Re: another DCOLLECT question
If you look at all members of a GDG, and they are created on a reasonable schedule (once a week or day, etc.), you can predict the lifetime of the members. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:10 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: And on top of that there is the LIMIT parameter of a GDG, that can cause a delete of a GDG member on a totally unpredictable moment. Or I'd rather say: on yet another predetermined moment, not calculable from DCOLLECT data. Kees. Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote in message news:CAJTOO58m6b3Qax7+9zA3Tp7P-4mvixp_YQsBvVEpqb=c2k-...@mail.gmail.com ... In the Management class, there is one field that says to delete so many days after creation, and another field that says to delete so many days after the last access. Zero means don't apply this rule. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: David, thank you. The UMCLASS provides the DFSMSHSM management class. But how do I go from having that information to providing a report with the dataset name, creation date and expiration date? where do I get the expiration date once I have the management class in a manner that I can write a program? I need to provide the report for what amounts over 1 million datasets. Regards, Uriel -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Blades versus z was Re: Turn Off Another Light - Univ. of Tennessee
On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 3:55 PM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl wrote: I meant it's hard to justfiy the choice: to buy IFL (plus rest of mainframe) or x64 servers. I meant Linux on IFL is *much* more expensive than on x64 servers. Things like power, cooling, floor space, staffing won't change it, but the software licenses could do it. BTW: I did not mention RAS, but not everyone will pay for good RollRoyce, some of us choose Toyota. You can buy and power 300 servers cheaper than one IFL? IBM says that many servers would cost 10 times as much to power and cool. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: another DCOLLECT question
Well, read the management classes into a table, with name, number of days to keep after creation, number of days to keep after last access. Then read each dataset, look up the management class, and report creation date, last access date, and the two deletion dates. I believe the data set is deleted when the first deletetion date is reached. Accessing the dataset would extend that deletion date, you would have to change the management class name or the management class to extend the other date. You may need to educate them on why you have the 4 dates instead of the 2 they requested. On Thu, Sep 6, 2012 at 7:36 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: Thank you all for your reply. I am learning from the explanations provided. The datasets are sequential files that have an associated management-class and they all have a LIMIT required by our legal and auditing department in most cases and the business departments in some other cases. I am given a HLQ (high level qualifier) and I am expected to provide a report with the following headings: HLQ Dataset CreationDate ExpirationDate Each HLQ produces thousands and thousands of datasets with some cases in the million. Regards, Uriel -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SMP/E - Applying service to WAS
http://www-01.ibm.com/support/docview.wss?uid=isg1OA36700 GIve these instructions a shot. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 5:14 AM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: The volume where the WAS ZFS resides definitely has room. I confirmed this by using the zfsadm grow command. Could the output be going to a different directory? Gadi -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Itschak Mugzach Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 12:56 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: SMP/E - Applying service to WAS It is the disk volume where your ZFS resides. ITschak On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 12:50 PM, גדי בן אבי gad...@malam.com wrote: Hi, As part of a large package of PTFS, I am applying service to WAS OEM. The PTF’s are UK76762, UK76768 and UK76773. The APPLY fails with these messages: BPXF151I BPXCOPY WAS INVOKED FOR HEAD ID 01. BPXF150I MVS DATA SET WITH DDNAME SYSUT1 SUCCESSFULLY COPIED INTO TEXT HFS FILE /usr/lpp/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/IBM/BBN7COSH. BPXF151I BPXCOPY WAS INVOKED FOR HEAD ID 02. BPXF150I MVS DATA SET WITH DDNAME SYSUT1 SUCCESSFULLY COPIED INTO TEXT HFS FILE /usr/lpp/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/IBM/BBN7DSCR --- DATE 09/09/12 TIME 12:18:56 SMP/E 36.07 SHELL SCRIPT BBN7DSCR OUTPUT FOR SHELLSCR BBN7DSCR SEQ NUM 03 Starting script processing... Directory /Z13/usr/lpp/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0/bin already exists. Attempting to delete WAS directories and components using rm command. find: FSUM6004 write error on standard output: EDC5133I NO SPACE LEFT ON DEVICE. ** find /Z13/usr/lpp/zWebSphereOEM/V7R0 command failed with status 1 Exiting script with status 1 What is the device mentioned in EDC5133I? Thanks Gadi -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Disk data set space allocation, philosophy
SORTWK does not use secondary extents. Gradully change the SMS SPACE default toward 1/16th of a volume (up to 64K Cylinders) for primary and secondary. That would allow it to fill up an empty volume before going to the next volume. Actually, if they could look at the size of their dataset after a test run, they should be able to put that into the production JCL. Perhaps 110% primary, 20% secondary. On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 8:40 PM, John McKown joa...@swbell.net wrote: I decided to ask this forum about a problem we have were I work. In summary, the programmers don't want to be forced to specify SPACE parameters in the JCL (or IDCAMS DEFINEs). They also don't want to be forced to use SORTWKnn allocations or do specify any SIZE type parameters in the controls. This latter works for JCL invoked DFSORTs. I have set the default so high that it can sort almost anything in the shop. I say almost because we had a job abend SE37-08 in an internal sort. My solution was to tell the person responsible for the job to change it to include about 30 SORTWKnn DD statements with SPACE=(CYL,(2000,100)). The only reason that I said so over the top was to be 99.9% sure that would be enough. But I will bet that the programmer will complain. They, basically, just want the system to handle space allocations. We do not have, and WILL NOT ACQUIRE any software such as SRS. We only use what is available with DFSMS and DFSORT. The previous storage administrator set up every DISK DATACLAS with a Dynamic Volume Count of 59, which is the max, and told the programmers to use SPACE=(CYL,(500,100)) for everything, unless they thought that they needed more. The tape DATACLAS is set up to make the default 190 tapes, instead of the normal 5, because it would take too much work to make JCL changes. This latter I can understand because 90% of the work is putting in Change Control paperwork (no, this will not change). I have tried everything that I can think of to basically tell SMS to allow unlimited allocations. Have I missed some SMS parameter? Should I make all sequential data sets extended format so that they can have 123 extents per volume instead of only 16? Is there any negative to this? More CPU, slower I/O, anything? Does it work with DFSORT SORTWKnn DDs, the DFSORT manual seems to say that it does. If you noticed from previous messages, IT management is anti-z/OS so they basically just don't work to be bothered with it. Like because MS-Windows is such a POS that they need to concentrate on it. Makes me wonder why they adore it. -- John McKown Maranatha! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ShopzSeries SSL Connectivity Test
TRACETCP does route tracing using the port number you specify to find the IP address that is blocking the connection. Freeware download. On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 1:04 PM, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, 13 Sep 2012 06:44:53 -0700, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: Turn on some FTP tracing. You can do it in FTP.DATA. Take a look at the TRACE (?) statement in the CS configuration manuals and pick some plausible options. Charles Not much new with TRACE in the FTP.DATA: EZA1554I Connecting to: dispby-117.boulder.ibm.com 170.225.15.117 port: 21. 220-IBM's internal systems must only be used for conducting IBM's 220-business or for purposes authorized by IBM management. 220- 220-Use is subject to audit at any time by IBM management. 220- 220 dhebpcb01 secure FTP server ready. GU4945 ftpSetApplData: entered EZA1701I AUTH TLS 234 SSLv23/TLSv1 FC0994 authServer: secure_socket_init failed with rc = 420 (Socket closed by rem ote partner) EZA2897I Authentication negotiation failed EZA1534I *** Control connection with dispby-117.boulder.ibm.com dies. Still nothing substantive about rc = 420 that I can find anywhere. Time to try poke hole in firewall, I guess. -jc- -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Creating .xls on z/OS
Have you tried putting in =A1+B2 between commas for a cell value? 1,2,=SUM(A1:B1) 11,22,=SUM(A2:B2) =SUM(A1:A2),=SUM(B1:B2),=A1+B2 On Fri, Sep 14, 2012 at 4:08 PM, Martin Packer martin_pac...@uk.ibm.com wrote: .CSV won't contain formulae. Don't know if that's what bothers the OP - but it bothers ME as I'd like to generate them in REXX. Cheers, Martin Martin Packer, -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Phony IBM press release from 1980 for Mainframe-Attached Toilet
Or TCP/IP (Toilet Control Program / Internet Protocol). On Sat, Sep 15, 2012 at 10:48 AM, Charles Mills charl...@mcn.org wrote: The response has been gratifying. My only regret is that it does not reference the USS (Universal Sanitary System) feature. That must have been a follow-on announcement. Charles -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Charles Mills Sent: Friday, September 14, 2012 3:54 PM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Phony IBM press release from 1980 for Mainframe-Attached Toilet Here's a Friday topic if there ever was one. A friend who is cleaning out his place just sent me a scan of a purported IBM DPD press release (on what appears to be genuine DPD letterhead) from 12/11/1980 announcing the model 3082 Attached Toilet. (The 3082 is a multi-port, user-operated waste removal system with continuous roll forms ... featuring NCP (Network Commode Protocol).) It's a PDF of a medium quality scan, about 500K. If anyone wants a copy send me a private note: charlesm at mcn dot org. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Shana Tova (Happy new Jewish year)
Lets hope none of them is the horn from The Horn Blows At Midnight. On Sun, Sep 16, 2012 at 6:25 PM, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: Chag Sameach. [In English, Feast of Trumpets] I'm not Jewish, but I do observe. Obviously I will not be in the office tomorrow. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there a correspondence between 64-bit IBM mainframes and PoOps editions levels?
On Mon, Sep 17, 2012 at 5:42 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: I doubt that what you want is available without caveats. The notices section of all recent versions of the publication you call the PoOps---Why the 's'?--- and I prefer to call the PrOp contain some such weasel language as begin extract All facilities discussed in this publication are not necessarily available on every model. Furthermore, in some instances the definitions have been structured to allow for some degree of extendibility (sic), . . . For information about the characteristics and availability of facilities on a specific model see the functional characteristics publication for that model. /end extract You did not make clear just what you want to do with this information; I can only guess, perhaps wrongly, thjat you want to relate the usability of some assembly-language features to model numbers; and you may well be able to do something of that sort usefully if only very inexactly. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA The main item that varies between models is how much physical and virtual memory you can actually address. The z900 jumped beyond 31 bits, but the maximum creeps up a few bits with every model. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT - disappearing responses
Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some server is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once. Really bad for yahoo groups. I much prefer gmail as my message handler. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:47 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Rich, Mail list via yahoo Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 18, 2012, at 8:18 PM, Rich Greenberg ric...@panix.com wrote: In article 3ed55f17-8b97-4292-9c4d-c04797006...@yahoo.com you write: I have replied to several Postings and my reply disappeared. It there something on with the Listserv How are you reading and how are you responding? Usenet? Mailing list? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PoOps, Poo, PrOp and friends (was Is there a correspondence between...)
zPlane! zPlane! - Tatoo. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 3:07 AM, David Cole dbc...@colesoft.com wrote: deleted zProOps deleted -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why File transfer through TSO IND$FILE is slower than TCP/IP FTP ?
Try larger blocksizes. Much older program. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Tsai Laurence ltsai85...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers , as the subject, test file transfer through TSO IND$FILE TCP/IP FTP , and found TSO IND$FILE is much slower than FTP. Any idea why ? Regards, Laurence -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Why File transfer through TSO IND$FILE is slower than TCP/IP FTP ?
Here is Microsoft's suggestions for increasing the speed, from 2004. http://support.microsoft.com/kb/125881 On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 7:58 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Mike, I use 32k on Qws3270p ... Scott ford www.identityforge.com On Sep 19, 2012, at 8:16 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: Try larger blocksizes. Much older program. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:34 AM, Tsai Laurence ltsai85...@gmail.com wrote: Dear listers , as the subject, test file transfer through TSO IND$FILE TCP/IP FTP , and found TSO IND$FILE is much slower than FTP. Any idea why ? Regards, Laurence -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT - disappearing responses
That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when you upload any attachments, you are certain it gets to your email host anyway. On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 6:50 PM, Farley, Peter x23353 peter.far...@broadridge.com wrote: Why all this web mail stuff? Doesn't anybody actually use their ISP's mail servers with an actual mail client sending and receiving the mail on their PC anymore? Peter -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Elardus Engelbrecht Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 4:58 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: OT - disappearing responses Mike Schwab wrote: Yahoo gets the Yahooties every few months. Messages back up until some server is rebooted, then you get weeks of posts all at once. Really bad for yahoo groups. Ouch. Ouch. Ouch! One more reason why I don't use yahoo. Perhaps it is just me, but I'm not a 'yahoo'. ;-D I much prefer gmail as my message handler. For myself, to avoid posting problems, I prefer using the list serv web page where I can do my postings. [1] To Scott: Try using another method of posting, for example another e-mail address or directly on list serv? Can you do that? Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT - disappearing responses
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 10:19 AM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 8:01 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.comwrote: That account goes away if you change providers or move and have to change providers. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation. And when you upload any attachments, you are certain it gets to your email host anyway. Plus it enables a lot of impersonation.?? Huh? How is a webmail account any more immune to this? -- zMan -- I've got a mainframe and I'm not afraid to use it Someone could start their PC, start their email client, enter your email as the sender, and start sending emails through your account via SMTP by only getting your email address. No password required. Web pages do require passwords to access your account. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT - disappearing responses
This is not YOUR PC at home or work. This is the HACKER's PC and they enter your email address or a fake email as the sender. On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 11:02 AM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: Nobody can start my PC at home without a password. At work, a administrator can do so. But, since they have access to everything else, they don't need to bother. Nobody else can just walk up and use my PC. I leave it locked when I leave my desk. Unless they have cracked my password, of course. -- John McKown -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ShopzSeries SSL Connectivity Test
On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 2:43 PM, John Chase jonboy...@gmail.com wrote: deleted By chance, does the ECuRep server (where we upload PMR documentation) require the GeoTrust Global CA as well? I've had similar fun trying th test an SSL connection there, too. Thanks, Once you accept a Certificate Authority, you should be set for any of their certificates. I don't know if that is what that site uses. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: PL/I Compile error unresolved symbols
Here is the library page for Enterprise PL/I
http://www-01.ibm.com/software/awdtools/pli/plizos/library/
The Compiler and Run time migration books should contain what changes
you need between versions.
There is a DCL STR BUILTIN, but it is not actually refered to by
anything. You can remove it.
DCL LLIB(10) CHAR(44) INIT(' ');
Could have 10 blank literals seperated by commas?
DCL DISP(20) FIXED BIN(15) INIT(0);
Could have 20 zero literals seperated by commas?
Looks like there is some missing code in LOAD_DIR: PROC;
This is routine to read a PDS directory, and P is an pointer within
the directory block.
But I don't see a definition or how the pointer is assigned.
('DCL 1 ENTRY BASED(P), ' but you don't define P
DCL P POINTER; should be added.)
After the read and before the loop, the P should be set to the start
of the block, then at the end of the loop it should be incremented to
the next entry, or to read the next block.
Not quite sure what to add here.
Perhaps this was the last saved version, they fixed it out of their
personal library and didn't save the final version. If they have a
printed version, you could rekey the changes.
On Sat, Sep 29, 2012 at 9:24 AM, Cifani, Domenic domenic.cif...@hp.com wrote:
Tony
I attached the code and compile msgs. The user told me that the last
compile may have been completed years ago.
Domenic
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Re: Help with DF-Sort not being able to allocat enough work data set space
On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 5:27 AM, Hunkeler Peter (KIUP 4) peter.hunke...@credit-suisse.com wrote: deleted Is there any other option I could try, or am I stuck to DYNALLOC=(SYSDA,nnn) with a reasonably high nnn? -- Peter Hunkeler You could split the input file into parts by number of records or the high part of the key, sort each part, then merge the parts (or concatenate the datasets in key range order). -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Zero length records outlawed! (Again.)
Yep. The MVS 380 project ran into that. Empty lines were stored as 1 blank and could not remove without an error. On Wed, Oct 3, 2012 at 4:34 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: In: Title: z/OS V1R13 DFSMS Using Data Sets Document Number: SC26-7410-11 2.1.2.2.1 Record Processing for UNIX Files I read: Each record prefix is mapped by the IGGRPFX macro. It is the following four bytes: Offset Length Symbol Description 0 1 RPFX00 Reserved. 1 3 RPFXLLLLength of record that follows this prefix. ... If any record in the file consists of zero bytes (that is, the length field in the record prefix contains zero) or if any record is longer than the length of the buffer, it results in an error return code for GET. Sigh. Morons. Why did they do that!? It's like being back in old OS/360 which specified the minimum count field in an RDW as 5. -- gil -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Has anyone taken out hardware support for z196 from anyone other than IBM
On Thu, Oct 4, 2012 at 2:21 AM, Timothy Sipples1 sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: Aren't they under IBM warranty for the first year? Timothy Sipples I thought it was a 3 year minimum. Its only been out for 2 years. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Problems with GIM SMP installation
https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!topic/bit.listserv.ibm-main/aPtNlOsWlMQ Insufficient space. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 8:41 AM, Alvaro Guirao Lopez alvarogui...@gmail.com wrote: Hi listers, I'm trying to download SW package through GIM SMP installation, but I have some problems: --GIMUNZIP -- ARCHDEF -- archid=ROOTDB2.300 -- newname=/usr/lpp/db2/SERVICE/db21010 -- replace=yes -- preserveid=yes/ --/GIMUNZIP GIM68200E ** PROCESSING FAILED FOR THE /bin/pax UNIX SYSTEM SERVICE COMMAND. GIM47800S ** AN ERROR OCCURRED WHILE GIMUNZIP WAS PROCESSING ARCHIVE ROOTDB2.300 GIM20501IGIMUNZIP PROCESSING IS COMPLETE. THE HIGHEST RETURN CODE WAS 12. Anybody has suffered something like this? I'm seeking the manuals but I don't found any GIM messages manuals. Thanks in advance. -- Un saludo. Álvaro Guirao -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Reorganizing Partition Table Space With REBALANCE Option Problem.
SORT FIELDS=(5.0,00028.0,A),FORMAT=BI,FILSZ=E04979426640, DYNAOC=(SYSDA,04) RECORD TYPE=V,LENGTH=(00070,00070,00070) 5 billion record, 70 bytes per record, 350GB. 4 SORTWK files, so 350GB / 3 = 120GB per volume. If you have smaller volumes you will need more of them. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFSMSHSM Management Class Question
When a dataset is deleted, the migration information is also deleted. The backup is deleted when the 'retain days only backup' has been expired. It could have migrated before a backup was taken. And it won't automatically delete unless there is a backup. If you issue the HBACKDS on it, I would bet the migrated dataset would be deleted after 24 hours. Then the last backup would be deleted after the 'retain days only backup' has been expired. On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Uriel Carrasquilla uriel.carrasqui...@mail.mcgill.ca wrote: I ran the HLIST command on both, the dataset properly deleted and the one that was not. Even when they both have the same management and storage class, I found that for the dataset properly delete, it had no MCDS information and the BCDS information was present. That is not the case for the one that was supposed to be deleted but it was not. It had the MCDS but no BCDS information. Why would the BCDS be missing? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFSMSHSM Management Class Question
You can require a backup before allowing migration to prevent this. Might increase utilization of primary volumes with datasets needing a backup. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 7:37 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: If you wish to change the default behavior of DFHSM to *NOT* require a backup before deletion, use the DBU patch described in my previous post.. snip If there is no BCDS information for a dataset, then as far as HSM is concerned the dataset has no backup. Unless you patch HSM, it will not delete a dataset that has no backup. Determining how this occurred may be more trouble than it is worth if the datasets were migrated long ago. You could start tracking newly migrated datasets to determine if the situation repeats and possibly catch it while there is enough data to correct the cause. /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFHSM Recalls and Tape
When it HSM finishes a recall, it checks the que in order for any recall on the same tape. When it reaches the end of the que, it unmounts the tape, and starts recalling the first waiting dataset on the que. Haven't done as massive a quantity as 10,000 though. No sorting of any kind, just checking the que DSN against the list on the mounted tape. On Wed, Oct 10, 2012 at 5:27 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Just want to make sure I understand what IBM told me once. Is it true that when you have a large number of recalls (and I am talking 10,000 or more at a time) that HSM will identify which ones are on which migration tapes and stack them accordingly. Or is it still a manual process of identifying which datasets are on what migration tapes and doing the recalls in tape volser bundle? For example I may have 3000 datasets on tape V00012. So I would pull a list of datasets on that tape and then issue the recall for all of those files in one recall bunch. Or could I recall all 10,000 files and HSM will recall the datasets all from the same tape at one time and not do mount tape, unmount tape, mount tape, unmount tape and so on. Thanks Lizette -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Delete Catalogs from VVCR
I have this jcl to run before taking a volume offline. //jobname JOB acct,programmer,CLASS=c etc //SDELVVDS EXEC PGM=IDCAMS //Vvolser DD UNIT=DISK,VOL=SER=volser,DISP=SHR //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSINDD * DELETE SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser CAT(ICFCAT.usercat1) FILE(Vvolser) NSCR DELETE SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser CAT(SYS1.MVSCTLG$) FILE(Vvolser) NSCR IF MAXCC EQ 8 THEN SET MAXCC = 0 DELETE SYS1.VVDS.Vvolser CAT(ICFCAT.usercat9) FILE(Vvolser) Make sure the last DELETE without the NSCR (after the IF) exists and you should be set. (This might be different than what you need to do.) On Thu, Oct 11, 2012 at 1:46 PM, Martin, Larry D ldmar...@co.pg.md.us wrote: I have old (no longer exist) catalog names in the VVCR record of many VVDS's. It says in z/OS V1R13.0 DFSMS AMS for Catalogs: Only catalogs that reside on the converted volume need to have their names in the VVCR. You can remove unneeded catalog names from the VVCR by using DELETE VVDS NOSCRATCH with the CATALOG parameter referencing the catalog to be deleted from the VVCR. I have tried a few variations with no success. Does anyone know how to code the IDCAMS statements to accomplish this task? (In accordance with another topic on the list - we can't ask questions at all). Thanks,.Larry This E-mail and any of its attachments may contain Prince George’s County Government or Prince George's County 7th Judicial Circuit Court proprietary information or Protected Health Information, which is privileged and confidential. This E-mail is intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed. If you are not the intended recipient of this E-mail, you are hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution, copying, or action taken in relation to the contents of and attachments to this E-mail is strictly prohibited by federal law and may expose you to civil and/or criminal penalties. If you have received this E-mail in error, please notify the sender immediately and permanently delete the original and any copy of this E-mail and any printout. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Humor for Friday: Reasons for not coming to work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGlmXBxQZl8 Seven Year Itch scene. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:36 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: deleted Employee's toe was stuck in a faucet deleted -- John McKown -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFSMShsm Abend S878
We had z/OS 1.13 HSM abend S878-10 at 1am Monday. IBM tracked down an open APAR. It allocates a small amount of space for each volser during migration. Forgets to free the memory, and eventually chews up all private memory below the 24 bit line in SYSHSM*. It was opened in Sept, Should be out by the end of the year. Local fix is to bound HSM periodically (weekly/monthly). We were up on a busy LPAR for 2 months before it crashed. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:02 PM, Munish Sharma mf291...@gmail.com wrote: We had an issue on one system wherein hsm cds backups were failing on LPAR1 with RC=12 and REAS=08. The jrnl backups were going fine. When browsing through the activity logs, I came across the following: ADR376E (ttt)-m(yy), UNABLE TO ACQUIRE ADDITIONAL STORAGE FOR THE TASK Since dfdss tries a concurrent backup of all 3 cds' to tape, I think it is facing a memory issue. But since journal is not included in this concurrency, it always goes fine. Also, situation is compounded for hsm since mcds is multi-cluster. So it requires the more memory. But the backup on LPAR2 was running fine. So I think it comes down to the region size on both tasks. LPAR1 has 8M but LPAR2 has 0M. Therefore I guess LPAR2 has the capability to scale up the region size required by dfdss. Shall we try modifying the REGION parm for LPAR1 and test the backvolcds command OR As earlier suggested the Use the DSSXMMODE(?) SETSYS parm to run DSS in its own cross-memory address space ..clearly in this case as well... It's happening as too many DFDSS tasks are running in HSM., to backup the multiple CDS's Regards Munish Sharma -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: DFSMSHSM Management Class Question
Correct. You can require a backup before a migration is allowed. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Munish Sharma mf291...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sometimes due to Manual migration ... .. DFSMShsm... doesn't get time to backup a DSN.. and it ended up on ML1/ML2.. depending upone MC allows it. Regards Munish... -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Pars Ipars TPF and APC
LPAR (Logical Partition) = 1 region of mainframe memory assigned to an operating system. The host is microcode in the mainframe. LPARs is the plural. It was released in the 1990s as an outgrowth of VM/ESA. z/TPF (Transaction Processing Facility) is a very high speed operating system that spreads files across many disk volumes. Originally called APF (Airline Processing Facility). The actual compiles are done under z/OS then the object modules are transferred. IBM wrote the operating system and compilers for software but the individual companies wrote the appliction software customized for each company. Yes, errors creep into the software, but the individual sites have to verify everything works before using their final software for production (handling sales). Most mainframe software is closed source, vendor written and supported. The CBTTAPE site is where most mainframe open source programs are shared. But these are just utility programs that assist the operating systems. Without know what the bug is (I. E. Royal Bank of Scotland several day outage) it is very hard to assign blame. On Wed, Oct 17, 2012 at 8:46 PM, T Gold tgold8...@verizon.net wrote: Now that I got your attention. I came here to find anyone in public or private that wants to talk about pars, ipars, tpf and or apc or all of the above. Long story about how I was sucked into this issue, but recent legal battles concerning the GDSs lead me to dig into more concerning the actual systems the GDSs, CRSs and the modules the airline industry uses. In short it mostly seems to be IBM. Recent statements by the major GDSs are that their problems are IBM's fault. I've love to see IBM follow that up with a statement in the manner of Stop using our code or be subject to legal penalties. Is Pars or Ipars an actual operating system? Is it open or closed? I read that IBM did do a lot of support for the airlines. But how much control or oversight did they or do they have over the use of their code in these modules? I guess I have too many questions and not enouch answers yet so i'll end there. The issue of what exactly are they coding in and is it an OS or a protocol and if it is open or closed source. Turiyan -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Looking after Steve Samson's book
http://www.cmg.org/measureit/issues/mit65/m_65_7.html Mostly replaced by Workload Manager. On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 4:23 AM, Thierry Deleris thierry.deleris_s...@i-bp.banquepopulaire.fr wrote: Hello, I'm looking after Steve Samson last book 'MVS Performance Management - z/OS Version 1 (I've got the OS/390 one thanks to CBT Tape) I know that he was retired since some years and that his selling web site is out of duty but is anybody could tell me where and how I could get this book ? Thanks for your help, Thierry Déléris -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Nested enclaves and POSIX(ON)
Most levels are for breaking an area of memory into various fields. Not an 88 level. DATA DIVISION. ... 10 FIELD-NAME PIC X(5). 88 FIELD-NAME-TRUE VALUE 'TRUE ;. 88 FIELD-NAME-FALSE VALUE 'FALSE'. ... PROCEDURE DIVISION ... IF FIELD-NAME-TRUE THEN is equivalent to IF FIELD-NAME = 'TRUE ' THEN On Fri, Oct 19, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 19 Oct 2012 16:33:20 -0400, Kirk Talman wrote: Cobol has EVALUATE and 88 levels that can accomplish this. I know very little COBOL. But I understand that the levels are for record/control block definitions. How does this (help to) provide the function of strcasecmp()? (Perhaps a schematic example?) IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU wrote on 10/18/2012 04:21:07 PM: From: Paul Gilmartin C has the standard library function strcasecmp(). Does COBOL or PL/I provide similar. Thanks, gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Book Enquiry
Almost everything you do (did) under S/370 does still run under z/OS 1.13, excluding ISAM, VSAM IMBED / REPLICATE characteristics. Everything done under S/360 that was incorporated into S/370 is included. You could download the Turnkey3 CD and run it on your PC as a developement environment. If you want to use some usermode z/Series instructions, you could download the MVS/380 project. Some things have changed, some things have been added. The worst thing would be the old Cobol compiler did not have END- structures, so you might pick up some bad habits getting around this. On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Tom Marchant m42tom-ibmm...@yahoo.com wrote: On Mon, 22 Oct 2012 18:03:11 +0300, Raj Singh wrote: Any other suggestions(like ebook etc)/references are much appreciated. If you are looking for an introductory text for learning Assembler, you could go to bitsavers and download IBM's A Programmer's Introduction to IBM System/360 Assembler Language - Student Text. Yes, System/360. It is dated but there is useful stuff in there. Ignore the parts about coding forms. http://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/ibm/360/asm/SC20-1646-6_int360asm_Aug70.pdf -- Tom Marchant -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Book Enquiry
http://xkcd.com/163/ On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Roberts, John J jrobe...@dhs.state.ia.us wrote: deleted Actually, speaking of Professor Knuth, I use his name as an interview question. Any Candidate that doesn't immediately recognize the name doesn't get my recommendation. John -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Book Enquiry
http://www-cs-faculty.stanford.edu/~uno/taocp.html#vol4 On Mon, Oct 22, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Lizette Koehler stars...@mindspring.com wrote: Actually, speaking of Professor Knuth, I use his name as an interview question. Any Candidate that doesn't immediately recognize the name doesn't get my recommendation. John We're not worthy We're not worthy. Lizette -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Yes, emails are (implied) copyrighted when you make them available for other computers to see (post on a web page or send an email, drafts or password protected files excluded), even without an explicit copyright notice. Reworking someone else's copyrighted work it becomes a jointly authored work if you include them as the author and should had their authorization (something like a wiki you acknowledge subsequent authors have the right to modify the document). You should include a reference to the original. Reworking someone else's work making it look like they were the sole author is one form of a crime (similar to libel). Copying (and or reworking) someone else's work looking like it is your sole work is another form of a crime (similar to theft). On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 12:14 PM, McKown, John john.mck...@healthmarkets.com wrote: I don't think another email forum for the z is needed. We have IBM-MAIN, IBMTCP-L, MVS-OE, CICS-L, ASSEMBLER-LIST, Linux-390 and likely even more. IANAL, but I wonder what the copyright status is of the messages which are sent on a public email forum. I just don't see how anybody could assert a copyright claim on them (thinking about Lindy's response about one person who considers his knowledge to be his property). So maintaining an independent archive is likely legal (if not, Google is in trouble). I also wonder how much editing that one could get away with. What I was thinking of was perhaps a raw archive (perhaps indexed or threaded) and, from that, make an FAQ wiki like site which took the information, organized it, but include hyperlinks back to the raw archive message(s) from which the information was cribbed. Might even have links to vendor documentation, if such is available. IBM very nicely has a good Web documentation site that I often reference in a reply so that other's can evaluate things for themselves. All that I've been able to find for CA are PDF documents, and you need to log into their support site to get access to them. So I doubt it would be legal to webify them so that you could give a hyperlink to a web page containing their information. Other vendors seem to be like CA. They don't seem to want their documentation to be easily accessed via the Web in an unfettered manner. Oh, wait, Dovetail Technologies man pages for their zero-cost software is easily gotten to via unfettered access and hyperlinks. -- John McKown -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Correction to Carmine's Book Cost
Corporations never die. They get bought out or go bankrupt and assests (including book, movie, and song copyrights) are sold for a figurative song. On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 1:19 PM, Steve Thompson sthomp...@us.ibm.com wrote: deleted At one point, the extension past demise was based on whether or not the creator was well known (Ok, get a bunch of attorneys together and get them to define that term). So it was something like 10 years for a non-well known author, and 25 years for a well known author. The recent change is causing some to question if what the US Congress did is actually a violation of the US Constitution in this area, as things were intended to go into the public domain after a/an [reasonable] amount of time. That is, a copyright was not to be inperpetuity. Regards, Steve Thompson -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Strange z196 LOAD behavior
Hardware / License Internal Code / ESC hardware service call. On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 1:32 PM, zMan zedgarhoo...@gmail.com wrote: ? So the HMC isn't a component? Sure it is... On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 11:59 AM, R.S. r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.plwrote: Well, I do have hardware and I do have a problem (actually I found walk-around - LPAR re-Activation). I'm not sure wheher it's APARable, since no z/OS software is started yet when the error occurs. Regards -- Radoslaw Skorupka Lodz, Poland -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Command to display devices that exist but are offline
TSO ISPF ISMF 2 (Volumes) 1 (DASD) Y to display values in 2 fields. On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 7:09 AM, Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com wrote: Such as displaying the devices that went offline during IPL because they had duplicate serials. -- Binyamin Dissen bdis...@dissensoftware.com -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: The Internet
That is the town that Jersey Shore is filmed in. Looks like Snooki might be out of a job one season early. On Fri, Nov 2, 2012 at 3:55 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Steve and Ed: Its been really interesting. The place Seaside Heights they have been showing on the news, we rented a house 10 mins from there to the north in LaVallette ...its all a big barrier built up island. After seeing pictures i am pretty shocked to say the least. I am north and west of there about 45 mins Scott J Ford Software Engineer http://www.identityforge.com/ -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: switching to new shared sms commds
How are the migrated datasets and backup tapes being merged in? On secondary systems recall all migrated datasets then backup and migrate from primary system and deleted backup on secondary system before swap MCDS BCDS? On Tue, Nov 6, 2012 at 6:03 PM, Leong, Dennis, ITD dennis.le...@acgov.org wrote: Hello, I want to switch to new sms commds on current environment that has same commds shared by 3 lpars. I come from an older sms environment where each lpar had their own set of cds's so this is different. Will there be any problems (on the other lpars) if I do the setsms commds to point to a new commds for the first lpar? I believe I will need to issue the same setsms on all lpars to point to new commds. We are z/os 1.13. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMIGRATE in parallel
How about adding a VSAM keyword that after reading the VTOC, looks up the VSAM CLUSTER and migrates the entire VSAM SPHERE too? Yes, it is slower, but doing each dataset is even slower. Any way of doing something with 0 track or invalid datasets? I.E, reallocating them on another volume then deleting the old dataset? I think the ongoing example is a MANAGEMENT CLASS instead of a whole storage group. Of course, the STORAGEGROUP option would be great if limited to DISABLED storage groups or DISABLED volumes within that group, skipping any volume or storage group that is ENABLED. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Glenn Wilcock wilc...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi, other customers with similar scenarios have requested multitasking support for MIGRATE VOLUME and the addition of a MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command. I am currently 'Accepting' requirements for this type of functionality. Assuming that we deliver this type of functionality in an upcoming release, hopefully it will provide the functionality that you need by switching from single-tasked data set level migrations to parallel-tasked volume or storage group level migrations. Use Case: After a customer creates their DB2 image copies in a specific storage group, they want to be able to issue a single MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command and have HSM migrate all of the images copies to tape, using highly parallel tasking. (They want to do it via command so that they can control the specific timeframe that it runs as opposed to during IM top of the hour, which often conflicts with other processing). Glenn Wilcock - DFSMShsm Architect -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMIGRATE in parallel
Oh, and how about a RETRY(#minutes) that retries after a pause of #minutes for datasets that don't migrate, and a SHUTDOWN option to retry during SHUTDOWN and a STARTUP option to retry when the system is restarted. This would help get DISABLED volume empty. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:17 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: How about adding a VSAM keyword that after reading the VTOC, looks up the VSAM CLUSTER and migrates the entire VSAM SPHERE too? Yes, it is slower, but doing each dataset is even slower. Any way of doing something with 0 track or invalid datasets? I.E, reallocating them on another volume then deleting the old dataset? I think the ongoing example is a MANAGEMENT CLASS instead of a whole storage group. Of course, the STORAGEGROUP option would be great if limited to DISABLED storage groups or DISABLED volumes within that group, skipping any volume or storage group that is ENABLED. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM, Glenn Wilcock wilc...@us.ibm.com wrote: Hi, other customers with similar scenarios have requested multitasking support for MIGRATE VOLUME and the addition of a MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command. I am currently 'Accepting' requirements for this type of functionality. Assuming that we deliver this type of functionality in an upcoming release, hopefully it will provide the functionality that you need by switching from single-tasked data set level migrations to parallel-tasked volume or storage group level migrations. Use Case: After a customer creates their DB2 image copies in a specific storage group, they want to be able to issue a single MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command and have HSM migrate all of the images copies to tape, using highly parallel tasking. (They want to do it via command so that they can control the specific timeframe that it runs as opposed to during IM top of the hour, which often conflicts with other processing). Glenn Wilcock - DFSMShsm Architect -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.
When you Migrate by VOLUME, it does a recall of all datasets within a few minutes. When you migrate by DSN, it does not recall the dataset until requested. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's recalled before that time. Jon Perryman. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.arcf000/s6085b.htm MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1001) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG2003 MIGRATE(0)) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1002) DAYS(0) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a DFHSM command, if so I'm not familiar with that, I've always used DFDSS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HMIGRATE in parallel
Oh. If you want to recall a dataset, and the ML volume is busy, use the last backup volume instead of taking away the ML volume from a migrate task. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:49 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: I would like to see similar option w/HRECOVER. Not for the parallelism (already provided in z/OS 1.12), but to reduce the number of commands required. i.e. RECOVER an entire storage group with one command. Rather than (in my case) several hundred HRECOVER VOLUME(xx) commands per SG. snip Hi, other customers with similar scenarios have requested multitasking support for MIGRATE VOLUME and the addition of a MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command. I am currently 'Accepting' requirements for this type of functionality. Assuming that we deliver this type of functionality in an upcoming release, hopefully it will provide the functionality that you need by switching from single-tasked data set level migrations to parallel-tasked volume or storage group level migrations. Use Case: After a customer creates their DB2 image copies in a specific storage group, they want to be able to issue a single MIGRATE STORAGEGROUP command and have HSM migrate all of the images copies to tape, using highly parallel tasking. (They want to do it via command so that they can control the specific timeframe that it runs as opposed to during IM top of the hour, which often conflicts with other processing). /snip -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.
Oh, and since the dataset is written to ML1, the space it occupies is available for allocation when it is recalled. You don't occupy the space for a second dataset while it is copying. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 11:33 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: When you Migrate by VOLUME, it does a recall of all datasets within a few minutes. When you migrate by DSN, it does not recall the dataset until requested. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's recalled before that time. Jon Perryman. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.zos.r11.arcf000/s6085b.htm MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1001) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG2003 MIGRATE(0)) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1002) DAYS(0) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a DFHSM command, if so I'm not familiar with that, I've always used DFDSS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets.
A 60% full Mod 9 to VTAPE in about 10 minutes and back in about 10 more minutes. Helps if you can leave it DISABLED NEW for a week or two before cleaning up the remaining datasets. On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 1:45 AM, Vernooij, CP - SPLXM kees.verno...@klm.com wrote: All datasets from a 3390-54 in minutes? Kees. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Mike Schwab Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 18:34 To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: Using DFDSS to move multi volume SMS managed datasets. When you Migrate by VOLUME, it does a recall of all datasets within a few minutes. When you migrate by DSN, it does not recall the dataset until requested. On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:44 AM, Jon Perryman jperr...@pacbell.net wrote: The drawback to HSM migrate is that the datasets are migrated until the next use. If the use of any of these datasets can't tolerate the recall delay, then you will need to ensure it get's recalled before that time. Jon Perryman. From: Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r11/index.jsp?topic=/com.ibm.z os.r11.arcf000/s6085b.htm MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1001) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG2003 MIGRATE(0)) MIGRATE VOLUME(SG1002) DAYS(0) On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 7:30 AM, Jim McAlpine jim.mcalp...@gmail.com wrote: Is that a DFHSM command, if so I'm not familiar with that, I've always used DFDSS. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SPLEVEL SET=2
Probably got 31 bit code instead of 24 bit only code. On Fri, Sep 27, 2013 at 2:35 AM, Manfred Lotz manfred.l...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, Sep 26, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Ed Jaffe edja...@phoenixsoftware.comwrote: On 9/26/2013 2:51 AM, Manfred Lotz wrote: Hi all, I've got a very old assembler program which still has a SPLEVEL SET=2 statement at the beginning. I think that these days this is obsolete and should be removed. FWIW, we use this: SPLEVEL SET=6 Specify OS/390 R2 macro format SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2Program requires z/Architecture SYSSTATE OSREL=ZOSV1R9Program requires z/OS 1.9 and higher Thanks for this. This looks good, and I guess I will use it for new programs. However, I'm reluctant to use SYSSTATE ARCHLVL=2 in the existing source as it seems to create different code for some macros (e.g., GETMAIN). Perhaps I'm too cautious.I checked the SPLEVEL SET=6 for my source and it didn't change anything (I compared the assembler listings). -- Manfred -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))
I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of vacation sometime during the year. Makes sure other people can do you job and that no funny accounting is going on. On Sat, Sep 28, 2013 at 8:53 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In 8124033304576715.wa.elardus.engelbrechtsita.co...@listserv.ua.edu, on 09/26/2013 at 01:19 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za said: Indeed. In a mature Data Centre, such overtime may or may not be frowned on, but you know there are exceptions and of course changes needed to be done after hours. In my experience, super long shifts are expected for emergencies, either real or simulated. In that situation, sleep deprivation will impair your judgement, which is why management should step in and order you to rest even if you think that you can keep going. Providing three hots and a cut can reduce the length of an outage. Oh, and good managers will order everybody out who is not contributing to the solution[1]; they can wait until the system is back up before doing their post mortem. Changes can be scheduled to avoid excessive overtime. Typically I've seen a 4 hour window on weekdays and a longer window on weekends, but I've never been at a shop that expected a 24-hour or longer shift for routine maintenance. I don't have any confirmed proof, but apparently the Japanese people are FORCED to have leave to take a break every year. I really dislike the combination of forced leave and unpaid overtime. There's also the question of who decides when the leave is to be taken. [1] I've seen it done, and it really speeds up problem resolution when you don't have to keep explaining what happened, what you're doing about it and when the system will be back up. Are we there yet? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Quote on Slashdot.org
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)#History On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Gerhard, I wonder why the government chose Ada...? Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/29/2013 9:45 PM, John McKown wrote: is. But I don't think that Ada took off any better than PL/I did. So much for either of them being the one language to rule them all. While I don't know what the current status is, there was at one time an edict that all U.S. Government work had to be done with Ada. A friend of mine spent almost as much time finding compiler (and language definition) problems as doing coding. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Quote on Slashdot.org
Pascal is like an improved PL/I, Ada is an improved Pascal. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 8:13 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: David, I am not familiar with Ada, interesting have written C,Cobol,PL/1 . ADA like other languages sounds like it has it strengths. Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Sep 30, 2013, at 2:25 AM, David Crayford dcrayf...@gmail.com wrote: On 30/09/2013 2:11 PM, Mike Schwab wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ada_(programming_language)#History There is no doubt that Ada is a much, much better programming language then PL/I, C, COBOL etc. It's lack of popularity is probably due to the substantial inertia of it's peers, ala Betamax vs VHS. On Mon, Sep 30, 2013 at 12:11 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Gerhard, I wonder why the government chose Ada...? Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Sep 29, 2013, at 10:09 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 9/29/2013 9:45 PM, John McKown wrote: is. But I don't think that Ada took off any better than PL/I did. So much for either of them being the one language to rule them all. While I don't know what the current status is, there was at one time an edict that all U.S. Government work had to be done with Ada. A friend of mine spent almost as much time finding compiler (and language definition) problems as doing coding. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Java SDK for z/OS
http://www-01.ibm.com/common/ssi/cgi-bin/ssialias?subtype=cainfotype=anappname=iSourcesupplier=897letternum=ENUS912-249 Withdraw announcement includes links to Java SDK for z/OS 1.6 and 1.7, and various manuals. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Kurt Eastwood kurtms...@yahoo.com wrote: Hello, I am planning an upgrade from zos 1.12 to 1.13 and it appears that 5655-N99IBM 64-bit SDK for z/OS V5 is no longer supported. It appears I need to upgrade SDK to V6 or V7. The doc for SDK V6 and V7 state that some current processes may need changes going to V5 to V6 and/or V7. I inherited this system and do not know if we have any applications on the mainframe that use SDK, not even sure how they would use SDK. Can anyone tell me how to determine if SDK has or is being used on my mainframe? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks, Kurt -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Work long hours (Was Re: Pissing contest(s))
Depends on the particular branch, but I assume seniority would decide who gets priority, and the boss would make the final decision. On Tue, Oct 1, 2013 at 3:03 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In cajtoo5_ws5e7yu3assyudh+3hpfigfiqpeghhxx6c4chkcy...@mail.gmail.com, on 09/28/2013 at 10:40 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: I know in the Banking Industry, you have to take one whole week of vacation sometime during the year. What happens if they won't approve leave for the weeks that you want to take? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?
Did they Python 3 released with UTF8? https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-bugs-list/2007-October/041524.html On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 10:57:06 -0600, Mark Post wrote: On 10/3/2013 at 04:22 PM, Gord Tomlin wrote: Python is an interesting, and frustrating, case. There have been ports to s390, but the custodians of the Python trunk are unwilling to accept s390 patches into their code base, and are quite hostile to the platform. This situation is regrettable, since there is a wealth of tools built with Python. When you say they're unwilling to accept s390 patches, do you really mean they're unwilling to accept patches for z/OS or UNIX System Services? Because Python has been running on Linux on S/390 and System z for a very long time now. https://mail.python.org/pipermail/python-bugs-list/2007-October/041552.html -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Performanxe Of BPX1GHN (WAS NSLOOKUP MVS vs OMVS)
Some have written and run a program. Runs at IPL and issues a LOAD for various programs, then ends. Actual use never decrements the count to zero, so it is never unloaded. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 2:10 PM, esst...@juno.com esst...@juno.com wrote: I was reading the thread regarding NSLOOKUP (MVS VS OMVS), and it reminded me of an issue I had about a year ago. I was reading a list of Host Names And Used BPX1GHN to get the associated ip-address. I would load BPX1GHN on the first invocation and call BPX1GHN. Subsequent invocations would bypass the LOAD and issue the CALL directly without issuing another LOAD for BPX1GHN (see code sniper below). The issue I experienced, was that every call to BPX1GHN seem to take a long time to perform. We are talking about 30 - 60 seconds per invocation of BPX1GHN. The JOB contained two DD statements //SYSTCPT DD SYSOUT=* //SYSTCPD DD DISP=SHR,DSN=SYS2.TTX.SYSPARM(TP29DATA) Any Advice on how to speed up the execution of BPX1GHN ? ICM R15,BPX1GHN@ Get Address Of Module BNZ BPXREUSE No, Abort ** LOAD EP=BPX1GHNLoad BPX Module STM R15,R1,LOADREGS Save Registers From Load STR0,BPX1GHN@ Save Address Of BPX1GHN * BPXREUSE EQU * L R15,BPX1GHN@ Get Address Of BPX1GHN CALL (15), Get host by name + (HOST_NAME, Input: Name of Host being queried + HOST_NAME#, Input: Length of host name+ HOST_ENT@,Output: 0 or - HOSTENT structure + BPXVAL, Return code + BPXRETCD, Return code + BPXRSNCD),Reason code + LINKINST=BASR, + VL,MF=(E,PLIST) -- BPXPARMS DSECT BPXSAVE DS9DRegister Save Area BPXEYE DSD =EYE CATCHER BPXVAL DSA Return Value BPXRETCD DSA Return Code BPXRSNCD DSA Reason Code HOST_ENT@ DS A Address Of Host Name Structure HOST_NAME# DS A Length Of Host Name HOST_NAME DS CL255 Host Name IP_CHARDS CL30 Returned IP Address In Character Format BPXPARMS# EQU *-BPXPARMS STRUCTURE LENGTH Paul D'Angelo - -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NSA foils much internet encryption
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24429332 NSA using old versions of Firefox to infect PCs in order to identify TOR users. NSA unable to break TOR itself. GO TOR developer U.S. Navy (who needed a secure way to share messages with submarines). On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 8:23 AM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: The WIRED piece Mike Schwab provided a link to recounts things that are commonplaces within the crypto community; but it is a useful brief conspectus for others. Worth remembering is that these situations are always layered. Duiring the Korean War it was usual for the Chinese to plant two or more sets of booby traps in positions they abandoned. The first were easy to find, but not flagrantly so. The second were not. The notion was that finding the first set would make the [chiefly American] UN Forces less careful, more likely to miss the second. Or again, as the late Malcolm Muggeridge once observed, malignly, The Americans' CIA is an amateurish sort of organization, but it will provide excellent cover for a professional one if they ever decide to establish it. John Gilmore, Ashland, MA 01721 - USA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Nobel prize awarded to COMPUTATIONAL Chemistry
http://blogs.scientificamerican.com/the-curious-wavefunction/2013/10/09/computational-chemistry-wins-2013-nobel-prize-in-chemistry/ -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IDCAMS ALTER to delete MANAGEMENTCLASS
How about setting up a MGMTCLAS named like NO, NONE, NOTHING, etc. with no backups, etc, and assigning that value. On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 11:55 AM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov wrote: Thanks, Rob. I've considered this approach as a last resort as it will require multiple DB2 outages. David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of Klan, Rob (RET-DAY) Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 9:43 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: Re: IDCAMS ALTER to delete MANAGEMENTCLASS With ADRDSSU you can state NULL classes for example COPY DATASET(INCLUDE(UKLANRX.REPORT.MEMBERS)) - RENAMEU(SYS5) - STORCLAS(SCSYSDA) NULLMGMTCLAS DELETE ADR101I (R/I)-RI01 (01), TASKID 001 HAS BEEN ASSIGNED TO COMMAND 'COPY ' ADR109I (R/I)-RI01 (01), 2013.282 12:41:06 INITIAL SCAN OF USER CONTROL STATEMENTS COMPLETED ADR016I (001)-PRIME(01), RACF LOGGING OPTION IN EFFECT FOR THIS TASK ADR006I (001)-STEND(01), 2013.282 12:41:06 EXECUTION BEGINS ADR711I (001)-NEWDS(01), DATA SET UKLANRX.REPORT.MEMBERS HAS BEEN ALLOCATED WITH NEWNAME SYS5.REPORT.MEMBERS USING STORCLAS SCSYSDA, NO DATACLAS, AND NO MGMTCLAS -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On Behalf Of David G. Schlecht Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2013 10:51 AM To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU Subject: IDCAMS ALTER to delete MANAGEMENTCLASS I can use IDCAMS ALTER to change a Management Class of a dataset but can’t seem to delete one. I have seen some old documentation where the syntax was: MANAGEMENTCLASS( -NULL- ) But that doesn’t work (no management class with that name) and no other attempt with NULL or blanks works. Current documentation says nothing about removing Management Class from a dataset. How does one do it? David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, dissemination or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How FTP server assigns DCB attributes
6233 is the default for the various device types available when the code was written in the 1960s. 6144 for the linkage editor. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:19 AM, John McKown john.archie.mck...@gmail.com wrote: I am not sure that the following is the reason, but it is likely. When you do a PUT from a z/OS system (client) to another system (z/OS or not), the z/OS client ftp does a SENDSITE command which relays the DCB information of the file being sent to the receiving z/OS system. Other ftp servers tend to flag this and return a command not understood type error. As to why IBM has those as the ftp defaults? I don't have any real notion. My uneducated guess is that since the default transfer method is ASCII (text), and when a file comes from a non-z/OS system, all text records are general variable in length that IBM decided that VB made sense. I have no idea why they thought that 256 was a good number, unless it is because that it the maximum number of bytes which can be copied with a single MVC instruction. 6233 is a real stumper. I would have used 0 so that SDB would find the best fit for the receiving device. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 10:09 AM, Mike Wojtukiewicz mw...@attglobal.netwrote: I've been using MVS FTP for the longest time. I've encountered this problem but it never presented much of a problem until I had a problem with someone. Our company accepts SMF data that's been compressed via TRSMAIN (LRECL=1024,RECFM=FB). I wrote SMS routines such that if a user signs in using a certain RACF userid it gets assigned a DATACLAS such that it assigns the correct DCB. I also have the ftp parm file (/etc/ftp.parm) set up to default to LRECL=80 RECFM=FB BLKSIZE=27920 seeing as how MOST ftps I''ve seen is moving XMIT files between MVS and other platforms. My question is this. Why when I use a DOS Window and client to sign on does it assign the correct DATACLAS but use the default LRECL=80 but when I go from MVS to MVS it works correctly. As an aside..I've NEVER understood why IBM sends LRECL 256 RECFM VB BLKSIZE 6233 as the defaults. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- This is clearly another case of too many mad scientists, and not enough hunchbacks. Maranatha! John McKown -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: How FTP server assigns DCB attributes
Probably. OS/360 sort would not work with anything other that 231X. On Mon, Oct 14, 2013 at 8:17 PM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In CAJTOO5-LBoRDs4a7XG0-SzX0FjFc=npwzajwnkaneqrmhvd...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/14/2013 at 10:34 AM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com said: 6233 is the default for the various device types available when the code was written in the 1960s. 2311? -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: MongoDB
Sounds like a VSAM database. Just a key and data area, meanings are what you assign to them, no database catalog to define the individual fields. On Tue, Oct 15, 2013 at 10:51 PM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com wrote: Since NoSQL seems to be reigning supreme, I decided to study MongoDB which was both recommended by a friend (a PM who is managing an actual project with that stuff) and is the most popular NoSQL engine out there according to http://db-engines.com/en/ranking (they don't count Hadoop since they considered it to be a file system.) As usual, I acquired the book (O'Reilly - mongodb the definitive guide) and began to read... And here is why I post it here, I have the sense of deja vu all over again! Forget about the fancy terminology of storing Documents rather then rows or records. In the end it is the same. They have all the CRUD actions (i.e. Create, Remove, Update and Delete) which are done via some API functions rather then SQL statements. They can index and access stuff fast. They can partition the database over many servers and thus scale out... all is good. But here is the real scoop! No Joins and if you want to store some row... er... document of different structure that relate to the current one, you'd rather store it as a sub document (i.e. a different structure that is part of your current row (i.e. hierarchical) or in a different collection that you should navigate into in the application side. Mmm, have I just used the words navigate, hierarchical, etc. No wonder that all those younger people are so excited about NoSQL, they have never seen it before. But we, veterans of IMS, IDMS, ADABAS and the like, our old skills are new again! Welcome back to the future. BTW, I do not bad mouth the technology, it is very useful (as were IMS and IDMS) and I can see replacing all warehouses and Star Schemas with that stuff, it is more natural, faster and more scalable then the current SQL based warehouse technologies. ZA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS IPL Issue
As long as you accept a complete line at a time, like multiple SDSF operator sessions, it should work, unless two people happen to issue the same command and it causes problems. On Thu, Oct 24, 2013 at 11:28 AM, John McDowell jmcd...@gmail.com wrote: Mark, I understand what you are saying, the unintentional interleaving of multiple user inputs, is something you can accept/overcome. This is one possible resolution of allowing multiple concurrent uses of the Integrated 3270, I personally favor a model of one writer/multiple readers such is often employed in the various screen sharing technologies found in many conferencing solutions. (Note: I'm guessing the specific examples you offer are not for the Integrated 3270 but your essential point remains the same.) The only question in my mind is how sophisticated a mechanism is needed to pass the baton (e.g. become the one writer). My initial thought is to keep it simple, the first session is the writer, all subsequent sessions are readers, the current writer can pass the baton to any reader. If there is no inter-session awareness then the writer can simply lay down the baton (e.g. surrender the write privilege) and any reader can then pick it up. I'm sure there are other models that could be adopted but the key point that I think we all agree on is that lifting the current restriction that prevents multiple concurrent accessors of the Integrated 3270 is very desirable. John McDowell -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Getting the SMF time
On Fri, Oct 25, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Donald Likens dlik...@infosecinc.com wrote: deleted CONVTOD CONVVAL=CVTD,TODVAL=TODCLOCK,DATETYPE=DDD deleted This returns what looks to me to be a good TODCLOCK TODCLOCK +0 CC208E64 F236F8F4 http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa900%2Fiea3a9_Description14.htm Now I do a STCKCONV STCKVAL=TODCLOCK,CONVVAL=TMECVTD,DATETYPE=MMDD, + TIMETYPE=DEC It returns: TMECVTD +0 0867 10182013 The time is not correct (the date is). Any ideas on what I am doing wrong? By my calculations the time should be 14:52:00.16. http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v2r1/topic/com.ibm.zos.v2r1.ieaa900/iea3a9_Description14.htm TIMETYPE=DEC returns x'HHMMSSss' so plus 00.000867 seconds. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Is it possible to write an exit to add DEFER to a VTAPE allocation?
We have some job steps that use ICETOOL to copy 50 DASD or VTAPE datasets to two VTAPE datasets. We have not been able to convince the owner of the job to add DEFER to the allocation. So when a couple of these jobs run at the same time, we run out of our 512 VTAPE drives. Holds up other jobs, or HSM Migrate / Recalls until the step ends and releases the drives. I am hoping we can get these tapes drives down to just those actually being used at one moment (assuming ICETOOL does one file at a time instead of simultaneous coping of multiple files). -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?
On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: deleted Also, isn't gcc available for z/OS? http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net/ -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?
I get those too. Seems like the message is going two different routes (NSA feed?). Might be interesting to compare the list of IP addresses in the original the rejected duplicate. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:30 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: In CAArMM9Qz9D-E=ormh7zbi3g8e+67janyxk+kmx3fd7mwr2l...@mail.gmail.com, on 10/29/2013 at 07:27 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net said: [Listserv decided that my message had already been posted, It had. I replied to the other copy. -- Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz, SysProg and JOAT ISO position; see http://patriot.net/~shmuel/resume/brief.html We don't care. We don't have to care, we're Congress. (S877: The Shut up and Eat Your spam act of 2003) -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Linux on System z (IFL) and Spares
I think IFLs run about 10% of a full speed CP processor. So it doesn't take too much to make them cost effective. On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 10:02 PM, adarsh khanna adarshkha...@yahoo.com wrote: Thanks Timothy.I get it. IFL costing across models is more to do with marketing and product positioning. On Tuesday, 29 October 2013 2:45 PM, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: Bob Shannon writes: Each book has to have at least one configured PU, so the minimum configured PUs for the CEC would be four. Is that true uniquely for the 2827-HA1? It's not true for, say, the 2827-H43 as far as I know. Single engine 2827-H43 machines are reasonably common. Could you be thinking of memory? There is a minimum installed memory required in every processor book. I think it's 16 GB on current models. Agreed, this topic is about 99% academic, though it's sometimes fun to explore the corner solutions. Adarsh Khanna asks: Does the cost of adding an IFL different on different machines e.g. 2817 compared to 2098. If yes why? as it is just characterization of a core. Not exactly. IFLs are no longer available for purchase on machine type 2098. Said another way, the price of IFLs on 2098 machines is infinite. :-) From time to time these sorts of questions come up. I don't know why, because the answer is obvious if you've ever bought anything in your life. The simplest answer is that you should rapidly disabuse yourself of the idea that price must equal either marginal or average cost (plus perhaps some fixed percentage). I don't know why people think mainframes are expected to violate what is so completely common in the world, even (especially?) in the computing world, in terms of pricing. As an example, what's the difference between Microsoft Windows 8 and Microsoft Windows 8 Pro? Answer: A flipped entitlement bit and many dollars in price. As another example, a few hours ago I stepped off an airplane. The price of the airline ticket was about US$1300, which was a high price and which generated a hefty profit for the airline. At the same time, although I don't know what price she paid, the passenger sitting to my right undoubtedly paid a much lower price. (My ticket price would have been the top price on the plane in economy class. It was in fare class Y and booked mere hours before the flight. It had to be done.) Anyway, unless you work for a government agency -- and even then there's an argument! -- you most probably work for a company that seeks to maximize profit. Your company is (usually) constrained in that effort by various forces, including competition. (Yes, there is *vigorous* competition for workloads that could or do run on mainframes.) The airline I flew had the only nonstop flight, had a seat, and US$1300 was the price they set -- and that they ended up receiving. It is true that the price of IFLs (and mainframe computing capacity in general) has been steadily trending downward in both nominal and real terms. When IBM reports mainframe capacity shipments up XX% and mainframe hardware revenues up YY% where XX YY then unit prices are obviously declining -- that's just basic math. And that's good for both IBM and its customers. Timothy Sipples GMU VCT Architect Executive (Based in Singapore) E-Mail: sipp...@sg.ibm.com -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: zIIP simulation
On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 8:02 AM, Shane Ginnane ibm-m...@tpg.com.au wrote: deleted Not denigrating anybodies efforts, merely seeking some clarity in a field left deliberately murky by the major vendor. They will give you the details. After you sign a non-disclosure agreement and write a check. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: IBM 3584 tape library error
http://www.tek-tips.com/viewthread.cfm?qid=1298857 Have you tried a cleaning tape? On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:29 AM, Pommier, Rex rpomm...@sfgmembers.com wrote: Hi, We have an IBM 3584 library. The front panel display is showing error B282. The maintenance manual that we got with the machine doesn't have this error listed and I can't find a description from the web. Anybody got an idea what this error means? Thanks, Rex The information contained in this message is confidential, protected from disclosure and may be legally privileged. If the reader of this message is not the intended recipient or an employee or agent responsible for delivering this message to the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, distribution, copying, or any action taken or action omitted in reliance on it, is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this communication in error, please notify us immediately by replying to this message and destroy the material in its entirety, whether in electronic or hard copy format. Thank you. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: HSM and changed or archive bit
1. ADRDSSU used to turn off the changed bit after a volume backup by default. It has been changed to not be the default but can be selected by a used. 2. Management class field Backup Required value no allows a dataset to migrate before being backed up. On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 1:51 PM, David G. Schlecht dschle...@admin.nv.gov wrote: HSM is intermittently failing to backup new datasets. I suspect that someone/something is resetting the changed or archive bit on the dataset before HSM gets to it. Can anyone tell me how I can view the state of the changed bit on a dataset? Furthermore, I’m only guessing but I would hope that the bit is set to changed when the dataset is first created. David G. Schlecht | Information Technology Professional State of Nevada | Department of Administration | Enterprise IT Services T:(775)684-4328 | F: (775) 684‐4324 | E:dschle...@admin.nv.gov This communication, including any attachments, may contain confidential information and is intended only for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. Any review, dissemination or copying of this communication by anyone other than the intended recipient is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail and delete all copies of the original message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Space allocation using OGET
http://pic.dhe.ibm.com/infocenter/zos/v1r13/index.jsp?topic=%2Fcom.ibm.zos.r13.idak100%2Fsmsr13.htm 2. Allowing larger data set sizes: In z/OS V1R13, SMS expands the size limit for data sets it supports. The new size limit is X'7FFF' megabytes or higher, which is greater than 2500 million cylinders. The SMS changes are essentially transparent to end user. Message IGD17351I is issued when the converted space in MBs exceeds the limit imposed by other components. For DD or dynamic defined VSAM data sets, SMS issues IGD17351I when the converted space in megabytes exceeds X'FF'. Use extended format dataset, allow extents onto additional volumes. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Richard Pinion rpin...@netscape.com wrote: z/OS 1.13, I am getting the following error when I issue an OGET with the output data set being new. OGET '/work/shopzseries' 'LDARP1.SHOPZ.ZOS' IKJ56893I DATA SET LDARP1.SHOPZ.ZOS NOT ALLOCATED+ IGD17351I SPACE REQUESTED IS TOO LARGE. ALLOCATION FAILED FOR DATA SET LDARP1.SHOPZ.ZOS IGD17409I FAILURE OCCURRED IN DATA SET PROPERTIES MERGE WHILE ATTEMPTING TO DEFINE DATA SET LDARP1.SHOPZ.ZOS _ Netscape. Just the Net You Need. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Is there currently a way to access MongoDB from z/OS LE languages?
As long as the program accepts the data as valid and doesn't check it for valid ASCII characters, it should work for any character set. Let the operating system determine if it is a valid data set name, path, etc. On Fri, Nov 1, 2013 at 10:51 AM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: On 1 November 2013 02:47, Timothy Sipples sipp...@sg.ibm.com wrote: Tony Harminc opines: [with respect to the need to use EBCDIC] Sure, if all your application does is crunch numbers or manipulate bytes. But if it has any interaction with the operating system such as calling its services... Which (other) services? ENQ/DEQ. WTO/WTOR/QEDIT and friends. OPEN/CLOSE. TPUT/TGET. Many of the UNIX callable services. There are many more. Some of the services merely use EBCDIC constants or values in their invocations; others actually deal with EBCDIC data. There is no requirement on z/OS to support dataset names unless operating on datasets (VSAM files, PDSes, PDSEs, etc.) Which I've already covered in my statement. dealing with operator services, etc. etc. etc., you will find it There is no requirement on z/OS for open source ported applications to deal with operator services. For example, there is no requirement on z/OS that applications produce SMF records. So my statement you quoted above pretty much covers it. If you are happy for your app to run isolated, you are fine. If you want to talk to the outside world, you need to support EBCDIC to at least some degree. If what you have is a callable subroutine that manipulates data and returns a result, yes of course the caller can do the necessary translations on input and output. *Requirement*. Everything you're describing may be desirable, even highly desirable, but not REQUIRED. Oh come on. A program is not REQUIRED to do anything beyond its specifications, and those can be as minimal as you like. I will stipulate that IEFBR14 will run fine in ASCII, EBCDIC, or even UTF-8. What do you accomplish by making this point? Now, I stipulate that there are many desirable capabilities. Operating on/with EBCDIC data is often useful. There are two ways to try to accomplish that goal: 1. Complain to and criticize each and every individual open source community for every open source product, that they must accept adding a laundry list of features to their mainline source code in order to exploit z/OS-unique and z/OS-desirable features. That approach doesn't seem to be working, does it? A strange straw man to set up. I'm not aware of this complaining and criticizing you speak of. Can you give an example of such a laundry list? What I hear, and have contributed to, is the notion that people should design and write code in a portable manner. This was once considered evident goodness among almost all programmers, but the notion has faded with respect to non-ASCII characters sets, whereas e.g. portability wrt endianness hasn't. If you write non portable stuff like If A = char = Z then char_is_uc_alpha = TRUE then you will have trouble running on any non-ASCII system. But this, and worse, continues to this day. Quite evidently this has happened because while there are many prominent platforms of both big and little endian pursuasion, there are approximately five current EBCDIC OSs in existence running on two hardware platforms, and most people know nothing about any of them. 2. As the Java community has, and IBM has (and continues to do), bolster the generalized runtime environments on z/OS so that more open source products can come to z/OS more easily and (optionally!) exploit z/OS without changes to the mainline source code (or with at least fewer changes). There's nothing wrong with this, certainly. But I see little to no connection with your earlier point. For example, if you want open source applications to be able to operate on/with EBCDIC data, how about a generic approach that works for all (or at least most) open source products? My /ebcdic path idea isn't necessarily best or even viable, but at least I'm trying. This addresses an already-addressed problem, arguably in a worse way, and it's the narrow problem of UNIXy file I/O. For example, one radical (but probably viable) idea would be a userland GNU/Linux atop z/OS. Anybody interested in doing that? Perhaps, but it's hard to see the business case when zLinux and z/OS UNIX already exist. And it certainly won't be IBM distributing it if it's GPL licensed, which any GNU/Linux-based product would be. Tony H. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to
Re: Interested in up to date open source software or low cost utilities?
I know a couple of load modules were compiled and tested on z/OS then the binary downloaded and run on MVS 3.8 too. On Sun, Nov 3, 2013 at 10:53 AM, Rob Schramm rob.schr...@gmail.com wrote: Anyone used it on z/OS? On Oct 30, 2013 5:38 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Oct 30, 2013 at 8:38 AM, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net wrote: deleted Also, isn't gcc available for z/OS? http://gccmvs.sourceforge.net/ -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: aggressive drivers was: Interesting? How _compilers_ are compromising application security
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nRnlRurTwFg UK Speed camera vandalism. On Tue, Nov 5, 2013 at 7:40 AM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: Elardus, They had cameras on the Autoroute when I lived in Switzerland ...nobody stole things, too many police cars Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' On Nov 4, 2013, at 2:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Jon Perryman wrote: Germany has solved this by sending you a photo with you in the driver seat and shows the license plate / time date / your speed. The photo was really good night time photo for the distance. Officer's just set the radar gun at the side of the autobahn and just leave. Here, someone would probably steal it. If my sources are correct, Germany is using a South African innovation http://www.truvelo.co.za/traffic/index.html Here in Sunny South Africa those fixed cameras are mounted high, very high, skyhigh on poles, otherwise they will be stolen/vandalized. ;-D And if the cops lose those laser or radar guns, they're in trouble of course. Not my problem. ;-) Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
On Thu, Nov 7, 2013 at 12:15 PM, John Gilmore jwgli...@gmail.com wrote: deleted DASD deleted Diploma in the Art of Spiritual Direction deleted Doctor in the Art of Spirit Detention? Who you gonna call? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: JCL
On Sat, Nov 9, 2013 at 12:28 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: deleted o Simplify the SPACE parameter. The programmer shouldn't need to specify anything but (maximum) BLKSIZE (to be used in DCB merge for allocating buffers), average block size (to be used by allocation for calculating gap overhead), primary allocation size (bytes), and secondary extent size (bytes). AVGREC is bizarre: I studied it and experimented. I understood it for about an hour thereafter. Eliminate any need for AVGREC. Imagine: SPACE=(AVG=bytes,PRI=bytes,SEC=bytes), for any size data set up to the largest supported by hardware. deleted //ddname DD DSN=DATA.SET.NAME,DISP=(NEW,CATLG), // DSORG=PO,RECFM=FB,LRECL=NNN,BLKSIZE=0, // SPACE=(BYTES,(24M,2M,56K),RLSE) should use the System Determined Blocksize for calculating the number of cylinders and rounding up, and 1 track for the directory. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Serialization without Enque
http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20130723/09543223903/joel-spolsky-stackexchange-thwarts-broad-microsoft-patent-app-using-microsofts-own-prior-art.shtml Submit Prior Art to U.S. Patent office Appilications http://patents.stackexchange.com/ On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 7:19 AM, Kenneth Wilkerson redb...@austin.rr.com wrote: I'm with you on patents. I came across an IBM patent yesterday that was dated 2009 describing a lock-free storage manager using cell pools to manage variable length storage. I invented my first one 30 years ago using CAS. It was writing a more sophisticated version 10 years ago that led to my research on PLO. I'm now on my fourth version of this storage manager, this one I wrote for me, and it's much more sophisticated than the patented algorithm with numerous more capabilities. Like music, every piece of software is based on what we've seen before. So my real question with software patents is how do you prove it's original? It's the chicken and the egg. Which came first? Kenneth -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SET IBM-Main NOMAIL
Last I heard that was the email address was there but no INFO document to return. On Thu, Nov 14, 2013 at 12:14 PM, efinnell15 efinnel...@aol.com wrote: send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN ^ In a message dated 11/14/13 12:00:48 Central Standard Time, trs...@att.net writes: SET IBM-Main NOMAIL -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: SNMP V3 Replacement?
http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/windowsserver/en-US/9ef8d131-3b39-43d1-9a51-f17973c5d5d1/snmp-in-windows-server-8?forum=winserver8gen On Fri, Nov 15, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Hansen, Dave L - Eagan, MN dave.l.han...@usps.gov wrote: Dear Group, I keep hearing SNMP is being replaced. I still see SNMP in the IBM books. However: According to the following Microsoft KB article, SNMP has been deprecated in Windows Server 8: http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/hh831568.aspx Any ideas as to what the future of Simple Network Management might include? Or is it just the Windows group that's ditching SNMP? Happy Friday, Dave -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ASSIST Assembler
Assist features are included in http://www/z390.org/ . On Sun, Nov 17, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Cameron Seay cws...@gmail.com wrote: Anybody know where I can get a copy of the ASSIST assembler for academic only purposes. The Northern Illinois site is no longer active. Thanks. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: ASSIST Assembler
Open http://www.z390.org/z390_User_Guide.pdf and search for assist. On Mon, Nov 18, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Sun, 17 Nov 2013 23:09:03 -0500, John P. Baker jba...@ngssallc.com wrote: It is available at http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/download/zips/assist.tgz. Just curious: how does Hercules/ASSIST: http://www.jaymoseley.com/hercules/compilers/contents.htm compare to z390: http://www.z390.org/ ...? -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
VVDS delete
I was cleaning up VVDSs from empty volumes. I did one volume too many. The VSAM datasets are still on the volume (MOBIOUS Linear VSAM). Do I DEFINE RECATALOG the VVDS? Do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG to all the various catalogs? After getting the VVDS reset, do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG the individual datasets? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: VVDS delete
The DEFINE RECATALOG on the VVDS worked. No catalogs specified. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com wrote: I was cleaning up VVDSs from empty volumes. I did one volume too many. The VSAM datasets are still on the volume (MOBIOUS Linear VSAM). Do I DEFINE RECATALOG the VVDS? Do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG to all the various catalogs? After getting the VVDS reset, do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG the individual datasets? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: VVDS delete
Diagnose and examine are run regularly. The VVDS was still on the volume. Migrating the datasets on the volume worked after the DEFINE RECATALOG. On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 7:29 PM, retired mainframer retired-mainfra...@q.com wrote: Did you originally delete the VVDS or just uncatalog it (delete noscratch)? If you did not specify a catalog, the VVDS was probably recatalogued in the master catalog. Do you know for a fact that this is the same place it was catalogued before the mistake? (It may matter because VVDSs and catalogs point back and forth to each other.) Do you periodically run Access Methods Services DIAGNOSE commands against your catalogs and VVDSs? If not, it might pay to do both for this VVDS/catalog just to insure everything is still consistent. (Running the EXAMINE command against the catalog might also be reassuring.) :: -Original Message- :: From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU] On :: Behalf Of Mike Schwab :: Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2013 4:18 PM :: To: IBM-MAIN@LISTSERV.UA.EDU :: Subject: Re: VVDS delete :: :: The DEFINE RECATALOG on the VVDS worked. No catalogs specified. :: :: On Thu, Nov 21, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Mike Schwab mike.a.sch...@gmail.com :: wrote: :: I was cleaning up VVDSs from empty volumes. I did one volume too :: many. The VSAM datasets are still on the volume (MOBIOUS Linear :: VSAM). :: :: Do I DEFINE RECATALOG the VVDS? :: Do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG to all the various catalogs? :: After getting the VVDS reset, do I need to DEFINE RECATALOG the :: individual datasets? :: :: :: -- :: Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA :: Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? :: :: :: :: -- :: Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA :: Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? :: :: -- :: For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, :: send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: When should we ACCEPT DB2 PTFs?
How about not until IBM tells you to? As in you must accept before apply this PTF? On Fri, Nov 22, 2013 at 8:40 AM, Staller, Allan allan.stal...@kbmg.com wrote: IMO, the short answer is just before the next APPLY. HTH, -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
We'll, the JES2 has a address field consisting of 60 characters. // DSNAME=data.set.name, 80-10-10=60, VTOC use a new DSCB value, like F7-9 for the Extended non-VSAM. Catalogs require new key size so only new catalogs with the longer key size. Control blocks: additional field with remainder of Dataset name? Since IBM has SDSP for small migrated datasets, why not do something similar for Live datasets? If you close a newly created dataset, and it is 1 (maybe 2) tracks of actual usage, how about saving it in a dataset. VSAM ESDS, Key=data.set.name+block number, contents compressed block up to 32KB. Opening would read entire uncompressed contents into memory, update rewrites blocks, etc. Conversion to normal DSN if the entire file can't be held in memory or reaches a set size. On Tue, Nov 26, 2013 at 6:56 AM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 11/25/2013 8:36 PM, Ze'ev Atlas wrote: From the little user point of view, he/she knows the name of the file. As a matter of policy in most facilities (probably all), all files that the little user do and/or care for are cataloged and are somewhere in the DFSMS managed storage. Thus, if he/she needs the file, all need to be done is mentioning the name. The 44 character name is indeed a stupid limitation that need to go away. The same thing about stupid limitation is the lack of standard catalog in Unix. That limitation needs to go away. 1) little user sounds pejorative - was that your intent? 2) the 44 character limitation for the data set name is a justifiable limitation based on the original S/360 hardware and software limitations. I would hardly call it stupid. However, I would welcome your detailed strategy for eliminating it, and what limit, if any, would you compromise on? How would you redesign the catalog, VTOC, JCL, etc. and justify the cost of the near rewrite of the OS and many user programs that use the JFCB? Complaining is easy, but developing a viable solution isn't. By comparison, a *nix catalog facility would be child's play. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: OT? Opinion article on software design being deliberately unfriendly
http://www.rexxinfo.org/ http://www.rexxla.org/links/ On Thu, Nov 28, 2013 at 3:29 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: deleted I miss Rexx in command line for OS/2. I believe there are Rexx for windoze, but I haven't looked at it. deleted -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
A-Z@#$: 29 characters for the first character, plus 0-9 for up to 7 additional characters. 29 One character. 1,131 Two character. 44,109 Three character. 1,720,251 Four character. 67,089,789 Five character. 2,616,501,771 Six character. 102,043,569,069 Seven character. 3,979,699,193,691 Eight character. 4,084,428,119,840 1-8 character level. On Fri, Nov 29, 2013 at 12:49 PM, Gerhard Postpischil gerh...@valley.net wrote: On 11/29/2013 12:36 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote: There is no limitation ... of ... 5 levels Hasn't been for a long time; perhaps never was. While I don't remember a 5-level limit, there always was (and will be?) a practical limit. Using every possible legal name, even at a single level, exhausts space available on any early DASD. Gerhard Postpischil Bradford, Vermont -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
TSO appends a prefix of your userid to your data set name unless you specify quotes. Other operating systems assume the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_directory , Working in a shell or script, you can the current directory then you work within that directory. Windows shortcuts can specify which directory is the default directory when you run that program. Pick an appropriate method and live with it, or specify the full directory path. On Sun, Dec 1, 2013 at 12:20 AM, Ze'ev Atlas zatl...@yahoo.com wrote: That's correct and that's where I took the idea from. That concept needs improvements No doubt, but so far you haven't identified any defect that a new type of catalog would resolve. I have identified the defect pretty well, except that you refuse to see that definition and go to circular arguments about semantics! I will explain rather than define: In z/OS you are confined to 44 characters and limited to however many levels could be expressed within that limit, but you do not need to tell the system where the file resides because that information is stored in the catalog. In Unix, you do not have those length and level limitations, but you need to be explicit in describing where the file is or go through the trouble of creating symbolic links. Both sides are awkward, require too much memorization and each one has a glaring defect as identified above. With the envisioned catalog, file names are not limited in length or form, yet the system would know where do they reside. In case of two (or more) files that share the same name, a sophisticated implementation may either decide by context (e.g. a file that is owned by the requester would be preferred to file owned by somebody else - THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE DO NOT GET INTO SEMANTICS), or ask to disambiguate (e.g. supply only one level that is different between the files - AGAIN, THIS IS ONLY AN EXAMPLE, PLEASE DO NOT GET INTO SEMANTICS) ZA -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
My thought. While you are typing a command with a partial Unix file name, leave the cursor at the end of the file name and press a PF key. The routine would open a popup window with a list of possible matches. You could select a option by tabbing to the line with the desired match and pressing enter, or alter the search argument and pressing enter to search again. Would work very much like ISPF 3.4 or the mentioned directory listing. On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Phil Smith p...@voltage.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 3, 2013 at 7:00 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.netmailto:t...@harminc.net wrote: I don't know about OS X, but recent version of Windows have seriousl dumbed down the search interface to the point that it's almost impossible to distinguish between file names and approximate strings inside the files. But for that matter, even Google insists on searching for things vaguely close to what I asked for, rather then the actual thing. Thank you, Tony: I thought it was just me! Drives me nuts. I wind up opening a command prompt and using DIR (or grep, depending). Re Google: use verbatim search. Look under Search tools, then All results to find that. I discovered this when I was trying to factcheck a story about an elderly man who got a sensitive part of his anatomy stuck in a chair (I forget why this was interesting at the time, honest!). The word I was searching for has three syllables and begins with t, but Google kept presenting results that had the word balls in them. Smart is good - when I search for 5 cups and it offers five cups, that's a GOOD thing. But it does go too far sometimes. (Also try searching for a restaurant whose name is Italian in Virginia [VA] - va is a common Italian word, so you get tons of hits *from Italy, in Italian*. Adding language:english to the search helps there). ...phsiii -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Catalog system for Unix Was: Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
On Wed, Dec 4, 2013 at 9:16 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: deleted My pet peeve is - when I search a word in a language, not English, then Google is useless. deleted Try using http://www.google.fr for french words? (use a country suffix where that lanquage is used). -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NSA foils much internet encryption
Why did the NSA even bother to get a internet tap, when they could have just re-routed packets through their servers? (Maybe the extra delay is causing our messages to be re-sent creating duplicate messages?) http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2013/12/bgp-hijacking-belarus-iceland/ Earlier this year, researchers say, someone mysteriously hijacked internet traffic headed to government agencies, corporate offices and other recipients in the U.S. and elsewhere and redirected it to Belarus and Iceland, before sending it on its way to its legitimate destinations. They did so repeatedly over several months. But luckily someone did notice. And this may not be the first time it has occurred — just the first time anyone has noticed. On Mon, Oct 7, 2013 at 5:16 PM, Paul Gilmartin paulgboul...@aim.com wrote: On Mon, 7 Oct 2013 16:53:28 -0500, Mike Schwab wrote: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-24429332 NSA using old versions of Firefox to infect PCs in order to identify TOR users. Will virus scanners detect such infections, or has NSA arranged that the scanners themselves have an Acquired Immune Deficiency? NSA unable to break TOR itself. GO TOR developer U.S. Navy (who needed a secure way to share messages with submarines). -- gil -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: NSA foils much internet encryption
Microsoft finally woke up. http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-switch/wp/2013/12/05/microsoft-u-s-government-is-a-potential-security-threat/ Microsoft is trying to change the terms of the NSA debate — literally. The company is labeling any government effort to spy on its online communications as evidence of an advanced persistent threat, a term that's so far been reserved to describe foreign espionage units such as the one allegedly operated by the Chinese military. more at the link -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: z/OS is antique WAS: Aging Sysprogs = Aging Farmers
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenVMS http://www.computerworld.com/s/article/9239984/OpenVMS_R.I.P._1977_2020_ On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 12:38 PM, Scott Ford scott_j_f...@yahoo.com wrote: I always thought VMS was *nix like??? If not what opsys is it similar too or is it's own thang Scott ford www.identityforge.com from my IPAD 'Infinite wisdom through infinite means' -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Restore Multi-Volume GDG from Virtual Tape?
If these are logical backups, the first volume should contain the entire backup. If these are physical backups, I would restore / rename each volume's dataset as an independent dataset (data.set.name.g1234v00.vol001), then copy all the datasets (concatenated input) to a VTAPE dataset then delete the parts and copy the vtape back to disk. On Fri, Dec 6, 2013 at 8:18 AM, Nathan J Pfister npfis...@aessuccess.org wrote: List; Is it possible to restore a multi-voulme GDG from Virtual Tape. It was a 47-volume (Mod-9) dataset, an SMF Dump, and we are trying to restore it. We've tried quite a bit of different ADRDSSU code with no luck. //REST01 EXEC PGM=ADRDSSU, // PARM='UTILMSG=YES', // REGION=6M, // TIME=1400 //SYSPRINT DD SYSOUT=* //TAPE01 DD DSN=BACKUP.AKM93B1F, // DISP=(OLD,KEEP),UNIT=VTL, // LABEL=(12,SL), // VOL=SER=439394 //TAPE02 DD DSN=BACKUP.AKM9A61D, // DISP=(OLD,KEEP),UNIT=VTL, // LABEL=(6,SL), // VOL=SER=387231 . //TAPE47 DD DSN=BACKUP.AKM933AF, // DISP=(OLD,KEEP),UNIT=VTL, // LABEL=(7,SL), // VOL=SER=395208 //SYSIN DD * RESTORE DS(INCLUDE(TAPE.SMF.DUMP.NX.G5203V00)) - INDD(TAPE01) OUTDY(NEFA10) BYPASSACS(**) NULLSTORCLAS ADMIN - FORCE RESTORE DS(INCLUDE(TAPE.SMF.DUMP.NX.G5203V00)) - INDD(TAPE02) OUTDY(NEFA11) BYPASSACS(**) NULLSTORCLAS ADMIN - FORCE RESTORE DS(INCLUDE(TAPE.SMF.DUMP.NX.G5203V00)) - INDD(TAPE47) OUTDY(NEFA3E) BYPASSACS(**) NULLSTORCLAS ADMIN - FORCE Above is our latest attempt. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks! Thanks; Nathan Pfister zOS Systems Programmer This message contains privileged and confidential information intended for the above addressees only. If you receive this message in error please delete or destroy this message and/or attachments. The sender of this message will fully cooperate in the civil and criminal prosecution of any individual engaging in the unauthorized use of this message. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Curiosity: TCB mapping macro name - why IKJTCB?
http://www.cbttape.org/os360.htm Order the CD-ROM here. But I think it is the last version of OS/360. On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 7:50 PM, Tony Harminc t...@harminc.net wrote: deleted What we need is some source code from an OS/360 version before 20.x, which is when TSO became available. But of course some core of TSO may well have been in even earlier OS versions; it seems most unlikely that TSO sprang fully formed and ready to ship (FSVO ready) from SDD in 1971 or so. Someone must have that old round tape in the attic somewhere. I know I did... Tony H. -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Lookat
Maybe a copy on an external disk drive? On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 8:46 AM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Hunkeler, Peter wrote: There is the strong yet wrong believe the internet has become so fast that instead of returning the tiny bit I'm looking for, it's an added value to throw everything at me. Shudder! With the old BookMaster interface, it took me a few clicks returning few information each to go to the place I was looking for. I sadly recognize these comfortable times are gone. I cannot shut up anymore! What about DRP situation? Are there any guarantee the books (and internet) are available during DRP tests / realistic? We have for example two or more sets of Bookmanager in CD / DVD format. The contents were installed on various network servers, laptop / PCs, z/OS on various sites including DRP sites. Just tell me how to access that library server during a DRP situation (real or test) and then I will sleep peacefully. Of course, it is a PITA trying to download [1] all those books, shelves and indexes. I'm not really up to the challenge that I missed a prized book during a DRP! Ok, enough ranting! :-/ Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht [1] - Internet is not really that fast enough here in South Africa. But it is improving with all those new sea cables and new sattelites as well as new backbones and ISPs. We can perhaps watch YouTube/CNN/Space.Com/etc videos, but most of the time we pause the vid in the first few seconds and then wait for the download bar to fill up so about 3/4 of the length, then we can play it without any stutterings. That is if there are NO timeouts. I'm talking about videos not in HD format, but lower resolution. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
Re: Lookat
We do a flash drive, but probably not enough capacity for all the manuals you want. On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 11:30 PM, Elardus Engelbrecht elardus.engelbre...@sita.co.za wrote: Mike Schwab wrote: Maybe a copy on an external disk drive? Good idea, now I have pondering on it, I'll have a nice discussion with my DRP team so we can replace DVDs with external hard drives. Just with the envelopes containing details of the special ids, I could arrange that instead of CD / DVD with bookmanager, we can use external hard drive (Verbatim USB Store and Go 500 GB for example). Then we can also store IPL procedures and other similar documentations on that drives too. Thanks Mike for your good idea! Groete / Greetings Elardus Engelbrecht -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN -- Mike A Schwab, Springfield IL USA Where do Forest Rangers go to get away from it all? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@listserv.ua.edu with the message: INFO IBM-MAIN
