Re: SPAM-LOW: Re: [gentoo-user] [VERY OT] A Windows shell Im creating
On Wed, 30 Mar 2005, Ian K wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: While we're on the subject of VB let me ask a question. I'm curious: Is there a clone of VB6 for Gentoo? I know about Gambas, but Gambas doesn't have a lot of the features I've grown used to in VB over the past several years, and I don't find the help system very helpful... Have you looked into Mono? I heard something about version 1.18 being in the portage tree, now...? First, I assume since he references Gambas that he's looking for a RAD tool. Mono is not a RAD tool but a compiler/interpreter set. Second, Mono is in portage. It's for C# not BASIC. Ric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] I need help getting new install working
On Tue, 1 Feb 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Can someone point me in the right direction to finding the fix for getting the modules to compile. Error messages are always helpful. Usually kernel build problems are a result of dependency errors. You didn't include an option that's required for the one you want to build. The 2.6 series is much better at this than older kernel revs. Ric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Schafer Frank wrote: What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh. Is that the only reason you want a SysV init? A bit odd, especially given: ls -la /bin/sh lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 Jul 1 2004 /bin/sh - bash Ric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] WiFi success story :|
On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Ric Messier wrote: On Tue, 11 Jan 2005, Schafer Frank wrote: What will I have to do to change from simpleinit to sysv init? Would it be sufficiennt to emerge sysv? Will I have to unmerge simpleinit? I'd like to have my initscripts #!/bin/sh. Is that the only reason you want a SysV init? A bit odd, especially given: Thinking about this further, I'm even less sure about the problem you are trying to solve. You might check to see whether sysvinit is already installed as I seem to recall it's part of the base system. I know it's installed on my system and I never asked for it explicitly. Ric -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Life after xfree
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, David Hart wrote: and further down the GPL: ^ 4. You may not copy, modify, sublicense, or distribute the Program ^ except as expressly provided under this License. Any attempt otherwise ^ to copy, modify, sublicense or distribute the Program is void, and will ^ automatically terminate your rights under this License. However, parties ^ who have received copies, or rights, from you under this License will ^ not have their licenses terminated so long as such parties remain in ^ full compliance. It doesn't say that if you don't comply with the license that you must open up your (closed) source, merely that your rights to copy, modify and distribute the software are void. You're missing the point. If you don't comply with the license, you don't get to use the bits of code that you wanted to that fall under the GPL. Otherwise, you are in violation of the GPL and that falls under copyright law. If source isn't opened to comply with the GPL and you continue to use the GPL'd software as part of your work, then the GPL doesn't really have teeth because it hasn't been/can't be enforced. Enforced means you need to comply with the provisions set forth in the GPL as noted previously. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] vmware
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, Scharf Yuval wrote: No Ric, Identity theft is not stealing. It is a term made up by the american media. Still, it is a horribe crime. Oh, I understand now. You're an idiot. Try telling your little tale above to someone who has been through it. It is not a term made up by american media. It is a real and legitimate crime. And yes, it IS stealing. It is taking property (both physical and not physical) that DOES NOT BELONG TO YOU. I'm sorry you don't seem to grasp the concept that not all property is physical. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Life after xfree
On Wed, 3 Mar 2004, David Hart wrote: FUD FUD FUD FUD NONSENSE and more FUD!!! Show me where it says in the GPL that if you infringe you have to open up closed source? Hmm ... let's see. Wasn't hard. It's in the Preamble. For example, if you distribute copies of such a program, whether gratis or for a fee, you must give the recipients all the rights that you have. You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. And you must show them these terms so they know their rights. If you derive from GPL code, you have to provide all the rights to folks you distribute to that you had -- You must make sure that they, too, receive or can get the source code. I would have that that was plain enough. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] No sound on laptop
On Thu, 26 Feb 2004, Collin Starkweather wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $ ls -al /dev/sound total 0 drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 . drwxr-xr-x1 root root0 Dec 31 1969 .. [EMAIL PROTECTED] olsonco $ Where do I go from here? I'm stumped. Have you set volume levels with a mixer of some sort? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] perfomance 2.6.3 = 2.4 - A-FRIGGIN-Men!
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Ian Truelsen wrote: Excuse me for interrupting, but does it make a lot of sense to be benchmarking what is essentially a development kernel? I would think that when they are in the single digits in releases, they are simply trying to make sure that everything works. Once the 2.6 tree has been around for a while they will work on speed tweaks. I beg to differ here. The 2.5 series was for making sure everything worked. Once they renumbered to 2.6, it became production-ready. I don't understand how commercial software gets sneering comments about waiting for the first couple of patchsets before using it but open source can be apologized for when you have to do the exact same thing. Sorry for the rant but sometimes what appears to be hypocrisy just drives me nuts. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless keys
Duh! Went through the wireless.opts file a little more carefully this time and found the section at the top that matches everything that I forgot to remove. I think you mentioned it previously but I was thinking of the essidany case. Seems to have worked. :-) Of course, I'm remote again and forgot to rc-update add sshd before I left so I could get back in to check after the reboot. Will know when I return at lunch, though. Ric On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Wazow wrote: Ric, Ric Messier wrote: Sort of. Depending on the driver you are using, the init software looks in different places. Need to get home to go digging through /etc again. Damn work! :-) Good Luck! I would be grateful to see your results in this thread. Andrzej -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New Install
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Rob Barnett wrote: I can not find the bzImage after I do a manual make. I mount /boot myself... How do I turn the kernel into a bzImage? bzImage is in /usr/src/linux/boot/arch/arch or something like that. You can also do a make install and have it put everything into place for you. Ric - Original Message - From: Ernie Schroder [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, February 12, 2004 11:14 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install On Thursday 12 February 2004 11:57 am, Jose González Gómez wrote: Rob, Manual compilation or using genkernel? What about error messages? Have you double checked everything is fine in /boot? Regards Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless keys
On Thu, 12 Feb 2004, Wazow wrote: Yeah, That is what I meant. It took me a couple of hours of damn work a month ago :) I think this section is actually pretty well hidden in the jungle of comments and many people overlooks it... Agreed. I don't remember having to take that block out previously. Of course, that was a very long time ago and my memory isn't what it used to be. :-D Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Wireless keys
Hey, What would be the location for wireless settings with a Prism2 pcmcia card and the kernel drivers? Setting them in /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts hasn't gotten me anywhere. I still need to set them by hand. Thanks, Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless keys
Wazow wrote: This seems to work for me. I set KEY=... in /etc/pcmcia/wireless.opts/. Perhaps you forgot to comment out the first entry which matches anything, end prevents the case from proceeding in further branches? Does your card work in non-encrypted mode? Is that only the keys which do not work? Does anything else you set in this section of wireless.opts has an effect? Nope. Didn't forget to comment out that section. In fact, I set my key there and it doesn't take. It's always worked for me there before but on this recent re-build of my laptop, suddenly it stopped working. Of course, this is my first successful shot at the kernel drivers (had always used the pcmcia-cs drivers before). Friend of mine said it should be set in /etc/wlan or /etc/conf.d/wlan or something like that with the kernel drivers. Are you using the kernel drivers or the pcmcia-cs drivers? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless keys
Wazow wrote: I do not think the problem you have is driver related, as you write that it works when set up manually (iwconfig?). Looks like something wrong with hotplug/pcmcia setup. Are you on 2.6.2? I heard some rumours that PCMCIA support in this one does not quite work. I am on 2.6.1 at present. I don't think the problem I have is driver-related either. Clearly the drivers work because I can pass traffic. The problem I have is not knowing where I need to put the configuration information. Different drivers look in different places for their configs. I think the wlan-ng drivers changed to look into /etc/conf.d for their configuration a while back but I could be mistaken. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless keys
Sort of. Depending on the driver you are using, the init software looks in different places. Need to get home to go digging through /etc again. Damn work! :-) Ric -- Original Message -- From: Wazow [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wed, 11 Feb 2004 22:16:02 +0100 Ric Messier wrote: I don't think the problem I have is driver-related either. Clearly the drivers work because I can pass traffic. The problem I have is not knowing where I need to put the configuration information. Different drivers look in different places for their configs. I think the wlan-ng drivers changed to look into /etc/conf.d for their configuration a while back but I could be mistaken. I might be mistaken, but I do not think that drivers look for config in places like /etc/... . They just expose some interface to set this config. This is the wrapper config software (of pcmcia-cs, wlan-ng, etc) that passes this info from /etc to drivers via some /proc or similar interface. So if you run pcmcia-cs, then my guess is still in /etc/pcmcia. The best thing is to see if any other, less vulnarable parameters work there (like changin Essid). Andrzej -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] telnet setup
You've bound it to the localhost interface on port 23 not your external interface on port 23. You need to bind it to your 192.168.x.x address. Ric -- Original Message -- From: David Obwaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Tue, 10 Feb 2004 16:41:05 +0100 * Arne Vogel [EMAIL PROTECTED] [02/10/04]: Do man sshd_config and look for ListenAddress. Adjust /etc/ssh/sshd_config accordingly and start/restart sshd. I've now put 'Port 23' and 'ListenAdress localhost:23' into sshd_config. When I do 'ssh -p 23 127.0.0.1' I can connect to my local sshd, but when I use putty to log in from another computer connected to network, telling it to connect to 192.168.1.1 (my local ip) at port 23 with ssh protocoll it doesn't work. It says 'connection refused'. Leaving the sshd config alone and connecting via port 22 works perfect. I don't have a firewall set up. I'm I doing something wrong with configuring sshd? David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] New to Gentoo - general questions
No on binary. If you don't know yet, portage is a source-centered package manager. Except that there are plenty of packages that rely on binary distributions for a variety of reasons. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail
Alan Ianson wrote: I would like to get pine working to send/fetch mail, can anyone give me pointers on what I need to emerge once gentoo is up and running? TIA. In what way are you extracting mail? POP3? IMAP? Pine is easy to configure for either. Google'ing has always refreshed my memory when it slips. I believe setting the inbox path to wubble.server.com/inbox will do pop3 and wubble.server.com:143 does imap. You have to go into Configure to get to these. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] telnet setup
Not sure why they would allow telnet and not ssh. However, since I assume they are accomplishing this with port blocking, you can get around it by getting ssh to listen on the telnet port. Or, if you are using a cable modem/firewall, you can do a port forward. :-) Ric -- Original Message -- From: David Obwaller [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 21:44:09 +0100 hi, my isp disables me in using ssh, so I'm forced to use telnet to remotely access my computer. I'll try to change this, but for now I want to set up telnet. I emerged netkit-telnetd along with xinetd and added xinetd to the default runlevel. in /etc/xinetd.d/telnetd I changed diabled = yes to = no, so telnet's enabled with xinetd. now, when I access my telnetd using telnet 127.0.0.1 I can login normally, without any problems, but when I try to log in from a remote computer on my local network it says 'connection refused by foreign host'. ssh works over lan, but as I said I need telnet to control my computer remotely. am I missing something?? thanks in advance for any hints, David -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Fetching mail
Alan Ianson wrote: Looks like Pine will grab my mail from the pop3 server without any other software like fetchmail or exim? I should have looked into that a long time ago.. thanks. Yep. Didn't used to be that way. In fact, it even allows you to pull mail with a different username from the one you are logged in with on the current server. Details are at: http://www.washington.edu/pine/faq/config.html Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using transparent terminal...
Uh, I have no idea. I don't use X-windows. Please note I said I think and I believe. If my understanding is flawed I'd be delighted if you could post some references to simple explanations. Only issue I had with what you said (since I don't use Macs) was your comment that the transparency was handled by the O/S. I have a fairly limited definition of O/S when it comes to issues like this. It's either kernel space or user space. You are still talking about an application that lives in user space -- it's just handled outside of the individual application. Windows XP also supports the alpha blending that you are referring to. I have run Trillian in transparent mode. I find it somewhat less than useful for most things because then my eyes have more to look at. Certainly it's a powerful tool for graphics applications but not so terrific for most user apps. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Using transparent terminal...
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: I seem to recall that ebuilds exists for this project. However, doesn't work with the NVidia binary drivers :( Yes, but does he have a useable NVidia driver like XFree? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Centralized user authentication
Frank J. Mattia wrote: cheers, Frank J. Mattia i think thats the first time ive ever used cheers in a salutation. and if anyone knows of a better name for the closing part of a letter (other than salutation) - please, for the love of rediwhip... tell me. i've been racking my brain - and google - to no avail. Not to be pedantic, but salutation is actually the opening of a letter (ie, Dear Frank or Dear John). :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly
-Original Message- From: Jeff Smelser [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2003 8:07 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] quote from distrowatch weekly Not much different than Debian, RH, etc. Actually no, rh keeps you at certain versions. We they moved to gcc3, I didn't have to upgrade to it, 5.2 sill had the same set of software.. I'm with you on that. The all-inclusive nature of portage's dependencies drives me nuts sometimes. And the all-inclusive nature of ebuilds sometimes drives me nuts (I'd like a good way to exclude ALL multimedia builds from, say, gnome just as an example). Debian is not classified for servers.. AT ALL. So I don't know where your getting that. What company you know thinks debian when he wants to install linux on a server. Not sure what makes you say that. I don't know many people who use Linux in general for production servers. Those that do that I'm aware of use RedHat. But it has nothing to do with classified for servers at all. It has to do with the fact that RedHat provides support for their OS. To any organization that would need a server, that's typically important. As for Debian on servers, it probably makes a lot more sense than most other distros for the exact reason why I hate running it on my desktop -- they strive for stability which means they are typically a couple/few revs back since they only use known stable/secure versions at any given time (secure being a moving target). Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] NFS vs AFS vs?
Rex Young wrote: I vaguely remember from my days as a Win2K admin that it was available. However, I never installed it or used it. We used NFS to from DOS (yes, DOS) to VMS to move data from a gauging system. When we went to Windows the vendor updated the DOS to use MS networking. I've seen it as a fairly expensive commercial offering, but I don't think that win2k has it built in. Microsoft offers a Unix toolkit that includes a PC-NFS offering. It likes a PC-NFS server to be able to do user mapping, though. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: I have a .bash_profile, but i'm not sure if and which shell i'm using. I can only say this: i've installed gentoo. How can i fugure out which shell is set for my user and for the root account ? Yep. Which again leads me to believe that somehow you aren't using bash as your shell. While you are logged in, you can type echo $SHELL or echo $shell (csh uses lower case while bourne-related shells use upper). You can also cat or grep /etc/passwd to get your shell setting or, if you have installed finger, you can finger your user. To set bash as your shell, use the following: usermod -s /bin/bash username Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, David Gethings wrote: As you rightly pointed out neither .bashrc nor .bash_profile are executable. For the line in your .bash_profile to include your config in .bashrc make it executable (chmod u+x .bashrc). No, you don't need to do that. The . tells it to be parsed. You only need it to be executable if you want to execute it directly -- ie, ~/.bashrc or just .bashrc if you are already in your home directory. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Solved: .bashrc over ssh
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: Mike Williams wrote: One of the first things I do on a new install is copy the contents of /etc/skel to /root I'll always do that in the future. Better solution is to never login as root. Use sudo. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Network problems
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Frank Lugo wrote: yeah I tried to ping www.yahoo.com but I cant ping anything outside my private IP address And no the routers are not dns caching.. Got any other ideas? I may have missed something. Can you ping the nameserver? Can you ping any IP outside of your network? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
What do you have set for your shell? On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Oliver Lange wrote: Hello everyone, Does anyone know how to use ssh in a way that ~/.bashrc is executed at logon ? Currently, I need to start a bash right after logging in, then must enter 'exit' twice to log off.. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] .bashrc over ssh
On Tue, 9 Dec 2003, Eric Paynter wrote: When you initiate an interactive session, the shell chooses an initialization script to run based on how you started the session. If you use bash, it may run ~/.bashrc or ~/.bash_profile. Gentoo by default sources .bashrc from .bash_profile which is, of course, why I asked what shell he is using. If .bashrc isn't getting run, then perhaps he has a different shell without realizing it. The problem with symlinking one to the other as you suggest is if you ever use something like scp, you potentially break it, as the comment in .bashrc says. All my profile-ish things that generate output get put, correctly, into .bash_profile. Of course, if you never generate output with your login scripts then you're ok. Just something to keep in mind, though. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Tom Wesley wrote: Well... XP home does not support NTFS. Believe it or not. MS philosophy is great isn' it? Err, I'm surprised, but somehow I find it believable... Actually, I don't find it believable at all since I've installed XP Home a couple of times with NTFS. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, daniel wrote: you'd be surprised at what mozilla would support. you just have to get mozilla to tell the site it's talking to that it's actually inernet exploder running on windows xp ;-) i use this trick to do much of my online banking 'cause i know damn well that konqueror is more stable and secure than ie. in kde, all you have to do is configure konqueror and select browser identification but i don't know what it would be in mozilla (though i'm sure such an option exists). I've used that feature in Konqueror back when I used KDE. I do wish someone would come up with a useful alternate browser for Gnome (or non-DE systems) to Mozilla which really sucks rocks, IMO. I don't believe that such a feature exists for Mozilla. Why would Mozilla ever want to masquerade as another browser? :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jonas Widarsson wrote: What? I'm pretty sure I was never given that option! Would have been during the install. http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/home/using/howto/gettingstarted/guide/newinstallation.asp My XP is swedish, but it can't be about that, can it? I wouldn't think so. XP is XP. I've installed NT 4.0 in Japanese with a Japanese guy standing behind me for translations. Turns out I didn't need them. I had installed it so many times I knew what it said before he could read it to me. The installation was identical. Can't imagine it would have been any different with other languages. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] split a fat32 partition on my laptop.
On Mon, 1 Dec 2003, Jonas Widarsson wrote: OH SHT! I didn't know of that! convert works well. been a while since i've used it. requires a reboot since it won't convert a live filesystem (needs to mount it read only to convert, iirc). Seems like doing it, but I'm suspicious about NTFS and the linux kernel. Has it got out of EXPERIMENTAL ? No, but I've used it off and on for a few years without incident. Of course, read-write is REALLY experimental. I think I've used that before too but it would have been a long time ago. Ahhh, but you want write support. I probably wouldn't recommend it. I'd be surprised if the Linux kernel driver has kept up with the latest version of NTFS given how the feature has never moved out of experimental to begin with. And what about permissions in NTFS when XP doesn't even have a decent way to manage it... Not like w2k anyway. maybe the GUI changes its behaviour when filesystem type changes? Yeah, I know. discuss that somewhere else, kid. XP changes file system permissions says as W2K did. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] su: permission denied
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Joel Konkle-Parker wrote: Cool, that did it. Any kind of GUI out there or command that will show all the groups I belong to? grep username /etc/group -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Local mail delivery?
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Martin Horak wrote: Even better is IMHO courier. It's based on qmail's idea, but is a little bit normalized. I've had problems with courier in the past but I can't remember off-hand what they are. The best one I've seen for ease of use and maintainability is postfix. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] xdm .xinitrc
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Selentek 24331-03 wrote: Hello, I run xdm to enter xfree. 1) Is where any way to execute my own WM (for example icewm) without changing /etc/rc.conf (only for my user). Create a .xinitrc file where you can execute your window manager as well as other applications you want to start. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Finding packages by files
On Fri, 21 Nov 2003, Martin Horak wrote: That's very bad for me... :-( How do you find package, which offers libsomething.so.1 then? Aren't there any plans for search engine similar to rpmfind? I don't understand why that's bad for you. What problem are you having that you need to know what package has a particular library or other file? It's often not hard to figure out from the name of the library which package it's in. Emerge handles all dependencies if the script is written correctly. RPM has an advantage over emerge in that regard, if you can call it an advantage. RPMs have all the files in them. Since emerge builds from source, we don't know what files will be included until it's already installed at which point we can enumerate. I don't really see the point of creating a lot more disk space overhead to house such a database even if that disk space is housed in the network somewhere. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: PostgreSQL 7.4
Is it still ~ masked? If you ACCEPT_KEYWODS=~x86 emerge -pU postgresql does it pick it up? -Original Message- From: Jeff MacDonald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 21, 2003 10:17 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] yeah, i see it there now in my portage tree, but for some reason it's not getting picked up when i do emerge -Up world. anyhints ? jeff. -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] courier-imap or cyrus-imap
this is probably caused by them being larger than about 300MB. Mine's about a gig. Hmm, one of mine just grew over 300m.. I really hate Microsoft and their programmers Well, I typically have them around 500M with no problems at all. My wife runs just below 2G and the only time she has serious problems are when she pops over the 2G level. So, doesn't sound like you can blame Microsoft and their programmers exclusively. I wanted to install some form of imap and look into moving my mail storage there as a precursor to totally dropping Windows at work sometime after the start of the year. I think my first step would be to get something like this installed, working, and then make sure I can get it backed up as well. IMAP is a bit odd and can take some getting used to. Man I wish I could do that. Anyone have an opinion (on this board? no way!) ;-) about whether courier-imap or cyrus-imap would be a better choice for me? Courier seems to be better.. Faster.. I have used both.. cyrus uses the mbox format and your back to using huge files again and the problems that go with it. Actually, the one that has worked best for me is UW-Imap. Comes with Pine. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] XFCE and rc.conf
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Brett I. Holcomb wrote: It works fine with startx. I change rc.conf for XSESSION to XFCE4 if I That was the bit I was wondering. I tried it last night by starting it with startxfce4 just to get it running and never got around to trying to set the XSESSION var. remember correctly (the Gentoo box is not up) and all I do is startx and I get xfce4. I've used xfce3 and 4 and it's an excellent app. I used to use KDE but dropped it. I find xfce does everything and is very fast. Seems to be fast. Not sure about does everything having just come from Gnome. Taking a little to get used to. It may end up being too much like CDE, an environment I hated, but giving it a shot. I thought I had read where it was easily scripted and modified but haven't found that yet. On the other hand, have just started to get using it so it's early yet. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re:[gentoo-user]Re:[gentoo-user]cannotmountrootfilesystemread/write
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ian Truelsen wrote: Mine reads: /dev/hda1 /boot ext2 noauto,noatime1 1 /dev/hda2 none swap noatime 0 0 /dev/hda3 / ext3 noatime 0 0 First, some of us brought up fstab because the problems you are seeing are consistent with problems in fstab. If i go braindead and forget to make changes I get pretty close to what you describe for problems mounting. My swap does not have noatime as an option. I have sw as the only option on my swap partition. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] PostgreSQL 7.4
On Thu, 20 Nov 2003, Jeff MacDonald wrote: i'm just wondering the correct way to approach this from the gentoo social structure. I wouldn't worry about niceties. do i : 1 make the ebuild my self and contribute it Depends on your purpose. If you want it for yourself, hack the ebuild. If you want to be nice, contribute it. My experience is ebuilds contributed in this fashion don't get looked at terribly quickly but that may just have been an anomaly. 2: contact the maintainer of this ebuild and ask nicly Easier to just do it yourself. 3: wait How badly do you want it? 4: hack the ebuild and download the file ? That's what I do. it's not urgent that i have this version or anything, i'm just curiuos, so i can learn how things are done Again, it depends on what your goal is. If you want to be a developer or contributor, you need to play by rules. If you just want the new package to work on your system, there are no rules. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] building openoffice
As I am seeking help, I'll comply with your wishes, but this whole top-posting vs bottom-posting, vi vs emacs, gui vs cli (...) shit has got to go. It's a matter of preference and perspective. I'm with you. I prefer in-line posts but I HATE HATE HATE having to scroll way down through a post just to read a couple of lines that didn't matter to me just because someone had to bottom post and couldn't edit. I'd rather get a quick feel for what the e-mail is about then I can chase the thread if necessary. As you point out, it's a matter of preference. In-line is best (as long as you quote reasonably and cut out extraneous material) followed by top-posting. But that's just my opinion ... :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gnumeric kerfuffle
Having a hard time getting Gnumeric to build (either 1.2.0 or 1.2.1). I get this error: failed to load ./gnumeric_splash.jpg: Couldn't recognize the image file format for file './gnumeric_splash.jpg' It loads fine in Mozilla so I'm not sure what the issue is and Google turns up nothing. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
I guess it's interesting to me that you require answers that are based on philosophy of the people involved in the project rather than on technical details of the project. Strikes me as a bit backwards but what do I know? I use operating systems because they do what I need them to do. Ric -Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sergey V. Spiridonov Sent: Wednesday, November 19, 2003 3:08 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Barry Marler wrote: This forum's name is fairly illustrative of it's purpose: to discuss issues relating to using the distribution. Before I decide, if I want to use a distribution, I want to know something about it. Here are my questions and I need answers to draw a conclusion. The Gentoo philosophy per se is, IMHO, not germane to gentoo-user. Then you probably know the right place for this? -- Best regards, Sergey Spiridonov -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
Before I decide, if I want to use a distribution, I want to know something about it. Here are my questions and I need answers to draw a conclusion. I'm willing to bet that most people choose a distro based on install ease, choice of packages, built-in tools, and so on -- NOT the political idealogy of the distro. How this can help *me*? It can help *you* by giving you an idea of the personal philosophies of folks who use and contribute (with support, etc) to the project. It may not be developers for the most part, but the people on this list are folks who are attracted to this project and you can get an idea of their philosophy, since that seems to be the only thing you care about in a Linux distribution, based on their answers to you. Do you think what most people do is a good reason to change my criterions? No, but just because you have different criteria than most people doesn't mean that most people should be required to answer questions for you. Especially since the Gentoo Web site has most of the answers you need if you go looking for them. At a minimum, it's pretty clear who the chief developer is. If you want to know how he feels about things and how he runs the project, go to him directly. While I seem to recall that his e-mail was a link on the Web site that doesn't seem to be there anymore, it's still quite trivial to find his e-mail address. BTW most people use MS Windows, do you follow advices you give to other people? Not sure what this means. I use MS Windows AND Linux (look, he's bi-lingual!) because I'm far less concerned about philosophy/politics than I am about usability and capability and there are still things Windows and Windows apps do better, more easily, etc. I have also used Solaris, HP-UX, Primos, VM/CMS, DOS, CP/M, VMS, BSD, and a handful of other operating systems. It's more about what the best (or correct) tool for the job is than it is about whether the developers believe a certain thing for me. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo internal structure
Well, it is a good reason for a user (for this reason a lot of users use MS Windows and MS Office). A lot of users tend to ignore GNU philosophy and interpret _free_ software as in free beer, not as in freedom. Yep. I think that's always been true, probably because in some areas of the world, free beer has more direct meaning to their lives than some perceived freedom (ie, it's hard to know what freedom really is until you've lost it). I also don't happen to think that GNU's philosophy of freedom is quite the same as mine. Of course, I define freedom by my ability to actually accomplish things. That extends to my ability to write code as well and, like it or not, Microsoft has some very, very useful programming tools (expensive though they may be) and extremely rich development libraries. When Qt and Gtk become as useful (feature-rich) and as well documented, I'll consider moving. Until then, I really like MFC and .NET for rapid, feature-rich development. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] cannot mount root filesystem read/write
On Wed, 19 Nov 2003, Ian Truelsen wrote: -- I just installed gentoo on my desktop and all went well until I rebooted my system. It gets all the way to the point of checking root filesystem, reports that /dev/hda3, which is my root filesystem, is clean. Then it tries to remount the root filesystem read/write, but is unable to do so. It then asks for the root password for maintenance. I log in at this point, run fsck and am again assured that /dev/hda3 is clean. I check /etc/mtab and /dev/ROOT is listed as mounted at / and in rw mode. However, it is still reporting as read only. You did replace ROOT with hda3, didn't you? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] XFCE and rc.conf
Taking a look at xfce4 just to see whether it's faster and at least as useful as Gnome. Question is whether it will work in /etc/rc.conf to use with startx or do I need to write a .xinitrc to get xfce to run when I launch X? Or just startxfce4? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
I've no idea what Windows doesn't treat time correctly means. I've been dual booting for years and only have problems when I do something dumb on the UNIX side (like not setting the /etc/localtime link) or sometimes under OpenBSD but I forget what the problem there is/was. Ric On 2003.11.17 23:57, Marianne Taylor wrote: On November 17, 2003 21:57, Donnie Berkholz wrote: On Mon, 2003-11-17 at 16:10, Marianne Taylor wrote: My system ie hwclock is set to the local time. But each time I reboot my system clock is set to 8 hrs before my hwclock. Somewhere my system seems to be correcting for Greenwich time, but I can't figure out where. In rc.conf I have the clock set to local time. Where else can I look for this problem. I don't want to keep correcting this. Any chance it's a dual-boot w/ Windows? Windows doesn't treat time correctly. Yes it is, but I am pretty sure until the last month that this system was keeping the correct time. Perhaps it dates back to the last time I did an update of the baselayout? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] system time/hw clock
On 2003.11.18 10:51, Donnie Berkholz wrote: It means that in my experience, if you don't have time set to UTC in Linux, every time you boot Windows it will mess your time up. I've never set my time to UTC under linux and Windows never messes my time up. Windows NT, Windows 2000 and Windows XP have all been perfect for dual booting. I don't think Windows makes such an assumption about the hardware clock. Certainly hasn't been my experience and would be a bit out of the ordinary for them. They may well assume that the hardware clock is set to Pacific time, though. :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] sluggish system
I believe Mozilla (and anything else based on its core libraries, e.g. galeon) has monstrous memory leakage. Just exit completely from Mozilla/whatever periodically. If it were leaking memory, would it be taking up an enormous percentage of RAM? When I run top to check its memory usage, it says that mozilla-bin is only using 10.8%. Not necessarily. That's really the definition of leaking. It no longer belongs to the application, technically, but it's been allocated by the system and so can't be used anywhere else. Of course, I'm talking off the top of my head remembering the application level of leaking. I don't remember whether that's true from the system perspective or not. But I would suspect the system doesn't know how much memory mozilla is using because mozilla doesn't know how much memory mozilla is using. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sluggish system
On 2003.11.17 19:43, Andrew Gaffney wrote:
I thought memory leaks were just bugs in the code where memory that
was allocated for something isn't allocated when its done...something
like:
for(i=0;i100;i++) {
void *mem = malloc(1024);
// I don't feel like deallocating this memory so I'll just eat 1Gb of
RAM real quick
}
Depends on who allocated it and for what -- whether it was allocated on
the heap or the stack and whether the thread that was responsible for
it still lives or not. Now that I think about it, that was one of the
problems I seem to recall Mozilla having. Not cleaning up after their
threads. And if a thread dies with memory allocated, it's completely
orphaned. Not necessarily attached to the main process ID.
The other thing is, as I pointed out and others have as well, if it's a
resource leak, it would be in X and not in Mozilla. My suspicion is
that it's probably a combination of both. Or even more than that, it
could be other applications (helpers) as well, depending on how you run
Mozilla.
Bottom line is that Mozilla has for years been a big, steaming pile of
crap and rather than streamlining it, the developers keep adding and
adding to the codebase. Oh, I should add IMO.
Ric
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Re: [gentoo-user] Uh oh...AltCtrlBackspace not locked outwith xscreensaver..
On 2003.11.15 22:38, Mark Knecht wrote: OK, I'll bite. How? My work box is locked in a closet. The monitor, keyboard and mouse are available. The screensaver is locked. I've turned on DontZap and DontVtSwitch. I hand you the keyboard and mouse. What can you do? Would depend on how interested I was in getting into your system. I would also expect that you wouldn't be there to hand me the keyboard and mouse. Couple of things occurred to me right off the top of my head but I'm sure others more scheming than I could come up with more. First, I'm sure the closet could be forced or otherwise gotten around giving me the physical access I need. Locks aren't completely invulnerable. Second, most systems for a few years now have given you the ability to net boot. I could cut power, set up a net boot server and force your system to net boot then I'd be in. That also assumes your system auto- starts on power loss which most do, I believe, these days. You've certainly restricted access to casual attacks but since you apparently think there is something really valuable on your system, maybe casual attackers aren't what you would be most vulnerable to. I do know that it's silly to ever think you are completely invulnerable to attack. Until you pull all wires from it and encase it in concrete. :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ? Recommended 802.11b pcmcia or usb ?
On 2003.11.16 03:13, Mario Udina wrote: So, what works well with gentoo (802.11b wise)? Cisco Aironet 350 works perfectly. Only if you are running an outdated firmware version. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uh oh...AltCtrlBackspace not locked outwith xscreensaver..
On 2003.11.15 20:07, David A. Bandel wrote: Why server rooms are locked restricted areas (or should be). Absolutely. But he was concerned about someone being able to Ctrl-Alt- Bksp into a console prompt which meant physical access to the system. The correct answer, though, is not to leave a logged in system. Then you don't have to worry about it. Well, you don't worry about giving someone access to your account but again, if someone really wanted your system and had physical access to it, your account may not be nearly as interesting. You also have to figure out the threat probability and cost if successful and all that other good stuff that goes along with risk management. :-) Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Uh oh...AltCtrlBackspace not lockedoutwith xscreensaver..
Always good to know context when you're talking about security. :-) As
others have pointed out, running {x,g,k}dm is a good thing. Even if they can
break out of X somehow, it dumps them to a login screen. Just another
precaution.
Ric
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RE: [gentoo-user] sluggish system
Mozilla has long been notorious for having serious leakage problems. Odds are it's leaking resources (and probably memory as well). Ric -Original Message- From: Andrew Gaffney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 16, 2003 3:58 PM To: Gentoo User My main Gentoo box has a 1.3Ghz Athlon. 768Mb SDRAM, and a 80Gb HD. I almost always have X running, and when X is running, so is Mozilla with typically 5 browser windows and a mail window. After a few days like this, the system starts getting sluggish. Mozilla gets especially sluggish. When I say sluggish, I mean it takes 10-15 seconds to paint the window. If I restart Mozilla, it speeds up almost back to normal, but still a bit sluggish. If I completely restart X, Mozilla is good as new. Does anyone else experience this, or atleast know why its acting like this? -- Andrew Gaffney -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Uh oh...AltCtrlBackspace not locked outwith xscreensaver..
Bit of a red herring, actually. If I can walk up to your system, it won't matter whether I can hit Ctrl-Alt-Bksp to get into your account or not. If I have physical access to your box, I own it. Period. Ric -Original Message- From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, November 14, 2003 11:51 PM To: Gentoo-User On Fri, 2003-11-14 at 20:24, Andrew Gaffney wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, Found this issue and tried it twice tonight on two different machines. With xscreensaver locked and waiting for your password, I walk up and hit Alt-Ctrl-Backspace. It kills X and drops me into the console as you. At this point I have your account. I guess this is an XFree issue? Is there a way to configure XFree to not do this? Or is this an xscreensaver issue. Should it trap the key sequence and do nothing? Is this a known bug? It seems quite dangerous to me. From 'man XF86Config': Option DontZap boolean This disallows the use of the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace sequence. That sequence is normally used to terminate the X server. When this option is enabled, that key sequence has no special meaning and is passed to clients. Default: off. OK, so that seems to work. Thanks. Personally I think that this option should be on by default, but at least now I know. Thanks, Mark -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to expire ssh user?
Used to be the recommended way of removing a user from your system was to change the username (user becomes _user for example). That way you can retain all the privs, etc in case you want to grant the account to someone else later (like the person's replacement in a work environment). Ric On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: Hi there, I'd like to expire an user, so he is no longer able to login to a machine using ssh. How can you acomplish this? I would like to keep the user, and all its information (including password, public/private keys...) so I can reactivate it later. Regards, Jose -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keys
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: I've never had to generate my keys for ssh. Under Slackware this is done the first time you boot into a fresh install. Under Gentoo this was not done. Now I'm not sure if this is something I've messed up or is there some step I've overlooked.? This is done the first time you start the sshd service. /etc/init.d/sshd start. If you have added sshd to the default runlevel (rc-update add sshd default) it would have gen'd the keys for you when you booted into your new OS. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] IDS
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Chase Jeffery D wrote: single machine. This is going to be installed on my firewall machine.. What's your goal in installing a network IDS? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] IDS
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Chase Jeffery D wrote: Just would like to see if/when someone is trying to hack me So, what do you plan to do if/when someone tries to hack you? What sort of rules are you interested in implementing? Are you planning to do real-time monitoring of your IDS (you want it to page/send e-mail/ring bells, etc?) or are you planning to use it as a casual thing that you check periodically? Network IDS, particularly without a properly tuned ruleset tailored to your specific needs, can be overwhelmingly chatty or noisy -- in terms of alerting. Speaking as someone who has been responsible for building IDS services for a Tier 1 network back-bone for the last couple of years, I'm always a little skittish when people ask about network IDS. It's vastly over-rated in terms of it's ability to provide decent security. As I asked above, what would you do if you learned that someone had tried to hack you? Unless you are someone special or use a lot of IRC, odds are you are only going to see worm-related activity and an odd port scan or two. The Internet isn't nearly as interesting a place for hacking activities as folks would like you to believe. Unless you have something worth looking at. Unless you have a clearly defined security policy (or idea what you are looking for) and this is more of the curiosity factor, then snort is a very good product. You can also get DeMarc or Acid as consoles to look to your heart's content at a lot of mostly uninteresting data. Thus endeth the rant. Back to your regularly scheduled programming. :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keys
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: Jeffrey Smelser wrote: Gentoo runs this the first time you run the SSHD daemon.. So it wasn't overlooked. I'm definately still in the dark then. I've rebooted this system but there was no keys generated. running sshd results in: crash root # sshd Ding! Thank you for playing. sshd won't do it. You need to start the service which checks to see whether the keys exist first. If not (you might consider reading /etc/init.d/sshd, btw), it does the following: /usr/bin/ssh-keygen -t rsa1 -b 1024 -f /etc/ssh/ssh_host_key -N '' As mentioned previously, run /etc/init.d/sshd start to get the daemon running. If you want it to run every time you boot, you should rc-update add sshd default. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh keys
On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Ted Ozolins wrote: I knew I had overlooked something! Thanks Ric, that did it. One other question then, if I want apache (apache2ctl) started at boot what would be the add statement rc-update add apache2ctl default? No prob. And no, the service is called apache2. You can look in /etc/init.d and see all the services. All rc-update really does is create a symlink in /etc/runlevels/runlevel for the service. Init looks in that directory at boot and executes a start against all the scripts it finds in it. Analogous to the /etc/rcn.d directories under SYSV-style UNIX. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] odd sudo problem
On 2003.11.07 15:08, Jacob Smullyan wrote: Yes, I did do a real emerge sudo. If I had installed it manually, I'd be *really* surprised that it knew about /var/tmp/portage! Didn't mean installed manually. You can effect the same as an emerge by doing a series of ebuild commands. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] odd sudo problem
On 2003.11.06 18:49, Collins Richey wrote: Looks like you haven't created the /etc/sudoers file. Mine looks like this: It actually looks like sudo believes its configuration files are in the location where the package was built. I assume you did a real emerge sudo? Unfortunately, creating an /etc/sudoers file isn't going to help if sudo is looking elsewhere for sudoers. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Gentoo RFC-compliant?
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo RFC-compliant?
The part I find the funniest is: 6. IANA Considerations This document defines the behavior of security elements for the 0x0 and 0x1 values of this bit. Behavior for other values of the bit may be defined only by IETF consensus [RFC2434]. That part had me rolling out of my chair. :-) -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell
that's what su is for Ric - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Gentoo Users [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 11:54 AM Subject: [gentoo-user] sudo not running a shell as a login shell Hi all, is there a way to get sudo to run a shell with the -s option as a login shell? I ask because when I give the command sudo -s and enter a password, I become root, but not with root's environment, so /sbin, /usr/sbin, etc, are not in the path. Thanks, William -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
sudo wasn't designed to do that. your original post indicated that you wanted sudo to execute a shell, which is what su does. your problem is that you are attempting to execute something that isn't in your path. since you aren't actually running the command as root (ie, there is no login context), sudo doesn't provide root's environment. you are running with an effective uid of root which is slightly different. put the appropriate dirs into your path and you should be fine. alternately, i seem to recall that some versions of su provide a switch like -c which allows you to specify a command. i don't remember if that spawns an appropriate environment (which is really what you are looking for) or if you could tag a - (which would inherit the correct environment vars, run the login scripts, etc). if i'm completely dazed and providing incorrect information, i'm sure someone will correct me. - Original Message - From: William Hubbs [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 2:32 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell) Hi Rick and all, The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. That means that if I do the following: sudo [command] where command is in /sbin or /usr/sbin, I get a message that says sudo: [command] not found I am using the /etc/sudoers file that comes with emerging sudo, with the line uncommented that allows users in the wheel group to run commands as root with their passwords, and the user is in the wheel group. What am I missing? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ssh, how secure?
As always, the first question to ask is what am i protecting against before you can evaluate how secure something is. Security is a process, New Jersey is a state. Having said that, http://www.openssh.com/security.html since I assume you are using OpenSSH as opposed to SSH Communications SSH. Ric - Original Message - From: Tom Wesley [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 4:32 PM Subject: [gentoo-user] ssh, how secure? HI all, I have been using Linux since SuSE 5.2, so by now even a few of my internal organs are penguin shaped. As such, I have always used ssh to work remotely, using password protected private/public key stuff. Nothing special going on between the two. I was suggesting to my boss using something similar to tunnel an unusual database client connection to a /very/ remote server. Althogh he was up for giving the idea a quick test run, he keeps asking Exactly how secure is this? I was quite of the opinion that it *is*. But the question has to be, how secure is ssh? Anyone have any pointers? Tom Wesley -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell)
From an OpenBSD system: $ printenv PATH=/home/kilroy/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/loca l/sbin:/usr/games:. $ sudo printenv PATH=/home/kilroy/bin:/bin:/sbin:/usr/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/loca l/sbin:/usr/games:. Debian may be an abberation and I'm not convinced there is a compelling reason to change. Ric - Original Message - From: James H. Cloos Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 31, 2003 5:30 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sudo not setting the path (was sudo not running a shell as a login shell) The problem appears to be that for some reason, sudo doesn't put the /usr/sbin and /sbin directories in the path. | sudo wasn't designed to do that. That is not generally true. I have at least two boxen (with distribution-provided sudo installs) where sudo does result in a PATH that includes /sbin and /usr/sbin even though those are not in my account's PATH on those boxen. On a debian box: :; printenv PATH /usr/local/bin:/usr/bin:/bin:/usr/bin/X11:/usr/games :; sudo printenv PATH /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/X11R6/bin OTOH, I've verified that rh7.3 does not to PATH. I'd suggest gnetoo should follow debian's precedents more than rh's precedents -JimC -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cisco AiroNet 2.5-series kernel
Having stability problems with a 2.5.66 kernel and a Cisco AiroNet card. After working through several nuances of the new 2.5-series configuration, I have my system working (except that it complained about not finding RTC and ide-cd modules ... when i compiled an ide-cd module despite not having a cdrom, it said it already had ide-cd loaded in the kernel). The Cisco card comes up and configures and all is good. Until I start trying to send a decent stream of traffic through it. Then the entire system locks hard. Anyone with experience with this? Is it possible that I'm missing something obvious? Thanks, Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] jargon question...
I would suspect it has some origins in the Swedish Chef as well (funny to mangle broken into borken because of bork bork bork). Ric - Original Message - From: brett holcomb [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] jargon question... It means messed up. Where it comes from - who knows. Maybe an inversion of broke! On 26 Mar 2003 11:09:57 -0800 Spundun Bhatt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does bork mean on this mailing list? where does it come from? whats its literal meaning? -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] jargon question...
Intentional typos tend to be intentional for a reason (ie, there was something else it was meant to convey). Otherwise, they tend not to be intentional but instead they are unintentional typos that have come into common usage for a particular reason. For example, pr[o0]n was a way to get porn through filters of one sort or another. My thought was that it's possible that borken was a nod to the Swedish Chef and the original reason for writing it borken has been lost. Thus, ESR doesn't have it. He is not g0d after all and can't know everything. Regardless, it was just bemused speculation and not intended to be a definitive answer on the subject. It appears there is no definitive word since even esr doesn't trace where the 'intentional typo' originated. Ric - Original Message - From: Michael Jinks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:15 PM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] jargon question... True, but (a) ESR is usually pretty good about tracing etymologies and (b) the intentional typo is a simpler explanation and common elsewhere (cf. pr[o0]n, others that I can't remember off hand). My bet is that the Swedish chef resemblance is a coincidence. Well that was diverting. We now return you, er, me to our regularly scheduled round of DBI programming. Whee. -m On Wed, Mar 26, 2003 at 04:50:12PM -0500, Ric Messier wrote: Doesn't mean that the mangling wasn't originally inspired by the Swedish Chef. :-) I think this is coincidental. My authoritive source on these matters is the Jargon File; main site appears to be unreachable right now (I get a redirect to EFF's home page, for some reason) but here from a mirror: http://info.astrian.net/jargon/terms/b/borken.html -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- Michael Jinks, IB # Enterprise Networks Systems Administration # UofC Reader! Think not that technical information ought not be called speech; -- Anonymous, How to decrypt a DVD -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Cisco AiroNet card
Does anyone have a Cisco AiroNet card working with Gentoo on a laptop? I did up until a week or so ago when it just stopped working for no particular reason. I get a high beep when pcmcia loads and then it is shortly followed by a lower beep. The syslog shows the following: Mar 23 21:48:37 [kernel] airo: Probing for PCI adapters Mar 23 21:48:38 [kernel] airo: Doing fast bap_reads Mar 23 21:48:38 [kernel] airo: Max tries exceeded waiting for command I sometimes get a message indicating that it was unable to set MAC address. To the best of my recollection, I made no changes to the system that would have caused the interface to stop coming up -- it's possible that I turned on a kernel module for something like SMB prior to the card no longer working. I did it from the .config file that created the existing kernel and modules. I dual boot my laptop with Windows XP. The card continues to work perfectly under XP. I spent this past weekend building and re-building various kernels and pcmcia drivers, etc, etc. No luck. At best, I can get the lights on the card to turn on. But I still get no interface showing up. And I can't begin to tell you how painful a process that was using lilo and the NT boot loader (grub just refuses to behave whereas lilo always performs exactly as expected ... even if i have to reload it every time i rebuild the kernel). Any thoughts would be greatly appreciated. The last time this happened (a few months back), I attributed it to an emerge system that I did without paying attention to consequences. I rebuilt, used the kernel drivers and everything worked nicely for a few months. I'd prefer not to rebuild from scratch again given how lnnggg a process it is. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
[gentoo-user] Portage errors
I've been seeing a lot of errors recently with Portage (right up through the current stable version (portage-2.0.47-r7). Here are a couple of examples: emerge'ing ncurses on sparc (I think): open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimedb chown: /var/cache/edb chown: /var/cache/edb/dep open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimedb chown: /var/cache/edb chown: /var/cache/edb/dep open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimedb chown: /var/cache/edb chown: /var/cache/edb/dep open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimedb I've seen this with other packages as well. I was also working on an ebuild for libgnomedb-0.9.0 last night and received the following errors (ACCESS VIOLATIONS): open_wr: /var/lib/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs open_wr: /var/lib/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs Both types of errors are fatal and I'm running into a lot of roadblocks these days with similar errors. Getting to be very frustrating. I haven't had any luck doing Google or forum searches. Is anyone else running into similar errors? If so, is there a workaround? Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage errors
On Thu, 6 Mar 2003 15:00:15 +0100 Sigurd Stordal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this type of errors too, but it ended telling me it was a sandbox access violation. I think it will be solved if you have userpriv in your FEATURES. or maybe you need usersandbox too.(in /etc/make.globals or make.conf). It is definitely sandbox access violations. I added the two entries you suggest to /etc/make.conf. I'm emerge'ing xfree at the moment and I'm getting the following in the process (hasn't dumped me out yet): ACCESS DENIED chown: /var/cache/edb ACCESS DENIED chown: /var/cache/edb/dep ACCESS DENIED open_wr: /var/cache/edb/mtimedb Just for the record, I've gotten all of these errors running either sudo or directly as root. I shouldn't be getting any access denied messages at that point. Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Portage errors
No luck. I'm still getting ACCESS VIOLATION errors attempting to open_wr /var/lib/scrollkeeper/scrollkeeper_docs Ric -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing list
