Re: iBook as Desktop
On 14 Feb 2006, at 10:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Yes to all. I used a 15-inch Al PB as a desktop machine and was happy with the result. I put the book on the far side of the desk on a stand higher than the desktop so that it was at eye level. I used Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It worked very well. Sometimes the small screen would create limitations, especially when trying to use more than one program at a time. Otherwise it worked great. Peter -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
I used a 15-inch Al PB as a desktop machine and was happy with the result. I put the book on the far side of the desk on a stand higher than the desktop so that it was at eye level. I used Bluetooth mouse and keyboard. It worked very well. Sometimes the small screen would create limitations, especially when trying to use more than one program at a time. Otherwise it worked great. That's my only problem that I've run into when using my Lombard as a desktop, as well. Of course, I've got a 17 LCD monitor that I can pull from my PC desktop for those times. Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
I gave up on my little old i-Mac and am now using my Powerbook (15 inch screen) as my desktop computer. I should have done it long ago. Working in the OSX Tiger environment is a real improvement that I was missing. I've imported my address book and put them into folders. I'm still in a learning curve here but it's getting better. Of course I'd love to have a brand new fancy desktop I-mac, But why invest in it when I've got a laptop. Woody __ Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/DancePics/Triplets.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Recent.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 17, 2006, at 11:59 PM, Concetta Z wrote: (I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook, and when I have an extra $100 I'll upgrade the eMac to Tiger) Thanks for any input. Concetta I've upgraded my BW (G4/450) and iBook (G3/500) from 4.3 to 4.4 to 4.5 and have had no problems at all. Hey, all, thanks I received a couple of posts encouraging me to go ahead and upgrade from 10.4.2 to 10.4.5. So I'm going to take the plunge... Thanks for giving me courage... Concetta I have only gotten into trouble *once* updating one of the Macs at the school (of about 35-40), and that once was easily fixed (an AR of 10.2 followed by re-applying the update, whole process took about 35 minutes). I could have fixed even quicker had there been another account to log onto on the machine. The only upgrade that has ever been a serious problem was 10.3 and the Great Firewire Drive Massacre. Now, if you go to Macintouch or Macfixit along about update time, you would believe that every software update Apple has ever issued has been fraught with horrible, data-eating, computer-killing monster bugs. Some people have their ritual Boot from the CD, run Disk Repair, reboot, run Permissions repair, reboot in Safe mode, run the update whilst shaking a rattle and chicken feathers over the keyboard to ensure a successful update. Me, I fire up Software Update, then put it in the back and keep on working usually on fifteen things at once. I have, to my knowledge, never run Permissions Repair on my systems, Disk Repair (on my boot drive) only once (and the problem was something else entirely) and the only time I've ever had a problem was when I tried to install Tiger via a DVD drive in what turned out to be a flaky external firewire enclosure. Took me a day to recover from that one, because I ended up manually restoring my home folder, amid a number of permissions issues. However, I ALWAYS do an upgrade (10.3.x to 10.4.x) via Archive and Re- install, most people I've ever seen who had problems have gone the Upgrade route. As I said, updates (10.4.4 to 10.4.5) I usually run while I'm doing other things. Of all my systems only one isn't a complete frankenmac: my Pismo laptop, and IT has a slot loading DVD/CDRW transplanted from a defunct TiBook. I attribute my good luck to three things: 1) Clean Living...I rarely put tequila on my Cheerios anymore. 2) Plenty of Exercise...they won't let me put the coffeepot in the office, so I have to walk ALL the way down the hall. 3) I have Backups of my Stuff. Irreplaceable files, such as iPhoto Libraries, and iTunes purchases are backed up on multiple CD or DVD disks, stored in different locations, and I have an external FW drive that I back up my home directories to on a regular basis. There's also a bootable system installed on that drive, so in an emergency I can start up my systems from it as well. 4) All my Desktop systems are on uninterruptible power supplies, all from APC http://www.apc.com/. They deliver clean, regulated power to the computer, which helps ensure the best performance and longest life for the electronic components. I don't get the oddball component failures and suchlike that are common on these lists. Since laptops are powered through adapters, and have batteries, this is less important for them, because much of the regulating is done automatically. There are other brands than APC, but we use them exclusively at work (counting the systems under people's desks we've probably got a couple of hundred of 'em) and are very pleased. Of my rules, I suspect #3 is the most important, followed by #4. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
I use a 15 Powerbook with iCurve and an external Dell LCD. There is a hack out there which will allow some iBooks to use monitor spanning (2 separate screens) as opposed to mirroring (2 identical screens). You will love the extra workspace when you are home. I use a 21 at home which lets me watch TV using picture in picture. At work I have a 17... No TV though :-/ I also have an external keyboard for both (Apple Wired at work and Wireless at home) and mouse. TjL -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook as Desktop
(I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook, and when I have an extra $100 I'll upgrade the eMac to Tiger) Thanks for any input. Concetta I've upgraded my BW (G4/450) and iBook (G3/500) from 4.3 to 4.4 to 4.5 and have had no problems at all. Hey, all, thanks I received a couple of posts encouraging me to go ahead and upgrade from 10.4.2 to 10.4.5. So I'm going to take the plunge... Thanks for giving me courage... Concetta -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 16, 2006, at 2:05 AM, Concetta Z wrote: Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? --- I've been using my 15 Ti-book hooked up to a 22 Cinema Display, a 160 GB Firewire drive and a Wacom Tablet, as a desktop machine for about 2 years now. Works great for me. I haven't bothered to attach an external keyboard since my need for an extended keyboard with foreign alphabet capacity is taken care of by an older desktop machine for those rare times. -- dan_A -- === Out of the darkest reaches of NYC -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 16, 2006, at 12:05 AM, Concetta Z wrote: I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook Do it. Those have been pretty trouble-free updates so far. -- Bruce Johnson No matter where you go, there you are, B. Banzai -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
on 16/02/06 02:05, Concetta Z at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? I used to use an eMac and an iBook and keep them synchronized. Hey, that's my setup. I'm having a little problem synching the two. How did you do it? I would like a fast, easy, cheap way to sync my iBook to my eMac. Just update the files that have been added or changed (documents, iTunes, iPhoto, Mail, bookmarks spring to mind). I don't want to do a complete backup (I have that on an external HD). Also, does it matter that my iBook is 10.4.2, and eMac is 10.3.9? (I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook, and when I have an extra $100 I'll upgrade the eMac to Tiger) Ive been using a cheap ($12) but good synchronization tool to do that for years. It's called File Synchronization and you can read more about it from the link in my signature. Disclosure: I wrote and sell File Synchronization! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] line 666: [from Christian eschatological myth] n. The notional line of source at which a program fails for obscure reasons, implying either that _somebody_ is out to get it (when you are the programmer), or that it richly deserves to be so gotten (when you are not). It works when I trace through it, but seems to crash on line 666 when I run it. What happens is that whenever a large batch comes through, mmdf dies on the Line of the Beast. Probably some twit hardcoded a buffer size. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On 15/02/2006, at 11:05 PM, Concetta Z wrote: Hey, that's my setup. I'm having a little problem synching the two. How did you do it? I would like a fast, easy, cheap way to sync my iBook to my eMac. Just update the files that have been added or changed (documents, iTunes, iPhoto, Mail, bookmarks spring to mind). I don't want to do a complete backup (I have that on an external HD). Also, does it matter that my iBook is 10.4.2, and eMac is 10.3.9? (I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook, and when I have an extra $100 I'll upgrade the eMac to Tiger) Thanks for any input. Concetta I've upgraded my BW (G4/450) and iBook (G3/500) from 4.3 to 4.4 to 4.5 and have had no problems at all. Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Kevin Avery wrote: On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: I have the neat little 12 iBook G4/1.33 GHz, with Combo drive, which I use for occasional genealogy research trips outside the house. Our main Mac, which I share with my wife, is a G4 QuickSilver 733 with Apple's 17 LCD. I particularly love that monitor. In setting up another work desk in another room of the house, I could try using the iBook, or I could buy a new iMac. I will be working (or playing) hours at a time, sometimes all day with meal breaks. Principal uses are e-mail, web browsing, word processing, researching CD-ROMs for .pdf pages, and running the genealogy Reunion software. Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Any helpful hints welcome! Oh, has anyone tried using a laptop like this and found it best to move on to a conventional desktop or tower/monitor setup? Al, I saved up my pennies and bought the same iBook you have last October. I have a gigE dual 450 G4 that used to be my main machine, but now this iBook is it. The G4 is still in the same place on my desk but is now acting as a server for the most part. I love the portability of this iBook, I use it everywhere in the house, I even put it on the book holder of my exercise bike and do a little web surfing while riding the bike. I also find it nice to have while waiting for my kids at the different lessons I take them to all week. I love this iBook, it has replaced my desktop 100%. I do like having everything I do on this iBook, I think that is part of the draw, it would be hard to have some things on this and some things on a desktop. I guess it all comes down to personal preference and how you work. Now, you did say you could buy a new iMac and set it up, I have to admit, if I had the cash on hand I might buy a new iMac and replace the old beige G3 we have in our kitchen. :) take care, Kevin Avery I use my G4 iBook as my main computer. I'm a heavy user often on my 'book 10+ hrs a day, but my son brought his new G5 iMac home over winter break. There's no comparison. The iMac is awesome. If I had to choose one it would be the iMac. The screen, the speed. You'll be much more productive on it. Matt H -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
I you're happy with computer power and speed, I'd buy a nice monitor and an external keyboard and mouse. Then when you later upgrade, you'll be good to go with a nice monitor, or perhaps a monitor for spanning. John On Feb 15, 2006, at 8:34 AM, Matt and Sue Halter wrote: On Feb 14, 2006, at 10:48 PM, Kevin Avery wrote: On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: I have the neat little 12 iBook G4/1.33 GHz, with Combo drive, which I use for occasional genealogy research trips outside the house. Our main Mac, which I share with my wife, is a G4 QuickSilver 733 with Apple's 17 LCD. I particularly love that monitor. In setting up another work desk in another room of the house, I could try using the iBook, or I could buy a new iMac. I will be working (or playing) hours at a time, sometimes all day with meal breaks. Principal uses are e-mail, web browsing, word processing, researching CD-ROMs for .pdf pages, and running the genealogy Reunion software. Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Any helpful hints welcome! Oh, has anyone tried using a laptop like this and found it best to move on to a conventional desktop or tower/monitor setup? Al, I saved up my pennies and bought the same iBook you have last October. I have a gigE dual 450 G4 that used to be my main machine, but now this iBook is it. The G4 is still in the same place on my desk but is now acting as a server for the most part. I love the portability of this iBook, I use it everywhere in the house, I even put it on the book holder of my exercise bike and do a little web surfing while riding the bike. I also find it nice to have while waiting for my kids at the different lessons I take them to all week. I love this iBook, it has replaced my desktop 100%. I do like having everything I do on this iBook, I think that is part of the draw, it would be hard to have some things on this and some things on a desktop. I guess it all comes down to personal preference and how you work. Now, you did say you could buy a new iMac and set it up, I have to admit, if I had the cash on hand I might buy a new iMac and replace the old beige G3 we have in our kitchen. :) take care, Kevin Avery I use my G4 iBook as my main computer. I'm a heavy user often on my 'book 10+ hrs a day, but my son brought his new G5 iMac home over winter break. There's no comparison. The iMac is awesome. If I had to choose one it would be the iMac. The screen, the speed. You'll be much more productive on it. Matt H -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- John Slavin [EMAIL PROTECTED] It is a miracle that curiosity survives formal education. -Albert Einstein -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? I used to use an eMac and an iBook and keep them synchronized. Hey, that's my setup. I'm having a little problem synching the two. How did you do it? I would like a fast, easy, cheap way to sync my iBook to my eMac. Just update the files that have been added or changed (documents, iTunes, iPhoto, Mail, bookmarks spring to mind). I don't want to do a complete backup (I have that on an external HD). Also, does it matter that my iBook is 10.4.2, and eMac is 10.3.9? (I'm waiting to hear more about 10.4.3/10.4.4/10.4.5 for my iBook, and when I have an extra $100 I'll upgrade the eMac to Tiger) Thanks for any input. Concetta -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook as Desktop
I have the neat little 12 iBook G4/1.33 GHz, with Combo drive, which I use for occasional genealogy research trips outside the house. Our main Mac, which I share with my wife, is a G4 QuickSilver 733 with Apple's 17 LCD. I particularly love that monitor. In setting up another work desk in another room of the house, I could try using the iBook, or I could buy a new iMac. I will be working (or playing) hours at a time, sometimes all day with meal breaks. Principal uses are e-mail, web browsing, word processing, researching CD-ROMs for .pdf pages, and running the genealogy Reunion software. Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Any helpful hints welcome! Oh, has anyone tried using a laptop like this and found it best to move on to a conventional desktop or tower/monitor setup? Thank you, Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
Tried it, didn't like it. I found the 12 screen I love in a portable was too small for using as a full-time desktop. You can use an external monitor, but the iBook will not work closed as the powerbooks will. JeffW. On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: I have the neat little 12 iBook G4/1.33 GHz, with Combo drive, which I use for occasional genealogy research trips outside the house. Our main Mac, which I share with my wife, is a G4 QuickSilver 733 with Apple's 17 LCD. I particularly love that monitor. In setting up another work desk in another room of the house, I could try using the iBook, or I could buy a new iMac. I will be working (or playing) hours at a time, sometimes all day with meal breaks. Principal uses are e-mail, web browsing, word processing, researching CD-ROMs for .pdf pages, and running the genealogy Reunion software. Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Any helpful hints welcome! Oh, has anyone tried using a laptop like this and found it best to move on to a conventional desktop or tower/monitor setup? Thank you, Al Poulin Anger, hate, and revenge are for the devil, forgiveness is for God, proactive self-defense is for the rest of us. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
on 14/02/06 21:59, Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 14/02/06 20:28, Al Poulin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip!] Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? [snip!] I use my PowerBook 17 as my main Mac. At home, I often plug a Diamondback Razer mouse so if I am in the need of playing, it's ready. At the office, where I bring my PowerBook, I will some times use a Logitech Bluetooth keyboard and mouse, but very rarely. Otherwise, I mostly use the built-in keyboard and the trackpad for everything. Also, at both home and office, I use a PodiumPad (AKA CoolPad) to slightly elevate the PowerBook and help with dissipating heat. Hmmm, in reading my reply, I realize that you are mentioning iBooks or small screen PowerBooks, not exactly what a 17 is. To tell you the truth, if I had to use an iBook or any PowerBook that is not a 17, I think I would get an external screen as I would never settle for less than a 17 after using it for over a year. I used a Pismo before and was extremly happy (I still have it on a shelf here), but after the 17, I guess I was spoiled by the additional screen estate... -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] memory leak: n. An error in a program's dynamic-store allocation logic that causes it to fail to reclaim discarded memory, leading to eventual collapse due to memory exhaustion. Also (esp. at CMU) called core leak. These problems were severe on older machines with small, fixed-size address spaces, and special leak detection tools were commonly written to root them out. With the advent of virtual memory, it is unfortunately easier to be sloppy about wasting a bit of memory (although when you run out of memory on a VM machine, it means you've got a _real_ leak!). See aliasing bug, fandango on core, smash the stack, precedence lossage, overrun screw, leaky heap, leak. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 14, 2006, at 6:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? I used to use an eMac and an iBook and keep them synchronized. Now I use only a 15 AlBook 1.25GHz, 1GB RAM, OS 10.4.4. At my main desk, I have a computer hutch with a shelf raised a few inches off the table top, and on top of that I have a Road Tools Podium CoolPad that raises the screen to a perfect height for me. I use an Apple Bluetooth kepboard, and a Microsoft Intellimouse Optical at my desk. When I'm upstairs, I have the smaller CoolPad that I use either on a table or on my lap, and find the trackpad (with the addition of iScroll2 for two-finger scrolling) comfortable most of the time. I'd probably do the same with a 12 screen, but I'm glad to have the extra screen real estate with the 15. Regards, Harry Corsover -- Feel better, look younger, live longer and make more money with Synergy Worldwide: Harry Corsover [EMAIL PROTECTED]303-909-9218 www.harryc.biz -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook as Desktop
On Feb 14, 2006, at 7:28 PM, Al Poulin wrote: I have the neat little 12 iBook G4/1.33 GHz, with Combo drive, which I use for occasional genealogy research trips outside the house. Our main Mac, which I share with my wife, is a G4 QuickSilver 733 with Apple's 17 LCD. I particularly love that monitor. In setting up another work desk in another room of the house, I could try using the iBook, or I could buy a new iMac. I will be working (or playing) hours at a time, sometimes all day with meal breaks. Principal uses are e-mail, web browsing, word processing, researching CD-ROMs for .pdf pages, and running the genealogy Reunion software. Is anybody here happy with using their iBooks or small screen PowerBooks as desktop machines? Do you hook up an extra keyboard and mouse? Happy with the small screen? Or do you hook up a larger monitor? Elevate the laptop on a stand? Any helpful hints welcome! Oh, has anyone tried using a laptop like this and found it best to move on to a conventional desktop or tower/monitor setup? Al, I saved up my pennies and bought the same iBook you have last October. I have a gigE dual 450 G4 that used to be my main machine, but now this iBook is it. The G4 is still in the same place on my desk but is now acting as a server for the most part. I love the portability of this iBook, I use it everywhere in the house, I even put it on the book holder of my exercise bike and do a little web surfing while riding the bike. I also find it nice to have while waiting for my kids at the different lessons I take them to all week. I love this iBook, it has replaced my desktop 100%. I do like having everything I do on this iBook, I think that is part of the draw, it would be hard to have some things on this and some things on a desktop. I guess it all comes down to personal preference and how you work. Now, you did say you could buy a new iMac and set it up, I have to admit, if I had the cash on hand I might buy a new iMac and replace the old beige G3 we have in our kitchen. :) take care, Kevin Avery -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
WTB: MoBo 4 Dual USB iBook 500 (or faster)
Mine is a 12 unit, so I'm looking for a fully functional motherboard replacement which will fit this machine, at 500 MHz or any of the faster CPU's which fit this machine, a Model M6497, made in 2001. Shipping is to Long Beach, NY 11561. Thanks for your help! Blessings, stanton -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Candlelit iBook Screen
Has anyone had a problem with their screen flickering like there's a candle behind it? It's just annoying enough to bother me when I use my iBook and just disconcerting enough I wonder if it isn't a sign the screen's dying... ?? Ruffin Bailey -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Candlelit iBook Screen
Stardate 060204.10:01 -0500. A subspace message from Ruffin Bailey reads: Has anyone had a problem with their screen flickering like there's a candle behind it? Either the EL element itself is dying, or the board that generates the necessary high voltages is failing. You're on last legs there, son. Apple service centre, stat!! Geoffrey -- -- Endian Little Hate I --- -- I'm afraid music in the modern idiom is too repetitive for my tastes ... although the rhythm does have a certain hypnotic effect. -- Brains (International Rescue Engineer, 'Thunderbirds' (c) Gerry Anderson 1969) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 7:17 AM, kaldav wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an iBook G4 12 1ghz would work in a Pismo? Thanks. Hi Yes it will it is just a straight drop into the pismo caddy but the face plate will not fit as it is slot loading. You can make one easy enough from an old vst zip drive caddy for the pismo. vicki -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 12:17 AM, kaldav wrote: Hello, Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an iBook G4 12 1ghz would work in a Pismo? It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo. The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote: It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo. The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier. Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put one in my Lombard eventually. Thanks, Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote: It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo. The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier. Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put one in my Lombard eventually. No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts. (College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system) I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy http:// www.powerbookguy.com sells one for $129. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 12:43 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote: On Jan 24, 2006, at 10:28 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote: On Tuesday, Jan 24, 2006, at 10:33 America/Chicago, Bruce Johnson wrote: It should, I've got one from a TiBook in mine. Just unbolted the drive from the carrier in the TiBook and attached it to the one in my Pismo. The bezel doesn't fit, but it's a slot loader, so it's less important. It's a someday project to dremel out the bezel from the old drive to attach it to the new one so it's prettier. Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put one in my Lombard eventually. No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts. (College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system) I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy http://www.powerbookguy.com sells one for $129. Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or will I have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn? Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 11:47 AM, Caleb Cupples wrote: No clue, since I was given the expired TiBook for spare parts. (College only, unfortunately, since it's a UA-owned system) I'd scour e-bay for TiBook parts. Powerbookguy http:// www.powerbookguy.com sells one for $129. Thanks. If anything, Powerbookguy definitely beats OWC's prices for superdrives. Does it work with the native drivers in Jaguar, or will I have to hack some drivers and/or install PatchBurn? The one from the Tibook worked just fine right off the bat, but that was in 10.3. You might have to run Patchburn if the drive post-dates Jaguar. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
KNEW I was forgetting one! Wegener Media http://wegenermedia.com/ sells kits with the correct bezel and all for starting at $150: http://www.wegenermedia.com/pismoslotdrives.htm -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Dead 14 iBook? Any ideas?
Hi all, I've been presented with a challenge that I can't do a thing with... One of my colleagues has presented me with his 14 iBook (700 MHz G3). There's just no power. I've tried taking the battery out for a few days to reset the power manager, but I don't know what else to do... Any ideas? thanks, Jamie -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead 14 iBook? Any ideas?
On Jan 24, 2006, at 12:54 PM, Jamie Pruden wrote: Hi all, I've been presented with a challenge that I can't do a thing with... One of my colleagues has presented me with his 14 iBook (700 MHz G3). There's just no power. I've tried taking the battery out for a few days to reset the power manager, but I don't know what else to do... Any ideas? thanks, Jamie Is this the Dual USB model? It has a problem interfacing with the power adapter... it was an Apple recall issue motherboard/connector issue. Sandra Ragan www.plumdigital.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Dead 14 iBook? Any ideas?
I had a similar problem with my powerbook. I took out the battery and plugged it in without the battery. It started up that way. Then I installed the battery and it slowly charged up. Woody Jamie Pruden wrote: Hi all, I've been presented with a challenge that I can't do a thing with... One of my colleagues has presented me with his 14 iBook (700 MHz G3). There's just no power. I've tried taking the battery out for a few days to reset the power manager, but I don't know what else to do... Any ideas? thanks, Jamie -- Woody, Retired in Albuquerque mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 35 Quality Middle School Art Lessons in powerpoint format, on one CD $17 (includes shipping) http://www.taospaint.com/QualityLessons.html Ordering Address: PO Box 91703 Albuquerque, NM87199-1703 “The function of the overwhelming majority of your artwork is simply to teach you how to make the small fraction of your artwork that soars.” from: “Art Fear” Woody's Watercolor Portfolio: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Watercolors.html Newest Fantastic Triplet Pics: http://www.taospaint.com/Kansas05/Christmas.html My newest watercolors: http://www.taospaint.com/Portfolio/Beach/Watercolors.html -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
Caleb Cupples [EMAIL PROTECTED] asked: Bruce, about how expensive are TiBook superdrives, as I'd like to put one in my Lombard eventually. I figure an original SuperDrive ought to go for $50 or so, based on the prices of current models, eg: Pioneer DVR-K05 8X Dual Layer Slim DVD±RW Drive @ US$87: http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=171021 dan k . http://macdan.n3.net/ carracho://dankephoto.dhs.org:9700 hotline://dankephoto.dhs.org:9500 . -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
ibook G4 Combo drive in Pismo?
Hello, Does anyone know if a Combo drive from an iBook G4 12 1ghz would work in a Pismo? Thanks. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Interchanging iBook G3 G4 keyboards
I'm afraid I've mostly lurked on this list for a while and I apologize if the subject has been covered before, but just in case it's helpful... I certainly didn't find anyone who seemed to have done the deed when I Googled this up a few times over the last year. Short answers: * You *cannot* use iBook G4 keyboards on iBook G3s without putting an extension on the ribbon, which, if you don't mind, we'll say is a nontrivial exercise, to put it mildly. * You *can* use G3 keyboards on G4 with a few caveats. One, you'll have to fold the ribbon like a Z over on itself, which is not the recommended way of using a ribbon cable. Two, you'll have a slight bow in the keyboard that'll make it poke up just enough you'll likely scrape the screen with your keyboard's keys. I had a G4 keyboard go flakey on me (never liked it as much as the iBook G3 keyboard, and it finally acted so wacky I either had to clean it #shudder!# or use it as an excuse for this experiment) and, after pulling another keyboard from a limping iBook G3, the things looked similar enough I thought it was worth a shot. So far, so good. The bent-over ribbon does concern me a bit, however. The iBook G4 keyboard doesn't have a particularly nice feel, imo, though the metal keyholders do seem a bit more robust. I've had issues on my G4 kybd with the space bar not being so responsive and with random keys repeating at the slightest pressure (particularly h, fwiw). Taking a little out of a G3 keyboard's ribbon would seem a nice way to get a good typing-feel into this very nice laptop. I'd considered downgrading to an iBook G3 900 to get as much perf as I could with the nicer keyboard, esp since Small Dog had told me that I couldn't swap in a G3 kybd for the G4. Glad I found out differently, so far. I'm not so sure they were wrong -- the keyboards *aren't* interchangeable. But, again, you can take the G3's to the G4. Anyhow, there you go. Hope that helps someone at some point. Ruffin Bailey -- Another rant from a so-called professional programmer... http://MyFreakinName.blogspot.com for more drivel. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ibook G4 1GHz malfunctioning motherboard any value?
A few months ago, I did replace the motherboard in my daughter's iBook G4 at 1GHz. She had spilled water on the keyboard and it found its way to damage the motherboard. Only the video was affected, though, the computer seemed to be working fine except for the video. So, that motherboard has been sitting on a shelf for a few months now, collecting dust. Anybody knows if this has any value that would justify putting it on eBay? Thanks! -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM: /I-B-M/ Inferior But Marketable; It's Better Manually; Insidious Black Magic; It's Been Malfunctioning; Incontinent Bowel Movement; and a near-infinite number of even less complimentary expansions, including `International Business Machines'. See TLA. These abbreviations illustrate the considerable antipathy most hackers long felt toward the `industry leader' (see fear and loathing). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ibook G4 1GHz malfunctioning motherboard any value?
Does this work in the G3 dual USB? Mine still has the flaky power connector. Sandra Ragan www.plumdigital.com On Jan 15, 2006, at 3:39 PM, Laurent Daudelin wrote: A few months ago, I did replace the motherboard in my daughter's iBook G4 at 1GHz. She had spilled water on the keyboard and it found its way to damage the motherboard. Only the video was affected, though, the computer seemed to be working fine except for the video. So, that motherboard has been sitting on a shelf for a few months now, collecting dust. Anybody knows if this has any value that would justify putting it on eBay? Thanks! -Laurent. -- === = Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelin http://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] IBM: /I-B-M/ Inferior But Marketable; It's Better Manually; Insidious Black Magic; It's Been Malfunctioning; Incontinent Bowel Movement; and a near-infinite number of even less complimentary expansions, including `International Business Machines'. See TLA. These abbreviations illustrate the considerable antipathy most hackers long felt toward the `industry leader' (see fear and loathing). -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook Format and installation of Panther
On Dec 21, 2005, at 10:11 PM, Lowell Neudeck wrote: I have an iBook G3 800mHz with OS 10.28. It is three years old and is starting to act slow and a few other oddities. I have rebuilt permissions and run DiskWarrior but still it seems slow and quirky. Somewhere in the long ago, I recall some “expert” stating that every 2 or 3 years, one should backup the hard drive and then reformat it. Glad you used the quotes, because that was no expert. Have you run one of the various maintenance utilities like Onyx or MacJanitor? If you consisstently leave your mac asleep or off at 3AM, then the system and other unix Log files just continue to grow, to the point where you start seeing these problems. (or you can geek out and do it in terminal I am going to install panther on the iBook and am wondering if I should reformat the drive before I do this. Also, will I be able to use the same administrator’s password, etc? In short, is it more trouble than it is worth to reformat the drive? Do an Archive and Re-install. (select options when you pick which drive to install it in during the installation process; the default will be to Upgrade, you don't want that, but Archive and Re-install) This keeps all of your user data intact, but gives you a whole new system. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook Format and installation of Panther
At 10:11 PM -0700 12/21/2005, Lowell Neudeck wrote: I have an iBook G3 800mHz with OS 10.28. It is three years old and is starting to act slow and a few other oddities. I have rebuilt permissions and run DiskWarrior but still it seems slow and quirky. In part, that's Jaguar. In part, your data is probably very fragmented by now. Somewhere in the long ago, I recall some expert stating that every 2 or 3 years, one should backup the hard drive and then reformat it. Well... Formatting ain't gonna happen on an IDE drive. Apple doesn't support that (and they're right - it's not necessary). But you can zero it ... which writes and reads every block on the drive. This forces remaps if a sector has gone bad. Better to remap a zeroed sector than one with your good data on it. And, of course, the reload after a fresh initialization insures your data is unfragmented. I am going to install panther on the iBook and am wondering if I should reformat the drive before I do this. +/- the above, I would. Also, will I be able to use the same administrator's password, etc? In short, is it more trouble than it is worth to reformat the drive? After three years, I think zero'ing is worth the effort. And the defragmented data will fly faster. Make Good Backups. - Dan. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook Format and installation of Panther
I have an iBook G3 800mHz with OS 10.28. It is three years old and is starting to act slow and a few other oddities. I have rebuilt permissions and run DiskWarrior but still it seems slow and quirky. Somewhere in the long ago, I recall some “expert” stating that every 2 or 3 years, one should backup the hard drive and then reformat it. I am going to install panther on the iBook and am wondering if I should reformat the drive before I do this. Also, will I be able to use the same administrator’s password, etc? In short, is it more trouble than it is worth to reformat the drive? TIA -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron/ibooks ebay (was: Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS)
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3-French guy, when I first replied to his first message (both of us using the ebay message center), I got an automated reply from a US Air Force email account which had English and French wording and his name. So I thought that was a good thing if he was in the military. But when I asked Mr. G3 in the next ebay message if he was in the military, he wrote that No, he was not, but he had access to that Air Force email account. Now THAT, I thought, was also really strange! ... unless he is dating some Air Force lady! ;-) Not necessarily. Contractors and Civil Service employees are granted official USAF email addresses if their jobs call for it. Even keeping that in mind, though, I agree that this whole thing sounded a little too fishy. Kurt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron/ibooks ebay (was: Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS)
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3-French guy, when I first replied to his first message (both of us using the ebay message center), I got an automated reply from a US Air Force email account which had English and French wording and his name. So I thought that was a good thing if he was in the military. But when I asked Mr. G3 in the next ebay message if he was in the military, he wrote that No, he was not, but he had access to that Air Force email account. Now THAT, I thought, was also really strange! ... unless he is dating some Air Force lady! ;-) Not necessarily. Contractors and Civil Service employees are granted official USAF email addresses if their jobs call for it. Even keeping that in mind, though, I agree that this whole thing sounded a little too fishy. Kurt -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Thanks for any tips! Best regards, Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] metasyntactic variable: n. A name used in examples and understood to stand for whatever thing is under discussion, or any random member of a class of things under discussion. The word foo is the canonical example. To avoid confusion, hackers never (well, hardly ever) use `foo' or other words like it as permanent names for anything. In filenames, a common convention is that any filename beginning with a metasyntactic-variable name is a scratch file that may be deleted at any time. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On Dec 9, 2005, at 2:23 AM, BGbank wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, Laurent Daudelin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I don't know... I'm thinking of buying from a certain vendor a G4 ibook that comes without an OS. My Q is, How can you install an OS if it doesn't already have one? I have OS 9.1 CDs which came with this current G3 ibook (300mhz, 6gig, 128 ram). Will a G4 ibook (800mhz, 30gig, 640 ram) without any OS on it, let me boot from and/or install this OS 9.1-CD, for starters? (Eventually I would look to buy OSX CDs, etc.) In other words, I'm sure the machine will turn on, but then what? Will a G4 ibook w/o any OS on it even let you get to the Start Up Disk in the Apple Menu/Control Panels so you can set it to start up on the OS 9.1 CD? And then would it let me merely copy to HD the entire OS 9.1 from the CD? If so, that'd be great. But if not, I wouldn't want to buy this G4 ibook if I can't even make it work. If it's more complicated than what I described above, does anyone know of a webpage or URL that would list How To do such a thing, step-by-step? Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. -- First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it. I would not buy one that way personally because there could be problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if there is a problem. Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from your iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from the CD and do the install process whether or not it will work for that particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook while holding down the C key. Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the C key and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay as soon as possible. Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would be a much better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was. If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS on it. OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook Logic Board extended repair program x2?
Greetings ... Just curious if any of you have had to send an iBook G3 in more than once for video issues covered by the Logic Board Extended Repair Program. We sent one in several months ago and it worked well until recently, but now it's exhibiting the same garbled video and blank screen on startup issues as before the repair. Apple's been very cooperative and will be picking it up for diagnosis. Have any of you had the good fortune of having your iBook repaired more than once for this issue? Do you know exactly what it is they diagnose/repair with this? Like I said, just curious ... Jean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:46 AM G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan THANK YOU Dylan. I didn't know about the C key. That sounds simple enough! Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 8:33 AM Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. That sounds easy enough to figure out by checking some specs at everymac or apple, which I did, and so I'm thinking OS9 would NOT work on the G4/800mhz, first edition. I never had a mac w/No OS, so wasn't sure. Thanks again. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:47 AM First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it. Yes, thanks. It is discounted, or was, I should say, because I just got email to my query and in their ad/mac description it had said at the bottom of the page Buy Now for $400 but he just wrote me to say that was a mistake, as it was supposed to say that bidding STARTS at $400. I thought it was too good to be true, lol. Of course he said if no one bids on it he would gladly sell it for the $400. I would not buy one that way personally because there could be problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if there is a problem. Thanks for that advice. I didn't think about the fact there COULD be problems unknown UNTIL an OS was put on it. And no, I don't know the people but they are a power seller at ebay with refurbs and 30-day warranty only. Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from your iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from the CD and do the install process whether or not it will work for that particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook while holding down the C key. I love that C key tip, thanks! I wish I had access to it to try it out in advance but not yet and may not even end up with it if the bidding doesn't work out. Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the C key and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay as soon as possible. Yes, thanks, I already zeroed in on two good deals at ebay for the 10.4/Tiger but I won't need them if I don't get the G4-without-OS. Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would be a much better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was. I just don't think these 6gig'er clamshells are enough HD memory. I have hardly anything on this current G3 clamshell (IE-OE-MS Office 98, etc.) and it's slow as molasses and bogs down, etc. which is why I was looking for a newer model with more mhz and more ram and mucho bigger HD. Also it's awful heavy on the lap! ;-) If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS on it. Definitely, I agree, thanks! Some good deals on OSX's at ebay, haven't seen too many through the swap list yet. And since most newer macs COME WITH an OSX, the only reason I was needing one was due to this possible G4-deal w/o the OS, but thought if I could get it revved up first w/the OS9 which I already have... but that's history now, I'm thinking it wouldn't work and if I get the G4 I would just go ahead and get a separate OSX for it at the same time since the prices don't look as bad as I expected (for full install versions). OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - on 09/12/05 05:23, BGbank at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings folks, This may be a no-brainer Q... but I
Re: iBook Logic Board extended repair program x2?
3x the repair ssems to last for only about 4 months John --- Jean Sinervo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings ... Just curious if any of you have had to send an iBook G3 in more than once for video issues covered by the Logic Board Extended Repair Program. We sent one in several months ago and it worked well until recently, but now it's exhibiting the same garbled video and blank screen on startup issues as before the repair. Apple's been very cooperative and will be picking it up for diagnosis. Have any of you had the good fortune of having your iBook repaired more than once for this issue? Do you know exactly what it is they diagnose/repair with this? Like I said, just curious ... Jean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? LaterHoward -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 09/12/05 12:47, Howard Katz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? It should as the target disk mode is implemented in the firmware, even before the machine tries to boot. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook Logic Board extended repair program x2?
I have a G3 700 iBook that has been in twice for logic board replacement. Both times were no hassle. First time shipped from workplace to repair center. Second (just last month) was from AASC. First time it was diagnosed over the phone, second time by service tech at AASC. Hope this helps. Good luck, Henry On Dec 9, 2005, at 12:25 PM, Jean Sinervo wrote: Greetings ... Just curious if any of you have had to send an iBook G3 in more than once for video issues covered by the Logic Board Extended Repair Program. We sent one in several months ago and it worked well until recently, but now it's exhibiting the same garbled video and blank screen on startup issues as before the repair. Apple's been very cooperative and will be picking it up for diagnosis. Have any of you had the good fortune of having your iBook repaired more than once for this issue? Do you know exactly what it is they diagnose/repair with this? Like I said, just curious ... Jean -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com --- -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On Dec 9, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Howard Katz wrote: Not that it would help Gail's situation, but I'm curious: Could a mac without an OS on it's hard drive be started up in target mode? And if it could, would doing a full backup with a program like SuperDuper be able to put a working OS, as well as other files, on the one with the blank drive, from a working Mac? Yes. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - Everything like MHz, RAM and even HD speed makes a difference in how the OS will run. For the average user hard drive size only makes a difference if it gets loaded too full, but mostly it just limits you to how many apps you can have installed. Adding RAM will improve any Macs performance and is easy to do. Adding RAM is always the first thing I do with a new Mac and I try to add as much as I can afford. In my opinion RAM gives the best return on your money of all the things you can add to a computer. I have a Clamshell 466MHz G3 with a 10GB drive that I have Tiger running on with 320MB of RAM and it does ok on surfing and light duty. I may end up putting Panther back on it because it was snappier than Tiger is and for what I use the Clamshell for I don't need the added perks of Tiger. I also had a 300MHz Clamshell with 320MB of RAM and a 6GB hard drive running Panther but the hard drive size was too small for what I want loaded on it. Panther ran fine on it though and with thorough cleaning and burning files to CD's it is easy to keep the junk from overloading the Mac. One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is software pirating and generally is a sign of their honesty. Without the CD's the hard drive should be wiped clean. So at least he didn't add Panther or Tiger to the iBook to sell it for more money and that's a good sign. Even the Swaplist has far too many Macs for sale that have newer OS's installed without CD's included in the sale, which is pirated software and also a violation of the LEM rules but apparently the nanny never reads the posts. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
I have a G4 iBook and got new for a discount because it only has a CD drive. That was all I wanted really. The seller, Small Dog, sold it as new old stock and provided the OS. You should know that if you find a G4 without a DVD drive you'll have to specify that your OS install disks have to be CD. Tiger is available on CDs from Apple but the default medium for Tiger is DVD. In fact if you bought Tiger on a DVD you can send the DVD to Apple and they'll sell you the CD version for I think $15 or so. eBay-ers will probably bid the price of that G4 way over $400. I've also run into sneaky stuff like little extra charges because the sellers complain that they are just paying too much for PayPal. I find eBay completely odious. But you may find really good deals via DealMac, where you can sign up for alerts on low prices for G4 iBooks. Also remember that a new iBook comes not only with an OS, but with other bundled applications that aren't part of the OS installation. So when comparing you may find that the loss of things like Appleworks or Quicken may factor into your cost analysis. Caveat emptor. John On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:40 AM, BGbank wrote: Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:46 AM G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan THANK YOU Dylan. I didn't know about the C key. That sounds simple enough! Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 8:33 AM Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. That sounds easy enough to figure out by checking some specs at everymac or apple, which I did, and so I'm thinking OS9 would NOT work on the G4/800mhz, first edition. I never had a mac w/No OS, so wasn't sure. Thanks again. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:47 AM First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you will be responsible to get a licensed OS for it. Yes, thanks. It is discounted, or was, I should say, because I just got email to my query and in their ad/mac description it had said at the bottom of the page Buy Now for $400 but he just wrote me to say that was a mistake, as it was supposed to say that bidding STARTS at $400. I thought it was too good to be true, lol. Of course he said if no one bids on it he would gladly sell it for the $400. I would not buy one that way personally because there could be problems you will not know about until it's got an OS on it. Unless you know the seller personally of course, or can return it if there is a problem. Thanks for that advice. I didn't think about the fact there COULD be problems unknown UNTIL an OS was put on it. And no, I don't know the people but they are a power seller at ebay with refurbs and 30-day warranty only. Many of the Mac specific install CD's like the one you have may not boot and install on any other specific Mac. So your OS 9 CD from your iBook may or may not work. Since it is an iBook CD your chances are better that it will work. You will find out when you boot from the CD and do the install process whether or not it will work for that particular iBook. If you have access to the iBook try booting from your CD by starting it or restarting it with the CD in the iBook while holding down the C key. I love that C key tip, thanks! I wish I had access to it to try it out in advance but not yet and may not even end up with it if the bidding doesn't work out. Installing an OS is as simple as booting from the CD with the C key and following the installer instructions. It's easy to do. I would suggest buying a retail version of OS 10.3 from the swaplist or eBay as soon as possible. Yes, thanks, I already zeroed in on two good deals at ebay for the 10.4/Tiger but I won't need them if I don't get the G4-without-OS. Your G3 iBook can also run OS 10.3 with enough RAM and it would be a much better Mac'n experience than OS 9.1 ever was. I just don't think these 6gig'er clamshells are enough HD memory. I have hardly anything on this current G3 clamshell (IE-OE-MS Office 98, etc.) and it's slow as molasses and bogs down, etc. which is why I was looking for a newer model with more mhz and more ram and mucho bigger HD. Also it's awful heavy on the lap! ;-) If you are going to buy a G4 iBook you should put a decent OS
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, John Siple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eBay-ers will probably bid the price of that G4 way over $400. I've also run into sneaky stuff like little extra charges because the sellers complain that they are just paying too much for PayPal. I find eBay completely odious. But you may find really good deals via DealMac, where you can sign up for alerts on low prices for G4 iBooks. A quick look at G4 800MHz sales on ebay shows the iBooks sell for about $5-700.00 so keep that in mind. And watch what they charge for shipping too. $20.00 is usually plenty $$ to ship a laptop with insurance in the US. You can still get new iBooks for $999.00 (12) too and refurbs are even less. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Gene - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Gene Osburn at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:33 PM What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:21 PM Everything like MHz, RAM and even HD speed makes a difference in how the OS will run. For the average user hard drive size only makes a difference if it gets loaded too full, but mostly it just limits you to how many apps you can have installed. Adding RAM will improve any Macs performance and is easy to do. Adding RAM is always the first thing I do with a new Mac and I try to add as much as I can afford. In my opinion RAM gives the best return on your money of all the things you can add to a computer. Thanks for the advice. I should've put more RAM on this clamshell a long time ago. I had always heard clamshells were hard to open and install RAM so was never anxious to mess with it. Would rather put any $ toward something a little bigger/faster. I have a Clamshell 466MHz G3 with a 10GB drive that I have Tiger running on with 320MB of RAM and it does ok on surfing and light duty. I may end up putting Panther back on it because it was snappier than Tiger is and for what I use the Clamshell for I don't need the added perks of Tiger. I can't imagine fitting another OS of any kind of this 6gig, and I really don't have that many apps for the same reason. So I keep it for internet and email and some word-processing, but want to add a newer faster laptop. And I definitely wanted Tiger on whatever newer machine because I heard that spotlight is awesome for finding emails (I heard Walt Mossberg, WSJ techie, on Charlie Rose one night rave about spotlight and how easy it is to find emails, and that's exactly why I want Tiger. I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit, lol). I also had a 300MHz Clamshell with 320MB of RAM and a 6GB hard drive running Panther but the hard drive size was too small for what I want loaded on it. Panther ran fine on it though and with thorough cleaning and burning files to CD's it is easy to keep the junk from overloading the Mac. Well, that's yet another reason I wanted a newer ibook, so it would have CDRW on it! Zips don't hold much anymore and I want an INTERNAL CDRW vs. all this stuff hanging off the ibook, like the zip and USB-hub, etc. One thing about the seller who has the iBook is that he is probably reputable but just does not have the OS CD's to sell with it. Too many eBay sellers sell computers with a newer OS but no CD's which is software pirating and generally is a sign of their honesty. Without the CD's the hard drive should be wiped clean. So at least he didn't add Panther or Tiger to the iBook to sell it for more money and that's a good sign. Thank you for explaining that! I just replied to the guy and asked why he did NOT have an OS on it! ;-) Thanks! BTW, it appears they sell more pc's than mac's so I was thinking maybe they didn't know too much about macs. Even the Swaplist has far too many Macs for sale that have newer OS's installed without CD's included in the sale, which is pirated software and also a violation of the LEM rules but apparently the nanny never reads the posts. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ Ops! Cat's out of the bag now! ;-) Gail --- On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: OS 9 on a G4 is like driving a Cadillac with a Chevette motor in it. Ron heehee, good one! ;-) What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Ram size, or HD size, or mhz/ghz size? Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. THANKS Ron, Dylan, and Laurent! With all that advice I now have a much clearer idea of what I'm doing! Best regards, Gail - -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
John Siple at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:33 PM I have a G4 iBook and got new for a discount because it only has a CD drive. That was all I wanted really. The seller, Small Dog, sold it as new old stock and provided the OS. You should know that if you find a G4 without a DVD drive you'll have to specify that your OS install disks have to be CD. Tiger is available on CDs from Apple but the default medium for Tiger is DVD. In fact if you bought Tiger on a DVD you can send the DVD to Apple and they'll sell you the CD version for I think $15 or so. Thanks, John, for the helpful tips. I've only been looking at machines with Combo drives because I definitely want an internal CDRW. And, yeah, I did notice one seller saying they would NOT include the coupon for getting the DVD in CD from apple. Prior to that I didn't realize there was such a thing. eBay-ers will probably bid the price of that G4 way over $400. I'm sure you're right. I'm not an ebay fan, really, I have never bought one single thing there before -- never could access the site with dial-up, it was monstrously slow and I couldn't stand it. But just got high speed and went to check it out. I was mainly checking out the Buy it Now items because I'm not into all that frenzied bidding at the last second. I've also run into sneaky stuff like little extra charges because the sellers complain that they are just paying too much for PayPal. Yeah, that's baloney, I see that in a lot of places besides ebay, people adding $10 or $15 to the price because they have to pay PayPal and they try to bum it off on the buyer. Even non-profits are doing that, I ran across two recently who did that, and I say, If you want my $, don't be such a cheapskate, I'm not going to pay your fees, too! :-/ I find eBay completely odious. But you may find really good deals via DealMac, where you can sign up for alerts on low prices for G4 iBooks. ;-) I guess we agree ebay isn't the greatest all around. It is a little scary, especially the unknown people, though there are some regular mac shops that list items there, too, like powerbookguy and brentsales are two I noticed and have been mulling over some of their items. I'll have to revisit DealMac... I haven't checked all places yet. Also remember that a new iBook comes not only with an OS, but with other bundled applications that aren't part of the OS installation. So when comparing you may find that the loss of things like Appleworks or Quicken may factor into your cost analysis. Thank you, I did notice the difference in the descriptions of Full-Install CDs/DVDs and other upgrade versions. Some people are good at writing detailed descriptions of their items and what is included, even all the items on the CDs/DVDs, and then others you have to email them 3 times to get the simple specifics of what you'd like to know! Caveat emptor. John The G3/500mhz/55gig/384ram/Tiger guy actually sent me an ebay message asking if I wanted to look at his ebay item, and he listed the item #. When I asked how he knew I was even looking, he never gave an answer (I assumed he saw my name in another bid) but I wondered how cool was it for him to contact people like that who have bid on other items? I dunno, since I'm not an experienced ebay'er, maybe that's the norm and is no big deal. Then it turns out he's French but the item is in TX, and since his English (or maybe just his typing) is choppy, he doesn't write complete answers. So that was making me nervous even though his is a good-sounding-deal, too. So Yes, indeed, beware. Thanks! Gail On Dec 9, 2005, at 9:40 AM, BGbank wrote: Dylan McDermond at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:46 AM G4 iBooks will require Panther or better. It will not boot into any version of 9. Just buy the retail CD's for Panther or DVD for Tiger, boot with the C key held down. Nothing more to it than that. -Dylan THANK YOU Dylan. I didn't know about the C key. That sounds simple enough! Laurent Daudelin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 8:33 AM Depending on the model of iBook, it may or may not boot from that OS 9.1 CD. Any Macintosh will be able to boot from an appropriate system install CD. The CD has a version of the OS so that the Mac can boot from it. The only gotcha is to make sure that the system install CD you have is appropriate for the specific model of Mac you're planning to use it with. -Laurent. That sounds easy enough to figure out by checking some specs at everymac or apple, which I did, and so I'm thinking OS9 would NOT work on the G4/800mhz, first edition. I never had a mac w/No OS, so wasn't sure. Thanks again. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 10:47 AM First, the price of the iBook should be discounted because there is no original CD or OS loaded on the iBook. It should be sold with the original OS and include the CD's but that does not happen all the time so you
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Clark Martin at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:39 PM At 10:33 AM -0800 12/9/05, Gene Osburn wrote: What's the most important factor on an ibook for it to work the best/faster? Max RAM will have the most salutory effect - I'd say *AT LEAST* 512 MB is needed, 1 GB or more is even better. I concur. I used my iBook G4 for the first week with just the stock 256Mb. Every time I switch apps the beach ball cursor sat and spun. When I got the 1Gb upgrade it just jumped from app to app. At first I considered the 512Mb upgrade. But then I figured I would eventually go to 1Gb (1.25 Gb total) and my guesstimate for the cost made the 1Gb now the more economical over all. More is better! And that dang beachball, lol. I am too familiar with that thang! /Gail --- Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
snip I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit, lol). ah, the beauty of Gmail. I would never argue against the merits of Tiger, but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge, you might want to consider moving to gmail. I would assume anyone with gmail would have plenty of invites - I know I have 100. --Van -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 1:48 PM On 12/9/05, John Siple [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: eBay-ers will probably bid the price of that G4 way over $400. I've also run into sneaky stuff like little extra charges because the sellers complain that they are just paying too much for PayPal. I find eBay completely odious. But you may find really good deals via DealMac, where you can sign up for alerts on low prices for G4 iBooks. A quick look at G4 800MHz sales on ebay shows the iBooks sell for about $5-700.00 so keep that in mind. And watch what they charge for shipping too. $20.00 is usually plenty $$ to ship a laptop with insurance in the US. You can still get new iBooks for $999.00 (12) too and refurbs are even less. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ Thanks, Ron. This particular one up for grabs is a refurb from a guy or a company who sells quite a few pcs (and apples?) and it is a G4/800mhz/30gig/640mb/ComboDrive and No OS, supposedly checked out by their techs and in good working condition, so if an OS costs about $100, then using your figures, it should be $400-$600 max. And they are saying $30 for FEDEX, which is all they use. I did think $30 was a bit much for SH. A few weeks ago I did start out by looking at the brand new ibooks but thought if I could cut the price in half with a refurb or used, I'd rather go that route than jack up the credit card. ;-) /G -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3/500mhz/55gig/384ram/Tiger guy actually sent me an ebay message asking if I wanted to look at his ebay item, and he listed the item #. When I asked how he knew I was even looking, he never gave an answer (I assumed he saw my name in another bid) but I wondered how cool was it for him to contact people like that who have bid on other items? I dunno, since I'm not an experienced ebay'er, maybe that's the norm and is no big deal. Then it turns out he's French but the item is in TX, and since his English (or maybe just his typing) is choppy, he doesn't write complete answers. So that was making me nervous even though his is a good-sounding-deal, too. So Yes, indeed, beware. Thanks! Gail Not cool at all ! I'm pretty sure that's a violation of eBay policy and is sleazy at the least. And if he is overseas but the item is here in the states I would be very very cautious ! That is a very common scam used on Craigslist and other places laptops are sold. Anything I buy through on-line places like eBay I only pay with Paypal which will protect the buyer or USPS money orders. Nobody wants the US Postal Inspectors on their butt from mail fraud and it's even worse if a USPS money order was payment. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G3 iBook LCD question
Hi, what is the exchange matrix for LCDs for iBooks, starting with the 500mhz dual USB on up? I recently obtained an iBook 500mhz with a busted screen. I was told all of the non-clamshell G3 iBook LCDs could be used with it, but the 800mhz and 900mhz LCDs would be a slightly different color. Thank you for the help! xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gene - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail The advise I always give is spend as much as you can afford. I can't imagine 800MHz as only being adequate for Tiger. My 466 Clam does just fine with surfing, email and ebaying. My 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook doesn't do those things that much faster. A 300MHz G3 iBook would be pushing it but an 800MHz G4 iBook will handle Tiger with no problems. iBooks are made for Light duty use and he's comparing it to something you would need a G4 Powerbook or G4/G5 Powermac for. Anyone using high-end graphics apps or video apps should not be using an iBook anyway. iBooks are for the home computer user and an 800MHz G4 has plenty of oomph for that. As mentioned 512MB or better RAM helps too. Now that you have fast internet you can get on the wifi wagon too ! The main reason I have a Powerbook and iBook is because I can use wifi and lounge on the couch, in bed or out enjoying the weather. (I live in FL so it's nice enough to go outside in my shorts and iBook here) Caution though. it can make one turn into a couch potato ;-) -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Ron/ibooks ebay (was: Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS)
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 4:10 PM Not cool at all ! I'm pretty sure that's a violation of eBay policy and is sleazy at the least. And if he is overseas but the item is here in the states I would be very very cautious ! That is a very common scam used on Craigslist and other places laptops are sold. Thank you for confirming my suspicions! And funny, while looking around the past few weeks, I had ended up on that Craigslist site, too! Not even sure how I found it, probably google. I'll steer clear of that one. The G3-French guy, when I first replied to his first message (both of us using the ebay message center), I got an automated reply from a US Air Force email account which had English and French wording and his name. So I thought that was a good thing if he was in the military. But when I asked Mr. G3 in the next ebay message if he was in the military, he wrote that No, he was not, but he had access to that Air Force email account. Now THAT, I thought, was also really strange! ... unless he is dating some Air Force lady! ;-) BTW, he's also a 0 feedback person, a brand newbie on ebay, but then so am I so didn't want to hold that one thing against him. Anything I buy through on-line places like eBay I only pay with Paypal which will protect the buyer or USPS money orders. Nobody wants the US Postal Inspectors on their butt from mail fraud and it's even worse if a USPS money order was payment. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ I agree about PayPal and credit card thru PayPal, that way you get double protection if needed. And surprisingly, Mr. French-G3's item shows he does accept PayPal. -- Good to know about the USPS money orders and them sicking the calvary on fraudulent sellers! I didn't think of that! Thanks! Gail --- On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3/500mhz/55gig/384ram/Tiger guy actually sent me an ebay message asking if I wanted to look at his ebay item, and he listed the item #. When I asked how he knew I was even looking, he never gave an answer (I assumed he saw my name in another bid) but I wondered how cool was it for him to contact people like that who have bid on other items? I dunno, since I'm not an experienced ebay'er, maybe that's the norm and is no big deal. Then it turns out he's French but the item is in TX, and since his English (or maybe just his typing) is choppy, he doesn't write complete answers. So that was making me nervous even though his is a good-sounding-deal, too. So Yes, indeed, beware. Thanks! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
Van Snyder at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 2:43 PM snip I've got a yahoo email list and I just can't find emails anymore - I've reached the boggled-mind limit lol). ah, the beauty of Gmail. I would never argue against the merits of Tiger, but if the email is the one thing pushing you over the edge, you might want to consider moving to gmail. I would assume anyone with gmail would have plenty of invites - I know I have 100. --Van Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now. I'm using the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX. So I checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...? A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google... The Search and I think the other was Google Company. Maybe it's the same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it was a good thing. Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 3:55 PM And Gmail has none of that flashy crap all over the page that Yahoo seems to get more and more of.. I highly recommend Gmail and I was never a fan of on-line mail services until Gmail came along. I've never used webmail either... too cumbersome, too slow (or at least it WAS). Who wants to have to go log on the net just to get into your email? I had a Yahoo account for years but rarely used it and I use Gmail exclusively now. Wow, big switch. I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either. They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a waste of space. I don't like yahoo search engine either. I love google search, totally clean search page, no junk, etc. I don't use my ISP email at all because Gmail is so much easier. Wow, now THAT I would have to see and experience! ;-) I've used Gmail for a couple of years almost and have used 7% of my storage space and I could have thrown away a bunch more but I keep an archive of this list and 3 others. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ That's amazing... I may have to give it a test run with one of my lesser accounts and see how it feels. Thanks! Very interesting! I do LOVE google search feature, and I love all websites that have a google search feature. None others compare to it as far as I'm concerned. So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically incorrect opinions). Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
This is completely against ebay policy and you may be setting yourself up for a problem without the protection (such as it is) of dealing through ebay. Tom On 12/9/05 3:10 PM, Krow Magnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3/500mhz/55gig/384ram/Tiger guy actually sent me an ebay message asking if I wanted to look at his ebay item, and he listed the item #. When I asked how he knew I was even looking, he never gave an answer (I assumed he saw my name in another bid) but I wondered how cool was it for him to contact people like that who have bid on other items? I dunno, since I'm not an experienced ebay'er, maybe that's the norm and is no big deal. Then it turns out he's French but the item is in TX, and since his English (or maybe just his typing) is choppy, he doesn't write complete answers. So that was making me nervous even though his is a good-sounding-deal, too. So Yes, indeed, beware. Thanks! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, Tom Ethen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is completely against ebay policy and you may be setting yourself up for a problem without the protection (such as it is) of dealing through ebay. Tom I would file a complaint with eBay, but don't expect much to come from it. I had a seller repeatedly threaten me through eBay's messaging system and I filed a complaint but kept getting a form response from eBay asking for copies of the offending email including the header. Duh I responded 3 times that it was not email, but their own messaging system. I finally gave up after a while when I realized eBay does not care. This was all over the fact he was selling a G4 with Tiger and all the Adobe apps loaded so I asked him if the CD's were included because I wanted to bid on it since he was local. He responded that he would make copies of the OS and Adobe CD's for me. That's all I needed to let him know what I thought and he got a little po'd. Since he was a local seller and I had hoped he would find my address through eBay and show up at my house but he never did.. I'd have a shiney new dual-core G5 right now if he did. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Van, when I first heard of gmail sometime back I got excited about it and tried to sign up but at the time it said I didn't have the correct-something... maybe it was browser, can't remember now. I'm using the highest IE there is for OS9, so I'm stuck until I move up to OSX. So I checked again just now and it says something about by invite only...? Try Wacom Mozilla, it works fine with OS 9 and gmail: http://www.wamcom.org/ And you can get rid of Internet Exploiter hopefully ! Wamcom Mozilla handles a lot of the new sites too but you may still need Exploiter for site like Bank sites. Another alternative is iCab: http://www.icab.de A few days ago I saw two authors on TV who had written books about google... The Search and I think the other was Google Company. Maybe it's the same for all search engine companies, but the one man said google stores every single search done by every single person on the planet which, google says, is so they can come up with better services, etc., but this author said it could also be used, for instance, in divorce cases where a spouse could get all the search info on their partner, etc., so he didn't think it was a good thing. Wow, big switch. I've never used any yahoo accounts I ever made either. They almost make you have one just to use their other services, but it's a waste of space. LOL, that's the only reason I have one too. So what if they are saving all my searches, lol, I'm probably already considered a domestic terrorist (=by having politically incorrect opinions). Gail I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists ! I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any day. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
Tom Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 4:48 PM This is completely against ebay policy and you may be setting yourself up for a problem without the protection (such as it is) of dealing through ebay. Tom Thanks, I thought it was odd for hm to contact me that way, too. His G3 auction just ended and don't worry, I wasn't going for it... too many suspicious things with that guy. Somebody got a pretty 'good deal' though (IF Mr. French is for real and follows through): $391 for a G3-500mhz, 384mg, 55gig, Combo, Tiger, 12. Besides the Tiger, it was that 55gig that really turned me on, lol -- would never run out of space ever again! ;-) /Gail --- On 12/9/05 3:10 PM, Krow Magnum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3/500mhz/55gig/384ram/Tiger guy actually sent me an ebay message asking if I wanted to look at his ebay item, and he listed the item #. When I asked how he knew I was even looking, he never gave an answer (I assumed he saw my name in another bid) but I wondered how cool was it for him to contact people like that who have bid on other items? I dunno, since I'm not an experienced ebay'er, maybe that's the norm and is no big deal. Then it turns out he's French but the item is in TX, and since his English (or maybe just his typing) is choppy, he doesn't write complete answers. So that was making me nervous even though his is a good-sounding-deal, too. So Yes, indeed, beware. Thanks! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question
Krow Magnum at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 4:33 PM The advise I always give is spend as much as you can afford. I can't imagine 800MHz as only being adequate for Tiger. My 466 Clam does just fine with surfing, email and ebaying. My 1.5GHz G4 Powerbook doesn't do those things that much faster. A 300MHz G3 iBook would be pushing it but an 800MHz G4 iBook will handle Tiger with no problems. That's great to know. The G3-500mhz was just sold (Mr. Frenchy), but the G4-800mhz with No-OS ends at 9pm and one person already did bid on it finally. Don't think I can stay awake 'til 9pm... iBooks are made for Light duty use and he's comparing it to something you would need a G4 Powerbook or G4/G5 Powermac for. Anyone using high-end graphics apps or video apps should not be using an iBook anyway. iBooks are for the home computer user and an 800MHz G4 has plenty of oomph for that. As mentioned 512MB or better RAM helps too. Awesome! Then that G4 is a good machine for Tiger. No video apps or high-end graphics here, mostly Text Text and more Text, lol, and a few pics now and then. Now that you have fast internet you can get on the wifi wagon too ! heehee, would love to be completely wireless! Mr. French's G3-500mhz actually had an airport card (if he is for real, that is), as most of them do not include the airport card. The main reason I have a Powerbook and iBook is because I can use wifi and lounge on the couch, in bed or out enjoying the weather. (I live in FL so it's nice enough to go outside in my shorts and iBook here) That's the only place I ever do computing is legs stretched out on the bed. Sat crouched over a desk for too many years on the job. So this is the only way to compute! As for outside, enjoy while you can as this is THE ONLY time of year that outside is even bearable. -- Also a native Floridian -- but can't take the 7-months of humidity-h***. Ugh! Caution though. it can make one turn into a couch potato ;-) -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ heehee, too late, already happened -- even WITH wires! /Gail On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you! The G4-800mhz they are selling has 640mb which the specs say is the max for that model. Of course the G3-300mhz clamshell I'm using now has the bare MINImum, 128. Will Tiger function okay on a G3/500mhz ibook? The Tiger page at apple.com says Tiger will work on any PowerPC G3-G4-G5 but one seller had said 800mhz would be better and another comment at amazon someone said 800mhz was even too slow for Tiger. It'll function okay but whether it's fast enough is a subjective opinion. I'd say that with max RAM a G3/500 iBook would be more than adequate for light duty use, but if you do more than basic stuff you'll be much happier with at least a G4/800 iBook. Gene Osburn Common sense...isn't The G3-500mhz w/Tiger is the second item I was looking at, at ebay (in addition to looking at the G4-800mhz w/o OS). I guess I do basic stuff because have never had a machine big/fast enough to do much else, and only recently got high-speed cable and before that, a total bear to even visit ebay at all. The G3-500mhz has 384mb ram and a whopping 55gig HD. Which is all good if the 500mhz would work OK w/Tiger but since that's what he has on it, maybe it works fine. Thanks Gene! Gail -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Tom Ethen at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/9/05 4:48 PM This is completely against ebay policy and you may be setting yourself up for a problem without the protection (such as it is) of dealing through ebay. Tom Thanks, I thought it was odd for hm to contact me that way, too. His G3 auction just ended and don't worry, I wasn't going for it... too many suspicious things with that guy. Somebody got a pretty 'good deal' though (IF Mr. French is for real and follows through): $391 for a G3-500mhz, 384mg, 55gig, Combo, Tiger, 12. Besides the Tiger, it was that 55gig that really turned me on, lol -- would never run out of space ever again! ;-) /Gail There are not many good deals on eBay. There is a reason auctions end with a low price. For the same reason you didn't bid, there was probably something fishy there. You say 55GB will be enough ? LOL. wait till you have that much storage. You'll find a way to fill it. I used to think 4GB would be nirvana Now I'm thinking a couple of new 250GB drives would be enough for me. I only have an internal 80GB and a Firewire 120GB right now and that's not enough. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
In a message dated 12/9/05 5:07:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He responded that he would make copies of the OS and Adobe CD's for me. That's all I needed to let him know what I thought and he got a little po'd. Yeah, I guess most folks out there are not as diligent as you when it comes to citizen-software-piracy enforcement. Me? I would have just moved onto another seller without the piracy lesson. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/9/05 5:07:26 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: He responded that he would make copies of the OS and Adobe CD's for me. That's all I needed to let him know what I thought and he got a little po'd. Yeah, I guess most folks out there are not as diligent as you when it comes to citizen-software-piracy enforcement. Me? I would have just moved onto another seller without the piracy lesson. Life is a lesson.. and I'm not as generous at overlooking and forgiving (ignoring) as you are. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
In a message dated 12/9/05 5:46:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Life is a lesson.. and I'm not as generous at overlooking and forgiving (ignoring) as you are. Well, it was more ignorance on my part of the entire issue, rather than just being passive or apathetic. But I am sure MS and Apple would be just as anxious to protect YOUR property rights as well(?). (THAT was cheap!) Anyway, I hear you; thanks for the info! I will definitely be more aware of this issue in the future. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron/ibooks ebay (was: Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS)
On 12/9/05, BGbank [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The G3-French guy, when I first replied to his first message (both of us using the ebay message center), I got an automated reply from a US Air Force email account which had English and French wording and his name. So I thought that was a good thing if he was in the military. But when I asked Mr. G3 in the next ebay message if he was in the military, he wrote that No, he was not, but he had access to that Air Force email account. Now THAT, I thought, was also really strange! ... unless he is dating some Air Force lady! ;-) BTW, he's also a 0 feedback person, a brand newbie on ebay, but then so am I so didn't want to hold that one thing against him. It's getting realy fishy now And I would never make a large purchase from someone on eBay 0 feedback. Everyone has to start somewhere but that would be a risky thing to do for very much money. And CC-Paypal payments are covered but we all (consumers) end up paying the cost in the long run. Only Paypal and the theives make money. Paypal will still charge you a fee to give your money back. -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
On 12/9/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In a message dated 12/9/05 5:46:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Life is a lesson.. and I'm not as generous at overlooking and forgiving (ignoring) as you are. Well, it was more ignorance on my part of the entire issue, rather than just being passive or apathetic. But I am sure MS and Apple would be just as anxious to protect YOUR property rights as well(?). (THAT was cheap!) Anyway, I hear you; thanks for the info! I will definitely be more aware of this issue in the future. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo Ivy F., AL Roll Tide! Beiges, 'Books and other oddities xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxoxo -- I was protecting my rights and voicing my opinion which is also my right and I'm good at it ;-) ebay has a policy about not allowing pirated software but they do not police it because they are not liable because of the agreement when you sign up. Not being liable does not make one completely innocent in the matter it just keeps them out of civil court. The Phone company analogy doesn't work because they have no control over what you say or do until it is said or done. eBay has complete control over what is posted for sale or auction but they don't care enough to spend the time and money to make sure people are doing the right thing. Until someone complains loud enough and it may make them look bad.. I could honestly care less if Apple does anything to protect their own rights. That's their problem to deal with and they should but they don't want to spend the money on it. MS spends plenty on anti-piracy issues and because of their business practices people have less consideration for MS than Apple. Plus MS has much more licenses than Apple so it costs them a lot more money. And I would never expect anyone but myself to protect my rights, especially not MS, Apple or the US govt. (I just made it on another list with that one) -- Ron http://krowmagnum.4mg.com/ -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Ron/ibooks ebay (was: Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS)
LOL yeah right they recovered 97 cents on a purchase of $56.00 for me. Basically they said sorry that is all we could get case closed. Richard On Dec 9, 2005, at 11:54 PM, Krow Magnum wrote: And CC-Paypal payments are covered but we all (consumers) end up paying the cost in the long run. Only Paypal and the theives make money. Paypal will still charge you a fee to give your money back. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: John-Re: G4-iBook w/o OS
LMAO... On Dec 10, 2005, at 12:10 AM, Krow Magnum wrote: And I would never expect anyone but myself to protect my rights, especially not MS, Apple or the US govt. (I just made it on another list with that one) -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: Gmail Gbooks - (was: Re: Ron - Re: THANK YOU ALL! - Re: G4-iBook w/o OS - Question)
I'm sure you'll be in good company on those lists ! I'm on all the lists. I'd rather be politically incorrect any day. I do agree with you. Back on topic, I'm using Gmail with the POP3 turned on, with Mail on my Lombard, and I find it's a lot faster than the webmail, plus it has the beauty of the Mac to go with it.. :D Caleb -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook Logic Board extended repair program x2?
Hmmmph! How timely. First off, let me say that I am having the same problem with my G4 iBook, which, of course, Apple refuses to admit there is a problem with so they won't extend the warranty on those boards... But more on to your subject; my neighbor has a 12 G3 iBook which had it's first logic board die about 6 months ago. It was replaced when she took it to an Apple store and they shipped it out for repair. It came back with a cracked case plastic just above the trackpad and another cracked plastic around the LCD. I told her to complain... she didn't. Two weeks ago, it died again. She took it in and it just came back tonight... I took it apart to add a 512MB Ram module for her and found a broken piece of case plastic floating around under the keyboard... nice. Then I noticed that the Num Lock LCD on the keyboard was mashed over under the num lock key... also nice. I fixed the keyboard and removed the case plastic piece. After firing the machine up for about 30 seconds, it immediately began exhibiting the symptoms of a bad logic board again... the more we rebooted and the longer it ran, the worse it got. I think it's completely disgusting. There is no way they could have tested that machine for any length of time after they replaced the logic board. If this problem is still persisting even after they've admitted a problem, why have they not fixed the problem on the boards that are out there so it doesn't continue? I could rant on and on about this. The past few years, Apple hardware has gone right down the tubes. I still have a COlor Classic, SE30, PB3400, PowerMac 7300, and Wallstreet which are all running flawlessly with never any problems. I can't seem to keep new iBooks running for longer than 6 months to a year though... G3 or G4. I like the machine, and I will keep using it, but I back up VERY frequently and trust it about as far as I can throw it. Apple has left a very bad taste in my mouth. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
G4 iBook HD Problem
Hi Listers, I have enjoyed lurking for the past few weeks and following the informed discussion that goes on here. I have a problem with my G4 iBook that I haven't seen discussed yet. This October the hard-drive started to make a sound that makes me think that the head has gone into an endless loop because it can't find a sector. The drive just makes this non-ending swoop, swoop, swoop sound and the machine freezes. The drive has always been loud, and it makes this sound whenever it is active, but it usually only persists for a few seconds. When the hard-drive makes this continuous seek sound, all I can do is shut down the computer and wait for a while before rebooting. This happens every time I use the computer now. Sometimes it takes hours before this situation develops, other times just minutes. The drive is the original 30 GB (Apple's measurements, really 28 MB) Toshiba. It is a SMART drive and does not report any problems. I first suspected that the problem was overheating, but the temperature monitor software (by Marcel Bresink) that I installed shows that the hard-drive would stop responding at temperatures anywhere between 33 and 54 degrees Celsius, so I assume that it's not temperature related. The only other thing that I can think of that might have something to do with the problem is that in October I started using a Hawking USB wireless dongle so I could surf the Internet from the couch. Until then the computer had always been plugged into the wall (and ethernet to the Internet) when being used. My question: does anyone know what is going on? And, if the hard drive needs replacing, is it difficult to open the machine to do the replacement? (I have replaced drives in two previous G3 iBooks when they died-much different deaths, just giving up the ghost in typical hard-drive death scenarios.) Specifications of the computer: 12 G4 iBook (from January 2004, I think) OS: 10.3.9 CPU: 800 MHz L2 Cache: 256 MB Bus: 133 MHz Boot ROM: 4.7.7f0 640 MB DDR SDRAM Hard-drive: ATA Toshiba MK3021GAS 27.94 GB Journaled HFS+ Thank you very much for any help and comments. Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4 iBook HD Problem
On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Mike Vlasman wrote: Hi Listers, I have enjoyed lurking for the past few weeks and following the informed discussion that goes on here. I have a problem with my G4 iBook that I haven't seen discussed yet. My question: does anyone know what is going on? And, if the hard drive needs replacing, is it difficult to open the machine to do the replacement? (I have replaced drives in two previous G3 iBooks when they died-much different deaths, just giving up the ghost in typical hard-drive death scenarios.) Back up your data; what it sounds like is the drive is going into thermal recalibration endlessly, meaning it's on the verge of failing. Having to wait a couple hours for it to cool off to work is the key symptom. Since you've done this before, I'd say go ahead and replace the drive. PB repairs I can honestly recommend to anyone with reasonable physical dexterity and attention to detail; iBook repairs I'd only recommend to people with *proven* physical dexterity, *excellent* attention to detail, and a lot of confidence in your abilities. -- Bruce Johnson This is the sig who says 'Ni!' -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4 iBook HD Problem
On 08/12/05 13:03, Bruce Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 8, 2005, at 10:23 AM, Mike Vlasman wrote: Hi Listers, I have enjoyed lurking for the past few weeks and following the informed discussion that goes on here. I have a problem with my G4 iBook that I haven't seen discussed yet. My question: does anyone know what is going on? And, if the hard drive needs replacing, is it difficult to open the machine to do the replacement? (I have replaced drives in two previous G3 iBooks when they died-much different deaths, just giving up the ghost in typical hard-drive death scenarios.) Back up your data; what it sounds like is the drive is going into thermal recalibration endlessly, meaning it's on the verge of failing. Having to wait a couple hours for it to cool off to work is the key symptom. Since you've done this before, I'd say go ahead and replace the drive. PB repairs I can honestly recommend to anyone with reasonable physical dexterity and attention to detail; iBook repairs I'd only recommend to people with *proven* physical dexterity, *excellent* attention to detail, and a lot of confidence in your abilities. Wow! I didn't know I had all those qualities! I did replace the hard drives in my daughter and son's iBooks, plus replaced the motherboard in my daughter's one too on a different occasion. No missing or left over screws, everything works perfect. -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: G4 iBook HD Problem
Thanks for this, Bruce: Back up your data; what it sounds like is the drive is going into thermal recalibration endlessly, meaning it's on the verge of failing. Having to wait a couple hours for it to cool off to work is the key symptom. I have one new thought. Occassionally the Temperature Monitor software reports that there's no hard-drive sensor. Since the HD endless spin behaviour happens at various temperatures, could it be just a loose connection? Since you've done this before, I'd say go ahead and replace the drive. PB repairs I can honestly recommend to anyone with reasonable physical dexterity and attention to detail; iBook repairs I'd only recommend to people with *proven* physical dexterity, *excellent* attention to detail, and a lot of confidence in your abilities. I'd agree that the iBooks are a horror to work on, especially compared to the simple and beautifully designed PowerBook 100 that I need to open occassionally to coax back to life. I'd have to disagree about the other (very positive, mind you) comments and say that in my case, iBook HD replacement is a matter of good screw drivers and a very detailed list of steps taken and parts removed. Regardless of what is the outcome of this, I know what I'm doing over the holidays. Any recommendations for a 60 - 100 GB drive for the beast? Thanks, again. Mike -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook and high speed internet and cable splitter
Besides looking for a splitter that isn't cheap, you should know that most digital setups now want to run with splitters that will transfer at 1ghz... Go splitter shopping and tell me how many 1ghz splitters you find. You CAN find them, but your general run of the mill splitters that you pick up at walmart and whatnot are usually 800mhz. Cable internet and digital cable do not like running through an 800mhz splitter. Spend the extra effort looking for a 1ghz splitter and your results will be rewarded. I know Best Buy carries them, but they also carry the 800mhz variety as well (and quite a lot of them). You'll notice that the 1ghz splitters are usually quite a bit mroe money as well (ie ~$1.50 for a cheap splitter and more like ~$12.00 for a quality 1ghz one.) Sionnach __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook and high speed internet and cable splitter
Dear Listers, I recently hooked up my new iBook to high speed Internet cable via a new cable splitter. The TV and DVD player is also on the cable splitter. it worked find for 4 days. Then when I booted up, today, on my laptop, there was no response from the modem and I could not get online. I called tech support at the cable co. and determined that the cable modem worked fine, when it was the only thing hooked up to the cable outlet (the TV and VCR/DVD player not hooked up). Tech support told me that splitters wear out or burn out or something. He said I should pay $30 and order another cable outlet to be installed in the wall for the computer. Then I can use the old cable outlet for the TV and DVD player. His other suggestion was to get a good cable splitter from the main cable office and see if it lasts longer than the one I bought at Walmart. Has anyone had of such a problem? What kind of work-around worked for you? I'd rather not order another cable outlet, if possible. I'd like the TV, laptop, and DVD/VCR to all work off one cable outlet with a splitter. Any suggestions? Thanks, Jocelyn -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook keyboards
Hi Ruffin I think that if you want a keyboard that feels the same as the 500 ibook you need a Pismo with decent spec the Pismo is commanding a better price than I books at the moment! but on the up side the parts from your ibook G3 if the spec is good can be swapped into the Pismo (not from the G4 ibook Though. Are you UK Based or US if you are Uk based Get intouch with Malc Just ask up on the list he will see it as he is one of the only guys i trust to get powerbook parts from in the Uk. If you are US based Then sorry do not know (I am UK). Hope this helps vicki On Nov 20, 2005, at 1:21 AM, Ruffin Bailey wrote: I've got an iBook 500 and an iBook G4 1.2 GHz. The keyboard on the 500 has a great feel, but the Airport on that 'book has given up the ghost (doesn't appear to be the card) and the OS occasionally locks. The G4 'book is a super machine, especially snappy with 1.25 gigs of RAM, but the keyboard, well, stinks. An Apple Genius told me that I can't swap keyboards between the two and that the pins aren't the same. Dang. I'm thinking about unloading both and grabbing the latest version that shares the wonderful 500-style keyboard -- and saving some dough to buy an IntelBook as soon as it seems pretty stable. Anybody know what that latest version of the G3 iBook would be with the particularly good keyboard? Thanks! Ruffin Bailey -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Repair keybord lock on dual usb ibook G3
Hello everyone, I just got a new to me G3 ibook and the center lock on the keyboard locks then pops open after time. Is the a fix for this? I have used a small screwdriver to engage the lock. Thanks for help in advance Steve -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook keyboards
I've got an iBook 500 and an iBook G4 1.2 GHz. The keyboard on the 500 has a great feel, but the Airport on that 'book has given up the ghost (doesn't appear to be the card) and the OS occasionally locks. The G4 'book is a super machine, especially snappy with 1.25 gigs of RAM, but the keyboard, well, stinks. An Apple Genius told me that I can't swap keyboards between the two and that the pins aren't the same. Dang. I'm thinking about unloading both and grabbing the latest version that shares the wonderful 500-style keyboard -- and saving some dough to buy an IntelBook as soon as it seems pretty stable. Anybody know what that latest version of the G3 iBook would be with the particularly good keyboard? Thanks! Ruffin Bailey -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
IBook 800mhz dual usb spacebar
I am having a problem with the some keys on the keyboard. Sometimes it will not allow me to use space bar,delete key, tab key. This happens in all programs/applications. I am using 10.3.9, I have run disk utilities and techtool without any success . Anybody have suggestions? Thanks, bob -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook G3 14 startup problems
We have an iBook G3 800mhz 14 that has developed startup problems. Last year it was through the Apple extended repair program for the video/logic board issue and has been working well since. This week, it has been locking up during use (OS 9.1), shut down and restarted using the keyboard commands. I was told that one time it started up and exhibited the same garbled lines on the screen as it had before it went to Apple for the logic board repair. I haven't been able to reproduce that since, however. I have attempted to reset PRAM (letting it chime 3-5 times), reset the power manager using the keyboard commands, removed all power from it, let it sit for a few hours, attempted to restart using the power on key. Sometimes, upon attempt to restart I hear one long (2-3 second) tone before the startup chime. Sometimes I just hear the startup chime. In either case, I don't hear the drive spinning up or anything beyond the chime, and see no sign of life on the screen - it stays dark. I tried reseating and removing the memory with no change in results. Have attempted startup from both the AC power and just the battery (which is fully charged). Attempts to startup from a boot CD result in a startup chime, the sound of the CD drive spinning for several seconds, and then more silence and darkness. Suggestions? -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
ATA-6 in iBook G4?
Anybody knows for sure if an ATA-6 hard drive would work in an iBook G4? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin Developer, Multifamily, ESO, Fannie Mae mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Washington, DC, USA Usual disclaimers apply *** -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook CD Problem
On Nov 13, 2005, at 1:19 AM, Amanda Ward wrote: Hi All... I have a problem with my iBook (G3-500 Dual USB). It will not play an audio CD... keeps ejecting it... constantly! If I put in a program CD, it stays in and shows up on the desktop. I can't, for the life of me, understand what the difference is. Any suggestions or ideas Is it a regular audio CD or a CD-R? B -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
end of iBook display problem -- what's that burning smell?
The saga is over. This weekend I took apart my dual usb iBook 3 separate times to install a used (reportedly good) display. After the first two times, it all seemed fine for a few minutes, then flickered in an out, then finally the backlight went off. The third time the backlight never came on, but I could vaguely see the screen; enough to power down. I sat there and finished watching a football game, iBook powered down and closed on my lap, when suddenly I heard a popf, kind of like a Christmas tree bulb had blown. A metallic, burned-fuse kind of smell wafted from the back of the grill. I immediately removed the battery and resigned as chief mac mechanic of our household. As I sort through the wreckage in an attempt to salvage what still works, I have a few questions of those wiser than me. 1. What was that popfing sound, that smell? Dare I try to boot again? 2. I gathered from this list that a dead screen iBook that will still run an external monitor has a problem with the reed switch, the screen, or the backlight/inverter board. All of these are in the display assembly, or so I thought. The display I purchased was putatively good, but appeared to have the same problem as the original. Is there anything else that might have caused my problem, or was the second screen possibly defective as well? Thanks for any and all information Erik -- ## Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook CD Problem
Hi All... I have a problem with my iBook (G3-500 Dual USB). It will not play an audio CD... keeps ejecting it... constantly! If I put in a program CD, it stays in and shows up on the desktop. I can't, for the life of me, understand what the difference is. Any suggestions or ideas? Thanks, Amanda -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
Re: iBook CD Problem
on 13/11/05 01:19, Amanda Ward at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All... I have a problem with my iBook (G3-500 Dual USB). It will not play an audio CD... keeps ejecting it... constantly! If I put in a program CD, it stays in and shows up on the desktop. I can't, for the life of me, understand what the difference is. Any suggestions or ideas? Have you tried different audio CDs? -Laurent. -- Laurent Daudelin AIM/iChat: LaurentDaudelinhttp://nemesys.dyndns.org Logiciels Nemesys Software mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Mongolian Hordes technique: n. [poss. from the Sixties counterculture expression `Mongolian clusterfuck' for a public orgy] Development by gang bang. Implies that large numbers of inexperienced programmers are being put on a job better performed by a few skilled ones (but see bazaar). Also called `Chinese Army technique'; see also Brooks's Law. -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook g3 screen replacement....
Greetings, I'm in midstream on replacing the display of my iBook (g3, 600 mhz) and wanted to check in quickly. I bought a replacement display assembly on eBay and installed it. The computer booted up, and the screen lit up. I poured myself a drink, celebrated, went to bed. This afternoon the screen started flickering almost as soon as I fired it up. Tonight I plan to go back in and do the installation again. I suspect I may have missed an element or two, or not affixed things as tight as tight can be. For example, after behaving properly for the first few hours (orange/green) the power plug went dark, suggesting other connectivity issues. Based on these two diagnostic points (flickering screen, dead power plug) does anybody have any other words of wisdom? Regards, Erik Ness -- ## Erik Ness 608-242-7604 http://erikness.com New evolving site design; all feedback appreciated... -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
iBook display problem -- magnet orientation?
In follow to my previous post, the first thing I did was simply flip the orientation of the reed switch magnet. At least for now, the screen has ceased its flaky behavior and the battery is charging properly again. How strange is that? Cheers, Erik -- G-Books is sponsored by http://lowendmac.com/ and... Small Dog Electronicshttp://www.smalldog.com | Refurbished Drives | -- Check our web site for refurbished PowerBooks | CDRWs on Sale! | Support Low End Mac http://lowendmac.com/lists/support.html G-Books list info: http://lowendmac.com/lists/g-books.html -- AOL users, remove mailto:; Send list messages to: mailto:G-Books@mail.maclaunch.com To unsubscribe, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For digest mode, email: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Subscription questions: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Archive: http://www.mail-archive.com/g-books%40mail.maclaunch.com/ --- iPod Accessories for Less at 1-800-iPOD.COM Fast Delivery, Low Price, Good Deal www.1800ipod.com ---
