[Audyssey] Python and game programming.
Hi Josh and all, I decided to answer this question publically as to fill in any and all interested parties so I don't have to repete myself in the future. To begin with python you first have to visit http://www.python.org to download the Python 2.5 runtime libraries, shell, and development environment for your operating system. The graphical IDL environment stinks with Jaws and Window Eyes so I code my python apps in notepad, notetab, or similar generic text editor. Next, you will want to visit http://www.pygame.org and grab the pygame extention which will give you specific functionality for games. I have never used it so can't comment on how good or bad it is. I do know it is documented on the sight. If you wish to build MS Windows executable files rather than running your game as a script you will need the py2exe program from http://www.py2exe.org and install it. However, I'd like to caution you newbies to a point about python. In it's normal state python is a runtime language and is not usually compiled to an exe file, but it can be done with the proper tools. When compiled to an exe in order to redistribute that exe file you will need to ship a compiled copy of the Python runtime libs with your game product. You would do this by copying the pyd files from c:\python25\DLLs to your c:\my_game directory. Some other thoughts, and suggestions. There are other extentions like the pymidi extention which will allow you to play streaming midi files in your games. There is the py OpenAL extention which will allow you to use the powerful OpenAL audio system. There is also a pyhooks extention which will log standard keyboard and mouse events allowing you to get a better hold on Windows keyboard and mouse control generically. Josh wrote: > Hi, > > I've come to the conclusion that for me, python would be a good > starting language. Where can I get the required files from if I want > to make games such as pygame if that still exists? Also, can python > make complex games such as dungeon siege or a good quality lord of the > rings game? > Also, could you point me in the direction of a .exe compiler for python? > > Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] simon
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Re: [Audyssey] sarah manual
Hi Nicol, I guess you can think of it that way. In Science fiction teleporting is using a device to transport someone or something to another point. In fantacey and magic stories aparating is the same thing only using magical spells. Nicol Oosthuizen wrote: > NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice > which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf > > > Hay all > I'm busy reading the sarah manual. Sounds interesting! So if I > understand it correctly aparate is the same as teleporting? > Telepoert is a term that is used in science fiction movies and aparating > is the same but it is a term used in wizardry. > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] sarah manual
NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf Hay all I'm busy reading the sarah manual. Sounds interesting! So if I understand it correctly aparate is the same as teleporting? Telepoert is a term that is used in science fiction movies and aparating is the same but it is a term used in wizardry. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Reading audio game maker manule
Hello. I must admit I had the same problem with the manual. I suggest you start by reading about the main menue, and all the things that are on there. then, read about the game builder, and it's uses, then finally read about the building blocks. I will admit, there are stil a few things about specific building block uses that slightly puzle me with audio game maker, but I think when the example games are out and we can have a look at how they're put together, it'll become clear. Hopefully when the thing is released, the documentation will also get an update with more examples, and maybe even a reading order as well. Like everyone else, I'm sooo loooking forward to this thing. I have several game ideas, going from symple to full complex Rpg type games, but I'll wait and see how easy things are to put together, perhaps start with something symple and work on from there. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 1:21 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Reading audio game maker manule > Hi Everyone, >I have downloaded the instructions for the game maker but the files are > just in alphabetical order. I don't really know anything about > programming and have no idea where to start reading to get the feel for > the system. Could someone point me in the right direction? > > Thanks, > Yvonne > Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage > today! > > (361) 249-8739 > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] USA Games product ordering and registration.
Having a Cd would certainly increase the amount of memory available to play with, but I would stil want to play a demo of the game if possible. I will also admit that living in England, it does take ages for Cd's to arrive, and there is then possibley postal duties and such. I'm not saying I wouldn't buy a game on Cd (I bought Chillingham and Grizly), only that I'd have to think about it more carefully than with a game I could just download and play, especially if there wasn't a demo available anywhere. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: [Audyssey] USA Games product ordering and registration. > Hi Aaron, > To be honest at this point we haven't decided what to do about product > registration at this point. > There is allot of pros and cons to both ways. With a cd you can include > all the dependancies to install them which gives me 700 MB to play with. > However, many people do like downloading a game, punching in there key, > and they are ready to go. Allot of thought needs to be taken before > deciding on which way to go with this. > > > aaron danvers-jukes wrote: >> ok, this is off topic of the asteroids, but, how will buying games work >> at >> usa games? do yu buy a cd, or will it be one of those this is the full >> version. things? with a "register montezuma's revenge" utility, for >> example? >> regards >> aaron >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] audio game maker
>From what I've heard, this will indeed be possible. You just need the program if you want to edit the games. But apparently the games will be standalone applications. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:47 AM Subject: [Audyssey] audio game maker > Hi, > > Will audio game maker be able to make .exe files so you can play the games > you make without the audio game maker installed? > > Josh > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] sryth again
Nope, he's not holding the last item. There's ne other creature you need to find. The spider just gets in your way and can't be killed. It ain't pretty when the pretty leaves you with no place to go. J.D. Fortune, Pretty Vegas - Original Message - From: "Steve Cullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:33 PM Subject: [Audyssey] sryth again > Hi Everyone, > I am currently on the adventure called sleepless night. does anyone know > how to kill the spider? every time I try and kill him he runs away. I am > afraid that he is holding the last item I need to put in the boiling pot. > Any help would be appreciated thank you all very much. > Please feel free to email me at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sincerely, > Steve Cullen > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
Hi, I use jaws. The ide is 26mb. - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > Ah Josh, actually I wasn't planning on using it myself, I was simply > curious about it, as I'd seen it before but hadn't given it a > look... Which screen reader do you use? If the IDE isn't too large, > maybe > I'll dl it and give it a go to see if I can access it and let ya know, > K?... > > Smiles, > > Cara > > At 09:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >>if you can get its development environment to work with your screen reader >>let me know. >> >>Josh >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:32 PM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea >> >> >> > Tom, are you familiar with KPL at all? From what I know of it, one >> > of >> > it's creators is an MS alum and the language is heavily tied in with >> > the >> > .net framework, VB.net / C# >> > >> > It's billed as being a good way to get introduced to the above and >> > can >> > apparently be easily ported to VB / C#. >> > >> > That's about all I know about it at the moment, but will be looking >> > it >> > up a bit more this week, as I'm curious how it works... >> > >> > anyway, have a great night!... >> > >> > Smiles, >> > >> > Cara >> > At 08:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: >> > >> >>Hi Josh, >> >>Just because a programming language exists doesn't necessarily make it >> >>an optimum choice to do what you want.Nor does it mean that it will >> >>give >> >>you the skills to effectively program. >> >>I sincerely believe you should pick a popular, well documented >> >>programming language, that is very object oriented, teaches you the >> >>basics of programming, and find documentation that teaches good >> >>practices and skills. >> >>I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a >> >>new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. >> >>The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and >> >>decide >> >>to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch >> >>with little learned and little gained for your efforts. >> >> >> >>Josh wrote: >> >> > Hi, >> >> > >> >> > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming >> >> > languages >> >> > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better >> >> > or >> >> > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming >> >> > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . >> >> > >> >> > I'm going to download it and check it out then. >> >> > >> >> > Josh >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >>___ >> >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> >>visit >> >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> >>any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>-- >> >>No virus found in this incoming message. >> >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> >>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: >> >>1/13/2007 >> > >> > --- >> > View my on-line portfolio at: >> > >> > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn >> > >> > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each >> > other. -Then, anything is possible..." >> > >> > http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn >> > >> > >> > -- >> > No virus found in this outgoing message. >> > Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: >> > 1/13/2007 >> > >> > >> > >> > ___ >> > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> > visit >> > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> > any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >>___ >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > --- > View my on-line portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubsc
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
Ah Josh, actually I wasn't planning on using it myself, I was simply curious about it, as I'd seen it before but hadn't given it a look... Which screen reader do you use? If the IDE isn't too large, maybe I'll dl it and give it a go to see if I can access it and let ya know, K?... Smiles, Cara At 09:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: >if you can get its development environment to work with your screen reader >let me know. > >Josh > >- Original Message - >From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:32 PM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > > > > Tom, are you familiar with KPL at all? From what I know of it, one of > > it's creators is an MS alum and the language is heavily tied in with the > > .net framework, VB.net / C# > > > > It's billed as being a good way to get introduced to the above and can > > apparently be easily ported to VB / C#. > > > > That's about all I know about it at the moment, but will be looking it > > up a bit more this week, as I'm curious how it works... > > > > anyway, have a great night!... > > > > Smiles, > > > > Cara > > At 08:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: > > > >>Hi Josh, > >>Just because a programming language exists doesn't necessarily make it > >>an optimum choice to do what you want.Nor does it mean that it will give > >>you the skills to effectively program. > >>I sincerely believe you should pick a popular, well documented > >>programming language, that is very object oriented, teaches you the > >>basics of programming, and find documentation that teaches good > >>practices and skills. > >>I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a > >>new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. > >>The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and decide > >>to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch > >>with little learned and little gained for your efforts. > >> > >>Josh wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > > >> > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming > >> > languages > >> > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or > >> > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming > >> > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . > >> > > >> > I'm going to download it and check it out then. > >> > > >> > Josh > >> > > >> > >> > >>___ > >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > >>visit > >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > >>any subscription changes via the web. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >>-- > >>No virus found in this incoming message. > >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. > >>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > > > --- > > View my on-line portfolio at: > > > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > > > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
can pithon interface with directX then?
Josh
- Original Message -
From: "Nolan Darilek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Gamers Discussion list"
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
> Replying to both of these messages because I seem to have missed one.
>
> On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
>
>> I have the vb stuff but another language would be cool.
>> What restrictions is ruby over say c#?
>>
> A bit slower, but audio games are generally not as demanding as their
> graphical counterparts. You're also restricted to distributing the
> source with your applications as both are interpreted, though there
> are utilities for both to convert the scripts to windows executables.
>
>
>> At 08:52 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote:
>>> that sounds a whole lot easier. if i remember that looks like ruby
>>> code, as
>>> i've seen the midi scripter that emanuel borsboom wrote in ruby,
>>> and to
>>> script midi uses lines like that.
>>>
> Yeah, that's one of the more advanced features that I like--you can
> design what are called "domain-specific languages," mini-programming
> languages for doing very specific tasks. See, for instance, how I'm
> defining game menus in the game I'm planning to release after Torrent:
>
> menu do
> menu("Start game") do
> item("Easy") do
> WaveManager.difficulty = WaveManager.Easy
> Game.start
> end
> item("Hard") do
> WaveManager.difficulty = WaveManager.hard
> Game.start
> end
> end
> item("Configure") do
> end
> item("Exit") do
> Game.shutdown
> end
> end
>
> What I've done here is define a game menu with three items--"Start
> game", "Configure" and "Exit." The "Start game" menu item brings up a
> submenu with two items, "Easy" and "Hard." Each of these sets
> WaveManager.difficulty appropriately and starts the game. The
> "Configure" item does nothing for now. "Exit" shuts down the game.
>
> Now, none of that is standard Ruby. I'm basically developing my own
> mini-language for defining menus from within Ruby itself, and it's
> super easy. This is also very easy to extend to something like, say,
> game entity scripting, so you can easily develop mini-languages for
> creating missions, levels, etc.:
>
> ship do
> name = "CNV Titan"
> position = [100, 200, 0]
> speed = 0
> mode = :peaceful
> end
>
> or something similar. The possibilities are quite exhaustive for what
> can be accomplished with domain-specific languages.
>
> Anyhow, as I stated, that's a rather advanced feature of Ruby, but it
> gives you some sense of what is possible. It's an easy language, but
> no toy or Kids Programming Language. :P
>
>
>>> however, i didn't realise ruby could actually be coded in windows.
>>> i tried
>>> to download ruby but all i got was the interpreter. it didn't
>>> include any
>>> docs on how to script it or anything.
>>>
> Yeah, that's all there is to it. For a good introductory book, see:
>
> http://rubycentral.com/book
>
>
>>> and you say it can interface to dx? wow!
>>>
> No, I didn't say that. As far as I know, it can't. It does, however,
> work nicely with SDL which is a DirectX alternative.
>
>
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[Audyssey] creating a sample playable space /audio game maker?
I was thinking after listening to the sample of the audio game maker if it would be possible to give those of us who are completely ignorant of programming a little sample creation. I mean like they used to do in computer class, here's what you write or click on and here's what is supposed to happen. Like a little recipe for a tester. I want to make sure I understand the creation process. I seem to do that best when I have a sample to do and understand until I get it right. Yvonne Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage today! (361) 249-8739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
Replying to both of these messages because I seem to have missed one.
On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:35 AM, shaun everiss wrote:
> I have the vb stuff but another language would be cool.
> What restrictions is ruby over say c#?
>
A bit slower, but audio games are generally not as demanding as their
graphical counterparts. You're also restricted to distributing the
source with your applications as both are interpreted, though there
are utilities for both to convert the scripts to windows executables.
> At 08:52 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote:
>> that sounds a whole lot easier. if i remember that looks like ruby
>> code, as
>> i've seen the midi scripter that emanuel borsboom wrote in ruby,
>> and to
>> script midi uses lines like that.
>>
Yeah, that's one of the more advanced features that I like--you can
design what are called "domain-specific languages," mini-programming
languages for doing very specific tasks. See, for instance, how I'm
defining game menus in the game I'm planning to release after Torrent:
menu do
menu("Start game") do
item("Easy") do
WaveManager.difficulty = WaveManager.Easy
Game.start
end
item("Hard") do
WaveManager.difficulty = WaveManager.hard
Game.start
end
end
item("Configure") do
end
item("Exit") do
Game.shutdown
end
end
What I've done here is define a game menu with three items--"Start
game", "Configure" and "Exit." The "Start game" menu item brings up a
submenu with two items, "Easy" and "Hard." Each of these sets
WaveManager.difficulty appropriately and starts the game. The
"Configure" item does nothing for now. "Exit" shuts down the game.
Now, none of that is standard Ruby. I'm basically developing my own
mini-language for defining menus from within Ruby itself, and it's
super easy. This is also very easy to extend to something like, say,
game entity scripting, so you can easily develop mini-languages for
creating missions, levels, etc.:
ship do
name = "CNV Titan"
position = [100, 200, 0]
speed = 0
mode = :peaceful
end
or something similar. The possibilities are quite exhaustive for what
can be accomplished with domain-specific languages.
Anyhow, as I stated, that's a rather advanced feature of Ruby, but it
gives you some sense of what is possible. It's an easy language, but
no toy or Kids Programming Language. :P
>> however, i didn't realise ruby could actually be coded in windows.
>> i tried
>> to download ruby but all i got was the interpreter. it didn't
>> include any
>> docs on how to script it or anything.
>>
Yeah, that's all there is to it. For a good introductory book, see:
http://rubycentral.com/book
>> and you say it can interface to dx? wow!
>>
No, I didn't say that. As far as I know, it can't. It does, however,
work nicely with SDL which is a DirectX alternative.
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Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
it really doesn't matter anyway because that development environment isn't accessible with any screen reader. Josh - Original Message - From: "Nolan Darilek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > On Jan 15, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > >> I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a >> new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. >> The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and >> decide >> to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch >> with little learned and little gained for your efforts. > > Whole-heartedly agreed. I looked at the wikipedia article, and ugh. > No objects? Two types of blocks, functions and methods, and only > functions are allowed to return anything? Looks like a trainwreck of > a language to me. :) I don't really understand why he didn't just > teach his kids Ruby or Python, other than for the Microsoft-ish > reason of "if we didn't do it ourselves then it's worthless." :P > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
if you can get its development environment to work with your screen reader let me know. Josh - Original Message - From: "Cara Quinn" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > Tom, are you familiar with KPL at all? From what I know of it, one of > it's creators is an MS alum and the language is heavily tied in with the > .net framework, VB.net / C# > > It's billed as being a good way to get introduced to the above and can > apparently be easily ported to VB / C#. > > That's about all I know about it at the moment, but will be looking it > up a bit more this week, as I'm curious how it works... > > anyway, have a great night!... > > Smiles, > > Cara > At 08:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: > >>Hi Josh, >>Just because a programming language exists doesn't necessarily make it >>an optimum choice to do what you want.Nor does it mean that it will give >>you the skills to effectively program. >>I sincerely believe you should pick a popular, well documented >>programming language, that is very object oriented, teaches you the >>basics of programming, and find documentation that teaches good >>practices and skills. >>I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a >>new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. >>The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and decide >>to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch >>with little learned and little gained for your efforts. >> >>Josh wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming >> > languages >> > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or >> > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming >> > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . >> > >> > I'm going to download it and check it out then. >> > >> > Josh >> > >> >> >>___ >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> >> >>-- >>No virus found in this incoming message. >>Checked by AVG Free Edition. >>Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > --- > View my on-line portfolio at: > > http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn > > "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each > other. -Then, anything is possible..." > > http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Audio game maker sound file
I just heard the sample sound file for the game maker and it sounds easy enough. the voice is clear but some of the distinctions of different sounds types are a little hard to differenciate. I figure it will sound better when I have it installed on my system. Yvonne Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage today! (361) 249-8739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
Tom, are you familiar with KPL at all? From what I know of it, one of it's creators is an MS alum and the language is heavily tied in with the .net framework, VB.net / C# It's billed as being a good way to get introduced to the above and can apparently be easily ported to VB / C#. That's about all I know about it at the moment, but will be looking it up a bit more this week, as I'm curious how it works... anyway, have a great night!... Smiles, Cara At 08:38 PM 1/15/2007 -0500, you wrote: >Hi Josh, >Just because a programming language exists doesn't necessarily make it >an optimum choice to do what you want.Nor does it mean that it will give >you the skills to effectively program. >I sincerely believe you should pick a popular, well documented >programming language, that is very object oriented, teaches you the >basics of programming, and find documentation that teaches good >practices and skills. >I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a >new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. >The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and decide >to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch >with little learned and little gained for your efforts. > >Josh wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming languages > > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or > > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming > > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . > > > > I'm going to download it and check it out then. > > > > Josh > > > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
On Jan 15, 2007, at 7:38 PM, Thomas Ward wrote: > I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a > new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. > The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and > decide > to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch > with little learned and little gained for your efforts. Whole-heartedly agreed. I looked at the wikipedia article, and ugh. No objects? Two types of blocks, functions and methods, and only functions are allowed to return anything? Looks like a trainwreck of a language to me. :) I don't really understand why he didn't just teach his kids Ruby or Python, other than for the Microsoft-ish reason of "if we didn't do it ourselves then it's worthless." :P ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] encrypting sound files
What is the easiest way to encrypt files or is there one? I have purchased a sound pack from Sound Ideas and if I use them I don't want them stolen by someone. If enough people would steal Sound Ideas sounds then they'd go out of business and all programmers would lose a valuable source of high quality royalty-free sounds. Allen Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Web Site: www.fantasystorm.net -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] kids programming language
Hi, Don't bother downloading the kids programming language development environment. It is very much largely not accessible. Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Star trek games was Illegal activity
Hi Josh, Actually, I have a pretty good engine framework I wrote from witch to begin working on more complex games that I didn't have back with STFC. The Montezuma's Revenge Engine has taught me allot about creating 2d worlds, and I can always upgrade the engine to support a 3D world. Now, with the engine framework I have written I can write a Star Trek game with away missions, cut seens, and make it far more realistic than STFC ever was. I have several possabilities on the drawing board so to speak, and after Monty is out the door and Raceway is further along perhaps I will take up one of those other Trek products. Josh wrote: > maybe when audio game maker comes out you can take advantage of it and make > such detailed trek games then? > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
maybe when audio game maker comes out you can take advantage of it and make such detailed trek games then? Josh - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > Hi Michael, > That was an excelant post. > I do agree that when a game imitates another game the dev should take > care as to make it as well as they can to do many of the things the > sighted games do. There are differences though like in Montezuma's > Revenge I can not totally clearly remember the exact layouts of all the > temples. That doesn't mean though that the game play will be much > different in and that in other regards it is the same game. > As for Star Trek games I played Final Unity, Borg, and others and those > were really cool Star Trek games. I'd love to create one of that quality > someday. STFC was just a trial run, an experimental game, nothing more, > nothing less. > > > michael feir wrote: >> That would depend on whether the game you're playing is anything like the >> ones they are. If a game is merely a Star Wars game due to using sounds >> from >> that franchise but is totally different from anything sighted people are >> playing, then you don't really have anything substantial to work with. If >> serious effort is made to make storm troopers behave like those in the >> movies, or to take into account the physics of ships as described by >> whatever central technical information exists to determine all that, then >> you have more to talk about meaningfully. Sighted people could play >> something like Pong or Topspeed2 or Sonic Invaders and compare it >> meaningfully to the games they've played. I don't get a sense of playing >> an >> actual Star Trek game when I play Tom's Final Conflict game. The sounds >> and >> such just aren't enough for me to set aside what I regard as true Star >> Trek >> gamedom. The combat is just too capricious with ships being destroyed >> instantaneously. Listening to the shows, combat seems a lot more serebral >> than that. There's at least time to take evasive action, try to reinforce >> threatened assets, etc. I can wipe out a starbase with one ship's fire >> power >> and that just doesn't strike me as very correct. If you play something >> like >> Star Trek, A Final Unity as I was able to with my father's help way back >> in >> my high school days, that game could honestly be called a Star Trek game. >> They had the actual actors from TNG doing the voices. The story and >> dialogue >> were excellent and so were the sound effects. The game play truly put you >> in >> mind of the shows and did honour to the concept of Star Trek. Even the >> strictly combat games like Star Fleet Command were done in such a way >> that >> you felt that the gameplay better reflected the kind of thoughts captains >> had to make while fighting battles. That kind of consideration is one >> reason >> why people can be so protective of their franchises. They honestly don't >> want their vision to be degraded by people who don't have a proper sense >> of >> what it is and a proper respect for it. Nintendo did a masterful job of >> quality control using such protective measures and did a lot to revive >> the >> video game industry after the crash in the mid eighties. One of the >> problems >> back then were that everybody was trying to get money from video games >> and >> were making poor immitations of original games. The market was flooded >> with >> inferrior quality games and people were turned off. We're certainly in no >> danger of a crash now. If anything, we face the reverse problem where >> there >> aren't enough different titles and genres covered well to pull in more >> gamers. I think time and effort from developers will eventually fix that >> and >> is doing that already slowly. >> Michael Feir >> Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine >> 1996-2004 >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Lord of the Rings was star wars sounds
Taking into account all 5 books, that would sure be an undertaking! It sure would be cool, though. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Lord of the Rings was star wars sounds > Hi Josh, > Count me in as a LOTR fan. I'd love to see an accessible LOTR game. > > > Josh wrote: >> I guess the only other option then is just to quietly work on it and hope >> we >> won't get caught. >> By the way, how many lord of the rings fans are there on this list, or >> dungeon siege? Since we already have two people working on some star wars >> games, maybe I should give them the sounds, and hold off on makeing one >> so I >> don't accidentally rip off someone else's ideas. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Not sure if I suggested this before, but if you cannot remember the layout of a level, you can always look at www.gamefaqs.com They have full walkthroughs for most games. Also you could listen to speedruns of the game and ask a sighted person to describe something in the level. - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > Hi Michael, > That was an excelant post. > I do agree that when a game imitates another game the dev should take > care as to make it as well as they can to do many of the things the > sighted games do. There are differences though like in Montezuma's > Revenge I can not totally clearly remember the exact layouts of all the > temples. That doesn't mean though that the game play will be much > different in and that in other regards it is the same game. > As for Star Trek games I played Final Unity, Borg, and others and those > were really cool Star Trek games. I'd love to create one of that quality > someday. STFC was just a trial run, an experimental game, nothing more, > nothing less. > > > michael feir wrote: >> That would depend on whether the game you're playing is anything like the >> ones they are. If a game is merely a Star Wars game due to using sounds >> from >> that franchise but is totally different from anything sighted people are >> playing, then you don't really have anything substantial to work with. If >> serious effort is made to make storm troopers behave like those in the >> movies, or to take into account the physics of ships as described by >> whatever central technical information exists to determine all that, then >> you have more to talk about meaningfully. Sighted people could play >> something like Pong or Topspeed2 or Sonic Invaders and compare it >> meaningfully to the games they've played. I don't get a sense of playing >> an >> actual Star Trek game when I play Tom's Final Conflict game. The sounds >> and >> such just aren't enough for me to set aside what I regard as true Star >> Trek >> gamedom. The combat is just too capricious with ships being destroyed >> instantaneously. Listening to the shows, combat seems a lot more serebral >> than that. There's at least time to take evasive action, try to reinforce >> threatened assets, etc. I can wipe out a starbase with one ship's fire >> power >> and that just doesn't strike me as very correct. If you play something >> like >> Star Trek, A Final Unity as I was able to with my father's help way back >> in >> my high school days, that game could honestly be called a Star Trek game. >> They had the actual actors from TNG doing the voices. The story and >> dialogue >> were excellent and so were the sound effects. The game play truly put you >> in >> mind of the shows and did honour to the concept of Star Trek. Even the >> strictly combat games like Star Fleet Command were done in such a way >> that >> you felt that the gameplay better reflected the kind of thoughts captains >> had to make while fighting battles. That kind of consideration is one >> reason >> why people can be so protective of their franchises. They honestly don't >> want their vision to be degraded by people who don't have a proper sense >> of >> what it is and a proper respect for it. Nintendo did a masterful job of >> quality control using such protective measures and did a lot to revive >> the >> video game industry after the crash in the mid eighties. One of the >> problems >> back then were that everybody was trying to get money from video games >> and >> were making poor immitations of original games. The market was flooded >> with >> inferrior quality games and people were turned off. We're certainly in no >> danger of a crash now. If anything, we face the reverse problem where >> there >> aren't enough different titles and genres covered well to pull in more >> gamers. I think time and effort from developers will eventually fix that >> and >> is doing that already slowly. >> Michael Feir >> Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine >> 1996-2004 >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programming language .
Hi Josh, I am not up on the kids programming language, but I know noone in the Pro development community uses it. I also seriously doubt it is as powerful as C#, C++, or Python. See my previous message, but I really don't recommend taking this route of using one of these unconventional languages for starting out. Use a fully qualified and well documented language. Josh wrote: > Hi, > > I was doing a google search for programming languages when I came across > your site. I am blind, and use a screen reader called jaws version 7.0 from > www.freedomscientific.com . I'd like to know the following. > > 1. Does the free version of phrogram compile .exe files? > 2. will it work with jaws? if not, could jaws scripts be written to make it > work with jaws? > 3. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the development environment? which would > make it easier for me to use since I don't use the physical mouse. the > screen reader can simulate mouse clicks using keys on the numeric keypad. > 4. Can audio games be created using the free versions of phrogram? Here's an > example of what I want to do. > > The games I will make have no graphics in them or pictures of any kind. > instead they use sound at different points in the stereo field panning from > left to right or right to left. Suppose I make a space invaders type game. I > want to be able to say. > press the control key or f2 to activate a menu, choose machine gun from that > menu. the menu uses .wav or .mp3 files to guide the player through it. I > press down arrow in the menu and it tells me what choice I'm on by playing a > .wav or .mp3 file. so then I choose my weapon from the menu press enter. I > hear the sound of a plane panning from left to right from the left side of > the stereo to right side. When the sound reaches the middle or a certain > point in the stereo field, I can successfully shoot it down. If not, I > cannot and enemy lands and I loose some points. Also, can phrogram control > the frequency at which a sound is played, stereo, frequency, volume, pitch, > panning, optional surround sound, etcetera? So basically all of the audio > features of DirectX and phrogram, I am interested in. Is this language as > easy to use or harder to learn or use than ruby or pithon? > > Josh > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] tecno shock
Maybe they should, but I think they should wait for at least 6 months if they're going to be giving spoilers. - Original Message - From: "Sky Taylor" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tecno shock > BTW Karl, I just got to level 2, with good health(I think). Now, what do I > do in the alarm room, and where is the blue key to open the door in the > room > where the other robot is in? Maybe somebody should do a podcast of this > game > for BlindCoolTech. > - Original Message - > From: "Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:46 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tecno shock > > >> Hi, >> You pick it up near the end of the first level. >> Karl >> - Original Message - >> From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Audyssey Blind gaming Gamers discussion list" >> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:29 AM >> Subject: [Audyssey] tecno shock >> >> >>> It's a pitty that the s key doesn't work to switch on the acoustic site. >>> Have you guyhs tried e-mailing the developer? In the readme file an >>> e-mail >>> address is given. >>> As this is a beta version, they won't know that the acoustic site is >>> not >>> working if nobody brings it under their attention. >>> Isn't the acoustic site lying perhaps in a room to pick up? >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> __ NOD32 1976 (20070113) Information __ >>> >>> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >>> http://www.eset.com >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
Hi Josh, Just because a programming language exists doesn't necessarily make it an optimum choice to do what you want.Nor does it mean that it will give you the skills to effectively program. I sincerely believe you should pick a popular, well documented programming language, that is very object oriented, teaches you the basics of programming, and find documentation that teaches good practices and skills. I have a little bit of advice. There is a way that may seam right to a new programmer, but the end there of is disaster. The problem here i say you try this kids programming language and decide to go to C#.NET. You will find yourself starting all over from scratch with little learned and little gained for your efforts. Josh wrote: > Hi, > > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming languages > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . > > I'm going to download it and check it out then. > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] ruby or pithon
Hi Josh, I don't know about that, but I know python can do quite a bit of programming, and the pygame libs are ptty good. I've seen games written in pure python, and they aren't bad. Personally, I'd choose .NET or something else, but python would be good for early training. Josh wrote: > Hi, > > Didn't Jamal Mazury use ruby or pithon to make his text pal and other > software? > > Josh > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Lord of the Rings was star wars sounds
me too. maybe I'll see how this kids programming language works, and see what it can do. or I'll wait until audio game maker comes out and then try my hand at makeing an accessible LOTR game. Josh - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Lord of the Rings was star wars sounds > Hi Josh, > Count me in as a LOTR fan. I'd love to see an accessible LOTR game. > > > Josh wrote: >> I guess the only other option then is just to quietly work on it and hope >> we >> won't get caught. >> By the way, how many lord of the rings fans are there on this list, or >> dungeon siege? Since we already have two people working on some star wars >> games, maybe I should give them the sounds, and hold off on makeing one >> so I >> don't accidentally rip off someone else's ideas. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
I could give you dragon unpack if you want it. Josh - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:24 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > Hi Josh, > I have thought about it, but I don't have dragon unpack to wrip the > sounds, and I'd have to locate my Star Wars disks. > I know where Mysteries of the Sith is as I found it in a stack of stuff > while looking for something else. Jedi Knight, Dark Forces, etc I > haven't a clue where the disks are. > The other major reason is it is allot of pay for little return. I'd > really have to think it over before outright cloning someone elses work. > > > Josh wrote: >> then why not get software, rip the sounds out, and make the games? you'll >> probably have to make them freeware though. >> >> Josh >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Reading audio game maker manule
Hi Everyone, I have downloaded the instructions for the game maker but the files are just in alphabetical order. I don't really know anything about programming and have no idea where to start reading to get the feel for the system. Could someone point me in the right direction? Thanks, Yvonne Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage today! (361) 249-8739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi Michael, That was an excelant post. I do agree that when a game imitates another game the dev should take care as to make it as well as they can to do many of the things the sighted games do. There are differences though like in Montezuma's Revenge I can not totally clearly remember the exact layouts of all the temples. That doesn't mean though that the game play will be much different in and that in other regards it is the same game. As for Star Trek games I played Final Unity, Borg, and others and those were really cool Star Trek games. I'd love to create one of that quality someday. STFC was just a trial run, an experimental game, nothing more, nothing less. michael feir wrote: > That would depend on whether the game you're playing is anything like the > ones they are. If a game is merely a Star Wars game due to using sounds from > that franchise but is totally different from anything sighted people are > playing, then you don't really have anything substantial to work with. If > serious effort is made to make storm troopers behave like those in the > movies, or to take into account the physics of ships as described by > whatever central technical information exists to determine all that, then > you have more to talk about meaningfully. Sighted people could play > something like Pong or Topspeed2 or Sonic Invaders and compare it > meaningfully to the games they've played. I don't get a sense of playing an > actual Star Trek game when I play Tom's Final Conflict game. The sounds and > such just aren't enough for me to set aside what I regard as true Star Trek > gamedom. The combat is just too capricious with ships being destroyed > instantaneously. Listening to the shows, combat seems a lot more serebral > than that. There's at least time to take evasive action, try to reinforce > threatened assets, etc. I can wipe out a starbase with one ship's fire power > and that just doesn't strike me as very correct. If you play something like > Star Trek, A Final Unity as I was able to with my father's help way back in > my high school days, that game could honestly be called a Star Trek game. > They had the actual actors from TNG doing the voices. The story and dialogue > were excellent and so were the sound effects. The game play truly put you in > mind of the shows and did honour to the concept of Star Trek. Even the > strictly combat games like Star Fleet Command were done in such a way that > you felt that the gameplay better reflected the kind of thoughts captains > had to make while fighting battles. That kind of consideration is one reason > why people can be so protective of their franchises. They honestly don't > want their vision to be degraded by people who don't have a proper sense of > what it is and a proper respect for it. Nintendo did a masterful job of > quality control using such protective measures and did a lot to revive the > video game industry after the crash in the mid eighties. One of the problems > back then were that everybody was trying to get money from video games and > were making poor immitations of original games. The market was flooded with > inferrior quality games and people were turned off. We're certainly in no > danger of a crash now. If anything, we face the reverse problem where there > aren't enough different titles and genres covered well to pull in more > gamers. I think time and effort from developers will eventually fix that and > is doing that already slowly. > Michael Feir > Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine > 1996-2004 > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth and Mapping
Grace, Okay, thanks for the suggestion. I use excel on occasion but I don't know how to map with it. Do you think you could give me an example of how I might go about that? Thanks, Yvonne Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage today! (361) 249-8739 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Grace" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth and Mapping > Hello, > A really great way to map is to use excel. > That's what I do and it works great! > Have a nice day, > Grace > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Copyright issues was star wars sounds
Hi all, Steve Is right about this. The problem we face here is we are a very small community. When a dev expects to sell 100 to 500 copies of a game total we do not have enough sales income for the copyright holders to be interested. These guys think in terms of units of hundreds of thousands of units sold, and with Star Trek and Star Wars the amounte expected is probably more like in the millions world-wide. Hazbro, Activision, and other major game and toy manufacturers can give that income. We can not. > Steve Crawford wrote: > Tom has had dealings with Lucas and Paramount and I've had dealings with > Celador (Who Wants To Be A Millionaire). If they just asked for royalties, > as in a small percentage of the revenue, Tom and I would be happy to write > them a cheque every 3 or 6 months. However, they ask for upfront royalties. > In the case of Celador, they would normally take a couple of pounds per disk > so they ask for a projected sales figure for 12 months and want you to pay > all of that up front. And when you tell them you're going to sell a couple > of hundred disks they tell you that you're far too small and they would only > be interested if you were generating at least tens, if not hundreds, of > thousands of sales. > > Cheers, > Steve > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Copyright issues was star wars sounds
Hi Gerry, We can always ask, but the copyright holders won't necessarily grant permission. Either that or they will charge large royalties for it. Gerry Leary wrote: > is there a way to ask the people who copy writed the material to let you use > it? > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
Hi Ken, Well, both are pretty easy scripting languages, but I really enjoy the power and flexability of python 2.5. I know of complete screen readers, such as Orca for Linux, which is written almost completely in python, and is scriptable using external py scripts. I also like the fact python is very object oriented in design. There are quite a few modules you can get for creating games, accessing sapi, for python for Windows, and you might want to scope them out. Ken the Crazy wrote: > Which of these languages is easiest to learn, python or ruby, which is less > verbose, and which is more powerful? > Ken Downey > President > DreamTechInteractive! > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] monty engine? RE: Monty penalties.
Hi Nicol, No, the Monty engine is quite a bit different than the GMA engine. It is unlikely I will be producing it for resell to other developers. For one thing a person would have to know a fair amount of C#.NET to use the Monty engine, and it isn't yet streamline enough to design other games. Most of the stuff in the engine right now is specific to Monty. I'll like expand the abilities of the engine as I work with it and make new games. Nicol Oosthuizen wrote: > NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice > which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf > > > Quote > I suspect USA Games will > produce more side scrollers based on the Monty engine > end quote > So Thomas, am I understanding you correctly? You created a monty > engine? > Is it like david's GMA engine? Is it also an engine other developers can > use as is the case with phil using the GMA ENGINE? > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] USA Games product ordering and registration.
and the fact that if you do a cd that's probably the most simplistic way of ensuring a pirate cd being made, just like with gg and chillingham pirate copies could quite easily be done for them. i am looking at basing my product ids with the mac code of the system, something that the user cannot change, and base the code off the product id. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 12:30 AM Subject: [Audyssey] USA Games product ordering and registration. > Hi Aaron, > To be honest at this point we haven't decided what to do about product > registration at this point. > There is allot of pros and cons to both ways. With a cd you can include > all the dependancies to install them which gives me 700 MB to play with. > However, many people do like downloading a game, punching in there key, > and they are ready to go. Allot of thought needs to be taken before > deciding on which way to go with this. > > > aaron danvers-jukes wrote: > > ok, this is off topic of the asteroids, but, how will buying games work at > > usa games? do yu buy a cd, or will it be one of those this is the full > > version. things? with a "register montezuma's revenge" utility, for example? > > regards > > aaron > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > > > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi Ken, I think the problem we face is that companies don't look at people, and only seak the dollar signs before their eyes. We aren't much of a market to make them think twice about us. I mean even now most of the sighted games I have played for PC, PS2, Xbox, aare far above and beyond what the accessible games market is use to. They have the financial backing to really go all the way. In the Star Trek games for the PC such as Final Unity and elite Force they paid the actual actors to do the voice overs for the game. None of us can come close. In some of the Lucas Arts games they hired people to stand in for the parts like Mara Jade, and so on, but most of us don't have pro actors and actresses at our disposal to do that sort of thing. I do see Josh's desire to use the sounds etc as that is really the only way we can make our games have the same quality of sound as the pro games. If we are talking brands like Star Trek, Star Wars, Lord of the Rings, if you don't have the actual voices and effects any clone is pretty much junk, and just isn't the same. Ken the Crazy wrote: > What will these companies do anyway, sue? Let 'em! You can't get blood > from turnips, and whenever ethical concerns arise I invariably choose the > people over the company. If a beggar is starving, is it wrong for him to > steal a loaf of bread or two from a rich man? No--it's wrong for the rich > man not to help the beggar, and he pays for his apathy. I wouldn't worry > about getting sued though--how many ST games have been made for the blind? > Well, PCS made one, then GMA, and finally USA. That's three games, two of > which were sold--and they are absolutely loaded with sound effects. The big > companies know that it would be more of a waste of time to sue these very > small-time game companies than it would be to produce accessible games > themselves (not that it would be all that difficult.) That's why I say if > there's a game you want, talk to the companies that produce similar sighted > games. If they won't give you the time of day, make the game and relax. > Ken Downey > President > DreamTechInteractive! > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
Hi Nolan, Well, for Windows design the Microsoft Express compilers are wonderful things, but you do have a good point about languages such as Python. I often use Python to design concept games, or to work out a piece of language before converting it to something else like C#.NET. Another nice thing about Python is there are programs that will convert your py scripts to a Windows executable. Just for everyone elses information the thing about becomming a programmer is before you can write anything in any language you must learn the basic concepts like what is a variable, what is a function, class, while loop, object, you name it. Once you understand these things you will be able to learn languages easier. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] visual basic express
Hi Cara, I primarily use Window eyes as my day to day screen reader. I am not a Jaws fan although I am skilled enough at using it and scripting Jaws if I have to. Cara Quinn wrote: >Tom, are you using wineyes or Jaws? -or both? > > Smiles, > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] USA Games product ordering and registration.
Hi Aaron, To be honest at this point we haven't decided what to do about product registration at this point. There is allot of pros and cons to both ways. With a cd you can include all the dependancies to install them which gives me 700 MB to play with. However, many people do like downloading a game, punching in there key, and they are ready to go. Allot of thought needs to be taken before deciding on which way to go with this. aaron danvers-jukes wrote: > ok, this is off topic of the asteroids, but, how will buying games work at > usa games? do yu buy a cd, or will it be one of those this is the full > version. things? with a "register montezuma's revenge" utility, for example? > regards > aaron > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Lord of the Rings was star wars sounds
Hi Josh, Count me in as a LOTR fan. I'd love to see an accessible LOTR game. Josh wrote: > I guess the only other option then is just to quietly work on it and hope we > won't get caught. > By the way, how many lord of the rings fans are there on this list, or > dungeon siege? Since we already have two people working on some star wars > games, maybe I should give them the sounds, and hold off on makeing one so I > don't accidentally rip off someone else's ideas. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi Josh, I have thought about it, but I don't have dragon unpack to wrip the sounds, and I'd have to locate my Star Wars disks. I know where Mysteries of the Sith is as I found it in a stack of stuff while looking for something else. Jedi Knight, Dark Forces, etc I haven't a clue where the disks are. The other major reason is it is allot of pay for little return. I'd really have to think it over before outright cloning someone elses work. Josh wrote: > then why not get software, rip the sounds out, and make the games? you'll > probably have to make them freeware though. > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] tecno shock
BTW Karl, I just got to level 2, with good health(I think). Now, what do I do in the alarm room, and where is the blue key to open the door in the room where the other robot is in? Maybe somebody should do a podcast of this game for BlindCoolTech. - Original Message - From: "Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 6:46 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] tecno shock > Hi, > You pick it up near the end of the first level. > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "nicol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Audyssey Blind gaming Gamers discussion list" > Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 9:29 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] tecno shock > > >> It's a pitty that the s key doesn't work to switch on the acoustic site. >> Have you guyhs tried e-mailing the developer? In the readme file an >> e-mail >> address is given. >> As this is a beta version, they won't know that the acoustic site is >> not >> working if nobody brings it under their attention. >> Isn't the acoustic site lying perhaps in a room to pick up? >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> __ NOD32 1976 (20070113) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi Josh, Well, perhaps, but you would have to be very careful about it. Once a person is served with a sease and desist letter continuing to distribute a product could result in further legal action. However, I don't they can really stop it circulating as say 100 people download it those 100 have it and can share amung others. Josh wrote: > but then if you take it down, or if they tell you to take it down, couldn't > you distribute it privately on cd through email requests? > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] visual basic express
Hi Josh, None of the Express versions come with documentation out of the box. They are very light ore barebones compilers and IDES. As I suggested in a prier post install the .NET Framework SDK 2.0, the full sdk, prier to installing the Express versions and you will get the complete .NET Framework documentation which is some great documentation for understanding how the frameworks and is to be incorperated in to your applications. Josh wrote: > if someone can confirm that it comes with some sort of offline help system > and it works good with jaws7.0 then I'll get rid of my vb6 since it's not > mine anyway since I got it from file-shareing and use vb-express 2005. > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi Josh, It might. Most sighties would probably think it was cool even if they couldn't play it themselves. Josh wrote: > also, wouldn't being able to tell your sighted friends if you had any that > you have a star wars game similar to theirs and you beat this level or that > level give you something more in common with them? > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Star Wars games was star wars sounds
Hi Josh, Well, I don't believe either Sthe USa Games or Light Tech games will be like the commercial Star Wars games out there, and the story lines are probably allot different. As I understand it you were planning to clone an existing commercial SW game and make it accessible. Josh wrote: > no I won't forget about that. you know, with at least two or more star wars > games in production right now, maybe it would be best not to make my own > just in case I would accidentally rip off someone else's ideas? > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] to proove my point about game developers - Re: sarah
Hi Josh, No. Hense the word Express. A small compact version of Visual Basic, Visual C#, Visual C++ without all the trimmings of the Pro or enterprise edditions. Rather than getting the msdn I suggest getting the full .NET Framework 2.0 sdk and installing it before putting on any of the Express compilers as you will get the .NET Framework documentations and samples. The Express cds and web installs don't include this documentation either. The Express versions are basically a barebones version of the compiler and IDE. Josh wrote: > yes, but I also want to consider the fact that what if someday I am > restricted to dial-up or something like that. Does the express edition come > with the msdn libraries so I don't have to be connected to the internet to > get help or look up code? > > Josh > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws
try space bar At 04:13 a.m. 16/01/2007, you wrote: >Hi Simon, >I would like to have a look at techno shock but when I went to the website I >could not press enter on the download button can you help? >(ps I don't know if you remember but we wnet to school together, my last >name was Barnett). >- Original Message - >From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >To: "Gamers Discussion list" >Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:31 AM >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > > >> hi mich, when I launch the game, hal automatically shuts up, I don't have >> to >> turn it off, and when I quit the game, hal comes back automatically. >> I no it doesn't help you, but there you go. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "gamers discussion list" >> Cc: "blind gamers" >> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:51 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws >> >> >>> hello all. I have downloaded the game tecknoshock. I have a problum >>> though. the problum i have is let's say i finnish playing the game and >>> want to exitwell after i do this i can't seem to re load jaws. The only >>> way i have found around this problum is to re start my computer. I sent >>> the develiper a message about this problum and hear's what he said Hi >>> Mich, >>> >>> You wrote: >>> I have good news. I managed to download the game and it seems to work. >>> >>> I'm glad to hear it! >>> the only problem I have is when I am exiting after exiting I can't seem to re load jaws using alt control j. >>> >>> Not recommended run JAWS during the game. You must quit the game, after >>> quit the game press Alt + Control + J to load JAWS. >>> >>> JAWS isn't necessary for play the game. When the game was started and you >>> run JAWS, JAWS don't take control of your computer. >>> >>> If you want to load JAWS during the game playing, you must open any >>> application (such as Windows Explorer) before start the game. >>> Then start game, then unload JAWS, then move a focus to other application >>> (such as Windows Explorer) by pressing ALT+TAB. Now you >>> able to load JAWS. When you move the focus to other application, the game >>> sounds will quiet. When you return the focus on the game >>> window, you shall hear sounds again. However JAWS will be embarrass you, >>> because it intercept many keystrokes. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Anatol. Any help that any one can give me with this problumwould be >>> grait. >>> many thanks. from Mich Verrier. >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] audiogamemaker audio
hi. can someone please explain the audiogamemaker recording to me? it's a little confusing. i hear sounds being selected, i hear some of the speech muffled, i hear some sort of door sounds, water dripping, i don't hear any change in the acoustics when it's been set to cathedral, i'm confused. regards, damien ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] sryth again
Hi Everyone, I am currently on the adventure called sleepless night. does anyone know how to kill the spider? every time I try and kill him he runs away. I am afraid that he is holding the last item I need to put in the boiling pot. Any help would be appreciated thank you all very much. Please feel free to email me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sincerely, Steve Cullen ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includesfirstaudioimpression)
yeah, I can't wait until it comes out. I bet once its out of beta we'll see tons of games being produced for blind people to play and maybe we can even increase our numbers on this list as well. Josh - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:50 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includesfirstaudioimpression) > That is the absolute coolest program and easiest game ingine I've ever > seen > or heard of. Cay you put dialog in the game aas well? > > Tim > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includesfirstaudioimpression)
I'd like to make an accessible version of soul calibur. Oh and I want to make an accessible version of the rpg game, dungeon siege. Josh - Original Message - From: "Yohandy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includesfirstaudioimpression) This is absolutely awesome! Now I'm all excited for it. Just imagine the possibilities! Anyone planning on making a fighting game? - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes firstaudioimpression) Thanks for the compliment! - Original Message - From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression) > Well i guess the real bugs will appear when the "hundreds" of people will > download it and will make games with it, so i think a beta release is > extremely ok. > I've just listened to the short preview, it sounds awesome. > > - Original Message - > From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 +0100 > Subject: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio > impression) > >> Hi Folks! >> >> Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time >> constraints >> we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive >> testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 >> a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released >> Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some >> specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! >> >> On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an >> mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 >> >> In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a >> new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a >> property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You >> will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the >> Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio >> Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the >> World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to >> "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for >> this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added >> to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in >> front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set >> the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. >> >> Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of >> Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the >> final soundmix. >> >> Greets, >> >> Richard >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com >> http://www.audiogames.net >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] kids programming language for games
Hi, In case you're interested about kids programming language for games, here is a wikipedia article on it. the link is: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kids_Programming_Language and you can get the development environment for free at www.phrogram.com Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes firstaudioimpression)
This is absolutely awesome! Now I'm all excited for it. Just imagine the possibilities! Anyone planning on making a fighting game? - For an amazing video gaming site containing original soundtracks, game art, etc, go here. http://gh.ffshrine.org?r=16426 - Original Message - From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes firstaudioimpression) Thanks for the compliment! - Original Message - From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression) > Well i guess the real bugs will appear when the "hundreds" of people will > download it and will make games with it, so i think a beta release is > extremely ok. > I've just listened to the short preview, it sounds awesome. > > - Original Message - > From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 +0100 > Subject: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio > impression) > >> Hi Folks! >> >> Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time >> constraints >> we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive >> testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 >> a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released >> Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some >> specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! >> >> On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an >> mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 >> >> In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a >> new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a >> property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You >> will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the >> Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio >> Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the >> World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to >> "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for >> this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added >> to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in >> front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set >> the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. >> >> Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of >> Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the >> final soundmix. >> >> Greets, >> >> Richard >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com >> http://www.audiogames.net >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes firstaudioimpression)
That is the absolute coolest program and easiest game ingine I've ever seen or heard of. Cay you put dialog in the game aas well? Tim ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression)
Thanks for the compliment! - Original Message - From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression) > Well i guess the real bugs will appear when the "hundreds" of people will > download it and will make games with it, so i think a beta release is > extremely ok. > I've just listened to the short preview, it sounds awesome. > > - Original Message - > From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 +0100 > Subject: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio > impression) > >> Hi Folks! >> >> Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time >> constraints >> we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive >> testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 >> a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released >> Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some >> specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! >> >> On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an >> mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 >> >> In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a >> new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a >> property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You >> will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the >> Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio >> Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the >> World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to >> "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for >> this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added >> to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in >> front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set >> the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. >> >> Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of >> Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the >> final soundmix. >> >> Greets, >> >> Richard >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com >> http://www.audiogames.net >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws
Hi Simon Thanks for that. Maybe you'll email me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and let me know what you have been up to - Original Message - From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:22 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws >I have sent it you direct. > yes I do remember you. > hth > - Original Message - > From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:13 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > > >> Hi Simon, >> I would like to have a look at techno shock but when I went to the >> website >> I >> could not press enter on the download button can you help? >> (ps I don't know if you remember but we wnet to school together, my last >> name was Barnett). >> - Original Message - >> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:31 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws >> >> >>> hi mich, when I launch the game, hal automatically shuts up, I don't >>> have >>> to >>> turn it off, and when I quit the game, hal comes back automatically. >>> I no it doesn't help you, but there you go. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "gamers discussion list" >>> Cc: "blind gamers" >>> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:51 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws >>> >>> hello all. I have downloaded the game tecknoshock. I have a problum though. the problum i have is let's say i finnish playing the game and want to exitwell after i do this i can't seem to re load jaws. The only way i have found around this problum is to re start my computer. I sent the develiper a message about this problum and hear's what he said Hi Mich, You wrote: > I have good news. I managed to download the game and it seems to work. I'm glad to hear it! > the only problem I have is when I am exiting after exiting I can't > seem > to re load jaws using alt control j. Not recommended run JAWS during the game. You must quit the game, after quit the game press Alt + Control + J to load JAWS. JAWS isn't necessary for play the game. When the game was started and you run JAWS, JAWS don't take control of your computer. If you want to load JAWS during the game playing, you must open any application (such as Windows Explorer) before start the game. Then start game, then unload JAWS, then move a focus to other application (such as Windows Explorer) by pressing ALT+TAB. Now you able to load JAWS. When you move the focus to other application, the game sounds will quiet. When you return the focus on the game window, you shall hear sounds again. However JAWS will be embarrass you, because it intercept many keystrokes. Best regards, Anatol. Any help that any one can give me with this problumwould be grait. many thanks. from Mich Verrier. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kidsprogramminglanguage .
oops. sorry about that. Josh - Original Message - From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kidsprogramminglanguage . > lol you've just emailed the audyssey list ... > > > regards, > > damien > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Cc: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:17 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids > programminglanguage > . > > >> Hi, >> >> I was doing a google search for programming languages when I came across >> your site. I am blind, and use a screen reader called jaws version 7.0 > from >> www.freedomscientific.com . I'd like to know the following. >> >> 1. Does the free version of phrogram compile .exe files? >> 2. will it work with jaws? if not, could jaws scripts be written to make > it >> work with jaws? >> 3. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the development environment? which > would >> make it easier for me to use since I don't use the physical mouse. the >> screen reader can simulate mouse clicks using keys on the numeric keypad. >> 4. Can audio games be created using the free versions of phrogram? Here's > an >> example of what I want to do. >> >> The games I will make have no graphics in them or pictures of any kind. >> instead they use sound at different points in the stereo field panning > from >> left to right or right to left. Suppose I make a space invaders type >> game. > I >> want to be able to say. >> press the control key or f2 to activate a menu, choose machine gun from > that >> menu. the menu uses .wav or .mp3 files to guide the player through it. I >> press down arrow in the menu and it tells me what choice I'm on by >> playing > a >> .wav or .mp3 file. so then I choose my weapon from the menu press enter. >> I >> hear the sound of a plane panning from left to right from the left side >> of >> the stereo to right side. When the sound reaches the middle or a certain >> point in the stereo field, I can successfully shoot it down. If not, I >> cannot and enemy lands and I loose some points. Also, can phrogram >> control >> the frequency at which a sound is played, stereo, frequency, volume, > pitch, >> panning, optional surround sound, etcetera? So basically all of the audio >> features of DirectX and phrogram, I am interested in. Is this language as >> easy to use or harder to learn or use than ruby or pithon? >> >> Josh >> >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> AOL: kutztownstudent >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype: jkenn337 >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question :kids programminglanguage .
oh ok lol regards, damien - Original Message - From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 8:10 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question :kids programminglanguage . > > Not true, he only sent a Carbon Copy (cc) to the list. > > - Original Message - > From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:02:21 - > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids > programminglanguage . > > > lol you've just emailed the audyssey list ... > > > > > > regards, > > > > damien > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio impression)
Hi Richard, thanks for the demo. You're voice over talent is excellent!!! Who is she?... Smiles, Cara At 07:24 PM 1/15/2007 +0100, you wrote: >Hi Folks! > >Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time constraints >we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive >testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 >a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released >Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some >specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! > >On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an >mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: > >http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 > >In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a >new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a >property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You will >then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the Player >Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio >Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the World >Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to >"cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for >this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added to >the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in front >of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set the >properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. > >Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of >Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the >final soundmix. > >Greets, > >Richard > >http://www.audiogamemaker.com >http://www.audiogames.net >___ >Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >any subscription changes via the web. > > > > >-- >No virus found in this incoming message. >Checked by AVG Free Edition. >Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 --- View my on-line portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn "The only things I really think are important, are love, and each other. -Then, anything is possible..." http://home.earthlink.net/~cara-quinn -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] audio game maker
Yes ;) - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 7:47 PM Subject: [Audyssey] audio game maker > Hi, > > Will audio game maker be able to make .exe files so you can play the games > you make without the audio game maker installed? > > Josh > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programminglanguage .
Not true, he only sent a Carbon Copy (cc) to the list. - Original Message - From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 20:02:21 - Subject: Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programminglanguage . > lol you've just emailed the audyssey list ... > > > regards, > > damien > > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression)
yeah I can't wait to see what it's like! Josh - Original Message - From: "rob" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:02 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audioimpression) > Well i guess the real bugs will appear when the "hundreds" of people will > download it and will make games with it, so i think a beta release is > extremely ok. > I've just listened to the short preview, it sounds awesome. > > - Original Message - > From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" > Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 +0100 > Subject: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio > impression) > >> Hi Folks! >> >> Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time >> constraints >> we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive >> testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 >> a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released >> Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some >> specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! >> >> On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an >> mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 >> >> In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a >> new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a >> property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You >> will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the >> Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio >> Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the >> World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to >> "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for >> this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added >> to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in >> front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set >> the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. >> >> Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of >> Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the >> final soundmix. >> >> Greets, >> >> Richard >> >> http://www.audiogamemaker.com >> http://www.audiogames.net >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programminglanguage .
lol you've just emailed the audyssey list ... regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programminglanguage . > Hi, > > I was doing a google search for programming languages when I came across > your site. I am blind, and use a screen reader called jaws version 7.0 from > www.freedomscientific.com . I'd like to know the following. > > 1. Does the free version of phrogram compile .exe files? > 2. will it work with jaws? if not, could jaws scripts be written to make it > work with jaws? > 3. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the development environment? which would > make it easier for me to use since I don't use the physical mouse. the > screen reader can simulate mouse clicks using keys on the numeric keypad. > 4. Can audio games be created using the free versions of phrogram? Here's an > example of what I want to do. > > The games I will make have no graphics in them or pictures of any kind. > instead they use sound at different points in the stereo field panning from > left to right or right to left. Suppose I make a space invaders type game. I > want to be able to say. > press the control key or f2 to activate a menu, choose machine gun from that > menu. the menu uses .wav or .mp3 files to guide the player through it. I > press down arrow in the menu and it tells me what choice I'm on by playing a > .wav or .mp3 file. so then I choose my weapon from the menu press enter. I > hear the sound of a plane panning from left to right from the left side of > the stereo to right side. When the sound reaches the middle or a certain > point in the stereo field, I can successfully shoot it down. If not, I > cannot and enemy lands and I loose some points. Also, can phrogram control > the frequency at which a sound is played, stereo, frequency, volume, pitch, > panning, optional surround sound, etcetera? So basically all of the audio > features of DirectX and phrogram, I am interested in. Is this language as > easy to use or harder to learn or use than ruby or pithon? > > Josh > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth and Mapping
Hello, A really great way to map is to use excel. That's what I do and it works great! Have a nice day, Grace - Original Message - From: "ShadowDragon" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth and Mapping > Being a dungeon master of Sryth I have to say Daggerspire is one of the > easier dungeons in the game, not even worth manual mapping. You could get > by > just fine using the text map overview most likely. I'm not sure how easy > dungeon navigation is for you, but I personally have been through > Stoneback > hill even without using a map, I just go on instinct. Daggerspire is > basically straight passages, with a few side branches. As long as you keep > track of where you are and where you've been and are good at retracing > your > steps, you should be able to explore each level no problem. Its been a > while > since I played the dungeon, but I'd be willing to wager each level is > between 15 and 30 rooms, nothing to get stressed over. Have fun, and good > luck. If you're still having problems I might be able to think of > something > more. But for now that's about all the advice I can offer. > - Original Message - > From: "Yvonne Alaniz" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 12:53 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth and Mapping > > >> Okay, I am in Daggerspire and I am trying tacks and cardboard as a map >> but >> the problem is that my map always gets bunched up and looks like squares. >> I had someone look at the graphical map and he said that the map was >> drawn >> on a 10x10 grid and that walls were represented on the grid but not on my >> map. He said that if I continued mapping I would just get a big grid of >> tacks. Please help. I am now lost in the second level of daggerspire. >> >> Yvonne >> Stressed out? Need to relax? Call Yvonne and schedule your massage >> today! >> >> (361) 249-8739 >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/625 - Release Date: 1/13/2007 > 5:40 PM > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth
No, you need to have random encounters in Trithic until you see that Dusk Dragon. - Original Message - From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:06 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Sryth > hi you need to carry it with you, and explore the realms at random. > when you see the dusk dragon in the sky, she will collect it off of you, > and > reward you. > - Original Message - > From: "Steve Cullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 11:40 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth > > >> Hi Everyone, >> I have received a dragon egg. Does anyone know what I'm supposed to do >> with this dragon egg? Any help would be appreciated thank you all very >> much. >> Please feel free to email me at >> [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> Sincerely,, >> Steve Cullen >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.12/628 - Release Date: 1/15/2007 > 11:04 AM > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio impression)
Well i guess the real bugs will appear when the "hundreds" of people will download it and will make games with it, so i think a beta release is extremely ok. I've just listened to the short preview, it sounds awesome. - Original Message - From: "AudioGames.net" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion list for blind gamers" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 19:24:49 +0100 Subject: [Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio impression) > Hi Folks! > > Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time constraints > we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive > testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 > a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released > Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some > specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! > > On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an > mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: > > http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 > > In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a > new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a > property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You > will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the > Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio > Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the > World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to > "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for > this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added > to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in > front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set > the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. > > Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of > Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the > final soundmix. > > Greets, > > Richard > > http://www.audiogamemaker.com > http://www.audiogames.net > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] audio game maker
Hi, Will audio game maker be able to make .exe files so you can play the games you make without the audio game maker installed? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Cricket
what is battrick. - Original Message - From: "Willem" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:28 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket >I endorse! > Btw Who of you plays battrick on here? > - Original Message - > From: "mark bishop" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:05 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket > > >> Just wanted to add my voice to the call for an accessible cricket game. >> - Original Message - >> From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 7:40 AM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Cricket >> >> >>> hi mark, I did send the aski code to a couple of members to develope the >>> game from the old eureka days, but haven't heard anything for ages. >>> I no Quinton pendal from south Africa was planning a project for further >>> developing the game, but I think he's busy with other stuff at the mo. >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Mark Pemberton" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>> To: "gamers discussion list" >>> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2007 3:20 PM >>> Subject: [Audyssey] Cricket >>> >>> Does anyone know if there's an accessible PC Cricket game out there? Is there an English version of Jim Kitchen who could developed one? I've played a couple of board games such as "Wickitz" for example, with a great deal of sighted assistance, of course and hope one might be in the works. Ps. When I say English I mean non American as they have no knowledge of the beautiful game at all! Grin. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.0.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: >> 2007/01/15 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.0.410 / Virus Database: 268.16.11/627 - Release Date: > 2007/01/15 > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/626 - Release Date: > 14/01/2007 20:29 > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
Nolan, thanks for posting the comparison! I also have Python, but as my
background is more in the C languages, I haven't investigated it yet...
For those interested, here is similar code in C#...
You'll notice that the code for the Greet method is defined within the
braces, rather than the indentation idea, as in Python...
public string Greet(string person)
{
if(person == "Cara")
Console.WriteLine("Hey you!");
else
Console.WriteLine("Hello " + person + "!");
}
Smiles,
Cara
At 02:38 AM 1/15/2007 -0600, you wrote:
>On Jan 15, 2007, at 2:09 AM, Ken the Crazy wrote:
>
> > Which of these languages is easiest to learn, python or ruby, which
> > is less
> > verbose, and which is more powerful?
>
>Those are difficult questions to answer and, for the most part, there
>aren't any. Neither is more powerful, I'd say. Python's Pygame is
>probably one of the more actively-developed game libraries, but
>Rubygame/RUDL are certainly worthy contenders.
>
>My personal preference is Ruby. Python is more concise in that it
>uses indentation for determining whether code is in any given method/
>block (I.e. code indented by X spaces is in the same block) but not
>all screen readers speak indentation (VoiceOver doesn't.) Ruby uses
>"end" to end blocks, and I find:
>
>def greet(person)
> if person == "Nolan"
> puts "Hey, you!"
> else
> puts "Hello, #{person.capitalize}."
> end
>end
>
>a bit easier to parse than:
>
>def greet(person):
> if person == "Nolan":
> print "Hey you!"
> else:
> print "Hello, "+person+"."
>
>It isn't as big of an issue in this instance, but it wouldn't be
>immediately obvious where blocks ended without speaking of
>indentation levels, and the "end" tokens make that a bit more easy to
>spot, as it were.
>
>Ruby has a number of advanced features that I really like, but those
>wouldn't be of interest to someone just starting out. In summary, you
>won't go wrong either way, but I myself prefer Ruby. Check them both
>out. They're free, available on just about every platform and each
>have great tutorials. Ruby even has the first version of the pickaxe,
>the book long held to be its definitive reference, available online.
>It takes you through lots of the basics rather quickly but doesn't
>skimp on the advanced topics, either. Check out:
>
>http://rubycentral.com/book/
>
>
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Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
I didn't come up with the name, I only found out that it exists, that's all. Josh - Original Message - From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:19 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > kid's programming language? that sounds weird. > > regards, > > damien > > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:02 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > > >> Hi, >> >> I was using google just surfing looking at different programming >> languages >> and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or >> maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming >> language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . >> >> I'm going to download it and check it out then. >> >> Josh >> >> email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> AOL: kutztownstudent >> msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> skype: jkenn337 >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] Audio Game Maker Update (includes first audio impression)
Hi Folks! Development on Audio Game Maker is still going on. Due to time constraints we fear that we will have very little to no time available for extensive testing. We would therefore like to call the release on February 1st 2007 a béta-release. This means that Audio Game Maker is still released Februari 1st but it may still contain some bugs and may not feature some specific functionalities. We will keep you updated! On a slightly more positive note, click the following link to download an mp3 preview of what Audio Game Maker will approximately sound like: http://www.audiogamemaker.com/downloads/audiogamemakerpreview1.mp3 In this preview you will first hear how a new world is selected and how a new player object is added to this world. After that you will hear how a property (in this case the y-property of the player) is set to 1. You will then hear a Portal Object being built at some distance from the Player Object (the Builder moves away from the Player Object). The Audio Environment is then temporarily exited to create a new World. In the World Settings Menu the acoustics of this second world is then set to "cathedral". Then you will hear how the Worldsound and the Moodsound for this world is set. After that a new player and another portal are added to the second world (you will then hear the builder turn 360 degrees in front of the player object). Then we return to the first world and set the properties of Portal 1 so that it links to the portal in world 2. Please note that this is only a preview to give you a first impression of Audio Game Maker. Many sounds are still missing and this is *not* the final soundmix. Greets, Richard http://www.audiogamemaker.com http://www.audiogames.net ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] danger city
HI all I think danger city should rather be called self destruct because of those mines in act3. it's a pitty that there isn't a look feature telling you how many feet you are from a mine like in treasure hunt you can see how many feet you are from a mine. and don't you agree that those mines makes such a humming sound that its impossible to distinguish a mine to the right of you from a mine to the left of you? I tell you guys, that intro to act3 was really horrifying. I wondered what the guy was typing. He was certainly entering something into a computer which caused the whole place to be filled with mines. It's a pitty that xl studios has closed down. I agree also that danger city is unfinished; it needs a lot of improvement. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Sryth
Where do you find this dragon egg? Best regards Søren. Mail & MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webside: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: "Steve Cullen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 12:40 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Sryth > Hi Everyone, > I have received a dragon egg. Does anyone know what I'm supposed to do > with this dragon egg? Any help would be appreciated thank you all very > much. > Please feel free to email me at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sincerely,, > Steve Cullen > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] phrogram development question : kids programming language .
Hi, I was doing a google search for programming languages when I came across your site. I am blind, and use a screen reader called jaws version 7.0 from www.freedomscientific.com . I'd like to know the following. 1. Does the free version of phrogram compile .exe files? 2. will it work with jaws? if not, could jaws scripts be written to make it work with jaws? 3. Are there keyboard shortcuts for the development environment? which would make it easier for me to use since I don't use the physical mouse. the screen reader can simulate mouse clicks using keys on the numeric keypad. 4. Can audio games be created using the free versions of phrogram? Here's an example of what I want to do. The games I will make have no graphics in them or pictures of any kind. instead they use sound at different points in the stereo field panning from left to right or right to left. Suppose I make a space invaders type game. I want to be able to say. press the control key or f2 to activate a menu, choose machine gun from that menu. the menu uses .wav or .mp3 files to guide the player through it. I press down arrow in the menu and it tells me what choice I'm on by playing a .wav or .mp3 file. so then I choose my weapon from the menu press enter. I hear the sound of a plane panning from left to right from the left side of the stereo to right side. When the sound reaches the middle or a certain point in the stereo field, I can successfully shoot it down. If not, I cannot and enemy lands and I loose some points. Also, can phrogram control the frequency at which a sound is played, stereo, frequency, volume, pitch, panning, optional surround sound, etcetera? So basically all of the audio features of DirectX and phrogram, I am interested in. Is this language as easy to use or harder to learn or use than ruby or pithon? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Technoshock: New concepts, new innovations in the audiogames market, possibly better than SOD
Hi Simon. Just leave the room before the mosquito robot comes. You'll find the insect spray in level 2. Best regards Søren. Mail & MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webside: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:52 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Technoshock: New concepts,new innovations in the audiogames market, possibly better than SOD > the trouble I have, is I can't find the med kits and the breathing is so > loud I can't hear anything else. > also, is there any mosquito spray about because I can't kill that mozzy > bot > at all. > - Original Message - > From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:29 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Technoshock: New concepts, new innovations in the > audiogames market, possibly better than SOD > > >>I think the gam is real hard. >> karl when you finnish it, or if anyone that finnishes it could they maybe >> do a recording or something. >> At 06:50 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote: >>>Hi all, >>>I am now on level 5 of Technoshock. I have noticed several concepts which >>>haven't been used before in any audiogame. >>>Please note that these next lines may contain minor spoilers. >>>1. on higher levels, there are what amount to cliffs, which you can not >>>jump across, but must find an alternate way around. >>>2. You sometimes need to act in a nonstandard way to accomplish your >>>objective. >>>3. the concept of timing doors, so that you are not crushed. >>>4. weapons which can change the geographic features of the area. >>>5. using an automatic system, such as a conveyer belt, to transport the >>>player and requiring him to jump off of it. >>>The reason I say that this game is better than SOD is that it contains >>>the >>>concepts mentioned above, and that each level is more extensive than the >>>ones in SOD. Also, there are more uses for weapons, I.E. the ability to >>>set grenades as traps, or throw them. Also, Technoshock has several >>>elements not included in Sod, like jumping pits, ducking fireballs, etc. >>>What do you guys think? >>>Karl >>>___ >>>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>>visit >>>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>>any subscription changes via the web. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Topic closed was Dragon Warriors
Keep us posted? Thanks. - Original Message - From: "Liam Erven" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:15 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Topic closed was Dragon Warriors > not to step on Tom's toes, but just wanted to thank you guys for the > responses. It has really meant a lot. The issue will be delbt with and > hopefully Ivan will not cause any more problems like this. Now. Back to > gaming! > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Ken the Crazy" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; "Gamers Discussion list" > > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:51 AM > Subject: [Audyssey] Topic closed was Dragon Warriors > > >> >> Hi all, >> I know some of you are catching up on email, but the Dragon Warriors >> thread is now officially closed by the moderators. >> Thanks. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
kid's programming language? that sounds weird. regards, damien - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:02 PM Subject: [Audyssey] game programming, a new idea > Hi, > > I was using google just surfing looking at different programming languages > and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or > maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming > language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . > > I'm going to download it and check it out then. > > Josh > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > AOL: kutztownstudent > msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > skype: jkenn337 > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] giving out contact info - Re: Ivan the kid
As a reminder, it is not a good idea to put someone's Email address out to an Email list without the user's permission. I tell everyone that they are not to give mine out unless they get permission from me to give it to that particular person. Once I give them permission to give it to someone, they should know that it is not OK to give it to anyone else without my permission to give it to that particular person as well. If someone asks me for someone's Email address, phone number, street address, or whatever, I get the user's permission to give the info to the person who is asking. I do this out of respect for the person being looked for. - Original Message - From: "Nicol Oosthuizen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ivan the kid > > NB: This email and its contents are subject to our email legal notice > which can be viewed at http://www.sars.gov.za/Email_Disclaimer.pdf > > > I already sent that mail to him at > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > On Behalf Of x-sight interactive > Sent: 15 January 2007 09:23 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Ivan the kid > > please can someone give me this guy's email address so i can send him > the > email sent out yesterday? i'd like to confirm to him that under no > circumstances and on no grounds will i allow him to be a beta tester for > a > program that will also contain sound files for him to mess with. > > regards, > > damien > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] programming classes
Hi. I'm also very interested to lern a program language. I'll only use it to make games. I have downloaded a lot of compilers, manuals and guides from www.blindprogramming.com but I couldn't find the buttuns or windows in the compiler as they talk about in these guides. I have also tryed C++, but the first test in the book, where I should create my first little program doesn't work. If someone can give me a teach guide and a compiler their works together I'll be very, very happy! It's very frustrated to read 30 or 40 pages and it doesn't work when you try to compile your project! I hope someone can help me. Best regards Søren. Mail & MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webside: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: "Rachel D Keyte" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 5:51 AM Subject: [Audyssey] programming classes > hey if Justin is taking on students, I'll be up for that! Lol nah but > seriously, good point you raise there Thomas. I'd love to be taught > a programming language, especially to be able to develop a game. > Anyone want to take me on as a guineapig student? :) Again, I'm > serious. course we'd need to go back to basics but I'm sure any good > teacher would know that. > seriously, anyone know of any such online classes? > Cheers! > At 01:4 8 PM 15/01/2007, you wrote: > >>Hi all, >>Honestly unless Justin confirms that he taught Ivan VB I wouldn't take >>much stock in it being true. I have had frequent talks with Justin over >>the past year over on agdev and I know Justin has been putting in long >>hours at his day time job. He has little time to devote to BSC Games, >>the agdev comunity, let alone take on a student at this point. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.10/626 - Release Date: > 14/01/2007 8:29 PM > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Technoshock: New concepts, new innovations in the audiogames market, possibly better than SOD
Hi. I really love this game. It's a hard game and I like it. It's just frustated why people like to get walkthroughs just because they are stock in games. I'll give you one hint in level 2: In the room with the 3 alarms, walk close to the warl. Best regards Søren. Mail & MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Webside: http://www.coolfortheblind.dk - Original Message - From: "Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "gamers discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 6:50 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Technoshock: New concepts, new innovations in the audiogames market, possibly better than SOD > Hi all, > I am now on level 5 of Technoshock. I have noticed several concepts which > haven't been used before in any audiogame. > Please note that these next lines may contain minor spoilers. > 1. on higher levels, there are what amount to cliffs, which you can not > jump across, but must find an alternate way around. > 2. You sometimes need to act in a nonstandard way to accomplish your > objective. > 3. the concept of timing doors, so that you are not crushed. > 4. weapons which can change the geographic features of the area. > 5. using an automatic system, such as a conveyer belt, to transport the > player and requiring him to jump off of it. > The reason I say that this game is better than SOD is that it contains the > concepts mentioned above, and that each level is more extensive than the > ones in SOD. Also, there are more uses for weapons, I.E. the ability to > set grenades as traps, or throw them. Also, Technoshock has several > elements not included in Sod, like jumping pits, ducking fireballs, etc. > What do you guys think? > Karl > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior
Exactly. I would clearly state that is an add on, and Liam would get the full credit for the game. - Original Message - From: "aaron danvers-jukes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:39 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior > if i ever do a mod, i will say: > "this is a mod of super liam. check out the original game at > www.l-works.net > if you like this mod." that's an example. > i don't know if it will make much difference though. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] game programming, a new idea
Hi, I was using google just surfing looking at different programming languages and I think I may have come across one that is or may be even better or maybe simpler than pithon or ruby! It's called the kids programming language. the newest version can be found at www.phrogram.com . I'm going to download it and check it out then. Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
[Audyssey] ruby or pithon
Hi, Didn't Jamal Mazury use ruby or pithon to make his text pal and other software? Josh email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] AOL: kutztownstudent msn: [EMAIL PROTECTED] skype: jkenn337 ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws
hi many thanks for your suggestions. I have tried starting the game with out exiting jfw. it does work. when I go to exit the game though jfw doesn't come back right away maybe I don't have something configured right? if some one hear can tell me how to configure jaws to come right back after exiting a game that would be grate. many thanks. from Mich Verrier. Sorry if this topic is off topic if so then feel free to e male me off list at [EMAIL PROTECTED] I am using jfw 7.0 hth. - Original Message - From: "Karl" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > Hi, > The game should put JFW to sleep for you. Try starting the game without > unloading JFW. When you exit the game, Jaws should come back. > Karl > - Original Message - > From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:31 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > > >> hi mich, when I launch the game, hal automatically shuts up, I don't have >> to >> turn it off, and when I quit the game, hal comes back automatically. >> I no it doesn't help you, but there you go. >> - Original Message - >> From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "gamers discussion list" >> Cc: "blind gamers" >> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:51 PM >> Subject: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws >> >> >>> hello all. I have downloaded the game tecknoshock. I have a problum >>> though. the problum i have is let's say i finnish playing the game and >>> want to exitwell after i do this i can't seem to re load jaws. The only >>> way i have found around this problum is to re start my computer. I sent >>> the develiper a message about this problum and hear's what he said Hi >>> Mich, >>> >>> You wrote: >>> >>>> I have good news. I managed to download the game and it seems to work. >>> >>> I'm glad to hear it! >>> >>>> the only problem I have is when I am exiting after exiting I can't seem >>>> to re load jaws using alt control j. >>> >>> Not recommended run JAWS during the game. You must quit the game, after >>> quit the game press Alt + Control + J to load JAWS. >>> >>> JAWS isn't necessary for play the game. When the game was started and >>> you >>> run JAWS, JAWS don't take control of your computer. >>> >>> If you want to load JAWS during the game playing, you must open any >>> application (such as Windows Explorer) before start the game. >>> Then start game, then unload JAWS, then move a focus to other >>> application >>> (such as Windows Explorer) by pressing ALT+TAB. Now you >>> able to load JAWS. When you move the focus to other application, the >>> game >>> sounds will quiet. When you return the focus on the game >>> window, you shall hear sounds again. However JAWS will be embarrass you, >>> because it intercept many keystrokes. >>> >>> Best regards, >>> >>> Anatol. Any help that any one can give me with this problumwould be >>> grait. >>> many thanks. from Mich Verrier. >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>> visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> __ NOD32 1980 (20070115) Information __ >> >> This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. >> http://www.eset.com >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
and there is freedom wheel of fortune. Now what I'd also like to see is accessible jeopardy and accessible price is right games. Josh - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > well there is freedom millionaire guys. > At 08:37 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote: >>what i'm currently doing is making an accessible version of millionaire, >>but >>me and steve both had a discussion offlist and we both decided that it >>might >>be better to do one just for our own personal use, as celadore or eidos >>aren't going to allow such measures as the format is so big nowadays. >> >>so maybe if someone who could develop wanted a complete accessible remake >>of >>a game they could do it for themselves, but then there lies the question >>that, ok, it's out there, why aren't we getting a go at it. it's a really >>sticky situation for all of us. >> >>regards, >> >>damien >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:30 AM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds >> >> >>> Hi Che, >>> >>> Quote >>> I respect the work and artistry that folks like Thomas have put into >>> games >>> like the Star Trek stuff, but I just don't see the need for it, as for >>> one >>> thing, this type of game has been done with Star Trek sounds, and why >>> risk >>> getting your development company in trouble with copyright lawyers? >>> End quote >>> >>> I think it is not so much a need, but a desire to see such games. A >>> persons personal interests has allot to do with this decision. You are >>> interested in breaking new ground. I on the other hand am really >>> frustrated I could play Dark Forces years ago, and now I am blind, I >>> have no opertunities to play what was important to me, what I enjoyed, >>> and there lies the discussion we are having now. >>> Do I go "oh well, Lucas Arts won't make it accessible so I'll move on," >>> or do I say, "hey I can program this game, and maybe it won't be the >>> original but I can recapture some of the fun of the past." >>> The other issue is I could break new ground, but how many blind users on >>> this list can honestly say they played Dark Forces, Mysteries of the >>> Sith, etc to the completion. They frankly never had a first chanse, and >>> breaking new ground rather than trying to recreate an oldy means they >>> never get a first or a second chanse. >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>___ >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>any subscription changes via the web. > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
Hi, I emailed the people who make playstation asking for accessible and to keep it short, they said flat out no! Josh ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
That would depend on whether the game you're playing is anything like the ones they are. If a game is merely a Star Wars game due to using sounds from that franchise but is totally different from anything sighted people are playing, then you don't really have anything substantial to work with. If serious effort is made to make storm troopers behave like those in the movies, or to take into account the physics of ships as described by whatever central technical information exists to determine all that, then you have more to talk about meaningfully. Sighted people could play something like Pong or Topspeed2 or Sonic Invaders and compare it meaningfully to the games they've played. I don't get a sense of playing an actual Star Trek game when I play Tom's Final Conflict game. The sounds and such just aren't enough for me to set aside what I regard as true Star Trek gamedom. The combat is just too capricious with ships being destroyed instantaneously. Listening to the shows, combat seems a lot more serebral than that. There's at least time to take evasive action, try to reinforce threatened assets, etc. I can wipe out a starbase with one ship's fire power and that just doesn't strike me as very correct. If you play something like Star Trek, A Final Unity as I was able to with my father's help way back in my high school days, that game could honestly be called a Star Trek game. They had the actual actors from TNG doing the voices. The story and dialogue were excellent and so were the sound effects. The game play truly put you in mind of the shows and did honour to the concept of Star Trek. Even the strictly combat games like Star Fleet Command were done in such a way that you felt that the gameplay better reflected the kind of thoughts captains had to make while fighting battles. That kind of consideration is one reason why people can be so protective of their franchises. They honestly don't want their vision to be degraded by people who don't have a proper sense of what it is and a proper respect for it. Nintendo did a masterful job of quality control using such protective measures and did a lot to revive the video game industry after the crash in the mid eighties. One of the problems back then were that everybody was trying to get money from video games and were making poor immitations of original games. The market was flooded with inferrior quality games and people were turned off. We're certainly in no danger of a crash now. If anything, we face the reverse problem where there aren't enough different titles and genres covered well to pull in more gamers. I think time and effort from developers will eventually fix that and is doing that already slowly. Michael Feir Creator and former Editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 10:23 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > also, wouldn't being able to tell your sighted friends if you had any that > you have a star wars game similar to theirs and you beat this level or > that > level give you something more in common with them? > > Josh > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:41 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > > >> Hi Che, Liam, and all, >> What we are discussing here has some deep ethical concerns I don't think >> we can solve. On One hand you have the die-hard SW fans on here that >> would do anything for an accessible SW game. On the other hand you have >> the major companies with the licenses saying no way buddy show us the >> big cash. You then end up with a no win situation. >> Che is correct there are plenty of original ideas that can be used. From >> what I know of Che he likes new and original things as rather to others >> ideas. That is great, and originality is a wonderful thing. >> However, not everyone shares that, and wishes to enter some of the >> fantacies, stories, and tv shows others have created before. Just >> walking through aspce station killing aliens might be enough for some >> people. Add a light saber, force powers, and a bunch of storm troopers >> and the SW fans will go mad for it. That is just how a really good story >> works. >> Look at Harry Potter as an example. When the last book came out there >> were people waiting in the parking lot for hours waiting for the stores >> to open there doors so they could buy the new Harry Potter book. That is >> the hold it has on people. >> Yes, using sounds trade marks, etc is probably steeling. Steeling is >> wrong, but that leaves us with the ethical situation of walking away >> from the thing we want most in life. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
oh, and also an accessible deal or no deal game. Josh - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:53 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > well there is freedom millionaire guys. > At 08:37 p.m. 15/01/2007, you wrote: >>what i'm currently doing is making an accessible version of millionaire, >>but >>me and steve both had a discussion offlist and we both decided that it >>might >>be better to do one just for our own personal use, as celadore or eidos >>aren't going to allow such measures as the format is so big nowadays. >> >>so maybe if someone who could develop wanted a complete accessible remake >>of >>a game they could do it for themselves, but then there lies the question >>that, ok, it's out there, why aren't we getting a go at it. it's a really >>sticky situation for all of us. >> >>regards, >> >>damien >> >> >> >> >>- Original Message - >>From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "Gamers Discussion list" >>Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:30 AM >>Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds >> >> >>> Hi Che, >>> >>> Quote >>> I respect the work and artistry that folks like Thomas have put into >>> games >>> like the Star Trek stuff, but I just don't see the need for it, as for >>> one >>> thing, this type of game has been done with Star Trek sounds, and why >>> risk >>> getting your development company in trouble with copyright lawyers? >>> End quote >>> >>> I think it is not so much a need, but a desire to see such games. A >>> persons personal interests has allot to do with this decision. You are >>> interested in breaking new ground. I on the other hand am really >>> frustrated I could play Dark Forces years ago, and now I am blind, I >>> have no opertunities to play what was important to me, what I enjoyed, >>> and there lies the discussion we are having now. >>> Do I go "oh well, Lucas Arts won't make it accessible so I'll move on," >>> or do I say, "hey I can program this game, and maybe it won't be the >>> original but I can recapture some of the fun of the past." >>> The other issue is I could break new ground, but how many blind users on >>> this list can honestly say they played Dark Forces, Mysteries of the >>> Sith, etc to the completion. They frankly never had a first chanse, and >>> breaking new ground rather than trying to recreate an oldy means they >>> never get a first or a second chanse. >>> Cheers. >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>> any subscription changes via the web. >>> >>> >> >> >> >>___ >>Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >>To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >>visit >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >>any subscription changes via the web. > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
yeah. maybe I should start out with these languages myself.
Josh
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> Which of these languages is easiest to learn, python or ruby, which is
> less
> verbose, and which is more powerful?
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> From: "Nolan Darilek" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:11 AM
> Subject: [Audyssey] Another perspective on programming games
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>
>> Hi, folks.
>>
>> Lots of you seem interested in learning how to program games. This is
>> great. Lots of you are also scurrying off and downloading the various
>> microsoft express IDES. If this is your chosen path then by all
>> means, knock yourselves out, but I wanted to toss out another path
>> that you may not have considered.
>>
>> C#, VB, Java, etc. are popular, powerful languages. They're also very
>> verbose when compared to languages like Ruby and Python that can,
>> say, write a simple "Hello, world" program in a single line rather
>> than half a dozen.
>>
>> If you're wanting to learn programming, consider a language like Ruby
>> or Python first. The syntax is much easier to grasp and, in my mind,
>> much closer to how we think than are languages like C#/VB. Try to
>> guess what this does:
>>
>> 3.times do
>> print "Hip hip, hooray!"
>> end
>>
>> vs.:
>>
>> for(int i = 0; i < 2; i++) {
>> Console.Out.Writeline("Hip hip, hooray!");
>> }
>>
>> You can develop games easily in either of these using libraries like
>> RUDL, Rubygame, Pygame, etc. Not only do these have the advantage of
>> being cross-platform, but you can type a bit of code, run the game
>> instantly, add more, etc. in an evolutionary process so much faster
>> than would otherwise be possible with compilation.
>>
>> There are disadvantages to this path. These languages may spoil you.
>> I've coded for years, and after working with Ruby, coding in Java
>> feels like running under water. This may be circumventable, however.
>> I've written Torrent in Java and have just recently separated the
>> engine components into a separate project for other game development.
>> I'm finding that I can use my engine with JRuby, a Java-native
>> implementation of Ruby, and enjoy the ease and speed of Ruby plus the
>> power of the underlying Java engine. If you're a .net person, there's
>> a .net implementation of Ruby on the horizon and, if you find that
>> you prefer Python to Ruby, you can already use languages like
>> IronPython or Boo (http://boo.codehaus.org) with DirectX or whatever
>> your .net engine of choice might be. Actually, if Python is your pick
>> then you can already use either of these with existing DirectX
>> resources/tutorials to get up to speed that much quicker with skills
>> that you can keep.
>>
>> Also, if you pick the pure Ruby/Python route, your games' source will
>> almost always be visible, meaning others can copy what you've done
>> (albeit with the same restrictions.) This shouldn't be an issue at
>> first--my first three attempts at game programming weren't commercial-
>> grade, and I'd probably have been much more successful at learning if
>> I'd treated at least two of those as learning experiences instead of
>> trying to write the next GMA engine right out the gate. :)
>>
>> And, again, if you're still interested in the C#/VB.net route then
>> right on, and I wish you the best of luck. :) Just wanted to let
>> folks know that a) those aren't the only games in town, even if you
>> do want to stick with .net from start to finish (see notes about
>> IronPython/Boo above) and b) it may be best to focus on learning the
>> craft of game design during your first few efforts rather than on
>> producing something to sell. Language shapes how we think, and while
>> picking a non-conventional language might seem like a bad idea at
>> first glance, it just might help some of you who may find C#/VB
>> frightening. Hell, I'm a decent enough coder and *I* find them
>> frightening for various reasons. :) If given a choice, I'll almost
>> always pick an alternate language like JRuby/Nemerle/Boo for whatever
>> platform I'm constrained to rather than simply using C#, Java, etc.
>>
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] USA Asteroids was centipede
ok, this is off topic of the asteroids, but, how will buying games work at usa games? do yu buy a cd, or will it be one of those this is the full version. things? with a "register montezuma's revenge" utility, for example? regards aaron ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
you don't have to make an accessible version of millionaire. There already is one. It was made by flint freedom. of freedom games. Josh - Original Message - From: "x-sight interactive" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 2:37 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > what i'm currently doing is making an accessible version of millionaire, > but > me and steve both had a discussion offlist and we both decided that it > might > be better to do one just for our own personal use, as celadore or eidos > aren't going to allow such measures as the format is so big nowadays. > > so maybe if someone who could develop wanted a complete accessible remake > of > a game they could do it for themselves, but then there lies the question > that, ok, it's out there, why aren't we getting a go at it. it's a really > sticky situation for all of us. > > regards, > > damien > > > > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 4:30 AM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > > >> Hi Che, >> >> Quote >> I respect the work and artistry that folks like Thomas have put into >> games >> like the Star Trek stuff, but I just don't see the need for it, as for >> one >> thing, this type of game has been done with Star Trek sounds, and why >> risk >> getting your development company in trouble with copyright lawyers? >> End quote >> >> I think it is not so much a need, but a desire to see such games. A >> persons personal interests has allot to do with this decision. You are >> interested in breaking new ground. I on the other hand am really >> frustrated I could play Dark Forces years ago, and now I am blind, I >> have no opertunities to play what was important to me, what I enjoyed, >> and there lies the discussion we are having now. >> Do I go "oh well, Lucas Arts won't make it accessible so I'll move on," >> or do I say, "hey I can program this game, and maybe it won't be the >> original but I can recapture some of the fun of the past." >> The other issue is I could break new ground, but how many blind users on >> this list can honestly say they played Dark Forces, Mysteries of the >> Sith, etc to the completion. They frankly never had a first chanse, and >> breaking new ground rather than trying to recreate an oldy means they >> never get a first or a second chanse. >> Cheers. >> >> >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] star wars sounds
If it is rpg, scifi or fantasy, i'm up for it. - Original Message - From: "Josh" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Date: Mon, 15 Jan 2007 10:25:14 -0500 Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star wars sounds > I guess the only other option then is just to quietly work on it and hope > we > won't get caught. > By the way, how many lord of the rings fans are there on this list, or > dungeon siege? Since we already have two people working on some star wars > games, maybe I should give them the sounds, and hold off on makeing one so > I > don't accidentally rip off someone else's ideas. > > > Josh > > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] star wars sounds > > > > Hi David, > > The sad thing here is that both Paramount and Lucasfilm have extremely > > inflated concepts of what there sounds, stories, etc should cost. > > In my inquest with Lucasfilm for SW Jedi Strike the price quoted was so > > horrably out ragious I could have baught a new house and a car for what > > it would cost me to legally write Jedi Strike. > > Why? Well, Lucasfilm obviously deals with million dollar contracts, and > > if you are a small time developer they basically tell you to buzz off > > and light somewhere else. > > The Lucasfilm games devision Lucas Arts also doesn't seam to be that > > interested in making accessible PC Ggames are focussing in PS2 and Xbox > > titles now which are not all that accessible. > > I don't have answer for this one, but something has to give. Either we > > give up with our tails between our legs, we fight it in court, or we > > quietly work on it and hope we don't get caught. That is the only > > choices available. > > As you pointed out the sound effects are very specific to that show or > > movie. Lacking them you might as well not even work on the game. The > > sound effects are what for us makes the movie and or game so real. > > > > david wrote: > >> I can agree with you, but in order to make Star Wars and Star Trek games, > >> you must use the sound effects relating to those trademarks. You can't > >> just > >> design them yourself. Otherwise, it won't be star wars or star trek. > >> Unfortunately, Lucas Film and Paramount don't sell there sounds, making > >> getting sounds from games one of the only options. If Lucas and Paramount > >> would sell there sounds for reasonable prices like Sound Ideas do, then > >> we > >> could use them instead of sounds from games. > >> > > > > > > > > ___ > > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > > visit > > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > > any subscription changes via the web. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
but then if you take it down, or if they tell you to take it down, couldn't you distribute it privately on cd through email requests? Josh - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2007 11:58 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > Hi Shaun, > Yeah, it started off I got the run around trying to find the right > department head to talk to. I emailed several with no responce, and when > I did finally get any responce I was quoted what seamed like acanned > message about Lucas Arts holding all legal rights to Star Wars games, > and that to produce a game I'd have to pay upfront royalty fees, and so > on. > Basically, they wanted more than I can afford, and as soon as they > figured I am a one man show with little money to be earned off of my > ideas, I basically was blown off as a fly on a giants butt. > In short if you are going to approach Paramount or Lucas you need to > have a multimillion dollar idea like producing toys, games, etc that > they can suck up a huge percentage of the proffets. Otherwise get lost. > Everyone in the accessible games business knows there is no gold mine, > and what little money you made off of your Star wars or Trek idea would > be gobbled up by the copyright holders leaving you with zip. > If you want to release it give it away for free. Worst they can do is > say take it down. > > > shaun everiss wrote: >> I forgot what happened when tom asked for the things. >> Tom do you remember what happened with that, I know there was and still >> is licencing issues around the games. >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws
Hi, The game should put JFW to sleep for you. Try starting the game without unloading JFW. When you exit the game, Jaws should come back. Karl - Original Message - From: "simon.dowling" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 9:31 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > hi mich, when I launch the game, hal automatically shuts up, I don't have > to > turn it off, and when I quit the game, hal comes back automatically. > I no it doesn't help you, but there you go. > - Original Message - > From: "Mich" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "gamers discussion list" > Cc: "blind gamers" > Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:51 PM > Subject: [Audyssey] Teckno Shock and Jaws > > >> hello all. I have downloaded the game tecknoshock. I have a problum >> though. the problum i have is let's say i finnish playing the game and >> want to exitwell after i do this i can't seem to re load jaws. The only >> way i have found around this problum is to re start my computer. I sent >> the develiper a message about this problum and hear's what he said Hi >> Mich, >> >> You wrote: >> >>> I have good news. I managed to download the game and it seems to work. >> >> I'm glad to hear it! >> >>> the only problem I have is when I am exiting after exiting I can't seem >>> to re load jaws using alt control j. >> >> Not recommended run JAWS during the game. You must quit the game, after >> quit the game press Alt + Control + J to load JAWS. >> >> JAWS isn't necessary for play the game. When the game was started and you >> run JAWS, JAWS don't take control of your computer. >> >> If you want to load JAWS during the game playing, you must open any >> application (such as Windows Explorer) before start the game. >> Then start game, then unload JAWS, then move a focus to other application >> (such as Windows Explorer) by pressing ALT+TAB. Now you >> able to load JAWS. When you move the focus to other application, the game >> sounds will quiet. When you return the focus on the game >> window, you shall hear sounds again. However JAWS will be embarrass you, >> because it intercept many keystrokes. >> >> Best regards, >> >> Anatol. Any help that any one can give me with this problumwould be >> grait. >> many thanks. from Mich Verrier. >> ___ >> Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org >> To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can >> visit >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make >> any subscription changes via the web. >> >> > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. > > __ NOD32 1980 (20070115) Information __ > > This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. > http://www.eset.com > > ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds
then why not get software, rip the sounds out, and make the games? you'll probably have to make them freeware though. Josh - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Monday, January 15, 2007 1:11 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Illegal activity was: star wars sounds > Hi Michael, > I to am a classic arcade nut. I was a very happy child blasting away in > asteroids, centipede, packman, Pitfall, Montezuma's Revenge, etc however > I had enough sight to get in to some of the later PC games as well. > Back in 1982 or so one of my favorite arcade games was Star Wars Empire > Strikes Back, ESB, and I spent countless hours flying my speader around > shooting AT walkers, and so on. You can count on me wanting to redo that > game in accessible format. However, according to this thread using SW > logos and sounds is wrong. That puts me in between a rock and a hard > place A game I enjoyed can't be braught to bare do to copyrights. I > think the same copyrights that governs ESB apply to packman, Montezuma's > Revenge, and in the end if we always play by the rule books the > accesible game community will have to totally rethink our strategy. > I was fortunate to live with sight long enough to get in to the PC games > and being a SW fan many of them I purchased were of the Star Wars > titles. I really hate owning copies of games I can no longer play. I'd > love to wrip the sounds out and recreate the game with an accessible > design. > > > ___ > Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org > To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can > visit > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make > any subscription changes via the web. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
Re: [Audyssey] Dragon Warrior
if i ever do a mod, i will say: "this is a mod of super liam. check out the original game at www.l-works.net if you like this mod." that's an example. i don't know if it will make much difference though. ___ Gamers mailing list .. Gamers@audyssey.org To unsubscribe send E-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can visit http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org to make any subscription changes via the web.
