[Flexradio] Poor sideband suppression

2006-09-23 Thread K6JEK
I'm getting poor opposite sideband suppression.Another Flex owner, 
Jeff, K6JCA, took a snapshot of my spectrum  off the air and there is a 
significant hump on the opposite sideband.  Other listeners have heard 
the opposite sideband.  It's not DSB.   It's maybe 30 dB down. The TX 
image alignment had very little effect.  I performed the alignment with 
a receiver, not a spectrum analyzer.

Where do I start?

Here's the set-up:   Used SDR 1000, age TBD but was on the air before I 
acquired it last week.  Has the PA.
New PreSonus Firebox, just got it from Flex (just  before announcement 
of the FA-66 [EMAIL PROTECTED])
48K sampling.  Have not installed the beta firmware
Cables from Flex, the HOSA cables
Firewire to Compaq laptop, 1.3 GHz
External (wall wart) power to Firebox
Parallel cable, computer to radio
35A linear power supply to SDR1K
1.6.2 software

One more thing.  The output from the Firebox measures about 1.98V 
during the audio TEST, nothing like the 6.93 hardwired into the set-up 
form.

Jon, K6JEK


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[Flexradio] on interfaces and modules

2006-09-23 Thread Jim Lux
Here's an interesting question.

Today, if you wanted to add a new modulation scheme to PowerSDR, it 
would involve recompiling (or at the minimum re-linking) and creating 
a new EXE file.

But what should it be in the future?

Consider a concept like "loadable IO drivers" or USB devices.  You 
plug it in, and it works, and you don't have to recompile ALL your 
applications to make use of it.  But even within this scheme there 
are two flavors: sometimes you have to reboot, sometimes you 
don't.  In PowerSDR terms, you might have to exit and restart Power 
SDR, with other schemes, you might just start using it.

And, then, once you have loadable "waveforms" (to use the SDR term of 
art).. what of the user interface... should the host program 
(PowerSDR or its successor) ask the new waveform module what the 
interface should be, and the waveform module tells the host how to 
"render" it?  Or, should UIs be totally separated (distribution wise) 
from waveforms?

Lots to think about.


James Lux, P.E.
Spacecraft Radio Frequency Subsystems Group
Flight Communications Systems Section
Jet Propulsion Laboratory, Mail Stop 161-213
4800 Oak Grove Drive
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Re: [Flexradio] CW tests here

2006-09-23 Thread Lee A Crocker
Bob

I did some more work on this and found the issue was
due to setting the DSP buffer to 4096 and having my
DSP bandwidth to 48k.  This made the buffer fill
slower and hence the delay and chopiness I was
experiencing.  What seemed to be happening was as I
momentarily changed from T to R the buffer would clear
and then have to refill on the next dit with enough
delay to screw up my rythm.  Setting the buffer back
to 2048 seems to have solved the problem.  I also am
using the D-44.

It might be a good idea to describe somewhere the
relationship between buffer setting and DSP bandwidth
with regard to expected CW performance if that hasn't
already been done.

73 

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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 07:12 PM 9/23/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>" There IS a lot of cool stuff, and to a
>certain extent, software radios, in general, are so new that NOBODY
>knows how to best control, interface, and use them (some
>commercial/govt implementations of SDR are so wonderfully abstract
>and generalized that they are totally impractical to use).  Interface
>design and conceptual architectures are a matter of
>experimentation
>"
>
>Jim,
>
>Basically  I agree with most of your comments.
>
>I will take exception, however, to "nobody knows how to .. interface 
>them..  Interface  design and conceptual architectures are a 
>matter of experimentation"
>
>My take on it is just about opposite of what you state:  To me user 
>interfaces in real time system control (especially embedded systems 
>where the users control hardware are fixed vs. the "Windoze" 
>platforms ) are a well researched and very well understood subject.


But not in the software radio business... For the straightforward 
"knob turning" kinds of controls, sure, there's a lot of experience 
to draw on.  But, for instance, what should the interface be to 
define an arbitrary IF passband characteristic?  complex weight vs 
frequency? Some parametric form?

And, what should the "user interface" be vs what should the interface 
between UI and underlying radio engine be?  It is unlikely that it 
should be the same.  Consider the audio equalizer business... lots of 
competing schemes out there (although I believe for "pro" 
applications, they've probably settled on something).

And then, say you want to support different modulation strategies for 
digital data.. should the abstraction be at the "define modulation in 
an analytical way" or "select from an enumerated list of canned 
schemes"..  Consider something as simple as biphase 
modulation.   Should you specify mod index and symbol rate?  But how 
would you accomodate GMSK?  What about the various 
COFDM  schemes.  Sure, today, hams use things like MFSK16 or Olivia, 
which implies a particular modulation scheme, but, once you've 
implemented the modem, you could paramterize it fairly easily 
(carrier spacing, mod indices, modulation order per carrier, 
etc.)  Should this be exposed at the command interface?  or, just 
embedded in a definition of the waveform.

>   Based on my background I have submitted many comments to Flex re 
> all that.  I don't know, I spent years in that field, and a lot of 
> people paid me for what I did.   Maybe I was just "experimenting" 
> who knows??   If that was the case, please don't tell my old boss.. hi hi


I think the path is clearer for the UI end of things, but, still, 
sort of vague, when it comes to capabilities that have never been 
available...

For instance, what's the optimum UI for a system where you have an 
adapative phased array that can null interferers?  (or, similarly, 
where you've got an interference cancellation system).

What about a radio/antenna system where you have control over both 
azimuth and elevation should the interface ask you to select a 
"look angle"?  or, at a higher level of abstraction, a "target 
location" (rolling in some estimate of propagation)

I think we're just starting to poke at what's possible.  Consider all 
the "point at signal on spectrum analyzer" kind of 
interfaces.  There's a pretty wide variety in the PSK31 world.. Heck, 
do you prefer waterfall scrolling horizontally or vertically?  What 
about 3-D waterfall displays with signal amplitude shown as vertical 
displacement from a virtual plane tilted.




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Re: [Flexradio] CW timing changes

2006-09-23 Thread Lee A Crocker
I figured out what is going on.  I had checked 4096 on
the DSP buffer and only 48K on the soundcard so the
buffer was taking a long time to fill/purge on TX/RX
transition.  Setting the buffer back to 2048 resolved
the problem.  I mention this so others that may
experience this problem can find a resolution.

73  W9OY

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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread k6kdk
From: "Jim Lux" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
" There IS a lot of cool stuff, and to a
certain extent, software radios, in general, are so new that NOBODY
knows how to best control, interface, and use them (some
commercial/govt implementations of SDR are so wonderfully abstract
and generalized that they are totally impractical to use).  Interface
design and conceptual architectures are a matter of
experimentation
"

Jim,

Basically  I agree with most of your comments.

I will take exception, however, to "nobody knows how to .. interface them.. 
 Interface  design and conceptual architectures are a matter of 
experimentation"

My take on it is just about opposite of what you state:  To me user 
interfaces in real time system control (especially embedded systems where 
the users control hardware are fixed vs. the "Windoze" platforms ) are a 
well researched and very well understood subject.   Based on my background I 
have submitted many comments to Flex re all that.  I don't know, I spent 
years in that field, and a lot of people paid me for what I did.   Maybe I 
was just "experimenting" who knows??   If that was the case, please don't 
tell my old boss.. hi hi

-73s  K6KDK





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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread Jim Lux
At 03:15 PM 9/23/2006, Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
> > 2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I
> > really cannot get the hang of it...
>
>
>Of all the things that should be child's play and totally configurable
>in a software defined radio, one would think generating CW, keyer
>memories, yada, yada.
>
>As should be configurable transmitted CW waveshape, and configurable
>separate timing sequences for multiple devices, like amp and
>tower-mounted preamp for UHF.
>
>As should be virtual interfaces for control, voice, and CW for use by
>a contest/DX logging program running on the same computer...
>
>Not that it should already be done -- there's too much already
>accomplished by too few to deserve anything but praise.
>
>Just to say that somewhere in an SDR is clearly the most excellent,
>forward-looking place to put all such things. If I could retire
>tomorrow, I'd work on it.


you forgot slicing bread and eliminating world hunger.



>I agree with the issue of the complaint, but not the tone.
>
>
>73, Guy K2AV.




This is a generic problem with software based platforms.  It 
basically gives you an incredibly flexible and spacious canvas and a 
big, big box of paints and brushes, but there's still a lot of work 
to implement a features.  It's not so much that any one feature is 
particularly difficult, it's that there's literally dozens and dozens 
of particular features that might be implemented, and not enough 
worker bees to implement them all.  Not to mention that most of the 
worker bees are doing it for love, not money, so they tend to work on 
features that are personally interesting to them.

Unless you're a big mfr with a big R&D budget where you can pay 
people to work on particular features, you sort of have to take what 
you can get.

For myself, I'd like to see cleaner, well-documented control, data, 
and audio interfaces that allow one to use the full power of the 
underlying engines (i.e. CAT is fine if you want to emulate a 
standard radio, but doesn't give one much scope for spectral 
displays, fancy filter specifications, etc.). As far as CW 
performance goes, I'd be happy with a couple of bare wires that get 
touched together, since I don't use that mode, so, to my mind, 
precious volunteer development resources expended there are a waste. 
However, I realize that I'm in the minority here, so I content myself 
with ranting about it every 6 months or so, and let the product 
evolve in its own way.  There IS a lot of cool stuff, and to a 
certain extent, software radios, in general, are so new that NOBODY 
knows how to best control, interface, and use them (some 
commercial/govt implementations of SDR are so wonderfully abstract 
and generalized that they are totally impractical to use).  Interface 
design and conceptual architectures are a matter of 
experimentation.  With the SDR-1000 and PowerSDR at least that 
experimentation is possible..  A lot easier than machining a new 
front panel and buying new knobs and displays, laying out PC boards, 
or burning PROMs every time you get a new idea to try out.





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[Flexradio] CW tests here

2006-09-23 Thread Robert McGwier
After the reports of worsened CW keyer response I got on the air and did 
some QSO's.  I don't see one iota of evidence that the keyer has 
degraded in my set up.

It is important to set the latency setting parameters correctly to use 
CW.   First, if you are using a Firebox make sure that your latency is 
10ms or less.   Start at 10ms.

Set your audio buffers to on the setup tab to 512.  Setup->Audio-> 
Buffer Size.

I had several QSO's at 35-40 wpm and I cannot find any degradation in 
the performance of the keyer,  the switching, etc.  I am using the Delta 
44 and that might be different from what most are using that are having 
the problem.  I can't say.  All I can say is that sitting here 
operating,  I see nothing different at all.

The other factor is that I do not use the parallel port keying (the key 
jack on the physical radio).  I use a serial port connection for my 
paddle.  I suspect that almost everyone who is getting good (excellent 
in my case) performance is using the serial port.

I hope these instructions help and I am sorry that I am unable to 
reproduce or confirm your findings.  I would work on it if I could.

Bob

-- 
AMSAT VP Engineering. Member: ARRL, AMSAT-DL, TAPR, Packrats,
NJQRP/AMQRP, QRP ARCI, QCWA, FRC. ARRL SDR Wrk Grp Chairman
"You see, wire telegraph is a kind of a very, very long cat.
You pull his tail in New York and his head is meowing in Los
Angeles. Do you understand this? And radio operates exactly
the same way: you send signals here, they receive them there.
The only difference is that there is no cat." - Einstein


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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
Guy Olinger, K2AV wrote:
> I agree with the issue of the complaint, but not the tone.
>
>
> 73, Guy K2AV.
>   

I'm sorry if my tone seems abrasive, I admit that I tend to state my 
opinions and point of view in few words.

Tha fact is, I want to like the SDR1000 and, whilst I was using what was 
sold as a kit and work in progress I did give more than I have done 
since buying the latest unit.

Whilst it now appears than my TX trouble was probably due to having the 
headphones plugged into the soundcard, which no one ever told me should 
not be done, the new unit is advertised alongside other commercial 
offerings and in no way is there a suggestion that the SDR1000 should 
fall short of other radios that cost similar amounts.

If you were to buy a Yaesu/Kenwood/Icom for the same money as the 
SDR1000 now costs, would you accept that you needed another keyer?  20 
years ago, maybe, but surely not now?

If the pre-amp switched on and off as you tuned the radio, would that be 
OK?  especially if other people with the same radio said their radio did 
not do this?  That would probably be taken as evidence of a fault with 
the particular radio, and not, as seems to be the case here, as a sign 
that the radio is not faulty.

I'm sorry, but if Flex-radio want to be main stream, and advertise and 
sell alongside the other main radios, as their agent in the UK now does, 
then at least the base model has to work in a similar way to the other 
radios in the same price range, in my opinion.  Otherwise, you should 
make it clear that the radio has faults, or is not fully functioning 
when you sell it...

I do buy QRP kits, and I accept the limitations, they cost less and are 
sold and advertised as QRP kits, not fully functioning commercial 
quality radios.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread Dale Boresz
Hello Dave,

John beat me to it, but I'll still pass along my comments and a suggestion.

I've been using the SDR-1000 for almost 2 years now on cw.  Although I'm 
not certain, I believe that the SDR1K keyer is Iambic mode B. I've been 
a cw op for over 40 years now, and I have strong opinions about what 
'feels' right to me regarding keyers. I have three radios - all with 
perfectly fine keyers -- an Elecraft K2, an ICOM 746PRO, and the 
SDR-1000, and although I can use the built-in keyers on all of them, my 
preference is for my trusty external Logikey K-3. It's not better than 
the rest -- it's just that I like the way it feels. So, I made the 
decision a long time ago to use an external keyer that I'm comfortable 
with on all radios so that I don't need to get accustomed to the subtle 
differences between them. This has worked very well for me. The K1EL 
keyer which John suggested is very inexpensive, and I'm sure you'd be 
able to find a mode that is comfortable for you.

I now use the SDR-1000 exclusively; nothing else that I have -- or have 
ever heard (I live about 2 miles from AES - Cleveland, so I've pretty 
much heard 'em all) comes even close to the performance of the 
SDR-1000's receive capabilities, especially when it comes to cw operation.

The SDR-1000's keyer actually works very well -- if you're accustomed to 
iambic mode 'B'. But, it sounds like you're a  mode 'A' op, so of course 
the timing will be different, and you'll have a tough time trying to 
send decent code. IMHO, considering the incredible performance of the 
SDR-1000, you'd be doing yourself a serious disservice by giving up when 
you could just use an external keyer.

73, Dale
WA8SRA



David Ackrill wrote:

>N3WT wrote:
>  
>
>>Dave
>>
>>May I suggest using an external keyer.  I am more comfortable using an
>>external keyer with most rigs, including the IC-756PROII and even Ten Tecs.
>>And now Including the SDR-1000.  I did not expect the internal keyer to be
>>just right for me  from the start.  I did not like Icom or Ten Tec keyers
>>either.   It is nice to have, and maybe will be improved in the future in
>>the SDR.I use the new WinKeyerUSB Keyer from K1EL which has  every
>>possible setting available and PC control.  However, almost any modern keyer
>>would do.
>>
>>
>
>Hi John,
>
>So, what we are saying is that the keyer on the SDR1000 is worse than 
>the one on the FT817?
>
>I have used external CW keyers in the past, but ever since my TS850S 
>I've been able to use a half decent internal keyer.
>
>For the cost of a TS2000, which I'm told allows both Iambic modes, this 
>shouldn't be a case of buying another keyer, should it?
>
>I'm not asking for weighting and the rest (although most rigs half the 
>price of the SDR1000 have them) but just to be able to send CW with my 
>paddles isn't too much to ask, is it?  It seems that so much is 
>available from software, except a CW keyer...
>
>Dave (G0DJA)
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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread Guy Olinger, K2AV
> 2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I
> really cannot get the hang of it...


Of all the things that should be child's play and totally configurable 
in a software defined radio, one would think generating CW, keyer 
memories, yada, yada.

As should be configurable transmitted CW waveshape, and configurable 
separate timing sequences for multiple devices, like amp and 
tower-mounted preamp for UHF.

As should be virtual interfaces for control, voice, and CW for use by 
a contest/DX logging program running on the same computer...

Not that it should already be done -- there's too much already 
accomplished by too few to deserve anything but praise.

Just to say that somewhere in an SDR is clearly the most excellent, 
forward-looking place to put all such things. If I could retire 
tomorrow, I'd work on it.


I agree with the issue of the complaint, but not the tone.


73, Guy K2AV.

(Waiting to see some Flex published performance figures using the 
FA-66)




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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread Charles Greene
For many months I used an external electronic 
keyer with its own monitor and turned the monitor 
on the SDR-1000 off.  Worked fine.  Then the 
software guys improved the Iambic keyer, so I put 
the external keyer away.  Looks like I will need 
to bring it back until the SDR-1000 keyer gets 
fixed again.  Can't we have a Mode A and B?

73,  Chas W1CG

At 05:08 PM 9/23/2006, David Ackrill wrote:
>José Dumoulin wrote:
> > I have the SDR1k for more than one year and half now. Since day one, I
> > indicated many times that we needed the two iambic modes. Some of us,
> > I know I am not the only one, are very uncomfortable with what we have
> > now, to say the least. When I want to work CW, I must go back to my
> > old classic rig.
> >
> > Flex and the author of the CW part of the software promised a
> > modification, but to no avail. Recently, in Friedrishefen, I recalled
> > this problem to Gerald and Eric (AA4SW). Nada, nothing, rien.
> >
> > 73
> > José F5JD
> >
>Hi José,
>
>If that is the case, then I will be boxing the SDR1000 up and returning
>it under the guarantee period as it is not worth the money if I cannot
>send CW on it...  That's a major part of my enjoyment of Amateur Radio,
>especially on the VHF/UHF and SHF bands, to which I was planning to
>transvert to using the SDR1000.
>
>I'll also put down the preamp problems as well, of course, but not being
>able to send sensible CW using paddles has got to be a major problem
>with any modern rig.
>
>Dave (G0DJA)
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Re: [Flexradio] DC/DC Converter (DC1) Replaced with Linear Supply

2006-09-23 Thread Jimmy Jones
>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>
>>>> I just wanted to let you know about a modification I made to my
>>>> radio.  DC1 is a switch mode converter that provides +/- 15 volts
>>>> for the instrumentation amplifiers IC6/7 on receive that interface
>>>> the QSD to the sound card.
>>>>
>>>> The DC/DC converter's internal oscillator free runs at ~120 kHz
>>>> and is very rich with odd harmonics, every 240 or so kHz, throughout
>>>> the HF range.
>>>>
>>>> This manifests itself as low level 'carriers' that drift around and
>>>> through receive frequencies.  When the SRD is first powered up they
>>>> move quite fast, but after the unit has warmed up the move very, very
>>>> slowly through your QSO.
>>>>
>>>> These signals were about S4 on my SDR1000 in the 40M band and are 
>>>> easily removed with the automatic notch.  But, loving to tinker like I do I
>>>> removed the DC1 and soldered a 7 pin header in its place. I used a
>>>> 1" x 2" x 2", +/- 15v linear supply wired to the header.
>>>>
>>>> How's it work? Great!  No more warbling tones from within the SDR.
>>>>
>>>> I wish I would have done more before and after testing. Now when I
>>>> connect the receiver to a dummy load, most of the bands are clear of
>>>> spurs with the noise floor at -153 dBm.  I imagine that the fundamental
>>>> waveform (square wave?) of the DC/DC converter was putting an awful lot
>>>> of total integrated power into the QSD and mixing with other signals
>>>> there to increase the total spurs.
>>>>
>>>> It just keeps gettin' better.
>>>>
>>>> Regards,
>>>> John
>>>> k2ox
>>>>
>>>> 
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Re: [Flexradio] DC/DC Converter (DC1) Replaced with Linear Supply

2006-09-23 Thread Cecil Bayona
I can hear them very faintly on my TS-930 until I turn off the SDR-1000 
then they disappear, in my case the noise is coming from the SDR-1000.


Ray J wrote:
> thats funny.. I hear signals like this on my  IC- 746 and on my FT-920 
> quite often ..  likewise I can hear/see then on my sdr-1000..
> I do not think this a fault of the radio. or if it is its a common 
> problem...
> 
> Ray J
> W9RAY
> 
> Cecil Bayona wrote:
>> Myself and several others must be imagining this problem, funny thing my 
>> other radios don't pick up these moving signals, it's inside my radio.
>>
>> Can you possibly imagine that someone else's radio might not work as 
>> good as yours without being the operators fault? Maybe, just maybe they 
>> got a radio that has something wrong out of the factory?
>>
>> Nah, it could not ever happen.
>>
>> J
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Re: [Flexradio] DC/DC Converter (DC1) Replaced with Linear Supply

2006-09-23 Thread Ray J
thats funny.. I hear signals like this on my  IC- 746 and on my FT-920 
quite often ..  likewise I can hear/see then on my sdr-1000..
I do not think this a fault of the radio. or if it is its a common 
problem...

Ray J
W9RAY

Cecil Bayona wrote:
>
> Myself and several others must be imagining this problem, funny thing my 
> other radios don't pick up these moving signals, it's inside my radio.
>
> Can you possibly imagine that someone else's radio might not work as 
> good as yours without being the operators fault? Maybe, just maybe they 
> got a radio that has something wrong out of the factory?
>
> Nah, it could not ever happen.
>
> J


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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
N3WT wrote:
> Dave
>
> May I suggest using an external keyer.  I am more comfortable using an
> external keyer with most rigs, including the IC-756PROII and even Ten Tecs.
> And now Including the SDR-1000.  I did not expect the internal keyer to be
> just right for me  from the start.  I did not like Icom or Ten Tec keyers
> either.   It is nice to have, and maybe will be improved in the future in
> the SDR.I use the new WinKeyerUSB Keyer from K1EL which has  every
> possible setting available and PC control.  However, almost any modern keyer
> would do.

Hi John,

So, what we are saying is that the keyer on the SDR1000 is worse than 
the one on the FT817?

I have used external CW keyers in the past, but ever since my TS850S 
I've been able to use a half decent internal keyer.

For the cost of a TS2000, which I'm told allows both Iambic modes, this 
shouldn't be a case of buying another keyer, should it?

I'm not asking for weighting and the rest (although most rigs half the 
price of the SDR1000 have them) but just to be able to send CW with my 
paddles isn't too much to ask, is it?  It seems that so much is 
available from software, except a CW keyer...

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread N3WT
Dave

May I suggest using an external keyer.  I am more comfortable using an
external keyer with most rigs, including the IC-756PROII and even Ten Tecs.
And now Including the SDR-1000.  I did not expect the internal keyer to be
just right for me  from the start.  I did not like Icom or Ten Tec keyers
either.   It is nice to have, and maybe will be improved in the future in
the SDR.I use the new WinKeyerUSB Keyer from K1EL which has  every
possible setting available and PC control.  However, almost any modern keyer
would do.

73 and hopefully you will be able to get it going okay .   John, N3WT


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There is something really not right with the keyer system.

I've slowed to a fraction of the speed I use on my FT817, and I still
cannot send reasonable CW with the SDR1000.

There's got to be a better keyer...

This will definitely be a show stopper for me, I really cannot use a
radio with such an appalling CW keyer.

Dave (G0DJA)

David Ackrill wrote:
> The keyer in PowerSDR is driving me nuts!
>
> 1. Is there any way to produce sidetone without transmitting please?
>
> 2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I
> really cannot get the hang of it, and I'm just about ready to send it
> back to Waters and Stanton.
>
> I can stand most things, but not being able to send CW with my paddles
> will drive me completely up the wall...
>
> Dave (G0DJA0
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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
José Dumoulin wrote:
> I have the SDR1k for more than one year and half now. Since day one, I 
> indicated many times that we needed the two iambic modes. Some of us, 
> I know I am not the only one, are very uncomfortable with what we have 
> now, to say the least. When I want to work CW, I must go back to my 
> old classic rig.
>
> Flex and the author of the CW part of the software promised a 
> modification, but to no avail. Recently, in Friedrishefen, I recalled 
> this problem to Gerald and Eric (AA4SW). Nada, nothing, rien.
>
> 73
> José F5JD
>
Hi José,

If that is the case, then I will be boxing the SDR1000 up and returning 
it under the guarantee period as it is not worth the money if I cannot 
send CW on it...  That's a major part of my enjoyment of Amateur Radio, 
especially on the VHF/UHF and SHF bands, to which I was planning to 
transvert to using the SDR1000.

I'll also put down the preamp problems as well, of course, but not being 
able to send sensible CW using paddles has got to be a major problem 
with any modern rig.

Dave (G0DJA)

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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread José Dumoulin
I have the SDR1k for more than one year and half now. Since day one, I 
indicated many times that we needed the two iambic modes. Some of us, I 
know I am not the only one, are very uncomfortable with what we have 
now, to say the least. When I want to work CW, I must go back to my old 
classic rig.

Flex and the author of the CW part of the software promised a 
modification, but to no avail. Recently, in Friedrishefen, I recalled 
this problem to Gerald and Eric (AA4SW). Nada, nothing, rien.

73
José F5JD

David Ackrill a écrit :
> The keyer in PowerSDR is driving me nuts!
>
> 1. Is there any way to produce sidetone without transmitting please?
>
> 2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I 
> really cannot get the hang of it, and I'm just about ready to send it 
> back to Waters and Stanton.
>
> I can stand most things, but not being able to send CW with my paddles 
> will drive me completely up the wall...
>
> Dave (G0DJA0
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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill

There is something really not right with the keyer system.

I've slowed to a fraction of the speed I use on my FT817, and I still 
cannot send reasonable CW with the SDR1000.

There's got to be a better keyer...

This will definitely be a show stopper for me, I really cannot use a 
radio with such an appalling CW keyer.

Dave (G0DJA)

David Ackrill wrote:
> The keyer in PowerSDR is driving me nuts!
>
> 1. Is there any way to produce sidetone without transmitting please?
>
> 2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I 
> really cannot get the hang of it, and I'm just about ready to send it 
> back to Waters and Stanton.
>
> I can stand most things, but not being able to send CW with my paddles 
> will drive me completely up the wall...
>
> Dave (G0DJA0
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Re: [Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread John Basilotto
Turn Drive or PWR control to 0

John P. Basilotto
W5GI
Marketing and Product Manager
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Office 512-250-8595
Mobile 512-663-6727

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The keyer in PowerSDR is driving me nuts!

1. Is there any way to produce sidetone without transmitting please?

2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I
really cannot get the hang of it, and I'm just about ready to send it
back to Waters and Stanton.

I can stand most things, but not being able to send CW with my paddles
will drive me completely up the wall...

Dave (G0DJA0

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[Flexradio] Iambic Keyer

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
The keyer in PowerSDR is driving me nuts!

1. Is there any way to produce sidetone without transmitting please?

2. I think this is the 'wrong' iambic from the one I'm used to.  I 
really cannot get the hang of it, and I'm just about ready to send it 
back to Waters and Stanton.

I can stand most things, but not being able to send CW with my paddles 
will drive me completely up the wall...

Dave (G0DJA0

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Re: [Flexradio] 20m Net Schedule

2006-09-23 Thread Larry Taft
John,

The Sunday Net is at 1900 UTC or 2:00 PM CDT here in South Texas. on 
14,329 KHz +/- depending on who else is near the frequency.

73, Larry  K2LT

John Spangler wrote:
> When and where is the Sunday 20m Flex Radio net?
>
> Are there any other scheduled nets?
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Re: [Flexradio] DC/DC Converter (DC1) Replaced with Linear Supply

2006-09-23 Thread Cecil Bayona
I'm sorry, I apologize, I got a lemon of a radio, and the manufacturer 
is not interested in fixing it, must be my fault somehow.

Myself and several others must be imagining this problem, funny thing my 
other radios don't pick up these moving signals, it's inside my radio.

Can you possibly imagine that someone else's radio might not work as 
good as yours without being the operators fault? Maybe, just maybe they 
got a radio that has something wrong out of the factory?

Nah, it could not ever happen.

Jimmy Jones wrote:
> Like I've said many times before(personal opinion).It's not a 
> rig for everyone.
> Take my advice now and sell.
> You boat anchor needs you.
> 
> KD5NWA wrote:
>> I have a SDR-1000 that I bought at Dayton and frankly I have been 
>> disappointed in it's performance, I have all these signals specially 
>> in the lower bands that are wondering around and changing frequency 
>> on me, they are at least +20 dB above the noise floor. On my radio 
>> the broad carriers never stop moving but your description sounds like 
>> the problem I have, except mine seems to be worse. If I turn off the 
>> radio and listen instead with my TS-930 they simply are not there at all.
>>
>> I have not turned on the radio in about 45 days because of these 
>> problems, and also I have multitudes of large spurs all over the 
>> place getting worse the higher you go in frequency. 10M is downright 
>> useless, large spurs as far as the eye can see. I sent some pictures 
>> to Flexradio of my wondering carriers but nothing became of it.
>>
>> I've been seeing comments from others about how great the radio is, 
>> but frankly I have not seen it, right now my SoftRocks work better. 
>> Looks like I'm going to have to do some surgery before this is over.
>>
>>
>> At 10:06 AM 9/22/2006, you wrote:
>>   
>>> Hi Folks,
>>>
>>> I just wanted to let you know about a modification I made to my
>>> radio.  DC1 is a switch mode converter that provides +/- 15 volts
>>> for the instrumentation amplifiers IC6/7 on receive that interface
>>> the QSD to the sound card.
>>>
>>> The DC/DC converter's internal oscillator free runs at ~120 kHz
>>> and is very rich with odd harmonics, every 240 or so kHz, throughout
>>> the HF range.
>>>
>>> This manifests itself as low level 'carriers' that drift around and
>>> through receive frequencies.  When the SRD is first powered up they
>>> move quite fast, but after the unit has warmed up the move very, very
>>> slowly through your QSO.
>>>
>>> These signals were about S4 on my SDR1000 in the 40M band and are 
>>> easily removed with the automatic notch.  But, loving to tinker like I do I
>>> removed the DC1 and soldered a 7 pin header in its place. I used a
>>> 1" x 2" x 2", +/- 15v linear supply wired to the header.
>>>
>>> How's it work? Great!  No more warbling tones from within the SDR.
>>>
>>> I wish I would have done more before and after testing. Now when I
>>> connect the receiver to a dummy load, most of the bands are clear of
>>> spurs with the noise floor at -153 dBm.  I imagine that the fundamental
>>> waveform (square wave?) of the DC/DC converter was putting an awful lot
>>> of total integrated power into the QSD and mixing with other signals
>>> there to increase the total spurs.
>>>
>>> It just keeps gettin' better.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> John
>>> k2ox
>>> 

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Re: [Flexradio] error message on starting SVN 687

2006-09-23 Thread Tim Ellison
That is the fix.  Rename your current DB to something else.  Start up
SVN 688 and import you database from 687.  I had to stop and restart SVN
688 after the import for the Panadapter to work properly, but it works.

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I have the same problem also.
I believe it has to do with the database and the new dual receive
capability.
If you delete your current database it will start up and then
you will have to set up a new one.

Dave - N4DWK



N3WT wrote:
> 
> 
> On  updating to SVN 687, on loading of the PowerFlex program, I
receive the
> error:
>  "Failed to load resources from resource file. Please check your
setup"
> Click OK and program stops loading and quits. Returning back to
SVN 686
> and all works okay.  What is the error message about and what  may
be my
> problem?
> I was waiting for other reports of same error here on the forum, but
have
> not seen them, so must be me.
> 
> 73  N3WT  John.
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] error message on starting SVN 687

2006-09-23 Thread Dave Kiefer
I have the same problem also.
I believe it has to do with the database and the new dual receive
capability.
If you delete your current database it will start up and then
you will have to set up a new one.

Dave - N4DWK



N3WT wrote:
> 
> 
> On  updating to SVN 687, on loading of the PowerFlex program, I receive the
> error:
>  "Failed to load resources from resource file. Please check your setup"
> Click OK and program stops loading and quits. Returning back to SVN 686
> and all works okay.  What is the error message about and what  may be my
> problem?
> I was waiting for other reports of same error here on the forum, but have
> not seen them, so must be me.
> 
> 73  N3WT  John.
> 
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[Flexradio] New SDR transciever kit announced

2006-09-23 Thread Tayloe Dan-P26412
A new kit has been introduced by Hendricks QRP Kits that integrates a
single band softrock style SDR receiver with a 2.5w VXO controlled cw
transmitter. 

http://www.qrpkits.com/
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Re: [Flexradio] error message on starting SVN 687

2006-09-23 Thread Stan
I had the same error and had to go back to 686

Stan
AH6JR



On Saturday 23 September 2006 06:07 am, N3WT wrote:
> On  updating to SVN 687, on loading of the PowerFlex program, I receive the
> error:
>  "Failed to load resources from resource file. Please check your setup"
> Click OK and program stops loading and quits. Returning back to SVN 686
> and all works okay.  What is the error message about and what  may be
> my problem?
> I was waiting for other reports of same error here on the forum, but have
> not seen them, so must be me.
>
> 73  N3WT  John.
>
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[Flexradio] error message on starting SVN 687

2006-09-23 Thread N3WT



On  updating to SVN 687, on loading of the PowerFlex program, I receive the
error:
 "Failed to load resources from resource file. Please check your setup"
Click OK and program stops loading and quits. Returning back to SVN 686
and all works okay.  What is the error message about and what  may be my
problem?
I was waiting for other reports of same error here on the forum, but have
not seen them, so must be me.

73  N3WT  John.



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[Flexradio] FA-66 firewire cable

2006-09-23 Thread Trevor Smithers
I see that Roland include ferrite cores with the FA66 kit for the firewire 
cable. Any early 
adopters of the FA-66 noticed any wideband noise similar to that which occurred 
with the 
Firebox.

The pdf on the Roland site  
http://lib.roland.co.jp/manual/en/dl_06-11305/FA-66_leaf_je2.pdf
doesn't mention the type of ferrite material supplied but I had to use 
Fair-Rite type 43 cores 
to clean up the Firebox

Trevor  G0KTN

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[Flexradio] 20m Net Schedule

2006-09-23 Thread John Spangler
When and where is the Sunday 20m Flex Radio net?

Are there any other scheduled nets?

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[Flexradio] CW timing changes

2006-09-23 Thread Lee A Crocker
I have noticed some timing changes in the CW behavior
of the radio with the latest few SVN releases.  

What I am experiencing is a period between tx going to
rx,  the rx has a longer period before it becomes
active that is longer than in older versions.  It
seems unrelated to how much delay is set by the semi
breakin, though I have not tested extreme long delays.
 Also I can make the transmitter fault if I try to
transmit during during this inactive period.

For example if I am transmitting in semi-breakin, and
the transmitter falls out between 2 words and then
tries to pick up again the transmitter will either
miss a dit or it will transmit the dit late, which
messes up a the rythm of sending.  

The rest of my setup has been static and was working
perfectly prior to the last few iterations of the SVN,
 however I did redo the database and recalibrate
recently, so I don't know if its the change in my db
or change in the code.  Has anyone else noted a change
in CW behavior?  

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Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex

2006-09-23 Thread Philip Covington
It would be pretty easy to integrate this functionality into PowerSDR.
 Along with vCOM it will allow you to run CAT to any/multiple of the
virtual or hardware com ports on the system as well as do CAT between
computers over the network.  I had a checkbox to allow you to
designate which com ports only 'listened' on the CAT line and which
one had control.  With the bridge you would have to run multiple
instances to cross connect more than two com ports at a time, but this
could be extended to as many com ports that are available on the
computer where the bridge is running.

I used it with HRD controlling and MixW listening and logging at the
same time before my SDR-1000 PIO board started giving me fits.

73 de Phil N8VB


On 9/23/06, Tim Ellison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I have seen a rig run multiple devices, but all of then were Icom CI-V
> (TTL) using the CT-17 (CI-V bus) and the radio was in "CI-V transceiver"
> mode.
>
> I'd REALLY like to see Phil's TCP->Serial Bridge or something analogous
> included in the new version of CAT.  His source is available @
>
> http://www.philcovington.com/SDR/Downloads/SerialToTCPBridge.rar
>
> I have wanted to connect the SDR1K to both my logging program and MixW
> so both would track the frequencies changes.  This looks like the only
> way to do it as far as I can tell.
>
> -Tim
> ---
> Tim Ellison
> Integrated Technical Services
>
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Tracey
> Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:08 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex
>
> It's a small matter of programming.  At the moment the PowerSDR code
> only
> has support in it for 1 CAT serial port.   It would not be all that
> difficult to add support for more, just needs a bit of code.  I
> believe  Phil Covington (N8VB) had a TCP->Serial bridge going a while
> back,
> seem to remember it worked, but don't recall what became of it
>
> How do folks with a conventional radio hookup a Steppir and CAT control
> -
> most (all?) conventional radios only have a single CAT port.  I'd have
> assumed the Steppir controller had a CAT out port that gets passed on to
>
> CAT programs, but could not say for sure, have not looked into it.
>
> Regards,
>
> Bill (kd5tfd)
>
> At 07:47 AM 9/23/2006, John Hansen wrote:
> >Does this mean that CAT is then not available to be used in conjunction
> >with digital mode or logging programs?  It seems to me that there ought
> >to be a way to route CAT data to both a virtual serial port and a
> "real"
> >serial port, but I can't see how to do it.
> >
> >John W2FS
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex

2006-09-23 Thread Tim Ellison
I have seen a rig run multiple devices, but all of then were Icom CI-V
(TTL) using the CT-17 (CI-V bus) and the radio was in "CI-V transceiver"
mode.

I'd REALLY like to see Phil's TCP->Serial Bridge or something analogous
included in the new version of CAT.  His source is available @  

http://www.philcovington.com/SDR/Downloads/SerialToTCPBridge.rar

I have wanted to connect the SDR1K to both my logging program and MixW
so both would track the frequencies changes.  This looks like the only
way to do it as far as I can tell.

-Tim
---
Tim Ellison
Integrated Technical Services

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bill Tracey
Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2006 9:08 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex

It's a small matter of programming.  At the moment the PowerSDR code
only 
has support in it for 1 CAT serial port.   It would not be all that 
difficult to add support for more, just needs a bit of code.  I 
believe  Phil Covington (N8VB) had a TCP->Serial bridge going a while
back, 
seem to remember it worked, but don't recall what became of it

How do folks with a conventional radio hookup a Steppir and CAT control
- 
most (all?) conventional radios only have a single CAT port.  I'd have 
assumed the Steppir controller had a CAT out port that gets passed on to

CAT programs, but could not say for sure, have not looked into it.

Regards,

Bill (kd5tfd)

At 07:47 AM 9/23/2006, John Hansen wrote:
>Does this mean that CAT is then not available to be used in conjunction
>with digital mode or logging programs?  It seems to me that there ought
>to be a way to route CAT data to both a virtual serial port and a
"real"
>serial port, but I can't see how to do it.
>
>John W2FS



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Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex

2006-09-23 Thread Bill Tracey
It's a small matter of programming.  At the moment the PowerSDR code only 
has support in it for 1 CAT serial port.   It would not be all that 
difficult to add support for more, just needs a bit of code.  I 
believe  Phil Covington (N8VB) had a TCP->Serial bridge going a while back, 
seem to remember it worked, but don't recall what became of it

How do folks with a conventional radio hookup a Steppir and CAT control - 
most (all?) conventional radios only have a single CAT port.  I'd have 
assumed the Steppir controller had a CAT out port that gets passed on to 
CAT programs, but could not say for sure, have not looked into it.

Regards,

Bill (kd5tfd)

At 07:47 AM 9/23/2006, John Hansen wrote:
>Does this mean that CAT is then not available to be used in conjunction
>with digital mode or logging programs?  It seems to me that there ought
>to be a way to route CAT data to both a virtual serial port and a "real"
>serial port, but I can't see how to do it.
>
>John W2FS



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Re: [Flexradio] Using a Steppir with the Flex

2006-09-23 Thread John Hansen
Does this mean that CAT is then not available to be used in conjunction 
with digital mode or logging programs?  It seems to me that there ought 
to be a way to route CAT data to both a virtual serial port and a "real" 
serial port, but I can't see how to do it.

John W2FS

Tom Thompson wrote:

>Ed,
>
>I have had my SteppIR running with the SDR-1000 for some time.  I plug 
>the SteppIR cable into COM1 and set the SteppIR box for Kenwood 
>operation at 9600 baud.  I then set the SDR-1000 CAT up for TS-2000 on 
>COM1 at 9600 baud.  I set parity to none, data bits to 8 and stop bits 
>to 1.  It follows perfectly.
>
>73,   Tom   W0IVJ
>
>Ed wrote:
>  
>


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Re: [Flexradio] Pre-amp switches itself off

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
David Ackrill wrote:
> I'm using CWL and it happens within the Amateur bands and there doesn't 
> seem to be a correlation between the frequency that it happens on.  I've 
> noticed the effect in 160, 80 and 40 metres.  I am tuning using a mouse 
> wheel.
>   
I've done a bit more experimenting, and it is only happening towards the 
bottom end of 160 and 80M and always on the same frequencies when tuning 
up the band, but slightly different when tuning down the band.  It 
doesn't seem to matter if I use CWL or LSB either.

The frequencies, going up, are as follows (in MHz)

1.814
1.839
1.850
1.857
1.860
1.863 then OK up to the top of the band

3.500
3.512
3.517
3.520
3.524 Then OK

Going down as follows
3.525
3.523
3.520
3.514
3.502

1.862
1.859
1.853
1.841
1.817

Anyone any idea what might cause this strange behaviour of the pre-amp 
and does it affect anyone else?

Cheers - Dave (G0DJA)

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[Flexradio] Pre-amp switches itself off

2006-09-23 Thread David Ackrill
The preamp on my new SDR1000 seems to be behaving strangely.

As I tune up or down a band the preamp is as per the front panel 
setting.  Then, at some point as I tune, it switches itself off (there's 
a click inside the box when it happens).  The setting for the pre-amp on 
the display on the console doesn't alter, but the signals in the 
panadapter and all received signal indications drop down.

If I switch off the pre-amp, and then switch it back on again, all is OK 
for a while.  Then it turns itself off again and I have to reset it.  
Each time I turn the pre-amp on there's a click in the box and each time 
it switches itself off there is another click.

I'm using CWL and it happens within the Amateur bands and there doesn't 
seem to be a correlation between the frequency that it happens on.  I've 
noticed the effect in 160, 80 and 40 metres.  I am tuning using a mouse 
wheel.

This happens in V1.6.2 as well as the latest svn versions.  I'll keep a 
bit of a log of the frequencies and bands, to see if there is actually a 
pattern to the effect.

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Re: [Flexradio] DC/DC Converter (DC1) Replaced with Linear Supply

2006-09-23 Thread Jimmy Jones
Like I've said many times before(personal opinion).It's not a 
rig for everyone.
Take my advice now and sell.
You boat anchor needs you.

KD5NWA wrote:
> I have a SDR-1000 that I bought at Dayton and frankly I have been 
> disappointed in it's performance, I have all these signals specially 
> in the lower bands that are wondering around and changing frequency 
> on me, they are at least +20 dB above the noise floor. On my radio 
> the broad carriers never stop moving but your description sounds like 
> the problem I have, except mine seems to be worse. If I turn off the 
> radio and listen instead with my TS-930 they simply are not there at all.
>
> I have not turned on the radio in about 45 days because of these 
> problems, and also I have multitudes of large spurs all over the 
> place getting worse the higher you go in frequency. 10M is downright 
> useless, large spurs as far as the eye can see. I sent some pictures 
> to Flexradio of my wondering carriers but nothing became of it.
>
> I've been seeing comments from others about how great the radio is, 
> but frankly I have not seen it, right now my SoftRocks work better. 
> Looks like I'm going to have to do some surgery before this is over.
>
>
> At 10:06 AM 9/22/2006, you wrote:
>   
>> Hi Folks,
>>
>> I just wanted to let you know about a modification I made to my
>> radio.  DC1 is a switch mode converter that provides +/- 15 volts
>> for the instrumentation amplifiers IC6/7 on receive that interface
>> the QSD to the sound card.
>>
>> The DC/DC converter's internal oscillator free runs at ~120 kHz
>> and is very rich with odd harmonics, every 240 or so kHz, throughout
>> the HF range.
>>
>> This manifests itself as low level 'carriers' that drift around and
>> through receive frequencies.  When the SRD is first powered up they
>> move quite fast, but after the unit has warmed up the move very, very
>> slowly through your QSO.
>>
>> These signals were about S4 on my SDR1000 in the 40M band and are 
>> easily removed with the automatic notch.  But, loving to tinker like I do I
>> removed the DC1 and soldered a 7 pin header in its place. I used a
>> 1" x 2" x 2", +/- 15v linear supply wired to the header.
>>
>> How's it work? Great!  No more warbling tones from within the SDR.
>>
>> I wish I would have done more before and after testing. Now when I
>> connect the receiver to a dummy load, most of the bands are clear of
>> spurs with the noise floor at -153 dBm.  I imagine that the fundamental
>> waveform (square wave?) of the DC/DC converter was putting an awful lot
>> of total integrated power into the QSD and mixing with other signals
>> there to increase the total spurs.
>>
>> It just keeps gettin' better.
>>
>> Regards,
>> John
>> k2ox
>>
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