[gentoo-user] Copying existing installation to new harddrive

2003-07-21 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
  I set up a GENTOO box for a friend of mine (it's his first Linux
  experience and he is really happy with it) recently.

  The box in question has a rather old, small and slow harddrive that he
  wants to exchange in the near future.

  Is it possible, and if so, how, to copy the existing GENTOO installation
  to the new harddrive?

  TIA,
Sebastian

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[gentoo-user] Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread Stefano
I'm trying to install Gentoo from stage1 into a laptop Compaq Presario 1200 - 
XL 122. About its processor, kernel says AMD K6-3d, so I've setted make.conf 
with 686 architecture and march as K6-2 and opt. 3 (is it correct?). After 
bootstrap sequence starts all seems fine, Gcc is ok, then script installs it 
and starts compiling GLIBC (after about 6 hours from bootstrap start). The 
problem is that the GLIBC compilation stops with error. I didn't write error 
message down, but it talks about an illegal instruction. 
My opinion is that the GCC version compiled for my system is unstable. Perhaps 
my make.conf settings are too aggressive or bad?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying existing installation to new harddrive

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 08:16, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
   I set up a GENTOO box for a friend of mine (it's his first Linux
   experience and he is really happy with it) recently.

   The box in question has a rather old, small and slow harddrive that
 he wants to exchange in the near future.

   Is it possible, and if so, how, to copy the existing GENTOO
 installation to the new harddrive?

Sure it is, but where to start explaining the steps to you now?

Which information do you have already?  Did you read the Hard Disk 
Upgrade Mini How-To yet?

Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To
http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html

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[gentoo-user] Re: Copying existing installation to new harddrive

2003-07-21 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 Hard Disk Upgrade Mini How-To
 http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/mini/Hard-Disk-Upgrade/index.html

  Thanks, that's what I needed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] BinHex

2003-07-21 Thread Jean Magnan de Bornier
Le 07/20/03 Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] a écrit notamment:

 On Sunday 20 July 2003 16:38, Jean Magnan de Bornier wrote:
 snip
 Yes; strangely, with emerge --search .. I had not got that!
 Installed uudeview right now, and ooffice still tells me:
 (This file must be converted with BinHex 4.0)
 This file is an attachment that gnus describes as:
 application/mac-binhex40; questionnaire.doc
 Any hint ?

OK, man uudeview was the answer. I should have known


 The reason you didn't get it with --search is because it does not fully search 
 the descriptions of the packages.  Note the capital S I used, this takes 
 longer, but often finds what you need.

Yes, it's interesting to know, Thank you Tom,
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[gentoo-user] Recompiling for a new architecture

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Eastman

In about a week I will finally be upgrading my old PIII-500 to a nice
new AMD Athlon 2.5 ghz.

Unfortunately, my gentoo system is compiled completely with
march=pentium3.  Does this mean that nothing will work on my new
athlon with it's different instruction set?

If this is the case, I suppose I can do an 'emerge -e world' with
some safe optimizations that will work on both AMD and Pentium
processors, that way I can safely tranfer the system.  What would be
an architecture setting that is understandable by both CPU's?
something like march=i686?

Is this the best way of going about it? I'm really not looking forward
to doing an 'emerge -e world' on my slow P500.  Is there a better way?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Riiping DVD?

2003-07-21 Thread MAL
Norberto BENSA wrote:
On this subject. How do I copy a DVD image to my HD?

I've rent Final Fantasy, and I'd like to copy the movie. Something like: 

	dd if=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 of=ffantasy.dvd

But it didn't work.

Any other suggestion?
emerge dvdrip

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[gentoo-user] What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
I'm brand new to Gentoo, and have never seen this thing in KDiskFree called:

02:50:53  Exp N/A AZARAH

It seems to be a file system of some knid, and is also in .bashrc:

# /etc/skel/.bashrc:
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
#2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $

and also fstab:

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
02:50:53 azarah Exp $

Can someone enlighten me as to what this is, and it's relevance?

It also showed up when opening a console a few times.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Gour --
 I'm planning to switch to Gentoo from SuSE by buying 1.4 Gentoo
 Linux CD set.

 What is the correct version for my Celeron 566: i686 or Pentium III
 CdD set?

There isn't a special version of Gentoo. Just grab a x86 LiveCD, boot 
from it and install as described here [1].

The only important thing for you is that you choose the right gcc 
compiler flags, so that your compiled code is understandable and 
optimized for your CPU. More info is avail. here [2].

HTH! Greetins, Matthias

footnote:
[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml
[2] http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* Robert Crawford [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-07-21 04:52:51 -0400]:

 I'm brand new to Gentoo, and have never seen this thing in KDiskFree called:
 
 02:50:53  Exp N/A AZARAH
 
 It seems to be a file system of some knid, and is also in .bashrc:
 
 # /etc/skel/.bashrc:
 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
 #2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $
 
 and also fstab:
 
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
 02:50:53 azarah Exp $
 
 Can someone enlighten me as to what this is, and it's relevance?
 
 It also showed up when opening a console a few times.
 
 Thanks,
 Robert Crawford (wrc1944)

It is the official username of one of the gentoo developers.  If you see that name it 
means that developer has had some activity with that particular file or package.

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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Janne Johansson
Gour wrote:
I'm planning to switch to Gentoo from SuSE by buying 1.4 Gentoo Linux CD set.
Buying a CD set is a great idea :)

What is the correct version for my Celeron 566: i686 or Pentium III CdD set?
I believe your Celeron is a P2. Since there isn't a P2 optimized CDs 
available (to order) yet, the best bet would be i686. There might still 
be P2 optimized set coming though, since the GWN says we are now 
accepting pre-orders for Gentoo Linux 1.4 for x86, i686, Pentium III, 
Pentium 4 and Athlon XP, with other architectures coming soon.

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[gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Robert Crawford wrote:
 # /etc/skel/.bashrc:
 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
 #2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $

  Those are CVS/RCS ID tags inside a comment. The question is not what
  is azarah but who is azarah, because it shows who edited the file
  last in CVS.

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[gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Bernhard Huber
how can i know if the header files and the 'apxs' tool are installed, is it
automatically , with apache ?
Where are they ?

I see, the apxs2 tool, but i need the apxs tool, is it the same ?

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[gentoo-user] Mad with Cyrilic fonts with GTK or gnome? Please help.

2003-07-21 Thread Alex Radetsky

Hello, dear collegues. 

 Now, I'm installing new workstation based on  gentoo to my notebook
 Dell Latitude C600. 
 All works fine, but I have some troubles with cyrillic fonts. 

 With windowmaker all fonts looks fine, but any gtk+ based application
show me any cyrilic fonts as code (04xx). I can put screenshot at my 
 http-server. 
 
 Do you have any ideas? 

 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling for a new architecture

2003-07-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 21 July 2003 17:34, Tom Eastman wrote:
 In about a week I will finally be upgrading my old PIII-500 to a nice
 new AMD Athlon 2.5 ghz.

 Unfortunately, my gentoo system is compiled completely with
 march=pentium3.  Does this mean that nothing will work on my new
 athlon with it's different instruction set?

 If this is the case, I suppose I can do an 'emerge -e world' with
 some safe optimizations that will work on both AMD and Pentium
 processors, that way I can safely tranfer the system.  What would be
 an architecture setting that is understandable by both CPU's?
 something like march=i686?

 Is this the best way of going about it? I'm really not looking forward
 to doing an 'emerge -e world' on my slow P500.  Is there a better way?

I'm not certain of this so you'll need to check your what your CPU supports, 
which the kernel outputs during start-up. I'm pretty sure the Pentium-III 
supports mmx, mmx2 and sse - I think it was the P4 that brought in sse2. If 
that is the case then the code will all work on the Athlon; it just won't be 
optimized for its cache sizes, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Gour
Matthias F. Brandstetter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 There isn't a special version of Gentoo. Just grab a x86 LiveCD, boot 
 from it and install as described here [1].

I was thinking about using pre-built versions in order to have quick start beeing
a little bit short on bandwidth (ISDN) and not to have to download  compile everything
from the scratch.
 
 The only important thing for you is that you choose the right gcc 
 compiler flags, so that your compiled code is understandable and 
 optimized for your CPU. More info is avail. here [2].

From [2] it looks like i686-optimized set is the right one.

Thanks for the tips.

Sincerely,
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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 21 July 2003 18:33, Janne Johansson wrote:
 Gour wrote:
  I'm planning to switch to Gentoo from SuSE by buying 1.4 Gentoo Linux CD
  set.

 Buying a CD set is a great idea :)

  What is the correct version for my Celeron 566: i686 or Pentium III CdD
  set?

 I believe your Celeron is a P2. Since there isn't a P2 optimized CDs
 available (to order) yet, the best bet would be i686. There might still
 be P2 optimized set coming though, since the GWN says we are now
 accepting pre-orders for Gentoo Linux 1.4 for x86, i686, Pentium III,
 Pentium 4 and Athlon XP, with other architectures coming soon.

I don't know whether the Celeron in question is P2 or P3, but I'm pretty sure 
that i686 is P2. 586 was P1, was it not? So if it is in fact P2, the i686 
build would be the best to get. When it says other architectures coming soon, 
it probably means IA64, Opteron, etc.

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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Gour
Janne Johansson ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Buying a CD set is a great idea :)

:-))


 I believe your Celeron is a P2. Since there isn't a P2 optimized CDs 
 available (to order) yet, the best bet would be i686. There might still 
 be P2 optimized set coming though, since the GWN says we are now 
 accepting pre-orders for Gentoo Linux 1.4 for x86, i686, Pentium III, 
 Pentium 4 and Athlon XP, with other architectures coming soon.

According to the info on freehackers' site it seems i686 is the right thing for 
my Coppermine Celeron.

Sincerely,
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[gentoo-user] emerge error

2003-07-21 Thread reg hughson
After doing an emerge a few days ago, now whenever I use emerge to do
anything, I now get this:

Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2003
(Could take a couple minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
  .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
.Traceback (most recent call last):
  File /usr/bin/emerge, line 13, in ?
import portage
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 5032, in ?
do_upgrade(mykey)
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 4966, in
do_upgrade
db[/][bintree].move_ent(mysplit)
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 3814, in
move_ent
self.populate()
  File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 3893, in
populate
if (not os.path.isdir(self.pkgdir+/All) and not getbinpkg):
NameError: global name 'getbinpkg' is not defined


what happened and how can I fix it?

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[gentoo-user] mail failing to remove the lock file

2003-07-21 Thread Gustav_Schaffter

When a normal user quits /bin/mail, the mail application fails to remove
the mail lock file with the error message:

# mail: Cannot remove lockfile /var/mail/gus.lock: No child processes

The same user can (and must) then manually remove the lockfile from
/var/mail/gus.lock

This doesn't happen for root.
What should I look for?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error

2003-07-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On 07/21/03  reg hughson wrote:

 After doing an emerge a few days ago, now whenever I use emerge to do
 anything, I now get this:
 
 Performing Global Updates: /usr/portage/profiles/updates/3Q-2003
 (Could take a couple minutes if you have a lot of binary packages.)
   .='update pass'  *='binary update'  @='/var/db move'
 .Traceback (most recent call last):
   File /usr/bin/emerge, line 13, in ?
 import portage
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 5032, in ?
 do_upgrade(mykey)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 4966, in
 do_upgrade
 db[/][bintree].move_ent(mysplit)
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 3814, in
 move_ent
 self.populate()
   File /usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/portage.py, line 3893, in
 populate
 if (not os.path.isdir(self.pkgdir+/All) and not getbinpkg):
 NameError: global name 'getbinpkg' is not defined
 
 
 what happened and how can I fix it?

If you have portage-2.0.48-r4 update to -r5 (using ebuild
/usr/portage/sys-apps/portage/portage-2.0.48-r5.ebuild merge)

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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread Janne Johansson
Jason Stubbs wrote:

I don't know whether the Celeron in question is P2 or P3, but I'm pretty sure 
that i686 is P2.
Yes it is... damn.

 586 was P1, was it not? So if it is in fact P2, the i686
build would be the best to get.
You're absolutely right. What was I thinking...

When it says other architectures coming soon, 
it probably means IA64, Opteron, etc.
Possibly athlon classic/old durons also...

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[gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Bernhard Huber

What s the default directory of apache2 ?
What s the default directory of the headers files ?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Bernhard Huber --
 What s the default directory of apache2 ?
 What s the default directory of the headers files ?

Sorry, I can't answer your question, I use Apache1.
But are you sure that you're replying to the right thread?

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AW: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Bernhard Huber
no, it was not a reply ..

Bernhard Huber
BMW Car-IT

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-- quoting Bernhard Huber --
 What s the default directory of apache2 ?
 What s the default directory of the headers files ?

Sorry, I can't answer your question, I use Apache1.
But are you sure that you're replying to the right thread?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Bernhard Huber --
 no, it was not a reply ..

Strange, because I can see your message as a reply to the thread 
which Gentoo version for Celeron 566. Maybe my kmail thread the 
mails wrong? But I had no problems so far...

Does anybody else see Bernhard's Apache mail as an reply or is it 
just me? If so, then sorry Bernhard!

Greetings, Matthias

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Janne Johansson
Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:

Does anybody else see Bernhard's Apache mail as an reply or is it 
just me? 
_O/

And the message itself has a In-Reply-To -header.

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Re: [gentoo-user] mudding?

2003-07-21 Thread Fredrik Jagenheim
On Sat, Jul 19, 2003 at 10:15:11PM -0400, MIKE MacMartin wrote:
 Anyone here mud?  If so, do you have a favourite client for Linux?  Is it in 
 portage?
 

Back when I mudded I used 'powwow'. It was derived from 'tintin',
which in turn was derived from 'cancan', IIRC.

The main reasons I used it was because 'tinyFugue' felt like it had a
small delay from when I pressed the binding key and when the command
was issued. With powwow I could bind all my Function keys to commands
and remap them using other function keys depending on if I was
fighting monsters or players. ;) Keypad was used for 'simple'
movement, (n,ne,e etc).

I don't know /why/ tinyFugue didn't work for me, other people didn't
report any lag using key-bindings, so YMMV.

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Re: [gentoo-user] What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Renat Golubchyk
Hi Robert,

Monday, July 21, 2003, 10:52:51 AM, you wrote:
RC I'm brand new to Gentoo, and have never seen this thing in KDiskFree called:

RC 02:50:53  Exp N/A AZARAH

RC It seems to be a file system of some knid, and is also in .bashrc:

RC # /etc/skel/.bashrc:
RC # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
RC #2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $

RC and also fstab:

RC # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
RC # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
RC 02:50:53 azarah Exp $

RC Can someone enlighten me as to what this is, and it's relevance?

RC It also showed up when opening a console a few times.
It's one of the gentoo developers:

Martin Schlemmer [EMAIL PROTECTED]



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Re: AW: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread MAL
Bernhard Huber wrote:
no, it was not a reply ..

Bernhard Huber
BMW Car-IT
You mail client inserted the following header in your mail:

In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Meaning, that you opened Janne Johansson's mail titled 'which Gentoo 
version for Celeron 566', clicked reply, then wrote a new mail.

I assume you did this because you didn't know what address to use to 
send to the list.

You should be aware that your mail client, (Outlook *shudder*), tells 
other people which mail you replied to, specifically so that their mail 
clients can display the thread of conversation properly.
Doing what you did, screws this display up, meaning that those of us who 
actually follow conversations here, get annoyed.. please don't do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread MAL
Stefano wrote:
I'm trying to install Gentoo from stage1 into a laptop Compaq Presario 1200 - 
XL 122. About its processor, kernel says AMD K6-3d, so I've setted make.conf 
with 686 architecture and march as K6-2 and opt. 3 (is it correct?).
Looks correct, yes.

After 
bootstrap sequence starts all seems fine, Gcc is ok, then script installs it 
and starts compiling GLIBC (after about 6 hours from bootstrap start). The 
problem is that the GLIBC compilation stops with error. I didn't write error 
message down, but it talks about an illegal instruction. 
Faulty memory/overheating CPU

You PC is, no doubt, not used to 6 hours of running at 100% CPU usage :)

I'd run memtest86, check your CPU temperature during compiling with 
lm-sensors, and generally check your fans for dust.

My opinion is that the GCC version compiled for my system is unstable. Perhaps 
my make.conf settings are too aggressive or bad?
That's really unlikely.  During a compile of glibc, the compiler would 
be likely to use the faulty instructions more often than once in 6 hours.

If you want to be totally sure, recompile glibc, and see if it stops in 
the same place.

Thanks for help 
In the end, if compiling is a problem, use distcc to lever the power of 
an external machine, or compile the whole stage1-3 on another machine, 
and rsync it to the laptop.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread Torsten Veller
* Stefano:
 I'm trying to install Gentoo from stage1 into a laptop Compaq Presario 1200 - 
 XL 122. About its processor, kernel says AMD K6-3d, so I've setted make.conf 
 with 686 architecture and march as K6-2 and opt. 3 (is it correct?). After 

/etc/make.conf says in the Host Setting section:
All modern systems (even Athlons) should use i686-pc-linux-gnu. All K6's are i586.

You can set march to k6-3 if it is a K6-3.

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AW: AW: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Bernhard Huber
excuse-me...for the false using of outlock..

Bernhard Huber
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Von: MAL [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Bernhard Huber wrote:
 no, it was not a reply ..
 
 Bernhard Huber
 BMW Car-IT

You mail client inserted the following header in your mail:

In-Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Meaning, that you opened Janne Johansson's mail titled 'which Gentoo 
version for Celeron 566', clicked reply, then wrote a new mail.

I assume you did this because you didn't know what address to use to 
send to the list.

You should be aware that your mail client, (Outlook *shudder*), tells 
other people which mail you replied to, specifically so that their mail 
clients can display the thread of conversation properly.
Doing what you did, screws this display up, meaning that those of us who 
actually follow conversations here, get annoyed.. please don't do it.

Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Gour
Matthias F. Brandstetter ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:

 Does anybody else see Bernhard's Apache mail as an reply or is it 
 just me? If so, then sorry Bernhard!

Me too - with Mutt.

Sincerely,
Gour

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling for a new architecture

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Eastman
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 06:16:20PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
 I'm not certain of this so you'll need to check your what your CPU supports, 
 which the kernel outputs during start-up. I'm pretty sure the Pentium-III 
 supports mmx, mmx2 and sse - I think it was the P4 that brought in sse2. If 
 that is the case then the code will all work on the Athlon; it just won't be 
 optimized for its cache sizes, etc.

Oh that's interesting... so the march is really just saying what kind of extra
instruction sets are supported?  So for example if I had compiled everything 
with 3dnow on an athlon and plugged it into a pentium it would really only
fail because of the 3dnow instructions, and not because they're different in
any other specfic way?

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Re: [gentoo-user] giFT troubles

2003-07-21 Thread Jens Hoffrichter
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:53:18PM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

 After reading the latest GWN, I was very excited to learn that I no 
 longer had a need to have Windows installed. Finally, a way to access 
 the Kazaa network under Linux! But, woe is me
 
 
 upstairs root # emerge gift-fasttrack-cvs
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
  emerge (1 of 1) net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 to /
  Unpacking source...
  * Fetching cvs module giFT-FastTrack into 
 /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
  * Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
 :pserver:anonymous:@cvs.gift-fasttrack.berlios.de:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
 login
 Logging in to 
 :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack
  * Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
 :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
 update -dP giFT-FastTrack
  * Copying giFT-FastTrack from 
 /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
  * Source now in /var/tmp/portage/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1/work
  Source unpacked.
 Running aclocal...
 Running autoheader...
 configure.ac:16: warning: do not use m4_patsubst: use patsubst or 
 m4_bpatsubst
 configure.ac:142: warning: do not use m4_regexp: use regexp or m4_bregexp
 Running autoconf...
 Running libtoolize --automake...
 Running automake...
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE' must be used
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./missing'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./depcomp'
 
 !!! ERROR: net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 32, Exitcode 1
 !!! FastTrack configure failed
I had the same error, after a bit of googling around I found that the
autmake script needs =automake 1.6 to use this syntax. But I had automake
1.7 installed, so still no real explanation for the error.

But if you take a look at the automake package, there are different versions
of automake (1.4 - 1.7) installed, and if you call automake (actually, the
wrapper around the different automake versions), you get automake 1.5 by
default.

The am-wrapper.pl script looks (beside some other things) for a environment
variable called WANT_AUTOMAKE. And if you export/whatever your shell needs
for exporting variables this variable to 1.7 (e.g. bash: export WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.7),
you get the right automake version and gift-fasttrack-cvs compiles without
error :)

CU all,
Jens
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[gentoo-user] Re: Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread Stefano
Alle 12:48, lunedì 21 luglio 2003, MAL ha scritto:

 Faulty memory/overheating CPU

 You PC is, no doubt, not used to 6 hours of running at 100% CPU usage :)

Mmmm...perhaps you're right. Honestly I didn't think to overheating probs. But 
it sounds quite strange. Fan only starts when the temperature goes too high 
and in all compiling process it starts very rarely. I've also used it under 
freebsd and debian without problems and in more onerous conditions. 
However I will  observe the temperature of the processor in order to remove 
every doubt. 
I'd want also to investigate about architecture setting in make.conf. In AMD 
site it seems obvious that my processor (AMD k6 -3D @ 475 mhz) is a K6-2, but 
I haven't found references about architecture. I remember that when I
bought it, in the reviews not all agree to classify the
K6-2 like equivalent to a pentium 2, even if AMD sponsored it in
this way. For someone, it was still be a 586 class processor. 
Therefore I'll retry to compile all stage1 changing architecture setting from 
686 to 586. 
It would be interesting find indications on the 
GCC site, but I didn't find nothing. 
Does anyone with a presario as mine
has happily installed Gentoo from stage1? 
Thanks however of the
precious suggestions
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread MAL
Stefano wrote:
I haven't found references about architecture. I remember that when I
bought it, in the reviews not all agree to classify the
K6-2 like equivalent to a pentium 2, even if AMD sponsored it in
this way. For someone, it was still be a 586 class processor. 
Therefore I'll retry to compile all stage1 changing architecture setting from 
686 to 586. 
You're right to do this.  I have a K6-2 running gentoo, but it's been 
running for so long, untouched, (190 days uptime), that I forgot that I 
had set CHOST to i586-pc-linux-gnu.

Maybe that will fix things.

Cheers,
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RE: [gentoo-user] creating custom instalation cds

2003-07-21 Thread Matthew Gossage
Without sounding dumb ...

How ? :-)



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Sent: 21 July 2003 05:11
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] creating custom instalation cds

matt gossage wrote:
 Any one know how to produce a custom install cd.
  
 that will install the same packages repeatedly on multiple machines, 
 withouth having to fetch them?

You might want to consider creating your own custom stages. You could 
include the portage tree and all the distfiles that you will need. You 
can also include a script that runs the bootstrap and modified all the 
config files and such.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Recompiling for a new architecture

2003-07-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Monday 21 July 2003 20:27, Tom Eastman wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 06:16:20PM +0900, Jason Stubbs wrote:
  I'm not certain of this so you'll need to check your what your CPU
  supports, which the kernel outputs during start-up. I'm pretty sure the
  Pentium-III supports mmx, mmx2 and sse - I think it was the P4 that
  brought in sse2. If that is the case then the code will all work on the
  Athlon; it just won't be optimized for its cache sizes, etc.

 Oh that's interesting... so the march is really just saying what kind of
 extra instruction sets are supported?  So for example if I had compiled
 everything with 3dnow on an athlon and plugged it into a pentium it would
 really only fail because of the 3dnow instructions, and not because they're
 different in any other specfic way?

As far as I know. Instruction ordering and such are also optimised for 
specific CPUs, I think, but you'd really have to check gcc's home page to be 
sure.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread Stefano
Alle 12:53, lunedì 21 luglio 2003, Torsten Veller ha scritto:
 * Stefano:
  I'm trying to install Gentoo from stage1 into a laptop Compaq Presario
  1200 - XL 122. About its processor, kernel says AMD K6-3d, so I've setted
  make.conf with 686 architecture and march as K6-2 and opt. 3 (is it
  correct?). After

 /etc/make.conf says in the Host Setting section:
 All modern systems (even Athlons) should use i686-pc-linux-gnu. All K6's
 are i586.

 You can set march to k6-3 if it is a K6-3.

Ok. I've just seen the freehackers site too. In effect all k6 cpu seems to be 
586 class, so I'll retray stage1 with i586 flags. A little question: do you 
know what does it mean the fomit-frame-pointer set?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #2

2003-07-21 Thread Christopher Fisk
On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, matt gossage wrote:

scaleability, and perfomance

Answered to the e-mail provided.

Has nothing to do with Scaleability, or performance for me.  I guess I was 
more interested in portage.  Apt seemed like a good idea, but IMO was 
always way behind what was available.  I'm not exactly cutting edge, but I 
don't want to be using the razor you just threw away because it's so old 
either. =)

When I ran Red Hat I always had issues with RPMs not having the right 
libraries installed to get them working.  I was at the point with these 
that I would get the SRPM instead of the RPM and recompile it on the fly 
and install from that.  That way you knew when you installed the RPM that 
everything would work for you.  (Well most of the time).

Gentoo just made it so I'm getting the SRPM everytime.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Installing from stage 1: bootstrap problems

2003-07-21 Thread Torsten Veller
* Stefano:
 A little question: do you know what does it mean the
 fomit-frame-pointer set?

in etc/make.conf:
CFLAGS=-march=k6-3 -fomit-frame-pointer

from man gcc:

-fomit-frame-pointer
 Don't keep the frame pointer in a register for functions that don't
 need one.  This avoids the instructions to save, set up and restore
 frame pointers; it also makes an extra register available in many
 functions.  It also makes debugging impossible on some machines.


Yes, i use it as well as -O2 -pipe. And i will not go bugreporting with these
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RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #2

2003-07-21 Thread Matthew Gossage
Portage is a god send

Installing proftpd..

Emerge proftpd

Sleep for a mo
Then woot done

Installing lynx

Emerge lynx 

Slep

Then its done



-Original Message-
From: Christopher Fisk [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 July 2003 13:56
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Poll #2

On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, matt gossage wrote:

scaleability, and perfomance

Answered to the e-mail provided.

Has nothing to do with Scaleability, or performance for me.  I guess I
was 
more interested in portage.  Apt seemed like a good idea, but IMO was 
always way behind what was available.  I'm not exactly cutting edge, but
I 
don't want to be using the razor you just threw away because it's so old

either. =)

When I ran Red Hat I always had issues with RPMs not having the right 
libraries installed to get them working.  I was at the point with these 
that I would get the SRPM instead of the RPM and recompile it on the fly

and install from that.  That way you knew when you installed the RPM
that 
everything would work for you.  (Well most of the time).

Gentoo just made it so I'm getting the SRPM everytime.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
On Monday 21 July 2003 05:31, Sebastian Bergmann wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:
  # /etc/skel/.bashrc:
  # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/skel/.bashrc,v 1.8
  #2003/02/28 15:45:35 azarah Exp $

   Those are CVS/RCS ID tags inside a comment. The question is not what
   is azarah but who is azarah, because it shows who edited the file
   last in CVS.

OK- I give up.

If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as a 
partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?

Device =02:50:53
Type= Exp
Size=N/A
Mount Point= azarah
Free=0
Full=N/A

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Robert Crawford wrote:

OK- I give up.

If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as a 
partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?

At a guess, and probably incorrect... Has your editor inserted a newline 
in that header string? A bogus newline in /etc/fstab could cause azarah 
to be a mountpoint...

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Re: [gentoo-user] which Gentoo version for Celeron 566

2003-07-21 Thread William Kenworthy
Hi, I have been asked to install gentoo on a p4 with hyperthreading as
part of a benchmarking series.  I havent been able to find much on
hyperthreading and gcc-3.2.3.  Does it support HT?  what are the best
CFLAGS ?  Does the sse2 bug still exist in this version of gcc?

It looks like an smp kernel is needed - is 2.6 better than 2.4, and
which sources?

BillK

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 16:54, Matthias F. Brandstetter wrote:
 -- quoting Gour --
  I'm planning to switch to Gentoo from SuSE by buying 1.4 Gentoo
  Linux CD set.
 
  What is the correct version for my Celeron 566: i686 or Pentium III
  CdD set?
 
 There isn't a special version of Gentoo. Just grab a x86 LiveCD, boot 
 from it and install as described here [1].
 
 The only important thing for you is that you choose the right gcc 
 compiler flags, so that your compiled code is understandable and 
 optimized for your CPU. More info is avail. here [2].
 
 HTH! Greetins, Matthias
 
 footnote:
 [1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml
 [2] http://www.freehackers.org/gentoo/gccflags/flag_gcc3.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] creating custom instalation cds

2003-07-21 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Matthew Gossage wrote:
Without sounding dumb ...

How ? :-)

-Original Message-
From: Andrew Gaffney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: 21 July 2003 05:11
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] creating custom instalation cds

matt gossage wrote:

Any one know how to produce a custom install cd.

that will install the same packages repeatedly on multiple machines, 
withouth having to fetch them?


You might want to consider creating your own custom stages. You could 
include the portage tree and all the distfiles that you will need. You 
can also include a script that runs the bootstrap and modified all the 
config files and such.
These are the steps I would use to accomplish this. Keep in mind that I 
have never done anything like this, so it is not guaranteed to work.

1. Make a directory to do your work in
mkdir /tmp/newstage
2. Unpack a stage tarball into it
cd /tmp/newstage; tar -xjvpf /path/to/stage1-blah.bz2
3. Chroot into this directory following the install directions
mount -t proc proc /tmp/newstage/proc
cp /etc/resolv.conf /tmp/newstage/etc/resolv.conf
chroot /tmp/newstage /bin/bash
env-update
source /etc/profile
4. Sync the portage tree
emerge sync
5. Download files needed for bootstrap
cd /usr/portage
scripts/bootstrap.sh --fetchonly
6. Download files needed for system
emerge -f system
7. Write a script that performs all the steps of the install
cd /usr/portage
scripts/bootstrap.sh
emerge system
[more lines to setup config files here]
This way, instead of using a default stage tarball, you're using one 
that already has a complete copy of the portage tree and all the files 
that you'll need to build a system with the versions of packages in that 
portage tree. You'd only have to do a few steps yourself to install on 
each machine: make the partitions, unpack your custom stage tarball, 
chroot, edit /etc/make.conf to reflect the hardware your're installing 
on, run your script to automate the rest of the install. Like I said 
before, I have never done anything like this, so take this all with a 
big grain of salt. Anyone who sees any flaws in this or has ways to 
improve upon it, please speak up.

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Re: [gentoo-user] giFT troubles

2003-07-21 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jens Hoffrichter wrote:
On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:53:18PM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:


After reading the latest GWN, I was very excited to learn that I no 
longer had a need to have Windows installed. Finally, a way to access 
the Kazaa network under Linux! But, woe is me

upstairs root # emerge gift-fasttrack-cvs
Calculating dependencies ...done!
emerge (1 of 1) net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 to /
Unpacking source...
* Fetching cvs module giFT-FastTrack into 
/usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
* Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
:pserver:anonymous:@cvs.gift-fasttrack.berlios.de:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
login
Logging in to 
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack
* Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
:pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
update -dP giFT-FastTrack
* Copying giFT-FastTrack from 
/usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
* Source now in /var/tmp/portage/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1/work

Source unpacked.
Running aclocal...
Running autoheader...
configure.ac:16: warning: do not use m4_patsubst: use patsubst or 
m4_bpatsubst
configure.ac:142: warning: do not use m4_regexp: use regexp or m4_bregexp
Running autoconf...
Running libtoolize --automake...
Running automake...
automake-1.5: configure.ac: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE' must be used
automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./missing'
automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./depcomp'

!!! ERROR: net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 32, Exitcode 1
!!! FastTrack configure failed
I had the same error, after a bit of googling around I found that the
autmake script needs =automake 1.6 to use this syntax. But I had automake
1.7 installed, so still no real explanation for the error.
But if you take a look at the automake package, there are different versions
of automake (1.4 - 1.7) installed, and if you call automake (actually, the
wrapper around the different automake versions), you get automake 1.5 by
default.
The am-wrapper.pl script looks (beside some other things) for a environment
variable called WANT_AUTOMAKE. And if you export/whatever your shell needs
for exporting variables this variable to 1.7 (e.g. bash: export WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.7),
you get the right automake version and gift-fasttrack-cvs compiles without
error :)
That worked perfectly. Now, I've got another issue. Why are all the giFT 
clients masked?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Renat Golubchyk
On Monday 21 July 2003 15:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:
 OK- I give up.
 
 If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as a
 partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?

 At a guess, and probably incorrect... Has your editor inserted a newline
 in that header string? A bogus newline in /etc/fstab could cause azarah
 to be a mountpoint...

I just checked the header in my /etc/fstab and as it looks it MUST be a new 
line. Here is the line:

# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11 
02:50:53 azarah Exp $

You see, my KMail broke it exactly at that position, so 02:50:53 is now 
interpreted as the device, azarah as mountpoint Exp is the type of 
filesystem and $ is mount option.

So, I think, Robert has to check his fstab more carefully...
Btw, is it possible that you edited it with nano and forgot the -w switch?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Copying existing installation to new harddrive

2003-07-21 Thread Chris Bare
 
   I set up a GENTOO box for a friend of mine (it's his first Linux
   experience and he is really happy with it) recently.
 
   The box in question has a rather old, small and slow harddrive that he
   wants to exchange in the near future.
 
   Is it possible, and if so, how, to copy the existing GENTOO installation
   to the new harddrive?
 
   TIA,
 Sebastian
 

I did this not long ago and it worked great. The procedure I followed
was to connect both hard drives, then boot off the install cd.
I fdisked the new drive.
I then mounted each of the old partitions under /old and each of the new
partitions under /new.
Then I ran this command to copy the files:

rsync -a --progress /old/ /new

Then I switched cables so the old drive was now hda, booted from the CD
and ran grub on hd0. It booted right up from the new drive after that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Joseph A Nagy Jr
On Monday 21 July 2003 04:33, Bernhard Huber wrote this in an attempt to 
be witty and informative:
 how can i know if the header files and the 'apxs' tool are installed,
 is it automatically , with apache ?
 Where are they ?

Look in either /etc/httpd or /usr/local/apache


 I see, the apxs2 tool, but i need the apxs tool, is it the same ?

Yes.


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[gentoo-user] entranced as graphical login

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Wojcikiewicz
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So I emerged entranced and setup make.conf to use it, but it either wont allow 
me to login at all, or if I disable pam_auth in its edb file, it starts kde 
but only KDesktop nothing else (and nothing else WILL start).. 

Seems its a PAM issue, but I dont know much about PAM.  I've tried copying 
over the xdm PAM file from /etc/pam.d to entrance, but that still results in 
nothing starting after KDesktop has been started. anyone else have this 
successfully setup?.. any hints?

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Re: [gentoo-user] DVD burning

2003-07-21 Thread andrusky
What you'll probably want to do is to go here:

ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/

Download the binary for linux and stick it 
somewhere, ie. /usr/bin. Next take a look at the 
readme, it will tell you that to use the program, 
you need to 'export' a key. My sugestion is to 
make a shell script (call it dvdrecord if you want)
which exports the key and runs the binary. Happpy
burning.

Cheers
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Date: Sunday, July 20, 2003 7:29 pm
Subject: [gentoo-user] DVD burning

 I've just installed a Sony +-R IDE DVD burner.  There are several
 streams of DVD utilities - cdrtools-dvdr, dvd+rw-tools, dvdrtools, and
 perhaps others that I am not yet aware of.
 
 Which tools do I want and why?  Is the stable version of the tools
 adequate, or do I wnt the alpha/unstable versions?
 
 TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Riiping DVD? (was: DVD burning)

2003-07-21 Thread andrusky
You're looking for dvdbackup. Use it to rip off the
files. Then use `mkisofs --dvd-video -o output 
dir` to create a burnable iso.
On this subject. How do I copy a DVD image to my HD?

I've rent Final Fantasy, and I'd like to copy the movie. Something like: 

dd if=/dev/cdroms/cdrom1 of=ffantasy.dvd

But it didn't work.

Any other suggestion?

Many thanks in advance,
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Re: [gentoo-user] giFT troubles

2003-07-21 Thread Paul K. Dickson
giFTcurs is GREAT:)

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 10:28, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Jens Hoffrichter wrote:
  On Sun, Jul 20, 2003 at 11:53:18PM -0500, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
  
  
 After reading the latest GWN, I was very excited to learn that I no 
 longer had a need to have Windows installed. Finally, a way to access 
 the Kazaa network under Linux! But, woe is me
 
 
 upstairs root # emerge gift-fasttrack-cvs
 Calculating dependencies ...done!
 
 emerge (1 of 1) net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 to /
 Unpacking source...
 
  * Fetching cvs module giFT-FastTrack into 
 /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
  * Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
 :pserver:anonymous:@cvs.gift-fasttrack.berlios.de:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
 login
 Logging in to 
 :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:2401/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack
  * Running  cvs -q -f -z4 -d 
 :pserver:[EMAIL PROTECTED]:/cvsroot/gift-fasttrack 
 update -dP giFT-FastTrack
  * Copying giFT-FastTrack from 
 /usr/portage/distfiles/cvs-src/gift-fasttrack-cvs...
  * Source now in /var/tmp/portage/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1/work
 
 Source unpacked.
 
 Running aclocal...
 Running autoheader...
 configure.ac:16: warning: do not use m4_patsubst: use patsubst or 
 m4_bpatsubst
 configure.ac:142: warning: do not use m4_regexp: use regexp or m4_bregexp
 Running autoconf...
 Running libtoolize --automake...
 Running automake...
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: `AM_INIT_AUTOMAKE' must be used
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./install-sh'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./mkinstalldirs'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./missing'
 automake-1.5: configure.ac: installing `./depcomp'
 
 !!! ERROR: net-p2p/gift-fasttrack-cvs-0.8.1 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 32, Exitcode 1
 !!! FastTrack configure failed
  
  I had the same error, after a bit of googling around I found that the
  autmake script needs =automake 1.6 to use this syntax. But I had automake
  1.7 installed, so still no real explanation for the error.
  
  But if you take a look at the automake package, there are different versions
  of automake (1.4 - 1.7) installed, and if you call automake (actually, the
  wrapper around the different automake versions), you get automake 1.5 by
  default.
  
  The am-wrapper.pl script looks (beside some other things) for a environment
  variable called WANT_AUTOMAKE. And if you export/whatever your shell needs
  for exporting variables this variable to 1.7 (e.g. bash: export WANT_AUTOMAKE=1.7),
  you get the right automake version and gift-fasttrack-cvs compiles without
  error :)
 
 That worked perfectly. Now, I've got another issue. Why are all the giFT 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
Ciaran,
That must be it, because here's the top of my fstab file, and it's the 3rd 
line. How could this happen? I am dual-booting with Mandrake, and sharing 
/boot and swap, and I have been mounting and unmounting partitions while I've 
been testing new kernels (if that could have an effect).

# /etc/fstab: static file system information.
# $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
02:50:53 azarah Exp $
#
# noatime turns of atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
# needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage

So I guess just comment it out, or delete it?
Robert C.
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On Monday 21 July 2003 09:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:
 OK- I give up.
 
 If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as a
 partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?

 At a guess, and probably incorrect... Has your editor inserted a newline
 in that header string? A bogus newline in /etc/fstab could cause azarah
 to be a mountpoint...

 Regards,
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RE: [gentoo-user] mail failing to remove the lock file

2003-07-21 Thread Essien Ita Essien

If this doesn't happen to root, then its obviously permissions related.
Maybe the users should belong to a particular group or something like that.
Speaking NON-AUTHORITATIVELY, i would say, figure out any groups related to
the mailing application on you box. Find out what happens if you add a user
to one of the groups.

Also its complaining about not having any child processes, i'm thinking that
this group thingy is preventing /bin/mail from starting any child processes
its trying to start. I'm almost certain that it is group related, but hey
this is a NON-AUTHORITATIVE analysis.

I hope it helps some.

Essien

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] mail failing to remove the lock file



When a normal user quits /bin/mail, the mail application fails to remove
the mail lock file with the error message:

# mail: Cannot remove lockfile /var/mail/gus.lock: No child processes

The same user can (and must) then manually remove the lockfile from
/var/mail/gus.lock

This doesn't happen for root.
What should I look for?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Cups and Samsung ML-1440

2003-07-21 Thread Andrew Farmer
At 20 July, 2003 Andrusky wrote:
 I have a Samsung ML-1440 connected to my parallel port. I'm using cups
 and the lpp-1.0.6.i386.tar.gz drivers provided by Samsung. It was all
 working fine until about a week or two ago (it's been a while since I
 printed something), but know when I send a job to the printer nothing
 happens, ie. the printer just sits there, no lights blink and the job
 is listed as completed. Has anyone else had any problems? And if so,
 any susgestions.

I've had problems like this with a similar printer on my OS X machine.
It seems to be some sort of printer firmware bug - power cycle the
printer and it ought to be fine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread nmeyers
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 11:11:41AM -0400, Robert Crawford wrote:
 Ciaran,
 That must be it, because here's the top of my fstab file, and it's the 3rd 
 line. How could this happen? I am dual-booting with Mandrake, and sharing 
 /boot and swap, and I have been mounting and unmounting partitions while I've 
 been testing new kernels (if that could have an effect).
 
 # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
 02:50:53 azarah Exp $

It's the end of the second line that was somehow broken off into a new
line - possibly by cutting and pasting.

Nathan Meyers
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

 #
 # noatime turns of atimes for increased performance (atimes normally aren't
 # needed; notail increases performance of ReiserFS (at the expense of storage
 
 So I guess just comment it out, or delete it?
 Robert C.
 ---
 On Monday 21 July 2003 09:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
  Robert Crawford wrote:
  OK- I give up.
  
  If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as a
  partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?
 
  At a guess, and probably incorrect... Has your editor inserted a newline
  in that header string? A bogus newline in /etc/fstab could cause azarah
  to be a mountpoint...
 
  Regards,
  Ciaran McCreesh

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RE: [gentoo-user] mail failing to remove the lock file

2003-07-21 Thread Gustav_Schaffter

Essein, thanks for answering.

I have tried to set my single (first) non-root user part of *all* groups,
but it didn't help. I guess it's probably not a question of the users
group. (I've since reset this user to the mail group.)

Do you have /bin/mail installed yourself? (From the mailx package) If so,
what are the owners and permissions on your /bin/mail ?


Biker






   
 
Essien Ita
 
Essien  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]   

[EMAIL PROTECTED]   cc: (bcc: Gustav 
Schaffter/CDS/CG/CAPITAL) 
tainc.com   Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] mail failing 
to remove the lock file
   
 
21-07-2003 
 
12:45  
 
Please respond 
 
to gentoo-user 
 
   
 
   
 





If this doesn't happen to root, then its obviously permissions related.
Maybe the users should belong to a particular group or something like that.
Speaking NON-AUTHORITATIVELY, i would say, figure out any groups related to
the mailing application on you box. Find out what happens if you add a user
to one of the groups.

Also its complaining about not having any child processes, i'm thinking
that
this group thingy is preventing /bin/mail from starting any child processes
its trying to start. I'm almost certain that it is group related, but hey
this is a NON-AUTHORITATIVE analysis.

I hope it helps some.

Essien

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 11:29 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: [gentoo-user] mail failing to remove the lock file



When a normal user quits /bin/mail, the mail application fails to remove
the mail lock file with the error message:

# mail: Cannot remove lockfile /var/mail/gus.lock: No child processes

The same user can (and must) then manually remove the lockfile from
/var/mail/gus.lock

This doesn't happen for root.
What should I look for?

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[gentoo-user] Problem with libquicktime / quicktime4linux

2003-07-21 Thread Thomas Schweikle
Hi!

I've tried to emerge -up --deep world
yew root # emerge -up --deep world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg 
media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)
[blocks B] media-libs/libquicktime (from pkg 
media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1)

I've unmerged both: libquicktime and quicktime4linux. Now:
yew root # emerge -up --deep world

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1

emerge want's to install both of them! I've looked into world, but I 
couldn't find them there. Now: how to get out of this circle? Whatever I 
install. One blocks the other and some programms seem to want libquicktime 
others quicktime4linux.

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[gentoo-user] Madness with File-Spec. I'm in shock. ;(

2003-07-21 Thread Alex Radetsky

 
 How I can fix it? 

[EMAIL PROTECTED] rad # emerge dev-perl/File-Spec
Calculating dependencies ...done!
 emerge (1 of 1) dev-perl/File-Spec-0.82 to /
 md5 src_uri ;-) File-Spec-0.82.tar.gz
 Unpacking source...
 Unpacking File-Spec-0.82.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/File-Spec-0.82/work
 Source unpacked.
Can't locate File/Spec.pm in @INC (@INC contains: /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/i686-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux 
/usr/lib/perl5/site_perl/5.8.0 /usr/lib/perl5/site_perl 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0/i686-linux /usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl/5.8.0 
/usr/lib/perl5/vendor_perl .) at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist.pm line 6.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ExtUtils/Liblist.pm line 6.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ExtUtils/MM.pm line 8.
Compilation failed in require at /usr/lib/perl5/5.8.0/ExtUtils/MakeMaker.pm line 34.
Compilation failed in require at Makefile.PL line 1.
BEGIN failed--compilation aborted at Makefile.PL line 1.
make: *** No targets specified and no makefile found.  Stop.

!!! ERROR: dev-perl/File-Spec-0.82 failed.
!!! Function perl-module_src_compile, Line 42, Exitcode 2
!!! compilation failed


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Robert Crawford wrote:

That must be it, because here's the top of my fstab file, and it's the 3rd 
line. How could this happen? I am dual-booting with Mandrake, and sharing 
/boot and swap, and I have been mounting and unmounting partitions while I've been testing new kernels (if that could have an effect).
 

I believe nano will automagically screw your line endings up, erm, I 
mean wrap your text unless you pass it the -w option. Maybe you did that 
during the install, before you emerged a real editor?

You're fine just commenting out the line, or you could delete the header 
entirely.

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Re: [gentoo-user] entranced as graphical login

2003-07-21 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Mike Wojcikiewicz wrote:
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So I emerged entranced and setup make.conf to use it, but it either wont allow 
me to login at all, or if I disable pam_auth in its edb file, it starts kde 
but only KDesktop nothing else (and nothing else WILL start).. 

Seems its a PAM issue, but I dont know much about PAM.  I've tried copying 
over the xdm PAM file from /etc/pam.d to entrance, but that still results in 
nothing starting after KDesktop has been started. anyone else have this 
successfully setup?.. any hints?
I've not experienced these problems.  However, please note that 
entranced is still a very young product and under heavy development.  It 
is also rc.conf where you specify entrance and not make.conf.  I believe 
in one of the e17 utilities you can specify what login manager options 
it provides and the command it executes too although I can't remember it 
at this moment.

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[gentoo-user] Jedit problem

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Bellemare
Hi, setting up my laptop for school uses, i had to emerge jedit to work on my java 
homework.
but i encounter a strange problem when merging it...here's the error message:

=== (1 of 1) Compiling/Merging 
(/usr/portage/app-editors/jedit/jedit-4.1.ebuild)Exception in thread main 
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org/apache/tools/ant/Main

!!! ERROR: app-editors/jedit-4.1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 32, Exitcode 1
!!! compile problem


anyone ever seen this?
thanks for answering

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with libquicktime / quicktime4linux

2003-07-21 Thread Dhruba Bandopadhyay
Thomas Schweikle wrote:
Hi!

I've tried to emerge -up --deep world
yew root # emerge -up --deep world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg 
media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)
[blocks B] media-libs/libquicktime (from pkg 
media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1)

I've unmerged both: libquicktime and quicktime4linux. Now:
yew root # emerge -up --deep world
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1
[ebuild  N   ] media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1
emerge want's to install both of them! I've looked into world, but I 
couldn't find them there. Now: how to get out of this circle? Whatever I 
install. One blocks the other and some programms seem to want libquicktime 
others quicktime4linux.

Find out what depends on each package.

emerge gentoolkit
etcat -d libquicktime
etcat -d quicktime4linux
Then decide what you want to do with packages in the output.  Also run 
regenworld to update world file.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
On Monday 21 July 2003 10:25, Renat Golubchyk wrote:
 On Monday 21 July 2003 15:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
  Robert Crawford wrote:
  OK- I give up.
  
  If Azarah is a person, why is he showing up as a storage device, and as
   a partition in kde control center information? What am I missing here?
 
  At a guess, and probably incorrect... Has your editor inserted a newline
  in that header string? A bogus newline in /etc/fstab could cause azarah
  to be a mountpoint...

 I just checked the header in my /etc/fstab and as it looks it MUST be a new
 line. Here is the line:

 # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12 2003/03/11
 02:50:53 azarah Exp $

 You see, my KMail broke it exactly at that position, so 02:50:53 is now
 interpreted as the device, azarah as mountpoint Exp is the type of
 filesystem and $ is mount option.

 So, I think, Robert has to check his fstab more carefully...
 Btw, is it possible that you edited it with nano and forgot the -w
 switch?


 Cheers,
 Renat

Renat,
Yeah- I did edit the shared lilo on the MDK hda6 partition with nano while 
booted to Gentoo after I compiled 2.6.0-test1, and mounted the shared /boot 
to copy the bzImage. And I did forget the -w switch when I opened lilo! Well, 
I'm learning, slowly but surely. Thanks for the info!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
On Monday 21 July 2003 11:24, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 11:11:41AM -0400, Robert Crawford wrote:
  Ciaran,
  That must be it, because here's the top of my fstab file, and it's the
  3rd line. How could this happen? I am dual-booting with Mandrake, and
  sharing /boot and swap, and I have been mounting and unmounting
  partitions while I've been testing new kernels (if that could have an
  effect).
 
  # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
  # $Header: /home/cvsroot/gentoo-src/rc-scripts/etc/fstab,v 1.12
  2003/03/11 02:50:53 azarah Exp $

 It's the end of the second line that was somehow broken off into a new
 line - possibly by cutting and pasting.

 Nathan Meyers
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]

AHA! So that's what happened. I did edit fstab  so I could mount my MDK 
partitions from Gentoo- I must have caused it then.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What is azarah

2003-07-21 Thread Robert Crawford
On Monday 21 July 2003 11:47, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 Robert Crawford wrote:
 That must be it, because here's the top of my fstab file, and it's the 3rd
 line. How could this happen? I am dual-booting with Mandrake, and sharing
 /boot and swap, and I have been mounting and unmounting partitions while
  I've been testing new kernels (if that could have an effect).

 I believe nano will automagically screw your line endings up, erm, I
 mean wrap your text unless you pass it the -w option. Maybe you did that
 during the install, before you emerged a real editor?

 You're fine just commenting out the line, or you could delete the header
 entirely.

 Regards,
 --
 Ciaran McCreesh


Thanks everyone! Appreciate the info.

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[gentoo-user] Portage 2.0.48-r5 borked?

2003-07-21 Thread Richard Watson

Hi all,

Just upgraded to 2.0.48-r5 and I'm having some weird things happen. If
I do emerge -Up world I get some oddities:

[ebuildUD] net-im/gaim-0.63-r1 [0.64] 

doesn't -U prohibit downgrades? and:

[ebuildU ] media-gfx/gimp-1.2.4 [1.3.15] 

(isn't 1.3.15 a downgrade, not an upgrade?)

Anyone else having similar problems?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Madness with File-Spec. I'm in shock. ;(

2003-07-21 Thread Ian Truelsen
On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 18:45:02 +0300
Alex Radetsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
  
  How I can fix it? 
 
My first inclination would be to re-emerge perl and then try again.

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[gentoo-user] comments on ebuilds

2003-07-21 Thread Mike Bellemare
is there a place where gentoo users can rate the several programs that are in the 
portage tree?...like on the online package database accessible from the website, when 
you click on a package theres a rating or things like that ( a little like on Cnet) so 
other gentoo users could be guided when looking for a particular kind of software.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.0.48-r5 borked?

2003-07-21 Thread Jeremy Workman
On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 12:14, Richard Watson wrote:

 [ebuildU ] media-gfx/gimp-1.2.4 [1.3.15] 
 
 (isn't 1.3.15 a downgrade, not an upgrade?)

This one is normal. Both GIMP 1.2.x and 1.3.x can be installed, 1.3.15
won't be removed. The 1.3 executable is installed as gimp-1.3.



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[gentoo-user] can not start apache - undefined symbol: Perl_Ipatchlevel_ptr

2003-07-21 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
I recently did a emerge -U world and after that I can not start apache 
(1.3.27) .. it gives 
me this error 


Syntax error on line 60 of /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf:
Cannot load /etc/apache/extramodules/libperl.so into server: 
/etc/apache/extramodules/libperl.so: undefined symbol: 
Perl_Ipatchlevel_ptr 


How can I fix this ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] pcmcia-cs and network failure

2003-07-21 Thread Håvard Wall
Bill Spears wrote:
 #ifconfig eth0 up
 returns
 eth0: unknown interface: No such device

 My context is:
   A laptop with pcmcia support not set in kernel and emerge pcmcia-cs
 done.
   lsmod shows all the basic stuff:
 ds, pcmcia_core, i82365, xirc2ps_cs
 oddly, xirc2ps_cs is shown as 'unused'
  When booting, cardmgr is starting, but fails to bring up eth0.

   History is:
 Had it all working with previous kernel.  Redid kernel to kill acpi
 and add apm, also unset smp. {{may have inadvertently done something
 fatal?}}
 Although, I don't understand why, I did: emerge pcmcia-cs again.

 Any ideas?


What kind of network card do you have? If it based on the Realtek 8139
chip, take a look at
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=56473highlight=8139too
In that case you probably have to use the kernel pcmcia support and not
pcmcia-cs. I did this myself and it worked perfectly... until I added
support for an usb mouse. It then stopped to function again and I now
have to physically pull out the network card and put it back in again
before manually running /etc/init.d/net.eth0 start. Annoying!
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Re: [gentoo-user] comments on ebuilds

2003-07-21 Thread Marius Mauch
On 07/21/03  Mike Bellemare wrote:

 is there a place where gentoo users can rate the several programs that
 are in the portage tree?...like on the online package database
 accessible from the website, when you click on a package theres a
 rating or things like that ( a little like on Cnet) so other gentoo
 users could be guided when looking for a particular kind of software.

http://stable.gentoo.org

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[gentoo-user] gentoo raid5

2003-07-21 Thread Frank R Callaghan
Hi,

I have a system I'm trying out gentoo on, it have a raid5 setup (s/w)
I have got to the installing of lilo but having chrooted to setup
everthing lilo cannot see the /dev/md0 device ! 
what is the correct way around this ? can I just cross mount /dev ?

TIA,
Frank.



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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo raid5

2003-07-21 Thread Paul K. Dickson
mount -o bind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev ??

On Mon, 2003-07-21 at 12:54, Frank R Callaghan wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I have a system I'm trying out gentoo on, it have a raid5 setup (s/w)
 I have got to the installing of lilo but having chrooted to setup
 everthing lilo cannot see the /dev/md0 device ! 
 what is the correct way around this ? can I just cross mount /dev ?
 
 TIA,
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo raid5

2003-07-21 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
Frank R Callaghan wrote:

I have a system I'm trying out gentoo on, it have a raid5 setup (s/w)
I have got to the installing of lilo but having chrooted to setup
everthing lilo cannot see the /dev/md0 device ! 
what is the correct way around this ? can I just cross mount /dev ?
 

I had a similar problem when installing on an IDE raid0 (pdcraid) box. I 
believe there are two possibilities:

* Make a lilo boot floppy. Use this to boot into your real system, where 
you will have a real /dev . Re-emerge lilo (not sure if this is 
necessary), check your lilo.conf and install properly. Reboot again just 
to make sure it worked. I believe that this was what the Install Guide 
recommended (this was a while back...).

* Exit your chroot. mount -obind /dev /mnt/gentoo/dev . Re-enter your 
chroot. You now have the same /dev as the install CD, so hopefully lilo 
will be happy. I did it this way because I didn't have a floppy drive handy.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache

2003-07-21 Thread Timo Boettcher
Hi Matthias,

Nachricht vom Montag, 21. Juli 2003, 12:28:46:

 -- quoting Bernhard Huber --
 no, it was not a reply ..

 Strange, because I can see your message as a reply to the thread 
 which Gentoo version for Celeron 566. Maybe my kmail thread the 
 mails wrong? But I had no problems so far...

 Does anybody else see Bernhard's Apache mail as an reply or is it 
 just me? If so, then sorry Bernhard!
TheBat! shows it as a reply, too.

 Greetings, Matthias


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[gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Shane Hickey
Howdy all, I was having problems with Galeon and dependencies on mozilla
 1.4 and portage wanting to upgrade me to mozilla 1.4.  So, I got off
the merry-go-round and emerge'd galeon-cvs from breakmygentoo.net.  Ugh.

If this is the future of galeon, then I need to find a new browser. 
After having to run gconf-editor to get my middle-mouse button paste
functionality back, I surfed around to get a feel for the new Galeon.  I
don't know if it's just me, but it's slow as all get out.

I had Mozilla up in another window and it would load the same page 5-7
seconds (yes, I said seconds) faster than Galeon.

So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers.  I'm
running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.  The only reason I was
running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs and the google,
freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the heck you call
those).  

Any tips would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread brett holcomb
You might try firebird (mozilla-firebird).  So far it 
seems to work well.  I gave up on Mozilla because of the 
bloat but Firebird is the browser only version of Mozilla. 
From what I can figure out the Mozilla people are going 
to separate the components (browser, etc.).

FB has tabs and allows quicklinks.  I have Ask Jeeves set 
up so I type aj something and it returns it's findings for 
something.  You can do the same with almost any site.

On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:32:24 -0600
 Shane Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy all, I was having problems with Galeon and 
dependencies on mozilla
So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good 
browsers.  I'm
running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.  The 
only reason I was
running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs 
and the google,
freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the 
heck you call
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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Karl-Heinz Zimmer
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On Monday 21 July 2003 19:32, Shane Hickey wrote:

 So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers. I'm
 running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.

just an idea: Your longing a realy good browser might be a good reason to
  consider giving KDE a try.

This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!

Even if you don't look for anything 'fancy' you might still be interested 
using Konqueror: just because of its cappability to correctly display
more HTML pages than most other browsers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Matt Broughton
Mozilla all the way :)


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On Monday 21 July 2003 19:32, Shane Hickey wrote:

 So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers. I'm
 running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.

just an idea: Your longing a realy good browser might be a good reason to
  consider giving KDE a try.

This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!

Even if you don't look for anything 'fancy' you might still be interested 
using Konqueror: just because of its cappability to correctly display
more HTML pages than most other browsers.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Weirdness with new firebird ebuild

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Gramatke
Susie wrote:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg
 media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)
 [ebuildU ] net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.6-r6 [0.6-r5] +java +gtk2
 - -ipv6
 [blocks B] =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 (from pkg
 x11-libs/xft-2.0.1-r2)
 [ebuildU ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69-r1 [5.69]
 
 
 Ok anyone else getting it doing this?

I get something similar, after each emerge -upD world:

[blocks B] media-libs/libquicktime (from pkg
media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1)
[blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg
media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)

A blocks B and B blocks A and I have no clue how to fix this. I already
unmerged one or both and re-emerged only one of them, but after an emerge
update world the conflict is back.

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Joe Budzynski
I would definately recommend Mozilla-Firebird.  It's very customizable, 
with tons of themes and many different types of extensions to do a lot 
of cool things.  :-)

Shane Hickey wrote:
Howdy all, I was having problems with Galeon and dependencies on mozilla
 1.4 and portage wanting to upgrade me to mozilla 1.4.  So, I got off
the merry-go-round and emerge'd galeon-cvs from breakmygentoo.net.  Ugh.
If this is the future of galeon, then I need to find a new browser. 
After having to run gconf-editor to get my middle-mouse button paste
functionality back, I surfed around to get a feel for the new Galeon.  I
don't know if it's just me, but it's slow as all get out.

I had Mozilla up in another window and it would load the same page 5-7
seconds (yes, I said seconds) faster than Galeon.
So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers.  I'm
running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.  The only reason I was
running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs and the google,
freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the heck you call
those).  

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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Susie
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On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:32:24 -0600
Shane Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers.  I'm
 running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.  The only reason I
 was running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs and the
 google, freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the heck
 you call those).  

I'm running openbox and xfce4.  The two browsers I used are firebird and
opera.  But if your having issues with mozilla firebird would be
pointless as it is a branch of mozilla.  Opera 7.11 is good tho I
believe it's masked.  Also if you want something more simple and don't
care on plugins get Links which is like lynx but can run in graphical
mode.  It does render tables, images, etc in graphic mode and I think
also works fine with java but more complex plugins like flash will not
work with it.  In text mode it doesn't render images but does do tables
and other things.(links does use svgalib depending on your options on
compile but I think it is the default on).  

With opera it tabs, it has popup blocking, it runs all the well known
plugins.(anything moz or netscape varients will run), it has a search
box or you can use a letter switch and comment in the url field and it
will search via that.  If you could run a mozilla varient search wise
I'd recommend mycroft addon.

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Re: [gentoo-user] can not start apache - undefined symbol: Perl_Ipatchlevel_ptr

2003-07-21 Thread Ryan Phillips
Most likely reason is that perl was upgraded... try remerging apache.

-ryan

* R'twick Niceorgaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2003-07-21 03:15]:
 I recently did a emerge -U world and after that I can not start apache 
 (1.3.27) .. it gives 
 me this error 
 
 
 Syntax error on line 60 of /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf:
 Cannot load /etc/apache/extramodules/libperl.so into server: 
 /etc/apache/extramodules/libperl.so: undefined symbol: 
 Perl_Ipatchlevel_ptr 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

I would try opera.
It is fast, it is stable and has tabbed browsing and intuitiv mouse gestures.

Glück Auf
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[gentoo-user] Re: Weirdness with new firebird ebuild

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Gramatke
Martin Gramatke wrote:

 Susie wrote:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg
 media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)
 [ebuildU ] net-www/mozilla-firebird-0.6-r6 [0.6-r5] +java +gtk2
 - -ipv6
 [blocks B] =x11-base/xfree-4.3.0-r2 (from pkg
 x11-libs/xft-2.0.1-r2)
 [ebuildU ] dev-perl/libwww-perl-5.69-r1 [5.69]

 I get something similar, after each emerge -upD world:
 
 [blocks B] media-libs/libquicktime (from pkg
 media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1)
 [blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg
 media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)

I found the cause of my quicktime trouble. There is a USE flag 'quicktime'.
When you set it, 'emerge -u world' emerges libquicktime and quicktime4linux
automatically. On the other side there must have been an update of these
packages that marks the other one as exclusive alternative. I hope this
helps you a bit with one your problems.
Why xfree 4.3.0 is blocked by xft, I don't know. Maybe this is some kind of
progress and xfree doesn't tolerate that freetype library any more. I don't
have it anyway. Possibly you simply remove xft.

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[gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Gramatke
Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:

 This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!

Konquerer is simply marvellous. I recommend that one too.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Alan
On Mon, Jul 21, 2003 at 08:03:30PM +0200, Martin Gramatke wrote:
 Karl-Heinz Zimmer wrote:
 
  This would gain you Konqueror - on of the best browsers in the game!
 
 Konquerer is simply marvellous. I recommend that one too.

The only issue with Konq is that if you are a gnome user you have to
have all the KDE processes that it starts up (dcop, etc).  If you're a
KDE user of course, they are already there.

alan

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[gentoo-user] Re: Problem with libquicktime / quicktime4linux

2003-07-21 Thread Martin Gramatke
Thomas Schweikle wrote:

 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [blocks B] media-libs/quicktime4linux (from pkg
 media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1)
 [blocks B] media-libs/libquicktime (from pkg
 media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1)

 I've unmerged both: libquicktime and quicktime4linux. Now:
 yew root # emerge -up --deep world
 
 These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
 Calculating world dependencies ...done!
 [ebuild  N   ] media-libs/libquicktime-0.9.2_pre1
 [ebuild  N   ] media-libs/quicktime4linux-1.5.5-r1

Remove the quicktime USE flag. I highly recommend the 'ufed' tool to do so.
I thing someone should file in a bug report.

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[gentoo-user] bootstrap bug???

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Hosiawa
I'm trying to install gentoo from stage1 but when I get to the part
scripts/bootstrap.sh the following error occurs:

configure: error: /bin/sh '.configure' failed for autoconf-lib-link

!!! Error: sys-devel/gettext-0.12.1
!!! Function econf, Line 320, Exitcode 1
!!! econf failed

Could this be a bug or am I doing something wrong? I tried using the
default make.conf to see if it would fix it and it did, but I think
that's because it was using gettext-0.11.5

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Re: [gentoo-user] can not start apache - undefined symbol: Perl_Ipatchlevel_ptr

2003-07-21 Thread R'twick Niceorgaw
On 21 Jul 2003 at 4:12, Ryan Phillips wrote:

 Most likely reason is that perl was upgraded... try remerging apache.
 
 -ryan
Tried 
emerge  apache  mod_perl
same problem

emerge unmerge perl
emerge perl
emerge apache mod_perl

Again same problem 

Any other ideas ?


 
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  (1.3.27) .. it gives  me this errorSyntax error on line 60
 of /etc/apache/conf/apache.conf:  Cannot load
 /etc/apache/extramodules/libperl.so into server: 
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Re: [gentoo-user] entranced as graphical login

2003-07-21 Thread Raimar Sandner

Not an answer to your problem, but another bug related to entrance.
I cannot type any special characters (like #|@ etc) in the user
and password prompt. I think these characters are really missing
(not hidden), because hitting backspace immediately deletes the last
visible character.
Anyone else having this?

Greetings
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[gentoo-user] Tiger MP S2460 and lm_sensors

2003-07-21 Thread Tom Wesley
Hi all,

Has anyone been able to get the above to work without freezing the system, and 
giving some meaningful results?

So far I have found that the proper modprobe sequence is:

  modprobe i2c-dev 
  modprobe w83781d init=0 force_subclients=0,0x2c,0x4a,0x4b
  modprobe i2c-amd756

And this at least doesn't lock the system solid, but it gives many alarms in 
the sensors, and I am reasonly certain that they should not be alarming.
Does anyone else have the same board?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] decent browser?

2003-07-21 Thread Kurt Bechstein
You might also want to try out Epiphany.  It's still very early in
development but show a lot of potential.  I believe it is being
developed by the people who originally started the galeon project.  It
is in portage but I belive it is masked but worth a try.



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 On Mon, 21 Jul 2003 11:32:24 -0600
 Shane Hickey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  So, I was wondering if people could recommend some good browsers.  I'm
  running fluxbox, so I don't need anything fancy.  The only reason I
  was running Galeon was because I really, really dig the tabs and the
  google, freshmeat and dictionary quickstart links (whatever the heck
  you call those).  
 
 I'm running openbox and xfce4.  The two browsers I used are firebird and
 opera.  But if your having issues with mozilla firebird would be
 pointless as it is a branch of mozilla.  Opera 7.11 is good tho I
 believe it's masked.  Also if you want something more simple and don't
 care on plugins get Links which is like lynx but can run in graphical
 mode.  It does render tables, images, etc in graphic mode and I think
 also works fine with java but more complex plugins like flash will not
 work with it.  In text mode it doesn't render images but does do tables
 and other things.(links does use svgalib depending on your options on
 compile but I think it is the default on).  
 
 With opera it tabs, it has popup blocking, it runs all the well known
 plugins.(anything moz or netscape varients will run), it has a search
 box or you can use a letter switch and comment in the url field and it
 will search via that.  If you could run a mozilla varient search wise
 I'd recommend mycroft addon.
 
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[gentoo-user] sun java-j2sdk 1.4.2 problem

2003-07-21 Thread Svein Harald Soleim
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yeah I know that its no ebuild of this one, and thats the problem.
I need it you see, so I downloaded it from sun and unemerged blackdown since I 
didn't need it anymore. But sadly gentoo wont recognice the new java. (since 
no emerge) and I can't even force it with java-config. So therefor I get this 
when I take an emerge -Dup world:

[ebuild  N   ] dev-java/blackdown-jdk-1.4.1

so the question is how do I make an ebuild package of my sun java sdk, or just 
simply tell emerge that java is installed?


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