Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
Lombards have also been known to have problems with their cache (on chip) memory, which could be why you can't get X to install. Andrew On 2/9/05 12:12 AM, Dijkwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is/was that it is a RAM problem. On my 400 MHz Lombard installing OS 9 is no problem, neither is installing 10.0.3 as long as I use the 64 MB chip the Lombard came with. Since 64 MB is to little RAM to install 10.1, 10.2 or 10.3 with, I had to upgrade the RAM: any configuration used so far, up to and including 320 MB, leeds to a freeze sometime during the installation process. Apparently it is known that OSX is rather picky about its RAM and I've read somewhere that PC-100 is the best variety to use. Since all my extra RAM is PC-133 or PC-66, I was planning to get my hands on a 128 MB PC-100 RAM chip, put it in the lower slot, keep the upper empty and see what happens during 10.3 installation. Based on your experiences, maybe I shouldn't; on the other hand, all RAM present in the Lombard during installation might have to be of one variety but later on, after installation, other brands of RAM could be added. I'll keep on working at it, Later, Peter Op 8-feb-05 om 22:07 heeft The Real Seed Catalogue het volgende geschreven: Hi All, some may have heard this story from other lists but now, after having used fixed almost every mac ever produced before 1999, I've met one I can't diagnose! Hoping someone here can help. We bought a Lombard 400/DVD/256/6 off ebay.. . . . .. .and it hard-froze all the time under 9.2 (every 2 mins) ... and hard-froze occasionally under 9.1, often with type 2/3 after rebooting ... and locked up as soon as you launch the installation of X10.3 (booting from DVD) ...but stable under 9.2 if booted extensions off. . . and really happy playing DVDs - can watch an entire DVD in 9.1 Just to be clear these are all fresh installs, formatted HD, two different HDs, nvram reset etc - I used to think I knew what I was doing in these cases. So I'm thinking RAM or CPU card here - ok so far? Ram fitted was Kingston KTA-iMac/128 x 2. Tried swapping / removing one at a time , no difference. Today I got a new (£££!) Crucial 256 Mb chip for it instead of the Kingston. And this is where I'm _really_ confused. Now it is much better but still bad: ..totally stable in 9.1 ..locks up sometimes in 9.2 ..will get part way through installing X10.3 So it is a lot better but not right. I have 3 theories: 1) the RAM. The original was PC-66. The new is PC-100. Maybe PC-133 would cure it?I called Crucial and they were really helpful - they have sold about 100 modules for that model and had 3% returns, they are sure it is ok. They were adamant the PC-133 would not help. 2) The CPU card 3) The Mobo So.. (sorry for the long post) WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? Any suggestions very welcome, it is beginning to get to me! Ben -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
Is there a fix for that? Peter Op 9-feb-05 om 9:18 heeft Andrew F. het volgende geschreven: Lombards have also been known to have problems with their cache (on chip) memory, which could be why you can't get X to install. Andrew On 2/9/05 12:12 AM, Dijkwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is/was that it is a RAM problem. On my 400 MHz Lombard installing OS 9 is no problem, neither is installing 10.0.3 as long as I use the 64 MB chip the Lombard came with. Since 64 MB is to little RAM to install 10.1, 10.2 or 10.3 with, I had to upgrade the RAM: any configuration used so far, up to and including 320 MB, leeds to a freeze sometime during the installation process. Apparently it is known that OSX is rather picky about its RAM and I've read somewhere that PC-100 is the best variety to use. Since all my extra RAM is PC-133 or PC-66, I was planning to get my hands on a 128 MB PC-100 RAM chip, put it in the lower slot, keep the upper empty and see what happens during 10.3 installation. Based on your experiences, maybe I shouldn't; on the other hand, all RAM present in the Lombard during installation might have to be of one variety but later on, after installation, other brands of RAM could be added. I'll keep on working at it, Later, Peter Op 8-feb-05 om 22:07 heeft The Real Seed Catalogue het volgende geschreven: Hi All, some may have heard this story from other lists but now, after having used fixed almost every mac ever produced before 1999, I've met one I can't diagnose! Hoping someone here can help. We bought a Lombard 400/DVD/256/6 off ebay.. . . . .. .and it hard-froze all the time under 9.2 (every 2 mins) ... and hard-froze occasionally under 9.1, often with type 2/3 after rebooting ... and locked up as soon as you launch the installation of X10.3 (booting from DVD) ...but stable under 9.2 if booted extensions off. . . and really happy playing DVDs - can watch an entire DVD in 9.1 Just to be clear these are all fresh installs, formatted HD, two different HDs, nvram reset etc - I used to think I knew what I was doing in these cases. So I'm thinking RAM or CPU card here - ok so far? Ram fitted was Kingston KTA-iMac/128 x 2. Tried swapping / removing one at a time , no difference. Today I got a new (£££!) Crucial 256 Mb chip for it instead of the Kingston. And this is where I'm _really_ confused. Now it is much better but still bad: ..totally stable in 9.1 ..locks up sometimes in 9.2 ..will get part way through installing X10.3 So it is a lot better but not right. I have 3 theories: 1) the RAM. The original was PC-66. The new is PC-100. Maybe PC-133 would cure it?I called Crucial and they were really helpful - they have sold about 100 modules for that model and had 3% returns, they are sure it is ok. They were adamant the PC-133 would not help. 2) The CPU card 3) The Mobo So.. (sorry for the long post) WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? Any suggestions very welcome, it is beginning to get to me! Ben -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronics
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On Tue, Feb 8, 2005 at 3:19 am -0500, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 8-Feb-05, at 9:03 PM, Jacob wrote: What app are you trying to run? Could there be an open source or shareware equivalent? It's a program in Python, PyDance. It *is* open source. But no one knows how to fix it. I don't know of any sufficiently functional equivalents. Is there any chance the problem is due to the version of Python installed (2.2 on Jaguar, 2.3 on Panther)? In which case you might be able to fix it by downgrading your Python installation. TimH -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
Wouldn't that be a problem for 10.0.3 also. I can get that to install without any problem; problems come with 10.2 and 10.3 when I have to use additional RAM. Peter Op 9-feb-05 om 9:18 heeft Andrew F. het volgende geschreven: Lombards have also been known to have problems with their cache (on chip) memory, which could be why you can't get X to install. Andrew On 2/9/05 12:12 AM, Dijkwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is/was that it is a RAM problem. On my 400 MHz Lombard installing OS 9 is no problem, neither is installing 10.0.3 as long as I use the 64 MB chip the Lombard came with. Since 64 MB is to little RAM to install 10.1, 10.2 or 10.3 with, I had to upgrade the RAM: any configuration used so far, up to and including 320 MB, leeds to a freeze sometime during the installation process. Apparently it is known that OSX is rather picky about its RAM and I've read somewhere that PC-100 is the best variety to use. Since all my extra RAM is PC-133 or PC-66, I was planning to get my hands on a 128 MB PC-100 RAM chip, put it in the lower slot, keep the upper empty and see what happens during 10.3 installation. Based on your experiences, maybe I shouldn't; on the other hand, all RAM present in the Lombard during installation might have to be of one variety but later on, after installation, other brands of RAM could be added. I'll keep on working at it, Later, Peter Op 8-feb-05 om 22:07 heeft The Real Seed Catalogue het volgende geschreven: Hi All, some may have heard this story from other lists but now, after having used fixed almost every mac ever produced before 1999, I've met one I can't diagnose! Hoping someone here can help. We bought a Lombard 400/DVD/256/6 off ebay.. . . . .. .and it hard-froze all the time under 9.2 (every 2 mins) ... and hard-froze occasionally under 9.1, often with type 2/3 after rebooting ... and locked up as soon as you launch the installation of X10.3 (booting from DVD) ...but stable under 9.2 if booted extensions off. . . and really happy playing DVDs - can watch an entire DVD in 9.1 Just to be clear these are all fresh installs, formatted HD, two different HDs, nvram reset etc - I used to think I knew what I was doing in these cases. So I'm thinking RAM or CPU card here - ok so far? Ram fitted was Kingston KTA-iMac/128 x 2. Tried swapping / removing one at a time , no difference. Today I got a new (£££!) Crucial 256 Mb chip for it instead of the Kingston. And this is where I'm _really_ confused. Now it is much better but still bad: ..totally stable in 9.1 ..locks up sometimes in 9.2 ..will get part way through installing X10.3 So it is a lot better but not right. I have 3 theories: 1) the RAM. The original was PC-66. The new is PC-100. Maybe PC-133 would cure it?I called Crucial and they were really helpful - they have sold about 100 modules for that model and had 3% returns, they are sure it is ok. They were adamant the PC-133 would not help. 2) The CPU card 3) The Mobo So.. (sorry for the long post) WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? Any suggestions very welcome, it is beginning to get to me! Ben -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
I gather you have a 256MB RAM card; have you tried removing the 64MB card and putting the 256MB card in the slot the 64MB card was in? I have a Lombard CPU card which was giving me lots of trouble until I noticed that one of the contacts in the upper RAM slot was damaged; RAM in the lower slot works fine, but I can't put anything in the upper slot. Lombard CPU cards are known for cache failure (it's happened to me); the solution is to replace the CPU card, or have the faulty one repaired. I've had good experience for some years with DTT Service http://www.dttservice.com/appleportables/powerbookg3.html; you can send them the whole PBk and they'll diagnose it for free; their repair prices are least expensive I know. Andrew Main On Feb 9, 2005, at 4:02 AM, Dijkwel wrote: Wouldn't that be a problem for 10.0.3 also. I can get that to install without any problem; problems come with 10.2 and 10.3 when I have to use additional RAM. Peter Op 9-feb-05 om 9:18 heeft Andrew F. het volgende geschreven: Lombards have also been known to have problems with their cache (on chip) memory, which could be why you can't get X to install. Andrew On 2/9/05 12:12 AM, Dijkwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My feeling is/was that it is a RAM problem. On my 400 MHz Lombard installing OS 9 is no problem, neither is installing 10.0.3 as long as I use the 64 MB chip the Lombard came with. Since 64 MB is to little RAM to install 10.1, 10.2 or 10.3 with, I had to upgrade the RAM: any configuration used so far, up to and including 320 MB, leeds to a freeze sometime during the installation process. Apparently it is known that OSX is rather picky about its RAM and I've read somewhere that PC-100 is the best variety to use. Since all my extra RAM is PC-133 or PC-66, I was planning to get my hands on a 128 MB PC-100 RAM chip, put it in the lower slot, keep the upper empty and see what happens during 10.3 installation. Based on your experiences, maybe I shouldn't; on the other hand, all RAM present in the Lombard during installation might have to be of one variety but later on, after installation, other brands of RAM could be added. I'll keep on working at it, Later, Peter Op 8-feb-05 om 22:07 heeft The Real Seed Catalogue het volgende geschreven: Hi All, some may have heard this story from other lists but now, after having used fixed almost every mac ever produced before 1999, I've met one I can't diagnose! Hoping someone here can help. We bought a Lombard 400/DVD/256/6 off ebay.. . . . .. .and it hard-froze all the time under 9.2 (every 2 mins) ... and hard-froze occasionally under 9.1, often with type 2/3 after rebooting ... and locked up as soon as you launch the installation of X10.3 (booting from DVD) ...but stable under 9.2 if booted extensions off. . . and really happy playing DVDs - can watch an entire DVD in 9.1 Just to be clear these are all fresh installs, formatted HD, two different HDs, nvram reset etc - I used to think I knew what I was doing in these cases. So I'm thinking RAM or CPU card here - ok so far? Ram fitted was Kingston KTA-iMac/128 x 2. Tried swapping / removing one at a time , no difference. Today I got a new (£££!) Crucial 256 Mb chip for it instead of the Kingston. And this is where I'm _really_ confused. Now it is much better but still bad: ..totally stable in 9.1 ..locks up sometimes in 9.2 ..will get part way through installing X10.3 So it is a lot better but not right. I have 3 theories: 1) the RAM. The original was PC-66. The new is PC-100. Maybe PC-133 would cure it?I called Crucial and they were really helpful - they have sold about 100 modules for that model and had 3% returns, they are sure it is ok. They were adamant the PC-133 would not help. 2) The CPU card 3) The Mobo So.. (sorry for the long post) WHAT DO YOU ALL THINK? Any suggestions very welcome, it is beginning to get to me! Ben -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
Thanks for the suggestions. Yes, I have a 256 MB card but it isn't low profile so it won't fit the lower RAM slot. I've had the 64 and the 128 in the lower slot with the upper one empty or containing RAM up to 256 MB. Nothing get me through the installation process of OS X above 10.0.3. The type of RAM doesn't seem to matter either: I just tested a 128 MB PC-100 stick in the lower slot without any success either so it definitely begins to look like some other problem than RAM: maybe, as you say, a faulty CPU card (cache?) Peter. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of - drive - drift - dream - Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 22:20 To: G-Books Subject: Re: iBooks booting from CD? Why do they do that to the machines? I'm buying a new computer, why can't I install whatever OS version I like on it? It's not like I'm trying to install the no longer supported OS 9 or anything. What difference would it make to them if someone wanted to run Jaguar on their machine, too? - They don't care. As far as they are concerned you can run what ever you want on your laptop. The problem lies not in your laptop but in Jaguar, or even Panther 10.3.5. Jaguar just doesn't have the drivers for your new hardware. Apple would have to go out and release a new version of Jaguar to support your new laptop. Unlike Windows which is designed to support everything under the sun (which is one of the main reasons Windows has so many problems) Mac OS is designed to support, more or less, only the Apple provided hardware available at the OSes time of release. They could take the time to make a version of Jaguar that will run on your iBook but that would take time away from updating 10.3 for new models, and the development of 10.4, and lets face it Jaguar is 2 years old now. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:19 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 8-Feb-05, at 9:03 PM, Jacob wrote: 10.3 is the minimum OS that new iBooks can run. I'm writing this on a 1GHz iBook which came with the minimum OS for this machine: 10.3.4. What app are you trying to run? Could there be an open source or shareware equivalent? It's a program in Python, PyDance. It *is* open source. But no one knows how to fix it. I don't know of any sufficiently functional equivalents. You may need to install the current Python package from macPython: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/, and IIRC there were issues with PyGame and Python 2.3.3...check the MacPython list archives at Jack's site. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Johnson Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 10:53 To: G-Books Subject: Re: iBooks booting from CD? On Feb 8, 2005, at 8:19 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: You may need to install the current Python package from macPython: http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/, and IIRC there were issues with PyGame and Python 2.3.3...check the MacPython list archives at Jack's site. --- Here is the link for a package that fixes some problems with 10.3's python. It may or may not help. http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/beta.html I will try to figure out the problem when I get back to my Mac tonight if nobody else comes up with a solution. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
Just an Update regarding my quest for a working battery: It would be helpful to others if those being difficult or providing substandard service or materials are clearly identified. What dealers did you deal with? APC was direct from them. I am waiting for return phone call. APC Returned my phone call, and is sending out a replacement battery. They are paying the shipping cost both ways. The other was from Eagle Imports Intl, 2757 So 300 West Suite # D Salt Lake City, UT 84115. This is the company that has not responded to my repeat phone calls for a RMA. Will let you know how it goes with the charge card company refunding the charge. Eagle Imports returned phone calls after 7 days. Says problems caused by move from Salt Lake City to Logan UT. Says Quest telephone company has messed up their local POTS and 800 service and their voice mail service. Also Quest provides DSL to company and that has been messed up. I was given a direct phone number to the rep I talked to, so to bypass voice mail. Eagle Imports agreed to send replacement battery. Will pick up the original battery that tested dead. Will pay for shipping cost for both batteries. I am waiting on replacement to test. If replacement battery does not work, they have agreed to take it back, pay the freight cost, and not charge a restocking fee. Eagle Imports believes that one or more cells in battery is dead. Contacted Other World Computing about their brand of batteries. They advise the following: The NewerTech batteries are not compatible with VST external charger. The VST charger's overcharge batteries. While my Wallstreet charges the Apple Brand of battery, the charge card could be weak and not work with a battery of larger capacity. Other World says the NewerTech line of battery has a low rate of return, most all problems being with a defective charger in the PowerBook or the use of an external charger. Other World answered emails promptly. Testing to be done: Will take the two problem batteries to user group meeting this thursday. One other member has Wallstreet and I will test batteries in his PowerBook. Will advise what happens. I want to get my Wallstreet working reliably. I will use it in a dirty work enviroment, and don't want to use a new PowerBook in such enviroment. I currently use a PB1400 daily at work, (it has no problems) but I would like to go to a larger screen. Is their any way to test the charge card in the Wallstreet other than replacing it with a new one? By the way. The AC power supply for the Wallstreet is a new one of the YoYo style. No problems with that. Thanks for all the suggestions I have received from you. Ken Vann == Old Mac's have new uses with WiFi. See my FAQ for what you need at http://home.earthlink.net/~kjvann/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
As mentioned, CPU L2 cache failure is apparently common on the Lombard series, and leads to all sorts of odd problems. My question is - has anyone used third party cache control software to disable a faulty cache, and did that work to get rid of the errors? Yes, I know having no L2 cache isn't the hot tip for a speedy 'Book, but the alternative is worse. Also noted, the OP was trying to install an OS from CD, so if the L2 is kaput 3rd party solutions wouldn't work in this case. dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Extraneous quoted material swamps list!
Sigh, I don't usually post about such procedural stuff as this, but here is a sincere plea to: * Peter Dijkwel [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Andrew F. [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Andrew Main [EMAIL PROTECTED] * and anyone else who won't and/or can't take a few seconds to cut useless and unneeded quoted content . . . Could youz folks _PLEASE_ cut out the quoted deadwood in your thread responses? Digest #2164 consisted almost entirely of unnecessary reposted material. Y'all certainly aren't the only offenders, but this digest had to win some sort of extraneous content award. :-P Many TIA, dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
dead HD
My 60GB not very old HD started whirring this morning and, bottom line, the computer no longer recognizes it. TechTool doesn't see it, either. I've been trying everything, and once or twice it opened up on restart and I was able to drag some files to a Compact Flash card, but when I tried to burn files to CD, halfway through it started grinding and stopped burning. Is there anything I can try? I had backed up crucial files a few days ago, but there's a lot of stuff on there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Thanks, Willi -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Initialization failed
Another problem. I have a backup Lombard (which is what the dead HD is in) but when I try to burn to CD in Toast, I keep getting initialization failed because the disk is locked. I've tried many blanks and they all do the same thing. Willi -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My 60GB not very old HD started whirring this morning and, bottom line, the computer no longer recognizes it. TechTool doesn't see it, either. I've been trying everything, and once or twice it opened up on restart and I was able to drag some files to a Compact Flash card, but when I tried to burn files to CD, halfway through it started grinding and stopped burning. Is there anything I can try? I had backed up crucial files a few days ago, but there's a lot of stuff on there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Thanks, Willi Get a copy of DiskWarrior 3.0 and try to boot from it...Run it and see if that helps...It has saved me more times than I care to remember.. Regards, Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? I have practical experience with OnTrack Data Systems out of Minnesota. I'll start with if you have to ask how much, you probably can't afford it. For 5GB of data recovered from a server hard drive, I paid about 6 grand, including diagnostic fee, and DVDs with my data on it. This was critical data for a business, so price was pretty much no object. That price was for expedited service. Hope this helps. Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Drive Savers http://www.drivesavers.com Last time we sent a drive to them they wanted $1200, iirc, for recovery of a SCSI disk. But they're good, best in the business, imo. If they can't get the data off it can't be GOT off. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar cy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Wallstreet Battery
On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Kenneth Vann wrote: Eagle Imports returned phone calls after 7 days. Says problems caused by move from Salt Lake City to Logan UT. Says Quest telephone company has messed up their local POTS and 800 service and their voice mail service. Also Quest provides DSL to company and that has been messed up. I was given a direct phone number to the rep I talked to, so to bypass voice mail. As a victim, errr, customer of Qworst, I feel their pain. We spent four months trying to get a business DSL hookup working for a satellite office to the College. Nothing but runaround and BS from Qwest. Finally we told 'em to bleep off and we got a cable connection from Cox, and it's worked flawlessly ever since. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pha rmacy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please
-Original Message- From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of The Real Seed Catalogue Sent: Tuesday, February 08, 2005 1:08 PM To: G-Books Subject: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please Hi All, some may have heard this story from other lists but now, after having used fixed almost every mac ever produced before 1999, I've met one I can't diagnose! Hoping someone here can help. We bought a Lombard 400/DVD/256/6 off ebay.. . . . Does the sound card work under any of the working systems? My wallstreet stopped making sound and at this point wouldn't boot to OS9.2, but would boot to 8.6. Replacing sound card was my answer. Good luck. spamAnd to all on the G-mail list: PC 100 SoDimm, 512 meg, In wallstreet shows 256 meg, 2 inch profile. Anyone with pismo may be able to ustilize it? I don't need and am accepting silly offers to a good home. Thanks/Spam -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
Willi Theres a good chance that it's a bad board on the drive. I've had great luck buying identical drives with known good circuit boards, and swapping the boards on the drives. Have done this 3 times now for friends with great success. Might be the next step if none of the software solutions work. Even if it doesn't work your only out a small amount and you would still have a working drive by putting the second one back together. That is if theres nothing in the original drives mechanism that caused the failure in the first place. But thats unlikely. Dean Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Drive Savers http://www.drivesavers.com Last time we sent a drive to them they wanted $1200, iirc, for recovery of a SCSI disk. But they're good, best in the business, imo. If they can't get the data off it can't be GOT off. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
OK, let try this again! Sorry for the repost but I forgot to check my clock after installing memory. Must have a bad Pram battery. Willi Theres a good chance that it's a bad board on the drive. I've had great luck buying identical drives with known good circuit boards, and swapping the boards on the drives. Have done this 3 times now for friends with great success. Might be the next step if none of the software solutions work. Even if it doesn't work your only out a small amount and you would still have a working drive by putting the second one back together. That is if theres nothing in the original drives mechanism that caused the failure in the first place. But thats unlikely. Dean Bruce Johnson wrote: On Feb 9, 2005, at 10:31 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Drive Savers http://www.drivesavers.com Last time we sent a drive to them they wanted $1200, iirc, for recovery of a SCSI disk. But they're good, best in the business, imo. If they can't get the data off it can't be GOT off. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead HD
My 60GB not very old HD started whirring this morning and, bottom line, the computer no longer recognizes it. TechTool doesn't see it, either. I've been trying everything, and once or twice it opened up on restart and I was able to drag some files to a Compact Flash card, but when I tried to burn files to CD, halfway through it started grinding and stopped burning. Is there anything I can try? I had backed up crucial files a few days ago, but there's a lot of stuff on there I want. Or can anyone recommend a retrieval company and how much does it cost? Thanks, Willi Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John -- Life is hard, harder if you're stupid! - John Wayne -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
LG/Mat DVD Swap Help Needed
Greetings 'Lista's I have just scored a Mat. drive to replace the POS LG unit in this Pismo...It is the bare drive ...What I need help with is how to get the face plate /bezel and case off the LG so I can put the Mat in and place the bezel on...The new Mat unit should fit into the LG case and be able to use the LG face plate Right??? Thanks in advance, Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On 9-Feb-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: Is there any chance the problem is due to the version of Python installed (2.2 on Jaguar, 2.3 on Panther)? In which case you might be able to fix it by downgrading your Python installation. I'm not sure, I don't know where to find a copy of Python that's that age, I tried to install the Python Kitchen Sink thing on top of the other Python installation, and that didn't work, but I don't know exactly what version it is... When I first tried this on Panther, even the Python apps that come with Panther, like PackageManager, wouldn't even run, they'd immediately crash after a dock bounce or two...I was able to dick around and finally convince PackageManager to run, and after some more stuff that hopefully didn't hurt the system, use PackageManager to download all the Pygame stuff and things that are needed for that, but it still doesn't help any with Pydance. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:27 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 9-Feb-05, at 5:12 AM, Tim Hodgson wrote: Is there any chance the problem is due to the version of Python installed (2.2 on Jaguar, 2.3 on Panther)? In which case you might be able to fix it by downgrading your Python installation. I'm not sure, I don't know where to find a copy of Python that's that age, I tried to install the Python Kitchen Sink thing on top of the other Python installation, and that didn't work, but I don't know exactly what version it is... You should get on the MacPython mailing list, they'll probably be able to help you. What it sounds like is your system is confused about libraries and suchlike...alas, this has been common with Python. However they're used to dealing with this on the mailing list. -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
Oh yeah, your problem is almost certainly fixable without re-installing your OS or trying to back down an version... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Phar macy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Satanic Lombard update
I just bought a replacement MOBO CPU. I will swap and report back. I really want to get to the bottom of this. May have a MOBO for sale then . . . Ben PS: I hadn't though about different flavours of X being the problem. Someone lent me 10.3 so that was what I tried. Anyone on list willing to lend me a copy of an earlier version to explore further? I don't have a CD burner so it would be a loan situation . . -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Satanic Lombard, cache disabling
Dan, that would be a great suggestion, if just from a diagnosis point of view. I didn't know such things existed. Any pointers to a name/source? - OS9 app , for obvious reasons. If you can point me to the SW, I will try under 9.1 9.2 and report back. Ben Subject: Re: help me diagnose The Satanic Lombard please Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:12:52 -0500 From: Dan K [EMAIL PROTECTED] Message-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] As mentioned, CPU L2 cache failure is apparently common on the Lombard series, and leads to all sorts of odd problems. My question is - has anyone used third party cache control software to disable a faulty cache, and did that work to get rid of the errors? -- The VidaVerde Seed Collection 14 Southdown Avenue, Lewes East Sussex, BN7 1EL Excellent Vegetables For the Kitchen Garden: Illustrated Catalogue at http://www.realseeds.co.uk Or call 01239 821107 for a paper copy. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On 9-Feb-05, at 11:04 AM, John C. Swanson wrote: Here is the link for a package that fixes some problems with 10.3's python. It may or may not help. http://homepages.cwi.nl/~jack/macpython/beta.html I will try to figure out the problem when I get back to my Mac tonight if nobody else comes up with a solution. Doesn't help. :-( -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On 9-Feb-05, at 4:43 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Oh yeah, your problem is almost certainly fixable without re-installing your OS or trying to back down an version... Hope so. I was talking to the pydance people and they said they haven't yet found a way to fix it, or even figure out what exactly is wrong... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: LG/Mat DVD Swap Help Needed
Mike K [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: I have just scored a Mat. drive to replace the POS LG unit in this Pismo...It is the bare drive ...What I need help with is how to get the face plate /bezel and case off the LG so I can put the Mat in and place the bezel on...The new Mat unit should fit into the LG case and be able to use the LG face plate Right??? Yes, and no. Yes, the Matsushita mechanism will fit just fine into the LG's drive sled, all such sleds are identical. No, the LG uses a different face than does the Matshita mechanism. You'll have to source an original Apple-Matshita face or use the generic face that came with your 'new' drive. On my page on such things: http://mywebpages.comcast.net/macdan/ebms.html#pismo If your 'new' drive is an original Apple mechanism, it will have a Master/Slave/CableSelect switch on it, ensure it is set to Master. If it is not an Apple drive it may be pre-set to any of those three. If not hard set as Master you probably won't be able to boot from a CD by holding the C key on startup. However, you should be able to boot from CD by pressing the option key on startup, where (if the CD is in the drive) you can choose from which device to boot. hth, dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBooks booting from CD?
On Feb 9, 2005, at 2:58 PM, - drive - drift - dream - wrote: On 9-Feb-05, at 4:43 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote: Oh yeah, your problem is almost certainly fixable without re-installing your OS or trying to back down an version... Hope so. I was talking to the pydance people and they said they haven't yet found a way to fix it, or even figure out what exactly is wrong... Then definitely get on the Python list, and have the PyDance folks get on it to...If Jack doesn't know what's going on, Guido's brother will probably chime in; Just is a big mac fan... Kinda nice to have a mailing list where the creators of the language hang out... -- Bruce Johnson University of Arizona College of Pharm acy Information Technology Group Institutions do not have opinions, merely customs -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Quicken 2005 for Mac in Canada
I would like to buy the most recent version of Quicken but it seems that in Canada, we can only get the 2004 version for Mac. However, I don't really need to import my banking data as I can input it myself. I was more interested in the budgeting and iphoto import features of 2005 for Mac. I am wondering if anybody here has the American version and what you think of it ? Besides the tax and banking stuff, do you foresee any other problems if I were to buy the newer 2005 version ? Amber -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
dead hd in freezer?
Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead hd in freezer?
Worked for me on a dead laptop hard drive! Made me a hero to the donor-I retrieved his data and burned it to a DVD and then he donated his PowerBook Lombard to my nonprofit! Love these little 'round the corner tricks! raino www.macrenewal.org From: Dylan Moore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 20:27:09 -0500 To: G-Books G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com Subject: dead hd in freezer? Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Safari lagging fixed!
Well, I managed to get the lagging issue in Safari fixed. But it's not what I did, it's what Apple did. I just downloaded and installed the newest update; 10.3.8. In .8 all program lagging is gone! My whole system seems to be running a bit faster. Not sure what they did, but it works. Thanks for all the input though, for what it's worth. Zoltan THE BLUETOOTH (and WiFi) MASTER -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead hd in freezer?
Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan Its for real. This trick supposedly goes back to the old days when 1-2 gig drives were hundreds of dollars. I've heard about it from several sources on different Mac related digests. Some people replied it worked for them. I would suspect that the freezing tightens tolerances in the bearings. They'll stay colder than the outside until the drive heats up. Hopefully lasting until you can transfer your data. John -- Be nice to your kids, for it is they who will choose your nursing home. For adult education, nothing beats children. If you have trouble getting your children's attention, just sit down and look comfortable. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead hd in freezer?
*This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* I have personally used this trick on numerous occasions and it works. I usually leave it in the freezer for an hour or two initially and then copy all I can till it stops working, then cycle in and out of the freezer at one hour intervals until I have all the data off. I recently used this trick on a 40gb drive from a Titanuium. -Scott Claiming that the Macintosh is inferior to Windows because most people use Windows is like saying that all other restaurants are inferior to McDonald's On Feb 9, 2005, at 9:21 PM, John McGibney wrote: *This message was transferred with a trial version of CommuniGate(tm) Pro* Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan Its for real. This trick supposedly goes back to the old days when 1-2 gig drives were hundreds of dollars. I've heard about it from several sources on different Mac related digests. Some people replied it worked for them. I would suspect that the freezing tightens tolerances in the bearings. They'll stay colder than the outside until the drive heats up. Hopefully lasting until you can transfer your data. John -- Be nice to your kids, for it is they who will choose your nursing home. For adult education, nothing beats children. If you have trouble getting your children's attention, just sit down and look comfortable. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: LG/Mat DVD Swap Help Needed
When I did mine, I just left the PC face on the drive because it was too much of a project to switch them and the PC face really didn't fit all that bad. Tom On 2/9/05 1:25 PM, K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings 'Lista's I have just scored a Mat. drive to replace the POS LG unit in this Pismo...It is the bare drive ...What I need help with is how to get the face plate /bezel and case off the LG so I can put the Mat in and place the bezel on...The new Mat unit should fit into the LG case and be able to use the LG face plate Right??? Thanks in advance, Mike K -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: dead had in freezer?
The National Enquirer reports at 8:27 PM -0500 2/9/05, Dylan Moore wrote: Try putting the dying hard drive into a zip-lock bag, sealing it and storing it in your freezer over night. Tomorrow remove it let it warm up. You should get an hour or more out of it so you can transfer the files to your new already installed drive. John really? thats the most bizarre fix i've ever come across, if you're being serious. what's the basic explanation for that one? *intrrigued* I mean i understand the #1 reason for HD failure is heat, but intuitively i would think it would wreak havoc with the parts to put it in the freezer. But if this is really a fix, i could see the ziplock bag being necessary- no one wants freezer burned data! ( = -dylan While we're on the truth is stranger than fiction theme. Putting a H.D. in a kitchen oven for a few minutes can also solve some problems; at least temporarily. In days gone by, in some drives, the lubrication on the platters and/or on the spindle would harden and instead of lubricating the drive's components, it caused them to stick together and kept things from spinning. That was known as stiction. Baking the drive at a low heat caused the lubrication to soften and reflow, allowing the drive to spin up again. I don't believe that newer drives have the same stiction problem. Never know what you'll learn on a Mac list, huh? :-) Bob -- If replying privately, please include my name in the To: address, so that my filters won't send your reply to the trash. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
