Re: [gentoo-user] qmail-scanner and spamassassin config

2004-02-01 Thread LJN
On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 23:01, Mike Williams wrote:
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 On Saturday 31 January 2004 21:03, LJN wrote:
  ok am i wrong or shouldn't this config add the extra header tags to all
  mail(not just spam)? if so, do you have any idea why it's not working?
 
 Yes, no.
 qmail-scanner only asks for the score from spamd, so heading settings in 
 spamassassin config don't have any effect.
 I now use qpsmtpd which with fairly simple modification allows you to add the 
 headers you want.
 
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Ok,is the current spamassassin config ok for that?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread Troy Dack
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 13:36, Tommi Pirinen wrote:
 Hemmann, Volker Armin wrote: 
  Hi,
  
  On Saturday 31 January 2004 20:30, Jerry McBride wrote:

   2-HIDE THE GARBAGE... Do we really need to have ALL the compiler and emerge
   updated logged to the screen? See PROGRESS BARS above.
   
  Well, I had some severe problems the last days with X, glibc and others (nptl 
  related, big downgrade and recompile time, wohooo plus a mulish X emerge, 
  dying again and again). And this 'garbage' becomes realy useful, if you want 
  to circumvent (or simply find!) the error that is holding you back for hours.

 You're just underlining the point here. The garbage only becomes
 useful in exceptional situation thus it need not be shown in typical
 compilations but might be available elsewhere whenever needed. The
 reasoning behind showing much carbage on every compilation is that
 only devs and experts would ever compile their own products.

So how did you install Gentoo?

  It is obvious that such a mechanism has not been developed with
 gentoo-like solution in mind.

The compilation system was around long before Gentoo.

Since Gentoo is primarily a from source distribution then seeing how a
package is built is part of the process.

If you don't like it, pick another distro, use the GRP packages and
don't compile anything yourself or write some code and submit patches.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Good Games Suggestions

2004-02-01 Thread Phil Barnett
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On Saturday 31 January 2004 4:08 pm, Wayne Oliver wrote:

 Can anybody suggest anything from portage ???

 I am not a shoot 'em up fan...

Pathological is pretty addictive.

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Re: [gentoo-user] New Gentoo user, odd kernel make error [1][2]

2004-02-01 Thread Dave
Peter Wu wrote:

On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 11:04:01AM +0100, Redeeman wrote:

 

i recommend a 2.6 kernel.
   

Or, 2.4.22-r5, which runs perfectly for weeks.

 

I will end up with 2.6 but I thought that it still had some stability 
issues ? I have changed my kernel to 2.4.22, vanilla-sources  compiled 
AOK  all seems to be fine.

Thanks for the tip

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Karl Huysmans




How well does XFS perform in this kernel? I have a server with dual 3ware cards (8 250 GB Maxtor P-ATA disks/RAID5 on the boards) striped with 2 partitions of 1.7 TB each. 

With 2.4.20-xfs got 135 MB/s write, over 190 MB/s read.

Tried one of the 2.5 series just once, and only got about half of these speeds on the same hardware. 

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 Hi people,
 
 for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all
 those that still haven't switched, have a look here:
 
 http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html

This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've already 
been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems.




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[gentoo-user] Problems emerging

2004-02-01 Thread Dave
Hello,

I've finally got my system up (PS thanks for the advice on the kernel). 
Having a basic system I wanted to install various ebuilds, some small 
fluxbox some not so small kde etc

On two occasions now compilation errors have occured causing the process 
to stop. One on gkrellm recursion error  one on kde networking 
segmentation fault

This isn't a trick question ... is this normal ... or do I have a 
configuration problem. On both occasions the machine was doing nothing 
but compile. If I re-attempt it usualy appears to succeed.

my /etc/make.conf contains

CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
CFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium3 -funroll-loops -pipe
I am using an antiquated
PIII 700Mhz 256MB 80GB Drive
(I remember when this was a cool spec ! ... now dream of 3GHz +)
Any advice gratefully appreciated ...

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread LJN
Ok I want to switch for sure!

Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905
NIC? Any problems at all?

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 06:23, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
 Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
  Hi people,
  
  for all those that are skeptical about the 2.6 kernels, and for all
  those that still haven't switched, have a look here:
  
  http://www.infoworld.com/infoworld/article/04/01/30/05FElinux_1.html
 
 This makes me want to upgrade to 2.6.x on my production server right now. I've 
 already 
 been running the dev kernels since around 2.5.67 without any problems.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread Eric La Londe
 how do you want to guess the time a package needs to compile? Like others
 that, a progress bar, that is hanging at 99% for ages is simple annoying.
 Additionally, I hate progress bars, if I could have real information
instead,
 Progressbars are useless eye-candy. No, they are worse. They are sucking
away
 a lot of CPU power and deliver no information at all, while hiding pretty
 good information.

I could not agree more! Anyone who has had to watch a progress bar during
a MS Windows install knows this instantly. (think device detection)

Thank you for succinctly stating my views, less typing for me. :)



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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread LJN
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:14, Eric La Londe wrote:
  how do you want to guess the time a package needs to compile? Like others
  that, a progress bar, that is hanging at 99% for ages is simple annoying.
  Additionally, I hate progress bars, if I could have real information
 instead,
  Progressbars are useless eye-candy. No, they are worse. They are sucking
 away
  a lot of CPU power and deliver no information at all, while hiding pretty
  good information.
 
 I could not agree more! Anyone who has had to watch a progress bar during
 a MS Windows install knows this instantly. (think device detection)
 
 Thank you for succinctly stating my views, less typing for me. :)
 
 
 
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they're slightly usefull for configuration stuff when we know how much
is to be done(and it's something that takes a long time) and then count
up every now and then when so and so much of the configuration have been
done, then again it could be done just with some numbers.

anyway, this is the only usefull thing i can see they'd do.


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Re: [gentoo-user] New Install, interesting errors...

2004-02-01 Thread Yorian
I have about the same, I also installed Gentoo, and when I reboot it, it 
says

Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 01:00

I don't think 01:00 is a timestamp, as someone said before, it doesn't 
match, and it never changes.

I would also like to know what this means and what you can do about it.

Yorian

Krikket wrote:

Okay, I've got another error that has me stumped, and I'm hoping to find
some guidance here as to where I should be looking to fix this bugger.
I've gone through the initial build process, starting with mke2fs and a
stage 1 build.
Everything seems to go pretty much flawlessly until I get to point where I
reboot my system for the first time.  Now I have the error:
  ext2-fs: ide0(3,65) couldn't mount because of unsupported features (4).
  kernel panic: ufs: unable to mount root fs on 03:41
I'm assuming 03:41 is the time stamp, since that matches.

The only ext2 filesystem is on /dev/hda1 (boot)  The only hd markers are
for (0,0) in grub.  (with the exception that I have root=/dev/hdb1 )
One thing that I noticed is that in the docs, grub.conf has a line:
  title=Gentoo Linux
but the grub.conf.sample file has
  title Gentoo Linux
I did try things with each configuration (one at a time...) but with no
effect.
So, does anyone have any thoughts as to what this error might mean, or
what's causing it?
Thanks in advance!

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RE: [gentoo-user] New Install, interesting errors...

2004-02-01 Thread Steve Boone
Do you have ext2 built into the kernel?  (File Systems - Second Extended
File System or something like that)?  Make sure it is in the kernel and not
a module. If it is not in the kernel, then your kernel will not recognize
the ext2 file system.  I have been burned on this a couple times with
reiserfs file systems...

Steve

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I have about the same, I also installed Gentoo, and when I reboot it, it
says

Kernel panic: VFS: Unable to mount root fs 01:00

I don't think 01:00 is a timestamp, as someone said before, it doesn't
match, and it never changes.

I would also like to know what this means and what you can do about it.

Yorian

Krikket wrote:

Okay, I've got another error that has me stumped, and I'm hoping to find
some guidance here as to where I should be looking to fix this bugger.

I've gone through the initial build process, starting with mke2fs and a
stage 1 build.

Everything seems to go pretty much flawlessly until I get to point where I
reboot my system for the first time.  Now I have the error:

   ext2-fs: ide0(3,65) couldn't mount because of unsupported features (4).
   kernel panic: ufs: unable to mount root fs on 03:41

I'm assuming 03:41 is the time stamp, since that matches.

The only ext2 filesystem is on /dev/hda1 (boot)  The only hd markers are
for (0,0) in grub.  (with the exception that I have root=/dev/hdb1 )

One thing that I noticed is that in the docs, grub.conf has a line:
   title=Gentoo Linux

but the grub.conf.sample file has
   title Gentoo Linux

I did try things with each configuration (one at a time...) but with no
effect.

So, does anyone have any thoughts as to what this error might mean, or
what's causing it?

Thanks in advance!

Krikket


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Re: [gentoo-user] Laptop 3D Graphics

2004-02-01 Thread Steven Gill
Thanks to everyone that replied. I can now go and buy a new laptop! :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] qmail-scanner and spamassassin config

2004-02-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 01 February 2004 08:10, LJN wrote:

  I now use qpsmtpd which with fairly simple modification allows you to add
  the headers you want.

 Ok,is the current spamassassin config ok for that?

Possibly.
The spamassassin plugin talks directly to spamd, by default sending it 
'REPORT_IFSPAM SPAMC/1.0' which will basically make it answer yes or no.
I changed it to send 'SYMBOLS SPAMC/1.0', then split the output up to give me:
X-Comodo-Spam-Status: No, hits=-4.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00

The subject is modified to what is specified in the plugin, NOT spamassassins 
config.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread Thomas Schneider
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Hemmann, Volker Armin schrieb:
 Hi,

 On Saturday 31 January 2004 20:30, Jerry McBride wrote:

  Is anyone takling suggestions for Gentoo improvements???
 
  3-STARTUP SCRIPTS...
  4-DEVFS is a horrible beast...
  Anyone willing to work/collaborate with me on implementing suggestion 3?

 I hope not. That would be like replacing every i686 and above out
there with
 an 8088.
 The 8088 is well documented, too, but an outdated beast nonetheless.

You are right, hopefully noone will. These were some of the hardest
reasons I switched over to Gentoo!

  Do we really need dependencies in the startup scripts???

 Hell, yeah! This alone is a killer-feature.
Can't live without them anymore!


 who got lost several time in SysV init madness, liked slackwares style
and
 loves gentoos startup scripts.

Me! I love the dependencies in startup scripts!

So far,

Tom
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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Peter Wu wrote:
Guy, tell me why unix users don't do that ? (working as root)
snip
Because most Unix users have good computer knowledge while most Windows
users do not know how computers work at all.
This is total demagogy !

AFAIK *nobody* is borning as linux guru and every user has
to pass beginners days.
I am not familiar with situation in other countries, but
in Slovakia M$hit becomes official state religion.
(Our government signed some stupid agreement with M$hit
Big Devil last days.)
Windblowz users are trained at schools and
nearly every employee is training its stuff
as well.
AFAIK Linux users are trained mostly themself.

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Bill Roberts
On 10:07 Sun 01 Feb , LJN wrote:
 Ok I want to switch for sure!
 
 Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905
 NIC? Any problems at all?
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:31:51 +0100
Norbert Kamenicky [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Peter Wu wrote:
 Guy, tell me why unix users don't do that ? (working as root) snip
 Because most Unix users have good computer knowledge while most Windows
 users do not know how computers work at all.
 
 This is total demagogy !
 
 AFAIK *nobody* is borning as linux guru and every user has
 to pass beginners days.
 
 I am not familiar with situation in other countries, but
 in Slovakia M$hit becomes official state religion.
 (Our government signed some stupid agreement with M$hit
 Big Devil last days.)
 
 Windblowz users are trained at schools and
 nearly every employee is training its stuff
 as well.
 
 AFAIK Linux users are trained mostly themself.

And *that's* precisely why linux users have better computer knowledge - most
windows users only know how their favorite application works and *refuse* to
look under the hood of the computer, unlike average linux user.

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[gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Matt Wilson
I've noticed that whenever I try compile things up that some headers
from the kernel, they fail unless I have linux-headers-2.4.* merged
(when merging something from portage they automatically try merge that
as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant

Any ideas? (If anyone understood any of that)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Software raid

2004-02-01 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Jimmy Rosen wrote:
You might get by without restarting from scratch, but that depends on what 
you actually want to do. Read Daniel Robbins linux software raid howto on 
ibm's developer site for linux. There are many good articles there.
The sw raid partitions should be marked by a special partition type for the 
kernel to pick them up automatically. You can retype them in cfdisk or 
fdisk, or just delete the partition and recreate new ones in the same 
start-end sectors, and tag that with the correct partition type

But read the article
If I'm not mistaking (which I might just be) it can be found somewehere 
near
http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/

Harebraman
Jimmy
On Saturday 31 January 2004 06.37, Ted Ozolins wrote:

Before I totally mess things up, in order to use software raid (raid 1)
do I have to select the partitions as a raid before the install? I have
two identical drives with 50 megs at the begining of each drive for
/boot . Do I have to start over with fdisk and redo the install? Do I
sound rather confused, that s because right now I am:) Any pointers info
rtfm welcome
http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-raid1/

and

http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/linux/library/l-raid2/

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
make the following symlink

# ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.1 /usr/src/linux

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:54:52 +
Matt Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've noticed that whenever I try compile things up that some headers
 from the kernel, they fail unless I have linux-headers-2.4.* merged
 (when merging something from portage they automatically try merge that
 as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
 for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
 considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
 linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant
 
 Any ideas? (If anyone understood any of that)
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Vanh Phom

 Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905
 NIC? Any problems at all?
 

FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450  and 3com 905c
without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Alec Berryman
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:54:52AM +, Matt Wilson wrote:
 as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
 for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
 considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
 linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant

Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't compile
cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around with the
ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.


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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Fred Labrosse
Peter Wu writes:
  
  Microsoft creates features that customers demand so that they can
  sell their products and make money. 
  

I did not follow the thread at all, but when I read that, I jump.  No,
Microsoft does not create features that customers demand.  They create
features and work very hard at  convincing their customers that they need
the features.

How many features of Word does a regular user use?  Never thought that
the singing and dancing dog (i'nit cute ;-) in the search application was
just a waste of time and resource.  And so on, and so on...

Just my 2p.

Fred

P.S.  This is getting REALLY OT, isn't it.


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[gentoo-user] devfs and zip (Was: Progress bars??)

2004-02-01 Thread Fred Labrosse
gabriel writes:
  
  devfs is awesome.  it found my compactflash cardreader with no problems 
  whatsoever.  i can't possibly condone a switch.
  

Maybe, but it only finds my zip drive if I have a disk in it when I boot.
Or am I missing something?

Fred


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[gentoo-user] Private rsync mirror

2004-02-01 Thread Gard Spreemann
Hi.

I want to run my own private rsync mirror, and have followed a guide I found 
on the forum for this. I just want to make sure of one thing: The 
rsync-gentoo-portage.sh script should be set to sync with 
rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage right? I don't want to be doing 
anything I'm not supposed to, like syncing my private mirror with a server 
only meant for public mirrors.
Also, is syncing my private mirror once every 24 hours ok?

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Re: [gentoo-user] ATI video tuner

2004-02-01 Thread Andrew Gaffney
gabriel wrote:
On February 01, 2004 12:36 am, Andrew Gaffney wrote:

I just happened upon an ATI TV tuner card today. It has a Rage Pro Turbo
AGP 3D chipset. First, I assume that I need to use the gatos drivers to do
any video capture with this card. I'll be replacing my Rage 128 Pro with
this card since I only have one AGP slot and I don't do much 3D stuff
anyway. Does anyone know if there is anything special I need to do to use
this card with X? Can anyone point me to any sites that will help me setup
this card for capture?


http://gatos.sourceforge.net

but i warn you now, the instructions to actually enable are bordering on 
useless, including phrases like, untar the file and fiddle with the source 
code.
Well, I've dealt with my share of projects like that. By looking up the 102 P/N on 
ati.com, I've determined that my card is an All-In-Wonder Pro 8MB AGP card. I'll assume 
that this is the same as the All-in-Wonder classic (Mach64) which is listed in the 
Supported Cards section of the Gatos drivers site. Does anyone have any other words of 
wisdom before I replace my Xpert 2000 (Rage 128) AGP card?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Matt Wilson
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 12:48, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
 make the following symlink
 
 # ln -s /usr/src/linux-2.6.1 /usr/src/linux

That makes little difference, as (generally) packages that need the
kernel headers look in /usr/include/{linux,scsi,asm} and not
/usr/src/linux/include/{linux,scsi,asm-*}. Oh, yes I've tried linking
/usr/src/... into /usr/include/... (which IIRC is what you had to do in
ye olde days, though apparently that won't work with 2.6)

Which leads me onto the other post;

Alec Berryman said;

 Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't
 compile cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around
 with the ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.

Yea, I didn't think they did (though it did take some testing etc. to
figure this out ). A lot of conflicts, there are (usually down to
redefinitions or undefined type usage... it's messy).

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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Andrej Kacian wrote:

AFAIK Linux users are trained mostly themself.


And *that's* precisely why linux users have better computer knowledge - most
windows users only know how their favorite application works and *refuse* to
look under the hood of the computer, unlike average linux user.
Andrej,
can u tell me, how long time it takes to average linux beginner
to become linux guru if he is learning himself only?
I would like to say few weeks, but I am afraid I have to say
some years!
Reading this ML I learned there is plenty of linux beginners,
but probably no one of them has virus infected linux account.
So let me make a conclusion ...

If viruses can/can't infect users account is not a question
of users education, but application weakness.
noro





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Re: [gentoo-user] ipsec module problems

2004-02-01 Thread Andrew Gaffney
Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I'm currently running gentoo-sources-2.4.20-r5 on one of my production 
servers. I want to try out Freeswan/IPSec. So I enabled all the IPSec 
related modules in the kernel, ran a 'make dep; make bzImage; make 
modules; make modules_install'. Everything went smoothly. I rebooted 
with the new kernel. When I try to 'modprobe ipsec' I get

skyline root # modprobe ipsec
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: unresolved 
symbol sk_run_filter
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod 
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o failed
/lib/modules/2.4.20-gentoo-r5/kernel/net/ipsec/ipsec.o: insmod ipsec failed

Anybody know what I'm doing wrong?
I've searched the forums and only came up with a lot of the same problem, but no solution. 
Should I try compiling it into the kernel instead of as a module?

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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Jakub Krajcovic
 So let me make a conclusion ...
 
 If viruses can/can't infect users account is not a question
 of users education, but application weakness.
 
 noro

From how i look at it, it does not necessary have to have anything to do
with application strenghts/weaknesses. It's the way that you identify
executables in the OS.

Imagine what a Linux user would have to do to get infected by a virus
that spreads by email... he would have to 
a) save the file on his drive
b) give it exetutable persmissions
c) intentionally run it.

And even then, the virus could infect only the user files, because it
would be ran as a process started by the given user. So unless this
action is taken by root, i think that the issue linux and viruses is not
an issue...

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2004-02-01 Thread LJN
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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Rumen Yotov
On , 2004-02-01 at 15:56, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
  So let me make a conclusion ...
  
  If viruses can/can't infect users account is not a question
  of users education, but application weakness.
  
  noro
 
 From how i look at it, it does not necessary have to have anything to do
 with application strenghts/weaknesses. It's the way that you identify
 executables in the OS.
 
 Imagine what a Linux user would have to do to get infected by a virus
 that spreads by email... he would have to 
 a) save the file on his drive
 b) give it exetutable persmissions
 c) intentionally run it.
 
 And even then, the virus could infect only the user files, because it
 would be ran as a process started by the given user. So unless this
 action is taken by root, i think that the issue linux and viruses is not
 an issue...
Sorry may be OT but your signature can't be verified and you write it's
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Re: [gentoo-user] Progress bars??

2004-02-01 Thread Tommi Pirinen




Troy Dack wrote:

  On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 13:36, Tommi Pirinen wrote:
  
  
So how did you install Gentoo?
  

How does installation process have to do with anything? I suppose I
booted it from the disc and made the settings and emerged the packages
I want.

  
  
  
 It is obvious that such a mechanism has not been developed with
gentoo-like solution in mind.

  
  
The compilation system was around long before Gentoo.
  

That is why I said that it has not been developed with gentoo-like
solution in mind. I'm sorry if my English is too hard for you but
that's as good as I can do.

  
Since Gentoo is primarily a "from source" distribution then seeing how a
package is built is part of the process.

  

You can't really see anything from the output of making automake on any
average modern system. Or you might be able to catch the command row of
linker linking the last binaries together since it stops more than one
second in that place and the command line is not so horridly long.

  If you don't like it, pick another distro, use the GRP packages and
don't compile anything yourself or write some code and submit patches.

  

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problems emerging

2004-02-01 Thread Roger Miliker
On Sunday 01 February 2004 10:07, Dave wrote:
 Hello,

 I've finally got my system up (PS thanks for the advice on the kernel).
 Having a basic system I wanted to install various ebuilds, some small
 fluxbox some not so small kde etc

 On two occasions now compilation errors have occured causing the process
 to stop. One on gkrellm recursion error  one on kde networking
 segmentation fault

 This isn't a trick question ... is this normal ... or do I have a
 configuration problem. On both occasions the machine was doing nothing
 but compile. If I re-attempt it usualy appears to succeed.

 my /etc/make.conf contains

 CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu
 CFLAGS=-O3 -march=pentium3 -funroll-loops -pipe

 I am using an antiquated
 PIII 700Mhz 256MB 80GB Drive
 (I remember when this was a cool spec ! ... now dream of 3GHz +)

 Any advice gratefully appreciated ...

 Dave


That could mean your hardware is a little flakey. Make sure the fans run ok 
(clean the dust off them when the box is turned off) and run memtest86 for a 
couple hours (memtest86 is a boot option on the livecd) to see if your RAM 
has errors.

Good luck

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Phil Barnett
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 FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450  and 3com 905c
 without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4.

How many frames per second are you getting in glxgears? Have you gotten Direct 
Rendering working?

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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Wu
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 10:55:48AM +, Fred Labrosse wrote:

 Peter Wu writes:
   
   Microsoft creates features that customers demand so that they can
   sell their products and make money. 
   
 
 I did not follow the thread at all, but when I read that, I jump.  No,
 Microsoft does not create features that customers demand.  They create
 features and work very hard at  convincing their customers that they need
 the features.

Well, features are demanded by customers. Otherwise, why does Microsoft
invest so much money on some features that nobody will buy in?

 How many features of Word does a regular user use?  Never thought that
 the singing and dancing dog (i'nit cute ;-) in the search application was
 just a waste of time and resource.  And so on, and so on...

How many features in your VM and XEmacs does a regular user use? 


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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Wu
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 04:06:31PM +0200, Rumen Yotov wrote:

 On ??, 2004-02-01 at 15:56, Jakub Krajcovic wrote:
   So let me make a conclusion ...
   
   If viruses can/can't infect users account is not a question
   of users education, but application weakness.
   
   noro
  
  From how i look at it, it does not necessary have to have anything to do
  with application strenghts/weaknesses. It's the way that you identify
  executables in the OS.
  
  Imagine what a Linux user would have to do to get infected by a virus
  that spreads by email... he would have to 
  a) save the file on his drive
  b) give it exetutable persmissions
  c) intentionally run it.
  
  And even then, the virus could infect only the user files, because it
  would be ran as a process started by the given user. So unless this
  action is taken by root, i think that the issue linux and viruses is not
  an issue...
 Sorry may be OT but your signature can't be verified and you write it's
 on pgp.mit.edu.

It works fine for me.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Good Games Suggestions

2004-02-01 Thread Spider
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On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 22:45:25 +
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 On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 23:08:58 +0200 Wayne Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 | Can anybody suggest anything from portage ??? 
 
 frozen bubble

crack-attack! 

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[gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Eamon Caddigan
Hey all,

I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.

Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?

Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 01 February 2004 08:16 am, Matt Wilson wrote:
  Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't
  compile cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around
  with the ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.

 Yea, I didn't think they did (though it did take some testing etc. to
 figure this out ). A lot of conflicts, there are (usually down to
 redefinitions or undefined type usage... it's messy).


Hmmm Since upgrading to nptl which calls for an up todate glibc, linux 
headera 2.6.x and kernel 2.6.x I haven't had any of the issues you 
mentioned. However, mysql won't compile unless you jigger the .config file 
from the package, then it will compile ok.

Maybe you've got other problems to iron out first?



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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Wu
On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 11:52:23PM -0700, Collins Richey wrote:

 On Sat, 31 Jan 2004 20:26:43 -0500
 Peter Wu [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  On Sat, Jan 31, 2004 at 10:38:42PM +, Stroller wrote:
  
   On Jan 31, 2004, at 7:57 am, jkw wrote:
   [...]
   ... how can we prevent
   gentoo-user from being archived on google, or stop google from
   making email addresses public information?
   
   Sorry to sound unsympathetic, but it really clogs my mailbox when 
   people complain about this issue. I can't see any way to resolve it,
   so don't want to hear about it unless you have suggestions for doing
   so.
  
  How does Google archive the gentoo mailing list?
  
 
 Google doesn't.  A couple of mailing list archivers archive the gentoo
 lists, and google harvests the data just like it does any other data on
 the web. Anything in the archives, of course, can be harvested by
 malicious spammers.  I'm surprised that my address is not harvested more
 often than it is.

Can anyone from Gentoo.org to talk to Gentoo so that the email address is
masked when gated to the newsgroup archive on Google?

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 01 February 2004 07:54 am, Vanh Phom wrote:
  Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905
  NIC? Any problems at all?

 FWIW, I'm running 2.6 on ASUS cubx-E with Matrox G450  and 3com 905c
 without any problem, and won't go back to 2.4.


Yeah, 2.6 has been a real winner over here also. I've got it on two servers 
supporting a medium sized lan at work with out a sinlge glitch to mention.

Makes one wonder how things could get any better. :')


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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Wu
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 03:53:43PM +, Eamon Caddigan wrote:

 Hey all,
 
 I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
 have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
 something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
 torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
 
 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?

Give Apache a try.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Matt Wilson
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 15:59, Jerry McBride wrote:
 On Sunday 01 February 2004 08:16 am, Matt Wilson wrote:
   Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't
   compile cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around
   with the ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.
 
  Yea, I didn't think they did (though it did take some testing etc. to
  figure this out ). A lot of conflicts, there are (usually down to
  redefinitions or undefined type usage... it's messy).
 
 
 Hmmm Since upgrading to nptl which calls for an up todate glibc, linux 
 headera 2.6.x and kernel 2.6.x I haven't had any of the issues you 
  ^

Where are linux-headers-2.6? I couldn't find them in portage.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread LJN
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 17:03, Peter Wu wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 03:53:43PM +, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 
  Hey all,
  
  I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
  have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
  something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
  torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
  
  Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
  monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
  more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
 
 Give Apache a try.

he said lightweight.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Aaron Walker
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
 have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
 something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
 torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
 
 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
 Eamon

I am currently using monkeyd.  Haven't had any problems so far..  Very
easy to setup and is pretty leightweight.

HTH,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Sean Johnson
Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running
on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system,
a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No
problems at all with either system.

I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel,
but anticipate doing so here before too long.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Sean Johnson
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:04, Matt Wilson wrote:

  
  Hmmm Since upgrading to nptl which calls for an up todate glibc, linux 
  headera 2.6.x and kernel 2.6.x I haven't had any of the issues you 
   ^
 
 Where are linux-headers-2.6? I couldn't find them in portage.

When you utilize the nptl USE variable, it tells glibc to look in
/usr/src/linux for the required linux headers. So as long as you have a
2.6.x kernel at /usr/src/linux you'll be good to go.

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Re: [gentoo-user] viruses

2004-02-01 Thread Mike Williams
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On Sunday 01 February 2004 16:01, Peter Wu wrote:
  Google doesn't.  A couple of mailing list archivers archive the gentoo
  lists, and google harvests the data just like it does any other data on
  the web. Anything in the archives, of course, can be harvested by
  malicious spammers.  I'm surprised that my address is not harvested more
  often than it is.

 Can anyone from Gentoo.org to talk to Gentoo so that the email address is
 masked when gated to the newsgroup archive on Google?

Gentoo.org IS gentoo.
And no, they can't, they don't operate the mail - news gateway.
It's also totally irrelevant anyway, as there is little doubt that spammers 
are subscribed to the group. There are also at least 2 mail - web gateways 
archiving the list, and not munging addresses.

I hate spam as much as the next guy, but once they've got your address there 
is little you can do, either ignore it, or filter it.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Private rsync mirror

2004-02-01 Thread Thorsten Kampe
* Gard Spreemann (2004-02-01 14:08 +0100)
 I want to run my own private rsync mirror, and have followed a guide I found 
 on the forum for this.

Why? http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/rsync.xml ist the official one. The
one on the forum offers just technical advice for a local distfiles
mirror (FETCHCOMMAND, etc).

 I just want to make sure of one thing: The 
 rsync-gentoo-portage.sh script should be set to sync with 
 rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage right?

No, for a /private/mirror rsync.tld.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage is the
right one:

* Rsync etiquette guidelines
  http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030505-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect3

 I don't want to be doing  anything I'm not supposed to, like syncing
 my private mirror with a server  only meant for public mirrors.
 Also, is syncing my private mirror once every 24 hours ok?

Twice a day is okay, but more often than once a day doesn't make
sense.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Sean Johnson
  I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
   have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
   something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
   torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
   
   Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
   monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
   more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?

You might want to look at aolserver. Don't let the name fool you, it's
actually a very nice and small webserver program.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Peter Wu
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 05:10:44PM +0100, LJN wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 17:03, Peter Wu wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 03:53:43PM +, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
  
   Hey all,
   
   I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
   have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
   something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
   torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
   
   Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
   monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
   more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
  
  Give Apache a try.
 
 he said lightweight.

You can disable all the modules and it becomes lightweight.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Aaron Walker
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 07:59, Alec Berryman wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:54:52AM +, Matt Wilson wrote:
  as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
  for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
  considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
  linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant
 
 Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't compile
 cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around with the
 ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.

I've done two NPTL installs so far, and haven't had any problems
whatsoever with glibc.  If you use X or svgalib, however, you will have
problems getting those to compile correctly.  Both of mine have been
server installs, so I haven't needed those packages.

In case anyone is feeling experimental (if not then you probably
shouldnt be messing with NPTL in the first place.. not yet anyways), I
installed w/NPTL by doing the following:

1) Boot LiveCD
2) Do normal install stuff until you get to the part where you need to
edit make.conf
3) Put nptl in the USE flags
4) Edit /usr/portage/sys-kernel/linux-headers/linux-headers-2.6.ebuild
and add you architecture to the KEYWORDS varibale after -*, for
example KEYWORDS=-* x86
5) Run /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap-2.6.sh to start stage 1.
6) Add ~x86 to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in make.conf.  This is needed for NPTL.
7) continue install while crossing fingers.

HTH,
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[gentoo-user] Re: Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Sebastian Bergmann
Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 Are there any others I'm missing?

  Not yet in portage, but definitely worth looking at: lighttpd [1].

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Redeeman
why not use apache2? its not really that big, and really easy, with good
support.

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 16:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
 have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
 something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
 torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
 
 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Collins Richey
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:16:27 -0500
Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running
 on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop
 system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII
 Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system.
 
 I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel,
 but anticipate doing so here before too long.
 

Just curious.  So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have
none.  What applications are you using?

I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 Hey all,

 I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
 have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
 something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
 torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.

 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?


We use mini-httpd at work for our internal web server. It's very small, very 
lightweight and it's about the best one I've found for that kind of purpose.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:04 am, Matt Wilson wrote:
 Where are linux-headers-2.6? I couldn't find them in portage.


It's in /usr/portage/sys-kernel/linux-headers.

If you don't have it, you're ready for an emerge sync


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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Private rsync mirror

2004-02-01 Thread Gard Spreemann
On Sunday 01 February 2004 17:22, Thorsten Kampe wrote:
 No, for a /private/mirror rsync.tld.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage is the
 right one:

 * Rsync etiquette guidelines
   http://www.gentoo.org/news/en/gwn/20030505-newsletter.xml#doc_chap1_sect3

 Twice a day is okay, but more often than once a day doesn't make
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Sunday 01 February 2004 17:16, Sean Johnson wrote:
 Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running
 on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop system,
 a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII Xeon rig. No
 problems at all with either system.

well, I had a big recompile session yesterday, because the latest 
nvidia-driversnptl refused to work.
Up to that moment, everything was very pleasant, but I did not see any 
differences  between nptl and non-nptl, so it was not too painful. (Well, 
glibc, gcc, X, qt, KDE complete.. I wasted a whole day... btw genlop is a 
real useful tool).

Oh, and I tried 2.6 kernels with and without preemption and my system seems a 
little more fluid without preemption...

Glück Auf
Volker

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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:24 am, Aaron Walker wrote:

 I've done two NPTL installs so far, and haven't had any problems
 whatsoever with glibc.  If you use X or svgalib, however, you will have
 problems getting those to compile correctly.  Both of mine have been
 server installs, so I haven't needed those packages.



There are patches for both of those applications that will allow them to 
compile cleanly. If you can wait a tad bit, there will probably be official 
fixes for them shortly


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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
Hi,

On Sunday 01 February 2004 12:54, Matt Wilson wrote:
 I've noticed that whenever I try compile things up that some headers
 from the kernel, they fail unless I have linux-headers-2.4.* merged
 (when merging something from portage they automatically try merge that
 as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
 for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
 considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
 linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant

I:
used 2.6 for some time
set the nptl use-flag
emerged 2.6 headers
let bootstrap-2.6 run
emerged XFree-4.3.99.903
emerged latest qt
emerged KDE-3.2-beta1 and beta2

and had to switch back to 2.4 headers yesterday, rebuild gccglibc, emerged 
Xfree 4.3, latest qt and KDE 3.2-rc1 because with the latest nvidia-drivers X 
did not want to start up, because of SIGFPE, and with earlier ones, I have to 
start X two times or reduce AGP to 4x.

Oh, I spent some time with nptl, but my system did not behave any 'better' 
than before.

Glück Auf,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Using 2.6.* headers?

2004-02-01 Thread Ben Sparks




On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:24, Aaron Walker wrote:

On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 07:59, Alec Berryman wrote:
 On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 11:54:52AM +, Matt Wilson wrote:
  as well). So I was wondering if there's anyway I can use 2.6.* headers
  for compilation instead? I'm using 2.6.1 without any problems and am
  considering giving NPTL a try and once again noticed that glibc needs
  linux-headers-2.4.* ... /rant
 
 Last I heard a number of packages, maybe including glibc, wouldn't compile
 cleanly with the 2.6 headers.  You certainly can fiddle around with the
 ebuilds and start using the 2.6 headers, though.

I've done two NPTL installs so far, and haven't had any problems
whatsoever with glibc.  If you use X or svgalib, however, you will have
problems getting those to compile correctly.  Both of mine have been
server installs, so I haven't needed those packages.

In case anyone is feeling experimental (if not then you probably
shouldnt be messing with NPTL in the first place.. not yet anyways), I
installed w/NPTL by doing the following:

1) Boot LiveCD
2) Do normal install stuff until you get to the part where you need to
edit make.conf
3) Put nptl in the USE flags
4) Edit /usr/portage/sys-kernel/linux-headers/linux-headers-2.6.ebuild
and add you architecture to the KEYWORDS varibale after -*, for
example KEYWORDS=-* x86
5) Run /usr/portage/scripts/bootstrap-2.6.sh to start stage 1.
6) Add ~x86 to ACCEPT_KEYWORDS in make.conf.  This is needed for NPTL.
7) continue install while crossing fingers.

HTH,
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I have not run across any problems, other than X and svgalib and mentioned above. For a work around I used X version 4.3.99.902 and it compiled fine and seems rock stable. As for svgalib, I used the -B flag on one of my stable machines and just installed the binary package that way. 





Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Roy Kidder
Peter Wu said:
 On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 05:10:44PM +0100, LJN wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 17:03, Peter Wu wrote:
  On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 03:53:43PM +, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 
   Hey all,
  
   I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer.
 Since I
   have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just
 want
   something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
   torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
  
   Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are:
 boa,
   monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one
 or
   more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm
 missing?
 
  Give Apache a try.

 he said lightweight.

 You can disable all the modules and it becomes lightweight.

If by lightweight, he meant easy to get up and running out of the box,
then Apache would still be a good candidate. It will serve up static
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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Sean Johnson
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 11:38, Collins Richey wrote:
  Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running
  on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop
  system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII
  Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system.
  
  I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel,
  but anticipate doing so here before too long.
  
 
 Just curious.  So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have
 none.  What applications are you using?
 
 I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl.

On the desktop system, I use gads of stuff, including KDE, GNOME,
enlightenment (which is my primary window manager), OpenOffice, Abiword,
Gnumeric, gaim, evolution, samba, nfs, openldap, mysql, MozillaFirebird,
etc.

I'm running off of an nvidia card using the 4496 drivers, since they
seem to work better than the 5528 or 5532 drivers. I haven't tried the
5536 drivers yet.

On the internet system, it's a bit more stripped down, as it's a
headless box with more specific purposes, and is running stuff like
apache w/ssl,php,mod_perl, mysql, openldap, postfix, etc. 

As far as what I did when switching over to nptl in both cases, I first
booted from a 2.6 kernel. Then I added the nptl USE variable, and did an
emerge glibc. When that was done, I then did an emerge -e system. Then
as stuff broke, I recompiled it as well. Some of the more notable things
that I had to recompile were apache, mysql, php, and X (for the
desktop). In the case of X, it wasn't broken to the point of not
working, but it had become quite flaky. Since the recompile, it hasn't
given me any trouble.

Unfortunately, since I didn't run into any problems, I'm not very good
at offering any troubleshooting advice. :)

Hope this is the sort of thing you were looking for.

Cheers,

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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Jerry McBride
On Sunday 01 February 2004 11:38 am, Collins Richey wrote:
 On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 11:16:27 -0500

 Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Just adding to the list of good news. I've got 2.6.x kernels running
  on two x86 systems, both with nptl turned on. One is my desktop
  system, a dual athlon rig, and one is my internet box, a dual PIII
  Xeon rig. No problems at all with either system.
 
  I still have not moved my ultrasparc or alpha system to a 2.6 kernel,
  but anticipate doing so here before too long.

 Just curious.  So many reports about nptl/glibc problems, but you have
 none.  What applications are you using?

 I've been running 2.5/2.6 for six months with no problems, but no nptl.

Mind if I intrude? I run everything that I want in portage... And whatever I 
need outside of it. No errors or no problems. 

That includes: KDE 3.1.4, 3.2.0, XMMS, JUK, GCC latest version, GLIBC, latest 
version, JAVA, firebird, jedit, netrexx, reginarexx, JUK, mpg321, alsa utils 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 1 Feb 2004 11:39:30 -0500
Jerry McBride [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 10:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote:
  Hey all,
 
  I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
  have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
  something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
  torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
 
  Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
  monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
  more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
 
 
 We use mini-httpd at work for our internal web server. It's very small, very 
 lightweight and it's about the best one I've found for that kind of purpose.

I second on that. mini-httpd is very neat.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Good Games Suggestions

2004-02-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
Wayne Oliver wrote:
Hi All

Can anybody suggest anything from portage ??? 

my sons likes to play bzflag, before they played quake3
and dozens of other games (I don't care)
( windblowz is prohibited at my house :-) )
IMHO there are tons of good games in portage ...
I prefer brain breakers (sokoban, atomix ...)
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[gentoo-user] couple of questions.. PAM sysfs

2004-02-01 Thread Aaron Walker
Just installed 2.6 and NPTL on an old P233 that I am messing around
with, and had a couple of questions.

Firstly, when booting it says /sys does not exist and that 2.6 requires
it.  I figured the sysfs was setup automatically because I didnt have to
do it manually on all 3 of my other Gentoo 2.6 boxen.  What do I need to
do to create this manually?

I was following the Gentoo Security Guide and edited my
/etc/pam.d/passwd and sshd files exactly as specified in the guide, but
my sshd logfile is complaining about pam_pwdb.so not being found.

is the guide outdated or something? or is something not installed that
should be? pam is in the USE flags.  The only package it said to install
in that section was cracklib, which was installed during installation.

any ideas?

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB camera - almost

2004-02-01 Thread gabriel
On February 01, 2004 12:30 pm, Bill Witherspoon wrote:
 I'm trying to connect a Canon S30 via USB to my box. It is detected on
 plugging in, and unplugging (from /var/log/kernel/current):

do yourself a favour and go down to radio shack and blow $20 on a usb card 
reader.  it mounts rediculously easy and all you need is usb mass storage 
support.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [normal] [gentoo-user] USB camera - almost

2004-02-01 Thread Marc Redmann
Hi Bill,

 but I am unable to to use gphoto2

are you sure that you have to use gphoto2 to access the photos on your
camera, maybe you can try to use your camera as usb mass storage device,
with this you would be able to mount your camera as you would do with
your harddisk partitions. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Eamon Caddigan wrote:
 Hey all,
 
 I'm thinking of setting up a small httpd on my desktop computer. Since I
 have a dynamic IP and no extra box to use as a server, I just want
 something really simple that will let me serve static files, e.g.
 torrents, images, and the occasional MP3.
 
 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?
 
 Thanks,
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Apache Apache Apache.

I have a PII 233MHz w/MMX with which I use to serve up static and
dynamic files while still having plenty of power left over for
everything else (listen to music, rip cd's, etc.)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Joseph A. Nagy, Jr.
Redeeman wrote:
 why not use apache2? its not really that big, and really easy, with good
 support.
 
snip

Not to mention extremely configurable, and even with the default module
set, rather small memory footprint.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Lightweight httpd

2004-02-01 Thread Glenn English
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 08:53, Eamon Caddigan wrote:

 Some programs that look interesting (found 'em all in portage) are: boa,
 monkeyd, cherokee, and fnord. Would anybody with experience in one or
 more of these share their opinion? Are there any others I'm missing?

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[gentoo-user] Patching gentoo-dev-sources for Alsa 1.0.2

2004-02-01 Thread Mark Knecht
Hi,
   Has anyone accomplished this yet? It appears that gentoo-dev-sources
comes with Alsa-1.0.0rc2

bash-2.05b$ cat /proc/asound/version 
Advanced Linux Sound Architecture Driver Version 1.0.0rc2.
Compiled on Feb  1 2004 for kernel 2.6.1-gentoo.
bash-2.05b$ 

but I need to run 1.0.2. Does anyone know how to do this? 

Or is there possibly a different version of the kernel that has the most
up to date Alsa already in it?

I know with 1394, which has come with the kernel for a long time now,
you could download CVS and then just replace the drivers/ieee1394
directory and everything would work fine. However, Alsa looks much more
complicated.

Thanks in advance!

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Re: [gentoo-user] couple of questions.. PAM sysfs

2004-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 13:25:07 -0500 Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
| Firstly, when booting it says /sys does not exist and that 2.6
| requires it.  I figured the sysfs was setup automatically because I
| didnt have to do it manually on all 3 of my other Gentoo 2.6 boxen. 
| What do I need to do to create this manually?

mkdir /sys or use a newer baselayout.

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[gentoo-user] Re: [suse-slox-e] fetchmail

2004-02-01 Thread lukas
On Sunday 01 February 2004 18:11, DNocon wrote:

 Hello NG,

 with the included routine I can fetch only up to five external eMail
 - Accounts. If I try to configure to sixth account, the server says
 me: .not fetched: reached max Thread limit, try again!

 So, can I configure fetchmail manually to fetch more eMail Accounts?

I'm fetching 7 external accounts and I don't have manipulated any
file. I've just configured /etc/fetchmail.conf and I get no errors.

cu

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Re: [gentoo-user] couple of questions.. PAM sysfs

2004-02-01 Thread Redeeman
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 19:25, Aaron Walker wrote:
 Just installed 2.6 and NPTL on an old P233 that I am messing around
 with, and had a couple of questions.
 
 Firstly, when booting it says /sys does not exist and that 2.6 requires
 it.  I figured the sysfs was setup automatically because I didnt have to
 do it manually on all 3 of my other Gentoo 2.6 boxen.  What do I need to
 do to create this manually?

mkdir /sys
and it works.
 
 I was following the Gentoo Security Guide and edited my
 /etc/pam.d/passwd and sshd files exactly as specified in the guide, but
 my sshd logfile is complaining about pam_pwdb.so not being found.
 
 is the guide outdated or something? or is something not installed that
 should be? pam is in the USE flags.  The only package it said to install
 in that section was cracklib, which was installed during installation.
 
 any ideas?
 
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[gentoo-user] emerge -uv world ([ebuild U ] dev-lang/perl-5.8.2-r1 [5.8.0-r12] +berkdb -doc +gdbm -threads and coresponding libperl(which installed ok))

2004-02-01 Thread LJN
There were some complaint about the same file being missing several
times in the install, can't copy them tho as they're out of the buffer.

I tried rerunning it, exactly the same.

I synced just before this.

I'm on an ext3 fs and it's never been shut down uncleanly.

I'm on the latest stable gentoo-sources and it's been running fine.

Any ideas?

 /usr/share/man/man3/CPAN::FirstTime.3.gz
 /usr/share/man/man3/ExtUtils::MakeMaker::Tutorial.3.gz
 /usr/share/man/man3/DB_File.3pm.gz
 /usr/share/man/man3/ExtUtils::Constant.3.gz

!!! ERROR: There appears to be FILE SYSTEM CORRUPTION. A file that is
listed
!!!as existing is not capable of being stat'd. If you are using
an
!!!experimental kernel, please boot into a stable one, force an
fsck,
!!!and ensure your filesystem is in a sane state. 'shutdown -Fr
now'
!!!File: 
/var/tmp/portage/perl-5.8.2-r1/image/usr/share/man/man3/Hash::Util.tmp
!!!Error: [Errno 2] No such file or directory:
'/var/tmp/portage/perl-5.8.2-r1/image/usr/share/man/man3/Hash::Util.tmp'



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[gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1

2004-02-01 Thread Alex Nelson
Anyone else having problems with the new Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1 build? I 
synced this afternoon and when I go to build it, I get the following.

setup
unpack
 Unpacking source...
Creating directory NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1
Verifying archive integrity... OK
Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 
1.0-5336
Linux kernel 2.4.24
 Source unpacked.
compile
rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o  nv-linux.o 
nv_compiler.h *.d NVdriver nvidia.o
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `nvidia.o'.  Stop.
make: *** [nvidia.o] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.5336-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 115, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
Any ideas or suggestions? I have deleted the ebuild and the files and 
re-synced but still get the same result.

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[gentoo-user] What package has pdfxmltex?

2004-02-01 Thread Chris Bare
I'm trying to get a docbook XML file turned into a pdf. I had this working on
a Mandrake system after I installed tons of packages, but I can't seem to find
the right combination of packages for gentoo.

I'm missing the pdfxmltex command.

I have installed the following docbook related packages:

jadetex
dev-perl/XML-XSLT
passivetex
saxon
dev-java/fop-bin

in addition to all the docbook DTD, stylesheets, etc.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [suse-slox-e] fetchmail

2004-02-01 Thread lukas
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1

2004-02-01 Thread Andrej Kacian
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:33:29 -0500
Alex Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Anyone else having problems with the new Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1 build? I 
 synced this afternoon and when I go to build it, I get the following.
 
 
 setup
 unpack
   Unpacking source...
 Creating directory NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1
 Verifying archive integrity... OK
 Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 
 1.0-5336
 
  Linux kernel 2.4.24
   Source unpacked.
 compile
 rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o  nv-linux.o 
 nv_compiler.h *.d NVdriver nvidia.o
 make[1]: *** No rule to make target `nvidia.o'.  Stop.
 make: *** [nvidia.o] Error 2
 
 !!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.5336-r1 failed.
 !!! Function src_compile, Line 115, Exitcode 2
 !!! (no error message)
 
 Any ideas or suggestions? I have deleted the ebuild and the files and 
 re-synced but still get the same result.

I already posted a bug to gentoo bugzilla yesterday, and spyder already fixed
it in portage cvs. :)

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[gentoo-user] cron and mail

2004-02-01 Thread David
What ebuild(s) do I need for cron to mail its output (locally) to root?

/david

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1

2004-02-01 Thread Bart Veldhuijzen
Alex Nelson wrote:

Anyone else having problems with the new Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1 build? I 
synced this afternoon and when I go to build it, I get the following.

make[1]: *** No rule to make target `nvidia.o'.  Stop.
make: *** [nvidia.o] Error 2
In the ebuild change
make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux \
clean nvidia.o || die
to
make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux \
clean module || die
don't know what that kernel_check is doing there, it's the nvidia-stuff 
that's changed.

Bart

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Re: [gentoo-user] No sound with MythTV

2004-02-01 Thread Bryce
Not with the capture card that he has. MythTV requries 2 things to work 
properly, QT  ALSA. If ALSA is configured correctly, then he shouldn't have 
any problems. Again, in order for mythtv to have worked for me, i had to 
remove the OSS support from my kernel (2.6.1) completely, and get alsa to 
work( all things as modules) before i got sound myself.

bryce

On Saturday 31 January 2004 04:28 pm, James Lee wrote:
 On Sat, 2004-01-31 at 13:40 -0500, Alec Berryman wrote:
  can view the cable stream with MythTV, but cannot hear any sound.  I've
 
  Any suggestions?

 Don't you have to connect the audio output of the tv tuner to the line
 in of your sound card?  I know that I do.


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Re: [gentoo-user] OT: The beauty of 2.6

2004-02-01 Thread Bryce
Ditto here!

bryce

On Sunday 01 February 2004 03:32 am, Bill Roberts wrote:
 On 10:07 Sun 01 Feb , LJN wrote:
  Ok I want to switch for sure!
 
  Anyone who have tried 2.6 on an Asus p3b-f with Matrox G400 and 3com905
  NIC? Any problems at all?

 The 3c905c works fine here.


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[gentoo-user] highmem K7S5A

2004-02-01 Thread Jonathan Nichols
Hey all,
	I have an ECS K7S5A board and tried putting 2x512 DDR2100 DIMMS into 
the thing. It boots up, but I get an error in dmesg about only 896MB 
being available. So, following some instructions I found on 
forums.gentoo.org, I enabled highmem support (4gb) in the kernel and 
recompiled. From that moment on, I got nothing but kernel panic errors 
on start!
	The RAM tests just fine. I tossed in the memtest86 CD and let it run 
for 24 hours - not one single error. The same RAM works perfect in 
another box with the same board running Windows XP (I have 5 of these 
boards and haven't had a single problem so far - 1 board is in a linux 
box, but it only has 512mb RAM)
	I got the kernel panics to go away by removing highmem support, and 
putting 1x512 module and 1x256 module in the box instead. 768MB RAM 
isn't too bad, but I can't figure out why it was crashing. =/

I'm using gentoo-sources-2.4.22-r5 on all of the machines.
Has anybody ever used one of these boards with 1gb RAM? =/
Thanks!

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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1

2004-02-01 Thread Alex Nelson
Andrej Kacian wrote:

On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 14:33:29 -0500
Alex Nelson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 

Anyone else having problems with the new Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1 build? I 
synced this afternoon and when I go to build it, I get the following.

setup
unpack
 Unpacking source...
Creating directory NVIDIA-Linux-x86-1.0-5336-pkg1
Verifying archive integrity... OK
Uncompressing NVIDIA Accelerated Graphics Driver for Linux-x86 
1.0-5336

 Linux kernel 2.4.24
 Source unpacked.
compile
rm -f nv.o os-agp.o os-interface.o os-registry.o  nv-linux.o 
nv_compiler.h *.d NVdriver nvidia.o
make[1]: *** No rule to make target `nvidia.o'.  Stop.
make: *** [nvidia.o] Error 2

!!! ERROR: media-video/nvidia-kernel-1.0.5336-r1 failed.
!!! Function src_compile, Line 115, Exitcode 2
!!! (no error message)
Any ideas or suggestions? I have deleted the ebuild and the files and 
re-synced but still get the same result.
   

I already posted a bug to gentoo bugzilla yesterday, and spyder already fixed
it in portage cvs. :)
 

Cool. Guess I will wait for it to come into the pipe then. Thanks for 
the quick reply.

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Re: [gentoo-user] USB camera - almost

2004-02-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
gabriel wrote:
do yourself a favour and go down to radio shack and blow $20 on a usb card 
reader.  it mounts rediculously easy and all you need is usb mass storage 
support.

yes, but it can happen, he will have to unsupported devices :-(
because not all card readers are supported under linux
at first he should check if everything is set up correctly,
google about cannon support ...


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[gentoo-user] mozilla broken after emerge

2004-02-01 Thread James Hughes
Hi, 

First post to this list, so greetings to all. 

I just did 'emerge world' the other day, and after a reboot just now I
tried to start mozilla. Nothing happens. 'pgrep mozilla' shows half a
dozen or so pid's, I can see mozilla-bin in top, and there's a flurry of
activity in my fluxbox toolbar, but no mozilla window. Is there a way to
make mozilla spew some more verbose startup messages? (I tried '-v', no
luck). 

thanks for any suggestions,
James




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Re: [gentoo-user] cron and mail

2004-02-01 Thread Norbert Kamenicky
David wrote:
What ebuild(s) do I need for cron to mail its output (locally) to root?

any MTA should do it, the simplest is probably ssmtp

try emerge ssmtp

maybe, some configuration is needed
(I didn't try it.)
noro



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Re: [gentoo-user] cron and mail

2004-02-01 Thread Mike
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 06:21:07PM +0100, David wrote:
 What ebuild(s) do I need for cron to mail its output (locally) to root?
 
 /david

Well, cron, of course, there are several flavors, vcron, fcron, anacron.
Can't comment on merits of each.

And you will need net-mail/mailx, and I recommend net-mail/ssmtp. Since
you are just sending locally you don't need a full blown MTA
(sendmail, postfix).

HTH,
Mike

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[gentoo-user] f-prot from postfix

2004-02-01 Thread Tom Wesley
Hi,

Has anyone got a script to hand that will tag infected mail with some
header from a bash script?  I already have spamassassin working fine and
am not interesting in amavisd as I've had problems with it losing tags
etc.

I just want to scan the message, add an Infected: Yes tag if f-prot
thinks it's infected.

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[gentoo-user] Re: cron and mail

2004-02-01 Thread David
ok, thanks! vcron tries to sent to port 25 though, and ssmtp doesn't run 
as a daemon. Know where I cat set it so that it uses /sur/sbin/ssmtp?

Mike wrote:
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 06:21:07PM +0100, David wrote:

What ebuild(s) do I need for cron to mail its output (locally) to root?

/david


Well, cron, of course, there are several flavors, vcron, fcron, anacron.
Can't comment on merits of each.
And you will need net-mail/mailx, and I recommend net-mail/ssmtp. Since
you are just sending locally you don't need a full blown MTA
(sendmail, postfix).
HTH,
Mike
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Re: [gentoo-user] Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1

2004-02-01 Thread Mike Morrell
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 13:10, Bart Veldhuijzen wrote:
 Alex Nelson wrote:
 
  Anyone else having problems with the new Nvidia-kernel 5336-r1 build? I 
  synced this afternoon and when I go to build it, I get the following.
 
  make[1]: *** No rule to make target `nvidia.o'.  Stop.
  make: *** [nvidia.o] Error 2
 
 In the ebuild change
 make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux \
  clean nvidia.o || die
 to
 make IGNORE_CC_MISMATCH=yes KERNDIR=/usr/src/linux \
  clean module || die
 don't know what that kernel_check is doing there, it's the nvidia-stuff 
 that's changed.
 
 Bart
 
 --

  For those of you running it are you by chance using 2.6 kernel?  Is it
any faster then 1.0.4496-r3?


Mike


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Re: [gentoo-user] couple of questions.. PAM sysfs

2004-02-01 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:26:50 -0500 Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
|  mkdir /sys or use a newer baselayout.
| 
| Do you not need an fstab entry like:? 
| 
| none /sys   sysfs   default 0   0
| 
| I went ahead and made it without even thinking, just mimicing the
| procedure used with proc.

Nope. Newer baselayout versions do that for you. I'm pretty sure that
even the stable baselayout will do it if /sys exists...

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: cron and mail

2004-02-01 Thread Mike
On Sun, Feb 01, 2004 at 10:31:49PM +0100, David wrote:
 ok, thanks! vcron tries to sent to port 25 though, and ssmtp doesn't run 
 as a daemon. Know where I cat set it so that it uses /sur/sbin/ssmtp?
 

On my system:

$ file `which sendmail`
/usr/sbin/sendmail: symbolic link to `/usr/sbin/ssmtp'

Have you tried it? Yes, it uses port 25. It has to. That doesn't mean it
is sending it outside your local machine. Well, okay, it doesn't have to
use port 25 but that is the default. You could change it just look in
/etc/ssmtp/ssmtp.conf. The bottom line is sendmail/ssmtp doesn't have to
run as a daemon to _send_ mail, sinc it will be invoked by the mailx
program (or your mail client).

Mike


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[gentoo-user] emerge -C glibc

2004-02-01 Thread Ben Anderson
I posted a few months ago about my boot process
stopping at:
mounting proc at /proc
I finally realized what was wrong when I chrooted in
and mount produced an error like GLIBC no good.  So
I emerge -C glibc, with intentions of reemerging. 
Obviosly, as I realized seconds later, this was a very
bad decision by Ben.  Does anyone know if I can
recover from this?  I think I'll just start gentoo
over again.  But seriously, why did Gentoo screw up my
boot process (glibc) in the first place.  Perhaps I'll
try Debain.
Thanks,
Ben

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Re: [gentoo-user] couple of questions.. PAM sysfs

2004-02-01 Thread Sean Johnson
On Sun, 2004-02-01 at 17:04, Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
 On Sun, 01 Feb 2004 15:26:50 -0500 Sean Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 |  mkdir /sys or use a newer baselayout.
 | 
 | Do you not need an fstab entry like:? 
 | 
 | none /sys   sysfs   default 0   0
 | 
 | I went ahead and made it without even thinking, just mimicing the
 | procedure used with proc.
 
 Nope. Newer baselayout versions do that for you. I'm pretty sure that
 even the stable baselayout will do it if /sys exists...

Sweeet ... thanks for the info!

Sean


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