Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
To be honest, do we even need a magazine. Its been overridden with the email list and the forums of audiogames.net and there is so much out there and so little. Yes if you are in the middle of a project like me its all on but don't take it the wrong way but there is basically f**ck going on. Not actually the case but not as much as it was in the early days of the mag. All or most dev news is outdated and the only sections I ever read were game rescue unit, the imortal gamer, the dnd game stories though of late these have been less humerous than usual but well. Truth be told its been so long between an issue I have forgotten how the mag went. Vaguely I can remember an old dusty volume I read in the middle of the zork dungeons of yesteryear with nothing to do one hot sunny day on my old notebook I got for 300 zorkmids but now a days there is almost to much and not much. Many small projects, a few bigger ones. what to cover. One thing I was tempted to cover was the ifcomp2013 but the voting site really had no access and I was tempted to blog about it on my wordpress but I got caught on testing deathmatch and real life that it never happened and in the scheme of things will never happen at any rate due to many external conditions one of which is remodeling of bits of our house which is enough disruption and some teeth things and a few other things I won't go into here. Yes I did at one stage miss the good old days with the good old mag. However it may as well be the crappy crap a grue does not want to eat. Its been so long with no mag and no regular schedual that I have lost interest in the mag. I aggree something needs to be done and I am happy to do a regular schedual with the mag myself. My thought though is if we are going to do this would to make it a community effort to do the mag or at least have more than 1 person to do it. And we should include those in the audio games forums where the real hackers, crackers and small gamers and startup programmers and project writers seem to live since this is where a lot of the descussions are done. I can't remember them off by heart but there are at least 5-30 hackers that do things right now that probably have the ability and probably at least 5-10 hardcores and another 10 or so standard users that could assist that are actually good. there is an articles room, and I don't think there would be much issue having a magazine room on there. However, I will only aggree to help if there is going to be a regular schedual that can be kept to no matter what real life things get in the way which is why it needs to be more than just 1 person. if not at least have the mag more than once a year. I think we had it 4 times a year maybe twice a year though I'd like it a bit more. I'd also like some sort of cast or between issue things where things could be covered that were not in the issues. There are several sections that in my opinion can go. Letters. Tis section as far as I know is for anyone without the net or not on the right places to get the mag. A lot if not all are on the audiogames forum, some are on the list to. There is no point having list mail in the letters section. In fact anything mentioned on this list and the forums before mag release really shouldn't be included. Next the news from developer section. Most news is either old by the time it appears on the magazine, already read by people or both. There is no real need for it to be honest. While transfering stuff already online worked before it really does not make any favour. I used to read the mag and go this is good, next, next good good good read. Its become out of dat, crap, crap, verry crappy as usual, skip, skip. Oh man why did I get the f**king mag this issue has barely an article that is new. I remember an issue where barely 3 articles interested me the last few mags in fact. If you read the issues audyssey 1-17 and then the issues after that you will gradually notice as the net picks up things drop off and things start to suck I don't mean in the short times where there was nothing to write but constly when there was nothing to write, often about 90% of the mag I had heard allready or hearded updated info, or it was so old it didn't matter. I'd like this to be fixed but to be honest we may have to change the sections. gaming articles can be there, though there must be a way to get access to all the dnd games should one want to listen or read the logs and such of all these without the mag or maybe that could stay. I know this may be a bit much with all the things going on but I'd like something like game rescue unit and adam the imortal gamer to come back, a comic strip which really made the game mag back then. again there are loads on the forum that could probably write stuff like this for the mag based on games game fan fiction swamp and others and such. And ofcause if for example a story has a campaign with it or something that can be
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Shaun, I definitely think there is still a place for the Audyssey Magazine. For one thing not everybody is on the Audyssey List or Audio Games Forum. Many people who are busy with work, family, and other aspects of day to day life don't necessarily want to spend all their time browsing the forum or reading the list. For them the Audyssey Magazine is a nice quarterly summary of what has been going on in our community complete with news, reviews, and other things that may not be on the list or the forum. Any failure in the Audyssey Magazine in any of those areas is really the fault of the editor for not providing a consistent schedule and possibly for not encouraging enough readers to submit new content. Cheers! On 10/29/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: To be honest, do we even need a magazine. Its been overridden with the email list and the forums of audiogames.net and there is so much out there and so little. Yes if you are in the middle of a project like me its all on but don't take it the wrong way but there is basically f**ck going on. Not actually the case but not as much as it was in the early days of the mag. All or most dev news is outdated and the only sections I ever read were game rescue unit, the imortal gamer, the dnd game stories though of late these have been less humerous than usual but well. Truth be told its been so long between an issue I have forgotten how the mag went. Vaguely I can remember an old dusty volume I read in the middle of the zork dungeons of yesteryear with nothing to do one hot sunny day on my old notebook I got for 300 zorkmids but now a days there is almost to much and not much. Many small projects, a few bigger ones. what to cover. One thing I was tempted to cover was the ifcomp2013 but the voting site really had no access and I was tempted to blog about it on my wordpress but I got caught on testing deathmatch and real life that it never happened and in the scheme of things will never happen at any rate due to many external conditions one of which is remodeling of bits of our house which is enough disruption and some teeth things and a few other things I won't go into here. Yes I did at one stage miss the good old days with the good old mag. However it may as well be the crappy crap a grue does not want to eat. Its been so long with no mag and no regular schedual that I have lost interest in the mag. I aggree something needs to be done and I am happy to do a regular schedual with the mag myself. My thought though is if we are going to do this would to make it a community effort to do the mag or at least have more than 1 person to do it. And we should include those in the audio games forums where the real hackers, crackers and small gamers and startup programmers and project writers seem to live since this is where a lot of the descussions are done. I can't remember them off by heart but there are at least 5-30 hackers that do things right now that probably have the ability and probably at least 5-10 hardcores and another 10 or so standard users that could assist that are actually good. there is an articles room, and I don't think there would be much issue having a magazine room on there. However, I will only aggree to help if there is going to be a regular schedual that can be kept to no matter what real life things get in the way which is why it needs to be more than just 1 person. if not at least have the mag more than once a year. I think we had it 4 times a year maybe twice a year though I'd like it a bit more. I'd also like some sort of cast or between issue things where things could be covered that were not in the issues. There are several sections that in my opinion can go. Letters. Tis section as far as I know is for anyone without the net or not on the right places to get the mag. A lot if not all are on the audiogames forum, some are on the list to. There is no point having list mail in the letters section. In fact anything mentioned on this list and the forums before mag release really shouldn't be included. Next the news from developer section. Most news is either old by the time it appears on the magazine, already read by people or both. There is no real need for it to be honest. While transfering stuff already online worked before it really does not make any favour. I used to read the mag and go this is good, next, next good good good read. Its become out of dat, crap, crap, verry crappy as usual, skip, skip. Oh man why did I get the f**king mag this issue has barely an article that is new. I remember an issue where barely 3 articles interested me the last few mags in fact. If you read the issues audyssey 1-17 and then the issues after that you will gradually notice as the net picks up things drop off and things start to suck I don't mean in the short times where there was nothing to write but constly when there was nothing to write, often about 90% of
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Darren, What you say is true to a point, but I blame the editor for that. The publication and distribution of the magazine is suppose to be the editors job, and perhaps we simply need a new editor who will do more than put the magazine together. He or she will need to offer the magazine in more formats besides text such as formatted in HTML and get in touch with more blind organizations etc to see if they will redistribute the magazine to their customers. However, I disagree with you that exposure was the only goal or aim of the Audyssey Magazine. As I said in my prior post not everyone in our community hangs around on the list or the forum on a regular basis. Plenty of them would be happy just to get a monthly, bimonthly, or quarterly summary of what is going on in our community without requiring day to day contact without either. Also the older magazines offered extras such as Adam the Immortal Gamer, game reviews, and sometimes interviews that were not available on the list or forum. All points to revive the magazine and breath new life into it. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. this is an interesting question. I do perfectly agree with your reasoning, about the legitimacy of the magazine and exposure, and indeed if you look at the way web magazines like Spag are still very popular today with their own websites, news letters, facebook groups etc it does seem a lot could be done with getting the word out to people, on the other hand we are in a slightly different era now where social media and distribution is concerned. For example, in the past it'd be necessary to go to a website and check the news manually, or subscribe to a mailing list. Now however with rss feeds, twitter and facebook people can be continually updated. I know for instance on audiogames.net there are not a few people who aren't on the forum or visit the site but do! get our news from facebook, twitter or the rss because any news posted gets transmitted over there, (thank Sander and Richard for the clever setup there). I admit, I am not a social media fan myself and do! prefer checking sites the old fashioned way, but that is a purely personal thing and doesn't hold for a lot of other people. Thus, before you even start thinking on a magazine basis bare in mind people can access what is written on a site in very different ways now from the traditional E-mail monthly distribution, and can for instance more quickly read smaller news items, this is one reason the other news posters and I try to keep the audiogames.net news as uptodate as we can, for all of those who aren't! on site but might still want to know what's going on currently. That being said,obviously there are some advantages to a magazine that you couldn't get with a simple news feed like audiogames.net has. One of them is longer articles, retrospectives, detailed reviews, walkthroughs, stratogy guides, phils' joke columns etc. It was for the purpose of giving people a chance to write these and other people a chance to read them in absense of the audeasy magazine that I in fact created the articles room over on audiogames.net, (and anyone who wants to write such an article would be very welcome to do so over there). It is however equally true that a magazine is by it's very nature a longer read, and thus provides a different and more complete experience than just a brief news post or even a single article. Even though I only caught the tale end of audeasy, issues 50-54 I think, I did myself appreciate the round up, the listing of current information, seeing in one place everything that was going on plus some extras. You could! theoretically achieve this with a news feed if you say had a monthly round up column the way I've seen some blogs do, but certainly I've never been myself inclined to write such a column for audiogames.net, as I couldn't guarantee to do it each month or to remember all the news from everywhere, where as obviously having a magazine as a mostly collective project of all the news it's not necessary for one person to do all the work of individually writing the news items themselves, just for one person to put it all together. Then of course, as you said, a magazine could potentially be distributed off the internet as braille or large print copies to organizations for the blind, it was after all a very brief note in an otherwise silly braille magazine that first told me about the whitestick.co.uk site and indeed got me into playing games on a pc in the first place. Then again, what such distribution would cost, and whethr organizations for the blind would even be interested, (I can almost guess the response from the Rnib), is another matter. So, do we need a magazine? does it do that much more than a blog or news feed would do? is it worth someone taking time to edit, put together and create a website? In fairness I actually don't know, there are arguements on both sides really. Though certainly I'll keep on going with audiogames.net news whatever happens and if there is! a new magazine I'll be glad to mention when issues appear on there as well, though if not, well as I said, any longer articles people might want to write are very welcome on the articles room of the forum, and I'll reporte in the news when such articles are posted. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider world. as for people who are off list, well forums are the way to go i really think this. mailing lists are so clunky in comparison to forums. most people these days don't want to be bombarded with emails. so you can pretty much guarantee that whilst the mag did offer quite a bit of content the list content that ended up on the mag would be of little interest. to be honest with you audiogames.net is doing a far better job than audyssey ever did. because audio games are a little more recognised than lets say games for the blind as a tag name, it's worked in our favour. we have some blind and some sighted people on there for example. it's slowly and surely increasing awareness i think, which the mag in it's old/currant format faled to do. because for the most part it was only list subscribers and a few mag only subs that actually got it. whereas audiogames.net appears on google and other places as well. it's reasonably well represented. if the mag did come back then some serious work would need to be done in order to give it exposure. it isn't acceptible to simply chuck it out there and hope someone happens to read it. Sent from my iPad On 29 Oct 2013, at 13:06, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find forums confusing, while Email is straightforward. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider world. as for people who are off list, well forums are the way to go i really think this. mailing lists are so clunky in comparison to forums. most people these days don't want to be bombarded with emails. so you can pretty much guarantee that whilst the mag did offer quite a bit of content the list content that ended up on the mag would be of little interest. to be honest with you audiogames.net is doing a far better job than audyssey ever did. because audio games are a little more recognised than lets say games for the blind as a tag name, it's worked in our favour. we have some blind and some sighted people on there for example. it's slowly and surely increasing awareness i think, which the mag in it's old/currant format faled to do. because for the most part it was only list subscribers and a few mag only subs that actually got it. whereas audiogames.net appears on google and other places as well. it's reasonably well represented. if the mag did come back then some serious work would need to be done in order to give it exposure. it isn't acceptible to simply chuck it out there and hope someone happens to read it. Sent from my iPad On 29 Oct 2013, at 13:06, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your
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With respect charles,I disagree on the spelling and grammar front, both because A, it's unfair for the poor editer to have to sit and wade through such a dull task, and B, because I don't want my words americanised in grammar or spelling. Albeit I do agree that anyone submitting an article should spellcheck it first and the editer is quite within their rights to tell someone to go off and spellcheck if they haven't. I've actually recently been writing book reviews for http://www.fantasybookreview.co.uk/ and of course, I spell check before posting there, but equally I do use British spelling and grammar and write individualistically. As an example, in British grammar it is utterly in correct to say you can write me on my E-mail address if you have questions to me that sounds utterly wrong! the wording I'd use is write to! me Neither is absolutely %100 correct, indeed it depends which part of the atlantic your on, but I'd not want someone forcing their words on me just as equally as I suspect if Americans were submitting to a British editer they wouldn't want the same. Interestingly enough, apparently Terry Pratchett has very similar arguements whenever his Us publisher sends him draughts of his books to be published in America, and apparently he's got quite justifyably irritated on the subject. Regarding an audio presentation, well not everyone has the ability to reccord podcasts. I'd certainly not be against the idea as perhaps a second publication to audeasy (particularly since sites like blindcooltec and main menue no longer seem to be accepting podcasts on games etc), however I'd suggest it be at most an accompanyment! to the magazine, not a replacement. After all everyone has the ability to write even if everyone doesn't have the equipment or ability to reccord podcasts. Beware the Grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Darren. while I appreciate the comments about the audiogames.net forum, as a correction, actually mailing list are very much still in use precisely because! people can now get E-mails on their iphones, tablets etc and don't! have to go about checking into forums and mucking about online but can just answer as things come in. While I agree I have noticed a lack of sighted members and general exposure on the audeasy list, I feel this is more due to lack of a serious website presense than anyting else, after all Audiogames.net is full of people who saw the website first and it is the site, not the forum that shows up on google. If audeasy had a similarly information filled website that would show up on search engines and could be read by people without need for list subscription, I imagine we'd get the same new in flux of members on list. Actually this is interestingly enough a point in favour of having a professional html magazine website similar to the websites for other webzines like spag. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audiogames forum down
Hi all. the forums are offline going to the page I get this rubbish Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: User md11790db114463 already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /public/sites/stats.creativehero.es/write_logs.php on line 37 Can not connect to database in count.php: it sounds like all users are maxed, never had this before is the server overloaded. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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I think the mag's primary purpose was to keep people informed before the net which iit did. Now though yeah the old format no longer fits. It needs to be majorly expanded which means more than blind games, maybe mainstream and blind and then maybe other things to. I really liked the game mag but to be honest the only reason I read it at all was not because someone told me. back in the day I was moving through a now dead site on my dialup 1.4kbps modem and was really bored. there were these files called aud 1-25.zip, all saying audyssey. I downloaded them to see what they were. Ofcause I opened them and read them but more than not I could have easily deleted them because I forgot what they were the file names were not really descriptive even then the description was well not much to go on. I opened the file and discovered there were and had been loads of the blind out there that played games more than me. Along comes mr broadband and mr internet. And now, well I don't know. Saying that I'd like a mag or some bullitin we could call our own on the entire community. audiogames.net does a massive effort. At 09:51 PM 10/29/2013, you wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] audiogames forum down
Hi San. The forum seems fine now, likely a temporary hitch at most. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com To: gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [Audyssey] audiogames forum down Hi all. the forums are offline going to the page I get this rubbish Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: User md11790db114463 already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /public/sites/stats.creativehero.es/write_logs.php on line 37 Can not connect to database in count.php: it sounds like all users are maxed, never had this before is the server overloaded. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
I aggree, we almost need to have a safety buffer of info or something. ideally we would need to have so much info we couldn't publish in one mag. Every few issues maybe 2-3 we would pull things out and put them up. But we could have a safety valve of 2-3 issues to cover any holes, ofcause thats going to be quite hard to keep active. One way we could have is several editors and several of those have the power to publish. They would be in constant communication, and could role over responsibility should it be needed to publish what they had, maybe if a local submtion point was made to be able to publish what was there who knows. we need a restructure thats for sure. At 02:06 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
I aggree darrin. what say people if we just move the mag to smomething that has the power audiogames.net has a lot of stuff. Adding to it seems to be what is suggested, it has some organisations on it and a lot more people. It has the power to change the universe well enough for the plannet sertainly more than half of it. I like the list but spend a lot of time on the forums. At 02:48 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider world. as for people who are off list, well forums are the way to go i really think this. mailing lists are so clunky in comparison to forums. most people these days don't want to be bombarded with emails. so you can pretty much guarantee that whilst the mag did offer quite a bit of content the list content that ended up on the mag would be of little interest. to be honest with you audiogames.net is doing a far better job than audyssey ever did. because audio games are a little more recognised than lets say games for the blind as a tag name, it's worked in our favour. we have some blind and some sighted people on there for example. it's slowly and surely increasing awareness i think, which the mag in it's old/currant format faled to do. because for the most part it was only list subscribers and a few mag only subs that actually got it. whereas audiogames.net appears on google and other places as well. it's reasonably well represented. if the mag did come back then some serious work would need to be done in order to give it exposure. it isn't acceptible to simply chuck it out there and hope someone happens to read it. Sent from my iPad On 29 Oct 2013, at 13:06, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets were ever used to put the mag out to anybody and everybody regardless of format. It's all well and good to post the mag to the list and then have it archived somewhere but apart from that the mag didn't really do that much. Not for the market anyway for the simple reason that there was no form of exposure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
and it can remain in email format charles, html or on a website no one is suggesting it should soley go over to forums though I admit that would help if it was published on its own room or the articles room in audiogames. We are not after a sole resource it will take more than 1 resource to publish it. the forums need to be used. They are and should not be at all the main resource of the mag. The mag website should be above all the main resource and its mirrors. Then the forums, its blog, the email list. other email lists for the blind and other forums. then social networks, then well on cd distribution and other thing. Bundeled with some free games maybe in fact we should concidder licencing to distributers to have the game bundeled with everything from screenreaders to other programs at least 1 issue, maybe all issues its not that large of a file. Libraries is another things not sure how but still. We need more than one resource and I do not think any resource should be excluded. As for the mag only being for a mailing list to put it politely I think it is vary foolish to limit the mag to one resource. Forget the current mag, its quite crappy. If we redo this the format needs to have a major upgrade as well as the mag as far as I am concerned. The format was for dialup users, and people with floppy drives. And while there may still be some on dialup I can garentee people do no longer use at least on a regular basis floppy drives. At 02:55 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find forums confusing, while Email is straightforward. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider world. as for people who are off list, well forums are the way to go i really think this. mailing lists are so clunky in comparison to forums. most people these days don't want to be bombarded with emails. so you can pretty much guarantee that whilst the mag did offer quite a bit of content the list content that ended up on the mag would be of little interest. to be honest with you audiogames.net is doing a far better job than audyssey ever did. because audio games are a little more recognised than lets say games for the blind as a tag name, it's worked in our favour. we have some blind and some sighted people on there for example. it's slowly and surely increasing awareness i think, which the mag in it's old/currant format faled to do. because for the most part it was only list subscribers and a few mag only subs that actually got it. whereas audiogames.net appears on google and other places as well. it's reasonably well represented. if the mag did come back then some serious work would need to be done in order to give it exposure. it isn't acceptible to simply chuck it out there and hope someone happens to read it. Sent from my iPad On 29 Oct 2013, at 13:06, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: There are people who did not subscribe to the Audyssey list or who did not have the time to look through a forum who could use the quarterly magazine as a way to keep abreast of what is going on in the gaming community. Also, there were features in the mag that couldn't be found elsewhere. I think there is interest in the magazine, but we haven't gotten any issues due to the lack of an editor. To avoid such problems in the future, I think there should be an editor and an assistant editor who can jump in and take over if the editor, for one reason or another, cannot get the next issue published. Also, I think that they should be willing to actually edit, rather than just pasting someone's work into a publication, as sloppiness of writing such as spelling and grammar are a reflection on the publication. Some thought has been given to change the format into an audio format, such as a podcast, so to be up with current technology. I wouldn't mind this if an HTML format also still exists. Magazines should be read, not heard. Thanks. (Sent from my iPhone) On Oct 29, 2013, at 3:51 AM, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: I'm not even sure it's worth having the mag now. I mean, the blind friendly games only get exposure for example if people find their way to the list or the site. Considering that a magazeen is meant to increase exposure of a given topic it fell down there in a massive way because no outlets
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well there is coolblindtech. They are not always garenteeing to put up content but they are approachable on the at least initial setup they may not ofcause include things it is their choice but still. At 03:37 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: With respect charles,I disagree on the spelling and grammar front, both because A, it's unfair for the poor editer to have to sit and wade through such a dull task, and B, because I don't want my words americanised in grammar or spelling. Albeit I do agree that anyone submitting an article should spellcheck it first and the editer is quite within their rights to tell someone to go off and spellcheck if they haven't. I've actually recently been writing book reviews for http://www.fantasybookreview.co.uk/ and of course, I spell check before posting there, but equally I do use British spelling and grammar and write individualistically. As an example, in British grammar it is utterly in correct to say you can write me on my E-mail address if you have questions to me that sounds utterly wrong! the wording I'd use is write to! me Neither is absolutely %100 correct, indeed it depends which part of the atlantic your on, but I'd not want someone forcing their words on me just as equally as I suspect if Americans were submitting to a British editer they wouldn't want the same. Interestingly enough, apparently Terry Pratchett has very similar arguements whenever his Us publisher sends him draughts of his books to be published in America, and apparently he's got quite justifyably irritated on the subject. Regarding an audio presentation, well not everyone has the ability to reccord podcasts. I'd certainly not be against the idea as perhaps a second publication to audeasy (particularly since sites like blindcooltec and main menue no longer seem to be accepting podcasts on games etc), however I'd suggest it be at most an accompanyment! to the magazine, not a replacement. After all everyone has the ability to write even if everyone doesn't have the equipment or ability to reccord podcasts. Beware the Grue! DArk. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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You have a point dark everyone that wants to be everyone has a central website. Its the seat of power and where they shout to the universe at large. Its never took off for us. How much resource would it take to write one or pay for an accessable one which is attractive to be written. We have a server I know maybe we need a bit more of those. That at least can be done. I have seen it with some radio stations with the blind as djs. Enough have been able to buy resource in form of datacentres and enough able to buy or create themselves the resources they need. Ofcause it goes a bit better if you get a few normals on your side ofcause. And get your name bandied round the place like so much crap. If audyssey was something a comman word associated with the blind heck why not make it other disabilities to, physical interlectual, etc maybe we may have power but its all relitive. I am quite sure that within a week or 2, we will get the dreadded notification to close the thread. Then nothing will happen for another year or 10 or 100. What scares me is that I fear a lot of the gaming is down to the first generation gamers. A lot of the newer ones well who knows. When we die, audyssey dies. We need more than us to handle it. In fact we really need someone that is not us to put new life into the mag something outside the core group. Ofcause we would have internal control over it, couldn't allow someone to go off and go nuts, even so we at least need to look attractive. not sure. At 03:42 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Darren. while I appreciate the comments about the audiogames.net forum, as a correction, actually mailing list are very much still in use precisely because! people can now get E-mails on their iphones, tablets etc and don't! have to go about checking into forums and mucking about online but can just answer as things come in. While I agree I have noticed a lack of sighted members and general exposure on the audeasy list, I feel this is more due to lack of a serious website presense than anyting else, after all Audiogames.net is full of people who saw the website first and it is the site, not the forum that shows up on google. If audeasy had a similarly information filled website that would show up on search engines and could be read by people without need for list subscription, I imagine we'd get the same new in flux of members on list. Actually this is interestingly enough a point in favour of having a professional html magazine website similar to the websites for other webzines like spag. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Shaun, I think you are being way too overly pessimistic here. For one thing audio games are continually growing, and there are now more audio games on the market than ever before. When Michael Feir started the Audyssey Magazine it was basically restricted to Dos text based games and interactive fiction titles played with Frotz, Tads, etc. Now, in addition to many games like Swamp for the PC there are a number of accessible games for the iPhone, and there are a number of browser based games like Space Odyssey, Sryth, and Core Exiles that didn't exist back then. So things are looking up for audio games in general. As for the magazine itself admittedly things have fallen short over the last few years, but I don't think it would take a lot to get it up and running better than before. We have a web site, and right now what I have put up was meant to be a place holder rather than be a fully flashy webzine. I could do the work, but a lot depends on how flashy and commercial a look and feel you guys expect from the new site. I don't really think we need anything too fancy or flashy as that just seems like overkill to me seeing as most of our visitors are totally blind and the graphics, formatting, and so on important to sighted people don't really apply to most blind end users. Still, any thoughts or suggestions regarding improvements are welcome. Cheers! On 10/29/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: You have a point dark everyone that wants to be everyone has a central website. Its the seat of power and where they shout to the universe at large. Its never took off for us. How much resource would it take to write one or pay for an accessable one which is attractive to be written. We have a server I know maybe we need a bit more of those. That at least can be done. I have seen it with some radio stations with the blind as djs. Enough have been able to buy resource in form of datacentres and enough able to buy or create themselves the resources they need. Ofcause it goes a bit better if you get a few normals on your side ofcause. And get your name bandied round the place like so much crap. If audyssey was something a comman word associated with the blind heck why not make it other disabilities to, physical interlectual, etc maybe we may have power but its all relitive. I am quite sure that within a week or 2, we will get the dreadded notification to close the thread. Then nothing will happen for another year or 10 or 100. What scares me is that I fear a lot of the gaming is down to the first generation gamers. A lot of the newer ones well who knows. When we die, audyssey dies. We need more than us to handle it. In fact we really need someone that is not us to put new life into the mag something outside the core group. Ofcause we would have internal control over it, couldn't allow someone to go off and go nuts, even so we at least need to look attractive. not sure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, I agree. That does seem like a good idea. Something to try. Converting Audyssey over to a webzine like Spag is a good idea. It would take a while to build the site up to Audiogames.net quality, but it would draw people in because the list would be secondary and the majority of the primary information would be right there on the site for anyone to browse at his/her leisure. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Darren. while I appreciate the comments about the audiogames.net forum, as a correction, actually mailing list are very much still in use precisely because! people can now get E-mails on their iphones, tablets etc and don't! have to go about checking into forums and mucking about online but can just answer as things come in. While I agree I have noticed a lack of sighted members and general exposure on the audeasy list, I feel this is more due to lack of a serious website presense than anyting else, after all Audiogames.net is full of people who saw the website first and it is the site, not the forum that shows up on google. If audeasy had a similarly information filled website that would show up on search engines and could be read by people without need for list subscription, I imagine we'd get the same new in flux of members on list. Actually this is interestingly enough a point in favour of having a professional html magazine website similar to the websites for other webzines like spag. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] forum still down
Hi. forum still down for me. error Warning: mysql_connect() [function.mysql-connect]: User md11790db114463 already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections in /public/sites/stats.creativehero.es/write_logs.php on line 37 Can not connect to database in count.php: I can funnily enough connect to the main site. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well I can think of a blog though you are right about flashyness. We need a link page to liks for games. Right now, the easiest would to link the audiogames database pluss the pcs game lists, and any other devs we want to link to since there are established databases. Its about all we need, maybe some storage for the magazine in both html and text for offline reading as well as online. A podcast would be nice but still. At 07:01 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, I think you are being way too overly pessimistic here. For one thing audio games are continually growing, and there are now more audio games on the market than ever before. When Michael Feir started the Audyssey Magazine it was basically restricted to Dos text based games and interactive fiction titles played with Frotz, Tads, etc. Now, in addition to many games like Swamp for the PC there are a number of accessible games for the iPhone, and there are a number of browser based games like Space Odyssey, Sryth, and Core Exiles that didn't exist back then. So things are looking up for audio games in general. As for the magazine itself admittedly things have fallen short over the last few years, but I don't think it would take a lot to get it up and running better than before. We have a web site, and right now what I have put up was meant to be a place holder rather than be a fully flashy webzine. I could do the work, but a lot depends on how flashy and commercial a look and feel you guys expect from the new site. I don't really think we need anything too fancy or flashy as that just seems like overkill to me seeing as most of our visitors are totally blind and the graphics, formatting, and so on important to sighted people don't really apply to most blind end users. Still, any thoughts or suggestions regarding improvements are welcome. Cheers! On 10/29/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: You have a point dark everyone that wants to be everyone has a central website. Its the seat of power and where they shout to the universe at large. Its never took off for us. How much resource would it take to write one or pay for an accessable one which is attractive to be written. We have a server I know maybe we need a bit more of those. That at least can be done. I have seen it with some radio stations with the blind as djs. Enough have been able to buy resource in form of datacentres and enough able to buy or create themselves the resources they need. Ofcause it goes a bit better if you get a few normals on your side ofcause. And get your name bandied round the place like so much crap. If audyssey was something a comman word associated with the blind heck why not make it other disabilities to, physical interlectual, etc maybe we may have power but its all relitive. I am quite sure that within a week or 2, we will get the dreadded notification to close the thread. Then nothing will happen for another year or 10 or 100. What scares me is that I fear a lot of the gaming is down to the first generation gamers. A lot of the newer ones well who knows. When we die, audyssey dies. We need more than us to handle it. In fact we really need someone that is not us to put new life into the mag something outside the core group. Ofcause we would have internal control over it, couldn't allow someone to go off and go nuts, even so we at least need to look attractive. not sure. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Charles, This has nothing to do with forums verses lists. The fault of Audyssey not being widely circulated and/or publicized has more to do with its prior management. For years it was simply compiled and published via the mailing list, which worked, but now days as Dark pointed out there are far more ways to distribute a magazine. For one thing most electronic magazines are published on a website, and written up in HTML or another markup language with a professional look and feel. Audyssey has never taken this step and has mostly been redistributed in straight text which looks ugly and unprofessional in the eyes of mainstream readers. Plus besides having a web presents we have now entered the social media age where everyone is on Facebook, Twitter, etc and having a presents there would help get the word out about the magazine and could deliver daily news clips etc. The list will still be here, but I think what people are saying it is time for Audyssey to grow and get updated. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find forums confusing, while Email is straightforward. (Sent from my iPhone) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well I'd be happy to input if I could to the project of magazine reconstruction. At 07:17 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark, I agree. That does seem like a good idea. Something to try. Converting Audyssey over to a webzine like Spag is a good idea. It would take a while to build the site up to Audiogames.net quality, but it would draw people in because the list would be secondary and the majority of the primary information would be right there on the site for anyone to browse at his/her leisure. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Darren. while I appreciate the comments about the audiogames.net forum, as a correction, actually mailing list are very much still in use precisely because! people can now get E-mails on their iphones, tablets etc and don't! have to go about checking into forums and mucking about online but can just answer as things come in. While I agree I have noticed a lack of sighted members and general exposure on the audeasy list, I feel this is more due to lack of a serious website presense than anyting else, after all Audiogames.net is full of people who saw the website first and it is the site, not the forum that shows up on google. If audeasy had a similarly information filled website that would show up on search engines and could be read by people without need for list subscription, I imagine we'd get the same new in flux of members on list. Actually this is interestingly enough a point in favour of having a professional html magazine website similar to the websites for other webzines like spag. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Shaun, Well, any and all suggestions will be considered. Obviously do to cost or feasibility not every suggestion will be practical or possible, but as I have decided to spend some time on revamping the site and magazine I'll be taking notes over the next few days. On 10/29/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: well I'd be happy to input if I could to the project of magazine reconstruction. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. While I agree a flashy website with lots of multimedia shenanigans would be inappropriate for hosting the audeasy magazine, there are various rather simple things an audeasy site could do. One example is indexing. In the past the audeasy magazine was a great big long text document with everything shoved together. While having it viewable this way in html wouldn't be a bad thing for reading the different installments, at the same time it'd be nice to have various indexes and ways of sorting the information from past magazines so that for example, if a person was looking for a review of a given game or an article on a given subject they could go to a reviews or articels section of the site and get a list of links there that would directly funnel them via an in page link to the correct section of the magazine, (I could also add links to individual audeasy reviews of games to appropriate pages of the audiogames.net database too). While we're on the subject of articles, the site could also host some general articles about audio games and audiogaming to answer basic questions, indeed this is something I've mentioned before. For example a list of handy links to places of interest, mentions of landmark games in particular genres for particular platforms, a couple of basic notes on voice over or web access etc. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audiogames forum
Hi. traced the error. looks like one of the dtabase third party sites has issue went to stats.creativehero.es Can not connect to database in index.php[46]: User md11790db114463 already has more than 'max_user_connections' active connections So its not audiogames.net per say but one of its external resources. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Darren, Well, I do agree with you for the most part. Although, regarding a podcast I think that is something that should be considered as an addition to the magazine rather than an absolute replacement for the magazine. Not everyone can record a decent podcast, but everyone can write and submit an article, review, or news release for the magazine. However, I do think how it is delivered does need to change. For one thing for most of its existence there wasn't a dedicated website etc for Audyssey. The editor simply gathered together everything for that issue of the magazine and sent it out as a text file via the list. That was okay way back when, but times have changed. We now have a dedicated website and plenty of space to design a fully functional webzine written in HTML with links to articles, reviews, letters to the editor, and so forth. We can add professional formatting to the webzine so it is more user friendly for sighted readers. We can setup groups on social media sites like Facebook and Twitter with links to the magazine and/or news articles when they become available. In short, there is a lot we can do besides just mail it to the list and hope whoever reads it. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Darren Harris darren_g_har...@btinternet.com wrote: a podcast would be better because then you could for example demo certain games on the podcast and let the demo's speak for themselves. as dark pointed out and as i have said several times over the years audyssey faled to bring in more readers because of it's lack of exposure to the wider world. as for people who are off list, well forums are the way to go i really think this. mailing lists are so clunky in comparison to forums. most people these days don't want to be bombarded with emails. so you can pretty much guarantee that whilst the mag did offer quite a bit of content the list content that ended up on the mag would be of little interest. to be honest with you audiogames.net is doing a far better job than audyssey ever did. because audio games are a little more recognised than lets say games for the blind as a tag name, it's worked in our favour. we have some blind and some sighted people on there for example. it's slowly and surely increasing awareness i think, which the mag in it's old/currant format faled to do. because for the most part it was only list subscribers and a few mag only subs that actually got it. whereas audiogames.net appears on google and other places as well. it's reasonably well represented. if the mag did come back then some serious work would need to be done in order to give it exposure. it isn't acceptible to simply chuck it out there and hope someone happens to read it. Sent from my iPad --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues.
Hi. With all this talk on the magazine, I have looked at my collection and discovered that I don't have 51 through 54. Would someone please post these for me? I would like to have all issues. They are fun to go back and read and see how far we have come. Thanks. Darren. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] audiogames forum
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Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, Thanks. Those do seem like some good ideas. I guess the only question is content. I guess I can go through the past issues to look for reviews, articles, and so on and begin converting them into a database or at least an index with links to each article or review so they are easy to find. That would be preferable to reading several huge text files just to find one article or review. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. While I agree a flashy website with lots of multimedia shenanigans would be inappropriate for hosting the audeasy magazine, there are various rather simple things an audeasy site could do. One example is indexing. In the past the audeasy magazine was a great big long text document with everything shoved together. While having it viewable this way in html wouldn't be a bad thing for reading the different installments, at the same time it'd be nice to have various indexes and ways of sorting the information from past magazines so that for example, if a person was looking for a review of a given game or an article on a given subject they could go to a reviews or articels section of the site and get a list of links there that would directly funnel them via an in page link to the correct section of the magazine, (I could also add links to individual audeasy reviews of games to appropriate pages of the audiogames.net database too). While we're on the subject of articles, the site could also host some general articles about audio games and audiogaming to answer basic questions, indeed this is something I've mentioned before. For example a list of handy links to places of interest, mentions of landmark games in particular genres for particular platforms, a couple of basic notes on voice over or web access etc. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] forum
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Re: [Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues.
Hi Darren, Just go to audyssey.org and download issues 51 through 54. That's what they are up there for. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. With all this talk on the magazine, I have looked at my collection and discovered that I don't have 51 through 54. Would someone please post these for me? I would like to have all issues. They are fun to go back and read and see how far we have come. Thanks. Darren. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues.
Oh yeah! Lol! I forgot about the web site! Haven't been there in years! Thanks. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 3:04 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues. Hi Darren, Just go to audyssey.org and download issues 51 through 54. That's what they are up there for. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. With all this talk on the magazine, I have looked at my collection and discovered that I don't have 51 through 54. Would someone please post these for me? I would like to have all issues. They are fun to go back and read and see how far we have come. Thanks. Darren. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Spreading the word through tools available on the Web is a good idea. Any form that draws, go for it. I actually think it would be great to have sighted people subscribe to this list as well. Maybe game developers could find out about what's done by and for blind gamers and developers, and more game could become of it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles, This has nothing to do with forums verses lists. The fault of Audyssey not being widely circulated and/or publicized has more to do with its prior management. For years it was simply compiled and published via the mailing list, which worked, but now days as Dark pointed out there are far more ways to distribute a magazine. For one thing most electronic magazines are published on a website, and written up in HTML or another markup language with a professional look and feel. Audyssey has never taken this step and has mostly been redistributed in straight text which looks ugly and unprofessional in the eyes of mainstream readers. Plus besides having a web presents we have now entered the social media age where everyone is on Facebook, Twitter, etc and having a presents there would help get the word out about the magazine and could deliver daily news clips etc. The list will still be here, but I think what people are saying it is time for Audyssey to grow and get updated. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find forums confusing, while Email is straightforward. (Sent from my iPhone) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues.
I forgot about that being available, and I'll bet he did, too. Thanks for the reminder. I now have all 54 issues in a folder. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Missing some audyssey issues. Hi Darren, Just go to audyssey.org and download issues 51 through 54. That's what they are up there for. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Darren Duff duff...@gmail.com wrote: Hi. With all this talk on the magazine, I have looked at my collection and discovered that I don't have 51 through 54. Would someone please post these for me? I would like to have all issues. They are fun to go back and read and see how far we have come. Thanks. Darren. Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. I know html converting is a somewhat urcsome task, but that would! help, and btw, if you really! want to see a fantastic preservation of far more material that was originally sent out on floppy disks see the list of past eamon magazines the eamon guild site. Of course, I was equally thinking of new stuff. For example, lets say someone writes a review of Papasangre2, well it's likely the developers from somethinelse would like to read it. I've actually discussed this with Sander, adding a reviews section to the db for each game rather like the gamefaqs index has, but it'd unfortunately to quite an overhall of the existing php code that runs the audiogames.net db. So, maybe this is something that the audeasy magazine could contribute, indeed I'm always amazed with how vocal some people are about given games or subjects they're not willing to formally sit down and write something reasonable and structured and professional. Btw, and in case anyone was wondering, the audiogames.net db entries are not! reviews, they are informational pages intended to provide detail about a given game and it's good points. That's one reason it's in the db guidelines to never give negative comments on a db page, never compare one game to another and be at least planely descriptive if not actively positive. That's why even when the db uses the term symple it's meant purely descriptively and not as a cryticism. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Dark, Thanks. Those do seem like some good ideas. I guess the only question is content. I guess I can go through the past issues to look for reviews, articles, and so on and begin converting them into a database or at least an index with links to each article or review so they are easy to find. That would be preferable to reading several huge text files just to find one article or review. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. While I agree a flashy website with lots of multimedia shenanigans would be inappropriate for hosting the audeasy magazine, there are various rather simple things an audeasy site could do. One example is indexing. In the past the audeasy magazine was a great big long text document with everything shoved together. While having it viewable this way in html wouldn't be a bad thing for reading the different installments, at the same time it'd be nice to have various indexes and ways of sorting the information from past magazines so that for example, if a person was looking for a review of a given game or an article on a given subject they could go to a reviews or articels section of the site and get a list of links there that would directly funnel them via an in page link to the correct section of the magazine, (I could also add links to individual audeasy reviews of games to appropriate pages of the audiogames.net database too). While we're on the subject of articles, the site could also host some general articles about audio games and audiogaming to answer basic questions, indeed this is something I've mentioned before. For example a list of handy links to places of interest, mentions of landmark games in particular genres for particular platforms, a couple of basic notes on voice over or web access etc. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Well we really need to make the audio game format interesting. Not sure how we would do that. for some of my friends, the interactive fiction really makes them rock. they like old games. For some audio games cool. For others no graphics = crap rubbish and nothing much doing. audio games are crap because they have no graphics. I am not sure how to change that we can't vary well add graphics up the wazoo especially since the blind can't really afford the best stuff all the time. I have only just this year because of a breakage in my keyboard on this laptop brought a win7 system. And even so I find myself still using xp 90% of the time because of older games and the fact none of my major stuff is cpu or memmory intensive. Apart from the net, bgt testing eudora, and note pad the only program I really use is winamp which streams radio and other stuff when I am not doing much else apart from running mush z. My plan is to get a tablet maybe an iphone for family use and maybe later an android for my use or something like an iphone though who knows. At 08:34 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Spreading the word through tools available on the Web is a good idea. Any form that draws, go for it. I actually think it would be great to have sighted people subscribe to this list as well. Maybe game developers could find out about what's done by and for blind gamers and developers, and more game could become of it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 1:29 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles, This has nothing to do with forums verses lists. The fault of Audyssey not being widely circulated and/or publicized has more to do with its prior management. For years it was simply compiled and published via the mailing list, which worked, but now days as Dark pointed out there are far more ways to distribute a magazine. For one thing most electronic magazines are published on a website, and written up in HTML or another markup language with a professional look and feel. Audyssey has never taken this step and has mostly been redistributed in straight text which looks ugly and unprofessional in the eyes of mainstream readers. Plus besides having a web presents we have now entered the social media age where everyone is on Facebook, Twitter, etc and having a presents there would help get the word out about the magazine and could deliver daily news clips etc. The list will still be here, but I think what people are saying it is time for Audyssey to grow and get updated. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Whose fault was it that the magazine wasn't widely publicized? Reasons for why it has it's place in other places than forums have been explained in other posts. Opinions are different. I, for one, find the Email format to be the best. No need to hunt for what you're looking for. I find forums confusing, while Email is straightforward. (Sent from my iPhone) --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well thats good to know. it appears that the forums on audiogames.net eventually did come right for me. At 10:09 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. I know html converting is a somewhat urcsome task, but that would! help, and btw, if you really! want to see a fantastic preservation of far more material that was originally sent out on floppy disks see the list of past eamon magazines the eamon guild site. Of course, I was equally thinking of new stuff. For example, lets say someone writes a review of Papasangre2, well it's likely the developers from somethinelse would like to read it. I've actually discussed this with Sander, adding a reviews section to the db for each game rather like the gamefaqs index has, but it'd unfortunately to quite an overhall of the existing php code that runs the audiogames.net db. So, maybe this is something that the audeasy magazine could contribute, indeed I'm always amazed with how vocal some people are about given games or subjects they're not willing to formally sit down and write something reasonable and structured and professional. Btw, and in case anyone was wondering, the audiogames.net db entries are not! reviews, they are informational pages intended to provide detail about a given game and it's good points. That's one reason it's in the db guidelines to never give negative comments on a db page, never compare one game to another and be at least planely descriptive if not actively positive. That's why even when the db uses the term symple it's meant purely descriptively and not as a cryticism. Beware the Grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2013 6:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Dark, Thanks. Those do seem like some good ideas. I guess the only question is content. I guess I can go through the past issues to look for reviews, articles, and so on and begin converting them into a database or at least an index with links to each article or review so they are easy to find. That would be preferable to reading several huge text files just to find one article or review. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. While I agree a flashy website with lots of multimedia shenanigans would be inappropriate for hosting the audeasy magazine, there are various rather simple things an audeasy site could do. One example is indexing. In the past the audeasy magazine was a great big long text document with everything shoved together. While having it viewable this way in html wouldn't be a bad thing for reading the different installments, at the same time it'd be nice to have various indexes and ways of sorting the information from past magazines so that for example, if a person was looking for a review of a given game or an article on a given subject they could go to a reviews or articels section of the site and get a list of links there that would directly funnel them via an in page link to the correct section of the magazine, (I could also add links to individual audeasy reviews of games to appropriate pages of the audiogames.net database too). While we're on the subject of articles, the site could also host some general articles about audio games and audiogaming to answer basic questions, indeed this is something I've mentioned before. For example a list of handy links to places of interest, mentions of landmark games in particular genres for particular platforms, a couple of basic notes on voice over or web access etc. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hey all Let me first begin by saying that I discovered a copy of #55 just a day or two ago. Yes it was a combination of personal and computer issues that delayed publication of the issue. I'm still willing and able to be editor of the magazine and yes I agree some changes are certainly in order. For one thing in #55 I'd skip over the Dev section only because there's been numerous games which have been developed thus making the majority of the content irrelevant. I believe it would be better to recommend folks check out either audiogames or PCSGames listings for current titles. I'm open to any and all suggestions to revive the mag before anyone rants at me yes I'll admit to dropping the ball though only partly. Computer crashes are beyond my control but I could at least salvage the articles sent in for that issue and rework 55. I want to continue the mag and distribution is an area that needs some work definitely, again suggestions of organizations, websites, or whatever are welcome. I'd gladly work on that. Basically what I'm saying is let's be constructive about breathing some new energy in Audyssey. I love doing the job but need folks to help out to make it bigger and better. Whatever form that takes be it an article, a site that would be willing to have a link, etc. Let's look forward. Ron Schamerhorn Audyssey Editor --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well its good that you have appeared and are willing. This fact is why we need to have more than one editor. we also need a dropbox or something where all content is shared. if one guy gets sick or drops his hard drive on his foot breaking it and the drive we need to have backup. it would be good if there were at least 3 or 4 people that could have editing rights to take over if they needed to. At 11:38 AM 10/30/2013, you wrote: Hey all Let me first begin by saying that I discovered a copy of #55 just a day or two ago. Yes it was a combination of personal and computer issues that delayed publication of the issue. I'm still willing and able to be editor of the magazine and yes I agree some changes are certainly in order. For one thing in #55 I'd skip over the Dev section only because there's been numerous games which have been developed thus making the majority of the content irrelevant. I believe it would be better to recommend folks check out either audiogames or PCSGames listings for current titles. I'm open to any and all suggestions to revive the mag before anyone rants at me yes I'll admit to dropping the ball though only partly. Computer crashes are beyond my control but I could at least salvage the articles sent in for that issue and rework 55. I want to continue the mag and distribution is an area that needs some work definitely, again suggestions of organizations, websites, or whatever are welcome. I'd gladly work on that. Basically what I'm saying is let's be constructive about breathing some new energy in Audyssey. I love doing the job but need folks to help out to make it bigger and better. Whatever form that takes be it an article, a site that would be willing to have a link, etc. Let's look forward. Ron Schamerhorn Audyssey Editor --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Alter Aeon October 2013 Updates and Halloween Bash
Okay, coolness! Thanks Dentin. Looking forward to checking it out! On 10/26/13, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: Allison - head north out of Dragon Tooth, and as soon as you can go east, go east. That should put you at the entrance. Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com On Sat, Oct 26, 2013 at 3:52 AM, Allison P apocalypseof...@gmail.com wrote: Ee! Awesome! ^ Thanks Dentin. Hey, how do you get to that monastery of dreams place? It sounds cool. And i'm finally freaking level 30 now, so yeah. Heh. On 10/26/13, Dennis Towne s...@xirr.com wrote: It's about time for the yearly Halloween Havoc bash on Alter Aeon! We have events planned starting next thursday and covering the entire weekend. The event schedule will be posted in-game in the next few days. There's also been a lot of updates over the last few weeks: Command improvements and ease of use: - various improvements to auto-remove - the 'group' casting target now ignores filtered minions - add a 'fame' command to help re-find moved fame - add 'rescue minions' to help warriors manage minion armies - abort now stops eqset changing - more blind and visually impaired support improvements Updates to crafting and enchanting: - add new command 'enchant', for enchanting items - add several new weapon-specific enchantments - add two new general enchantments - it is now possible to find unique/random weapons - add search and display of potion recipes - updates to potion brewing and strengthening of brew focus General improvements: - the natural stat training limit has been raised to 26 - allow clans to set a minimum member rank for some clan functions - curse ward is now a normal, dispellable buff - enchanted handgear now works with unarmed combat Area and Content Updates: - The Monastery of Dreams has been updated and re-released on the island of Archais at level 29. There are several new quests, and the zone is much bigger than before. - The North Ralnoth Slums have also been updated and re-released at level 29, with new quests and bosses. - There are also three new high level areas on the mainland: the village of Xochitl and Castle Camelot at level 34 are fairly safe and should provide interesting quests to complete. The third area, the sunken temple of Magar, is an extremely dangerous high level group zone and should be approached with caution. Finally, the new Druid class is on schedule for release near the end of November. We hope to see everyone there for the release! Dennis Towne Alter Aeon MUD http://www.alteraeon.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Audyssey
Dear all, I am writing this to express my opinion about how Audyssey should change. It is quite true that people would not want constant emails. If people were to recieve constant emails (wich is the case as of late), it will eventually become cluttered. I think a podcast would be much more suitable for Audyssey. Experienced gamers could review audiogames and the people would be interested about it. This is because a podcast captures the sounds of an audiogame and may encourage people to play the game. It would be so much better than a written article. This is my opinion and I am sure that many people disagree with me. But whoever wrote that a podcast would be suitable for Audyssey obviously knows what people like. Thank you for reading, Steven --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Steven and all, I realize that probably a good many of you are in favor of some kind of a podcast. I'm not totally against the idea, but I foresee problems with it. For one thing a podcast would require extra server bandwidth, more storage space, and that would incur greater cost to keep the site up and running. Therefore in order to do this we would have to take donations on a regular basis to pay for the cost of operating the site and so forth. Another is technical quality from podcast to podcast. Now, I know this varies from person to person but I expect people who record podcasts to have fairly decent recording equipment so it is easy to clean up, edit, and post to the site. If I were the one reviewing podcast submissions and it were recorded on a $15 microphone with too much static or background noise I'd probably turn the submission down on the grounds it doesn't meet quality standards. Finally, not everyone can record a podcast. I myself have difficulties with my Jaw, making speaking very difficult, therefore I prefer to write what I have to say than try and speak clearly into a microphone. Obviously, that particular problem would not effect everyone, but I foresee others having problems with recording pod casts weather it is not having the right hardware or software, not being able to speak clearly, or something else. Bottom line, what I personally think is the best answer to this issue is to have both. We can still keep the magazine, update it a bit, turn it into a full online webzine or e-zine with articles, reviews, stories, and so forth. If people are determined to have a podcast perhaps we can try that as well, but it would be in addition to the magazine and would not be a replacement for it. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Esteban Argel earge...@gmail.com wrote: Dear all, I am writing this to express my opinion about how Audyssey should change. It is quite true that people would not want constant emails. If people were to recieve constant emails (wich is the case as of late), it will eventually become cluttered. I think a podcast would be much more suitable for Audyssey. Experienced gamers could review audiogames and the people would be interested about it. This is because a podcast captures the sounds of an audiogame and may encourage people to play the game. It would be so much better than a written article. This is my opinion and I am sure that many people disagree with me. But whoever wrote that a podcast would be suitable for Audyssey obviously knows what people like. Thank you for reading, Steven --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Charles, No offense I don't think many sited people would join this list. Mailing lists are for the most part a thing of the past in the minds of most people today. No one wants their email inboxes filled up with messages on topics they may or may not have any interest in. That's why I think we need to expand into other social media outlets such as have a Facebook or Twitter presence, or a blog. Those are the sorts of things that sighted people are drawn to because they can read the topics of interest to them, and don't have to get anywhere from 25 to 50 emails from this list in their inbox. Our target audience is changing and if we want to continue to be relevant we need to change with them. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Charles Rivard wee1s...@fidnet.com wrote: Spreading the word through tools available on the Web is a good idea. Any form that draws, go for it. I actually think it would be great to have sighted people subscribe to this list as well. Maybe game developers could find out about what's done by and for blind gamers and developers, and more game could become of it. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
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Hi Ron, If you'd be willing to collaborate on it you could send me what you have for issue 55 and I can begin converting it into HTML, and convert it into an online e-zine with links and so forth. I have some ideas where to take the magazine and perhaps you and I can work off list on it together to breath new life into the magazine. Cheers! On 10/29/13, Ron Schamerhorn blindwon...@cogeco.ca wrote: Hey all Let me first begin by saying that I discovered a copy of #55 just a day or two ago. Yes it was a combination of personal and computer issues that delayed publication of the issue. I'm still willing and able to be editor of the magazine and yes I agree some changes are certainly in order. For one thing in #55 I'd skip over the Dev section only because there's been numerous games which have been developed thus making the majority of the content irrelevant. I believe it would be better to recommend folks check out either audiogames or PCSGames listings for current titles. I'm open to any and all suggestions to revive the mag before anyone rants at me yes I'll admit to dropping the ball though only partly. Computer crashes are beyond my control but I could at least salvage the articles sent in for that issue and rework 55. I want to continue the mag and distribution is an area that needs some work definitely, again suggestions of organizations, websites, or whatever are welcome. I'd gladly work on that. Basically what I'm saying is let's be constructive about breathing some new energy in Audyssey. I love doing the job but need folks to help out to make it bigger and better. Whatever form that takes be it an article, a site that would be willing to have a link, etc. Let's look forward. Ron Schamerhorn Audyssey Editor --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Shaun, For some people the lack of graphics will always be a point of contention, but that does not mean everyone will feel that way. I think what we need here is a different strategy in marketing audio games. As someone said instead of advertising them as blind games we need to market them as games based on audio environments and emphasize they are audio games not blind games. To some that might be just semantics, but when dealing with the mainstream public advertising it that way could go a long way to increasing interest among non-blind gamers. Another thing that may help is developing more text based games. Yeah, I know that sounds like a step backwards, but text is and has always been the universal medium blind and sighted gamers share. Young gamers might think of text based games as boring, crappy, whatever, but people from the 80's and 90's still play text based games all the time. Interactive Fiction still has quite a large following, and there are still people who play roguelike roll playing games like Angbang, ADOM, and Nethack, etc. Text based games haven't gone away just have been moved to the background as newer 3d graphical games have become the in thing for allot of younger gamers. We could renew interest in text games by developing newer games that might be of interest to them. Cheers! On 10/29/13, shaun everiss sm.ever...@gmail.com wrote: Well we really need to make the audio game format interesting. Not sure how we would do that. for some of my friends, the interactive fiction really makes them rock. they like old games. For some audio games cool. For others no graphics = crap rubbish and nothing much doing. audio games are crap because they have no graphics. I am not sure how to change that we can't vary well add graphics up the wazoo especially since the blind can't really afford the best stuff all the time. I have only just this year because of a breakage in my keyboard on this laptop brought a win7 system. And even so I find myself still using xp 90% of the time because of older games and the fact none of my major stuff is cpu or memmory intensive. Apart from the net, bgt testing eudora, and note pad the only program I really use is winamp which streams radio and other stuff when I am not doing much else apart from running mush z. My plan is to get a tablet maybe an iphone for family use and maybe later an android for my use or something like an iphone though who knows. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, That is indeed where we at Audyssey can help. I have began writing a new outline for the Audyssey site, and my idea is to have a section for game articles, another one for reviews, another for walkthroughs, and so on. Basically, have plenty of content that may or may not be available on Audiogames.net. Cheers! On 10/29/13, dark d...@xgam.org wrote: Hi Tom. I know html converting is a somewhat urcsome task, but that would! help, and btw, if you really! want to see a fantastic preservation of far more material that was originally sent out on floppy disks see the list of past eamon magazines the eamon guild site. Of course, I was equally thinking of new stuff. For example, lets say someone writes a review of Papasangre2, well it's likely the developers from somethinelse would like to read it. I've actually discussed this with Sander, adding a reviews section to the db for each game rather like the gamefaqs index has, but it'd unfortunately to quite an overhall of the existing php code that runs the audiogames.net db. So, maybe this is something that the audeasy magazine could contribute, indeed I'm always amazed with how vocal some people are about given games or subjects they're not willing to formally sit down and write something reasonable and structured and professional. Btw, and in case anyone was wondering, the audiogames.net db entries are not! reviews, they are informational pages intended to provide detail about a given game and it's good points. That's one reason it's in the db guidelines to never give negative comments on a db page, never compare one game to another and be at least planely descriptive if not actively positive. That's why even when the db uses the term symple it's meant purely descriptively and not as a cryticism. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
