Re: NASTY, RUDE, B----Y feedback

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Strange - this is the rudest email I got all day!

Please, let the list mom know of any problems you are having with this 
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On May 26, 2005, at 8:35 PM, Brooke Willis • wrote:

This is unbelievable! Did all of you wake up on the wrong side of the 
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this week??? What's with all the snippy, negative commentary? I thought
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Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

[mray]

I have had my iBook for about two years now, a lot of traveling, and  
graphics/presentation (Photoshop/Illustrator/Quark/InDesgn/ 
Dreamweaver/Powerpoint) use. Up until 6 months ago it was my main  
system. Other than the Logic board problem (fixed in 4 days) haven't  
had a problem.


Great range in my older, very solid 100 year old 4 story house.  
Airport base station on the 3rd floor, and computer used it in the  
basement, on the deck and in the back yard.


My daughter has adopted it now, surfs, instant messages and writes  
what seems like almost non-stop.


Really like the 'book.

mr

On May 26, 2005, at 8:54 PM, Tom Ethen wrote:

They were and are an inexpensive way to take you computer on the  
road even
with all their issues. My iBook 600 has far more Airport range than  
my new

Powerbook does with its Airport Extreme card in it.

I have little invested in it, so if it breaks I am not out much and  
it plays

DVD and writes CD's, with a four hour battery time.

I like mine!

Tom

On 5/26/05 1:14 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


I thought that model sucked.  Lousy video chip engineering wherein  
the chip
unseats, horrible hinge design constantly slicing ground, power  
and video
cables inside, cheap keyboard prone to breaking keys, and on and  
on.  I know

the sycophants will flame me but...whatever.





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Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

[Tom Ethen]

They were and are an inexpensive way to take you computer on the road even
with all their issues. My iBook 600 has far more Airport range than my new
Powerbook does with its Airport Extreme card in it.

I have little invested in it, so if it breaks I am not out much and it plays
DVD and writes CD's, with a four hour battery time.

I like mine!

Tom

On 5/26/05 1:14 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I thought that model sucked.  Lousy video chip engineering wherein the chip
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Re: Dead Wallstreet

[David Lesher]

What's the possible causes --- the power regulator board?


Possible, have you tried resetting the power manager?




Good call... I'd tried this once to no avail but the 2nd shot was a winner

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Re: NASTY, RUDE, BITCHY feedback

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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Clark Martin]

At 3:15 PM -0700 5/26/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Shoot, I mistyped-I meant to type "photon". There is radioactive photon
waves shooting out of the electron guns. The lead is embedded in the glass
to protect you from the photons. Any magnetic field is radioactive. CRTs
also have lead in the soldering, the capacitors, and often lead is sprayed
on the boards as a fire retardant.



Time to head back to physics class but stay awake this time.

No, magnetic fields are not radioactive.

Yes there is lead in the solder (although it's been / being replaced).

There may be some small amount in the caps but not much.  It isn't 
sprayed on the boards, that would be nuts.


While current theory says that light exists both as a wave and a 
particle you usually refer to it as one or the other, not both as in 
"photon waves".  In any event they don't come out of the electron 
gun(s) but from the screen when the electron strikes the screen.



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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Clark Martin]

At 4:23 PM -0400 5/26/05, David Lesher wrote:

On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!


We hope, at least!

The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams.


Well, actually the X-ray E-field radiation, not H fields, but Our 
Buddy Mr. Maxwell explained all that, right? [As I wrap my right 
hand.. http://www.innopro.de/maxwell_hands_all.htm]


Well, actually E-M radiation.  It's caused by electrons above some 
voltage hitting a ground potential giving up their energy in the form 
of X-Rays.  Medical diagnostic X-Rays are somewhere around 100KV. 
Theraputic X-Rays run from 4 to 30 MV and require a radio-isotope or 
particle accelerator.  Been there, done that.



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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Clark Martin]

At 2:31 PM -0500 5/26/05, Rick McCutcheon wrote:

On 26-May-05, at 1:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!

The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams.




as I've always understood,

but if the lead is there to shield us from the "magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams" then I take it they're not very good for 
us either...


a good reason to have LCD screens?  Are there similar problems there 
that I need to know about too?  I've always assumed it was one of 
the key selling features (besides obvious size / weight issues).


Power consumption also.  LCDs only use a fraction of the power of the 
same sized CRT.




And, not to lose the main point, approx. 7.5 pounds of lead per 
monitor means there is a lot of lead going into landfill sites!


I don't know of anything in an LCD display that is nearly as bad as 
the lead.  I don't think there is anything.  No one really seemed to 
care about what was in a CRT monitor until LCDs provided an 
alternative.


We may not find out until a next generation display technology arrives.
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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Clark Martin]

At 11:24 AM -0700 5/26/05, Bruce Johnson wrote:

On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!


Well there are but only the naturally occurring ones.



The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams.


Lead doesn't shield magnetic fields.  The lead does shield 
(partially) the artificial radiation produced by a 10-25KV electron 
beam hitting the screen.


Besides the lead is inside the sweep coils, kind of hard to shield 
something that way.

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Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

[Ruffin Bailey]

> I thought that model sucked.  Lousy video chip engineering wherein the chip
> unseats, horrible hinge design constantly slicing ground, power and video
> cables inside, cheap keyboard prone to breaking keys, and on and on.  I know
> the sycophants will flame me but...whatever.

I was planning on eBaying my 500 G3 iBook for quite some time and have even 
replaced it with a 1.2 G4 iBook with 1.25 gigs of RAM, but can't find it in me 
to get rid of the beast.  The 500 really is a great machine in many ways, runs 
Tiger almost acceptably (if you use Safari and not Firefox or the like), and is 
superior to my G4 iBook in two ways:

1.)  Awfully easy to display Powerpoints/presentations on TV.  One A/V cord and 
you're rolling.
2.)  Doesn't bend.  Had to trade in my first G4 iBook because it became bent 
just lugging it in my laptop case around campus.  Warped so that it wouldn't 
sit straight and then started locking up.  Nice.  I'm overly careful with its 
replacement, but it bends like putty if you're not careful too.

At the same time, I've considered pitching the 500 to LEM as a Road Apple.  
Why?  The main gripe is that Road Apples are supposed to be examples of 
machines hobbled with no good reason for the hobbling -- like the ADB-less 
Powerbook 150 that's otherwise a good machine.  The first few iBook dual USBs 
can't, even with the firmware hack, span monitors.  Makes the iBook a true 
roadie-only.  My G4 right now is putting out 1280x1024 on an external and 
1024x768 on its on screen.  *Very* nice.  1024x768 is great for an entry-level 
'book, but isn't enough real estate to make me as productive as I could be when 
in the office.

There really isn't any reason any iBook shouldn't be displaying on two 
monitors, or at least allowing for a larger "virtual desktop" and higher 
resolutions on externals if mirroring.  This would make the iBook a real 
desktop replacement.

The fact that 500s can't do it even with a hack drives me crazy.  Add to that 
that the 500 really isn't *quite* fast enough to run OS X and sure as heck 
ain't doing iMovie and iDVD worth much and, well, I think you have a decent 
Road Apple case.  (Yes, I realize Apple is trying to sell Powerbooks, etc, but 
the hobbling is what drives me mad.)

/rant

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Backup/archiving app., OS 10.3.8 compatible needed. . .

[Stanton Mitrany]

Please suggest an OS X 10.3.8 compatible backup application that's free or
inexpensive shareware which I can use to copy (burn) a large (5 GB) folder
to multiple 700MB CD-R's in the internal combo drive in an iBook 500.

I need to reformat the Hard Drive, which currently has only one partition,
and is only set up with OS 10.3.8, into two partitions, so that I can
install both OS 9.2.2 and OS 10.3.8 separately. I don't wish to manually
break up this folder to archive it. I'm hoping your suggestion can help me
to reinstall it onto the iBook once I've reformatted and installed OS 9 & OS
X.

My copy of Retrospect Express v.4.3 won't work in OS X. I'm looking for
something which, like Retrospect, can produce a series of linked CD's to
archive something larger than 700 MB.

I'm looking to be able to download the application you suggest, and get to
work. What do you suggest?

Thanks,
stanton


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Warning - .Mac Mail

[Stuart Saunders]

Listas,
	Just like to suggest that you check your mail account regularly if you 
use .Mac mail; while they are generous, (let my total get up to 130 
megs out of 100 set!) before they started bouncing, there was no 
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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Pauline Turtle-Bear Guillermo]

On May 26, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Rick McCutcheon wrote:

Hear, hear!  This whole subject niggles at me constantly.  I've got a 
lovely old monochrome portrait monitor that I used for a long time 
with a IIci because I love to see a whole page up on the screen.  I've 
still got it packed away, moved it across the continent a couple of 
times (with my wife smiling as I lug it to the truck because I don't 
want it banged, even though it now has a crack in one corner of the 
front bezel) but I'll never use it again.  I just can't bear to throw 
it away.  Maybe I should have it put in the casket with me?


For those who don't know it, this organization is worth knowing about:

http://www.lanecrrc.org/about/macrenewal.php

Rick



Good old Eugene, Oregon! May many local organizations grow!

We here in Albuquerque (home of Sandia National Labs and not too far 
from Los Alamos National Labs) had our very first computer equipment 
drop off day this past fall. Our Mayor, Martin Chavez donned his gloves 
and pitched in that day, hauling computers from cars, vans, SUVs and 
pickups. My household unloaded a ton of CRTs, non-working and geriatric 
computers and peripherals that day! And the city filled three 
18-wheeler-sized truck trailers!


Turtle-Bear


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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 2:26 PM, Rick McCutcheon wrote:


Okay, that's cool, and that's interesting.  So, is there anything  
bad for humans that comes out of CRT monitors?


razor sharp glass shards, poisonous phosphorus compounds, toxic heavy  
metals, Fox News, Microsoft Windows...the list goes on and on!



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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Shoot, I mistyped-I meant to type "photon". There is radioactive photon
waves shooting out of the electron guns. The lead is embedded in the glass
to protect you from the photons. Any magnetic field is radioactive. CRTs
also have lead in the soldering, the capacitors, and often lead is sprayed
on the boards as a fire retardant.

LCDs have there own issues, one being the mercury contained in the
backlight. 
raino

On 5/26/05 12:31 PM, "Rick McCutcheon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On 26-May-05, at 1:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>> 
>>> CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
>>> (protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).
>> 
>> There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!
>> 
>> The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields
>> moving the electron beams.
>> 
> 
> as I've always understood,
> 
> but if the lead is there to shield us from the "magnetic fields moving
> the electron beams" then I take it they're not very good for us
> either...
> 
> a good reason to have LCD screens?  Are there similar problems there
> that I need to know about too?  I've always assumed it was one of the
> key selling features (besides obvious size / weight issues).
> 
> And, not to lose the main point, approx. 7.5 pounds of lead per monitor
> means there is a lot of lead going into landfill sites!
> 
> Rick
> 



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Re: Dead Wallstreet

[Tom and Lisa P]

Sigh; the wallstreet I use around the office has died. It was 
plugged in and the next day, the battery was dead and it won't 
charge or start. It's not the power adapter; I tested it and tried 
another...


What's the possible causes --- the power regulator board?


Does the AC jack wobble a bit, indicating a loose solder joint ? 
Have you tried reseating the CPU ?


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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Rick McCutcheon]

On 26-May-05, at 4:14 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On May 26, 2005, at 12:31 PM, Rick McCutcheon wrote:


as I've always understood,

but if the lead is there to shield us from the "magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams" then I take it they're not very good for 
us either...




No they're there to prevent the magnetic fields from affecting other 
nearby electronics devices, and vice versa. It's not shielding us, but 
the image on the screen. Stick a magnet up to the screen of a CRT and 
see why (press the degauss button afterwards...)


Same reason all those metal bits are inside the case lining your 
laptop.



Okay, that's cool, and that's interesting.  So, is there anything bad 
for humans that comes out of CRT monitors?


Rick


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 12:21 PM, Larry le Mac wrote:

However, it's been fine ever since...
---


Remotely it could be a power manager board issue.
Have you reset the Power Manager per Apple's KB article?



I typed reset-all in Open Firmware...

That's the same isn't it ?!



No. The power manager's a separate bit of electronics:

 

But the point's moot since you seem to have got it working. If reset- 
all did it, it was confused sleep settings in NVRAM.


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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 12:31 PM, Rick McCutcheon wrote:


as I've always understood,

but if the lead is there to shield us from the "magnetic fields  
moving the electron beams" then I take it they're not very good for  
us either...




No they're there to prevent the magnetic fields from affecting other  
nearby electronics devices, and vice versa. It's not shielding us,  
but the image on the screen. Stick a magnet up to the screen of a CRT  
and see why (press the degauss button afterwards...)


Same reason all those metal bits are inside the case lining your laptop.

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Re: TiBook power adapter problem ???

[Anne Judge]

John McGibney <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My TiBook adapter failed where the line went into the plug for the
> book. The strain relief/flex covering isn't strong enough so it
> cracks and lets the wire flex at a right angle. Eventually the
> shield cracks and power is lost. The AlBooks have a heavier gauge
> wire and stiffer covering at the plug.

My original 17" AlBook is going this way for the 2nd time - the cable
cover of the line from computer-end plug to adapter has pulled away
from the plug so you can see the 2 inner wires.  I've got it wrapped
in electrical tape to hold it for a while.

Anne

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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[David Lesher]

On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!


We hope, at least!


The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams.


Well, actually the X-ray E-field radiation, not H fields, but Our 
Buddy Mr. Maxwell explained all that, right? [As I wrap my right 
hand.. http://www.innopro.de/maxwell_hands_all.htm]


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Re: busted iBook

[Russell Kerstetter]

um, no.  after talking about this with my wife (whose puter it was
until I broke it) we (she) has decided that due to certain factors: 1)
it will most likely be an unstable at best system once fixed, 2) it
will cost around $100 just to find out, and 3) will will have to spend
another $100 to get Jaguar, we are going to go on ahead and buy a new
one.  and not drop it this time.

But if there is anyone interested in buying a scrap iBook for
parts, like a working display, let me know.  I also have the airport
card that I will be selling seperatly if you need that too.

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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Rick McCutcheon]

On 26-May-05, at 1:24 PM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!

The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields 
moving the electron beams.




as I've always understood,

but if the lead is there to shield us from the "magnetic fields moving 
the electron beams" then I take it they're not very good for us 
either...


a good reason to have LCD screens?  Are there similar problems there 
that I need to know about too?  I've always assumed it was one of the 
key selling features (besides obvious size / weight issues).


And, not to lose the main point, approx. 7.5 pounds of lead per monitor 
means there is a lot of lead going into landfill sites!


Rick


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Re: TiBook power adapter problem (update)

[Larry le Mac]

From: Bruce Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>



If it's only when it goes to sleep, it's a software issue;
possibly a  firmware one, if they released a firmware
update for the TiBook.


I downloaded the 4.1.8 firmware update but it told me
the PowerBook was already updated.

However, it's been fine ever since...
---

Remotely it could be a power manager board issue.
Have you reset the Power Manager per Apple's KB article?


I typed reset-all in Open Firmware...

That's the same isn't it ?!


Larry

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Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

[Adam Thayer]

Here is the weird thing... I have seen the key problem (which exists on
pretty much every Apple laptop between 1999 through the last couple years),
I have seen an airport antenna sliced, but haven't seen the video chip
unseating. Of course, it seems like the flaw for the video chip occurred in
rev B iceBooks and later. The very annoying thing about the iBook G3 line is
that every single rev has some sort of major design flaw, but they never
shared the same one very often. I personally don't count the key issue as a
major flaw, because I have seen one key break (which was replaced for free),
which was on a 3-4 year old iceBook with literally more use than many home
desktop machines (4-5 hours a day usage).

-Original Message-
From: G-Books [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2005 11:14 AM
To: G-Books
Subject: Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

I thought that model sucked.  Lousy video chip engineering wherein the chip
unseats, horrible hinge design constantly slicing ground, power and video
cables inside, cheap keyboard prone to breaking keys, and on and on.  I know
the sycophants will flame me but...whatever.

> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:26:08 -0400
> Subject: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK
> From: bobgir2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Folks at MyMac.com had nice things to say about the G3 Dual-USB iBook,
> noting that...
> 
> ...when it comes to balancing performance, looks, and price, my vote goes
to
> the dual-USB G3 iBook, perhaps the first Mac portable to bring all the
joys
> of mobile computing to the masses without having to make any serious
> compromises.
> 
> You can read the full article at:
> 
> http://www.mymac.com/showarticle.php?id=2015


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Re: Dead Wallstreet

[Gene Osburn]

Sigh; the wallstreet I use around the office has died. It was plugged
in and the next day, the battery was dead and it won't charge or
start. It's not the power adapter; I tested it and tried another...

What's the possible causes --- the power regulator board?


First thing to try is PMU reset.  Hold down fn+control+shift+power keys 
- should get some response/flash from green sleep light.  Release the 
keys, wait 5 seconds then press power key.  Fixes a lot of mysterious 
problems.



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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 10:40 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes).


There are NO radioactive isotopes in CRT's!

The lead is there to provide shielding to/from the magnetic fields  
moving the electron beams.


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Re: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK

[illovox]

I thought that model sucked.  Lousy video chip engineering wherein the chip
unseats, horrible hinge design constantly slicing ground, power and video
cables inside, cheap keyboard prone to breaking keys, and on and on.  I know
the sycophants will flame me but...whatever.

> Date: Wed, 25 May 2005 22:26:08 -0400
> Subject: Praise for Dual-USB IBOOK
> From: bobgir2004 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Message-ID: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> 
> Folks at MyMac.com had nice things to say about the G3 Dual-USB iBook,
> noting that...
> 
> ...when it comes to balancing performance, looks, and price, my vote goes to
> the dual-USB G3 iBook, perhaps the first Mac portable to bring all the joys
> of mobile computing to the masses without having to make any serious
> compromises.
> 
> You can read the full article at:
> 
> http://www.mymac.com/showarticle.php?id=2015


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Re: Another Opinion wanted

[Tom Peterson]

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Subject: Re: Another Opinion wanted

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:
> >
> 1024x780>thousands. I don't have the "option" in display prefs for
> "millions" at 800x600.


Really?  2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600.  I use to run my
7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some
pics
I would switch to 800 at millions.  Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then
I was 1024 the whole time at millions.

If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you
the option for millions at 800?

No dice! In x 10.3.9 with patched rage pro drivers the only options are
thousands or 256 at1024x780.


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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Hi Laurent,
CRTs are nasty items. An average 17" monitor holds 7.5 pounds of lead
(protecting you from those radioactive isotopes). In your CRT computer
monitor there is also phosphorous, cadmium, barium and mercury. As a
product, these hazardous materials are safely sealed. (The lead is imbedded
in the glass, for instance).

However, when the monitor is sent to a landfill, heavy equipment is used to
compact the waste. This crushing and smashing of the waste causes the
hazardous materials to be released and a leaching process can occur as a
result of CRT breakage. These toxic materials will probably find their way
into our water supply. When the glass is crushed by trash facilities, the
lead-bearing particles and phosphors become an airborne hazard.

Some states have banned CRT disposal in landfills. Here in Oregon, we have
an "interim policy", meaning, folks are discouraged from dumping monitors.
Our nonprofit takes in 20-100 monitors a week. We gift working monitors with
the computers we give away, we sell some in our thrift store, and we recycle
the monitors that are too small, to old, or broken. Besides our rent of
$4500.00 a month, monitor recycling fees are our biggest expense. We are
committed to not dumping in international back yards-a VERY big nasty secret
within the recycling industry.

Because we specialize in Macintosh, we are faced with an additional problem.
Apple manufactures the wonderful "all in one" (AIO) computer. Monitor
recyclers will not accept AIOs (more hardware to deal with, more screws in
the take apart). Unless we are willing to pay $20.00 a piece to recycle the
AIOs we are stuck with 00s and 100s of nonplacable machines. So, we have
started a program were we dismantle the AIOs and recycle the bare CRTs. This
lowers our cost and makes it possible to continue to work with schools (the
biggest generator of AIO waste because they are the biggest buyer of them).

I am delighted you are considering the impact of the dead monitor on your
environment. Apple recently got some VERY bad press for not designing their
products for recycability. Panasonic is really moving on this, so are a few
big manufacturers. 

If you recycle your monitor with a responsible nonprofit or for-profit
business, you can know that the material won't be dumped in other countries
and the material will be reused. Lead from monitors is used to make new
batteries, the glass may be used for road surfaces, the plastic may be used
in your car dashboard, or new computer plastics, or maybe that new Barbie
doll in the shop window.

LEM list members ship us their monitors on a regular basis. If you ship,
remember to include the $15.00 handling fee (whether the monitor works or
not).

raino

On 5/26/05 8:47 AM, "Laurent Daudelin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Not really on topic, but since I didn't have any other place to ask...
> 
> I have my Apple Studio Display 17 that stopped displaying a picture last
> week. I did replace it with a 19" LCD display, so I'm not really trying to
> repair it.
> 
> However, I already had an Apple Studio Display 21 that stopped working last
> year. So, I have 2 of those big CRTs taking space and I was wondering what
> to do with them. I'm pretty sure that the problem is with the power supply
> and somebody more experienced with televisions and CRTs might be able to
> repair them.
> 
> I'm not looking to repair them, just to get rid of them. I was thinking that
> I could maybe offer them on the LEM-Swap list.
> 
> Any suggestion?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> -Laurent.



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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Rick McCutcheon]

On 26-May-05, at 11:15 AM, Bruce Johnson wrote:



On May 26, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


Not really on topic, but since I didn't have any other place to ask...

I have my Apple Studio Display 17 that stopped displaying a picture 
last
week. I did replace it with a 19" LCD display, so I'm not really 
trying to

repair it.

However, I already had an Apple Studio Display 21 that stopped 
working last
year. So, I have 2 of those big CRTs taking space and I was wondering 
what
to do with them. I'm pretty sure that the problem is with the power 
supply
and somebody more experienced with televisions and CRTs might be able 
to

repair them.

I'm not looking to repair them, just to get rid of them. I was 
thinking that

I could maybe offer them on the LEM-Swap list.



Probably not worth it. Even repaired, they're not worth the cost of 
shipping them; perhaps you can find a home for them locally. But 
there's a huge glut of CRT's out there.


We have two different charitable organizations here that refurb 
computers; both are now telling people they no longer accept CRT 
monitors unless they're coming with the whole computer, and if they 
could just have the computer, pretty please...


This is a serious problem, these things are toxic in landfills and 
very expensive to recycle.


If you have a local freecycle group  you 
might get someone to take it off your hands...


--
Bruce Johnson




Hear, hear!  This whole subject niggles at me constantly.  I've got a 
lovely old monochrome portrait monitor that I used for a long time with 
a IIci because I love to see a whole page up on the screen.  I've still 
got it packed away, moved it across the continent a couple of times 
(with my wife smiling as I lug it to the truck because I don't want it 
banged, even though it now has a crack in one corner of the front 
bezel) but I'll never use it again.  I just can't bear to throw it 
away.  Maybe I should have it put in the casket with me?


For those who don't know it, this organization is worth knowing about:

http://www.lanecrrc.org/about/macrenewal.php

Rick


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Re: Burning CD's with Disk burn

[Malcolm Cornelius]

>>> I have a Wallstreet 300 Mhz running OS X 10.1.5.
> 
>> The 300MHz is not a Wallstreet but a "PDQ"

> what's a "PDQ"?

A Revision 2 Wallstreet ...

It was the code name and IIRC it was Pretty Damn Quick.

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Re: Dead Wallstreet

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 9:20 AM, David Lesher wrote:

Sigh; the wallstreet I use around the office has died. It was  
plugged in and the next day, the battery was dead and it won't  
charge or start. It's not the power adapter; I tested it and tried  
another...


What's the possible causes --- the power regulator board?


Possible, have you tried resetting the power manager? It could also  
be a dead PRAM battery.


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Re: Need tips for using PowerBook as desktop system

[Steve Fuller]

On May 25, 2005, at 5:36 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I noticed a good deal on a 20" Dell LCD with all those  
connections ...  I am SO tempted, and like your marker cover-up  
plan.  Does yours have built-in USB hub, too?  ... Is Dell the only  
one making something like this? ... anyone know?


There are a couple of USB ports on the back of the LCD so that you  
could hook in a usb peripheral or two of your choice. The only other  
display like this that I have seen is the HP 23" LCD. It's basically  
the same thing, but slightly larger, and it has component video  
input, as well as svideo, DVI, and VGA.


Steve

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Dead Wallstreet

[David Lesher]

Sigh; the wallstreet I use around the office has died. It was plugged 
in and the next day, the battery was dead and it won't charge or 
start. It's not the power adapter; I tested it and tried another...


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Re: DVD studio Pro 4 on G4 PB/OT

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 9:07 AM, Amber wrote:

I am seriously contemplating purchasing DVD SP 4 but would really  
appreciate some feedback before doing so.


1.  I am currently using a 1.25 AL PB (512 MB RAM).  It does meet  
the minimum requirements for this software but I am wondering if  
anybody else here has tried running this software with a similar  
set-up and if so, what was your experience ?  Manageable or  
incredibly slow and tedious ?


Quite manageable, better if you kick it up to a gig of ram.



2. Are there any alternatives to DVD SP 4 that are worth  
considering ?  I am basically needing to create DVD's for small  
companies and for obvious reasons, cannot use iDVD.  I need to be  
able to create custom backgrounds, incorporating logos etc, and  
appropriate menus.


There's a OSS program called Sizzle  that lets you do this.




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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Bruce Johnson]

On May 26, 2005, at 8:47 AM, Laurent Daudelin wrote:


Not really on topic, but since I didn't have any other place to ask...

I have my Apple Studio Display 17 that stopped displaying a picture  
last
week. I did replace it with a 19" LCD display, so I'm not really  
trying to

repair it.

However, I already had an Apple Studio Display 21 that stopped  
working last
year. So, I have 2 of those big CRTs taking space and I was  
wondering what
to do with them. I'm pretty sure that the problem is with the power  
supply
and somebody more experienced with televisions and CRTs might be  
able to

repair them.

I'm not looking to repair them, just to get rid of them. I was  
thinking that

I could maybe offer them on the LEM-Swap list.



Probably not worth it. Even repaired, they're not worth the cost of  
shipping them; perhaps you can find a home for them locally. But  
there's a huge glut of CRT's out there.


We have two different charitable organizations here that refurb  
computers; both are now telling people they no longer accept CRT  
monitors unless they're coming with the whole computer, and if they  
could just have the computer, pretty please...


This is a serious problem, these things are toxic in landfills and  
very expensive to recycle.


If you have a local freecycle group  you  
might get someone to take it off your hands...


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Re: [OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[David Lesher]

I'm not looking to repair them, just to get rid of them. I was thinking that
I could maybe offer them on the LEM-Swap list.


Many communities offer computer recycling drop-offs. It pains me to 
trash hardware, but CRT's are esp. dicey to fix and there is no 
market for them used. 



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DVD studio Pro 4 on G4 PB/OT

[Amber]

I am seriously contemplating purchasing DVD SP 4 but would really  
appreciate some feedback before doing so.


1.  I am currently using a 1.25 AL PB (512 MB RAM).  It does meet the  
minimum requirements for this software but I am wondering if anybody  
else here has tried running this software with a similar set-up and  
if so, what was your experience ?  Manageable or incredibly slow and  
tedious ?


2. Are there any alternatives to DVD SP 4 that are worth  
considering ?  I am basically needing to create DVD's for small  
companies and for obvious reasons, cannot use iDVD.  I need to be  
able to create custom backgrounds, incorporating logos etc, and  
appropriate menus.


Any suggestions would be much appreciated !

Thanks,

Amber

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[OT] What to do with old CRTs?

[Laurent Daudelin]

Not really on topic, but since I didn't have any other place to ask...

I have my Apple Studio Display 17 that stopped displaying a picture last
week. I did replace it with a 19" LCD display, so I'm not really trying to
repair it.

However, I already had an Apple Studio Display 21 that stopped working last
year. So, I have 2 of those big CRTs taking space and I was wondering what
to do with them. I'm pretty sure that the problem is with the power supply
and somebody more experienced with televisions and CRTs might be able to
repair them.

I'm not looking to repair them, just to get rid of them. I was thinking that
I could maybe offer them on the LEM-Swap list.

Any suggestion?

Thanks!

-Laurent.
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Re: Another Opinion wanted

[Nick Marshall]

On Wed, 25 May 2005, Tom Peterson wrote:
> >
> 1024x780>thousands. I don't have the "option" in display prefs for
> "millions" at 800x600.


Really?  2MB of vram should give you millions at 800x600.  I use to run my
7300 at 1024 at thousands 99% of the time and when I needed to edit some pics
I would switch to 800 at millions.  Then I got the 2MB vram upgrade and then
I was 1024 the whole time at millions.

If you hold down the option key and select the color prefs does it give you
the option for millions at 800?

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Re: Need tips for using PowerBook as desktop system

[Francesco sciacca]

> >Your almost right, I am using an old VCR for the tuner, however it runs
> >into the Dell 2005FPW 20 inch screen not the PowerBook. The Dell
> >Screen has VGA, DVI and a S plug, you can switch between them using
> >a switch on the front of the display and you can also see TV using it's
> >built in P in P. I have my old PowerBook hooked into the VGA and a
> >Mac Mini hooked into the DVI. The Dell screen looks as good as my
> >partners 20 inch Apple display, but it has more functions. The only
> >thing
> >I hate about it is it says Dell on the front in Silver letters, so I
> >took a Black
> >magic marker and made that black.
> 
> I noticed a good deal on a 20" Dell LCD with all those connections ...  
> I am SO tempted, and like your marker cover-up plan.  Does yours have 
> built-in USB hub, too?  ... Is Dell the only one making something like 
> this? ... anyone know?

it has a 4-way hub (2 at the back, 2 at the side). This link could be of
interest to those on the market for a WS 20" flat panel for their "PB at the
desk setup":


I was considering the 20" cinema display, but the Dell is a cheapo, here in
the UK at 399 GBP shipped vs 472 (with edu discount) for the cinema display.
Also with the Dell I could hook both the PB G4 and G3... and the VCR. Tough
choice...

cheers, gianfranco



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Re: place to replace aluminum panels onsite...

[Nima]

 If you don't think the scratch is biggie, perhaps you can talk them  
into giving you some cash for the damage and you can go on your merry  
way... That would be something I would look into.



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On May 26, 2005, at 1:32, Jason wrote:

I just got my powerbook back from its second trip to texas for  
work, and they scratched up the top panel of my powerbook. No  
biggie, they will replace it, but, unless i want to send it back to  
texas AGAIN, I need to find a place with a certified tech to  
replace the panel  I went to the local store, and for that kind  
of work, they ship it to texas.. id rather not have it gone another  
week... any thoughts? I live in central cali, and the nearest  
"Apple" store is about an hour.. think they can do it? The local  
place here said they could over the phone, only when i got there  
did the story change...


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Re: place to replace aluminum panels onsite...

[Tom Ethen]

When I was at the Apple Store for a problem (it is 85 miles away) a AlBook
came in for a customer that had the top replaced and it had a plastic sheet
stuck to it for protection during shipping. I would think the Apple Store is
your best bet for the best service, even though the drive is a pain.

By the way the Genius Bar diagnosed the problem in about five minutes that I
had spent at least five hours on the phone with Applecare for with no
success.

Tom

On 5/26/05 1:32 AM, "Jason" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just got my powerbook back from its second trip to texas for work,
> and they scratched up the top panel of my powerbook. No biggie, they
> will replace it, but, unless i want to send it back to texas AGAIN, I
> need to find a place with a certified tech to replace the panel
> I went to the local store, and for that kind of work, they ship it to
> texas.. id rather not have it gone another week... any thoughts? I
> live in central cali, and the nearest "Apple" store is about an
> hour.. think they can do it? The local place here said they could
> over the phone, only when i got there did the story change...


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