Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-newbie - Install fails
Joseph A. Nagy, Jr. wrote: Doloaded latest isos, booted, followed instructions. It unpacks portage-2.0.49.r15.tar.bz2, starts to compile it but fails with an error - undefined symbol xxmalloc_set_program_name. I'm having a similar problem with emerging the latest portage. Perhaps that's why bootstrap.sh fails? If so I need to run emerge portage /portage.out 21 on it, too. I 'emerge portage'-ed but it failed to patch. It seemed to be unpacking and configuring sys-devel/patch2.5.9 But this failes with a message ... see config.log So I look in here - the configure has broken with a compile, and once again the error is - undefined symbol xxmalloc_set_program_name. *sigh* -kt -- Kingsley Turner, (mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://MadDogsBreakfast.com - Travel Tales: The good, bad, and down-right ugly -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo up and running
After TWO WEEKS!!! of emerging and such, I can finally log into a graphical user interface (Genome) on my Gentoo laptop. I am typing this on my Main desktop running RH9. I am a sort of Newbie that converted a while back. RH is so easy to install (took 45 minutes) and use. Gentoo, on the other hand, has been compiling code for 14 days straight on a K6-2 500 laptop. I couldn't get KDE to emerge properly. Gnome took about 20 or so tries. It would fail on certain packages. I just retyped the command and prayed. Most of the time that worked. The error messages were always cryptic and google is an old friend. I couldn't get xscreensave to emerge. I said screw it and moved on. I just wanted to to see a login screen. Well, eventhough I set it up to run GDM as the login manager, xdm still runs. I just log in twice. I think I will wipe the system and start over again. I started from stage 1. Next time will be stage 3. I don't see putting Gentoo on my main system just yet. RH9 is so convenient with RPMs and now APT-GET. Maybe when I lose the n00b status, I will upgrade to Gentoo. -Joseph -- There is no place like 127.0.0.1 Digitally signed http://joseph.eaton.net/eaton.gpg -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/ED/CC d s: a- C++ UL P+ L++ E W+++ N+++ o K- w O-- M- V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t- 5- X+ R- tv+ b+ DI+++ D++ G e+ h* r* z? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo up and running
Gentoo is learning experiance. I would actually attempt to repair the system you have, rather than restart as otherwise, you are likely to repeat the very same mistakes. I have found that applying redhat-ism's to gentoo can cause some severe problems as there some fundamental differences. Excessive build time: check out ccache and distcc (both of which will run on redhat, and chroot builds on the redhat system. xdm/gdm: sounds like rc.conf is misconfigured, or you are trying to start xdm/gdm manually, and not via the proper scripts? BillK On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:55, Joseph Eaton wrote: After TWO WEEKS!!! of emerging and such, I can finally log into a graphical user interface (Genome) on my Gentoo laptop. I am typing this on my Main desktop running RH9. I am a sort of Newbie that converted a while back. RH is so easy to install (took 45 minutes) and use. Gentoo, on the other hand, has been compiling code for 14 days straight on a K6-2 500 laptop. I couldn't get KDE to emerge properly. Gnome took about 20 or so tries. It would fail on certain packages. I just retyped the command and prayed. Most of the time that worked. The error messages were always cryptic and google is an old friend. I couldn't get xscreensave to emerge. I said screw it and moved on. I just wanted to to see a login screen. Well, eventhough I set it up to run GDM as the login manager, xdm still runs. I just log in twice. I think I will wipe the system and start over again. I started from stage 1. Next time will be stage 3. I don't see putting Gentoo on my main system just yet. RH9 is so convenient with RPMs and now APT-GET. Maybe when I lose the n00b status, I will upgrade to Gentoo. -Joseph -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Israeli Processor Computes at Speed of Light
Lotas T Smartman wrote: We can only dream! Is that before of after you choke on price :) -- Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo up and running
I figured out the xdm/gdm problems. Forgot to un-comment the lines. Yeah, the old Compaq lappy is my test mule. I have a new Sony ultra-portable that serves as my main travel companion. WinXP is staying on that until the Centrino drivers are more mature. I will check those other things in regards to my slow build time. I just thought it was a 500MHz proc and 96MB RAM. On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 20:06, William Kenworthy wrote: Gentoo is learning experiance. I would actually attempt to repair the system you have, rather than restart as otherwise, you are likely to repeat the very same mistakes. I have found that applying redhat-ism's to gentoo can cause some severe problems as there some fundamental differences. Excessive build time: check out ccache and distcc (both of which will run on redhat, and chroot builds on the redhat system. xdm/gdm: sounds like rc.conf is misconfigured, or you are trying to start xdm/gdm manually, and not via the proper scripts? BillK On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:55, Joseph Eaton wrote: After TWO WEEKS!!! of emerging and such, I can finally log into a graphical user interface (Genome) on my Gentoo laptop. I am typing this on my Main desktop running RH9. I am a sort of Newbie that converted a while back. RH is so easy to install (took 45 minutes) and use. Gentoo, on the other hand, has been compiling code for 14 days straight on a K6-2 500 laptop. I couldn't get KDE to emerge properly. Gnome took about 20 or so tries. It would fail on certain packages. I just retyped the command and prayed. Most of the time that worked. The error messages were always cryptic and google is an old friend. I couldn't get xscreensave to emerge. I said screw it and moved on. I just wanted to to see a login screen. Well, eventhough I set it up to run GDM as the login manager, xdm still runs. I just log in twice. I think I will wipe the system and start over again. I started from stage 1. Next time will be stage 3. I don't see putting Gentoo on my main system just yet. RH9 is so convenient with RPMs and now APT-GET. Maybe when I lose the n00b status, I will upgrade to Gentoo. -Joseph -- There is no place like 127.0.0.1 Digitally signed http://joseph.eaton.net/eaton.gpg -BEGIN GEEK CODE BLOCK- Version: 3.12 GCS/ED/CC d s: a- C++ UL P+ L++ E W+++ N+++ o K- w O-- M- V PS+ PE++ Y+ PGP t- 5- X+ R- tv+ b+ DI+++ D++ G e+ h* r* z? --END GEEK CODE BLOCK-- signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
hi everyone, i'm trying to get my gentoo box running as a firewall and nat-router for my home-network. therefore i took the iptables-example script as seen in the gentoo security guide (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml#doc_chap12) and modified it a little. the server is able to establish an adsl-connection and lynx has no prob to surf the net. the firewall script is started and from inside the network i can easily access the server (192.168.0.1) via ssh, but theres no response to pings from e.g. 192.168.0.121 . the server itself is not able to make pings and get a strange error message: *** tux root # ping www.google.com PING www.google.akadns.net (216.239.59.99) 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted --- www.google.akadns.net ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms *** my firewallscript is attached to this mail. i do not see a mistake or something in that script. btw another strange behavior: yesterday the nat routing suddenly ran for about 10 minutes without changing the script (as i can remember). i am thankful for every little hint :) simon #!/sbin/runscript IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables IPTABLESSAVE=/sbin/iptables-save IPTABLESRESTORE=/sbin/iptables-restore FIREWALL=/etc/firewall.rules DNS1=145.253.2.11 DNS2=145.253.2.75 #inside IINTERFACE=eth0 #outside OINTERFACE=ppp0 opts=${opts} showstatus panic save restore showoptions rules depend() { need net procparam } rules() { stop ebegin Setting internal rules einfo Setting default rule to drop $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP $IPTABLES -P INPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT DROP #default rule einfo Creating states chain $IPTABLES -N allowed-connection $IPTABLES -F allowed-connection $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -i $IINTERFACE -m limit -j LOG --log-prefix Bad packet from ${IINTERFACE}: $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -j DROP #ICMP traffic einfo Creating icmp chain $IPTABLES -N icmp_allowed $IPTABLES -F icmp_allowed $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -m state --state NEW -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -m state --state NEW -p icmp --icmp-type destination-unreachable -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -p icmp -j LOG --log-prefix Bad ICMP traffic: $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -p icmp -j DROP #Incoming traffic einfo Creating incoming ssh traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-ssh-traffic-in $IPTABLES -F allow-ssh-traffic-in #Flood protection $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL RST --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT #outgoing traffic einfo Creating outgoing ssh traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-ssh-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-ssh-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-out -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT einfo Creating outgoing dns traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-dns-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-dns-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-dns-traffic-out -p udp -d $DNS1 --dport domain -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-dns-traffic-out -p udp -d $DNS2 --dport domain -j ACCEPT einfo Creating outgoing http/https traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-www-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-www-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-www-traffic-out -p tcp --dport www -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-www-traffic-out -p tcp --dport https -j ACCEPT #Catch portscanners einfo Creating portscan detection chain $IPTABLES -N check-flags $IPTABLES -F check-flags $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level alert --log-prefix NMAP-XMAS: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH -j DROP $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ALL -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level 1 --log-prefix XMAS: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL ALL -j DROP $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN,RST,ACK,FIN,URG -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level 1 --log-prefix XMAS-PSH: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN,RST,ACK,FIN,URG -j DROP $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level 1 --log-prefix NULL_SCAN: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL NONE -j DROP $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level 5 --log-prefix SYN/RST: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags SYN,RST SYN,RST
[gentoo-user] portage wants 2.6.0-test8??
Hi all, Recently I've had a problem with portage wanting to install development-sources-2.6.0_beta8: emerge -uDp world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.0_beta8 [ebuild N] x11-misc/karamba-0.17-r1 [ebuild N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r2 [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.48 [2.0.47-r1] [ebuild N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.1_pre2 [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] [ebuild N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/pure-ftpd-1.0.16c [1.0.16b] But `etcat -d development-sources` returns nothing. My guess is that it's connected to the alsa vitual. Does anyone know how I can check this? -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo up and running
--- Joseph Eaton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I figured out the xdm/gdm problems. Forgot to un-comment the lines. Yeah, the old Compaq lappy is my test mule. I have a new Sony ultra-portable that serves as my main travel companion. WinXP is staying on that until the Centrino drivers are more mature. I will check those other things in regards to my slow build time. I just thought it was a 500MHz proc and 96MB RAM. Stage 3 is a good place to begin Joseph. If you run into sparodic issues durning a stage 1 install it can slowly but surely beatdown your Gentoo Moral. Having a fast internet connection is a plus of course. A slow connection only addes to frustration for me. I did a stage 3 via dial-up and it took me just about 3 days to get everything updated and tweeked. I've never been happier. I was used Mandrake as my first dist and just couldn't stand the rpm madness. Anytime I wanted to upgrade something it was a nightmare trying to figure out dependency problems. The nice thing with Gentoo is its compiling everything you download to your specific spec's. I know you know this but anyways just in case. Say you want to install Gaim for instance. Gentoo tells you everything you need or whats dependent to get that build and downloads, installs and compiles everthing in the proper order. Plus your able to keep up with the software you work with and at the stable pace that packages are made stable and available. This feature alone rules. I'm running KDE 3.1.4 while most of my engineering buddies are at something pre 3. Can't even remeber now. Ofcourse you can live on the edge and download dev stuff thats unstable if you half to have the bleeding edge releases. I've chosen to stick with stable by default. Linux is a never ending learning experience for me and gobbles up a ton of my time when I have to trouble shoot something. So stable is good for me. Ofcourse I had to learn that the hard way. Heh.. I hope that your next install goes smoother. You have this list and the Gentoo web forum if google ain't helpin. Oh ya, the email list archvies can be found at: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2 HTH's a little, Joshua Banks __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuild x11-libs/openmotif broken?
Hi! trying to build x11-libs/openmotif I receive the following error: /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:1655: parse error before XmConvertCallbackStruct send.c: In function `WSMSendMessage': send.c:92: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetTimestamp' make[3]: *** [send.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm/WmW smLib' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 38, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed Is this ebuild broken at the moment? -- Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
Simon, Save your self allot of time and headakeee and download emerge -p shorewall Shorewall firewall. IPtables made easy. This site is well maintained has a great mailing list and awesome easy to follow FAQ's for Standalone workstation, 2 nic's and 3 nic setup with DMZ. Shorewall is very light wheight and is a full featured statefull packet filtering firewall that uses a series of simple shell scripts to take all the (masacostic fun) our of configuring iptables line by line, word by word. http://www.shorewall.net Unless you trying to learn iptables ofcourse.. Heh. :P JBanks --- Simon_Kühling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi everyone, i'm trying to get my gentoo box running as a firewall and nat-router for my home-network. therefore i took the iptables-example script as seen in the gentoo security guide (http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml#doc_chap12) and modified it a little. the server is able to establish an adsl-connection and lynx has no prob to surf the net. the firewall script is started and from inside the network i can easily access the server (192.168.0.1) via ssh, but theres no response to pings from e.g. 192.168.0.121 . the server itself is not able to make pings and get a strange error message: *** tux root # ping www.google.com PING www.google.akadns.net (216.239.59.99) 56(84) bytes of data. ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted ping: sendmsg: Operation not permitted --- www.google.akadns.net ping statistics --- 3 packets transmitted, 0 received, 100% packet loss, time 2000ms *** my firewallscript is attached to this mail. i do not see a mistake or something in that script. btw another strange behavior: yesterday the nat routing suddenly ran for about 10 minutes without changing the script (as i can remember). i am thankful for every little hint :) simon #!/sbin/runscript IPTABLES=/sbin/iptables IPTABLESSAVE=/sbin/iptables-save IPTABLESRESTORE=/sbin/iptables-restore FIREWALL=/etc/firewall.rules DNS1=145.253.2.11 DNS2=145.253.2.75 #inside IINTERFACE=eth0 #outside OINTERFACE=ppp0 opts=${opts} showstatus panic save restore showoptions rules depend() { need net procparam } rules() { stop ebegin Setting internal rules einfo Setting default rule to drop $IPTABLES -P FORWARD DROP $IPTABLES -P INPUT DROP $IPTABLES -P OUTPUT DROP #default rule einfo Creating states chain $IPTABLES -N allowed-connection $IPTABLES -F allowed-connection $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -m state --state ESTABLISHED,RELATED -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -i $IINTERFACE -m limit -j LOG --log-prefix Bad packet from ${IINTERFACE}: $IPTABLES -A allowed-connection -j DROP #ICMP traffic einfo Creating icmp chain $IPTABLES -N icmp_allowed $IPTABLES -F icmp_allowed $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -m state --state NEW -p icmp --icmp-type time-exceeded -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -m state --state NEW -p icmp --icmp-type destination-unreachable -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -p icmp -j LOG --log-prefix Bad ICMP traffic: $IPTABLES -A icmp_allowed -p icmp -j DROP #Incoming traffic einfo Creating incoming ssh traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-ssh-traffic-in $IPTABLES -F allow-ssh-traffic-in #Flood protection $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL RST --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m limit --limit 1/second -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL SYN --dport ssh -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-in -m state --state RELATED,ESTABLISHED -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT #outgoing traffic einfo Creating outgoing ssh traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-ssh-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-ssh-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-ssh-traffic-out -p tcp --dport ssh -j ACCEPT einfo Creating outgoing dns traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-dns-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-dns-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-dns-traffic-out -p udp -d $DNS1 --dport domain -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-dns-traffic-out -p udp -d $DNS2 --dport domain -j ACCEPT einfo Creating outgoing http/https traffic chain $IPTABLES -N allow-www-traffic-out $IPTABLES -F allow-www-traffic-out $IPTABLES -A allow-www-traffic-out -p tcp --dport www -j ACCEPT $IPTABLES -A allow-www-traffic-out -p tcp --dport https -j ACCEPT #Catch portscanners einfo Creating portscan detection chain $IPTABLES -N check-flags $IPTABLES -F check-flags $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH -m limit --limit 5/minute -j LOG --log-level alert --log-prefix NMAP-XMAS: $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags ALL FIN,URG,PSH -j DROP $IPTABLES -A check-flags -p tcp --tcp-flags
Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants 2.6.0-test8??
On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:21, Tom Wesley wrote: (B Recently I've had a problem with portage wanting to install (B development-sources-2.6.0_beta8: (B (B emerge -uDp world (B These are the packages that I would merge, in order: (B (B Calculating world dependencies ...done! (B [ebuild N] sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.0_beta8 (B [ebuild N] x11-misc/karamba-0.17-r1 (B [ebuild N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r2 (B [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.48 [2.0.47-r1] (B [ebuild N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.1_pre2 (B [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] (B [ebuild N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2 (B [ebuild U ] net-ftp/pure-ftpd-1.0.16c [1.0.16b] (B (B But `etcat -d development-sources` returns nothing. My guess is that (B it's connected to the alsa vitual. Does anyone know how I can check (B this? (B (BHave a look in /var/cache/edb. However, nothing there should reference (Bdevelopment-sources unless you've had it installed before. (B (BJason (B (B-- (B[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants 2.6.0-test8??
Tom Wesley wrote: Hi all, Recently I've had a problem with portage wanting to install development-sources-2.6.0_beta8: emerge -uDp world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.0_beta8 [ebuild N] x11-misc/karamba-0.17-r1 [ebuild N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r2 [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.48 [2.0.47-r1] [ebuild N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.1_pre2 [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] [ebuild N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/pure-ftpd-1.0.16c [1.0.16b] But `etcat -d development-sources` returns nothing. My guess is that it's connected to the alsa vitual. Does anyone know how I can check this? One practice I've taken to is to always use the '-v' flag whenever I use '-p'. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants 2.6.0-test8??
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 13:00, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:21, Tom Wesley wrote: Recently I've had a problem with portage wanting to install development-sources-2.6.0_beta8: emerge -uDp world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.0_beta8 [ebuild N] x11-misc/karamba-0.17-r1 [ebuild N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r2 [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.48 [2.0.47-r1] [ebuild N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.1_pre2 [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] [ebuild N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/pure-ftpd-1.0.16c [1.0.16b] But `etcat -d development-sources` returns nothing. My guess is that it's connected to the alsa vitual. Does anyone know how I can check this? Have a look in /var/cache/edb. However, nothing there should reference development-sources unless you've had it installed before. Jason Thanks for the suggestion, however I do have test9 installed. Just can't work out what relies on test8! -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] portage wants 2.6.0-test8??
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 13:00, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:21, Tom Wesley wrote: Recently I've had a problem with portage wanting to install development-sources-2.6.0_beta8: emerge -uDp world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] sys-kernel/development-sources-2.6.0_beta8 [ebuild N] x11-misc/karamba-0.17-r1 [ebuild N] x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r2 [ebuild U ] net-www/apache-2.0.48 [2.0.47-r1] [ebuild N] dev-lang/ruby-1.8.1_pre2 [ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] [ebuild N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2 [ebuild U ] net-ftp/pure-ftpd-1.0.16c [1.0.16b] But `etcat -d development-sources` returns nothing. My guess is that it's connected to the alsa vitual. Does anyone know how I can check this? Have a look in /var/cache/edb. However, nothing there should reference development-sources unless you've had it installed before. Jason OK sorry people, seeems test9 was masked, hence the need for test8. -- Tom Wesley signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Serial ATA RAID 0
Hi, Some days ago I posted a message asking for informations on Linux serial ATA support (I'm buying a PC). Reading the answers I got interested in RAID 0. I'd like to buy a Dell Dimension 8300 with two 120MB Serial ATA drives in RAID 0 configuration. Dell PCs have an Intel 875 motherboard, but I heard that DELL doesn't use the internal SATA controller but comes with a PCI external controller. I haven't been able to obtain any technical specification from Dell website. Provided that I'll stress Dell by phone Monday morning, I'd like to know if anyone of you does already have that configuration and has been able to install Gentoo (or any other Linux distro) on that PC. Thanks. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo up and running
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 07:55, Joseph Eaton wrote: I think I will wipe the system and start over again. I started from stage 1. Next time will be stage 3. On old hardware such as yours, taking 14 days, give or take a couple because of first-time mistakes, that's just unreasonable. I agree about not doing a stage 1 install again. You could even do a GRP install and not have to compile *anything*. Download a pre-compiled ISO disc that's optimized for your hardware and all you lose is the infinite ability to tweak, all of which may NOT amount to a noticable improvement. Regards Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: damned usb mouse again
hi all! you don't have the usbmouse module installed. -Paul use *either* USBMOUSE or HID Hall right guys, i picked hid because knoppix recognizes and can use my mouse without any problem and lsmod gives: mousedev hid usbcore input usb-uhci i tried them, even copied them from knoppix pre-built, but nothing. dmesg shows that the usb subsystem understands i have a MS Optical Wheel Mouse as soon as i plug it in. Post information from /etc/X11/XF86config regarding you mouse. This is an example of mine. It works for both my laptop and home system. Identifier Mouse1 Driver mouse Option ProtocolIMPS/2 Option Device /dev/input/mice Option ZAxisMapping 4 5 Option Buttons5 -- Bobby R. Cox mine is exactly the same, though i think that the problem is somewhat above X, since # cat /dev/input/mice doesn't show any understanig of my mouse movements. i'll try to recompile the kernel with a different usb config...but it's kinda desperate action, since i have no idea what i shall change :-/ nice weekends to everyone! you're very supportive, guys Roberto -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: damned usb mouse again
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 13:57, Roberto Padovani wrote: hi all! you don't have the usbmouse module installed. -Paul use *either* USBMOUSE or HID Hall right guys, i picked hid because knoppix recognizes and can use my mouse without any problem and lsmod gives: I tried *again* last night, with both enabled, and it still didn't work. I did check Gentoo's default .config and they do NOT enable USBMOUSE or USBKEYB (not sure of the exact name for the keyboard item). Things are currently connected to the old PS2 ports... and work... mine is exactly the same, though i think that the problem is somewhat above X, since # cat /dev/input/mice doesn't show any understanig of my mouse movements. You're correct. If the kernel doesn't know the mouse exists, don't bother with X (yet). Hall -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Thank you very much. I've been on the Ardour list but haven't taken this question there as I figured there weren't any Gentooers there - glad to hear I'm wrong. I'll try copying creating the ~.ardourrc file although I thought it would default to using the /etc/ardour one if mine didn't exist. I'll definitely visit Jan's site. Cableone was my old provider till I moved! On Saturday 01 November 2003 00:13, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 20:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: SNIP The docs on Jack also mention using a /etc/asound.rc or ~/.asound.rc file to set up devices, etc. Have you found that necessary? Brett, I just snipped the rest out because if the .ardourrc file isn't set up right then nothing is going to work for you. It's been so long since I've set up Ardour from scratch that I'm going to be doing some guessing here. I think you'll get far better answers subscribing to the ardour-user list. (FYI - I know that one of the developers - Jesse Chappel, and at least one other guy who runs a pro studio, are using Ardour under Gentoo, so don't give up. It will run.) First, copy the ardour.rc file that's in the download directory to your home directory with a name change cp path/ardour/ardour.rc ~/.ardourrc Second, check Jan Depner's Alsa/Jack/Ardour configuration site for config ideas. The address is: http://myweb.cableone.net/eviltwin69/Ardour.html#Configuring I think (hope, pray) you'll find what you need there. Jan's a great guy and very organized. He's built this up over the last year. I think it's probably quite good at this point. I'll keep my eyes open for more info on this. Maybe I'll just build it myself from CVS. I haven't done that in a long time. Good luck, MArk -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Okay, it works then! I'll visit Jan and the other sites and follow your advice about ardourrc and see if I can get mine running. What is qjackctl? I'll definitely let you know - it may take awhile as I have a long list of things that must get done today! On Saturday 01 November 2003 00:59, you wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 20:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I did some more work on it. SNIP Brett, I built it and it's up and running. ./autogen.sh ./configure make make install (as root) as user This is a reminder, sent out once a month, about your xfce.org mailing cp path/ardour/ardourrc .ardourrc (necessary?) Started Jack using qjackctl Started Ardour Looked in qjackctl - no evidence of ardour Created a new session Looked in qjackctl - ardour is there My only problem right now is that after I hook some stuff up, I want to record but hitting start isn't working. Anyway, maybe this info will help you. Write back and let me know how it comes out. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnome has taken over my KDE desktop
I dont know how it happen, but when I use KDM or GDM and launch KDE, the correct desktop starts then switchs over the Gnome, losing all the configs I had under KDE. I have rebooted several times, and no luck. How can fi fixt this? TIA Bruce -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Okay, it works then! I'll visit Jan and the other sites and follow your advice about ardourrc and see if I can get mine running. What is qjackctl? I'll definitely let you know - it may take awhile as I have a long list of things that must get done today! Glad you're making headway. qjackctl is an application that allows you to set up Jack, run it, make connections between Jack clients, all in one place. It's very handy. http://qjackctl.sf.net Once you start using it there's no need for anything else to get all this stuff set up. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Serial ATA RAID 0
Hi, Some days ago I posted a message asking for informations on Linux serial ATA support (I'm buying a PC). Reading the answers I got interested in RAID 0. I'd like to buy a Dell Dimension 8300 with two 120MB Serial ATA drives in RAID 0 configuration. Dell PCs have an Intel 875 motherboard, but I heard that DELL doesn't use the internal SATA controller but comes with a PCI external controller. I haven't been able to obtain any technical specification from Dell website. Provided that I'll stress Dell by phone Monday morning, I'd like to know if anyone of you does already have that configuration and has been able to install Gentoo (or any other Linux distro) on that PC. Thanks. These guys at Altamicro advertised on the Redhat Install list that they have a version of Redhat all set up to install RH on SATA drives for the Intel 875 chipsets, so I think it can be done. Altamicro 3423 Investment Boulevard Suite 202 Hayward, CA 94545 1-866-868-ALTA (Toll Free) 1-510-732-3728 (Main) I think they sell a CD for $5 or something pretty cheap. I don't know what you can download, or how in depth their web site it. Check them out if it's of interest to you. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Building KDE
Hi I am trying to build KDE on Gentoo 1.4, and the process is hanging The screen shows ... celt root # emerge kdeCalculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 62) dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.11 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2--15:49:56-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2'Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... done.Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... HTTP request sent, awaiting response...Is there a problem with gentoo.oregonstate.edu ? Many thanx Simon Simon WindsorEmail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Tel: 01454 617689Mob: 07720 447385-- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. Mailscanner thanks transtec Computers for their support.
RE: [gentoo-user] Building KDE
yes, just give it time, it will eventually time out.. -Original Message-From: Simon Windsor [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 9:55 AMTo: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: [gentoo-user] Building KDE Hi I am trying to build KDE on Gentoo 1.4, and the process is hanging The screen shows ... celt root # emerge kdeCalculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 62) dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.11 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2--15:49:56-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2'Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... done.Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... HTTP request sent, awaiting response...Is there a problem with gentoo.oregonstate.edu ?
Re: [gentoo-user] ATX power off
I have ACPI disabled in my BIOS, I use APM only because if I enable ACPI my onboard NIC doesn't work any more. I have an ECS K7S5AL board. On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 00:14, BlueRibbon wrote: ACPI seems to work on my box (vanilla sources - 2.4.22). My settings (regarding power management and acpi): Power Management Support - YES APM - NO ACPI Support - YES all the options in ACPI off, except for: Button Fan Processor Thermal Zone Debug Statements which are all set to YES. Hope this helps someone. Redeeman wrote: same problem here, acpi doesent work in 2.4.22, i didnt switch power supply, it works with knoppix, slackware and mandrake, but not with gentoo, and i have tried to run apmd, doesent work, no idea how to solve, i would like to know though :) On Thu, 2003-10-30 at 23:47, Guy Van Sanden wrote: Hello everyone My system is not powering off on shutdown any more. It used to work on Mandrake, but I switched to Gentoo together with changing my case (and powersupply). In Knoppix it still works. I do have APM power off enabled in the kernel config The system is gentoo-2.4.20-r8 The case is Aopen H600B The main difference as I can see is that both Mandrake and Knoppix use a 2.4.21 kernel. Thanks for any suggestions Guy -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ATX power off
It has been in since 3.0 at least, but you only see it if you use KDM. On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 19:06, Matt Chorman wrote: Huh? KDE doesn't have that option. I know they are planning on adding this in a later version, but I don't think it will even be in 3.2 - IIRC it is on the roadmap for 3.3 -- Matt On Friday 31 October 2003 04:52 am, flacycads wrote: On Friday 31 October 2003 3:52 am, FX wrote: The difference i have seen with mandrake and gentoo. Is you dont have the shutdown icon screen like you did in mandrake. how are you shutting down your system ? do you use the halt or shutdown commands? I just go to the K menu, Logout, and turn off computer. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- __ Guy Van Sanden http://unixmafia.port5.com Registered Linux user #249404 - September 1997 __ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
I wonder if your firewall is blocking ping scans. Disable the firewall and see if you can ping google. In my firewall, I do: # Block ping scans iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DROP # ... but not coming from our LAN iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP On Saturday 01 November 2003 06:15 am, Simon Kühling wrote: hi everyone, i'm trying to get my gentoo box running as a firewall and nat-router for my home-network. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building KDE
Simon Windsor wrote: Hi I am trying to build KDE on Gentoo 1.4, and the process is hanging The screen shows ... celt root # emerge kde Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 62) dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.11 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 --15:49:56-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... done. Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Is there a problem with gentoo.oregonstate.edu ? I couldn't connect to it a few minutes ago. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] # chown root.root *
What could possibly be wrong here? # chown root.root * chown: `root.root': invalid user -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] # chown root.root *
Stephen Boulet wrote: What could possibly be wrong here? # chown root.root * chown: `root.root': invalid user I seem to remember something about the latest version not excepting that form anymore. Try this: chown root:root * -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] # chown root.root *
Your using the masked version I see... Try root:root.. Thats be deprecated to be compliant I guess.. What could possibly be wrong here? # chown root.root * chown: `root.root': invalid user -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] # chown root.root *
From man chown: GNU DETAILS The GNU version allows a dot instead of a colon (following BSD). [This was not allowed by POSIX since a dot is a valid character in a user name.] If a colon or dot but no group name follows the user name, that user is made the owner of the files and the group of the files is changed to that user's login group. If the colon or dot and group are given, but the user name is omitted, only the group of the files is changed; in this case, chown performs the same function as chgrp. So try using a colon? Leendert On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 10:24:04 -0600 Stephen Boulet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What could possibly be wrong here? # chown root.root * chown: `root.root': invalid user -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
I wonder if your firewall is blocking ping scans. Disable the firewall and see if you can ping google. well, you are right - disabling the firewall makes ping work again. maybe it is easier to build my own script from scratch instead of using the one from gentoo-security-guide. In my firewall, I do: # Block ping scans iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DROP # ... but not coming from our LAN iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP ok, thanks for the hint! simon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Archiving Messages
On Oct 30, 2003, at 6:02 pm, Dennis Freise wrote: This may be a bit offtopic. I'm currently using courier-imapd and exim to receive and sort a number of mailing lists, and I want to keep at least a few months of each list.. The problem is, that courier-imapd gets terribly slow, when a folder reaches about 10.000 messages, but I must admit, that the machine on which the imapd runs is not the newest (p1-233mhz, 256mb ram). Now my question: Does anybody know of a faster way to archive mailing lists ? I thought about inn, but I don't know if that gets me any speed advantage. I've experienced this, too, but not really tried to fix it properly. But if I were to install a courier-IMAP commercially it could be quite an issue, so I have considered this solution: Why not run an cron job to archive your files to another sub-folder..? I think something like this would be suitable, if run monthly by cron: $ find .Maildir/.Some\ Mailing\ List/cur/ -mtime +28 -exec mv \{\} .Maildir/.Some\ Mailing\ List.Archive/cur/ \; My courier-IMAP server runs on hardware not *that* much newer or faster than yours - a PII 400. If I look at `top` when it is on a go-slow I don't see courier-imap taking up THAT much resources (it's near the top of the list, but that's not saying much, because this machine isn't heavily-loaded); I think the problem is with disk-accesses. The go slow only _seems_ to happen when I open the particular folder that is especially full - if I restrict myself to folders containing only a few hundred messages everything seems fine. Does this concur with your findings..? What filing system do you use, please..? What do you define as terribly slow..? A few seconds wait, or time-to-make-a-cup-of-tea slow..? I hope you find this helpful, and would be indebted for any comments on my questions, Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] bochs and livecd
I'm trying to get the Gentoo LiveCD (1.4_rc2) to boot under bochs. Has anyone done this before? It paints the isolinux boot screen (very slowly). I type 'gentoo' and hit enter. It says 'Uncompressing linux...' and just sits there. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
gshield and shorewall can build you a firewall.. I prefer gshield myself. I wonder if your firewall is blocking ping scans. Disable the firewall and see if you can ping google. well, you are right - disabling the firewall makes ping work again. maybe it is easier to build my own script from scratch instead of using the one from gentoo-security-guide. In my firewall, I do: # Block ping scans iptables -A INPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-request -j DROP # ... but not coming from our LAN iptables -A FORWARD -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP iptables -A OUTPUT -p icmp --icmp-type echo-reply -j DROP -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] # chown root.root *
Thanks all. The colon did the trick. On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:28 am, Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Your using the masked version I see... Try root:root.. Thats be deprecated to be compliant I guess.. -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
I got jackd started and running as my user. I didn't make any changes except to set ARDORRC to /etc/ardour/ardour.rc. However, Ardour still refuses to start saying it can't find jack. I'll have to work on it later. On Saturday 01 November 2003 10:35, you wrote: Okay, it works then! I'll visit Jan and the other sites and follow your advice about ardourrc and see if I can get mine running. What is qjackctl? I'll definitely let you know - it may take awhile as I have a long list of things that must get done today! Glad you're making headway. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo-newbie - Install fails
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:28:58 +1100, Kingsley [EMAIL PROTECTED] responded thusly: snip I 'emerge portage'-ed but it failed to patch. It seemed to be unpacking and configuring sys-devel/patch2.5.9 But this failes with a message ... see config.log So I look in here - the configure has broken with a compile, and once again the error is - undefined symbol xxmalloc_set_program_name. *sigh* -kt Sigh indeed. :( -- The only fallacy is the inaction on our part to stave off the worst of horrors, the stripping of personal freedom. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] SiS 630 DRM
Well that was a bit of a palaver. After following the instructions at www.winischhofer.net and compiling XFree there is still no sis_dri.so file. I unpacked the X430src-x.tgz files, copied Thomas's driver code into the correct place and rebuilt. Nothing. Anyone out there have a pre-compiled copy of sis_dri.so I can leech? Phil. Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 14:57, Philip Ward wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: Be sure you also have this: /usr/X11R6/lib/modules/dri/sis_dri.so Ah, that's what's missing. Is sis_dri.so part of a particular package or should I add sis_dri or dri to my USE flags and rebuild xfree? For whatever reason xfree-4.3 doesn't build it. That's why www.winischhofer.net has them available for download. However, you'll find that 4.3.99.x will build it. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] cat /proc/version: propolice?
What is propolice? Does it mean I'm all for the police, or is it Italian for fast linux distro? Hmm, I wonder if it's the test name of the prepatch ... # cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.23-pre3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20031022 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.2-r2, propolice)) #1 Sat Nov 1 07:55:10 CST 2003 -- Stephen From here to there and there to here, funny things are everywhere. -- Dr Seuss -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Archiving Messages
On Nov 1, 2003, at 5:34 pm, Dennis Freise wrote: I think something like this would be suitable, if run monthly by cron: $ find .Maildir/.Some\ Mailing\ List/cur/ -mtime +28 -exec mv \{\} .Maildir/.Some\ Mailing\ List.Archive/cur/ \; Not a bad idea, I'll keep that idea as a backup plan :) I'm interested to hear why you think of it as a reserve-only solution. My courier-IMAP server runs on hardware not *that* much newer or faster than yours - a PII 400... The go slow only _seems_ to happen when I open the particular folder that is especially full - if I restrict myself to folders containing only a few hundred messages everything seems fine Yes, that's exactly what I found. For me, it's especially the linux kernel mailinglist folder (about 10.000 messages now). terribly slow means, that I have to wait for approx. 2-3 minutes for the folder to open, and at least 20 seconds for each message. I'm currently using ReiserFS, which seems to me like the best choice for many small files. That's interesting. I'd find that degree of slowness quite unacceptable - mine takes a few seconds to synchronise. The way that Apple's Mail.app (the client I use most all the time) seems to work is that if I wake the computer from sleep after, say, 24 hours, then it will syncronise the mail headers in all folders before getting any message bodies. If I go straight to a folder with 100 new messages, then, I guess it takes 20 seconds or so to read the first new messages. But that's the longest it ever seems to take, because Mail.app caches messages stored on an IMAP server. I hope you find this helpful, and would be indebted for any comments on my questions, Thank you very much for your idea. I started this thread because I wondered how other people manage large amounts of emails over imap - there are a few points that are really important for me: the archived messages should be accessible from anywhere on my lan and the messages should be searchable (prefered to be more comfortable than 'grep' ;)). Well, I hope you find it useful. Since my mail client allows me to do searches, that suggestion would work for me. Well, actually, I'd change it to a bash script that did it for each of my mail-list mailboxes, but you know what I mean. If you want something else, why not put them in /home/http/htdocs run htdig on them..? * net-www/htdig Latest version available: 3.1.6-r4 Latest version installed: [ Not Installed ] Size of downloaded files: 2,020 kB Homepage:http://www.htdig.org Description: HTTP/HTML indexing and searching system Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Archiving Messages
On Nov 1, 2003, at 6:36 pm, Stroller wrote: That's interesting. I'd find that degree of slowness quite unacceptable - mine takes a few seconds to synchronise. The way that Apple's Mail.app (the client I use most all the time) seems to work is that if I wake the computer from sleep after, say, 24 hours, then it will syncronise the mail headers in all folders before getting any message bodies. If I go straight to a folder with 100 new messages, then, I guess it takes 20 seconds or so to read the first new messages. Sorry, that should be read as: If I go straight to a folder with 100 new messages, then, I guess it takes 20 seconds or so to display the body of the first new message I select. Stroller. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] OT - SATA vs IDE
Hey folks. Based on some of the recent discussion about RAID and SATA and whatnot, I was wondering if anyone had any benchmarks for SATA vs IDE performance. I found some stuff over at storage review, but that was more focused on SATA vs SATA performance. I remember a review on /. sometime ago when SATA was just coming out that basically concluded that it was find and dandy, but not much faster than the equivelant IDE storage. I have SATA on my A7N8X-DX, and was thinking of using it up, but wanted to find out a bit more first. It looks like the drives are only a couple of bucks more than the same size/cache IDE drive, but is there any performance gain (other than the fact that the MB has built in SATA RAID0 of course :) alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] downloading Yahoo! mail
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 15:20, Steven Elling wrote: On Wednesday 29 October 2003 23:09, Andrew Gaffney wrote: I want to be able to download my Yahoo! mail into Mozilla. I see that in portage there are 2 programs for this: yosucker and fetchyahoo. Which one of them is better, or does it really matter? Also, I want to setup a POP3 server so that I can download the mail into Mozilla once it is fetched into the mail spool. Does anyone have a setup like this? Is there an easier way? I use fetchyahoo through KMail. KMail is set up to run fetchyahoo.pl as a pre-command for a Local Account located at /var/mail/{USERNAME}-yahoo-inbox. fetchyahoo.pl downloads e-mails to /var/mail/{USERNAME}-yahoo-inbox and, once done, KMail picks them up from the mail spool file. I just wouldn't set up KMail to do interval checking for this Local Account because fetchyahoo.pl returns error codes when no mail is available for download and KMail displays notices for the error codes then waits for you to hit OK before it continues with the next operation. then why not wrap a script around fetchyahoo.pl that always returns OK? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Gnome has taken over my KDE desktop
On Sat, Nov 01, 2003 at 10:16:43AM -0500, Bruce E. Harris wrote: I dont know how it happen, but when I use KDM or GDM and launch KDE, the correct desktop starts then switchs over the Gnome, losing all the configs I had under KDE. I have rebooted several times, and no luck. How can fi fixt this? Muhahahahah! Prepare to welcome your new gnome masters! Gnome is taking over the world Muauhahahahahahahahahhahahaha *deep breath* hahahahahahahahah Actually, there are a couple of things to try. Try exiting and stopping xdm or kdm and run 'startkde' from the comand line. If that works, it's a kdm/gdm issue. If the same thing happens check your .xinitrc and .xsession files to see if you have something like 'exec gnome-panel' or something like that in there, which is executing when your X starts up. The other thing would be to check your session files in KDE... maybe you have somehow gotten something in gnome to exec as part of a saved session. Last but not least, try moving your .kde directory to somewhere else and start KDE with no user settings and see if it still happens. It shouldn't, and you should get the KDE first time menu and be able to reset things from there. Unfortunately I'm not all that well versed in KDE startup and session stuff :( Alan -- Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED] - http://arcterex.net There are only 3 real sports: bull-fighting, car racing and mountain climbing. All the others are mere games.-- Hemingway -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] OT - SATA vs IDE
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 10:58, Alan wrote: Hey folks. Based on some of the recent discussion about RAID and SATA and whatnot, I was wondering if anyone had any benchmarks for SATA vs IDE performance. I found some stuff over at storage review, but that was more focused on SATA vs SATA performance. I remember a review on /. sometime ago when SATA was just coming out that basically concluded that it was find and dandy, but not much faster than the equivelant IDE storage. I have SATA on my A7N8X-DX, and was thinking of using it up, but wanted to find out a bit more first. It looks like the drives are only a couple of bucks more than the same size/cache IDE drive, but is there any performance gain (other than the fact that the MB has built in SATA RAID0 of course :) alan Alan, SATA as a bus interface runs up to about 150MB/S, so that's a bit better than 3x what you'll likely get out of an IDE interface. However, just because the cable is capable of running faster doesn't mean the benchmark will be higher. It will depend on how much of that 150MB/S your drive is capable of producing, and then how good the Linux drivers are for your controller. I understand the Silicon Image controller is well supported, so I'm building a machine based on the A7N8X Deluxe also, but I won't start installing Gentoo until sometime next week. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Live CD for 2.6 beta 9
Wondering if it is better to start from scratch with a 2.6 kernel live CD, or if it is possible to install gentoo, and a 2.6 kernel starting from one of the older CDs that I already have downloaded. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 09:45, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I got jackd started and running as my user. I didn't make any changes except to set ARDORRC to /etc/ardour/ardour.rc. However, Ardour still refuses to start saying it can't find jack. I'll have to work on it later. Yes, I do understand the frustrations, and I'm sorry your having them. I am also today! Did you start jack in a terminal? Since I'm using qjackctl, maybe it's running a bit different. qjackctl's terminal says: 1:07:40 Statistics reset. 11:07:43 JACK is being forced... 11:07:43 [killall -9 jackd] 11:07:43 JACK has been forced with exit status=256. 11:07:44 JACK is starting... 11:07:44 [jackd -t 500 -d alsa -d hw:0 -r 44100 -p 64 -n 2] 11:07:44 Statistics reset. 11:07:44 JACK is started with PID=4048 (0xfd0). JACK compiled with System V SHM support loading driver .. open starting engine alsa_pcm: xrun of at least 3.284 msecs Everything to this point is pretty normal. Last evening when I built Ardour it ran, or at least didn't crash. Today when I start it the main screen pops up for a second, and then goes away. I'm left with the following in my terminal: bash-2.05b$ ardour Ardour/GTK 0.412.0 running with libardour 0.698.0 Loading UI configuration file /usr/local/etc/ardour/ardour_ui.rc Loading system configuration file /usr/local/etc/ardour/ardour_system.rc Loading user configuration file /home/mark/.ardour/ardour.rc MIDI: MTC on port hw:0 MMC on port hw:0 Shift = Shift_L Shift = Shift_R Control = Control_L Control = Control_R Mod1 = Alt_L Mod1 = Alt_R ardour: [WARNING]: You have 2 keys bound to mod1 Mod2 = Num_Lock Mod4 = Super_L Mod4 = Super_R ardour: [WARNING]: You have 2 keys bound to mod4 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 571 0 285 570 0 0 571 0 285 570 0 Segmentation fault bash-2.05b$ It also looks to me like they've changed what Ardour is expecting for configuration info. I have not exported anything in my .bashrc file, so it seems to be finding /home/mark/.ardour/ardour.rc by default. I don't know what's going on with this, but since I don't intend to run it I think I'd better drop out. Actually, if your interest is really having to do with CD's and such, I always thought Audacity or ReZound would be better choices. Neither require or even use Jack, I think, so they should be more friendly in this sense. BTW - I don't think this is a Jack issue under Gentoo. I run Jack with alsaplayer, freqtweak, tapiir, ZynAddSubFx and abSynth all the time and have no problems. This is pretty clearly an Ardour issue in my mind. Good luck, and feel free to write on or off list about this stuff. Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD for 2.6 beta 9
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 06:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wondering if it is better to start from scratch with a 2.6 kernel live CD, or if it is possible to install gentoo, and a 2.6 kernel starting from one of the older CDs that I already have downloaded. If you want to install from 2.6, more power to you, but I don't really see the point. Especially if you're just reinstalling because you want to use a 2.6 kernel on the LiveCD. Same location on any mirror: http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/x86/livecd/livecd-2.6_10-23-2003.iso signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Booting Cdrom from floppy?
I remember on this list someone said there was a way to boot from cdrom, even when the bios doesn't support it. Like using a floppy I think. I have been googling for awhile now and can't find it.. Can someone put me in the right direction?? or did I just dream this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Fonts files
From times to times I have problems with the fonts! Now it's happening again after rebuilding gentoo to my laptop. Generally I resolve the problems on a error and try basis. I copy from previous installations, for ex. Is there anything I could read or is there anybody who could explain how fonts configuration works? I have at least 3 files. /etc/fonts/local.conf, /etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/fs/config. What are the roles of each of these files? What fonts should I put in there? TIA for any help. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD for 2.6 beta 9
The laptop I am using needs to be repartitioned, so I dumped all the contents into an external. I thought I would use the opportunity to try out 2.6b9 as most feel it is stable enough (and fast as hell it appears). Another side effect is that I can also compile with better cflags than I did before I gathered new information. I know I don't have to reinstall just to do these two things, but since I am repartitioning and essantially starting from a clean disk I thought it good opportunity. I guess the question becomes, does a installing from a 2.4 livecd, stage1 install have any disadvantages over using a 2.6 disc, when set on using a 2.6 kernel. As I alredy have a 2.4 disc burned, if it makes no difference, I would save my time and skip downloading a new disc. * Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] [11-01-03 14:19]: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 06:16, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wondering if it is better to start from scratch with a 2.6 kernel live CD, or if it is possible to install gentoo, and a 2.6 kernel starting from one of the older CDs that I already have downloaded. If you want to install from 2.6, more power to you, but I don't really see the point. Especially if you're just reinstalling because you want to use a 2.6 kernel on the LiveCD. Same location on any mirror: http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/experimental/x86/livecd/livecd-2.6_10-23-2003.iso -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Document managment
Hi, Is Zope with CMF a good choice for document managment? Patrick -- The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Captain Spock in Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan PGP Key: http://users.pandora.be/rivendell/marquetp.gpg Fingerprint = 2792 057F C445 9486 F932 3AEA D3A3 1B0C 1059 273B ICQ# 316932703 Registered Linux User #44550 http://counter.li.org signature.asc Description: Dit berichtdeel is digitaal ondertekend
Re: [gentoo-user] Live CD for 2.6 beta 9
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The laptop I am using needs to be repartitioned, so I dumped all the contents into an external. I thought I would use the opportunity to try out 2.6b9 as most feel it is stable enough (and fast as hell it appears). Another side effect is that I can also compile with better cflags than I did before I gathered new information. I know I don't have to reinstall just to do these two things, but since I am repartitioning and essantially starting from a clean disk I thought it good opportunity. I guess the question becomes, does a installing from a 2.4 livecd, stage1 install have any disadvantages over using a 2.6 disc, when set on using a 2.6 kernel. As I alredy have a 2.4 disc burned, if it makes no difference, I would save my time and skip downloading a new disc. The only reason you would want to use a LiveCD with a 2.6 kernel is if you have hardware that isn't supported under 2.4.20 or whatever the LiveCD uses. You can still compile a 2.6 kernel within the chroot. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fonts files
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 14:17, Paulo da Silva wrote: From times to times I have problems with the fonts! Now it's happening again after rebuilding gentoo to my laptop. Generally I resolve the problems on a error and try basis. I copy from previous installations, for ex. Is there anything I could read or is there anybody who could explain how fonts configuration works? I have at least 3 files. /etc/fonts/local.conf, /etc/X11/XF86Config and /etc/X11/fs/config. What are the roles of each of these files? What fonts should I put in there? local.conf is for fontconfig stuff, and it adds to fonts.conf. /etc/X11/XF86Config is for old-style font setup (you need both set up for your fonts for every app to have all the fonts available) /etc/X11/fs/config is telling the X font server what fonts to serve. signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
[gentoo-user] Glis v0.1 final has been released. See THE BEST Linux INSTALLER
See : http:// glis.sourceforge.net for more details. Link to tarball here. Time for a blatant appeal. We always need more developers and testers. If you would like to sign up to help contact us through the link on our home page or contact me directly here End of blatant appeal -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Building KDE
Yes, there is a problem with gentoo.oregonstate.edu. It is inaccessible in through www. - Original Message - From: Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Building KDE Simon Windsor wrote: Hi I am trying to build KDE on Gentoo 1.4, and the process is hanging The screen shows ... celt root # emerge kde Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 62) dev-libs/libxml2-2.5.11 to / Downloading http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 --15:49:56-- http://gentoo.oregonstate.edu/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2 = `/usr/portage/distfiles/libxml2-2.5.11.tar.bz2' Resolving gentoo.oregonstate.edu... done. Connecting to gentoo.oregonstate.edu[128.193.0.3]:80... HTTP request sent, awaiting response... Is there a problem with gentoo.oregonstate.edu ? I couldn't connect to it a few minutes ago. -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Israeli Processor Computes at Speed of Light
. . . after you wake up and smell the coffee ... JZidar - Original Message - From: Rick [Kitty5] [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 01, 2003 11:12 AM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Israeli Processor Computes at Speed of Light Lotas T Smartman wrote: We can only dream! Is that before of after you choke on price :) -- Rick Kitty5 NewMedia http://Kitty5.com POV-Ray News Resources http://Povray.co.uk TEL : +44 (01270) 501101 - ICQ : 15776037 PGP Public Key http://pgpkeys.mit.edu:11371/pks/lookup?op=getsearch=0x231E1CEA -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] optimum disk performance
On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:13:22 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Volker, hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 should be save. Are you sure that -u1 is safe? I've read the hdparm man page, but I (obviously) didn't understand it in full - is -u1 safe for _all_ chipsets now (got some sort of CMD640 chipset...) ? If it is, what can I expect from it concerning speedup ? Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuild x11-libs/openmotif broken?
Hi! trying to build x11-libs/openmotif I receive the following error: /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:1655: parse error before XmConvertCallbackStruct send.c: In function `WSMSendMessage': send.c:92: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetTimestamp' make[3]: *** [send.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm/WmW smLib' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 38, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed Is this ebuild broken at the moment? -- Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Missing /etc/bluetoth/uart
Hi ! I just bought a bluetooth-dongle, so i emerged bluez-utils, and everything works fine: laptop root # hcitool scan Scanning ... 00:60:57:95:18:56 Tobias 6310i Ok. This is my Cell phone. But /etc/init.d/bluetooth won't start, because there is no /etc/bluetoth/uart , and i have no clue what to put there :-( Regards, Tobias -- This message is made of 100 % recycled electrons \..| PGP Key: www.stud.uni-goettingen.de/~s242275/pgpkey.pub (o_ .\.|-- Jabber: te_linuxguru at amessage.de(o (o //\ ..\| ICQ: 124557012 (/)_(/)_V_/ pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Thanks for all the help. I'll just have to do some more checking and then post some on the ardour user's list. I don't think it's a jack issue either. It works for you and when it works for me ardour won't run.Jack started, then gave me a serious of load % and some information every so many seconds until I killed it. My Gentoo ebuild for cvs put every in /usr/share/ardour! I'll play with it some more. Ardour is way overkill for what I want to do but I'd like to see it work. Thanks again for all the help. On Saturday 01 November 2003 14:18, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 09:45, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I got jackd started and running as my user. I didn't make any changes except to set ARDORRC to /etc/ardour/ardour.rc. However, Ardour still refuses to start saying it can't find jack. I'll have to work on it later. Yes, I do understand the frustrations, and I'm sorry your having them. I am also today! Did you start jack in a terminal? Since I'm using qjackctl, maybe it's running a bit different. qjackctl's terminal says: -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Archiving Messages
On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 18:36:49 + Stroller [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi. Not a bad idea, I'll keep that idea as a backup plan :) I'm interested to hear why you think of it as a reserve-only solution. Really, I don't think that it's a bad idea. I just want to wait for more ideas, to see if there is some surprisingly better way :) That's interesting. I'd find that degree of slowness quite unacceptable - mine takes a few seconds to synchronise. The way that Apple's Mail.app (the client I use most all the time) seems to work is that if I wake the computer from sleep after, say, 24 hours, then it will syncronise the mail headers in all folders before getting any message bodies. If I go straight to a folder with 100 new messages, then, I guess it takes 20 seconds or so to read the first new messages. But that's the longest it ever seems to take, because Mail.app caches messages stored on an IMAP server. I just installed sylpheed-claws and found out, that it's _way_ faster when entering folders. But it blocks while checking for new mails. :| So, back to the old question... which mailclient fits best for me... I would really like sylpheed-claws win32, if it would not be so _extremely_ slow :) Well, I hope you find it useful. Since my mail client allows me to do searches, that suggestion would work for me. Well, actually, I'd change it to a bash script that did it for each of my mail-list mailboxes, but you know what I mean. If you want something else, why not put them in /home/http/htdocs run htdig on them..? The ultimate solution, I think, would be an html-archive, something like mailman creates, and then running htdig over that data :) Thanks for the ideas Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 12:40, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks for all the help. I'll just have to do some more checking and then post some on the ardour user's list. I don't think it's a jack issue either. It works for you and when it works for me ardour won't run.Jack started, then gave me a serious of load % and some information every so many seconds until I killed it. My Gentoo ebuild for cvs put every in /usr/share/ardour! I'll play with it some more. Ardour is way overkill for what I want to do but I'd like to see it work. Thanks again for all the help. Hey, I'm really happy to help. I managed to get my Linux testing duties for a new app out of the way pretty quickly today, so I'm back working in Windows with an equivalent of Ardour, but far more features. (The main one being real MIDI support...) Anyway, I wonder if I've run into some of your problems? I was using qjackctl version 0.0.8, so I decided to upgrade to 0.1.1a which is the latest tarball. It built, and starts, but then gives me two strange messages about not being able to connect to Jack. Sounds similar to your problems. My version of Jack installed right now is 0.80. I have a feeling that part of the problem may be that there are updates to Jack that I'm not running, and which may be required. Jack has been updated to have the transport of one program (transport == start, stop, pause, rewind, time display) control many programs, so that you can tell Ardour to record and it will start some other app, like alsaplayer rolling so you have audio. I know this new version of qjackctl supports it, and I think Ardour does, but I'm pretty sure the 0.80 version f Jack doesn't, or not correctly. Anyway, I can no longer run qjackctl, so I want to fix this. If I find and answer I'll post it back. BTW - lots of people do very good quality recording with both Audacity and ReZound, so don't think you're stepping down by using them. I use them for simple recording jobs all the time. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] optimum disk performance
On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:17, Dennis Freise wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:13:22 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Volker, hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 should be save. Are you sure that -u1 is safe? I've read the hdparm man page, but I (obviously) didn't understand it in full - is -u1 safe for _all_ chipsets now (got some sort of CMD640 chipset...) ? If it is, what can I expect from it concerning speedup ? as man hdparm says: -u Get/set interrupt-unmask flag for the drive. A setting of 1 permits the driver to unmask other interrupts during processing of a disk interrupt, which greatly improves Linux's responsive- ness and eliminates serial port overrun errors. the chipsets mentioned there are from the stone age of ide-controllers. If you have one of them, you do not need to worry about dma etc ;o) And man hdparm further says, that the kernels 2.0.13 and later incorporate an apropriate bug fix. If you do not believe man, don't use it. I am using this options since ages without probs but with other chipsets. (SiS 735, 746, hpt366 , via kt133 (I do not know the southbridge anymore, AFAIR an udma 66 type.)) Glück Auf Volker -- Conclusions In a straight-up fight, the Empire squashes the Federation like a bug. Even with its numerical advantage removed, the Empire would still squash the Federation like a bug. Accept it. -Michael Wong -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] can not emerge razor
I am getting the following error when trying to emerge razor: Calculating dependencies ...done! emerge (1 of 1) net-mail/razor-2.12 to / md5 src_uri ;-) razor-agents-2.12.tar.gz perl-module Unpacking source... Unpacking razor-agents-2.12.tar.gz to /var/tmp/portage/razor-2.12/work Source unpacked. perl-module Checking if your kit is complete... Looks good Writing Makefile for razor-agents Makefile:476: *** missing separator. Stop. !!! ERROR: net-mail/razor-2.12 failed. !!! Function perl-module_src_compile, Line 49, Exitcode 2 !!! compilation failed -- Glenn Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
I have jack 0.89.2 which was installed from cvs. I'll play with Audacity and ReZound some more. I just got stuck on Ardour! I'll be interested to see what you find. On Saturday 01 November 2003 16:01, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 12:40, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Thanks for all the help. I'll just have to do some more checking and then post some on the ardour user's list. My version of Jack installed right now is 0.80. I have a feeling that part of the problem may be that there are updates to Jack that I'm not running, and which may be required. Jack has been updated to have the transport of one program (transport == start, stop, pause, rewind, time display) control many programs, so that you can tell Ardour to record and it will start some other app, like alsaplayer rolling so you have audio. I know this new version of qjackctl supports it, and I think Ardour does, but I'm pretty sure the 0.80 version f Jack doesn't, or not correctly. Anyway, I can no longer run qjackctl, so I want to fix this. If I find and answer I'll post it back. BTW - lots of people do very good quality recording with both Audacity and ReZound, so don't think you're stepping down by using them. I use them for simple recording jobs all the time. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:12, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have jack 0.89.2 which was installed from cvs. I'll play with Audacity and ReZound some more. I just got stuck on Ardour! I'll be interested to see what you find. BTW - Did you ever try changing the fstab entry that Jack is using? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
No. It agreed with the docs from Jan's site so I left it. On Saturday 01 November 2003 18:32, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:12, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: I have jack 0.89.2 which was installed from cvs. I'll play with Audacity and ReZound some more. I just got stuck on Ardour! I'll be interested to see what you find. BTW - Did you ever try changing the fstab entry that Jack is using? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
--- Simon_Kühling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if your firewall is blocking ping scans. Disable the firewall and see if you can ping google. well, you are right - disabling the firewall makes ping work again. maybe it is easier to build my own script from scratch instead of using the one from gentoo-security-guide. If you insist. Your making allot of extra work for yourself. Shorewall already has all of the scripts that you need. All you need to do is simply modify them. Trust me. Try it, and you will understand. If you don't like it go back to writing everything from scratch. http://www.shorewall.net JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage
Mine has grown to 2gb - is it safe to delete it? Not as bad as my distfiles though, which have gone to over 5gb :\ -- This line intentionally left blank. 00:32:25 up 10 days, 4:44, 3 users, load average: 0.20, 0.11, 0.24 RX bytes:3264069535 (3112.8 Mb) TX bytes:1625611716 (1550.3 Mb) E-mail address munged to prevent spam. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Scared of New Kernel ebuild
Hey All, I see that there is a newer ebuild for the Gentoo Sources ebuild. (I last compiled from 2.4.20-r7 and it's offering r8). Should I emerge it? Should I skip it? Should I emerge and recompile the kernel? Will it overwrite my old configuration? Etc... Sorry if this has been asked but all I can seem to find in the forums is about going from 2.4.x to 2.6.x. Thanks! Matt -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: No. It agreed with the docs from Jan's site so I left it. BTW - Did you ever try changing the fstab entry that Jack is using? Cool. I'll go back and look at that again carefully. The values I gave you before were the ones on my PlanetCCRMA Redhat box. Those values are probably specific to the way Fernando built those RPMs. There is something strange going on with my system and Jack. qjackctl (nd Jack in a terminal) ran, and then it wouldn't run. I finally did a complete power down, rebooted, and it ran, once, and then it wouldn't run again. It seems to be complaining about shm stuff which is why I asked what you did. I've just rebooted and Jack is running with qjackctl. I can stop and restart it fine right now. Very strange. I haven't had problems like this in a long time. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuild x11-libs/openmotif broken?
Hi! trying to build x11-libs/openmotif I receive the following error: /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:1655: parse error before XmConvertCallbackStruct send.c: In function `WSMSendMessage': send.c:92: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetTimestamp' make[3]: *** [send.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm/WmW smLib' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 38, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed Is this ebuild broken at the moment? -- Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge dependency problem ??
Hello !! I am new to gentoo and i don't know if what i think is a problem it really is. Butfor example when i want to download midnight commander i am typing something like this emerge app-misc/mc and before gentoo downloads mc it downloads whole x enviroment when i want to download samba using emerge it downloads something like jpeg and tiff libraries what wrong am i doin' ?? or what's wrong with my dependencies ?? thanks for help Kamil
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Cdrom from floppy?
see man grub / info grub Am Samstag, 1. November 2003 20:22 schrieb Jeffrey Smelser: I remember on this list someone said there was a way to boot from cdrom, even when the bios doesn't support it. Like using a floppy I think. I have been googling for awhile now and can't find it.. Can someone put me in the right direction?? or did I just dream this? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- visit tux online: http//www.tuthtu.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Ebuild x11-libs/openmotif broken?
Hi! trying to build x11-libs/openmotif I receive the following error: /usr/X11R6/include/Xm/Xm.h:1655: parse error before XmConvertCallbackStruct send.c: In function `WSMSendMessage': send.c:92: warning: implicit declaration of function `GetTimestamp' make[3]: *** [send.o] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm/WmW smLib' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients/mwm' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/openmotif-2.2.2-r1/work/openMotif-2.2.2/clients' make: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 !!! ERROR: x11-libs/openmotif-2.2.2-r1 failed. !!! Function src_compile, Line 38, Exitcode 2 !!! make failed Is this ebuild broken at the moment? -- Thomas -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] /var/tmp/portage
Mine has grown to 2gb - is it safe to delete it? Yes. Not as bad as my distfiles though, which have gone to over 5gb :\ That's amazing. I have a central distfiles folder for 5 machines - and it never exceeds 1,1GB :) Maybe you should take a look at the files inside and delete old version of software tarballs. Especially look for gnome-packages, mysql, apache, gcc and xfree - as these tarballs tend to be very big. Remove any old versions you encounter, that will definitly save gigabytes on your harddrive :) Greetings, Dennis -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Ebuild x11-libs/openmotif broken?
Please stop reposting this again and again! It will not help getting faster answers. Greetings, Dennis P.S.: Sorry, but I don't know anything about openmotif - nor seems to be a bugreport about that @ bugs.gentoo.org. Have you tried to emerge it a second time ? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Jan answered my email on ardour-users mail list and had me run it in root. Ardour runs fine as root. I figure he was just trying to find out if it even runs. I'd like to run it as user although I understand the realtime jack doesn't run except as root. At this point I don't think I need that. These problems keep us from getting too complacent G. On Saturday 01 November 2003 19:34, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 15:58, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: No. It agreed with the docs from Jan's site so I left it. BTW - Did you ever try changing the fstab entry that Jack is using? Cool. I'll go back and look at that again carefully. The values I gave you before were the ones on my PlanetCCRMA Redhat box. Those values are probably specific to the way Fernando built those RPMs. There is something strange going on with my system and Jack. qjackctl (nd Jack in a terminal) ran, and then it wouldn't run. I finally did a complete power down, rebooted, and it ran, once, and then it wouldn't run again. It seems to be complaining about shm stuff which is why I asked what you did. I've just rebooted and Jack is running with qjackctl. I can stop and restart it fine right now. Very strange. I haven't had problems like this in a long time. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cat /proc/version: propolice?
begin quote On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 11:54:45 -0600 Stephen Boulet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What is propolice? Does it mean I'm all for the police, or is it Italian for fast linux distro? Hmm, I wonder if it's the test name of the prepatch ... # cat /proc/version Linux version 2.4.23-pre3 ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) (gcc version 3.3.2 20031022 (Gentoo Linux 3.3.2-r2, propolice)) #1 Sat Nov 1 07:55:10 CST 2003 google: gentoo propolice : im feeling lucky http://dev.gentoo.org/~method/propolice.html 1.What is ProPolice? ProPolice is a GCC extension for protecting from stack-smashing applications. It is a implemented as a patch to GCC which will automatically insert protection code into your programs at compile time. It is developed by Hiroaki Etoh at IBM. For more information visit the official ProPolice website. http://www.trl.ibm.com/projects/security/ssp/ //Spider -- begin .signature This is a .signature virus! Please copy me into your .signature! See Microsoft KB Article Q265230 for more information. end pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] kernel bug on shutdown (umount segfault)
I'm getting the following error whenever I shutdown or restart: kernel BUG at inode.c:1105! invalid operand: CPU:0 EIP:0010:[c01e2388] Not tainted EFLAGS: 00010246 eax: cd03ca20 ebx: cd03ca20 ecx: cd03cb34 edx: cd03cb34 esi: cd160600 edi: ebp: d08fc3c0 esp: ce3e3f48 ds: 0018 es: 0018 ss: 0018 Process umount (pid: 7079, stackpage=ce3e3000) Stack: cd160600 cd1606c4 cde95190 d08f69c3 cd03ca20 cd160640 cd160600 c01d3ebc cd160600 d08fc428 ce3e3f88 ce3e2000 bfff8858 c01e3e2d cd160600 cde95190 c1abe510 ce2c44bc ce2c44b0 ce4d4210 0009 0001 bfff8798 Call Trace:[d08f69c3] [c01d3ebc] [d08fc428] [c01e3e2d] [c01e3e97] [c019eb73] Code: 0f 0b 51 04 95 dd 30 c0 e9 17 fe ff ff 8d 76 00 8b 54 24 04 /sbin/rc: line 141: 7079 Segmentation fault umount -a -r -n -t nodevfs,noproc,nosysfs,notmpfs /dev/null I suppose that means that umount is segfaulting. I've STFW'ed, and only found a similar error on the kernel mailing list, and one reply claimed that it was fixed in 2.4.20-pre11. Apparently not -- I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r8 -Eamon -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 17:26, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Jan answered my email on ardour-users mail list and had me run it in root. Ardour runs fine as root. I figure he was just trying to find out if it even runs. I'd like to run it as user although I understand the realtime jack doesn't run except as root. At this point I don't think I need that. These problems keep us from getting too complacent G. Yep, you're right. Run Jack and Ardour as root and it's fine. I did a quick 8 channel recording. No problems. Thanks for the info. Now, are you going to use it? ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] optimum disk performance
For what it's worth, I use the -u1 flag on both my DVD-ROM and my DVD-RW. Why? Well, it was driving me nuts that anytime I would copy large amounts of data from the DVD-ROM or burn a DVD-R that the data rate on my modem went to almost zero. Turns out that since the COM port interrupts aren't considered as important as the IDE interrupts, that the modem was simply getting no interrupt time. Or at least this is how I understood what I could find via google. Unmasking the irq on both devices completely fixed the problem. Occassionally when I switch kernels, I think about checking to see if the setting is still required, but I haven't tried it recently. Just my 2c. Sean On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 16:57, Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:17, Dennis Freise wrote: On Thu, 30 Oct 2003 19:13:22 +0100 Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Volker, hdparm -d1 -c1 -u1 should be save. Are you sure that -u1 is safe? I've read the hdparm man page, but I (obviously) didn't understand it in full - is -u1 safe for _all_ chipsets now (got some sort of CMD640 chipset...) ? If it is, what can I expect from it concerning speedup ? as man hdparm says: -u Get/set interrupt-unmask flag for the drive. A setting of 1 permits the driver to unmask other interrupts during processing of a disk interrupt, which greatly improves Linux's responsive- ness and eliminates serial port overrun errors. the chipsets mentioned there are from the stone age of ide-controllers. If you have one of them, you do not need to worry about dma etc ;o) And man hdparm further says, that the kernels 2.0.13 and later incorporate an apropriate bug fix. If you do not believe man, don't use it. I am using this options since ages without probs but with other chipsets. (SiS 735, 746, hpt366 , via kt133 (I do not know the southbridge anymore, AFAIR an udma 66 type.)) Glück Auf Volker -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
Well, I think so - after all this trouble I need to do something with it.G. However, I still would like to know why I have to do it as root but until that gets answered I'll just su - and run jack, then go to another xterm and run ardour. It would be nice if jack would go to the background The root requirement bothers me. Before I do anything with it I'm going back to read the Ardour help and ProTools reference manual I downloaded so I can figure out how to record! I tried to record but couldn't get the connections correct so I got nothing. Of the others I'll probably also try Audacity as it seemed to work for me better and I could make sense of it. Rezound just doesn't click with me and sweep seems to be more an editor than letting you record. I have to record into a selction but I don't have one when I'm starting new! On Saturday 01 November 2003 21:21, you wrote: On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 17:26, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Jan answered my email on ardour-users mail list and had me run it in root. Ardour runs fine as root. I figure he was just trying to find out if it even runs. I'd like to run it as user although I understand the realtime jack doesn't run except as root. At this point I don't think I need that. These problems keep us from getting too complacent G. Yep, you're right. Run Jack and Ardour as root and it's fine. I did a quick 8 channel recording. No problems. Thanks for the info. Now, are you going to use it? ;-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] multiple nics
Hi, I've got two 3 Com 3C589 pcmcia cards that won't play nice. Each work separately but plugging a second one in when the system is running, which is what i need to do, causes my /var/run/stab to look like this: Socket 0: 3Com 589 Ethernet 0 network 3c589_cs0 eth0 Socket 1: 3Com 589 Ethernet So it looks like cardmgr recognizes the card properly but there is failure somewhere along the line because it is not brought up as eth1 as it should. Perhaps this is a feature or design issue rather than a bug? I really don't know. Reading man pages and google didn't help me solve this. Where should I begin? I want it to brought up as eth1 with a manual configuration of the IP address, netmask, etc. Thanks, GENLIN()()1 __ Post your free ad now! http://personals.yahoo.ca -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mapping script to Fn key?
On Friday 31 October 2003 18:16, Chris Graves wrote: Is there a way for me to cause a script to run when, say, F11 is pressed? You can use xbindkeys under X. -- Jesper 00:27:23 up 4:31, 1 user, load average: 0.93, 1.25, 0.59 -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Jack-audio-connection
On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 18:36, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: Well, I think so - after all this trouble I need to do something with it.G. However, I still would like to know why I have to do it as root but until that gets answered I'll just su - and run jack, then go to another xterm and run ardour. It would be nice if jack would go to the background The root requirement bothers me. Yes, it bothered me too. Paul Davis has some comments about that in the README, and possibly on his web site. The PlanetCCRMA kernel uses a patch called the capabilities patch which grants certain root capabilities to a user. The Planet flow is set up to use a program called jackstart (which we don't have on Gentoo, but I have requested in the past) which then allows you to run as a user but still get realtime capabilities. I'm pretty sure that on my Planet box I can run Ardour as a user this way, but I don't really remember. Paul's pretty lax about this sort of thing. Of course, he'll tell you the program is beta so you shouldn't be surprised if it blows your machine away! (Fortunately that has not happened to the best of my knowledge!) Before I do anything with it I'm going back to read the Ardour help and ProTools reference manual I downloaded so I can figure out how to record! I tried to record but couldn't get the connections correct so I got nothing. Of the others I'll probably also try Audacity as it seemed to work for me better and I could make sense of it. Rezound just doesn't click with me and sweep seems to be more an editor than letting you record. I have to record into a selction but I don't have one when I'm starting new! Yep, they're all different, and thanks to the architecture of Alsa, pretty much every sound card works a little differently. None the less, at least for live audio Audacity is very easy to use. For recording a CD I don't know how to use it, or if it can be used. Cheers, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel bug on shutdown (umount segfault)
On Sat, 01 Nov 2003 18:10:37 -0800, Eamon Caddigan muttered: kernel BUG at inode.c:1105! invalid operand: ... /sbin/rc: line 141: 7079 Segmentation fault umount -a -r -n -t nodevfs,noproc,nosysfs,notmpfs /dev/null I suppose that means that umount is segfaulting. I've STFW'ed, and only found a similar error on the kernel mailing list, and one reply claimed that it was fixed in 2.4.20-pre11. Apparently not -- I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r8 Actually, it means that the *kernel* is segfaulting at unmount. Yikes. Try a 2.4.22+ kernel and see if it persists? (OT: How the heck does the shell manage to spit out a segmentation-fault message after a kernel panic?) -- Andrew Farmer [EMAIL PROTECTED] pgp0.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables firewall+nat problem
I have been running my own personally developed IPTABLES ruleset since I converted from ipchains to iptables. My topology is is pretty simple: WAN (cable modem) --- eth1 [FW] eth0 --- [HUB] -- [LAN boxes] Note that I am forwarding port 25 from the FW to an internet mail server. This thread caused me to take a closer look at both shorewall, and gsheild (I think it was). I actually emerged shorewall, and attempted to configure it. In the end I found it more confusing than my own custom built script. Which I have pretty extensively tested. (and which I will be happy to share if any one is interested). Frankly, I like understanding what is going on under the covers... so I unmerged shorewall, and went back to using my script. On Sat, 2003-11-01 at 19:17, Joshua Banks wrote: --- Simon_Khling [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I wonder if your firewall is blocking ping scans. Disable the firewall and see if you can ping google. well, you are right - disabling the firewall makes ping work again. maybe it is easier to build my own script from scratch instead of using the one from gentoo-security-guide. If you insist. Your making allot of extra work for yourself. Shorewall already has all of the scripts that you need. All you need to do is simply modify them. Trust me. Try it, and you will understand. If you don't like it go back to writing everything from scratch. http://www.shorewall.net JBanks __ Do you Yahoo!? Exclusive Video Premiere - Britney Spears http://launch.yahoo.com/promos/britneyspears/ -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list