Re: [Goanet] the crazy issue of the Indian visa for tourists
extracted from an Indian journalist :- http://qz.com/386802/whats-in-a-name-indias-e-visa-is-actually-a-smart-programme/
[Goanet] Fw: [Bulk] [goans_tanzanite] Proposed Merger Talks with GOA Discontinued
to those that receive this forwarding :- the Can-Orient membership , that is an inclusive membership associaton, as their name reveals : ... the Canadian Oriental Christian Association ( the CanOrient Assoc. ) that includes all that subscribe to inclusiveness regardless of which part of the sub-continent that one originates from , regardless of the region be it Assam. Nepal, Pakistan, Bengal, India, Maldives,Mangalore, Tamil Nadu, Kolkatta, Lakshawadeep islands ) has met an immovable cultural barrier that the goans who value their identity shaped by 450 years of Portuguese cultural influence that do not want to be included into the extent that the material ( economic ) benefits are not so important as their distinct identity. The Mangaloreans may lump their identities with the rest of the state of Karnataka..but the goans when it came to a questions of being a back water milked by the State of Maharshtra with the assent of the first CM(i choose to forget his name.)chose to be an identity by itself as a State , albeit the smallest State inthe Union of Indiai salute this decision, divisive as it may sound.to me culture is more important than the christian in the association . Please reply to refute my opinions... from all quarters. - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca [goans_tanzanite] To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: goans_tanzan...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, October 10, 2014 1:08 PM Subject: [Bulk] [goans_tanzanite] Proposed Merger Talks with GOA Discontinued Folks, Received this today. Mervyn -- We wish to inform the membership that the Canorient has terminated talks on the proposed merger with the Goan Overseas Association (GOA). GOA could not meet one of Canorient's two bottom line conditions that the name of the merged organization could not be The Goan Overseas Association and we were prepared for the new name to contain elements of both our current names. The GOA team was unable to meet our demand although we had indicated this from the very beginning, even before their Special General Meeting. The GOA team appeared more willing to negotiate our other non-negotiable condition that membership eligibility should be broadened from Goans only to the membership eligibility of the Canorient. The Canorient Team felt that a merger with the GOA on terms acceptable to both organizations was in the best interest of both organizations. Now that the merger is off, we hope that all members will come forward to support the sustainability of the club. Our active participation is necessary with a view to growing the organization - keeping it alive and vibrant. Together we can do much to grow the Canorient to be the force in the future that it has always been. Please ensure your email filters allow mail from toronto.canori...@gmail.com in order to receive emails from us. Check out new website...http://canorienttoronto.com/ __._,_.___ Posted by: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca Reply via web post . Reply to sender . Reply to group . Start a New Topic . Messages in this topic (1) Goans of Tanzania Post Message: goans_tanzan...@yahoogroups.com To Subscribe: goans_tanzanite-subscr...@yahoogroups.com To Unsubscribe: goans_tanzanite-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com URL: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/goans_tanzanite Visit Your Group . Privacy . Unsubscribe . Terms of Use . __,_._,___
Re: [Goanet] Goa to work on wiping out scourge of open defecation
Gabe, I take the promises and vows of politicians with a pinch of caution. Generally these are forgotten within a month of laying of new foundation stones and speech-making.If the CM himself seems to reverse certain promises he made about zero tolerance for corruption can we really rely on his lieutenants ? - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org; goa...@groups.facebook.com Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2014 5:39 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goa to work on wiping out scourge of open defecation *Goa* Minister for Public Works Ramkrishna Dhavlikar on Tuesday vowed to end the bane of open defecation partially existing in the coastal tourist ... Full read @ http://www.thehindu.com/news/national/other-states/goa-to-work-on-wiping-out-scourge-of-open-defecation/article6438399.ece?homepage=true -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] The Scottish Rupee
My response :-- Are you implying that the hundreds of North Africans, Nigerians and other west African migrants who brave the oceans to become refugees are the future slaves who will become economy betterers? What about the many goans who hie to get Port. passports so that they can enter the European job market ? - Original Message - From: Melvyn Fernandes mel...@orange.net To: goanet [goanet] goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, September 19, 2014 6:58 AM Subject: [Goanet] The Scottish Rupee Hi all As you will have heard, the creation of the Scottish Rupee will no longer take place. Bravo Scotland. The people of Scotland have decided we are better off as United Kingdom. This may be an example for the doubting Thomases in Goa that we can also be better off united with all the other states in India as at the moment we are looked upon as the most backward state. On my part, I breathe a sigh of relief that the price of beer will remain steady. When I am in Goa there is the urgency in the morning to get to the television first to watch Thomas the Tank engine and all the creativity needed along with the big fat controller to run a railway. This is before others wake up and get to the television for the US dollar rate and sterling rate to the rupee. Today, if you agree, one can invade a country by sending them their currency to exchange with the local money until there is no more to exchange. In return its inhabitants can be imported as slaves paying their own way and keeping the money go round cycle going. Melvyn Fernandes Thornton Heath, Surrey, United Kingdom 19 September 2014
[Goanet] Fw: [Bulk] A Goa Referendum
- Original Message - Subject: Re: [Bulk] [Goanet] A Goa Referendum Roland, In your incomplete first message you mentioned the idea of a referendum by the people of Kashmir to decide their own future . I am afraid you don`t understand the stubborness/ ferocity of India to possess J. K.. When in 1947 there was a rushby both Pakistan and India to incorporate this beautiful land of J .K. both sides fought their first war over it. India mantained that by geographical contiguity and the assent of a Hindu Maharaja ( who had little armed means to resist the bully India) the area belonged to them. Pakistan held that the majority of the population was Muslim and so should join the newly born Islamic Republic of Pakistan. I personally think that J. Nehru wanted to have the kashmiri Brahmin brethren join with hindustan nation of India. Hence India could not afford to have a referendum in which the nation would lose a jewel like J. K. After all , like old Chinese Mao tse-Tung `s saying that all power grew out of the barrel of a gun , India used force to seize a good bit of the fair land and more military force to subdue the Kashmiris after that until the present day. Similar force was used by India who felt thatan uncomprising colonial power, Portugal who occupied a small area along the Konkan coast and around neighbouring Gujerat ( Daman, Diu etc; ) Portugal under President Salazar considered Goa as overseas province of the mother parliament( country ) in Lisbon. Portugal had already felt thewinds of change starting in Africa as the africans of Angola Mocambique wanted to join countries like Nigeria ,Tanganyika, Egypt who were freed by the Brits. I feel that had a referendum been held around 1960 in Goa... the result would have been a request to join India by a majority goans ( Hindu, Catholic and Muslim ). India sensed she had history on her side as even the NATO allies LIKe the USA and G.B. refused to side with Portugal at the U.N. by abstaining in the vote when it came to discussion there. - Original Message - From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@ymail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, September 13, 2014 7:29 PM Subject: [Bulk] [Goanet] A Goa Referendum Sorry my previous message was sent in error uncompleted. India needs to correct a historical wrong committed in 1961, by asking the Goan people to determine their own destiny even if it is 53 years later. Goa was not of the Portuguese to give nor of the Indians to take. To accept the political and geographical reality, the referendum should be on the following question: Should Goa determine its own independent economic future subject to India's defence and foreign affairs control allowing it to enforce its own borders and laws separate from the Indian constitution. Yes or no. The arguments against it this time will be: No one wants a separate Goa. The current generation know nothing else but being part of India. Goa will lose out on India's economic boom. To this I have the following answer. Then why not let the people confirm this while giving yourself a chance to regain the high moral ground. Are you afraid of the will of the people of Goa? Roland. Sent from my iPhone=
Re: [Goanet] This is for ex Africanders
Gabe, Maybe, you could e-mail Mervyn Lobo who sometimes posts small messages, opinions, reminiscences etc; to dip into his sources/old albums to contribute a few more old pictures from Tanzania and Zanzibar to this Facebook site that you speak of...it would make the sprinkling grow to a reasonable and representative amount. John Nazareth ( originally of Entebbe, Uganda ) now resident in TO might chip in with some old memories from the Uganda days. - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org; goa...@groups.facebook.com Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 2:52 AM Subject: [Goanet] This is for ex Africanders On Face book there is a page Nostalgic East Africa lots of old pics mostly from Kenya but there are a sprinkling from Tanzania and Ugdanda. -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
Re: [Goanet] A request for Rachead Masala
Dear Readers, Can anyone give me a recipe for Rachead Masala. I looked for it in the Cuisine section of the goacom.com website but could not find any recipe for this masala. Thanks ! Joe Lobo ( jl...@rogers.com)
Re: [Goanet] ARE WE CHRISTIANS OR HINDUS IN INDIA SECULAR COUNTRY?
When a politician speaks , . you have to understand that he speaksout both sides of his mouth he hopes to deceive everybody so that he is voted in the next time...most politicians are more interestd in their own survival in power than the interests of their constituents. - Original Message - From: Stephen Dias steve.dia...@gmail.com To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, July 25, 2014 6:37 PM Subject: [Goanet] ARE WE CHRISTIANS OR HINDUS IN INDIA SECULAR COUNTRY? Statement made by Dy Chief Minister Francisco dSousa and Minister of PWD Sudin Dhavalikar on Hindutava in the floor of assembly was irrelevant and offensive for the minorities group in India especially in Goa. The Dy.Chief Minister even said that we are all Hindus and that he himself is Hindu Christian. How come he has decided to keep the names for his children as Christian names and why he has baptized them. Moreover he married a Catholic women. When we are born as Hindus there was no need to baptize. Once a person is baptized then he/she becomes catholic. He is still free to change his Christian name into Hindu name. Nobody has any objection but he remains Christian. Stephen Dias D.Paula
Re: [Goanet] MORAJI DESAI WAS DRINKING URINE? That was his secret.
Stephen, I too had been interested whether the application of urine to shrubs, young saplings , etc; was of beneficial effect because the properties of different urines would vary . Inquiring with my friends i got feed back that ranged from its being good, too strong/ alkalinity-wise, or of no great value. One of my friends who lived in Chembur,Mumbai ascribed the good harvest of his bimli trees to the regular feeds of the urine. - Original Message - From: Stephen Dias steve.dia...@gmail.com To: cmene...@tpg.com.au; Goanet goa...@goanet.org; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2014 8:10 AM Subject: [Goanet] MORAJI DESAI WAS DRINKING URINE? That was his secret. Dear Menezes Note: This is in connection with the news published on Goanet. Sir, I agree with you that Urine does lots of miracles but very few people make use of it. There was one great politician in early years was drinking his own urine and he could probably survive for more than 90 years. What this gentlemen say is that his granny was carrying urine in their fields and growing some plants from her urine therapy. I totally agree because I myself do even now for one plant only at the age of 65 years on research purpose, and my plant is growing well an giving lots of fruits , much better than of my neighbor who has same kind of tree and grown at the same time. Her tree does not give anything and has no life, since they do not feed this tree with urine. One thing for certain that many ailments projected by this author / gentleman may not be correct. Regards Stephen Dias,Goa
Re: [Goanet] St. Francis Xavier
Well said, Roland.too many of us spend a lot of time in supplication to the saints with special prayers/ novenas and seem to lose sight of the Holy Trinity ! - Original Message - From: roland.francis roland.fran...@ymail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, February 02, 2014 12:01 PM Subject: [Goanet] St. Francis Xavier Personally, in the manner of Protestantism, I don't beleive in honoring saints. Of the little time we allot to God, it is best not to dissipate any with lesser beings. if one must spend precious prayers on saints, then it must be to respect the memory of what they have done rather ask them for spiritual and temporal favors. Why ask the nobles in a royal court when the king allows you to ask him directly? The worst of all this is to worship the dead body of a long gone saint however realtively well preserved. The problem with this is what has recently happened. Someone claimed that the body of Francis Xavier is actually that of a revered Buddhist. Not being in a position to verify whether the body is that of the Spaniard priest or of a Ceylonese Buddhist, wouldn't the spirit of the saint be a surer bet to pray to if I was so disposed, rather than his questionable body. Ah, the ways of organized religion. Roland. Sent from Samsung Mobile
[Goanet] Fw: Fw: . A TRIBUTE TO A GOAN -AN INTERVIEW WITH BERNADETTE D'SOUZA
- Original Message - From: albertdesouza1929 . To: undisclosed-recipients: Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2014 9:23 AM Subject: Fwd: Fw: . A TRIBUTE TO A GOAN -AN INTERVIEW WITH BERNADETTE D'SOUZA On Tuesday, January 28, 2014 12:31 AM, Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com wrote: AN INTERVIEW WITH BERNADETTE D'SOUZA, New Orleans' First Family Court Judge *My client was gunned down by her husband in my presence after a court proceeding. I truly believe that God had spared my life and so I became purpose driven to make a difference in the lives of the victims and their children.* http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-SlfERpU12kw/TznXHKgB0XI/AOs/az4lUnwYc10/s1600/bernadette1.JPG Bernadette D'Souza, originally hailing from Vhoddlem Bhatt, Quepem, Goa, has created waves in the American as well as the Indian presshttp://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/Print/21303.aspxfor being elected for the New Orleans' first Family Court judgeship in the first week of February. Fondly known as Busha to her relatives in Quepem, Bernadette D'Souza won the elections when two of her rivals, Kris Kiefer and Janet Ahern dropped out of the race. In her victory statement D'Souza says, I thank all the members of our community, who have entrusted me with this historic opportunity to shape the role of this new Family Court in our judicial system, including my worthy opponents, Attorneys Janet Ahern and Kris Kiefer, who have allowed me to begin the important work of this court immediately by withdrawing from this race. I want everyone to know how seriously I take that responsibility. I pledge to make you proud of my service as your first Family Court Judge. Recipient of numerous awards and honours, D'Souza is a graduate of the Bombay University and Tulane University Law School in New Orleans. She moved to the U.S. in 1978 and joins the ranks of Keith Vaz, Bobby Jindal, Sunita Williams etc. who have made it big in the West. In a very personal and frank chat Bernadette D'Souza talks about her ambitions, childhood, Bombay and Quepem - her home during her childhood years. *Tell us about your childhood in Quepem, Goa and also about your father Tony Gomes, who was a renowned musician of yesteryears.* I was born in Goa to loving parents Anthony (Tony) and Esmeralda Gomes. I have fond memories of my childhood in Quepem. Every summer holidays in May, we would visit with our grandparents, Joao and Anamaria Gomes. We had a fun time visiting with relatives. My parents often entertained friends and relatives in our home. The feast days were special. There was so much excitement around the house. To raise funds for a worthy cause, my father arranged for a New Year's Eve dance in the Quepem Municipal Garden. I remember going to see him perform. It was well-attended and the people of Quepem appreciated his kindness. It was such a proud moment for me as his daughter. My father never hesitated to give a helping hand to those in need. My father was a well renowned musician in Bollywood. My early childhood was spent in Mumbai because of my father's employment. He was the primary influence in my life and was my role model. He would take me to the film recording studios, where I watched him play his guitar. Many of my leadership traits were taken from the examples of my father. He was the first Indian musician to introduce the electric guitar in Hindi movies. I remember being introduced to the music directors and other musicians that he worked with, and was in awe of his greatness. His untimely death left a sudden void in my life and compelled me to carry on his message of striving to achieve my full potential. His outstanding legacy will always be a part of my life. *As a Catholic girl from Goa, how was it like for you growing up in Bombay? * We lived in an area that was predominantly Goan Catholics. I attended a nearby Catholic school in my early years. As the oldest child of 8 children, my father wanted me to have a good education and sent me to a convent boarding school in Siolim, Goa. My father always emphasized on how important an education was and had great expectations of me. I thrived while there and was the head girl of my class. I came back to Bombay to attend college and graduated from the University of Bombay with a degree in Psychology (with Honors). http://www.gophoto.it/view.php?i=http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-8DJYjGuxe_c/TznX3XA9kTI/AO0/RH4HoP0EJio/s1600/bernadette2.jpg *With husband Dr. Terence D'Souza* *You moved to the U.S. in 1978. Was it primarily because of academic reasons or were there any other reasons?* I came to the United States in 1978, as a young bride having married my husband, Dr. Terence D'Souza of Cuncolim, Goa. He came to the US to do a medical residency in Neurology. I chose to stay home and raise our 3 wonderful children, Lloyd, Vanessa and Christine. When our youngest entered kindergarten, I decided to go back to school and was admitted to Tulane University Law School in New Orleans. I
Re: [Goanet] The west
Dear Dr.Falcao, I do not claim to have personally witnessed the movement of scientists just before or after World War 2, but from accounts of reliable people...scientists like Werner von Braun and others like him were given admission and encouragement towards the USA. Was he jewish or german ? Many jewish people pre-1920`s were german subjects under the Kaiser. What Hitler and the Nazi party did after they took over control of the countryis still being reported by surivors Similarly many educated intellectuals chose to move to the the still evolving Soviet Union which inherited the East Germany ( part of the divided Germany after WW2 ) Even today many developing nations depend on foreign technical expertise. - Original Message - From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, January 25, 2014 1:37 PM Subject: [Goanet] The west Ana Maria Fernandes amferns_naik at hotmail.com on Sat Jan 25 08:36:49 PST 2014 wrote: USA first got hold of most of the jews and took them to the states. Jews were intellegent people and mastermind in technology. Some of the jews became top people in the government adminstration. Because of these intelligent jews USA became one of the greatest nation in the world. Then USA tried to siffon the great indian scientist. The rest you find out. COMMENT: Nowhere have I read of the US getting hold of Jews and taking them to the US. May I know from which country are “Jews”? And if US really got hold and taken Jews to the US, that, is abduction! But yes, I have heard that they have debarred one Jew from being mentioned in US schools, that is Jesus Christ. From what I have heard, the “great Indian scientist” only wore chiffon !? Maybe mistaken identity? I will find out. Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão.
Re: [Goanet] the Arun Tejpal case slowly drags on !
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Tejpal-case-Police-send-reminder-notice-to-De-Niro/articleshow/29174656.cms
Re: [Goanet] QUERY REG. TENANT POLICE VERIFICATION FORM
Celes, There has to be some quasi-legal agency that interprets these rules ( that to me seem inconsistent )it`s no use asking any senior police officers as they will most probably fob you off with some red-tape. If you could contact the lawyer Aires Rodrigues who often writes in to this forum regarding legal matters he might give you a pro-bono solution to your problems. - Original Message - From: celes fernandes cfern...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 21, 2014 9:41 AM Subject: [Goanet] QUERY REG. TENANT POLICE VERIFICATION FORM As required by Goa Police, for filling up all the details of the migrants in the Form and when the form was submitted by the Tenant to the Police Outpost. It is noticed that some charges about Rs.500.00 are levied by the Police for verification of the form for migrants. I was under the impression that this service is free. Also if it relates to a couple, then one form for the husband along with all the details and other form for the wife alongwith 5 photographs and I.D. proof each are required to be submitted. Is this procedure right or wrong as they belong to the same family. Also it is difficult to understand why the Police charges money from the Tenant. Is it a new system started that sometimes Rs.200 and above are charged. Some are not charged while some tenants are charged. Earlier no one is charging any money from the tenant as of late it is mandatory by the Director General of Police that all owners who keep tenants have to submit the form. Regards Celes
Re: [Goanet] Remembering a luminary
Folks, I apologise for my error calling Krishna Menon the foreign minister. Perhaps he was the Defence Ministerwhich would make his neglect of preparedness unforgivable ? - Original Message - From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, January 18, 2014 3:30 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Remembering a luminary On 18 January 2014 11:10, Joe Lobo jl...@rogers.com wrote: Was not this the gent , who while Foreign Minister of India..?.ignored the Chinese Threat on the NEFA border, with his protestations ofHindi- Chinee bhai, bhai whilst they slaughtered hundreds of WW-1 Lee Enfield ancient rifle toting indian soldiers as they pushed southwards across the McMahon line which was a hazy undermarcated border left as a Brit legacy COMMENT: 1: Krishna Menon was NEVER the Foreign Minister of India 2: What caught my attention in that article is that this ostensible Leftist, while a High Commissioner to the UK, rode around in a Rolls Royce presented to him by Nehru. jc
[Goanet] Fw: re : Possibly you could help locate relatives of a couple of ex-students of St. Joseph`s/ Forodhani Sec. School.
- Original Message - From: jl...@rogers.com To: goans_tanzan...@yahoogroups.com CC: dias_an...@hotmail.com Subject: re : Possibly you could help locate relatives of a couple of ex-students of St. Joseph`s/ Forodhani Sec. School. Date: Sat, 18 Jan 2014 14:49:42 -0500 Folks, A former student of mine is seeking information about the whereabouts of relatives of 2 deceased classmates of the Class of1971. 1. Feliciana Candida Fernandes who passed away on 28 November 1996. 2.Francis Fernandes By 1968 St. Joseph`s Sec. School ( Dar ) had been re-named Forodhani Sec. School and the abovementioned were students there. If you have any information about relatives of the 2 students..you could help by contacting Anita Dias (dias_an...@hotmail.com). Thank you!
Re: [Goanet] Remembering a luminary
Comment :-- Was not this the gent , who while Foreign Minister of India..?.ignored the Chinese Threat on the NEFA border, with his protestations ofHindi- Chinee bhai, bhai whilst they slaughtered hundreds of WW-1 Lee Enfield ancient rifle toting indian soldiers as they pushed southwards across the McMahon line which was a hazy undermarcated border left as a Brit legacy . - Original Message - From: Luis Vas luissr...@gmail.com To: goanet goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, January 17, 2014 5:07 AM Subject: [Goanet] Remembering a luminary Remembering a luminary P.K. AJITH KUMAR, The Hindu ‘Krishna Menon: A Forgotten Luminary,’ a documentary on V.K. Krishna Menon, was premiered in Kozhikode. Fittingly so, for Krishna Menon, the former statesman and diplomat extraordinaire, remains one of the greatest sons of Kozhikode. “The film’s international premiere was in London,” says director R. Sarath. The documentary focusses more on Menon’s life in London, which played a significant part in shaping his personality and enduring relationship with Jawaharlal Nehru. Lesser known facts like his role in co-founding Penguin Books and being the founding editor of its non-fiction series have also been featured. The 25-minute documentary, produced by Film London and Shelly Suman Productions, contains some rare clippings, including that of Krishna Menon’s famous speech at the United Nations (U.N.) in 1957 (the eight-hour speech on Kashmir still remains the longest ever speech at the U.N.). It includes stills of Krishna Menon with great minds like Albert Einstein, Robert Frost and Aldous Huxley. Krishna Menon’s relatives and Justice V.R. Krishna Iyer reminisce about the statesman. Sarath says he was always fascinated by Krishna Menon. “History is one of my favourite subjects and I feel Krishna Menon is a historical figure who has not got his due even in Kerala. He is revered a lot more in London, I found out. People associated with him and organisations like the BBC were extremely helpful. “While doing research for the film in the United Kingdom (U.K.), I found out how much goodwill Krishna Menon enjoyed there. A U.S.-based doctor Frederic Mosseri, when he came to know that I was making a film on Krishna Menon, gifted me the Rolls Royce car that Krishna Menon had used during his days as the High Commissioner in London. The doctor’s father had bought the car from Krishna Menon; that car, in fact, was presented to Krishna Menon by Nehru, who was the Prime Minister then,” says Sarath. Sarath points out that he also got a lot of help from people like A. Jayathilak, District Collector, Kozhikode, who has collected a huge amount of material on Krishna Menon. Sarath plans to screen the film in more centres. “This documentary is actually a prelude to a feature film in English on the life of Krishna Menon, titled ‘Krishna.’ The film has a huge star cast,” he adds. Watch the documentary on youtube below www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ujuCm8D40o
Re: [Goanet] an article in goa news paper !
In essencean average goa-watcher would wonder if theChief minister or the police official concerned would care.after all did not the previousHome Minister Naik of theprevious gov. not use the police harass anybody who pointed out that his own son was a drug dealer under police protection ? How surewould we be that this same system of hafta from the very top is not protecting the prostitution racket right from the IG `s office ? http://oheraldo.in/News/Main%20Page%20News/Easy-nightlife-drawing-many-tourists-to-Goa/83817.html
Re: [Goanet] A news item from the german Der Speigel news agency.
i happened on a news item on CNN this morning where this german news agency has highlighted an american related electronic spying and data collection agency base in San Antonio,Texas acting as an adjunct to the main National Security Agency (NSA) . It has been infiltrating the computers of ordinary folk be they housewives or everyday folk who browse the newsby sending a spurious message, while pretending to be a branch of Microsoft Windows or related similar systemsyou will remember the embarrasment of the american NSA wnen the renegade contractor Ed. Snowdden revealed the extent of NSA snooping on local folk. To avoid retribution he is now sheltering in Russia. By placing a bug-virus in the warning message they can take control of your computer ( including your address book ) for ends of their own ! If we thought that the colonialist nations controlled their domains in the first half of the 20th century economically, and stifling any thoughts of independence..this is a new form of control byBig Brother .reaching into your very home and mind.
Re: [Goanet] Saligao - The land of Garbage, Stink, Poison and Disease
Roland, It is very facile to ask a rhetorical to ask a q. like u have done...but you may realize that the previous Congress-like state goverment had a mind set that favoured Tourism ( including hotel owners who were never questioned by state authorities as to how they disposed their garbage..i call it the Nelson Eye attitude. they under Digamber Kamat even bent over backaward to to resort to retro-active legislation to make OK an illegal hotel extensionwhilst other house structurees within the CRZ area were torn down by the CRZ- relevant authoritywas the family who did this extension one of the prominent rich families of Goa ?). We hoped that the present BJP-led gov. in our state would be better. At least the Shah Commision with the cooperation of the Supreme Court put the illegal mining cowboys out of commission. Every state gov. in Goa has their pet projects that may be influenced by those very influential families with deep pockets that distribute small goodies at election timeto sway doubting folk into their fold. U`ll say that this happens all around the planet.but can we Goans tolerate the folk from North India and other metropolii controlling not only us .but possibly using the police authorities to silence any local niz-goenkars who protest the spoiling of the environment ! ( level of the volume of music atvenues that cater to out of state temporary visitors ) Why don`t these rich out - of - state Indians go to places in Kerala or Karnataka where the authorities cannot be bought to their compliance ? Joe Lobo - Original Message - From: roland.francis roland.fran...@ymail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, December 27, 2013 10:36 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Saligao - The land of Garbage, Stink, Poison and Disease Desmond, What were the people of Saligao, Pilerne, Calangute and Candolim doing during the past 25 years while the Saligao Plateau was being used as an illegal garbage dump? Roland. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Desmond da Costa desmonddaco...@yahoo.com Date: 27-12-2013 4:32 AM (GMT-05:00) To: Saligao Net saligao-...@googlegroups.com Cc: goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Saligao - The land of Garbage, Stink, Poison and Disease My fellow Goans and Saligaonkars, As a net result Goa still attracts more to settle here than those that leave. This is set to change especially for the beautiful villages of Saligao, Calangute, Candolim and Pilerne, with the Governments going ahead to set up a Garbage Treatement Plant (GTP) on the Saligao Plateau. The illegal Garbage Dump on the Saligao Plateau which has been in use for the last 25 years has poisoned the water of the wells and water bodies in the surrounding villages; stinks to the heavens and has made life miserable to people living in the proximity of the Garbage Dump plus caused diseases in humans and animals brought on by illegal burning of garbage containing plastics and toxic wastes. Desmond da Costa.
Re: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways
Roland, If what you say is true..you are making the C.B.P.A. sound like a Canadian Gestapo.i ask you which sane-minded goan is anxious to import anything unhygenic / disease causing product to this fair country. Thank you for your advance warning anyway. - Original Message - From: roland.francis roland.fran...@ymail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, December 20, 2013 10:28 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways Canada Border Protection Agency are very strict about bringing in ANY animal or plant products (no exceptions) into Canada in any form including cured, cooked, vacuum packed or even canned. If you answer 'yes' to the disembarking card question, they will confiscate it. If you declare as not caring any if these, their sniffer dogs will suss it out and besides confiscating, they will fine or can even deny entry to tourists. Gone are the days of bringing any foodstuff in from Goa and it's all for the better considering the poor state of product and hygiene there. Some Asians (including Indians) however persist in trying. For them there's a black mark with mandatory (rather than random) inspection of their baggage every time they enter for the next 6 years. Roland. Sent from Samsung Mobile Original message From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão drferdina...@hotmail.com Date: 20-12-2013 5:24 AM (GMT-05:00) To: goa...@goanet.org Subject: [Goanet] Experience at Jet Airways Jim, a year or so back, Jet Airways had banned cured meats in the check-in baggage. So Goans who carried sausages were offloaded of their sausages.
Re: [Goanet] a blog from goan writer Venita Coelho
This appeared on the NDTV website : http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/blog-sexual-harassment-hypocrisy-and-the-boys-club-454315?ndtv_rhs
Re: [Goanet] DR UG Barad
Jim, Dr. U.G.Barad is more like the horse that has bolted, like Bapu Asaram`s son on being exposed. - Original Message - From: Jim Fernandes amigo...@att.net To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, December 04, 2013 5:27 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] DR UG Barad Wow! Is this true, Senhor Barad? We want to hear back directly from the horses mouth Jim F New York. - Original Message - From: Garner Thomson gar...@garnerthomson.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org goa...@goanet.org Cc: Sent: Wednesday, December 4, 2013 11:24 AM Subject: [Goanet] DR UG Barad I would very much appreciate comments on the fact that a book, Get Anyone Do Anything, published this year under the authorship of Dr UG Barad, is in fact, a book written by David Lieberman, a best-selling American author, and published in 2000. Aside from the title which has the word to missing, the two books are word-for-word identical. The most cursory check on Amazon will bear this out. I must say, as a writer and a frequent visitor to Goa, I have been somewhat dubious about Dr Barad's prolific output, that he appears to have extensive knowledge of social psychology, sociology and a number of other disparate fields, and that his writing style in emails and web postings bear little resemblance to the various books he has published on the psychology of influence ... ... ...
Re: [Goanet] St Francis Xavier
Hello Francis, I just wondered if you were the same Francis who was the Warden at CISH in North London. I briefly spent some time as a student around November `73 to May `74 there while I did my industrial practice required by my course. Boas Festas toyou too ! Joe Lobo - Original Message - From: delima francis francis.del...@blueyonder.co.uk To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2013 11:13 AM Subject: [Goanet] St Francis Xavier Boas Festas to all Goanetters today on the Feast of Goa's Patron Saint, St Francis Xavier. Francis de Lima
Re: [Goanet] Need contact
Try the e-mail address :-- Bernardo de Sousa E-mail Address(es): bedeso...@gmx.ch Best wishes ! Joe Lobo ( jl...@rogers.com ) - Original Message - From: Kranti Farias krantifar...@hotmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2013 4:34 AM Subject: [Goanet] Need contact Dear Editor, Can you help me to get I touch with Mr. Bernado Elvino de souza? Thank you, Dr. Mrs. Kranti Farias (Historian )
Re: [Goanet] CATTLE ON THE ROADS
Hi John Eric ! Did you forget to attach the picture of the cattle you say were strolling across NH-17..How does the traffic on a HIGHWAY avoid these dumb beasts that their owners allow to ramble especially in sections that have no lighting at nights ? Are your ministers only coddling the mine -owning families and developers with mega projects on their minds regardless of the lack of electricity and garbage collection/disposal while they obviously line their pockets and turn Goa into a slum like Dharavi (in Mumbaai ) ?? - Original Message - From: john eric joe...@dataone.in To: Goanet Lists goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, June 28, 2013 7:39 AM Subject: [Goanet] CATTLE ON THE ROADS We were assured that arrangements were made for getting cattle off the roads. Now how many times have we heard that before! Don't they feel ashamed that government is helpless and cannot keep their promises? Here are cattle (attached picture) boldly on the highway NH-17, strolling/eating up the flower beds and young saplings just opposite HDFC Bank/Durga motors Porvorim.
Re: [Goanet] NO LAND FOR IIT IN GOA?
It`s obvious your beloved Chief Minister does not give a damn about this issue but has time to entertain the wishes of the Casino promotersand the other north indian land developers. - Original Message - From: Nelson Lopes nellope...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, June 03, 2013 3:34 AM Subject: [Goanet] NO LAND FOR IIT IN GOA? It is a pity that the premier institution IIT sanctioned for Goa has till date , no permanent address. it is utilising make shift arrangement at Farmagudi engineering college complex. The stablishment of this Institute of repute will give advantage of 50% seats to Goan students on merit among themselves. This is no mean assurance It is an open secret, how tough and difficult the competition is at all India level to qualify for such a seat. Are we going to throw away this beneficial privilege ?In the past reservations of 25 seats to Goans in National Institutes and Regional colleges have been stopped, The C.M who recently entertained the idea and the proposal for French Educational expansion must give prority to what is already guaranted. Govt has acquired acres of land, displacing people and traditional occupations. It appears there is land for every thing except IIT to take a foothold . In Goa Mr Parikar who himself is the EducationMinister and an alumini of IIT, will appreciate the difficult level in securing an admission at such institutes. Politics must not be allowed to sabotage the proposal and IIT be allowed to be moved out of Goa for want of land. Those scholars who are unable to get merit scholarships of Goa Govt, and admission on merit at all India level, can reasonably hope to be admitted on 50% reserved quota for Goans Nelson Lopes Chinchinim
Re: [Goanet] Coconut
Hey Mervyn, Your description of Barbados sounds like a mixture of old Zanzibar, Goa and heaven.my question :--is it an expensive tourist trap like any of the other Carribean islands or is it affordable to a middle class person like myself? For one thing it is closer than the rather long 20 hour air journey to Goa and the irritation of a visa visit to the Indian consulate in TO !! - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2013 10:59 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Coconut Bosco D wrote: Josenotwithstanding this thread leading you and our buddies Mervyn Rico to be flown by Captain Tobias Wilcox on Coconut Airways flight 372 to Bridgetown, Barbados [1], your below comment reminded me of a quote attributed to Steve Jobs aka the Gamechanger: A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them [2] Bosco, 1) If there is a place in the Caribbean that is almost like Goa, it has got to be Barbados. a) For starters, its flag has Poseidon's Trident on it. b) Its fish market - Oistens - has almost the same variety of seafood as the Panjim fish market. More importantly, there are women there who buy the catch as soon as the fishing boats come in, deep fry the same and serve it with a sauce made of bonnet peppers, lime, garlic and coriander with a side order of fried breadfruit. The result is close to heaven. c) Believe it or not, the sea around the island is infested with flying fish. The way you go fishing in Barbados is by renting a dory. When you get to the fishing grounds, the captain instructs you to stand up in the dory carrying a large cardboard panel. Sooner or later you will see a 16 inch flying fish get out of the water i.e. 150 yards away and fly straight towards you. All you have to do is make sure the flying fish hits your cardboard and falls into the boat. The only fish more tasty than a flying fish is Kingfish and Bangares. d) The state of the art cricket stadium there is named after Gary Sobers. e) Almost forgot, the rum, well, if I mention that, the nation will be overwhelmed with tourists and probably lose its charm. As for 2) Well my favourite Apple joke is about the actress Gwyneth Paltrow. She named her first child Apple. A comedian then remarked that if she had a second child, she would have a pair. Mervyn
Re: [Goanet] Unrest Eternally !
Venantius, I have often seemed puzzled in my mind as to how cremation of an entire body with the solid wooden casket only amounts to a small canister (urn) of ashes. I phoned a couple of funeral parlours in my area who directed me to the crematorium operators to answer my queries. Their answers seem to dodge my question. as to whether the body was removed and the casket resold ( recycled) ?.maybe you could illuminate me - Original Message - From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2013 1:07 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unrest Eternally ! Hi Mervyn, Now you make very good points. Interesting story on TStrange. Language is very interesting in where a thought points us to. I read this joke recently: A duck goes into a bar and asks for a drink. The bartender says: Can it put it on your bill. The tidal pool anecdote is really interesting, and STRANGE. The funky bit to my mind (and perhaps yours too) is the relationship of the two to each other, conflated with the tidal pool, undertow and all. Lord this is a riot. Good one. Good idea of the brass band. My brother got a brass band for my Dads funeral. The sad part was that they all looked horribly sad. I did a book on Dads funeral. And imagine that my parents had a ten piece band at their wedding. Anyway, if I was at the funeral then for sure I would have yelled at the people to snap out of it. Thanks for the clarification about Niagara. I am also very please that you did not misconstrue my exhortation to damn your ashes. Thank you. + venantius j pinto Date: Tue, 28 May 2013 16:51:22 -0700 (PDT) From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Subject: Re: [Goanet] Unrest Eternally ! Mervyn wrote: VJP, Till this very day, if you are Catholic and you conk off in Toronto and nobody comes to claim your body, Catholic Charities will bury you for free - with all the last rites. I am not sure if the cremation approval started when they started running out of space at paupers graveyards in Europe, but that is my guess. Catholic Charities here have a whole set of lawyers and they will even bury family members together when requested.? This leads me to the story of a lawyer named Thomas Strange who was shopping for a tombstone. After he had made his selection, the stone-cutter asked him what inscription he would like on it.?Here lies Thomas Strange, an honest man and a lawyer, responded our lawyer.?Sorry, but I can't do that, replied the stone-cutter. In this province, it's against the law to bury two people in the same grave, and the authorities would be confused. However, I could put 'Here lies an honest lawyer.'? But that won't let people know who it is protested the lawyer.? Sure they will, replied the stone-cutter. Everyone who reads it will think, 'That's Strange!' -x- The request that conformed into my idea of strange, however, was when I attended a ceremony where the ashes of someone and his mother-in-law were dropped into the same tidal pool.? ? As for cremation, during the process the water component of the body gets vaporized. This condenses and can later fall as rain on someone who is riding his motor-bike home. In my mind, the only better farewell scenario is to have a brass band, with happy musicians, swinging you slowly down the streets of New Orleans. This, I agree, is the height of pretentiousness. Niagara Falls is far more cheaper for my last dispatch. I am also?assured?that some of the participants will next go to one of the casino's there?to enjoy those living moments.? Mervyn PS. Gabe, rest assured that it is perfectly legal to scatter ashes into the Niagara Falls.?
Re: [Goanet] Mumbai Goan restaurants
Eugene, If one checks the video clips of Kunal Vijayakar ( the foodie) on Youtubeyou get a small segment where he checks out the old restaurants of Mumbai...including City Kitchen started by Sacru in the 50`s..and now managed by his daughter Edna who briefly mentioned her dad..and the fact that he used to travel around tplaying old for India. Did he not play for for the Lusitanians in Bombay of the old days .along with Venicio Carvalho ?
Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis
Bosco, Could you please transalate for the sake of us non-Hindi speaking goans the last phrase of your missive... Ajeeb hai ye Goa ke log . Was it a statement made by the then federal PM J.Nehru ? - Original Message - From: Bosco D bos...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2013 12:05 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goans forced to be bharatis -Original Message- From: Dr. Ferdinando dos Reis Falcão And lastly, Salazar's dictatorial regime prevailed also in proper Portugal; neither Spain nor France liberated it. The Portuguese themselves did it and became democratic. RESPONSE: Perhaps it is being suggested above that 13 years later, the Portuguese took a page from the Goan/Indian playbook and purged the dictator. No apothecary's prescription was required. Ajeeb hai ye Goa ke log!!! - B
Re: [Goanet] Goanet Reader - Escape from Zanzibar
Dear Mervyn Maciel, I was born in Zanzibar , though our family moved to Tanga and Dar-es-Salaam in late 40`s. When the Zanzibar revolution took place I was in college at St.Xaviers in Bombay and my room-mate was a boy from Z`bar called Joe Martins. He was so fearful for the fate of his family back home there that he almost gave up his studies temporarily to try and return to the island. Fortunately other relatives persuaded him to stay on. I also remember another boy called John Almeida studying at Wilson Collegei n Bombay at that time who had a brother shot dead during the early hours as he returned from church that day in Zanzibar.His body lay by the sea-shore for almost a full day before the family could recover it. Indeed for the the people of Omani origin and the other Arabs it was a bloody event as the revolutionaries who were of African origin slaughtered them for no other reason than their being viewed as oppressors belonging to the the Sultan`s race. The Sultan with a family entourage fled by boat , briefly stopping in Dar-es-salaam where the then Tanganyikan government allowed them to proceed to the protection of the U.K. where they continued to live. I am told some of the family returned to Oman where the Sultan`s family originated. - Original Message - From: Mervyn Elsie Maciel mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, January 14, 2013 3:16 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goanet Reader - Escape from Zanzibar Mervyn Lobo wrote: Sporadic shooting continued and since my uncle's house was close to the Cable and Wireless station and American Embassy (obvious targets), several of the bullets whizzed past our window.? We spoke in soft tones around the house and even had to try and get Andrew to suppress his cough as 'soldiers' were going around from house to house and we didn't know what to expect. This must have been real scary. Some Goans got shot dead during the revolution and as you can imagine, this is still a very delicate issue for their?families. Hi Mervyn, I can assure you it was truly scary. There were times when I kept moving our baby(Josey's) Moses basket from one end of the room to the other to avoid her being struck by any stray bullets. There is so much more of those fateful days that comes to mind now and I so wish I could have videoed the whole scene then. As I say, lucky to have survived! Glad you found some interest in my article. Have had some positive feedback following its publication, which I am pleased about. Regards. Mervyn M.
Re: [Goanet] Special meet at Sal to address ‘ Tillari issue’
Dear Samir, I do remember one of the Chief Ministers in Goa promising to promote agriculture at at the lower levels to encourage more home-state grown vegetables rather than the massive importation from surrounding States ( like from the Belgaum area ). Of course the attention of recent governments has been occupied by the massive illegal mining and the interests of the the family-corporate entities that depend on mining to support their family business empires. To your knowledge what has happened about the Mahdhei river issue that was a source of contention between Goa and the neighbouring state of Karnataka ?Is there any connection with this Tillari irrigation sytem and the Mhadei issue ? - Original Message - From: samir umarye samir.uma...@gmail.com To: bicholim-...@googlegroups.com; goanet@lists.goanet.org; Goa Net goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, December 29, 2012 9:15 AM Subject: [Goanet] Special meet at Sal to address ‘ Tillari issue’ -- Samir Umarye BICHOLIM: Concerned about the plight of the farmers affected by the ongoing agitation of the Tillari rehabilitees, a special gram sabha has been convened at Sal village on January 6 to chalk out the village’s response to the issue. The meeting is significant since many residents of Sal have begun accusing the Tillari- affected people living at Kholpewadi- Sal of indirectly helping the agitators. “ We have been told that many from Kholpewadi are supporting the agitators. If this is the case, they do not have any right to live in the village. They should make their stand clear on this issue, either by supporting us or leaving the village and the State,” said a farmer. The farmers claimed they were not fully convinced about constant assurances by authorities and had, therefore, decided to hold the gram sabha. “ We have been informed that the two states will meet on January 18 to resolve the issue, but there is no guarantee that the problem will be sorted out during that meeting,” the farmer added. Said Sal Sarpanch, Ghanasham Raut, “ We have decided to discuss the problem in the gram sabha on January 6.” On Friday, the PWD placed about 320 mts of pipeline to pump water from the Chapora River into the affected fields. “ In next two days, we will supply water to some of the affected fields,” said PWD officials present at the site.
Re: [Goanet] Bringing Goans back to Goa is our dream Deputy CM of Goa
Manuel, Stating my opinions frankly which will irritate many in officialdom in federal ( central government ) and Goa State ministries they give , as we say in north america , a tinker`s da** , if so called well -meaning goans who have resided abroad return or not .and know that the red tape is there to prevent their return do so. These sort of goans will only point out the aberrations in activities that are meant to help rich and influential out - of - state Indians who`d like to operate businesses and questionable activities with no criticism , whether they be former military stalwarts or former governors or favoured - by- the- present- State- authorities. Indian consulates abroad constrained by their masters in the foreign ministry in N.D. have their hands tied and are forced to follw every p and q in the instructions from the hq in N. D. - Original Message - From: manuel tavares duk...@bell.net To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, December 16, 2012 4:17 PM Subject: [Goanet] Bringing Goans back to Goa is our dream Deputy CM of Goa Maria has raised some very good points and the Minister responsible for looking into these affairts should take note or someone should bring these to his attention. As she states, I am reproducing below her list.( Goanet Vol 7 Issue 1034) I have heard from many that the personnel at the Indian consular facilities make is so difficult to obtain OCI documents that a lot of people give up in desperation and instead apply for the regular visas which is also a hassle. These are not cheap either and something has to be done about this. Besides the personnel at these facilities are often rude and uncooperative. India should select empathetic people to represent their interests abroad and not send uncouth personnel who I am sure are dispatched due to having some political clout and are a disgrace to India. This must be stopped. Some of the personnel cannot even express themselves in understandable English. Manuel ( Eddie) Tavares. 1) ALLOW DUAL CITIZENSHIP 2) Stop imposing fines and heavy charges for surrendering EU passports and providing OCI 3) Arrange cheaper fares throughout the year by our national carrier as the budgeted airlines' fares are mostly soaring and passengers have to pay for food and baggage 4) Create employment not only for returning Goans but also for those who are already residing in Goa and are unemployed... rather than bringing workers from other Indian states. To bring about improvements in Goa: 1) Electricity and water - free flow round-the-clock 2) Market/Shopkeepers/groceries - hygiene and price regulation whereby Municipality personnel should have regular checks and discourage bribes 3) Streamline transportation system - stricter rules for violators perhaps introduce traffic signals and zebra crossing thus having pedestrians safely crossing roads - imposing fines rather than encouraging bribes would educate the public in safety awareness. 4) Garbage tips to be increased in cities and villages which should be cleared twice a day - fine those spitting and urinating in public. 5) Restaurants to be inspected frequently ensuring hygiene and mainly garbage/oils disposal which blocks the main drains and creates unhygienic standards for surrounding residents and increasing pests like rats, rodents, flies and mosquitoes - visit to hospitals is a clear proof as malaria patients are on the rise. hospitals have to be upgraded - more beds, hospital supplies,proper nursing staff who should be soft spoken/caring, toilets refurbished and attended to on hourly basis and proper canteens. Of course the list can go on and on but this can be attended to by the Ministers who take their oaths in bringing about changes in their respective territories.
Re: [Goanet] Bal Thackeray
Eugene, You , having lived and worked in ,should not be amazed. Most Indian politicians and that now includes our Goans make no mention of the goon and mob( strong arm ) tactics Bal Thakre and his Shiv Sena employed. You realise that the BJP are strongly allied with orgs. like the Shiv Sena. As long as your words are going to win you more favour or votes in the future you will even justify murder and intimidation like most of the elite politicians in mumbai who heaped praise on the man... this goan Chairman has jumped on the band wagon. - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, November 19, 2012 9:20 AM Subject: [Goanet] Bal Thackeray amazed to read Arthur D'Silva, Chairman, Margao Municipal Congress, in his tribute, say ... your thoughts principles influence my social political path. Eugen Sent from my iPhone
Re: [Goanet] Ismaili Trusts
Eric, We goans from East Africa have encountered the Ismaili community since the 1940`s. Followers of the Aga Khan they are of the Shia side of Islam. They were mainly business folk/ traders/merchants who were westernized in their dress and habits. Being very progressive they were the one of the first communities in E.A. to build schools, hospitals, community centres and ,of course their mosques that they called jamat-khanas. Though they tended to speak Kutchee among themselves there ( they still do so here in Toronto ) many of their community rose to high positions including ministerships in E.A. governments as these folk spoke English as well as the goans. They have a thriving community in Toronto and their charitable trusts support many uplift activities in E.A and places like Tadjikistan,Uzbeckistan etc; where their missionaries have made converts to the Ismaili faith. They are about to open a large museum of Islamic Culture and community centre where the Bata Centre formerly stood near Eglinton Avenue East and Don Valley Parkway. I hear this huge venture has been designed by a goan architect Charles Correia from India after an international contest awarded him the honour. -Original Message- From: goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org [mailto:goanet-boun...@lists.goanet.org] On Behalf Of eric pinto Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:39 AM To: bo...@goanet.org; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! Subject: [Goanet] Ismaili Trusts Thanks, Bosco. A marvellous product of the communities outreach is the magnificent new Saifee Hospital on Queens Road. ( you can google) They dutifully pay the ten percent tithe that is expected of them into the the Aga Khan Trust, every year. The result is a endless round of building and charitable activities. These Kutchees settled in Bombay two centuries ago. The upper class make no public display of religion. We could learn much from them. eric. - The newslink to Eric's post below can be found at: http://www.mumbaimirror.com/index.aspx?page=article§id=15contentid=20120927 20120927042322110d461fc2b Additional comments: In general it appears the densely populated areas of South Bombay - Chor Bazaar, Bhuleshwar, Lohar Chawl, Kalbadevi, Masjid Bunder, Dhobitalao, etc are going to go through a bunch of demolitions and renewal that may well end up with a number of high-rises. The western sea face north of Dadar looks a lot different than it looked 20 years ago. .
Re: [Goanet] Emu Meat For The Heart - Available in Goa.
Carlos, An excellent pro-heart meat suggested by you however how many goans in the diaspora population or in Goa would have access at a reasonable prices even after your efforts to popularise the Emu flesh? It has been suggested that turkeys are the best converters of grain to lean flesh which good for the heart and available in the western countries at a higher price. but NOTcurrently in Goa. - Original Message - From: Carlos Mascarenhas solracma...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org; goanet-ow...@lists.goanet.org; bo...@goanet.org bosp...@gmail.com Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 1:26 AM Subject: [Goanet] Emu Meat For The Heart - Available in Goa. Dear Readers: In August last I wrote here about The Emu as a Pet and in your Diet. In summary, the article was about my having two(2) pairs of Emu, my love for exotic birds, having them in my Garça Branca AyurvedicBotanical Gardens in Loutolim for visitors to see and appreciate; in researching the bird preparatory to questions I would be asked by visitors, I was awed and amazed at its factology - in particular, the 2% fat content in its edible meat, compared to 25% in Pork, 23% in Mutton, 42% in Beef, 17% in Breasts of Chicken or Turkey - these being the fleshes we glut over in our daily diets and on festival occasions. As a consequence of the above and having tested Emu in all our traditional dishes I have undertaken a CRUSADE whose objective is to convert Goans to this Poultry in preference to overindulging in other meats. My program within the Crusade is three-fold presently: Firstly, the EMU FAN CLUB OF GOA. Membership, both adult and kids, is FREE. The sole objective is to love the Emu and spread the health benefits it affords us. The site of the Club is within the Gardens where the Emu is resident. So, it is necessary to visit the Gardens which are open to the public Thursdays to Mondays from 9am to 4pm. An attractive and eye-catching button badge is issued to each member along with a Factology Card on the Emu. Secondly, an inquisitive and adventurous individual/member can put together a group of 10 to 12 adults and book an EMU LUNCHEON PICNIC in our Garden of Eden. This will afford you a fun/educational/scenic and bonding time in a beautiful environment of Nature complete with a luncheon which includes a dish of Emu cooked to specifications by Chef Carlos. The consequence of these picnics will be increasing Members and the insatiable desire to obtain the meat and continue consumption at home. The process here is to email me at solracma...@gmail.com, receive the flyer and program attachment, book a specific date, come and enjoy. Thirdly, obtaining the meat: There are no farms in the State of Goa; these abound in other States in India; consequently, the meat has to be imported. I do this for my Luncheon Picnics and home consumption - I will/would/have imported in excess to meet member requests and spread of my Crusade. The price is Rs.400 per kg of freeze/frozen/packed boneless halal meat with a shelf-life of six months from slaughter/freezing. I can be reached at 9822584861/6481231 - a reminder that Loutolim is in South Goa. I have spoken to a number of Doctor friends. As we know and without intention to malign our cultural group, we are imbued with a love for sumptuous/oily/fried FOODS; consequently, illnesses associated with this lifestyle abound and the Medical Profession incessantly advise us to cut-down/stop/exercise or pay the price for obesity, blocked arteries, diabetes etc. So, here is a meat that can sustain your love for our traditional dishes - it is that versatile - and yet meet the medical counsel to gear-down on fatty poisons. The American Medical Association and major Health Fitness professionals call this meat The meat for the Heart and not for nothing. So, get on board and bring Emu Meat to Goa on a state-wide scale. My regards in health. Carlos www.garcabranca.com -- Carlos and Merlyn The Garça Branca Goa's Favourite Bed and Breakfast Resort Goa's Favourite Botanical Gardens www.garcabranca.com Ph.No: +919822584861
Re: [Goanet] Why India Invaded Goa
Roland, The very logical and articulate defence of India`s action in taking over and pushing out the Portuguese administration fom Goa by the gent Mr. Kaul has been presented by you. We have also to remind ourselves that thousands of goans with over four hundred years of portuguese paternal treatment were fully convinced that they were full Portuguese citizens in an overseas province with representation by their own kith and kin ata parliament in Lisbon as opposed to the folk in India who under British colonial rule were subservient subjects of the Crown were forced to defer to the Brit admin. in India and London prior to independence in 1947, were ignored.. So loyal were many goans in Goa to their portuguese identity that they emigrated in droves to Mocambique ,Angola, and the mainland of Portugal after the Indian take-over..where India in a direct rule from Delhi rushed to bring in Indians from other states to their new Union Territory to suppress any vestiages of loyalty to Portugal by the goans. One also has to admit that prominent goans who had moved away from Goa to India during British rule for purposes of education, jobs and general advancement now felt fully Indian in ethos and loyalty and advocated the eviction of the Portuguese.. including Mr. Soares who edited theGoan Tribune in Bombay, Cardinal Valerian Gracias who was considered not only as a prince of the catholic church in India but a focus of general opinion of goans dispersed in India, My only regret is that the establishment of a mini-nation of Goa , not unlike Monaco or Leichstenstein, completely seperate from the hordes of the Indian Union was never realised. - Original Message - From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com To: 'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!' goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, October 22, 2012 12:01 AM Subject: [Goanet] Why India Invaded Goa Perhaps BC, JC and GF among others could tell us where Kaul is going wrong. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VRWTzp3RlJk Roland. Toronto.
Re: [Goanet] the illegal mining in Goa
Sirs, I go back to an original letter that I had written a few months ago and was supressed by whomevever the admin.person/ facilitator ? was at that time on GoaNet When the then CM Digamber Kamat who held the portfolio of Mining Minister for approximately 12 years claimed that he was never aware of complaints of such illegal mining in Goa...it certainly stank to high heaven of cover-up and/or corruption possibly orchestrated by the Congress High command in In New Delhi/ Madame Sonia Gandhi with the aquiescence of the PM Shri Manmohan singh to accept payments into the Congress Party coffers.with a view to winning the next elections in Goa. Now with many of our goans who respect the Congress party as being non-communalbut non-corrupt ?? how many beleive that that the standard operating procedure (s.o.p.) has cesaed to exist under the present BJP government ?
Re: [Goanet] the economic turmoil that sometimes that sometimes sets us goan diaspora to thinking .
Many of us goans , whose parents emigrated from Goa, even in Portuguese colonial times ( though our little region of Goa was technically , by the then Portuguese standards an overeas province of Portugal ).and to be honest in those days the 30`s , 40`s and 50`s we were proud of our goans who represented us...and fought out our parochial ( provincial ) battles in a parliament that recognised us goans , however a small percentage of the mainland Portugal that we actually were. My father in Goa realized that in those days .. the mid thirties ( I guess guided by the older scions of our family)...that further development was more likely in British India of those times. Accordingly , and with the help other folk of our village who had realised that same view earlier ,he moved to Bombay and eventually to East Africa where the Brit Government was recruiting civil servants willing to work hard , often under difficult conditions in lonely outposts. His hard work paid off and his progeny eventually became followers of what thay saw as a just system. the Brit system of governance that gradually handed over that same responsibility to the locals in Africa , albeit sometimes with a struggle ( eg; Kenya ) So to a certain extent , many of us goans who imbibed western capitalistic values .which sometimes feed on gaining from our investements in third world compaines feel a twinge of guilt that we are indirectly still exploiting the poorer 3rd world nations. just so we can show to ourselves thatwe made awise investment that has earned us dividends . How may of us goans now based comfortably ( financially) in North America think of helping the African countries that helped us get here ? Many of us will say that it was the blood , sweat and hard work of our grand-daddies and daddies that did this. Aside from the long prayers for our immediate ancestors, and breast - beating for our present sins how many of us goans are ready to financially help the immediate hunger and drought situations in African countries that our parents and some of us resided in ??? Joe Lobo ( Tanzania )
Re: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors
Mervyn, I must thank you for revealing history to me that many us goans from Dar were oblivious of !! - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca To: estb.1994! Goa'spremieremailinglist goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, July 09, 2012 7:08 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goans in Tanganyika and the British Governors Folks, Last weekend, I scanned and put online the souvenir for the Dar es Salaam Institute's Platinum Anniversary, printed in 1994. In the souvenir, I found a great article from The Goan Voice, no less, circa 1959, which is a mini-history of Goans in Dar es Salaam. This was the first time I read this article as I was a year old when it was written and not in Tanzania when it was republished. I found it fascinating. For example, the land for the Goan clubhouse was bought from the Custodian of Enemy Property. Had the Goans bought the land a few years earlier, they would have bought it from the then colonial masters, the Germans. Another interesting fact is that every time the Goans needed someone to be present at an important event, they called in the Governor General. Here are the links for pages 11, 12 and 13 for your enjoyment: http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529789038/sizes/l/in/photostream/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529794054/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ http://www.flickr.com/photos/45002663@N00/7529796188/sizes/l/in/set-72157630484041774/ Mervyn Lobo
Re: [Goanet] the signs of future events and trends in Goa.
Observing the news projected by the newsagencies in Goa. one feels that with the economic imperative of staying as a tourist destination that earns the State a lot of money for the the locals and the other out-of-state Indian entrpreneurs, we shall have to knuckle under the policies of outside interests, Be it the Congress Party that has alliances with the politicians in neighbouring Karnantaka or now the BJP which has kith-and - kin relationships with neigbouring state of Maharashtra the smallest state in the Unionwill be controlled covertly by outside interests .Like areas in southern Spain we will have endure the concretisation of farmland to accomodate housing for the guests, be they welcome or not by the older goan families.
Re: [Goanet] APPEAL OF DR. LEO REBELLO -- INDIAN PEOPLE'S PRESIDENTIALCANDIDATE 2012 ELECTIONS
Dr. Rebello, It looks like your system omitted the campaign card and its contents. jl...@rogers.com - Original Message - From: Dr. Leo Rebello prof.leorebe...@gmail.com To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@zapata.dreamhost.com Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: [Goanet] APPEAL OF DR. LEO REBELLO -- INDIAN PEOPLE'S PRESIDENTIALCANDIDATE 2012 ELECTIONS SEE THE CAMPAIGN CARD, READ THE APPEAL CAREFULLY AND WATCH THE 7-MINUTES SHORT VIDEO AND SPREAD THE WORD. THERE COMES A TIME WHEN WE NEED TO STAND UP. DR. LEO REBELLO -- TEL. NO. 28872741
Re: [Goanet] How`s this for a bribe in defence force circles ??
If you remember the Bofors heavy gun scandal that was swept under the carpet since it implicated then PM, Rajiv Gandhi. here`s another recent one for you :--- http://www.ndtv.com/article/india/14-cr-bribe-offer-cbi-probe-on-army-chief-to-give-written-statement-190299?pfrom=home-lateststories --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Goan Engleesh
To remember the early Goan immigrants to Zanzibar in the very early 1900`s I need go no further than than the husband of of my god-mother. a gent who later ran a bar ( Victory Bar )in that island. It is reported that he , excitedly watching a soccer game, wanting to encourage his team shouted repeatedly ... KICK LOUD .to the forwards in his favourites. his literal transalation of the Konkaniforsan mar ...that the name Kick Loud Fernandes was then attributed to him only to distinguish him from the other Fernandes`s in Zanzibar. In my memory the only way they spoke of the family wasthe kickloud Fernandes family so as to identify them. - Original Message - From: Mervyn Elsie Maciel mervynels.watuwasha...@gmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 1:41 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goan Engleesh Just as Frederick's ear was attracted to their innovative use of language, my shrinking memory took me back to my holidays in my ancestral village of Saloi(Salvador-do-Mundo). When playing in a friendly football match on an open field, an oft heard expression was: shoot men ( meaning, 'pass the ball') Wish I could think of a few more, but there must be many youngsters(burge) on goanet who could come up with better gems. Mervyn Maciel --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Why can't India be like Britain?
Eric, Looking at your message conveying Selma`s thoughts from the bottom up..unfortunately the petition to support Goa`s first tiger Reserve caught my eye. If one recounts the incidents in recent years of leopards wandering away from the forests into villages and attacking villagers, we might be happy to protect the wild animals ( the tourism ministry will be glad to entice foreigners and out -of -state locals to view them) but are the locals going to be supportive of this step ? Being part of a larger unit gives one access to more resources... with the attendant problem of sharing in the population pressures ( the hordes of out-of state job seekers coming to Goa ). Possibly prior to December 1961, the then Foreign Minister Krishna Menon must have intimated to the UN body that there were seperatists advocating a free Monaco -like state before the Indian Union took it over. Sometimes i think old Chairman Mao`s adage thatall power grows out of the barrel of a gun worked for India. - Original Message - From: eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com To: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, January 11, 2012 7:36 AM Subject: [Goanet] Why can't India be like Britain? Selma joins the Woices in the Vilderness !! eric. With Scotland preparing for a referendum which will decide if it will separate from the UK and form an independent nation, I have to ask myself, as an Indian citizen, why can't India behave in such a civilized manner? Why must Kashmiris and the North East suffer decades of bloodshed and violence? Why can't we understand that these regions have expressed a desire to be independent of India and that we must concede to their collective aspirations. Why can't Goa be given Special Status? Why must our idea of a nation be based on medieval thought process that equate it with territorial occupation and nationalist jingoism. Why can't we be pave the way, be the torchbearers of how humanity must move forward? Whatever happened to India, who once produced statesmen of the calibre of Nehru? Best, selma --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Floriano's experience in dealing with the Goa ElectionCommission
Socorrokar, I had a chuckle reading your response to Floriano`s comments... it probably isStandard Operating Procedure all over India government offices but the Indian psyche has been firmly formed, that one once is is the authority he / she can treat the applicant as S** Tand prevaricate forever. Only the measures that Indira Gandhi adopted during her much maligned Emergencywhere onecould complain to an independent Ombudsman-like person that would expedite procedures and punish the offending (un)civil governmentservant , would serve to help. As a matter of interest how many of the promises made by your local Goan politicians are actually kept after they are elected unless heavily bribed ? - Original Message - From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 9:49 AM Subject: [Goanet] Floriano's experience in dealing with the Goa ElectionCommission I had a hearty laugh at Floriano's vivid description of his interaction with the staff at the Goa Election Commission. This appears to be par for the course at all government offices in India. Unless one is aggresive, you cannot get anything done. The Concerned officer is always away from his desk, in a meeting, out of station (which station I dont know), the required document cannot be located or the ultimate - Write an application letter. The response if ever will come long after the Elections ! And all this happens after you stand there for several minutes, trying to get the attention of the clerk, by coughing, clearing your throat, jangling your keys etc. while the clerk studiously avoids looking at you. Eventually after several minutes engrossed in his top priority work of shuffling papers, he may deign to look up at you and ask arrogantly - what do you want ?. Ye mere Bharat he. I have had similar experiences at some private companies where you would expect to get better service because they are dependant on the customer. That is another story for another day. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] Bwana Karani/Sir Richard Turnbull
Hi Vivian, A few years ago I made enquiries directed to the author of Bwana Karani himself .. I was quite chuffed to actually get a personal reply by e-mail. He explained at that time t he few copies printed had sold out and since he had volunteered a share of the income to a Charity in nothern Kenya I could send him a small cheque to cover the cost of the bookpostage and he would mail it to me from a small number of books he had kept for his own purposes .I never got around to doing that and from the various discussions surrounding the book on GoaNet.. i concluded that his experinces as a Clerk in the colonial government service were very similar to folk who had served the Brits. My dad was a government servant too but never distinguished himself as the author has done. If you go thru` the archives of GoaNet correspondence or contact someone in London who knows of the gent... you might be able to contact him like I did. - Original Message - From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2012 8:55 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Bwana Karani/Sir Richard Turnbull As a former, albeit short term member of the Colonial Civil Service in what was then called Tanganyika, I enjoyed Roland's account of the book titled Bwana Karani translated as Mister Clerk in English. Now I am trying to get a copy of the book, so I can read it in its entirety. One thing I remember about the Colonial Civil Service is that instead of Yours faithfully or Yours Truly, all correspondence including from the Governor himself ended with the words I am sir, your obedient servant followed by the signature. Quaint and reinforces the notion that Civil servants are servants of the public, unlike these days in Goa. As to Tony Barros's question, yes, this was the same Sir Richard Turnbull who rose through the ranks of the Colonial Civil Service in East Africa from District Commissioner to Provincial Commisioner to Governor and eventually Governor General of newly independent Tanganyika. It wa he who in his capacity as Governor, cut the ribbon and inaugurated the new Goan Institute in Dar es Salaam, Tanganyika in December 1959. It was through the petition of his former Goan secretary, that Sir Richard Turnbull approved the issuance of a work permit for me to re-enter Tanganyika in 1959, a gesture that I can never forget. Having worked with Goans for a long time he had a very high regard for Goans, who were the backbone of the Civil Service and Banking throughout East Africa in the colonial era. Now let me search for the book Bwana Karani. --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php --- --- Protect Goa's natural beauty Support Goa's first Tiger Reserve Sign the petition at: http://www.goanet.org/petition/petition.php ---
Re: [Goanet] On DGP Arya
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Dear Sandeep,
Your extract from Nirmala `s column. State Gov. suffers from
a strange malaise.while obliquely imputing to Aires Rodrigues
the fault of over-doing his criticism of events in Goa..
including the use of Mr. Kantak as a legal aide to the State ,
brings out in the open the strange goings-on in Goa, even from
the time of the previous state gov. under the chief -ministership of
Bab, Manohar Parrikar.
As a goan resident abroad , who follows events in Goa via the
media and from reports of goans who go for extended periods back
to their ancestral villages one sees a lot ofsmoke from
obviously underlying garbage burning !!
Why does the present CM who admits responsibility for the
mining dept. portfolio for the last 10/ 11 yearsseem to
ignore the illegalities to let small operators mine illegaly and
some of the larger mining families get away with enviromental
degradation of smaller village agriculture/ water table concerns
concerns. To me this seems to point to some similarities with
the CM of Karnataka, Mr. Yedurappa who has been indicted recently
for massive wrong-doings .
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Subject: [Goanet] On DGP Arya
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Nirmala Fernandes writes on DGP Arya in her column 'State Government
suffers from a strange malaise' which has appeared in today's Gomantak
Times( Dec 29 Edition).
Extract from the column as below:
He(Aires Rodrigues) made a big hoohaa about DGP Arya's visit to
Gokarna. Without permission as he calls it. When DGP Arya says he took
the vehicle with oral permission I believe him and I have every reason
to do so. I was a young girl of 24 years when DGP Arya first came to
Goa as the ASP. My father worked for the Goa Police and I remember Dad
narrating to us the things that Arya was doing. I quote my father ASP
Arya is an upright and sincere cop; he will go a long way. Sure, he
has come and gone a long way even before his tenure was over because
he made the Govt very very uncomfortable. And Goa's self appointed
lawyer helped to make a mountain out of a molehill.
In the write up he gave in a local newspaper some days back justifying
DGP Arya's transfer, he makes a case why Arya had to go. Not a word
about the good work he had started and would have finished had he been
here for his full term.
The Govt needs to understand this. The people of Goa are watching you,
and every action you take is being noted; for Goa and against Goa and
this transfer was definitely against the interests of Goa and Goans.
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Re: [Goanet] On the new moon.
Eric, Your e-mail appears to be exactlylike the New Moonalmost invisible ! - Original Message - From: eric pinto ericpin...@yahoo.com To: GOA2 goa...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, August 01, 2011 8:28 AM Subject: [Goanet] On the new moon. Eyes to the Sky, July 31- August 6, 2011 Milky Way Lights Up as Crescent Moon Sets The crescent moon setting over the city The luminous crescent moon gives away all its charms in the early evening and leaves the night sky dark for stargazing. We've a week of crescents ahead. It's the best time of the month to make a date to enjoy the splendid sky show from sunset through twilight and nightfall. Summer's long twilight is still cresting, brilliant stars appear before dark and then, if you can get away from light pollution, you'll find the Milky Way lights up after the crescent moon sets. Yesterday was new moon, the day that begins the lunar cycle, when the moon is between the Earth and the sun. The side of the moon facing the sun is lit and the sun's light does not shine on the side that faces Earth, so it is invisible to us. As the moon moves in its orbit around the Earth a thin crescent of light becomes visible low to the horizon following sundown. This is the waxing moon that begins today as just a wisp of a glowing crescent. Each day it becomes more robust until half moon (first quarter) on Saturday. Sunset is at 8:12 pm today, moonset at 8:32 pm. The first crescent is so close to the sun that even with a clear view to the western horizon it may be lost in the sun's glare. However, everyday this week moonset is half an hour later and sunset a minute earlier. By Wednesday, the crescent slides under the horizon at 10:06 pm, when night falls, ushering in a fine view of the south to north sweep of the Milky Way, our home galaxy. Find a place away from artificial light to linger under the arc of stardust, stars, lit gases and planets that is our place in the universe. Judy Isacoff Photo by Robert Simko photo by Robert Simko We welcome your comme All articles and photographs in the Broadsheet DAILY are copyrighted and may not be reprinted or republished without written permission. © 2011 Forward email This email was sent to ericpin...@yahoo.com by edi...@ebroadsheet.com | Update Profile/Email Address | Instant removal with SafeUnsubscribe™ | Privacy Policy. The Broadsheet| 375 South End Avenue| New York| NY| 10280
Re: [Goanet] Eugene Correia`s comments on the Global Goan Convention in London
Eugene Correia wrote : Here is the convention celebrating 50 years of Goa's liberation, and Martins writes Goa's annexation to India. It would be right on Martins' part to say Mea Culpa. My comment :-- I don`t think it behoves a Mea Culpa from Mr. Martins about his personal opinion of the transfer of Goa to India from the Portuguese overseas province state. Goa was forcibly taken by disproportionately large armed forces of India from a small garrison of Portuguese and Goan defenders. That is a fact recounted by goans in the Operation Vijay accounts. It was also formally documented in the Indian parliament in Delhi as an annexation.
Re: [Goanet] What Is Happening To India?
Roland, As someone of goan origin who did much of my schooling in India..it was a well known fact in the 1950`s that many a free government service could only be got with a bit of chai- money ( a small bribe). As years have progressed after independence, even the usually honest middle class government servants from the customs officer a foreign citizen first met on arrival to the policeman one had to report any loss to .have grown more greedy and corrupt. I have friends here in Toronto who tell me they will never travel to India lest they be cornered by the corrupt officials there. So while the Indian media lauds the shady millionaires and billionairesmost foreign corporations probably include the bribe money to be paid as the cost of doing business there. - Original Message - From: Roland Francis roland.fran...@gmail.com To: 'Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994!' goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2011 11:05 PM Subject: [Goanet] What Is Happening To India? Every day dawns with the unearthing of multi-crore scandals in India's governments and public institutions. Today the media is full of the Karnataka Mining scam worth 1800 crore rupees and the NTRO (National Technical Research Organisation) one of the country's intelligence agencies, Procurement and Recruitment Scam worth Rs 1000 crore. For how long can Bharat Mata bleed without it's vital signs breaking down? The only bright spot on India's darkest nights is the dynamism of the media in spotlighting such corruption issues. Roland Toronto.
Re: [Goanet] the goans in Swindon
Quote from Selma Carvalho: Rest assured within one generation the Goans in Swindon will also be wearing suits, speaking with an accent and holding top jobs. Best, Selma Selma, I do second your optimistic opinion of thesehardworking and ambitious folk. We goans have been known for our loyalty to our employers and our spirit of toughing it out thru` hard times epecially in the colonies and far-flung corners of the now defunct British Empire. You obviously imply that that the children will adapt , maybe better than their parents , and move ahead.
Re: [Goanet] Goa police hunt for Aussie, accused of cheating travel firms
Gabe, In answer to your question : What are the chances of of a goan getting so much credit.. ? Zilch, Nothing, Nil !! Maybe those goan businessmen and shopkeepers who rush to serve any white-skinned person ahead of local goans who are patiently waiting for service, will learn a lesson from this episode. - Original Message - From: Gabe Menezes gabe.mene...@gmail.com To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2011 4:34 AM Subject: [Goanet] Goa police hunt for Aussie,accused of cheating travel firms Goa police hunt for Aussie, accused of cheating travel firmsPTI | 12:07 PM,Jul 07,2011 Panaji, Jul 7 (PTI) Goa Police are searching for an Australian national, Sean Demont, who has been accused of cheating several businessmen in the state's South district. Deputy Superintendent of Police (DySP) Umesh Gaonkar said the Aussie has been accused of cheating in several instances including non-payment of air ticket money to a travel firm. Gaonkar said the complaints against Demont had started pouring from coastal Colva police station since beginning of this year, when he failed to pay Rs 17 lakh that he owed to a travel agency. The DySP said that Timoty Colaco living in Benaulim village complained to local police station that Demont defaulted the payment of travel bills. Similar complaint was filed by another local Cristina Rebello, who had accused that she was cheated by him for Rs 2.68 lakh. Another lady, F Pereira has lodged complaint with Colva police stating that Demont had borrowed Rs 23.5 lakh from her, which he never returned. Gaonkar said that the police are investigating the background of Demont, who has been living in South Goa since some months. He is missing and we are on look out for him, the DySP said. Police sources said that the Australian national was earlier apprehended by police in a accident case in Colva village in March 2011. After the accident, Demont had lodged complaint with the Inspector General of Police (IGP) accusing local police of attaching huge amount of cash and other items from his car without issuing him a receipt. COMMENT: From the Travel agents to the crook to the Police. What are the chances of a Goan getting so much credit to buy tickets? -- DEV BOREM KORUM Gabe Menezes.
[Goanet] Thoughts on our Goa politicians
Most politicians on this planet tell us that they seek power by hook , crook or , even buying votes with gifts like our goan politicians. because without power ( in the democratic process ) nothing can be achieved. One wonders if this power is sought to improve the conditions of the poor in their constituencies or to be in a position to award their rich industrial friends favours beyond the law ( even if it means bending the rules or changinging the lawfor a hidden price ?? ) so as to enhance their financial position. Starting at the state level one sees the dispossesion of tribal lands to enable industrial corporations to operate profitably ( the politicos will claim it helps the economic situation in their state the compensatory land given to the peasants being a paltry amount in some barren place to fend for themselves.. the UPA government at the Centre thinks this is the equitable way to deal with humble folk with no political clout !) Is our own CM in Goa any different in turning a blind eye to illegal mining that his own Ministers are involved in.??... after all he takes his orders from Madame Sonia and the High Command in New Delhi who cater first to the industialists .
Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution
Santosh, What SOTER has failed to mention about the 1961 annexation of Goa by the Indian army is that it came about as the then PM Jawaharlal Nehru embarrased by his inability to persuade vast sections of Goans in Goa ( notably the Catholics who aquiesced to the idea of Portuguese citizenship as equal citizens who were represented in Lisbon by goan representatives in a federal parliament as being from an overseas province rather than a subjugated colony ) to engage in bloody revolution. Goans resident in India , loyal to India were urging thefreeingof goa from what they saw as domination by an European Portugal with goan middle class of beauracrats acting in consort with them.I remember the editor of the Goan Tribune in Bombay then , ( was he a Soares ?? ) even exhorting the brave ones in Bombay to join the satyagrahis in their forceful forays into Goa . Santosh , you cannot deny that after India , ignoring the U.N. liberated Goa and used a Military governor to rule by Presidential decree for over a year. That is the style of a military occupier keeping down a conquered people. The fact most senior positions in goa were advertised first in Delhi and other states so that competent goans in Goa then could be bypassed for for out-of- state Indians has been swept under the carpet in the media. Follwing that our hindu goans including that Shri Bandodkar agitated for Goa to be merged into Maharashtra so as to share the spoils of conquest with his marathi kith and kin with scant regard for the different identity that Goa had by virtue of its 450 -year history. Remember theZalas Pahije ! cries that wer raised in the then Bombay regarding Goa being swallowed by them ? - Original Message - From: Santosh Helekar chimbel...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Saturday, June 18, 2011 12:01 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] There cannot be another Goan Revolution It appears that in the following various Indian communities such as Rajputs, Lingayats, other Hindus and Muslims are being portrayed negatively. Ramani, a Goan name is also dragged into the mix. Among the communities that are quite predictably left out are non-Indians such as Russians. Cheers, Santosh --- On Sat, 6/18/11, SOTER so...@bsnl.in wrote: It was in 1946 that Ram Manohar Lohia raised the banner of revolt at Margao against the Portuguese Government. All that the revolution could acheive fifteen years later was a forced intrusion by the Indian Army into Goa which in international fora was considered as an annexation. The reason was obvious. The band of marathi socialists deputed from across the borders could not win the hearts and minds of the Goan people. As this fact became clear, the possibility of the Portuguese Government granting autonomy to Goa became a cause for nervousness for an ambitious and greedy Maharashtra. Panic set into its ranks leading to an armed take over of Goa. It is for this reason that the so called freedom fighters still do not feel liberated from the Portuguese and find every excuse to disturb the peace of this State. Sixty five years later there cannot be another political revolution with a Gupta as the Goan Opinion maker, a Pandit as the Goan historian, a Vagela as Goa's activist, a Sharma as the Goan educationist, a Ramani as the embassador of Goan culture, a Gauda as the Sarpanch, some Khan as the Goan industrialist, a Bajpai as the custodian of Goan properties, Gundurao as your Goan banker, a Sonak as the Goan legal advisor and the rest on the migrant wagon refusing to accept Konkani as their mother tongue. This is the irony. The fruits of a revolution started 65 years ago can be seen in a Baba and a Togadia dictating the medium of instruction for Goans and a Montek Singh Ahluwalia charting the course of Goan economy. A Malia heightens the spirits and an Advani defines Tourism. The chain does not end here. Every damn decision on the life and livelihood of Goa has to be activated by a Sonia or a Gadkari sitting in Delhi. It is an era where in the lion sits with the lamb, the socialists and communists embrace the communalists at Azad maidan. All thatis possible are micro revolutions to wipe out the traces of the true Goan people. The connotation of the word revolution in liberated Goa has also been redefined in the context of globalisation and liberalisation. To be a modern day revolutionary for Goa one needs to qualify as a boot licker, pimp, broker, fraudster, yesman, conman for the ruling class/castes and their supporting class of industrialists. These results and titles conferred upon Goans gets published in Goa's news journals manned by agents from beyond the borders. The only other title that comes cheap if one does
Re: [Goanet] Book Review
Indeed , this book review comes as an eye opener to many of us goans who have been resident overseas sometimes through a succesion of three generations. Many of us who are great, or greater grandchildren of the diaspora and have lost touch with the original India (which was in many cases was a collection of kingdoms united later by outside invaders like the Moghuls or even the forces of Alexander of Macedonia} now look on India, Pakistan and Nepal as single entities until recently viewed as third world states. We overlook the fact that systemic discrimination due to ancient tribal,caste and social class biases still exist today in and around the subcontin ent. The fact that a large Maoist type conflict between the poorer tribals and villagers and the existing government stems from struggle between capitalistic economies and the peasants who are being dispossesed of their traditional agricultural lands. I shall definitely make an effort to get hold of the book thru` my contacts in Goa. - Original Message - From: dale luis menezes dale_mene...@rediffmail.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 1:39 AM Subject: [Goanet] Book Review Sir, Kindly publish my book review which appeared on GT today. AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF STIGMATIZAGTION AND DISCRIMINATION By DALE LUIS MENEZES India is a diverse country of varied heritage where Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians live in peace and harmony; this is an oft heard refrain. But did it ever occur to us that in this country there are other identities that are not Hindus, Muslims, Sikhs and Christians? Tribal groups, low castes and host of other subalterns do not fit the broad categorization mentioned above. They are so isolated from us socially and politically that one never has any idea about their existence and their miserable plight. Crushed by grinding poverty and the caste system, their voice barely reaches our cities – big and small – where all the power is concentrated. The Branded: Uchalya is the eye-opening autobiography of Laxman Gaikwad, translated from the original Marathi by P A Kolharkar. Gaikwad belongs to the community of Uchalya/Pathruts, a tribe notified by the British Raj as criminal under the Criminal Tribes’ Act, first passed in 1871 (but now denotified). They generally engage in odd jobs that are seasonally available. Due to crushing poverty and the stigma of belonging to a ‘criminal’ community, the tribesmen of Laxman Gaikwad has no choice but to resort to stealing or theft. Gaikwad tells the story of his early life along with the people and the significant others who surrounded and shaped him. Gaikwad prefers his book to be read from a sociological perspective rather than a literary one. Gaikwad’s community involved themselves in pick-pocketing because the caste-ridden hierarchy had rejected this group and consigned them to live as animals. Every novitiate ‘thief’ is initiated into the art of stealing. Since a gang member should not reveal his accomplices to the police, a novice is deliberately subjected to severe beatings that make them ‘immune’ to police torture. Gaikwad gives a terrifying picture of such an initiation. The Bharat blade used to cut the pockets is always worshipped like a deity before a thieving expedition because it provided them their livelihood. Gaikwad gives a crude and at times graphic description of the pitiable condition that he and his extended family had to endure, the difficulties his family faced to get proper meals and how they were beaten, harassed and hounded and their women molested (generally on false pretense) by the police. Such a description in coarse and crude language of the atrocities caused by the system in which these groups are forced to live would not go down well with people who are used to the luxury of shiny cars and air-conditioned buildings or who are just born in an upper caste family. The Pathruts never usually school their wards. So when Gaikwad finds himself in a school because his father believes strongly in education, they both have to face adverse reaction from the family and their community. One thing that struck me about Gaikwad’s schooling experience is that the ‘ideal’ is far removed from (his) ‘reality’. Consider this, “When I used to open the text-book for Marathi, on the first page, I used to see: ‘India is my country…proud of its rich and varied heritage.’ I used to wonder why if all this were true, we were beaten with false allegation of theft…I often wonder why if Bharat is our country, we are discriminated against, why our race is branded and treated as a thieves’ community.” While in school, Gaikwad is attracted to bhajans and kirtans and excels in performing them. Participating in these religious functions, the effects of Sanskritization start affecting his mind. “I began to say that eating crabs, fish, pigs every day was a
Re: [Goanet] Was Floriano Vaz a denationalised Goan.....
Eugene, Like police all over the planet who while preserving law and order and their political masters , the Goa Police probably had no qualms defending the Gujerat SRP in their execution of the the victim . That`s the way the services operate. Kill one or a few and you`ll scare the rest who might protest. Did you not read reports of the G-20 crowd control ? where police in Toronto kettled innocent people on their way to / from work and in one case beat a person who photographed them beating peaceful protestors on the lawns of Queen`s Park which I guess had suddenly turned into hallowed ground . - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia eugene.corr...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, June 14, 2011 5:51 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Was Floriano Vaz a denationalised Goan. I went though my files and found this in the Pulse (December 1987), published by the Goan Overseas Association, and which I edited at that time. I am giving below the sidebar to the story, When Goa Went Wild, I wrote from reading various newspapers and providing my own opinion. I have scanned the pages and I have corrected some spelling mistakes. If there are any more, please excuse me. In the meantime I am still awaiting reply to my queries from Miquel and Soter. Yes Miquel I was living in wonderland then and still now, but I assume you are living in hinterland (or perhaps in some botanical garden) or possibly digging up the reports relating to Floriano's death in your specialized way as a botanist. I repeat what Miquel wrotes, Then why bother to comment on Florian Vaz you do not remember?? Perhaps, Goa became a STATE because he was KILLED. His life would have been inconsequential as a Gawddi boy in Gogol. How come you do not REMEMBER some of the things that I mention in the story below? As a concluding para, Miquel says, Eugene-bab, Those who do not remember their history are condemned to see it repeat these words have written and read before. Miquel bab, even from a long distance I keep track of Goa's history, both past and present. As for Soter, he may be too busy attacking some NGOs. It is indeed sad that these two worthies cannot find stories that would put the Floriano case in proper perspective. It is also sad thaf both these activists went missing in action. Eugene KILLING OF FLORIANO With no ready access to news in Goa, how far the magisterial enquiry into the Floriano Vaz case has progressed is hard to know. But the discrepanices in official reports issued immediately after Floriano's death showed that the unarmed and helpless youth was shot dead from point-blank range. According to investigative~ reports, Floriono Vaz died after he was hit by a bullet fired from the rifle of head constable Rajaram Pawar of the Gujarat Security Reserve Police (SRP), who were rushed to Goa to control the agitation that was launched a day prior to the incident on December 20. Police versions of the incident said that on that fateful day, Sudin Bhagvanta Naique, a member of a business family of Margao, could not pass as the road, a few kilometers outside Margao, was blocked. He and his ox-employee Floriano engaged in a verbal duel. A neighbour, Jose Francisco Gomes, heard a single gun shot. He ran to the spot where three houses, all belonging to the Vaz family, are situated. He saw Floriano lying on the ground with blood oozing out of his stomach. H. noticed the veh-icle belonging to Sudin Naique parked not too far away, beside a SRP van. The police first said that Flori-ano and three others had assailed sub-inspector Narayan Yetale, belonging to Goa Police. The police report said that the three persons attempted to take the inspector's revolver. The SRP constable fired, hitting Vaz. Immediately after, th. police corrected this version by issuing another report. In the second version the police noted that a violent mob of 400- to 500-strong attacked the policemen who fired and a bullet hit Florlano. Later enquires revealed that Floriano was shot by a 303 rifle and that he died from a wound fatal in the ordinary course of nature. However the police, instead of conducting a full inquiry into the incident, charged the deceased and the mob with several counts, ranging from putting up rood blocks to snatching a policeman's revolver. The police report said that the body had no external injur-ies, but later added another line that said the body was turned and excepting the ban-daged port (bullet wound) no ether injuries were seen. Investigations later revealed that the body had about 15 marks which, according to hospital sources, were from a police lathi (stick). The post-morton report noted that a couple of marks proved that the victim tried to protect himself from the beating. According to independing findings, Sudin Naique returned with
Re: [Goanet] Nach go Nola ?
Hi Mr. Colaco, Strangely similar to Roland Francis` account many months ago.. Mezak Mure which I think happened somewhere in north Goa ( was it Bastora or thereabouts ? ) when as youngsters my brother and I were boarders with our aunt Emilia in Bombay of of the 50`s , we were in the months of April- May introduced to the joys of rural Goa. Aunt Emilia, keen to introduce us to traditions informed us that she had to have us registered aszonekars of the village of Pilerne where our dad had originated. To see the tomes of old sombre looking rgisters which the escrivao perused as he questioned aunt about us, was a small education in itself. I don`t remember the details but Aunt Emilia`s eyes had that gleam of success that these 2 young afrikars were now joining the rest their forebears in the tomes. The escrivao , she later told us , had informed her that about 5 generations ago our branch of g-grandfather`s family had moved from Nachinola to Pilerne. I wonder if it had any connection to Nola dancing for some agent !! - Original Message - From: J. Colaco jc cola...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org; Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 8:20 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet]MY FIRST SCHOOL AND TEACHER – PART 2? Domnic Fernandes wrote: ‘Similarly, here I recall a small village in Goa – Nachinola. As per the ancestors, there was a woman who was an expert dancer in the village. One day, a foreigner arrived to name the village. When he saw Nola dancing, he named the village ‘NACHINOLA’ - NACH-GO-NOLA (dance-oh-Nola.) Many are not aware of this tiny village, Nachinola. You must visit it and witness the spot where Nola danced, which we believe is still there.’ -RESPONSE Dear Dominic, My Dad told me of the 'origin' of that name when he realised that I was going to be an in-law of Nachinola. Interesting that Marshall and I have some common paths (St Vincent's Poona Nachinola). Yes, I too heard about that tragic story. Having said that, folklore also has the village south of Navelim (Dramapur) as originating from Dhor, Mar ani Pur (Catch, beat up and Bury). BTW: I always wondered why it was that the folks from the formerly-picturesque village of Assolna were said to be a constipated lot. jc
Re: [Goanet] Negligence of Power Dept:LETS DO THIS FOR GOA: SORT OUTTHE POWER DEPT.
Gerald, I commend you for being ready to reach into his pocket and fund and be ready assist the criminal prosecution of those responsible ! How ever would the police in Goa be ready to accept a F.I.R. ? Is the Power Dept. part of the PWD ? If so, the PWD minister Shri Churchill Alemao should be doing something about the incident. - Original Message - From: Gerald Fernandes cdoger...@yahoo.co.in To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 9:37 PM Subject: [Goanet] Negligence of Power Dept:LETS DO THIS FOR GOA: SORT OUTTHE POWER DEPT. We are deeply touched by the loss of Arjun. I woud be personally willing to aid, assist and coordinate the criminal prosecution of the Chief Electrical Engineer, the concerned Electrical Staff ( whatever their designations). This MUST STOP. We have earlier lost friends and their kids in Morjim. This f .g cavalier attidude must be made to change Lets do this for Goa and people resident in Goa. In deep sorrow, Gerald Fernandes
Re: [Goanet] an article by Fr. De Souza in the National Post ( Canada):-- Christians may need to start fighting back.
http://fullcomment.nationalpost.com/2011/01/06/father-raymond-j-de-souza-christians-may-need-to-start-fighting-back/ --- NEW BOOK: 'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services' Copies now available at: GOA: Literati (2277740), Other India (2263306), Broadway (6647038), Mandovi (2427904), Noel DSilva Associates (9823120454 / 9096781714), Confidant / Golden Heart Emp (2732450), David Co (2730326), Vardaan (9527463684) SERV / RETD Def Offrs in Goa: O/o Sainik Co-op Hse Bldg Sty, Def Col, Porvorim (2417288) MUMBAI: David Co (22019010) PUNE: Manneys (26131683), Popular (25678327) BENGALURU: Narayan (22865800) DELHI: Ritana (24617278) ONLINE (worldwide delivery): http://www.ritanabooks.com/booksdistri.htm, http://goa1556.goa-india.org ---
Re: [Goanet] A subject close to the poverty in India discussion.
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- NEW BOOK: 'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services' With Foreword by Gen SF Rodrigues, PVSM, VSM, ADC (retd) former Chief of Indian Army Staff and Governor, Punjab Administrator, Chandigarh UT Copies now available at: GOA: Literati (2277740), Other India (2263306), Broadway (6647038), Mandovi (2427904), Noel DSilva Associates (9823120454 / 9096781714), Confidant / Golden Heart Emp (2732450), David Co (2730326), Vardaan (9527463684) SERV / RETD Def Offrs in Goa: O/o Sainik Co-op Hse Bldg Sty, Def Col, Porvorim (2417288) MUMBAI: David Co (22019010) PUNE: Manneys (26131683), Popular (25678327) BENGALURU: Narayan (22865800) DELHI: Ritana (24617278) ONLINE (worldwide delivery): http://www.ritanabooks.com, http://goa1556.goa-india.org --- Here is an article from the Hindu newspaper that provides food for thought on the poverty in India discussion :- http://www.thehindu.com/opinion/columns/sainath/article995828.ece?homepage=true
Re: [Goanet] do you wonder why the indian population keeps growing?
--- http://www.GOANET.org --- NEW BOOK: 'PATRIOTISM IN ACTION: Goans in Indias Defence Services' With Foreword by Gen SF Rodrigues, PVSM, VSM, ADC (retd) former Chief of Indian Army Staff and Governor, Punjab Administrator, Chandigarh UT Copies now available at: GOA: Literati (2277740), Other India (2263306), Broadway (6647038), Mandovi (2427904), Noel DSilva Associates (9823120454 / 9096781714), Confidant / Golden Heart Emp (2732450), David Co (2730326), Vardaan (9527463684) SERV / RETD Def Offrs in Goa: O/o Sainik Co-op Hse Bldg Sty, Def Col, Porvorim (2417288) MUMBAI: David Co (22019010) PUNE: Manneys (26131683), Popular (25678327) BENGALURU: Narayan (22865800) DELHI: Ritana (24617278) ONLINE (worldwide delivery): http://www.ritanabooks.com, http://goa1556.goa-india.org --- http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1342465/A-father-94-Indian-farmer-claims-worlds-oldest-dad--wants-MORE-children.html
[Goanet] Azim Premji donates $ 2 billion to educational foundation..
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Azim-Premji-pledges-2bn-to-foundation/articleshow/7025608.cms
Re: [Goanet] the celebration of the feast of Saint Francis Xavier by the G.O.A of Toronto
Dear folk of our GoaNet, Last Sunday ( the 28th of November ) after many years of absence ( about 11 to be exact) I attended the celebration of the SFX feast done by our local G.O. A. (Goan Overseas Association ) of Toronto , Canada and I was pleasantly surprised by the careful organisation by the three ladies who organised every detail very lovingly and carefully . From the numerous volunteers including the choir who sang old and loved konkani hymns during the Mass, including Fr. Cecil Noronha ,the celebrant, who in his usual humourous style exhorted us to be faithful to our catholic faith despite the usual north american temptations of a consumer economy, and in these days of being politically correct which requires to set aside our moral beliefs to be more accomodating to the present culture, and the various other goan folk who gave of their time and efforts to make this event a success, I take my hat off to them ! I say kudos to the Toronto G.O. A who thru ` the many unsung folk who take the trouble to keep our devotion toamche Goencho Saibe , Saint Francis Xavier alive. May our efforts to help in the canonisation of Padre Agnel DeSouza and the Blessed Jose Vaz be looked at favourably by the Vatican and the Lord in Heaven. Joe Lobo
Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone?
Hi Selma, Speaking of halal meat.just as the jewish people of yore spoke of kosher products it was originally to do with healthy meat. Note that the jews abhored the use of swine flesh as they regarded the pig as a dirty animal that would consume any garbage. Included in the kosher list it was taboo to eat any anything that was a bottom -feeder of the oceans and lakes ,as they felt the filth accumulated there.so there went crustaceans like lobster and and shrimp as they were suspect of ingesting dirt to the taboo list. When cows died in the field and people passed this off as good meat , the fact that the blood coagulated and would not flow freely when the cow was slaughtered by cutting the jugular arteryit was a sign of suspect death of the cow from other causes ( diseases) One of the factories we were taken to in our last year of school was a meat-packing plant called Tanganyika Packers on the outskirts. of Dar-es-Salaam ( Tanzania )..which produced the famous corned beef that was exported to many mid -East countries like the U.A.E. states, Bahrain etc. When we saw how the cattle coming down a ramp were electrically shocked into a state of stupor before their throats were cut and the blood allowed to flow,.we , like you , questioned the apparent cruelty of allowing the blood to flowit was explained to us that muslim practice of slaughter required this to verify that the cow was healthyto declare the meat thereof as halal or kosher to be acceptable in the muslim states to where it waw exported. Of course now in western countries we have vet. officers who check the healthy state of the animal prior to slaughter - Original Message - From: Carvalho elisabeth_...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2010 2:59 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Winemaking, anyone? JC wrote: I do not support FN's sudden interest in producing alcohol in Goa - unless, like with the Irish Poteen or Potcheen, he intends to use all the Goa newspapers to aid in the fermentation process. I'd specifically recommend the use of the rag also known as the Heraldo - Response: Incase you didn't notice, mine was just a humourous response. But for the record, I think drinking urine, be it cow's or your own (a la Moraji) is injurious to health. There is a reason why it is released by the body. It's because the body deems it unnecessary. And I am seriously opposed to halal meat. And yes, I will never buy it. I wouldn't take it even if it is given away free. It is one thing to kill an animal for consumption, it is quite another thing to let it suffer while it dies. There is a difference. If I could control my urges, I would have become a vegetarian a lot time ago. I tried several times but failed. That doesn't mean, I should continue supporting a practice that is clearly inhumane. We are not living in the 14th century, we are living in the 21st century. This concept that something associated with religion has to be condoned, is facile at best. Lastly, what I do support is FN's or anyone else's interest in wine making. Why not? We don't live in a nanny state or police state or even a state that needs to be morally policed. We are all capable of making up our own minds whether we want a drink or not. A drink that doesn't have urine in it (hopefully). By the way FN's interest in wine-making is not sudden. Last year he did a whole video on it. Maybe my memory is just better. I remember everything that happened - not just last year. Best, selma
Re: [Goanet] percentage of rural folk with access to clean piped water ?
How does the rural population in Tanzania or Goa fare as ,in relation to the folk described in this afternoon newspaper article, as regards the access to clean tap water ? http://www.afternoondc.in/city-news/less-than-a-third-of-ruralites-have-access-to-tap-water/article_12606 _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] Goa Caju Feni
Vivian, Like many goans and other sons of the soil who love their organic brews and the distillates thereof you show a true affection for the urak and the resultant fenis. One must be aware that more than a little of this nectar of the coconut and cashew apple fruits too often , especially with the 90 to 95 proof strength and the anacardic acid associated with the cashew mash used can prove deletious to your gut linings..ask the older doctors around your Socorro/Porvorim areas for their views. Besides sometimes the metallic piping used in distilling ( other than the bamboo you spoke of ) may have traces of heavy metals (Cd, Bi,..etc). I personally do not mind an occasional tipple.. but woul advise against large qties. daily. - Original Message - From: Vivian A. DSouza socorro...@yahoo.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, November 11, 2010 8:32 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Goa Caju Feni Very nice article about the preparation of Goa Caju Feni. I am surrounded by neighbors who distill Caju Feni at home. The equipment used to distill Urak and Feni in my village is called Baati spelt phonetically. Instead of the juice being put in a barrel I saw a large clay pot with a bamboo pipe sealed around the top. A fire is stoked under this clay pot to give out steam which travels along the bamboo pipe. The bamboo pipe leads almost horizontally to a clay kolso which is sealed at the joint. With a small tambleo cold water is poured constantly over the clay kolso to cool the steam travelling down the bamboo pipe so it turns into the liquid Urak or Feni. The whole process looks primitive, but the end product is heavenly. I was given a real cotti of the first distillate, which was slightly warm. I must say I was in 7th heaven. Here's cheers to Goa's Feni !!! _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet] re : a competition of political styles in Goa.
I happened to watch, on an obscure TV channel, a program on the challenge in Brazil.. of the opposing styles of capitalism ( where powerful corporations from North America Europe and other western powers) found a way to live with a socialistic way of thinking that would benefit the poor and disadvantaged that survived a minimal existence in the favelas of rich cities and the rural areas of Brazil ...being constantly reminded that the nation ,though called an awakening giant ,has to live to the dictates of the I.M.F and the World. One realises that the desire for more profit in the West Europe clashed with the need for survival and improvement in developing countries . There maybe a parallel with the State of Goa ( one of the smallest states in the Indian republic ) and the richer more populous and industrial states that abound around, and to the north and south of it. While rich industrial corporations with the help of the Centre may make a killing on real estate developments and mining ventures they will reap the rewards to invest back in their home states..not giving a thought to how badly damaged they leave the state of Goa environmentalythe the NCP government in Delhi will cling to power closing their eyes to all degredation they cause to other states ( does Madam Sonia give a damn if tribals starve , if lands grabbed from them if it benifits the rich industrial families who are Congress supporters ? ) Does , for that matter, our CM care as long as his party , supposedly secular, triumphs at the next elections.?so that various NCP supporting groups like the mine-owner families and the rich supporters are still there to carry on the pillaging of the land, even if it causes pollution of the water-table . When we goans awake to find that the state is no longer a tourist attraction..it will be too late.to roll back history and stop the powerful from leeting us sink into decay. Whle I do not advocate the saffron supporting BJP party.i think we need to introspect before it`s too late ! _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
[Goanet] re : a portrai t of M.K. Gandhi by Mishal Hussein of the BBC done recently.
I`m sure quite a few of the oldies ( ie: those over sixty years of age ) on this forum peruse the BBC website for soccer or other news items we can trust for veracity ... or listen to the overseas radio short wave serviceor watch the overseas TV news and other programs beamed to North America and the Carribbean area.very much like our parents used to do in the bad old days of brit. colonialism in the 30`s , 40`s or even the 50`s and 60`s as the local language broadcasts ( such as Radio Tanzania) began to dominate the airwaves with a nationalistic patriotism that was so evident in East Africa. By chance , yesterday in Toronto ,I happened on a mini documentary done by the vivacious Mishal Hussein of the overseas service of the BBC ,.. physically following the footsteps of Mahatma ( great soul) Gandhi from his early days in South Africa, then on to graduation as a lawyer in England , his return to India, his ever - so- strong desire to rid the subcontinent of foreign colonial domination..by peaceful means and moral persuasion rather than the use of violence. Despite being a man of immense popularity with the Indian masses at that time he turned down any promise of political office in the future ...( which Indian with ambition would do that these days...except in the hope of becoming an Ambani, Birla or Mallya type millionaire ?) . She met with folk in their eighties in age who workedwith Mohandas Gandhi in the pre-independence era and his establishment of an ashram (refuge ) in Sabarmati, Gujerat where he got ordinary folk to work ina simple manner rather than be sucked into the materialistic manipualtions of the Brits to tighten their hold on developing economy. Remember that the Sir Winston Churchill who we so regularly laud for his war-time pugnacity in standing up to the German Third Reich with ambitons to dominate the planet , was also someone who called M.K Gandhi a naked fakir and a sexual deviant who had no place in the Brit scheme of plans for their jewel in the Crown of the Empire. I just was sorry that I did not have a spare video-cassette handy to immediately tape this excellently done show which lasted for about an hour. If anybody knows of a forthcoming re- broadcast of this program.please do let me know. We Tanzanians should be happy that the father of our nation of Tanganyika , Julius Nyerere, chose the gandhian principle of non-violence in the pursuit of freedom.and the despising of tribalism stating that all peoples of all colours were equal regardless of their tribe or ehnic originensuing peace and the establishment of democracy eventually after a long period of one-party rule . _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] A lot of fraud revealed in H2-B visa entry from India to the U.S.A.
From the Times of India news service on 2nd November 2010 :.. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/business/india-business/US-report-details-fraud-in-popular-H-2B-visa-programme/articleshow/6857494.cms _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ tambdimati: the Goa review is a community blog of original _/ art, writing, music, news and commentary from and about the _/ smallest state in the subcontinent. check out the newest _/ member of the Goanet family daily at _/ http://www.tambdimati.com. _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/
Re: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics)
- Original Message - From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Friday, October 15, 2010 8:06 AM Subject: [Goanet] GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics) GBA meeting at Azad Maidan (A report with clip pics) clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM Where is everybody? For god sake it was not something meant for a particular religion Nor it was meant for a particular community or tribe or caste It was for Goa or Goans as a whole. Why should we go? It’s not our Job, we don’t understand it any way. What’s in there for us? Meaning – Cash incentives, Free transport, snacks/drinks etc (Some southern Political rallies etc, leaders offer Rs.15,000 to whoever organises a bus full of people (say 25-30). Out of which he will have to pay Rs.100 per head and the bus charges say Rs.2000-3000). Snacks and water bottles borned by the politicians. (Looks like we even accept cash to stay out) Who else will be there? Meaning Celebrities like Hema Sardesai, Remo Fernandes, Oscar Rebello, Prince Jacob, Nana Patekar etc (if nothing for us then..) Ami paunaim (We are not free) Some may say 'Will let you know' Meaning - after consulting their political leaders to whom they support When the horse is thirsty, one can only take the horse to the pond and not the pond to the horse Ami nidentle kedna utt’ttole gai? (When will we wake up?) At first, on seeing the situation at around 4.30pm, we even thought the meeting might have been cancelled as the CM is out of Goa etc The police force outnumbered those who actually present. Police were on all side of the Azad Maidan. Infact, two of the 4 gates were seen closed, guarded by police There were 5 police buses, one of Lady Police only. Where is everybody? If you take away 50 odd media/press persons, the remainder would be less than 150 that’s around 5.30pm Imagine, what would be the resultant figure if we also take away Moira, Tivim, Nuvem, Ambelim etc delegation /group Amongst others, we also saw Fr. Erimito Rebelo, Prajal Sakhardande, Florian Lobo etc In this clip you will also see 2-3 speakers in the later half http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Zn19byDKfM For pics sent earlier, you may refer this link http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2010-October/200257.html joego...@yahoo.co.uk for Goa NRI related info... http://in.groups.yahoo.com/group/GOAN-NRI/ For Goan Video Clips http://youtube.com/joeukgoa In Goa, Dial 1 0 8 For Hospital, Police, Fire etc
Re: [Goanet] Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt I-2 (Towards a Goodness of Time)
Venantius, In my opinion President Eisenhower was just the same of one of your signatories to the Declaration of Independence ie : General George Washington.he beleived that all men were equal ,except Black people, It took Abraham Lincoln to declare the immorality of slavery. What did Gen. Eisenhower do in his eight years of presidency for black men who had fought and died for the USA in the 2nd WW.? It appears , as far he was concerned, they were just fit to sit at the back of the buses. He did squat about the inequality of racial segregation. it took a president like John F. Kennedy to declare that segregation and denying the blacks equal opprtunity was immoral and had to be done away with. - Original Message - From: Venantius J Pinto venantius.pi...@gmail.com To: Goanet Mail list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, October 06, 2010 10:27 PM Subject: [Goanet] Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt I-2 (Towards a Goodness of Time) Worth a listen, Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 1-2 (IN REVERSE order) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRDp4OF5Igfeature=related Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCRDp4OF5Igfeature=related Eisenhower's Farewell Address Jan 17, 1961 Pt 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jnaM8TqAzzofeature=related venantius j pinto * ** *
Re: [Goanet] Talking photos: Curious to know about this buildinghistory
Gabriel, The Erlich Pinto you mentioned of the IAF who scouted out the Dabolim airport is actually Mervyn Pinto ,originally of Poona. i beleive he rose to become a Squadron Leader in the IAF. - Original Message - From: Gabriel de Figueiredo gdefigueir...@yahoo.com.au To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Friday, September 03, 2010 10:48 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Talking photos: Curious to know about this buildinghistory It was the quartel during the Portuguese times, and entrance to it (as were other Portuguese instalations) was open to any Goan, contrary to what it is now. I remember having lost a cap in between the quartel and and the Instituto Vasco de Gama (as IMB was knwon then) whilst returning back from a soccer game when I was a five year old... ah! memories! There was little if any secrecy in most places in those days. I read somewhere that Erlich Pinto was actually able to go to on the tarmac at Dabolim without being challenged, when he was on a spying trip to Goa a couple of months before he actually bombed the place. There was trust in the fellow human being, something that has long been lost. - Original Message From: JoeGoaUk joego...@yahoo.co.uk To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Sat, 4 September, 2010 11:40:58 AM Subject: [Goanet] Talking photos: Curious to know about this building history Curious to know about this building history If it was build during pre-liberation era, just wondering what was here before Army took it over? * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now available in Toronto, a few copies of *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Contact Bosco D'Mello bo...@goanet.org (416) 803-7264 http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Now available in Toronto, a few copies of *Into The Diaspora Wilderness* by Selma Carvalho. Contact Bosco D'Mello bo...@goanet.org (416) 803-7264 http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
[Goanet] Millionaire in beggars' home
Millionaire in beggars' home
By: Vinod Kumar Menon Date: 2010-07-31 Place: Mumbai
Constable assumes 62-year-old Colaba resident limping across street is a
vagabond; dumps him at beggars' home in Chembur
He had stepped out of home to go to the bank. Instead, he landed in a
home for beggars, thanks to the unnecessary and extra concern shown by a
policeman.
Colaba resident Robert D'souza (62), who is visually challenged, was
picked up by a police constable in the first week of this month and,
much against D'souza's wishes, taken to the Beggars' Home in Chembur.
The beggars' home is, as its name suggests, a charitable home that takes
cares of mendicants.
That morning, I was passing by Cusrow Baug in Colaba, to go Central
Bank's Fort branch. I am blind and also have a wound, said D'souza.
With a walking stick for support, I was requesting passers-by to help
me to the bus stop when a sturdy hand grabbed me by the arm and dragged
into a waiting vehicle.
D'souza said no questions were asked and before he knew it he was taken
to the home for beggars. How right is it on the part of the police to
do such a thing? he asks staring into nothingness.
This is the second such case of a man who is not a beggar but is being
forced to live in a beggars' home. MiD DAY reported a similar case in
its edition dated July 29 ('We beg to differ').
D'souza, a bachelor, has since been moved out of the home for beggars
and has now been shifted to a home for dying destitute persons at Tagore
Nagar in Vikhroli.
Food for rot
Life at the beggars' home was a nightmare. We were treated worse than
prisoners and the food served was not meant for human beings, D'souza
told MiD DAY.
We were served half-cooked rice, a watery dal and boiled brinjal for
lunch and dinner.
This was in sharp contrast to the daily diet regimen that this former
employee of a multinational firm was used to in the comforts of his home.
My daily diet comprised a chocolate-flavoured milk drink, sweet corn
soup and bread.
D'souza is annoyed at the constable who mistook him for a beggar and
took him to the charity home.
If mum were alive...
Life was always a bed of roses for D'souza till his mother, Mariya,
passed away 17 years ago.
She used to let out part of their 1,200-sq-ft apartment to paying
guests, some of who included foreigners, said D'souza who lost his
father when he was very young. He has no siblings.
After his mother's death, life was never the same. I had developed
cataract in both eyes.
During the surgery, I developed complications to the retina, which
caused complete loss of vision, said D'souza. Soon after losing my
vision, I also lost my job.
No home, no money
As if the cruel blow that fate dealt him were not enough, there was more
in store. D'souza said he was cheated of his home by people who took
advantage of his blindness.
I wanted to dispose of my property in 1993. I was offered Rs 14 lakh
for the apartment but I thought I could get more, recalled D'souza.
I was introduced to one Kulbhushan Malik who agreed to pay Rs 20 lakh
besides free treatment at a hospital in Chennai to help restore my vision.
D'souza said that Malik made him sign some documents, only to learn
later that he had been taken for a ride. Not only did I lose the house,
the money was not paid either.
I should have struck the first deal and taken Rs 14 lakh, but greed got
the better of me, D'souza said, a tinge of regret in his voice.
After lodging a police complaint against Malik, D'souza said the
fraudster was arrested. The legal matter is, however, pending in court.
Besides, a locker which his mother operated at Bank of India's Fountain
branch still lies untouched.
My mother had kept gold ornaments, some foreign currency and rent
receipts in the locker, he recalled. Surely, the valuables might run
into a few lakhs of rupees.
Fear stalks
Safely ensconced at the Home for Dying Destitutes at Vikhroli, D'souza
is scared to venture out alone on the streets.
I do not want to be hauled by another policeman and taken to the
beggars' home again. I'm a free human being and want to be like that,
he said.
The Other Side
Beggars' Home
FROM D'souza's speech and demeanour, I figured he is not a beggar. So,
I contacted the destitute home myself, said Superintendent of Beggars'
Home Gautam Arwel.
About the quality of food served at the home, he said, We cook from
what the government supplies to us and cannot do anything about it.
The police
I have no clue about this particular incident. I will have to enquire
before making any comment, said Assistant Commissioner of Police
(Colaba division) Iqbal Shaikh.
About the criteria they look for when they pick up a 'beggar', Shaikh
said, We take action only against those who are spotted begging, in
keeping with the Bombay Prevention of Begging Act 1959.
Home for dying destitute
D'souza seems to be from a decent family and he told me
[Goanet] Russian visitors being given carte-blanche visas at Dabolim ?
Noting a previous letter today about foreign nationals overstaying their visitors` visas in India..one sees another article in todays TOI about Goa immigration authorities being complicit in the issuance of visas to Russian tourists arriving without any background checks or verification. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Free-for-all-Russians-dont-need-visa-in-Goa/articleshow/5182267.cms * * * IS YOURS one of the stories of Goans on board the S.S. Dwarka, or at the Strait of Hormuz, Basra or Bahrain, Dubai, Swindon, Mombasa, Poona or Rangoon? Selma Carvalho's new book *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* docks at many other ports. Get your copy from Broadways, Panjim [9822488564] Rs 295. Pp extra. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
Re: [Goanet] Russian visitors being given carte-blanche visas at Dabolim ?
Imho, other nationalities do not get bossy once they get into Goa. The Israeli and the Russians are known to corral properties be they restauarants or beach areas where they will bar admittance to local goans. While you personally may think that is an acceptable way for a foreigner on a work permit or visitors visa to act, obviously it has come to the attention of the Indian media who take exception to it . - Original Message - From: Frederick Noronha f...@goa-india.org To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 5:31 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Russian visitors being given carte-blanche visas at Dabolim ? Joe lOBO wrote: Noting a previous letter today about foreign nationals overstaying their visitors` visas in India..one sees another article in todays TOI about Goa immigration authorities being complicit in the issuance of visas to Russian tourists arriving without any background checks or verification. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/Free-for-all-Russians-dont-need-visa-in-Goa/articleshow/5182267.cms Any idea why the Russians are specially targeted by the media? Are they the much-derided ghantis of the international tourism trade? See the manner in which a Russian (and, to some extent, Israeli too) case is handled as compared to those of other tourists! FN * * * UK STOCKS EXHAUSTED! After a community-supported launch at Croydon, Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* is available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. Ask a friend to pick up a copy. Details of the book http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * * * * UK STOCKS EXHAUSTED! After a community-supported launch at Croydon, Selma Carvalho's *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* is available at Broadways Book Centre, Panjim [Ph +91-9822488564] Price (in Goa only) Rs 295. Ask a friend to pick up a copy. Details of the book http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * *
Re: [Goanet] Does Goa need a mani pulite?
Cecil, In answer to your question... Does Goa need a mani pulite ? ..i can assure you that all the MLAs from the CM to the most recently elected one would vote against it or do all in their power to abort it.as most of them have corrupt dealings whether it is with illegal mining, suspicous land dealings with the Mumbai or Delhi based land developers or dealings with the drug mafia- police nexus ? Why do you think so many of them are so insistent that t the party in power give a ticket to their children to continue this golden goose milking of Goa ? - Original Message - From: Cecil Pinto cecilpi...@gmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Friday, July 23, 2010 12:17 PM Subject: [Goanet] Does Goa need a mani pulite? Mani pulite (Italian for clean hands) was a nationwide Italian judicial investigation into political corruption held in the 1990s. Mani pulite led to the demise of the so-called First Republic, resulting in the disappearance of many parties. Some politicians and industry leaders committed suicide after their crimes were exposed. The corruption system that was uncovered by these investigations was usually referred to as Tangentopoli, or bribeville. Read more at: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_pulite == * * * IS YOURS one of the stories of Goans on board the S.S. Dwarka, or at the Strait of Hormuz, Basra or Bahrain, Dubai, Swindon, Mombasa, Poona or Rangoon? Selma Carvalho's new book *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* docks at many other ports. Get your copy from Broadways, Panjim [9822488564] Rs 295. Pp extra. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/ * * * IS YOURS one of the stories of Goans on board the S.S. Dwarka, or at the Strait of Hormuz, Basra or Bahrain, Dubai, Swindon, Mombasa, Poona or Rangoon? Selma Carvalho's new book *Into the Diaspora Wilderness* docks at many other ports. Get your copy from Broadways, Panjim [9822488564] Rs 295. Pp extra. http://selmacarvalho.squarespace.com/
Re: [Goanet] Enchanting Goanet
Antonio, Honestly, with everybody texting one another over the air waves.even the regular Wren Martin type grammer that those old goan anglophiles tried to instill into us in our young days in Goa are going out of the window with the bath wateri sometimes wonder when the * mark has replaced the marks to report previously written comments. - Original Message - From: Antonio Menezes ac.mene...@gmail.com To: goanet goa...@goanet.org Sent: Tuesday, July 20, 2010 4:25 AM Subject: [Goanet] Enchanting Goanet Great work , Indians. We are all so proud of YOU.You Portuguese ?. No, American reject.Yes, Goa scamraj.*Is Portuguese = anti-Indian ?* *No, Portuguese is not anti-Indian. He is American-Indian. Didn't know that.*
Re: [Goanet] Expenses of Eduardo Faleiro
Mervyn, Regarding your comments on Mr. Eduardo Faleiro, I think you are being naive if you expect any concrete action on his part as NRI Commisioner to help overseas goans..our goan politicians ( like their counterparts from the Congress party under the petticoat of Sonia Gandhi in Delhi ) are very good in pontificating and prevaricariting while they enjoy the high-flying life as tabulated by Lionel Messias for as long as they can extract money from their mining cohorts to overlook the illegal activities of these concerns. All these bs can do is sell their mothers and goa to highest bidders from North India. - Original Message - From: Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca To: Goa's premiere mailing list, estb. 1994! goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Sunday, July 18, 2010 8:38 PM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Expenses of Eduardo Faleiro Frederick Noronha wrote: On 18 July 2010 10:24, Mervyn Lobo mervynal...@yahoo.ca wrote: The second issue, that of the current incumbent, is one that is really debatable. Every person I talk too tells me that Faleiro is arrogant. I got the same impression too when I met him. Hi Mervyn, Are you sure this doesn't have something to do with the his-friends-are-not-my-friends logic that sometimes (often?) strikes the discourse in Goa? FN FN, Fortunately, Faleiro is of as much interest to me as the Foreign Minister of Tanzania will be to you. I first heard of Faleiro on Goanet. Someone posted that he organized an International Goans Convention in Goa. At this convention, he threw out of the convention hall some of the delegates who had come from overseas. He then went on to arrest a local delegate. I found that interesting. The second time I heard of Faleiro was when the NRI office made a blunder in the description of awards being handed out. I wrote to the NRI office pointing out the blunder. Someone from the NRI office wrote back, using Falriro's email address, insisting that they could not be wrong. I have few, if any, friends who have heard of, let alone who are interested in Faleiro. The only time his name comes up is when I am with people who are a generation older than me and who still have links to Goa. They return from visits to Goa with horrible experiences in dealing with issues such as legal documents, property, etc. These people claim that neither Faleiro nor the NRI office are of any help. Mervyn Lobo
Re: [Goanet] Making mango jam
Could somebody on the forum let me have a recipe for making Mango Jam from mango pulp. Thank you !
Re: [Goanet] Remembering the Air India tragedy
Hi Eugene, I noted that in a recent letter of yours to GoaNet , you posed a critical view of how the monies earned by the director/ producer in Torontotiatrs appeared to escape rewarding the actors who spent long hours going to practices and rehearsing..you seemed to imply that the director/ producer team wasmaking a large amount off the work of the players. I noticed that Jr. Menezes in his rather long discourse explained that it cost a lot of money to film and produce some of the scenes that were projected onto the screens as part of the special effects as backdrops to some scenes. I just wondered if that explanation satisfied youor you felt it was a weak excuse ? Joe Lobo - Original Message - From: Eugene Correia gene_corr...@yahoo.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2010 9:51 AM Subject: [Goanet] Remembering a Goan victim Today, June 23, is the 25th anniversary of the Air India Flight 182 crash over Ireland, allegedly by Sikh extremists in Canada. There was one Goan from Canada who perished on the flight. He was Anthony Desa. Among the more than 100 victims, there is one R. D'Souza and, I think, his first name is Ronald. But he was possibly from the US who came to Toronto to take the connecting flight to India. Not sure if he was Goan. Just last week a five-volume inquiry report was released. The report blamed Canadian secret service agency and the Royal Mounted Canadian Police. The report said it was a Canadian tragedy and, hence, the PM issued an apology to the victims' families. Today he will take part in the commemoration ceremony in downtown Toronto that will include putting up a new memorial. The old one has damaged by culprints. Eugene
Re: [Goanet] the Education Minister
Can any of our readers enlighten me as to whether it was finally established that our Education Minister, Babush Monseratte cleared the SSC exams or only managed to pass the Standard 7 class at St. Theresa`s School in Mumbai ?
Re: [Goanet] wanted a female to share a 2-bedroom apt. with a single female in East York (Toronto )
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Re: [Goanet] FW: Nobel prize win 'humbles' Obama.
Oscar, While you and , perhaps many like you in their charitable way of thinking, will laud this first step to bringing medical assurance to the poorer and caught -in -the present economic times folk...a lot of the fat-cat medical insurance companies who have spent perhaps thousands of dollars on their lobbyists to stymie Mr. Obama`s efforts, will find a way to get around the eventual growing of this scheme of things in the future. The spirit of free enterprise and growth of corporate control of vital systems from defence to energy makes richer USA folk nervous of any project that has odour of a socialistic approach that may lead to the rich having to indirectly support the poor... and there is still a lot of that in America. I could be horribly wrong in my thinking and I hope some other netters will offer their opinions on the subject. - Original Message - From: Oscar Lobo oscarlo...@optusnet.com.au To: goa...@goanet.org Cc: bo...@goanet.org Sent: Monday, March 22, 2010 2:07 AM Subject: [Goanet] FW: Nobel prize win 'humbles' Obama. During the last quarter of 2009 I posted my views on the Noble Peace Award for President Obama and what encouragement does to bring out the best in people. Well, we have all heard today the great achievement i.e. America's Health Bill which was brought about by President Barrack Obama! Great news to the 32 odd million people in America who were without Health Insurance and kudos to President Obama and his administration. Oscar C. Lobo Melbourne. --- On Mon, 12/10/09, Oscar Lobo oscarlo...@optusnet.com.au wrote: From: Oscar Lobo oscarlo...@optusnet.com.au Subject: Re: [Goanet] Nobel prize win 'humbles' Obama. To: Goanet goa...@goanet.org Date: Monday, 12 October, 2009, 7:09 AM Noble Peace Award for President Obama. People are divided on the decision taken by the Norwegian Noble Prize Committee (NNPC) to award President Obama with a Noble Prize. While it may seem to be premature for some people many of us may have overlooked the fact that he is the first Black American President in the history of America. This in itself is an achievement as he has risen up from the down trodden community and he has commenced some good initiatives for the people of America. Instead of putting spanner in his good works it is better to put an Award to make him do some greater work being at the helm of his career. Encouragement brings out the best in people. Criticism brings out the worst. How many of us fall in each category! We Goans need to learn from all this. How many of our genuine Goans have contributed and continuing a great job in keeping our Goan culture and identity alive? We know a few Goans in Goa, Middle East, Canada, Spain etc; and what encouragement have we given to our Goans other than cheap shooting of e-mails and washing dirty linen in public? Do we know that Goanet is also read by non-Goans in India and elsewhere as there is no restriction to be a member of Goanet. Recently a south Indian said to me - Do you know Mr. Lobo why Goans are not progressing? I was curious and asked him why to which he replied Because your community is suffering from Tall Poppy syndrome (Aum shanoh in Konkani) and Jealousy (Nosai). Let us therefore wake up to these observations by non-Goans and if necessary apologise to our fellow Goenkars if you believe we have hurt people because of ego or perhaps miss judgement. The most important commandment from Jesus was Love one another as I have loved you This is precisely what is missing in us Goans and quicker we start loving our community the quicker we will stand to gain. Zeal without knowledge is like fire without light. Oscar C. Lobo Melbourne.
Re: [Goanet] Loot of Goan Artefacts
Dear Mr. Fernandes, If you have any idea about India after the `47 partition into West, East Pakistan and the republic of India which came into being in `48 ??..you will find that various states in the Indian Union have been borrowing resources.(..be it human or material) from one another in a give and take way of operating a nation. Do not various western nations now have ancient historical artifacts like the grecian marbles carted away from their colonial possessions during their times in those ward-countries ? - Original Message - From: Victor Rangel-Ribeiro vrangel...@yahoo.com To: estb. 1994!Goa's premiere mailing list goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, March 18, 2010 3:01 AM Subject: Re: [Goanet] Loot of Goan Artefacts Dear Ignatius, Which Governor's palace in Altinho? Regards, Victor --- On Wed, 3/17/10, ignatius fernandes iggy.fernan...@hotmail.co.uk wrote: From: ignatius fernandes iggy.fernan...@hotmail.co.uk Subject: [Goanet] Loot of Goan Artefacts To: goanet@lists.goanet.org goanet@lists.goanet.org Date: Wednesday, March 17, 2010, 4:09 PM Is there anyone who has made any inventory of the of the loss of Goan artefacts looted by the Delhi appointed Governors of Goa which graced the Governors palace in Altinho. Will my query stir up a hornets nest? Regards Ignatius Fernandes. _ Send us your Hotmail stories and be featured in our newsletter http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/195013117/direct/01/
Re: [Goanet] 9 killed in fire at Bangalore's Carlton Towers -dnaindia.com (WHERE ARE THE FIRE ALARMS, SPRINKLERS AND FIRE-EXTINGUISHING EQUIPMENT?)
--- *** Follow Goanet on Twitter *** http://twitter.com/goanet --- Ruby, In these summer months preceeding the monsoons.most folk on the west coast including Mumbai are lucky to get 2 hours of water in their systems to recharge their containers what chance is there for water to be in the fire hydrant system. Supposedly even the fire services vehicle that turned up at the Carlton towers in Bangalore with a 20 foot ladder ( to service a 9 storey building ? ) had no water with it. If you expect world class systems from any Indian city you must be kidding yourself. While India tells us of their shining example of economics , their standards in most people conveniences just does not exist. - Original Message - From: Ruby Goes rubyg...@bigpond.com To: goanet@lists.goanet.org Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2010 5:27 PM Subject: [Goanet] 9 killed in fire at Bangalore's Carlton Towers -dnaindia.com (WHERE ARE THE FIRE ALARMS,SPRINKLERS AND FIRE-EXTINGUISHING EQUIPMENT?) --- *** Follow Goanet on Twitter *** http://twitter.com/goanet --- http://www.dnaindia.com/bangalore/report_9-killed-in-fire-at-bangalore-s-car lton-towers_1351649 No Safety Standards then? rubygoes
Re: [Goanet] Goa politician booked in Russian rape case
--- *** Follow Goanet on Twitter *** http://twitter.com/goanet --- Recently a correspondent on this forum observed, on noticing a politician in UP being booked by the CBI of having wealth far disproportionate to his income, how many of of our goan politicians are equally from, appearances of the cars they drive and the grand villas they have built after entry into political life. just as guilty.. ...have escaped any such enquiries just goes to show the nexus of the Ant-corruption Bureau (if they operate)and the politicians themselves !! Just observe how long ( 2 months ) it took the Goa Police to finally charge a wanna-be- politician with rape...it was reported in the press that his accuser was pressured to drop any complaint as he was a powerful man who could cause her a lot of pain !! One wonders what our other goan politicians must be getting away with ? - Original Message - From: Mauricio Pereira mpqa...@hotmail.com To: goa...@goanet.org Sent: Saturday, February 20, 2010 8:00 PM Subject: [Goanet] Goa politician booked in Russian rape case --- *** Follow Goanet on Twitter *** http://twitter.com/goanet --- Goa politician booked in Russian rape case IANS, Feb 16, 2010, 07.21pm IST PANAJI: The crime branch on Tuesday formally charged Goa politician John Fernandes with raping and assaulting a 25-year-old Russian woman in December last year, police said. Deputy inspector general of police Ravindra Singh Yadav said the chargesheet was filed on Tuesday before a local judicial magistrate, but would be admitted to the sessions court Feb 23. FOrty-year-old Fernandes has been charged under sections 354 (assault or criminal force to woman with intent to outrage her modesty), 509 (word, gesture or act intended to insult the modesty of a woman), 376 (punishment for rape) and 201 (causing disappearance of evidence of offence) of the Indian Penal Code (IPC), Yadav said. John Fernandes is presently in judicial custody. The alleged rape of the 25-year-old Russian woman on Dec 2 by Fernandes at Colva, a popular resort village in south Goa 35 km from here, had hit national spotlight, with the girl alleging that the police not only harassed her by not allowing her to register the complaint but they also ensured that the accused avoided arrest. Echoes of the Russian's rape were even heard in parliament when Goa's lone Rajya Sabha MP Shantaram Naik (Congress) blamed the foreign national for hanging out with strangers till late in the night. Even chief minister Digambar Kamat and public works department minister Churchill Alemao had publicly blamed the victim for hanging out in the public areas till late in night after the complaint was filed. Fernandes had contested the last assembly polls on a regional party ticket and came close to toppling Goa tourism minister Mickky Pachecho in the contest for the Benaulim seat. The Russian consulate had to intervene and serve a stern rejoinder to the state government to investigate the rape case in earnest. Goa attracts nearly two million tourists annually - almost twice its population - and 4.5 lakh of the tourists are foreign nationals. http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/goa/Goa-politician-booked-in-Russian-rape-case-/articleshow/5580911.cms
Re: [Goanet] hetem
Silviano , What is aHetem ?? armstrong augusto vaz wrote: Hello Joe if you are in Salcete and if you are going to velim specifically Carxetta on the left hand side as you enter Carxetta from margao side i saw a Hetem tied up to a chain, in front of a house with no compound wall. i did not carry my camera along with me, that was in mid Sept but some locals whom i visited told me that the Hetem menace have been pestering them for some two years. Some villagers told me that they were earlier found inthe hillocks of Baradi and Velim but now have found a new home in Carxetta. animal actvisits would cry foul over the caging and tying up of the Hetem but you feel the plight of the women folk from Carxetta Velim who have been traumatized by the Hetem encounters.
Re: [Goanet] the Israeli eviction of Arabs from their age-old homes in East Jerusalem
* G * O * A * N * E * T *** C * L * A * S * S * I * F * I * E * D * S * Sangath, www.sangath.com, is looking to build a centre for services, training and research and seeks to buy approx 1500 to 2000 sq mtrs land betweeen Mapusa and Bambolim and surrounding rural areas. Please contact: contac...@sangath.com or yvo...@sangath.com or ph+91-9881499458 http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-July/180028.html For those of our Goans who do not care about happenings beyond their villages..they may be reminded that the Israelis who have ,like the Russians , with the help of Goan politicians have established a toehold in land holdings , in Goa. Strange as it may sound..there may come a day when they will , with the help of our corrupt goan politicians be evicting goans from their ancestral agricultural land. One must remember that the Israeli State was born with massive theft of land from Arab Palestenians ( ...why else would refugee camps suddenly have been born with the birth of the new jewish State ?).and the theft continues till today with the assent of the E.U. and the USA. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8180413.stm
Re: [Goanet] Comment about Bom Jesus Basilica among 7 wonders of Portuguese origin
Sapna, As a goan who has spent more time outside Goa, I personally feel that this historical quest of yours is an attempt to stir up events that happened a good 400 years ago or so. which will engender communal discord between the Hindu and Christian communities. Sapna Shahani wrote: As a non-Goan who's lived here on and off for 20 years, I'm very curious about Goa's history with the Inquisition. How is it that the gory history of Goa's past remains virtually unknown by outsiders or tourists? The Basilica of Bom Jesus is a beautiful building but I find it odd that visitors don't know what cruelties once took place in the vicinity of the Basilica. Would love to hear the thoughts of people on this list... Best, Sapna.
Re: [Goanet] Digambar Kamat and inaugurations!
Who knows what he chargesunder the table for these appearance? As most goans knowmost of our cabinet ministers are as corrupt as theirDelhi brethren ! Naguesh Bhatcar wrote: I read The Navhind Times and Herald online, daily. I also visit the Goacom website. Not a single day goes by when I don't see either Digambar Kamat's picture or a report that he was at this inauguration or that. I just don't understand as to when and how he governs Goa! I guess that he is so firmly in the saddle that he has Goa on cruise control! Perhaps only thing that counts are the blessings of Sonia Gandhi. Is Goa that easy to govern? I think he has to also add a portfolio 'Minister for Inaugurations and Rewards' to his list. Naguesh Naguesh Bhatcar sgbhat...@hotmail.com
Re: [Goanet] Is it not better to be slave!
Dear Mr. Barve, Sameer Kelekar seemed to miss the point that I was making...that in about 48 years of joining the Indian Union many of our state civil servants, minor bureaucrats, mamlatdars, panchayat officials and some politicians seem to have learnt well from our Delhi masters the practice of extorting bribes with a standard operating attitude of Bribe me handsomely or I shall stymie your efforts to access services to which you are entitled and frustrate your getting anywhere whether it is a driving licence, attestation of a birth certificate or other documents leading to establishing your title to ancestral/ family property. W.r.t. to Sammeer`s comment that democracy is not meant for the faint of heart I detcect a laissez-faire attitude of accepting bribery and corruption as the cost of democracy. Why is it that in western countries applicants for services like driving licences do not have to grease a gov. clerk`s palm to proceed with an application and it should be considered acceptable in Goa ? SHRIKANT BARVE wrote: If you want it easy, it is better to be a slave. Sameer Kelekar http://lists.goanet.org/pipermail/goanet-goanet.org/2009-May/177825.html Are we inclined to be slave? or Is it better to be slave with no expectations except MOKSHA! Shrikant Vinayak Barve Cricket on your mind? Visit the ultimate cricket website. Enter http://beta.cricket.yahoo.com
Re: [Goanet] What evidence ?
Gabriel and Samir, I happened to be watching last night on the Overseas Service of BBC- TV an enlightening segment on Iraq where a BBC TV correspondent was getting the views of average middle class educated Iraquis on the state of their nation ,about 8 years after the much revered USA president Mr. G.W. Bush decided that he must have regime change then and introduced the old concept ofdemocracy . Speaking to a female university lecturer who said ... Mr. Bush may have had great zeal in bringing us his western -style democracy..but he brought us more pain andsuffering. Under Mr Saddam , our former president who we knew was a military dictator..the poor people had had enough to eat andlow level of medical care. Now under the patronage and occupation of the all-powerful USA we have hungry poor and the introduction of corruption among our own Iraqui officials in the Homeand Defence ministries who charge the common people enormous bribe money to effect a simple transaction that was speedily done and bribe-free in Saddam`s regime. If a young man wants to join the army or the police, forexample , he has to be prepared to pay an entry bribe to concerned officials of the equivalent of $ 500 (US). Now , one may ask me what the above has to do with Goa ? Visiting Goa in November 2005 , I was assured by old residents around Mapusa and Candolim that if a suitably qualified University graduate wanted to join the Goa State Police service in the officer cadre he hadbe prepared to pay a bribe to the relevant recruiting officers of the minimum of 2 lakh rupees. Naturally, on appointment to a suitable post he worked towards recouping hisentry fee by extorting from citizens or the constables under him. Would any police officer at high position in Goadeny this happens ? The I-G of Goa State police will , of course , feign ignorance of the situation or any complicity in such dealings .but one wonders on hearingof such standard operating procedures how endemic the corruption that has crept in from India since 1961 has become in Goa. whether it is under the patronage of the Congress govt.who kow-tow the Party High command in Delhior the more innovative goans in Goawho find a quick way to make a buck. Samir Kelekar wrote: Gabriel writes: How many cases of deaths have not been closed as ‘suicidal’ or ‘accidental’ in the annals of Goa’s police records? Given what is happening today in Goa with Mahanand confessing to 9 murders, indeed every case of accident and/or suicide in all Goan police stations in the last 20 years has to be thoroughly looked at again. Who knows --- they could all be murders and the lazy Goan police just shut the cases down saying it is an accident or suicide. regards, Samir
Re: [Goanet] Freida Pinto pics
Roland This Freida Pinnto is not goan she is Mangalorean So why are we we goans expected to to getso excited about her why don`t you post this on the mangalorean net or whatever they have for informational purposes ! Roland Francis wrote: 7 good pics from News of the World - UK http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/showbiz/article188135.ece?slideshowPopup=truearticleId=188135initialArticleId=188135 --- Roland Francis http://roland-torontogoan.blogspot.com +1 (416) 453.3371
Re: [Goanet] WALL COLLAPSES: 3 killed, 4 injured in Bicholim Industrial estate
Samir, I do not know if you saw one of the pictures in the Goa Herald of today, 18th February of a couple of firemen and another helper moving one of the injured. It struck me that the Goa fire-brigade men or their medics have never heard of a spine board to move the injury victim. If that man sustained internal injuriesthey would damage him still further with the way they were holding him. It seems that Goa still lingers in the third world ...primitive in handling injured folk. samir umarye wrote:
Re: [Goanet] the pyramid structure in religous societies.
While many may argue that the Roman Catholic clergy is a pyramid -like stucture with the Pope at the top, descending downwards through the Cardinals, Archbishops, Bishops...and thence to the Parish priests...and priests... at least this religion attests to the equality of men women before God ( the laiety) regardless of of their class in real life. I have yet to hear a similar decleration of any any Hindu leader ( Sankarachaya ...or similar leader)..I suspect that this is due to the pyramidical structure among the Hindu followers that observes a strict caste system that relegates many tribals and lower classes to the least desired jobs ( read scavengers of human and and animal waste ) and hence a way to bar them from the temples that the higher castes attend. I`m sure that if we asked the VHP/ RSS about this the would be a silence as equality is not what Hinduism is about ?
Re: [Goanet] the creeping culture of corruption in Goa.
When I read about reports on GoaNet about the average amount, in rupees, that Lamanis who operate illegaly on the tourist coastal belt in North Goa ( Calangute, Candolim and Baga ) have to pay the police , and the absence of any tourist police ( obviously once they have been paid off ) I cease to wonderhow much we Goans have imbibed the Indian standard operatingprocedure of hafta to to the police station , and carry on as usual. If Goans have any memory when the NDTV station conducted an interview on Baga beach with the locals and Scarlett Kealing`s mother, after her killing, an English woman tourist asserted that that she regularly saw the police on the beachside extract money from the illegal traders, the goan police officer at that TV interview seem unpreturbed by the accusation. I guess that our goan police officers beleive that like the rest of India it ishafta gheand business as usual ! You can bet if I could cc this message to the IG of Goa State police I would never get a response .
Re: [Goanet] In the lighter vein: Rape of Goa at Grace Church hall
Dear Tony Martin, I seem to notice that many goans who write in to GoaNet do not seem to realise thatloose and lose are two English words that have entirely different meanings and cannot be used interchangeably. Hence we have statements like : with the high rates of migrants arriving in Goa we shall loose our identity from correspondents who write perfectly grammatical English otherwise. - Original Message - From: Anthony M Barreto [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 01, 2008 1:48 PM Subject: [Goanet] In the lighter vein: Rape of Goa at Grace Church hall Goanet is read by thousands of readers. It is very irritating to read messages written in horrible English, particularly, by someone like Mr. Barad who is supposed to be an author of several books and a doctor. Check this: --on account of which I organized Rape of Goa at Grace Church hall in Margao through --one of the NGO. --On the day both were peaceful and calm and literary busy educating Goans --Goa is getting wiped out from the Scenic beauty. --I am more then convinced that GBA did not leave to the expectation --instead of saving Goa, the members saved themselves! --I had also written article in Goan local news media lauding on this issue. --will push Goa to finish. ** Tony Martin English Teacher, Freelance Writer and Author Dubai, UAE Cell: 050-1460524 *
Re: [Goanet] Foreigners buying a house in Goa
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Mario
What about Goans with foreign nationalities and foreign passports
? ...they are still goans at heart !
I thought , a couple of years , ago the Centre in Delhi was mooting
the idea of a card called Person of Indian Origin (PIO)
which would give them similar rights to the OCI you mention. Many foreign
nations allow one to have dual nationalities.
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Date: Sat, 17 May 2008 07:44:13 +0530
From: Ana Maria de souza-Goswami
What about Goans who have foreign nationalities? They
are also buying flats/houses in Goa. There are
foreigners who are given one year visa at a time and
have bought flats.
Mario suggests:
Those Goans who have foreign nationalities should
apply for the Overseas Citizen of India
[OCI]classification which would give them the same
financial rights in India as Non Resident Indians, as
well as limitless stays in India.
No more applying for visas, no more restrictions on
how long you can stay in India.
The only rights an OCI is denied is voting in Indian
elections and owning farmland in India.
