Re: [Flexradio] No power out on Flex-1500

[Graham Haddock]

Fred:

I doubt that you did anything wrong to hurt the radio, or that the upgrade
to 2.0.16 caused it either.
Please call/email Dudley on Monday to get an RMA.
Sounds like a failed relay in the 20/30 Meter filter.
We will turn it quickly for you.

--- Graham /KE9H

==

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 9:10 PM, Fred Spinner  wrote:

> Possible.. no matter what it has to go back.  I just thought the timing of
> the symptoms to bit a bit too coincidental.  I went from working TX (but
> with too many audio dropouts on the two machines I was able to try it on)
> with 2.0.8 to not putting output on ANY band in 2.0.16 to working on all
> bands except 20m/30m in 2.0.8 to then doing the same on 2.0.16.  Timing was
> very suspicious but anything is possible.  Maybe it took out a relay?  Maybe
> it's all coincidence  It's possible I guess..  I've been having that sort of
> luck lately...
>
> I just got back home from my mother-in-law passing away and have a week of
> work to make up at work.. also discovered that my rotor doesn't like the
> cold.  It works.. eventually..  been that sort of day/week already.
>
> I'll call flex tomorrow during the day and try to get it off to them on
> Tuesday.  Bummer...
>
> Really three and a half months waiting to get this thing working well for
> me is starting to seriously get on the nerves.  But I think with 2.0.16 Flex
> is finally at the level they should of been at when delivering these units
> in stability and usability.  Except for the dead TX band, the rig works the
> way I thought it would, finally, when I bought it.  I really wanted to make
> a few 20m PSK Q's with it today though... :O(  I suppose I could do a 40m Q
> but it's getting late...
>
> Fred W0FMS
>
>
> Nov 14, 2010 08:54:53 PM, br...@lloyd.com wrote:
>
> ===
>
> On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Fred Spinner  wrote:
>  I on my own reloaded 2.0.16 and now notice the same symptoms-- works
> except on 20m/30m.  Previous to the downgrade/upgrade I was getting no power
> out on all bands.. now just 20m/30m isn't working.  I theorize that somehow
> the TX filters weren't getting properly switched and when I tried 80m/40m,
> 6m etc.. it was transmitting through the 20m filter and damaged it (opened
> up a cap or coil in the filter).
>
> Sounds like a bad relay switching the bandpass filter. The 5W PA is not
> going to burn out a bandpass filter. It just won't be able to deliver power
> into it. That the radio produces power on all the other bands says that the
> PA is fine but that the 20m/30m bandpass filter is not being switched in.
> Like I said, sounds like a bad relay.
> Sounds like it needs a trip home.
> --
> Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
> 3191 Western Dr.
> Cameron Park, CA 95682
> br...@lloyd.com
> +1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
> +1.931.492.6776 (USA)
> (+1.931.4.WB6RQN)
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out on Flex-1500

[Fred Spinner]

Possible.. no matter what it has to go back.  I just thought the timing of the 
symptoms to bit a bit too coincidental.  I went from working TX (but with too 
many audio dropouts on the two machines I was able to try it on) with 2.0.8 to 
not putting output on ANY band in 2.0.16 to working on all bands except 20m/30m 
in 2.0.8 to then doing the same on 2.0.16.  Timing was very suspicious but 
anything is possible.  Maybe it took out a relay?  Maybe it's all coincidence  
It's possible I guess..  I've been having that sort of luck lately...

I just got back home from my mother-in-law passing away and have a week of work 
to make up at work.. also discovered that my rotor doesn't like the cold.  It 
works.. eventually..  been that sort of day/week already.

I'll call flex tomorrow during the day and try to get it off to them on 
Tuesday.  Bummer...

Really three and a half months waiting to get this thing working well for me is 
starting to seriously get on the nerves.  But I think with 2.0.16 Flex is 
finally at the level they should of been at when delivering these units in 
stability and usability.  Except for the dead TX band, the rig works the way I 
thought it would, finally, when I bought it.  I really wanted to make a few 20m 
PSK Q's with it today though... :O(  I suppose I could do a 40m Q but it's 
getting late...

Fred W0FMS


Nov 14, 2010 08:54:53 PM, br...@lloyd.com wrote:

===

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Fred Spinner  wrote:
 I on my own reloaded 2.0.16 and now notice the same symptoms-- works except on 
20m/30m.  Previous to the downgrade/upgrade I was getting no power out on all 
bands.. now just 20m/30m isn't working.  I theorize that somehow the TX filters 
weren't getting properly switched and when I tried 80m/40m, 6m etc.. it was 
transmitting through the 20m filter and damaged it (opened up a cap or coil in 
the filter).

Sounds like a bad relay switching the bandpass filter. The 5W PA is not going 
to burn out a bandpass filter. It just won't be able to deliver power into it. 
That the radio produces power on all the other bands says that the PA is fine 
but that the 20m/30m bandpass filter is not being switched in. Like I said, 
sounds like a bad relay.
Sounds like it needs a trip home.
-- 
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
br...@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.931.492.6776 (USA)
(+1.931.4.WB6RQN)


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out on Flex-1500

[Brian Lloyd]

On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 6:51 PM, Fred Spinner  wrote:


> I on my own reloaded 2.0.16 and now notice the same symptoms-- works except
> on 20m/30m.  Previous to the downgrade/upgrade I was getting no power out on
> all bands.. now just 20m/30m isn't working.  I theorize that somehow the TX
> filters weren't getting properly switched and when I tried 80m/40m, 6m etc..
> it was transmitting through the 20m filter and damaged it (opened up a cap
> or coil in the filter).
>

Sounds like a bad relay switching the bandpass filter. The 5W PA is not
going to burn out a bandpass filter. It just won't be able to deliver power
into it. That the radio produces power on all the other bands says that the
PA is fine but that the 20m/30m bandpass filter is not being switched in.
Like I said, sounds like a bad relay.

Sounds like it needs a trip home.

-- 
Brian Lloyd, WB6RQN/J79BPL
3191 Western Dr.
Cameron Park, CA 95682
br...@lloyd.com
+1.767.617.1365 (Dominica)
+1.931.492.6776 (USA)
(+1.931.4.WB6RQN)
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out on Flex-1500

[Fred Spinner]

With Dudley's help I think (and this is an IMHO) I figured out what happened 
and am posting this as a heads up.  I think my Flex-1500 is damaged.

I think my (first) install of 2.0.16 wasn't properly switching TX filter banks 
and I took out the 20m/30m filter board when attempting to TX on a different 
band.  Dudley had me revert back to 2.0.8 where I noticed full output on all 
bands except for 20m/30m where there was no output. Previously there was full 
output on 20m/30m on 2.0.8.

I on my own reloaded 2.0.16 and now notice the same symptoms-- works except on 
20m/30m.  Previous to the downgrade/upgrade I was getting no power out on all 
bands.. now just 20m/30m isn't working.  I theorize that somehow the TX filters 
weren't getting properly switched and when I tried 80m/40m, 6m etc.. it was 
transmitting through the 20m filter and damaged it (opened up a cap or coil in 
the filter).

I've basically only TXed into a dummy load with the radio so far.. I've mainly 
used it for SWL only because prior to 2.0.16 I had major dropout issues and did 
not want to use the rig on the air.  Was just about to put it on 20m PSK-31... 
and

If it wasn't for that I'd praise Flex finally since the rig works OK now.. 
except for the band I'm on 65% of the time... but it's always something, isn't 
it?   Hopefully getting it repaired will be a pleasant experience.  Never have 
had to have a piece of ham gear repaired before.. but... 

Please, check to make sure you are hearing the relays click when switching 
bands after the upgrade.

Fred W0FMS


Nov 14, 2010 05:52:26 PM, f...@spinner.org wrote:

===

Upgraded the software last night to 2.0.16.. listened a lot with it.  Except 
for the 9KHz spur my -1500 has (which I got around by changing the DDS offset 
slightly), almost all of my complaints went away with the upgrade.

Decided to try some QRP PSK-31 with it today.  There is no power out of the 
rig.  The TX "fwd pwr" meter shows that there is (in percent but I bet that's 
measured before the final) but I see no output with two different (and verified 
working with other rigs) wattmeters.
I'm not in the mood to try to hook it to my spectrum analyzer.  I'm curious 
what I am getting out.  I can hear a signal on other rigs but I'm sure I'm 
putting out milliwatts at most.

Before I send the thing back to Austin for warranty service, is there anything 
else I need to know to make this work?  Yes the RX/TX is set to "PA" and yes, 
it used to put out 5W on all bands into the same dummy load under 2.0.8.  I 
can't revert back to 2.0.8... I just cant.  The software looks like it's TXing 
the signal fine and I see the TX meter in "percentage" read correctly but I'm 
getting no power out of the PA.

The PA has taken no abuse.  Actually it's TX'ed for about a grand total of 3 
minutes since I got it in early Aug and all of that has been into a 50 ohm 
dummy load.

I really want to like this radio someday.. please help me do it.

Fred W0FMS


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out on Flex-1500

[FlexRadio Support, Dudley Hurry]

Fred,

Have you tried a database reset?  The final has been very durable,  as a
matter of fact,   I am not sure that has been an actual failure of the final
yet.. Try the reset,  if that does not work,  let me know directly.


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ
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Email: dud...@flexradio.com 
Web: www.flexradio.com 

"Tune in excitement!" ™



On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 5:52 PM, Fred Spinner  wrote:

> Upgraded the software last night to 2.0.16.. listened a lot with it.
>  Except for the 9KHz spur my -1500 has (which I got around by changing the
> DDS offset slightly), almost all of my complaints went away with the
> upgrade.
>
> Decided to try some QRP PSK-31 with it today.  There is no power out of the
> rig.  The TX "fwd pwr" meter shows that there is (in percent but I bet
> that's measured before the final) but I see no output with two different
> (and verified working with other rigs) wattmeters.
> I'm not in the mood to try to hook it to my spectrum analyzer.  I'm curious
> what I am getting out.  I can hear a signal on other rigs but I'm sure I'm
> putting out milliwatts at most.
>
> Before I send the thing back to Austin for warranty service, is there
> anything else I need to know to make this work?  Yes the RX/TX is set to
> "PA" and yes, it used to put out 5W on all bands into the same dummy load
> under 2.0.8.  I can't revert back to 2.0.8... I just cant.  The software
> looks like it's TXing the signal fine and I see the TX meter in "percentage"
> read correctly but I'm getting no power out of the PA.
>
> The PA has taken no abuse.  Actually it's TX'ed for about a grand total of
> 3 minutes since I got it in early Aug and all of that has been into a 50 ohm
> dummy load.
>
> I really want to like this radio someday.. please help me do it.
>
> Fred W0FMS
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Alan NV8A]

On 03/02/10 10:42 am, Neal Campbell wrote:


As I was writing to someone else this weekend, while the strategy that Apple
adopted of making their own hardware to go with their software means you pay
more for the package (due to lack of competition), you do not get any of
these wonderful problems as they control every piece of your system:
hardware, bios, firmware, drivers and operating system. Luckily their
quality control is amazingly good and things "just work" and they do so for
a long time. In our house, if you see a computer more than 3 years old being
used, its a Mac. We typically use the same Mac hardware for 5+ years without
even thinking of replacing it.

Apple puts their designer, production manufacturer amd software head on
video for their products so you get a "behind the scenes" look at the
thought processes on the decisions they make (this is on their consumer
site, not their development site) and its very interesting. I am typing this
on a unibody 17" macbook pro and its amazing (and not cheap!). Just the
nicest piece of non-Flex equipment I own.


Yet a recent survey of notebook computer reliability did not put Apple 
top of the list. I think it might have been 3rd or 4th. (HP was the worst.)


OTOH, our son has had good a experience with his MacBook Pro. It has 
been dropped but was fixed free -- in France -- and the battery was also 
replaced free. On the latter occasion I went with him to the Apple Store 
and was impressed with the courteousness of the service tech.


As for computer longevity I have been building my own machines for 
20 years or more. Asus motherboards for at least the last 15 years, and 
mostly Seagate drives after bad experiences with Quantum. I think that 
all the dead hard disks I have sitting around are WD. I quit using one 
particular Seagate SCSI drive after about 11 years, not because there 
was anything wrong with it but because its capacity was so low it wasn't 
worth the space it took up in the case. The computer I built just over 
12 years is still running 24/7 doing backups to a Sony DAT tape drive 
every night. The only non-notebook running Windows is the one for 
PowerSDR and the FLEX-5000A.


73

Alan NV8A

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Peter G. Viscarola]

As I was writing to someone else this weekend, while the strategy that Apple 
adopted of making their own hardware to go with their software means you pay 
more for the package (due to lack of competition), you do not get any of these 
wonderful problems as they control every piece of your system: hardware, bios, 
firmware, drivers and operating system.


Ah, yes.  Very much agreed. 

Price premium vendors with closed standards = a guaranteed experience.

For years, computer companies thrived on this model and the products produced 
were usually of VERY high standard (think of systems from DEC and Apollo in the 
early years to Sun and Silicon Graphics later).

The problem is that low prices, even at the cost of functionality and 
durability, seem to trump all in the consumer market.  Price-based competition 
is now so prevalent that it's gotten extremely difficult to identify good 
quality computer or networking equipment. Price alone is not an indicator of 
quality, and clear engineering specifications are often lacking.

Example: Ever try to find a REALLY good quality Gigabit Ethernet switch?  Good 
luck...

Peter
K1PGV


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

As I was writing to someone else this weekend, while the strategy that Apple
adopted of making their own hardware to go with their software means you pay
more for the package (due to lack of competition), you do not get any of
these wonderful problems as they control every piece of your system:
hardware, bios, firmware, drivers and operating system. Luckily their
quality control is amazingly good and things "just work" and they do so for
a long time. In our house, if you see a computer more than 3 years old being
used, its a Mac. We typically use the same Mac hardware for 5+ years without
even thinking of replacing it.

Apple puts their designer, production manufacturer amd software head on
video for their products so you get a "behind the scenes" look at the
thought processes on the decisions they make (this is on their consumer
site, not their development site) and its very interesting. I am typing this
on a unibody 17" macbook pro and its amazing (and not cheap!). Just the
nicest piece of non-Flex equipment I own.

Come on Deep Impact!!!

73
Neal Campbell
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 9:52 AM, Peter G. Viscarola  wrote:

> 
> Could latent devices installed from other motherboards really do this if
> not active? It truly could be any number of problems that the fresh install
> solved besides "driver hell" but just wondered if anyone else had this
> experience.
> 
>
> The key phrase is "if not active."  If the driver is truly not active, the
> answer is no... it cannot affect the running system.  Typical PnP-enabled
> drivers are only loaded when a device for which they claim support is
> discovered.  If there's no hardware involved, there are no interrupts.  And
> if there are no interrupts (and no timers) then there can be no DPCs.  But,
> even with no DPCs, a driver could STILL contribute to DPC latency.
>
> However, having lots of "unused" drivers hanging around in an installation
> CAN complicate matters and affect overall system performance.  Most drivers
> provide a long list of devices they support and many end their list with a
> claim that they support a wide variety of generic hardware for compatibility
> reasons. So the driver starts out listing their support for a SPECIFIC
> vendor id and device id, a specific vendor system and subsystem, and a
> specific revision, and ends the list by saying "oh, and in a pinch, I'll
> support any type of xyz device."
>
> When multiple drivers claim that they can support the same device, Windows
> determine which driver to select for a device using a complicated algorithm
> that is defined by business policy, not best technical match of driver to
> device.
>
> Many vendor-specific drivers are implemented as "filter drivers" which
> modify the function of a basic Microsoft-supplied driver.  Such drivers
> might load over an entire class of device -- ready to support a
> vendor-specific model of that device should one be plugged-in (good examples
> here range from keyboards and mice to DVD drives).
>
> There are also drivers that are implemented as hybrids: Sort of PnP, sort
> of filter, and installed and activated by default.
>
> Finally, there are often drivers for lots of "system" resources that
> really, really want to be matched properly to the motherboard in use. These
> include drivers for BIOS-related devices (Do you have a "volume up" button
> on your keyboard?  Ever wonder how it manages to (a) change the volume on
> your audio device, and (b) display a volume slider on your monitor?  It's
> partly done in the BIOS -- that's a trivial example, but an easy one to
> understand).  And there's a ton of BIOS-related stuff that can't be disabled
> without secret monkey magic known only to the mainboard vendor (for example,
> one mainboard I'm familiar with disables certain extensive BIOS extensions
> when there's no RAM placed in a specific slot on the mainboard).
>
> And we haven't even BEGUN to discuss weird things like dynamic BIOS patches
> (with stuff loaded via the registry), or other drivers  that fall into the
> category of "there's a bug but we can fix it in the driver."
>
> Getting the right set of drivers on your system for the best (or even
> correct) performance can be a major task. That why I don't even TRY to build
> my own system. I just order a machine from Dell or HP. OEMs control their
> BIOS and tend to do a reasonable job of systems integration. While any
> system you buy directly from an OEM will be plagued with lots of EXTRA goo,
> removing stuff is wy easier than trying to find all the right stuff in
> the first place.  For computers designed to run PowerSDR, Neal provides this
> system integration service which is custom tailored to our needs and
> environment.
>
>

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

I think that the situation was more of a variant of the DLL Hell type of
lack of version control. All I was doing was plugging in the drive and
loading each motherboard's cdrom driver set (in other words not going to the
maker's website and downloading the latest.) Plus many were using the same
northbridge chip with variations on graphics chip (Nvidea and ati) so I
probably had different vintages of drivers for the motherboard resources as
well as the drivers (plus never updated the bios firmware and that is very
critical to do, manufacturers ship motherboard with bios firmware so old its
a wonder some newbies can make it work with current cpus on the market.

For the people who bought systems at a big-box store, one thing you should
do is go to the computer manufacturer's website and always apply the latest
drivers from there instead of Windows Update drivers. If you feel
comfortable doing so, even check out the latest bios versions and see how
far behind you are (you can usually hit the DEL key during system startup
after the beep and enter the bios and there is usually an entry called
System Information whch can tell you what version of the bios you are
using).

Neal Campbell
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 10:15 AM, Bret Mills  wrote:

> Who knows what the old drivers will do, REMEMBER they are still in the
> Registry and they are trying to load every time the Computer boot's and
> hangs around waiting for the Hardware to come back online.
>
> To see this happen, just load a driver for a USB Device, plug the device in
> to one USB Port and it finds the hardware and loads it's Driver, unplug it
> and wait a year later Plug it in to the EXACT same USB port again and the
> Hardware pops right up enabled.
>
> Try a Different USB Port and it has to load the Driver for THAT USB port
> before it will work.
>
> You can always go into the Registry Editor and try to remove them Manually
> for each device that you no longer use BUT that is VERY DANGEROUS and
> should
> not be attempted unless your ready to reinstall Windows in case you screw
> something up.
>
> 73's
> Bret
> WX7Y
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola
> Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:52 AM
> To: Neal Campbell
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
>
> 
> Could latent devices installed from other motherboards really do this if
> not
> active? It truly could be any number of problems that the fresh install
> solved besides "driver hell" but just wondered if anyone else had this
> experience.
> 
>
> The key phrase is "if not active."  If the driver is truly not active, the
> answer is no... it cannot affect the running system.  Typical PnP-enabled
> drivers are only loaded when a device for which they claim support is
> discovered.  If there's no hardware involved, there are no interrupts.  And
> if there are no interrupts (and no timers) then there can be no DPCs.  But,
> even with no DPCs, a driver could STILL contribute to DPC latency.
>
> However, having lots of "unused" drivers hanging around in an installation
> CAN complicate matters and affect overall system performance.  Most drivers
> provide a long list of devices they support and many end their list with a
> claim that they support a wide variety of generic hardware for
> compatibility
> reasons. So the driver starts out listing their support for a SPECIFIC
> vendor id and device id, a specific vendor system and subsystem, and a
> specific revision, and ends the list by saying "oh, and in a pinch, I'll
> support any type of xyz device."
>
> When multiple drivers claim that they can support the same device, Windows
> determine which driver to select for a device using a complicated algorithm
> that is defined by business policy, not best technical match of driver to
> device.
>
> Many vendor-specific drivers are implemented as "filter drivers" which
> modify the function of a basic Microsoft-supplied driver.  Such drivers
> might load over an entire class of device -- ready to support a
> vendor-specific model of that device should one be plugged-in (good
> examples
> here range from keyboards and mice to DVD drives).
>
> There are also drivers that are implemented as hybrids: Sort of PnP, sort
> of
> filter, and installed and activated by default.
>
> Finally, there are oft

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Bret Mills]

Who knows what the old drivers will do, REMEMBER they are still in the
Registry and they are trying to load every time the Computer boot's and
hangs around waiting for the Hardware to come back online.

To see this happen, just load a driver for a USB Device, plug the device in
to one USB Port and it finds the hardware and loads it's Driver, unplug it
and wait a year later Plug it in to the EXACT same USB port again and the
Hardware pops right up enabled.

Try a Different USB Port and it has to load the Driver for THAT USB port
before it will work. 

You can always go into the Registry Editor and try to remove them Manually
for each device that you no longer use BUT that is VERY DANGEROUS and should
not be attempted unless your ready to reinstall Windows in case you screw
something up. 

73's 
Bret
WX7Y


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Peter G. Viscarola
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 7:52 AM
To: Neal Campbell
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out


Could latent devices installed from other motherboards really do this if not
active? It truly could be any number of problems that the fresh install
solved besides "driver hell" but just wondered if anyone else had this
experience.


The key phrase is "if not active."  If the driver is truly not active, the
answer is no... it cannot affect the running system.  Typical PnP-enabled
drivers are only loaded when a device for which they claim support is
discovered.  If there's no hardware involved, there are no interrupts.  And
if there are no interrupts (and no timers) then there can be no DPCs.  But,
even with no DPCs, a driver could STILL contribute to DPC latency.

However, having lots of "unused" drivers hanging around in an installation
CAN complicate matters and affect overall system performance.  Most drivers
provide a long list of devices they support and many end their list with a
claim that they support a wide variety of generic hardware for compatibility
reasons. So the driver starts out listing their support for a SPECIFIC
vendor id and device id, a specific vendor system and subsystem, and a
specific revision, and ends the list by saying "oh, and in a pinch, I'll
support any type of xyz device."

When multiple drivers claim that they can support the same device, Windows
determine which driver to select for a device using a complicated algorithm
that is defined by business policy, not best technical match of driver to
device.

Many vendor-specific drivers are implemented as "filter drivers" which
modify the function of a basic Microsoft-supplied driver.  Such drivers
might load over an entire class of device -- ready to support a
vendor-specific model of that device should one be plugged-in (good examples
here range from keyboards and mice to DVD drives).

There are also drivers that are implemented as hybrids: Sort of PnP, sort of
filter, and installed and activated by default.

Finally, there are often drivers for lots of "system" resources that really,
really want to be matched properly to the motherboard in use. These include
drivers for BIOS-related devices (Do you have a "volume up" button on your
keyboard?  Ever wonder how it manages to (a) change the volume on your audio
device, and (b) display a volume slider on your monitor?  It's partly done
in the BIOS -- that's a trivial example, but an easy one to understand).
And there's a ton of BIOS-related stuff that can't be disabled without
secret monkey magic known only to the mainboard vendor (for example, one
mainboard I'm familiar with disables certain extensive BIOS extensions when
there's no RAM placed in a specific slot on the mainboard).

And we haven't even BEGUN to discuss weird things like dynamic BIOS patches
(with stuff loaded via the registry), or other drivers  that fall into the
category of "there's a bug but we can fix it in the driver."

Getting the right set of drivers on your system for the best (or even
correct) performance can be a major task. That why I don't even TRY to build
my own system. I just order a machine from Dell or HP. OEMs control their
BIOS and tend to do a reasonable job of systems integration. While any
system you buy directly from an OEM will be plagued with lots of EXTRA goo,
removing stuff is wy easier than trying to find all the right stuff in
the first place.  For computers designed to run PowerSDR, Neal provides this
system integration service which is custom tailored to our needs and
environment.

It's all pretty complex stuff... and the more powerful the support chipsets
(like the ICH) become the more tightly intertwined with the BIOS things
become and the more critical and complicated system integration gets.

Fun!

Peter
K1PGV

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Peter G. Viscarola]

Could latent devices installed from other motherboards really do this if not 
active? It truly could be any number of problems that the fresh install solved 
besides "driver hell" but just wondered if anyone else had this experience.


The key phrase is "if not active."  If the driver is truly not active, the 
answer is no... it cannot affect the running system.  Typical PnP-enabled 
drivers are only loaded when a device for which they claim support is 
discovered.  If there's no hardware involved, there are no interrupts.  And if 
there are no interrupts (and no timers) then there can be no DPCs.  But, even 
with no DPCs, a driver could STILL contribute to DPC latency.

However, having lots of "unused" drivers hanging around in an installation CAN 
complicate matters and affect overall system performance.  Most drivers provide 
a long list of devices they support and many end their list with a claim that 
they support a wide variety of generic hardware for compatibility reasons. So 
the driver starts out listing their support for a SPECIFIC vendor id and device 
id, a specific vendor system and subsystem, and a specific revision, and ends 
the list by saying "oh, and in a pinch, I'll support any type of xyz device."

When multiple drivers claim that they can support the same device, Windows 
determine which driver to select for a device using a complicated algorithm 
that is defined by business policy, not best technical match of driver to 
device.

Many vendor-specific drivers are implemented as "filter drivers" which modify 
the function of a basic Microsoft-supplied driver.  Such drivers might load 
over an entire class of device -- ready to support a vendor-specific model of 
that device should one be plugged-in (good examples here range from keyboards 
and mice to DVD drives).

There are also drivers that are implemented as hybrids: Sort of PnP, sort of 
filter, and installed and activated by default.

Finally, there are often drivers for lots of "system" resources that really, 
really want to be matched properly to the motherboard in use. These include 
drivers for BIOS-related devices (Do you have a "volume up" button on your 
keyboard?  Ever wonder how it manages to (a) change the volume on your audio 
device, and (b) display a volume slider on your monitor?  It's partly done in 
the BIOS -- that's a trivial example, but an easy one to understand).  And 
there's a ton of BIOS-related stuff that can't be disabled without secret 
monkey magic known only to the mainboard vendor (for example, one mainboard I'm 
familiar with disables certain extensive BIOS extensions when there's no RAM 
placed in a specific slot on the mainboard).

And we haven't even BEGUN to discuss weird things like dynamic BIOS patches 
(with stuff loaded via the registry), or other drivers  that fall into the 
category of "there's a bug but we can fix it in the driver."

Getting the right set of drivers on your system for the best (or even correct) 
performance can be a major task. That why I don't even TRY to build my own 
system. I just order a machine from Dell or HP. OEMs control their BIOS and 
tend to do a reasonable job of systems integration. While any system you buy 
directly from an OEM will be plagued with lots of EXTRA goo, removing stuff is 
wy easier than trying to find all the right stuff in the first place.  For 
computers designed to run PowerSDR, Neal provides this system integration 
service which is custom tailored to our needs and environment.

It's all pretty complex stuff... and the more powerful the support chipsets 
(like the ICH) become the more tightly intertwined with the BIOS things become 
and the more critical and complicated system integration gets.

Fun!

Peter
K1PGV

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

This does raise an interesting situation that I have experienced myself. I
used to test motherboards with a copy of XP installed on a Corsair solid
state drive. Since I was normally using the same CPU, it never asked to
re-activate the license or if it did, it always suceeded.

So I probably loaded drivers from 10 different motherboards on this copy of
XP. I figured, drivers only matter when the system sees a device that needs
it, so I figured it didn't matter. Towards board number 7, however, DPCs
went to 200 and stayed there no matter what I did. 3 different boards
behaved exactly the same no matter what I did. At  the time I figured those
were just three boards that I wouldn't sell.

I needed a small sql server for testing an application I was writing, so I
took one of the boards, put a lower-powered cpu in it from another older
computer, popped a fresh copy of XP and the system seemed a lot snappier
with the slower processor than with my test SSD. I ran DPCLat on it and it
was in the 90s. So just with a "clean" copy of XP it went from 200 to 90.

Could latent devices installed from other motherboards really do this if not
active? It truly could be any number of problems that the fresh install
solved besides "driver hell" but just wondered if anyone else had this
experience.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
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On Tue, Mar 2, 2010 at 12:16 AM, Neal Campbell  wrote:

> Besides a possibly accurate synonym, the SOL driver is Serial Over Lan and
> I would bet that could be a killer if your firewire card has an interrupt
> anywhere near the ethernet controller!
>
> Who would put that kind of driver on a commercial motherboard disk? How
> strange.
>
> Intel boards are stable but the least attractive components I have ever
> seen. I am playing with their board in testing the i3 530 cpu and it has
> features in the bios that sound like another language (which I don't speak).
> I will start disabling things as I proceed with my tests.
>
>
> 73
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Peter G. Viscarola wrote:
>
>> >
>> > Intel PCI management driver
>> >
>>
>> Is that an Intel mainboard?
>>
>> The Intel Motherboards have some hellacious BIOS-based stuff that can lead
>> to incredibly strange behavior.  Unless you're using it in a big corporate
>> environment where you might want this stuff, I usually recommend against
>> Intel motherboards.
>>
>> (BTW... I can't even BEGIN to guess at what those other things are.
>>  Strange indeed.)
>>
>> Peter
>> K1PGV
>>
>>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

Besides a possibly accurate synonym, the SOL driver is Serial Over Lan and I
would bet that could be a killer if your firewire card has an interrupt
anywhere near the ethernet controller!

Who would put that kind of driver on a commercial motherboard disk? How
strange.

Intel boards are stable but the least attractive components I have ever
seen. I am playing with their board in testing the i3 530 cpu and it has
features in the bios that sound like another language (which I don't speak).
I will start disabling things as I proceed with my tests.

73
Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:12 PM, Peter G. Viscarola  wrote:

> >
> > Intel PCI management driver
> >
>
> Is that an Intel mainboard?
>
> The Intel Motherboards have some hellacious BIOS-based stuff that can lead
> to incredibly strange behavior.  Unless you're using it in a big corporate
> environment where you might want this stuff, I usually recommend against
> Intel motherboards.
>
> (BTW... I can't even BEGIN to guess at what those other things are.
>  Strange indeed.)
>
> Peter
> K1PGV
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Peter G. Viscarola]

> 
> Intel PCI management driver
>

Is that an Intel mainboard?

The Intel Motherboards have some hellacious BIOS-based stuff that can lead to 
incredibly strange behavior.  Unless you're using it in a big corporate 
environment where you might want this stuff, I usually recommend against Intel 
motherboards.

(BTW... I can't even BEGIN to guess at what those other things are.  Strange 
indeed.)

Peter
K1PGV


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Bret Mills]

Intel PCI management driver  
HEIC_AIIOS_3.0.30.1086_PV  and 
LMS_SOL_AIIOS_5.4.0.1065_PV

These are .exe files for some of the older ASUS Mother Boards with Intel Q35 
Chipsets 
and can be removed in "Uninstall Program"

73's
Bret
WX7Y


On Mon, 1 Mar 2010 10:51:20 -0500, Neal Campbell wrote
> What were the drivers you were disabling?
> 
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
> 
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
> 
> On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tim Ellison  wrote:
> 
> > What chipset is your motherboard using?  NVIDIA by chance?
> >
> >
> >
> > -Tim
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:
> > flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bret Mills
> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:57 AM
> > To: 'Lee - AA5J'; 'Neal Campbell'
> > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
> >
> > I just had this happen this weekend and what I was doing was reinstalling
> > OS software drivers AFTER a hard drive dual boot (XP and WIN7) Installation
> > on a new hard drive and what I ran into was on my mother board a couple of
> > PCI Hardware management drivers.
> > These two Intel drivers would cause PowerSDR (SVN 3560) to loose ALL TX
> > output power until I did a reset of my Data base then once I rebooted the
> > computer it would again loose TX Power until I did another database reset.
> > I pulled out the two Intel PCI management driver files and shazaam all
> > worked great again.
> > This happened on both WIN7 (every time) and on WIN XP every once in a
> > while.
> >
> > These were the latest Drivers I found to downloaded from the Motherboard
> > manufacture and INTEL WEB Site.
> > I have noticed no problems with out these PCI Management Drivers in the
> > things I'm doing.
> > 73's and hope this helps.
> >
> > Bret Mills
> > WX7Y
> >
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> > [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lee - AA5J
> > Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:04 AM
> > To: Neal Campbell
> > Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> > Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
> >
> > Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and sounds
> > the same whether there is power or no power (well except for the guages,
> > where both PSDR and the external meter show zero when there is
> > no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the radio into
> > transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the ATU.  When the
> > problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several seconds with no power
> > out and then starts tuning, but the no output power detected message appears
> > and tuning fails.
> > Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
> > Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
> > Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.
> >
> >
> > Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
> > On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
> > > Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the
> > > Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?
> > >
> > > Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground
> > > when you click MOX?
> > >
> > >
> > > Neal Campbell
> > > Abroham Neal Software
> > > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
> > > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
> > >
> > > Amateur Radio: K3NC
> > > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> > > DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
> > > <mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com> Abroham Neal forums:
> > > http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
> > > <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  > > <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
> > >
> > > Lee,
> > >
> > > You need to give some details as to what you are runnin

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

What were the drivers you were disabling?

Neal Campbell
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On Mon, Mar 1, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Tim Ellison  wrote:

> What chipset is your motherboard using?  NVIDIA by chance?
>
>
>
> -Tim
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:
> flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bret Mills
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:57 AM
> To: 'Lee - AA5J'; 'Neal Campbell'
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
>
> I just had this happen this weekend and what I was doing was reinstalling
> OS software drivers AFTER a hard drive dual boot (XP and WIN7) Installation
> on a new hard drive and what I ran into was on my mother board a couple of
> PCI Hardware management drivers.
> These two Intel drivers would cause PowerSDR (SVN 3560) to loose ALL TX
> output power until I did a reset of my Data base then once I rebooted the
> computer it would again loose TX Power until I did another database reset.
> I pulled out the two Intel PCI management driver files and shazaam all
> worked great again.
> This happened on both WIN7 (every time) and on WIN XP every once in a
> while.
>
> These were the latest Drivers I found to downloaded from the Motherboard
> manufacture and INTEL WEB Site.
> I have noticed no problems with out these PCI Management Drivers in the
> things I'm doing.
> 73's and hope this helps.
>
> Bret Mills
> WX7Y
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lee - AA5J
> Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:04 AM
> To: Neal Campbell
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
>
> Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and sounds
> the same whether there is power or no power (well except for the guages,
> where both PSDR and the external meter show zero when there is
> no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the radio into
> transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the ATU.  When the
> problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several seconds with no power
> out and then starts tuning, but the no output power detected message appears
> and tuning fails.
> Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
> Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
> Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.
>
>
> Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
> On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
> > Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the
> > Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?
> >
> > Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground
> > when you click MOX?
> >
> >
> > Neal Campbell
> > Abroham Neal Software
> > www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
> > (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
> >
> > Amateur Radio: K3NC
> > Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> > DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
> > <mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com> Abroham Neal forums:
> > http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
> > <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  > <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
> >
> > Lee,
> >
> > You need to give some details as to what you are running
> > besides just a Flex 5000.
> > OS?  SP?
> >
> > MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3
> >
> > What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
> >
> > DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE
> > EMAIL)
> >
> > PowerSDR version
> >
> > 1.18.3
> >
> > Firmware version
> >
> > 3.4.2.6300
> >
> > FireWire version
> >
> > DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT
> >
> > AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
> >
> > NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL
> >
> > Any other details that you would like to share.
> > I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DO

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Tim Ellison]

What chipset is your motherboard using?  NVIDIA by chance? 



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Bret Mills
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 9:57 AM
To: 'Lee - AA5J'; 'Neal Campbell'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

I just had this happen this weekend and what I was doing was reinstalling OS 
software drivers AFTER a hard drive dual boot (XP and WIN7) Installation on a 
new hard drive and what I ran into was on my mother board a couple of PCI 
Hardware management drivers.
These two Intel drivers would cause PowerSDR (SVN 3560) to loose ALL TX output 
power until I did a reset of my Data base then once I rebooted the computer it 
would again loose TX Power until I did another database reset. 
I pulled out the two Intel PCI management driver files and shazaam all worked 
great again. 
This happened on both WIN7 (every time) and on WIN XP every once in a while.

These were the latest Drivers I found to downloaded from the Motherboard 
manufacture and INTEL WEB Site.
I have noticed no problems with out these PCI Management Drivers in the things 
I'm doing.
73's and hope this helps.

Bret Mills
WX7Y



-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lee - AA5J
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:04 AM
To: Neal Campbell
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and sounds the 
same whether there is power or no power (well except for the guages, where both 
PSDR and the external meter show zero when there is 
no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the radio into 
transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the ATU.  When the 
problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several seconds with no power out 
and then starts tuning, but the no output power detected message appears and 
tuning fails.
Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.


Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
> Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the 
> Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?
>
> Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground 
> when you click MOX?
>
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com 
> <mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com> Abroham Neal forums:
> http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
> <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> You need to give some details as to what you are running
> besides just a Flex 5000.
> OS?  SP?
>
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3
>
> What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
>
> DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE
> EMAIL)
>
> PowerSDR version
>
> 1.18.3
>
> Firmware version
>
> 3.4.2.6300
>
> FireWire version
>
> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT
>
> AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
>
> NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL
>
> Any other details that you would like to share.
> I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING
> OTHER THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC
> ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY
> TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT
> POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL
> NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A
> TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.
>
>
> 73, LEE AA5J
>
> 73,
> Dudley
>
> WA5QPZ
>
>
>
> Lee - AA5J wrote:
>
> I did that.  I still have intermittant power out,
> two-three, sometimes more after keying out before any
> power shows up on the output.  Same problem I sent it back
> to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I got
> it back "could not duplicate" and th

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Bret Mills]

I just had this happen this weekend and what I was doing was reinstalling OS
software drivers AFTER a hard drive dual boot (XP and WIN7) Installation on
a new hard drive and what I ran into was on my mother board a couple of PCI
Hardware management drivers.
These two Intel drivers would cause PowerSDR (SVN 3560) to loose ALL TX
output power until I did a reset of my Data base then once I rebooted the
computer it would again loose TX Power until I did another database reset. 
I pulled out the two Intel PCI management driver files and shazaam all
worked great again. 
This happened on both WIN7 (every time) and on WIN XP every once in a while.

These were the latest Drivers I found to downloaded from the Motherboard
manufacture and INTEL WEB Site.
I have noticed no problems with out these PCI Management Drivers in the
things I'm doing.
73's and hope this helps.

Bret Mills
WX7Y



-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Lee - AA5J
Sent: Monday, March 01, 2010 7:04 AM
To: Neal Campbell
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and sounds
the same whether there is power or no power (well except for the guages,
where both PSDR and the external meter show zero when there is 
no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the radio into 
transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the ATU.  When the
problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several seconds with no power
out and then starts tuning, but the no output power detected message appears
and tuning fails.
Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.


Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
> Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the 
> Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?
>
> Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground 
> when you click MOX?
>
>
> Neal Campbell
> Abroham Neal Software
> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>
> Amateur Radio: K3NC
> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
> DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com 
> <mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com> Abroham Neal forums: 
> http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
> <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:
>
>
> On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
>
> Lee,
>
> You need to give some details as to what you are running
> besides just a Flex 5000.
> OS?  SP?
>
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3
>
> What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
>
> DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE 
> EMAIL)
>
> PowerSDR version
>
> 1.18.3
>
> Firmware version
>
> 3.4.2.6300
>
> FireWire version
>
> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT
>
> AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
>
> NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL
>
> Any other details that you would like to share.
> I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING
> OTHER THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC
> ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY
> TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT
> POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL
> NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A
> TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.
>
>
> 73, LEE AA5J
>
> 73,
> Dudley
>
> WA5QPZ
>
>
>
> Lee - AA5J wrote:
>
> I did that.  I still have intermittant power out,
> two-three, sometimes more after keying out before any
> power shows up on the output.  Same problem I sent it back
> to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I got
> it back "could not duplicate" and then started the same
> thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, but
> it did not solve the problem.  I notice that several
> others have the same problem as I do.  I ran for several
> days not using the ATU, but problem persisted.  Tried
> moving the Drive slider, but problem persisted. 

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Dudley Hurry]

Lee,

When you get a chance in front of the radio,  give me a call,  we can 
run through a couple of tests. 


73,
Dudley
Flex Radio Support
WA5QPZ

(512) 535-4713 ,  extension 2.

Lee - AA5J wrote:
Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and 
sounds the same whether there is power or no power (well except for 
the guages, where both PSDR and the external meter show zero when 
there is no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the 
radio into transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the 
ATU.  When the problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several 
seconds with no power out and then starts tuning, but the no output 
power detected message appears and tuning fails.

Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.


Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the 
Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?


Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to 
ground when you click MOX?



Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com 
<mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com>
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ 
<http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>






On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:



On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running
besides just a Flex 5000.
OS?  SP?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3

What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand

DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)

PowerSDR version

1.18.3

Firmware version

3.4.2.6300

FireWire version

DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT

AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?

NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL

Any other details that you would like to share.
I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING
OTHER THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC
ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY
TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT
POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL
NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A
TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.


73, LEE AA5J

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Lee - AA5J wrote:

I did that.  I still have intermittant power out,
two-three, sometimes more after keying out before any
power shows up on the output.  Same problem I sent it
back to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I
got it back "could not duplicate" and then started the
same thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5,
but it did not solve the problem.  I notice that several
others have the same problem as I do.  I ran for several
days not using the ATU, but problem persisted.  Tried
moving the Drive slider, but problem persisted.  deleted
nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.
 Defragged hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't
get it.  It is very frustrating and it needs to be either
explained or fixed.  I am having to use this FT-857D and
wish I could use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz it ain;t
big enough or heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I
don't need just a receiver. I need the transmitter to
work also.  Maybe I need Neal to build me a brand new
computer.  Who knows.???

73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz>
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz>] On Behalf
Of Neal Campbell
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
        <mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uni

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Lee - AA5J]

Yes the radio appears to go into transmit mode. Everything looks and 
sounds the same whether there is power or no power (well except for the 
guages, where both PSDR and the external meter show zero when there is 
no power)Of course, clicking FULL TUNE appears to put the radio into 
transmit, but when no power out, no relay clicks from the ATU.  When the 
problem is occurring, clicking ATU runs for several seconds with no 
power out and then starts tuning, but the no output power detected 
message appears and tuning fails.

Setup-General-hardware config-Receive only is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-Disable PTT is NOT checked.
Setup-General-Options-All Mode Mike PTT IS CHECKED.


Symptoms are the same whether I click on MOX or key the external switch.
On 2/19/2010 6:56 PM, Neal Campbell wrote:
Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the 
Defeat PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?


Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground 
when you click MOX?



Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com <http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com>
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com 
<mailto:ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com>
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/ 
<http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/>






On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J <mailto:a...@centurytel.net>> wrote:



On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running
besides just a Flex 5000.
OS?  SP?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3

What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand

DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)

PowerSDR version

1.18.3

Firmware version

3.4.2.6300

FireWire version

DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT

AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?

NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL

Any other details that you would like to share.
I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING
OTHER THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC
ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY
TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT
POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL
NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A
TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.


73, LEE AA5J

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Lee - AA5J wrote:

I did that.  I still have intermittant power out,
two-three, sometimes more after keying out before any
power shows up on the output.  Same problem I sent it back
to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I got
it back "could not duplicate" and then started the same
thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, but
it did not solve the problem.  I notice that several
others have the same problem as I do.  I ran for several
days not using the ATU, but problem persisted.  Tried
moving the Drive slider, but problem persisted.  deleted
nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.  Defragged
hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.  It is
very frustrating and it needs to be either explained or
fixed.  I am having to use this FT-857D and wish I could
use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz it ain;t big enough or
heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I don't need just
a receiver. I need the transmitter to work also.  Maybe I
need Neal to build me a brand new computer.  Who knows.???

73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz>
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz
<mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz>] On Behalf
Of Neal Campbell
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
        <mailto:flexradio@flex-radio.biz>
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick
it up. I think that
will fix it.
73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Soft

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

Does the radio appear to go into transmit mode? Could you have the Defeat
PTT checkbox clicked in the General tab of Setup?

Do you hear relays click, etc,? Does PTT jack on the back go to ground when
you click MOX?


Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/





On Fri, Feb 19, 2010 at 7:46 PM, Lee - AA5J  wrote:

>
> On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:
>
>> Lee,
>>
>> You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just a
>> Flex 5000.
>> OS?  SP?
>>
> MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3
>
>  What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
>>
> DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)
>
>> PowerSDR version
>>
> 1.18.3
>
>> Firmware version
>>
> 3.4.2.6300
>
>> FireWire version
>>
> DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT
>
>  AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
>>
> NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL
>
>> Any other details that you would like to share.
>> I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING OTHER THAN
>> SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC ONE AT A TIME TO PRINT
>> SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF THE TIME, NO RF
>> OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.
>>  STILL NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS UNUSABLE AS A TRANSCEIVER,
>>  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.
>>
>
> 73, LEE AA5J
>
>  73,
>> Dudley
>>
>> WA5QPZ
>>
>>
>>
>> Lee - AA5J wrote:
>>
>>> I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, sometimes
>>> more after keying out before any power shows up on the output.  Same problem
>>> I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks after I got it
>>> back "could not duplicate" and then started the same thing again.  I jumped
>>> at the chance to load 1.18.5, but it did not solve the problem.  I notice
>>> that several others have the same problem as I do.  I ran for several days
>>> not using the ATU, but problem persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider,
>>> but problem persisted.  deleted nearly all running apps, but problem
>>> persisted.  Defragged hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.
>>>  It is very frustrating and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am
>>> having to use this FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz
>>> it ain;t big enough or heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I don't need
>>> just a receiver. I need the transmitter to work also.  Maybe I need Neal to
>>> build me a brand new computer.  Who knows.???
>>>
>>> 73,
>>> Lee, AA5J
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:
>>>
>>>> You should install 1.18.5
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Tim
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -Original Message-
>>>> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz [mailto:
>>>> flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
>>>> Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
>>>> To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
>>>> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
>>>> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out
>>>>
>>>> Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think
>>>> that
>>>> will fix it.
>>>> 73
>>>>
>>>> Neal Campbell
>>>> Abroham Neal Software
>>>> www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
>>>> (540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER
>>>>
>>>> Amateur Radio: K3NC
>>>> Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
>>>> DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
>>>> Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   Database reset had no effect.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Mark Lunday
>>>>>
>>>>> WD4ELG
>>>>>
>>>>> Greensboro, NC - FM06be
>>>>>
>>>>> wd4...@a

Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Lee - AA5J]

On 2/15/2010 10:28 PM, Dudley Hurry wrote:

Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just 
a Flex 5000.

OS?  SP?

MICROSOFT WINDOWS XP HOME SP3

What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand

DELL DUAL CORE 2.8GHZ (SEE BELARC AND SIW REPORTS, IN SEPARATE EMAIL)

PowerSDR version

1.18.3

Firmware version

3.4.2.6300

FireWire version

DON'T KNOW HOW TO DETERMINE THAT

AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?

NO AMP.  USB LSB DIGI CW CWL

Any other details that you would like to share.
I USED ENDITALL TO SHUT DOWN DAMN NEAR EVERYTHING. ONLY THING OTHER 
THAN SYSTEM RUNNING WAS POWERSDR.  USED SIW AND BELARC ONE AT A TIME 
TO PRINT SYSTEM INFORMATION REPORTS.  SIMPLY TRIED TUNING.  MOST OF 
THE TIME, NO RF OUT.  CPU% WITHOUT POWERSDR RUNNING ~1.6%, WITH 
POWERSDR RUNNING 15-17%.  STILL NO RF OUT A LOT OF THE TIME.  RADIO IS 
UNUSABLE AS A TRANSCEIVER,  WORKS GREAT AS A RECEIVER.


73, LEE AA5J

73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Lee - AA5J wrote:
I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, 
sometimes more after keying out before any power shows up on the 
output.  Same problem I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked 
for 3-4 weeks after I got it back "could not duplicate" and then 
started the same thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, 
but it did not solve the problem.  I notice that several others have 
the same problem as I do.  I ran for several days not using the ATU, 
but problem persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider, but problem 
persisted.  deleted nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.  
Defragged hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.  It is 
very frustrating and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am 
having to use this FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny 
Flex-5000A, cuz it ain;t big enough or heavy enough to serve as a 
boat-anchor.  I don't need just a receiver. I need the transmitter to 
work also.  Maybe I need Neal to build me a brand new computer.  Who 
knows.???


73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell

Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I 
think that

will fix it.
73

Neal Campbell
Abroham Neal Software
www.abrohamnealsoftware.com
(540) 645 5394 NEW PHONE NUMBER

Amateur Radio: K3NC
Blog: http://www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/blog/
DXBase bug reports: email to ca...@dxbase.fogbugz.com
Abroham Neal forums: http:/www.abrohamnealsoftware.com/community/





On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:


  Database reset had no effect.





Mark Lunday

WD4ELG

Greensboro, NC - FM06be

wd4...@arrl.net

http://wd4elg.net

http://wd4elg.blogspot.com<http://wd4elg.net>




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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Ian Wade G3NRW]

From: "Ray, K9DUR" 
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010   Time: 09:05:47


If you (or others) think that this type of file would be useful, I would
gladly add a feature to SDRDataTransfer to generate a text file with the
contents of the database in a more human-readable format.



I wasn't just thinking of the PowerSDR database. To provide a more 
complete picture you would also need to include some MSINFO info, like 
CPU, memory etc.


I realize though that this will increase the length of the .txt file 
from 100 kB to about 101 kB..


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

I wanted PSDR to have a hook in its open routine where it could call out to
an eternal bat file, for instance, so we could initiate other stuff (like
DDUTIL) or programs that could monifor the health or debug the computer
condx and generate a report when they see certain condx. Of course I could
have done this and submitted it to Eric myself but I am kinda lazy!

73
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 10:49 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:

> Neal,
>
> You wrote, "It would also be nice if we could upload the output from a
> system diagnostic program like SIW, HWINFO32, MSINFO32, etc so we can see
> the hardware side of the Other Part of the Radio."
>
> Actually, it is not too difficult to gather that info via Visual Studio
> .NET.  I think I may do some checking & see what I can put together.
>
> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> http://k9dur.info
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Mark Whatley]

I'm not sure what mode the author of the start of this thread was using but
I had a similar experience once and here is what caused it. I had been
operating some digital mode stuff one night. I shut the radio down and the
next day I found that I had no RF out when trying my favorite digital mode.
I reset the database and that fixed the problem. But it still bugged me that
something had happened during the night to screw up the database. So I went
back and looked at the issue again and found out that the problem was self
inflicted and had nothing to do with a bad database. The night before I had
messed with the transmit bandwidth and left it set to some narrow value.
When I tried it the next day it just so happened that the tones the digital
program generated were outside the transmit passband. Therefore no RF
output. A rookie mistake for sure. 

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Ray, K9DUR]

Neal,

You wrote, "It would also be nice if we could upload the output from a
system diagnostic program like SIW, HWINFO32, MSINFO32, etc so we can see
the hardware side of the Other Part of the Radio."

Actually, it is not too difficult to gather that info via Visual Studio
.NET.  I think I may do some checking & see what I can put together.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Lee Mushel]

Well, Neil, I won't mention 18.4 or 5 but I do talk to my ham radio buddies 
and from time to time and they do make nasty comments when I happen to 
mention that, for example, I had to click "start" twice.  And they don't 
hesitate to make some remark to the effect that the knob and button radios 
don't seem to have that problem.  But then I remind them who it is they come 
to when they want to know something about general band congestion or who it 
is who can quite consistently talk accross the country whenever he feels 
like it, completely oblivious to QRM and N  and, most importantly, who it is 
who feels blessed at having this marvelous Flex resource at his command? 
But the nail in the coffin of their comments comes when I point out that I 
constantly warn them that the computer is the radio and the radio is the 
computer and challenge them to open their rigs, remove half of the circuit 
boards and still have something more than an unenhanced crystal set.   After 
all, we expect our SDRs to work with just about any computer we find at the 
recycling center that has the correct sized cable hole!


73

Lee
- Original Message - 
From: "Neal Campbell" 

To: "Ray, K9DUR" 
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out


It would also be nice if we could upload the output from a system 
diagnostic
program like SIW, HWINFO32, MSINFO32, etc so we can see the hardware side 
of

the Other Part of the Radio.

73


Neal Campbell
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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:


Tim,

Gee, back in the DOS days, we were limited to 80 characters per line.  We
could then insert a CRLF every 80th character to make it fit within the
page
width & we would only have about 2000 lines of texthi..hi.  Actually,
the stuff that makes the file so big are all of the XML tags, probably
about
50%.

Seriously, while writing my previous reply, I saw that a support question
for SDRDataTransfer had entered my inbox, so I rushed it a bit.  Let me
continue

I ended with, "That is a lot of text to include in an e-mail."  I was
thinking of a post to the reflector where attached files are not allowed.
Of course the file could be attached to a private (non-reflector) e-mail
for
analysis purposes.

If you (or others) think that this type of file would be useful, I would
gladly add a feature to SDRDataTransfer to generate a text file with the
contents of the database in a more human-readable format.

73, Ray, K9DUR
http://k9dur.info





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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Dudley Hurry]

Ian,

I think this is already thought of in Deep Impact,  but I don't see it 
happening in PowerSDR.I wanted some additional info included too in 
a separate file that could be emailed that would hold some other 
additional system/PSDR info.. 

Keep those suggestions coming,   that is what makes this whole SDR 
project so interesting..



73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Ian Wade G3NRW wrote:

From: Dudley Hurry 
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010   Time: 22:28:24


Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just 
a Flex 5000.

OS?  SP?
What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
PowerSDR version
Firmware version
FireWire version
AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
Any other details that you would like to share.

73,
Dudley


Dudley,

It would be very helpful if PowerSDR could output all the 
configuration information into a concise .txt file on demand. People 
could include the file when asking questions, and there would then be 
no doubt what the actual configuration really is.




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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

It would also be nice if we could upload the output from a system diagnostic
program like SIW, HWINFO32, MSINFO32, etc so we can see the hardware side of
the Other Part of the Radio.

73


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On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 9:05 AM, Ray, K9DUR  wrote:

> Tim,
>
> Gee, back in the DOS days, we were limited to 80 characters per line.  We
> could then insert a CRLF every 80th character to make it fit within the
> page
> width & we would only have about 2000 lines of texthi..hi.  Actually,
> the stuff that makes the file so big are all of the XML tags, probably
> about
> 50%.
>
> Seriously, while writing my previous reply, I saw that a support question
> for SDRDataTransfer had entered my inbox, so I rushed it a bit.  Let me
> continue
>
> I ended with, "That is a lot of text to include in an e-mail."  I was
> thinking of a post to the reflector where attached files are not allowed.
> Of course the file could be attached to a private (non-reflector) e-mail
> for
> analysis purposes.
>
> If you (or others) think that this type of file would be useful, I would
> gladly add a feature to SDRDataTransfer to generate a text file with the
> contents of the database in a more human-readable format.
>
> 73, Ray, K9DUR
> http://k9dur.info
>
>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Ray, K9DUR]

Tim,

Gee, back in the DOS days, we were limited to 80 characters per line.  We
could then insert a CRLF every 80th character to make it fit within the page
width & we would only have about 2000 lines of texthi..hi.  Actually,
the stuff that makes the file so big are all of the XML tags, probably about
50%.

Seriously, while writing my previous reply, I saw that a support question
for SDRDataTransfer had entered my inbox, so I rushed it a bit.  Let me
continue

I ended with, "That is a lot of text to include in an e-mail."  I was
thinking of a post to the reflector where attached files are not allowed.
Of course the file could be attached to a private (non-reflector) e-mail for
analysis purposes.  

If you (or others) think that this type of file would be useful, I would
gladly add a feature to SDRDataTransfer to generate a text file with the
contents of the database in a more human-readable format.

73, Ray, K9DUR
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Tim Ellison]

Just remove all the white spaces, CRs and LFs :-)


-Tim


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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ray, K9DUR
Sent: Tuesday, February 16, 2010 8:31 AM
To: 'Ian Wade G3NRW'; flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Ian,

Essentially, what you are asking for is a copy of the database.xml file
reformatted into more readable text.  That is something like "Parameter =
Value" without the XML tags.  This would be easy to do, in fact, I could add
it as a feature of my SDRDataTransfer program.  However, the "concise" part
would be impossible to achieve.  The database.xml file is about 185kb n
size.  Reformatting it would reduce that somewhat, but probably to no less
than 100kb.  That is a lot of text to include in an e-mail.

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Ray, K9DUR]

Ian,

Essentially, what you are asking for is a copy of the database.xml file
reformatted into more readable text.  That is something like "Parameter =
Value" without the XML tags.  This would be easy to do, in fact, I could add
it as a feature of my SDRDataTransfer program.  However, the "concise" part
would be impossible to achieve.  The database.xml file is about 185kb n
size.  Reformatting it would reduce that somewhat, but probably to no less
than 100kb.  That is a lot of text to include in an e-mail.

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Ian Wade G3NRW]

From: Dudley Hurry 
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010   Time: 22:28:24


Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just a 
Flex 5000.

OS?  SP?
What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) Motherboard or brand
PowerSDR version
Firmware version
FireWire version
AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp?
Any other details that you would like to share.

73,
Dudley


Dudley,

It would be very helpful if PowerSDR could output all the configuration 
information into a concise .txt file on demand. People could include the 
file when asking questions, and there would then be no doubt what the 
actual configuration really is.


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Dudley Hurry]

Lee,

You need to give some details as to what you are running besides just a 
Flex 5000. 


OS?  SP?
What kind of computer,  (dual core, AMD?) 
Motherboard or brand

PowerSDR version
Firmware version
FireWire version
AND what mode are you trying and are you using an amp? 

Any other details that you would like to share. 



73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



Lee - AA5J wrote:
I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, sometimes 
more after keying out before any power shows up on the output.  Same 
problem I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks 
after I got it back "could not duplicate" and then started the same 
thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, but it did not 
solve the problem.  I notice that several others have the same problem 
as I do.  I ran for several days not using the ATU, but problem 
persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider, but problem persisted.  
deleted nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.  Defragged 
hard drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.  It is very 
frustrating and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am having 
to use this FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz 
it ain;t big enough or heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I 
don't need just a receiver. I need the transmitter to work also.  
Maybe I need Neal to build me a brand new computer.  Who knows.???


73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think 
that

will fix it.
73

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:

  

  Database reset had no effect.





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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Lee - AA5J]

I did that.  I still have intermittant power out, two-three, sometimes 
more after keying out before any power shows up on the output.  Same 
problem I sent it back to Flex because of.  It worked for 3-4 weeks 
after I got it back "could not duplicate" and then started the same 
thing again.  I jumped at the chance to load 1.18.5, but it did not 
solve the problem.  I notice that several others have the same problem 
as I do.  I ran for several days not using the ATU, but problem 
persisted.  Tried moving the Drive slider, but problem persisted.  
deleted nearly all running apps, but problem persisted.  Defragged hard 
drive, but problem persisted.  I don't get it.  It is very frustrating 
and it needs to be either explained or fixed.  I am having to use this 
FT-857D and wish I could use my new shiny Flex-5000A, cuz it ain;t big 
enough or heavy enough to serve as a boat-anchor.  I don't need just a 
receiver. I need the transmitter to work also.  Maybe I need Neal to 
build me a brand new computer.  Who knows.???


73,
Lee, AA5J


On 2/12/2010 10:38 PM, Tim Ellison wrote:

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think that
will fix it.
73

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:

   

  Database reset had no effect.





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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Tim Ellison]

I know I have a PDP-11 around here somewhere under all this junk :-)


-Tim


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Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:46 PM
To: Tim Ellison; 'Neal Campbell'
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: RE: [Flexradio] No power out

Reboot of the Vista machine solved the problem.  Grant me serenity and
patience to deal with these substandard PC clones.

*SIGH*  The Flex Radios would be FLYING off the shelves if we could get some
decent computers that consistently worked well. 


Mark Lunday
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Mark Lunday, WD4ELG]

Reboot of the Vista machine solved the problem.  Grant me serenity and
patience to deal with these substandard PC clones.

*SIGH*  The Flex Radios would be FLYING off the shelves if we could get some
decent computers that consistently worked well. 


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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Tim Ellison]

You should install 1.18.5


-Tim


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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Neal Campbell
Sent: Friday, February 12, 2010 11:36 PM
To: Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think that
will fix it.
73

Neal Campbell
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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:

>  Database reset had no effect.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Lunday
>
> WD4ELG
>
> Greensboro, NC - FM06be
>
> wd4...@arrl.net
>
> http://wd4elg.net
>
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com <http://wd4elg.net>
>
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

Uninstall 1.8.3, reboot, reinstall 1.8.3 and then kick it up. I think that
will fix it.
73

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:35 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:

>  Database reset had no effect.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Lunday
>
> WD4ELG
>
> Greensboro, NC - FM06be
>
> wd4...@arrl.net
>
> http://wd4elg.net
>
> http://wd4elg.blogspot.com 
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Mark Lunday, WD4ELG]

Database reset had no effect.

 

 

Mark Lunday

WD4ELG

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Re: [Flexradio] No power out

[Neal Campbell]

Delete/reset your database and see if it clears your problem.
73

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On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 11:13 PM, Mark Lunday, WD4ELG
wrote:

> SDR 1.18.3, Vista, latest drivers and firmware.  Flex 3000.
>
>
>
> Radio was working fine, then tonight I was getting "Failed to load
> resources
> at setup"  every 5 min.  Saw this in the past, it is a .NET error, but no
> idea where it comes from.  Anyway, I rebooted the SDR and now I get FWD PWR
> = 0.
>
>
>
> I verified that the RECEIVE ONLY box is NOT checked.
>
>
>
> I verified that the antenna is fine.
>
>
>
> I tried sending CW and using the TUN button.
>
>
>
> No luck.
>
>
>
>
>
> I seem to remember this happening last year when I first got the rig, it
> was
> a setting somewhere in the SETUP section or some such thing.
>
>
>
> I did a search of KC and forums and google and did not get any results
> which
> helped.  Searches tried:
>
>
>
> flex radio no output
>
> flex radio no power
>
>
>
>
>
> Any suggestions appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
> Mark Lunday
>
> WD4ELG
>
> Greensboro, NC - FM06be
>
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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Dudley Hurry]

Carl,

The bridge in the 5K is calibrated with the ATU physically out of the 
circuit.. There is some effect of the ATU physically connected at 6.   
Make sure that you dummy load is good (good 50 ohm load )  at six 
meters..   Some watt meters and antennas loads will not indicate 
reliably on 6 meters. 


73,
Dudley

WA5QPZ



N4PY2 wrote:

My Flex 5000 reads 75 watts on 6 meters.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


- Original Message - From: 
To: ; "Ed Stallman" ; "Tim 
Ellison" 

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts


What should be the power out on 6m? I have always got about 36 watts 
out max on 6 and another friend with a 3000 also get about the same.


Reggie k6xr







 Tim Ellison  wrote:
You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at 
FlexRadio support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the 
problem with 6m.




-Tim

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From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands 
went to 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, 
all calibrated fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would 
stop and shut down.


Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating 
need's to be done using the official release. Today I installed 
Drivers,Firmware and PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing 
the power calibrate, all HF bands did fine, This time when it got to 
6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... It just sat there and did nothing, 
I could see a wave form in the filter bandwidth and the Mox tab was 
highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes before clicking X and stop 
on PSDR


I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 
bit. their was no change with either,


So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?

Yes I was in 96k and 1024

Yes I used a dummy load on port one

yes it was a new data base

Radio Flex 5000a

Thanks for any help , Ed


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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Ray J]

Seriously?

Doesn't Flex sells these things as 160-6 meter100 watt key down radios.?



N4PY2 wrote:

My Flex 5000 reads 75 watts on 6 meters.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


- Original Message - From: 
To: ; "Ed Stallman" ; "Tim 
Ellison" 

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts


What should be the power out on 6m? I have always got about 36 watts 
out max on 6 and another friend with a 3000 also get about the same.


Reggie k6xr







 Tim Ellison  wrote:
You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at 
FlexRadio support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the 
problem with 6m.




-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands 
went to 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, 
all calibrated fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would 
stop and shut down.


Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating 
need's to be done using the official release. Today I installed 
Drivers,Firmware and PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing 
the power calibrate, all HF bands did fine, This time when it got to 
6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... It just sat there and did nothing, 
I could see a wave form in the filter bandwidth and the Mox tab was 
highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes before clicking X and stop 
on PSDR


I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 
bit. their was no change with either,


So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?

Yes I was in 96k and 1024

Yes I used a dummy load on port one

yes it was a new data base

Radio Flex 5000a

Thanks for any help , Ed


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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[N4PY2]

My Flex 5000 reads 75 watts on 6 meters.

Carl Moreschi N4PY
121 Little Bell Drive
Hays, NC 28635
www.n4py.com


- Original Message - 
From: 
To: ; "Ed Stallman" ; "Tim 
Ellison" 

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts


What should be the power out on 6m? I have always got about 36 watts out 
max on 6 and another friend with a 3000 also get about the same.


Reggie k6xr







 Tim Ellison  wrote:
You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at FlexRadio 
support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the problem with 6m.




-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman

Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went 
to 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all 
calibrated fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and 
shut down.


Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's to 
be done using the official release. Today I installed Drivers,Firmware 
and PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing the power calibrate, 
all HF bands did fine, This time when it got to 6m, it did not shut down 
PSDR ... It just sat there and did nothing, I could see a wave form in 
the filter bandwidth and the Mox tab was highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 
minutes before clicking X and stop on PSDR


I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 bit. 
their was no change with either,


So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?

Yes I was in 96k and 1024

Yes I used a dummy load on port one

yes it was a new data base

Radio Flex 5000a

Thanks for any help , Ed


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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Tim Ellison]

It is the PA calibration test form.  Don't run anything there unless instructed 
to do so by FlexRadio Support.  You can hose up the radio if you run some of 
these tests incorrectly. 

-Tim

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:16 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

What does Ctrl Shift F do?

Brett

- Original Message -
From: "Ed Stallman" 
To: 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts


> This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went to 
> 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all calibrated 
> fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and shut down.
>
> Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's to 
> be done using the official release. Today I installed Drivers,Firmware and 
> PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing the power calibrate, all HF 
> bands did fine, This time when it got to 6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... 
> It just sat there and did nothing, I could see a wave form in the filter 
> bandwidth and the Mox tab was highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes 
> before clicking X and stop on PSDR
>
> I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 bit. 
> their was no change with either,
>
> So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?
>
> Yes I was in 96k and 1024
>
> Yes I used a dummy load on port one
>
> yes it was a new data base
>
> Radio Flex 5000a
>
> Thanks for any help , Ed
>
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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Tim Ellison]

100 watts PEP



-Tim

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Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 6:00 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz; Ed Stallman; Tim Ellison
Subject: Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

What should be the power out on 6m? I have always got about 36 watts out max on 
6 and another friend with a 3000 also get about the same.

Reggie k6xr







 Tim Ellison  wrote: 
> You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at FlexRadio 
> support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the problem with 6m.
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts
> 
> This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went to 
> 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all calibrated 
> fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and shut down.
> 
> Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's 
> to be done using the official release. Today I installed 
> Drivers,Firmware and PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing 
> the power calibrate, all HF bands did fine, This time when it got to 
> 6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... It just sat there and did nothing, I 
> could see a wave form in the filter bandwidth and the Mox tab was 
> highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes before clicking X and stop on 
> PSDR
> 
> I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 
> bit. their was no change with either,
> 
> So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?
> 
> Yes I was in 96k and 1024
> 
> Yes I used a dummy load on port one
> 
> yes it was a new data base
> 
> Radio Flex 5000a
> 
> Thanks for any help , Ed
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Brett Gazdzinski]

What does Ctrl Shift F do?

Brett

- Original Message - 
From: "Ed Stallman" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts


This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went to 
150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all calibrated 
fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and shut down.


Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's to 
be done using the official release. Today I installed Drivers,Firmware and 
PSDR from the Flex web page (front page) Doing the power calibrate, all HF 
bands did fine, This time when it got to 6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... 
It just sat there and did nothing, I could see a wave form in the filter 
bandwidth and the Mox tab was highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes 
before clicking X and stop on PSDR


I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 bit. 
their was no change with either,


So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?

Yes I was in 96k and 1024

Yes I used a dummy load on port one

yes it was a new data base

Radio Flex 5000a

Thanks for any help , Ed


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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[k6xr]

What should be the power out on 6m? I have always got about 36 watts out max on 
6 and another friend with a 3000 also get about the same.

Reggie k6xr







 Tim Ellison  wrote: 
> You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at FlexRadio 
> support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the problem with 6m.
> 
> 
> 
> -Tim
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
> [mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman
> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
> To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts
> 
> This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went to 
> 150 watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all calibrated 
> fine until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and shut down.
> 
> Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's to be 
> done using the official release. Today I installed Drivers,Firmware and PSDR 
> from the Flex web page (front page) Doing the power calibrate, all HF bands 
> did fine, This time when it got to 6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... It just 
> sat there and did nothing, I could see a wave form in the filter bandwidth 
> and the Mox tab was highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes before clicking 
> X and stop on PSDR
> 
> I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 bit. their 
> was no change with either,
> 
> So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?
> 
> Yes I was in 96k and 1024
> 
> Yes I used a dummy load on port one
> 
> yes it was a new data base
> 
> Radio Flex 5000a
> 
> Thanks for any help , Ed
> 
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Re: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

[Tim Ellison]

You have done everything correctly.  Contact Dudley directly at FlexRadio 
support (supp...@flex-radio.com) so he can triage the problem with 6m.



-Tim

-Original Message-
From: flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz 
[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Ed Stallman
Sent: Friday, December 04, 2009 5:27 PM
To: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out 6 m zero watts

This happened when I updated SVN PB-Pal , My power on the HF bands went to 150 
watts . I did the Ctrl Shift F to calibrate the power, all calibrated fine 
until it got to 6m . At that point PSDR would stop and shut down.

Reading the mail on the reflector, I read were all calibrating need's to be 
done using the official release. Today I installed Drivers,Firmware and PSDR 
from the Flex web page (front page) Doing the power calibrate, all HF bands did 
fine, This time when it got to 6m, it did not shut down PSDR ... It just sat 
there and did nothing, I could see a wave form in the filter bandwidth and the 
Mox tab was highlighted . I Gave it may be 5 minutes before clicking X and stop 
on PSDR

I tried this with 2 different OS, windows XP home and Windows 7 32 bit. their 
was no change with either,

So were did my 100 watts go on 6m ?

Yes I was in 96k and 1024

Yes I used a dummy load on port one

yes it was a new data base

Radio Flex 5000a

Thanks for any help , Ed


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Re: [Flexradio] no power out

[Tim Ellison]

Service is provided by FlexRadio in Austin
 http://www.flex-radio.com/Support.aspx?topic=service



-Tim

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[mailto:flexradio-boun...@flex-radio.biz] On Behalf Of Carey Lockhart
Sent: Monday, November 23, 2009 10:44 AM
To: FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz
Subject: [Flexradio] no power out

Hello flexers
i have no power out after trying to adding a mosfet amp to my sdr-1000. i 
suffered severe RF overload. i am assuming that it killed the bpf/pa board or 
related components. where do i send this to have it repaired or is this 
something i can do my self? i do not now which components to check but do have 
the skill to replace them.

--
Carey Lockhart, KC5GTT
Boerne, Tx. 78006
www.kc5gtt.com
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out when operating split?

[Thompson_Peter]

Carl,

Thanks for the feedback - at least I now know that my rig was not behaving any 
more abnormally than yours!  Actually, Ft. Huachucha was the one I really 
wanted - my son did several months of training there.

Sounds like a bug report is in order since I can't think of any reason why 
split should not work even if the RX freq is outside the ham bands.  Also, the 
multirx issue was something I also noticed - maybe two bug reports.

73, Pete, N3EVL

> -Original Message-
> From: Carl Vangsness [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Monday, May 12, 2008 12:07 PM
> To: Thompson, Peter
> Cc: flexradio@flex-radio.biz
> Subject: Re: [Flexradio] No power out when operating split?
> 
> I had the same problem but finally got to work AAZ at Fort Huachucha AZ
> but hitting A<>B everytime he stood by for me. Using Split with all
> frequencies inside the regular ham bands is no problem. But with AAZ on
> 14.406 and listening on 14.346, jumping back and forth was the only way
> I could get things to work out.
> 
> Also find that MultiRx kills any out of Ham Band frequency. Everytime I
> tried to use 14.406 on VFO B and use MultiRx, the frequency in VFO B
> would jump to some random off-the-wall frequency inside the 20 meter
> band. I finally resorted to AAZ on VFO A and 14.346 on B and a fast
> hand
> on the trigger to jump back and forth. Tonight I will be changing my
> ShuttlePro assignments to include MultiRX, Split, and A<>B!!
> 
> 73, Carl WCØV
> 
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> 
> >I tried calling some of the military stations during the Armed Forces
> >Day event, this past Saturday.  This involved setting VFO A for RX to
> >the military station's freq and setting VFO B to the ham band freq for
> >TX.
> >
> >The rig would apparently tune fine via the ATU but I didn't appear to
> >see any output power during normal SSB TX.   Power out in non-split
> mode
> >seems to be fine.
> >
> >I need to run this test again to verify power out - I was using the
> >indication on the PSU ammeter which is usually indicative of output
> when
> >set for nominal 100W.  I'll run again with my power meter in the
> antenna
> >feed.  I'll also run again in split mode but with both TX and RX freq
> >inside the ham bands to see if this is a factor.
> >
> >Is there a config setting I'm missing that affects split operation,
> >especially when the RX freq is outside the ham bands?
> >
> >Rig: SDR-1000 + 100W PA + ATU + HPSDR Ozy & Janus
> >WinXP SP2, 2Gig, Pentium 4 2.4GHz
> >
> >Pete, N3EVL
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Re: [Flexradio] No power out when operating split?

[Carl Vangsness]

I had the same problem but finally got to work AAZ at Fort Huachucha AZ 
but hitting A<>B everytime he stood by for me. Using Split with all 
frequencies inside the regular ham bands is no problem. But with AAZ on 
14.406 and listening on 14.346, jumping back and forth was the only way 
I could get things to work out.

Also find that MultiRx kills any out of Ham Band frequency. Everytime I 
tried to use 14.406 on VFO B and use MultiRx, the frequency in VFO B 
would jump to some random off-the-wall frequency inside the 20 meter 
band. I finally resorted to AAZ on VFO A and 14.346 on B and a fast hand 
on the trigger to jump back and forth. Tonight I will be changing my 
ShuttlePro assignments to include MultiRX, Split, and A<>B!!

73, Carl WCØV

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

>I tried calling some of the military stations during the Armed Forces
>Day event, this past Saturday.  This involved setting VFO A for RX to
>the military station's freq and setting VFO B to the ham band freq for
>TX.  
> 
>The rig would apparently tune fine via the ATU but I didn't appear to
>see any output power during normal SSB TX.   Power out in non-split mode
>seems to be fine.
> 
>I need to run this test again to verify power out - I was using the
>indication on the PSU ammeter which is usually indicative of output when
>set for nominal 100W.  I'll run again with my power meter in the antenna
>feed.  I'll also run again in split mode but with both TX and RX freq
>inside the ham bands to see if this is a factor.  
> 
>Is there a config setting I'm missing that affects split operation,
>especially when the RX freq is outside the ham bands?
> 
>Rig: SDR-1000 + 100W PA + ATU + HPSDR Ozy & Janus
>WinXP SP2, 2Gig, Pentium 4 2.4GHz
> 
>Pete, N3EVL
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