date:20040126

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:15:17 +
Stroller <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> On Jan 27, 2004, at 12:18 am, Collins Richey wrote:
> >
> > 1. 2.5/2.6 has been a smoother transition on my machines (AthlonXP and 
> > P4) than 2.3/2.4 was.  Nary a burp.  My personal experience only.  No 
> > scientific study.  YMMV.  My opinion and $2.00 will buy you coffee 
> > most places in the world.
> 
> Clearly yours is an American-centric opinion. Others have suggested 
> that some 2.6 kernels may have issues with non-US keyboards, I would 
> like to point you to the story the Economist 
>  published 
> a couple of weeks ago. In Europe the average price of a tall latte is 
> quoted as 2.93 or $3.70.
> 
> I shall be printing out your posting and popping into Starbucks 
> tomorrow to see if your opinion is worth a $1.70 discount.
> 

At least some of us still have a sense of humor!

P.S. It's been about 40 years since I was "across the pond," so prices and stores may 
have changed a little bit.

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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo installation fails

2004-01-26 Thread LoneStar

Koala Gnu wrote:

I was unable to send the whole build result. So I attach only the 
error message:


ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   
/va/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image/usr/share/man/man1/info.1
/bin/install: cannot create regular file 
`/va/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image///usr/share/man/man1/info.1': 
Permission denied
/bin/install -c -m 644 ./install-info.1 
/var/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image//usr/share/man/man1/install-info.1
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   
/va/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image/usr/share/man/man1/install-info.1
/bin/install: cannot create regular file 
`/va/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image///usr/share/man/man1/install-info.1': 
Permission denied
/bin/install -c -m 644 ./makeinfo.1 
/var/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image//usr/share/man/man1/makeinfo.1
Just or kicks, maually create a link to /var and call it /va to see what 
happens.

# ln -s va var

This should fool the install into thinking there is a directory named va 
and place everything where it's needed.
It looks like the ebuilder mistyped and left the 'r' off.

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit


Krikket said:
> (Yes, I'm going to
> be switching over to Gentoo on my server soon, but first I have to
> figure these things out.

What do you currently use that will transfer large files but won't
run on gentoo?

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

2004-01-26 Thread Krikket

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Kurt Bechstein wrote:

> Go with vsftpd.  It is super fast and super secure.  I've never had a problem
> with it myself.  I've never tried transfering a file that large, but it would
> be the first alternative I would try.

The problem with vsftp that I've found, is that it doesn't do name-based
virtual servers all that well.  (Maybe at all, once I saw the headache I'd
be in for, I decided to abandon that idea.)

So, for those of us who want to be able to use multiple domains on the
same IP, do you have any reccomendations?  (Yes, I'm going to be switching
over to Gentoo on my server soon, but first I have to figure these things
out.  I'd rather avoid another stop-gap measure...)

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

2004-01-26 Thread Kurt Bechstein

Go with vsftpd.  It is super fast and super secure.  I've never had a problem
with it myself.  I've never tried transfering a file that large, but it would
be the first alternative I would try.



On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 08:11:13PM -0800, Eric Paynter wrote:
> Eric Paynter said:
> > It's starting to point towards proftpd now so I'm going to wander
> > over to their support and see if I find anything. Thanks everyone
> > for your help!
> 
> Final follow up: the proftp group says this isn't a bug, it's a
> feature request. The feature to be able to FTP files > 2GB will be
> added in version 1.3, which is not available yet. So much for it
> being a "pro" ftp server...
> 
> Anybody have any alternate server suggestions?
> 
> Thx,
> 
> -Eric
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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

Eric Paynter said:
> It's starting to point towards proftpd now so I'm going to wander
> over to their support and see if I find anything. Thanks everyone
> for your help!

Final follow up: the proftp group says this isn't a bug, it's a
feature request. The feature to be able to FTP files > 2GB will be
added in version 1.3, which is not available yet. So much for it
being a "pro" ftp server...

Anybody have any alternate server suggestions?

Thx,

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

Matthew Kennedy said:
> Check if your choice of FTP server software (and perhaps the
> client??) supports the LFS API (large file support).  Possibly you
> may need to specify "lfs" in your USE.

Doesn't look like either support it:

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.9_rc2 ]
 + + ldap : Adds LDAP support (Lightweight Directory Access
Protocol)
 + + pam  : Adds support PAM (Pluggable Authentication Modules)
 - - postgres : Adds support for the postgresql database
 + + mysql: Adds mySQL support
 + + ssl  : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections
 + + tcpd : Adds support for TCP wrappers
 - - ipv6 : Adds support for IP version 6

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r3 ]
 + + ssl : Adds support for Secure Socket Layer connections


>  Also, is your FTP dir on NFS?

Negative. All direct-attached storage.

It's starting to point towards proftpd now so I'm going to wander
over to their support and see if I find anything. Thanks everyone
for your help!

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

Ciaran McCreesh said:
> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:28:24 -0800 (PST) "Eric Paynter"
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> | I'm not sure if this is a protocol limitation or if the client
> or | server is letting me down, but my FTP transfer is failing.
> The size | of the file that ends up on the disk is 2147483647
> bytes which is | exactly (2^31 - 1) or 2GB - 1 byte.
>
> Can you reproduce this using wget? That'll at least tell you
> whether the client or the server is to blame.

wget spit this out. I guess I'll focus on the server now...

Length: -1,418,363,744 (unauthoritative)
[<=>   ] 2,146,706,600  
 7.75M/s File size limit exceeded

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] hotplug problems - hheellpp!!

2004-01-26 Thread Andrew Farmer

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:05:48 -0800, Mark Knecht muttered:
>However, and this is the bigger problem, when attempting to shut down the
> machine I get the following sort of message: (typed here from notes)
> 
> Stopping USB and PCI hot plugging...
> usb.c: deregistering driver hiddev...
> usb.c: deregistering driver hid...
> 
> devfs_put(c3e427c0): poisoned pointer
> Forcing Oops
> 
> kernel BUG at base.c: 914

Talk to the good folks on LKML; this looks like a kernel bug.

What kernel are you using? If you aren't using vanilla 2.4.24 or 2.6.1, try
either of the two and see if the problems persist.

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[gentoo-user] sensors.conf for MSI K7D Master

2004-01-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney

I have a server with a MSI K7D Master mobo running Gentoo. When I run 'sensors', I get 
output like:

w83627hf-isa-0290
Adapter: ISA adapter
Algorithm: ISA algorithm
VCore 1:   +1.63 V  (min =  +1.48 V, max =  +1.80 V)
VCore 2:   +2.49 V  (min =  +1.48 V, max =  +1.80 V)
+3.3V: +3.28 V  (min =  +2.97 V, max =  +3.63 V)
+5V:   +4.97 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.48 V)
+12V: +12.20 V  (min = +10.79 V, max = +13.11 V)
-12V: -12.03 V  (min = -13.21 V, max = -10.90 V)
-5V:   -5.07 V  (min =  -5.51 V, max =  -4.51 V)
V5SB:  +5.39 V  (min =  +4.50 V, max =  +5.48 V)
VBat:  +3.48 V  (min =  +2.70 V, max =  +3.29 V)
fan1:0 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
fan2: 4272 RPM  (min = 3000 RPM, div = 2)
fan3: 4326 RPM  (min =  750 RPM, div = 8)
temp1:   +38°C  (limit =  +60°C)   sensor = thermistor
temp2: +76.0°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C) sensor = PII/Celeron diode 
ALARM
temp3: +79.0°C  (limit =  +60°C, hysteresis =  +50°C) sensor = PII/Celeron diode 
ALARM
vid:  +1.650 V
alarms:
beep_enable:
  Sound alarm disabled

which obviously can't be right because my system is running stable. If I reboot into the 
BIOS, it tells me temps about 24C less that what lm_sensors reports. I don't know how 
accurate the mobo temp sensor (temp1) is. Does anyone have a sensors.conf for this 
particular board that reports correct values?

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RE: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit


Brenden Walker said:
> What filesystem is in place where the files are being stored?

>From reiserfs to ext3. Both filesystems have files >2GB on them, so
I don't think they're to blame.


> It's certainly not a limitation of the FTP protocol, as I've
> transferred files > 6gig via FTP with no problems.

hmmm... must be the client or the server then...

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 02:15:17 + Stroller
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I shall be printing out your posting and popping into Starbucks 
| tomorrow to see if your opinion is worth a $1.70 discount.

Since when did Starbucks sell coffee? Is this a new thing?

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

2004-01-26 Thread Stroller

On Jan 27, 2004, at 12:18 am, Collins Richey wrote:
1. 2.5/2.6 has been a smoother transition on my machines (AthlonXP and 
P4) than 2.3/2.4 was.  Nary a burp.  My personal experience only.  No 
scientific study.  YMMV.  My opinion and $2.00 will buy you coffee 
most places in the world.
Clearly yours is an American-centric opinion. Others have suggested 
that some 2.6 kernels may have issues with non-US keyboards, I would 
like to point you to the story the Economist 
 published 
a couple of weeks ago. In Europe the average price of a tall latte is 
quoted as €2.93 or $3.70.

I shall be printing out your posting and popping into Starbucks 
tomorrow to see if your opinion is worth a $1.70 discount.

Stroller.

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[gentoo-user] Problem with module-init-tools-3.0_pre6

2004-01-26 Thread Bruce Munro

I'm currently running a ~x86 gentoo setup with a 2.6.1-gentoo-r1 kernel.
So all bleeding edge stuff I suppose. So, this morning I performed a
periodic 'emerge -u world' to get all the latest updates, and ran into a
problem with module-init-tools-3.0_pre6 (upgraded from pre5 which worked
fine).

Having booted back into Gentoo, after a spot of tinkering with FreeBSD,
I saw a bunch of module related errors on the boot screen. Firstly,
following the "Calculating module dependencies" message I got the
following series of errors:

FATAL: Module off not found.
FATAL: Module ide-probe-mod not found.
FATAL: Module off not found.
FATAL: Module st not found.
FATAL: Module ide-probe-mod not found.
FATAL: Module ide-tape not found.
FATAL: Module off not found.
FATAL: Module st not found.
FATAL: Module ide-probe-mod not found.
FATAL: Module ide-tape not found.

Then a bit later, when loading the soundcard modules, I get:

Error inserting snd-via82xx
(/lib/modules/2.6.1-gentoo-r1/kernel/sound/pci/snd-via82xx.ko): Unknown
symbol in module, or unknown parameter (see dmesg).

And in the syslog I see:

Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_set_rate
Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol
snd_ac97_update_bits
Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol snd_ac97_bus
Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol
snd_mpu401_uart_interrupt
Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol snd_mpu401_uart_new
Jan 26 21:45:14 [kernel] snd_via82xx: Unknown symbol
snd_ac97_tune_hardware

The system seemed OK after this, other than the sound being dead, which
given the errors, was no surprise! I restored things to normality by
doing:

emerge -C module-init-tools
emerge =module-init-tools-3.0-pre5

and rebooting.

Does anyone have an inkling of what's happening here? I'm no expert on
the ins and outs of the modprobe.conf file, and unfortunately following
the reboot the modprobe.conf from the pre6 version got overwritten, so
no diff comparison, unless I upgrade the package again. Also, where else
would be a good place to take this problem? The kernel.org mailing lists
perhaps?

-Bruce





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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] New way to finance OSS development

2004-01-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Renat Golubchyk wrote:
Hi!

Sorry for a totally offtopic post, but I couldn't resist. Check the following 
item on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4619&item=3656891141
Approximately  US $456,257.44

Hmm, I think somebody hopes the auction gets cancelled before it ends...

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Re: [gentoo-user] acpi

2004-01-26 Thread Jerry McBride

On Monday 26 January 2004 01:26 pm, Christian Hergl wrote:
> Hi Jesus,
>
> I can at least confirm that the acpi in the 2.6.1 gentoo-dev-sources
> behaves a bit strangely. I don't get any battery stats ind /proc nor can
> I use any utilities in KDE.
>
> However, I found the acpi in 2.6.0 working without problem on this Dell
> Latitude 500m. Well, at least with the cpu frequency scaling and battery
> stats.

Must be DELL specific... acpi works 100% here from 2.6.0 to 2.6.2-rc2 on all 
the compaqs I shepherd...

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 10:01:01 -0800
Ted Ozolins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> 
> >Well, i personally agree to what Collins said in the first mail. I really do think 
> >that the problems with the (supposedly) less-stable 2.6 kernels less common.
> >
> >And people, how did you come to the conclusion that mostly "kernel-knowedgeable" 
> >people use the 2.6 series?? I mean, i don't think of myself as Mr Lamer, i can't 
> >hack the kernel in one afternoon either (that was probably a bit uptight, but i 
> >hope you get the picture).
> >
> >I think that the main reason why to use the 2.6 kernel is the performance increase 
> >especially in X, and the overall speed and i daresay stability. And unless someone 
> >really plans to do weird shit with the kernel, i doubt he will come across some 
> >significant problems...
> >
> >  
> >
> I'm begining to believe that the kernel developers jumped the 2.4.x ship 
> a bit too soon to get on with 2.6.x. I've experience all sorts of small 
> pita problems as I've migrated up the 2.4.x tree.  Once I've caught up 
> on some of my work here, (dang! I knew I should have drained that swamp, 
> way too many critters to deal with) I'll be giving 2.6.x a shot on my 
> main system. I have found that a lot of the "kernel savey" users aren't 
> always the first to move up to a new kernel. The new kids on the block 
> seem to lead perhaps because they feel that they must have the latest 
> and greatest new toy.  Having said that, "less problems reported because 
> the user base have a greater knowledge in dealing with kernel related 
> problems" falls way short of the truth.  If I recall correctly,  the 
> first 2.4.x series started out with one patch after another. I ran with 
> the 2.2.x on my firewall (upgraded and patched manytimes) untill this 
> past weekend.  That will be brought up to the 2.6.x kernel this coming 
> weekend. My lab_rat has been running 2.6.1-rc1 without as much as a 
> burp. I will be installing a new ATI card on it this week and see how 
> that goes, if well then I'll be updating all the machines here to 
> 2.6.1-rc1 or what ever is available on gentoo.  I do not consider myself 
> a linux expert nor am I a kernel(or anything else) hacker, my 
> observations are merely from an end user perspective.
> 

Sorry (but not really, it does provide lots of valuable information) to stir up a 
hornet's nest.  I'll retire with the following (tame, I hope observations):

1. 2.5/2.6 has been a smoother transition on my machines (AthlonXP and P4) than 
2.3/2.4 was.  Nary a burp.  My personal experience only.  No scientific study.  YMMV.  
My opinion and $2.00 will buy you coffee most places in the world.

2. I was only being honest when I said there were more reports of problems with 2.4 on 
this mailing group than with 2.6.  Until I opened the door, I hadn't read a-n-y 
complaints about keyboards, which is not to say that they don't exist.  Maybe they've 
been reported on forums which I don't follow with any regularity.

3. You really can't discount screwups with the gentoo kernel sources.  A screwup is a 
screwup, and stable it's not.  I'll also stick by my guns: there are nearly as many 
fixes going into 2.4 as I see going into 2.6.  As to whether that is stable behavior 
is a good question.  I would expect lots of fixes on 2.6 (it's brand new), but IMO the 
last couple of dot releases of 2.4 seem to have been served up medium rare rather than 
fully cooked.

4. I used nvidia drivers on my AthlonXP system from late 2.5 through latest for me 
(see sig) without any additional problems beyond those seen on 2.4.  But then I don't 
use frame buffer.  And yes, nvidia drivers are binary crap that is not maintainable 
=== no different from the situation on 2.4.  The nvidia drivers produce lots of 
failure messages (a few hundred a day) on both 2.4 and 2.6 on my AthlonXP system; but 
there are no X failures.  Since I'm not a gamer, I probably should revert to the 
standard X drivers.

5. I like to tinker with newer kernels (does that count as kernel savey?), but if I 
encounter problems I back out and wait on any kernel series.  No need ever to back out 
on my machines since 2.5 days.  Plenty of people have reported backing out of not 
quite ready 2.4 dot releases.

I've been pleased with the quality of 2.6 releases, but then as Ted said, I don't have 
any "weird shit" on my machines.

Enjoy.

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[gentoo-user] [OT] New way to finance OSS development

2004-01-26 Thread Renat Golubchyk

Hi!

Sorry for a totally offtopic post, but I couldn't resist. Check the following 
item on ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=4619&item=3656891141


Cheers,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread Bob White

I built an MP3 player for the car using one of the Epia boards.  I'm powering in the 
car
with an Opus Solutions 12 VDC ATX powersupply -- no inverter needed.  It puts out 150
watts, which is more than enough for the HD and Epia.  I think I'm using 65 of the 150
watts, IIRC.

The cool thing is that when the power supply comes on, it has a lead that you connect 
to
the power switch on the MB.  It's just like pressing the power key.  When I get in and
turn the key on, the PC is playing music in about 20 seconds.

> I would say, this is not the most low power solution u can have.
> I was thinking about Via EPIA, since it has another advantages ...
> all in one, low power, small dimensions etc.
> Let's have a look to this URL: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=378

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Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird/Thunderbird

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:06:18 +0100
Rune Nesheim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 14:35 Mon 26 Jan , Cristiano Paris wrote:
> > 
> > Anyway I'm experiencing some trouble: MozillaFirebird opens correctly
> > PDFs files embedding them in the Web Page. Anyway, the Acroread Plugin
> > seems to suck all of my CPU power. It gets 99% of my CPU time. Under
> > Mozilla Seamonkey it works just fine.
> > 
> 
> plugger combined with ggv works fine for me, not much help if you need
> to open Acrobat-Reader-only pdf's (do they exsist?). Just though I give
> those two a plug..
> 
>

Can't reproduce here.  MF from CVS, Acroread5, and kernel as below, plugin uses a 
negligible amount of CPU time.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Jakub Krajcovic wrote:

snip

Yeah, i was literally bombarded by the via epia when i was browsing carputer sites, but i don't see why i should invest additional funds into something i don't actually need...

OK, it makes no sense to talk about it if I really don't
know what's the purpose of that PC in car.
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

david stevenson wrote:
On Monday 26 January 2004 7:30 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:

Hmmm, I think you will find the actual power used is not the important figure.
Power on peak will come in to it, but PC power supplies are expecting a sine 
wave they can pull large pulses of power from and inverters put out a current 
limited square wave, they do not work well together. Vastly oversizing may be 
OK, but I have not tried it.
David
I am a bit familiar with PC power supply construction,
so IMHO this is hardly true.
No one PC UPS, I know gives sine wave on the output.
Usually it's approximated only in very few steps.
I thing the problem is RF noise, which must
not exceed given limits, not the waves shape itself
(but indeed, it depends on it).
I am sure it's possible to find power supply, which will work
perfect even with square wave.
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Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo installation fails

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 11:59:35AM +0100, Koala Gnu wrote:
> I was unable to send the whole build result. So I attach only the error 
> message:

[skpd]

> ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   
> /va/tmp/portage/texinfo-4.5/image/usr/share/man/man1/texindex.1
> /bin/install: cannot create regular file 

It's probably not a very good idea to send _everything_ to a mail list. I'm sure
you'll get better response if you narrow your question / error output.
Anyway, check your /etc/make.conf and make sure your PORTAGE_TMPDIR="/var/tmp" looks
reasonable. Judging from the above error it may be going to the wrong place.

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[gentoo-user] Lucent Winmodem driver for 2.6 kernel

2004-01-26 Thread Jernej Zidar

The ltmodem driver for 2.6.x kernel can be found at this site:
http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/packages/ltmodem/kernel-2.6/ltmodem-2.6-alk-v00.tar.gz

Read the README file inside the archive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread Ted Ozolins

david stevenson wrote:

On Monday 26 January 2004 7:30 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 

Hi guys,

FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
motherboard:QDI Legend I
processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
 old one got
fried by a sudden power surge) optional:DVD ROM (probably one of the new
toshibas)
I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess)
googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer.. I'm asking, because I
decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of inverter I
should buy.
   

Hmmm, I think you will find the actual power used is not the important figure.
Power on peak will come in to it, but PC power supplies are expecting a sine 
wave they can pull large pulses of power from and inverters put out a current 
limited square wave, they do not work well together. Vastly oversizing may be 
OK, but I have not tried it.
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What makes you think that the computer power-supply is expecting a sine 
wave?  The current is rectified and filtered then goes through switcher 
circuit to provide the various voltages for your computer.  The square 
wave might normally create some noise, but in the power-supply used in 
computers, the filters seem to take care of it nicely.  However, Why 
would you even bother with the expense of an inverter when for about the 
same money you can get a switcher that would replace the existing 
power-supply and run off of a secondary battery. Less heat to worry 
about and less to trouble-shoot if anything goes wrong.  Now that I've 
just wasted all this band-width, why would you want to? There are all 
kinds of low-power mb/cpu combo's on the market that are not quite the 
power-hogs that desk-tops are? Some of these mobile cpu offerings will 
do everything bu park your car for you.  Using a desk-top as a mobile 
computer would be sucking 20 to 30 amps from your vehicle (might even be 
more) I think you are very close to 200 to 250 watts consumption on a 
desktop running Cel 333 and since power supplies are not 100% efficient, 
that still (@100% ef) translate to over 20 amps (thats not including 
your monitor)

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Re: [gentoo-user] post-install slowness


Do you remember using any connection pooling for database connections?
This kind of stuff usually makes a big performance difference and it's likely that
you've lost it while migrating your system.


On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 10:47:56PM -0600, Greg Donald wrote:
> 
> Over the weekend I reinstalled my web server.  Previously it had RedHat8
> on it, and due to RedHat declaring end of life on my distro, my server
> now has Gentoo on it.  The install went off without a hitch and this
> afternoon I proceeded in installing Apache2, mod_php, and MySQL, among
> other things. The entire box overall is a little bit faster than it used
> to be, except for MySQL.
> 
> When I pull a webpage that does any sort of db connection, the page load
> time is noticable slower than it used to be.  When I pull a static page
> that has no PHP or db code in it, the page flies, almost instantaneous
> as it's always been previously.  I used to run Apche 1.3.x and my MySQL
> version is nearly the same as it used to be.  So Apache2 is the only
> significant version difference from what I used to run.
> 
> So before I go to all the trouble of removing Apache2 and emerging
> Apache1, mod_php, etc., I was wondering if anyone might know what I'm
> doing wrong or might know something I need to reconfigure to fix the
> slowness?  I'm pretty sure I don't need all those "LoadModule" calls in
> /etc/apache2/conf/apache2.conf, but could that seriously be causing the
> slowness?
> 
> Also, I think it's worth mentioning I replaced /etc/mysql/my.cnf with my
> own settings from my old setup:
> 
> > cat /etc/mysql/my.cnf
> [mysqld]
> query_cache_size=8M
> max_connections=200
> datadir=/home/mysql
> 
> I don't think anything there that would cause slowness and MySQL flies
> when using the CLI MySQL client.  It's only when I pull a webpage that I
> see the MySQL slowness.
> 
> I know all the reasons why Apache2 isn't really recommended for use, the
> thread safeness and all.  Is this _my_ issue here?
> 
> TIA!
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Yeah, i was literally bombarded by the via epia when i was browsing carputer sites, 
but i don't see why i should invest additional funds into something i don't actually 
need...

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 23:42:16 +0100
Norbert Kamenicky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> > 
> > FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an estimate of 
> > how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> > 
> > motherboard:QDI Legend I
> > processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
> > graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
> > sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
> > HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
> >  old one got fried by a sudden power surge)
> > optional:   DVD ROM (probably one of the new toshibas)
> > 
> > I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess) googling, 
> > and havent found a satisfactory answer..
> > I'm asking, because I decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type 
> > of inverter I should buy. 
> > 
> 
> I would say, this is not the most low power solution u can have.
> I was thinking about Via EPIA, since it has another advantages ...
> all in one, low power, small dimensions etc.
> Let's have a look to this URL: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=378
> 
> But I am curious why u like to built it in ...
> I need it for CAN-bus only.
> 
> noro
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] `su -`taking ~15 seconds after password?

A bit too late now, but sometimes it's helpful to run 'strace' or 'ltrace' on the
program in question. I've had a problem like that long time ago and the only thing
I remember about it is that it was some kind of interaction between su and X11 
authentication system and it got fixed by unsetting DISPLAY (this was inside a script).
I do remember, though, that we found it by running either strace or ltrace and seeing
it time out in one of the calls.

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 06:37:02PM +, Greg Bolshaw wrote:
> On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 04:42, Mike Arrison wrote:
> > Run 'top' in one console while su'ing in another.  See if anything major
> > is taking cycles.
> 
> Nothing at all. It just seemed to idle - no change whatsoever to CPU or
> memory usage.
> 
> I've now fixed this by re-emerging sys-libs/pam. Not sure what caused
> it.
> 
> Thanks for your suggestion.
> 
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> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] possible to mount home directory on login?

On Mon, Jan 26, 2004 at 10:30:17AM +, Fred Labrosse wrote:
> Linus harling writes:
>  > Ian Truelsen wrote:
>  > 
>  > >Is it possible, assuming that each user's home directory is on a
>  > >separate partition, to have the user's home directory mount only when
>  > >they login and then umount on logout?
>  > >  
>  > >
>  > 
>  > autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142) does exactly 
>  > that...
>  > 
> 
> But it does not work with smb (at least, it doesn't with the version I
> tried (old RH7.x machine).
> 
> Does it now?


Works for me on RH 8.0 (using it to mount VMware drives):

>From my automounter config file:
vmware_c 
-fstype=smb,ip=andrey-vm,workgroup=vindigo.com,uid=andrey,gid=users,fmask=755,credentials=/etc/smb.vmware.login
 ://Andrey-vm/vmware_c

Note 'credentials' parameter. It's ugly and has my password in clear text 
but it doesn't need to be 'world-readable' for the thing to work.
Far from ideal solution but may give you some ideas.


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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

2004-01-26 Thread Matthew Kennedy

Eric Paynter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> I'm not sure if this is a protocol limitation or if the client or
> server is letting me down, but my FTP transfer is failing. The size
> of the file that ends up on the disk is 2147483647 bytes which is
> exactly (2^31 - 1) or 2GB - 1 byte.
>
> I'm using:
>
> client: net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r2
> server: net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.9_rc2
>
> The session:

[...]

Check if your choice of FTP server software (and perhaps the
client??) supports the LFS API (large file support).  Possibly you
may need to specify "lfs" in your USE.  Also, is your FTP dir on NFS?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
Hi guys,

FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:

motherboard:QDI Legend I
processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
 old one got fried by a sudden power surge)
optional:   DVD ROM (probably one of the new toshibas)
I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess) googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer..
I'm asking, because I decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of inverter I should buy. 

I would say, this is not the most low power solution u can have.
I was thinking about Via EPIA, since it has another advantages ...
all in one, low power, small dimensions etc.
Let's have a look to this URL: http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=378
But I am curious why u like to built it in ...
I need it for CAN-bus only.
noro





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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread david stevenson

On Monday 26 January 2004 10:02 pm, Dennis Allison wrote:
> I looked at this issue long ago.  Solid state inverters are not a good
> idea because they put out square waves.  The tried and true solution is
> a motor generator.

Now that I like, have not seen one for years.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Openssh, public key and passwords.

2004-01-26 Thread Marshal Newrock

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Olli wrote:

> How I can disable password authentication to single user (with ssh)?
> User needs password to local login, but I want to deny ssh -logins with
> password.

If you have ssh using pam, I would use pam_listfile in /etc/pam.d/sshd, to
let you specify a list of users for whom auth will fail.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

Well, i really hated the windows icons for one,
and then i didn't like that it was like the gimp - opened like 5 windows, but i didnt 
have "a solid background" that put it all together
if you know what i mean. Also, the controls were pretty frustrating at first...

But basically, this all can be overcome, i suppose that i was just biased against it 
in the first place (but don't ask me why, i really don't know)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 20:03:09 +0100
"SN" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Why did it suck :-)
> 
> 
> 
> - Original Message - 
> From: "Jakub Krajcovic" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:13 AM
> Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop
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[gentoo-user] hotplug problems - hheellpp!!

2004-01-26 Thread Mark Knecht

Hi,
   I have the feeling I'll be writing a few messages on this one. I have
hotplug emerged. I tried enabling hotplug using rc-update, both in boot and
default levels, but in both cases at boot time I get a boot screen full of
script. None of it is saved in any file I can find.

   However, and this is the bigger problem, when attempting to shut down the
machine I get the following sort of message: (typed here from notes)

Stopping USB and PCI hot plugging...
usb.c: deregistering driver hiddev...
usb.c: deregistering driver hid...

devfs_put(c3e427c0): poisoned pointer
Forcing Oops

kernel BUG at base.c: 914

and then a bunch of numbers and CPU code stuff...

At the point the machine is hung and I have to hit the reset button.

What's going on? More important, what can I try to fix this?

Thanks,
Mark



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Re: [gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird/Thunderbird

2004-01-26 Thread Rune Nesheim

On 14:35 Mon 26 Jan , Cristiano Paris wrote:
> 
> Anyway I'm experiencing some trouble: MozillaFirebird opens correctly
> PDFs files embedding them in the Web Page. Anyway, the Acroread Plugin
> seems to suck all of my CPU power. It gets 99% of my CPU time. Under
> Mozilla Seamonkey it works just fine.
> 

plugger combined with ggv works fine for me, not much help if you need
to open Acrobat-Reader-only pdf's (do they exsist?). Just though I give
those two a plug..

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error

2004-01-26 Thread SN

Emerge iptables again.

- Original Message - 
From: "Catalin Constantin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 12:28 PM
Subject: [gentoo-user] iptables error


> i get the following error when trying to add an iptables rule.
>
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved
symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved
symbol nf_register_sockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod
/lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod
ip_tables failed
> iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables who?
(do you need to insmod?)
> Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be upgraded.
>
> gentoo root # epm -qf /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/
> vanilla-sources-2.4.22
>
> any hints ?
>
> thank you !
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread Dennis Allison

I looked at this issue long ago.  Solid state inverters are not a good
idea because they put out square waves.  The tried and true solution is 
a motor generator.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, david stevenson wrote:

> On Monday 26 January 2004 7:30 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
> > estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> >
> > motherboard:QDI Legend I
> > processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
> > graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
> > sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
> > HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
> >  old one got
> > fried by a sudden power surge) optional:DVD ROM (probably one of the new
> > toshibas)
> >
> > I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess)
> > googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer.. I'm asking, because I
> > decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of inverter I
> > should buy.
> 
> Hmmm, I think you will find the actual power used is not the important figure.
> Power on peak will come in to it, but PC power supplies are expecting a sine 
> wave they can pull large pulses of power from and inverters put out a current 
> limited square wave, they do not work well together. Vastly oversizing may be 
> OK, but I have not tried it.
> David
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop

2004-01-26 Thread SN

Why did it suck :-)



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To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 1:13 AM
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Substitute for Kdevelop




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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Actually there are pure sine-wave inverters available (at additional cost though). 
Just FYI,

But thanks a lot guys, i have already solved this and i even know where i'm gonna get 
my invertor...

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:30:31 +
david stevenson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Monday 26 January 2004 7:30 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> > Hi guys,
> >
> > FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
> > estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> >
> > motherboard:QDI Legend I
> > processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
> > graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
> > sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
> > HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
> >  old one got
> > fried by a sudden power surge) optional:DVD ROM (probably one of the new
> > toshibas)
> >
> > I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess)
> > googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer.. I'm asking, because I
> > decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of inverter I
> > should buy.
> 
> Hmmm, I think you will find the actual power used is not the important figure.
> Power on peak will come in to it, but PC power supplies are expecting a sine 
> wave they can pull large pulses of power from and inverters put out a current 
> limited square wave, they do not work well together. Vastly oversizing may be 
> OK, but I have not tried it.
> David
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] possible to mount home directory on login?

2004-01-26 Thread Ian Truelsen

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:54:08 +0100
Linus harling <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Haven't tried, but i think it should, as far as I know it's just mount
> automated...
> Doesn't smb require user input? Password that is? That might cause
> some Problems... 

What kind of problems are we talking about? I was planning on using this
with a cryptoloop file system, so I am going to have to have user input
at mount.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread david stevenson

On Monday 26 January 2004 7:30 pm, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> Hi guys,
>
> FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an
> estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
>
> motherboard:  QDI Legend I
> processor:Celeron 333 MHz
> graphics: STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
> sound:SB Live! player (pci)
> HDD:  probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
>  old one got
> fried by a sudden power surge) optional:  DVD ROM (probably one of the new
> toshibas)
>
> I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess)
> googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer.. I'm asking, because I
> decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of inverter I
> should buy.

Hmmm, I think you will find the actual power used is not the important figure.
Power on peak will come in to it, but PC power supplies are expecting a sine 
wave they can pull large pulses of power from and inverters put out a current 
limited square wave, they do not work well together. Vastly oversizing may be 
OK, but I have not tried it.
David

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Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 9600 XT not supported in Gentoo?

2004-01-26 Thread Jernej Zidar

I definitely would give a try to 2.6x but the ltmodem driver doesn't
compile. yes, I'm still using dialup. Actually I tested the 2.6.1 kernel
with my old graphic card and I was impressed by the speed of the boot-up.

thx 4 the tip
JZidar

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Re: [gentoo-user] recommended server dual cpu mb

On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 23:47:21 -0800 Alan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Could you throw me a link or reference for this?  I couldn't find any
| information about this in my searches :)  Mayhap I'll try again
| tomorrow with a different liveCD.  

Look through the lkml and linux-scsi archives for "adaptec" from the
past couple of months. It was a rather highly discussed issue...

You can find archives at http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/ if yours don't go
back far enough.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Keyboard layouts (was: Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development)

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 21:58:08 +0200 Tommi Pirinen
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| >If you think 2.6.x kernels are stable, try using an unpatched 2.6.1
| >kernel with a GB or Japanese (or possibly German) keyboard. 
| >
| Actually, almost any non-english keyboard is affected somehow.

That doesn't surprise me, but I can't test those :)

| >Such as non-US keyboards being totally broken, you mean? :) (If
| >anyone cares, this is fixed in 2.6.2-rc2.)
| >
| Fixed, really? Did they restore the old "broken" key mapping then, or
| is there some temporary patch in place? Because as far as I remember
| the whole issue is caused by disagreement between developers on
| whether the old key mapping in 2.4 kernels was right or not, and if it
| is, then who should fix it if anyone. It is nice to know though that I
| can get my apostrophe back, it has been a tad bit annoying to type
| english without them.

Well, the -mm4/2.6.2-rc2 patch (finally) works on everything I've tested
on (x86 and sparc). Probably best to try it yourself and send fan mail
to our good friends at SuSE if it's still broken...

ftp://ftp.kernel.org/pub/linux/kernel/people/akpm/patches/2.6/2.6.1/2.6.1-mm4/broken-out/keyboard-scancode-fixes.patch

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread Richard Monk

Hop down to radio shack or your favorite electronics store.  They have a device used 
to determine the amount of electricity a device uses.  If I remember, they're about 
20$.

Plug it in between the computer and the wall (maybe plug in the monitor and PC to a 
cheap power strip, so you can do both at once).

It'll tell you how many watt/hours your system uses.

I love this thing, it's great when you are trying to figure out why your power bill is 
so high.

-Rich
On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:39:10 -0800 (PST)
"Eric Paynter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Jakub Krajcovic said:
> > FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get
> > an estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> 
> The maximum wattage for the computer is printed on the power supply.
> The monitor should have its power requirements printed on the back
> near where the power cord goes in. I wouldn't go below those numbers
> combined.
> 
> -Eric
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[gentoo-user] OT: Keyboard layouts (was: Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development)

2004-01-26 Thread Tommi Pirinen

Ciaran McCreesh wrote:

If you think 2.6.x kernels are stable, try using an unpatched 2.6.1
kernel with a GB or Japanese (or possibly German) keyboard. 
 

Actually, almost any non-english keyboard is affected somehow.

Such as non-US keyboards being totally broken, you mean? :) (If anyone
cares, this is fixed in 2.6.2-rc2.)
Fixed, really? Did they restore the old "broken" key mapping then, or is 
there some temporary patch in place? Because as far as I remember the 
whole issue is caused by disagreement between developers on whether the 
old key mapping in 2.4 kernels was right or not, and if it is, then who 
should fix it if anyone. It is nice to know though that I can get my 
apostrophe back, it has been a tad bit annoying to type english without 
them.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Jakub Krajcovic said:
> FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get
> an estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:

The maximum wattage for the computer is printed on the power supply.
The monitor should have its power requirements printed on the back
near where the power cord goes in. I wouldn't go below those numbers
combined.

-Eric

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Re: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 11:28:24 -0800 (PST) "Eric Paynter"
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| I'm not sure if this is a protocol limitation or if the client or
| server is letting me down, but my FTP transfer is failing. The size
| of the file that ends up on the disk is 2147483647 bytes which is
| exactly (2^31 - 1) or 2GB - 1 byte.

Can you reproduce this using wget? That'll at least tell you whether the
client or the server is to blame.

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RE: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

2004-01-26 Thread Brenden Walker

What filesystem is in place where the files are being stored?

It's certainly not a limitation of the FTP protocol, as I've transferred
files > 6gig via FTP with no problems.

> -Original Message-
> From: Eric Paynter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:28 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit
> 
> 
> I'm not sure if this is a protocol limitation or if the 
> client or server is letting me down, but my FTP transfer is 
> failing. The size of the file that ends up on the disk is 
> 2147483647 bytes which is exactly (2^31 - 1) or 2GB - 1 byte.
> 
> I'm using:
> 
> client: net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r2
> server: net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.9_rc2
> 
> The session:
> 
> ftp> recv backup.tar.gz
> local: backup.tar.gz remote: backup.tar.gz
> 200 PORT command successful
> 150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for backup.tar.gz 
> (2876603552 bytes)
> backup.tar.gz: short write
> 450 Transfer aborted. Link to file server lost.
> 2147482760 bytes received in 224 secs (9.4e+03 Kbytes/sec)
> 
> Any fix? Or workaround by splitting the file? It would be 
> nice to not have to... :[
> 
> Thx,
> 
> -Eric
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

2004-01-26 Thread Brenden Walker

Buy an inverter that will handle your power supply at 100% at least.  So if
you have a 350 watt power supply in the computer, a 350watt inverter is
okay.. 

It's probably better to have enough to handle the worst case, than not...

> -Original Message-
> From: Jakub Krajcovic [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: Monday, January 26, 2004 2:30 PM
> To: Gentoo Users
> Subject: [gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?
> 
> 
> Hi guys,
> 
> FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to 
> get an estimate of how much power (in Watts) would this consume:
> 
> motherboard:  QDI Legend I
> processor:Celeron 333 MHz
> graphics: STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
> sound:SB Live! player (pci)
> HDD:  probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet 
> and the   old one got fried by a sudden power surge)
> optional: DVD ROM (probably one of the new toshibas)
> 
> I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, 
> I confess) googling, and havent found a satisfactory answer.. 
> I'm asking, because I decided to put this into my car and I 
> need to know what type of inverter I should buy. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Openssh, public key and passwords.

2004-01-26 Thread Brian Downey

>
> Hi all!
>
> How I can disable password authentication to single user (with ssh)?
> User needs password to local login, but I want to deny ssh -logins with
> password.
>
> I cannot find good information about this problem from net or
> openssh-documentation.
>
>
> Thanks.
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Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think that the answer is "no, there
isn't".

At the server, you can globally allow or deny password and key
authentication, but it's up to the user's ssh client to pick from which
authorization types are allowed.

If there's a way to set up ~/.ssh/config on the user's machine and set
PasswordAuthentication to 'No', then you might be able to get somewhere.

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[gentoo-user] OT: HOw much power does a computer consume?

Hi guys,

FIrst of all I apologize of an OT thread, but i would like to get an estimate of how 
much power (in Watts) would this consume:

motherboard:QDI Legend I
processor:  Celeron 333 MHz
graphics:   STB Velocity 4400 (Riva TNT chipset), 16MB (agp)
sound:  SB Live! player (pci)
HDD:probably WD, at max 20 GB (havent bought it yet and the
 old one got fried by a sudden power surge)
optional:   DVD ROM (probably one of the new toshibas)

I've searched all my manuals, and did some (not much though, I confess) googling, and 
havent found a satisfactory answer..
I'm asking, because I decided to put this into my car and I need to know what type of 
inverter I should buy. 




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[gentoo-user] FTP Fails at 2GB Limit

I'm not sure if this is a protocol limitation or if the client or
server is letting me down, but my FTP transfer is failing. The size
of the file that ends up on the disk is 2147483647 bytes which is
exactly (2^31 - 1) or 2GB - 1 byte.

I'm using:

client: net-ftp/ftp-0.17-r2
server: net-ftp/proftpd-1.2.9_rc2

The session:

ftp> recv backup.tar.gz
local: backup.tar.gz remote: backup.tar.gz
200 PORT command successful
150 Opening BINARY mode data connection for backup.tar.gz
(2876603552 bytes)
backup.tar.gz: short write
450 Transfer aborted. Link to file server lost.
2147482760 bytes received in 224 secs (9.4e+03 Kbytes/sec)

Any fix? Or workaround by splitting the file? It would be nice to
not have to... :[

Thx,

-Eric

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[gentoo-user] Openssh, public key and passwords.

2004-01-26 Thread Olli


Hi all!

How I can disable password authentication to single user (with ssh)?
User needs password to local login, but I want to deny ssh -logins with
password.

I cannot find good information about this problem from net or
openssh-documentation.


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Re: [gentoo-user] `su -`taking ~15 seconds after password?

2004-01-26 Thread Greg Bolshaw

On Sun, 2004-01-25 at 04:42, Mike Arrison wrote:
> Run 'top' in one console while su'ing in another.  See if anything major
> is taking cycles.

Nothing at all. It just seemed to idle - no change whatsoever to CPU or
memory usage.

I've now fixed this by re-emerging sys-libs/pam. Not sure what caused
it.

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Re: [gentoo-user] acpi

2004-01-26 Thread Christian Hergl

Hi Jesus,

I can at least confirm that the acpi in the 2.6.1 gentoo-dev-sources 
behaves a bit strangely. I don't get any battery stats ind /proc nor can 
I use any utilities in KDE.

However, I found the acpi in 2.6.0 working without problem on this Dell 
Latitude 500m. Well, at least with the cpu frequency scaling and battery 
stats.
I didn't got any usefull standby to work, which is a shame and the 
reason why I mostly run WinXP on his laptop in the every day use, 
enjoying Gentoo only at long work shifts.

As a side note, during typical work (read: surfing, for example), the 
laptop consumes approx 14 W with WinXP, the same with linux goes up to 
around 19 W. Apparently the acpi driver system is on a high level in the 
MS world, way to go... Of course, there's potential, I'm no acpi guru.

Regards,
Christian
Jesus Mendez Roman wrote:
Hi all,

My problem is because the acpi system don't work in the new kernel
2.6.1, I am using the gento-dev-sources with the acpi system compiled in
the kernel. When I was using the kernel 2.4.22 there was no problem and
I could see the battery applet working. My computer is a Dell precision
M60. Plese help.
Thanks
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[gentoo-user] webalizer errors

2004-01-26 Thread Greg Donald


I was trying to emerge webalizer when it stopped with some errors:

> emerge webalizer
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 1) app-admin/webalizer-2.01.10-r4 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) webalizer-2.01-10-src.tar.bz2
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking webalizer-2.01-10-src.tar.bz2 to
>>> /var/tmp/portage/webalizer-2.01.10-r4/work
>>> Source unpacked.
creating cache ./config.cache
checking for gcc... gcc
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=k6 -O3 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer ) works... yes
checking whether the C compiler (gcc -march=k6 -O3 -pipe
-fomit-frame-pointer ) is a cross-compiler... no
checking whether we are using GNU C... yes
checking whether gcc accepts -g... yes
checking whether ln -s works... yes
checking for a BSD compatible install... /bin/install -c
checking how to run the C preprocessor... gcc -E
checking whether char is unsigned... no
checking for dbopen... no
checking for library containing dbopen... -ldb1
checking for db.h... yes
checking for errno.h... yes
checking for socket... yes
checking for sys/socket.h... yes
checking for main in -lnsl... yes
checking for main in -l44bsd... no
checking for main in -lm... yes
checking for main in -lz... yes
checking for gzrewind in -lz... yes
checking for main in -lpng... yes
checking for gdImagePng in -lgd... yes
checking for gd.h... /usr/include
checking for getopt.h... yes
checking for math.h... yes
checking default config dir... /etc
checking for language file... yes - english
updating cache ./config.cache
creating ./config.status
creating Makefile
linking ./lang/webalizer_lang.english to webalizer_lang.h
gcc -I/usr/include/db1/ -march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-DETCDIR=\"/etc\"  -DHAVE_DB_H=1 -DHAVE_ERRNO_H=1 -DHAVE_SOCKET=1
-DHAVE_SYS_SOCKET_H=1 -DHAVE_GETOPT_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1  -DUSE_DNS  -c
webalizer.c
gcc -I/usr/include/db1/ -march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-DETCDIR=\"/etc\"  -DHAVE_DB_H=1 -DHAVE_ERRNO_H=1 -DHAVE_SOCKET=1
-DHAVE_SYS_SOCKET_H=1 -DHAVE_GETOPT_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1  -DUSE_DNS  -c
hashtab.c
gcc -I/usr/include/db1/ -march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-DETCDIR=\"/etc\"  -DHAVE_DB_H=1 -DHAVE_ERRNO_H=1 -DHAVE_SOCKET=1
-DHAVE_SYS_SOCKET_H=1 -DHAVE_GETOPT_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1  -DUSE_DNS  -c
linklist.c
gcc -I/usr/include/db1/ -march=k6 -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointer
-DETCDIR=\"/etc\"  -DHAVE_DB_H=1 -DHAVE_ERRNO_H=1 -DHAVE_SOCKET=1
-DHAVE_SYS_SOCKET_H=1 -DHAVE_GETOPT_H=1 -DHAVE_MATH_H=1  -DUSE_DNS  -c
preserve.c
{standard input}: Assembler messages:
{standard input}:64: Error: value of ff7b too large for
field of 1 bytes at 00d4
make: *** [preserve.o] Error 1

!!! ERROR: app-admin/webalizer-2.01.10-r4 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 31, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)


Anyone know a fix?


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[gentoo-user] acpi

2004-01-26 Thread Jesus Mendez Roman

Hi all,

My problem is because the acpi system don't work in the new kernel
2.6.1, I am using the gento-dev-sources with the acpi system compiled in
the kernel. When I was using the kernel 2.4.22 there was no problem and
I could see the battery applet working. My computer is a Dell precision
M60. Plese help.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Radeon 9600 XT not supported in Gentoo?

2004-01-26 Thread Dennis Freise

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:49:43 +0100
"Jernej Zidar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Today I received a new Radeon 9600 XT graphic card. Before I had a GF4 MX
> 440. The framebuffer worked flawlessly (1024*768*32), after the change the
> framebuffer doesn't work anymore.
> 
> I use lilo with the string vga=792. I tried with vga=0x318 + append="
> video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr". but all I got was an empty (blank) screen, the
> system was booting I was able to login and reboot the system.
> 
> I tried to enable the ATI specific options but the problem persisted.
> 
> the vga=normal option works. I use 2.4.22 kernel with some ck patches.

I've got an ATi Radeon 9800 Pro and I was only able to get fb working with 2.6.x
kernels, no luck with 2.4.x. And even with 2.6 bootsplash seriously crashes
first the display, then the whole system. But I must admin that I did not try
too hard to fix that, I've now got a fb with 1280x1024x32 @ 60 Hz, no
bootsplash, and that's all I need :) I would recommend you to give 2.6 a try.

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

2004-01-26 Thread Ted Ozolins

Jakub Krajcovic wrote:

Well, i personally agree to what Collins said in the first mail. I really do think that the problems with the (supposedly) less-stable 2.6 kernels less common.

And people, how did you come to the conclusion that mostly "kernel-knowedgeable" people use the 2.6 series?? I mean, i don't think of myself as Mr Lamer, i can't hack the kernel in one afternoon either (that was probably a bit uptight, but i hope you get the picture).

I think that the main reason why to use the 2.6 kernel is the performance increase especially in X, and the overall speed and i daresay stability. And unless someone really plans to do weird shit with the kernel, i doubt he will come across some significant problems...

I'm begining to believe that the kernel developers jumped the 2.4.x ship
a bit too soon to get on with 2.6.x. I've experience all sorts of small
pita problems as I've migrated up the 2.4.x tree. Once I've caught up
on some of my work here, (dang! I knew I should have drained that swamp,
way too many critters to deal with) I'll be giving 2.6.x a shot on my
main system. I have found that a lot of the "kernel savey" users aren't
always the first to move up to a new kernel. The new kids on the block
seem to lead perhaps because they feel that they must have the latest
and greatest new toy. Having said that, "less problems reported because
the user base have a greater knowledge in dealing with kernel related
problems" falls way short of the truth. If I recall correctly, the
first 2.4.x series started out with one patch after another. I ran with
the 2.2.x on my firewall (upgraded and patched manytimes) untill this
past weekend. That will be brought up to the 2.6.x kernel this coming
weekend. My lab_rat has been running 2.6.1-rc1 without as much as a
burp. I will be installing a new ATI card on it this week and see how
that goes, if well then I'll be updating all the machines here to
2.6.1-rc1 or what ever is available on gentoo. I do not consider myself
a linux expert nor am I a kernel(or anything else) hacker, my
observations are merely from an end user perspective.

JMHO

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Re: [gentoo-user] possible to mount home directory on login?

2004-01-26 Thread Linus harling

Fred Labrosse wrote:

Linus harling writes:
> Ian Truelsen wrote:
> 
> >Is it possible, assuming that each user's home directory is on a
> >separate partition, to have the user's home directory mount only when
> >they login and then umount on logout?
> >  
> >
> 
> autofs (http://freshmeat.net/projects/autofs/?topic_id=142) does exactly 
> that...
> 

But it does not work with smb (at least, it doesn't with the version I
tried (old RH7.x machine).

Haven't tried, but i think it should, as far as I know it's just mount 
automated...
Doesn't smb require user input? Password that is? That might cause some 
Problems... But then again why use smb? Especially now that MS has 
released SFU 3.5 as a free (as in beer) download, you would be much 
better off using NFS.

Hm say that you want to use SMB/CIFS anyway, wouldn't winbindd take care 
of the password issue? I've never used it, so I'm not too familiar with 
its capabilities...

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Re: [gentoo-user] A stupid mistake

2004-01-26 Thread Alex Schuster

Paul writes:

> An update.
> I unpacked a stage 3 tar and copied python and portage into my system.  I
> was able to do a sync but when I do a emerge -u world I get the following
> error.
[...]

> LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1-2412.log"

> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/group
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/group
> -
> --- The permissions on the passwd and group files seem to be the same
> as before I damaged my system.

> Has anybody any ideas how to solve this???

I just had a similar problem. I was able to emerge again by disabling  
the sandbox feature (which makes portage run as the portage user, not  
root): "FEATURES=-sandbox emerge python-fchksum"
But beware, this removes a security feature, I would backup the passwd  
and group files first.

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[gentoo-user] Radeon 9600 XT not supported in Gentoo?

2004-01-26 Thread Jernej Zidar

Today I received a new Radeon 9600 XT graphic card. Before I had a GF4 MX
440. The framebuffer worked flawlessly (1024*768*32), after the change the
framebuffer doesn't work anymore.

I use lilo with the string vga=792. I tried with vga=0x318 + append="
video=vesa:ywrap,mtrr". but all I got was an empty (blank) screen, the
system was booting I was able to login and reboot the system.

I tried to enable the ATI specific options but the problem persisted.

the vga=normal option works. I use 2.4.22 kernel with some ck patches.

Could someone please advsie me as what to do/try?

thanks guys,
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Re: [gentoo-user] staring multiply gnome-terminals .....

2004-01-26 Thread Matt Wilson

On Mon, 2004-01-26 at 13:34, raptor wrote:
> gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine1' && gnome-terminal --tab -e 'ssh machine1'
> 
> this doesnt work either !!:"(

I think you probably meant;

gnome-terminal -e 'ssh m1' & gnome-terminal --tab -e 'ssh m2'

> |hi,
> |
> |How can I start gnome-terminal with several commands which open in several tabs...
> |curently I can do :
> |
> |gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine'
> |
> |but this open just one window... I want to be able to say something like this :
> |
> |gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine' -e 'ssh machine2' -e 'ssh machine3'
> |
> |and only the first to open new window and the next goes into their own tab...
> |
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Re: [gentoo-user] Intermittent dxr3 DVD problem

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Hampton

Oops - sorry wrong list!!

Paul Hampton wrote:

Hi guys

I am having a problem sometimes when watching DVD's on my dxr3 with 
Freevo 1.4.1. I am using Xine. Basically what happens is sometimes 
(around 30% of the time) I press stop on the DVD and the freevo menu 
does not return. If I restart freevo it works fine again. The 
following appears in my logfile:

Exception in thread Thread-6:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/threading.py", line 414, in __bootstrap
   self.run()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/childapp.py", line 495, 
in run
   osd.restart()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/osd.py", line 251, in 
restart
   get_singleton().restartdisplay()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/util/misc.py", line 
488, in __call__
   return self.__method(self.__obj, *args, **kwargs)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/osd.py", line 544, in 
restartdisplay
   self.depth)
error: Couldn't open video part of dxr3.

Is it possible it is trying to start the display too quickly before 
Xine has freed it?

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 18:06:47 +0100 Jakub Krajcovic
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
| Well, i personally agree to what Collins said in the first mail. I
| really do think that the problems with the (supposedly) less-stable
| 2.6 kernels less common.

If you think 2.6.x kernels are stable, try using an unpatched 2.6.1
kernel with a GB or Japanese (or possibly German) keyboard. 
 
| And people, how did you come to the conclusion that mostly
| "kernel-knowedgeable" people use the 2.6 series?? I mean, i don't
| think of myself as Mr Lamer, i can't hack the kernel in one afternoon
| either (that was probably a bit uptight, but i hope you get the
| picture).

Most people who haven't built a kernel before seem to follow the install
guide and pick a 2.4.x kernel. By "kernel knowledgeable", I'm just
meaning people who have done a few kernel builds before and can
manage the configuration and make sequence without needing extensive
documentation. I'd be surprised if people who had never done their own
kernel build were diving straight in with 2.6.x (and if they are, we
have a problem). A lot of the 2.4.x questions that are asked here are
related to user misconfiguration (hey, our docs aren't perfect yet...)
rather than things that are actually wrong with the kernel.

I'm ignoring the recent gentoo-sources screwups -- this isn't the right
mailing list for discussing *that* issue...

| I think that the main reason why to use the 2.6 kernel is the
| performance increase especially in X, and the overall speed and i
| daresay stability. And unless someone really plans to do weird shit
| with the kernel, i doubt he will come across some significant
| problems...

Such as non-US keyboards being totally broken, you mean? :) (If anyone
cares, this is fixed in 2.6.2-rc2.) Oh, and then there's that whole
nvidia issue, which we can't even *try* to fix because they won't give
us the source...

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[gentoo-user] Intermittent dxr3 DVD problem

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Hampton

Hi guys

I am having a problem sometimes when watching DVD's on my dxr3 with 
Freevo 1.4.1. I am using Xine. Basically what happens is sometimes 
(around 30% of the time) I press stop on the DVD and the freevo menu 
does not return. If I restart freevo it works fine again. The following 
appears in my logfile:

Exception in thread Thread-6:
Traceback (most recent call last):
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/threading.py", line 414, in __bootstrap
   self.run()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/childapp.py", line 495, 
in run
   osd.restart()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/osd.py", line 251, in 
restart
   get_singleton().restartdisplay()
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/util/misc.py", line 488, 
in __call__
   return self.__method(self.__obj, *args, **kwargs)
 File "/usr/lib/python2.2/site-packages/freevo/osd.py", line 544, in 
restartdisplay
   self.depth)
error: Couldn't open video part of dxr3.

Is it possible it is trying to start the display too quickly before Xine 
has freed it?

Cheers
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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

Well, i personally agree to what Collins said in the first mail. I really do think 
that the problems with the (supposedly) less-stable 2.6 kernels less common.

And people, how did you come to the conclusion that mostly "kernel-knowedgeable" 
people use the 2.6 series?? I mean, i don't think of myself as Mr Lamer, i can't hack 
the kernel in one afternoon either (that was probably a bit uptight, but i hope you 
get the picture).

I think that the main reason why to use the 2.6 kernel is the performance increase 
especially in X, and the overall speed and i daresay stability. And unless someone 
really plans to do weird shit with the kernel, i doubt he will come across some 
significant problems...

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 15:16:22 +
Ciaran McCreesh <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:19:38 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> | There are almost as many fixes being released on the long-time,
> | supposedly stable 2.4 release as on the supposedly less stable 2.6
> | release.
> 
> Uh, really, no.
> 
> | Also, traffic on gentoo indicates that people are
> | encountering lots of problems with 2.4.
> 
> Probably because most of the 2.6.x users have more experience in
> kernel-related things anyway...
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] A stupid mistake

(Stupid question): but have you done this as root?

could it be that you need to have the portage gropu on you system?

I really don't know, so these are just guesses. 

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 14:04:41 +
Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Mon 26 January 2004 00:18, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> > You can try this:
> > snip>
> > just unpack the stage 3 tarball somewhere, or if you use the midnight
> > commander, then just enter it, and copy the missing files from it into
> > their respective directories. And if you're not sure which files they are,
> > then just copy everything...
> >snip>
> > On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:59:36 +
> >
> > Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > On Sun 25 January 2004 16:01, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> > > > Paul Stear wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > Well I've done it now!!!  I was cleaning up my system and have
> > > > > removed python by mistake.  Now emerge will not work.
> 
> An update.
> I unpacked a stage 3 tar and copied python and portage into my system.  I was 
> able to do a sync but when I do a emerge -u world I get the following error.
> 
> bash-2.05b# emerge -uv python
> Calculating dependencies ...done!
> >>> emerge (1 of 3) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to /
> >>> md5 src_uri ;-) python-fchksum-1.6.1.tar.gz
> ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> >>> Unpacking source...
> >>> Unpacking python-fchksum-1.6.1.tar.gz 
> to /var/tmp/portage/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1/work
> ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/group
> >>> Source unpacked.
> --- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY 
> ---
> LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1-2412.log"
> 
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/group
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/passwd
> open_wr:   /etc/group
> 
> The permissions on the passwd and group files seem to be the same as before I 
> damaged my system.
> 
> Has anybody any ideas how to solve this???
> 
> thanks  Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging subversion!

On Sun, Jan 25, 2004 at 02:23:28AM +0200, raptor wrote:
> subversion stops on sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 ...
> HOW to solve this !? tia
> 
> #emerge subversion
> ...
> checking for javac... no
> checking for gcj... gcj -C
> checking if gcj -C works... yes
> checking for jar... no
> configure: error: no acceptable jar program found in $PATH
>  
> !!! ERROR: sys-libs/db-4.1.25_p1-r3 failed.
> !!! Function src_compile, Line 95, Exitcode 1
> !!! (no error message)

Try to install one of the available JDK's (looks like your system is missing java)
dev-java/blackdown-jdk  or  dev-java/sun-jdk  are AFAIK the most popular choices 
for linux.

You can verify java install by running:
$ java -version
java version "1.4.1"
Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build Blackdown-1.4.1-01)
Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM (build Blackdown-1.4.1-01, mixed mode)




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Re: [gentoo-user] intel fortran compiler problem

2004-01-26 Thread Dennis Allison

The diagnostics you are seeing suggest that you are not linking with 
all the needed libraries, probably libc.

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004, Valmor de Almeida wrote:

> When running ifc on a typical hello program I get
> 
> 12 Lines Compiled
> /opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90file.o)(.text+0x4746): In function 
> `FileOpen':
> : undefined reference to `errno'
> /opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90fioerr.o)(.text+0x6d9): In function 
> `f_fiomess.':
> : undefined reference to `errno'
> /opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90fioerr.o)(.text+0x76b): In function 
> `f_seterrno':
> : undefined reference to `errno'
> 
> the emerged ifc version is 
> 
> dev-lang/ifc-7.0.064-r1
> 
> Does anyone know whether this compiler works with gentoo?
> 
> Thanks for inputs.
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/rtc problem with vmware

2004-01-26 Thread Valmor de Almeida

Thanks. I've got /dev/rtc and the vmware message
went away. Still no luck in getting the virtual
windows XP machine installed. But that seems like
a question for vmware support.

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> On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:27:21 -0500
> Valmor de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > host high-resolution timer device is no currently
> > available (/dev/rtc).
> > 
> > The actual message is a longer but this is the 
> > essence of it. My system does not have this device. 
> > I am running devfsd but I am not very familiar with it.
> > Shouldn't it create /dev/rtc by default?
> 
> No. With devfsd it will be there once your kernel has rtc-support.
> 
> > The vmware web site says that 
> > 
> > * The real-time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel.
> > * VMware Workstation for Linux requires that the parallel port PC-style
> > hardware option (CONFIG_PARPORT_PC) be built and loaded as a kernel mod
> ule
> > (that is, it must be set to m when the kernel is compiled). 
> > 
> > I did the second configuration but I do not know exactly how to
> > do the first (real-time clock function).
> 
> Set "CONFIG_RTC=y" in your kernel-config.
> 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Mailmna python error

2004-01-26 Thread Yorkshire Dave

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 16:48:19 +0100
Denny Schierz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi,
> 
> since a few days, i have this errors:
> 
> Jan 26 16:50:06 s15144503 postfix/local[21130]: B4FBAF8:
> to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0,
> status=bounced (Command died with status 1:
> "/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output:
> Traceback (most recent call last):   File
> "/usr/local/mailman/scripts/post", line 31, in ? import paths  
> File"/usr/local/mailman/scripts/paths.py", line 55, in ? import
> japanese ImportError: Bad magic number in
> /usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/japanese/__init__.pyc )
> 

I had the same problem. I don't know if this is a good fix but here's
my fix. 

There are 4 paths.py files
mailman/scripts/paths.py
mailman/bin/paths.py 
mailman/cron/paths.py
mailman/tests/paths.py

in each file, locate the lines which say
import japanese
import korean
import korean.aliases
and comment them out. 

I don't know if this will break anything else, I don't know python or
anything about japanese or korean codecs. It was a guess, but it works
fine here.


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[gentoo-user] intel fortran compiler problem

2004-01-26 Thread Valmor de Almeida

When running ifc on a typical hello program I get

12 Lines Compiled
/opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90file.o)(.text+0x4746): In function 
`FileOpen':
: undefined reference to `errno'
/opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90fioerr.o)(.text+0x6d9): In function 
`f_fiomess.':
: undefined reference to `errno'
/opt/intel/compiler70/ia32/lib/libIEPCF90.a(f90fioerr.o)(.text+0x76b): In function 
`f_seterrno':
: undefined reference to `errno'

the emerged ifc version is 

dev-lang/ifc-7.0.064-r1

Does anyone know whether this compiler works with gentoo?

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[gentoo-user] Mailmna python error

2004-01-26 Thread Denny Schierz

hi,

since a few days, i have this errors:

Jan 26 16:50:06 s15144503 postfix/local[21130]: B4FBAF8:
to=<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, relay=local, delay=0,
status=bounced (Command died with status 1:
"/usr/local/mailman/mail/mailman post mailman". Command output:
Traceback (most recent call last):   File
"/usr/local/mailman/scripts/post", line 31, in ? import paths   File
"/usr/local/mailman/scripts/paths.py", line 55, in ? import japanese
ImportError: Bad magic number in
/usr/local/mailman/pythonlib/japanese/__init__.pyc )


did anybody know, what does that mean?

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 07:19:38 -0700 Collins Richey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
| There are almost as many fixes being released on the long-time,
| supposedly stable 2.4 release as on the supposedly less stable 2.6
| release.

Uh, really, no.

| Also, traffic on gentoo indicates that people are
| encountering lots of problems with 2.4.

Probably because most of the 2.6.x users have more experience in
kernel-related things anyway...

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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/rtc problem with vmware

2004-01-26 Thread brettholcomb

Did you build rtc into the kernel?

> 
> From: Valmor de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: 2004/01/26 Mon PM 02:27:21 GMT
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [gentoo-user] /dev/rtc problem with vmware
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Re: [gentoo-user] /dev/rtc problem with vmware

2004-01-26 Thread Dennis Freise

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 09:27:21 -0500
Valmor de Almeida <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> host high-resolution timer device is no currently
> available (/dev/rtc).
> 
> The actual message is a longer but this is the 
> essence of it. My system does not have this device. 
> I am running devfsd but I am not very familiar with it.
> Shouldn't it create /dev/rtc by default?

No. With devfsd it will be there once your kernel has rtc-support.

> The vmware web site says that 
> 
> * The real-time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel.
> * VMware Workstation for Linux requires that the parallel port PC-style
> hardware option (CONFIG_PARPORT_PC) be built and loaded as a kernel module
> (that is, it must be set to m when the kernel is compiled). 
> 
> I did the second configuration but I do not know exactly how to
> do the first (real-time clock function).

Set "CONFIG_RTC=y" in your kernel-config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

2004-01-26 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]

How did you make that conclusion? Unless you did a proper survey or 
something you'll never really know. 2.4 users outnumber 2.6 users by 
plenty, it is only natural that you hear more complains about 2.4 than 
about 2.6 and since 2.6 is just out recently it's problems are less 
known. Early adopters are also usually the ones with more experience,  
if a problem is found they often consult the developer mailing 
list/forum or file a bug report instead of asking here. What do you 
think about my reasoning?

Martin

Collins Richey wrote:

There are almost as many fixes being released on the long-time, supposedly stable 2.4 release as on the supposedly less stable 2.6 release.  Also, traffic on gentoo indicates that people are encountering lots of problems with 2.4.

Meanwhile, my 2.6 desktop just keeps clicking along.

I did notice one minor XFS fix in the latest 2.6 pre-release offering.  Unless they come up with something exciting, I'll stay where I am for a while.

 



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Re: [gentoo-user] Adding a Keyboard and etc/X11/symbols/inet

Steve Barnhart wrote:
Hello,

 

I have a Microsoft Wireless Optical keyboard and edited the 
/etx/X11/symbols/inet with the appropriate key symbols so I could use 
the buttons. I am currently using the Microsoft Nat/Desktop Pro keyboard 
model and pc-104 layout. I am wondering how do I enable my new data I 
entered into inet? Do I need to make it a keyboard option in kcontrol…if 
so, how? Thanks in advance for all of your help.



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Re: [gentoo-user] post-install slowness

Greg Donald wrote:

- snip -

Run these commands and check the output:

hdparm /dev/hda
hdparm -tT /dev/hda
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Re: [gentoo-user] i686 Live CD does not run i686 binaries?

2004-01-26 Thread Bob White

Ronald,

> Yesterday I tried out the i686 LiveCD for my laptop with a K6 processor.
>
> First of all, I am a bit confused on whether or not the K6 will run i686 correctly.
Some sources on the internet say yes, others no.
> However, the LiveCD boots fine, so I thought all was OK.

Like you, I'm currently in the process of installing Gentoo on a K6-2/500 box.  You
definitely want CHOST set for an i586 in make.conf.  I found, with the help of some 
kind
folks on this list, that you probably ought to use -mcpu=k6 instead of -march=k6.  I
kept getting all kinds of compilation errors using -march, fwiw.

I actually have two lines in make.conf -- one of them commented out.  There are some
packages that don't compile with -mcpu=k6.  The second line has the same options, but
sets -mcpu=i586.  When the compilation fails, I comment out the k6 line, and enable the
i586 line.  Once I recompile the package that failed, I change it back.  It seems to
work for me.

I believe the options (I'm at work currently) are set to: -O3 -mcpu=k6-2
-fomit-frame-pointers -pipe.

I started with a stage 2 install, and have completed the kernel and X installations, 
and
am currently installing kde.  Sometime in the next millenium, I may be through

>
> However after installing stage3 and the prebuild backages, I did
>
> $ chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash
>
> and I got an "Illegal instruction".
> So, apparently my K6 processor has problems with i686 anyway.

I was having problems getting the kernel options set.  In the process of getting them
correct, I used the configuration from the live cd (/proc/config).  The processor
setting was for an i386, presumably to ensure compatibility across the board.

HTH,

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[gentoo-user] /dev/rtc problem with vmware

2004-01-26 Thread Valmor de Almeida

Hello list,

When installing a Windows XP guest machine in
vmware, I get the warning

host high-resolution timer device is no currently
available (/dev/rtc).

The actual message is a longer but this is the 
essence of it. My system does not have this device. 
I am running devfsd but I am not very familiar with it.
Shouldn't it create /dev/rtc by default?

The vmware web site says that 

* The real-time clock function must be compiled into your Linux kernel.
* VMware Workstation for Linux requires that the parallel port PC-style hardware 
option (CONFIG_PARPORT_PC) be built and loaded as a kernel module (that is, it must be 
set to m when the kernel is compiled). 

I did the second configuration but I do not know exactly how to
do the first (real-time clock function).

Any help appreciated.

Thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Checking a CD

Mark Knecht wrote:
Hi,
   I ordered a loop library that arrived on a CDR type disk. I'm having
a bit of trouble with the disk. How can I test the CD get a definitive
answer about exactly what's wrong? 

run this test on minimum 5 different CD drives:

dd if=/dev/cdrom of=/dev/null bs=2048

If it fails on all of them, CD is sure wrong.

noro

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[gentoo-user] The irony of kernel development

There are almost as many fixes being released on the long-time, supposedly stable 2.4 
release as on the supposedly less stable 2.6 release.  Also, traffic on gentoo 
indicates that people are encountering lots of problems with 2.4.

Meanwhile, my 2.6 desktop just keeps clicking along.

I did notice one minor XFS fix in the latest 2.6 pre-release offering.  Unless they 
come up with something exciting, I'll stay where I am for a while.

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Re: [gentoo-user] A stupid mistake

2004-01-26 Thread Paul Stear

On Mon 26 January 2004 00:18, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> You can try this:
> snip>
> just unpack the stage 3 tarball somewhere, or if you use the midnight
> commander, then just enter it, and copy the missing files from it into
> their respective directories. And if you're not sure which files they are,
> then just copy everything...
>snip>
> On Sun, 25 Jan 2004 18:59:36 +
>
> Paul Stear <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > On Sun 25 January 2004 16:01, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
> > > Paul Stear wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > Well I've done it now!!!  I was cleaning up my system and have
> > > > removed python by mistake.  Now emerge will not work.

An update.
I unpacked a stage 3 tar and copied python and portage into my system.  I was 
able to do a sync but when I do a emerge -u world I get the following error.

bash-2.05b# emerge -uv python
Calculating dependencies ...done!
>>> emerge (1 of 3) dev-python/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1 to /
>>> md5 src_uri ;-) python-fchksum-1.6.1.tar.gz
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
>>> Unpacking source...
>>> Unpacking python-fchksum-1.6.1.tar.gz 
to /var/tmp/portage/python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1/work
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/passwd
ACCESS DENIED  open_wr:   /etc/group
>>> Source unpacked.
--- ACCESS VIOLATION SUMMARY 
---
LOG FILE = "/tmp/sandbox-python-fchksum-1.6.1-r1-2412.log"

open_wr:   /etc/passwd
open_wr:   /etc/passwd
open_wr:   /etc/group
open_wr:   /etc/passwd
open_wr:   /etc/passwd
open_wr:   /etc/passwd
open_wr:   /etc/group

The permissions on the passwd and group files seem to be the same as before I 
damaged my system.

Has anybody any ideas how to solve this???

thanks  Paul
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Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI support in kernel?

2004-01-26 Thread Jan Drugowitsch

On Monday 26 January 2004 11:31, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
> dude, don't do that - if you configure your kernel, and then type make
> mrprper, then it will DELETE your configuration file (.config) and then
> proceed on compiling without a configuration - and who knows what might
> happed.

cp .config ~ && make mrproper && cp ~/.config .

Still, thanks for the comment, there might be people out there that don't know 
it.

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[gentoo-user] MozillaFirebird/Thunderbird

2004-01-26 Thread Cristiano Paris

Hi everyone,

I'm currently testing Mozilla Firebird and Mozilla Thunderbird. I use
those software under my Windows PCs and they're great, so I decided to
give'em a try under Linux.

Anyway I'm experiencing some trouble: MozillaFirebird opens correctly
PDFs files embedding them in the Web Page. Anyway, the Acroread Plugin
seems to suck all of my CPU power. It gets 99% of my CPU time. Under
Mozilla Seamonkey it works just fine.

Thanks for the help.

Cristiano


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Re: [gentoo-user] i686 Live CD does not run i686 binaries?

2004-01-26 Thread Andrew Gaffney

Ronald Pijnacker wrote:
Hi!

Yesterday I tried out the i686 LiveCD for my laptop with a K6 processor.

First of all, I am a bit confused on whether or not the K6 will run i686
correctly. Some sources on the internet say yes, others no. 
However, the LiveCD boots fine, so I thought all was OK.

However after installing stage3 and the prebuild backages, I did

$ chroot /mnt/gentoo /bin/bash

and I got an "Illegal instruction".
So, apparently my K6 processor has problems with i686 anyway.
This surprised me a bit, since I expected the LiveCD to also run i686
compiled binaries. Ergo: if it boots, it will also run after installing
from the harddrive. No such luck, though.
This is a common problem with the AMD K6 processors. People see the '6' and assume that 
its compatible with i686 (I've done it myself). The K6 chips are like i686's minus a few 
important instructions. Download a i586 LiveCD (does such a thing exist?) or even a basic 
x86 LiveCD. This should fix your problem.

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Re: [gentoo-user] staring multiply gnome-terminals .....

2004-01-26 Thread raptor

gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine1' && gnome-terminal --tab -e 'ssh machine1'

this doesnt work either !!:"(

|hi,
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|How can I start gnome-terminal with several commands which open in several tabs...
|curently I can do :
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|gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine'
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|but this open just one window... I want to be able to say something like this :
|
|gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine' -e 'ssh machine2' -e 'ssh machine3'
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|and only the first to open new window and the next goes into their own tab...
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|tia
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[gentoo-user] staring multiply gnome-terminals .....

2004-01-26 Thread raptor

hi,

How can I start gnome-terminal with several commands which open in several tabs...
curently I can do :

gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine'

but this open just one window... I want to be able to say something like this :

gnome-terminal -e 'ssh machine' -e 'ssh machine2' -e 'ssh machine3'

and only the first to open new window and the next goes into their own tab...

tia

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Re: [gentoo-user] i686 Live CD does not run i686 binaries?

2004-01-26 Thread Dennis Freise

On Mon, 26 Jan 2004 13:04:17 +0100
Ronald Pijnacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > I bet the LiveCD is compiled with "-mcpu=i686" and your system is compiled
> > with"-march=i686" - am I right ? :-)
> 
> I do not know. I am just running the LiveCD and using the prebuild
> packages on that CD. Aparently they are compiled with different
> settings. This is what surprises me.

I think that's because you then can use the i686-cd for rescue-purposes on any
ix86, while the stage-tarballs are only for i686. That would make sense to me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] i686 Live CD does not run i686 binaries?

2004-01-26 Thread Ronald Pijnacker

> Ronald Pijnacker <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > This surprised me a bit, since I expected the LiveCD to also run i686
> > compiled binaries. Ergo: if it boots, it will also run after installing
> > from the harddrive. No such luck, though.
> > 
> > Any comments?
> 
> I bet the LiveCD is compiled with "-mcpu=i686" and your system is compiled with
> "-march=i686" - am I right ? :-)

I do not know. I am just running the LiveCD and using the prebuild
packages on that CD. Aparently they are compiled with different
settings. This is what surprises me.

  Ronald.

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Re: [gentoo-user] iptables error

2004-01-26 Thread Mike Williams

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On Monday 26 January 2004 11:28, Catalin Constantin wrote:
> i get the following error when trying to add an iptables rule.
>
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved
> symbol nf_unregister_sockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: unresolved
> symbol nf_register_sockopt
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o failed
> /lib/modules/2.4.22/kernel/net/ipv4/netfilter/ip_tables.o: insmod ip_tables
> failed iptables v1.2.8: can't initialize iptables table `filter': iptables
> who? (do you need to insmod?) Perhaps iptables or your kernel needs to be
> upgraded.
>
> gentoo root # epm -qf /usr/src/linux-2.4.22/
> vanilla-sources-2.4.22
>
> any hints ?

Something b0rked in your kernel compile.
I'd backup your .config, make mrproper. copy back the .config and re-'make dep 
&& make bzImage && make modules modules_install', copy new kernel and reboot.

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