RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
looking for something meant for Linux. Since I have an XP machine I can install NFS on it,too. eh? Is this something built into the OS, Or something you've added on? I use win2k for CAD work and would find NFS on that machine quite useful. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
I vaguely remember from my days as a Win2K admin that it was available. However, I never installed it or used it. We used NFS to from DOS (yes, DOS) to VMS to move data from a gauging system. When we went to Windows the vendor updated the DOS to use MS networking. I've seen it as a fairly expensive commercial offering, but I don't think that win2k has it built in. other commerical stuff and you could probably run NFS under Cygwin. Thanks for the tip. I think I looked into this some time ago, but found it problematic for some reason or another. I'll look into it again. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
Let me know what you find. Maybe it was just Win2K server that had it. Microsoft's Unix tools for Windows has it. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
Okay. I am entirely too obsessed by this. I did what I should have done months ago and looked around the AFS site (www.openafs.org) and within 30 seconds find that there are both client and server packages for Windows. So AFS can be used to share files between Unix and Windows machines. Somebody mentioned CODA earlier. It seems to work between platforms as well: http://www.coda.cs.cmu.edu/ -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] EPIA CFLAGS
i2c: kernel; I had no idea there was an ebuild i2c 2.8.0+ needs you to make a small modification to the Makefile. Do you have any i2c errors in your logs when you access /dev/video0? h...I hadn't thought about looking for them. I will have to look at this during the weekend. Thanks for the tip. modules.conf: I haven't touched it. For now I use a script I wrote to load the modules. I just thought it would be easier to edit that to adapt to changes until I think the box is ready for every-day use. When I do work on it, I would be happy to share it. The Gentoo-ish way of handling the ivtv options would be to create /etc/modules.d/ivtv, drop your configs in there, then run modules-update. Here's what I'm using: # WinTV PVR 350 alias char-major-81 videodev alias char-major-81-0 ivtv alias /dev/v4l ivtv options ivtv debug=1 options tuner type=21 options msp3400 once=1 simple=1 options saa7115 add below ivtv msp3400 saa7115 saa7127 tuner post-install ivtv /usr/local/bin/test_ioctl -d /dev/video0 -u 0x3000 -p4 post-install ivtv /usr/local/bin/test_ioctl -d /dev/video16 -u 0x3000 post-install ivtv /usr/local/bin/test_ioctl -d /dev/video32 -u 0x3000 Yes, I know that it's helpful to modify modules.conf. I just hadn't done it yet, because I didn't necessarily want things to load on their own until I'm happy with how everything is working. For now, the scripts are what I want. Thanks, by the way, for posting that. It'll make my life somewhat easier. What do you prefer for playback? My own preference is to use the box for a variety of multimedia tasks, and specifically as a pvr, so mythtv seems to be the best fit for it. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] EPIA CFLAGS
On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 18:01, David Mallwitz wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2003 04:54 pm, Jayson Garrell wrote: On Tue, 2003-12-09 at 13:32, David Mallwitz wrote: On Tuesday 09 December 2003 11:58 am, Jayson Garrell wrote: What are the best CFLAG opts for this mobo? Is there a C3 option or do I need go with i586 or i686. I don't need any help installing Gentoo or mythtv, I just wanted to make this setup as fast as it can be. http://www.viaarena.com/?PageID=368#Introduction and http://blade5.bvu.edu/wiki/tiki-index.php?page=EpiaHowto will be your best resources. What kind of TV card are you going to use? Hauppauge pvr250 I'm working on the same thing with a pvr350. Lemme know how it goes. I too would be interested in knowing how it goes for both of you. I've been thinking about throwing a tv card in the home NAT box to serve wireless tv to my laptop. You should definately document everything you do, maybe set up a website. Chris I Of course there's no reason for it, it's just our policy. Don't worry too much about optimizing the hell out of it. I use: -mcpu=i586 -O2 -mmmx -msse (from memory, not sure about the last one). Too much optimization will increase the compile time so much it'll annoy the hell out of you, with little real gain. Mythtv works pretty well without via's binary drivers. I forced some things to load and recompiled mythtv to take advantage of the mpeg2 decoder and it worked out quite nicely. for playback. Then, I couldn't recompile the ivtv modules. Right now I'm holding on until the latest reverse-engineered decoder stuff is included in the -epia kernel (www.ivor.it/cle266) that a fine chap has put together. Before I to include more of the goodies, I had the best luck with ac-sources for kernel, and the latest development release of xfree86 (currently 4.3.99.901, I think). The ivy tv page at http://ivtv.sourceforge.net can tell you how to set up the lirc drivers for the pvr250/350. I set that up some time ago, so don't now remember details. For a WM, I decided that something a little nicer than twm was in order, so I used waimea. Lots of people have had good luck with any of the *box WMs. good luck -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] EPIA CFLAGS
The ivy tv page at http://ivtv.sourceforge.net can tell you how to set up the lirc drivers for the pvr250/350. I set that up some time ago, so don't now remember details. Lets compare notes. What gcc version are you using? Do you use the kernel i2c modules, or the ebuild (if so, which version)? Would you mind posting the ivtv section of your /etc/modules.conf? gcc version: I think it updated to 3.2.3-r3 a few days ago. i2c: kernel; I had no idea there was an ebuild modules.conf: I haven't touched it. For now I use a script I wrote to load the modules. I just thought it would be easier to edit that to adapt to changes until I think the box is ready for every-day use. When I do work on it, I would be happy to share it. For a WM, I decided that something a little nicer than twm was in order, so I used waimea. Lots of people have had good luck with any of the *box WMs. The latest DirectFB includes support for the CLE266 video, so I've been bypassing X and running directly from the framebuffer. Works great. I don't think that mythtv works on the framebuffer. I seem to recall that the qt libraries need a good deal of work still to work well on on the framebuffer. The framebuffer has never been important to me, other than to have a better-looking console. Vesa-fb works fine for that. Overall, I've not really had any problems with it, until I tried to use the -epia kernels (mythfrontend locks) or tried to use via's binary drivers. I found that I couldn't use the Xfree drivers unless I used their kernel modules. When I use their kernel modules, I have to use their videodev. When I use their videodev, ivtv breaks. ugh. I do have high hopes for the -epia kernel with ivor's work added in. good luck -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Opinions on USB scanners in Linux?
Matthew -- I think we would all like to hear how this works out. I for one, do not have a workable linux scanner at this time. My microtek is not supported by linux/sane. So I am looking. If the Epson Perf 2400P works well I would really consider getting one after the holidays are over. I have one. It works quite well. gripes: the film adapter doesn't hold the film flat. I had to come up with my own kludge to correct this. It's a little slow, but I don't mind it too bad. I didn't exactly buy a professional grade scanner. I found the xsane negative color correction to be much more capable than that provided by epson-okawa. (In fairness, I ran out of patience pretty quickly with the epson-okawa software and just switched to xsane.) I'm no pro, but I found everything to work well, with slow but reasonable speed. just my nickel's worth. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)
On Fri, 2003-12-05 at 04:45, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: Also, the Rio Karma http://www.digitalnetworksna.com/shop/_templates/item_main_Ri o.asp?model=220cat=53 has FLAC and Ogg Vorbis support. Silly question, but does it have Linux support? :) [Presumably a USB mass-storage driver device?] I also seem to recall something about the bugger using java. Also from their website: Included docking station supports: - Dual RCA Line-Outs to connect to most home stereo components - Ethernet port - Assign an IP address for networking capability - Auto-synchronization with host PC One doesn't need to have USB to work with it. hmmm. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Ogg Vorbis very bad quality (compared to MP3)
Sandly the sound in it self is not what it should be. Ie the sound doesn't represent the sound it should. I have tested these with 'Hells Bells' and there really is clear differences although my hearing is not even closely thesame level as with my wifes. She is classical musician and playes clarinet. Well, if that's the case, may I suggest flac ? ( emerge flac ). loose less audio compression is interresting, but how much does a average track take? it must take much more than a vorbis or mp3 encoded file http://flac.sourceforge.net/comparison.html. This is a comparison of various lossless codecs, but does give some idea of the rate of compression. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Home Improvement Software?
I've seen some home improvement / landscaping shows on DIY Net, Home and Leisure, etc. where they use software to add features (decks, trees, foliage, grasses, siding, etc.) to a digital picture of a house, yard or garden to get a rough idea of what it would look like if implemented. Does anyone here know of some home improvement / landscaping software for Linux that can do this or at least point me in the correct direction? I'm not looking for large and complicated 3D modeling software because I don't feel like spending years to learn the software just so I can create some simple digital sketches of some home improvement projects. I've never seen anything for linux that meets your needs. wine and a windows package, maybe? cycas is damn easy to use. (www.cycas.de) It is, however, architectural in focus. Any others I (for linux) I know about are either incomplete or are mechanical packages. Good luck, and I wouldn't mind hearing if you find something useful. qualifier: I've used and continue to use a variety of 3-d CAD software, so might have found it easier to use than others might. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] iptables
hi, i am seeking and application for easy building iptables scripts, its not anything advanced, it just gotta block some ports from public, and route some ports to another machine on my LAN, anyone can suggest an app? thanks! Many like shorewall, and some use fwbuilder. My preference is monmotha. You can also read some and write your own. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] building openoffice
I have a request then: Would someone with adequate diskspace (and time, etc) be willing to compile it for me (w/ my make.conf)? My laptop can't handle this ebuild. please, -chris Chris, It's already been done. Just: emerge openoffice-bin -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cups printing problems
Hello Everyone, Here is what I have tried: bash-2.05b# grep 420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml:printer id=printer/HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/printer/HP-DeskJet_420C.xml: modelDeskJet 420C/model bash-2.05b# grep HP-DeskJet_420C /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/* /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/cdj500.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- /usr/share/foomatic/db/source/driver/hpijs.xml: idprinter/HP-DeskJet_420C/id!-- HP DeskJet 420C -- bash-2.05b# foomatic-configure -s cups -p HP-DeskJet_420C -c file:/dev/lp0 -n HP420C -d hpijs lpadmin: Unable to connect to server: Connection refused Could not set up/change the queue HP420C! I have tried the device both with and without the file:, same results. Thanks, Harlan... You said in an earlier e-mail that you didn't see any devices in the printer setup in cups. does /dev/lp0 exist? try: ls /dev | grep lp -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] from which ebuild is libttf.so.2 ?
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 12, 2003 3:37 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] [SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] from which ebuild is libttf.so.2 ? Patrick Börjesson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: # qpkg -nc -f /usr/lib/libttf.so media-libs/freetype Guess that answers your question... You were right. I wandered a short time before finding out that xlock was producing the same error. So i re-emerged it and i think it merged the right version of freetype because Eterm is now able to rebuild and ... to run :-) I don't fully understand the slot system but i think this problem had to do with this. Thanks ! I had a smaller version of your problem a while back (a year or so ago). My solution was somewhat simpler. I unmerged the offended application, then re-emerged it, at which point it picked up the missing dependencies. It's simple, but not necessarily fast. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to lock an ebuild version?
Will that keep an emerge sync from deleting the physical *.ebuild files? I have a feeling one might want to keep those around and not have the rsync process wipe it out. Tom Veldhouse create /usr/local/portage, use the same directory structure as /usr/portage (i.e. /usr/local/portage/sys-kernel). Copy the e-builds that you want to keep there. Next, edit make.conf, looking for the line PORTDIR_OVERLAY (I think) and adjust it to suit your needs. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Who do you call????
spinner root # emerge -pu --deep world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] sys-libs/zlib-1.1.4-r3 [1.1.4-r2] [ebuild U ] dev-libs/libxml2-2.6.1 [2.5.11] [blocks B ] kde-base/kdelibs-3.1.4 (from pkg x11-libs/qt-3.2.2) [ebuild U ] app-cdr/cdrtools-2.01_alpha19 [2.01_alpha18-r1] spinner root # Did you search the forums or list archives before you asked this? I tend to doubt that you tried. step 1 emerge -u --deep world until it stops. step 2 emerge unmerge qt step 3 emerge -u --deep world -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Who do you call????
Did you search the forums or list archives before you asked this? I tend to doubt that you tried. step 1 emerge -u --deep world until it stops. step 2 emerge unmerge qt step 3 emerge -u --deep world -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list err...One might do well to ignore this. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Who do you call????
--- Rex Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did you search the forums or list archives before you asked this? I tend to doubt that you tried. step 1 emerge -u --deep world until it stops. step 2 emerge unmerge qt step 3 emerge -u --deep world -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list err...One might do well to ignore this. You included your original response to this thread. Is that what you meant to do. If so, why? Because in retrospect, it ocurred to me that I was likely mistaken. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: How many of you are 100% Linux?
... Probably within a year, there will be an open source parametric CAD application I check the as yet unnamed project's progress from time to time) ... unnamed, but can you tell me where I can find some information myself about this? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gnome Shutdown Doesn't Work
The only way that I have found to make this work is to chmod +s /sbin/shutdown. I know that this isn't very secure and if there is a better way, please correct me. sudo. Sudo is good because it is persistent across upgrades. It's also fine-grained in permissions granted. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] file manager suggestion
looking for a light yet functional file manager for my PVR project box, X and console suggestions both welcome. file manager -- I like gentoo (Not related to the distribution) On my pvr, I use xterm. It has no fancy features, but it works quite well. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] installing fans
But, the point is that a vacuum is counter-productive. You *shouldn't* want a vacuum. Think of it this way (very simplified): A fan moves air. When the pressure on the intake side of the fan is lower than that on the outlet side, the fan moves less air (or, if you want to think of it like this, the fan must work harder to move the same amount of air). When the pressure on the inlet side is higher than that of the outlet side, it moves more air. Air cooling works by convection. The more air you can pass over a hot thing, the more heat dissipated. So, you want to move as much air as possible. It is therefore advantageous to have a blower (inlet fan) as opposed to a vacuum so that you can move as much air as possible. Now, your argument about directing air over specific devices does have some merit. Ideally you want drive plate fans blowing air over the drives, adding to the *positive* pressure inside your case. Anthony is right. What Steve it getting at, however, is that he is accepting a slightly lower airflow overall in order to direct airflow over specific components, such as hard drives. My recommendation would be to mount the hard drives low in the case, put a fan right in front of them, and created a better balance of forced inlet and outlet flow. Sorry for jumping in, but pumps (fans, etc) are a topic on which I'm quite knowledgable. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] web cam
what program do i need to get my web cam working? hehe - Can you be a little more specific? Do you use kde? gnome? something else? Do you have a firewire webcam? usb? Have you done any research to see if your specific webcam is even usable in linux? What do you want to use the webcam for? You've asked a very open-ended question which is impossible to answer in any way which might satisfy you. ps - I noticed while trying to get my firewire webcam working that this question comes up once in a while on the forums (http://www.gentoo.org). May I suggest that this might be a good place to start your quest? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] web cam
comes up once in a while on the forums (http://www.gentoo.org). May I I meant that to be http://forums.gentoo.org. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] web cam
sorry, I'm not used to asking for help. kde, usb, logitech and what ever it might be used for. thanks for the sudgestion I'm afraid that the best I can say is search. I know little about kde and its apps. As to the cam itself, it may or may not be supported. http://www.linux-usb.org/devices.html and www.google.com/linux would both be very good places to start. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mythtv blocked
Hey, anyone know why (or can tell me where to find this stuff out myself in the future) why the mythtv ebuild is blocked? Thanks. I think that you'll find that it is blocked by another myth component. (mythfrontend?) There should be an error message minimally defining the block. Remove the blocking add-on and you should be in business. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] a smaller penguin
hey i was hoping for a small linux distro. like i love my bloated destop its blazing thanks to those optimizations but what if i wanted to use gentoo for somthing embedded? i was hoping to get something small like debian. with the auto stuff like gentoo ;) i tried using 386 once back in 1.3 i think and it didnt work out the system seemed to be corrupt. ive tried a few flags to i think it was -s to try to make the binarys small as possible? anyways i realize this isnt the goal of gentoo to make things tiny but if i could get the basic install with X and a few other apps onto a 700m cd it would make my heart sing! :D did i just goof the 386 install or is 486 the lowest supported? zynot is a fork of gentoo, and is aimed at embedded systems. I think it's still in its early stages, but you may want to look at it. www.zynot.org. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer
-Original Message- From: Vincent van de Camp [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, August 27, 2003 11:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer OK, I've had partial success. As it turns out (after a four hour power outage due to some heavy storms in the area), the Location / was set to Deny all and then Allow all, in that order. After I'd changed that, I was able to print from one computer to the print server, but only using the kde-print manager, as was suggested. However, as said, I don't use kde, and I don't want to depend on that. There has to be a way to just foomatic my way to the other computer. But alas, I haven't found one yet. How would I set up the -c part of the foomatic statement? lpd? http? ipp? Now that I know my printserver is reachable, I know it can be done, just not exactly how... Rex Young wrote: h...Have you tried: lpr something.ps with a postscript file from the command line? I've never had to do any printer setup from client computers. I think that portage installed foomatic when I set up cups, but I haven't done anything with it other than the setup on the server. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer
begin quote I can find little to no documentation about how to do this, all I can find is printing to samba hosts, or set up a samba server to allow this printer to be shared to Windows computers. But I have no Windows, so I don't see why I'd take that route. I have googled everywhere, but I can't find documentation about how to print from cups to cups using linux anywhere. I have tried installing the remote printer on various other machines, using ipp, http, socket, lpd, what-have-you. But when I'm done all I get to see is that the host is unavailable and that printing will be tried again in 30 seconds. LogLevel is set to debug, but there's not a mention of a request to print from other machines that I can find. Sometimes, when I still have some printjobs in queue and modify the printer, I get the message that a certain % of the printjob is finished, but it never seems to reach the printer and the status changes back soon to Host unavailable. end quote Have you started cupsd on the client machine? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer
I'll have to check on the exact position of Allow from All. I don't have telnetd installed, so that's a no go. I can only open localhost:631 on the cupsd machine itself, I can't get there from another computer (and yes, I'm NOT using localhost to try:) ), it says connection refused. I've had a hunch for a while that that may be related to the problem. But now, how to fix it:) Thanks, Vincent You might also check the Deny directive. I seem to recall that there is a line that determines the order of these two. If you have it set allow, Deny and Deny is set Deny from All, of course it would simply block everybody. I seem to recall that I only made one or two simple changes to the configuration file to allow printing. If you like, I'll send you the file after I'm home tonight so that you can check the differences or simply use it as you choose. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Printing to CUPS from another linux computer
One more thought. Have you checked the logs to see what cups has to say? I seem to recall that cups has fairly useful logging by default, and it may give you some good information to go by. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed
Hello, I don't understand your answer Nicolas. Because My bus is 33MHz I get 27MB/s. I understand that. What I'm asking is if the UDMA(100) means that the HD is capable of 100MB/s and the bus holds it back. Does it mean that with a newer motherboard my HD will work much faster? Yuval Scharf I think that you're stuck on the 33MHz. Don't be. I believe that they all operate at 33MHz where they are UDMA 100, UDMA 133, etc. 33MHz is the speed that this bus operates at. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] IDE bus speed
Rex Young wrote: I think that you're stuck on the 33MHz. Don't be. I believe that they all operate at 33MHz where they are UDMA 100, UDMA 133, etc. 33MHz is the speed that this bus operates at. I think you are wrong too :-P The size of the IDE bus ( 16 bits ) didn't change since quitte a while, the only trick they found to increase data rate is to increase the bus frequecy as well. You're right. The IDE bus speed varies, while the PCI interface of that bus operates at 33MHz. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to correct error in grub.conf
-Original Message- From: Ware, John [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 3:11 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] How to correct error in grub.conf Hi all, I am new to gentoo and made a blunder during the installation of grub. I created grub.conf with nano -w /boot/grub/grub.conf as directed in the x86-install page but I saved it with a typo. When I boot I notice that the entries I made had an error. I use my trusty recovery disk to boot to grub and now want to correct my errors in grub.conf. The question is: using grub, how does one edit and save grub.conf? I can cat (hd0,0)/boot/grub/grub.conf to view my blunder . thanks john ACK. Please don't send e-mail to the list in html format. It sucks to work with and many won't read it. I've never tried to work in grub's limited environment. I just pull out the handy livecd, boot it, and use that much more robust environment to make changes. It's quite easy and won't take much longer. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/checkroot cannot remount root fs
Ok, good. I will look when I have a spare 0.5 hours or something as well. Mostly I wanted to know I had not pulled a thinko. Since I know it's not just me now, I'll devote a little bit of time to it later tonight. Maybe between us we'll figure it out in short order. I'm not sure that it makes much difference, but are you also using Reiserfs on your root partition? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Idea
eList, Hi everybody.. Every time I use emerge -S to look for something I've got to wait an eternity for results to appear.. so I feed up with this and I was thinking to turn the whole portage system (the pseudo database I mean) into mysql, what do you think about that? As far I could see It's not so hard to translate. In this moment I'm writing a bash script (no pyhton knowledge sorry) to try to full the mysql database with the portage data. I think that if you do a quick search through the forums, you will find a project called porageSQL. I saw a blurb in the last 2 or 3 days about this, but I don't recall where. breakmygentoo.net maybe? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/checkroot cannot remount root fs
I have baselayout-1.8.6.10, kernel 2.6.0-test3-mm1, and util-linux-2.12. Upon installing util-linux-2.12, I was no longer able to remount my root filesystem for checkroot to work on boot. I really should be able to just mount -n -o remount,ro / or use /dev/root, or whatever is in /proc/mounts, /etc/fstab or /etc/mtab. Only when I use the old-style block device name (ie /dev/hde5) do I get something other than device not mounted or some such. If I use that, I get complaints of the filesystem being busy. Has anyone else encountered this problem? Yes. This also ocurred using 2.6.0-test2-mm5. I can remount it manually, but that's a little annoying. When it prompts for the password for maintenance, I enter it then issue: mount -o remount,rw /dev/root /. I've also used /dev/hde7 to reference the device when remounting it and had no problem. I was intending to try to get the the root (no pun intended) of the matter sometime in the next few days. I spent quite a while searching through the forums, finding no solution there. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Well, my RAID array is screwed (was df != fdisk)
It turns out that for some reason mkreiserfs only allocated 60G on my 120G Raid array. I rebooted on my 1.4 LiveCD and attempted to debug_reiserfs my array, but wound up getting a screen full of I/O errors on one of my drives (the first one of the array). I suspect it's not actually the drive, but the driver that's at fault. In any case, I'm completely fed up with the Promise driver and the ataraid functionality (or lack thereof) in the kernel. hdparm can't read the array, mkreiserfs can't seem to make use of more than one drive's worth of space, etc. It's a disaster. After spending weeks of calendar time and dozens of hours trying to get it all to work, I'm backing off. I think I can tell the TX4 RAID card to not bother with an array and just run the 4 drives as independent, normal drives. Hopefully that will allow the kernel to better deal with them. Then, I'll attempt to use evms to cobble them together into a software RAID 5 configuration. My only regret is that I'll no longer be using the RAID card to its full extent. However, I've also read some interesting opinions that talk about how a low-end RAID card (such as the tx4) can be a bottleneck on higher-end systems. Mine's a dual-mp 1.4Ghz (1600+) configuration. Such opinions say that on such a multi-processor, relatively fast system software RAID can actually be *faster* than relying on a card such as the tx4. I hope that's true! Eric I've had good luck with Linux software raid arrays. It's so durn easy, I don't see any reason to bother with the low end RAID cards. (The more expensive cards can offer advantages not otherwise available.) I would wonder about a software RAID 5 array, however. Doesn't RAID 5 involve a fairly robust algorithm that might drag the processor down a bit? I don't really know and am somewhat curious about this, as I have been considering the same thing on a file server. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/checkroot cannot remount root fs
Yup. I can duplicate my root on ext[23] and try that too. hmm...I hadn't considered that. Well, I'm not sure that I have sufficient space available in any regard. good luck, and tell me how it goes. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] /etc/init.d/checkroot cannot remount root fs
With one of the 2.4 series kernels, I noticed that I could not issue 'mount -o remount,rw /'. I had to issue the full command. Same thing here. If it isn't the full command, it won't work. With the 2.6.0-test1 series kernel I could not use any of the devices (/dev/sda3, /dev/sda3 or /dev/scsi/host0/bus0/target0/lun0/part3) in /etc/fstab or on the command line to mount the root partition. I've used /dev/root and /dev/hda7. Both have worked without issue. I only started using /dev/root because I noticed that this was how it was listed in /etc/mtab. I think that it's also worth noting that I've tried fsck.reiserfs --check and turned up no trouble. I've also mounted the drive using the 2.4.20 gs kernel that was on the drive previously with no trouble, and finally there is no trouble with mounting the drive with whichever livecd I had handy. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Well, my RAID array is screwed (was df != fdisk )
Agreed. I have three systems right now that are fully RAIDed, one a high use server, a personal server, and my personal workstation, all of which use software raid, one of which uses a PCI-IDE card (promise tx-2000 or something) to add the extra channels that are needed. I use one of Promise's cheaper controllers to add a few channels and it works flawlessly. Not noticably. The hdparm numbers are a bit lower than say, RAID0 (obviously) but faster than each drive individually. I haven't noticed any processor lag on either system I have that uses RAID5. Thanks. I'll proceed on the assumption that I won't have any problems and order my drives sometime in the next couple of weeks. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] GTK downgrade in emerge world
Everytime I do an: emerge -upv world I get this in the resultant list: [ebuildU ] x11-libs/gtk+-1.2.10-r10 [2.2.1] +nls Since I'm not looking to downgrade GTK from 2.2.1 to 1.2.10, I can never just do an emerge -u world. A couple of questions about this: 1) Why does it want to do this and why is it not showing up as a downgrade (eg, [ebuildUD])? 2) How do I stop it from doing this so I can do a full emerge -u world without fretting that it's gonna drop gtk2. slots. Both will reside on your system happily. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] decent browser?
with few dependancies, tabbed viewing and most of all mouse gestures which mouse gestures? Sounds interesting. I might have to read a bit about this. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!
This isn't a cure for your problem. rant Over the several years running gentoo, I've seen more things screwed up by 'emerge baselayout' than I care to remember. I always (and this is no exception) let baselayout age a few months before adapting it. /rant With that machine, I tend to be somewhat conservative, but I was having another problem (as yet unresolved) that I was hoping to repair by simply updating the machine. When the problem with baselayout (and devfs?) came up, I tried rolling back both baselayout and devfs with no luck. ugh. I've been using the machine this way for two days now and see no trouble at all, so I'm just going to wait and hope that a repair comes down the line. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] reiserfs prevents harddrive suspend of my notebook
Every few seconds something accesses my harddrive, therefore a suspend (hdparm -S1 /dev/hda) is impossible. I have a notebook, so I would really like to spin down the drive for less heat, noise and a longer battery life. I suspect the filesystem reiserfs to do these annoying accesses. It is a journaling filessystem and I guess that ext3 would do that also. Somewhere I found a tip to mount with noatime, but that didn't help. So what are my options? I read about noflushd which reduces drive access to a minimum, but only works with ext2. I would prefer to keep the journaling file system. Anyone solved that problem? Will reiser4 be better in that view? I seem to recall that this will happen with fam-oss if you haven't enabled inode monitoring in the kernel. Is this possible? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [LONG] New baselayout: Errors everywhere!!!
Hello! I had just emerged latest stable baselayout-1.8.6.8-r1, did etc-update, carefully updated all 23 files and rebooted. And I received a whole bunch of errors. Please, someone help. Here they are: During boot: * Calculating module dependencies modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/hd/cd modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/ide/host0/cd modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/cd modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/scsi/host0/generic modprobe: Can't locate module /dev/input Not really a help, but I did the same thing with the same result. They don't seem to hinder operation of the box at all, though, so I was going to be patient and see if updating baselayout in a day or two fixes things. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Hmm, that's weird. You might run a file system check with whatever tools reiserfs has and repair if necessary. For the benefit of those who may have this problem later, I had been leaning toward Brett's suggestion and that's what I did: reiserfsck --rebuild-tree /dev/md0 This was after I used the --check and --fix-fixable options. --rebuild-tree was what finally did the trick. Just for background, this is ReiserFS on a striped software RAID array. Can others point to problems under these conditions? I'm somewhat concerned because I suffered a different failure using ReiserFS about two years ago. I'd since read that it was production-ready, but I'm a bit worried by what just happened. comments? On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:39:16 -0700 Rex Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Brett, Thanks for the response. I suppose that I should have said something about that. root. Also I had no trouble reading other files under /usr/portage/dev-perl. -rex -Original Message- From: brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Glad things are back to normal. Asking about a file system is like asking about religion G. I've heard good and bad on resierfs. Personally I use XFS and have been very happy with it. I'll look at it. I used ReiserFS because small-file performance is supposed to be better. Reliability, however I've decided will be my preference for this firewall/router/file server. (Yes, I know that the functions should be broken up. And I will, later.) It's too bad that I didn't decide this in the first place. Now I have to think about some strategy to back up so that I can migrate to a new fs. ugh. Thanks for the help. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] non-gentoo-specific question: browser modification
Is it possible to setup Mozilla(Firebird) such that websites think it is, say, Netscape 4.7x or Netscape6? I came across this problem on a website recently (it wanted me to be running netscape 4.7x or ie); I sent the webmaster a nice little email, but as a temporary fix, I would like Mozilla-Firebird to fake being a version of Netscape. I seem to recall that Opera can fake this rather nicely. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] gentoo on a 486
note the kernel mount the HD fine, just no init scripts are executed and no prompt is given are there any isses with gentoo and running it on a 486? the gcc on 1.4_rc4 and 486 chips? or the compiled code on a 486. I know there are a few bugs with compiling gentoo on a 486 with gcc in 1.4_rc4 (courtesy of the bugtracking system) so I used the chrooted enviroment. some assistance or pointers? should I rebuild with i386 ? or withing -fomit-frame-pointer or remove -03 h...I can't really say what the problem might be. Is it possible that this is a grub configuration problem? Perhaps you pointed grub to the kernel properly, but not to the filesystem root correctly? Sorry, but you don't have many hints there. I built a system for a 486 using gcc 2.95 about a year ago and had no problem at all. Things worked just fine. I even had X running on it for a while. Neat. Working from memory, I would say that the flags were: -march=i486 -O2 Pretty simple. I don't think that this is your problem, though. I can't imagine that optimizations would lead to a failed init. Do you see any sort of an error there that you can pass on? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge help
I'm having trouble with mplayer since I installed my ATI Radeon 8500dv video card. I thought I'd try to recompile mplayer and all the dependencies. Is there a way I can tell emerge to re-compile all of mplayer's dependencies as well as mplayer? emerge -p --emptytree mplayer should do the job. I think that you'll be surprised by the length of the list, though. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Hello All, I tried this on the forums yesterday, but as is typical for my luck on the forums, I received no response. I'm having a bit of trouble syncing. During an emerge sync I receive an error: readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/Manifest: Permission denied readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/files/digest-Array-Window-0.1: Permission denied readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/Changelog: Permission denied I tried to remove the files, and received a similar error. Checking permissions again returns the same error. And finally using chmod returns a similar error. Reiserfs is the filesystem I'm using. Frustration abounds. Can anybody offer some advice? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Brett, Thanks for the response. I suppose that I should have said something about that. root. Also I had no trouble reading other files under /usr/portage/dev-perl. -rex -Original Message- From: brett holcomb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 11:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] filesystem error? Are you running as root or as a user? On Tue, 8 Jul 2003 11:33:18 -0700 Rex Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I tried this on the forums yesterday, but as is typical for my luck on the forums, I received no response. I'm having a bit of trouble syncing. During an emerge sync I receive an error: readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/Manifest: Permission denied readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/files/digest-Array-Window-0.1: Permission denied readlink dev-perl/Array-Window/Changelog: Permission denied I tried to remove the files, and received a similar error. Checking permissions again returns the same error. And finally using chmod returns a similar error. Reiserfs is the filesystem I'm using. Frustration abounds. Can anybody offer some advice? -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] filesystem error?
Rex, (It's strange to address anybody else that way.) Can you post the output of: bash# id bash# df /usr/portage/dev-perl/Array-Window bash# ls -alh /usr/portage/dev-perl/Array-Window `type -p emerge` You say you received an error trying to chmod -- it would help to know the actual command you typed and the exact error you received. [Not including this kind of information is a pet peeve of mine, actually.] I can't send any of this information right now as I'm not at the machine, I'm at work. As to the chmod command, I used chmod 777 /usr/portage/dev-perl/Array-Window/Manifest and received a message that ended with permission denied. No matter what I do with these files (as root) I receive permission denied. I'll handle the other things you suggested tonight. -rex (I have never started and ended a letter or message with the same name:-) ) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] dosemu1.1.4 1.1.5 keeps crashing at compile time
yes. Just last night. I was intending to check and see whether there were any bug reports sometime today, but haven't yet had a chance to do so. -rex -Original Message- From: Svein Harald Soleim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 12:29 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] dosemu1.1.4 1.1.5 keeps crashing at compile time -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 When I tried to compile dosemu1.1.4 or 1.1.5 I get this error: make[1]: *** [install] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/dosemu-1.1.5/work/dosemu-1.1.5/src' make: *** [install] Error 2 !!! ERROR: app-emulation/dosemu-1.1.5 failed. !!! Function src_install, Line 49, Exitcode 2 !!! (no error message) anyone else get this error? - -- gnuPG key: ID 915B0745 at http://pgp.mit.edu/ http://www.fribyte.uib.no/~svein/PublicKey.asc Key fingerprint = 0123 B179 0994 F5C7 12D3 F253 E0AA 6A67 915B 0745 Registered Linux User #319622 'The maths is easy,' said Chaos. AH? WELL, MATHS, said Death, dismissively. GENERALLY I NEVER GET MUCH FURTHER THAN SUBTRACTION. Svein Harald Soleim -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQE/BIPx4KpqZ5FbB0URAvABAJ98ahdvCsprsHWUODjfQfs0kn3GbwCfcM/v I30aS1h/ZzeVY3MPjj85Mrs= =vdYR -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Windows to linux... What was that app?
Insert an image into a .doc. Try to open that .doc with OpenOffice. Open and shut case. I've tried getting my father to use Linux. The drawbacks and the reason why he went back to Windows was because of compatibility with other computers. He's a business man, he needs to receive docs, etc on a regular basis. Give another example, beyond .docs, because linux has that covered. See above, no we do not have it covered. Just what is open and shut about this case. I just did it. No Problem. Don't get defensive when somebody refers to a 13 year old kid as inexperienced. It's generally quite true. The clearest memory I have of 15 was that I was a cocksure little bastard sure that I knew all there was. It didn't take very much longer to realize that I knew nothing. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] adsl_help
Hi Rex, How do I emerge if there is no connection? Rex Young wrote: emerge adsl-setup adsl-setup ok, I was wrong. it's: emerge rp-pppoe adsl-setup Check. It may already be installed. If not, there are a couple of ways around it. 1. You could simply download the necessary file(s) from the machine you're at now, and transfer them by disk to the machine you're trying to set up. 2. Boot with whichever cd you used to setup your system and run adsl-setup from there. Then, chroot into your existing installation just as the setup instructions showed you, then emerge rp-ppoe. Hope this helps. ps The install instructions and the text file daniel sent will be good references while you're setting up. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] XD2
bochs? vmware? -rex -Original Message- From: Dan Fairs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, June 09, 2003 11:47 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] XD2 Hi, I'd like to play with the new Ximian Desktop. Since Gentoo isn't a supported distro (due to its merciful choice not to use rpm) I'm looking for a way to install a supported distro without repartitioning. I was thinking of doing something like creating a directory to be the 'root' of (for the sake of argument) a Red Hat install, chrooting into it, running the Red Hat installer, and then configuring GRUB to have an option for the Red Hat system. Would this work (probably not...)? Or should I be looking at something like User-Mode Linux (hey, why not integrate playing with a load of other stuff to get this working ;) ? Does anyone have any input on how this might be done without repartitioning? Cheers, Dan -- Dan Fairs [EMAIL PROTECTED] spiderplant.net -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Advice needed: downgrade from ~86 to 86?
Am Mo, 2003-06-09 um 22.13 schrieb Andy Arbon: If I change ~86 to 86 in make.conf and do an emerge -u world, will this safely roll my machine back to the stable branch? Has anyone done this, and are there any reasons it shouldn't work? Hi Andy, I've done that, using emerge -e world which eventually recompiled everything. It took forever... If compilation failes at some point, you can restart it using emerge --resume. Have fun, - Christian Is emerge -e world really necessary? I would think that emerge -u world would downgrade the packages which should be. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device
/etc/fstab from the root I can't mount: /dev/hd1/boot ext2 noauto,noatime 1 1 /dev/hd3/ reiserfs noatime 0 0 /dev/hd2noneswapsw 0 0 /dev/cdroms/cdrom0 /mnt/cdrom iso9660 noauto,ro 0 0 proc/proc procdefaults 0 0 tmpfs /dev/shmtmpfs defaults 0 0 I think that if you double-check things, you will find that you do not have /dev/hd1, /dev/hd2 nor /dev/hd3. You probably have /dev/hda1, /dev/hda2 and /dev/hda3. Not that there is an a added between the numeral and the letter d. Hope it helps. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device
thanks for spotting that. I've fixed it, but I had it right in grub. The problem is before it even managed to get to fstab. I looked back at your original e-mail, and I'll be durned if I can see what might be wrong. Sorry I can't help. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cannot open root device
I don't think it could be in my case, I don't have any extra controllers. I do have USB and 1394, but no devices plugged in. I wonder if they could cause a problem? nah. I wouldn't think that this would be a problem. Given that the bootcd loads the drive as /dev/hda would tend to negate my previous suggestion, anyway. Did you specify the correct chipset when you were setting up the kernel? This is absolutely the last possibility I can think of. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] pkg's safe for removing ?
mv /usr/portage/distfiles /tmp
mkdir /usr/portage/distfiles
FETCHCOMMAND='mv /tmp/distfiles/${FILE} ${DISTDIR}' emerge -fe world
rm -rf /tmp/distfiles
This should be about as perfect as you're likely to see.
Unfortunately it
does take a while to run. If you have leaf packages that aren't in your
world file I guess you could add qpkg -I -nc|xargs.
-Heschi
Thanks. I've always been reluctant to get rid of the sourcefiles, because
a hardware failure (or a new system) will take several days to download on
my dialup connection. I can't think of any flaws in this one. At worst,
it'll
only miss a few things, which can be easily replaced. Thanks Again!
-rex
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RE: [gentoo-user] stage3 install
If were to install gentoo from stage3, can I run emerge -e world to recompile every using my optimizations and USE flags? yes. it's always good to add the -p flag like so: emerge -pe world. -p means pretend, so that you get a listing of what will be emerged. -e is the shortform of --emptytree. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Dialup sucks, but I need gentoo ...
... at home, built from stage1. Is there an .iso/script/etc somewhere that I can use to figure out what packages/updates/etc I will need to build each stage, download them at work, and, say burn 'em to a cd, bring em home, and move them somewhere where the stage-n installers would find/use them? Also, as goofy as this sounds, and as awesome as gentoo is, it really needs an automated installation tool. I say this, 'cause if the answer to my first question is sorry, no. then it's going to take an entire weekend to download, compile and install everything and I can't spend all my time babysitting it. I got dialup. http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic.php?t=2022 Just figure out what you want to install and paste what you want into one long emerge command after building the basic system and updating it. If something breaks, it will stop and wait on you to fix, if it doesn't, it continues building and installing. emerge -f packagename is your friend. This will fetch all of the files you need for a particular package in one fell swoop, so that you don't need to keep your connection open. I am also cautious about removing files I've downloaded, so that I needn't re-download them. The bootstrap script is a bit of a problem, because it downloads one file at a time, but it's not too bad. (The first installation I did annoyed the hell out of my wife, because I kept the phones tied up for so long.) After I finished bootstrapping, I simply type: emerge -f packagename emerge packagename just before I go to bed, then finish whatever changes are needed in the morning. No babysitting. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re-bootstrapping
Is there a --force option or something I can use to force a re-emerge? If not, what is the approved method of doing this? emerge --pretend --emptytree world or emerge -pe world Obviously, you should drop the pretend option when you are sure that you want to do this. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Adventures starting ALSA
1.8.5* releases, since the 1.8.6* releases have it at /var/lib/.init.d. I was using 1.4_rc4, because this was what the install doc told me to use. If the startup scripts are at /var/lib/init.d in newer releases, that't fine with me :-). All i want is a /mnt that i can use to my liking, without breaking start/stop scripts. Heinrich the 1.8.6 release he's talking about is for baselayout. This is still in testing, I think, as none of my machines are using a 1.8.6 release of baselayout. I don't know when to expect this later version. -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Cable Modem Configuration
-Original Message- From: Matt Neimeyer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, March 28, 2003 10:19 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] Cable Modem Configuration I'm trying to set up a Gentoo Router / File Server / Firewall... I've got multiple NIC's in the box (one for each port, to each room in the house). However, that leaves me one short to connect the cable modem. I connected it via USB and using the CDCEther driver (as a module) I do see the following in my dmesg log... In my /etc/conf.d/net I have all (eth0 to eth5) of my cards configured to use DHCP (which the cable modem will need in the end). However, eth5 is saying can't start or some other words for I failed but I'm not going to tell you why. I don't see anything in the logs though... any ideas? emmmA generally less expensive, and easier solution to using 4 ethernet cards would be to use a hub or a switch (switches allow full-duplex operation and generally result in better network performance). I've seen 4-port switches for as little as a dollar or two, and good name brand 7-port switches for $30 recently. Unless you have some good reason to do this the way you have, I would really recommend you purchase a switch, as it would reduce configuration nightmares (and also leave you with a port into which you can plug your modem). -rex -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] how to disable PAM
try emerge -up --emptytree world (emerge -eup world accomplishes exactly the same thing) Why do you want to disable PAM? -rex -Original Message- From: Tim Ruehsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 7:48 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] how to disable PAM How do I disable pam (USE=-pam?) and how to recompile everything? just disabling in USE and emerge -up world does nothing. Is it recommended or do I run into trouble without pam? Regards, Tim -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] managing shared distfiles
I have much the same problem, but don't know how to handle it. I saw a script on the forums for handling this, but it seemed that this was intended for use on only one machine. With differing packages installed on different machines, the problem seems (to me) insurmountable. I hope somebody else thinks differently, though. -Original Message- From: Shane Hickey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 24, 2003 12:53 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [gentoo-user] managing shared distfiles Howdy all, Right now, I have my main desktop gentoo box sharing it's /usr/portage/distfiles with my other 4 gentoo boxes via nfs. This is working good, but I want a remove stale tarballs. That is, I need something that would go through and remove older versions of packages if there were multiple versions. I only need to keep the most recent package to share to the other boxes. I'm not really explaining this well, but if anyone has written something (or knows of something) to do this, that'd be great. Otherwise, I might take a crack at a bash script to do it? -- Shane Hickey : Nerd http://www.nerddiary.org GPG KeyID: 777CBF3F Key fingerprint: 254F B2AC 9939 C715 278C DA95 4109 9F69 777C BF3F Listening to: Velvet Underground - What Goes On -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Internet-less box?
Best to do this from stage 3, as the CD will have some pre-compiled binaries for you. See the install instructions. emerge -p packagename will not always tell you which *files* will be needed for instalation of said package. I seem to recall seeing a script in the forums for such. You would probably do well to search there. -Original Message- From: Eugene Van Dam [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 10:01 AM To: Michael Denio Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo on a Internet-less box? Ah yes. Let me then just get this clear. Get the distfiles, get the latest portage snapshot. Untar these into /usr/portage/distfiles and /usr/portage/packages. Then when i get to the point where the install.txt say: Starting from Stage2 #emerge -p system [list packages to be installed] #emerge system it will just automatically see that the portage and distfiles are already on the box and not try to do a download? What about when I try it from Stage3? Starting from Stage3 #emerge sync #emerge -up world [list packages] #emerge -u world So if I understand correctly, with my manually downloaded and copied files, I will not do a emerge sync (which just downloads the files), i will just do emerge system or emerge -u world? I won't need to set it not to go look on some server for files? Also, when at I later on get a new portages snapshot, I will just download this and untar to /usr/portage/packages and do emerge -u world ? Thanks for your time Eugene - Quoting Michael Denio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You could go to ftp.ibiblio.org:/pub/Linux/distributions/gentoo/distfiles and pull the bz2's from there Eugene Van Dam wrote: Thanks for the reply, only one other problem I didn't state. The box with internet access is not a gentoo box... I have access from a Win2K account and/or from a rh7.3 account... Is there another way? Eugene Quoting Michael Denio [EMAIL PROTECTED]: You can use emerge -f on the machine with internet access and place the downloaded files from /usr/portage/distfiles into the same directory on the machine without internet access. I assume there is also ftp access to the tarballs so you could use that instead of emerge -f Eugene Van Dam wrote: Hi I recently got hold of a live-cd containg gentoo stage1,2 and 3 tarballs and a few packages. I read through the /usr/share/doc/install.txt and also read the portage manual and guide. I find the whole portages/emerge idea very interesting and would like to give it a try, except I have the little problem of no internet access on the box I'm installing Gentoo. I have internet access elsewhere, so my question is how would I go about installing and keeping up to date, my gentoo box at home. There surely must be a way to set up /etc/make.conf or whatever to lookup the files i separetly downloaded and copied to /some/dir/. emerge sync, emerge -up world , ect all want to connect to the gentoo mirrors. Any help? Thanks Eugene -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ftp/iptables always in emerge world
Perhaps a better way might be to ask the developers about creating a separate protected list, the sole content of which would be exclusions. This might be helpful for anybody trying to strip an installation to the lightest weight possible (and keep it that way). It's just a thought, and might show my ignorance. -rex -Original Message- From: William Hubbs [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 19, 2003 11:17 AM To: Kurt V. Hindenburg Cc: Gentoo Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ftp/iptables always in emerge world Hi Kurt, If someone else out here knows something I don't, feel free to jump in. The system packages are part of the profile for your architecture which is part of the portage tree. You could remove the * from the ftp and iptables lines in /etc/make.profile/packkages, but it will be put back in the next time you do an emerge sync, so there really isn't a way to get rid of them other than to ask the developers to take them out of the system profile. William On Wed, Mar 19, 2003 at 12:51:28PM -0500, Kurt V. Hindenburg wrote: On Wednesday 19 March 2003 12:08 pm, William Hubbs wrote: | Hi all, | | Yes, iptables and ftp are in system. | Next question then is why? Not every system needs them...seems rather odd...anyway to prevent them from showing up in emerge world? -- Kurt --- There is no good and evil; there is only power. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ASLA vs Gnome
nope. nary a problem (so far) on 4 different machines. -Original Message- From: Marc Tessier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 18, 2003 6:45 PM To: gentoo-user Mailing list Subject: [gentoo-user] ASLA vs Gnome Hi all I been experiencing Gnome freezing when playing sound from the sound properties dialog of Gnome. I am using the ALSA driver with the ALSA-OSS emulator. Anyone experience the same problem as me? Marc -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT] US's foreign policy (was: installing gentoo without the internet)
hear-hear. This has no place on a technical forum. -Original Message- From: Michael Atamas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 17, 2003 7:12 PM To: Ted Ozolins Cc: Gentoo Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] US's foreign policy (was: installing gentoo without the internet) Take political conversation to a political mailing list. I get enough mail as it is. -- Mike Atamas aelfgar at aelfgar.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] configuration utility?
etc-update Yep. Thanks. I read something about emerge checksuming these and automerging the ones that haven't been edited. Is that a reality? Just for 1.4? I'm still running 1.2 until 1.4 is formally released. emm..There's no real reason not to be updating packages. The version number refers largely to the installation CD. You can find a good deal of information on both the list archives and by searching the forums. I think that the files which are automatically merged are few in number. I seem to recall a message referring to trivial changes, but cannot be definitive on this. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
