Re: a wonderful drive! and some thoughts about, long
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, August 15, 2005, at 07:45 AM, Pasqual, Patricia A wrote: Tish and Elph in Minneapolis, happy, happy! Where is the weather like this year round? (or even 3 months of the year!!!) Sunny, 70 - 75 degrees, perfection! Hi Tish - It is in southern California. But forget driving trails or rural living here. Everyone wants this weather and the roads are clogged, the air is dirty, but there is a lot of shopping! Tamara who is happily leaving Southern Cal on Wednesday for Oregon and less than perfect weather
OT Lethal white disease in foals
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I adopted a paint PMU mare that was bred to a stallion that we later found out carried the lethal white gene. Fortunately my mare turned out to not be in foal, but anyone breeding paints should know that the lethal white is NOT just confined to the overos... From a UC Davis article that can be found at http://www.vetmed.ucdavis.edu/ceh/HR20-3lethal.html: The lethal white disease is most often associated with the overo spotting pattern in horses, but it can occur in tobianos and toveros as well. Horses with this disease are all white and die shortly after birth due to intestinal abnormalities (similar to Hirschsprung Disease in humans). Surgical intervention has not proved successful; therefore, this condition is lethal in all cases. The whole article is quite good. Tamara As of next week Applegate OR On Friday, August 12, 2005, at 11:53 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean Ernest wrote: The Lethal white occurs in paints,,I forget which,Overo, I think. breeding two with a lot of white may produce an lethal whit..Many don't even survive to be born. Jean, You are right about it being Overo that produces the lethal white. Howerver, it can happen to any that carry the overo gene. A friend had a crop out mare (QH who had too much for the QH registry at that time) woh had only one white spot on her belly. She had a lethal white when bred to an overo stallion. When I bred my breeding stock mare to an overo stallion I kept my fingers crossed! I lucked out! Barb Lynch
Re: Ruthie, thank you for the compliment
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Gayle - I am so impressed with your ethics, and obvious intelligence. We will soon be living within a couple of hours from you and I hope we can come visit your ranch. If I ever need to buy another Fjord you will definitely be on my top list of breeders. Tamara Fallbrook CA next week to be Applegate, OR On Wednesday, August 10, 2005, at 07:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: He did. At one time, he had a 3 year old full brother that he had bred to a couple of mares. ARGH! I purchased that one from him and gelded him immediately.
over-selection apples and eval oranges
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Somebody stop me. Pleeaassse. Nope isn't happening. I'm jumping into the fray which means no matter what I say you (Ruthie) will have an extremely well thought out, sharp tongued response intended to make me look stupid. I say save your breath- I do a fine job on my own. Besides I am now donning my cyber anti-flaming armor of the most highly developed technology. (bugle please) Charge Here is the way I see it - you are comparing over-selection apples to the evaluation oranges. I have not heard anyone say that the purpose of evaluating those stallions is to limit the gene pool. Instead I am hearing them say it is to improve a breeders' tools for selection. Now, now I already hear you saying that people will only pick the one that scores the highest thereby limiting the gene pool. If that is true than what you have proven is that the breeders are stupid. Therefore I submit that in addition to evaluating stallions we also give IQ tests to breeders. That way if you aren't smart enough to use ALL of the information at hand you can just become a backyard horse enthusiast such as myself. To tell you the truth though from what I am reading on the list I believe the breeders are smart enough to understand that they need to look for a stallion that improves the qualities their mare is lacking. Another point I would like to make is that there is an inherent difference in breeding dogs and horses. Especially when it comes to show dogs. Let me explain. The gene pool for certain breeds of show dogs became decreased because the breeders are going for one attribute only - looks. In looking at other true working breeds such as hunting dogs I think you will find a larger, healthier gene pool. With Fjords there are many different breeders after many different characteristics. That alone will mean that the breeder looking for a dressage prospect will pick a different stallion than the breeder looking for a jumping pony than the breeder looking for a farm draft horse and on and on. This is what I think would be of the most benefit to the should we evaluate stallions? discussion: all of you breeders that are on the list please email in and say what qualities you use when picking your stallions for breeding and if evaluation scores would be useful and how much they would be a deciding factor. IQ tests may follow. g Tamara Fallbrook CA soon to be Applegate OR where I will no doubt remember to keep my mouth shut On Sunday, August 7, 2005, at 01:56 PM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] This past spring Phillip Odden asked me to gather together those facts I could find in support of the hypothesis that the over-selection of breeding candidates eventually leads to a lessening of the breed population gene pool and results in inbreeding, which leads to all manner of degeneration. This I am doing, because I care very deeply about Fjords and their secure future as a breed, just as you and many others do too. I may not be able to do as much as you have done, but I can do what I can and this issue of over-selection takes my interest. I probably got interested in it because I know that it is over-selection that has ruined and destroyed many dog breeds. We can learn from their plight.. the dog, having a shorter gestation and life period, has come full circle much faster in their breeding consequences. We can learn from their mistakes. This investigation should not detract from all the time and work in the past that has been devoted to conformationally evaluating Fjords, in a time when we weren't aware of protecting our entire gene pool, but now we should know better. Time and science marches on, with or without us. What was relevant 20 or 30 years ago in breeding strategies is no longer. I have offered professional resources and contacts to anyone that is interested in determining whether or not the narrowing of breeding stallions, as Mark suggested, ultimately leads to over-selection, inbreeding, and a loss of genetic diversity. Why not respond by offering conflicting data from a professional geneticist? ..you can't find a professional that would support over-selection, that's why! Name calling and general hysteria is not that impressive, neither is sticking your head in the sand when new information is available. You have well illustrated the uniformed fervor and inflexibility of those who support the destructive practice of over-selection. Twenty or thirty years from now, you will be remembered as having been dogmatic and shortsighted. I only hope that someone within the breed wakes up, speaks up, and gets a professional second opinion on this issue. It may interest you to know that many Universities publish on the Internet, and they're telling us to avoid over-selection. Ruthie, nw mt US
Re: Myler bits
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow. If a comfortable bit does that just think how much damage an uncomfortable bit does... Tamara Fallbrook Ca soon to be Applegate OR On Tuesday, August 2, 2005, at 07:28 AM, Ellen Davidson wrote: He used my arm to show how comfortable the bits were.At the end of the demo,my arm was black and blue with pinched torn skin.I did not use a Myler on my fjord after that
Re: New to List
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Welcome and congrats on your new mare. She sounds like a love. Tamara In Fallbrook CA soon to be Applegate OR happily owned by Harrison Fjord who considers himself a bit of a Don Juan (no make that Dun Juan) and he says to give your new girl a big smooch from him. On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 06:58 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just bought a wonderful Fjord mare, Dustenai from Gayle Ware of, Field of Dreams Fjords.
Re: Lease agreement
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean - I'm thinking that the horse may be transported given the activities he will be used for. I still think the horse insurance might not be a bad idea unless the owner of the horse will be doing all of the transporting. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Saturday, July 30, 2005, at 03:40 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] In this case the horse will stay where he is..at the owner's place, and the owner is responsible for care and feeding. the child/parent will only lease him to use for riding, lessons, and in 4H. The owner was at one time a 4H leader, who are covered by some liability insurance through 4H. I could suggest she join the AHSA ..now called US Equestrian, BTW. I did an informal lease agreement with a horse person who was a known commodity (so did not feel I had to spell out care requirements). It was a lease that allowed the horse to be bred. We took two precautions that I am now glad of. We insured the horse. It cost the lessor $150 for insurance covering the horse for $5000 for a year. I also havean American Horse Show Association membership that includes a liability policy.
Re: Caution feeding garlic to horses
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I read a similar article and still feed my horses garlic. I think it is important to realize that 4.4 oz is a lot of garlic. The article I read said the horses were fed 1 cup of garlic a day. Over doing just about anything is bad for a body. I once saw a 23 year old horse whose owner was adamant about the garlic. This horse had the most beautiful coat and the energy of a horse half her age. May have just been genetics, but the garlic sure as heck wasn't hurting the horse. Tamara Continuing with the garlic in Fallbrook CA On Thursday, July 28, 2005, at 04:27 AM, Lois Berenyi wrote: This message is from: Lois Berenyi [EMAIL PROTECTED] For those interested or already feeding garlic to horses for fly control you may want to read the article in Horse Journal, July issue, reporting on a study that links garlic to anemia. Horses that were fed 4.4 oz. freeze-dried garlic (1100 lb. horse) started gradually over a 41 day period and fed for 71 days developed anemia. After stopping the garlic the anemia resolved over a 5 week period but damaged red blood cells were still detectable. Intakes of over 3.5 oz. twice a day for 10 weeks was sufficient to damage the red cells. The study mentions that the safety of smaller amounts over longer time periods remains unknown but this study found horses to be even more sensitive to garlic effects than dogs. The article recommended that if you feed garlic to your horse periodic checks for anemia are advisable. Lois Berenyi where it's too darn hot for flies (NC)
Re: Wallpaper images to share with you...
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I loved the pics. Thanks for sharing. Tamara Happily owned by Harrison Fjord in Fallbrook CA but soon relocating to Rogue River Oregon where I will have to invest in one of those grazing muzzles. Wahoo! www.algedifarm.com On Tuesday, May 24, 2005, at 05:55 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] The images are both located here: http://classicbells.com/aboutUs/aboutUs.htm
Re: bonding with owner
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just had to say that we are experiencing this exact same thing with Harrison. We have had him for 16 months and in the last couple of months he has become very affectionate and attention seeking. What a love! Tamara in Fallbrook CA where it rained like crazy yesterday and the sun shone today. 0 On Friday, April 29, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Linda Lottie wrote: In my experience, I often say, it takes a full year...going through all the seasons and many experiences.
Re: Spring Frodo pictures
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for sharing Paula. He looks very kissable. :^) Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, April 3, 2005, at 06:08 PM, Paula Chmura wrote: This message is from: Paula Chmura [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was a beautiful day today after all of our rain so I was able to get some spring photos of the Frodo pony. You can see them at http://www.pbase.com/paula_chmura/frodo_april_2005 I think it's always hard to take pictures of your own horse but I tried. He is such a sweet heart I think his essense just comes through. Just thought I'd share. Paula and Frodo the Fjord
Re: Fjord Herald
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Oops. Did I actually write that? WHAT was I thinking? Thank you for putting me in my place back in the caboose. Heading back to the peace quiet of the caboose where I don't become nauseous from all the noise in the front, Tamara Happily naive in Fallbrook CA On Thursday, March 24, 2005, at 06:20 AM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] For myself I have no interest in the minutes. I cannot think of one other group I belong to (admittedly none are horse groups) that print board minutes in the member magazine. I am wondering if it wouldn't be a better use of funds to just have the minutes readily available to be mailed out to those who request them. Tamara WHETHER anyone else does it or not is irrelevant, it is a specified NFHR bylaw requirement that cannot be circumvented, save for an amendment to that effect. Any incorporated organization is required by the state to publish their order of business and the federal government supports said disclosure. PREFERABLY, we should regard our right to view the direction in which our registry is headed as a solemn trust worth guarding, for the preservation and the promotion of the Fjord breed. IN COMPARING the membership to a train, some like yourself might be content to ride along in the caboose, not seeing where you're going, not interested in the engine, the engineer, the condition of the track, or the destination, ...but others experience motion sickness when they have no visual contact. In any event... it is our right. The oversight has been acknowledged, we graciously understand, ...let's move on. And while someone has commented that the very dark colored Herald cover is going to stand out in their collection of buff-colored magazines -like a horse terd in a punchbowl, it is a lovely magazine that has been very well done and the editor is to be congratulated on her first issue. nuff said, Ruthie nw mt US
Re: Fjord Herald
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Now that I have had a chance to read through the Fjord Herald I have to agree with Taffy. I very much enjoyed the magazine. From the quality of the paper and cover, I am guessing, printing it is no small cost. I have noticed that a couple of people on the list have made mention the the board meeting minutes are not included in the magazine. For myself I have no interest in the minutes. I cannot think of one other group I belong to (admittedly none are horse groups) that print board minutes in the member magazine. I am wondering if it wouldn't be a better use of funds to just have the minutes readily available to be mailed out to those who request them. This is how it is handled in the various groups to which I belong. Just a thought and heaven knows I'm not looking for a fight over this. :^) Tamara Fallbrook CA where it has been the rainiest winter in the past 120 years. On Wednesday, March 23, 2005, at 04:59 PM, The Mercers wrote: This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just received my Fjord Herald today and it was well worth the wait! Donna, you did an outstanding job - in spite of being flooded out and all of Murphy's Law happenings. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA
Re: Did Anybody Get Their Fjord Herald Yet?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] It was in yesterday's mail. Great cover! Tamara Fallbrook CA On Friday, March 18, 2005, at 09:59 PM, Carol J. Makosky wrote: This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I just checked the archives and Mike sent an email saying they were mailed out on the 9th. I'm checking the mail daily for it and still nothing. Just wondering if it's just taking its time, or if somehow I got skipped. Pamela Northern Holiday Horses Welcome Polaris No Herald at this address yet. -- Built Fjord Tough Carol M. On Golden Pond N. Wisconsin
Re: a new life for Brigid
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brigid - This all sounds very exciting. Congratulations!! Best wishes, Tamara and Harrison Fjord in Fallbrook CA On Tuesday, March 15, 2005, at 08:31 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi All- My life has taken a very positive turn. After several years working my butt off as a traveling instructor and hoof trimmer, I finally have a ranch to call home.
Re: fjord trot
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Anvil's Harrison Fjord and his 12 year old rider would like you to know that he has a very nice trot. As the mom who doesn't ride, but does watch, I can tell you that my daughter appears to be having a very smooth ride. I bet your Fjord will be just fine. Tamara Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com On Monday, March 14, 2005, at 09:04 AM, Cherie Mascis wrote: This message is from: Cherie Mascis [EMAIL PROTECTED] I got my first Fjord in December (a then 6 month old filly) and as I'll be almost 50 by the time I ride her, I don't need a bone jarring trot! Just trotting her in hand gives me the impression of a long, ground covering trot. It doesn't look like it'll be that bad!
Re: Stallion presence as highheadedness?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] A horse can be high headed and not have presence, but horses (or other animals for that matter too) that have presence tend to hold their heads up with pride. Tamara On Wednesday, March 2, 2005, at 07:09 AM, starfirefarm wrote: It is most important that the horse gives an overall balanced, harmonious, impression and a horse that was too high headed would not be rewarded.
Re: Stallion presence
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, very well said. Charisma, pride, self-confidence whatever you want to call it. It comes from within and cannot be taught. When you see it you know it. Tamara On Tuesday, March 1, 2005, at 08:38 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I think presence is a major asset in a show horse and I don't think it has anything to do with aggression or bad manners. I also don't think it's limited to stallions. I've seen mares with it and I own a gelding that's got it to burn. I think pride might be an acceptable synonym for this quality...the ability to walk into an arena and own it. No squealing. No kicking. No throwing yourself around because you don't have to. Ears up. An alive and confident look...so that when someone runs their eyes down the line of entries, there is no way they can pass you without, at the very least, pausing. And I don't think it can be taught. Manners, situational behaviors, skills...yes. Presence - no. As one of my first teachers told me long ago, You either got or you ain't. So, lucky indeed are those of us with horses possessing all the wonderful Fjord qualities we've come to love and presence to boot. Kay Van Natta Yellow Pony Farm SE MI...with another 6 inches plus drifting.
Re: Stallion presence
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I totally agree with you, Peg. Presence is a hard thing to describe in an animal, but once you see it the concept becomes crystal clear. It is true of any mammal I think, and you will hear the term used in describing show animals whether they be llamas, goats, or Fjords! Charisma is a good word for it. It is an element from within that makes that animal stand out from the rest and makes the rest of us take notice. Tamara On Monday, February 28, 2005, at 11:08 PM, Douglas Knutsen wrote: This message is from: Douglas Knutsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all - I want to respond to your last post, Gail R. My understanding of Presence, in stallion, gelding, or mare, is that the main ingredient is Charisma, not aggressiveness. Pride in Self. Bye for now, Peg Peg Knutsen www.elltel.net/kffjord/
Re: Sonny
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, February 27, 2005, at 06:54 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** Tamara, I'm glad you've discovered the Fjord secret ;-). I wish more people understood this; if they did, we'd hear less about how stubborn and difficult Fjords (allegedly) are. So true, Brigid. I had an acquaintance call me and wanted to feed lease Harrison in exchange for using him in her riding program. She had seen how good he is with my kids. First of all there is no way in the world I would ever let Harrison go anywhere. We would miss him too much! Secondly I tried to explain to her that she wouldn't have the same horse for her students. She just wouldn't believe me. She kept telling me he just needs to be worked consistently. Jeesh! I finally just had to go with a firm no. When I told my husband her request his response was is she crazy? :^) Tamara Fallbrook
Re: Sonny
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, February 26, 2005, at 07:41 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you develop the close relationship they need, they will carry you through Hell, but if you don't, they won't do anything for you. That is certainly what we have found with Harrison. He is a wonderful horse with my daughter son because he is bonded with them. Occasionally we have had others want to ride him and he can be a bit of a pistol for them. Once you have that figured out it can be quite flattering! Tamara Fallbrook CA
Re: Horse naming
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] LOL. Too funny. Thanks for a laugh on this rainy, muddy, miserable day. Tamara happily owned by Harrison Fjord (barn name Hank and yes we sometimes add the Tank) in El Nino soaked southern California where the horses' pen is a mucky mess and Hank is probably wishing he was owned by anyone that didn't live where dry lots that become such messy lots are the norm... www.algedifarm.com On Tuesday, February 22, 2005, at 12:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When he's a massive and magnificent stallion prospect advertising for his first set of wives, you may realize that Pookie probably wasn't the best way to go.
Re: close dates
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I only just recently joined the group putting this evaluation on, so I'm not sure what the process was for selecting those dates. But a good point is made. This is a first for this group, and even though I have heavily encouraged them to get on this list I don't think most of the organizers are using computers much. I will bring these concerns to them though and perhaps next year they can take the Libby dates into consideration while planning the one down here. Tamara On Friday, February 11, 2005, at 07:48 PM, The Mercers wrote: This message is from: The Mercers [EMAIL PROTECTED] I agree with Lisa! Can't these things be scheduled so they aren't so close together? It makes it very difficult. Taffy Mercer Kennewick, WA The dates are September 30 and October 1, 2005 Following the evaluation on October 2 will be an open horse show - have your horse evaluated and then show it too. Waa ! The dates are seeing us just back from Libby, a must show for us.why are the Fjord shows ( and usually evaluations always so close together ? Lisa
Evaluation Sept 2005
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, This is probably early to announce this, but since we have been talking about evaluations I thought perhaps it would be good to let you know of the one we are planning this fall. Gives you time to plan your vacations too! The dates are September 30 and October 1, 2005 Following the evaluation on October 2 will be an open horse show - have your horse evaluated and then show it too. The place is Fallbrook California - north San Diego county. The weather should be beautiful. The contact person is Jayne Olson. Jayne is best reached via phone: 760 731 3268 That is all I know - if you have questions contact Jayne. Tamara Fallbrook CA
ebay Fjord horse item
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] My daughter found these cute Fjord horse key chains on ebay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/ eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=7126518463ssPageName=ADME:B:EF:US:1 Tamara Happily owned by Harrison Fjord in Fallbrook CA
Re: Our lives with horses
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] That was nice Jean. Thanks for sharing. Tamara owned by Harrison Fjord Fallbrook CA On Sunday, February 6, 2005, at 05:56 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Our lives with horses are rich with feeling. You know this if you've ever... .. choked back tears watching a new foal wobble to his feet for the First time ...or watching your good horse wobble to his feet after surgery... ... or seen the ends of the reins float straight out as a reining horse spins beneath them . . or chuckled to yourself as you watched a tiny tot on a patient pony trot through a barrel pattern at a saddle club payday ... or felt the building tremble as an eight-up hitch of feather-legged giants towed a hand-carved beer wagon into the arena ... or had your heart stop when you saw your horse lying motionless in the pasture on a sunny day and waited breathlessly for an ear to flick ... or cheered at the screen when The Man From Snowy River slid Dunnie down the mountainside, .. or when Seabiscuit made his final surge to beat War Admiral ... or cruised along the highway and seen a horse in a pasture and wondered what he's like to ride or pictured him as a prospect ... or sucked in your breath as a horse and rider approached a six-foot wall ... or sworn a solemn oath to your horse that together you would triumph ... or flipped through the TV channels and stopped when you saw a horse even when it was a commercial ... or laughed aloud when you rubbed your horse's face and he rubbed back ... or gotten chills hearing Dave Johnson's and DOWN THE STRETCH THEY COME! (or Run for the Roses circa 1980 ish?) ... or stood in awe at your horse in morning play as he sprinted around the pasture then stopped head erect and snorted defiance at the rest of the world ... or been thankful to see wild horses grazing casually at the foot of a hill ... or felt calmed by the sleekness of a silky haircoat beneath your hand ... or felt your jaw drop as watched a Lipazzan perform a capriole ... or if you've ever seen someone in the grocery store wearing a certain kind of hat or boots or buckle or have a certain cut and length to their jeans and felt some remote kind of connection ... or felt warmed by a soft nicker greeting as you entered the barn ... or slid your hand under your horse's blanket to straighten it out, only to pause in the glowing feeling that you get when you touch the warmth of his coat. ... or riding on a trail with your horse, thinking how that trail over there looks nice and almost without asking, your horse has sensed your slightest movement in the saddle and hes now taking you there. ... or pulled up to your barn where you board and only your horse greets you with a welcoming hello from the sound of your car or your voice. ... if you've ever been moved by any of these feelings, I hope you enjoyed the time you spent reading this.
Re: almost done
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] And what a beautiful photo that is! I can't wait to see the rest of the site. I hope you will announce when it is finished. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, February 6, 2005, at 07:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The main page does picture a pair of ours doing a 3 day combined driving event, a mother and son, Juli and PF Hansal on the 3rd day in 102 temps.
Re: Search and Rescue Update
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa - Sounds grand. I was hoping to see Ayla on your website, but I am not getting anything to come up. Are you still under construction? Tamara Fallbrook Ca On Saturday, February 5, 2005, at 05:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last week the training for S+R was a no brainer. We had a week indoors where Jeff and I brought a pair of Fjords over, along with Ayla for spooky training with a 4 wheel carriage. In the past, in parades, some of the hors
Re: Re Laurie and Oz
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 08:43 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To me horses are wonderful animals and they have been abused by many, so just giving them a wonderful home with loving care is enough if that is what you like. I so agree with that, Onna. I just love my two horses so much and see them as large pets. Although my 12 year old daughter does ride, and I will take some lessons some day, but even if it ends up no one is riding them I will keep them. I always find it jarring when someone suggests to me that my PMU mare must be broke to ride for her to have worth. I suppose that it is true should something happen to me and she would need to go to a new home, but for my purposes just grooming her and doing ground work with her makes me a happy camper. Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com
Re: Manes
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa - Harrison does not do clippers either. I got a pair of the spring loaded scissors from Office Depot (I think Fiskars makes them) and roached his mane by hand with scissors. Of course he has done this before so stood very still, but it sounds like your mare might stand still also. It really didn't take all that long at all. Tamara Fallbrook Ca ' On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 11:51 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: This message is from: Lisa Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Marsha, She would not let me use the clippers so I will try the mousse. I can get them near her head but she gets scared. I am going to work with them everyday to get her used to them. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: Manes
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lisa - I was advised to roach Harrison's mane. His was overgrown also and flopping over on the sides. It has grown back very nicely and as long as I stay on top of trimming it stays upright like it should. His mane is very, very coarse. Tamara Fallbrook www.algedifarm.com On Tuesday, February 1, 2005, at 07:21 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: Do I wait and let it stand up or do I clip it off and let it grown in?
Re: Riding into the golden years
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Great story Fred. I am feeling more and more inspired. :^) Tamara Fallbrook On Monday, January 31, 2005, at 11:41 AM, Frederick J. Pack wrote: This message is from: Frederick J. Pack [EMAIL PROTECTED] When she was physically mature enough is when I started to LEARN to ride.Yes, at age 62.
Riding into the golden years
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow! You Jeans are just impressive. Okay. Done deal. I am going to start taking lessons and plan to ride at least another 40 years! Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, January 30, 2005, at 08:36 PM, jgayle wrote: I can't resist you fifty year olds talking about being at the end of your riding days. Shame. I am eighty now and cleaning up the old saddle to get back on Fjord Gunnar. Of course I ride in my arena and he is a grumpy boy but very reliable under saddle. I am overweight, but use a mounting block. One of the reasons I am getting back on is for the exercise and my weight. I gave up daily riding about four years ago. I have never been the slender, athletic type either. So no more of this my riding days are coming to an end until at least 75!!! Jean Gayle
Re: long, maybe boring, toot toot
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa - I greatly enjoyed reading your account. And I hope you don't mind, but even had a belly laugh at your telling of singing Oh, Canada. You and your horse sound terrific. Bravo! Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, January 23, 2005, at 11:13 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! Fun stuff going on here in balmy ( 53*) UT. A couple of weeks ago, I joined the Iron Co. Sheriffs Mounted Posse Search and Rescue Team.
Re: Many Thanks! Fjord saddle pads
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Susan - Please post the website URL when it is up. I am interested in seeing the pad. tamara Fallbrook Ca www.algedifarm.com On Saturday, January 22, 2005, at 06:58 AM, Susan Felix wrote: This message is from: Susan Felix [EMAIL PROTECTED] Susan [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Colorado) Many Thanks to all of you out there who have continued to support us with your fjord non slip pad purchases. We have made over 100 all over the U.S. and Canada and are very pleased with your responses and success. Will be putting some of your testimonials on the Web Site in the next couple of weeks . Remember you can use these pads on any Horse with a saddle slippage problem or for better comfort and ride. Fleece made by hand with non slip padding for the comfort of your horses back. We recommend a decent fitting saddle to start and this will help their back for a better ride and saddle fit. The Ramsey is for English and the Favor is for Western , Please specify which one you would prefer. I will also make it for you for the color of your Horse . It looks pretty cool when riding and all you see is the saddle on the horse ! If you refer anyone to me ( and they mention your name ) as a previous customer I will make your next purchase pad as complimentary. Web Site to be out in the month. Happy Trails and Thanks again everyone! Look for our Ads in the up coming Horse Magazines , Susan Felix P.O. box 17127 Boulder Co. 80308
Re: Lack of Large Animal Vets??
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Rondi, Probably not fair of me to answer since Bonsall is horse country and you know that, but I have no problems other than I need three different vets to meet all of my animal needs. One vet for the small pet animals, another for the horses and goats, and yet another for the llamas because the horse/goat guys have one partner who doesn't do llamas. But I know if you come down Fallbrook or Valley Center way you will be covered. Tamara Fallbrook CA where it was 82 degrees today! Where has the good coffee weather gone? Oh, ya - north... :^) On Tuesday, January 18, 2005, at 06:27 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is a question for the list: Are any of you experiencing a problem in your areas with a lack of Large Animal Veterinarians? I live in Southern California, about an hour and a half from Los Angeles, north east. We are having a terrible time getting veterinarians to come and locate out here. My veterinarian retired in December and that leaves two veterinarians for about 15000 horses, plus other large animals. And one of those veterinarians, does not make housecall any more and we would have to bring the horses to his place, which is about an hours drive away. The nearest equine hospital is also about an hour's drive away, so we are all really concerned. But my vet who retired said that the problem is that of the graduating classes, there are about 80% women, and they do not want to go into large animal veterinary practices.They mostly do small animal practices. I have no idea what to do if we have an emergency here. And it is to the point that we are wondering if we need to move to another area, but are the problems the same there??? Thanks for any information you might have. Rondi Tyler. Pinon Hills, Calif.
Re: WI Weather/bloodlines
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I personally think it is a great idea. That article would be a keeper. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 12:55 PM, Dave and Patti Walter wrote: BUT it just got me thinking how it would be kind of neat to write an article but Fjord Stallions and just see how accurate it follows our breed too.
Re: shedding
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, January 17, 2005, at 09:45 AM, Carol J. Makosky wrote: This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Is anyone's Fjord shedding yet? Heidi is starting to lose her longer hair and I can't seem to convince her she still needs all she has. \ I'm not sure an answer from Southern California really counts, but Harrison Fjord is shedding out in great clumps. My daughter took the shedding blade to him yesterday and I'm sure made many birds very happy. Tamara in sunny Fallbrook CA where the temps are in the 70's and I'm not ready for summer.
Re: Clinton Anderson methods
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean - Oh, I'm a big Mark Rashid fan too! Isn't he just the best? I think what I like about him is that his is a philosophy, not a concrete plan. His first book Considering The Horse is what he is all about. Tamara In very rainy Fallbrook CA - weather gurus predicting 6 inches, and I'm feeling sorry for those critters... On Sunday, January 9, 2005, at 01:33 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to his website and was turned off by the fact that he offers twisted wire and twisted square snaffles and the jointed Tom Thumb bits for sale and advocates theuse of the twisted bits to lighten a horse up. Also the spurs...The Tom Thumb bits or any shanked bit with a jointed mouthpiece are harsh bits and act like nutcrackers. Go to Mark Rashid's website and read his article on such bits and the bit action. http://www.markrashid.com/ Go to the menu at the left and click on articles. Read The Trouble with Tom Thumb His other articles are great, too! I love his books, especially, 'LIFE LESSONS FROM A RANCH HORSE' Jean in Fairbanks, ALaska, clear and sunny after 14 snow last week..temperature is dropping...now zero, will be -20F tonight. The only time I saw C.A. on TV I was very turned off. He ran a horse in the round ring so long it seemed abusive to me. But then again I'm not a trainer...
Re: Clinton Anderson methods
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Admittedly not a horse trainer, but I like your philosophy Roberta. It is the same I use when training dogs, llamas, and yes, even children g. The only time I saw C.A. on TV I was very turned off. He ran a horse in the round ring so long it seemed abusive to me. But then again I'm not a trainer... Tamara Fallbrook Ca Where it is very, very, wet and muddy. Poor critters... On Sunday, January 9, 2005, at 08:34 AM, Warren Stockwell wrote: This message is from: Warren Stockwell [EMAIL PROTECTED] . Not every method will work with each person or horse. I call what I do Playing Horse This way I don't get frustrated as easily cuz we are just playing, and the horse enjoys it cuz we're just playing, and we get the training done So their is a bit of Parelli, Tellington-Jones, Buck Brennan, Monty Roberta, plus a bit of others. Roberta
Re: Update on Loki at the trainer's
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, January 6, 2005, at 04:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She saw the problem I was having - said there was no way I could have controled him in that spook, as he was really taking the bit and plowing through. Hi Sher - Glad to hear Loki has a trainer that understands him. That one line about him taking the bit reminded me of a problem we had with Harrison early on. He would actually fling his head so he could displace the bit and grab it between his teeth. He had figured out no bit, no control. That is when he went to a trainer. It has been so long since he did that I had completely forgotten about it. I'm sure there is hope for Loki. I will be waiting to hear you guys are back in the saddle together again. Tamara
Re: sad, sad tale
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lisa - sorry you are feeling bad, but thanks for the laugh. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Wednesday, January 5, 2005, at 05:16 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List ! For starters, I want you to know that Im totally bored and having a pity party. Im not inviting anyone else, cause Im drooling and I hate to drool around friends. I had oral surgery today and it sucks. Enough on that. So anywayIm home listening to The Big Joe Polka Show 'cause the TV was left on RFDT or whatever that farm station is on satelite ( they have good horse things sometimes) and Im too lazy and drooling to get up and find the remote. So now the dogs go off. My dogs are, by nature not barkers unless somethings happening ( except the Corgie but shes asleep under my blanket ) so with 20 Fjords still here I get my sorry drooling self up and go check. The 2 back pastures are a mess. We have had, since Christmas Eve, rain, snow, warmth, rain, more rain, snow, more melt off ect. I could have a mud bog back there. All I can see is Fjords flying everywhere.heads up ! huffing, snorty, Arabs on the hoof. They are all taking cover. From the back I see 2 beige yaks headed towards the front, but something else was there. A stick. A big fricken stick. More like a log. Must be leftovers from the sage that we brushed hogged down along the road ditch, and they managed to sneak it under the fence. Ursula ( 3 yr old filly ) and Perle ( 2 yr old, now owned by Kathy Monroe ) have the log in their mouths. Both of their mouths. Neither one will let go and they are racing through deep mud carrying the log in-between them. The other Fjords have had a meeting and decided that whateverthistotallymuddybeigelogmonsterbeastthingy is, is for sure going to GET THEM, and they must escape NOW. Now, Im flying outside with sweats, mud boots and little else before the whole herd gos through the vinyl fence. Im grabbing 2 flakes of hay on the way to hopefully calm the beasts when I slip. In the mud. In the really, really cold wet, watery mud. I didnt hurt myself, just sat down hard with my feet in the air. The hay is disolved all over me, under my hair, in my nose ( well... one side of my nose that I can feel with the novicane still on board ) Im drooling, but now its frozen drool with hay mixed in it. So, Im thinking, hm you REALLY SHOULD HAVE FRICKEN INVITED MORE FRIENDS TO THIS PARTY GIRL, when Ursula and Perle stop.drop the log.stare at me, then at each other, then at me. Im back inside now. New sweats, back under the blanket with Chelsea. Still drooling. Novicane is leaving me and Im changing my mind about refusing that Percocet RX, and ( how stupid can I be in one day ) asking for Ibuprofin. Found the remote and watching Forensic Files to see how bad it would really be to have a personal coroner. Lisa Pedersen * cold, muddy Cedar City, UTAH
OT Lisa's puppies
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lisa, Are all 17 pups PWDs? Wow that sounds like some good times are gonna be at your house. Do they use the PWD as a hunting dog? My hubby is looking for a hunting dog. We had a Standard Poodle that we adored, but he wants a pointer. Any chance the PWD points? Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, January 2, 2005, at 09:45 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: This message is from: Lisa Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valerie, So sorry to hear about your brother in-law. That must have been horrific. I see you live in CT too. I live in Bethany. Wish I was enjoying the nice weather. I am stuck inside with 17 new puppies. 6 born on the 31st and 11 born on the 1st. Moms are doing good I am tired. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/horses.html http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: So much for progress...Sher :-)
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, January 2, 2005, at 07:59 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My goals for Loki is to be a reasonably safe trail riding horse. I agree - and that's what I wanted - was to end the session on a good note. Loki had other plans. LOL! Sher - This makes me think of a line in one of the books written by Mark Rashid. He says something along the lines of You have to ride the horse you have for today. Meaning that horses moods can vary from day to day. MR goes onto explain that sometimes that just means giving up on riding for that day. I would hate to think that as a rider (which I'm not, but hoping to be one dayg) that I will have to ride a horse to the conclusion you did in an attempt to end on a good note. Please tell me I can hang it up if I'm not finding that good ending??!! I am glad to see you are soo committed to Loki and doing what he needs to become your trail partner. You sound like a good horse mama. Tamara Fallbrook CA
Re: Merry Christmas?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] And a very politically correct Christmas to you too! Still laughing, Tamara Fallbrook Ca On Monday, December 27, 2004, at 08:45 AM, Mike May wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please accept with no obligation, implied or implicit, my best wishes for an environmentally conscious, socially responsible, low stress, non-addictive, gender neutral celebration of any and/or all holidays occurring before, after, during or near the winter solstice, practiced within the most enjoyable traditions of the religious persuasion of your choice or secular practices of your choice, with respect for the religious/secular persuasions and/or traditions of others, or their choice not to practice religious or secular traditions at all. I also wish you a fiscally successful, personally fulfilling, and medically uncomplicated recognition of the onset of the generally accepted calendar year 2005, but not without due respect for the calendars of choice of other cultures whose contributions to society have helped make America great (not to imply that America is necessarily greater than any other country nor the only America in the western hemisphere), and without regard to the race, color, creed, age, sex, physical ability, veterans status, religious faith, or sexual preference of the wished. By accepting this greeting, you are accepting these terms: This greeting is subject to clarification or withdrawal. It is freely transferable with no alteration to the original greeting. It implies no promise by the wisher to actually implement any of the wishes for her/himself or others, and is void where taxed or prohibited by law, and is revocable at the sole discretion of the wisher. This wish is warranted to perform as expected within the usual application of good tidings for a period of one year or until the issuance of a subsequent holiday greeting, whichever comes first, and such warranty is limited to replacement of this wish or issuance of a new wish at the sole discretion of the wisher.
Re: A Norwegian traditional story...
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ruth - I'm late getting to my emails, but that was a delightful story. Thanks for sharing. Tamara Fallbrook Ca Happily owned by Harrison On Friday, December 24, 2004, at 09:26 AM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: A Norwegian story about talking animals:
Re: MANE ISSUES
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Carolyn, Harrison Fjord's mane was overgrown when I got him. We tried just trimming it up, but it still wanted to fall to the sides. He has a very thick mane. I ended up roaching it just using scissors (he objects to clippers). It has grown back quite nicely. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Wednesday, December 22, 2004, at 04:07 AM, Carolyn Mele wrote: His mane is approximately 6 inches long everywhere.
Re: saddle for fjord
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] We have had luck with a Wintec that is sold by Stateline Tack through PetCo. It may also be in their catalog. When we bought it at PetCo there was a 30 day return policy. It is a very inexpensive saddle ($300), so perhaps would not hold up to heavy use. Many of us with Fjords around here have found this saddle works well. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Thursday, December 16, 2004, at 05:19 AM, hardinlsc wrote: This message is from: hardinlsc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Good Morning Everyone, After a saddle slipping accident two weeks ago, we are convinced we need a wider saddle to better fit our Fjord mare. We are looking for a Western saddle or Western endurance saddle. We may have to have one custom made. Please share ALL adivce and give any suggestions that you think might help. Thank you all and have a very Merry Christmas!! Lee HardinMountains of North Carolina ___ No banners. No pop-ups. No kidding. Make My Way your home on the Web - http://www.myway.com
Re: Introduction
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lisa, Congratulations on getting a Fjord and rescuing a PMU mare all at the same time. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 10:43 AM, Lisa Wiley wrote: This message is from: Lisa Wiley [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, I am new here. I live in Connecticut. I am waiting for my Fjord to get here. She is a PMU mare. She has been bred to a Fjord stallion. You can see her at http://theanimalifarm.com/73.html . I have several minis and I drive a POA pony. I have always wanted a Fjord. I am planning to start with clicker training to get her to trust me. She has had no training. Her name is Fiona. Lisa Wiley Turnabout Portuguese Water Dogs Connecticut State Director Ponies With Purpose http://www.angelfire.com/ar3/ponieswithpurposeinc/ http://www.geocities.com/summerct/Turnabout.html
Re: fjords for sale, new photos
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was able to get in fine too. Beautiful website, and beautiful horses. I love those grays! Ssshhh. Don't tell Harrison. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Monday, December 13, 2004, at 04:37 AM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: This message is from: Ruth Bushnell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lauren I have had no problem seeing your beautiful Fjords. Make sure you are using .net and type the site in directly in the address space. Brian HMMM, I tried that and still no Fjords... says forbidden? I'll try later today... maybe it's overloaded. Ruthie, nw mt
Re: Fw: REdford and the Kidship kids
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sheri - I would love to see the pics, but this list does not allow attachments. Do you have a web site? Tamara owned by Harrison Fjord Fallbrook Ca On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 06:54 PM, Sheri E. Kane wrote: This message is from: Sheri E. Kane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi friends, thought you could use a cute Christmas picture. I work with kids who have severe emotional/mental illness issues in the school setting. Our kids work with Red my 7 year old fjord gelding each week. Here are a few pics with Santa. sheri and red [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IM000526.JPG] [demime 1.01d removed an attachment of type image/jpeg which had a name of IM000538.JPG]
Re: From your horse
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Too funny!! Thanks for sharing. tamara Fallbrook CA On Thursday, December 9, 2004, at 05:00 AM, Mike May wrote: This message is from: Mike May [EMAIL PROTECTED] A letter from our horses... When you are tense, let me teach you to relax. When you are short tempered, let me teach you to be patient. When you are short sighted, let me teach you to see. When you are quick to react, let me teach you to be calm. When you are angry, let me teach you to be serene. When you feel superior, let me teach you to be respectful. When you are self absorbed, let me teach you to think of greater things. When you are arrogant, let me teach you humility. When you are lonely, let me be your companion. When you are tired, let me carry the load. When you need to learn, let me teach you. After all, I am your horse. And now, the REAL DEAL.FROM YOUR HORSE!! When you are tense, let me teach you that there are lions in them thar woods and we need to leave. NOW! When you are short tempered, let me teach you to slog around the pasture for an hour before you can catch me. When you are short sighted, let me teach you to figure out where, exactly, in the 40 acres I am hiding. When you are quick to react, let me teach you that herbivores kick much faster harder than omnivores. When you are angry, let me teach you how well I can stand on my hind feet because I don't feel like cantering on my right lead today. When you are worried, let me entertain you with my mystery lameness. When you feel superior, let me teach you that, mostly, you are the maid service. When you are self absorbed, let me teach you to PAY ATTENTION. Remember? I told you about those lions in them thar woods? When you are arrogant, let me teach you what 1200 lbs. Of YAHOO LETS GO! can do when suitably inspired. When you are lonely, let me be your companion. Let's do lunch.. Also, breakfast, snack and dinner. When you are tired, don't forget the 600 lbs. of grain that needs to be unloaded. When you are feeling financially secure, let me teach you the meaning of Veterinary Services. When you want to learn, hang around, bud. I'll learn ya. AFTER ALL - YOU ARE MY PERSON Sincerely, Your Horse
Re: Url for the mule/cougar page?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sher - You can also access the pics at www.snopes.com . Type in mule and mountain lion in the search and it will come up. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Tuesday, December 7, 2004, at 07:30 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, folks - I'm trying to go back to the digest that first posted the url to the mule/cougar page. Having a bit of trouble figuring out how to look at former digests from the list. Don't know what digest # that url appeared in. Any tips, please? Sher in CO
Re: colic
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] We're thinking of you Loki, Sandra. Please keep us posted. Best wishes, Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 07:08 PM, sandra church wrote: This message is from: sandra church [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi-many listers have requested prayers for their fjords...now it's my turn. Loki refused his dinner tonight so that was my first clue that something wasn't right.
Re: The Mule and the Mountain Lion
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I sent the picture on to a friend with a mule and she emailed back that the pics have caused quite a stir on the mule lists. Apparently there is some doubt that the story is real and speculation that the cat was already dead. I checked with snopes.com and they are researching it. Jeesh. I sure get tired of urban legends. Tamara On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 05:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] In a message dated 12/5/2004 10:27:41 AM Pacific Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hi Brigid - I know what you mean about feeling sorry for the cat. Unfortunately we would either be feeling sorry for the cat or one of the dogs or the mule. Nature just isn't pretty sometimes. *** I agree. I guess I felt sorry for the cat because it looked so surprised! It had probably never experienced a prey animal fighting back so fiercely. I wonder how Fjords react to predators? There are bobcats and coyotes hunting in the pastures where I board -- a good thing because we have a ground squirrel problem -- and the horses don't even look at them. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
Re: The Mule and the Mountain Lion
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 05:50 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: *** I agree. I guess I felt sorry for the cat because it looked so surprised! It had probably never experienced a prey animal fighting back so fiercely. That is funny you say that Brigid. I have often said we humans are darn lucky that equines are prey animals and not predators. :^) Tamara Fallbrook CA
Re: Christmas parade
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is so neat. Our village of 40,000 (Southern California village - heavy sigh) had their annual Christmas parade last night and there was not one Fjord in it. My daughter and I would very much like to be able to have Harrison Fjord in it next year even if one of the kids just sat on his back and I led him. What is the best way to get a horse parade ready? Tamara Fallbrook CA Where it is actually winter weather today - wahoo! On Saturday, December 4, 2004, at 04:22 PM, POP3 wrote: This message is from: POP3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] The small town of Iola, Wi. pop. 1200, had their Christmas parade this morning at 10:00 and there was 5 Fjords in the parade so the breed was well represented.
Re: The Mule and the Mountain Lion
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is interesting. Harrison does not go after my dogs, but woe to them if they think they will be sharing his food g. It is about the only time I have seen him kick. Tamara Fallbrook Ca On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 08:07 AM, Jean Ernest wrote: Well, I can believe it.,.My mare Stella goes after dogs like that..Anita Unrau told me that Stella had actually killed a couple dogs while they had her.
Re: The Mule and the Mountain Lion
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Brigid - I know what you mean about feeling sorry for the cat. Unfortunately we would either be feeling sorry for the cat or one of the dogs or the mule. Nature just isn't pretty sometimes. We have a coyote problem around here and I've lost several animals to them. I just shrugged my shoulders and said oh, well, that's living with wild animals UNTIL one of them got my almost 14 year old dog that was mostly blind and deaf. I saved the dog, but had to have him euthanized. Let me tell you I bawled and bawled. After that I decided that on my land it is my job to protect my critters. I still feel conflicted though, but I just feel so bad for letting my little dog down. tamara On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 06:55 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] I saw this! I get a lot of hoax pictures, but this one rings authentic! I actually feel sorry for the cat. / )_~ /L/L Brigid Wasson SF Bay Area, CA www.Brigid.Clickryder.com
Re: The Mule and the Mountain Lion
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wow. Jean, thanks for sharing that. I'm forwarding it to my friend that just got a yearling mule to train. Tamara Fallbrook CA Not having winter weather compared to Alaska On Sunday, December 5, 2004, at 12:14 AM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] This was on the CD-L, but I also got the pics from a friend. Don't mess with mules! http://www.pbase.com/conklink/the_mule_and_the_mountain_lion Jean in Cold, snowy Fairbanks,l Alaska, -20F tonight
Re: Sher's Loki is official!
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm happy for you Sher. Are you riding Loki on trails yet? Tamara On Monday, November 22, 2004, at 07:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wahooo - it came in today!! I know it's just a little thing - but for me, it's a big deal! LOL Loki is the first horse I've ever owned that I actually cared enough to get his registration transfered over into my name. (Sorry, grandma Duchesse - but Loki got the honors! grin) So, sent in the regis. paper to Mike - and the fee for membership into NFHR. And today, Loki is now of-fish-alley mine! (Yeah, I know the brand inspection makes it so - and the bill of sale - but this is just well, different!!) Hubby was with me when I picked up the mail today - just gave me that look like I'd gone off my rocker, as I danced back to the car, waving the NFHR envelop around! LOL Sher Olson and Loki in Colorado Happy trails! Sher in Aurora, CO Trail book for equestrians, Colorado _http://RockyMountainTrails.net/Book.html_ (http://rockymountaintrails.net/Book.html)
Re: Horse Balance
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Amen! Thanks for sharing. Tamara :^) Fallbrook Ca www.algedifarm.com On Tuesday, November 2, 2004, at 03:39 AM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: So when you need the balance From circumstances in your day The best therapy you can seek- Is out there chomping hay! --unknown
Re: fun with Fjords
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Harrison Fjord and Solara have a jolly ball, but they don't seem to get very jolly with it. I've tried hanging it and leaving it down on the ground, but it never seems to move. I guess fly masks will have to suffice for now... :^) tamara Fallbrook cA On Friday, October 22, 2004, at 08:05 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a big fan of Jolly Balls...
Re: fun with Fjords
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I know what you mean. Sometimes I think we should provide stimulation for them like they do for animals in zoos. When I go out and put Harrison Fjord's fly mask on him I always wonder where I will find it at the end of the day. Chances are very good it won't be on his face. I put it on anyway because I know it entertains him. One day he had apparently tried to take his pen mate's off also since hers was sitting askew with one ear on and one off. Maybe I'll try that bobbing apple game... Tamara Fallbrook CA On Thursday, October 21, 2004, at 11:55 AM, jgayle wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] The fun with Fords makes me wonder if we have enough to stimulate or occupy their minds when they are barned or in the fields? I know the day I had Gunnar bob for an apple he was having a great time. Jean Author The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Looking for team in So Cal
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Automatic hay feeders? I've not heard of them or seen them in my scores of catalogs. Can you tell me who makes them or if there is a web site? Tamara most of the time nice weather Fallbrook CA but desires to stay in bed a bit longer in the mornings even if it isn't freezing... On Friday, October 15, 2004, at 08:50 PM, Gail Russell wrote: Jim and I went out today and picked up automatic hay feeders so we can stay in bed on wintry mornings (or what passes for same in Northern California) and have the horses automatically fed, perfectly on time.
Re: my new Fjord
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Congratulations Amy! I tried to see her pic, but was unable to get the page to come up. She sounds wonderful and I wish you as much joy with her and we have found with Harrison Fjord. Tamara Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com On Monday, October 4, 2004, at 07:47 AM, Amy Goodloe wrote: This message is from: Amy Goodloe [EMAIL PROTECTED] I went to the recent Troyer sale (aka Colorado Draft Horse Sale) looking for another Haflinger, and came home with a Fjord instead!
Re: Takhi horse - dumb question?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes! That sounds like what I saw. Sooo pretty. Let me know what you find. tamara On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 04:46 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have a video made by Eric and Judy Utheim back about 1987 and it shows a very dark stallion in Sweden at one of the shows they went to..He looks almost bay, with sort of light greyish hairs on the side of his mane with the black stripe. I will study the tape again and see if I can find out his name.
Re: Takhi horse - dumb question?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks for the info Jean. I will check out the discussion group when I get back from vaca. We are off to Oregon for 2 weeks - wahoo! Harrison Fjord got a nail in his hoof this past weekend. Fortunately it seems to have missed any vital areas. The vet will back Friday to check it before we leave. I am fervently hoping it is okay, so I don't have to find him a last minute babysitter. The man who does my feeding is really only good for feeding and observing. We sure love that big guy. (The horse - not the vet g). Tamara Fallbrook CA where it is hot, hot, hot with Santa Anas looming and please no fires On Wednesday, September 8, 2004, at 01:18 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] I have the Birdie Book and it is great1 I have almost worked my way through it, mostly reading it on the computer during those smoky days when I stayed indoors! You can print any of it out and read it that way also. Also, Tamara, look at the discussion group on this website..Lots of great discussions about horses, training, everything! Jean in sunny but cool Fairbanks, Alaska, may hit 60 today http://www.equinestudies.org/books/bookstore.html I also think her book The Birdie Book looks quite interesting. I am hesitant to spend $50 for a book I can't leaf through though. Anyone on the list able to review it for me? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Takhi horse - dumb question?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 05:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: also a good site is http://www.fieldtripearth.org/article.xml?id=925 Tillie I finally got a chance to look at the site. I think the dark brown duns are stunning. One of the old (1800s I think) Fjord stallion pics I saw on another site looks like the Fjord used to have a dark brown (almost bay?) dun also. Is that true or just the way the picture looks? And if it was true at one time what happened to that color? Tamara
Re: Takhi horse - dumb question?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thanks so much, Jean. There is a lot of misinformation out there then about our beloved Fjords' origins, eh? Tamara On Tuesday, September 7, 2004, at 03:40 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] OKfirst of all it is now thought that the Fjord is NOT descended from the Takhi or Przewalski but rather is descended from what researchers call the proto-draft, ancestor of the draft breeds and british ponies such as the Shetland and Highland ponies.
Re: Fjord story
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Such a lovely story. Touching and fun. Thanks for sharing. Tamara On Saturday, September 4, 2004, at 04:36 AM, Carol J. Makosky wrote: This message is from: Carol J. Makosky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, I was explaining the Fjord's food fetish to this person and she gave me OK to pass this funny story on to you.
Re: wormer suggestions
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] You are right Jerry - I don't know a thing about tape worms. Good thing you put your two cents in. I was speaking of the other varieties. Thanks for clarifying. tamara On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 04:31 PM, jerrell friz wrote: This message is from: jerrell friz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tamara wrote First get his stools tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against. --- Hey Tamara, better check with your vet. testing for tapeworms using stool samples, don't think so, blood test only. If you take the time to view the cd-rom that I previously mentioned,, I believe you might have another opinion. Regards, Jerry Friz, Anderson, Ca.
Re: wormer suggestions
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Laurie - [Disclaimer: My opinion and herd practice management style. Not intended to be taken as the only way to do it.] First get his stools tested to find out what kind of worm load you are up against. It is usually only about $10. If it is significant I would say you need the big guns (i.e. chemical wormers). When his worm load is under control that is the time to switch to herbal wormers. The herbals do a better job of discouraging worms as opposed to eradicating them. You can find several equine herbal wormers by doing a Google for it. I have had really good luck with Molly's Herbals at www.fiascofarm.com . Tamara On Tuesday, August 31, 2004, at 08:14 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] oz has a sore under his tail, which someone at the barn he's boarding at this week suggested may be caused by worms. perhaps they are causing the tail rubbing? it seems to be getting better, but was pretty raw looking when i found it sunday. is there a wormer out there that is considered less toxic than the standards, ivermectin and such? i dislike putting so much poison into my horse, but know that the alternative (worms) is not a good thing either. the woman i took lessons from when i first got a horse three years ago is very much into natural methods and treatments and tells me she believes ivermectin to be very hard on horses. any suggestions? thanks in advance laurie central minnesota
Re: flax seed
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Monday, August 30, 2004, at 07:37 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you go that route the seed needs to be soaked in water a minimum of 8 hours before use. I usually set it up for a 24 hour soak. I forget why now, but i knew at the time I started it and it made sense! it's my understanding that if they are not ground or soaked, they simply go straight through. Ah ha! See that does make sense! Tamara
flax seed
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I don't have electricity at the barn to grind the flax seed, so instead I use unground flax seed. If you go that route the seed needs to be soaked in water a minimum of 8 hours before use. I usually set it up for a 24 hour soak. I forget why now, but i knew at the time I started it and it made sense! Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, August 29, 2004, at 11:06 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lynda, You can actually safely feed up to a couple cups of ground flax daily, according to Dr. Beth Valentine on the Rural Heritage virtual vet, altho you probably won't want to feed that much. working up to a cup a day in a couple feedings. I use a coffee grinder to grind it fresh, buy it at the Health food section of our local Grocery (Fred Meyer) You can get it at the feed store, but what I got there wasn't as clean and smelled strong (rancid?) I also eat it myself..It has a lot of good stuff in it! but I think the senior feed and Ration Plus digestive aid helped also. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska, where I got the last of my hay delivered today! Beautiful local brome! At 12:32 AM 8/30/2004 -0400, you wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean, Thanks for the input and yes, his teeth are checked regularly. It has been a struggle! We never thought of flax seed, we will look into your suggestions. Thanks again, Lynda In a message dated 8/29/2004 6:11:29 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I assume you have checked his teeth, etc. I suggest starting him on Equine Senior feed plus a digestive aid called Ration Plus, available in most equine catalogs (such as KV Vet). Also give him some Rice bran and fresh ground flax seed. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Engar
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Lynda - I loved the Engar stories! I've never met Engar, but I love him! Tamara Fallbrook On Friday, August 27, 2004, at 10:17 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello Amy, everyone, I got quite a few private responses today about Engar asking to hear about him! So, here we go...
Re: Brenderup?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sorry. I didn't go into vehicle description because it was not the focus of my question. We haul our 26' AirStream trailer with the pick up, so my thinking was that if it can tow the AirStream it could tow a 2 horse trailer. Please let me know if I am mistaken. Tamara On Thursday, August 26, 2004, at 01:35 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The first thing you will probably learn is that a V8 pickup can mean any number of things. Some pickups are not geared for towing at all.
Brenderup?
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I'm going horse shopping this weekend and am intrigued with the engineering, ease of use, and comfort level for horses that the Brenderup trailer claims to have. Haul vehicle is not of concern as I have a V-8 pick-up. Has anyone on this list actual experience with a Brenderup? Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com
Fire in Oregon
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's a done deal. Please let us know how you fair. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, August 22, 2004, at 08:13 AM, Catherine lassesen wrote: See ya later. If you are a person of prayer. Our farm and critter would love to be considered in your next one.
Re: Time to Cool It
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Aaacckkk!!! I did it again. Sorry Steve. I've got to quit posting before I read all the way through. Thanks for being a good list papa. With great embarrassment, Tamara On Saturday, August 21, 2004, at 05:33 AM, Steve McIlree wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] I believe that there is nothing more productive to be said on the subject of Logo/BOD/Member Input. Folks are beginning to stray from positive input to repetition and personal attacks. Time to put a stop to it. Please cease, because it's a pain for me to set filters. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List
politics and bickering
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm not sure where Steve is to put a stop to this non-productive thread that is going on regarding BOD and volunteering. I am confused why this is allowed to continue when other derisive topics are put to a quick halt. So, perhaps I am out of line, but I beg of you people to STOP. I do not believe anything productive is being accomplished and I am to the point of thinking about unsubscribing until this blows over. Can all of you take it off-list? If there is to be a vote on the logo can it be done privately? I'm sure with the extreme emotion that has been presented here that those who don't like the old logo (and, yes, you can count me as one - shield is up) would not want to speak up. Enough already! Respectfully, Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA www.algedifarm.com
Re: Modellen/color question
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] That's what I wanted to know. Thanks. Tamara Fallbrook On Wednesday, August 18, 2004, at 05:22 AM, Lori Albrough wrote: This message is from: Lori Albrough [EMAIL PROTECTED] This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean - Looking at those pics Harrison looks more like a yellow dun than a red dun. He is very light like that and has a faint stripe down him back and very faint striping in his mane. The stripes and his eyelashes are a reddish gold. Is he a red dun or a yellow dun? Sometimes it can be hard to tell between a red and yellow dun just by looking. However since Harrison is the product of a brown father and red mother it is not genetically possible that he is a yellow, therefore we know he is red. Lori Lori Albrough Moorefield Ontario
Re: Modellen/color question
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jean - Looking at those pics Harrison looks more like a yellow dun than a red dun. He is very light like that and has a faint stripe down him back and very faint striping in his mane. The stripes and his eyelashes are a reddish gold. Is he a red dun or a yellow dun? Tamara On Tuesday, August 17, 2004, at 04:43 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sometimes you get an albino..pnk skin, blue eyes, white coat. http://www.nfhr.com/Horses%20of%20Different%20Colors.html look at Luna, A rare White Fjord or Kvit (Cremello) This was Modellen X LIN N-14521 Jean in smoky and warm Fairbanks, Alaska. 80 degrees and thick smoke! UGGGHH! I'm tired of this, let's get back to normal What happens when there are two creme genes. What color do you get? Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: fjords / drafts
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well that makes sense. He is a very sweet horse. The trainer told me today that we won't find a nicer horse. That made me very happy. Tamara, proud mom of Harrison Fjord Fallbrook Ca On Monday, August 16, 2004, at 05:34 PM, jgayle wrote: Tamara, your statement about your guy being a laid back kind of guy might explain his relaxing with sedation
Re: fjords / drafts
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Must just be Harrison is an easy goin' kinda guy then. Or mine is a draft horse, but yours isn't. Just kidding. tamara On Sunday, August 15, 2004, at 06:31 PM, jgayle wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Not true Tamara, not all fjords sedate easily. Mine takes two types of medicine to get him to where he can be worked on. Jean G Author The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re:fjords / drafts
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Sunday, August 15, 2004, at 04:47 PM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: It could also be stated that strictly speaking, many Fjord enthusiasts will always consider the Norwegian Fjord to be a DRAFT pony I don't know whether they are technically defined as a draft horse or not, but I do know that my vet told me that the draft breeds require less sedation than the non-draft breeds and for that reason he chose to sedate Harrison lightly. Even that made the big ol' guy very, very woozy. I think it may be wise for the Fjord owner to be aware that these beautiful horses sedate like a draft horse. Tamara Fallbrook CA
Re: Fjords recognizing Fjords
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Come to think of it, we did have him at horse camp where there were four other Fjords. Harrison didn't seem to care one way or the other. I have seen him call out to other horses, so I guess just any old equine will do. I believe that Anita from Anvil's told me they had him until he was 6 years old, so he spent a lot of time with other Fjords. Maybe he is just a super, easy going, kinda guy. Tamara On Saturday, August 14, 2004, at 02:59 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well, it would be interesting to take him to where there were other Fjords and see if he has any reaction to them! After all he grew up with them, or at least his mother! Horses of other breeds often have special attraction to horses that look like their mother! Maybe that is the key here. A friend had an arabian stallion that especially liked grey mares..his own mother was a grey. but he was scared of bay mares and refused to breed them as he'd had an older sister, a bay, who would beat up on him when he was a youngster. Jean in Fairbanks, Alaska I'm wondering if it is a learned behavior? Harrison Fjord came from a home where he was an only Fjord and it is the same at my house. He loves our paint horse, and he loved the one we used to have too. Both mares. Jean Ernest Fairbanks, Alaska mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Fjords recognizing Fjords
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I'm wondering if it is a learned behavior? Harrison Fjord came from a home where he was an only Fjord and it is the same at my house. He loves our paint horse, and he loved the one we used to have too. Both mares. Maybe he is just a big flirt. No wonder he so wants me to win Arianna. tamara Fallbrook CA On Saturday, August 14, 2004, at 01:32 PM, jgayle wrote: This message is from: jgayle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Holly does your pure Fjord recognize the cross as different? After reading the interesting emails re Fjords recognizing each other I wonder if these two accept each other as Fjords? Jean G. Author The Colonel's Daughter Occupied Germany 46-49 Send $20 to: PO Box 104 Montesano, WA 98563
Re: Fjords on PBS
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is fascinating, Cynthia. Thanks for sharing. Tamara Fallbrook CA On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 06:30 AM, Cynthia Madden wrote: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/secrets/case_amazon/clues.html
Re: Chincateague
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Valerie - Thanks for the interesting info on the Chincateague Pony. My daughter has read and re-read the Marguerite Henry books and used to dream of getting one of the ponies. Too far away from the west coast for us I'm afraid. It was very interesting to read a real account and I am forwarding it to said daughter. :^) Tamara Fallbrook CA On Sunday, August 8, 2004, at 06:04 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Something I know something about! My grandmother lived in Onancock, Va, just south of Chincateague, Virginia. We have spent many hours on the island, and the neighboring island Assateague, which is where the ponies run wild. The multi colored herds are the original ponies, with additional blood added here and there over the years. Back in the 60s an especially bad hurricane decimated the herd and some new blood was introduced at that time, none since as far as I know. As detailed in Marguerite Henry's book Misty of Chincateague, the ponies were thought to have originated from a shipwrecked Spanish Galleon, swimming ashore and finding the barrier islands to their liking. They survived and multiplied. They are still multiplying, which is why the Chincateague firemen auction off a few of the youngsters every July, a controversial and much commented on practice that has improved a lot from when I was a girl, and heard of the babies carted off in the backs of station wagons to who knows what life. Recently DNA testing was done on individual ponies which does indicate the old tales are true; they are descended from the Spanish Barb. It is a tough life though, I think the mosquitoes alone would drive most horses crazy, as well as the heat and frequent storms. The fantasies of the ponies frolicking in the surf is true, except the reality is that they are trying to rid themselves of the horrible biting flies. Assateague is a neat place, well worth the visit if you are on the Virginia Eastern Shore. Valerie Pedersen Columbia, CT
Re: Mid's Brita
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Jean - Thank you for sharing! Your horses are very gorgeous. I know Harrison is related to that line somehow, but I would have to look at the pedigree to know how. I am so in love with Harrison I wouldn't mind having a whole Fjord collection! Someday, someday... Tamara Fallbrook CA PS BTW Jean, I've been wondering, if it stays light most of the night do the temperatures still cool down or does it stay warm all night? On Sunday, August 8, 2004, at 05:39 PM, Jean Ernest wrote: This message is from: Jean Ernest [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Tamara, White duns are the best! I believe Phil Odden has Gwendolyn now. I have Stella II, a white dun mare and her granddaughter, Anvil's Adel, who is probably a yellow, no stripe. See them on my Picture trail account, http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view Jean in sunny and hot Fairbanks, Alaska 85 degrees
Re: Mid's Brita
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi Lynda - I just made a visit to your website and I had to tell you that white Fjord is stunning! I'll have to put one on my to have list. :^) Tamara On Sunday, August 8, 2004, at 03:49 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This message is from: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello everyone, For those who have requested more pictures of our young mare for sale, Brita, we were finally able to get a few more (before it started to rain!) this afternoon. Some are posted on our website, address listed below, and more are available via email. Thanks much, references are available. Lynda and Daniel Bailey's Norwegian Fjord Horse Farm White Cloud, MI 231-689-9902 [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://hometown.aol.com/baileysfjords/index.html
Re: cheap Fjord foals
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Steve - My sincere apologies. I really do understand the word STOP, but my mistake was in answering an email before reading through all 45 I had this morning. When I got to yours that said no more (two more words I actually understand - and not trying to be sarcastic here, but rather chiding myself) it was too late. I had already sent the email. I should have immediately posted an apology at that point. I wasn't sure if appropriate 'net etiquette was to apologize, again drawing attention to the thread, or to just let it go. I am so embarrassed. Again so sorry. Tamara Hiding out in Fallbrook CA and considering lurkerdom. On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 12:26 PM, Steve McIlree wrote: This message is from: Steve McIlree [EMAIL PROTECTED] Tamara-- Thursday, August 5, 2004, you wrote: I didn't interpret the post as promoting cross breeding. That has been done by the PMU ranchers already and as long as Premarin holds a market that will continue. I don't mean to pick on Tamara, but I do want to make it clear I am not kidding. Just what part of STOP is it that is hard to understand? We are NOT going to get involved in another discussion of PMU, cross-bred, rescue, etc. The next person who chimes in on this thread may find themselves off the list. -- Steve McIlree Owner/Administrator FjordHorse List.
Re: cheap Fjord foals
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Thursday, August 5, 2004, at 05:38 AM, Ruth Bushnell wrote: You can talk all you want about the cross bred being a darling horse and their life worth as much as a purebred, (but certainly not their net worth) and I can agree with that, but when you start promoting the practice of cross breeding I see red! I didn't interpret the post as promoting cross breeding. That has been done by the PMU ranchers already and as long as Premarin holds a market that will continue. Menopausal women - forgo the premarin! I think the person who posted has a big heart and was trying to save some babies and was hopeful that those of us that love Fjords would be more likely to rescue if Fjord blood was involved. I actually offered to geld a Fjord cross stallion on a Canadian ranch that was described as docile if someone would adopt him. I've no more room, and the thought of that wonderful Fjord disposition going to the meat man made me too sad. There were (are) many stallions in need, but because I love Fjords that is the one I wanted to help. That said (and before you breeders start flaming away) I do have to say that if you want a FJORD you need to get a purebred and you need to be darn picky about the breeder. I do not breed Fjords, but have experience breeding and buying other purebreds. The best way to be happy with the Fjord you get is to look at the breeder's program and spend the time researching. I recently had a thoroughbred breeder chastise me for adopting a PMU mare because it hurt her foal market. I don't agree. First of all I wasn't in the market for a horse - I only did it because I love animals and wanted to save a horse that would otherwise become someone's dinner. Secondly I would never buy a Thoroughbred anyway. And I am holding dear to the day when we move and have more land of getting a second Fjord. Speaking of which I contacted a breeder who occassionally posts on this list and requested a tour while we are vacationing near them. I never heard back. Is it possible said breeder knows from the list I can't buy right now and so doesn't want to waste their time. If so shame! I'll be looking somewhere more hospitable when the time comes... Tamara Rousso Fallbrook CA - where WNV has just reared its ugly head www.algedifarm.com
Re: BRAG ALERT
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, July 31, 2004, at 07:04 PM, Dave and Patti Walter wrote: She was being ridden western, she likes to jog vs trot. Glad to hear she did so well since we will be winning her. Since my daughter prefers western this works very well for us. Not only will Harrison be sooo happy to have a cute filly on the place, but we will have another riding horse for my daughter. Yippeee!! Tamara California where Arianna truly belongs munching sprouts and sipping carrot juice
Fwd: Save Money: Buy Horses
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] I thought this lady made some excellent points! Begin forwarded message: Save Money: Buy Horses I have SAVED thousands of dollars by owning horses. I honestly think if we listed it all out I'd be WAY in the good. Expenses horses have saved me: Prozak: I'm guessing it's expensive but thanks to riding I don't need it. Drug rehab for my kids: Very expensive, but my kids don't have time for that, they're outside fooling with the animals. Lawyer's fees: Unlike most people, I've never had to pay for a divorce, probably because riding keeps me mellow. I've also never murdered my children requiring a defense attorney...also due to riding. Getting my nails done: I'm amazed that pretty much everyone I know who doesn't ride does this, and was THRILLED to find that my sister-in-law spent as much on her nails as I do on my horses's shoes! Shopping: Seems all my non-horse acquaintances spend more on the bargains they find when they shop every Saturday, than I spent to have a horse to keep me busy that day. Jewelry: Can't wear it, might get a finger yanked off. I could go on and on. I may go buy a horse today just because I need the extra income. :-)) Angie McGhee Yahoo! Groups Links To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/UPFGroup/ To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service.
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #162
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 07:54 AM, Pat Holland wrote: This message is from: Pat Holland [EMAIL PROTECTED] MAKE SURE? ...lovely THEORY but illogical. I agree the term make sure is to strong wording. But do give it your best effort. You are working with nature and nothing is a guarantee stamp-out. Pat This makes me curious. Of course there are no guarantees, but it does seem to me if you breed two ugly, poor conformation horses you are pretty certain of getting an ugly horse with poor confirmation. Anyone have any experience with accidental breedings where two bad horses produced a beauty queen? If not than it would seem you are for sure safer to start with two fine looking horses to begin with. Tamara Fallbrook CA
Re: fjordhorse-digest V2004 #162
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] A, but maybe he would have been only 13 hh without that early gelding... :^) Tamara On Saturday, July 17, 2004, at 06:44 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 7/17/2004 4:26:48 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: My Gelling is short and big/bulky. Blows both those theories right out of the water :) He is barely 13.2 hands and is 1200 lbs
Arianna Harrison
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi List, Lovely sound don't you think? I snuck into the computer while mom is out, and I am thoroughly convinced that Arianna should be mine. Even though I am in the Viagra years of my life I would love to have a cute little filly around. Besides that I miss my own kind. That's not to say that I don't appreciate that these kind folks have put another horse on the property, but we all know that there's nothing quite like a Fjord. I need someone else who understands my eating disorder. Lucky for me I am quite a clever horse and will be able to forge mom's name to a check without any problem. $25 in the mail to those nice 4-H people. Please let Arianna know that California will be quite wonderful with me in it. Glowingly yours, Harrison Fjord Fallbrook CA Autographs given on Sundays 2:00 - 2:10.
help with horse injury
This message is from: Tamara Rousso [EMAIL PROTECTED] A friend of mine is babysitting a horse for a neighbor while neighbor is on vacation and the horse injured itself. I remember some talk about using Sugardine on one list. Would that be something to use on this injury? Her post follows: This is a wound about the size of a half dollar and it's through the muscle. It just looks now like a shovel handle went inside it. Now, though, the sides look a little swollen. Perhaps that's natural with an injury like this one. It is a little bit hot to the touch also. I'm flushing with peroxide, then spraying Scarlex inside and packing a lot of Swat all over the outside. Today was the first day that it looked like it might be having a little trouble. I notice just a little mucus looking stuff around the inside. I gave him a tetanus shot yesterday and started him on Pen G today. It's scary giving a 20 cc shot to a horse you don't know. Any other suggestions? Tamara
