Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
That plus the ease of seeing everything on one screen without having to scroll back and forth was great. Interesting that you can see 80 characters in the 72 positions the ISPF editor has to display the data ;-) LRECL=72 would be the better choice, then. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
For writing purpose, I prefer 80 bytes record, whatever is FB or VM. For program writing TSO commands to a file, a prefer 255 bytes. This way I don't have to cut it into a 80 bytes pieces. I don;t think a 255 bytes record is well readable. ITschak On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:24 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: That plus the ease of seeing everything on one screen without having to scroll back and forth was great. Interesting that you can see 80 characters in the 72 positions the ISPF editor has to display the data ;-) LRECL=72 would be the better choice, then. -- Peter Hunkeler Credit Suisse -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
I prefer VB255 for ease of editing - especially with modern 3270 emulators that support big-x-big geometry. I'm shooting from the hip here as I don't have access to a machine at the moment, but I've only ever been bitten by the RECFM=VB plus ISPF editor combo once. In the mid 1990's I created a RECFM VB data file with Rexx, then edited it with ISPF editor and found to my astonishment that if a record was exactly 8 bytes long it was saved with a blank appended - making it 9 bytes long! Not good for a data file! (that particular data file anyway). Not sure if that feature is still lurking - I vaguely recall it had something to do with not upsetting the PL/I or COBOL compiler which sometimes expected sequence numbers in cols 1 to 8. Cheers, Andrew -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Friday 11 September 2009 02:28, Ted MacNEIL wrote: o Industry standard? Not any more. (But I can remember when ISPF (at the time SPF) panels were distributed as VB; IBM later switched to FB (circa 1980?). Later, IIRC. I think it came out with XA. Also, that was the same time they renamed it and split out PDF. In 1980, the SPF FDP which was 5787-XT2 (Structured Programming Facility) became the SPF product 5668-009 (System Productivity Facility), installed under SMP, which does not support a PDS with RECFM=VB. The vast majority of CLIST/REXX libraries are defined with FB/80. Before you define one with VB/255, remember that you can NOT concatenate it with existing FB/80 libraries. Of course, it would be nice if concatenated CLIST/REXX libraries could be FB and VB, but I'm not sure IBM will make it possible in the future. Most of my products use the GETSEQ/GETDIR/GETMBR run-time routines which allow the concatenation of sequential and partitioned data sets with different DCB attributes. If I do it, IBM could do it also. -- Gilbert Saint-Flour GSF Software http://gsf-soft.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands
* FA - Find All occurrences of a word. I did a similar thing using a Macro with Vista tn3270 If I press ALT-ENTER, the word under the Cursor is searched with a FIND xxx ALL command. If I press CTRL-ENTER, the Word under the cursor is searched on column 8 (-- so I put the cursor on a PERFORM X00-FOO-BA, press CTRL-ENTER and the editor jumps to the X00-FOO-BA paragraph... I really don't wanna miss one of them But ok, not native for ISPF because it is a 3270-Emulation macro. Bye, Michael -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Edward Jaffe pisze: [...] IBM SCRT does not support ISV products. Period. Why? SCRT is based on two records: a) CPU utilization (SMF72 afaik) b) products launched (SMF89) Record 72 reporting does not require any change - so ISV would know what the 4HRA was on each LPAR. There is still no report about LPARs where the product was used. ISV has the following possibilities: 1. Simply trust customer and rely on customers declaration 2. Change the product to write their own SMF89 (or rather add a section to it). 3. Change the product to create custom SMF record and create own reporting tool. The tool may analyze SMF72 as well otherwise two reports will be sent to ISV: SCRT for utilization information and ISV-SCRT for product information. 4. Tie the product to given LPAR name. This is what some vendors already do. Not only CPC serial is checked, but also LPAR id or LPAR name. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
I thought it was Type 70 rather than Type 72. (70 is CPU, 72 is Workload.) Being in IBM Software Group I suppose I ought to pay more attention to software pricing. :-) Martin Martin Packer Performance Consultant IBM United Kingdom Ltd +44-20-8832-5167 +44-7802-245-584 email: martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com Twitter ID: MartinPacker They're figuring out that collaboration isn't a productivity hit, it makes them smarter. Sam Palmisano on BlogCentral, 26 November 2008 Unless stated otherwise above: IBM United Kingdom Limited - Registered in England and Wales with number 741598. Registered office: PO Box 41, North Harbour, Portsmouth, Hampshire PO6 3AU -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Martin Packer pisze: I thought it was Type 70 rather than Type 72. (70 is CPU, 72 is Workload.) Being in IBM Software Group I suppose I ought to pay more attention to software pricing. :-) Yes, it is SMF70. I haven't checked before writing. However it is irrelevant for the main topic. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
FTP error checking and recovery
How reliable is FTP across the internet ? I have a large number of DFDSS dumps to move to the IBM Remote Development Facility and the most convenient way is via FTP. Can I be confident that if the FTP completes without error then the DFDSS dump file will get there completely intact and without errors. Or should I look for alternate methods of delivery such as copying the dumps to DVD. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch
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Re: FTP error checking and recovery
Jim FTP uses TCP so it's the reliability of TCP that matters here. Of what underlying facilities happen to consist is very probably of no relevance. Thus, assuming the underlying facilities are inherently *less* reliable that the reliability offered by TCP, you get the same level of reliability whether you are passing data within your local infranet or over the Internet. So, if you consider TCP offers sufficient reliability, you don't need to go looking for another technique for moving your dumps. I suspect that, for dumps, TCP is quite adequate. Chris Mason On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:42:05 +0100, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: How reliable is FTP across the internet ? I have a large number of DFDSS dumps to move to the IBM Remote Development Facility and the most convenient way is via FTP. Can I be confident that if the FTP completes without error then the DFDSS dump file will get there completely intact and without errors. Or should I look for alternate methods of delivery such as copying the dumps to DVD. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
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Re: FTP error checking and recovery
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.netwrote: Jim FTP uses TCP so it's the reliability of TCP that matters here. Of what underlying facilities happen to consist is very probably of no relevance. Thus, assuming the underlying facilities are inherently *less* reliable that the reliability offered by TCP, you get the same level of reliability whether you are passing data within your local infranet or over the Internet. So, if you consider TCP offers sufficient reliability, you don't need to go looking for another technique for moving your dumps. I suspect that, for dumps, TCP is quite adequate. Chris Mason Chris, thanks, that's good to hear. However I've just tried to FTP my first dump which was approx 1.4 GB and it failed about one third the way through with - Netout : Connection reset by peer 451 Transfer aborted due to receive error which doesn't bode well. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sending email via rexx
Mark
I want to send an attachment in an email using REXX.
Could you please send me the rexx code if you have one?
TIA
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Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:38 PM
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Subject: Re: Sending email via rexx
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:19:57 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone know how to send a email via a rexx routine? Also, are
there
any good LISTSERV specifically for rexx?
TIA
To start with the 2nd question: TSO-REXX. Subscribe at
lists...@vm.marist.edu
IBM's SMTPNOTE sample is in REXX. It lives in hlq.SEZAINST(SMTPNOTE)
.
XMITIP is probably REXX, isn't it?
For a very simple sample, how about this:
/* REXX */
parse arg recpt msg
smtp.1 = 'HELO' MVSVAR('SYSNAME')
smtp.2 = 'MAIL FROM:mzel...@zeldenconsulting.com'
smtp.3 = 'RCPT TO:'recpt''
smtp.4 = 'DATA'
smtp.5 = 'FROM:Mark Zelden mzel...@zeldenconsulting.com'
smtp.6 = 'TO:' recpt
smtp.7 = 'Subject: SMTPREXX Email Message'
smtp.8 = msg
/* smtp.9 = 'QUIT'*/
ALLOC F(SMTPOUT) SYSOUT(B) WRITER(SMTP)
if RC 0 then do
say 'Error allocating SYSOUT for SMTP WRITER'
exit 12
end
EXECIO * DISKW SMTPOUT (STEM SMTP. FINIS
if RC 0 then do
say 'Error writing SYSOUT for SMTP WRITER'
FREE F(SMTPOUT)
Exit 12
End
FREE F(SMTPOUT)
Calling the exec and passing parms left as an exercise to the reader.
Mark
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
...
A large part of XMITIP is written in REXX (some features like pdf
generation, etc. call assembler-based code under the covers). This
means you can simply CALL XMITIP from another REXX program with the
same parameters (and optional file allocations) as you would in batch
XMITIP invocations. There is also an ISPF dialog interface to XMITIP,
but we rarely use it. XMITIP is a freebie available via
http://www.lbdsoftware.com/tcpip.html and is well documented.
XMITIP, like the simple sample below, produces SYSOUT to the JES queues,
and both presume you have the JES-based SMTP server configured and
running to pull and process that SYSOUT. Whether the SYSOUT class is
B or some other class depends on how that server is configured (we use
a numeric class 3 to keep Email clutter away from the classes
Operators care about). The simplest SMTP server set up is to have it
forward email to a corporate email server on another platform. That
relegates any firewall and undeliverable email issues to the corporate
email server, where they have presumably already been solved.
For simple Email, the direct generation of the Email SYSOUT can be done
as in Mark's example, but if you want to do anything at all fancy I
would recommend using XMITIP and letting it deal with all the petty
syntax and semantics details. XMITIP does at least require a TSO
environment (batch or interactive), so there may be some places (like
Netview automation) where it can't be used.
Usage of these techniques for any mass corporate emailing needs to be
approached with care to avoid exhausting your JES resources and causing
serious problems. For the few batch processes we have that do this, we
have written a REXX front end to XMITIP which will process a batch of
messages from a file, but come up for air every several hundred messages
and use the SDSF API to verify there is no shortage of JES resources
before allowing the process to continue.
J C Ewing
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Re: FTP error checking and recovery
Jim Being reliable includes giving up - and saying so - when slings and arrows intervene. Perhaps I picked up the wrong emphasis from your original post. I took it to be a concern over FTP rather than a concern over the Internet. As you have demonstrated to yourself, the Internet - as they say these days - has reliability issues! At some point, TCP will give up retrying to compensate for the unreliability of the underlying TCP connection path. Chris Mason On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:26:20 +0100, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason chrisma...@belgacom.netwrote: Jim FTP uses TCP so it's the reliability of TCP that matters here. Of what underlying facilities happen to consist is very probably of no relevance. Thus, assuming the underlying facilities are inherently *less* reliable that the reliability offered by TCP, you get the same level of reliability whether you are passing data within your local infranet or over the Internet. So, if you consider TCP offers sufficient reliability, you don't need to go looking for another technique for moving your dumps. I suspect that, for dumps, TCP is quite adequate. Chris Mason Chris, thanks, that's good to hear. However I've just tried to FTP my first dump which was approx 1.4 GB and it failed about one third the way through with - Netout : Connection reset by peer 451 Transfer aborted due to receive error which doesn't bode well. Jim McAlpine -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sending email via rexx
As was indicated, the REXX code is in XMITIP: XMITIP is a freebie available for download from http://www.lbdsoftware.com/tcpip.html and is well documented. Bob -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Umamaheshwar Iyer Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 6:20 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sending email via rexx Mark I want to send an attachment in an email using REXX. Could you please send me the rexx code if you have one? TIA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
I don't understand why the vendors are populating the libraries in PDSE If any of the features of Program Objects are required, then PDSEs are mandatory, i.e., Program Objects cannot reside in PDSs. I suspect the majority of vendors use PDSs unless their code requires PDSEs. Bob Shannon Rocket Software -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: file integrity verified - do I care?
In 4aa0113f.6f0f.008...@efirstbank.com, on 09/03/2009 at 06:55 PM, Frank Swarbrick frank.swarbr...@efirstbank.com said: Certain classes of I-O status values indicate fatal exception conditions. These are: any that begin with the digit 3 or 4, and any that begin with the digit 9 that the implementor defines as fatal. That seems to say that IBM complied. So in this case IBM has chosen to make status '97' not only not fatal, but in fact absolutely successful. I am unable to determine of the standard actually allows a '9' error to be considered successful, or if it should only be a non-fatal or fatal error. Does the standard define successful? Does it distinguish between successful and non-fatal? Anyway, the point(!) to all of this is I would like to make a requirement to IBM Enterprise Cobol to have an option to no longer set a file status of 97 when this occurs, but rather to set the file status to 00. That sounds reasonable. So since 97 doesn't seem to be useful What it seems to you may not be what it seems to others. It certainly seems useful to me. Yes, I realize we should simply change the programs to conform to the IBM compiler. But my feeling is that it's the status 97 that does not conform to the Cobol standard, That's reasonable only if you misquoted the text from the standard earlier in your message; the current behavior certainly conforms to what you quoted. Any thoughts? Go through channels to endorse the Share requirement. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: file integrity verified - do I care?
In 85ce438477b040f1aa47a93d19a78...@wmk, on 09/04/2009 at 04:43 PM, Bill Klein wmkl...@ix.netcom.com said: (Obviously, run-time would have the advantage of no recompile required while compile-time would have the advantage of NOT impacting existing programs - without an explicit selection of the feature). A run-time option would not impact existing programs either. IMHO, the preferred solution would be to have an installation default, a compile time option *and* a run-time option to override the compile-time option. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: $HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF BUFX - 0% UTILIZATION REACHED
In ofb9c56f43.4d9b77ed-on8825762b.00632f70-8825762b.00643...@ea.epson.com, on 09/08/2009 at 11:13 AM, John Mattson john_matt...@ea.epson.com said: This reminds me of my bank (USAA) which I cannot get to stop sending me reminders that my credit card payment of $0.00 is due. Send them a check for $.01 and see whether you can trigger another bug. Or check whether you can convince any national newspaper to run a humorous article on them. I am not quite sure WHY JES2, zOS 1.08, puts out this message, Open a PMR; even if there is a legitimate reason, the message is broken. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Binder API...broke or working as designed
In 2mkk959rl49egrm7msh5j009tv6lou4...@4ax.com, on 08/30/2009 at 01:22 PM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com said: Such as? Anything without a PPT entry, for starters. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: 33 Years In IT/Security/Audit
In 152801ca2b15$d0622140$712663...@co.uk, on 09/01/2009 at 11:06 AM, Doc Farmer docfarmer9...@yahoo.co.uk said: Man, do I feel OLD!!! Old? My first computer[1] used a drum for main storage and vacuum tubes for logic; there are people on this list who go back further than me. [1] It was an IBM 650; nostalgia is not an option. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CA-VIEW (SARBCH)
In 6cd8dd927eba514e9db1e36304be38d7117ad...@hou-mail.kbm1.loc, on 09/09/2009 at 07:39 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbm1.com said: AFAIK, CALL cannot be used from TSO for APF authorized execution, You've been able to do that since Old Man Noach cornered the market in gopher wood. What did you think that the AUTHPGM list was for? because the TSO CALL command is not authorized. The TSO CALL command is handled by the TMP. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Catering for ESLs (was Re: ist663i suppression)
In 45d79eacefba9b428e3d400e924d36b902724...@iwdubcormsg007.sci.local, on 08/31/2009 at 03:06 PM, Thompson, Steve steve_thomp...@stercomm.com said: My wife speaks German. I speak a very small bite of German (not correct but a literal for how I would say I speak a little German in Deutsch). She attempted to say something for me at my level and realized that she had used the wrong form of to hear. I thought she was telling me that what I heard belonged here. In context, it kinda made sense (I can hear a certain poster in Germany having a very good laugh right about now). A native Anglophone speaking Hebrew can trip over idioms in an amusing fashion, e.g., asking how to get to the bathroom when you meant to ask about a shared taxicab. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP error checking and recovery
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Jim McAlpine How reliable is FTP across the internet ? I have a large number of DFDSS dumps to move to the IBM Remote Development Facility and the most convenient way is via FTP. Can I be confident that if the FTP completes without error then the DFDSS dump file will get there completely intact and without errors. Or should I look for alternate methods of delivery such as copying the dumps to DVD. How reliable is the Internet itself? The only FTP problem we've ever experienced, where a file received was NOT identical to the file sent, was (finally) traced to a defective switch. At random, bytes were trans-positioned within a block such that the checksum for the block remained unchanged. That was a real head-scratcher. If the files you need to move are sufficiently important to you, do both. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands
Paul, I like the sounds of these - would you be free to post/send the source for these commands? Don On Thu, Sep 10, 2009 at 5:53 PM, Beesley, Paul paul.bees...@atosorigin.comwrote: A few more to add .. NA, NC, NJ, NR, NP - convert line to a comment ( Assembler/Cobol/JCL/Rexx/PL1 ) - as per Roscoe equivalents JJ - Join JCL lines, removing the // from the front JS - Split a JCL line at the cursor, inserting a // and spaces to line it up / - scroll this line to the top ( cos I kept thinking I was in CMS edit ... ) Regards Paul -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of George.William Sent: 10 September 2009 22:35 To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: User-written ISPF-Editor line commands Ya, guess it is. Actuall TJ is different from TF. TF - Text Flow will 'flow' the indicated line and all subsequent lines below it till the end of the paragraph. TJ - Text Join, joins the indicated line and ONLY THE ONE LINE BELOW IT and will not 'flow' to a 2nd line if the data is longer than the BNDS (bounds). Useful to join two lines of code when using TF would create havoc with your code. -Original Message- ___ Atos Origin and Atos Consulting are trading names used by the Atos Origin group. The following trading entities are registered in England and Wales: Atos Origin IT Services UK Limited (registered number 01245534) and Atos Consulting Limited (registered number 04312380). The registered office for each is at 4 Triton Square, Regents Place, London, NW1 3HG.The VAT No. for each is: GB232327983 This e-mail and the documents attached are confidential and intended solely for the addressee, and may contain confidential or privileged information. If you receive this e-mail in error, you are not authorised to copy, disclose, use or retain it. Please notify the sender immediately and delete this email from your systems. As emails may be intercepted, amended or lost, they are not secure. Atos Origin therefore can accept no liability for any errors or their content. Although Atos Origin endeavours to maintain a virus-free network, we do not warrant that this transmission is virus-free and can accept no liability for any damages resulting from any virus transmitted. The risks are deemed to be accepted by everyone who communicates with Atos Origin by email. ___ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: Synchronizing TOD between mainframe and other platforms
There's one very good reason to get file 501: it comes with ets1, a pc program that will connect with your 9037 via RS232, and act as an ETS. This will let you syncronize your mainframe time with anything the pc can be synced with. Regards Frank Brüchmann Scott Rowe wrote: z/OS has had it's own time server for quite some time now, no need to use the CBT version. Angel-Luis Dominguez angel_luis_dominguez_mar...@yahoo.es 8/20/2009 1:06 AM Have a look at FILE 501 from CBT. It is a very simple and effective way to sync every machine, even PC's obtaining directly time from mainframe. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP error checking and recovery
Jim, How reliable is FTP across the internet ? I have a large number of DFDSS dumps to move to the IBM Remote Development Facility and the most convenient way is via FTP. Can I be confident that if the FTP completes without error then the DFDSS dump file will get there completely intact and without errors. Or should I look for alternate methods of delivery such as copying the dumps to DVD. I always had problems sending DSS dumps via ftp unless I tersed it. DSS expects a short block at the beginning of the file and my ftp, especially to a non-mainframe server always seemed to cause the resulting file to be reblocked. The result was DSS would state it was not a valid backup. It seems to me that you could use struct=r or something like that if you were ftp'ing from a z/os directly to another z/os. As for the Internet, you get what you get. There are ftp clients capable of restarting the ftp at the point in the file where it failed. That would allow you to avoid resending data that has already been received. Good luck, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Dynamic Cache Management
GSG, I was reading the Implementing System-Managed Storage book and came accross Using Cache to improve performance, were it spoke about Dynamic Cache Magagement. Is there still a benefit in implementing this? PROS/CONS. Is anyone using this? Got any general guidelines for starting out? I never bothered with DCM(E) since all data written to/read from modern dasd subsystems went though cache anyway. It is very complex sometimes trying to figure out why allocations are occurring against certain volumes and not others. DCM(E) just added another complicating factor that did not seem to have any significant benefit in performance. Your mileage may vary. Regards, John -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: $HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF BUFX - 0% UTILIZATION REACHED
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) on 09/08/2009 at 11:13 AM, John Mattson said: This reminds me of my bank (USAA) which I cannot get to stop sending me reminders that my credit card payment of $0.00 is due. Send them a check for $.01 and see whether you can trigger another bug. Or check whether you can convince any national newspaper to run a humorous article on them. Did that once: In response to a FINAL NOTICE that my balance of $0.00 was PAST DUE and that collection proceedings would commence if payment was not received by a specified date, I sent them a check for $0.00. A few days later, got a phone call from an account manager, the gist of which was Are you trying to be funny or something? -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:53:27 +, Jan Vanbrabant wrote: Hi Ed, Sam, Skip, Pls would you like to make available your (usually --- always :-) ) bit bucket pitch of the Denver SHARE? It's not (yet) available on the proceedings disk. Bit bucket x'25' from Austin and bit bucket x'26' from Denver are both available on the share web site. -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:53:27 +, Jan Vanbrabant jan.vanbrab...@telenet.be wrote: Hi Ed, Sam, Skip, Pls would you like to make available your (usually --- always :-) ) bit bucket pitch of the Denver SHARE? It's not (yet) available on the proceedings disk. thanks on beforehand, jan It's out on the SHARE web site. http://www.share.org. Since Denver is the current proceedings, you don't have to be registered either AFAIK. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
I'll be glad to share the JCL, the EXEC, as well once I get it to work. Still unable to get the tape to go from step to step. Here is JCL from step 1 to step 2. //DISKZ DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0033 //TAPEZ DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0033(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=TAPE92, // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=REF=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002,LABEL=(35,SL,EXPDT=99000) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //* End of Step //DuMP2 EXEC PGM=FDR,REGION=8M //DISK1 DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0034 //TAPE1 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0034(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=TAPE92, // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // LABEL=(36,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=REF=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002 This is the latest iteration which just dies off the jump. I'm sure it has to do with the fact I'm using GDGs with (+1). When I was using a refer back to DUMP1, TAPE1 and RETAIN it was dropping the tape after step one and dying. As I said, I'm happy to share any of this and should have made an update. Mea Culpa! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
Did you try the one step version with multiple dumps that I sent you. Tim -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu]on Behalf Of Daniel McLaughlin Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 9:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Use of RETAIN I'll be glad to share the JCL, the EXEC, as well once I get it to work. Still unable to get the tape to go from step to step. Here is JCL from step 1 to step 2. //DISKZ DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0033 //TAPEZ DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0033(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=TAPE92, // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // VOL=REF=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002,LABEL=(35,SL,EXPDT=99000) //SYSIN DD DSN=PROD.PARMLIB(DR100),DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSPRIN1 DD SYSOUT=* //SYSDUMP DD SYSOUT=* //ABRMAP DD SYSOUT=* //* End of Step //DuMP2 EXEC PGM=FDR,REGION=8M //DISK1 DD UNIT=3390,DISP=SHR,VOL=SER=DB0034 //TAPE1 DD DSN=PDR.TSTBKP.DB0034(+1), // DISP=(NEW,CATLG,DELETE),UNIT=TAPE92, // DCB=(IPOBAK.PATTERN.DSCB,BUFNO=10), // LABEL=(36,SL,EXPDT=99000), // VOL=REF=PDR.TSTBKP.AIG002 This is the latest iteration which just dies off the jump. I'm sure it has to do with the fact I'm using GDGs with (+1). When I was using a refer back to DUMP1, TAPE1 and RETAIN it was dropping the tape after step one and dying. As I said, I'm happy to share any of this and should have made an update. Mea Culpa! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sending email via rexx
It was already suggested to have a look at XMITIP if you want to do
something that wasn't basic. Although I haven't looked at it, it does
something
like the JCL example below within the code. This sample sends my IPLINFO
as an attachment and it is taken from a PDS member:
//S1 EXEC PGM=IEBGENER
//SYSIN DD DUMMY
//SYSPRINTDD SYSOUT=*
//SYSUT2 DD SYSOUT=B,DEST=SMTP
//SYSUT1 DD DATA,DLM=##
helo MYJESNOD
mail from:zeld...@myjesnod
rcpt to: mark.zel...@zurichna.com
data
From: Mark Zelden zeld...@myjesnod
Subject: Test Email With Attachment
To: Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-type: multipart/mixed; boundary=qwerty1234
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
--qwerty1234
This is a test email sent from z/OS with an attachment.
--qwerty1234
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
Content-Description: iplinfo REXX exec
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=iplinfo.txt
##
// DD DISP=SHR,DSN=MY.REXX.LIB(IPLINFO)
--qwerty1234--
.
Quit
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com
z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/
Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 15:49:43 +0530, Umamaheshwar Iyer
ui0037...@techmahindra.com wrote:
Mark
I want to send an attachment in an email using REXX.
Could you please send me the rexx code if you have one?
TIA
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
Behalf Of Joel C. Ewing
Sent: Wednesday, July 29, 2009 6:38 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: Sending email via rexx
Mark Zelden wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2009 13:19:57 -0500, gsg gsg_...@yahoo.com wrote:
Does anyone know how to send a email via a rexx routine? Also, are
there
any good LISTSERV specifically for rexx?
TIA
To start with the 2nd question: TSO-REXX. Subscribe at
lists...@vm.marist.edu
IBM's SMTPNOTE sample is in REXX. It lives in hlq.SEZAINST(SMTPNOTE)
.
XMITIP is probably REXX, isn't it?
For a very simple sample, how about this:
/* REXX */
parse arg recpt msg
smtp.1 = 'HELO' MVSVAR('SYSNAME')
smtp.2 = 'MAIL FROM:mzel...@zeldenconsulting.com'
smtp.3 = 'RCPT TO:'recpt''
smtp.4 = 'DATA'
smtp.5 = 'FROM:Mark Zelden mzel...@zeldenconsulting.com'
smtp.6 = 'TO:' recpt
smtp.7 = 'Subject: SMTPREXX Email Message'
smtp.8 = msg
/* smtp.9 = 'QUIT'*/
ALLOC F(SMTPOUT) SYSOUT(B) WRITER(SMTP)
if RC 0 then do
say 'Error allocating SYSOUT for SMTP WRITER'
exit 12
end
EXECIO * DISKW SMTPOUT (STEM SMTP. FINIS
if RC 0 then do
say 'Error writing SYSOUT for SMTP WRITER'
FREE F(SMTPOUT)
Exit 12
End
FREE F(SMTPOUT)
Calling the exec and passing parms left as an exercise to the reader.
Mark
--
Mark Zelden
Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead
Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO
...
A large part of XMITIP is written in REXX (some features like pdf
generation, etc. call assembler-based code under the covers). This
means you can simply CALL XMITIP from another REXX program with the
same parameters (and optional file allocations) as you would in batch
XMITIP invocations. There is also an ISPF dialog interface to XMITIP,
but we rarely use it. XMITIP is a freebie available via
http://www.lbdsoftware.com/tcpip.html and is well documented.
XMITIP, like the simple sample below, produces SYSOUT to the JES queues,
and both presume you have the JES-based SMTP server configured and
running to pull and process that SYSOUT. Whether the SYSOUT class is
B or some other class depends on how that server is configured (we use
a numeric class 3 to keep Email clutter away from the classes
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:44:40 +0200, Gilbert Saint-Flour wrote: In 1980, the SPF FDP which was 5787-XT2 (Structured Programming Facility) became the SPF product 5668-009 (System Productivity Facility), installed under SMP, which does not support a PDS with RECFM=VB. AFAIK, there was always at least partial suppord for PDS with RECFM=VB. They could always be delivered in SYSMODs in relative file format, but not in inline elements. Nowadays, with GIMDTS, there is no such restriction. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: file integrity verified - do I care?
On 11 Sep 2009 04:50:03 -0700, shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net (Shmuel Metz , Seymour J.) wrote: So since 97 doesn't seem to be useful What it seems to you may not be what it seems to others. It certainly seems useful to me. So how do you use it? What do you do differently when you get a 97 than when you get a 00? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP error checking and recovery
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:42:05 +0100, Jim McAlpine wrote: How reliable is FTP across the internet ? ... (That's how it is most commonly used.) How reliable is FTP across the internet ? I have a large number of DFDSS dumps to move to the IBM Remote Development Facility and the most convenient way is via FTP. Can I be confident that if the FTP completes without error then the DFDSS dump file will get there completely intact and without errors. Or should I look for alternate methods of delivery such as copying the dumps to DVD. With either technique, you will probably need to protect the record structure with an envlope. IBM usually recommends AMATERSE. Do TERSE envelopes use any sort checksum for verification? You will need to investigate: o Does the RDF provide support for data on DVD? o Does the RDF provide support for verifying checksums? The base z/OS provides the POSIX cksum(1), and ICSF supports SHA-1, perhaps others, and MD5 is widely available as source in an RFC and as executables for various platforms. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: $HASP050 JES2 RESOURCE SHORTAGE OF BUFX - 0% UTILIZATION REACHED
On 11 Sep 2009 05:13:20 -0700, jch...@ussco.com (Chase, John) wrote: Did that once: In response to a FINAL NOTICE that my balance of $0.00 was PAST DUE and that collection proceedings would commence if payment was not received by a specified date, I sent them a check for $0.00. A few days later, got a phone call from an account manager, the gist of which was Are you trying to be funny or something? I got a letter back when I tried this. But it was about 4 decades ago. I also once wrote a check out using mills, when the calculation indicated I should do so, and there were no instructions on how to round. It may be legal tender, but they couldn't handle it. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
RES: Sytem Managed Buffering
In the past we were a heavy user of SMB, just in batch, and there were no easy way of determinig if it was really working as expected. In your tests pay attention to the ACB to be opened. If it specifies DIR and SEQ in ACB/RPL (or ACCESS MODE IS DYNAMIC - Cobol), you will have to specify the desired approach in JCL (AMP='ACCBIAS=xx') or ask the developer to change the code. The indicators are elapsed time that drops dramatically and a huge increase in storage. I think CICS will not used it. Atenciosamente / Regards / Saludos Ituriel do Nascimento Neto Banco Bradesco S/A 4254 - DPCD Engenharia de Software Sistemas Operacionais Mainframes Tel: 55 11 4197-2021 R: 22021 Fax: 55 11 4197-2814 |-Mensagem original- |De: IBM Mainframe Discussion List |[mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] Em nome de gsg |Enviada em: quinta-feira, 10 de setembro de 2009 19:45 |Para: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu |Assunto: Re: Sytem Managed Buffering | |We are looking at implementing SMB and I'm wondering how do |you know if SMB is kicking in for a dataset? Is there a |message stating SMB is active for this dataset? | |Also, is there any problems with SMB and datasets that are |used by CICS. I think most of our CICS online files utilize |LSR, does SMB ignore these datasets? Is there anything we |need to be concerned with regarding SMB and CICS files? | |TIA | | | |-- |For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access |instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the |message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at |http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html | HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRAVISO LEGAL brEsta mensagem é destinada exclusivamente para a(s) pessoa(s) a quem é dirigida, podendo conter informação confidencial e/ou legalmente privilegiada. Se você não for destinatário desta mensagem, desde já fica notificado de abster-se a divulgar, copiar, distribuir, examinar ou, de qualquer forma, utilizar a informação contida nesta mensagem, por ser ilegal. Caso você tenha recebido esta mensagem por engano, pedimos que nos retorne este E-Mail, promovendo, desde logo, a eliminação do seu conteúdo em sua base de dados, registros ou sistema de controle. Fica desprovida de eficácia e validade a mensagem que contiver vÃnculos obrigacionais, expedida por quem não detenha poderes de representação. HTMLfont face=Tahoma size=1HRLEGAL ADVICE brThis message is exclusively destined for the people to whom it is directed, and it can bear private and/or legally exceptional information. If you are not addressee of this message, since now you are advised to not release, copy, distribute, check or, otherwise, use the information contained in this message, because it is illegal. If you received this message by mistake, we ask you to return this email, making possible, as soon as possible, the elimination of its contents of your database, registrations or controls system. The message that bears any mandatory links, issued by someone who has no representation powers, shall be null or void. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP error checking and recovery
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:26:20 +0100, Jim McAlpine wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason wrote: FTP uses TCP so it's the reliability of TCP that matters here. Of what underlying facilities happen to consist is very probably of no relevance. Thus, Chris, thanks, that's good to hear. However I've just tried to FTP my first dump which was approx 1.4 GB and it failed about one third the way through with - Netout : Connection reset by peer 451 Transfer aborted due to receive error which doesn't bode well. In days of yore, transmitting binary files (SMP/E sysmods) from desktop systems to MVS FTP servers, I have observed massive unreported failures such as dropouts of entire 8KiByte blocks. I don't know whether z/OS is better nowadays. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Catering for ESLs (was Re: ist663i suppression)
On 31 Aug 2009 12:08:10 -0700, steve_thomp...@stercomm.com (Thompson, Steve) wrote: She attempted to say something for me at my level and realized that she had used the wrong form of to hear. Speaking of which, even in English, there seems to be significant disagreement about the correct spelling/meaning of the expression Hear here. I suspect in this case, people assume long enough that what they think it means becomes what it means.For instance, I would say the primary definition of begging the question is no longer the original logicicians' definition. I wonder what mainframe and legacy mean to the CIO of most companies. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
EGL Café | Community: EGL Community Edition Hub
I don't know if anybody is interested, but there is a community version of EGL available for free. http://www-949.ibm.com/software/rational/cafe/community/egl/ce John McKown Systems Engineer IV IT Administrative Services Group HealthMarkets® 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-961-6183 cell john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original message. HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
TOP SECRET to IBM-RACF migration --- trace setup between Datacom/DB (CA) RACF
*** cross-posted in RACF-L *** Hi, We are migrating TOP SECRET to RACF. But we’ve a problem with the CA_Datacom (database) interface to RACF. The definitions have been setup as described in the Datacom Security guide, but the external interface to RACF doesn’t get active. We would like now to set up a RACF security trace uitvoeren to find out which RACROUTE commands are exchanged from (generated by) Datacom towards RACF. I suppose this has to be done via a GTF-trace? Afterwards that trace will have to interpreted. Via IPCS, I assume? Can you put us on orbit in setting up the GTF trace it’s analysis with IPCS? At your knowledge, by chance some reading material available somewhere? Thanks on beforehand, jan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:32:59 +0300, Itschak Mugzach wrote: For writing purpose, I prefer 80 bytes record, whatever is FB or VM. For program writing TSO commands to a file, a prefer 255 bytes. This way I don't have to cut it into a 80 bytes pieces. And SYSIN data sets are no longer restricted to FB80. I employ this facility in jobs submitted either via FTP or with an Edit macro that submits jobs with the attributes of the file being edited rather than forcing them to FB 80 as the SUBmit command does. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SDSF Display Active Server Indicator
snip I've sent an ETR to IBM but since I don't have Q A support they are trying to get me to pay for clarification of their documentation. unsnip I find it hard to believe that someone else has difficulty finding ANYTHING in the SDSF documentation. That's the only document that I've found that won't respond to the 'Reader Comment/Suggestion'. The SDSF folks really believe that the manual is 'adequate'. Jack Kelly 202-502-2390 (Office) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Skickat: den 11 september 2009 01:42 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats On Thu, 10 Sep 2009 15:44:12 -0500, Rick Fochtman wrote: I'm involved in a discussion (read argument) with co-workers where I'm currently doing a consulting gig. Which is more effieient for CLIST/REXX libraries? the choices are RECFM=FB, LRECL=255 or RECFM=FB,LRECL=80? I lean toward the VB-format, btt I have at least one person here insisting that FB/80 is a Industry standard and is absolutely mandatory. The libraries are NOT LLA/VLF managed. Opinions and/or criticisms, please. o First, silicon is cheaper than carbon. The criterion for more efficient should consider the cost of human resources, before computer resources. SNIP Somewhat OT: I have the experience that VB files (lrecl1000 at least) have *much* worse prestanda than FB files in the ISPF editor. Anyone with the same or other experience ? (Is that because of bad coding by IBM or what ?) Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch
Yep Mark, it's uploaded now! thanks, Jan - Oorspronkelijk bericht - Van : Mark Zelden [mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com] Verzonden : vrijdag , september 11, 2009 03:15 PM Aan : IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Onderwerp : Re: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 08:53:27 +, Jan Vanbrabant jan.vanbrab...@telenet.be wrote: Hi Ed, Sam, Skip, Pls would you like to make available your (usually --- always :-) ) bit bucket pitch of the Denver SHARE? It's not (yet) available on the proceedings disk. thanks on beforehand, jan It's out on the SHARE web site. http://www.share.org. Since Denver is the current proceedings, you don't have to be registered either AFAIK. Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch
All Eighteen Years of the Bit Bucket! Here http://tinyurl.com/kltw89 http://www.share.org/Volunteers/ProgramsandProjects/MVSProgram/MVSArchiv es/tabid/309/Default.aspx Best Regards, Sam Knutson, GEICO System z HW/SW/Automation Team Leader mailto:sknut...@geico.com (office) 301.986.3574 (cell) 301.996.1318 Think big, act bold, start simple, grow fast... -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jan Vanbrabant Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 4:53 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: your session 2817: Bit Bucket x '25' pitch Hi Ed, Sam, Skip, Pls would you like to make available your (usually --- always :-) ) bit bucket pitch of the Denver SHARE? It's not (yet) available on the proceedings disk. thanks on beforehand, jan This email/fax message is for the sole use of the intended recipient(s) and may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized review, use, disclosure or distribution of this email/fax is prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please destroy all paper and electronic copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Thomas Berg thomas.b...@swedbank.se wrote: SNIP Somewhat OT: I have the experience that VB files (lrecl1000 at least) have *much* worse prestanda than FB files in the ISPF editor. Anyone with the same or other experience ? prestanda is Swedish for performance (to save the rest of you from having to look it up!) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
There is a different link off of www.neon.com home page -Original Message- Thompson, Steve Seems that Eloqua is Firefox unfriendly, so this link can only be read from a computer system running Windows and IE. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Opinions expressed by this poster may not reflect those of poster's employer -- -Original Message- Ken Porowski I guess IBM's letter generated some FUD http://now.eloqua.com/e/es.aspx?s=3D1331e=3D328elq=3Dafd32854d7c047509 a= 3a5e1 65b96bd5a -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 02:36:21 -0500, Andrew Armstrong wrote: edited it with ISPF editor and found to my astonishment that if a record was exactly 8 bytes long it was saved with a blank appended - making it 9 bytes long! Not good for a data file! (that particular data file anyway). Not sure if that feature is still lurking - I vaguely recall it had something to do with not upsetting the PL/I or COBOL compiler which sometimes expected sequence numbers in cols 1 to 8. It's apparently fixed in z/OS 1.7. Yy! I can't imagine that PL/I's or COBOL's expectation of sequence numbers is somehow assisted by adding a blank in col. 9. I can only imagine that some product had a defect that was triggered only by records with a data length of 8 (Subtract 13 from length, then EX MVC?), and that it was circumvented by changing the editor rather than by fixing the problem where it lay. Shamefully irresponsible; I suppose such an engineering decision was most plausible if the offender was ISPF itself. And ISPF Copy (3.3) no longer trims trailing blanks. Yy again! -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:35:48 -0400, P S wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: SNIP Somewhat OT: I have the experience that VB files (lrecl1000 at least) have *much* worse prestanda than FB files in the ISPF editor. Anyone with the same or other experience ? prestanda is Swedish for performance (to save the rest of you from having to look it up!) Is this comparing RECFM=VB to RECFM=FB with equivalent data length? I have long believed that this is because ISPF (and XEDIT) really don't understand variable length records; rather they pad each record with blanks on input to the maximum length; proceed as for FB; then strip trailing blanks on SAVE. Further evidence: it's surprisingly easy to overflow available REGION with a fairly small (on DASD) RECFM=VB file with only one very long record and many short records. --gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: FTP error checking and recovery
FWIW, SSH protocol 2 includes MAC (message authentication code) checking (as well as compression and encryption). SSH/SFTP is therefore verified, compressed, and encrypted automatically. Kirk Wolf Dovetailed Technologies http://dovetail.com On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 8:44 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.comwrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:26:20 +0100, Jim McAlpine wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 9:56 AM, Chris Mason wrote: FTP uses TCP so it's the reliability of TCP that matters here. Of what underlying facilities happen to consist is very probably of no relevance. Thus, Chris, thanks, that's good to hear. However I've just tried to FTP my first dump which was approx 1.4 GB and it failed about one third the way through with - Netout : Connection reset by peer 451 Transfer aborted due to receive error which doesn't bode well. In days of yore, transmitting binary files (SMP/E sysmods) from desktop systems to MVS FTP servers, I have observed massive unreported failures such as dropouts of entire 8KiByte blocks. I don't know whether z/OS is better nowadays. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Kelman, Tom wrote: A vendor could write SMF Type 89 records that record something other than MSUs. IBM actually does this with their Check Processing Control System (CPCS) and imaging software. Those products write Type 89 records that record the number of items processed. I have to run those Type 89 records through a special program near the end of the year and send reports to IBM to determine the charges for the products for the next year based on the number of items processed. The upshot is that any vendor could have its software write TYPE 89 records with any kind of costing metric recorded in them, and then have a program to process that and report on it. SMF 70 records have the information needed to compute peak monthly R4HA. SMF89 is used by SCRT only to keep track of when a product was active, to know whether the associated R4HA CPU samples should be considered, when calculating the peak monthly R4HA. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: SV: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
Thomas Berg wrote: [snip] This makes it somewhat unusable when You want/need to work fast. Which I normally do. Yeah, that's the word on the street. At least from the ladies. :-) -- Kind regards, -Steve Comstock The Trainer's Friend, Inc. 303-393-8716 http://www.trainersfriend.com z/OS Application development made easier * Our classes include + How things work + Programming examples with realistic applications + Starter / skeleton code + Complete working programs + Useful utilities and subroutines + Tips and techniques == Ask about being added to our opt-in list: == == * Early announcement of new courses == == * Early announcement of new techincal papers == == * Early announcement of new promotions == -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:01:02 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: In our shop we use SMS to assign default data classes that specify Data Set Name Type . . . . . : LIBRARY. So, if you think you're allocating a PDS in batch, it's really a PDSE unless you specify DSNTYPE=PDS to explicitly override this behavior. One of our small monoplex LPARs (absorbed via consolidation) has their default set to DSNTYPE(LIBRARY) in IGDSMSxx.This applies to everything, SMS assigned or not. So even ISPF data sets that are not recommended to be PDSE are (but I've never seen a problem because of it). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
Bob Shannon wrote: I don't understand why the vendors are populating the libraries in PDSE If any of the features of Program Objects are required, then PDSEs are mandatory, i.e., Program Objects cannot reside in PDSs. I suspect the majority of vendors use PDSs unless their code requires PDSEs. So far, we still deliver all of our software in PDS-eligible format. (No program objects yet.) I have seen some customers allocate PDSE for our libraries. Though not necessary from a program perspective, it might be because they like the performance and features offered by PDSE. In our shop we use SMS to assign default data classes that specify Data Set Name Type . . . . . : LIBRARY. So, if you think you're allocating a PDS in batch, it's really a PDSE unless you specify DSNTYPE=PDS to explicitly override this behavior. That could be true in those customer sites as well. Our batch jobs that allocate target libraries as part of product installation do not specify DSNTYPE at all... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Vendors also use these reports to validate the size of the LPAR that products run in. It would be nice if IBM would allow non-IBM products to participate in the SCRT. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 SYSN 10:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors R.S. wrote: Edward Jaffe pisze: [...] IBM SCRT does not support ISV products. Period. Why? SCRT is based on two records: a) CPU utilization (SMF72 afaik) b) products launched (SMF89) [I know you mean SMF 70.] The above is only partially true. SCRT has a hard-coded list of supported products inside. (Browse the module under ISPF to find their names.) These are the only products for which SCRT reporting is possible. If you don't believe me, try writing your own program that uses the IFA macros to generate SMF89 records and see what you see on SCRT. Hint: you will see NOTHING. SCRT reports the monthly peak R4HA for each of the supported IBM products only. If the ISV and customer agree that the ISV product is tied to one of the supported IBM products, everywhere it runs, then the SCRT report *can* be used by the ISV to verify the customer's entitled capacity has not been exceeded. (See IBM's IPLA contracts for how this works.) If the ISV product is not tied to any supported IBM product or runs in a subset of LPARs, there are no applicable fields on the (normal) SCRT report that can be used to do this verification. It is possible for the customer to run SCRT again, using the SMF records from the subset of LPARs in which the ISV product is licensed, to get a peak monthly R4HA for that subset of LPARs. With this approach, the customer must agree that the ISV product is assumed to be running 24x7 and, therefore, tied to z/OS itself. SMF89, which is used by SCRT to know when a product is actively being used, is useless in this and all other scenarios when considering products that are not listed in SCRT's hard-coded internal list of products. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
Eric Bielefeld wrote: Thanks for the posting. I signed up. Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like: Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the zPrime product? If not then why not? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Use of RETAIN
I'm sure it has to do with the fact I'm using GDGs with (+1). When I was using a refer back to DUMP1, TAPE1 and RETAIN it was dropping the tape after step one and dying. GDG's are funny in the way relative generations work. The catalogue is not fully updated until after the job finished. So, if you are creating two generations in the same job, the second one has to be '(+2)'. '(+1)', even in a later step refers to the original 'new' generation. This continues with subsequent generations within the same job. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
Mark Zelden wrote: One of our small monoplex LPARs (absorbed via consolidation) has their default set to DSNTYPE(LIBRARY) in IGDSMSxx.This applies to everything, SMS assigned or not. So even ISPF data sets that are not recommended to be PDSE are (but I've never seen a problem because of it). I forgot. We have that too... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
R.S. wrote: Edward Jaffe pisze: [...] IBM SCRT does not support ISV products. Period. Why? SCRT is based on two records: a) CPU utilization (SMF72 afaik) b) products launched (SMF89) [I know you mean SMF 70.] The above is only partially true. SCRT has a hard-coded list of supported products inside. (Browse the module under ISPF to find their names.) These are the only products for which SCRT reporting is possible. If you don't believe me, try writing your own program that uses the IFA macros to generate SMF89 records and see what you see on SCRT. Hint: you will see NOTHING. SCRT reports the monthly peak R4HA for each of the supported IBM products only. If the ISV and customer agree that the ISV product is tied to one of the supported IBM products, everywhere it runs, then the SCRT report *can* be used by the ISV to verify the customer's entitled capacity has not been exceeded. (See IBM's IPLA contracts for how this works.) If the ISV product is not tied to any supported IBM product or runs in a subset of LPARs, there are no applicable fields on the (normal) SCRT report that can be used to do this verification. It is possible for the customer to run SCRT again, using the SMF records from the subset of LPARs in which the ISV product is licensed, to get a peak monthly R4HA for that subset of LPARs. With this approach, the customer must agree that the ISV product is assumed to be running 24x7 and, therefore, tied to z/OS itself. SMF89, which is used by SCRT to know when a product is actively being used, is useless in this and all other scenarios when considering products that are not listed in SCRT's hard-coded internal list of products. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
SV: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
-Ursprungligt meddelande- Från: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Skickat: den 11 september 2009 17:24 Till: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Ämne: Re: SV: CLIST/REXX Library Formats On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 10:35:48 -0400, P S wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 10:19 AM, Thomas Berg wrote: SNIP Somewhat OT: I have the experience that VB files (lrecl1000 at least) have *much* worse prestanda than FB files in the ISPF editor. Anyone with the same or other experience ? prestanda is Swedish for performance (to save the rest of you from having to look it up!) Is this comparing RECFM=VB to RECFM=FB with equivalent data length? I have long believed that this is because ISPF (and XEDIT) really don't understand variable length records; rather they pad each record with blanks on input to the maximum length; proceed as for FB; then strip trailing blanks on SAVE. Further evidence: it's surprisingly easy to overflow available REGION with a fairly small (on DASD) RECFM=VB file with only one very long record and many short records. (Sorry for mixing in swedish, I'm somewhat tired today.) If You with data length mean actual, existing data, not the LRECL of the dataset; then Yes. I'm using VB 32756/32760 as a way to catch all needs. When I then have 1000 rows in an existing member (this is a PDSE), it take someting like 3 seconds to repeat a row. (Line command R.) Then length of the data in a row is max 80 bytes. This makes it somewhat unusable when You want/need to work fast. Which I normally do. Regards, Thomas Berg __ Thomas Berg Specialist IT-U SWEDBANK -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
A vendor could write SMF Type 89 records that record something other than MSUs. IBM actually does this with their Check Processing Control System (CPCS) and imaging software. Those products write Type 89 records that record the number of items processed. I have to run those Type 89 records through a special program near the end of the year and send reports to IBM to determine the charges for the products for the next year based on the number of items processed. The upshot is that any vendor could have its software write TYPE 89 records with any kind of costing metric recorded in them, and then have a program to process that and report on it. Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 Why? SCRT is based on two records: a) CPU utilization (SMF72 afaik) b) products launched (SMF89) Record 72 reporting does not require any change - so ISV would know what the 4HRA was on each LPAR. There is still no report about LPARs where the product was used. ISV has the following possibilities: 1. Simply trust customer and rely on customers declaration 2. Change the product to write their own SMF89 (or rather add a section to it). 3. Change the product to create custom SMF record and create own reporting tool. The tool may analyze SMF72 as well otherwise two reports will be sent to ISV: SCRT for utilization information and ISV-SCRT for product information. 4. Tie the product to given LPAR name. This is what some vendors already do. Not only CPC serial is checked, but also LPAR id or LPAR name. -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
I know this isn't actually a mainframe topic, but it is computer related and kind of funny. I'm just glad I'm not a performance analyst for Telkom. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090910/od_nm/us_safrica_pigeon Tom Kelman Enterprise Capacity Planner Commerce Bank of Kansas City (816) 760-7632 * If you wish to communicate securely with Commerce Bank and its affiliates, you must log into your account under Online Services at http://www.commercebank.com or use the Commerce Bank Secure Email Message Center at https://securemail.commercebank.com NOTICE: This electronic mail message and any attached files are confidential. The information is exclusively for the use of the individual or entity intended as the recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, any use, copying, printing, reviewing, retention, disclosure, distribution or forwarding of the message or any attached file is not authorized and is strictly prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail message in error, please advise the sender by reply electronic mail immediately and permanently delete the original transmission, any attachments and any copies of this message from your computer system. * -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
CICS BWO is not an option
Hello all, I am looking for a product that would allow us to copy a VSAM dataset both ksds and esds to another file and copy all the records in the file while the file is still open to CICS. I have looked at the CICS BWO option and I don't think it's a good fit for us. There are too many items to be installed and in place in order to support BWO. Any help will be appreciated. Thanks in advance. == This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
Edward Jaffe pisze: [...] [I know you mean SMF 70.] The above is only partially true. SCRT has a hard-coded list of supported products inside. (Browse the module under ISPF to find their names.) These are the only products for which SCRT reporting is possible. If you don't believe me, try writing your own program that uses the IFA macros to generate SMF89 records and see what you see on SCRT. Hint: you will see NOTHING. I stand corrected. That's stupid IMHO. [rhetorical] Why SCRT does not rely on SMF89 content? SCRT reports the monthly peak R4HA for each of the supported IBM products only. If the ISV and customer agree that the ISV product is tied to one of the supported IBM products, everywhere it runs, then the SCRT report *can* be used by the ISV to verify the customer's entitled capacity has not been exceeded. (See IBM's IPLA contracts for how this works.) If the ISV product is not tied to any supported IBM product or runs in a subset of LPARs, there are no applicable fields on the (normal) SCRT report that can be used to do this verification. It is possible for the customer to run SCRT again, using the SMF records from the subset of LPARs in which the ISV product is licensed, to get a peak monthly R4HA for that subset of LPARs. With this approach, the customer must agree that the ISV product is assumed to be running 24x7 and, therefore, tied to z/OS itself. SMF89, which is used by SCRT to know when a product is actively being used, is useless in this and all other scenarios when considering products that are not listed in SCRT's hard-coded internal list of products. Well. I thought the rules are slightly different: it is enough to run some product ONCE during reporting period (month) to pay for that. More precisely: if you run ABC product on LPAR1 (only) and LPAR1 highest usage is nnn MSU then you pay for product ABC as it would consume nnn MSU on that LPAR. And it doesn't matter that you ran the product only once, 3 days before the peak occured. (This is what I heard from IBMer, however I consider him as an oracle. ) BTW: other ways are still valid despite of SMF89 impossibilities. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- BRE Bank SA ul. Senatorska 18 00-950 Warszawa www.brebank.pl Sd Rejonowy dla m. st. Warszawy XII Wydzia Gospodarczy Krajowego Rejestru Sdowego, nr rejestru przedsibiorców KRS 025237 NIP: 526-021-50-88 Wedug stanu na dzie 01.01.2009 r. kapita zakadowy BRE Banku SA (w caoci wpacony) wynosi 118.763.528 zotych. W zwizku z realizacj warunkowego podwyszenia kapitau zakadowego, na podstawie uchway XXI WZ z dnia 16 marca 2008r., oraz uchway XVI NWZ z dnia 27 padziernika 2008r., moe ulec podwyszeniu do kwoty 123.763.528 z. Akcje w podwyszonym kapitale zakadowym BRE Banku SA bd w caoci opacone. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
R.S. wrote: Well. I thought the rules are slightly different: it is enough to run some product ONCE during reporting period (month) to pay for that. More precisely: if you run ABC product on LPAR1 (only) and LPAR1 highest usage is nnn MSU then you pay for product ABC as it would consume nnn MSU on that LPAR. And it doesn't matter that you ran the product only once, 3 days before the peak occured. (This is what I heard from IBMer, however I consider him as an oracle. ) You could very well be right about this. (And, you probably are. I looked just now and could find nothing to contradict your statement.) In any case, it doesn't change my basic point that SCRT supports only IBM products--no matter if it recognizes their presence on an LPAR from SMF Type 89 records or via customer specification through the NO89 DD statement. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
P S wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: And, airfare from Japan to the U.S. isn't free... ? Not trying to be confrontational, but what does that have to do with it? Cost/benefit analysis... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 5:31 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: And, airfare from Japan to the U.S. isn't free... ? Not trying to be confrontational, but what does that have to do with it? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 19:38:21 +0200, Thomas Berg wrote: -Ursprungligt meddelande- [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] För Paul Gilmartin Is this comparing RECFM=VB to RECFM=FB with equivalent data length? I have long believed that this is because ISPF (and XEDIT) really don't understand variable length records; rather they pad each record with blanks on input to the maximum length; proceed as for FB; then strip trailing blanks on SAVE. Further evidence: it's surprisingly easy to overflow available REGION with a fairly small (on DASD) RECFM=VB file with only one very long record and many short records. If You with data length mean actual, existing data, not the LRECL of the dataset; then Yes. I'm using VB 32756/32760 as a way to catch all needs. When I then have 1000 rows in an existing member (this is a PDSE), it take someting like 3 seconds to repeat a row. (Line command R.) Then length of the data in a row is max 80 bytes. Indeed, I failed to write what I meant, length in the DCB. Your observation supports my surmise that ISPF (like XEDIT) pads all records to that length. This makes it somewhat unusable when You want/need to work fast. Which I normally do. This ought to be a topic for a performance APAR. You likely would get no better than SUG. -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: I know this isn't actually a mainframe topic, but it is computer related and kind of funny. I'm just glad I'm not a performance analyst for Telkom. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090910/od_nm/us_safrica_pigeon Cute, but not so dramatic. In 2001, I was doing a gig, and one of the things they asked about was transferring a 100TB disk array from Japan to the US. They were thinking of renting a 1GB line, but that was pretty expensive. I did a quick calculation and pointed out that if they could shut it down, unship it, get it on a plane, fly it to the US, and plug it back in over a 24-hour period, that was about the same throughput… (Of course, if the plane went down, they were out of business!) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
P S wrote: Cute, but not so dramatic. In 2001, I was doing a gig, and one of the things they asked about was transferring a 100TB disk array from Japan to the US. They were thinking of renting a 1GB line, but that was pretty expensive. I did a quick calculation and pointed out that if they could shut it down, unship it, get it on a plane, fly it to the US, and plug it back in over a 24-hour period, that was about the same throughput… (Of course, if the plane went down, they were out of business!) And, airfare from Japan to the U.S. isn't free... -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats
There is always some historical reason that IBM would create a library with the FB/80 attribute. Gilbert is right i remember this also and we had problems when trying to concatenate a VB/255 Clist library. So most folks stuck with FB/80... Scott J Ford www.identityforge.com 'old dinosaurs still roam the earth..' From: Gilbert Saint-Flour usenet5...@yahoo.com To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 3:44:40 AM Subject: Re: CLIST/REXX Library Formats On Friday 11 September 2009 02:28, Ted MacNEIL wrote: o Industry standard? Not any more. (But I can remember when ISPF (at the time SPF) panels were distributed as VB; IBM later switched to FB (circa 1980?). Later, IIRC. I think it came out with XA. Also, that was the same time they renamed it and split out PDF. In 1980, the SPF FDP which was 5787-XT2 (Structured Programming Facility) became the SPF product 5668-009 (System Productivity Facility), installed under SMP, which does not support a PDS with RECFM=VB. The vast majority of CLIST/REXX libraries are defined with FB/80. Before you define one with VB/255, remember that you can NOT concatenate it with existing FB/80 libraries. Of course, it would be nice if concatenated CLIST/REXX libraries could be FB and VB, but I'm not sure IBM will make it possible in the future. Most of my products use the GETSEQ/GETDIR/GETMBR run-time routines which allow the concatenation of sequential and partitioned data sets with different DCB attributes. If I do it, IBM could do it also. -- Gilbert Saint-Flour GSF Software http://gsf-soft.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar
A slightly loaded, but I think a very appropriate, question. In my opinion, if you cannot get that in writing, along with a pre-funded liability insurance policy specifically for your account for the duration of your contract to use Z/Prime, then I would walk away. The reason I say pre-funded is because here in Texas a common occurrence is someone gets automobile insurance and pays for the first month and then lets the policy lapse. In this case, I would assume that Neon would be good to keep up the payments, but if IBM gets on their high horse and wipes Neon out, then where are you? As with most things in life, it is up to the user to determine the risk/reward balance and make their own choices. The preceding is my personal opinion and does not reflect those of my employer or anyone else. Chris Blaicher Phone: 512-340-6154 Mobile: 512-627-3803 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Edward Jaffe Sent: Friday, September 11, 2009 12:32 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: NEON zPrime Business, Legal and Technical Facts Webinar Eric Bielefeld wrote: Thanks for the posting. I signed up. Looks like they'll have their attorney present. If I could attend the webinar, I would probably ask him something simple like: Will Neon agree to indemnify and hold buyer harmless from all monetary claims made by IBM that are directly attributable to the excess exploitation of Specialty Engines made possible by buyer's usage of the zPrime product? If not then why not? -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century Blvd, Suite 800 Los Angeles, CA 90045 310-338-0400 x318 edja...@phoenixsoftware.com http://www.phoenixsoftware.com/ -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
Everyone might be interested to know that there are some IMS datasets (I forget which) that *cannot* be PDSE. They must be PDS. Trust me, I tried them as PDSE and spend a long time trying to figure out why I couldn't get things working! :-) So to make life easy on yourselves if you have IMS I wouldn't even think about converting any to PDSE. (I think it was the ACBLIB, and maybe also the DBDLIB and PSBLIB. Probably the actual load libs are OK, but why chance it?) On 9/11/2009 at 10:17 AM, in message listserv%20090917406313.0...@bama.ua.edu, Mark Zelden mark.zel...@zurichna.com wrote: On Fri, 11 Sep 2009 09:01:02 -0700, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: In our shop we use SMS to assign default data classes that specify Data Set Name Type . . . . . : LIBRARY. So, if you think you're allocating a PDS in batch, it's really a PDSE unless you specify DSNTYPE=PDS to explicitly override this behavior. One of our small monoplex LPARs (absorbed via consolidation) has their default set to DSNTYPE(LIBRARY) in IGDSMSxx.This applies to everything, SMS assigned or not. So even ISPF data sets that are not recommended to be PDSE are (but I've never seen a problem because of it). Mark -- Mark Zelden Sr. Software and Systems Architect - z/OS Team Lead Zurich North America / Farmers Insurance Group - ZFUS G-ITO mailto:mark.zel...@zurichna.com z/OS Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ Mark's MVS Utilities: http://home.flash.net/~mzelden/mvsutil.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html The information contained in this electronic communication and any document attached hereto or transmitted herewith is confidential and intended for the exclusive use of the individual or entity named above. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or the employee or agent responsible for delivering it to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any examination, use, dissemination, distribution or copying of this communication or any part thereof is strictly prohibited. If you have received this communication in error, please immediately notify the sender by reply e-mail and destroy this communication. Thank you. -- Frank Swarbrick Applications Architect - Mainframe Applications Development FirstBank Data Corporation - Lakewood, CO USA P: 303-235-1403 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Sub Capacity Reporting for non IBM Vendors
More precisely: if you run ABC product on LPAR1 (only) and LPAR1 highest usage is nnn MSU then you pay for product ABC as it would consume nnn MSU on that LPAR. And it doesn't matter that you ran the product only once, 3 days before the peak occured. We ran into something similar when we convinced an ISV to go to usage base, rather than the entire footprint. The alternative for the vendor was the discontinuation of the licence. Anyway, the product ran under a CIC region that consumed (under peak) less than 3% of the physical processor. So, I implemented an SCRT process for the product. The 4HRA peak was at night (all batch) when the CICS region wasn't even up. My management complained, at first, but I pointed out, while it wasn't perfect, it saved us 180,000USD. - Too busy driving to stop for gas! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Cost/benefit analysis... Ah. Well, still cheaper than a 1Gbit/sec line for 24 hours... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
You laugh ... I am working with a company that literally did this. They shipped a very large disk array to the central computing center and placed it next to the production array; synchronously copied all the data; found a quiet point on a Sunday morning and split the link; uncabled the array; shipped it across country to the BC site (Business Continuity now, not Disaster Recovery); they are in the process of cabling it up; will turn it on next weekend and away with go with a recovery drill. I didn't write the cost/benefit analysis for this. Tom Moulder P S wrote: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 6:26 PM, Edward Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.com wrote: Cost/benefit analysis... Ah. Well, still cheaper than a 1Gbit/sec line for 24 hours... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: PDSE HELP Required.
Frank Swarbrick wrote: Everyone might be interested to know that there are some IMS datasets (I forget which) that *cannot* be PDSE. They must be PDS. Yes, PDSEs do not allow NOTE list TTRs in the directory entry. This is one reason why regular load modules cannot be housed in PDSEs. Cheers, Greg -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
At 17:02 -0400 on 09/11/2009, P S wrote about Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed: On Fri, Sep 11, 2009 at 3:00 PM, Kelman, Tom thomas.kel...@commercebank.com wrote: I know this isn't actually a mainframe topic, but it is computer related and kind of funny. I'm just glad I'm not a performance analyst for Telkom. http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20090910/od_nm/us_safrica_pigeon Cute, but not so dramatic. In 2001, I was doing a gig, and one of the things they asked about was transferring a 100TB disk array from Japan to the US. They were thinking of renting a 1GB line, but that was pretty expensive. I did a quick calculation and pointed out that if they could shut it down, unship it, get it on a plane, fly it to the US, and plug it back in over a 24-hour period, that was about the same throughput (Of course, if the plane went down, they were out of business!) You make a copy of the Drive and send it. Also, what about the backups of the drive you are supposed to be making (if you need to recreate it)? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed
At 14:31 -0700 on 09/11/2009, Edward Jaffe wrote about Re: Carrier Pigeon beats Internet Speed: P S wrote: Cute, but not so dramatic. In 2001, I was doing a gig, and one of the things they asked about was transferring a 100TB disk array from Japan to the US. They were thinking of renting a 1GB line, but that was pretty expensive. I did a quick calculation and pointed out that if they could shut it down, unship it, get it on a plane, fly it to the US, and plug it back in over a 24-hour period, that was about the same throughput (Of course, if the plane went down, they were out of business!) And, airfare from Japan to the U.S. isn't free... Only if it is being hand copied as opposed to being shipped. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
