Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Tom, I'm going to touch on just one facet of your post, but I think it's a pretty major one. Quote: "to be honest I think what has happened here is that Apple got to the accessibility first. All the blind users ran out, purchased Apple iPhones, and now any time someone goes looking for a smartphone they say iPhone, iPhone, iPhone. However, now that Google is closing the gap, the accessibility is improving, people such as yourself already have an iPhone and refuse to switch or even follow changes in Android accessibility since it does not apply to you. Am I right?" End quote: In some cases you are absolutely right, but in others, it's a clear case of Talkback just plain not being as good as VoiceOver. This says nothing about Android versus iOS. That's beyond the scope of my point. I use an Android on a daily basis in my work. I'm required to make sure our sites and apps are accessible for both Android and iOS, so I'm required to be fluent in both systems. The bottom line is that, while Talkback is improving, it's nowhere near as polished as VoiceOver, and it won't be for some time. For example, VoiceOver has given users the ability to navigate by various HTML elements for several years. This feature was added to Talkback around a month ago, and it's still not as fluid or thorough as VoiceOver's navigation. Perhaps most telling, however, is the fact that all standard apps on iOS can be utilized by a VoiceOver user instantly, where the same cannot be said for Talkback users. iPhone users can navigate apple maps by touch and fully utilize the iOS camera app. VoiceOver will even tell the user when a face is centered and describe the taken picture in broad strokes. Talkback users, on the other hand, can't even use the built-in calendar. One could argue--and probably will--that you can just install a different file browser, a different calendar, a different whatever on Android if you want accessibility. But therein lies the crux of the issue--the reason why Apple still wins hands-down. On iOS, you don't *have* to do that to use it. It just works. I'm sure Google will catch up some day, and I'm very much looking forward to that day. I greatly appreciate their approach to open-source software, and I think they're an all-around more impressive company. Right now, though, it's not a case of blind people refusing to change; it's an issue of Talkback just not being there yet. Ryan --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
well,someone who has a perspective on both platform, as I have an Iphone 5, and a nexus7 tablet, I can definitely say, I have no issues with the android side of things, the accessibility has improved to where it has alost comes to completely match Voice over on the Iphone, and I too would love to see games for the android platform. On 11/8/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > This issue has come up recently on the audiogames forum, so I'll pass on the > > info I know. > > Stem stumper, several games from vipgameszone, all the choiceof games and a > > game called droid flip are the ones I know though there may be more. > > However, Ios still has the lion's share of games, and to be honest with very > > high quality titles like those from somethinelse and king of dragon pass I > can see why people go for the platform, indeed that was the chief reason I > got an Iphone myself but wasn't really that interested into looking over > Android as a platform since it just didn't have half as much to do that I > was interested in doing. > > One nastier thing is that there are games who's android versions aren't > accessible though their Iphone versions are, such as the storm8 games. I > don't know the ins and outs of why this happens, but it is a problem for > Android users. > > Beware the Grue! > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] phones - Re: Any Accessible Android Games
Those are not fully accessible. Unless things have changed, LG phones speak through the first few layers of their menus, then quit speaking. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "shaun everiss" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Well with things as they are people are pointing at the lg nexus phones. At 09:23 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Ah so there truly is no hope without an xp vm then. Ah well I will keep the game files and maybe one day play them again. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:16 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Sarah, The game is completely self-voicing. The captain of the submarine speaks the choices aloud as well as gives mission briefings, speaks the game's story aloud, and so on. Take my word for it the game is 100% accessible. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Sarah Haake wrote: > Hi, > > how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make > choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? > > Thanks for answering and best regards > Sarah > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house
IT is. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:24 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house Hmm, I may just have to try this game, hopefully it's free. sent from the braille plus loriduncan wrote: >Well, not sure about that, all I know is I can't seem to escape this >house at all. I get so far then I think I run into walls, and don't >know which way to turn to get out. The killer always finds me. :( >Dark, please may Iborrow your grue, or failing that your retriever dog? > >-Original Message- >From: shaun everiss >Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:37 AM >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house > >well lorry what about the dimentions game on Iphone. >I have always wandered how you could walk round in 2 worlds at once lol. > >At 04:49 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: >>Lol, I'll get some funny looks if I'm ever out in the street playing >>it, people will think me mad shouting into my phone. I wonder what >>the back story is, like who's the killer and how the player got in the >>house in the first place. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard >>Sent: >>Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: >>[Audyssey] Escape the house Turn Voice-Over off, and then blame Phil! >>Twice! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >>- Original Message - From: "loriduncan" >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: >>[Audyssey] Escape the house > Hi everyone, I downloaded Escape the >>House last night and started trying > to play it, but I’m not sure >>whether I should turn voice-over off or not. > Also, is there an audio >>demo of the game availible? I think it was a > mistake to start >>playing the game at midnight, ah well it was on Phil’s > list of >>horror games, so I know who to blame lol. From Lori. > --- > Gamers >>mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, >>send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make >>changes or update your subscription via the web, at > >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> > All messages are archived and can be searched >>and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> > If you have any questions or concerns >>regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to >>gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ >>Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >>subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages >>are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any >>questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please >>send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ >>Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >>subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages >>are archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any >>questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please >>send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Yeah maybe it doesn't run on 64 bit systoms. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of David Mehler Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:06 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi, I can confirm that silent steel does in fact work on 32 bit xp and I'd presume 32 bit 7 but I don't have it to test. Dave On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Nuts! It sounds like it would be a really fun game! > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. > > >> Hi Charles, >> >> Definitely not. Silent Steel was released in the mid 1990's for >> Windows 95. The game is almost 20 years old, and I doubt any stores >> would be selling the game now being that old. If you want it I figure >> you will have to get it used from Ebay or some game reseller. The >> only reason I have the game is that it came with my IBM Aptiva in 96 >> as part of its software bundle. >> >> Cheers! >> >> On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: >>> Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a >>> game. Is >>> >>> it >>> >>> no longer available? Thanks. >>> >>> --- >>> Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the >> list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi tom. This issue has come up recently on the audiogames forum, so I'll pass on the info I know. Stem stumper, several games from vipgameszone, all the choiceof games and a game called droid flip are the ones I know though there may be more. However, Ios still has the lion's share of games, and to be honest with very high quality titles like those from somethinelse and king of dragon pass I can see why people go for the platform, indeed that was the chief reason I got an Iphone myself but wasn't really that interested into looking over Android as a platform since it just didn't have half as much to do that I was interested in doing. One nastier thing is that there are games who's android versions aren't accessible though their Iphone versions are, such as the storm8 games. I don't know the ins and outs of why this happens, but it is a problem for Android users. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
well that may be why it works on my 32 bit os then. it was win 3.1 so is 16 bit. To be honest if lonewolf got some mods for it, a couple missions could be made for the game quite easily. At 08:18 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Darren, I haven't confirmed this, but I think Silent Steel was a 16-bit application. If so that would be the reason why it wouldn't work on my Windows 7 laptop. I have a 64-bit version of Windows, and that is not 16-bit backwards compatible. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Well if you haven't gotten it to work then it probably won't! lol! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
well its ok, you take part in deciding the way the moovie will go and what indexes of video will play in to responce to indexes of audio. At 09:01 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Nuts! It sounds like it would be a really fun game! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Charles, Definitely not. Silent Steel was released in the mid 1990's for Windows 95. The game is almost 20 years old, and I doubt any stores would be selling the game now being that old. If you want it I figure you will have to get it used from Ebay or some game reseller. The only reason I have the game is that it came with my IBM Aptiva in 96 as part of its software bundle. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a game. Is it no longer available? Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
thats what my other conflict is. the droids sertainly are cheaper but you get less than the iphone. At 09:33 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: In my opinion, there are more blind friendly apps for the iDevices than for Androids. At least, this is what a whole slew of people have been saying. I started with an iPhone, and won't switch for this reason. I think that you get what you pay for, and if you can afford the iDevice, get it. There is an article at www.applevis.com about one user's experiences with both types of devices, and why the author of the article went from an iPhone to an Android, then back to the iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Well with things as they are people are pointing at the lg nexus phones. At 09:23 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
well the videos are cinimatics. the voice for all options will work if you push up down and enter. At 08:00 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi, how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? Thanks for answering and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
no charles. Compaired to lonwolf its quite basic. A video file and an audio file. each disk has these pluss a data file with its id and number. Each bit or audio or video has an index and then its matching the dots to the indexes. At 08:16 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Is it anything like Lone Wolf? Just curious. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Lindsay, Silent Steel is an old submarine game written for Windows 95. Interesting enough it was one of the few mainstream games that is fullyaccessible to the blind either through accident or design. Cheers! On 11/8/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: What is silent steel? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
well it needs a sertain codec tom. vfw something or rather. I have the klite mega codec pack which is supposed to have it but the cd for silent steel has that old codec so maybe if you installed it that would make it work. Hmm just tried it on 7 32 bit and it does work. go to www.codecguide.com download and install the mega codec with defaults and say no thanks to all the toolbars and you will be able to handle it. At 07:52 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Darren, Sadly, I have had no luck getting Silent Steel to run under Windows 7 myself. I don't know precisely what the problem is, but I have not had any luck with it yet either. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has > anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! > > > Darren Duff. > amateur radio station KK4AHX. > > Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. > > friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. > > Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 > > primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com > > Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com > > MSN darren...@hotmail.com > > skype duffman31279 > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
its an old submareen game written on windows 3.11, based round I think the cold war. From what I read the sub is nuclear and it was set in the 1960s, however, not much more. You basically have to sink 2 subs, capture and deal with a traterous officer and a few things. The plot is not much, and you can not really go wrong though if you do go wrong there is a 100% chance you can die or die soon after. If you do some things wrongly you will die later on. Its a classic but replay wise there is only so much you can do. You can't buy this anymore. You may be able to get it on ebay or something or well you may have to download it from a torrent or something. Though to be honest the only thing securing it was where things were located if you knew how to move files then you could be ok. At 05:43 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: What is silent steel? -original message- Subject: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. From: "Darren Duff" Date: 08/11/2013 4:41 pm Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
what is the error. if its about the drivers, don't worry thats not important. from each disk you need to copy to your isteel folder, all idx data. all avi or mpg video. all wav data all wav idx data. all id files. the setup is needed to make the game.cfg. you in addition need the composer.lg file and all disk.* files 1-4 glossery.txt the help.hlp file you will also need the ms help viewer update to get this the easiest way is to go to www.mush-z.com or www.blindsoftware.com and download and run the right msu file depending on what your system type x86 or x64 is. you will need the panic.ssg file and the readme file if you want to the cfg file is called TSAGEWIN.CFG avivideo can also be mpegvideo. here is a sample I will put the sample below, and tell you what all the lines are DM = 0 This line is for demos. it can be 1 or 0 1 will play a demo I assume at one point there was a demo. It plays the first part of the game only though I am not sure what the significance is now. HASDIGI = true PLAYER_SPEECH= on these 2 lines are for sfx and speech. Most of the sfx is in the videos and the digital line and speech lines are for sound only. They don't work because the setup is looking for old versions of mciavi and mciwave but can't find them because they are not win 3.1 files though the game will work without them. VOLVIDEO = 1000 video volume, leave alone. VIDEXT = AVI AVITYPE = AVIVideo this aparently is for the video file type. that can be mpeg or avi aparently though I have not seen the mpeg version so that version may be newer. FAMILY = FALSE If you have kids you may want to make that true. PATH = c:\ISTEEL\ game path ROLLING_SAVE = PANIC This looks to be what the save for sertain things is as the game goes. you can replay entire games to and sequences. CD = c:\ISTEEL\ AVI = c:\ISTEEL\ the next 2 lines are for the location of video files and the cd. SCALING = OFF I never used this but it probably has to do with mono or small screens or something SUBTITLES= OFF This thing had other languages though I never found them. for its time it was good, but it was just game iindexes and video files. for its time it was quite good. At 05:40 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
well I did not know that but I have not touched that game in some years though I still have it. At 04:50 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Lol sean no, I've not heard of pork at all, it sounds amusing indeed! I think the best grue parody I saw in an if game was the game augmented forth. If you wandered around in the dark (which you had to actually do a little at the start of the game), you were told "It's pitch dark, but don't worry, you are in no danger of being tripped over by a trubblesome marsupial!" If you spent too long in the dark (about 10 turns or so), you got a message along the lines of "suddenly you find yourself falling over and cracking your head on the floor while behind you a little insectivore laughs a synister laugh, never trust a marsupial!" :D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Sarah, No problem. Glad I could help. I'm actually a bit surprised so many people hadn't heard of the game, but then again it was around before the Audyssey Magazine and Audyssey List got started so I suspect very few blind gamers heard of it when it was new, and are just now hearing about it nearly twenty years after the fact. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Sarah Haake wrote: > Hi, > > thanks for the info how the game works. > > Thomas, it was not that I didn't believe you, I just was curious how the > game worked since I never heard of it. > > Best regards > Sarah > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Charles, That's for sure. Smartphone access has improved all across the board, and now days it is likely a blind customer can walk into any store and purchase an accessible smartphone from just about any manufacturer. Apple's iOS is accessible, most Android phones running Google Android 4.0 or better is more or less accessible, and of course the Windows smartphones running Windows 8 aren't too bad with Narrator. So right there we have a pretty wide choice when it comes to reasonably accessible phones and platforms to develop software for. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Yes, you are right. The way I see it, the more accessible all phones get, > the better. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Yes, you are right. The way I see it, the more accessible all phones get, the better. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:45 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Hi Charles, Yes, I have heard that too, but my personal experience with testing the Android devices hands on is that accessibility is very good now. There is very little that I could not do on the Android phone that I could do on an iPhone. Keep in mind here that accessibility on Android is constantly improving with each version so negative feedback may be out of date or based on an older version of Talkback and Android OS. Both factors are something to be considered here when recommending to a new user which is better. Plus my concerns are not strictly accessibility related. I was impressed with the Android when I could set it up to single tap on icons and have it bring up an app rather than double tap. That is an end user preference thing which I did not see in iOS. I also noticed that Google Talk back gestures are completely customizable where I couldn't find where to change them in VoiceOver. These are just a few things based on my limited experience where Android seemed better suited to my preferences in terms of being customized. The other issue here is that I am not just your every day ordinary end user. I am a power user with considerable programming skills and I plan to write software for my phone. For a power user and developer the Android is the superior choice because it is largely open source, uses standard languages and technologies like Java, and there is no fees to develop for the platform. I can use a Standard Java JDK with the Eclipse IDE for Linux or Windows to develop apps and games for the Android platform. Apple iOS is totally not free and much more difficult to develop for. To develop for an iPhone I'd have to run out and slap down $1500 for a Macbook, get and install XCode, and buy the iOS SDK on top of that. None of this considers the fact that the Apple iOS platform does not use standard APIs and languages requiring that I learn Object C and any iOS specific APIs. Bottom line, I'm looking at well over $2000 invested in the phone and the hardware and software to develop games and apps for it where Android only requires a phone. In short, I don't care how good accessibility is on an iPhone it is not worth $2000 or more to develop software for it. The access on Android is good enough for my needs and I can develop software for it for a fraction of the cost. to be honest I think what has happened here is that Apple got to the accessibility first. All the blind users ran out, purchased Apple iPhones, and now any time someone goes looking for a smartphone they say iPhone, iPhone, iPhone. However, now that Google is closing the gap, the accessibility is improving, people such as yourself already have an iPhone and refuse to switch or even follow changes in Android accessibility since it does not apply to you. Am I right? Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, there are more blind friendly apps for the iDevices than for Androids. At least, this is what a whole slew of people have been saying. I started with an iPhone, and won't switch for this reason. I think that you get what you pay for, and if you can afford the iDevice, get it. There is an article at www.applevis.com about one user's experiences with both types of devices, and why the author of the article went from an iPhone to an Android, then back to the iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
well its why I still use my xp laptop for gaming. Most of the old vb6 games do not work right on 7. The newer ones do thank goodness. At 02:49 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Dark, Yeah, I agree with you. I don't have a problem with Azabat producing card, puzzle, and board games. As I recall they were one of the first to come out with an accessible Drafts game. What always got on my wick is the way they implemented their games by running them directly from the CD. For one thing the Azabat games are very small, and most people today have at least a 100 GB drive or larger so its not like space should be a major concern. Most of Azabat's customers are likely to own some screen reader weather it be Jaws, Supernova, Window-Eyes, or something free like NVDA. Anyone who has used a computer for a while should be able to install and run the game from the Start Menu like any other program. If finding icons is a concern on XP, Vista, and Windows 7 an icon can be placed on the desktop for convenience, and it can be pinned to the taskbar in Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Either way finding and launching the game is not very complicated. Azabat is over simplifying something that just does not need to be that simple. The other issue is more a concern than a complaint. Azabat like so many audio game developers has chosen the Visual Basic 6 route, and now is facing serious problems with Windows 8 and 8.1. There is absolutely no native Visual Basic 6 support in Windows 8.x so if someone goes out and buys a new Toshiba, HP, or similar laptop the Azabat games aren't going to work unless someone helps them install all the missing components. Even then I've noticed some older games tend to crash or fail to work correctly on Windows 8 and 8.1. So Azabat is selling people on out dated technology, and I do not know when or if they are going to correct those issues. Cheers! On 11/7/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > Even in the Uk, though the attitude of the rnib is held by some > organizations, there are some who are better. People may remember a few > years ago the organization Guide dogs organization I've always been a major > > fan of for their generalized good attitude and habbit of pushing people to > try and achieve things, albeit accessible computer games are sort of out of > > their perview. On the other hand, Action for blind people ran an audio games > > contest as part of their accessible technology blog, and when i wanted to > test out an Iphone there was someone from the technology section of the > local society who was quite happy to come and do a demonstration for me. > > It's generally a matter of finding the good ones and going with them, though > > I confess the prevailance of the rnib, the fact that when the Uk government > > or health service newly diagnoses someone as blind that! is who they are > sent to does somewhat get on my whick. > > Indeed, last time I went for an appointment with an optomatrist (as I do > from time to time to check my eye pressure, remaining vision and > medication), I noticed a man and his wife sitting behind me discussing > talking watches in rather worried tones. Since they were uncertain about > watches and asked about the one I was actually wearing I broke the ice and > asked if they'd like a look. > > I actually felt rather sorry for this couple since the lady had recently > gone blind, was in her late 50's but had lived a highly active life, going > on major camping trips around europe, cycling and the like, and had pretty > much been told she'd now have to stop. > > Indeed, she was a little amazed when she heard I lived on my own, and even > more so when I explained I was at university finishing a doctorate since it > > just hadn't been explained to her that someone without vision could do those > > sorts of things. > > While that didn't relate explicitly to games (this lady was obviously not > really interested in such), it does sort of show the mentality. > > In particular one thing that annoys me slightly about Aadvertising zabat's > is their major insistance on "running straight from the cd!" as a major > factor, as if running a program from a program shortcut such as one of the > spoonbill games, pontes backgammon or Jim kitchins is beyond people, > heck, even if you were dealing with an absolute computer novice it'd hardly > > be difficult to setup a shortcut key so all a person would have to do is > press say control alt 1 to run the game. > > My mum is a complete computer novice, (she struggles with sending e-mail or > > basically managing files on her machine), yet once I'd installed Bg Sudocue > > for her (her being a big Sudocue fan), she's got no problems running it from > > the programs menue. > > I certainly have no problem with people producing card, word, puzzle or > other traditional games, there are people who enjoy such things and the fact > > that they now come with innumerable peaces of technology (even my parents > new sky plus Tv box came wi
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Yeah as games get bigger and bigger I can see the reason. I have several games given to me which are 1 or 2 gb in size loaded on my drive. And I have the old silent steel which I loaded on drive and made the cfg file run it all from the drive which is 2gb. So having 20 gb of installed game on my drive um maybe not. My friend that does play games often loads some games plays them and has to delete and load others because of the size. At 02:30 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi Shaun, Well, these days most newer games come on DVD not CD, and the really high-end games for Play Station III etc come on blue ray discs. There are many good reasons why companies do this. Besides being able to use it as a type of copy protection, forcing people to physically own the media, with the size of many games to day it is better that the contents of the game remain on the DVD or blue ray disc than your hard drive. Perhaps you don't realize this but many mainstream commercial games are usually between 2 GB and 4 GB in size, and the really high-end ones can be 20 GB or more. With that amount of data it would easily fill up a good sized hard drive in no time at all. To give you an idea of what kind of sizes we are talking about the laptop I am using has a 300 GB drive in it. Now that drive is plenty for most of my needs, but if I started installing commercial games on it about 4 GB in size I'd quickly end up using most of that space on games. If I had 25 games that is 100 GB spent on games alone. Plus the more stuff a person stores on their boot drive the slower the operating system will run, and as a performance fanatic I'd go nuts having my OS dragging down to a snails crawl because I had x number of games on it. Cheers! On 11/8/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Dark sadly I know a lot of sighted games that still run from the cd > or need the cd for varification when run so I think while a lot don't > that this seems to be an industry practice rather than a minority one. > I don't care for this either. > it puts extra ware on the drive and disks, and for a lot of programs > that do it, it is not usually needed unless some files are not > installed on the system. > Silent steel does this but you can get round it easily enough. > I have known friends that have brought games. > That they have cracked just to avoid running off the cd, because they > hate it so much. > I still know modern games that still need the cd. > I do think this is being abused to much. > In the old days 1995 and earlier I realise why that was but with all > the power we have now we shouldn't need to run off a disk or > anything like that at all, there is no real excuse. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pg13 casts
cool thanks. At 02:25 AM 11/9/2013, you wrote: Hi. I don't have a internet radio station but I do have a team talk server and all are welcome. Find it at nighthawk-service.net ports 10334. If you do join the server I might not be there so the best way to let me know you are there to chat is to follow me on twitter @blinddrummer and message me to let me know you are on. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:56 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] pg13 casts Hi darrin. Your podcast really kick but. Often I play games to win but you just play games to win but to also loose whatever. I like how you do it all. The casts also mentioned a stream. Do you have a net radio station, where do you go to do it, how do I get notified for streams and when do you broadcast. I am gmt+12 hours, but if its in the right time for me, my morning or afternoon for example or late at night before midnight my time then I will make all effort to listen in and if you do have a teamtalk you use I may even jump on and join you. I myself do a cohosting role on another station for one show and when time allows I do enjoy it. I really enjoyed your playthroughs and comments on papa 1 2 and the night jar. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
ok, I won't be breaking into your house then, I don't want to end up lunch. At 11:56 PM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Tom. Well I don't have a grue for a pet, at least not one I'd admit to, you need a license you know. I do however have a Reever! currently sitting on my feet. which, if you seen the series Firefly you know are scary space zombies! or indeed in the maze runner books they're evil glowing giant scorpians, or indeed in Space Odyssey their psychotic robots! Either way they are pretty scary! Oh, and btw, no this isn't a joke, my dog is actually called Reever! it was rather amusing to end up with a dog who's name has such a distinguished sf history, albeit she is actually not that scary (about as far from scary as you could get). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
hmmm never thought of dark having a grue. But if you do look at the audiogames news section he does mention he has slaves, elf slaves, and cyber security guards and a few other monsters in his dongeon. So a grue for a fella such as that probably is no brainer. Instead of a dog he has a grue. Hmmm have a beware of the grue sign on your fence. um. At 10:33 PM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Hi Charles, Nope. Dark is not a Grue, but sometimes I wonder about him. He must have one for a pet. :D As for encountering Grues in the original Zork games you only encountered one when you entered a dark room or area without a light. If you were the type of adventurer that carried a light with you everywhere you went you probably never were in the dark long enough to encounter one. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > And all this time, I thought the Grue was Dark? (ornery grin) I have > played the infocom games a little, but didn't remember that creature. > Somewhere around here, I have the original CD that I bought from GMA Games > that included one of, if not the first, versions of SOD and LW, as well as a > > set of text adventure games along with appropriate interpreters. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi, thanks for the info how the game works. Thomas, it was not that I didn't believe you, I just was curious how the game worked since I never heard of it. Best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Charles, It was good for the time, but to be honest I think in many ways Lone Wolf is slightly better. As I recall Silent Steel was turn based where Lone Wolf is obviously real time. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Nuts! It sounds like it would be a really fun game! > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hi Charles, Yes, I have heard that too, but my personal experience with testing the Android devices hands on is that accessibility is very good now. There is very little that I could not do on the Android phone that I could do on an iPhone. Keep in mind here that accessibility on Android is constantly improving with each version so negative feedback may be out of date or based on an older version of Talkback and Android OS. Both factors are something to be considered here when recommending to a new user which is better. Plus my concerns are not strictly accessibility related. I was impressed with the Android when I could set it up to single tap on icons and have it bring up an app rather than double tap. That is an end user preference thing which I did not see in iOS. I also noticed that Google Talk back gestures are completely customizable where I couldn't find where to change them in VoiceOver. These are just a few things based on my limited experience where Android seemed better suited to my preferences in terms of being customized. The other issue here is that I am not just your every day ordinary end user. I am a power user with considerable programming skills and I plan to write software for my phone. For a power user and developer the Android is the superior choice because it is largely open source, uses standard languages and technologies like Java, and there is no fees to develop for the platform. I can use a Standard Java JDK with the Eclipse IDE for Linux or Windows to develop apps and games for the Android platform. Apple iOS is totally not free and much more difficult to develop for. To develop for an iPhone I'd have to run out and slap down $1500 for a Macbook, get and install XCode, and buy the iOS SDK on top of that. None of this considers the fact that the Apple iOS platform does not use standard APIs and languages requiring that I learn Object C and any iOS specific APIs. Bottom line, I'm looking at well over $2000 invested in the phone and the hardware and software to develop games and apps for it where Android only requires a phone. In short, I don't care how good accessibility is on an iPhone it is not worth $2000 or more to develop software for it. The access on Android is good enough for my needs and I can develop software for it for a fraction of the cost. to be honest I think what has happened here is that Apple got to the accessibility first. All the blind users ran out, purchased Apple iPhones, and now any time someone goes looking for a smartphone they say iPhone, iPhone, iPhone. However, now that Google is closing the gap, the accessibility is improving, people such as yourself already have an iPhone and refuse to switch or even follow changes in Android accessibility since it does not apply to you. Am I right? Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > In my opinion, there are more blind friendly apps for the iDevices than for > > Androids. At least, this is what a whole slew of people have been saying. > I started with an iPhone, and won't switch for this reason. I think that > you get what you pay for, and if you can afford the iDevice, get it. > > There is an article at > > www.applevis.com > > about one user's experiences with both types of devices, and why the author > > of the article went from an iPhone to an Android, then back to the iPhone. > > > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
there is also txtfl football game. sent from my windows 7 laptop On 11/8/2013 3:33 PM, Charles Rivard wrote: In my opinion, there are more blind friendly apps for the iDevices than for Androids. At least, this is what a whole slew of people have been saying. I started with an iPhone, and won't switch for this reason. I think that you get what you pay for, and if you can afford the iDevice, get it. There is an article at www.applevis.com about one user's experiences with both types of devices, and why the author of the article went from an iPhone to an Android, then back to the iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house
It is free!!! :) -Original Message- From: Devin Prater Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 8:23 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house Hmm, I may just have to try this game, hopefully it's free. sent from the braille plus loriduncan wrote: Well, not sure about that, all I know is I can't seem to escape this house at all. I get so far then I think I run into walls, and don't know which way to turn to get out. The killer always finds me. :( Dark, please may Iborrow your grue, or failing that your retriever dog? -Original Message- From: shaun everiss Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house well lorry what about the dimentions game on Iphone. I have always wandered how you could walk round in 2 worlds at once lol. At 04:49 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Lol, I'll get some funny looks if I'm ever out in the street playing it, people will think me mad shouting into my phone. I wonder what the back story is, like who's the killer and how the player got in the house in the first place. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house Turn Voice-Over off, and then blame Phil! Twice! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "loriduncan" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Escape the house > Hi everyone, I downloaded Escape the House last night and started trying > to play it, but I’m not sure whether I should turn voice-over off or not. > Also, is there an audio demo of the game availible? I think it was a > mistake to start playing the game at midnight, ah well it was on Phil’s > list of horror games, so I know who to blame lol. From Lori. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription vi
Re: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
In my opinion, there are more blind friendly apps for the iDevices than for Androids. At least, this is what a whole slew of people have been saying. I started with an iPhone, and won't switch for this reason. I think that you get what you pay for, and if you can afford the iDevice, get it. There is an article at www.applevis.com about one user's experiences with both types of devices, and why the author of the article went from an iPhone to an Android, then back to the iPhone. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:23 PM Subject: [Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Any Accessible Android Games
Hello everyone, I've been comparing an Apple iPhone with a Samsung Galaxy, and so far I think in many ways I personally prefer the Galaxy S4 over the Apple iPhone 5. It has a bigger touch screen, I liked the way the icons were arranged, the user interface was nicer in some ways, and I felt Android 4.2 has nearly the same accessibility with Talkback as iOS and VoiceOver. There were a few things where VoiceOver was a tad bit better in terms of accessibility, but it was not worth the higher price tag in my opinion. However, to get to the point before I buy an Android phone I want to know what if any accessible games are available for the platform? I believe there was a game called Stem Stumper and I think there was one called Lockpick or something like that. Is that all there is or is there a growing market of accessible games for Android I don't know about? I am aware that the blind and low vision community as a whole is pretty much madly in love with Apple iOS right now, but there has to be some accessible games available for Android. If not I figure USA Games will have to set to work making some to rectify that problem. :D --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house
Hmm, I may just have to try this game, hopefully it's free. sent from the braille plus loriduncan wrote: >Well, not sure about that, all I know is I can't seem to escape this house >at all. I get so far then I think I run into walls, and don't know which >way to turn to get out. The killer always finds me. :( Dark, please may >Iborrow your grue, or failing that your retriever dog? > >-Original Message- >From: shaun everiss >Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:37 AM >To: Gamers Discussion list >Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house > >well lorry what about the dimentions game on Iphone. >I have always wandered how you could walk round in 2 worlds at once lol. > >At 04:49 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: >>Lol, I'll get some funny looks if I'm ever out in the street playing it, >>people will think me mad shouting into my phone. I wonder what the back >>story is, like who's the killer and how the player got in the house in the >>first place. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: >>Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: >>[Audyssey] Escape the house Turn Voice-Over off, and then blame Phil! >>Twice! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close >>second. - >>Original Message - From: "loriduncan" To: >> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: >>[Audyssey] Escape the house > Hi everyone, I downloaded Escape the House >>last night and started trying > to play it, but I’m not sure whether I >>should turn voice-over off or not. > Also, is there an audio demo of the >>game availible? I think it was a > mistake to start playing the game at >>midnight, ah well it was on Phil’s > list of horror games, so I know who >>to blame lol. From Lori. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ >>Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your >>subscription via the web, at > >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> > All messages are archived and can be searched >>and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> > If you have any questions or concerns >>regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to >>gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- >>Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, >>send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or >>update your subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are >>archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions >>or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to >>gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your >>subscription via the web, at >>http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are >>archived and can be searched and read at >>http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions >>or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to >>gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > >--- >Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, >please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house
Well, not sure about that, all I know is I can't seem to escape this house at all. I get so far then I think I run into walls, and don't know which way to turn to get out. The killer always finds me. :( Dark, please may Iborrow your grue, or failing that your retriever dog? -Original Message- From: shaun everiss Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 6:37 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house well lorry what about the dimentions game on Iphone. I have always wandered how you could walk round in 2 worlds at once lol. At 04:49 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Lol, I'll get some funny looks if I'm ever out in the street playing it, people will think me mad shouting into my phone. I wonder what the back story is, like who's the killer and how the player got in the house in the first place. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house Turn Voice-Over off, and then blame Phil! Twice! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "loriduncan" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Escape the house > Hi everyone, I downloaded Escape the House last night and started trying > to play it, but I’m not sure whether I should turn voice-over off or not. > Also, is there an audio demo of the game availible? I think it was a > mistake to start playing the game at midnight, ah well it was on Phil’s > list of horror games, so I know who to blame lol. From Lori. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi, I can confirm that silent steel does in fact work on 32 bit xp and I'd presume 32 bit 7 but I don't have it to test. Dave On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Nuts! It sounds like it would be a really fun game! > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. > - Original Message - > From: "Thomas Ward" > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:30 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. > > >> Hi Charles, >> >> Definitely not. Silent Steel was released in the mid 1990's for >> Windows 95. The game is almost 20 years old, and I doubt any stores >> would be selling the game now being that old. If you want it I figure >> you will have to get it used from Ebay or some game reseller. The only >> reason I have the game is that it came with my IBM Aptiva in 96 as >> part of its software bundle. >> >> Cheers! >> >> On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: >>> Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a game. Is >>> >>> it >>> >>> no longer available? Thanks. >>> >>> --- >>> Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Nuts! It sounds like it would be a really fun game! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Charles, Definitely not. Silent Steel was released in the mid 1990's for Windows 95. The game is almost 20 years old, and I doubt any stores would be selling the game now being that old. If you want it I figure you will have to get it used from Ebay or some game reseller. The only reason I have the game is that it came with my IBM Aptiva in 96 as part of its software bundle. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a game. Is it no longer available? Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Charles, Definitely not. Silent Steel was released in the mid 1990's for Windows 95. The game is almost 20 years old, and I doubt any stores would be selling the game now being that old. If you want it I figure you will have to get it used from Ebay or some game reseller. The only reason I have the game is that it came with my IBM Aptiva in 96 as part of its software bundle. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a game. Is it > > no longer available? Thanks. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Charles, No. Totally different from Lone Wolf. For one thing Silent Steel is set in the modern day, I'd say around the early 1980's, and it is a story where a U.S. Submarine is out on a training mission when they encounter some Soviet ships and submarines. As the story unfolds what starts out as an ordinary training mission ends up becoming a war between the United States and the U.S.S.R. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Is it anything like Lone Wolf? Just curious. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Darren, I haven't confirmed this, but I think Silent Steel was a 16-bit application. If so that would be the reason why it wouldn't work on my Windows 7 laptop. I have a 64-bit version of Windows, and that is not 16-bit backwards compatible. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Well if you haven't gotten it to work then it probably won't! lol! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Tom: I noticed that you said, in another post, that it was?? a game. Is it no longer available? Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:16 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Sarah, The game is completely self-voicing. The captain of the submarine speaks the choices aloud as well as gives mission briefings, speaks the game's story aloud, and so on. Take my word for it the game is 100% accessible. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Sarah Haake wrote: Hi, how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? Thanks for answering and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Is it anything like Lone Wolf? Just curious. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: ; "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 12:55 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Lindsay, Silent Steel is an old submarine game written for Windows 95. Interesting enough it was one of the few mainstream games that is fullyaccessible to the blind either through accident or design. Cheers! On 11/8/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: What is silent steel? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Sarah, The game is completely self-voicing. The captain of the submarine speaks the choices aloud as well as gives mission briefings, speaks the game's story aloud, and so on. Take my word for it the game is 100% accessible. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Sarah Haake wrote: > Hi, > > how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make > choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? > > Thanks for answering and best regards > Sarah > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, Yes, exactly. It is the high definition cut scenes, 3d graphics, etc that accounts for 90% of the size of modern games. The sounds and music is certainly a factor, but not as much as the graphics. To give you an example I was looking at Star Wars Battle Front, that is a game from a few years back, and about 1 GB of the Play Station disc was sounds and music. The rest of the disc was videos, graphics, and so on. If you use that as an average say one or two GB is sounds and music just yanking the graphics out cuts a game in half if not more. Cheers! On 11/8/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Your very right about games, however bare in mind what takes up a huge > amount of space is graphics! especially the hyper complex, performance heavy > > 3D nonsense that most games have nowadays, just look at the relative size of > > audio and visual files. > > Of course, we've not had a complete commercial audio game with as complex a > > mechanic as most mainstream offerings, but I'd be willing to be just cutting > > out the graphics would reduce the size by at least half, if not more. > As one example, if I remember Rightly King of Dragon pass, which is about > mechanically as complex a game as you will find, is I believe about 140 mb, > > and even that! has significant amounts of still pictures and images. > > Papasangre 2 which has amazingly rich audio landscape is I believe around 60 > > mb. Of course, we haven't seen an audio game with the complexity of > something like dark souls, skyrim etc, so it's not quite possible to say, > but still just based on what I know of data and programming I'm pretty sure > > the requirements are wy smaller. > > This indeed might be another reason audio games are taking off on hand held > > platforms, since even with a 64 gb Iphone your still very limited in space. > > BEware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Well if you haven't gotten it to work then it probably won't! lol! -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Thomas Ward Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 1:52 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi Darren, Sadly, I have had no luck getting Silent Steel to run under Windows 7 myself. I don't know precisely what the problem is, but I have not had any luck with it yet either. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. > Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! > > > Darren Duff. > amateur radio station KK4AHX. > > Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. > > friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. > > Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 > > primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com > > Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com > > MSN darren...@hotmail.com > > skype duffman31279 > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the > list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Either your screen reader can read the dialogs with the choices or the capton will read them if you have the game set up right. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Sarah Haake Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 2:01 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. Hi, how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? Thanks for answering and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, I do take your point, and for the most part agree with it. That is very bad, and a very sad state of affairs when organizations like the RNIB treat something like Azabat as the best solution in terms of games when Jim Kitchen's or Spoonbill's games are cheaper and much better examples of those types of games. Cheers! On 11/8/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well the Vb issue is a separate one, but to just concentrate on design for > the second, I agree taht there is a place for games like Azabat, and > certainly they have produced some unique games, however what irritates me > about their company isn't just the running from the cd it's the attitude of > > avoiding! adding basic features and other elements to their games in an > effort to keep them symple. > > For example, in their anagram and mathematics style games, you have no > ability to input an answer, or have the computer keep score, also, though > the games run with the timer it is simply an audio sound file of a ticking > clock that the user ignores or not as they wish. Effectively, the game is > not using the power of the computer at all to create challenge, interest or > > extra possibilities for the puzzle, you could do pretty much the same thing > > with an audio timer and a bag of tactile scrabble letters. > > Bare in mind This wasn't due to the developer's lack of skill, indeed he did > > add the feature to have the computer produce a generic list of answers with > > the anagram from the dictionary (albeit it is up to the user to do > everything in his/her head as to whether he/she got any of those answers). > The developer stated his decision to do this was because he "wanted to have > > it as a game where people could just yell out" but what is really the point > > of that? > > Compare this to the Bg anagrams game of spoonbill or indeed the anagrams > game from allinplay, both of which are considderably cheaper than azabat's > version, have far more features (including in the case of allinplay online > competition), and are customizable with respect to time, challenge, score > etc, all of which customizations could be easily set for a person in the > game and saved by someone else, (though they're not hard to set on their > own). > > Another example might be pontes backgammon, which impressed me so much I > bought the game. Loads of features, customizable background, play against > the computer on various difficculties, or play online, or indeed with > someone else at the same machine, different rule sets, even different ways > of viewing the board, (you can play witht the mouse if you wish), not to > mention several language packs, yet to start a game you just start the > program and hit enter, (everything is found in the settings menue). > > While Azabat was certainly the first to create an accessible backgammon > game, and they still have the only backgammon game with graphics, in terms > of customization, features and just plane design Pontes is an amazingly well > > put together affair, (plus it's cheaper too). > > while as I said I have nothing against card, word or puzzle games, and > indeed enjoy them myself on occasion, like any games the better designed the > > better the game, and it just seems Azabat chose to design the games without! > > features, complexities or indeed in some cases much interaction at all in > gthe guise of "simplicity" and yet this is what the Rnib promotes as a > > standard for modern > and complete audio computer games for blind people! > > Oh,nd to prvent this turning into a witchunt on Azabat, a very similar > example is talking crossword puzzles, vs Bg crosswords from spoonbill, which > > even lets you import crosswords in different formats from actual newspapers! > > again, why do certain people and organizations have the idea that "for the > blind" means skimping on decent design? > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop?
Hi. Thanks for the vote of confidence. I'll see. It's a little more difficult now due to where my speakers are and need to rearrange my desk but I'm glad people enjoyed what I did so far. All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Darren, Sadly, I have had no luck getting Silent Steel to run under Windows 7 myself. I don't know precisely what the problem is, but I have not had any luck with it yet either. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has > anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! > > > Darren Duff. > amateur radio station KK4AHX. > > Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. > > friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. > > Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 > > primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com > > Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com > > MSN darren...@hotmail.com > > skype duffman31279 > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi, how is this game accessible? I read on wikipedia that you have to make choices to progress the story. Are these choices spoken or anything? Thanks for answering and best regards Sarah --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi Lindsay, Silent Steel is an old submarine game written for Windows 95. Interesting enough it was one of the few mainstream games that is fullyaccessible to the blind either through accident or design. Cheers! On 11/8/13, lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com wrote: > What is silent steel? --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop?
Seconded On 11/8/13, Allison P wrote: > You should make a podcast for it, Dark. That'd be neat! Besides, you > need to make more podcasts anyways. 'Cause I likes them! Heh. > Seriously though, they are awesome! And you make me laugh, which is > always of the good. > > On 11/7/13, dark wrote: >> Hi Lindsay. >> >> You can find the game at http://www.core-exiles.com/ >> >> For a more detailed explanation and some handy links, see >> http://audiogames.net/db.php?action=view&id=Core Exiles >> >> Hth, and as I said, I'm dark empathy on there. Feel free to look me up in >> game. >> >> All the best, >> >> Dark. >> - Original Message - >> From: >> To: "Gamers Discussion list" >> Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:09 PM >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop? >> >> >>> Please can you send me the details of that game? >>> >>> -original message- >>> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop? >>> From: Allison P >>> Date: 07/11/2013 10:46 pm >>> >>> Hey dArk. That game sounds cool! I shall definitely give it a look. >>> And it's great that the developer is willing to make things more >>> accessible. When so many aren't, sadly. >>> >>> On 11/7/13, dark wrote: Hi. Well After mucking about with several other online games, I've gone back to ce, after not playing since february, and really I'm wondering why I ever stopped playing in the first place or why i've been wadnering around looking for alternatives! This is particularly true given the recent additions I've noticed in the game, which include a full scale npc war against A.I ships, and the ability to have a crew (though getting a ship that will take one will not be easy). Also added is personal combat, that is now when you explore derelict spacecraft and alien planets, you actually get to fight things yourself! I've not tried this yet, but it's something I've wanted in the game for a very! long time and I can't wait to try. So anyone who hasn't played for a while might want to get back to the game as I am, And anyone who's not tried it, well go to http://www.core-exiles.com/ and have a look. Oh, and of course check out the db page on audiogames.net for a hopefully reasonable overview (though likely it'll need updating yet again! Oh, and btw, Ce has probably the single best developer in terms of vi access I know in a web game. To give an example, when reviewing the recently updates and reading the current guides on combat, the developer said things like "and for Vi players that bar is labled as so and so!" So, not only is vi access implicit in the game, but it's even continually! being written into new updates, which, for a game with such very heavy graphics as Ce is really amazing! Oh, I'm dark empathy on there if anyone wants to ping me, (or indeed write my name into the recommended by box when singing up). All the best, Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >>> >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://aud
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Fun times! I'm guessing you'd rely on an OCR addon for your screen reader to read the choices? Scott On 11/8/13, Darren Duff wrote: > Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Steel > > -Original Message- > From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of > lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com > Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:44 AM > To: Gamers Discussion list > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. > > What is silent steel? > > -original message- > Subject: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. > From: "Darren Duff" > Date: 08/11/2013 4:41 pm > > Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has > anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! > > > Darren Duff. > amateur radio station KK4AHX. > > Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. > > friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. > > Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 > > primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com > > Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com > > MSN darren...@hotmail.com > > skype duffman31279 > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, > send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop?
You should make a podcast for it, Dark. That'd be neat! Besides, you need to make more podcasts anyways. 'Cause I likes them! Heh. Seriously though, they are awesome! And you make me laugh, which is always of the good. On 11/7/13, dark wrote: > Hi Lindsay. > > You can find the game at http://www.core-exiles.com/ > > For a more detailed explanation and some handy links, see > http://audiogames.net/db.php?action=view&id=Core Exiles > > Hth, and as I said, I'm dark empathy on there. Feel free to look me up in > game. > > All the best, > > Dark. > - Original Message - > From: > To: "Gamers Discussion list" > Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 11:09 PM > Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop? > > >> Please can you send me the details of that game? >> >> -original message- >> Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Back to core exiles and why did I stop? >> From: Allison P >> Date: 07/11/2013 10:46 pm >> >> Hey dArk. That game sounds cool! I shall definitely give it a look. >> And it's great that the developer is willing to make things more >> accessible. When so many aren't, sadly. >> >> On 11/7/13, dark wrote: >>> Hi. >>> >>> Well After mucking about with several other online games, I've gone back >>> >>> to >>> ce, after not playing since february, and really I'm wondering why I >>> ever >>> stopped playing in the first place or why i've been wadnering around >>> looking >>> for alternatives! >>> >>> This is particularly true given the recent additions I've noticed in the >>> game, which include a full scale npc war against A.I ships, and the >>> ability >>> to have a crew (though getting a ship that will take one will not be >>> easy). >>> >>> >>> Also added is personal combat, that is now when you explore derelict >>> spacecraft and alien planets, you actually get to fight things yourself! >>> I've not tried this yet, but it's something I've wanted in the game for >>> a >>> very! long time and I can't wait to try. >>> >>> So anyone who hasn't played for a while might want to get back to the >>> game >>> as I am, >>> >>> And anyone who's not tried it, well go to >>> http://www.core-exiles.com/ >>> and have a look. >>> >>> Oh, and of course check out the db page on audiogames.net for a >>> hopefully >>> reasonable overview (though likely it'll need updating yet again! >>> >>> Oh, and btw, Ce has probably the single best developer in terms of vi >>> access >>> I know in a web game. To give an example, when reviewing the recently >>> updates and reading the current guides on combat, the developer said >>> things >>> like "and for Vi players that bar is labled as so and so!" >>> >>> So, not only is vi access implicit in the game, but it's even >>> continually! >>> being written into new updates, which, for a game with such very heavy >>> graphics as Ce is really amazing! >>> >>> Oh, I'm dark empathy on there if anyone wants to ping me, (or indeed >>> write >>> my name into the recommended by box when singing up). >>> >>> All the best, Dark. >>> --- >>> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >>> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >>> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >>> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >>> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >>> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >>> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >>> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >>> list, >>> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >>> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> >> >> --- >> Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org >> If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to >> gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. >> You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at >> http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. >> All messages are archived and can be searched and read at >> http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. >> If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the >> list, >> please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. >> > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concern
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
I took it as an ironic light hearted jab, with no offense meant or taken. Notta problem. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 7:17 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine Hi Charles, Smile. I just couldn't resist mentioning it seeing that it was ironic you were busting Shaun's chops for not reading his messages and turned out you obviously hadn't done that yourself. Cheers! On 11/7/13, Charles Rivard wrote: Yep, I missed that one, as we all do, occasionally. The spell checker didn't catch it, because "fond" is a word. I didn't listen to the message before sending. Thanks. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Read about it here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Steel -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of lindsay_cow...@btinternet.com Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 11:44 AM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. What is silent steel? -original message- Subject: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. From: "Darren Duff" Date: 08/11/2013 4:41 pm Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
What is silent steel? -original message- Subject: [Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7. From: "Darren Duff" Date: 08/11/2013 4:41 pm Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] Running silent steel under win7.
Hi all. I can't seem to get silent steel to install under windows 7. Has anyone managed to get this to work? I really miss playing! Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. Your very right about games, however bare in mind what takes up a huge amount of space is graphics! especially the hyper complex, performance heavy 3D nonsense that most games have nowadays, just look at the relative size of audio and visual files. Of course, we've not had a complete commercial audio game with as complex a mechanic as most mainstream offerings, but I'd be willing to be just cutting out the graphics would reduce the size by at least half, if not more. As one example, if I remember Rightly King of Dragon pass, which is about mechanically as complex a game as you will find, is I believe about 140 mb, and even that! has significant amounts of still pictures and images. Papasangre 2 which has amazingly rich audio landscape is I believe around 60 mb. Of course, we haven't seen an audio game with the complexity of something like dark souls, skyrim etc, so it's not quite possible to say, but still just based on what I know of data and programming I'm pretty sure the requirements are wy smaller. This indeed might be another reason audio games are taking off on hand held platforms, since even with a 64 gb Iphone your still very limited in space. BEware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Lol sean no, I've not heard of pork at all, it sounds amusing indeed! I think the best grue parody I saw in an if game was the game augmented forth. If you wandered around in the dark (which you had to actually do a little at the start of the game), you were told "It's pitch dark, but don't worry, you are in no danger of being tripped over by a trubblesome marsupial!" If you spent too long in the dark (about 10 turns or so), you got a message along the lines of "suddenly you find yourself falling over and cracking your head on the floor while behind you a little insectivore laughs a synister laugh, never trust a marsupial!" :D. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Tom. Well the Vb issue is a separate one, but to just concentrate on design for the second, I agree taht there is a place for games like Azabat, and certainly they have produced some unique games, however what irritates me about their company isn't just the running from the cd it's the attitude of avoiding! adding basic features and other elements to their games in an effort to keep them symple. For example, in their anagram and mathematics style games, you have no ability to input an answer, or have the computer keep score, also, though the games run with the timer it is simply an audio sound file of a ticking clock that the user ignores or not as they wish. Effectively, the game is not using the power of the computer at all to create challenge, interest or extra possibilities for the puzzle, you could do pretty much the same thing with an audio timer and a bag of tactile scrabble letters. Bare in mind This wasn't due to the developer's lack of skill, indeed he did add the feature to have the computer produce a generic list of answers with the anagram from the dictionary (albeit it is up to the user to do everything in his/her head as to whether he/she got any of those answers). The developer stated his decision to do this was because he "wanted to have it as a game where people could just yell out" but what is really the point of that? Compare this to the Bg anagrams game of spoonbill or indeed the anagrams game from allinplay, both of which are considderably cheaper than azabat's version, have far more features (including in the case of allinplay online competition), and are customizable with respect to time, challenge, score etc, all of which customizations could be easily set for a person in the game and saved by someone else, (though they're not hard to set on their own). Another example might be pontes backgammon, which impressed me so much I bought the game. Loads of features, customizable background, play against the computer on various difficculties, or play online, or indeed with someone else at the same machine, different rule sets, even different ways of viewing the board, (you can play witht the mouse if you wish), not to mention several language packs, yet to start a game you just start the program and hit enter, (everything is found in the settings menue). While Azabat was certainly the first to create an accessible backgammon game, and they still have the only backgammon game with graphics, in terms of customization, features and just plane design Pontes is an amazingly well put together affair, (plus it's cheaper too). while as I said I have nothing against card, word or puzzle games, and indeed enjoy them myself on occasion, like any games the better designed the better the game, and it just seems Azabat chose to design the games without! features, complexities or indeed in some cases much interaction at all in gthe guise of "simplicity" and yet this is what the Rnib promotes as a standard for modern and complete audio computer games for blind people! Oh,nd to prvent this turning into a witchunt on Azabat, a very similar example is talking crossword puzzles, vs Bg crosswords from spoonbill, which even lets you import crosswords in different formats from actual newspapers! again, why do certain people and organizations have the idea that "for the blind" means skimping on decent design? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Hi Shaun, Lol! I Forgot about the old Pork game. That game was funny. I love parities like that. I didn't play the second one, but I did play the first one way back when. Cheers! On 11/8/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Well dark have you ever played the old pork series on agt that was a > parody of zork. > I never completed pork2, but in pork1, the grue was friendly. > It replaced batteries if you ran out of light. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] request about android mailing lists
Hi, You can join the Eyes Free Mailing List on Google Groups if you want to talk about Android phones, tablets, and other google devices running Android. Go to https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/eyes-free to join the Eyes Free List. P.S. In the future please ask a moderator for permission to post off topic messages like this to the list. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Mariolemieux wrote: > Hi, guys again. I realize that my qyestion is not associated with games, > but really need your assistance. Would like to know the adreses of a > mailing list or a discussion list on blind people talking about android > devices, such as smart phones and tablets and their accessibility. > > --- > Это сообщение свободно от вирусов и вредоносного ПО благодаря защите от > вирусов avast! > http://www.avast.com > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Well dark have you ever played the old pork series on agt that was a parody of zork. I never completed pork2, but in pork1, the grue was friendly. It replaced batteries if you ran out of light. At 05:08 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Hi lori. Grues were creatures in the original Zork interactive fiction games by infocom from the 1980's. Everytime you went into somewhere dark you'd get the message "it's pitch dark, you are in danger of being eaten by a grue" and then if you didn't immediately exit the area or light a match you were told "oh no! you've stumbled in the jaws of a lirking grue!" Grues were therefore held to be creatures who waited in the dark to eat adventurers who went stumbling around without a light. Obviously this presents an amusing paradox for blind gamers. While I am not personally a major fan of the Zork games, (too much in the way of illogical puzzles and guess the verb), I do love the idea of the grue! I like the name, i like the fact that nobody actually knows what they look like or what they are (I did hear in a later zork game you got to see one but that's quite disappointing). I even wrote a little song (which I'd love to reccord if I ever find the technology), the chorus of which are "Beware the grue! whatever yee may do, he'll bight your thighs, suck out your eyes and make a meal of you, he'll use your skin to keep things in, and use your blood as glue, he'll eat you most completely, so look out for the grue!" It has about three verses, all involving various people being eaten by the grue, and choruses that get preogressively more weerd! what can I say, I just love the word grue! Regarding gamebooks, well Lori there are a lot of good ones out there with really atmospheric and quite exceptional writing, so while I fully agree that audio games are awsome, you might want to try some out, --- such as the choiceofgames on the iphone or the offerings from http://www.ffproject.com/ for more you can search the audiogames.net db by "gamebooks" as genre. Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] request about android mailing lists
Hi, guys again. I realize that my qyestion is not associated with games, but really need your assistance. Would like to know the adreses of a mailing list or a discussion list on blind people talking about android devices, such as smart phones and tablets and their accessibility. --- Это сообщение свободно от вирусов и вредоносного ПО благодаря защите от вирусов avast! http://www.avast.com --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house
well lorry what about the dimentions game on Iphone. I have always wandered how you could walk round in 2 worlds at once lol. At 04:49 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Lol, I'll get some funny looks if I'm ever out in the street playing it, people will think me mad shouting into my phone. I wonder what the back story is, like who's the killer and how the player got in the house in the first place. -Original Message- From: Charles Rivard Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 3:43 PM To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Escape the house Turn Voice-Over off, and then blame Phil! Twice! --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "loriduncan" To: Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2013 9:39 AM Subject: [Audyssey] Escape the house > Hi everyone, I downloaded Escape the House last night and started trying > to play it, but Iâm not sure whether I should turn voice-over off or not. > Also, is there an audio demo of the game availible? I think it was a > mistake to start playing the game at midnight, ah well it was on Philâs > list of horror games, so I know who to blame lol. From Lori. > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to > gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. > You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at > http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. > All messages are archived and can be searched and read at > http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. > If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the > list, > please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. > --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Charles, I know, but I can see their rationality to a point. The fact of the matter is most people world wide who are blind and low vision are over the age of 50. So that much make sense. However, as Dark has stated many times the majority of their funds are gotten through wills and charitable donations so they play to the group whom they are most likely to get money from. So as far as the RNIB is concerned anyone below 50 just isn't worth their time unless they are willing to put up a lot of money to get noticed. Cheers! On 11/7/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Maybe someone who would be served by the RNIB, or someone who is employed by > > them, can explain why the RNIB doesn't listen to, or realize that there are > > blind people from the age of 1 minute to over 90 years? Sheesh. It's > common sense, isn't it? Sure, there are people who lose their eyesight due > > to their age, or through an accident or a disease later in life, but there > also people who are born blind. Those people are young, and need > entertainment, too. And how about the 25 to 40 group? That's like saying > that all people who are deaf or hard of hearing are at least 70, or that all > > people who need to use a wheelchair are at least 70. It makes no sense! > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Dark, Yeah, I agree with you. I don't have a problem with Azabat producing card, puzzle, and board games. As I recall they were one of the first to come out with an accessible Drafts game. What always got on my wick is the way they implemented their games by running them directly from the CD. For one thing the Azabat games are very small, and most people today have at least a 100 GB drive or larger so its not like space should be a major concern. Most of Azabat's customers are likely to own some screen reader weather it be Jaws, Supernova, Window-Eyes, or something free like NVDA. Anyone who has used a computer for a while should be able to install and run the game from the Start Menu like any other program. If finding icons is a concern on XP, Vista, and Windows 7 an icon can be placed on the desktop for convenience, and it can be pinned to the taskbar in Windows 8 and Windows 8.1. Either way finding and launching the game is not very complicated. Azabat is over simplifying something that just does not need to be that simple. The other issue is more a concern than a complaint. Azabat like so many audio game developers has chosen the Visual Basic 6 route, and now is facing serious problems with Windows 8 and 8.1. There is absolutely no native Visual Basic 6 support in Windows 8.x so if someone goes out and buys a new Toshiba, HP, or similar laptop the Azabat games aren't going to work unless someone helps them install all the missing components. Even then I've noticed some older games tend to crash or fail to work correctly on Windows 8 and 8.1. So Azabat is selling people on out dated technology, and I do not know when or if they are going to correct those issues. Cheers! On 11/7/13, dark wrote: > Hi tom. > > Even in the Uk, though the attitude of the rnib is held by some > organizations, there are some who are better. People may remember a few > years ago the organization Guide dogs organization I've always been a major > > fan of for their generalized good attitude and habbit of pushing people to > try and achieve things, albeit accessible computer games are sort of out of > > their perview. On the other hand, Action for blind people ran an audio games > > contest as part of their accessible technology blog, and when i wanted to > test out an Iphone there was someone from the technology section of the > local society who was quite happy to come and do a demonstration for me. > > It's generally a matter of finding the good ones and going with them, though > > I confess the prevailance of the rnib, the fact that when the Uk government > > or health service newly diagnoses someone as blind that! is who they are > sent to does somewhat get on my whick. > > Indeed, last time I went for an appointment with an optomatrist (as I do > from time to time to check my eye pressure, remaining vision and > medication), I noticed a man and his wife sitting behind me discussing > talking watches in rather worried tones. Since they were uncertain about > watches and asked about the one I was actually wearing I broke the ice and > asked if they'd like a look. > > I actually felt rather sorry for this couple since the lady had recently > gone blind, was in her late 50's but had lived a highly active life, going > on major camping trips around europe, cycling and the like, and had pretty > much been told she'd now have to stop. > > Indeed, she was a little amazed when she heard I lived on my own, and even > more so when I explained I was at university finishing a doctorate since it > > just hadn't been explained to her that someone without vision could do those > > sorts of things. > > While that didn't relate explicitly to games (this lady was obviously not > really interested in such), it does sort of show the mentality. > > In particular one thing that annoys me slightly about Aadvertising zabat's > is their major insistance on "running straight from the cd!" as a major > factor, as if running a program from a program shortcut such as one of the > spoonbill games, pontes backgammon or Jim kitchins is beyond people, > heck, even if you were dealing with an absolute computer novice it'd hardly > > be difficult to setup a shortcut key so all a person would have to do is > press say control alt 1 to run the game. > > My mum is a complete computer novice, (she struggles with sending e-mail or > > basically managing files on her machine), yet once I'd installed Bg Sudocue > > for her (her being a big Sudocue fan), she's got no problems running it from > > the programs menue. > > I certainly have no problem with people producing card, word, puzzle or > other traditional games, there are people who enjoy such things and the fact > > that they now come with innumerable peaces of technology (even my parents > new sky plus Tv box came with monopoly, battleships and solitare), but why > simplify more than needs be? > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. > > > --- > Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org > If you want to
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Shaun, Well, these days most newer games come on DVD not CD, and the really high-end games for Play Station III etc come on blue ray discs. There are many good reasons why companies do this. Besides being able to use it as a type of copy protection, forcing people to physically own the media, with the size of many games to day it is better that the contents of the game remain on the DVD or blue ray disc than your hard drive. Perhaps you don't realize this but many mainstream commercial games are usually between 2 GB and 4 GB in size, and the really high-end ones can be 20 GB or more. With that amount of data it would easily fill up a good sized hard drive in no time at all. To give you an idea of what kind of sizes we are talking about the laptop I am using has a 300 GB drive in it. Now that drive is plenty for most of my needs, but if I started installing commercial games on it about 4 GB in size I'd quickly end up using most of that space on games. If I had 25 games that is 100 GB spent on games alone. Plus the more stuff a person stores on their boot drive the slower the operating system will run, and as a performance fanatic I'd go nuts having my OS dragging down to a snails crawl because I had x number of games on it. Cheers! On 11/8/13, shaun everiss wrote: > Dark sadly I know a lot of sighted games that still run from the cd > or need the cd for varification when run so I think while a lot don't > that this seems to be an industry practice rather than a minority one. > I don't care for this either. > it puts extra ware on the drive and disks, and for a lot of programs > that do it, it is not usually needed unless some files are not > installed on the system. > Silent steel does this but you can get round it easily enough. > I have known friends that have brought games. > That they have cracked just to avoid running off the cd, because they > hate it so much. > I still know modern games that still need the cd. > I do think this is being abused to much. > In the old days 1995 and earlier I realise why that was but with all > the power we have now we shouldn't need to run off a disk or > anything like that at all, there is no real excuse. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] pg13 casts
Hi. I don't have a internet radio station but I do have a team talk server and all are welcome. Find it at nighthawk-service.net ports 10334. If you do join the server I might not be there so the best way to let me know you are there to chat is to follow me on twitter @blinddrummer and message me to let me know you are on. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of shaun everiss Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 11:56 PM To: gamers@audyssey.org Subject: [Audyssey] pg13 casts Hi darrin. Your podcast really kick but. Often I play games to win but you just play games to win but to also loose whatever. I like how you do it all. The casts also mentioned a stream. Do you have a net radio station, where do you go to do it, how do I get notified for streams and when do you broadcast. I am gmt+12 hours, but if its in the right time for me, my morning or afternoon for example or late at night before midnight my time then I will make all effort to listen in and if you do have a teamtalk you use I may even jump on and join you. I myself do a cohosting role on another station for one show and when time allows I do enjoy it. I really enjoyed your playthroughs and comments on papa 1 2 and the night jar. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Hi Charles, Smile. I just couldn't resist mentioning it seeing that it was ironic you were busting Shaun's chops for not reading his messages and turned out you obviously hadn't done that yourself. Cheers! On 11/7/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > Yep, I missed that one, as we all do, occasionally. The spell checker > didn't catch it, because "fond" is a word. I didn't listen to the message > before sending. Thanks. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Audyssey Magazine
Dark sadly I know a lot of sighted games that still run from the cd or need the cd for varification when run so I think while a lot don't that this seems to be an industry practice rather than a minority one. I don't care for this either. it puts extra ware on the drive and disks, and for a lot of programs that do it, it is not usually needed unless some files are not installed on the system. Silent steel does this but you can get round it easily enough. I have known friends that have brought games. That they have cracked just to avoid running off the cd, because they hate it so much. I still know modern games that still need the cd. I do think this is being abused to much. In the old days 1995 and earlier I realise why that was but with all the power we have now we shouldn't need to run off a disk or anything like that at all, there is no real excuse. At 03:04 AM 11/8/2013, you wrote: Hi tom. Even in the Uk, though the attitude of the rnib is held by some organizations, there are some who are better. People may remember a few years ago the organization Guide dogs organization I've always been a major fan of for their generalized good attitude and habbit of pushing people to try and achieve things, albeit accessible computer games are sort of out of their perview. On the other hand, Action for blind people ran an audio games contest as part of their accessible technology blog, and when i wanted to test out an Iphone there was someone from the technology section of the local society who was quite happy to come and do a demonstration for me. It's generally a matter of finding the good ones and going with them, though I confess the prevailance of the rnib, the fact that when the Uk government or health service newly diagnoses someone as blind that! is who they are sent to does somewhat get on my whick. Indeed, last time I went for an appointment with an optomatrist (as I do from time to time to check my eye pressure, remaining vision and medication), I noticed a man and his wife sitting behind me discussing talking watches in rather worried tones. Since they were uncertain about watches and asked about the one I was actually wearing I broke the ice and asked if they'd like a look. I actually felt rather sorry for this couple since the lady had recently gone blind, was in her late 50's but had lived a highly active life, going on major camping trips around europe, cycling and the like, and had pretty much been told she'd now have to stop. Indeed, she was a little amazed when she heard I lived on my own, and even more so when I explained I was at university finishing a doctorate since it just hadn't been explained to her that someone without vision could do those sorts of things. While that didn't relate explicitly to games (this lady was obviously not really interested in such), it does sort of show the mentality. In particular one thing that annoys me slightly about Aadvertising zabat's is their major insistance on "running straight from the cd!" as a major factor, as if running a program from a program shortcut such as one of the spoonbill games, pontes backgammon or Jim kitchins is beyond people, heck, even if you were dealing with an absolute computer novice it'd hardly be difficult to setup a shortcut key so all a person would have to do is press say control alt 1 to run the game. My mum is a complete computer novice, (she struggles with sending e-mail or basically managing files on her machine), yet once I'd installed Bg Sudocue for her (her being a big Sudocue fan), she's got no problems running it from the programs menue. I certainly have no problem with people producing card, word, puzzle or other traditional games, there are people who enjoy such things and the fact that they now come with innumerable peaces of technology (even my parents new sky plus Tv box came with monopoly, battleships and solitare), but why simplify more than needs be? Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
[Audyssey] pg13 casts
Hi darrin. Your podcast really kick but. Often I play games to win but you just play games to win but to also loose whatever. I like how you do it all. The casts also mentioned a stream. Do you have a net radio station, where do you go to do it, how do I get notified for streams and when do you broadcast. I am gmt+12 hours, but if its in the right time for me, my morning or afternoon for example or late at night before midnight my time then I will make all effort to listen in and if you do have a teamtalk you use I may even jump on and join you. I myself do a cohosting role on another station for one show and when time allows I do enjoy it. I really enjoyed your playthroughs and comments on papa 1 2 and the night jar. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lets play papa sangre 2.
I was on the pg13 site and there are only a few of them and papa2 doesn't even work and I had to get it from sendspace, my impression was that all casts would go up there but yeah I do want to listen to the rest of the stuff. The quality is really good and its addicting. I like the comments and the chatter, dark humor and refferences down to the evil laughs. I have listened to some other casts and there are bad points like they being in mono. Obviously not everyone has studio equipment, however that does not mean they can not do a good cast if they put their mind to it. There are good casts I have deleted because of such things as accessive noise, mike handling, and bad quality all round. At 10:14 AM 11/7/2013, you wrote: Hello, Darren. Is there a place that I can go to listen to all of those guys walkthroughs? Thanks! --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Lets play papa sangre 2.
thanks for that. all the rest of your casts are on my hard drive. Its pouring buckets today and your stuff will definately rock. I got blindside a bit ago as a trade for somethiing, however have never managed to get over the hall with the sleeping zombies in it. I like other peoples takes on things, as they can tell me a great deal on how I should play things. At 09:29 AM 11/7/2013, you wrote: Not a problem. Glad to help. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Christina Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 3:14 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: Re: [Audyssey] Lets play papa sangre 2. Thank you. -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Darren Duff Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2013 2:35 PM To: 'Gamers Discussion list' Subject: [Audyssey] Lets play papa sangre 2. Here's the download link for the lets play papa sangre 2 for those that wanted it. http://www.sendspace.com/pro/dl/pgzuvy Darren Duff. amateur radio station KK4AHX. Follow me on twitter @blinddrummer. friend me on face book http://www.facebook.com/blinddrummer. Personal Phone: (678)936-6113 primary E-mail duff...@gmail.com Mobile E-mail mobiledu...@gmail.com MSN darren...@hotmail.com skype duffman31279 --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre II Controls Hanging
As someone also suggested, I've tried waiting until each level loads before turning off VO, and amazingly, this does seem to help the situation significantly. I still see the issue from time to time but not nearly to the degree I was. thanks, Cara :) --- iOS design and development - LookTel.com --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 7, 2013, at 2:03 PM, Paul Lemm wrote: Hi, I've found the controls lagging in papa 2, although not a full fix I have found as someone else suggested it doesn't seem as bad if you leav voice over turned on. In the first papa I couldn't leave voice over on since it meant double tapping a footstep button to activate it but in papa 2 even with voice over on you only have to tap the footstep button once (like if you had voice over off) and you take a step. Like I said this doesn't totally stop the lag but I have found it a little better with voice over on Paul -Original Message- From: Gamers [mailto:gamers-boun...@audyssey.org] On Behalf Of Cara Quinn Sent: 05 November 2013 14:53 To: Gamers Discussion list Subject: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre II Controls Hanging Hi All, To those playing Papa Sangre II, as mentioned before, in addition to the difficulty walking in the game, I also seem to be finding pretty serious issues with the controls locking / hanging in general. I'm wondering, is anyone else seeing this? People had mentioned others are having some issues walking but do you find you're also having issues occasionally with just general use of the controls as well? As I've said, I've had a super easy time using the Papa and NightJar controls before, and my touches are really pretty precise as I've used the iPhone for quite some time, but it just seems that the simplest actions with a single touch are just not registering when I need them to. It's like something in the game is hanging but I cannot work out a pattern yet at this point. I'll be walking along just fine, and then suddenly for no reason that I can discern, the controls will lock, and the game will not allow me to move anymore for a few seconds. The closest I can come to a profile for this behavior would be that it seems to happen while using Gyro mode when several sounds are playing or when speech is happening during active play. I.E. not during instruction or cut scenes where the controls are obviously meant to be locked. I was thinking this was just my own adrenaline perhaps causing me to get a bit sloppy with my control of the game but after having this happen on some very simple actions, such as doing a single tap to work with one's hand in the game, and having it just not respond for several single discreet taps, (even done slowly / extra carefully) this really does seem to be a game issue. Also, in my own development experience, I know it is possible to get single taps to respond extremely quickly (much much faster than in this game) I've done it. :) (Adventure game in LookTel VoiceOver Tutorial) So the Papa II controls seem to be really annoyingly hanging at some points which is causing me to not be able to complete some levels due to running out of time at crucial sections of the game. This is just obnoxious and makes the game more frustrating than fun, unfortunately! lol! :) This is a great game and I'd really like to finish it. :) Anyway, if anyone knows of a way to offer feedback or possible suggestions, I'd love to. This is definitely the best game from Somethin' Else at this point, in my opinion. So I'd really like to see this working well. So anything I can do, I'd be happy to. Just for info, I'm running this on an iPHone 5. Thanks All, and have a great day!. Smiles, Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make c
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Hi Dark, That's funny. You are right it is cool having a dog with such a well known science fiction name. Cheers! On 11/8/13, dark wrote: > Hi Tom. > > Well I don't have a grue for a pet, at least not one I'd admit to, you need > > a license you know. > > I do however have a Reever! currently sitting on my feet. which, if you seen > > the series Firefly you know are scary space zombies! or indeed in the maze > runner books they're evil glowing giant scorpians, or indeed in Space > Odyssey their psychotic robots! Either way they are pretty scary! > > Oh, and btw, no this isn't a joke, my dog is actually called Reever! it was > > rather amusing to end up with a dog who's name has such a distinguished sf > history, albeit she is actually not that scary (about as far from scary as > you could get). > > Beware the Grue! > > Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Hi Tom. Well I don't have a grue for a pet, at least not one I'd admit to, you need a license you know. I do however have a Reever! currently sitting on my feet. which, if you seen the series Firefly you know are scary space zombies! or indeed in the maze runner books they're evil glowing giant scorpians, or indeed in Space Odyssey their psychotic robots! Either way they are pretty scary! Oh, and btw, no this isn't a joke, my dog is actually called Reever! it was rather amusing to end up with a dog who's name has such a distinguished sf history, albeit she is actually not that scary (about as far from scary as you could get). Beware the Grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] Papa Sangre II Controls Hanging
hi Cara, Many thanks for the below message. I did try this but it didn't say selected so did it again and no luck maybe i turned it off with the second attempt. Will try again and many thanks for all your help. Regards Christopher Huby tel no: 07562729946 Email 1: christopher.h...@blueyonder.co.uk email 2: christopher.h...@hotmail.co.uk On 7 Nov 2013, at 01:15, Cara Quinn wrote: HI Christopher, Once you double tap the swipe button in the settings screen, simply back out of that screen and you will be in swipe mode. Hope this helps. Cara :) --- View my Online Portfolio at: http://www.onemodelplace.com/CaraQuinn Follow me on Twitter! https://twitter.com/ModelCara On Nov 6, 2013, at 3:02 AM, Chris wrote: Christopher --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Hi Charles, Nope. Dark is not a Grue, but sometimes I wonder about him. He must have one for a pet. :D As for encountering Grues in the original Zork games you only encountered one when you entered a dark room or area without a light. If you were the type of adventurer that carried a light with you everywhere you went you probably never were in the dark long enough to encounter one. Cheers! On 11/8/13, Charles Rivard wrote: > And all this time, I thought the Grue was Dark? (ornery grin) I have > played the infocom games a little, but didn't remember that creature. > Somewhere around here, I have the original CD that I bought from GMA Games > that included one of, if not the first, versions of SOD and LW, as well as a > > set of text adventure games along with appropriate interpreters. > > --- > Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
And all this time, I thought the Grue was Dark? (ornery grin) I have played the infocom games a little, but didn't remember that creature. Somewhere around here, I have the original CD that I bought from GMA Games that included one of, if not the first, versions of SOD and LW, as well as a set of text adventure games along with appropriate interpreters. --- Shepherds are the best beasts, but Labs are a close second. - Original Message - From: "Thomas Ward" To: "Gamers Discussion list" Sent: Friday, November 08, 2013 3:18 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games. Hi Lori, A Grue is a monster that was originally created for the Infocom games like Zork if I remember correctly.If you don't play interactive fiction or text adventures that may be why you are unfamiliar with that particular monster. Cheers! On 11/7/13, loriduncan wrote: Hi Dark, what is a Grue? I've never tried gamebook games because of the lack of sound, but I wouldn't mind trying to write one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
Re: [Audyssey] iOS audio horror games.
Hi Lori, A Grue is a monster that was originally created for the Infocom games like Zork if I remember correctly.If you don't play interactive fiction or text adventures that may be why you are unfamiliar with that particular monster. Cheers! On 11/7/13, loriduncan wrote: > Hi Dark, what is a Grue? I've never tried gamebook games because of the > lack of sound, but I wouldn't mind trying to write one. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to gamers-unsubscr...@audyssey.org. You can make changes or update your subscription via the web, at http://audyssey.org/mailman/listinfo/gamers_audyssey.org. All messages are archived and can be searched and read at http://www.mail-archive.com/gamers@audyssey.org. If you have any questions or concerns regarding the management of the list, please send E-mail to gamers-ow...@audyssey.org.
