Re: [DISCUSS] Mentor neutrality policy
On 10/10/2015 Daniel Gruno wrote: I'm not suggesting we start auditing people. As later clarified, I am suggesting people recuse themselves from voting if they (or others?) feel that they have economic or other corporate interests that may cloud either their judgment or their perceived judgment. Wouldn't it be enough to ask mentors to disclose their interests rather than prohibiting them to participate in activities? If the IPMC is properly informed, then it may add mentors or discuss with the existing mentors, or simply use more scrutiny on the project, to avoid unwanted situations. If the above sounds naive it might be due to the fact that I have no experience (as far as I know) with podlings that had the issues described by Daniel. But I agree with Daniel's principles. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Question related to IP Clearance and software grant
jan i wrote: Your concern is valid for all countries in EU. except if a country has a exception. the default in the IT industry is that the employer need to allow you to do similar work off hours ... in any case copyright belong to the company. Wow, this is really interesting! I know this is not legal-discuss, but if you have any pointers I would really like to read them. I don't know of any similar regulations for Italy (I work for an Italian company), but this is due to pure ignorance. All my Apache work, and a significant part of the open-source work of my colleagues, is done outside working hours, so your note is very interesting for me. If you have any more information I'm looking forward to reading it. Otherwise, thanks a lot for an eye-opening remark because so far I had assumed that by default a contract would not interfere with off-hours activities. To be clear: my past and future contributions to Apache are not endangered in any way, but still I had never thought this could apply by default in the EU. And I'll get it checked in any case. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: What is the legal basis for enforcing release policies at ASF?
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: On the other hand, somebody taking said snapshot and releasing it under the name Project BOO, licensed under the ALv2. Is something that both the ALv2 license AND our trademark policy are totally fine with. What if (not a fictional example; a real case) the code is taken from a branch that comes from a recent code donation and source headers are still in the process of being updated to comply with the donation? Waiting for that code to be included in a formal release for sure solves the problem. But if one doesn't want to wait, I wouldn't know what to suggest. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Incubating with Apache Commons as champion?
Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal was voted -1 in the incubator because it had many Apache folks already and didn't need to learn anything. Yet the project didn't move into Apache - perhaps because it didn't have any pressure or framework to go through the Incubator process? BeanShell got stuck because nobody had enough time and energy to invest on it after questions had been asked. A new release of BeanShell (for a generic use of the term, not an Apache Release) was uploaded in the tarball repository of OpenOffice dependencies and that's it. The reason is simply that people involved preferred to spend their time and energy in other ways. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Binary Convenience Package Dependencies
On 05/01/2015 jan i wrote: On 5 January 2015 at 18:52, Alex Harui wrote: 2) In [2] it says for Category B: By including only the object/binary form, there is less exposed surface area of the third-party work from which a work might be derived; this addresses the second guiding principle of this policy. By attaching a prominent label to the distribution and requiring an explicit action by the user to get the reciprocally-licensed source, users are less likely to be unaware of restrictions significantly different from those of the Apache License.” Does “including” means “bundling”? If so, the quoted text must be referencing binary packages and not source packages since source packages can never include object/binary forms. Or does “including” also refer to build scripts that download an MPL jar like Saxon? AOO release notes, includes the list of external packages (binary) we use, but we do NOT provide the source for these libraries, nor do our installer give the user a possibility to download. Let me just complete this. The OpenOffice SVN repository (but, Jan is correct, not the source package we ship) does include some libraries that are under Category A. OpenOffice can be fully built from that source package, but our users need additional functionality. So the convenience binaries are configured with --enable-category-b (yes, we really have a configure option named that way) and include binary forms of some extra libraries. These are listed and credited not in the Release Notes, but in the LICENSE file. So credits and notices are shipped with the binaries. Again, for convenience of developers, we archive the Category A materials in SVN, and we archive Category B materials on Apache Extras, which seemed a wonderful idea to have them permanently archived until Google decided to pull the plug and shut down Apache Extras... Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] accept corinthia into incubator
On 06/12/2014 jan i wrote: can help us in many ways, you are e.g. working on FOSDEM, we (you and I) could make a great presentation (I do the work) and use it to present Corinthia and at the same time show that AOO is very much alive. If you agree then I will fly to FOSDEM and also help with AOO I am sure both projects would benefit from it, and Apache as a whole. I don't see your presentations listed yet on the FOSDEM page, but sure, please do submit today the 1-2 presentations I know you are working on, and then we can plan something like the above, thank you! Andrea - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] accept corinthia into incubator
On 03/12/2014 jan i wrote: AOO developers suggested to start a new project, without the history. See also comments in this thread from pescetti (chair of AOO) I agree, and let me add (of course, as an individual and not as the current chair of OpenOffice): at this stage, it would not be beneficial to either OpenOffice or Corinthia to have Corinthia as part of OpenOffice. This reinforces my +1. Things may well change at a later stage and, who knows, the projects could merge and maybe share branding. But at the moment it is important that Corinthia is given its own space to grow. Since there are common technologies and expertise, for sure occasional updates about Corinthia won't be considered off-topic on the OpenOffice lists. Andrea Pescetti wrote: waiting for the time when I will finally be able to find again some nights for coding for fun, my appreciation is all I can give. I realize I was somewhat obscure. I mean: my work (which is unrelated to Apache) is keeping me too busy to find some time to actively contribute to Corinthia. And this is the only reason keeping me from getting involved in a project that, I believe, has a great potential. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] accept corinthia into incubator
On 02/12/2014 jan i wrote: As champion for corinthia, I hereby ask for a vote on accepting corinthia into incubator. +1 (non-binding) from me, and I'll accompany it with my sincere hopes that the project can be successful. As I told you in person at ApacheCon, I'm not signing up as an initial committer since my absolute lack of time, and related unresponsiveness, would just be a burden for a project that I'd like to see moving fast. So, waiting for the time when I will finally be able to find again some nights for coding for fun, my appreciation is all I can give. (I've just edited the proposal on the wiki, but just for a typo fix in an Apache project name; this of course has no effects on the vote in progress) Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Convenience Binary Policy
On 23/10/2014 brane wrote: On 22.10.2014 03:02, Justin Mclean wrote: You may possibly be forgetting about Category B licensed dependancies. These may only be included in binary form in an Apache product. ... I have trouble visualising how any ASF project could have /mandatory/ dependencies on anything from the B-list. If I understand correctly, we are speaking about optional dependencies rather than mandatory dependencies. But the distinction, especially if you look at the information Dennis already discussed, might not always be clear: for OpenOffice, one of those dependencies is the spell checker (external library, Hunspell). So: our source release can perfectly come without a spell checker, builds fine and works. Technically this is an optional dependency and everything is correct and in accordance with the ASF rules. Still, for a user it would be quite problematic if we removed the spell checker from the convenience binaries... So this is not mandatory but it's still a must have for our final users, and given the OpenOffice audience it totally makes sense that the project recommends a convenience binary that already comes with some optional features included. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Project swag store to benefit the ASF
P. Taylor Goetz wrote: Is there any precedent or best practice for setting up a project swag store on something like cafe press? The closest OpenOffice came to this is simply by listing reorder links to promotional material here: http://www.openoffice.org/marketing/art/galleries/logos/index.html But this is for volunteers attending events rather than for the general public, as explained at the top of that page. I need to place an order, but I would also like to allow others to order items, and I would like any proceeds to go to the ASF. Any suggestions? In our case we simply link to a vendor for convenience, but we make it clear that This is only one of many merchants that can provide this kind of service and is not specifically endorsed by the Apache Software Foundation. There are no agreements with this vendor (i.e., all money goes to the vendor). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [RESULT] [VOTE] Release Apache Optiq 0.9.0 (incubating)
On 25/08/2014 jan i wrote: I am amazed how many ways my name can be spelled. That happens more often if you don't use your full name when signing or in the mail sender... But I'm looking forward to seeing the next variant! (and sorry for the off-topic) Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Incubator request
jan i wrote: I have been helping a project to change from a closed source project to an opensource project, and of course in due time join ASF. The project have today asked me to be their official champion, I am honored to be asked and have accepted. Very good, congratulations! Thanks peter and louis for putting trust in me. I hope that at due time the trust won't be in an individual only, but that the whole ASF will earn the trust it deserves. This is an important start, however, and I'm looking forward to see the project applying for incubation at the ASF. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Rob Weir joins the IPMC
Roman Shaposhnik wrote: The Incubator PMC has voted to offer membership to Rob Weir and he has accepted. Congratulations, Rob! Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] Pros and Cons of incubation requiring 2 mailing list migrations
Andy Konwinski wrote: However, as Apache, we don't ask the project to move mailing lists only once, we ask them to move twice: once when entering the incubator and once at graduation. Though the second move is easier, it is still painful in our case since (unless I'm missing something) you can't migrate a nabble mailing list from the @incubator.apache.org to @apache.org and so now the history of our projects email archives will be spread out over three different locations. You needn't reconfigure it, since the old (incubator) address is turned into an alias for the new one: for example, http://markmail.org/search/?q=list%3Aorg.apache.incubator.ooo-dev has an incubator reference in the URL, but it reflects the current archives of dev-AT-openoffice.apache.org. Of course, this is not nice and not clear: I'm simply pointing out that you needn't reconfigure it. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [ANNOUNCE] Raphael Bircher joins the Incubator PMC
Marvin Humphrey wrote: The Incubator PMC has voted to offer membership to Raphael Bircher and he has accepted. In addition to his work here in the Incubator, Raphael is active in Apache OpenOffice. Congratulations, Raphael! Nice to see you involved in the Apache community at large too. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Accept Twill for Incubation
On 07/11/2013 Andreas Neumann wrote: The discussion about the Weave proposal has calmed. As the outcome of the discussion, we have chosen a new name for the project, Twill. I would like to call a vote for Twill to become an incubated project. I used a different software named Twill in the past: http://twill.idyll.org/ It doesn't seem actively developed any longer, but if there is an issue to investigate the suitability of this name feel free to add this information there. And no, I'm not suggesting that the name should change once again! Just saying that there is an existing software project named Twill, and this may or may not be relevant. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Shepherd assignments October 2013
On 02/10/2013 Marvin Humphrey wrote: Please welcome new shepherds Andrei Savu and Raphael Bircher! We look forward to the fresh perspectives you bring. Welcome both, and especially Raphael whom I happen to know quite well for his activity in OpenOffice! Good to see more OpenOffice people involved in the Apache community at large. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Unused OpenOffice source tree in incubator: keep or remove?
On 29/05/2013 Daniel Shahaf wrote: On Tue, May 21, 2013 at 09:40:19PM +0200, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Is this the recommended configuration or shall we svn remove the whole old tree, maybe leaving only a README.txt pointing to the new location? Ask infra about arranging a redirect - this might be possible but would have to be done manually since ooo != openoffice. OK, thanks. We will have a look at this once OpenOffice 4.0 is released and the old trunk will become effectively obsolete. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Unused OpenOffice source tree in incubator: keep or remove?
OpenOffice has had its own TLP source tree http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/openoffice/ since the end of 2012, and the old source tree http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/incubator/ooo/ is still reachable, read-only. Is this the recommended configuration or shall we svn remove the whole old tree, maybe leaving only a README.txt pointing to the new location? Apparently there are many outdated web pages around still pointing to the old tree, and this confuses newcomers. Of course, until the stable version is at 3.4.1 (which was released from the incubator and still contains references to the incubator) we wouldn't make the change. But I'd like to know how to behave when we release 4.0. Thanks, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator
On 18/02/2013 Simone Tripodi wrote: feel free to join the list if you are interested, I am sure you would be more than welcome! I added myself to the interested people at http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal but I wonder if there are any news. It's been a while since the discussion started... Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC
Benson Margulies wrote: I was not sure that I'd kept this updated, so I went back through all the email since November and tried to reconcile the entries and exists between the email, this file in svn, and ldap. Does anyone know how to cross-check this file and ldap? This might help (it helps me with the OpenOffice groups): https://whimsy.apache.org/roster/committee/incubator Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Wiki access
Can someone please grant me write access to the Incubator wiki? http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/ My username is AndreaPescetti Thanks, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: committee-info.txt and the incubator PMC
Bertrand Delacretaz wrote: The real question might be why this needs to be duplicated (I assume) between LDAP and a file - any advice from infra? It is not strictly duplicated. committee-info.txt contains historical information that you won't find in LDAP (for example, PMC members who have decided to go emeritus or leave). Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: How to handle 3rd party extensions
On 12/03/2013 Juan Pablo Santos Rodríguez wrote: I'd like to ask a quick question to know how 3rd party extensions are handled in other Apache projects. Not that OpenOffice is a typical Apache project, but OpenOffice hosts its extensions at http://extensions.openoffice.org/ The site is officially considered a third-party site and hosts user-provided content under all kinds of licenses; it used to be hosted at Oracle and it is now hosted by SourceForge as a service to the OpenOffice community. Same for the templates site http://templates.openoffice.org/ Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [PROPOSAL] BeanShell join the Apache Incubator
Simone Tripodi wrote: the BeanShell project, the long living JSR-274 reference implementation, would like to join the Apache Incubator ... http://wiki.apache.org/incubator/BeanShellProposal Great news! Apache OpenOffice has BeanShell as a dependency and it would surely benefit from an actively maintained BeanShell under the Apache umbrella: I hope BeanShell can make it to the Incubator. Pedro already signed up as an initial committer and he is the best person to ensure collaboration between BeanShell and OpenOffice. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Accept Apache Open Climate Workbench into the Incubator
On 05/02/2013 Mattmann, Chris A (388J) wrote: OK, now that discussion has settled down, I'd like to call a VOTE for acceptance of Apache Open Climate Workbench into the Incubator. ... [ ] +1 Accept Apache Open Climate Workbench into the Incubator [ ] +0 Don't care. [ ] -1 Don't accept Apache Open Climate Workbench into the Incubator +1 Accept Apache Open Climate Workbench into the Incubator (non-binding) Andrea - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] Apache cTAKES 3.0.0-incubating RC5 release
On 25/01/2013 Benson Margulies wrote: On Fri, Jan 25, 2013 at 3:04 AM, Mattmann, Chris A (388J) What about Apache OpenOffice? I asked this question about Open Office, and I got, more or less, what I typed in above. I was puzzled, but there you have it. As I recall, Roy made a remark like 'our real users are people who will take the source of Open Office ...'. This is not exactly the way the OpenOffice project sees this. We are voting on a release right now, and of course we put great care in ensuring that the source code is clean and that it can be used by our downstream projects to build upon; but we also make extensive tests on the convenience binaries, since we know that our largest group of users is the 35 millions and counting who already downloaded the approved binaries. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Using the incubator space to release new languages
OpenOffice 3.4.1, released in 20 languages when it was still undergoing incubation in 2012, will be released in 8 more languages later this month. We will keep the version number at 3.4.1 and release a patch to the current 3.4.1 sources that contains just the language support for the new languages. So we plan to use the incubator space again, and add new files to http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/stable/3.4.1/ http://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/ooo/files/localized/ With version 4.0, scheduled for April 2013, we will clean up our incubator files. Note that this has no impact on end-user downloads, that are served from the SourceForge network. But still, since this is probably unusual for other projects, I preferred to send you this warning in advance. Best regards, Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PMC. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: PPMC versus commiter
On 19/12/2012 Benson Margulies wrote: With all respect, I don't see the OO podling as typical. It's sheer size put it in a different category Indeed. In addition to what others already wrote, it should be noted that some of the OpenOffice committers only help with managing and checking in translations into a specific language, and are uninterested in the project governance at large. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: all podlings please update and maintain project metadata
David Crossley wrote: Recently Clutch is detecting that there are many such issues [1]. The notes in that table try to assist by linking to some relevant documentation. ... [1] http://incubator.apache.org/clutch.html#other In the OpenOffice case, offending filenames listed at http://people.apache.org/~crossley/incubator-releases-bad-filename.txt belong to a security patch issued for OpenOffice.org 3.3 (released before incubation); they were made available as an exception, to address a security problem while the first (3.4) Apache OpenOffice release was not available yet, and it's normal that they do not contain the word incubating. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] [DISCUSS] Recommend to the Board to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project
On 10/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: Please cast your vote: [ ] +1, recommend the resolution to the Board [ ] +0, abstain/don't care [ ] -1, do not recommend the resolution to the Board, because... This vote will be open for 72 hours from now; only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding. Heads-up: the voting period will finish in about 6 hours. Shortly after it finishes, I plan to send the tally to this list and (upon successful outcome of the vote) send an email to the Board asking to include the resolution in the agenda for the next Board meeting. I'm just following the guidelines at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/graduation.html#process but if there is anything that should be done differently please share it here, since we are on a tight schedule to make it in time for next Board meeting. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[RESULT] Re: [VOTE] Recommend to the Board to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project
On 10/10/2012 Andrea Pescetti wrote: I'm hereby asking the IPMC to recommend the following resolution to the Board. Aim of the resolution is to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project as a Top Level Project. ... This vote will be open for 72 hours from now; only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding. The Vote started on 2012-10-10 has ended. Results: +1 Jukka Zitting (IPMC) +1 Chris Mattmann (IPMC) +1 Ross Gardler (IPMC) +1 Mark Struberg (IPMC) +1 Dave Fisher (IPMC) +1 Christian Grobmeier (IPMC) +1 Suresh Marru (IPMC) +1 Leif Hedstrom (IPMC) +1 Joe Schaefer (IPMC) +1 Yegor Kozlov (IPMC) +1 Shane Curcuru (IPMC) +1 Andrew Rist +1 Alexei Fedotov There were no other votes cast. Tally (IMPC): 11 +1 votes, no 0 votes, no -1 votes. The IPMC has approved the proposal to recommend the resolution to the Board. I'll now proceed and send an email to the Board asking to include the resolution in the agenda for the next Board meeting. Regards, Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PPMC. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: [VOTE] [DISCUSS] Recommend to the Board to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project
Jukka Zitting wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 10:00 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: Aim of the resolution is to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project as a Top Level Project. [x] +1, recommend the resolution to the Board Good luck, and a big thank you to everyone involved! Thank you! The recommended resolution template has changed a bit recently. I suggest you update the text to (otherwise the board will likely do so in any case): [...] charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to open-source software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications. Thanks. Actually there's a repetition here, I assume you meant to the public, related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications. The revised version is below and, since the text is unchanged besides two sentences being swapped, I assume we can go on with the current vote. Resolution text: --- WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software, for distribution at no charge to the public, related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenOffice Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, OpenOffice be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache OpenOffice Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache OpenOffice Project: * Andre Fischer (af) * Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) * Andrew Rist (arist) * Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) * Armin Le Grand (alg) * Dave Fisher (wave) * Donald Harbison (dpharbison) * Drew Jensen (atjensen) * Ian Lynch (ingotian) * Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) * Kay Schenk (kschenk) * Kazunari Hirano (khirano) * Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) * Marcus Lange (marcus) * Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) * Pedro Giffuni (pfg) * Peter Junge (pj) * Raphael Bircher (rbircher) * Regina Henschel (regina) * RGB.ES (rgb-es) * Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) * Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) * Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Andrea Pescetti be appointed to the office of Vice President, OpenOffice, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache OpenOffice.org podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator OpenOffice.org podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged. --- Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
[VOTE] Recommend to the Board to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project
Seeing no objections to my last message, and keeping into account that this list had been regularly informed about the steps Apache OpenOffice was taking towards graduation, I'm hereby asking the IPMC to recommend the following resolution to the Board. Aim of the resolution is to establish the Apache OpenOffice Project as a Top Level Project. Please cast your vote: [ ] +1, recommend the resolution to the Board [ ] +0, abstain/don't care [ ] -1, do not recommend the resolution to the Board, because... This vote will be open for 72 hours from now; only votes from the Incubator PMC are binding. Resolution text: --- WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenOffice Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, OpenOffice be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache OpenOffice Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache OpenOffice Project: * Andre Fischer (af) * Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) * Andrew Rist (arist) * Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) * Armin Le Grand (alg) * Dave Fisher (wave) * Donald Harbison (dpharbison) * Drew Jensen (atjensen) * Ian Lynch (ingotian) * Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) * Kay Schenk (kschenk) * Kazunari Hirano (khirano) * Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) * Marcus Lange (marcus) * Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) * Pedro Giffuni (pfg) * Peter Junge (pj) * Raphael Bircher (rbircher) * Regina Henschel (regina) * RGB.ES (rgb-es) * Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) * Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) * Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Andrea Pescetti be appointed to the office of Vice President, OpenOffice, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache OpenOffice.org podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator OpenOffice.org podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged. --- Best regards, Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PPMC. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Proposed resolution: Establish the Apache OpenOffice Project
The Apache OpenOffice PPMC and Community believe the project is ready to graduate to a Top Level Project. Multiple steps were taken in this direction, including: - Community vote to start graduation process: http://s.apache.org/e7F - Consensus on resolution text: http://s.apache.org/JN8 - Election of Starting Membership for the PMC: http://s.apache.org/aR9 - Election of a (future) PMC Chair: http://s.apache.org/019 - Feedback from mentors: http://markmail.org/message/utklcwlfwl5wp5sx The proposed resolution text follows. I expect to start a VOTE on it on general@incubator as soon as there is consensus (on the same list). --- WHEREAS, the Board of Directors deems it to be in the best interests of the Foundation and consistent with the Foundation's purpose to establish a Project Management Committee charged with the creation and maintenance of open-source software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications, for distribution at no charge to the public. NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RESOLVED, that a Project Management Committee (PMC), to be known as the Apache OpenOffice Project, be and hereby is established pursuant to Bylaws of the Foundation; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is responsible for the creation and maintenance of software related to the OpenOffice personal productivity applications; and be it further RESOLVED, that the office of Vice President, OpenOffice be and hereby is created, the person holding such office to serve at the direction of the Board of Directors as the chair of the Apache OpenOffice Project, and to have primary responsibility for management of the projects within the scope of responsibility of the Apache OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the persons listed immediately below be and hereby are appointed to serve as the initial members of the Apache OpenOffice Project: * Andre Fischer (af) * Andrea Pescetti (pescetti) * Andrew Rist (arist) * Ariel Constenla-Haile (arielch) * Armin Le Grand (alg) * Dave Fisher (wave) * Donald Harbison (dpharbison) * Drew Jensen (atjensen) * Ian Lynch (ingotian) * Jürgen Schmidt (jsc) * Kay Schenk (kschenk) * Kazunari Hirano (khirano) * Louis Suarez-Potts (louis) * Marcus Lange (marcus) * Oliver-Rainer Wittmann (orw) * Pedro Giffuni (pfg) * Peter Junge (pj) * Raphael Bircher (rbircher) * Regina Henschel (regina) * RGB.ES (rgb-es) * Roberto Galoppini (galoppini) * Yang Shih-Ching (imacat) * Yong Lin Ma (mayongl) NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT FURTHER RESOLVED, that Andrea Pescetti be appointed to the office of Vice President, OpenOffice, to serve in accordance with and subject to the direction of the Board of Directors and the Bylaws of the Foundation until death, resignation, retirement, removal or disqualification, or until a successor is appointed; and be it further RESOLVED, that the initial Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the creation of a set of bylaws intended to encourage open development and increased participation in the OpenOffice Project; and be it further RESOLVED, that the Apache OpenOffice Project be and hereby is tasked with the migration and rationalization of the Apache OpenOffice.org podling; and be it further RESOLVED, that all responsibilities pertaining to the Apache Incubator OpenOffice.org podling encumbered upon the Apache Incubator Project are hereafter discharged. --- Best regards, Andrea Pescetti - Apache OpenOffice PPMC. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: OpenOffice.org dependencies at runtime. was: Re: OO/LO License + Why LO needs the AFL 2.0 to exist (quickly)
On 05/06/2011 Nick Kew wrote: On 5 Jun 2011, at 09:25, eric b wrote: Apologies, the most up to date information is here : http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/External/Modules Thanks for that. Looks like there's some LGPL stuff but no strong copyleft. Most dictionaries are missing from the list. They are in many cases covered by strong copyleft licenses (the Italian dictionary, that I currently maintain, is GPL3) and they are currently included thanks to the mere aggregation clause, see http://openoffice.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=65039 To make the mere aggregation more explicit (i.e., show that OpenOffice.org can work without dictionaries), dictionaries are now packaged as extensions even when they come bundled with OpenOffice.org. Dictionaries aren't a dependency in the strict meaning of this term, but they are vital for anyone wishing to use OpenOffice.org. Regards, Andrea Pescetti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant
On 07/06/2011 Andrew Rist wrote: We are trying to provide all of the Oracle owned content in the OOo repositories. As a longtime OpenOffice.org volunteer (mini-introduction: involved with the OpenOffice.org project since 2003, main contributions in QA, Localization and QA Tools, Italian Project Lead since 2005) I'm happy to see Oracle finally answering questions on public lists. May I ask for a last clarification on the code covered by the Oracle grant? Some observers, like the Document Foundation [1] and Bradley Kuhn [2], seem to imply that the grant will also turn some proprietary software (components exclusive to StarOffice - Oracle Open Office perhaps? Or Oracle Cloud Office?) into free software: is this the case or, as it seems from the provided file list, all the code covered by the grant is already available as free (LGPL3) software? [1] http://blog.documentfoundation.org/2011/06/01/statement-about-oracles-move-to-donate-openoffice-org-assets-to-the-apache-foundation/ [2] http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2011/06/01/open-office.html Regards, Andrea Pescetti. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
Re: Code covered by the Oracle grant
Andrew Rist wrote: I'll quote my earlier answer [1] on that: Our approach is to start with the main open source code - stuff with clear provenance. The OOo extensions are more complex in terms of licensing and other issues, but this is certainly something to revisit at a later stage of the project. (acknowledged - that was several hundred messages ago) Thanks for the confirmation. I had indeed read this message and all the several hundreds in between, but it seemed important enough to ask explicitly again, especially considering that those statements haven't been corrected and that the Oracle proprietary bits surely qualify for the clear provenance, so making them free software should not pose particular problems. Regards, Andrea. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: general-unsubscr...@incubator.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: general-h...@incubator.apache.org
