Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,
Actually, sometime between now and final release I will be encrypting
the sounds so mod packs won't be too useful once I eventually encrypt
the sounds.  However, I understand where you are coming from here. How
about if you adjust the centaur sounds to your liking and send them to
me for consideration. If I like them I'll put them in the pack file.
Fair deal?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
> Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
> And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put the
> lower pitch sound in the game?
>
> And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?

> thanks,
> Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
Yes, exactly my point. It isn't that I want to turn end user
suggestions away. I definitely won't, but a lot of things are going to
go into a todo list for whenever I can get to it. At this point I
believe the important thing is actually  finishing the game levels,
make sure the engine is stable, and add the end user registration
system. As that will be the majority of my work the next two/three
months I really haven't the time to add every single end user
suggestion or continue to play with sound effects to make sure
everyone is satisfied with this or that aspect of the game. Sometimes
I just have to say this is how it is like it or lump it. Bug fixes
I'll certainly take care of right away, but some of these suggestions
like how the centaurs sound can really wait until I'm done working on
creating the game levels and game mechanics. So I'm not really
ignoring the suggestion, but trying to schedule it to a more
appropriate time when such things are all I have to worry about.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a project
> as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration and
> was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
> focus on that more than anything.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to
take acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned
that you wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full
run when in actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking
about the relative speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably
should change it to give each enemy a different rate of speed when
attacking. Centaurs could indeed be running at you, and  would cover
much ground very quickly.  Harpies can fly so also could move pretty
quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously move much slower and
not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures usually are pretty
slow in games. This way each enemy would be more realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
> Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
> And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put the
> lower pitch sound in the game?
>
> And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
> thanks,
> Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Inquiries

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Lori,

Thanks. I'll take care of it. I'm not sure how on earth that got
broken but shouldn't be too hard to fix.

HTH

On 5/9/10, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Hi Tom I tried f2 last night but nothing happened.  Great game though, as
> always.

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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Inquiries

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Hayden,
Sorry, about that. Speak strength is no longer on g. Use the s key for
speak strength. I think I documented it in the manual, but if not I'll
correct it asap.

HTH


On 5/9/10, Hayden Presley  wrote:
> Hi,
> Also, as I believe I mentioned, the g key does not work.
> Best Regards,
> Hayden

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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
I've never played this one, is it just a text adventure game using your 
screen reader or is it self-voicing, would like to try it out.
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Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 10:59 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] some body answer this


hey how long does it take to play the last crusade?  and do you ever go to 
different kind of towns?


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[Audyssey] Mota interuptions

2010-05-10 Thread dark
Hi Tom.

appologies if this has been mentioned already. I've just had chance to try 
mota 12. Very nice,  I deffinately like the fact that the pan bug is 
fixed (it kept getting Dr. Carter frazled in fire pits), and I deffinately 
like smacking harpies to death with a bull whip.

the player comments are great,  they actually give the good doctor just 
the personality she needs.

My only miner irritation thus far, is that there is no way either to 
interupt the intro, or the view messages.

In terms of the intro, it would be nice if I didn't have to read the 
inscription each and every time I pla,  sinse cool though it is, it is a 
bit much the tenth time.

Also, i would like to see a way of interupting the view messages, sinse if I 
just want view information of the closest object it'd prefer not to have to 
sit through a full description of everything in the room. this is 
particularly true when jumping firepits.

apart from that, everything seems great thus far,  though i haven't 
quite made it to the 2nd level yet.

all the best,

Dark. 
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Re: [Audyssey] Mota interuptions

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark,
I know. Beleive me I've heard this before way too many times to count
from multiple sources. However, the problems you speak of are not easy
problems to fix. I can not just snap my fingers and they are fixed.
They will take time and research to fix. As those were not critical
bugs I decided to put those on the back burner, so to speak, and
worked on the really critical errors like the sound panning and crash
dialog.  As you know it took me about a month to do what I did, and
there is still a mountain of work to do before this thing is ready. So
please do understand I haven't forgotten to do this. It is just a
manner of trying to figure out what needs fixed first, second, and
third so to speak. If I could fix everything all at once the game
would be ready for sale by now.
For example, most people, not necessarily you, assume I can simply add
a keystroke to make the cutscene go away. Actually, there is one but
it doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is because the LoadLevel()
function is called by the input thread. Meaning while the level is
loading the keyboard thread is temperarily suspended while the level
loads.  That means no keyboard support at all while our cutscene is
playing. I tried putting it on its own thread but the game crashed big
time. So between crashing or no keyboard support for the moment my
choice was rather obvious for stability reasons. Eventually, I'll fix
it, but hey it takes time and work to try to fix a bug and debug it
properly. However, since everyone is driving me up the wall asking
about the view command and the cutscene I'll  spend this entire week
working on those two problems specifically. Maybe then I won't have to
hear about them any more.

Cheers!


On 5/10/10, dark  wrote:
> Hi Tom.
>
> appologies if this has been mentioned already. I've just had chance to try
> mota 12. Very nice,  I deffinately like the fact that the pan bug is
> fixed (it kept getting Dr. Carter frazled in fire pits), and I deffinately
> like smacking harpies to death with a bull whip.
>
> the player comments are great,  they actually give the good doctor just
> the personality she needs.
>
> My only miner irritation thus far, is that there is no way either to
> interupt the intro, or the view messages.
>
> In terms of the intro, it would be nice if I didn't have to read the
> inscription each and every time I pla,  sinse cool though it is, it is a
> bit much the tenth time.
>
> Also, i would like to see a way of interupting the view messages, sinse if I
> just want view information of the closest object it'd prefer not to have to
> sit through a full description of everything in the room. this is
> particularly true when jumping firepits.
>
> apart from that, everything seems great thus far,  though i haven't
> quite made it to the 2nd level yet.
>
> all the best,
>
> Dark.

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[Audyssey] Audio Quake

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
Hi Everyone, I'm trying to enstall the audio Quake software, but keep getting 
an error message saying Server Request couldn't be found, this is when I've 
downloaded the setup for XP and click on the enstall button.  I tried signing 
up to the discussion list, but got a postmaster email saying delivery has 
failed.  Does this mean the Agrip Project is no more?  I'd be gratefull for any 
help.  Thanks from Lori.  
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Re: [Audyssey] Mota interuptions

2010-05-10 Thread dark

Appologies Tom.

in truth, I've been traveling 100 miles south to see my parents, changing 
computers, and backing various things up on my external drive, so I've not 
been reading the mota comments thread until i'd actually had time to try the 
game.


This wasn't intended as an imperative "you must drop everything else and fix 
this now!rather as a "please add this to the bug fix list"


I've seen some very compitant developers occasionally forget fairly symple 
things,  which isn't surprising given how complex coding is, which is 
why I point such things out in the first place.


For instance, I've seen games released which totally lack a pause feature. 
This isn't anyone's fault, --- just that in the  rush of adding stuff, 
developers happened to forget.


so  basically, my point is yes, having the interupt work without crashing 
would be good,  eventually!


Actually I'm most pleased that the pan thing is fixed, because this was 
making the previous beta damnably difficult! however sinse you'd already 
mentioned it as a yet unfixed bug, i saw no need to mention it again.


Good luck with the developement. I'm certainly looking forward to seeing 
more levels and enemies,  the  zombies are deffinately fun!


Beware the Grue!

Dark.


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mota interuptions



Hi Dark,
I know. Beleive me I've heard this before way too many times to count
from multiple sources. However, the problems you speak of are not easy
problems to fix. I can not just snap my fingers and they are fixed.
They will take time and research to fix. As those were not critical
bugs I decided to put those on the back burner, so to speak, and
worked on the really critical errors like the sound panning and crash
dialog.  As you know it took me about a month to do what I did, and
there is still a mountain of work to do before this thing is ready. So
please do understand I haven't forgotten to do this. It is just a
manner of trying to figure out what needs fixed first, second, and
third so to speak. If I could fix everything all at once the game
would be ready for sale by now.
For example, most people, not necessarily you, assume I can simply add
a keystroke to make the cutscene go away. Actually, there is one but
it doesn't work. The reason it doesn't work is because the LoadLevel()
function is called by the input thread. Meaning while the level is
loading the keyboard thread is temperarily suspended while the level
loads.  That means no keyboard support at all while our cutscene is
playing. I tried putting it on its own thread but the game crashed big
time. So between crashing or no keyboard support for the moment my
choice was rather obvious for stability reasons. Eventually, I'll fix
it, but hey it takes time and work to try to fix a bug and debug it
properly. However, since everyone is driving me up the wall asking
about the view command and the cutscene I'll  spend this entire week
working on those two problems specifically. Maybe then I won't have to
hear about them any more.

Cheers!


On 5/10/10, dark  wrote:

Hi Tom.

appologies if this has been mentioned already. I've just had chance to 
try

mota 12. Very nice,  I deffinately like the fact that the pan bug is
fixed (it kept getting Dr. Carter frazled in fire pits), and I 
deffinately

like smacking harpies to death with a bull whip.

the player comments are great,  they actually give the good doctor 
just

the personality she needs.

My only miner irritation thus far, is that there is no way either to
interupt the intro, or the view messages.

In terms of the intro, it would be nice if I didn't have to read the
inscription each and every time I pla,  sinse cool though it is, it 
is a

bit much the tenth time.

Also, i would like to see a way of interupting the view messages, sinse 
if I
just want view information of the closest object it'd prefer not to have 
to

sit through a full description of everything in the room. this is
particularly true when jumping firepits.

apart from that, everything seems great thus far,  though i haven't
quite made it to the 2nd level yet.

all the best,

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Thomas,
I should have realized that they are all moving at the same rate.
In the GMA game engine, there is a speed attribute to determine how fast a 
creature can move across a ten foot cell.
Of course the size of the cell can also change from 10 feet to anything 
else.
In Dungeons and Dragons the rate of movement is 10 feet per minute indoors 
times a modifier.

For humans it is 12, so the human rate is 120 feet per minute in a dungeon
This walk is at a fairly brisk, though not strenuous pace.

For a horse the modifier is 18 to 24 so
180 to 240 feet per minute in a dungeon
For a dwarf it is 6, or 60 feet per minute.
Skeletons  move at 6.
Centaurs move at 18.
Zombies at 6.
Harpies  fly at a rate of 15, or 150 feet per minute.

Phil


- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to
take acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned
that you wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full
run when in actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking
about the relative speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably
should change it to give each enemy a different rate of speed when
attacking. Centaurs could indeed be running at you, and  would cover
much ground very quickly.  Harpies can fly so also could move pretty
quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously move much slower and
not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures usually are pretty
slow in games. This way each enemy would be more realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put 
the

lower pitch sound in the game?

And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
Sorry for the off-topic question but what's the real difference between a 
creature that's just dead one that's undead. Zombies I've heard would be 
considered undead but I've heard skeletons and ghosts aren't.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 2:50 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to
take acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned
that you wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full
run when in actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking
about the relative speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably
should change it to give each enemy a different rate of speed when
attacking. Centaurs could indeed be running at you, and  would cover
much ground very quickly.  Harpies can fly so also could move pretty
quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously move much slower and
not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures usually are pretty
slow in games. This way each enemy would be more realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put 
the

lower pitch sound in the game?

And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mota interuptions

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
The interrupting the speech is definitely on the to-do list but it won't be 
fixed until THomas can figure that out.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "dark" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:07 AM
Subject: [Audyssey] Mota interuptions



Hi Tom.

appologies if this has been mentioned already. I've just had chance to try
mota 12. Very nice,  I deffinately like the fact that the pan bug is
fixed (it kept getting Dr. Carter frazled in fire pits), and I deffinately
like smacking harpies to death with a bull whip.

the player comments are great,  they actually give the good doctor 
just

the personality she needs.

My only miner irritation thus far, is that there is no way either to
interupt the intro, or the view messages.

In terms of the intro, it would be nice if I didn't have to read the
inscription each and every time I pla,  sinse cool though it is, it is 
a

bit much the tenth time.

Also, i would like to see a way of interupting the view messages, sinse if 
I
just want view information of the closest object it'd prefer not to have 
to

sit through a full description of everything in the room. this is
particularly true when jumping firepits.

apart from that, everything seems great thus far,  though i haven't
quite made it to the 2nd level yet.

all the best,

Dark.
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2010-05-10 Thread ENES SARIBAŞ
did you upload the recordings?

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread dark

It depends upon the system.

In it's strictist sense, if I remember my voodu, a zombi is literally a 
walking corpse, ie, a being with a spirit stil wandering around the earth, 
who also happens to be dead. Apparently zombies could be very powerful 
prietst and magicians,  particularly because their bodies were dead, 
even though there minds and spirits were stil okay.


Recently though, --- probably in the trend started by the Richard matheson 
novel I am legend (generally creddited as the first zombi appocalypse novel, 
filmed as night of the living dead), the term zombi means literally an 
animated corpse with little to know spirit or will power of it's own, only 
usually a desire for hunge, indeed often zombies are forced to someone 
else's will or command.


ghosts, vampires and various other undead beings are held to possess a will 
of their own,  hence the difference.


of course, these aren't hard and fast rules. skeletons can be one thing or 
the other,  the aztech death god Miktanticutli (appologies for miss 
spelling), was depicted as a walking skeleton, though of course in fiction 
skeletons are also often the slaves of  others (look at entombed).


Then, just to confuse things further, the original I am legend book didn't 
feature zombies, but vampires!  though this was changed in the night of the 
living dead film, and the vampires in the book are certainly more like the 
classic zombi than count dracular.


I suppose the distinctions is that "undead" is just a wandering  carcus 
which really has no volition to act on it's own accept perhaps hunger, where 
as living dead refers to something which acts alive even though it was 
dead,  though once again, this can be up to the whim of the author.


I suppose ultimately it's just that death is mysterious, corpses are 
disgusting, and thus they make good subjects for stories.


Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
Oh I don't like that one, too deep and dark for me lol.  I do like the idea 
of when you die slipping into another body, I'd pick one with working eyes. 

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It depends upon the system.

In it's strictist sense, if I remember my voodu, a zombi is literally a 
walking corpse, ie, a being with a spirit stil wandering around the earth, 
who also happens to be dead. Apparently zombies could be very powerful 
prietst and magicians,  particularly because their bodies were dead, 
even though there minds and spirits were stil okay.


Recently though, --- probably in the trend started by the Richard matheson 
novel I am legend (generally creddited as the first zombi appocalypse 
novel, filmed as night of the living dead), the term zombi means literally 
an animated corpse with little to know spirit or will power of it's own, 
only usually a desire for hunge, indeed often zombies are forced to 
someone else's will or command.


ghosts, vampires and various other undead beings are held to possess a 
will of their own,  hence the difference.


of course, these aren't hard and fast rules. skeletons can be one thing or 
the other,  the aztech death god Miktanticutli (appologies for miss 
spelling), was depicted as a walking skeleton, though of course in fiction 
skeletons are also often the slaves of  others (look at entombed).


Then, just to confuse things further, the original I am legend book didn't 
feature zombies, but vampires!  though this was changed in the night of 
the living dead film, and the vampires in the book are certainly more like 
the classic zombi than count dracular.


I suppose the distinctions is that "undead" is just a wandering  carcus 
which really has no volition to act on it's own accept perhaps hunger, 
where as living dead refers to something which acts alive even though it 
was dead,  though once again, this can be up to the whim of the 
author.


I suppose ultimately it's just that death is mysterious, corpses are 
disgusting, and thus they make good subjects for stories.


Beware the grue!

Dark.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Phil, how do you change speed for the sounds? 

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Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to take
acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned that you
wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full run when in
actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking about the relative
speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably should change it to give
each enemy a different rate of speed when attacking. Centaurs could indeed
be running at you, and  would cover much ground very quickly.  Harpies can
fly so also could move pretty quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously
move much slower and not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures
usually are pretty slow in games. This way each enemy would be more
realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
> Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
> And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put 
> the lower pitch sound in the game?
>
> And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
> thanks,
> Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Muhammed Deniz
A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the code,
just going to look at how many lines the code has. 

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That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration and
was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
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> Hi Phil,
> Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player 
> comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then 
> decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this 
> is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo 
> next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a 
> backup directory.
> As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be 
> rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be 
> soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result 
> I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or 
> handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a 
> todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am 
> totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just 
> thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.
>
> Smile.
>
> On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>> Great work in beta 12!
>> I have two comments.
>> I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
>> It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in 
>> about
>> 2
>> seconds.
>> It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75 
>> percent of the current pitch.
>> My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when 
>> entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
>> I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in 
>> an echoing tomb.
>> Thanks,
>> Phil
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Yeah. Also, when the game is released, it says what's it about. And that's
why documentations are required. And also, could you stop asking how much
bosses it has? Yes, I no the list is to ask questions, but, this is how
gaming partly works, some things are hidden in the game. So and this is the
trooth, either you'll read the documentation and if it doesn't have the
numbers of bosses, well, that's something to discuvver your self... Isn't
it? I don't mean like no boss help or off cource that's welcome, but with
out trying the game... That's abit well... Not trying it meaning
basically... So please don't take this as flaiming, but I just kuvered some
points.
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It's probably a good thing you got to that question before me Dark. I don't
know if I'd have been able to be so polite. And compared to what my version
likely would have been this was indeed polite.
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> Michael, out of interest, when you have a copy of a game sitting in 
> front of you all ready to play, why do you spend so much time asking 
> people what the game is about?
>
> might I suggest you try playing and finding out for yourselff,  it 
> tends to be much more fun.
>
> appologies if this is rude, but while I am very happy to answer 
> questions from people who are stuck in a game, wish to know where to 
> find a given game, are having problems running a game, many of your 
> questions Michael just seem effectively requests for people to tell 
> you what is in a game to save you the trouble of playing it,  case 
> inn point, the below question.
>
> If you want to play a game, play it, explore it and enjoy it! if not, 
>  not!
>
> we've lead you to many games over the past few weeks, and I find 
> myself wondering if you've played any of them for more than five 
> minutes, or just tried for a bit, then asked on this list essentially 
> what you most wanted to find out from the game, then asked again about 
> other games you could play for the next five minutes.
>
> This really isn't fair to the people who spend so much time work and 
> effort into making games,  it's like taking a great novel, reading 
> the first page, asking for a summary of the plot and then moving on to 
> the next one.
>
> I'm really sorry if this seems out of line, but after  considdering 
> your questions I do really wonder how seriously you take gaming, and 
> how much effort you put into things, and whether you should perhaps 
> rethink your stratogy and atitude.
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> dark.
>
>
>
>
> Beware the Grue!
>
> Dark.- Original Message -
> From: "michael barnes" 
> To: 
> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 10:59 PM
> Subject: [Audyssey] some body answer this
>
>
>> hey how long does it take to play the last crusade?  and do you ever 
>> go to different kind of towns?
>>
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Re: [Audyssey] Games for iPhone?

2010-05-10 Thread william lomas
oh did they update the release info last time i heard was just june?

On May 8, 2010, at 2:58 PM, Orin wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> Papa Sangre will be coming out in about a month apparently.
> 
> http://www.papasangre.com
> 
> 
> On May 6, 2010, at 2:51 PM, Richard Emling wrote:
> 
>> Hello List.
>> 
>> Is there another game around like Soul Trapper on the iPhone? I just 
>> finished this nice stuff of interactive audio play and now i am waiting for 
>> something comparable. Every idea is welcome.
>> 
>> Regards
>> 
>> Richard 
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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes
i got the game from a download link on the list.  and it did not come 
with a document that have instructions.  when i download the game it 
just cane with the game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson

You would have to use an audio editor like Gold Wave.
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Phil, how do you change speed for the sounds?

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Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to take
acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned that you
wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full run when in
actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking about the relative
speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably should change it to give
each enemy a different rate of speed when attacking. Centaurs could indeed
be running at you, and  would cover much ground very quickly.  Harpies can
fly so also could move pretty quickly. Skeletons and zombies would 
obviously

move much slower and not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures
usually are pretty slow in games. This way each enemy would be more
realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put
the lower pitch sound in the game?

And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. I 
would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more would be 
my guess though, thusands in fact.
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A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

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That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and

was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
focus on that more than anything.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder though 
if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and maybe 
mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd 
double check.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more would 
be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and

was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Charles Rivard
I'll bet that he gives the number of lines rather than giving out the code. 
If you manufactured cars, would you send someone a car because they wanted 
to take it apart and count the pieces to see how many there are?  I don't 
think so.  (grin)

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more would 
be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and

was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance, 
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up that 
way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on 
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on or 
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to do. 
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed out 
first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder though 
if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and maybe 
mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd 
double check.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more 
would be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and
was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I 
would

focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
Good lord no. LOL. Although I would be curious to know how many lines of 
code MOTA equals out to.
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of ggh.
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From: "Charles Rivard" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I'll bet that he gives the number of lines rather than giving out the 
code. If you manufactured cars, would you send someone a car because they 
wanted to take it apart and count the pieces to see how many there are?  I 
don't think so.  (grin)

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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 10:55 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more 
would be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and
was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I 
would

focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Well, as I sed...

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Sent: 10 May 2010 16:53
To: gamers@audyssey.org
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

i got the game from a download link on the list.  and it did not come with a
document that have instructions.  when i download the game it just cane with
the game.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Phil,
Yeah, the Genesis engine also has a speed setting for players and
enemies but for some reason it never ocurred to me to give each enemy
a unique speed setting.  I just set them to the default speed, and
didn't think about it after that.
At any rate the figures you gave me squares with what I was thinking
of using for the new speed settings.  I think a horse can average 25
miles per hour so 180 to 240 feet per minute sounds about right for
centaurs and similar creatures.  Harpies would move slightly slower,
but still quite fast. As for humans 120 feet per minute sounds pretty
reasonable for a brisk walk. So I'd say these speed  settings sound
very doable. Thanks for the info.

On 5/10/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I should have realized that they are all moving at the same rate.
> In the GMA game engine, there is a speed attribute to determine how fast a
> creature can move across a ten foot cell.
>  Of course the size of the cell can also change from 10 feet to anything
> else.
> In Dungeons and Dragons the rate of movement is 10 feet per minute indoors
> times a modifier.
> For humans it is 12, so the human rate is 120 feet per minute in a dungeon
> This walk is at a fairly brisk, though not strenuous pace.
>
> For a horse the modifier is 18 to 24 so
> 180 to 240 feet per minute in a dungeon
> For a dwarf it is 6, or 60 feet per minute.
> Skeletons  move at 6.
> Centaurs move at 18.
> Zombies at 6.
> Harpies  fly at a rate of 15, or 150 feet per minute.
>
> Phil
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
Well, excluding third-party headers, libraries, and such Visual C++
says the main source files is 39,268 lines of code.  That's roughly
654 pages of single spaced tightly typed text. Oh, and it isn't done
yet. Answer your question for yeah?

Smile.

On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> Good lord no. LOL. Although I would be curious to know how many lines of
> code MOTA equals out to.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
> though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up that
> way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
> higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on or
> off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to do.
> And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed out
> first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
H...That could be done easily enough, but I've got a warning
system in the engine that will let you know when a trap is close by.
The only thing is I haven't quite figured out what is the best way to
 finish adding it to the engine. I'm thinking an option in the
settings menu to turn it on/off for those who want it and those who
don't.

Smile.

On 5/10/10, Lori Duncan  wrote:
> Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder though
> if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and maybe
> mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd
> double check.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
Wow. I'd hate to see all that in print or even braille. I shudder to imagine 
how much space it would take up in braille.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Well, excluding third-party headers, libraries, and such Visual C++
says the main source files is 39,268 lines of code.  That's roughly
654 pages of single spaced tightly typed text. Oh, and it isn't done
yet. Answer your question for yeah?

Smile.

On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Good lord no. LOL. Although I would be curious to know how many lines of
code MOTA equals out to.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
I would say have it only on easy and/or medium but not on the higher 
settings. Either that or make it a setting to be toggled on or off according 
to each individual player's preferences, assuming of course that could be 
coded relatively easily.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that

way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Now, that would be scary.  How many braille volumes do you want. Grin.
If I am not mistaken usually a standard print page equals about three
braille pages.  That's usually with contractions though. Since my code
couldn't use contractions, and would have to be done in grade 1
braille you are talking a massive load of pages. More than I want to
count.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> Wow. I'd hate to see all that in print or even braille. I shudder to imagine
> how much space it would take up in braille.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Michael Feir
I would definitely go for an on/off setting approach here. I would tend not 
to use them myself. That intro gets pretty annoying after the fourth of 
fifth time you hear it. Will we be able to skip that in the full version?

Michael Feir
Author of Personal Power:
How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
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- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that

way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Phil Vlasak

Hi Thomas,
A few suggestions about the intro.
Instead of trying to have a key to skip it, you could have the game detect 
how many times the game was run, and then at the third or fourth play, have 
the game automatically skip the intro.

Or have the intro skip as one of the options.
Or have a random intro file played and the long one only once every ten 
plays.
Phil 



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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Muhammed Deniz
Yeah. 

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Hi Bryan,
Well, excluding third-party headers, libraries, and such Visual C++ says the
main source files is 39,268 lines of code.  That's roughly
654 pages of single spaced tightly typed text. Oh, and it isn't done yet.
Answer your question for yeah?

Smile.

On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> Good lord no. LOL. Although I would be curious to know how many lines 
> of code MOTA equals out to.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
> castle of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi,
Well, I think the on/off setting in the program settings menu is
probably the easiest, and the most practical solution as well.

On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> I would say have it only on easy and/or medium but not on the higher
> settings. Either that or make it a setting to be toggled on or off according
> to each individual player's preferences, assuming of course that could be
> coded relatively easily.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael,
Yes. As I said to Dark earlier I certainly hope so. However, the
problem is that the game is failing to accept keyboard input when that
particular cutscene is playing. Sometime between and final release I'd
like to be able to fix that so you can skip it if you wish. It is just
one of those things I'd like to fix, but is something of a low
priority bug at the moment.

HTH


On 5/10/10, Michael Feir  wrote:
> I would definitely go for an on/off setting approach here. I would tend not
> to use them myself. That intro gets pretty annoying after the fourth of
> fifth time you hear it. Will we be able to skip that in the full version?
> Michael Feir
> Author of Personal Power:
> How Accessible Computers Can Enhance Personal Life For Blind People
> 2006-2008
> www.blind-planet.com/content/personal-power
>
> A Life of Word and Sound
> 2003-2007
> http://www.blind-planet.com/content/life-word-and-sound
>
> Creator and former editor of Audyssey Magazine
> 1996-2004
> Check out my blog at:
> www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com
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[Audyssey] For Dark

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
Hi Dark, for some strange reason i had to start my Terraforma's game again, it 
was like everytime i loaded in the lab I couldn't seem to move anywhere, and my 
numlock was on.  Anyway I just unlocked the door with the 3 tonewheels, but 
when I go in the door and walk over the bridge I still seem to end up back at 
the open space with the wheels and powerstation, As soon as I went through that 
door I got a part for the computer then hit a wall, the only clear space seemed 
to take me back to that same yard I was in earlier, maybe I'm missing a door 
somewhere?  
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Lori Duncan
Goodness I thought Lord of the Rings was bad enough!!  Will stick to both 
audio codes and audio Lord of the Rings.
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Hi,
Now, that would be scary.  How many braille volumes do you want. Grin.
If I am not mistaken usually a standard print page equals about three
braille pages.  That's usually with contractions though. Since my code
couldn't use contractions, and would have to be done in grade 1
braille you are talking a massive load of pages. More than I want to
count.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
Wow. I'd hate to see all that in print or even braille. I shudder to 
imagine

how much space it would take up in braille.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Muhammed,
Well,obviously I'm not about to share my source code, but I can tell
you how many lines are in the game at present. As I told Bryan a
little while ago Visual C++ reports 39,286  lines of code total. Quite
a lot eh?

On 5/10/10, Muhammed Deniz  wrote:
> A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
> for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the code,
> just going to look at how many lines the code has.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan,
I think it is more a matter of semantics than anything else.
Technically speaking, undead can refer to any type of living dead
creature be it a vampire, zombie, skeleton,  or ghost.  Some authors,
particularly those in the RPG genre, tend to make some sort of
distinction between undead and living dead. However, depending on
religion, culture, and where the mythology began you can find some
major differences in the description of the same kind of mythical
creature.
For example, in Entombed a Kobold is some sort of humanoid creature
that can subdivide etc. However, while this type of Kobold is popular
in Dungeons and Dragons type adventures it is completely unlike the
original historical description of a Kobold. For historians, like me,
a Kobold is a small mischievous type of creature, kind of like an elf,
that was popular in Germanic folklore.  Completely different from what
people think kobolds are today.
The same kind of confusing twist applies to this subject of the undead
and living dead.  A skeleton is generally regarded as a dull witted
undead creature controlled by a necromancer or spell caster. However,
there are plenty of skeleton creatures in mythology where it is a
cruel and an intelligent creature of the undead.
For example, the Grim Reaper is always shown as a skeleton dressed in
black robes who comes to claim the souls of the dead, and also rides a
pale horse.  The Grim Reaper is considered to be dead, but also alive
and intelligent. If that isn’t confusing I don’t know what is.
As for Zombies again this depends on which legend you hold to be true
for your story. In Voodoo zombies are creatures where the body dies,
but its spirit is alive and under the control of the person who
enslaved the zombie.  They are not completely mindless creatures, but
they are under the direct control of a master.
In modern horror films and games zombies are completely different.
They tend to be mindless creatures with no will of their own but to
kill and feed on the living.  The may or may not have a master. In
movies like Night of the Living Dead they hunt for humans in hordes,
moaning, and are not very intelligent monsters.  Again, not at all
like what the original stories and mythology says about them.
So what is the difference between living dead and undead? Beats me. I
think the two terms are pretty much one and the same.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
> Sorry for the off-topic question but what's the real difference between a
> creature that's just dead one that's undead. Zombies I've heard would be
> considered undead but I've heard skeletons and ghosts aren't.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle
> of ggh.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson

That would be my suggestion.
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of ggh.
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To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 1:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi,
H...That could be done easily enough, but I've got a warning
system in the engine that will let you know when a trap is close by.
The only thing is I haven't quite figured out what is the best way to
finish adding it to the engine. I'm thinking an option in the
settings menu to turn it on/off for those who want it and those who
don't.

Smile.

On 5/10/10, Lori Duncan  wrote:
Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder 
though
if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and 
maybe

mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd
double check.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread dark
I'm really in two minds here. the fires were a right royal pain when i 
started, but now I've got the positioning right  and can check with the view 
command I don't mind as much. Maybe the option of a "wooow" sound before 
walking down harzards rather like tj had (sinse Tom's got himself such a 
good voice actress), --- but I'm not even certainly if this would make 
things too easy.


Beware the grue!

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- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder though 
if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and maybe 
mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd 
double check.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more 
would be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle of ggh.
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To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and
was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I 
would

focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
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From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread dark
Nice thought Bryan, an option on beginner as a training aide, which you lose 
later for more challenge, this would also help people sort their positioning 
out without having to spend so many lives geting flamed or spiked just while 
learning the properties of the game.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 
To: "Lori Duncan" ; "Gamers Discussion list" 


Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 5:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance, 
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not 
on higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those 
on or off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing 
to do. And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts 
ironed out first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Lori Duncan" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder 
though if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, 
and maybe mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I 
thought I'd double check.
- Original Message - 
From: "Bryan Peterson" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 4:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that 
purpose. I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably 
more would be my guess though, thusands in fact.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle of ggh.
- Original Message - 
From: "Muhammed Deniz" 

To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you 
have
for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
code,

just going to look at how many lines the code has.

-Original Message-
From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] 
On

Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
To: Gamers Discussion list
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
project
as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
and
was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I 
would

focus on that more than anything.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.
- Original Message -
From: "Thomas Ward" 
To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Phil,
Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
backup directory.
As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:

Hi Thomas,
Great work in beta 12!
I have two comments.
I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
about
2
seconds.
It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
percent of the current pitch.
My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
an echoing tomb.
Thanks,
Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread dark

Hi tom.

As I said to bryan, my vote goes to the beginner mode setting. This lets 
people get used to the game and it's position, but stil preserves the 
challenge of accurate sound positioning of ledges.


for a really good example of how this can change challenge look at 
superliam. Fans on the waterworks have no audio step warning, which makes 
them much harder to calculate.


I'm not particularly dogmatic on this, and if people would prefer it 
available when playing on expert,  well fine, it's just personal opinion 
that the game should be made easy at easy  difficulty levels, and hard at 
harder ones, and sinse warning contribute to ease of game play this seems 
logical to me.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that

way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread dark
hmmm, tom,  maybe a the subject for a new trucker game? decide how many 
volumes fof braille coding to load onto your truck, --- too many and you 
risk lines getting squashed by the weight, to few and your game may not be 
ready in time and you end up being linched by a rampaging mob of angry fans! 
;D.


That is a truly staggering! amount of code, I'm impressed.

I did suspect the game would've been large, but I would've guessed more like 
ten thousand lines at most,  or does this also count internal coding for 
running the genesis engine?


Beware the grue!

Dark.
- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi,
Now, that would be scary.  How many braille volumes do you want. Grin.
If I am not mistaken usually a standard print page equals about three
braille pages.  That's usually with contractions though. Since my code
couldn't use contractions, and would have to be done in grade 1
braille you are talking a massive load of pages. More than I want to
count.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
Wow. I'd hate to see all that in print or even braille. I shudder to 
imagine

how much space it would take up in braille.
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of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] For Dark

2010-05-10 Thread dark

Well the layout is actually very symple once you get it.

each of the three levels after the tutorial is layed out like a clock face. 
there are computer stations at 6 and 12 O.clock, with you starting at the 
six, and parts at 3 and 9 O.clock which you have to solve puzles to get.


The really crazy thing is the puzles are duplicated, so you find the same 
puzle whether you go east or west. thusif you go west from the start you 
find three tone wheels at 7.oclock before the part at 9, then come out in a 
room with another! three tone wheels at ten O.clock before getting to the 
final computer station at 12.


So, no matter which way you go, byou'll alwyas find the same puzle. You only 
have to solve it once, sinse the door outward will always be unlocked, but 
it's stil quite irritating.


this was one reason i suggested that the   engine, while a great concept 
really! needed a more complex maze to bring it to life, sinse the redundency 
in the game is really irritating.


Beware the Grue!

Dark.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:07 PM
Subject: [Audyssey] For Dark


Hi Dark, for some strange reason i had to start my Terraforma's game 
again, it was like everytime i loaded in the lab I couldn't seem to move 
anywhere, and my numlock was on.  Anyway I just unlocked the door with the 
3 tonewheels, but when I go in the door and walk over the bridge I still 
seem to end up back at the open space with the wheels and powerstation, As 
soon as I went through that door I got a part for the computer then hit a 
wall, the only clear space seemed to take me back to that same yard I was 
in earlier, maybe I'm missing a door somewhere?

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Yohandy

Thomas,
I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not a 
good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate any 
more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games great how 
it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters with various 
speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and more difficult 
which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle option for the traps 
but once that option is available, it will be real tempting to try it if 
we're having problems. better to remove such temptations by not including 
the feature at all.



- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that

way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Bryan Peterson
I disagree. It will give new players something to help them learn the best 
position to jump. True there are going to be those who come to use that as a 
crutch I'll admit but that's true of anything in life. And anyway it 
wouldn't even be an option for the higher difficulty settings.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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From: "Yohandy" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Thomas,
I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not a 
good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate any 
more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games great 
how it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters with 
various speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and more 
difficult which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle option for 
the traps but once that option is available, it will be real tempting to 
try it if we're having problems. better to remove such temptations by not 
including the feature at all.



- Original Message - 
From: "Thomas Ward" 

To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:

Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that

way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

of ggh.


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Re: [Audyssey] beep

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Enes,
 You don't. It's just guesswork. And, where'd you find that out?
Best Regards,
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hi,
i have 30 now
i want to get athere's lucky day plus it says thati should get
destroyed when the commander has 5 health point how do i know this

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Yohandy,
I personally don't like a game to be "hard". I consider that completely
different from challenging. Hard sounds quite spiteful, like the developer
is saying, "let's make this game impossible to beat!" Sorry if I'm being
knitpicky  here...grin
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 8:45 PM
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I disagree. It will give new players something to help them learn the best 
position to jump. True there are going to be those who come to use that as a

crutch I'll admit but that's true of anything in life. And anyway it 
wouldn't even be an option for the higher difficulty settings.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


> Thomas,
> I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
> challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not a

> good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate any

> more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games great 
> how it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters with 
> various speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and more 
> difficult which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle option for 
> the traps but once that option is available, it will be real tempting to 
> try it if we're having problems. better to remove such temptations by not 
> including the feature at all.
>
>
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Thomas Ward" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>
>
>> Hi Bryan,
>> Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
>> feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
>> but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
>> go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
>> this feature into the game.
>> First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
>> beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
>> higher difficulty to.
>> Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
>> enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
>> Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
>> when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
>> of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
>> better to me.
>> I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
>> it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
>> add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
>> disable it of course.
>>
>> Smile.
>>
>>
>> On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
>>> Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
>>> though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
>>> that
>>> way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
>>> higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on

>>> or
>>> off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
>>> do.
>>> And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
>>> out
>>> first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
>>> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
>>> castle
>>> of ggh.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas,
Ditto. I like option 2.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Thomas,
I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not a 
good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate any 
more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games great how

it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters with various 
speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and more difficult 
which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle option for the traps 
but once that option is available, it will be real tempting to try it if 
we're having problems. better to remove such temptations by not including 
the feature at all.


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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


> Hi Bryan,
> Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
> feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
> but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
> go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
> this feature into the game.
> First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
> beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
> higher difficulty to.
> Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
> enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
> Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
> when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
> of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
> better to me.
> I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
> it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
> add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
> disable it of course.
>
> Smile.
>
>
> On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
>> Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping distance,
>> though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
>> that
>> way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not on
>> higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those on 
>> or
>> off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
>> do.
>> And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
>> out
>> first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
>> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
>> castle
>> of ggh.
>
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[Audyssey] papasangre question

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes
hey this game call papasangre.  is it the first accessible game for the 
iphone?  i know their are some video games that some what work with 
voice over.  but is papasangre the first full accessible game for the 
blind on the iphone?  and does anyone know how much this game is going 
to be?  i'm looking forward to this game.


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi,
That's how many lines, but how many statements do you have? I don't really
want to think about that.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi Thomas,
A few suggestions about the intro.
Instead of trying to have a key to skip it, you could have the game detect 
how many times the game was run, and then at the third or fourth play, have 
the game automatically skip the intro.
Or have the intro skip as one of the options.
Or have a random intro file played and the long one only once every ten 
plays.
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Lori,
Personally, I agree with this--after all, the chasms have them.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

Well I just managed to complete the demo, spikes and all!  I wonder though 
if it'd be possible to put a mettle edge around the spike traps, and maybe 
mud round the fires?  I think this has been said before but I thought I'd 
double check.
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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


>I seriously doubt Thomas is going to share the code even for that purpose. 
>I would guess several hundred lines though if not more. Probably more would

>be my guess though, thusands in fact.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle

> of ggh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Muhammed Deniz" 
> To: "'Gamers Discussion list'" 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:33 AM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>
>
>>A question for you Thomas. Could I please look at how many lines you have
>> for tomb hunter in coding lines? Don't worry, not going to change the 
>> code,
>> just going to look at how many lines the code has.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: gamers-boun...@audyssey.org [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On
>> Behalf Of Bryan Peterson
>> Sent: 10 May 2010 03:25
>> To: Gamers Discussion list
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>>
>> That would be my call as well Thomas. If I'd spent as much time as a 
>> project
>> as you have, once I got the game to a more or less stable configuration 
>> and
>> was more or less closing in on a release date, even if tentative, I would
>> focus on that more than anything.
>> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
>> castle
>> of ggh.
>> - Original Message -
>> From: "Thomas Ward" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Sunday, May 09, 2010 5:53 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>>
>>
>>> Hi Phil,
>>> Yes, I've been thinking of adding some reverb/echo to the player
>>> comments as well. In fact, i did do it for a test release, but then
>>> decided against it and put the regular files back in. However, if this
>>> is something you really want I can certainly add the ones with echo
>>> next time since it is just a matter of copying in the new ones from a
>>> backup directory.
>>> As far as the centaur's goes I like them the way they are. Not to be
>>> rude or anything, but the next couple of months I am going to be
>>> soully focused on  actually completing the game itself. As a result
>>> I'm not going to be  spending a lot of time on adjusting sounds or
>>> handling a lot of miner suggestions or requests.  I'll put them in a
>>> todo list, and I'll get to them if and when I can. However, I am
>>> totally focused on just getting the game completed right now. I just
>>> thought I'd let everyone know where I stand.
>>>
>>> Smile.
>>>
>>> On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
 Hi Thomas,
 Great work in beta 12!
 I have two comments.
 I think the Centaur Move sounds are too fast.
 It sounds like full gallop which should have the creature on you in
 about
 2
 seconds.
 It would sound more realistic if it was slowed down a bit such as 75
 percent of the current pitch.
 My second comment is  Angela's voice has echo on the first file when
 entering the tomb, but not much on the comments in the tomb.
 I think a little more echo would make her voice sound like she was in
 an echoing tomb.
 Thanks,
 Phil


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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Michael,
I don't know if you actually Played Last Crusade, but if you did you'll know
there's an atem for instructions in the main menu.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

i got the game from a download link on the list.  and it did not come 
with a document that have instructions.  when i download the game it 
just cane with the game.

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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes
hey hayden i did listen to the instructions and i do enjoy the game.  
what i was wondering is can you create your own map?


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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Yohandy
and why couldn't they simply use the options included with the game? why 
should the game be simplified when there's no need? if we're gonna analyze 
things this way, then I guess enemies have to be slowed down also cause they 
kill you too fast, and statues should be removed automatically for the 
average player to have an easy time. perhaps there shouldn't be any pits to 
make things easier? where do we draw the line?



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Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released


I disagree. It will give new players something to help them learn the best 
position to jump. True there are going to be those who come to use that as 
a crutch I'll admit but that's true of anything in life. And anyway it 
wouldn't even be an option for the higher difficulty settings.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle 
of ggh.
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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Thomas,
I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not 
a good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate 
any more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games 
great how it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters 
with various speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and 
more difficult which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle 
option for the traps but once that option is available, it will be real 
tempting to try it if we're having problems. better to remove such 
temptations by not including the feature at all.



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To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released



Hi Bryan,
Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
this feature into the game.
First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
higher difficulty to.
Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
better to me.
I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
disable it of course.

Smile.


On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping 
distance,
though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
that
way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not 
on
higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those 
on or
off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to 
do.
And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed 
out

first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
castle

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Re: [Audyssey] MOTA Inquiries

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Thomas,
Lol..you just might have. I just never looked. 
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Hi Hayden,
Sorry, about that. Speak strength is no longer on g. Use the s key for
speak strength. I think I documented it in the manual, but if not I'll
correct it asap.

HTH


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> Hi,
> Also, as I believe I mentioned, the g key does not work.
> Best Regards,
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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Yohandy,
While we're thinking this way--heck, why do we need four difficulty levels?
Best Regards,
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and why couldn't they simply use the options included with the game? why 
should the game be simplified when there's no need? if we're gonna analyze 
things this way, then I guess enemies have to be slowed down also cause they

kill you too fast, and statues should be removed automatically for the 
average player to have an easy time. perhaps there shouldn't be any pits to 
make things easier? where do we draw the line?


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Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 9:45 PM
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>I disagree. It will give new players something to help them learn the best 
>position to jump. True there are going to be those who come to use that as 
>a crutch I'll admit but that's true of anything in life. And anyway it 
>wouldn't even be an option for the higher difficulty settings.
> He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the castle

> of ggh.
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Yohandy" 
> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 7:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>
>
>> Thomas,
>> I'd vote against such a feature. We need this game to be hard and 
>> challenging, and such warnings will make things much easier which is not 
>> a good thing. you did say that from now on you weren't gonna incorporate 
>> any more user suggestions, and I think you should stick to that. Games 
>> great how it is now. except for that speed idea you mentioned. monsters 
>> with various speed rates would definitely make the game more fun, and 
>> more difficult which is what we need. yes I know there's the toggle 
>> option for the traps but once that option is available, it will be real 
>> tempting to try it if we're having problems. better to remove such 
>> temptations by not including the feature at all.
>>
>>
>> - Original Message - 
>> From: "Thomas Ward" 
>> To: "Gamers Discussion list" 
>> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:22 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>>
>>
>>> Hi Bryan,
>>> Actually, that is something I was meaning to ask the list about. The
>>> feature to warn the player a trap is near is still in the game engine,
>>> but temperarily disabled.  I've even got most of the warnings ready to
>>> go, but was wondering how you, the game player's would like me to add
>>> this feature into the game.
>>> First, we could set it up that those warnings are available on the
>>> beginner level. That works, but there may be times you want it on a
>>> higher difficulty to.
>>> Second, we could have an on/off setting in the program settings to
>>> enable/disable those warnings which makes the most sense to me.
>>> Third, we could do something like a training mode option that pops up
>>> when you start the game like do you want training messages to warn you
>>> of traps, monsters, etc. That is also doable, but option two seams
>>> better to me.
>>> I guess what do you think. I'm willing to do it however you guys think
>>> it would work best in the engine. I state the engine here as once I
>>> add it will be available for just about any game I build unless I
>>> disable it of course.
>>>
>>> Smile.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/10/10, Bryan Peterson  wrote:
 Or maybe the character warning you when you get within jumping 
 distance,
 though perhaps only on the easy setting. I know Thomas had that set up 
 that
 way in one of the prior Betas where it would warn you on easy but not 
 on
 higher difficulties. Or maybe you could have the option to turn those 
 on or
 off in the settings menu. Guess it depends on what Thomas is willing to

 do.
 And anyway he's going to focus on getting the really major parts ironed

 out
 first before he adds anymore user suggestions.
 He who is valiant and pure of spirit may find the holy grail in the 
 castle
 of ggh.
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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Michael,
Hmmm...the mapmaker of course does allow you to do so, however I recall
reading that it wasn't actually screenreader accessible at the moment.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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hey hayden i did listen to the instructions and i do enjoy the game.  
what i was wondering is can you create your own map?

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Phil,
Also, that may be waling speed for the centaur. Possibly it just gallops
very fast?
Best Reagrds,
Hayden

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Hi Phil,
By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to
take acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned
that you wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full
run when in actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking
about the relative speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably
should change it to give each enemy a different rate of speed when
attacking. Centaurs could indeed be running at you, and  would cover
much ground very quickly.  Harpies can fly so also could move pretty
quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously move much slower and
not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures usually are pretty
slow in games. This way each enemy would be more realistic and unique.
What do you think?

Smile.

On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
> Hi Thomas,
> I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
> Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
> And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put the
> lower pitch sound in the game?
>
> And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
> thanks,
> Phil

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Re: [Audyssey] need help with last crusade

2010-05-10 Thread Hayden Presley
Hi Michael,
I'm not sure exactly what your asking, although I think I know. The level is
just a relative ranking. If you have a lower level weapon or armor, you want
to replace it, no questions asked.
Best Regards,
Hayden

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Subject: [Audyssey] need help with last crusade

hey when i was playing the last crusade i got a level 5 weapon but 
little bit later on after i got this weapon and i defeated an enemy it 
ask if i wanted to switch out my level 2 weapon for a  level5 weapon.  
so the question is do you have to level up weapons an other stuff by 
going through level by level?  exsample start with level one and then 
go to level two weapon.

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Re: [Audyssey] some body answer this

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes
hey hayden.  do you know if papa sangre is the first accessible game 
for the iphone?  i know there is some video games that some what work 
with voice over but they only work half of the time.  that is why i 
ask.  i went to the site but it was hard to move around .


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[Audyssey] Last week

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Maslo
Can someone please give me some hints on the last week game and how to get
around in the hotel? I do not know what to say to Monica to make her talk or
the rest of them. Please can someone help?

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[Audyssey] sequel to game

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes
hey is their going to be a sequel to the last crusade?  they could make 
a game series out of it.


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Re: [Audyssey] sequel to game

2010-05-10 Thread Mike Maslo
Can someone tell me where I can get that from? That is where I can get the
last crusaders from?

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hey is their going to be a sequel to the last crusade?  they could make 
a game series out of it.

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Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released

2010-05-10 Thread Ryan Chou
hi thomas,
I like the on/off setting the most

On 5/10/10, Hayden Presley  wrote:
> Hi Phil,
> Also, that may be waling speed for the centaur. Possibly it just gallops
> very fast?
> Best Reagrds,
> Hayden
>
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> Behalf Of Thomas Ward
> Sent: Monday, May 10, 2010 3:51 AM
> To: Gamers Discussion list
> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Mysteries of the Ancients Beta 12 Released
>
> Hi Phil,
> By the way, before you do change the centaur sounds you might want to
> take acount of an idea I just had for beta 13.  When you mentioned
> that you wondered why the centaur's sounded like they are at a full
> run when in actuality they are only walking. That got me thinking
> about the relative speed of all of the enemies, and that I probably
> should change it to give each enemy a different rate of speed when
> attacking. Centaurs could indeed be running at you, and  would cover
> much ground very quickly.  Harpies can fly so also could move pretty
> quickly. Skeletons and zombies would obviously move much slower and
> not be too quick on their feet. Undead creatures usually are pretty
> slow in games. This way each enemy would be more realistic and unique.
> What do you think?
>
> Smile.
>
> On 5/9/10, Phil Vlasak  wrote:
>> Hi Thomas,
>> I did notice the sounds are in .wav non-encrypted format.
>> Do you plan to keep them in that format in the final release.
>> And if so could I adjust the sound of the Centaur to my liking and put the
>> lower pitch sound in the game?
>>
>> And also create a mod pack of sounds if others want the same change?
>> thanks,
>> Phil
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Re: [Audyssey] sequel to game

2010-05-10 Thread michael barnes

here is the link for that game.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3515620/lastcrusade.zip

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Re: [Audyssey] sequel to game

2010-05-10 Thread Oriol Gómez
Mike,
I know I'm not the moderator, but please, please, stop making so many
new threads of old games where the developer isn't even active, or
asking is there an accessibel version of *? etc etc etc. I've seen
more than 5 of these, so please consider it before asking or just
research a bit. I'm not trying to sound obnoxious, but think about it
for a second.
Thanks,
Oriol.

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> here is the link for that game.
> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/3515620/lastcrusade.zip
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Re: [Audyssey] papasangre question

2010-05-10 Thread william lomas
yes it hink so and not sure of price

On May 11, 2010, at 3:14 AM, michael barnes wrote:

> hey this game call papasangre.  is it the first accessible game for the 
> iphone?  i know their are some video games that some what work with voice 
> over.  but is papasangre the first full accessible game for the blind on the 
> iphone?  and does anyone know how much this game is going to be?  i'm looking 
> forward to this game.
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