date:20040812

Just a quick to let you folks know that the Belkin wireless 54g 
cardbus card WORKS with Panther (I'm the person who inquired in this 
list whether or not it did).

I read in lowendmac that it should work with Airport 3.1, so I went 
and bought it.
It worked right out of the box on my Wallstreet (running 10.3.4 *very 
well*, thanks to XPostFacto). It appears in the menu bar as Broadcom 
802.11g (afaik, this indicates the kind of chipset the card uses, so 
other cards with the same chipset ought to work, too). Also, if a 
version of Airport 3.1 or greater is available for jaguar (I don't 
have any machine running jaguar, so I don't know), then I imagine it 
should work also.
As far as using it, it works just as if the machine had an airport card.

Now I have a nearly 6 years old machine, which can do Panther, and 
has Firewire (Newertech card), Usb 2.0 (another Belkin card) and 
wireless g. And I did not install any drivers, these cards were 
supported by the drivers included in the OS (for the first two, I can 
confirm that they work with Jaguar). That's one thing to consider 
when people are choosing between a new iBook and a new Powerbook. Who 
knows what new technologies do arise in the next few years?

Luis Sequeira
(very happy with his Powerbook G3 Series (98), 233MHz, 384MB, 20GB)
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battery

One of the two batteries I have for my Wallstreet has died 
completely. I happen to be going to the US for two weeks, so I would 
like to take advantage of it and maybe buy a new one (lest the other 
one bite the dust too). Is there a place you can recommend that 
carries these batteries?

TIA
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Re: Restarting airport hardware

Jan, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Before you start Kissmac quit all applications that use connection to
Internet then when you quit Kissmac you will get control of the card back
and can continue working. Works fine on my PowerBook 12'' with Airport
Extreme and worked well on my older machine with original Airport Card.

This saves you restart :)

Thanks Jan, I'll try that.


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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There are some folks who will argue that Mac users need to use AV 
software to protect hapless Windows users you may communicate with, but 
transmitting a virus like that requires a deliberate act. You can't 
just do it 'accidentally'.

Word viruses can survive a trip to Macs and Word and then be passed on.
Letting that happen can be a bad choice for a business relationship, no
matter if you got the file from another person.

I've not seen a new Word or Excel macro virus released in over two 
years; the default settings of Word X and Excel X (and since Office 
2000 on the Windows side) would prevent them from working.
I have.



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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

Thomas, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

You can't possibly spread them to anyone else unless you physically include
the virus infested attachment when you send you email to a windows machine.
Never heard of Word viruses? This is in my circles, a bunch of Mac users
at work and in school and with many having a PC home, the major virus vehicle.

Also, some people in the Mac don't show file endings, don't take notice
of them even if shown and could very well spread these unwillingly.

I don't have a Virus app any longer, though I used to own Virex under OS
9. But, I don't have a habit of recommending my choices for other people
that may have other less intimate relationships with their machines. Not
that I'd expect that from users on this list of course.


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Re: battery

On 12/08/04 08:26, Luis Sequeira [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One of the two batteries I have for my Wallstreet has died
 completely. I happen to be going to the US for two weeks, so I would
 like to take advantage of it and maybe buy a new one (lest the other
 one bite the dust too). Is there a place you can recommend that
 carries these batteries?

I've got a replacement from Laptops-Battery.com for my Pismo for $109 and I
think the Wallstreet one was even cheaper. The battery is performing perfect
so far and seems to keep a larger charge than the original Apple one.

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Re: battery

2004-08-12 Thread Andrew Main

Laurent Daudelin wrote:
I've got a replacement from Laptops-Battery.com for my Pismo for $109 and I
think the Wallstreet one was even cheaper. The battery is performing perfect
so far and seems to keep a larger charge than the original Apple one.
Apparently you were lucky; they're now up to $149:
http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/default.php/cPath/1_43?osCsid=f9bed92085fff5a0eb122189f2421e45
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Re: battery

On 12/08/04 10:25, Andrew Main [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Laurent Daudelin wrote:
 
 I've got a replacement from Laptops-Battery.com for my Pismo for $109 and I
 think the Wallstreet one was even cheaper. The battery is performing perfect
 so far and seems to keep a larger charge than the original Apple one.
 
 Apparently you were lucky; they're now up to $149:
 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/default.php/cPath/1_43?osCsid=f9bed920
 85fff5a0eb122189f2421e45

It seems that their site is a little confusing or they have different
models.

Check:
http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/
products_id/6295

or the TinyURL equivalent:
http://tinyurl.com/53z3b

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Wallstreet malfunction

2004-08-12 Thread scrapiro

Recently while writing up my journal, i got a freeze, followed by a 
fading of my screen.A reboot followed with the result of burning 
components.Am i out of the wallstreet?
Rod

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Re: Adding printer to a Pismo 10.3.4

  Greetings Lista's,
   I am running 10.3.4 on a Pismo and am trying to add a PLW NTR
 printer to the system via an Asante bridge that I just got...I have the
 unit hooked up according to the directions but have absolutely no idea
 how to add the NTR as an available printer in 10.3.4   When I go to the
 Apple help site it shows that the drivers for this printer are included
 on Panther.  Unfortunately, I just can't figure out how to add the
 printer or get the system to recognize that it's hooked up..  I really
 need to get this done as my regular printer, an Epson 740 is 125 miles
 away..back home.  I called A/C for help and since I bought Panther over
 90 days ago they wanted to charge me $49 to talk about it
 Is there anyone in the group that can help me with this problem?  I have
 a cell phone that gives me free calls after 9pm so I would gladly call
 whoever can help in order to walk me through the process..
The Personal LaserWriter NTR is an AppleTalk printer so, assuming your
bridge is working fine, the printer name should appear in Print Setup
Utility when you choose to add an AppleTalk printer.
-Laurent.

Maybe the printer does not appear automatically. I think that it was 
not as simple, when I added my Deskwriter. Let me try to recap; maybe 
it will be useful.

1. Make sure that AppleTalk is active on the required connection in 
your mac; that should be the ethernet port - go to Network 
Preferences, select Show: Built-in Ethernet and click on the 
Appletalk tab. Then select the box that says Make Appletalk active 
(if it was not already, then you found the likely cause of your 
troubles).

2. Try and see if the printer now appears: go to Printer Setup 
Utility,  and click on Add; then select Appletalk and see if it is 
there. If it is, then you're ok.

If it still does not appear, then maybe you need a slightly more 
complicated route.

3. Open Terminal and type atlookup (without the quotes). [Don't 
worry, that's the only thing you have to use the Terminal for]
Wait a few seconds. A few lines of output
such as

 ffd6.10.84  HP LaserJet 4ML:LaserWriter
should appear.
If the printer is recognized in your Appletalk network, a line 
similar to the above but with some name involving  Personal Laser 
Writer should be among them.

Note the second part of the line (I'll use the one above as an 
example here, substitute the relevant names).

4. Open Printer Setup Utility, HOLD the OPTION KEY and click Add. 
Choose Advanced and then
Appletalk Printer Access Protocol. Under Device name:, choose a 
name you wish to call your printer by. Under Device URI:, you 
should put something like
  pap://HP%20LaserJet%20ML/LaserWriter
(note that you should:
  a) keep the pap://
  b) replace the other colons ':' with slashes '/'
  c) replace spaces ' ' with the characters '%20'
Finally, under printer model, select Apple and then the right 
model for you (or the most similar); in my mac, there is an entry for 
the Personal Laser Writer NTR, so you may be in luck!


HTH
Luis Sequeira

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Re: AIrport Extreme Printing.

I tried to get some help in the apple forums, but have had no luck so far.
This week I got an Airport extreme base station to go along with my 
iBook G4.  Setting up a network was pretty easy- I have my iMac G3 
wired in, and the iBook connects wirelessly with an airport extreme 
card.  The built in modem is great, lets me connect to my ISP via 
56k, which is my only option right now, wirelessly.  The network 
works great, except for the printer I have plugged into the base 
station.
I have a HP PSC 750 plugged into the base station USB port.  The 
software for it is loaded on both the iBook and the iMac, and both 
computers see the printer in the network via the rendevous 
selection, but I can not access it with either computer in any way 
shape or form.  The one lead I have is that when trying to access 
the printer via rendevous it says the drivers are not loaded.
Can anyone help?
TIA,
Brian
HP drivers are usually awful... may I inquire what is the version of 
the driver you have? 6.3.6 (the one, regrettably, in the hp site the 
last time I checked) is a total disaster. The previous, 6.3.4, is 
better.

The first thing I would do is revert to version 6.3.4, if possible.
IIRC, my printer had written in the box something to the effect of 
networking NOT supported; but, since mine has worked, even 
wirelessly, via usb printer sharing, i'd say there is hope.
I think you should add the printer as HP all in one printing (or 
something to that effect), not as rendezvous. You should then be 
given a choice of usb or tcp/ip; the logical thing then would be 
to choose tcp/ip and put the ip address of the base station (probably 
10.0.0.1, but you can find that out with Airport Admin Utility).
I don't have a base station with print server, so I cannot test this.

HTH
Luis Sequeira
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Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 11, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Marcin Wichary wrote:
Yeah, I don't know why they get mixed up either, given that OS X is 
so super-stable and all, but it seems they do.

See Tutorial: Permissions, Accounts, and File Organization
http://www.macfixit.com/article.php?story=20040107175410865
I read it, but it stops exactly where my knowledge does; as I 
mentioned, I know about Unix permissions, but I never had to repair 
them in any Unix/Linux/BSD machines I've been working on. I am still 
curious as to why you have to do it on Mac OS X.
Yeah I've been wondering this too and haven't found a good reason for 
it.

My only real guess that would make sense is some installer that removes 
the 'w' or 'S' bit from a directory that needs it.

Repair Permissions does seem very un-Unixy to me, and I've only done 
it once when there was a very specific problem with an installer than 
mucked them up.  I do wish they'd be more specific and let me use chmod 
via Terminal rather than some blanket change all permissions back to 
some default setting that was chosen who knows when by who knows who 
for who knows what

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Virus FUD (was Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5)

I hear you but I just can't seem to justify 100.00 (per year) for a
virus program and other stuff I just don't need. I would rather spend
60.00 on a single program. I realize that virus on a Mac are the least
of my problems but I am getting an amazing number of them through
email. I believe I am passing them (unwillingly) to others who use
Windows. I just want to take all precautions.
There is no way you are passing those virus unwillingly.
People may believe they receive infected e-mail from you, but that is 
because the viruses send e-mail with fake addresses: if someone with 
an infected windows machine has your address, then a virus may send 
infected messages that PRETEND to come from you to other people in 
this guy's address book.
Then some of these messages may bounce and, of course, they bounce to 
you (the ALLEGED sender), but you did not send them and there is 
nothing you can do to prevent that. They can keep sending those 
messages regardless of you (no AV software, and not even turning off 
your mac forever can do anything about it).

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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 11, 2004, at 5:40 PM, B Gardner wrote:
I hear you but I just can't seem to justify 100.00 (per year) for a 
virus program and other stuff I just don't need. I would rather spend 
60.00 on a single program. I realize that virus on a Mac are the least 
of my problems but I am getting an amazing number of them through 
email. I believe I am passing them (unwillingly) to others who use 
Windows. I just want to take all precautions.
No, you're not. The only way to do this is to take the attachment off 
the virus e-mail, attach it to a friends e-mail address and send it to 
them.


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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 12, 2004, at 5:36 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
There are some folks who will argue that Mac users need to use AV
software to protect hapless Windows users you may communicate with, 
but
transmitting a virus like that requires a deliberate act. You can't
just do it 'accidentally'.
Word viruses can survive a trip to Macs and Word and then be passed on.
Letting that happen can be a bad choice for a business relationship, no
matter if you got the file from another person.
Sigh. Looking at the logs of our AV server on the network, I see NO 
Word macro viruses found in a long long time. Moreover, modern versions 
of Word warn you when a file is opened with macros in it, and offer you 
the choice of opening it without them present. Immediately re-saving 
the document will eliminate the Macro viruses.

We have 4-500 users on our system getting Word files from all over the 
world.

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Re: AIrport Extreme Printing.

On Aug 11, 2004, at 8:14 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I tried to get some help in the apple forums, but have had no luck so 
far.
Have you tried the Mac OS X list at http://linuxprinting.org/macosx/ ?
They are the ones who helped me get my unsupported HP DeskJet to work 
with Airport Extreme.

Great folks, very low volume mailing list.
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Re: Belkin wireless

On Aug 12, 2004, at 8:03 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote:
That's one thing to consider when people are choosing between a new 
iBook and a new Powerbook. Who knows what new technologies do arise in 
the next few years?
The PC card slot on the Powerbook was one of the big reasons why I went 
for a Powerbook over an iBook.

There *will* be something new along the way that will need a new 
connector that wasn't built into the Powerbook, and this is really the 
only way to upgrade/expand it.

Glad it has worked for you!
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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

2004-08-12 Thread Bill Buckhaults

Can this happen by forwarding[ by Mac] an infected attachment to a pc user??
Bill
Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Aug 11, 2004, at 5:40 PM, B Gardner wrote:
I hear you but I just can't seem to justify 100.00 (per year) for a 
virus program and other stuff I just don't need. I would rather spend 
60.00 on a single program. I realize that virus on a Mac are the 
least of my problems but I am getting an amazing number of them 
through email. I believe I am passing them (unwillingly) to others 
who use Windows. I just want to take all precautions.

No, you're not. The only way to do this is to take the attachment off 
the virus e-mail, attach it to a friends e-mail address and send it to 
them.


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Re: Belkin wireless

2004-08-12 Thread John Slavin

But the 12 Powerbook doesn't have a PC card slot does it?
On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 11:41  AM, Timothy Luoma wrote:
On Aug 12, 2004, at 8:03 AM, Luis Sequeira wrote:
That's one thing to consider when people are choosing between a new 
iBook and a new Powerbook. Who knows what new technologies do arise 
in the next few years?
The PC card slot on the Powerbook was one of the big reasons why I 
went for a Powerbook over an iBook.

There *will* be something new along the way that will need a new 
connector that wasn't built into the Powerbook, and this is really the 
only way to upgrade/expand it.

Glad it has worked for you!
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Re: AIrport Extreme Printing.

2004-08-12 Thread Darkwolf45


Have you tried the Mac OS X list at http://linuxprinting.org/macosx/ ?

They are the ones who helped me get my unsupported HP DeskJet to work 
with Airport Extreme.

Great folks, very low volume mailing list.

TjL

Nope, didn't even know they existed.  I'll give them a shot, thanks,
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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

Bill, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Can this happen by forwarding[ by Mac] an infected attachment to a pc user??
Obviously. Though a well behaved user would of course try first to make
sure they didn't forward it.

One way is to clean the attachment with a modern word app as Bruce
suggested or as I used to do with MacLink as I wasn't using Word, while I
was exchanging files with Word users PC and Mac.


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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Looking at the logs of our AV server on the network, I see NO 
Word macro viruses found in a long long time. Moreover, modern versions 
of Word warn you when a file is opened with macros in it, and offer you 
the choice of opening it without them present. Immediately re-saving 
the document will eliminate the Macro viruses.
And everybody in the world are using modern versions of Word?

We have 4-500 users on our system getting Word files from all over the 
world.
Good for you, but that doesn't prove anything at all.

BTW, I didn't mean I have seen NEW word viruses lately, but I've seen
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Re: Virus FUD (was Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5)

Luis, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

There is no way you are passing those virus unwillingly.
Unknowingly there are ways to pass on viruses. One favorite among
people I exchange messages with are forwarding of Word files (30+
infected in the last few years) and also other formats, that they for
reasons, often obscure to me, do think are OK and vital for the message.

Some people may even pass on .scr files for some reason, but the majority
don't come from them of course. I'm sure this minority was passing them
on Unknowingly without the intention to passing on viruses.

Also, you're forgetting social viruses like hoaxmail. I regard these as
human mind viruses and obviously they don't harm computers, but these are
still annoying as they come from people you don't want to filter and that
should know better.


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Re: OS 10.3.5

Timothy, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

some default setting that was chosen who knows when by who knows who 
for who knows what

Well, by who knows are the developers of Mac OS X, I'm sure.


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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 12, 2004, at 9:47 AM, Bill Buckhaults wrote:
Can this happen by forwarding[ by Mac] an infected attachment to a pc 
user??
Bill
Possibly. It depends on the person and their mail client on the other 
end, forwarding the e-mail may make the attachment harder to strip out 
and execute. But, that PC user should be running AV software.

(Note, my disdain of AV software applies ONLY to Macs; it is an 
absolutely *essential* piece of software on a Windows system.)

It still requires a deliberate act on the part of the Mac user.
Don't forward dubious attachments to people.
sigh might as well get the rest of the lecture out
Don't open dubious attachments when you get them.
Don't open attachments you don't expect.
Don't forward emailed warnings about 'viruses that nothing finds and is 
so dangerous the FBI, Bill Gates and AOL have decided to rely on an 
email tree of friends and strangers to tell you about it...' messages 
like http://tinyurl.com/6k6jl and the like.

All windows e-mail viruses in circulation forge the 'From:' header, so 
if you get an email from your friend '[EMAIL PROTECTED]' saying 'Bill Gates 
says to please to run this important upgrade of the Windows' check the 
headers;  a real AOL mail will originate at AOL somewhere, there will 
be a received from: line in there that mentions AOL.

(This makes things a problem, particularly in a corporate setting, 
since you could well see an infected mail come from inside the company. 
It still won't be from who it says it is, and if these things are going 
around your company, you have bigger problems.)

No current windows email virus in circulation actually contains the 
content it claims to have. 'HotNakedBritney.avi.exe' does NOT somehow 
contain a video of Britney in addition to the virus.

Therefore, double-clicking *harder* or *more often* will NOT extract 
that tantalizing 'HotNakedBritney.avi' out of the email.

When you click on an attachment, and the AV software pops up and says 
it's an infected file. DO NOT CALL your help desk and demand that 
someone come down and stop that from happening so you can see the 
important file it won't let you open. (True story, I swear to Dog, I 
got that phone call. No, it wasn't HotNakedBritney.avi )


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Re: Belkin wireless

On Aug 12, 2004, at 10:08 AM, John Slavin wrote:
But the 12 Powerbook doesn't have a PC card slot does it?--
No, it doesn't. An unpleasant surprise for one faculty member here who 
bought one without really looking at the fine print...

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Re: Virus FUD (was Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5)

On Aug 12, 2004, at 11:18 AM, Mikael Byström wrote:
Also, you're forgetting social viruses like hoaxmail. I regard these as
human mind viruses and obviously they don't harm computers, but these 
are
still annoying as they come from people you don't want to filter and 
that
should know better.

Alas, no AV software does any good about those.
For them, you may wish to resort to hardware:
 http://tinyurl.com/4yogr, aka 'a cluestick' :-/
After 10 years we have finally gotten the majority of our users to 
recognize these as the hoaxes they are, but it took a long, long time.

(Sigh, and we've got a new crop of students next week)
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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 12, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
(Note, my disdain of AV software applies ONLY to Macs; it is an 
absolutely *essential* piece of software on a Windows system.)
Only if one uses IE, Outlook (Express) and/or opens files of dubious 
origin.

I consider AV a waste of $$ and RAM for my Windows systems, but also 
practice safe computing.

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Re: Belkin wireless

On Aug 12, 2004, at 2:40 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
On Aug 12, 2004, at 10:08 AM, John Slavin wrote:
But the 12 Powerbook doesn't have a PC card slot does it?--
I guess I should have said it was a reason I bought a 15 Powerbook 
instead of an iBook.


No, it doesn't. An unpleasant surprise for one faculty member here who 
bought one without really looking at the fine print...
Ouch.  Bummer.
For me 12 is nice if you travel a lot and have a desktop computer too. 
 It would be too small for me so I hadn't even really noticed.  (My PB 
is my main computer)

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Cant Delete A File

2004-08-12 Thread Mark Rath, LSW, Coordinator

I was downloading RealPlayer and my connection was interrupted. Now I have
an incomplete file on my desktop that I would like to trash. When I try to
trash it I am told that the file is used by another task right now and to
try later - I have tried everything - I have even shut down and restarted
the computer and still get the same message. Now I have a file just sitting
on my desktop that I can do nothing with.

I have an iBook running OS 10.2.8

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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

2004-08-12 Thread John

Timothy Luoma wrote:
On Aug 12, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
(Note, my disdain of AV software applies ONLY to Macs; it is an 
absolutely *essential* piece of software on a Windows system.)

Only if one uses IE, Outlook (Express) and/or opens files of dubious 
origin.

Not true at all! My lone Winblows box got infected with Sasser, and I 
was NOT using IE, Outlook, an I didn't open any attachments (I don't do 
email on it)! Actually I don't use that box for anything but an internet 
server for my other machines (mostly Macs) by sharing it's connection 
over my network. The hard drive had died and I replaced it with another, 
which meant a whole new reinstall of the OS (Win2k). I reconfigured my 
internet and ethernet connections, as well as my DirecPc satellite 
receiver and software (why I still had the PC in the first place) and 
let it connect. The next day I noticed that the machine was shutting it 
self down, and re-starting. Long story short, I found it was infected 
with the Sasser worm. So, just avoiding IE and Outlook, and not opening 
attachments isn't enough. Just being connected to the web is enough to 
get a WinDoze box infected these days. So I too consider AV software and 
a firewall a must for PC users.

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Re: battery

2004-08-12 Thread Thomas Ethen

How did you get to that page as their first page does not have that option
at all?

Tom
 
 It seems that their site is a little confusing or they have different
 models.
 
 Check:
 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/
 products_id/6295
 
 or the TinyURL equivalent:
 http://tinyurl.com/53z3b
 
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Re: battery

On 12/08/04 17:02, Thomas Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 How did you get to that page as their first page does not have that option
 at all?
 
 Tom
 
 It seems that their site is a little confusing or they have different
 models.
 
 Check:
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 products_id/6295
 
 or the TinyURL equivalent:
 http://tinyurl.com/53z3b
 
 -Laurent.
 

From the main page, Laptop Batteries. Then, in the following page, in the
Manufacturers section, Apple. In the next page, scroll down the list
until you see models MC-G3i for Wallstreet at $103.70 and NMA004L09 for
Lombard/Pismo at $109.

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Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5

On Aug 12, 2004, at 1:55 PM, John wrote:
Timothy Luoma wrote:
On Aug 12, 2004, at 2:38 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
(Note, my disdain of AV software applies ONLY to Macs; it is an 
absolutely *essential* piece of software on a Windows system.)
Only if one uses IE, Outlook (Express) and/or opens files of dubious 
origin.
Not true at all! My lone Winblows box got infected with Sasser, and I 
was NOT using IE, Outlook, an I didn't open any attachments (I don't 
do email on it)!
To be truthful, Timothy also said he 'practices safe computing' which 
would include keeping your systems up-to-date. Sasser exploited a hole 
that had been patched several weeks or months before the emergence of 
the virus, but you're right, one doesn't need to use IE, Outlook or 
open files of dubious origin to get infected.

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Re: Which modem script in 10.2 for built-in WS PDQ 56k modem?

2004-08-12 Thread Bob

(I see I sent George 2 copies of my reply this morning instead of one 
to the list -- sorry George -- so I'll re-send a copy to the list so 
ya'll won't think that I ignored his question.)

The National Enquirer reports at 11:18 PM -0700 8/11/04, George 
Mogiljansky wrote:

--- Bob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  The National Enquirer reports at 2:17 PM -0700
  8/11/04, George
  Mogiljansky wrote:
 
  Hi G-Powerbookers,
  
  Using plain vanilla 10.2 without updates in a
  Wallstreet 300 MHz PDQ, internet access via dial-up
  with built-in modem; (getting very flaky connection
  in
  a remote area (cottage country), so the line may be
  the problem).
  
  Which modem script is usable or native to the WS
  PDQ?
  Thx
  George
  
  PS: after contacting my ISP, service improved
  dramatically (using the Hayes Accura 56k script).
 
  George,
  Apple's modem scripts are okay, as long as you have
  good phone lines,
  then they have some serious drawbacks. Very flaky
  connection does
  not really compute on this end g, but I'll pass
  along the same
  information I shared with another list member who
  was looking for
  modem scripts a couple of months ago.
 
  The modem scripts listed below will be some of the
  best ones that you
  will find anywhere (especially for poor phone
  lines). Ross is a modem
  wizard. They are specifically configured for the
  Apple internal 56k
  modem.  They should work with the internal 56k modem
  in any Mac
  (PowerBook G3 Series, BW G3, iMac, iBook, G4)  --
  I've used them
  with my PDQ -- as well as some Global Village modems
  (those which are
  V.90/K56Flex, not V.90/x2). And they're free.
 
  The only problem is that there is very little
  explanation with them.
  The best thing to do is to try them and see which
  one(s) give you the
  best results. Depending on what your exact problems
  are and what you
  want to accomplish (Do you just want faster
  throughput? Do you want a
  more stable connection? Are you having problem with
  disconnects?),
  you might want to start with a slow script and work
  your way up until
  you start to lose any gain that you have acquired.
 
 
http://www.taniwha.org.uk/files/RBScriptsFeb2001.hqx
 
  HTH,
 
  Bob

Thanks, Bob.
If these are, in fact, OS X modem scripts,

I have used them in OS X (Jaguar).

how or where do I install them in my Jaguar sys folder(s)?
(I don't have OS 9 anywhere.)

All of my modem scripts are located in:

library/modem scripts/
(NOTE: that's not user's/library...)

Then select the script that you want from the Network = modem pane.
You may have to log out and back in to set the newly installed scripts.

Bob


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Re: Cant Delete A File

2004-08-12 Thread Aaron Willems

I've seen this one before. There are two ways to delete it. If you have OS 9
installed you can boot into OS 9, and delete the file from there. Another
way to do it is to launch the terminal and delete the file via the command
line. You can use the cd command to navigate to the desktop, and then use
the rm command to delete the file.

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 I was downloading RealPlayer and my connection was interrupted. Now I have
 an incomplete file on my desktop that I would like to trash. When I try to
 trash it I am told that the file is used by another task right now and to
 try later - I have tried everything - I have even shut down and restarted
 the computer and still get the same message. Now I have a file just sitting
 on my desktop that I can do nothing with.
 
 I have an iBook running OS 10.2.8
 
 Thoughts? 
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Airport self-assigned IP adress. . .

2004-08-12 Thread Zoltan Batiz

Hello All,
I recently went on a trip the other week and my airport detected a 
network.  Nothing unusual, but even though it was connected to this 
network, I wasn't connected to the internet because the Airport was 
reporting a self-assigned IP address .  Is there a setting to change 
this?  Or was the wireless network not free?

Please let me know. . .
Thanks,
Jess
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Surface current in the Titanium Powerbooks

Is it a common experience that the early Powerbook G4s have some low
voltage current on the titanium surface, in some cases? 
Some symptoms: When I'm on the phone and touch the titanium I get a earth
hum (or similar) in the phone, indicating I'm becoming a part of the
earth loop current or similar. When my son was touching the computer and
I put my hand on his shoulder I felt a strange sensation in my
fingertips, that I recognized to have felt at times when using my book.  

I think this sensation can only be felt when operating from the wall
outlet and not on battery, but I'm not completely sure.

I haven't measured it with equipment yet, but I'm going too. I have felt
the same sensations, even more serious, on my friends Powerbook G4 550 (
I have a 400).

Is this a known problem with this range of models and are there any known
solutions? I have a puck, but see no third pin for earth on there, so I
suppose it won't be different using a truly earthed wall outlet. Can I
earth the machine manually somehow or what can I do?



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Re: Virus FUD (was Re: DW or TTP? fork from Re: OS 10.3.5)

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

After 10 years we have finally gotten the majority of our users to 
recognize these as the hoaxes they are, but it took a long, long time.

Tell me about it.  :)


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Re: Wallstreet malfunction

scrapiro, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

i got a freeze, followed by a 
fading of my screen.A reboot followed with the result of burning 
components

Burning? Do you mean hot? Your machine got hot?

Please supply more detailed symptoms to us. Occasional hardware failure
may look more serious than it is.


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Thomas Ethen wrote:
How did you get to that page as their first page does not have that option
at all?
It seems that their site is a little confusing or they have different
models.
Check:
http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/
products_id/6295

-Laurent.
I see the $109 battery _is_ on the Apple battery list page
http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/default.php/cPath/1_43?osCsid=f9bed92085fff5a0eb122189f2421e45,
about 2/3 down. How Laurent found it I dunno; every link I tried on
the main page took me to this list page, where the 2nd battery
(#B-5899) is clearly identified as for Apple PowerBook G3
1999/2000, and priced at $149, while the one Laurent bought
(#NMA004L09) is identified only as Part Number MCL-G3i and costs
$109. The only way to find out what PBs take the unidentified
batteries is to click on each one ('less you can guess from the
picture). Click on #NMA004L09 and you go to the page above, where it
is identified as for the Lombard/Pismo. There _is_ a significant
difference, however: the $109 battery is 4000mAH while the $149
battery is 5400mAH. So you get what you pay for. I also note that the
higher capacity battery has a lower voltage rating; I don't
understand enough about the subject to know what this indicates.

The real premium batteries these days seem to be the ones from Newer, via OWC:
http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=999Title=PowerBook%20AccessoriesTemplate=
According to this page, Apple's standard Lombard/Pismo batteries are
4800mAH. So the $159 Newer battery (6600 mAH) offers 65% more
capacity (roughly equivalent to time) than the $109 battery (4000
mAH). The latter would probably be fine for me, as I seldom use my PB
off the desk, but need more than the 10 minutes I now get when I do.

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Re: Airport self-assigned IP adress. . .

On Aug 12, 2004, at 3:31 PM, Zoltan Batiz wrote:
Hello All,
I recently went on a trip the other week and my airport detected a 
network.  Nothing unusual, but even though it was connected to this 
network, I wasn't connected to the internet because the Airport was 
reporting a self-assigned IP address .  Is there a setting to change 
this?  Or was the wireless network not free?
Most likely the network you were seeing required a WEP key ('Password' 
is what Airport calls it) that wasn't entered. It's also possible that 
it was also restricted to specific MAC addresses.

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G4 Ti Screen Corruption

2004-08-12 Thread MMB

Hi aLL:
I have recently bought a G4 Ti 867 on OS 10.2.8 and I was about to 
write and encourage anyone else hesitating to transfer from their 
beloved 3400c BUT.

I need help with something bad that has happened.
Let me explain the whole sad story: Yesterday I put the computer on 
sleep for a few hours and returned to wake it up. I saw the screen 
light up briefly and then all went black. Silent. Dead.

Well, after an hour of vainly trying every trick I knew I rang 
Applecare and we traced it to the battery being very low and it simply 
did not have enough power to come alive again. Red face! The power cord 
had loosened. Be warned.

Well, firming up that connection certainly enabled me to wake it up. 
BUT... the screen is now an acid green. I have tried re-setting display 
options with no success. Even re-set the PRAM.

The computer functions fine (I was beginning to love it) but of course 
all images are corrupted - like a solarised image but more fragmented. 
The windows also have edges that echo.

I live so far away from any town that I want to try and settle this 
myself rather than send it off by post.

And, woulden't you know it (Friday 13) ...despite the friendly 
Applecare folk, they have not yet received my APplecare registration 
(posted six days ago) and their help is therefore limited. And I have a 
weekend of acid green Aqua facing me all weekend.
Has anyone ever experienced this?
I have owned a Mac SE, LCIII, LC630 and Powerbooks 100, 170 and 3400c 
and this is new to me. As is OS X of course.

Any suggestions gratefully received.
Maria B
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Re: Re.: OS 10.3.5

macnifico, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Yesterday I installed the upgrade with no problems. I DIDN'T run 
permissions, the CD, etc.

and your point is?


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Re: OS 10.3.5

Laurent, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

I try to keep my systems as clean as possible and I must say that most of
the time, I don't think about running Disk Utility to repair permissions
here and there, before and after upgrades and I haven't had any serious
problem so far.

So, keep that in mind the next time you find a colorful, innovative
utility with all kind of bells and whistles that can make you fresh coffee
when you wake up and start your toaster in the morning. There ain't such
things and all those little messy extensions you keep burn precious cycles
on your system and many of them will compromise the very permissions that
you're trying to reset, not mentioning affecting the system stability and
reliability as a whole...

I wouldn't put all apps in the same basket like that. Some of these apps
are veryu useful. The ones I use haven't given me any problems and if any
piece have I removed them.


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Re: OS 10.3.5

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Mac OS X just works, and most people just expect it to.

Not for everyone. Audio apps working together seem to have some issues to
solve. Just check out the Mac OS X Audio sites.

I have very few problems so far, since Jaguar. So I have those
expectations like above.



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Re: OS 10.3.5

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

In real life, most people have few problems with OS X.

let me guess, real life is lives approved by you? How do you find
the time for all this approval business?

I have few problems with OS X. Is that enough to become approved?



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Re: battery

2004-08-12 Thread Thomas Ethen

I have a Newer battery from OWC and it will hold a 3+ hour charge in real
world work on my Pismo, and just under 5 hours with extensive power saving.

I am looking for a battery for my iBook G3 12 for a reasonable price and
would welcome any advice.


Tom

 The real premium batteries these days seem to be the ones from Newer, via OWC:
 http://eshop.macsales.com/Catalog_Page.cfm?Parent=999Title=PowerBook%20Acces
 soriesTemplate=
 According to this page, Apple's standard Lombard/Pismo batteries are
 4800mAH. So the $159 Newer battery (6600 mAH) offers 65% more
 capacity (roughly equivalent to time) than the $109 battery (4000
 mAH). The latter would probably be fine for me, as I seldom use my PB
 off the desk, but need more than the 10 minutes I now get when I do.
 
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Re: OS 10.3.5

Mikael, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

Bruce, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:

In real life, most people have few problems with OS X.

let me guess, real life is lives approved by you? How do you find
the time for all this approval business?

I have few problems with OS X. Is that enough to become approved?

I forgot to add the ; to indicate something. I'm sorry about that.
I'm sorry if anyone find ironic or sarcastic remarks offending, but
blanket statements are must be combatted somehow. I was once a person who
sometimes in the heat of the debate forgot that my experience, ever so
long, hardly could account for everyone. And I also gave blanket
statements. So I know one when I read one. 


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Re: battery

2004-08-12 Thread Thomas Ethen

I now see that they have different capacities in the batteries they sell and
that accounts for the prices.

Tom

 It seems that their site is a little confusing or they have different
 models.
 
 Check:
 http://www.laptops-battery.com/catalog/product_info.php/manufacturers_id/3/
 products_id/6295
 
 or the TinyURL equivalent:
 http://tinyurl.com/53z3b
 
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Re: Surface current in the Titanium Powerbooks

2004-08-12 Thread Malcolm Cornelius

on 12/08/04 23:55, Mikael Byström at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Is it a common experience that the early Powerbook G4s have some low
 voltage current on the titanium surface, in some cases?
 Some symptoms: When I'm on the phone and touch the titanium I get a earth
 hum (or similar) in the phone, indicating I'm becoming a part of the
 earth loop current or similar. When my son was touching the computer and
 I put my hand on his shoulder I felt a strange sensation in my
 fingertips, that I recognized to have felt at times when using my book.
 
 I think this sensation can only be felt when operating from the wall
 outlet and not on battery, but I'm not completely sure.
 
 I haven't measured it with equipment yet, but I'm going too. I have felt
 the same sensations, even more serious, on my friends Powerbook G4 550 (
 I have a 400).
 
 Is this a known problem with this range of models and are there any known
 solutions? I have a puck, but see no third pin for earth on there, so I
 suppose it won't be different using a truly earthed wall outlet. Can I
 earth the machine manually somehow or what can I do?

I've had it on all Tis I've owned and still have it on the 1Ghz with the
with adapter.

I get hum thru the speakers on the 'book at time when using the trackpad.

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I just ordered a iBook

I'm new to this list, but I've been on the G-List and iMac-List for 
some time now. I have a friend who works for Apple and she got me a 12 
iBook G4 For $897.19!!! And thats after 3-day air shipping, and my 
local (California) sales tax 8.75%!!  Anyways aside from mice and what 
not, is there any accessories you guys would recommend I get?

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

on 12/08/04 22:28, Jonathan Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

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 local (California) sales tax 8.75%!!  Anyways aside from mice and what
 not, is there any accessories you guys would recommend I get?

A case to protect it, a spare adapter and maybe some KlearScreen to clear
the screen...

-Laurent.
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 let me guess, real life is lives approved by you? How do you find
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 I have few problems with OS X. Is that enough to become approved?

Since Bruce is a system administrator where he works, I would assume that
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Re: I just ordered a iBook

on 12/08/04 22:45, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 on 12/08/04 22:28, Jonathan Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
 I'm new to this list, but I've been on the G-List and iMac-List for
 some time now. I have a friend who works for Apple and she got me a 12
 iBook G4 For $897.19!!! And thats after 3-day air shipping, and my
 local (California) sales tax 8.75%!!  Anyways aside from mice and what
 not, is there any accessories you guys would recommend I get?
 
 A case to protect it, a spare adapter and maybe some KlearScreen to clear
 the screen...

Of course, the last suggestion should have read KlearScreen to clean the
screen, not to clear it!

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:45 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
A case to protect it, a spare adapter and maybe some KlearScreen to 
clear
the screen...

-Laurent.
But there is no de-facto must have accessories list? What do you guys 
use with your iBook/PowerBooks?

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

2004-08-12 Thread MTH

On Thursday, August 12, 2004, at 09:28  PM, Jonathan Newman wrote:
I'm new to this list, but I've been on the G-List and iMac-List for 
some time now. I have a friend who works for Apple and she got me a 
12 iBook G4 For $897.19!!! And thats after 3-day air shipping, and my 
local (California) sales tax 8.75%!!  Anyways aside from mice and what 
not, is there any accessories you guys would recommend I get?

 - Jonathan
I can't really give you any advice on accessories, but if you plan on 
using the trackpad at all then I suggest that you download sidtrack. 
Here is the URL:

http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/

700MHz iBook G3
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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:49 PM, MTH wrote:
I can't really give you any advice on accessories, but if you plan on 
using the trackpad at all then I suggest that you download sidtrack. 
Here is the URL:

http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/

Hmm, thats very interesting. I'm quite used to using PC laptops, and 
I'm not too worried about the functionality of the iBooks track pad. 
But that brings me to another thought. I really hate the single, or 
double click function that most track-pads seem to have out of the box. 
I'm always moving my finger off of the pad, and back onto it in order 
to get the pointer to go where I want it to go. When ever I do that my 
computers seem to think thats a click or double click and it all get 
confusing. So I usually turn that off. Anyways, will I be able to turn 
it off on my new iBook?

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:49 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:

Of course, the last suggestion should have read KlearScreen to clean 
the
screen, not to clear it!

-Laurent.

you sure it isn't like using white out for on screen correction?
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Re: I just ordered a iBook

2004-08-12 Thread Brian Andrews

I don't think the iBook's trackpad acts as a mouse button; you can get 
this feature in Sidetrack but it sounds like you'll want to disable it.

As for accessories...first item will probably be to throw an Airport 
Extreme card and a 512mb SODIMM in there.  After that, I agree that you 
should get a case or sleeve to protect the iBook.  There are huge 
threads at both http://www.macnn.com and http://forums.macrumors.com on 
the best cases  sleeves.

Besides that you don't really need much, all your USB and Firewire 
accessories will work with your new 'book just fine.

ps--What iBook did you get 12 or 14?  Combo drive or Superdrive?  
Congrats and have fun!

On Aug 12, 2004, at 10:58 PM, Jonathan Newman wrote:
On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:49 PM, MTH wrote:
I can't really give you any advice on accessories, but if you plan on 
using the trackpad at all then I suggest that you download sidtrack. 
Here is the URL:

http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/

Hmm, thats very interesting. I'm quite used to using PC laptops, and 
I'm not too worried about the functionality of the iBooks track pad. 
But that brings me to another thought. I really hate the single, or 
double click function that most track-pads seem to have out of the 
box. I'm always moving my finger off of the pad, and back onto it in 
order to get the pointer to go where I want it to go. When ever I do 
that my computers seem to think thats a click or double click and it 
all get confusing. So I usually turn that off. Anyways, will I be able 
to turn it off on my new iBook?

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 8:12 PM, Brian Andrews wrote:
ps--What iBook did you get 12 or 14?  Combo drive or Superdrive?  
Congrats and have fun!

I have the standard 12 / 1GHz / Combo / 256MB / 30GB Hard Drive / 10.3 
etc...

I have a Backpack that was designed to have a laptop in it, It's got a 
nice cushy section that will protect the laptop nicely and leave enough 
room for my college books.

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

on 12/08/04 22:58, Jonathan Newman at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Aug 12, 2004, at 7:49 PM, MTH wrote:
 
 I can't really give you any advice on accessories, but if you plan on
 using the trackpad at all then I suggest that you download sidtrack.
 Here is the URL:
 
 http://www.ragingmenace.com/software/sidetrack/
 
 
 
 Hmm, thats very interesting. I'm quite used to using PC laptops, and
 I'm not too worried about the functionality of the iBooks track pad.
 But that brings me to another thought. I really hate the single, or
 double click function that most track-pads seem to have out of the box.
 I'm always moving my finger off of the pad, and back onto it in order
 to get the pointer to go where I want it to go. When ever I do that my
 computers seem to think thats a click or double click and it all get
 confusing. So I usually turn that off. Anyways, will I be able to turn
 it off on my new iBook?

It's up to you. You can turn trackpad clicking on or off. Personally, I use
it all the time and NEVER use the clicker button on my PowerBook...

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 8:26 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:
It's up to you. You can turn trackpad clicking on or off. Personally, 
I use
it all the time and NEVER use the clicker button on my PowerBook...

-Laurent.
But doesn't it get confused between the clicks and the finger 
repositioning?

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

2004-08-12 Thread William Wiseman

ps--What iBook did you get 12 or 14?  Combo drive or Superdrive?  
Congrats and have fun!

I have the standard 12 / 1GHz / Combo / 256MB / 30GB Hard Drive / 
10.3 etc...

I have a Backpack that was designed to have a laptop in it, It's got a 
nice cushy section that will protect the laptop nicely and leave 
enough room for my college books.

What do all of you guys/gals use with your iBook / PowerBooks?
 - Jonathan
G4/800 etc
Added Airport Ex and 512MB RAM immediately.
On my desk at home I use a Podium Coolpad to raise the unit and allow 
more air flow. My desk  keyboard and trackball were attached to my old 
iMac so nothing new there. I carry a Newertech Lapbottom in my backpack 
when I want something on the road. I also picked up a used AC adapter 
to leave plugged in at my desk so I'm not constantly have to burrow 
under my desk to plug one in. And an iPod. :-)

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Re: I just ordered a iBook

On Aug 12, 2004, at 8:38 PM, William Wiseman wrote:
And an iPod. :-)
JeffW.

I've already got a 20GB 4G iPod, but it's associated with my eMac (Home 
Desktop). I could transfer all the songs over to my new iBook, but why?

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