Re: [gentoo-user] twinview with geforce2 mx 400

2003-12-04 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Chris Bare --
 [ snip ]
 Option ConnectedMonitor crt,crt

I use a CRT and TV out and had luck with this line:

Option ConnectedMonitor   AUTO,AUTO

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Re: [gentoo-user] twinview with geforce2 mx 400

2003-12-04 Thread Øyvind Stegard
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Hi all,
I am trying to get twinview work under linux but I cannot find any tools to do 
it properly (yanc seems not to work though it changes the XF86config file) 
and I can't find any valuable tutorials.
I am about to go crazy about this because it works perfectly under windows. I 
have to get it running under linux since it disgusts me to reboot to windows 
to watch Divx Files with the output redireceted to my TV and then reboot to 
linux again to do all other stuff!
can anyone come up with a solution or provide me with some linux to guides, 
tutorials etc.
I would appreciate it!

thanx in advance, 
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I've had the GF2MX400 on Linux for some time, and I've always used nvtv 
for TVoutput/twinview purposes. It's a bit buggy, but might be useful to 
you. Why nVIDIA hasn't come up with a simple linux command line control 
program for such things yet(bundled with their drivers) is a question I 
keep asking myself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling progress

2003-12-04 Thread Mauro Arnoldi
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 history just ask on the list.

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[gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

2003-12-04 Thread Simon Mushi
Hey people,

I just decided to move from 2.4 to 2.6 - beata tonight and towards the end
of compiling the 2.6.0.test11-r1 kernel the compilation quit with the
following error:
  AR  arch/i386/lib/lib.a
  GEN .version
  CHK include/linux/compile.h
  UPD include/linux/compile.h
  CC  init/version.o
  LD  init/built-in.o
  LD  .tmp_vmlinux1
drivers/built-in.o(.text+0xbeee0): In function `splash_getraw':
: undefined reference to `vesafb_ops'
make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
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Has anyone encountered this? What have I done wrongI had just
previously run make menuconfig...and then make clean bzImage modules
modules_install.

Any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.3

2003-12-04 Thread Tom Eastman
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:25, RoT wrote:
 just do what I did and emerge python 2.3 but keep the 'python' symlink in
 /usr/lib pointing to 2.2. It just means that when you want to invoke 2.3
 you will need to specifically type 'python2.3' but portage and the like
 will still use 2.2.

Sounds like a good plan to me.  :-)

I guess the main worry is that I don't want it to automatically *unmerge* 
python 2.2 and thus break portage.  The two packages are in different SLOTs 
at least, so hopefully that won't happen.

However... any idea what happens to all the third party modules in the 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernels 2.4.20 don't work with reiserfs

2003-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Wes Gray said, 

 No doubt this is only a problem for certain people, but there are
 others.  Maybe things work if you use genkernel.  I did everything
 manually using vanilla-sources.

Did you create an initrd file? Genkernel creates one for 2.4.22 whereas
it didn't for 2.4.20 and this may contain data needed to mount / with
reiserfs. That's certainly how it works in at least one other distro.


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[gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
Hi,

I noticed this about a week ago:

head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
Try `head --help' for more information.

and tail seems to do the same thing...
this is very annoying since it breaks a lot of scripts, including configure 
scripts to build packages...

why is this obsoleted? 

And the most irritating part is that is not phased out, like giving a warning 
and then continue, but it only gives an error and stops.

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[gentoo-user] emerge + wget fails with proxy

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
hi,


when I did a kernel 2.6 installation my wget failed. Think is a bug
because of the IPv6 stuff, so i did USE=-ipv6 emerge wget and worked
wget working. but now even if i set http_proxy wget wont use the proxy
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge rsync ?

2003-12-04 Thread Matthias F. Brandstetter
-- quoting Oliver Lange --
 Seems that emerge misunderstands 'rsync' as 'sync' ??

you can update your portage tree (list of installable packages) with

$ emerge sync

and you can upgrade the program rsync with

$ emerge net-misc/rsync

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge rsync ?

2003-12-04 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 05:57, Oliver Lange wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 How can i upgrade rsync ?
 
 'emerge -up rsync' gave the following error:
 
 emerge: the sync action does not support --pretend.
 
 Seems that emerge misunderstands 'rsync' as 'sync' ??

emerge net-misc/rsync


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge + wget fails with proxy

2003-12-04 Thread Martin Netolicky

hi,
I reported similar problem few days ago, but I didn't upgrade
kernel, just upgrade wget. Next update wasn't succesful because
of wget. Next I try USE=-ipv6 emerge wget as someone helped me
(thanks!), but wget still fails, wrote only

--some time-- http://some.url/some.page
   = index.html
Aborted

Please, help!

Martin
   
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 hi,
 
 
 when I did a kernel 2.6 installation my wget failed.
 Think is a bug
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 When i enter 'emerge -up world', emerge currently
 doesn't show me any update. Fine, but if i enter
 e.g. 'emerge -up epiphany', i get this:
 
 [ebuild U ] net-www/epiphany-1.0.4 [1.0]
 
 So i must assume that 'emerge -u world' would not
 update all and everything (deps).
 
 So how can i emerge updates for everything installed
 on my box ?

emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp

^ Should show all updates that are available for the packages that you
currently have installed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] error updating lcms

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Stear
On Wed 3 December 2003 19:58, Ciortea Cristian wrote:
snip
 
  !!! File is corrupt or incomplete. (Digests do not match)
 
   our recorded digest: 9b90cad3620776e891ef686da0678918
your file's digest: b21a563eeb240e08d3371cb1426b2bc6
 
  !!! File does not exist: /usr/portage/distfiles//lcms-1.11.tar.gz
 
  I have deleted the dist file and downloaded it again but with the same
  error.
snip
 I used ftp://ftp.roedu.net/pub/mirrors/gentoo.org as a mirror
 Your mirror probably has a broken archive. Get the file from this one, it
 should be ok :-)

Thanks that worked
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Python 2.3

2003-12-04 Thread Keith Dart
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 14:25, Tom Eastman wrote:
 On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 17:25, RoT wrote:
  just do what I did and emerge python 2.3 but keep the 'python' symlink in
  /usr/lib pointing to 2.2. It just means that when you want to invoke 2.3
  you will need to specifically type 'python2.3' but portage and the like
  will still use 2.2.
 
 Sounds like a good plan to me.  :-)
 
 I guess the main worry is that I don't want it to automatically *unmerge* 
 python 2.2 and thus break portage.  The two packages are in different SLOTs 
 at least, so hopefully that won't happen.
 
 However... any idea what happens to all the third party modules in the 
 site-packages/ directory?

Each version gets different sets (in /usr/lib/python2.2/ and
/usr/lib/python2.3/ ) You will also have to re-install all third-party
modules. Before you do that, change the python symlink to point to
python2.3, then change it back when you are done. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Patrick Börjesson wrote:
So how can i emerge updates for everything installed
on my box ?
emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp

^ Should show all updates that are available for the packages that you
currently have installed.
*** WARNING ***

Argh... i've accidently used this without the -p option, now my
world file contains all these packages... now i got to sort them
out by hand, piece-by-piece...
any better solutions for automatically updating all packages on my box
without changing my world favorites ???
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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernels 2.4.20 don't work with reiserfs

2003-12-04 Thread Christian Anthon
On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 11:58:51AM -0800, Wes Gray wrote:
 On Wed, Dec 03, 2003 at 02:39:08PM -0500, Mojo B. Nichols wrote:
  I run with / as reiserfs 2.20 no problem.  I think you need to enable
  reiserfs in the kernel, and, I believe it can't be a module either.
 
 The problem is not with 2.4.20. 19 and 20 work fine, 21, 22, and 23 don't.
 
 And yes, I have
 
 CONFIG_REISERFS_FS=y
 
 in my config file.  I used make oldconfig to upgrade.  The error is that
 I get something like failed to mount root partition on bootup.  It
 then mounts readonly OK, but lots of other stuff fails after that.
 No doubt this is only a problem for certain people, but there are
 others.  Maybe things work if you use genkernel.  I did everything
 manually using vanilla-sources.
 

Same problem here. I had to comment out rootfs checking in checkrootfs
during bootup since I had no old kernel to use. The problem probably
lies with reiserfs tool and not the kernel.

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[gentoo-user] emerge rsync ?

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Hi everyone,

How can i upgrade rsync ?

'emerge -up rsync' gave the following error:

emerge: the sync action does not support --pretend.

Seems that emerge misunderstands 'rsync' as 'sync' ??

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Christian Aust
Oliver Lange ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) schrieb am 04.12.2003 12:53
Uhr:

 emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp
 
 *** WARNING ***
 
 Argh... i've accidently used this without the -p option, now my
 world file contains all these packages... now i got to sort them
 out by hand, piece-by-piece...
 
 any better solutions for automatically updating all packages on my box
 without changing my world favorites ???

What's wrong with adding those packages to world? After all, they are
already installed on your system, and if I understand it right, will be
updated next time you issue emerge -u world. Isn't this what you planned
to do by entering emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp in the first place? Best
regards,

-  Christian

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Re: [gentoo-user] 2.6 kernel and sensors

2003-12-04 Thread Peter Ruskin
On Thursday 04 Dec 2003 01:27, Robert Crawford wrote:
 That's the ticket! Getting sensor readouts with 2.6 kernels is so
 much easier than 2.4.xx, that it's not even comparable. Basically,
 just compile i2c stuff as modules (including your hardware's
 modules), and load your specific modules at boot, and Gkrellm2 will
 pick it up. It usually is set correctly with the bios, but it might
 take a bit of adjustment. Just reboot and check the bios, and then
 set Gkrellm (if necessary, to match those readings).


I'm glad you're as happy as I am about this!  One problem I can see, 
however, is that there doesn't seem to be anything like sensors-detect 
that works.  If you know what modules you need you're OK.

One way is to select everything i2c as modules when you build the 
kernel, reboot, load all those modules then remerge gkrellm2 and see 
what it detects.  After that you could rebuild your kernel, removing 
the modules you don't need.

BTW I really do like the Qt xconfig setup with this kernel.

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RE: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread John Ross Hunt
 Hi,

 I noticed this about a week ago:

 head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
 Try `head --help' for more information.

 and tail seems to do the same thing...
 this is very annoying since it breaks a lot of scripts,
 including configure
 scripts to build packages...

 why is this obsoleted?

 And the most irritating part is that is not phased out, like
 giving a warning
 and then continue, but it only gives an error and stops.

   Rudmer

Do an info coreutils and read the section about standards conformance.  In
short, export _POSIX2_VERSION=199209 in your profile will enable
traditional behavior with head, tail  sort.

-jrh

I'll save you a few keystrokes.  Here's the relevant piece:

Standards conformance
=

In a few cases, the GNU utilities' default behavior is incompatible
with the POSIX standard.  To suppress these incompatibilities, define
the `POSIXLY_CORRECT' environment variable.  Unless you are checking
for POSIX conformance, you probably do not need to define
`POSIXLY_CORRECT'.

   Newer versions of POSIX are occasionally incompatible with older
versions.  For example, older versions of POSIX required the command
`sort +1' to sort based on the second and succeeding fields in each
input line, but starting with POSIX 1003.1-2001 the same command is
required to sort the file named `+1', and you must instead use the
command `sort -k 2' to get the field-based sort.

   The GNU utilities normally conform to the version of POSIX that is
standard for your system.  To cause them to conform to a different
version of POSIX, define the `_POSIX2_VERSION' environment variable to
a value of the form MM specifying the year and month the standard
was adopted.  Two values are currently supported for `_POSIX2_VERSION':
`199209' stands for POSIX 1003.2-1992, and `200112' stands for POSIX
1003.1-2001.  For example, if you are running older software that
assumes an older version of POSIX and uses `sort +1', `head -1', or
`tail +1', you can work around the compatibility problems by setting
`_POSIX2_VERSION=199209' in your environment.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

2003-12-04 Thread Jeff Smelser
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On Wednesday 03 December 2003 09:26 pm, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Wed, 3 Dec 2003 20:54:00 -0600 Jeff Smelser [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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  On Wednesday 03 December 2003 07:52 pm, Stroller wrote:
   My problem is that  updatedb is including the all the contents of my
   mail folders, located in ~/.Maildir so that when I run `locate 123`,
   for example looking for the media-sound/mpg123 ebuild, I get very many
   entries like /home/stroller/.Maildir/.Some
   Folder/cur/1233445437574657345476 scrolling right off the screen.
   Clearly this is undesirable, as I am never going to try  locate an
   email by its unique ID, and I have also noticed that the midnight
   updatedb is becoming very slow.
 
  This isn't possible. Slocate has privs in mind when you use locate.

 I'm not quite sure what you mean?  I run updatedb (slocate) as root.  There
 are never any problems with locate from a normal user.

Ok, What he is trying to do, isn't possible. He would have to write some sort 
of script and inject into into prune path of all the maildir's he may have..

The second part is a goof, I thought he wouldn't want other users being able 
to search for his mail. (for ex). But slocate takes privileges into 
account...  My mistake on that.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Thunderbird-cvs problem

2003-12-04 Thread brett holcomb
Kent, do an updatedb then slocate -i thunderbird | more 
and see what you get.  Somewhere in there is the 
Thunderbird executable.  They may not have linked it to 
/bin but it's got to be there somewhere.  If not add to 
the bug report.

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 22:02:47 -0700
 Kent Jantz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Collins Richey wrote:
On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 21:03:14 -0700 Kent Jantz 
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Collins Richey wrote:

On Wed, 03 Dec 2003 19:10:14 -0700 Kent Jantz 
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I just emerged thunderbird-cvs but I am having problems 
figuring out how to start it. 


Back to square 1.  Where did you get a thunderbird-cvs 
ebuild to emerge?. I'm sync'd as of a few minutes ago, 
and I find no such ebuild in portage.

I was going to suggest looking at the ebuild to 
determined where the
executables are built, but I can't even find it.

I found it on the forums:

http://bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=17183action=view



Ok, it's a strange ebuild, but it looks like your 
MozillaThunderbird executable
should be either in /usr/lib/MozillaThunderbird/ or in 
the files directory of
/wherever/you/put/the/ebuild.

Were there any instructions with this ebuild?

None that I saw but I got the ebuild from this posting:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=81429highlight=thunderbird+cvs+ebuild

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Christian Aust wrote:
What's wrong with adding those packages to world? After all, they are
already installed on your system, and if I understand it right, will be
updated next time you issue emerge -u world. Isn't this what you planned
to do by entering emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp in the first place?
Well that's easy: if i unmerge some package that is member of my
'world' list, an additional 'emerge depclean' will remove everything
no longer needed (former dependencies of unmerged world favorites),
but if everything is listed in the world file, nothing will ever be
cleaned up, so i got all these packages installed but never used...
I want absolutely nothing installed which i don't need anyway !!

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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread John Ross Hunt
 Patrick Börjesson wrote:
 So how can i emerge updates for everything installed
 on my box ?
 
  emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp
 
  ^ Should show all updates that are available for the
 packages that you currently have installed.

 *** WARNING ***

 Argh... i've accidently used this without the -p option, now my
 world file contains all these packages... now i got to sort them
 out by hand, piece-by-piece...

 any better solutions for automatically updating all packages on my box
 without changing my world favorites ???

emerge --oneshot
Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world profile for
later updating.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail

2003-12-04 Thread Jeff Smelser
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On Wednesday 03 December 2003 02:12 am, Christian Herzyk wrote:
 With kmail you can either have threading on or threading off. With
  threading on, it goes by the headers _and_ the time of receipt. If you
  delete messages as you read them, it might be easier to not thread the
  messages and sort by subject and then by date. Otherwise, you'll have to
  read the entire thread and then delete - of course, that doesn't help
  when you receive a new message in the thread but the previous messages
  are gone.

  From what I hear this behaviour should be fixed in Kmail from KDE3.2.
 It should then be the way as it is in Mozilla now.

Thank god, a thread delete would do it some good too.. ;)
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Jeff Smelser
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On Thursday 04 December 2003 07:01 am, Oliver Lange wrote:
 That's the missing puzzle piece. If i only used this option... now
 i guess it'll cost me a day of work to fix my world file back to
 normal... i've reduced my world file to about 60 entries that i can
 remember of, now 'emerge depclean' reports about 25 packages to
 be uninstalled. I've used 'emerge depclean' regularly in the past
 and it was always clean as a whistle... however thank you.

Next time, try emerge -Dupvl world.. 
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Spider
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On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 13:18:09 +0100
Oliver Lange [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Christian Aust wrote:
  
  What's wrong with adding those packages to world? After all, they
  are
  already installed on your system, and if I understand it right, will
  be
  updated next time you issue emerge -u world. Isn't this what you
  planned
  to do by entering emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -vp in the first place?
 
 Well that's easy: if i unmerge some package that is member of my
 'world' list, an additional 'emerge depclean' will remove everything
 no longer needed (former dependencies of unmerged world favorites),
 but if everything is listed in the world file, nothing will ever be
 cleaned up, so i got all these packages installed but never used...
 
 I want absolutely nothing installed which i don't need anyway !!
 


perhaps you should've used --deep as an option to emerge, or in the
qpkg magic case, --oneshot ?


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread mathieu perrenoud
Le Jeudi, 4 Décembre 2003 12.53, Oliver Lange a écrit :
 any better solutions for automatically updating all packages on my box
 without changing my world favorites ???

I think you might want to try this:

emerge -Dup world

from man emerge: 

   --deep (-D)
  When  used  in  conjunction with --update, this flag forces
  emerge to consider the entire dependency tree of  packages,
  instead  of checking only the immediate dependencies of the
  packages.  As an example, this catches updates in libraries
  that are not directly listed in the dependencies of a pack-
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Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/modules.autoload.d options?

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Thursday 04 December 2003 13:43, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 Is it possible to define /etc/modules.autoload.d lists for specific
 kernels? I have two different kernels installed: 2.4.20-gaming-r3 and
 2.4.23. The latter has some feature that autoloads its own autodetected
 modules, and causes problems when I try to load them again through
 modules.autoload.d. Is it possible to do something like:

 /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4.20
 /etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4.23

 Thanks in advance.

Already does that.
If you have an /etc/modules.autoload delete it, the init scripts will pick the 
correct kernel-x.x.x for you.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Back OT: Prince of Persia commercial

2003-12-04 Thread Sami Näätanen
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 17:41, Spider wrote:
 begin  quote
 On Tue, 2 Dec 2003 09:19:41 -0600

 Van Eps, Nathan D. (James Tower) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Can anyone mention a clone, or an emulator/VM setup that can play said
  old game?
  ( nope, the ps/2 that I ran it on originally is dead )
 
 
 
  There is a DOS version of Prince of Persia you can download!

 Not that helpful actually, as I'm also asking for the emulator/VM setup
 necessary to make it work. (had you told me that freedos disk under
 xdosemu with theese settings work, I would have been immensly helped,
 but as it is I don't really have the time to mess about with it to
 relive old memories, so I'm afraid I'm not very helped of it.BTW, I
 dont own a machine that runs DOS anymore. : )

You could also download the original Amiga version and play it with UAE.
It has better graphics than the DOS version.
there is a WinUAE config at the same place, which I think can be used with the 
Linux version of the UAE. At least I have used some WinUAE configs with UAE 
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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread David Gethings
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 12:30, Helder Rossa wrote:
 hi,
 
 
 I want to clear all partitions of my HDD and then put the data of the
 partitions that I have now in those new partitions. I'm wondering if it
 is possible.
 
 basically I want to redefine my HDD partitions without re-installing all
 the stuff that I have.
 
 if i do dd if=/dev/hda2 of=hda2.iso and the try to restore that iso in
 one partition it replaces with an exact copy of the original partition.
 Can I do a backup of the data only and not the partition info??
You could use tar. tar up the dir(s) then move the tar file to a
different partition. Resize that partition and then untar the files into
that partition.

There maybe some 'special' things you will need to do if you do this to
/. Try a google for 'restore from tar'.

Hope that helps.

Dg


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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo.org IP address change?

2003-12-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 01:29:08 -0500 Lincoln A. Baxter [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Did this happen?  It seems that the gentoo ezmlm was rejected by
 smtp at comcast.net as in invalid IP address.  Did anyone else get this?
 

No, and as you can see, I'm on comcast as well.

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[gentoo-user] /etc/modules.autoload.d options?

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Is it possible to define /etc/modules.autoload.d lists for specific kernels? I
have two different kernels installed: 2.4.20-gaming-r3 and 2.4.23. The latter
has some feature that autoloads its own autodetected modules, and causes
problems when I try to load them again through modules.autoload.d. Is it
possible to do something like:

/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4.20
/etc/modules.autoload.d/kernel-2.4.23

Thanks in advance.


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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge + wget fails with proxy

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
its a bug. so just use the dnsname and not the ip

http_proxy=http://dnsname:3128 wget ...

working for me

 I reported similar problem few days ago, but I didn't upgrade
 kernel, just upgrade wget. Next update wasn't succesful because
 of wget. Next I try USE=-ipv6 emerge wget as someone helped me
 (thanks!), but wget still fails, wrote only
 
 --some time-- http://some.url/some.page
= index.html
 Aborted
 
 Please, help!
 
 Martin


  
  when I did a kernel 2.6 installation my wget failed.
  Think is a bug
  because of the IPv6 stuff, so i did USE=-ipv6 emerge
  wget and worked
  wget working. but now even if i set http_proxy wget
  wont use the proxy
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Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread Spider
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 11:51:57 +0100
Rudmer van Dijk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi,
 
 I noticed this about a week ago:
 
 head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
 Try `head --help' for more information.
 
 and tail seems to do the same thing...
 this is very annoying since it breaks a lot of scripts, including
 configure scripts to build packages...
 
 why is this obsoleted? 

POSIX compliance. 


 And the most irritating part is that is not phased out, like giving a
 warning  and then continue, but it only gives an error and stops.

it's been a warning about it for some time, in the documentation afair
(deprecated... ).  


if you go completely whacked on it, I'd suggest reinstalling the older
package 's tail/head until you've waited out the rest of the world + pet
+ old projects to fix this.



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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 This does not give the same results as the mentioned 'magic'...
 
 emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -p give me
[snip]

 And emerge -uDp world gives me:
[snip] 

 Surely this is a bug?

Actually, it not... Say you want to try out a package and when
installing it you install a whole bunch of dependencies with it. When
you later uninstall the package that you tried out it won't uninstall
all the dependencies that where drawn in as dependencies, which means
that they're still installed on your system. But since you didn't
explicitly installed them by 'emerge dep1; emerge dep2...' they're not
in the world-file either, and thus 'emerge -Du world' won't update those
packages if they're not depended on by some other package that you've
installed later on...

Patrick Börjesson

P.S.
Btw... Sorry for not mentioning the '--oneshot'-option in my first
reply
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Patrick [ISO-8859-1] Börjesson wrote:
  This does not give the same results as the mentioned 'magic'...
  
  emerge -u `qpkg -nc -I` -p give me
 [snip]
 
  And emerge -uDp world gives me:
 [snip] 
 
  Surely this is a bug?
 
 Actually, it not... Say you want to try out a package and when
 installing it you install a whole bunch of dependencies with it. When
 you later uninstall the package that you tried out it won't uninstall
 all the dependencies that where drawn in as dependencies, which means
 that they're still installed on your system. But since you didn't
 explicitly installed them by 'emerge dep1; emerge dep2...' they're not
 in the world-file either, and thus 'emerge -Du world' won't update those
 packages if they're not depended on by some other package that you've
 installed later on...
 
 Patrick Börjesson
 

Ah yes, I see what you mean.  Theory goes that the differences between the 
two packages should at least resemble to output from emerge depclean I 
guess.  I will check when I get home

Tom

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Sami Näätanen
On Thursday 04 December 2003 05:40, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Frédéric COIFFIER wrote:
  I'm disappointed...

 Oookey... Thank you. Next!!!

 Seriously. Which files? Can you host a few samples so we can help you track
 your problem? I use Ogg to encode my CDs because at half the size of MP3 it
 sounds twice better.

For higher bit rates ogg produces worse quality, but same goes between layer 3 
and layer2 mpegs too.

One thing in ogg that is better than in mpeg is the 'cleanes' of the sound. 
Sandly the sound in it self is not what it should be. Ie the sound doesn't 
represent the sound it should. I have tested these with 'Hells Bells' and 
there really is clear differences although my hearing is not even closely the 
same level as with my wifes. She is classical musician and playes clarinet.

With good encoder the quality difference between mpeg layers started to appear 
somewhere between 256 and 320 kbps in my tests.


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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare question from the forum

2003-12-04 Thread Alexandru GHERMAN
I read about that on the forums. The way you said below solved the problem for 
someone having kernel 2.6.0 but I have 2.4.20.


On Thursday 04 December 2003 15:58, Anders Hasselqvist wrote:
 On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:
  blmartin777 wrote:
 
  I can't even get it to install. It tells me that it was not configured
  right and to run vmware-config.pl, and when I do that it says it build
  everything it needs for the 2.6 kernel. It does that over and over. 
 
 
 
   I got the same symptoms too and I can't get it to work. Can anybody
  please help ?

 I think you have to modify vmware-config.pl a bit.

 Change all occurences of /proc/ksyms to /proc/kallsyms

 It could be that you have to change something more but I don't remember.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread David Gethings
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 14:44, Spider wrote:
 Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). 
OMG! Why have I not heard of this codec before! This is exactly what
I've been looking for!

Thanks Spider! Now I have to re-rip my CD collection. ;)

Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread Neil Bothwick
Peter Eis said, 

 You could use partimage (it's on the gentoo live CD).
 The only problem is, that the target partition size must be at least the 
 same size as the original partition.

If not, you could use resize2fs or resize_reiserfs to shrink the
partition before imaging it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread David Gethings
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 14:59, Helder Rossa wrote:
 hummm... 
 
 just tar / untar the partitions?!!
 
 - boot from a cd;
 - tar the parttions;
 - create / edit parttions;
 - untar the stuff to the partition i want;
 - install bootloader.
 
 think I'm not forgetting nothing.
 
 - and that's it?!!
 
That is certainly the case for non root partitions. I'm not a file
system expert. So there might be some magic you will need to fix
before being able to boot from the resized / partitiom.

Cheers

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Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread Ulrich Plate
Rudmer van Dijk wrote:

 head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
 Try `head --help' for more information.
 
 and tail seems to do the same thing...
 this is very annoying since it breaks a lot of scripts, including
 configure scripts to build packages...

...like the Zetagrid client. Glad someone else finds this worth talking
about, too. I've been shaking my head in disbelief ever since I first
saw the error message.  

 why is this obsoleted? 

Because SCO owns a trademark on `-[0-9]`? Some GNU kid on the block
wants to try making all traces of Unix heritage disappear from Linux?
Sudden attack of braindeadness? Valid question, I'd love to know the
answer.

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare question from the forum (fwd)

2003-12-04 Thread Alexandru GHERMAN
That's it ! It works !
Thanks a lot Elton.

On Thursday 04 December 2003 17:29, Elton Algera wrote:
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 Hi,

 I had the same problem with a 2.4.20 kernel.
 For me the solution was removing the

 /etc/vmware/not_configured

 file.

 The name suggests that this file should be removed after successful
 configuration, but it isn't.

 Removing the file fixed the problem for me...

 On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:
  I read about that on the forums. The way you said below solved the
  problem for someone having kernel 2.6.0 but I have 2.4.20.
 
  On Thursday 04 December 2003 15:58, Anders Hasselqvist wrote:
   On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:
blmartin777 wrote:
   
I can't even get it to install. It tells me that it was not
configured right and to run vmware-config.pl, and when I do that it
says it build everything it needs for the 2.6 kernel. It does that
over and over. 
   
   
   
 I got the same symptoms too and I can't get it to work. Can anybody
please help ?
  
   I think you have to modify vmware-config.pl a bit.
  
   Change all occurences of /proc/ksyms to /proc/kallsyms
  
   It could be that you have to change something more but I don't
   remember.
  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Boot problems - AMD64 install

2003-12-04 Thread Jimmie Houchin
Found my problem.

In my kernel config, either by default or my selection I don't remember, 
in the Kernel Hacking section there was a setting for IOMMU force on... 
 which was selected. I deselect that option for no IOMMU debugging, etc 
and the new kernel boots without problem.

Thanks for all the suggestions.

Jimmie Houchin



Jimmie Houchin wrote:

Hello,

I am installing Gentoo on my AMD64 server.
I compiled the gentoo-dev-sources kernel (2.6.0test9).
On attempting to boot off the hard drive I am getting errors and it is 
locking up.

System:
Arima RioWorks HDAMA motherboard, 2 240 Opterons, Promise FT S150 SATA 
Raid (on board), 4 SATA drives, 4gb ram.

/etc/fstab
#Leaving out all the comments
/dev/sda1  /boot ext2 noauto,noatime 1 1
/dev/sda2  / reiserfs noatime,defaults   0 0
/dev/sda3  /home reiserfs noatime0 0
/dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdromiso9660  noauto,ro  0 0
none   /proc proc defaults   0 0
I have also tried:
proc /procprocdefaults   0 0
on the last line as it is in my desktop fstab.
But no success with it either.
Below is my boot screen.

*Mounting proc at /proc   ...  OK
*Mounting sysfs at /sys   ...
can't create lock file /etc/mtab~83: Read-only file system (use -n flag 
to override)

...and it continues OK until

*Mounting local filesystems ...

  here it locks up.

The first time I tried to boot it off the hard drive it couldn't mount 
sysfs because of no /sys directory. One of the messages in the forum 
said to mkdir /sys. I did that and the error message changed but still 
no successful boot.

I've tried to search the forums and have not found anything to help.

I have other issues I posted to the forum.
But no replies. Is there a better mailing list for specifically Gentoo 
AMD64 problems? I posted this one here because I don't know it is 
specifically AMD64.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Jimmie Houchin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Spider
begin  quote
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 16:19:25 +0100
Redeeman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 15:44, Spider wrote:
  begin  quote
  On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:49 +0200
  Sami Näätanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
  
   Sandly the sound in it self is not what it should be. Ie the sound
   doesn't  represent the sound it should. I have tested these with
   'Hells Bells' and there really is clear differences although my
   hearing is not even closely thesame level as with my wifes.
   She is
   classical musician and playes clarinet.
   
  
  Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). 
  
 loose less audio compression is interresting, but how much does a
 average track take? it must take much more than a vorbis or mp3
 encoded file


Here's a test / sample :

flac --best 
oggenc -q 8
lame -q0 --preset extreme


Flac stats :
Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.wav: wrote 39895533 bytes, ratio=0.620


Ogg stats :
Done encoding file Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.ogg
Rate: 11.8746
Average bitrate: 251.2 kb/s
Nominal bitrate: 256.006000 kb/s



MP3 stats :
Encoding as 44.1 kHz VBR(q=2) j-stereo MPEG-1 Layer III (ca. 7.3x)
qval=0

average: 226.4 kbps   LR: 7757 (55.58%)   MS: 6200 (44.42%)


62M Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.wav
39M Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.flac
11M Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.ogg 
9.9M Depeche Mode - Sister of Night.mp3



Okay, this isn't even a fair comparsion as I don't use the same bitrates
between the different settings, but just approximate what I figure would
be ok.



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Re: [gentoo-user] Low memory build (fwd)

2003-12-04 Thread Elton Algera

Hi,

I just finished configuring my old laptop (P1/166 with 54M memory). I 
built the entire filesystem on my new Athlon 3000+, which is a bit faster.
If you have a fast machine with some spare diskspace, you can untar a 
stage3 for pentium1 in it, and then build all the stuff you need.

mkdir /oldcomputer-chroot
cd /oldcomputer-chroot
tar -xjf stage3-pent-1.tbz2
chroot /oldcomputer

If you use a stage3 then you won't get into trouble compiling by compiling 
for the wrong arch.
Watch the CHOST setting in make.conf, should be i586, otherwise the 
machine will not boot.
Set the BUILDPKG feature enabled.


If you're finished, boot up the old machine with a live cd.
Start NFS on both machines (/etc/init.d/nfs and nfsmount)
On the fast machine add

/oldcomputer 192.168.0.0/255.255.255.0(rw,no_root_squash)

to /etc/exports, before you start NFS. (If your subnet is 192.168.0.0)

mount it with:

mount -t nfs SERVERIP:/oldcomputer /mnt/built (on the old computer)

then copy /mnt/built to /mnt/gentoo

and off you go.

If you keep the chroot on the new machine, you can use it to build new 
packages in the future for the old machine, so that you can emerge -K ...

Hope this helps...

Elton 





On Wed, 3 Dec 2003, MARTINSON, GREGORY wrote:

 
 
 -=-=-=-=-=
 Why am I in a handbasket and where am I headed?
 Gregg Martinson, RAHS Media
 
 I am going to be bullheaded and take an old machine Pentium 166 with 48
 Megs of memory and make it work as a home server (samba, cups and ftp as
 well as maybe a music player).  I won't be installing tons of software
 on it, but I do want to eek our every last ounce of performance from an
 old beast.  
Do any of you have general tips, hints or things to avoid in
 developing such a system?  For example, if I want every last ounce of
 performance should I start with bootstrapping or is that not necessary?
 Anyone know of a simple low-resource window manager?  What media players
 work well with low resources? What compilation make.conf settings should
 I try? 
 Thanks to any and all responses! 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare question from the forum (fwd)

2003-12-04 Thread Elton Algera


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Date: Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:08:20 +0100 (CET)
From: Elton Algera [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare question from the forum


Hi,

I had the same problem with a 2.4.20 kernel.
For me the solution was removing the 

/etc/vmware/not_configured

file.

The name suggests that this file should be removed after successful 
configuration, but it isn't.

Removing the file fixed the problem for me...





On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:

 I read about that on the forums. The way you said below solved the problem for 
 someone having kernel 2.6.0 but I have 2.4.20.
 
 
 On Thursday 04 December 2003 15:58, Anders Hasselqvist wrote:
  On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:
   blmartin777 wrote:
  
   I can't even get it to install. It tells me that it was not configured
   right and to run vmware-config.pl, and when I do that it says it build
   everything it needs for the 2.6 kernel. It does that over and over. 
  
  
  
I got the same symptoms too and I can't get it to work. Can anybody
   please help ?
 
  I think you have to modify vmware-config.pl a bit.
 
  Change all occurences of /proc/ksyms to /proc/kallsyms
 
  It could be that you have to change something more but I don't remember.
 
  Regards,
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Back OT: Prince of Persia commercial

2003-12-04 Thread brett holcomb
What's UAE?

Thanks.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 16:00:42 +0200
 Sami Näätanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tuesday 02 December 2003 17:41, Spider wrote:
begin  quote
You could also download the original Amiga version and 
play it with UAE.
It has better graphics than the DOS version.
there is a WinUAE config at the same place, which I think 
can be used with the 
Linux version of the UAE. At least I have used some 
WinUAE configs with UAE 
in Linux.

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[gentoo-user] mingetty on CD isn't mingetty in ebuild

2003-12-04 Thread William (Andy) Smith
I'm not sure where to look this one up, or if anyone's bothered to mention 
it. The mingetty that is made with the ebuild is only one shot. After you 
logout, it won't let you log back in. I've had to download the mingetty 
source and the autologin behaves the same as the one on the CD, but then 
I've just trashed the usefulness of 'emerge mingetty'. Could someone 
please direct me to any Gentoo notes on why the CD's mingetty  emerge 
mingetty?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail

2003-12-04 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Thursday 04 December 2003 22:25, Christian Herzyk wrote:
 Jeff Smelser wrote:
  On Wednesday 03 December 2003 02:12 am, Christian Herzyk wrote:
  With kmail you can either have threading on or threading off. With
  threading on, it goes by the headers _and_ the time of receipt. If you
  delete messages as you read them, it might be easier to not thread the
  messages and sort by subject and then by date. Otherwise, you'll have to
  read the entire thread and then delete - of course, that doesn't help
  when you receive a new message in the thread but the previous messages
  are gone.
 
  From what I hear this behaviour should be fixed in Kmail from KDE3.2.
  It should then be the way as it is in Mozilla now.
 
 
  Thank god, a thread delete would do it some good too.. ;)

 If I find the time I will check it out tonight when I am home and give a
 report tomorrow.

Apologies for the late reply. I am running kde3.2 at and have not noticed any 
difference but I have not checked. I'll check and let you know the 
difference. Again apologies if there is any spelling mistakes but I am a bit 
drunk...

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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
i think you don't need to do nothing special cause i remember i used dd
do bak the partition, mounted the image and just copied the data to a
clean partition. I'm not sure but the root (/) partition or another is
just the same... on NOT! :-)

I will test it in another PC... not the same hardware but if it boots
I'm in the right way.


  just tar / untar the partitions?!!
  
  - boot from a cd;
  - tar the parttions;
  - create / edit parttions;
  - untar the stuff to the partition i want;
  - install bootloader.
  
  think I'm not forgetting nothing.
  
  - and that's it?!!
  
 That is certainly the case for non root partitions. I'm not a file
 system expert. So there might be some magic you will need to fix
 before being able to boot from the resized / partitiom.



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[gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
hi,


my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger than the console
size it wraps the text to the same line that i was witting on :-S .


ex:

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but it has to be:

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

2003-12-04 Thread Octavio Ruiz (Ta^3)
Simon Mushi, who happens to be smarter than you, thinks:
 Hey people,
 I just decided to move from 2.4 to 2.6 - beata tonight and towards the end
 of compiling the 2.6.0.test11-r1 kernel the compilation quit with the
 following error:
   LD  .tmp_vmlinux1
 drivers/built-in.o(.text+0xbeee0): In function `splash_getraw':
 : undefined reference to `vesafb_ops'
 make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux #
 Has anyone encountered this? What have I done wrongI had just
 previously run make menuconfig...and then make clean bzImage modules
 modules_install.
 Any ideas?

Yep, you need to add:

Device Drivers  ---
Graphics support  ---
[*]   VESA VGA graphics support

or remove:

Device Drivers  ---
Graphics support  ---
Bootsplash configuration  ---
[ ] Bootup splash screen

Why? 

undefined reference to `vesafb_ops'/In function `splash_getraw':

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Re[2]: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Robert Cernansky
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:49 +0200 Sami Näätanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

SN For higher bit rates ogg produces worse quality, but same goes between

Worse than what? Worse than ogg on lower bitrates or worse than mp3 on same
bitrate?

Robert.


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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 15:43:29 + Helder Rossa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i think you don't need to do nothing special cause i remember i used dd
 do bak the partition, mounted the image and just copied the data to a
 clean partition. I'm not sure but the root (/) partition or another is
 just the same... on NOT! :-)
 
 I will test it in another PC... not the same hardware but if it boots
 I'm in the right way.
 
 
   just tar / untar the partitions?!!
   
   - boot from a cd;
   - tar the parttions;
   - create / edit parttions;
   - untar the stuff to the partition i want;
   - install bootloader.
   
   think I'm not forgetting nothing.
   
   - and that's it?!!
   
  That is certainly the case for non root partitions. I'm not a file
  system expert. So there might be some magic you will need to fix
  before being able to boot from the resized / partitiom.
 

The only thing magic about root partitions is /etc/fstab.  If you restore the
image to a different hddn location, you must edit the /etc/fstab to specify
the new location of the / partition.  And, of course, you must update lilo/grub
to insure that the new partition is bootable.

HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] kernel compile error (2.6.0-test11-r1)

2003-12-04 Thread Collins Richey
On Thu, 04 Dec 2003 03:12:37 + (DST) Simon Mushi [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:

 Hey people,
 
 I just decided to move from 2.4 to 2.6 - beata tonight and towards the end
 of compiling the 2.6.0.test11-r1 kernel the compilation quit with the
 following error:
   AR  arch/i386/lib/lib.a
   GEN .version
   CHK include/linux/compile.h
   UPD include/linux/compile.h
   CC  init/version.o
   LD  init/built-in.o
   LD  .tmp_vmlinux1
 drivers/built-in.o(.text+0xbeee0): In function `splash_getraw':
 : undefined reference to `vesafb_ops'
 make: *** [.tmp_vmlinux1] Error 1
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] linux #
 
 
 Has anyone encountered this? What have I done wrongI had just
 previously run make menuconfig...and then make clean bzImage modules
 modules_install.
 

Can't tell your for sure - I haven't tried test11.  I'm still on test8.

Only a guess: I never use make ... clean ... on 2.6, just make bzImage modules
modules_install.

You could try:

1. copy your .config somewhere else
2. make mrproper
3. copy back your .config
4. make bzImage modules modules_install

If that doesn't do it, then there is a kernel bug, and you should pursue this
with kernel.org.

Another question: do you have some unusual choices in the kernel config that
most people (like me) never use?  Try cutting back on the options selected to
see if the problem disappears.  One possibility with the indicated errors
(undefined reference to `vesafb_ops') would be framebuffer support.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Rex Young
 
   Sandly the sound in it self is not what it should be. Ie the sound
   doesn't  represent the sound it should. I have tested these with
   'Hells Bells' and there really is clear differences although my
   hearing is not even closely thesame level as with my 
 wifes. She is
   classical musician and playes clarinet.
   
  
  Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). 
  
 loose less audio compression is interresting, but how much does a
 average track take? it must take much more than a vorbis or 
 mp3 encoded
 file

http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html.  This is a comparison
of various lossless codecs, but does give some idea of the rate
of compression.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail

2003-12-04 Thread Mike Williams
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On Thursday 04 December 2003 12:27, Jeff Smelser wrote:
 On Wednesday 03 December 2003 02:12 am, Christian Herzyk wrote:
  With kmail you can either have threading on or threading off. With
   threading on, it goes by the headers _and_ the time of receipt. If you
   delete messages as you read them, it might be easier to not thread the
   messages and sort by subject and then by date. Otherwise, you'll have
   to read the entire thread and then delete - of course, that doesn't
   help when you receive a new message in the thread but the previous
   messages are gone.
 
   From what I hear this behaviour should be fixed in Kmail from KDE3.2.
  It should then be the way as it is in Mozilla now.

 Thank god, a thread delete would do it some good too.. ;)

Welcome to KMail 1.5.93


KMail is the email client for the K Desktop Environment. It is designed to be 
fully compatible with Internet mailing standards including MIME, SMTP, POP3 
and IMAP.

KMail has many powerful features which are described in the documentation
The KMail homepage offers information about new versions of KMail

Important changes (compared to KMail 1.5):

Operations on the parent of a closed thread are now performed on all messages 
of that thread. That means it is now possible for example to delete a whole 
thread or subthread by closing it and deleting the parent.

Some of the new features in this release of KMail include (compared to KMail 
1.5, which is part of KDE 3.1):

KMail can now be embedded in the Kontact container application.
Search Folders (a.k.a Virtual Folders)
As-you-type spell checking is supported.
Panel applet showing unread message totals.
Per folder duplicate mail removal
Drag and drop support of messages onto the composer
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Numerous search dialog improvements
SMTP pipelining (faster mail submission).
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IMAP attachments are loaded on demand.
KMail can check your accounts for new mail on startup.
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[gentoo-user] genkernel and bootsplash

2003-12-04 Thread Chris Bare
I've spent an hour reading forum stuff about bootsplash, but I don't see any
answers to the issue of using genkernel and bootsplash together.
The problem is that they both create their own initrd file, and I don't know
how to combine them. Does anyone have bootsplash working with a genkernel
system? How do you combine the initrd files? 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Redeeman
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 04:40, Norberto Bensa wrote:
 Frédéric COIFFIER wrote:
  I'm disappointed...
 
 Oookey... Thank you. Next!!!
 
 Seriously. Which files? Can you host a few samples so we can help you track 
 your problem? I use Ogg to encode my CDs because at half the size of MP3 it 
 sounds twice better.
i dont believe half size, basically what the 2 formats is, its just
cutting stuff off that human ear cant sense, ogg should be almost the
same disk size for the same sound, but it is diffrent how vorbis
algorithm compresses the sound than the mp3 format.
 
 Regards,
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[gentoo-user] glftpd 1.32 and baselayout 1.8.6.12-r2

2003-12-04 Thread Gentoo LB

Hello ..

Anyone successful at all getting glftpd to run zipscripts under the gentoo
environment?

Is there still a need for hacking xinetd?

If anyone does have this working, please post your scripts or email them to
me ..

I only ask this because I still can not get my glftpd to function using
zipscripts ..

Yes I am aware of the bug posted on the bugs site, but none of this helps ..
the forums are also of no help..

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Re: [gentoo-user] Back OT: Prince of Persia commercial

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
brett holcomb wrote:
What's UAE?

An Amiga emulator. The Amiga version of Prince Of Persia
came with better graphics than the DOS version.
I can remember playing POP on one of my Amigas.. :)

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Patrick Börjesson
 my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger than the
 console size it wraps the text to the same line that i was witting on
 :-S .
 
 
 ex:
 
 xx/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx [wrap]
 
 
 but it has to be:
 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx [wrap]
 xx/

Try out Z-Shell (zsh) instead of Bourne Again Shell (bash). I too was
annoyed as hell by the way bash handled terminal-width, especially when
one changed the size of the terminal. I started using zsh a couple of
months ago and never looked back.
Don't know if it's possible to configure bash so that it breaks lines
correctly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Spider
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On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 15:56:49 +0200
Sami Näätanen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Sandly the sound in it self is not what it should be. Ie the sound
 doesn't  represent the sound it should. I have tested these with
 'Hells Bells' and there really is clear differences although my
 hearing is not even closely thesame level as with my wifes. She is
 classical musician and playes clarinet.
 

Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). 

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[gentoo-user] Portage Cleanup

2003-12-04 Thread Al Smith
I was wondering is there a way to cleanup portage cleanly that won't screw
with any thing? Such as remove the source for products installed and such?
And if this is done will portage still keep track of what's been installed?

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
John Ross Hunt wrote:
any better solutions for automatically updating all packages on my box
without changing my world favorites ???
emerge --oneshot
Emerge as normal, but do not add the packages to the world profile for
later updating.
That's the missing puzzle piece. If i only used this option... now
i guess it'll cost me a day of work to fix my world file back to
normal... i've reduced my world file to about 60 entries that i can
remember of, now 'emerge depclean' reports about 25 packages to
be uninstalled. I've used 'emerge depclean' regularly in the past
and it was always clean as a whistle... however thank you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
hummm... 

just tar / untar the partitions?!!

- boot from a cd;
- tar the parttions;
- create / edit parttions;
- untar the stuff to the partition i want;
- install bootloader.

think I'm not forgetting nothing.

- and that's it?!!




  I want to clear all partitions of my HDD and then put the data of the
  partitions that I have now in those new partitions. I'm wondering if it
  is possible.
  
  basically I want to redefine my HDD partitions without re-installing all
  the stuff that I have.
  
  if i do dd if=/dev/hda2 of=hda2.iso and the try to restore that iso in
  one partition it replaces with an exact copy of the original partition.
  Can I do a backup of the data only and not the partition info??
 You could use tar. tar up the dir(s) then move the tar file to a
 different partition. Resize that partition and then untar the files into
 that partition.
 
 There maybe some 'special' things you will need to do if you do this to
 /. Try a google for 'restore from tar'.
 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Cleanup

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Al Smith wrote:
I was wondering is there a way to cleanup portage cleanly that won't screw
with any thing? Such as remove the source for products installed and such?
And if this is done will portage still keep track of what's been installed?
The sources are only installed temporary until a package has been
successfully compiled.
For cleaning package tarballs from packages that are no longer
installed, there's a python script out there which is named
distclean.py (version 0.1), i actually don't remember where
i took it from.
To cleanup a gentoo box from packages which are no longer needed
because no other package depends on it anymore, the command
'emerge depclean' can be used.
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Re: [gentoo-user] VMWare question from the forum

2003-12-04 Thread Anders Hasselqvist
On Thu, 4 Dec 2003, Alexandru GHERMAN wrote:

 blmartin777 wrote:

 I can't even get it to install. It tells me that it was not configured right
 and to run vmware-config.pl, and when I do that it says it build everything
 it needs for the 2.6 kernel. It does that over and over. 



  I got the same symptoms too and I can't get it to work. Can anybody please
 help ?


I think you have to modify vmware-config.pl a bit.

Change all occurences of /proc/ksyms to /proc/kallsyms

It could be that you have to change something more but I don't remember.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Help with install

2003-12-04 Thread Nicolas Nilles
whitch kernel you use?? if you use 2.4.?? you should get sound suport loded
as module, and re emerge alsa-driver, then do a /etc/init.d/alsa restart,
I have the same sound card and work great for me , each time that i compile
kernel, i will have to re emerge alsa, (in kernels 2.4.??)

cheers
Nicolas

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After running Caldera linux (happily) for several years, I tried to update
the
kernel of my system.  Really bad plan.

I now have gentoo running on an athlon XP system.  I can get into the X
system
and most things appear to be running.  I need help with a few things;

How do I get sound?  I have a SB Live! 5.1 and have alsa loaded.  I tried
loading emu10k1 but get an error (unresolved external) [If I could find more
detail I would report it.]

How do I get the system to come up in the graphical login?  I have Gnome
working but I would like to get kde up instead.  Can I select that from a
graphical login prompt?

How do I get drivers for the cups printing system?  I have a tektronix 740L
color laser printer and none of the drivers packaged with cups give me
color.
  (The HP postscript driver works with the printer in BW only.)

I am sure this is just the beginning of a wonderful learning experience.  I
am
now learning just how much my kids would like to use the system so any help
would be gratefully received.

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[gentoo-user] redifining harddrive partitions and restore linux

2003-12-04 Thread Helder Rossa
hi,


I want to clear all partitions of my HDD and then put the data of the
partitions that I have now in those new partitions. I'm wondering if it
is possible.

basically I want to redefine my HDD partitions without re-installing all
the stuff that I have.

if i do dd if=/dev/hda2 of=hda2.iso and the try to restore that iso in
one partition it replaces with an exact copy of the original partition.
Can I do a backup of the data only and not the partition info??





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Re: [gentoo-user] Kernels 2.4.20 don't work with reiserfs

2003-12-04 Thread Wes Gray
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 12:29:21PM +0100, Christian Anthon wrote:
 
 Same problem here. I had to comment out rootfs checking in checkrootfs
 during bootup since I had no old kernel to use. The problem probably
 lies with reiserfs tool and not the kernel.

My problem does occur in /etc/init.d/checkroot, but the checking
of the filesystem goes fine, it's the remounting that fails.  The
output looks like this:

  * Checking root file system
  Reiserfs super block in block 16 on 0x304 of format 3.6 with standard journal
  Blocks (total/free) 15526822/2297961 by 4096 bytes
  Files system is cleanly unmounted
  Filesystem seems mounted read-only. Skipping journal replay
  Checking internal tree..finished  [ok]
  * Remounting root files system read/write...
  * Root filesystem could not be mounted read/write:(   [!!]

The code which does this in /etc/init.d/checkroot comes right after the
check:

# Should we mount root rw ?
if mount -vf -o remount / 2 /dev/null | \
awk '{ if ($6 ~ /rw/) exit 0; else exit 1; }'
then
ebegin Remounting root filesystem read/write
mount / -n -o remount,rw /dev/null
if [ $? -ne 0 ]
then
eend 2 Root filesystem could not be mounted read/write:(
/sbin/sulogin ${CONSOLE}
else
eend 0
fi
fi

So that mount / command is failing.  Maybe I will learn more by removing
the /dev/null from the end of the mount command.  

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread brett holcomb
Under bash my terminal wraps to the next line if I type a 
long line.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:18:53 +0100
 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger 
than the
console size it wraps the text to the same line that i 
was witting on
:-S .

ex:

xx/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx 
[wrap]

but it has to be:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx 
[wrap]
xx/
Try out Z-Shell (zsh) instead of Bourne Again Shell 
(bash). I too was
annoyed as hell by the way bash handled terminal-width, 
especially when
one changed the size of the terminal. I started using zsh 
a couple of
months ago and never looked back.
Don't know if it's possible to configure bash so that it 
breaks lines
correctly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread brett holcomb
Under bash my terminal wraps to the next line if I type a 
long line.

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 17:18:53 +0100
 Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger 
than the
console size it wraps the text to the same line that i 
was witting on
:-S .

ex:

xx/[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx 
[wrap]

but it has to be:

[EMAIL PROTECTED]: dir$ cd xxx 
[wrap]
xx/
Try out Z-Shell (zsh) instead of Bourne Again Shell 
(bash). I too was
annoyed as hell by the way bash handled terminal-width, 
especially when
one changed the size of the terminal. I started using zsh 
a couple of
months ago and never looked back.
Don't know if it's possible to configure bash so that it 
breaks lines
correctly.

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread derek holzer
Tips for configuring bash [including text wrap]:

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/

best,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Compiling progress

2003-12-04 Thread Tom Wesley
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 07:21, Mauro Arnoldi wrote:
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 On Wednesday 03 December 2003 21:59, brett holcomb wrote:
  Not with a tool that I know of.  Until you get some
  history just ask on the list.
 

OK, forums are back up, try this link:

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=42346highlight=emerge+progress

It doesn't give an estimated time, but does have a progress bar, so
could be useful.

Note: Read the thread, there were problems with it and some emerges last
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge -up world

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Hi everyone,

I'm just posting this for the case that anybody wants
to know about how to update a gentoo box. I created a
script because i usually don't like to type all the
stuff by hand everytime.
Please correct me if my comments are wrong..

Here we go:

#!/bin/bash

# the following line is only needed if you're running
# distcc. It guarantees that make will spawn the correct
# number of jobs. It is not enough to follow the gentoo-distcc
# manual, because /etc/make.conf is not used by make itself,
# as the filename might suggest. Several packages are building 
# executing sub-makefiles which are not launched by emerge itself,
# so /etc/make.conf won't be used with every package, and as a
# result, distcc won't always work without the following line.
#
alias make=make -j5
# the following line is optional and just calls the
# distcc monitor for gnome:
DISTCC_DIR=/var/tmp/portage/.distcc distccmon-gnome 
# now for the update command. Please note the uppercase -U
# command, which is required instead of -u for the case that
# some of the installed packages have been emerged with the
# ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=~x86 setting, which i sometimes use to
# get a newer version than the one that is marked as stable,
# which is sometimes very old. I guess that many gentoo users
# make use of the ~x86 keyword here and there.
# However, using -u (lowercase) instead would accidently
# downgrade all these packages.
# The caveeat is that some of the newer packages that have
# been marked as unstable again (after being marked as stable)
# won't be downgraded to the latest 'stable' version.
#
# Never ever forget the --oneshot option, or you can forget
# the depclean feature of emerge. The --oneshot option makes
# sure that nothing will be added to your 'world' favorites
# file. This is important because the following emerge command
# will *explicitly* emerge all currently installed packages.
#
# The $* parameter just enables the opportunity to pass further
# options to the script itself, like -p (pretend), so you
# can also use the script for upgrade checking without
# installing anything.
#
emerge --oneshot -U `qpkg -nc -I` -v $*
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Re: [gentoo-user] Portage Cleanup

2003-12-04 Thread Oliver Lange
Al Smith wrote:
Currently I have 588mg in /usr/portage  can this area be cleaned up without
damaging anything?
I guess that most of these 588 megs are located in /usr/portage/distfiles,
which is the directory where all downloaded source tarballs are stored.
If you don't need them anymore, it is safe to delete the tarballs;
emerge will automatically download them again if required.
Personally, i prefer to keep the source tarballs because i've got
enough free space on my hd.
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Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread Rudmer van Dijk
On Thursday 04 December 2003 14:20, Spider wrote:
  head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
  Try `head --help' for more information.
 
  why is this obsoleted?

 POSIX compliance.


ok, acceptable

  And the most irritating part is that is not phased out, like giving a
  warning  and then continue, but it only gives an error and stops.

 it's been a warning about it for some time, in the documentation afair
 (deprecated... ).

nice, and who reads the documentation for such common utils?? i did when i 
started using them but not anymore...

 if you go completely whacked on it, I'd suggest reinstalling the older
 package 's tail/head until you've waited out the rest of the world + pet
 + old projects to fix this.

nah, we should learn to live with this. better start now


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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Helder Rossa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger than the
 console
 size it wraps the text to the same line that i was witting on :-S .

Yeah, mine does that too! It's a real pain...


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Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

2003-12-04 Thread Stroller
On Dec 4, 2003, at 2:11 am, Collins Richey wrote:

On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:52:42 + Stroller 
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wrote:
It is conceivable, however, that I might have several users on the
system, each of whom has a large Maildir who yet may desire to be able
to locate other files in /home. PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp
/home/*/.Maildir does not work, nor does PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp
/.Maildir.
Can anyone possibly suggest to me how I can exclude from the slocate
database users' Maildirs, but NOT their other /home files..?
I would think add one statement for each user.  
/home/user1/.maildir

Personally, I just execute 'updatedb -e dir1,dir2,dir3

where dir1, etc. is the fully qualified path for a directory I want to 
exclude.
Whilst this is practical on my current system, it wouldn't be should I 
expand to 50... 500... 5000 users. So I guess that in that case I'd 
have to write a script to read usernames from /etc/passwd  enter 
/home/$USERNAME/.Maildir into PRUNPATHS, which is rather a chore. Any 
other suggestions much appreciated.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

2003-12-04 Thread Stroller
On Dec 4, 2003, at 2:54 am, Jeff Smelser wrote:

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On Wednesday 03 December 2003 07:52 pm, Stroller wrote:
My problem is that  updatedb is including the all the contents of my
mail folders, located in ~/.Maildir so that when I run `locate 123`,
for example looking for the media-sound/mpg123 ebuild, I get very many
entries like /home/stroller/.Maildir/.Some
Folder/cur/1233445437574657345476 scrolling right off the screen.
Clearly this is undesirable
This isn't possible. Slocate has privs in mind when you use locate.
Do you think you could possibly clarify, please..? Why do privileges 
prevent wildcarding of pruned directories..? Since slocate presently 
reads  stores the full path of each file, what's to prevent it from 
discarding files that match /path/to/*/.Maildir/*..?

Thanks for any enlightenment,

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Helder Rossa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Tips for configuring bash [including text wrap]:
  
  http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-tip-prompt/
 
 I copied the env var PS1 of another Linux that works and still not
 working :-S

You're using gnome-terminal? Me too, and I have the same problem. Maybe
gnome-terminal's to blame.


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RE: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

2003-12-04 Thread Jeffrey Smelser
 On Dec 4, 2003, at 2:11 am, Collins Richey wrote:
 
  On Thu, 4 Dec 2003 01:52:42 + Stroller 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
 
  It is conceivable, however, that I might have several users on the
  system, each of whom has a large Maildir who yet may 
 desire to be able
  to locate other files in /home. PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp
  /home/*/.Maildir does not work, nor does PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp
  /.Maildir.
 
  Can anyone possibly suggest to me how I can exclude from 
 the slocate
  database users' Maildirs, but NOT their other /home files..?
 
  I would think add one statement for each user.  
  /home/user1/.maildir
 
  Personally, I just execute 'updatedb -e dir1,dir2,dir3
 
  where dir1, etc. is the fully qualified path for a 
 directory I want to 
  exclude.
 
 Whilst this is practical on my current system, it wouldn't be 
 should I 
 expand to 50... 500... 5000 users. So I guess that in that case I'd 
 have to write a script to read usernames from /etc/passwd  enter 
 /home/$USERNAME/.Maildir into PRUNPATHS, which is rather a 
 chore. Any 
 other suggestions much appreciated.

Changing the code?? Seriously...

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[gentoo-user] Wake on lan (Again...)

2003-12-04 Thread Elton Algera

Hi everyone,

I posted a message some months ago about a problem with wake on lan, but 
noone knew the solution back then. So here's another shot.

I have a asus a7n8x motherboard, with integrated ethernet (nvidia 
chipset...).

For Wake on Lan to work, it is required that the network interface is in 
the proper power condition before the computer is turned off.

I use the pci-config tool from scyld.com. This takes care of the right 
powercondition.

Ok, here follow some diagnostics:

* If the computer shuts down from windows, Wake on Lan works :-|
* If the computer is shut down from Linux with the following commands:

pci-config -#12 -S (for bringing the card in sleep condition)
sleep 10
/sbin/halt -dfi

the machine shuts down and powers up properly with WOL. Now this is not 
desirable, because halt -dfi shuts down the machine immediately, without 
killing jobs, or umounting disks :-(

* The goal is obviously to run pci-config just before /sbin/shutdown calls 
halt. (Is done in the shutdown scripts /etc/init.d/halt.sh and 
/etc/init.d/shutdown.sh)

If I put the above commands in /etc/init.d/shutdown.sh, the machine shuts 
down but won't wake up again.


So, why is this sequence of commands working from the prompt (runlevel 3), 
but not from the shutdown scripts???

Has anyone any clue?

Thanks,

Elton








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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Alan
On Thu, Dec 04, 2003 at 11:45:50AM -0600, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 Quoting David Gethings [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
  On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 14:44, Spider wrote:
   Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). 
  OMG! Why have I not heard of this codec before! This is exactly what
  I've been looking for!
  
  Thanks Spider! Now I have to re-rip my CD collection. ;)
 
 In case you're wondering, you have to specify the --ogg option to make it
 completely Ogg-compatible. Here's my flac line:
 
 $ flac -V --ogg -8 -o something.flac something.wav
 
 -V verifies the conversion
 -8 gives maximum (lossless) compression
 -o names the output file

When you say ogg-compatible do you mean that it'll be identified as an
ogg file by anything that plays ogg (the docs and FAQ aren't completely
clear on this). IE: I can have completely lossless compression and have
it appear to be an ogg file?  Or am I missing something

 Also, the Rio Karma
 http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=220cat=53
 has FLAC and Ogg Vorbis support.

I saw this recently and have been lusting after it since then :)  I just
wish they were actually in the stores around me, as for something like
this I really want to hold it in my hand and know that it *feels* right
before I drop big $$ on it.  Either that or the Cali[1] (for going to the
gym).  It doesn't have ogg or the huge hd, but is expandable up to 768mb
and has an fm tuner, is solid state (not as many worries about dropping
it) and is tiny.

[1] http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Rio.asp?model=214cat=54

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[gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config

2003-12-04 Thread Jonathan Stickel
I've setup a firewall with Guarddog, which I use because it is 
relatively simple but seems to be comprehensive.  However, it does not 
have rsync in its protocol list.  I've tried to make a user-defined 
protocol for port 873 (which is the rsync port I believe), but it 
doesn't seem to work.  I cannot use rsync unless I temporarily 
deactivate the firewall.  As you know, allowing rsync is necessary to do 
an 'emerge sync'!

I'm wondering if anyone else uses Guarddog and has come up with a 
solution.  If not, I will entertain simple iptable snippets that I can 
manually enter into the Guarddog generated /etc/rc.firewall.

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Wake on lan (Again...)

2003-12-04 Thread Redeeman
sorry this is not an answer, but.
wake on lan, is that so i can start the computer from the lan? it would
be cool

On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 19:08, Elton Algera wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I posted a message some months ago about a problem with wake on lan, but 
 noone knew the solution back then. So here's another shot.
 
 I have a asus a7n8x motherboard, with integrated ethernet (nvidia 
 chipset...).
 
 For Wake on Lan to work, it is required that the network interface is in 
 the proper power condition before the computer is turned off.
 
 I use the pci-config tool from scyld.com. This takes care of the right 
 powercondition.
 
 Ok, here follow some diagnostics:
 
 * If the computer shuts down from windows, Wake on Lan works :-|
 * If the computer is shut down from Linux with the following commands:

 
 pci-config -#12 -S (for bringing the card in sleep condition)
 sleep 10
 /sbin/halt -dfi
 
 the machine shuts down and powers up properly with WOL. Now this is not 
 desirable, because halt -dfi shuts down the machine immediately, without 
 killing jobs, or umounting disks :-(
 
 * The goal is obviously to run pci-config just before /sbin/shutdown calls 
 halt. (Is done in the shutdown scripts /etc/init.d/halt.sh and 
 /etc/init.d/shutdown.sh)
 
 If I put the above commands in /etc/init.d/shutdown.sh, the machine shuts 
 down but won't wake up again.
 
 
 So, why is this sequence of commands working from the prompt (runlevel 3), 
 but not from the shutdown scripts???
 
 Has anyone any clue?
 
 Thanks,
 
 Elton
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Azhdeen
On Thursday 04 December 2003 18:59, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote:
 You're using gnome-terminal? Me too, and I have the same problem. Maybe
 gnome-terminal's to blame.
maybe not, Konsole behaves the same, but not always, and I can't find what 
makes it wrap OK or not.

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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Thomas Achtemichuk
On 12/04/03 11:05:43, Helder Rossa wrote:
my terminal in gnome when I'm writing a command bigger than the console
size it wraps the text to the same line that i was witting on :-S .
By default bash doesn't check it's window size after every command. The  
good thing is that you can make it. Add shopt -s checkwinsize to your
~/.bashrc or /etc/profile. Works like a charm.

To reproduce the error:
man bash
resize the window
quit, and type a long string at the prompt.
It will wrap at the window's original width and wrap onto the same line.
echo shopt -s checkwinsize  ~/.bashrc (or /etc/profile)
source ~/.bashrc
try again
It works correctly!

In my opinion this is something (along with a decent PS1) that should be  
added to the default /etc/profile or /etc/skel/.bashrc and the user should  
never have to set by themselves.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Norberto Bensa
Frédéric COIFFIER wrote:
 Le Jeudi 04 Décembre 2003 04:40, Norberto Bensa a écrit :
  Frédéric COIFFIER wrote:
   I'm disappointed...
 
  I use Ogg to encode my CDs because at half the size
  of MP3 it sounds twice better.

 Ok.
 So, what is the version of your Ogg Vorbis libraries ?
 When you use oggenc, what are the parameters you use ?

1.0.1

oggenc -q 5 gives files at ~160kbps that sound better than mp3 at 320kbps. 
Half the size, twice good: Ogg/Vorbis rocks! :-)

Regards,
Norberto

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Joel Konkle-Parker
Quoting Alan [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  In case you're wondering, you have to specify the --ogg option to make
 it
  completely Ogg-compatible. Here's my flac line:
  
  $ flac -V --ogg -8 -o something.flac something.wav
  
  -V verifies the conversion
  -8 gives maximum (lossless) compression
  -o names the output file
 
 When you say ogg-compatible do you mean that it'll be identified as
 an
 ogg file by anything that plays ogg (the docs and FAQ aren't
 completely
 clear on this). IE: I can have completely lossless compression and
 have
 it appear to be an ogg file?  Or am I missing something

I'm not really sure, actually. It just sounded like a Good Thing. I hear that
with that enabled, you can rename stuff to something.ogg and have it still be
FLAC inside. Don't know what the implications are, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] anoying terminal

2003-12-04 Thread Azhdeen
On Thursday 04 December 2003 19:49, Thomas Achtemichuk wrote:
 echo shopt -s checkwinsize  ~/.bashrc (or /etc/profile)
 source ~/.bashrc
 try again

 It works correctly!

 In my opinion this is something (along with a decent PS1) that should be
 added to the default /etc/profile or /etc/skel/.bashrc and the user should
 never have to set by themselves.

thanks, that seems to have fixed it for me :)
gotta write this down somewhere...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)

2003-12-04 Thread Alan
  When you say ogg-compatible do you mean that it'll be identified as
  an
  ogg file by anything that plays ogg (the docs and FAQ aren't
  completely
  clear on this). IE: I can have completely lossless compression and
  have
  it appear to be an ogg file?  Or am I missing something
 
 I'm not really sure, actually. It just sounded like a Good Thing. I hear that
 with that enabled, you can rename stuff to something.ogg and have it still be
 FLAC inside. Don't know what the implications are, though.

The website seems to indicate that you get extra overhead that's not
really needed, but perhaps in the interests of compatibility... I'll
have to play with this when I get home.  

alan

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Re: [gentoo-user] SATA, RAID 0, suggestions

2003-12-04 Thread Arturo di Gioia
On Thu, 2003-12-04 at 16:47, Arturo di Gioia wrote:

 Now I'm in that situation:
 -Intel i875P chipset (which, AFAIK, has two SATA slots and should be
 able to do (hardware?) RAID 0)
 -Promise Fasttrak S150 TX2plus PCI controller, where the two SATA hds
 are actually attached.
 No standard ATA hds.
 
 RedHat 9: 'officially' supported, installs using the driver I downloaded
 from the Promise website.

 I'd like to install Gentoo on that PC 
 My questions are:

 2) Did anyone succeed in installing Gentoo on it, maybe using kernel 2.6
 or the source code version of Promise driver (available 'as is' on their
 website)?

Update: I compiled the source code driver on a running Gentoo box, and
now I've got a nice ft3xx.o kernel module.
I'll try to boot a Gentoo LiveCD on the new PC and to load the kernel
module from a floppy disk.
If it succeeds, I'll hope to have access to my RAID array.
The problem could then be: once the system is installed, how can I make
the kernel load that module at boot time? RH is able to do that.
I googled a little and I found that I could load the module through
initrd (which, if I'm right is a packed filesystem directly loaded by
the bootloader with the kernel). I could check RH initrd and copy it.
I'll try it as I'll have some time. Did anyone do something similar in
the past to load some SCSI/RAID driver and has some hints for me? Does
someone of you know about the existence of any tutorial/howto? I admit I
still have to check the kernel-howto, maybe it has the answers I need.

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Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with head and tail?

2003-12-04 Thread Stroller
On Dec 4, 2003, at 10:51 am, Rudmer van Dijk wrote:
I noticed this about a week ago:
head: `-1' option is obsolete; use `-n 1'
Try `head --help' for more information.
...
why is this obsoleted?
And the most irritating part is that is not phased out, like giving a  
warning
and then continue, but it only gives an error and stops.

From  
http://www.gnu.org/software/coreutils/manual/html_mono/ 
coreutils.html#SEC7:

  In a few cases, the GNU utilities' default behavior is incompatible
  with the POSIX standard. To suppress these incompatibilities, define
  the POSIXLY_CORRECTenvironment variable. Unless you are checking for
  POSIX conformance, you probably do not need to define POSIXLY_CORRECT.
  Newer versions of POSIX are occasionally incompatible with older
  versions. For example, older versions of POSIX required the command
  `sort +1' to sort based on the second and succeeding fields in each
  input line, but starting with POSIX 1003.1-2001 the same command is
  required to sort the file named `+1', and you must instead use the
  command `sort -k 2' to get the field-based sort.
  The GNU utilities normally conform to the version of POSIX that is
  standard for your system. To cause them to conform to a different
  version of POSIX, define the _POSIX2_VERSION environment variable to a
  value of the form mm specifying the year and month the standard
  was adopted. Two values are currently supported for _POSIX2_VERSION:
  `199209' stands for POSIX 1003.2-1992, and `200112' stands for POSIX
  1003.1-2001. For example, if you are running older software that
  assumes an older version of POSIX and uses `sort +1', you can work
  around the compatibility problems by setting `_POSIX2_VERSION=199209'
  in your environment.
I seem to recall that this sort of behavior is problematic to the  
porting of Portage to other Unices (BSD  Mac OS X spring to mind) so I  
took a look at http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/gentoo-alt/macos-1.xml:

  while Portage itself can run on
  these platforms, some ebuilds and eclasses currently contain
  Linux-specific conventions, particularly in how auxilliary programs
  like xargs, find and tar are called. These variations can cause an
  ebuild to execute correctly in a GNU environment but not in a BSD
  environment, or vice-versa.
drobbins proposes this solution, so hopefully the Gentoo developers  
will remedy your situation:

  The general strategy to address these issues should be as follows.
  First, an emphasis should be placed on writing shell code that is
  truly cross-platform in nature. Second, when there is no suitable
  cross-platform code, Portage should provide a general framework to
  allow ebuilds to easily adapt to situations to where variant calls are
  needed. Here is how Portage addresses the situation currently.
HTH,

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Re: [gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config

2003-12-04 Thread SN
Ah boy, now it made the round and people get crazy.


Hey you don't have to block traffic from inside to outside, then in general
you should block all ports and only open up ports you need for services that
want to be accessed from outside. . The rsync problem only affects rsync
servers not clients, clients aren't vulnerable, to do emerge sync you only
need the client.

Guys please do me a favour don't get crazy now because a server got hacked
through rsync, rather read some basics about firewalling.




- Original Message - 
From: Jonathan Stickel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 04, 2003 7:14 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] rsync port - firewall config


 I've setup a firewall with Guarddog, which I use because it is
 relatively simple but seems to be comprehensive.  However, it does not
 have rsync in its protocol list.  I've tried to make a user-defined
 protocol for port 873 (which is the rsync port I believe), but it
 doesn't seem to work.  I cannot use rsync unless I temporarily
 deactivate the firewall.  As you know, allowing rsync is necessary to do
 an 'emerge sync'!

 I'm wondering if anyone else uses Guarddog and has come up with a
 solution.  If not, I will entertain simple iptable snippets that I can
 manually enter into the Guarddog generated /etc/rc.firewall.

 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Excluding maildirs from updatedb

2003-12-04 Thread Paul Varner
Stroller wrote:
 Personally, I just execute 'updatedb -e dir1,dir2,dir3

 where dir1, etc. is the fully qualified path for a directory I want
 to exclude.

 Whilst this is practical on my current system, it wouldn't be should I
 expand to 50... 500... 5000 users. So I guess that in that case I'd
 have to write a script to read usernames from /etc/passwd  enter
 /home/$USERNAME/.Maildir into PRUNPATHS, which is rather a chore.
 Any other suggestions much appreciated.

Actually, the solution is to use the -e option.  In the
/etc/cron.daily/slocate script change the line the reads:

/usr/bin/updatedb
to:
/usr/bin/updatedb -e $(echo /home/*/.Maildir | tr ' ' ',')

When you execute the command updatedb, it always reads the
/etc/updatedb.conf file, so all you are doing here is adding those
directories to the exclude list that is defined in the updatedb.conf file.

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[gentoo-user] XDirectFB and Gnome problems

2003-12-04 Thread Thomas Richards
Hi,
 I recently decided to try using the XDirectFB.  I got it to work with 
a bunch of window managers(but not KDE), so I decided to try out gnome.  
Launching gnome with the XDirectFB has no problems, and usng it is a 
blast.  The only problem is that I can't kill gnome without having a 
fight with the terminal and killing the process.  When I use 
Crtl+Alt+Backspace it kills it then it starts up again.  Anyone know how 
to stop gnome from keep coming back up?  This also happens when I'm not 
on the XDirectFB also.

Tom

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