea. As I remember the damage was pretty severe - maybe blindness in that eye. The one time someone put a sleazy on one of my young horses overnight it got twisted around - and apparently could have been hazardess. At the time we just thought he looked pretty funny in it. At 01:56 PM 1/20/2000 EST, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Patti, > >Good idea but whoever does it better put a long opening at the top for the >mane. I'd hate to smash it down! > >Susan > > Gail Russell Forestville CA [EMAIL PROTECTED] Clicker List Web Site : http://clickryder.cjb.net
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Joni, I keep an EZ boot on hand for the time when one of my horses throws a shoe but have never used it for riding. I always thought if we went to the Black Hills to trail ride (it is very rocky terrain) that I might try them. They are awfully expensive and you can't really alternate them much between horses because they come in a bunch of different sizes -- unless, of course, your horses have the same size hooves. Susan
Re: Horse Sleazy's
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patti, Good idea but whoever does it better put a long opening at the top for the mane. I'd hate to smash it down! Susan
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: Jean Ernest <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Regarding "not shod in the winter." > >We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and considered it more >humane but can't recall the basis for the practise, just assumed the reason >was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor. Ruthie Generally the "winter shoes" here are put on with pads, either the 'Huf-grip" rim snow pad or full pads so maybe that insulates them. I just got the summer shoes removed and the winter shoes and pads put on my guys yesterday ...HOORAY!!!... My farrier thought that it was better to leave the plates on rather than remove them if he couldn't put the other shoes on, and it has worked out ok. He is VERY careful not to trim short when the weather might drop to the -40's etc. and didn't take much off their hooves yeasterday for that reason. He says that some other farriers have trimmed hooves too short for the cold conditions and horses have had problems. He wouldn't trim the girls at all yesterday for that reason even tho they were a bit long. The reason he wanted to leave the summer plates on rather than just take shoes off when it was too cold to put the others on was that the ground was so hard that taking the shoes off would have caused more problems than leaving them on. I trust my farrier and he sure knows his business shoeing here in the extremes of Alaska! After the boys got their borium shoes and pads yesterday they discovered that they had a lot more traction and 25 year old Bjarne went racing and bucking around the paddock, stopping occasionnaly to roll in the snow. Before, he had acted as if he wanted to roll, pawing and starting to get down, but then would decide against it, as his shoes must have felt slippery perhaps. but now he rolls with abandon to get the snow off his back then bounces up with a buck and races around chasing the others. We are enjoying balmy temps here, +25 degrees and we had about 18 inches of snow over the last few days. Sure glad I have a snow bloer as there would be no place to PUSH the snow! I still have to dig out the pickup and shovel snow off the deck ( Maybe try to get the snowblower on the deck to do that) then I can think about snowblowing the little arena and maybe I can actually RIDE! Hey, wouldn't THAT be a nice change..wonder if I remember how? LOL So when it is COLD here, it is WARM down there in the lower 48...And when it is Cold down there, we get the balmy weather! I like it this way..you folks can enjoy winter for a while! Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, Almost shirt sleeve weather at +25! Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Favorite idea or feature
This message is from: Lori Albrough <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Here's a really simple little idea that all our visitors comment on. We have a 32'x24' run-in shed attached to the south end of our barn. The run-in shed door opens onto the main barn aisle, and this is a favorite place for horses to put their heads in and socialize a bit. On either side of the doorway, at about head height, we attached softish dandy brushes (with countersunk screws). The horses come up and rub the itchy spots on their heads & necks on these brushes. So cute. Not self-cleaning maybe, but self-grooming. Lori A.
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "linda hickam" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Some friends of mine were expecting another dun Connemara baby from their dun mare who was bred to a dun stallion.What came was a bright bay filly they named " Un-Dun ".Linda -- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com >Subject: Dun looking for names? >Date: Thu, Jan 20, 2000, 2:12 AM > >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >In a message dated 00-01-19 13:33:35 EST, you write: > ><< We bred our QH mare to > a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun. And we're looking >for > a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it. I hope we can make it, we just > have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I >think > that it helps to get all the exposure we can. > Thanks,Tami > >> > >We had a QH Dun gelding, whos registered name was, " Show Um How Its Dun >" .he was a dun, of course. His barn name was " Dundee " Lisa >Pedersen > Always thought " Ride, Till He's Dun " would be cute also. > > > >
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: "Bushnell's" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Regarding "not shod in the winter." We've always had shoes removed in the wintertime and considered it more humane but can't recall the basis for the practise, just assumed the reason was that metal can be a cruel cold conductor. Ruthie At 11:21 AM 01/20/2000 -0500, you wrote: >This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Our one experience with ezboots as a means to protect an injured >hoof for a short time was very positive. They are expensive, and >getting a good fit is not easy, but we are considering buying sets >for one of our teams which are normally not shod during the winter. > >
Re: Favorite idea or feature
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] We just built a barn 3 years ago and toured every barn of every friend and boarding facility we could to get ideas. My favorite features we incorporated when building our barn are: Sliding screen doors that keep virtually all the pesty flies and mosquitos out of the barn. We have them at both ends where the garage doors come down and keep the screens closed during the day to keep bugs out but allow the breeze to go through. Automatic waterers -- wouldn't ever go without them! Gossip doors that allow the horses to put their heads into the aisle a bit to see who's coming. It's so cute to see all their heads pop out when I open the door to the refrigerator to get the carrots. Larger than standard windows in the stalls. A person once told me those windows are the horses' TV. (Of course, they can't see out of them right now because they're all frosted up!) Hay drops that are located above each stall instead of the aisleway to keep the mess to a minimum when we drop hay. The horses get to clean up the "mess" that way! A ceiling/wall mounted heater on a thermostat for the feed room to keep the feed that has molasses in it from clumping up and freezing (i.e. Senior Feed, etc.) I think that hits the high points. Susan in frigid MN (-27 degree wind chill today!)
Self Cleaning Barn
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Gayle, If you can come up with a self cleaning barn let me know. My father when he first came up here, everyday would come up with ideas. A conveyor belt system behind the butts; A conveyor belt in the center alley; A hole in the floor and teach them to use the potty; A machine on the back wall that would shake the shavings and then take the manure off to a pile. Can you tell the man is a Mr.. Gadget man. I would laugh and ask how to keep the item safe and he would go back to the drawing board. S if anyone has the self cleaning barn... let me know. I have 30 plus horses, I would love to test it out on. Catherine L.
Reply to Fred
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Fred, It was 354 days. She waxed up on 352. She was a different mare in the fact that she ate like a HOG up until the minute she had legs sticking out. Then she finally laid down and with a big push, spit him out. Then I gave her the bran mash and she stayed down until it was all gone. By then, Numann was out of the bag and had moved over to Kristi's head. We imprinted for an hour and then Mama got up and baby got up and he knew immediately where the Milk Bar was. Enjoy the birthing in Feb. We have an AQHA mare due Feb 1st. So it is time to do it all over again. I LOVE IT! Catherine L.
Re: winter weather
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date sent: Wed, 19 Jan 2000 22:57:41 -0500 (EST) From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:Re: winter weather To: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com Send reply to: fjordhorse@angus.mystery.com > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Speaking about weather, it was 80 degrees in California, today, with a nice > breeze. I rode in a tee-shirt. Where's that cold snap, again? > I think it's right around the corner from those brush fires that burn up thousands of acres in "the golden west". [:o)
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our one experience with ezboots as a means to protect an injured hoof for a short time was very positive. They are expensive, and getting a good fit is not easy, but we are considering buying sets for one of our teams which are normally not shod during the winter.
Re: saddles...again!!!!!!
This message is from: Mary Thurman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> --- Denise Delgado <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > This message is from: "Denise Delgado" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > thanks mary, > your post was educating for me in regards to > saddles. why do so many people > out there like (love) those aussie saddles? Good question. Admittedly, they are not cheap if you buy the 'real thing' made in Australia! I think it is because they are more secure than an english saddle, but not as 'restrictive' as a western saddle. Plus the 'style' of them is more english looking. Also, for people who are looking for a non-english saddle to fit a Fjord, they used to be about the only game in town. I've seen a couple of recent posts which say they are 'heavy' - 30 to 32 pounds. Guess these people haven't lifted an older western saddle lately! The really new western saddles - made of Cordura and other synthetics - are around 25 pounds, but my old one weighs around 40 pounds. Uff Da!! However, my horse is pretty short so it isn't all that far up to his back from the saddle rack. what > are the benefits verses > disavantages to the forward sitting placments and > also the legs? The Aussie puts your seat at about the same place as you would sit on the horse if riding bareback. It's easier to balance there, and it's easier on the horse. He can balance the rider's weight better if it is more towards his withers. If you sit right in the middle of his back, his back gets tired, and the gaits feel rougher to the rider. Also, if he makes a sudden movement, it's harder to catch your balance if you are right in the middle of his back. An Aussie has 'free swinging' stirrups, like an english saddle, so you can position your legs forward, center, or in between - keeps your legs from getting as tired, takes the strain off your lower back, makes balancing easier. You actually sit in it with your thighs under the "poley" ears, knees slightly bent, heels down, leg going slightly forward of your butt. In the older western saddles this was NOT possible. Your leg went straight down and stayed that way. Not very comfortable over a long ride. but then i/ve > heard they can be a bugger to get out of in a > hurry... I've never had any trouble 'bailing out' of one. Only did it a couple of times, though. Guess you need to be familiar enough with the saddle to remember that your leg has to come back - out from under the 'poley' - before you can jump off. Believe me, you are more apt to get your jacket or shirt caught on the horn of a western saddle when bailing out, than to get stuck in an Aussie. Of course, the idea is supposed to be that you don't "bail out" - that's why the Aussie is built like it is, so the rider can stay put no matter what the horse does. Mary = Mary Thurman Raintree Farms [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do You Yahoo!? Talk to your friends online with Yahoo! Messenger. http://im.yahoo.com
Re: Barns
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Everyone, The question about barns was an excellent one. There is nothing like the 'been there, done that', experience to draw from - before, not after, the fact! When my husband, Pat , and I relocated our ranch, lock, livestock, and barrel (feeders) 5 years ago, we purchased a commercial chicken operation and set about converting it to a horse facility. An awfully AMBITIOUS project! My barn is 250' long and built on a fill for good drainage. After spending much time on the 'drawing board', here is what we ended up with. Eighteen 12x12 rubber matted box stalls, one 'overflow' smaller stall which houses the tractor when not needed for a horse, one 10x10 storage area for misc, stuff like cart, log for skidding practice, jump standards, etc., totally enclosed feed room with sliding exterior door for easy access when unloading grain, 110 long indoor arena, enclosed, heated, tack room, hay storage for about 5 ton, and an office. Chickens aren't very tall so our rafters are at about 10 feet, pretty low for horses, but doable. If we had started from scratch, the rafters would've been at 16', but had to make do with what we had. The alley is 16' wide, a very nice feature. The native soil here is clay. Most of the time that's a pain to deal with, but does make for a nice, hard surface for the alley. It is somewhat uneven in places and we will likely have to do some levelling sooner or later, but makes for safe footing for horses as opposed to concrete or asphalt. It is fairly easy to clean with a leaf blower and looks spotless after blowing. Each stall has it's own tie ring for grooming and saddling. I really dislike cross-ties. Seems that someone is always needing to get by or horses are fussing with each other when there are cross-ties in an alley. There is also a 'groom room' in one corner of the arena with a plug in for electric clippers. Each stall has solid 8' walls between stalls and stall fronts are 1x2 wire. Each stall has a feed door with feeder just inside. Any exposed wood edges are covered with metal to discourage 'beavers". I prefer solid stall walls between stalls for a couple of reasons. HEALTH being the number one priority, I do not want horses to be able to sniff noses. If a new horse comes into the barn, it can be in quarantine, rather than risking it bringing some disease with it and passing it 'along the line' to everyone else. Another reason is that some horses like their own space and do not appreciate a neighbor constantly bugging them. The third reason for solid walls, is stallions. Any one of my stalls can house a stallion without problems. I prefer the wire fronts as opposed to the bar type because sometimes the bars are just far enough apart to get tiny foal feet and legs through if they jump up, which they will often do, if mom is taken out for a ride or for weaning. Each of our stalls has a 2x2 window, again covered by wire. We installed those upon the advice of a veterinarian. He told us to be sure that our barn had good ventillation, otherwise we could just plan on having him visit 3-4 times a year to treat upper respitory problems. The barn is situated so that the 'weather' does not come in the windows. Our winters are pretty mild here in Oregon, but we do get a ton of rain. The horses basically have to live inside most of the winter. Having the open windows gives the horses less of a caged feeling and I will often see them watching outside or simply sniffing the breezes. Each stall has a 4', double bulb, flourescent light installed above the rafters, out of harm's way. The bulbs each have plastic covers for safety and fire protection. I prefer flourescent lighting as there are no shadows. The down side to them is that they can get a bit 'fussy' when the weather is cold, but overall prefer that type of lighting. We installed several sliding doors along the sides and ends for emergency exits - God forbid that we should ever have a fire! Sure wouldn't want to have critters trapped at the far end of this barn with no way out!! The entire interior of the barn is painted white to make it feel and look bigger, open and airy. Dark barns are a drudge for people and horses alike. The office is my favorite place. Pat outdid himself there. It is 12x16, carpeted and heated. It contains my desk, couch, 4 windows, one to the alley, 2 to the outside, and one to the adjacent foaling stall, wire covered, of course. There is a wardrobe closet (Pat purchased for $7 at an auction and refinished it for my office), an entertainment center (Pat purchased an old colsole color TV for $5 at an auction, gutted and remodeled it) which contains a TV, VCR, microwave, coffee pot etc. And, of course there is the refrigerator, sometimes well stocked for people, but usually has horse drugs in it! The foaling stall is next to my office. It is 12x12 with a removabe w
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: sini seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> How about Dunderella or Dad's Dun It Great. What is the sire called? Glad? Then it could be Glad's Dun It Great. Or Right or Fine etc. Good luck & best regards Sini. http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > In a message dated 00-01-19 13:33:35 EST, you write: > > << We bred our QH mare to > a Hollywood Dun It son whose name is I'm glad I'm dun. And we're looking > for > a cute name for the foal with a "Dun" in it. I hope we can make it, we just > have one Fjord so far, and we still have a lot of learning to do, and I > think > that it helps to get all the exposure we can. > Thanks,Tami > >> > > We had a QH Dun gelding, whos registered name was, " Show Um How Its Dun > " .he was a dun, of course. His barn name was " Dundee " Lisa > Pedersen >Always thought " Ride, Till He's Dun " would be cute also.
Re: Dun looking for names?
This message is from: "Meredith Sessoms" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> You QH people have it easy ... I put the word 'done' into a search engine at a CD sales site and came up with all kinds of names, same could be dun at Amazon.com or IMDB. Hope this helps: Soon Be Dun Hank Dun It Brother Dun It Daddy's Dun Can Be Dun What Love Has Dun Love Has Dun Said 'n' Dun Dun For Love How It's Dun Will Be Dun All Been Dun Deeds Dun The Deed Is Dun Boy Dun Good Run Til Your Dun Dun 'n' Dusted Historical and geographical names: Dunedin Dunkirk St. Dunstan Dunsterforce >>><<< Meredith Sessoms >>><<< Soddy-Daisy. Tennessee. USA (where it is chilly, windy and spittin' snow!) >>><<< Dorina & NFR Aagot
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/19/00 6:43:41 PM Mountain Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << Anyone out there tried E-Z Boots on thier Fjord? I haven't had shoes on my 91/2 yr. old gelding for about 4yrs. The only time I feel he would need protection is when we trailer to a park that has rocky areas and that's not very often, so I thought perhaps E-Z Boots would be the way to go. They're also supposed to be good for winter riding. Any comments? Joni in Wisconsin where we are enjoying one of the finest mild winters that I can remember! >> I use E-Z Boots on my Fjords and they work well. Katrina is shod and padded most of the year but I like to give her feet a break in the winter so we switch to E-Z Boots. We drive on dirt road, some are covered in large gravel. I have been ponying my 20 month old filly, Heather, behind the cart since she was a year old, and as she is too young to be shod I also use E-Z Boots on her. The only problem I have had is when we move from gravel to pavement, especially where the gravel is on the pavement, we get a bit of sliding. My girl friend only uses E-Z Boots on her Fjord, for riding and driving, and has had no problem. We both use a velcro strap hooked into the back of the boot and around the ankle so we don't loose a boot in mud, water or because a horse has stepped on the back of a boot and pulled it off. E-Z Boots are not cheap but they are less expensive than keeping shoes on all the time and protect my Fjords feet well. Hope this helps. Sue
a Lil' Bit of Cowgirl
This message is from: "Handwovens by Jill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For the cowgirl in ya -- For sale: cute little pin and earring set. $12.00. E-mail me privately. Photo available. Thanks. Jill in Oregon Handwovens by Jill "What you have in mind I'll put into design!" Website Address: http://www.spiritone.com/~jillhack
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2000 #19
This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 1/19/00 10:33:07 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: << This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gayle, We haven't decided yet if we can make it up that far, but we would really like to, you're on the list we got from Catherine, we'll call and make an appointment if we can. We would love to see what you are doing at the Field of Dreams. Thankyou very much for your friendliness, it is wonderful. Thanks, Tami Pugh >> Tami, I'm not certain where your equine interests lie, driving or riding. I drive some, but in my barn, the focus is on riding. My students ride their Fjords English, bareback, and Western. My favorite is Western. I am the one who does the Reining and Cutting with my Fjords. Last week end we had visitors from out of town and a couple of the gals came to demonstrate their Fjords. One rode English, one bareback, and our old (24) King Herald mare, Molde, carried a young girl. I stood back by myself for a few moments and just 'drank' in the panorama with pride. It was such a cool sight. Anyway, if riding is what you are interested in, think you would enjoy the spectacle. Do let me know if time will permit you to visit my barn and I will see if the gals can take the time to do it again. Gayle Ware Field of Dreams Eugene, OR
RE: Thanks SS
This message is from: "Turcotte, Dianne" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Tillie, I'm glad to know that you like the things that I got you. It was fun finding the fiord things, but my daughter and I wanted to keep them for ourselves! I am just recovering from eye surgery, so I won't write too much. I just had the LASIK procedure done to correct my vision which was terrible. This surgery is like a miracle, I can see very well, but right now my eyes get tired quickly and the winter dryness is irritating. Anyhow, it was fun doing the Secret Santa, I hope Cynthia will do it next year too. :)Dianne
Re: Mike/Steve
This message is from: "Mike May, Registrar NFHR" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> At 08:19 PM 1/19/00 -0500, you wrote: This message is from: " Dave McWethy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Mike, can you give me pedigree information on LASSE, a gelding who is four and came from Wisconsin? He belongs to Ellen Davidson in VA. Sure I can. Here it is: LASSE CFC-I-756-SG Foaled May 14, 1995 Bred by CLINT F. CONVERSE, MONTLEY, MN STEINFINN N-1858 2.pr ORRJO N-1946 C-369 Sl. LENDA N-13690 2.pr ANVIL'S STEINFINN C-462 AA-A-131-S PRINCE C-39 QUEEN C-51 FAM-P-1458-M FREYA C-38 PRINCE C-39 ANDRE 221-B KAREN C-35 INGIBJORG 2165-B GORM 129-A HEIDIS 2096-B BRYNHILD 2046-A AFS === Norwegian Fjord Horse Registry Mike May, Registrar Voice 716-872-4114 FAX 716-787-0497 http://www.nfhr.com mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: E-Z BOOTS
This message is from: "Rebecca Mayer" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> I did try e-z boots and they are great for an emergency, but they were always a struggle to get on and could be thrown off with enough action. Becky
Auction in Prinville OR
This message is from: "Catherine Lassesen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> OOOPS! I forgot to mention where the auction would be... Prineville, OR. North Eastern Oregon... Where is the brain??? Baby Numann is wonderful. Boy, I see Trinity's Samstein in him all the time. Numann is walking very politely under halter to the arena with his mama... Then he cuts loose and spins and plays and bucks and jumps over the jumps (18 inches max) that are in the arena. He is fun to watch. Mama just looks for food, takes a roll and then looks bored. Numann find more things to get his attention... Oh foals are so fun. Anyone wanting an Equine midwife... send your mare to meI love the foals! Catherine L
Re: Trees & Pictures / Joni
This message is from: sini seppala <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Hi Joni The page is in both Finnish and English. Perhaps there was something wrong with the address - here it is once again. Hope you'll get through All the best to all, Sini in Finland. home page at http://www.saunalahti.fi/~partoy/Juhola6.html [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sini: I tried to view your web-site, but I did not know where to go, as > it is all in "Finish"??? Could you let me know how to find the pictures? > Thanks, Joni @ [EMAIL PROTECTED]