Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

2003-11-22 Thread Matthew Kennedy
Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 I'm looking for a good IRC client. I've used both BitchX, which is
 great, and Mozilla's IRC client, which is very feature poor. I'd just
 use BitchX, but I want an X app. Can anyone recommend anything?

[...]

If you're used to Emacs, try app-emacs/erc -- it works in X and
console since Emacs works in X and console.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New software in portage

2003-11-22 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi,

The website seems in Portuguese

B.R.
Stephen Liu
SMS WebMaster wrote:

Hi

I have found a very nice program at http://www.agata.org.br/index.php

I want to send this link to protage team so they add it in to portage 
, can anyone tell me what is there email ?

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[gentoo-user] cant boot gentoo

2003-11-22 Thread Chris
Hi all,

I rebooted and logged in this afternoon after some updates last night and
everything looked like it was fine. I then logged on to the net to get my
email but had to log back off a minute later when a customer showed up. I
took care of the customer came back in and tryed to get back on line but my
modem wasnt being initialized (ok fine kppp had done this several times
before just reboot and it works fine again) not this time. So I had kppp
query the modem and found that there was nothing. This happened once before
I just had to reinstall the modem drivers and everything would work again.
So I proceeded to reinstalled the drivers and the machine locks up nothing
works. I do a hard reboot and end up with the following:



Starting devfsd...
Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev bad WHEN in config line:
msgid +++ program exit @ %s exiting   [!!]

Checking root filesystem...

Failed to open the filesystem.

If the partition table has not been changed, and the partition is valid and
it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the superblock is corrupted
and you need to run this utility with --rebuild-sb.

warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/hdb3 exited with signal 6.

*Filesystem couldnt be fixed :(   [!!]

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Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

2003-11-22 Thread purslow
031122 Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 i installed Gentoo 031015  am very pleased with it, but still learning.
 there are  4  daemons in  /etc/init.d  for remote access to my box:
  sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd .  i've checked their man pages
  all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want.
 two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from  init.d
 without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ?
 and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system,
 when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ?
 and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in  init.d ?
 Just because they are in /etc/init.d does not mean that they are running. 
 They are only running if *you* did 'rc-update add service default'.

yes, sorry for the rather naive question:
i knew re  runlevels , but hadn't remembered re  init.d .

 You can double check this by running 'rc-status'.
 If they are not in the list, then they don't start by default.

   rc-status
  bash: rc-status: command not found

don't you have to do it per daemon, eg '.../adsl status' ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Philosophical(?) question about 'emerge unmerge'

2003-11-22 Thread purslow
031121 Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 'emerge depclean' is bad and evil and should not be used.
 Plain old 'depclean' (comes with gentoolkit) is a much better tool

that sb 'dep-clean' (smile).  the output on my system is a bit strange:

  There appears to be an unresolved dependency in your world file.
  Please check for masking errors or other world file issues  then try again.

  The following is the emerge output for your reference:

  These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

  Calculating dependencies   
  !!! all ebuilds that could satisfy =app-cdr/xcdroast-0.98_alpha14-r2
  have been masked.

  !!! Error calculating dependencies. Please correct.

i have dropped  USE=~x86  since emerging some things, which may confuse it:
'emerge -p xcdroast' wd cause a downgrade.

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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

2003-11-22 Thread Ulrich Rhein
Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Anything like Mirc for Windows?

If you actually want mirc, you can use mirc with wine.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoos (OT)

2003-11-22 Thread purslow
031118 mathieu perrenoud wrote:
 All answers about gentoo ;-)
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_and_Barbara_Barham/gentoo.htm
 more pictures:
 http://images.google.com/images?q=gentoo+-linux

great! i sent the URLs to my ornithologist friend (who doesn't know Linux).

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[gentoo-user] Gentoo on older Laptop

2003-11-22 Thread Guy Van Sanden
Hello 

I've been using Gentoo on my desktops for a couple of weeks now, and I
really like it.
So I wanted to fit my laptop with it, it's a PII 366 Mhz with 128 MB
Ram.

But it is way to slow to compile stuff from source (vi might still work,
but KDE or even system would take a lifetime.

Is there any way to keep it semi-current between Gentoo releases using
mainly binary packages?
If yes, is there any documentation about this (where to find packages,
how to install them)?

Thanks

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Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

2003-11-22 Thread mathieu perrenoud
On Saturday 22 November 2003 09:18, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  i installed Gentoo 031015  am very pleased with it, but still learning.
  there are  4  daemons in  /etc/init.d  for remote access to my box:
   sshd slapd slurpd rsyncd .  i've checked their man pages
   all appear to be running as servers for things i don't need or want.
  two questions: am i correct that i can remove these scripts from  init.d
  without interfering with the ordinary functioning of my system ?
  and why are they set up by default on a Gentoo system,
  when they cd cause a security problem for a naive -- mb me -- user ?
  and perhaps a 3rd question: are there any other similar items in  init.d
  ?
 
  Just because they are in /etc/init.d does not mean that they are running.
  They are only running if *you* did 'rc-update add service default'.

 yes, sorry for the rather naive question:
 i knew re  runlevels , but hadn't remembered re  init.d .

  You can double check this by running 'rc-status'.
  If they are not in the list, then they don't start by default.

    rc-status
   bash: rc-status: command not found

 don't you have to do it per daemon, eg '.../adsl status' ?

you can do it per daemon, but rc-status will actually test the status of all 
services registered to your current runlevel.

you can add a service to a runlevel with:
rc-update add service runlevel
and remove it with
rc-update del service runlevel

this will create/remove the symlink /etc/runlevels/runlevel/service
you can add or remove the links there yourself if you don't want to use the 
rc-tools. but don't remove things in /etc/init.d

rc-status is in /bin and is part of the baselayout ebuild. I think this one is 
included by default in gentoo. but if /bin/rc-status is not found, try 
re-emerging baselayout.


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Re: [gentoo-user] irc client

2003-11-22 Thread Kees Bergwerf
Op zaterdag 22 november 2003 01:23, schreef Andrew Gaffney:

 I'd just use BitchX,
 but I want an X app. Can anyone recommend anything?

I use xchat, it's a very nice program. You can write your own scripts in perl 
or python when the existing scripts are not what you are looking for, 
Customise your buttons, fonts,colors etc.
Have a look at http://www.xchat.org for screenshots and scripts etc.

-Kees

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on older Laptop

2003-11-22 Thread Sven Vermeulen
On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 11:14:53AM +0100, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
 Is there any way to keep it semi-current between Gentoo releases using
 mainly binary packages?

You can install Gentoo using the GRP. However, those packages aren't
maintained yet (the idea is there though).

What you can do is ask someone to compile the packages you need with your
CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/USE using emerge --buildpkgonly. Then he should hand you
over all created packages (in /usr/portage/packages) so you can install the
tools you want with emerge --usepkgonly.

Wkr,
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Re: [gentoo-user] XFS

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 22:10:19 -0800
Gregory P. Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 that was well over a year ago wasn't it?  what about todays XFS
 implementations in 2.4.22+patches or 2.6.0-test? 


The means of achieving their throughput increase is to whack around with
the buffecache and the sync code, making it not flush data to disk every
5 seconds or N blocks (as the current, all other FS do)  which -does- in
fact add afurther risk to the files in question.


Its a design principle here, really.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0500
Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt (just after
 an emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package to me, but
 I could be wrong.

The latter.



 
 Any thoughts graciously accepted ;-)

here, lets go through this :


 grep: /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory
 /bin/sed: can't read /usr/lib/liblinc.la: No such file or directory



Theese two lines are interesting, very so. They mean that a file in your
system is still referencing to linc (as stated in my previous
messages)


its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.

To find the package in question :
grep liblinc -r /usr/lib


Then go ahead and use qpkg -f  , to find the files that reference to it,
and rebuild those.  Then linc and all traces thereof will be earased
from your system.


Alternatingly, if you want to spend less work, but more time on it:
emerge -e evolution
   just rebuild all its deps in order and get it done with.. . I  don't
recommend it at all, but its an option.



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[gentoo-user] SMP Kernel

2003-11-22 Thread Tomas Johansson
Hi all,

I've recently installed Gentoo Linux on my home server and a like it.
Since it's a dual-CPU machine I need the SMP kernel, but I haven't 
managed to compile one.
I've browsed the online documentation, and yes, there are a whole bunch 
of different kernel, but no SMP.
How can I compile a SMP kernel for my system, preferrebly with 'genkernel'?

Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Dennis Freise
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 13:23:05 -0600
Jeffrey Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether
  courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me?
 
 Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the mbox
 format and your back to using huge files again  and the problems that go with
 it.

I really liked courier-imapd, because it's much faster than any
mbox-imap-server. Then I tried bincimap, which is also a IMAP4Rev1 server for
the maildir format. It's a little bit strange, because it doesn't get started by
xinetd or the like, but comes with its own spawning-daemon and log-daemon, but
when I compare performance, bincimap always wins over courier. It especially can
handle large folders much better than courier-imapd. I've got a folder with
30.000 messages in it, courier-imap in combination with sylpheed-claws takes
about 2 and a half minutes to check for new messages and sync them. bincimap
performs this task in about 20 seconds.
bincimap is in portage, and it can, without any problems, be installed in
parallel to courier-imapd. Give it a try, I like it :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange error message installing kde

2003-11-22 Thread Leif B. Kristensen
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 13:04:58 +0900, Jason Stubbs
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By default, emerge compiles packages in a sandbox. This prevents it from 
writing the main filesystem. That error is the package trying to create 
default qt settings for root which is being prevented by the sandboxing. If 
the compile doesn't die, it's almost always not a problem.

Thanks for the answer.

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[gentoo-user] Re: PIIXn tuning switch to allow my dell laptop to do udma5

2003-11-22 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
William Kenworthy wrote:
 what does hdparm -i /dev/hda show?

  This got me wondering about

wopr-mobile root # hdparm -i /dev/hda

/dev/hda:

 Model=IBM-DJSA-220, FwRev=JS4OAC7A, SerialNo=44T44T94436
 Config={ HardSect NotMFM HdSw15uSec Fixed DTR10Mbs }
 RawCHS=16383/16/63, TrkSize=0, SectSize=0, ECCbytes=4
 BuffType=DualPortCache, BuffSize=1874kB, MaxMultSect=16, MultSect=16
 CurCHS=16383/16/63, CurSects=16514064, LBA=yes, LBAsects=39070080
 IORDY=on/off, tPIO={min:240,w/IORDY:120}, tDMA={min:120,rec:120}
 PIO modes:  pio0 pio1 pio2 pio3 pio4
 DMA modes:  mdma0 *mdma1 mdma2
 UDMA modes: udma0 udma1 udma2 udma3 udma4
 AdvancedPM=yes: mode=0x80 (128) WriteCache=enabled
 Drive conforms to: ATA/ATAPI-5 T13 1321D revision 1:

 * signifies the current active mode

  Can my laptop's harddrive settings be tuned?

  TIA,
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[gentoo-user] reiserfs always replays log transactions during boot

2003-11-22 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
  For some time I know (IIRC since I upgraded to baselayout-1.8.6.12)
  reiserfs always replays a couple of log transactions during boot
  although I always unmount my partitions correctly.

  Any hint appreciated,
Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

2003-11-22 Thread Dennis Freise
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 11:46:26 +0100
mathieu perrenoud [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 rc-status is in /bin and is part of the baselayout ebuild. I think this one is
 included by default in gentoo. but if /bin/rc-status is not found, try 
 re-emerging baselayout.

'rc-update show' shows a list of services available on your system and at which
runlevel they're started - or not. I do like the output much more than
'rc-status' :)

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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Brenden Walker
 -Original Message-
 From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
 begin  quote
 On Fri, 21 Nov 2003 21:54:03 -0500
 Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  
  Well, here's the last bit of my most recent emerge attempt 
 (just after
  an emerge sync to make sure).  Looks like a broken package 
 to me, but
  I could be wrong.
 
 The latter.

Figures ;-)

 its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.
 
 To find the package in question :
 grep liblinc -r /usr/lib

Never woulda thought to grep libs.. sheesh.. all these years..

Turns out it was a bunch so far: libbonobo, libgtkhtml, gal, gnome-pilot

When I tried to rebuild libgtkhtml it crashed with a similar error (missing
liblinc.so), so I'm guessing that's simply that I need to fix something else
first.. ie fix all these libs in the right order.

Thanks, what I'm really wondering about is how in the heck did it get this
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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 08:27:07 -0500
Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Figures ;-)
 
  its a dependency of evolution, not evolution itself.
  
  To find the package in question :
  grep liblinc -r /usr/lib
 
 Never woulda thought to grep libs.. sheesh.. all these years..
 
 Turns out it was a bunch so far: libbonobo, libgtkhtml, gal,
 gnome-pilot
 
 When I tried to rebuild libgtkhtml it crashed with a similar error
 (missing liblinc.so), so I'm guessing that's simply that I need to fix
 something else first.. ie fix all these libs in the right order.

Yep.  I'd start with bonobo 


 
 Thanks, what I'm really wondering about is how in the heck did it get
 this way.

thats simple. 
once, ORBit2 depended on linc.
then, ORBit2 took in linc, and changed the interfaces to not collide,
and then never linked to linc again.

after that, all things that had been playing with linc, found themselves
with a dependency they didn't -need- because its already in ORBit2, and
the package was stale and left to die in peace.

however, some people dislike having a rotting package on their system,
and remove them, then the things that haven't been rebuilt against the
new ways will realize uh oh, I miss something and complain.. .and this
error propagates up to things like evilution.


the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, or start to
rebuild things.  


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RE: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Brenden Walker
 -Original Message-
 From: Spider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
snip

 Yep.  I'd start with bonobo 

Yeah, I think I've got most everything under control now..  


more snip
 the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, 
 or start to
 rebuild things.  

I prefer the latter, now that I know the proper method this should prove to
be much easier in the future.

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Re: [gentoo-user] SMP Kernel

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 12:03, Tomas Johansson wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've recently installed Gentoo Linux on my home server and a like it.
 Since it's a dual-CPU machine I need the SMP kernel, but I haven't
 managed to compile one.
 I've browsed the online documentation, and yes, there are a whole bunch
 of different kernel, but no SMP.
 How can I compile a SMP kernel for my system, preferrebly with 'genkernel'?

Pick your kernel source

genkernel --config

Processor type and features
Symmetric multi-processing support

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Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied

2003-11-22 Thread Ric Messier
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 
 Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show 
 all the groups I belong to?
 

grep username /etc/group



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[gentoo-user] ISDN and Linux 2.6

2003-11-22 Thread Simon Cahuk
Hi!

Had anyone any success with ISDN and test kernels? I have a AVM FRITZ PCI 
card. Any unofficial drivers (fcpci) or patches? 

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Stroller
On Nov 22, 2003, at 3:19 am, Neal Lippman wrote:
	My main reason for selecting cyrus over courier is that cyrus is able 
to
receive mail via lmtp as well as smtp, using a local socket for lmtp. 
The
reason that is useful is that I retrieve mail from my outside 
maildrops using
fetchmail, and fetchmail can deliver the mail to cyrus via lmtp so I 
don't
need to run an smtp server at all. If you are already running smtp, 
that may
be a less important feature for you.
I've been using courier about 6 months  I love it. I'm not sure what 
the lmtp you use is, but I use fetchmail  maildrop to grab mail from 
external POP3 accounts - it works very well.

I simply use this line at the start of my .fetchmailrc:
mda /usr/bin/maildrop -d $USER
Hence no local socket delivery system is required.

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Re: [gentoo-user] security: unwanted daemons

2003-11-22 Thread Luke Scharf
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 01:01, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Just because they are in /etc/init.d does not mean that they are running. They are 
 only 
 running if *you* did 'rc-update add service default'. You can double check this by 
 running 'rc-status'. If they are not in the list, then they don't start by default.

I often check what's on my own boxes by running nmap and nessus over the
network.

Nmap is a simple portscanner that will quickly show what ports are
available.

Nessus is a big-hammer security scanner.  It will show you what's
running, and any number of ways that a potential attacker could try to
exploit your system.  If you tell it not to be nice, it will actually
try a few hundred exploits and tell you whether they worked.

These tools are very useful and worth using if you're at all concerned
about security.

But, if you run them against someone else's machine, you will probably
piss them off.  For instance, if you happen to run nmap against my
university's DNS servers, even from off campus, they will have your ISP
call you for a little chat. Not that I'd know...  :-)

I don't even want to know what they'd have to say if I ran Nessus
against one of their machines...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Evolution missing dependancy on linc package?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 09:03:50 -0500
Brenden Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 Yeah, I think I've got most everything under control now..  

Good. :)
 
 
  the solutions are either to leave linc and forget about it, 
  or start to rebuild things.  
 
 I prefer the latter, now that I know the proper method this should
 prove to be much easier in the future.


Yeah, its always nice to learn how things hang together.. Too bad this
bit you, as that was what we have struggled to avoid (I take the rather
lack of theese kinds of posts as a sign that we have succeeded for most
users)


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[gentoo-user] vlc compile error

2003-11-22 Thread Oliver Lange
Hi everyone,

When i try to compile vlc-0-6.2, compiling fails with the following
error(s):
  vlcshell.cpp:209: syntax error before `)' token
  vlcshell.cpp: In function `NPError NPP_SetWindow(NPP_t*, NPWindow*)':
  vlcshell.cpp:456: `struct NPSetWindowCallbackStruct' has no member named `
 display'
  distcc[6704] ERROR: compile on bloody2 failed
  make[3]: *** [libplugin_a-vlcshell.o] Fehler 1
  make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.6.2/work/vlc-0.6.2/mozilla'
  make[2]: *** [all] Fehler 2
  make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.6.2/work/vlc-0.6.2/mozilla'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Fehler 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/vlc-0.6.2/work/vlc-0.6.2'
  make: *** [all] Fehler 2
  !!! ERROR: media-video/vlc-0.6.2 failed.
  !!! Function src_compile, Line 211, Exitcode 2
  !!! make failed
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Re: [gentoo-user] cant boot gentoo

2003-11-22 Thread Ernie Schroder
On Saturday 22 November 2003 02:45 am, Chris wrote:
 Hi all,

 I rebooted and logged in this afternoon after some updates last
 night and everything looked like it was fine. I then logged on to
 the net to get my email but had to log back off a minute later when
 a customer showed up. I took care of the customer came back in and
 tryed to get back on line but my modem wasnt being initialized (ok
 fine kppp had done this several times before just reboot and it
 works fine again) not this time. So I had kppp query the modem and
 found that there was nothing. This happened once before I just had
 to reinstall the modem drivers and everything would work again. So
 I proceeded to reinstalled the drivers and the machine locks up
 nothing works. I do a hard reboot and end up with the following:

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 Starting devfsd...
 Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev bad WHEN in
 config line: msgid +++ program exit @ %s exiting   [!!]

 Checking root filesystem...

 Failed to open the filesystem.

 If the partition table has not been changed, and the partition is
 valid and it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the
 superblock is corrupted and you need to run this utility with
 --rebuild-sb.

 warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/hdb3 exited with signal 6.

 *Filesystem couldnt be fixed :(   [!!]
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It looks to me (could be wrong) that in your update and subsequent 
etc-update, you overwrote your modem config and /etc/fstab. Hopefully 
you have a backup of the fstab on the machine. Boot the box to the 
live CD and check the fstab file. If it has been overwritten, use 
your backup or rewrite the file with nano-w.  Good luck. Let us know 
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Re: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems

2003-11-22 Thread Harlan
Hi Kathy,
  Thanks for trying to help.


On Wednesday 19 November 2003 03:15 am, Kathy Wills wrote:
 Did you do /etc/init.d/cupsd stop then /etc/init.d/cupsd start after
 doing your upgrades?
Yes, several times in fact.  I even rebooted the computer, making sure the 
printer was connected and turned on before turning on the computer again.  
The printer recognized the POST from the computer and reset itself.

 Is the parport module loaded?
I have it directly compiled into the kernel.  I'm using devfs, which does find 
a reason to create /dev/lp0; to which I can cat a text file to.

 Do you have any error messages regarding this in /var/log/cups?
I did have one Allow in the wrong place, corrected it, still no joy.

After I restarted the computer, I went back into the web browser, using the 
Add Printer wizard, I can enter the queue name, but when I click on 
Continue, I still do NOT get any devices listed in the Device drop-down 
box.  When I looked in /dev I had /dev/lp0 - printers/0  I changed the link 
to be /dev/lp0 - /dev/printers/0   I restarted the cupsd daemon, still with 
no joy.

Any other ideas?

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[gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
 I have in my home box a iptables firewall configured via shorewall with 
the standalone machine standard configuration (no services whatsoever to the outside
world). Just for good measure, I tryed portscanning from a computer at
work: (my dynamic IP number edited)
$ nmap -vv IP number

Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
No tcp,udp, or ICMP scantype specified, assuming vanilla tcp connect(
) scan. Use -sP if you really don't want to portscan (and just want t
o see what hosts are up).
Machine IP number MIGHT actually be listening on probe port 80
Host  IP number appears to be up ... good.
Initiating Connect() Scan against  IP number
Adding open port 80/tcp
Bumping up senddelay by 1 (to 1), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 2 (to 3), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 3 (to 6), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 4 (to 10), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 5 (to 15), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 6 (to 21), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 285000), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 36), due to excessive drops
Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 435000), due to excessive drops
The Connect() Scan took 1038 seconds to scan 1601 ports.
Interesting ports on  (IP number):
(The 1597 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port   State   Service
6/tcp  filteredunknown
25/tcp filteredsmtp
80/tcp openhttp
135/tcpfilteredloc-srv

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1038 second
s


The scanning from the home box itself gives a more reassuring outcome:

$ nmap -vv localhost
No tcp, udp, or ICMP scantype specified, assuming vanilla tcp connect()
scan. Use -sP if you really don't want to portscan (and just want to see
what hosts are up).

Starting nmap 3.27 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2003-11-22 14:54 WET
Host localhost (127.0.0.1) appears to be up ... good.
Initiating Connect() Scan against localhost (127.0.0.1) at 14:54
Adding open port 1/tcp
Adding open port 6000/tcp
The Connect() Scan took 0 seconds to scan 1623 ports.
Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
(The 1621 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
Port   State   Service
6000/tcp   openX11
1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt

Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.633 seconds


Now, why should nmap at the remote machine report that port 80 is open? I assume
that this happens because nmap is not supposed to be used when the
target has a firewall. Can I be right? And, if so, how can I check
whether the firewall is really working as expected?

Thanks for any help,
Jorge Almeida

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 15:33, Jorge Almeida wrote:
  I have in my home box a iptables firewall configured via shorewall with
 the standalone machine standard configuration (no services whatsoever to
 the outside world). Just for good measure, I tryed portscanning from a
 computer at work: (my dynamic IP number edited)
 $ nmap -vv IP number

 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )

 (The 1597 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
 Port   State   Service
 6/tcp  filteredunknown
 25/tcp filteredsmtp
 80/tcp openhttp
 135/tcpfilteredloc-srv

 The scanning from the home box itself gives a more reassuring outcome:

 $ nmap -vv localhost

 Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
 (The 1621 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
 Port   State   Service
 6000/tcp   openX11
 1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt

 Now, why should nmap at the remote machine report that port 80 is open? I
 assume that this happens because nmap is not supposed to be used when the
 target has a firewall. Can I be right? And, if so, how can I check whether
 the firewall is really working as expected?

You are right not to question ports 6, 25, and 135, they will be some sort of 
firewall/router in your path home.
Port 80 will almost certainly be open because someone along the line is 
trapping port 80 traffic, probably to send it off to a proxy. I do this 
myself on my home network, and have seen that same behaviour with an ISP I 
was on.

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[gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Paulo da Silva
I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.
I have searched the forum but got no answer.

BTW, is there any searchable archive of this list?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Tom Wesley
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 15:36, Paulo da Silva wrote:
 I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
 Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.
 
 I have searched the forum but got no answer.
 
 BTW, is there any searchable archive of this list?
 
 Thanks.
 

Post the output of emerge -uDpv world and someone might be able to
help.  Also yes, at http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/


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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
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 On Saturday 22 November 2003 15:33, Jorge Almeida wrote:

 Port 80 will almost certainly be open because someone along the line is 
 trapping port 80 traffic, probably to send it off to a proxy. I do this 
 myself on my home network, and have seen that same behaviour with an ISP I 
 was on.
 
I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean port 80 is really closed but appears open due 
to ISP intervention? I have privoxy installed, which uses port 8118. Could this be the 
kind of trapping you mention? 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Oliver Lange
Paulo da Silva wrote:
I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.
Apache is a web server (most used web server in the world, i guess).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread ivan georgiev
 I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
 Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.


The same happens here: emerge -puD world wants to install apache. I guess 
something in portage is messed up ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] document to setup sound and iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Stephen Liu
Hi brett,

Thanks for your advice.

Gentoo 1.4
Linux version 2.4.20-gentoo-r7
genkernel-1.8
Creative Sound Blaster Live.
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I followed
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
Code listing 2.1: Kernel configuration to proceed
Some thing strange happened

# cd /usr/src/linux
# cp .config config-AA.bak
cp: cannot stat `.config': No such file or directory
# cp .config ~/
cp: cannot stat `.config': No such file or directory
# find / -name .config
/root/.conf
The .config file in under /root/

# cd /root/
# ls -al
..
.config
.
Shall I start from there

B.R.
Stephen

You don't need the driver from Alsa!!!  When you merge alsa-driver it 
will get what you need if you tell it.

First read the Gentoo doc.

Second, read the ALSA doc pertaining to your sound card. That's why I 
referenced Alsa - it gives you some information on setting up 
/etc/modules.d/alsa file.

Third set the environment variable to the card type which will tell 
Alsa to install just that driver rather than all of them.

Finally, merge alsa-driver, alsa-util, alsa-tools and set up the 
/etc/modules.d/alsa file for your card.

Then run modules-update

The run the rc-update per the Gentoo docs.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 22:51:48 +0800
 Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi brett,

Thanks for your advice. I will download corresponding driver from 
www.alsa-project.org relevant to my sound card, Creative Sound 
Blaster Live.  Previously I have installed this sound card on RH9 
without problem.  But I am inexperienced on Gentoo.  I hope I can 
manage.

Thanks

B.R.
Stephen
Yes, the alsa doc will work. Also check out www.alsa-project.org adn 
the details on your sound card.

On Thu, 20 Nov 2003 20:06:03 +0800
Stephen Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi folks

I am going to tune my Gentoo box 1.4 on

- Sound
- Iptables
I found following documents on Gentoo website

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/alsa-guide.xml
(remark: my box is running alsa chip)
http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-security.xml#doc_chap12
Kindly advise whether they are relevant.  Any additional document 
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Thanks in advance

B.R.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 15:56, Jorge Almeida wrote:

  Port 80 will almost certainly be open because someone along the line is
  trapping port 80 traffic, probably to send it off to a proxy. I do this
  myself on my home network, and have seen that same behaviour with an ISP
  I was on.

 I'm not sure I understand. Do you mean port 80 is really closed but appears
 open due to ISP intervention? I have privoxy installed, which uses port
 8118. Could this be the kind of trapping you mention?

Yes, port 80 is really closed on your box, and is open due to ISP 
intervention. Best way to know for sure is to do a 'netstat -nlp' on your 
machine, and see if any process is listening on port 80.
I'd imagine quite a lot force it's users through a farm of web proxies, no 
doubt saving them an awful lot of bandwidth, and support calls explaining 
what a web proxy is and why they have to use it.
If privoxy is a web proxy which you have to specifically tell your software 
about, then no. The kind of thing we are seeing here is a proxy/cache which 
you aren't supposed to know about, or be able to easily circumvent.

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird crashes. // eBay link.

2003-11-22 Thread Luke Scharf
The problem was that I had a pre-existing $HOME/.phoenix directory that
was unwriteable by me.

How it ended up being owned by root is another story that I'm
investigating -- but it probably involves some manual builds I did of
Firebird before I started running Gentoo.  (I usually don't rebuild my
/home when I rebuild my machine.)

-Luke

On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 10:50, Redeeman wrote:
 try do a ps aux and see if some MozillaFirebird stuff are there
 
 On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 16:38, Luke Scharf wrote:
  On Thu, 2003-11-20 at 07:53, John wrote:
   I am using 0.7...the link loads for me (I have cookies disabled, btw).
  
  I emerged MozillaFirebird, but it wouldn't start.  When I try to run it
  at the command line, I just get another prompt -- no error messages or
  other output.  Even if regular Mozilla isn't started.
  
  My USE variable is mmx acpi pcmcia cardbus gpm X gtk2 gnome mozilla
  -kde -qt.  I have regular Mozilla installed.
  
  Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated!
  
  Thanks,
  -Luke
  
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Paulo da Silva
Tom Wesley wrote:

On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 15:36, Paulo da Silva wrote:
 

I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.
I have searched the forum but got no answer.
...

   

Post the output of emerge -uDpv world and someone might be able to
 

...
Here it goes.
I saw the same question posted before (Andreas Koch) - thanks for the 
archive address - but
couldn't find any answer.


These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating world dependencies    ...done!
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/lib-compat-1.3 [1.2] 
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r2 [1.1.4-r1] 
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/gcc-config-1.3.4 [1.3.3-r1] 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/shadow-4.0.3-r8 [4.0.3-r7] +pam -selinux 
[ebuild U ] net-misc/dhcpcd-1.3.22_p4-r2 [1.3.22_p4-r1] -build -static 
[ebuild U ] app-portage/gentoolkit-0.1.36 [0.1.33] 
[ebuild U ] dev-lang/python-2.2.3-r5 [2.2.3-r1] +ncurses +gdbm +readline +tcltk 
+berkdb -build -doc +ssl 
[ebuild U ] dev-java/java-config-1.1.5 [0.2.8-r2] 
[ebuildFU ] dev-java/sun-jdk-1.4.2.02 [1.4.2.01] -doc -gnome +kde +mozilla 
[ebuild U ] sys-devel/binutils-2.14.90.0.6-r6 [2.14.90.0.6-r2] +nls -bootstrap 
-build 
[ebuild U ] sys-libs/glibc-2.3.2-r3 [2.3.2-r1] +nls -pic -build -nptl 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/man-pages-1.61 [1.60] 
[ebuild U ] app-arch/zip-2.3-r2 [2.3-r1] +crypt 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/vcron-3.0.1-r3 [3.0.1-r1] -selinux 
[ebuild U ] app-admin/fam-oss-2.6.10-r1 [2.6.9-r3] 
[ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-3.2.2-r1 [3.1.2-r4] +cups -nas -postgres +opengl -mysql 
-odbc +gif -doc 
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libvorbis-1.0-r4 [1.0-r2] -sse -3dnow 
[ebuild UD] dev-util/netbeans-3.4.1 [3.5.1] +kde -gnome 
[ebuild U ] net-misc/wget-1.9-r1 [1.8.2-r2] +ssl +nls -static -ipv6 -debug -socks5 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/diffutils-2.8.4-r4 [2.8.4-r3] +nls -build -static 
[ebuild U ] dev-util/cvs-1.11.9 [1.11.6] 
[ebuild  N] dev-perl/libvorbis-perl-0.04  
[ebuild U ] media-libs/libsdl-1.2.6-r2 [1.2.6-r1] -oss -alsa +esd +arts -nas +X 
-dga +xv -xinerama -fbcon -directfb -ggi +svga -aalib +opengl -noaudio -novideo 
-nojoystick 
[ebuild  N] media-libs/aalib-1.4_rc4-r2  +X +slang +gpm 
[ebuild U ] sys-apps/which-2.16 [2.14] 
[ebuild U ] media-gfx/sane-backends-1.0.12-r2 [1.0.12-r1] 
[ebuild U ] app-misc/mc-4.6.0-r3 [4.6.0-r2] +gpm +nls -samba +ncurses +X +slang 
[ebuild U ] dev-perl/Digest-MD5-2.26 [2.24] 
[ebuild U ] app-crypt/gnupg-1.2.3-r3 [1.2.3-r2] +X -ldap +nls -static -caps 
[ebuild U ] app-text/docbook-xsl-stylesheets-1.62.0-r1 [1.62.0] 
[ebuild U ] sys-cluster/openmosix-user-0.3.4-r1 [0.3.4] 
[ebuild  N] dev-util/yacc-1.9.1-r1  
[ebuild  N] net-www/apache-2.0.48-r1  +berkdb +gdbm -ldap 
[ebuild U ] net-www/mozilla-1.5-r1 [1.4-r3] +java +crypt -ipv6 -gtk2 +ssl -ldap 
-gnome -debug -mozcalendar -mozaccess -mozxmlterm -moznoirc -moznomail -moznocompose 
-moznoxft 

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[gentoo-user] dual boot on raid

2003-11-22 Thread Greg Donald

I have the Asus a7v333 motherboard with on-board raid.  I have two drives 
in a striped configuration.  On that raid array I have windows installed. 
Would it be possible for me to install Gentoo on there dual boot?  I've 
installed dual boot systems many times in the past but never across a raid 
array so I don't even know if it's possible.  I think I might give it a 
shot..  Any help, suggestions, or urls would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Mike Williams wrote:
 
 Yes, port 80 is really closed on your box, and is open due to ISP 
 intervention. Best way to know for sure is to do a 'netstat -nlp' on your 
 machine, and see if any process is listening on port 80.
I knew there had to exist something like that!:-)

 If privoxy is a web proxy which you have to specifically tell your software 
 about, then no.
It is that king of proxy,  very good to avoid ads and things like that.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 16:17:53 +
Paulo da Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Tom Wesley wrote:
 
 On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 15:36, Paulo da Silva wrote:
   
 
 I did an emerge sync. Now, emerge -DUp world includes
 Apache. What is Apache needed for!? I don't need Apache.
 


 Here it goes.
 
 I saw the same question posted before (Andreas Koch) - thanks for the 
 archive address - but couldn't find any answer.


try
qpkg -I -q apache (check your installed apps for dependencies to apache)

and qpkg -q apache  (Check all apps for dependencies to apache)


Now, By using the dissuaded and non-standard flag --deep you have cost
me a few minutes of time and a few more posts to a mailinglist. *sigh*  


If you really want to know what the heck is causing it, emerge -evp
world, then tag each of those packages with an emerge -vpuD pack 
until you find the thing that causes the break.   since you want deep
checking, thats about as deep as they become.


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[gentoo-user] Where's wineconsole?

2003-11-22 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I just merged wine, and I'm trying to use a console app with it. It says 
I need to run `wineconsole`, but as far as I can see, it didn't get 
installed. Is there an option or something that enables this?

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Re: [gentoo-user] dual boot on raid

2003-11-22 Thread Gilbert Jeiziner
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 10:21:09 -0600 (CST)
Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 
 I have the Asus a7v333 motherboard with on-board raid.  I have two
 drives in a striped configuration.  On that raid array I have windows
 installed. Would it be possible for me to install Gentoo on there dual
 boot?  I've installed dual boot systems many times in the past but
 never across a raid array so I don't even know if it's possible.  I
 think I might give it a shot..  Any help, suggestions, or urls would
 be greatly appreciated.
 

Have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml where
at the end (paragraph 27) there is an explanation to install gentoo with
ata raid.

Hope this helps.

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[gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread SMS WebMaster
Hi

When I scan my PC using nmap I can get my PC OS (linux 2.4.X) , how 
can I disable this in my PC, so when someone scan my PC he can't get any 
information at all about me ?

Thank you

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Re: [gentoo-user] SMP Kernel

2003-11-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
Run  make menconfig and under processor type is an option for it.

On Saturday 22 November 2003 07:03, you wrote:
 Hi all,

 I've recently installed Gentoo Linux on my home server and a like it.
 Since it's a dual-CPU machine I need the SMP kernel, but I haven't
 managed to compile one.
 I've browsed the online documentation, and yes, there are a whole bunch
 of different kernel, but no SMP.
 How can I compile a SMP kernel for my system, preferrebly with 'genkernel'?

 Best regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Where's wineconsole?

2003-11-22 Thread Oliver Lange
Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
I just merged wine, and I'm trying to use a console app with it. It says 
I need to run `wineconsole`, but as far as I can see, it didn't get 
installed. Is there an option or something that enables this?

Thanks in advance.


Try 'wine wcmd'

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Paulo da Silva
Spider wrote:

...

Now, By using the dissuaded and non-standard flag --deep you have cost
me a few minutes of time and a few more posts to a mailinglist. *sigh*  
 

How could I know --deep was a dissuaded and non-standard flag?
I have used it to upgrade my system and got no major problems so far.
Im am not the only one. May be this should be more (better?) documented.
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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread Martin Hudec
Hm I think nmap is checking various parameters of packets from scan like TTL 
and such each OS has its predefined values for parameters of packets...
It is called TCP/IP fingerprinting yes I just browsed a bit nmap's 
site here it is:
http://www.nmap.org/nmap/nmap-fingerprinting-article.html

On Saturday 22 November 2003 17:41, SMS WebMaster wrote:
 Hi
 When I scan my PC using nmap I can get my PC OS (linux 2.4.X) , how
 can I disable this in my PC, so when someone scan my PC he can't get any
 information at all about me ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 16:41, SMS WebMaster wrote:
 When I scan my PC using nmap I can get my PC OS (linux 2.4.X) , how
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 information at all about me ?

A firewall that drops all unknown incoming packets should do it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on older Laptop

2003-11-22 Thread Paul Varner
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 05:34, Sven Vermeulen wrote:
 On Sat, Nov 22, 2003 at 11:14:53AM +0100, Guy Van Sanden wrote:
  Is there any way to keep it semi-current between Gentoo releases using
  mainly binary packages?
 
 You can install Gentoo using the GRP. However, those packages aren't
 maintained yet (the idea is there though).
 
 What you can do is ask someone to compile the packages you need with your
 CFLAGS/CXXFLAGS/USE using emerge --buildpkgonly. Then he should hand you
 over all created packages (in /usr/portage/packages) so you can install the
 tools you want with emerge --usepkgonly.

I have a Pentium 233 that runs Gentoo.  I used the above method to build
it. (I used a chroot environment on the faster box, went through the
install, and then used tar to write the install to CD, which then went
on the slower box)  After that, I've let the machine compile the
majority of the updates that have come out.  For the recent glibc update
though, I again used my faster box to create tha package and then
transfered it over for installation.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Anyone here using golem or pekwm?

2003-11-22 Thread Bryan Traywick
On Nov 21, 2003, at 11:36 PM, Susie wrote:
snip
For pekwm I'm wondering if there is some
sort of pager around for it.  So far I've not found one and I've also
been unable to get wmpager or wmpc to work with it.
It's hard to say for sure which pager to use b/c pekwm can use both
workspaces and viewports. Which one you use will determine with
pager to use.  I don't know why wmpager doesn't work but the pager
for the gnome-panel works, the ROX panel works, and tpager
(http://s1x.homelinux.net/tpager.php) works, along with sereral others
if you are using workspaces, which i think is the default.  If you are
using viewports then the only pager I have found that works is
wampager.  Also if you are using the version that is portage (v. 0.1.3),
I would consider downloading the cvs version directly and using that
b/c a lot of new features have been added and is pretty stable(i've
been using the cvs version for about a year with little problems).
However, if you do use the cvs version, be sure to backup and rm
your ~/.pekwm directory b/c a lot of the configuration files have
changed and when you start the cvs version up for the first time it
will place the updated files in ~/.pekwm if it doesn't exists.  Good
luck with pekwm, it's the best wm I have ever used. Also, if you have
anymore questions I would recommend posting them to the pekwm-user
mailing list b/c the people there are really helpful.
As for golem the
only issue I'm having with it is I don't see an explaination anywere of
how to make it shade.  I quite like the ability to double click the
title bar and have things roll up on occasion.
Now, I don't know about golem b/c I've only used it for a couple of
minutes at a time and don't know much about it.
I'm busy with xmass type things and other stuff.  But I've found a few
more things I may make ebuilds for.  There is a theme tool wmtheme that
I don't see in portage masked or unmasked and a few gkrellm2 plugins
that also aren't in portage but gkrellm versions of them exist that 
wont
work with gkrellm2.
One more thing, I just remembered that someone made an ebuild
for the cvs verison of pekwm.  It is at 
http://codez.heckpart.homeip.net/~codez/gentoo/
You'll have to create a portage overlay though to use it. Hope that 
helps too.

Anyways if anyone has any ideas on what pager might work or how to do
the shading please pass it on.  I couldn't find anything on the online
docs nor what was installed that would enlighten me as what to do.
Hopefully one of the suggested pagers will work for you b/c pekwm rocks
once you realize all the neat features that it has that other wm's 
don't.
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[gentoo-user] mount /var/tmp/portage over nfs (solved)

2003-11-22 Thread Zhang, Peng
Thanks for the reply from Andrew and Luke. And you are right. I should
add no_root_squash in the nfs server setting. Now it works just fine.

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[gentoo-user] Re: djbdns setup questions

2003-11-22 Thread Tom Caudron
Eric said, It will take up to 48 hours to complete the global
propagation. Hopefully after that, all will work :-)

Well, the global propagation period is over and when I try to ping
www.kungfugamers.com I can see packets coming to my server box /trying/
to resolve the domain; however, it still doesn't seem to be working.

Specifically, if I issue a dig command it works great (I think), but if
I issue a ping command, it fails.  See results below:

 ping www.kungfugamers.com
ping: unknown host www.kungfugamers.com

 dig @68.15.153.133 a www.kungfugamers.com
 
;  DiG 9.2.2rc1  @68.15.153.133 a www.kungfugamers.com
;; global options:  printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; -HEADER- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 52385
;; flags: qr aa rd; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 1, ADDITIONAL: 1
 
;; QUESTION SECTION:
;www.kungfugamers.com.  IN  A
 
;; ANSWER SECTION:
www.kungfugamers.com.   86400   IN  A   68.15.153.133
 
;; AUTHORITY SECTION:
kungfugamers.com.   259200  IN  NS  a.ns.kungfugamers.com.
 
;; ADDITIONAL SECTION:
a.ns.kungfugamers.com.  259200  IN  A   68.15.153.133
 
;; Query time: 11 msec
;; SERVER: 68.15.153.133#53(68.15.153.133)
;; WHEN: Sat Nov 22 12:35:17 2003
;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 89

If I do a tcpdump when I issue the ping command, I see this:

 tcpdump -i eth1 | grep kungfugamers
01:26:50.613933 wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.32771 
ns1.hr.cox.net.domain:  64102+ A? www.kungfugamers.com. (38) (DF)
01:26:50.640367 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  2889 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:52.643584 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  39214 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:54.654252 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  44595 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:54.694642 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  31431 [1au] A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (51) (DF)
01:26:54.701554 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  1971 [1au] A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (52) (DF)
01:26:55.622348 wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.32772 
ns1.at.cox.net.domain:  64102+ A? www.kungfugamers.com. (38) (DF)
01:26:55.664038 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  32913 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:56.663969 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  1647 A? www.kungfugamers.com.
(38) (DF)
01:26:56.715620 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  62888 [1au] A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (51) (DF)
01:26:56.715803 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  32079 [1au] A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (52) (DF)
01:26:57.669443 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  57415 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:58.678490 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  59938 A? www.kungfugamers.com.
(38) (DF)
01:26:58.724300 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  3774 [1au] A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (51) (DF)
01:26:58.725045 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  33697 [1au] A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (52) (DF)
01:26:59.679235 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  43063 [1au] A?
www.kungfugamers.com. (49) (DF)
01:26:59.720503 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  12985 [1au] A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (51) (DF)
01:26:59.721009 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  59122 [1au] A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (52) (DF)
01:27:00.632170 wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.32771 
ns1.hr.cox.net.domain:  64102+ A? www.kungfugamers.com. (38) (DF)
01:27:00.744656 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  48619 A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (40) (DF)
01:27:00.744958 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  49177 A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (41) (DF)
01:27:01.689391 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  10503 A? www.kungfugamers.com.
(38) (DF)
01:27:01.729197 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  32184 [1au] A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (51) (DF)
01:27:01.729578 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  48860 [1au] A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (52) (DF)
01:27:02.754619 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  16252 A6?
shire.kungfugamers.com. (40) (DF)
01:27:02.754900 nrfkdnss01.rd.hr.cox.net.55048 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  53242 A6?
mordor.kungfugamers.com. (41) (DF)
01:27:03.699186 lkhndnss02.rd.at.cox.net.58754 
wsip-68-15-153-133.hr.hr.cox.net.domain:  32859 A? www.kungfugamers.com.
(38) (DF)

[gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Aaron Walker
I just converted my home LAN imap server from redhat 9 to gentoo 
(following my recent switch to gentoo as my desktop OS).  At first I 
installed postfix, procmail, fetchmail, and uw-imap because that's what 
I was using in redhat.  I am thinking about switching to courier-imap 
though and I had a few questions.

What steps should I take to convert from my current setup to one using 
courier-imap (besides emerge'ing courier-imap)?

Currently I am still using the default Mailbox mail box format in 
/var/spool/mail (and all the subfolders I created in my mozilla client 
were placed in my homedir).  Is there anyway I can convert these files 
over to the maildir format or do I have to just start from sratch with 
an empty inbox?

Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: [gentoo-user] unmerging source tarballs ?

2003-11-22 Thread William Lee
Oliver Lange wrote:

Hello everybody,

is there an emerge option for removing distfiles
(source tarballs) of packages which are no longer
installed ?
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Re: [gentoo-user] dual boot on raid

2003-11-22 Thread Greg Donald
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Gilbert Jeiziner wrote:

Have a look at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/gentoo-x86-install.xml where
at the end (paragraph 27) there is an explanation to install gentoo with
ata raid.

That looks easy enough, thanks.

So I booted with 'doataraid' but I can't load the module I need.

# modprobe pdcraid
/lib/modules/2.4.21-gss/kernel/drivers/ide/raid/pdcraid.o: init_module: No 
such device

I'm sure that's the one I need, but it won't load.

# dmesg|grep raid

Promise Fasttrak(tm) Softwareraid driver 0.03beta: No raid array found

The ataraid module loads, but that's it, I can't get the pdcraid module to 
load at all.  Where do I go from here?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread Paulo da Silva
Spider wrote:

...


If you really want to know what the heck is causing it, emerge -evp
world, then tag each of those packages with an emerge -vpuD pack 
until you find the thing that causes the break.   since you want deep
checking, thats about as deep as they become.

 

The packages needing apache are htdig and kdevelop. Do they really 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Emerge is including uneeded Apache! Why?

2003-11-22 Thread ivan georgiev
 If you really want to know what the heck is causing it, emerge -evp
 world, then tag each of those packages with an emerge -vpuD pack
 until you find the thing that causes the break.   since you want deep
 checking, thats about as deep as they become.

 The packages needing apache are htdig and kdevelop. Do they really
 need it?

Again, as I said, I can second that: emerge -puDv htdig/kdevelop shows 
dependence on apache. 
Of course kdevelop and htdig do not need apache.
I hope this will get fixed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread Grish
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SMS WebMaster wrote:

| When I scan my PC using nmap I can get my PC OS (linux 2.4.X) ,
| how can I disable this in my PC, so when someone scan my PC he
| can't get any information at all about me ?
The IP Personality netfilter module.

http://ippersonality.sourceforge.net/
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[gentoo-user] Installation stalls at wget

2003-11-22 Thread ejbr

I'm installing Gentoo on a laptop, and got to the emerge system step.  
Everything went smoothly until the system got to wget:

creating po/Makefile
cd  .   autoconf
/bin/sh line 1: autoconf: command not found
make: *** [configure] Error 127

!!! ERROR: net-misc/wget-1.9-r1 failed
!!! Function src_compile, Line 50, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)

Any advice appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread terry
There is another way to check your system - allow someone else to do it 
for free.  You can get a simple or a complete analysis of 
vulunerabilities at:

www.securitymetrics.com

It may not help your learn security, but it will give you peace of mind 
or point to your specific problem while you are learning.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread Grish
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terry wrote:

|
| There is another way to check your system - allow someone else to
| do it for free.  You can get a simple or a complete analysis of
| vulunerabilities at:
|
| www.securitymetrics.com
|
| It may not help your learn security, but it will give you peace of
| mind or point to your specific problem while you are learning.
I'm thinking you misread the thread... but thanks for the insight anyway!

I've been using the securitymetrics.com scanners for quite some time
now. I much prefer it to busting out my laptop and running the scans
myself.
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Re: [gentoo-user] unmerging source tarballs ?

2003-11-22 Thread mathieu perrenoud
 The distfiles should be in /usr/portage/distfiles. You can delete the
 source files in these.

don't delete everything if you plan to recompile some things. alsa-driver  
nvidia-kernel for instance have to be recompiled after each kernel rebuild.

I use distclean.py to clean my /usr/portage/distfiles
it has not yet destroyed anything.. so far ;-)

I've last seen it here:
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~foo/gentoo/

run it with '-p' to check what it will remove.

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Re: [gentoo-user] unmerging source tarballs ?

2003-11-22 Thread Oliver Lange
William Lee wrote:
is there an emerge option for removing distfiles
(source tarballs) of packages which are no longer
installed ?
The distfiles should be in /usr/portage/distfiles. You can delete the 
source files in these.

You want me to check 1000 gz files manually, piece-by-piece ?

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[gentoo-user] dhcpcd and Linux 2.6 ...

2003-11-22 Thread Thomas T. Veldhouse
It seems that dhcpcd works fine when used to option an IP address and
configuration for the 2.6 kernel.  However, it doesn't seem to report that
it was successful correctly (presumably it should be using the /sys
filesystem to determine this).  As a result, if net.eth0 starts up and is
instructed to use DHCP, it will think it failed and all subsequent network
dependencies will also not start.

So, is anybody aware of a fix for dhcpcd for the 2.6 kernel?  If not,
perhaps dhclient will work better?

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Re: [gentoo-user] update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, windows

2003-11-22 Thread KamaolaKid
I missed your previous post so forgive me if my question was answered in it.
In VC++ did you compile and run it in 'Release' mode?
I have a program that reads in a ~30 MB file in 13 seconds on my gentoo box,
but it would take over a minute in VC++...I later found out that I was
compiling
with all the debug flags set.

-- Kyle S.

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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Matt Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, windows



 - Original Message - 
 From: Matt Garman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 5:41 PM
 Subject: [gentoo-user] update: c++ performance: gentoo, debian, windows


 
  A while back I posted a message talking about the performance
  differences of a c++ program I wrote on gentoo and debian.  In the end,
  I chalked up the performance degrade on gentoo to my having built gcc
  with too many optimizations.  When I recompiled gcc with more
  conservative settings, my program ran as fast or faster on gentoo.
 
  If you recall, the processor/memory intensive part of my program is
  reading a 50,000+ line CSV file into memory.  On my gentoo box, it takes
  about 1.6 seconds to load this into memory.  On Windows, using MS Visual
  Studio 6.0, it takes five or six seconds to load into memory!
 
  I don't know how big a role computer speed plays, though.  My home
  computer (gentoo) is an Athlon XP 2500 with 1 GB of ram.  My work
  computer (windows) is a dual Xeon 1.5 GHz with 2 GB of ram.  Judging by
  Windows Task Manager, only one CPU is used to load the data.  So,
  loosely speaking, my home PC is 1.6 times faster, but the same process
  is 3.1 times slower (on my work PC).
 
  Again, this testing isn't scientific by any means, but I thought some
  folks might be interested.
 
  Looks good for gcc or AMD, in my opinion :)
  Matt
 


 It probably has more too do with machine load, disk I/O speed (in
particular
 transfer speeds), memory speed and latency also will have a large impact,
as
 well as the size of disk cache (some IDE drives have 8MB buffers in them
 which will likely do wonders on performance).  Also, it depends upon the
 efficiency of your code and how it does the parsing.  A good parser for
CSV
 files should not be extremely CPU intensive as the bottleneck really
should
 be I/O.

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Re: [gentoo-user] cant boot gentoo

2003-11-22 Thread Chris
fstab is right on the money along with the others i edited
Chris
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To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 9:45 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cant boot gentoo


 On Saturday 22 November 2003 02:45 am, Chris wrote:
  Hi all,
 
  I rebooted and logged in this afternoon after some updates last
  night and everything looked like it was fine. I then logged on to
  the net to get my email but had to log back off a minute later when
  a customer showed up. I took care of the customer came back in and
  tryed to get back on line but my modem wasnt being initialized (ok
  fine kppp had done this several times before just reboot and it
  works fine again) not this time. So I had kppp query the modem and
  found that there was nothing. This happened once before I just had
  to reinstall the modem drivers and everything would work again. So
  I proceeded to reinstalled the drivers and the machine locks up
  nothing works. I do a hard reboot and end up with the following:
 
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  Starting devfsd...
  Started device management daemon v1.3.25 for /dev bad WHEN in
  config line: msgid +++ program exit @ %s exiting   [!!]
 
  Checking root filesystem...
 
  Failed to open the filesystem.
 
  If the partition table has not been changed, and the partition is
  valid and it really contains a reiserfs partition, then the
  superblock is corrupted and you need to run this utility with
  --rebuild-sb.
 
  warning... fsck.reiserfs for device /dev/hdb3 exited with signal 6.
 
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 It looks to me (could be wrong) that in your update and subsequent 
 etc-update, you overwrote your modem config and /etc/fstab. Hopefully 
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Re: [gentoo-user] unmerging source tarballs ?

2003-11-22 Thread Oliver Lange
mathieu perrenoud wrote:
I use distclean.py to clean my /usr/portage/distfiles
it has not yet destroyed anything.. so far ;-)
I've last seen it here:
http://www.stacken.kth.se/~foo/gentoo/
run it with '-p' to check what it will remove.

Very handy. Thanks !

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[gentoo-user] Howto apply patches

2003-11-22 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Hello,

I would like to build a kernel with the same sources as the AMD64 LiveCD.

It was built with the 2.6.0test9 kernel and the bk patch.

I have emerged the gentoo-dev-sources   (2.6.0test9).

How do I properly apply the patch Gentoo style.
So I don't mess up portage or the source tree or whatever.
I searched the forums and didn't find the answer I was looking for.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Jimmie Houchin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto apply patches

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 20:21, Jimmie Houchin wrote:
 Hello,

 I would like to build a kernel with the same sources as the AMD64 LiveCD.

 It was built with the 2.6.0test9 kernel and the bk patch.

 I have emerged the gentoo-dev-sources   (2.6.0test9).

 How do I properly apply the patch Gentoo style.
 So I don't mess up portage or the source tree or whatever.

 I searched the forums and didn't find the answer I was looking for.

 Any help greatly appreciated.

What patch is this?
The process of emerging the kernel source will apply patches automatically. 
Look in the ebuild to find out what they are.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on older Laptop

2003-11-22 Thread Grish
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Guy Van Sanden wrote:

| Hello
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| I've been using Gentoo on my desktops for a couple of weeks now,
| and I really like it. So I wanted to fit my laptop with it, it's a
| PII 366 Mhz with 128 MB Ram.
|
| But it is way to slow to compile stuff from source (vi might still
| work, but KDE or even system would take a lifetime.
You can build the binary packages on your desktop systems, then
transfer them to your laptop. Just start installing new packages on
your desktops with emerge -b from now on. (Binary packages will appear
in /usr/portage/packages/All.) Copy the binary packages over to the
laptop, and use emerge -k  to install them.
Using the same USE variables on the laptop and desktops is helpful,
but not required. If you want to use seperate ones, you'll find
yourself building all packages twice on your desktop.
Finally, if you have a package already installed on one of your
desktops that you are satisfied with and would like to put on the
laptop, you can use quickpkg (might need to merge it in, I forget...)
to grab the existing binaries and put them into a binary package.
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Re: [gentoo-user] SMP Kernel

2003-11-22 Thread Simon Mushi
Tomas,

AFAIK, SMP has been in all linux kernels since 2.0. So enabling it is as
simple as enabling SMP-support in your kernel which can be done via make
menuconfig or whichever method u use to set kernel options, and then
recompile.

Hope it helps. I;ve been running a dual-PIII system with  2.4.20-gentoo-r5
#3 SMP for about 6 months.


Simon

On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, Tomas Johansson wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I've recently installed Gentoo Linux on my home server and a like it.
 Since it's a dual-CPU machine I need the SMP kernel, but I haven't 
 managed to compile one.
 I've browsed the online documentation, and yes, there are a whole bunch 
 of different kernel, but no SMP.
 How can I compile a SMP kernel for my system, preferrebly with 'genkernel'?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Stroller
On Nov 22, 2003, at 5:55 pm, Aaron Walker wrote:
Currently I am still using the default Mailbox mail box format in 
/var/spool/mail (and all the subfolders I created in my mozilla client 
were placed in my homedir).  Is there anyway I can convert these files 
over to the maildir format or do I have to just start from sratch with 
an empty inbox?
I can't see that this should be any problem at all. At the end of the 
day, the worst-case scenario is that you open the mboxes directly with 
an IMAP-capable mail-client  drag  drop them onto the new IMAP 
mailboxes.

But a quick grep of Freshmeat suggests this'll do what you require: 
http://perfectmaildir.home-dn.net/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on older Laptop

2003-11-22 Thread Aaron Walker
Grish wrote:

You can build the binary packages on your desktop systems, then
transfer them to your laptop. Just start installing new packages on
your desktops with emerge -b from now on. (Binary packages will appear
in /usr/portage/packages/All.) Copy the binary packages over to the
laptop, and use emerge -k  to install them.
Using the same USE variables on the laptop and desktops is helpful,
but not required. If you want to use seperate ones, you'll find
yourself building all packages twice on your desktop.
Finally, if you have a package already installed on one of your
desktops that you are satisfied with and would like to put on the
laptop, you can use quickpkg (might need to merge it in, I forget...)
to grab the existing binaries and put them into a binary package.
Too bad I didn't know about this last week... Spent Thursday through 
today (Sat) installing from stage 1 on a pentium-mmx 233 (my mail 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto apply patches

2003-11-22 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Mike Williams wrote:
On Saturday 22 November 2003 20:21, Jimmie Houchin wrote:

Hello,

I would like to build a kernel with the same sources as the AMD64 LiveCD.

It was built with the 2.6.0test9 kernel and the bk patch.

I have emerged the gentoo-dev-sources   (2.6.0test9).

How do I properly apply the patch Gentoo style.
So I don't mess up portage or the source tree or whatever.
I searched the forums and didn't find the answer I was looking for.

Any help greatly appreciated.


What patch is this?
The process of emerging the kernel source will apply patches automatically. 
Look in the ebuild to find out what they are.
It is the bk?? patches. Bringing the kernel to the latest development 
sources. I saw nothing in the portage tree which had the latest bk 
patches applied.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap can detect my OS

2003-11-22 Thread SN
Do you run any services?
SSHD Apache Mailserver???
If you do, then it makes no sense, to apply kernel patches or change some
variables in the kernel before you compile em, to fake your os.

An attacker can always find out what kind of box is running, even if you
fool tools like nmap, you won't fool a real pro.

Only if you use this box as a router without any services running it can be
of advantage, but if you already asked the question, then I don't think you
run any critical servers :-)


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 When I scan my PC using nmap I can get my PC OS (linux 2.4.X) , how
 can I disable this in my PC, so when someone scan my PC he can't get any
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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto apply patches

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 21:52, Jimmie Houchin wrote:

 It is the bk?? patches. Bringing the kernel to the latest development
 sources. I saw nothing in the portage tree which had the latest bk
 patches applied.

Ahh.
You could attempt to modify the ebuild to patch the source automatically, but 
I'd just do it manually after merging.
Portage does track the kernel source files, but it's not exactly needed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread SN

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From: Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2003 4:33 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables


 I have in my home box a iptables firewall configured via shorewall with
 the standalone machine standard configuration (no services whatsoever to
the outside
 world). Just for good measure, I tryed portscanning from a computer at
 work: (my dynamic IP number edited)
 $ nmap -vv IP number

 Starting nmap V. 3.00 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ )
 No tcp,udp, or ICMP scantype specified, assuming vanilla tcp connect(
 ) scan. Use -sP if you really don't want to portscan (and just want t
 o see what hosts are up).
 Machine IP number MIGHT actually be listening on probe port 80
 Host  IP number appears to be up ... good.
 Initiating Connect() Scan against  IP number
 Adding open port 80/tcp
 Bumping up senddelay by 1 (to 1), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 2 (to 3), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 3 (to 6), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 4 (to 10), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 5 (to 15), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 6 (to 21), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 285000), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 36), due to excessive drops
 Bumping up senddelay by 75000 (to 435000), due to excessive drops
 The Connect() Scan took 1038 seconds to scan 1601 ports.
 Interesting ports on  (IP number):
 (The 1597 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
 Port   State   Service
 6/tcp  filteredunknown
 25/tcp filteredsmtp
 80/tcp openhttp
 135/tcpfilteredloc-srv

Okay the output here means, the firewall is blocking 6, 25,135, since they
show up here you didn't completely drop all packages, but only block them,
this is usually safe.

80 is completely open, if you run apache, then apache will be available from
outside

 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 1038 second
 s


 The scanning from the home box itself gives a more reassuring outcome:

 $ nmap -vv localhost
 No tcp, udp, or ICMP scantype specified, assuming vanilla tcp connect()
 scan. Use -sP if you really don't want to portscan (and just want to see
 what hosts are up).

 Starting nmap 3.27 ( www.insecure.org/nmap/ ) at 2003-11-22 14:54 WET
 Host localhost (127.0.0.1) appears to be up ... good.
 Initiating Connect() Scan against localhost (127.0.0.1) at 14:54
 Adding open port 1/tcp
 Adding open port 6000/tcp
 The Connect() Scan took 0 seconds to scan 1623 ports.
 Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
 (The 1621 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
 Port   State   Service
 6000/tcp   openX11
 1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt

The reason why you get a completely different out put is, first of all, if
you scan localhost, then you scan only services that are bound to localhost.
Depends on your setup, just run nmap on your localbox but instead of
nmap --vv localhost specify your real IP of the interface that connects to
the internet.

Also because shorewall is usually setup to block only traffic coming in from
the device that connects to the internet the output will look different.
Therefore the scan from outside is much more important.


 Nmap run completed -- 1 IP address (1 host up) scanned in 0.633 seconds


 Now, why should nmap at the remote machine report that port 80 is open? I
assume
 that this happens because nmap is not supposed to be used when the
 target has a firewall. Can I be right? And, if so, how can I check
 whether the firewall is really working as expected?

 Thanks for any help,
 Jorge Almeida

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Re: [gentoo-user] reiserfs always replays log transactions during boot

2003-11-22 Thread SN
Do you really unmount the partitions by hand, or do you assume, that the
reiser partitions were umounted during a clean shutdown???

Because in the current stable version of baselayout there is a bug, which
prevents clean umounting of / reiser partitions, I reported this problem
some time ago and it is already fixed in the cvs version.


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   For some time I know (IIRC since I upgraded to baselayout-1.8.6.12)
   reiserfs always replays a couple of log transactions during boot
   although I always unmount my partitions correctly.

   Any hint appreciated,
 Sebastian

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Re: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session

2003-11-22 Thread SN
vncserver -geometry 1024x768

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Subject: [gentoo-user] Shrinking my TightVNC session


 G'day list,

 Quick question: my Gentoo PC runs at 1280x1024, but the XP laptop I VNC
into it from only goes up to 1024x768.  How can I change this so the new
resolution runs at the smaller resolution?

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Re: [gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Mike Williams
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On Saturday 22 November 2003 21:22, Stroller wrote:

 But a quick grep of Freshmeat suggests this'll do what you require:
 http://perfectmaildir.home-dn.net/

And very good it is too.
Just this evening I made the switch from exim/mbox(/var/spool/mail) to 
qmail/maildir(~/Maildir) at work. Had a good 150meg of mail to convert over 
nearly 50 users.

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[gentoo-user] XFce Systemload

2003-11-22 Thread Eric Paynter
I recently added the systemload plugin to my XFce panel. The problem
is that the bars don't show anything. The probes seem to be working
because if I hover over them, the numbers appear in tooltip
format. But nothing in the bars. Any idea how to fix this?

thx,

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] nmap/iptables

2003-11-22 Thread Jorge Almeida
  On Sat, 22 Nov 2003, SN wrote:

  (The 1597 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
  Port   State   Service
  6/tcp  filteredunknown
  25/tcp filteredsmtp
  80/tcp openhttp
  135/tcpfilteredloc-srv
 
 Okay the output here means, the firewall is blocking 6, 25,135, since they
 show up here you didn't completely drop all packages, but only block them,
 this is usually safe.
 
 80 is completely open, if you run apache, then apache will be available from
 outside

I don't run a web server, nor any other service.
  Host localhost (127.0.0.1) appears to be up ... good.
  Initiating Connect() Scan against localhost (127.0.0.1) at 14:54
  Adding open port 1/tcp
  Adding open port 6000/tcp
  The Connect() Scan took 0 seconds to scan 1623 ports.
  Interesting ports on localhost (127.0.0.1):
  (The 1621 ports scanned but not shown below are in state: closed)
  Port   State   Service
  6000/tcp   openX11
  1/tcp  opensnet-sensor-mgmt
 
 The reason why you get a completely different out put is, first of all, if
 you scan localhost, then you scan only services that are bound to localhost.
 Depends on your setup, just run nmap on your localbox but instead of
 nmap --vv localhost specify your real IP of the interface that connects to
 the internet.
 
 Also because shorewall is usually setup to block only traffic coming in from
 the device that connects to the internet the output will look different.
 Therefore the scan from outside is much more important.
 
 
I tried nmap -vv My IP instead of localhost and the outcome is still
OK. The explanation of Mike Williams must be right, and it is confirmed
by the output of netstat.

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[gentoo-user] GNOME Wireless Applet

2003-11-22 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
I'm trying to load the GNOME wireless link applet to track the strength 
of my connection, but when I load it, it just shows a big 'N/A' next to 
it. Preferences shows the correct network device (eth1). I am indeed 
connected through a wireless eth1 connection. I guess it should be noted 
that I can read /proc/net/wireless as a regular user.

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Re: [gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Keith Dart
On Sat, 2003-11-22 at 09:55, Aaron Walker wrote:
 I just converted my home LAN imap server from redhat 9 to gentoo 
 (following my recent switch to gentoo as my desktop OS).  At first I 
 installed postfix, procmail, fetchmail, and uw-imap because that's what 
 I was using in redhat.  I am thinking about switching to courier-imap 
 though and I had a few questions.
 
 What steps should I take to convert from my current setup to one using 
 courier-imap (besides emerge'ing courier-imap)?
 
 Currently I am still using the default Mailbox mail box format in 
 /var/spool/mail (and all the subfolders I created in my mozilla client 
 were placed in my homedir).  Is there anyway I can convert these files 
 over to the maildir format or do I have to just start from sratch with 
 an empty inbox?

I recently switched to an all-courier MTA/IMAP/maildir system and I
really like it. It comes with a lot of really good tools. And a lot of
man pages to read! I previously had procmail dropping mail to mbox
formatted ~/mail/INBOX for pine. I converted my old mail thusly:

cat mail/INBOX | reformail -f0 -s maildrop

But first, of course, you should have your maildrop configuration all
set up to your liking.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Aaron Walker wrote:
I just converted my home LAN imap server from redhat 9 to gentoo 
(following my recent switch to gentoo as my desktop OS).  At first I 
installed postfix, procmail, fetchmail, and uw-imap because that's what 
I was using in redhat.  I am thinking about switching to courier-imap 
though and I had a few questions.
if yo just want to get the ability to create subfolders of your folders 
or to use the maildir format yo can do that also which uw-imap
if you want to get rid of the folders in your homedir you can configure 
the location where they should be located, too.

for that you have to create /etc/c-client.cf and for each user a 
~/.imaprc wher you kan configure the options of imapd

Just have a look into imaprc.txt in the sources of uw-imap or onto their 
homepage (but there is not much about configuring without recompiling)

the only the fact that the uw-imap-team does not recommend this way
... but it works for me - I changed over to use the configuration files 
about a month ago and had no problems since then ...

I moved all the files to a subfoilder of my home and created some 
maildirs ...

Currently I am still using the default Mailbox mail box format in 
/var/spool/mail (and all the subfolders I created in my mozilla client 
were placed in my homedir).  Is there anyway I can convert these files 
over to the maildir format or do I have to just start from sratch with 
an empty inbox?
Of course not ...  mozilla supports local folders where you can move all 
the files while changing your imapd - but that only a workaround for 
very less users (or only yourself)   :-(

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Re: [gentoo-user] Announcing project Chinstrap

2003-11-22 Thread Azhdeen
On Saturday 22 November 2003 23:07, Spider wrote:
It started as an automated regression test of the tree, I wanted to
 see how much worked and didn't.

You mean you automated the compiling of the entire tree ?
just out of curiosity, any info on how long that regression testing takes ? 
does it still occur ?

I hope you don't torture a lonely single CPU on this ;-)

I suppose distcc and ccache can be quite important helpers in this project, 
right ?

Azhdeen


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[gentoo-user] Odd devfs behavior

2003-11-22 Thread dennis

Every time I boot up I have a directory /dev/dvd and a directory 
/dev/lirc/lirc0 and /dev/lirc/0. These are directories not char devices.

I have to manual rm -rf /dev/dvd for it to create the correct device, I 
also have to rm -rf /dev/lirc, then 

rmmod lirc_i2c, lirc_dev and modprobe them again for it to create the 
correct device. 

If I don't do this, lirc complains it's a directory.

Why is this happening? Why is it creating these as directories and 
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[gentoo-user] strange responses from Gentoo-User

2003-11-22 Thread purslow
[ i got  3  of these strange messages today re items i sent to Gentoo-User.
NB the comment misconfigured sender on the 5th Received line.
it is possible i forgot to suppress my 'Reply-to' header, if that helps.
does anyone have any explanation for this?  'Lincolnbaxter' is unknown to me ]

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I'm afraid I wasn't able to deliver your message to the following addresses.
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031118 mathieu perrenoud wrote:
 All answers about gentoo ;-)
 http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/Peter_and_Barbara_Barham/gentoo.htm
 more pictures:
 http://images.google.com/images?q=gentoo+-linux

great! i sent the URLs to my ornithologist friend (who doesn't know Linux).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Odd devfs behavior

2003-11-22 Thread Brett I. Holcomb
What does /etc/devfsd.conf have in  it for these devices?

On Saturday 22 November 2003 18:43, you wrote:
 Every time I boot up I have a directory /dev/dvd and a directory
 /dev/lirc/lirc0 and /dev/lirc/0. These are directories not char devices.

 I have to manual rm -rf /dev/dvd for it to create the correct device, I
 also have to rm -rf /dev/lirc, then

 rmmod lirc_i2c, lirc_dev and modprobe them again for it to create the
 correct device.

 If I don't do this, lirc complains it's a directory.

 Why is this happening? Why is it creating these as directories and
 preventing the modules attaching as a device?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Announcing project Chinstrap

2003-11-22 Thread Spider
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On Sun, 23 Nov 2003 00:33:01 +0100
Azhdeen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You mean you automated the compiling of the entire tree ?
 just out of curiosity, any info on how long that regression testing
 takes ? 

First build took a few day, and was aborted by several packages which
didn't complete.  I've never considered the whole tree, but started from
the GRP sets and worked from that to things I felt sane and well. Most
of this was requests from a newly converted (from RedHat 9) Gentoo user
and her wishes. I want this . Where is that?  . Is there an
application to do Foo?  , And this turned out to introduce a rather
normal set of dependencies.






 does it still occur ?
It is a manual process as I have to sign and upload things. Most parts
are scripted, and it only requires a few commands, but still has to be
manually overseen as to regards to bugfixing.

Each day the whole system is wiped, and a new buildroot is grabbed from
portage, and then rebuilt. in cases where the old binaries match in
version with the new ones, they are used, in all other cases the
packages are rebuilt.



 
 I hope you don't torture a lonely single CPU on this ;-)
I do.


 I suppose distcc and ccache can be quite important helpers in this
 project,  right ?

Actually ccache isn't that much help, as I don't need to recompile many
packages, however ccache is quite nice, when connectivity works.
Sometimes it is in fact hindering. 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Howto apply patches

2003-11-22 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Mike Williams wrote:
On Saturday 22 November 2003 21:52, Jimmie Houchin wrote:

It is the bk?? patches. Bringing the kernel to the latest development
sources. I saw nothing in the portage tree which had the latest bk
patches applied.


Ahh.
You could attempt to modify the ebuild to patch the source automatically, but 
I'd just do it manually after merging.
Portage does track the kernel source files, but it's not exactly needed.
If I were to do it manually, do I need to unzip the sources to its own 
directory?  /usr/src/my_patched_sources/2.6.0t9bk26?

Thanks for your help.

Jimmie Houchin



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Re: [gentoo-user] strange responses from Gentoo-User

2003-11-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 23 November 2003 08:52, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 [ i got  3  of these strange messages today re items i sent to Gentoo-User.
 NB the comment misconfigured sender on the 5th Received line.
 it is possible i forgot to suppress my 'Reply-to' header, if that helps.
 does anyone have any explanation for this?  'Lincolnbaxter' is unknown to
 me ]

More than likely it is somebody's attempt to use spamassassin. Every so often 
you'll get a few emails like this one - I know I've sent out some! Advice to 
anyone thinking of playing with your mail server from somebody who's already 
made the mistake: Trying new settings? Set your mail server to defer error 
mail!

Jason

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Re: [gentoo-user] strange responses from Gentoo-User

2003-11-22 Thread Yorkshire Dave
On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:52:51 -0500
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 [ i got  3  of these strange messages today re items i sent to
 Gentoo-User. NB the comment misconfigured sender on the 5th
 Received line. it is possible i forgot to suppress my 'Reply-to'
 header, if that helps. does anyone have any explanation for this? 
 'Lincolnbaxter' is unknown to me ]

And again. Same user was bombing posters to the list with CRAP requests
back in mid september. I guess that sending unsolicited email to list
posters once just wasn't enough. Mr Baxter needed a second go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] switching from uw-imap to courier-imap

2003-11-22 Thread Aaron Walker
Keith Dart wrote:
I recently switched to an all-courier MTA/IMAP/maildir system and I
really like it. It comes with a lot of really good tools. And a lot of
man pages to read! I previously had procmail dropping mail to mbox
formatted ~/mail/INBOX for pine. I converted my old mail thusly:
cat mail/INBOX | reformail -f0 -s maildrop

But first, of course, you should have your maildrop configuration all
set up to your liking.
HTH,
Keith
So to do this transition, I need to:

unmerge uw-imap and procmail
emerge courier-imap and maildrop
configure postfix to use maildir format and to use maildrop
configure maildrop
convert current mbox style mail files to maildir format
is there anything i missed?

just want to know ahead of time everything I need to do before I make 
the transition.

Thanks,
Aaron
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Re: [gentoo-user] strange responses from Gentoo-User

2003-11-22 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Sunday 23 November 2003 09:43, Yorkshire Dave wrote:
 On Sat, 22 Nov 2003 18:52:51 -0500

 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  [ i got  3  of these strange messages today re items i sent to
  Gentoo-User. NB the comment misconfigured sender on the 5th
  Received line. it is possible i forgot to suppress my 'Reply-to'
  header, if that helps. does anyone have any explanation for this?
  'Lincolnbaxter' is unknown to me ]

 And again. Same user was bombing posters to the list with CRAP requests
 back in mid september. I guess that sending unsolicited email to list
 posters once just wasn't enough. Mr Baxter needed a second go.

Is that the AWAY guy? Damn!

Jason

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